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<v Speaker 1>Captain. We're heading for Transporter Room three. This is your

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<v Speaker 1>three with your hosts Phil Perello and Soak Laura Energize.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to another episode of Transporter Room three DS nine edition.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Scott, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? Man? You said that with such a conviction, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was. It's been a little while this episode

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be talking about today. Maybe just were horses. No,

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<v Speaker 2>just it's We're continuing our commentary series on season two,

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<v Speaker 2>episode two, the part two of the part three of

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<v Speaker 2>the three part premiere of DAS nine. I was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to do a literation thing there Star Trek, Deep Space,

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<v Speaker 2>Lines of the Circle, the middle chapter of an epic

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<v Speaker 2>three parter premiere that held Little Me hostage back when

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<v Speaker 2>this originally aired in ninety four. Yeah, guy, so yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what it was? Ninety five? Wait?

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<v Speaker 2>It has it been thirty years?

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<v Speaker 1>We should know this?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, sorry, I was around ninety three October.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen ninety three. Okay, okay, right right, yeah, god, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because January ninety three was DAS nine's premiere and

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<v Speaker 2>then season two came. Wow, those guys barely.

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<v Speaker 4>Had a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, it wasn't it. I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard them say, like, yeah, we'd get would go on

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<v Speaker 1>vacation for like two weeks, and then we'd be right back,

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<v Speaker 1>right back in the writer's room, you know, so like

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<v Speaker 1>crazy grinding on like twenty six scripts.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be able to do it. I'd need a

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<v Speaker 2>month up. I need summer Vaca. Baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is why you wind up with masks and

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<v Speaker 1>if wishes were horses, right right, Okay, before we get started,

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<v Speaker 2>The Offspring freaks his first episode directing of TG.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're in thirty five and.

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<v Speaker 2>about the making of that. The Visitor also celebrated a

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<v Speaker 1>Hashtag not bitter and uh yeah you're my Your two

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<v Speaker 1>parter with Michael Kuda went up recently. Yeah, it's a great,

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<v Speaker 1>great listen on that one where he talks about a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of different stuff, everything from the movies to Voyager.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're working on getting a few other Trek notaries.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, always working on those. So okay, so should

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<v Speaker 1>we start this episode. I'm cued up to the zero

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<v Speaker 1>zero point zero zero zero one?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are you doing the destruct code?

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing the distruct code, but the inflection of

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<v Speaker 1>yours was very much the Picard authorization code.

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<v Speaker 4>Zero zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's Bookard just talking about this about the sector

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<v Speaker 1>zero zero one.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, when you reach middle age, you're allowed to quote

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<v Speaker 5>locutas on your Star Trek podcast. Well, I mean I

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<v Speaker 5>heard it, and you know, I've never had asthma before

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<v Speaker 5>until just now. I hailary manifested, I got a retainer,

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<v Speaker 5>gone now.

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<v Speaker 2>A MANI pack even.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know what, may Inhaler disappeared because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get the reference immediately. H I'm really embarrassed by that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I thought that we were going to destruct code.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, at least you still have your pocket protector.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's start this episode, and you guys, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys ready on a countdown of three two one,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, ready three two one, play last last time

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<v Speaker 1>Space nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait and now the continuation had always got me like,

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<v Speaker 2>ooh ooh, we never heard that before. So this episode

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<v Speaker 2>was written by the great late Peter Allen Fields. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it aired three two years ago next week, October third,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Peter Allen Fields, who was one of the He's

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<v Speaker 1>not as as like name recognizable as some of the

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<v Speaker 1>other Trek writers, but he was one of the integral

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the development of Deep Space line. He was

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<v Speaker 1>older than the other guys I think, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>Iris Stephen Bear for one, definitely considered him a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a mentor figure while they when they work together

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<v Speaker 1>on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we also have an interview with Iris Stephen Bear

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<v Speaker 2>on our site from twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, holy caah, holy cow. Who did that interview me?

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<v Speaker 2>It was celebrating some Star Trek milestones.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I also think we have one from ninety three from

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, the three yeth anniversary of a Team

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<v Speaker 2>of a DS night.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I interviewed him for one of the anniversaries, I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So Frank Glinjela uncredited, He didn't want the credit,

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't get why he would want to be uncredited, but.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a very solid performance here. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>because it was just something for his children. He just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do something for them because they were