WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:02.680 There's a certain enormous level of ego you have to 2 00:00:02.720 --> 00:00:05.080 have to be a talk radio host to think that 3 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:08.560 literally an entire city should just listen to what you 4 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:11.279 have to say for a full hour, and on top 5 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:17.120 of that, also having a large ego to try to 6 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:21.760 write for opinion journals, to think that the whole audience 7 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:24.559 of that journal or the whole country maybe should listen 8 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:28.199 to what you have to say. And perhaps the epitome 9 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:33.960 of ego is to talk about something you wrote on 10 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.799 your own radio show, And that is precisely what I'm 11 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:39.359 going to do. I had a piece published in National 12 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:46.079 Review today about Pope Leo the fourteenth and the topic 13 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:54.679 of AI, and I want to dig into this. So 14 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:03.079 there's all kinds of news stories out there about Poplar 15 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:04.959 on the fourteenth, everyone's trying to get to know him. 16 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:07.599 But one of the few things that he's sort of 17 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:11.079 directly confirmed is the fact that over the course of 18 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.079 him being pope, he directly wants to touch on the 19 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:17.920 subject of AI. He wants to teach about talk about 20 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:23.359 the subject of AI and talk about its implications for 21 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:29.680 society and apply Christian teaching to it. So he himself 22 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:31.760 confirmed this in an address he gave to the College 23 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:35.840 of Cardinals, and then one of the other cardinals, one 24 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:40.079 of the cardinals who elected him from Chile. He confirmed 25 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:42.239 in an interview. Yeah, Leo's like really interested in this, 26 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:44.159 He really wants to work on it and talk about it. 27 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:46.560 He thinks it's a really significant thing. And it even 28 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:50.079 is reflected in his name. So Leo, this is Leo 29 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:52.400 the fourteenth who just got elected last week. Leo the 30 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:56.319 thirteenth was pope around the turn of the nineteenth into 31 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:59.560 the twentieth century, and Leo the thirteenth kicked off sort 32 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:05.799 of the mod An era of Catholic social teaching with 33 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:10.280 this piece that he wrote, this long sort of treatment 34 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:15.120 he wrote about societal issues called reeroom novarrum. When a 35 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:19.599 pope writes something, basically what he does is he writes 36 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:21.560 a document and like the first two or three words 37 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:24.400 of the document, that's the title of the document. So 38 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:27.240 the first two words were reyroom novarrum, which means about 39 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:32.560 new matters, concerning new matters. And this was Leo the 40 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:35.400 thirteenth writing in eighteen ninety one. 41 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:37.680 He writes reyroom navarrum. And what is he writing it about? 42 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:41.879 Well, he's writing it about the industrial revolution, the industrial revolution, 43 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:46.319 the rise of capitalism, the rise of socialism, and how 44 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:49.080 does the Catholic Church think about these things, interact with 45 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:51.400 these things, what are some of the principles of justice? 46 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:52.800 Really? 47 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:56.240 A lot of what Leo was doing was talking about 48 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:59.400 what is the nature of human beings and how do 49 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:04.719 they fit in with these kinds of societies, how do 50 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:10.879 we respect human nature in all these different contexts. Okay, 51 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:14.639 so that's what Leo the thirteenth was doing, and it 52 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:20.599 was this seismic intervention, this huge intervention in the political 53 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:24.439 controversies that were rocking Europe and the whole world at 54 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:34.080 the time. Now, Leo the fourteenth seemed to have picked 55 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:37.000 his name deliberately as an homage to Leo the thirteenth 56 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:41.759 and Leo the thirteenth intervention in these grand political controversies. 57 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:47.520 Leo the fourteenth has basically said he wants to talk 58 00:03:47.599 --> 00:03:53.159 about AI and the way in which it is interact. 59 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:57.879 It's going to have an impact on labor, on society. 60 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:00.280 So I wrote a little. 61 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.960 Piece and National Review is very gracious to publish it 62 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:05.840 about this, about why I think it's important. So why 63 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:09.479 is it important? Well, for one thing, I think it's 64 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:13.960 important because it's kind of allowing the Catholic Church to 65 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:18.240 face a little bit more outward, in a bit more 66 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:24.839 coherent of a fashion, and that hasn't really been the 67 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.519 case for a lot of the Francis Pontificate. A lot 68 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:32.519 of the Francis Pontificate was dealing with internal fights. Now, 69 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:36.959 Francis wrote some good stuff about evangelizing the world, but 70 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:40.600 a lot of the external facing stuff that the Francis 71 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:42.639 Pontificate was sort of known for, frankly. 72 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:44.439 Was I don't know there was. 73 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:50.360 Stuff in things that Pope Francis wrote about immigration. He 74 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:53.759 would have different kinds of little interventions on immigration, including 75 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:59.279 a letter to the United States regarding immigration stuff that 76 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:02.920 was released shortly after JD. Vance did his whole interview 77 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:07.279 talking about the Order of Loves, the Ordo Amorris as 78 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:10.000 he referred to it, that basically the United States has 79 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:12.240 more obligations to its own citizenry than it has to 80 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:17.439 other citizens of other countries, which is obviously true, but 81 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:21.000 this letter from Poet Francis came to try to correct that. 82 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:21.519 I guess. 83 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:25.439 I don't think the core of what JD Vance said 84 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:27.920 was wrong. Obviously countries have more of an obligation to 85 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:31.759 their own citizens than to other citizens. The problem is, 86 00:05:31.800 --> 00:05:33.959 I think that the argument everyone's sort of talking past 87 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:37.439 each other. Yes, countries have more of an obligation to 88 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:39.920 their own citizens than to non citizens. But the question 89 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:43.439 that's actually being debated right now is, well, what obligation 90 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.519 does the United States have to these people, these people 91 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.040 who are coming to the United States making asylum claims 92 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:52.120 or you know, name your group of immigrants. That's the 93 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:55.120 other problem is that I don't think every group of 94 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:59.680 immigrants trying to get into the United States through legal 95 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:03.920 means or otherwise, I don't think we need to treat them, 96 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.319 or can treat them, or should treat them all the same. 97 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:12.680 So the obligations we owe, the order of our love, 98 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:15.879 the order of care that we have to lavish on 99 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:26.319 people is different for different people. Now, a lot of 100 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:34.160 Francis's outward facing teaching was he had one thing that 101 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:39.199 was sort of an environmental thing. But again it yes 102 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:41.920 it was outward facing, Yes it was engaging with the world. 103 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:45.000 I don't know how much of an impact it really 104 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.600 had because it's sort of echoing what the dominant culture. 105 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:50.959 A lot of dominant cultural forces were sort of saying already. 106 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:55.720 Although Francis did incorporate into it a greater a better anthropology, 107 00:06:56.519 --> 00:06:59.600 a better sense of respect for human life as being 108 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:08.120 valuable parts of society, I don't know how well any 109 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:12.959 of his specific messages on the environment were being heated 110 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:16.199 or there was anything too much of a breakthrough, because 111 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.160 at the end of the day, there's only so much. 112 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:30.319 A lot of environmental activism is fact contingent as opposed 113 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:34.959 to ethics contingent. If human beings are genuinely destroying the 114 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:36.680 environment in this way, this way, this way, then the 115 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:39.079 policy solutions need to be this way, this way, this way. 116 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:41.879 And it's a lot of scientific judgments where the Pope 117 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:50.920 isn't necessarily a world expert. If so, now, if, on 118 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:56.000 the other hand, we're talking about ethics as a principal question, 119 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.720 if we're talking about ethics and justice and law as 120 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:01.120 a principal question, that might be something much more in 121 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:08.199 the wheelhouse of the pope. And that's why I'm excited 122 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:10.560 about the idea of the Pope tackling AI, because I 123 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:14.839 feel like he's got more of a ground And I'm 124 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:18.399 not saying everything Francis did on talking about the environment 125 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:21.399 was bad I think if you actually read it more granularly, 126 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:24.279 it's not as bad as sort of the media reporting 127 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:31.879 on it was made to be. But I think Pope 128 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.200 Leo will be in a better posture to teach about AI. 129 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:38.799 So let's talk about some of the big issues of 130 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:41.279 justice that have to be dealt with with AI. Right, 131 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:47.840 the World Bank estimates that there are about three point 132 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:51.960 six nine billion workers on planet Earth, three point sixty 133 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:57.360 nine billion people working. Goldman Sachs in twenty twenty three 134 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:03.960 estimated that AI would replace three hundred million jobs. So 135 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:07.879 that's over eight percent of all jobs in the world. 136 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:14.799 That's a lot, Okay, So how do you handle it? 137 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:19.639 How do you handle a new technology? 138 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:20.159 Which is great? 139 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:24.360 We love new technology. We love you know, making difficult 140 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:33.679 work easier. That's great, that's wonderful. But eliminating eight percent 141 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:38.279 of all jobs on planet Earth, that's a bad idea 142 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:42.600 Like that that's going to be bad. So how do 143 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:49.320 we deal with that? I think obviously there needs to 144 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:52.720 be some sort of just sort of introduction of AI 145 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:57.399 systems and a just way to help people transition to 146 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:01.559 other kinds of productive work. And and that's this seems 147 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.039 to be precisely where the Catholic Church could come in 148 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:07.320 with some wise teaching. This is not the first time 149 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:09.559 in the history of a two thousand year old institution 150 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:12.120 that a new technology has come along that made people 151 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:17.519 lose their jobs. So I think that's one of the 152 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:27.559 disruptive areas where an ethical guidance is really really necessary. 153 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:29.360 Another area. 154 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:35.159 We've seen with the proliferation of AI, with the proliferation 155 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:40.240 of all these other kinds of technologies, we've seen how 156 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:46.679 human relationships, human interactions have gotten worse, they've gotten more impersonal. 157 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:50.399 There was this story that came out about a week 158 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:53.000 or so ago that Mark Zuckerberg was talking about how, 159 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:56.720 you know, most human beings have about three friends, but 160 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:59.759 human beings have a capacity for wanting to have a 161 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:05.080 fifteen good friends, and his proposal to combat There're more 162 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:09.559 and more statistics about human loneliness, and in fact, in 163 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:12.960 the United States, there's a lot of statistics about the 164 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:23.440 sharp increase in diagnoses of teenagers experiencing depression, anxiety, suicide, 165 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:30.399 suicidal ideation. This enormous jump that started in twenty twelve. 166 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:32.960 Twenty twelve, which was pretty much the time, you know, 167 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:35.279 the iPhone had been released, just a few years earlier. 168 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:40.120 Twenty twelve was the point at which smartphone usage and 169 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:48.200 social media became universal. So we're more and more and 170 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:52.600 more engaged with people at an impersonal level. There's a 171 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:57.600 greater oddly enough social media. Forms of social media which 172 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:00.000 are designed to help you connect with other people actually 173 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:05.879 actually have an isolating of impact, to the point that 174 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:08.000 it's led Mark Zuckerberg to say, oh, why don't we 175 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:12.919 just create AI friends for people? Instead of having, you know, 176 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.000 your group of three friends and say you could have 177 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:19.279 fifteen friends, use AI to help you create friends. This 178 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:23.080 is an alienating, isolating and terrible thing. And maybe Pope Leo, 179 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:27.559 I would hope Pope Leo could shed some I think 180 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:29.559 really interesting and important. 181 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:30.120 Light on this whole thing. 182 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:36.240 Now, the last area I'm gonna sort of talk about 183 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:40.279 where AI can have a real impact on ethics, and 184 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:41.759 I hope Pop Leo talks about it. 185 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:43.039 I'm not sure if he's going to. 186 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:51.399 Is the area of bioethics. So you've got more and 187 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:57.200 more and more this proliferation of i've yf to create babies, 188 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.639 and more and more you're seeing developed this stuff called 189 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.480 crisper gene editing, So gene editing is a way to 190 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:08.039 help provide certain kinds of medical treatments to people by 191 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:13.720 altering the genome. And it's it's got a lot of 192 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.799 potential for good, but boy can have a lot of 193 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:17.679 potential for bad. 194 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:21.799 It can have a potential. 195 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:25.320 For editing human beings to make them idealized and perfect. 196 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:27.840 And especially in a world where you've got, you know, 197 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:32.159 massive increases in the number of people utilizing IVF to 198 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:36.559 create babies, where you already have sort of this eugenic 199 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:41.759 approach to things, there are some people who are utilizing 200 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:44.679 IVF in these kind of crassly eugenic ways. 201 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:50.639 They're recruiting. You know, you're buying eggs for IVF babies. 202 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:51.840 I mean my wife. 203 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:53.799 I remember my wife saw these ads all the time 204 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:57.679 when she was in college. You pay more for eggs 205 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:02.879 from women who are Harvard graduates and supermodels than you 206 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:08.279 do for anyone else's eggs. Paris Hilton talks very openly 207 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.919 about the sex selection process she had where she destroyed 208 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:14.120 gazillions of boy embryos so that she could finally get 209 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:16.960 a girl embryo, or I forget if it was that, 210 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:22.679 or vice versa. Anyway, there are all kinds of accounts 211 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.919 about wanting to utilize AI in conjunction with crisper gene 212 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:30.320 editing to try to create idealized human beings, and I 213 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:31.799 wonder if this is just going to lead to a 214 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:36.279 insane commodification of human life, especially if it's done in 215 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:43.840 the context of in virtual fertilization. So I am leery 216 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:46.559 of all these kinds of developments, and I would hope 217 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:50.320 that the Pope could maybe ably speak to those things. 218 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.960 Now when we return, I want to talk about why 219 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:57.960 this would be sort of a shift from the controversies 220 00:14:57.960 --> 00:14:59.399 of the Francis papacy. 221 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:01.000 That is next on the John Girardi Show. 222 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:06.440 Pope Leo has announced he wants to discuss the topic 223 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:10.399 of AI in his teaching over the course of his pontificate, 224 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:14.279 and I think this could represent a real shift from Francis. 225 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:20.480 All signs are kind of pointing to this. Francis sort 226 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:23.759 of wanted to sort of be reaching out to the 227 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:26.279 outside world, but a ton of the energy of his 228 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:29.879 papacy was focused on internal questions. 229 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:31.120 And. 230 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:35.399 That I do sort of wonder if his sort of 231 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.039 outward witness to the world was sort of undercut by 232 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:45.440 the internal questions that royaled Catholicism. Now Pope Francis gets 233 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:49.120 hit with this perception label of being liberal. Some of 234 00:15:49.159 --> 00:15:54.320 that is overstated. I do this to people I know, 235 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:56.840 to people that Pope Francis is more conservative than Donald 236 00:15:56.840 --> 00:16:03.720 Trump on abortion, gay marriage, in virtual fertilization, enormous the 237 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:06.600 role of women in society, like this enormous range of 238 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:10.360 issues where Pope France is actually more conservative than Donald Trump. Now, 239 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:15.840 maybe it's a little bit apples to oranges, but it's 240 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:20.799 a little overblown. Nonetheless, the thing about Francis is that 241 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:28.039 he did permit a ton of debates to happen over 242 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:32.240 a bunch of stuff that everybody had sort of thought 243 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:36.519 by the end of Benedict's papacy in twenty thirteen, he 244 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:41.480 just sort of allowed debate to just royal over things 245 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:43.399 that everyone sort of thought by the end of Benedict's 246 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:51.480 papacy were pretty well settled. Questions of Catholic teaching. Can 247 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:55.720 people who've been divorced and then gotten remarried without having 248 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:58.399 their first marriage declared null within the Catholic Church, can 249 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:01.919 they receive communion? Everyone thought the answer to that was 250 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:05.680 very clearly no. That was fairly well decided by John 251 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:09.319 Paul the second consistent with prior teaching, and Francis opens 252 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:11.240 that can of worms, and we have years long debate 253 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:14.559 over the topic, ending with well maybe kind of sort 254 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:17.160 of seems to maybe be permitted in one footnote, and 255 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:22.880 people are still angry and arguing about it. Should priests 256 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:28.279 be allowed to celebrate the Mass in its older Latin form? Well, 257 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:32.039 it seemed like for years it was yes, that's fine 258 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:34.200 if your bishop allows it, and then Bennetett comes along 259 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:37.119 and says, yeah, it's fine, just do it, and then 260 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:40.519 Francis allows a big debate about it, and no, it's 261 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:45.079 not okay, but it's kind of permitted. Catholics argued about 262 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.119 that for about two and a half years, still arguing 263 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:49.079 about it, still not feeling great about it. A lot 264 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:51.640 of bishops still uncomfortable, very uncomfortable with the rules that 265 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:55.319 Francis put in place. Unclear why he decided to open 266 00:17:55.319 --> 00:18:02.480 that can of worms. Should we have female deacons? It 267 00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:05.240 seems like we've had commission after commission after commission studying 268 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:05.559 this thing. 269 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:06.440 In Francis order is. 270 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:08.680 Another commission and another commission, another commission to study the 271 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:11.200 question whether Catholic should have female deacons and The answer 272 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:13.279 still seems to be, no, why are we still opening 273 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:18.480 up this can of worms? What is the Catholic Church's 274 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:22.039 teaching on the death penalty? Francis gives a new sort 275 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:24.519 of version of it, orders the old version of it, 276 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:26.240 written by John Paul the Second to be thrown out 277 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:30.680 of the Catechism, and it's like, well, the morality of 278 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.079 the death penalty didn't change, Like, why are we reformulating it? 279 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:41.920 Why are we reopening this can of worms? There were 280 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:45.519 should priests be allowed to get married? Or rather, should 281 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:50.920 married men be allowed to enter the priesthood again, something 282 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:55.200 that seemed fairly well settled again and again and again, and. 283 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:57.319 Oh of a sudden, we're having a big debate about 284 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:02.720 it in twenty nineteen. If you look at the timeline 285 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:11.400 of Francis's papacy, there was just constant controversy, controversy, controversy, controversy, controversy, controversy. 286 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:16.839 Much of it settled in a totally orthodox way. Some 287 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:19.880 of it settled in a fairly ambiguous way that made 288 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:24.519 a lot of conservatives pretty angry and upset, and conservatives 289 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:27.000 and more moderate leaning bishops throughout the world, many of 290 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:34.279 them were quite tired of this constant sort of and 291 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:37.200 I don't know if it's just Francis's personality that he 292 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:40.160 just liked people debating things and liked people talking about things, 293 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:45.039 or if he permitted this debate or encouraged this debate, 294 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:48.119 whatever it was. Certainly in some instances he encouraged debate 295 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:53.079 on it and then seemed to get mad when people 296 00:19:53.680 --> 00:19:58.039 criticized him too harshly on one side and fired people 297 00:19:58.079 --> 00:20:01.559 and made people lose their jobs. Certain cardinals who kind 298 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:06.640 of got unceremoniously fired because they were critical, well. 299 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:10.960 Either because they were so critical or immediately after being 300 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:17.200 so critical. So cause and effect. Clearly it was not 301 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:21.720 something that was There was controversy after controversy after controversy, 302 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:24.279 and it was all over internal stuff, and it sucked 303 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:28.119 up a lot of the oxygen of the Francis papacy. 304 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:31.559 And it seemed as though none of it was stuff 305 00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:33.839 that needed to happen. It was all stuff that had 306 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:38.680 felt pretty well that no one was really disputing by 307 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:43.559 the time of Pope Benedict, and to reopen all these 308 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:45.720 old wounds, it was happening again and again and again. 309 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:49.680 My hope, my prayer, and I think a lot of 310 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:52.119 internal signs are pointing to this is that pop Leio 311 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:56.359 doesn't want to open those old controversies, that maybe he 312 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:59.480 wants to resolve the controversies that are left dangling open 313 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:03.839 under answers and let sleeping dogs lie. A lot of 314 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:07.039 initial indications are that he is not his hostile to 315 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:11.519 the old Latin mess, that he was never too into 316 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:18.200 any of anything about homosexuality or any sort of deviations 317 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:26.480 from normal, boring, orthodox standard Christian morality. So I'm really 318 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:31.200 encouraged by Pope Leo and I'm hoping we can kind 319 00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:38.079 of close the door on these internal controversies heal and 320 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:44.000 resolve those and turn outward. And his desire to want 321 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:45.839 to tackle AI I think is a good sign of that. 322 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:51.160 I'm really hopeful for him. And frankly, you know, he's 323 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:52.720 elected at age sixty nine. 324 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:53.599 He could have a. 325 00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:56.839 Good you know, God knows how long he'll live, but 326 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:59.480 I mean, he could have a good twenty years as pope. 327 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.559 So I'm praying for him. I hope he can tackle 328 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:07.799 those things when we return. Gavin Newsom, unexpected hero of 329 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:10.480 the pro life cause. Wow, he has really ticked off 330 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:12.680 planned parenthood. You're gonna want to hear about this. This 331 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:21.400 is the John Girardi Show. Gavin Newsom has bizarrely enraged 332 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:27.400 the pro abortion crowd in California. You would never think it. 333 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:31.079 I mean, who has given them more dutiful, faithful service 334 00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:32.160 than Gavin Newsom. 335 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:33.799 Now I'm gonna talk about this. 336 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:35.920 We're gonna talk about it a little bit tomorrow on 337 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:37.759 Right to Life Radio, but I want to give you 338 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:41.960 a taste of it today just because I'm sure Newsom 339 00:22:42.079 --> 00:22:44.960 is about to poop his pants because of how this 340 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:49.440 could impact his presidential ambition. So what is happening this week? 341 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:54.240 Gavin Newsom gave what's called his May revise. Basically, he 342 00:22:54.279 --> 00:22:57.279 gives an initial proposal for the budget in January, and 343 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:01.960 then in May he revises it based on new data 344 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:08.960 about tax revenue coming in after April of after you know, 345 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:16.279 the April tax day. So here's Newsom facing at least 346 00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:22.799 a twelve billion dollar budget deficit. Not good governors can't 347 00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:26.039 just spend into the red. State governments can't just bend 348 00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:28.960 into the red the way that the federal government can. 349 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:31.720 He's got to do something about it. So Newsom. 350 00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:35.480 The biggest thing that Newsom, the headline thing that Newsom 351 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:40.279 is cutting back on is medical coverage for illegal aliens, 352 00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:49.200 and I think that's the start of this. So Planned 353 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:53.200 Parenthood of California, they're five to one C four. It's 354 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:55.160 led by this gal named Jody Hicks. So five on 355 00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:57.960 one C four is basically a five to one C 356 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:01.640 three is UH doesn't pay taxes and donations to it 357 00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:04.759 are tax deductible. Five A one C four doesn't pay taxes, 358 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:07.880 but donations to it are not tax deductible to the donor. 359 00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:11.119 But a five A one C four can do more 360 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:14.039 political stuff. So they can do an unlimited amount of 361 00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:19.119 issue advocacy, and they can do some direct candidate and 362 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:20.759 party advocacy. 363 00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:23.599 Okay, Now. 364 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.880 Jody Hicks comes out and says she is outraged, we 365 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:35.480 are outraged, uses the word outraged at Gavin Newsom for 366 00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:41.240 his decision to cut a third, one third, five hundred 367 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:48.519 million dollars worth of Planned Parenthood funding. Hmm, I say 368 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:53.599 five hundred million. That's a lot for Planned Parenthood, certainly. Now, 369 00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:58.960 she doesn't sort of say how and doesn't talk about 370 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:07.079 the specifics. She says cutting fully one third of Planned 371 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:12.240 Parenthood's funding in California, she is outraged at it, and 372 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:16.079 the wording of it is like, who I mean. I've 373 00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:20.039 seen liberal groups get frustrated with Gavin Newsom before for 374 00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:22.680 stuff he has had to cut from prior state budgets 375 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.039 when we've had deficits, and they say, you know, we 376 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:27.839 are disappointed, but we are looking forward to working with 377 00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:30.160 Governor Newsom to maybe see if we can come to it. 378 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:31.799 Blah blah blah blah blah. 379 00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:34.119 There are all kinds of ways that they will couch 380 00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:37.839 their language to try to you know, we can't totally 381 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:38.839 burn this bridge. 382 00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:41.319 We have to work with the governor, you know. Blah 383 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:43.839 blah blah blah blah. 384 00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:48.480 And No Planned Parented is saying we are outraged he 385 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:53.440 has effectively defunded Planned Parenthood when Congressional Republicans are trying 386 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:57.440 to do the same thing, and we are looking forward 387 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:02.599 to working with members of the legislature to reinstate this 388 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:05.759 funding with members of the legislator like, we're not even 389 00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:10.480 gonna bother working with Gavin Newsom on it, which I 390 00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:15.799 find to be wild. So they are so angry and 391 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.640 what are they angry about? Well, I think what they're 392 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:28.200 angry about is Gavin Newsom's cutting medical funding for illegal 393 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:31.359 aliens and let me let me just explain this whole thing. Okay, 394 00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:36.599 even before he added illegal aliens, medical was in trouble. 395 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.200 Because here's here's the basic dynamic. Newsom comes in on 396 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:43.319 his white horse in twenty eighteen running for governor and 397 00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:46.400 he says, I'm not gonna be like those other liberal politicians. 398 00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:49.759 I'm going to promote single payer healthcare. Single payer health care. 399 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:56.640 That's what I'm gonna do. Single payer healthcare. Every liberal 400 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:59.000 politician says they're going to do it. And then when 401 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:00.920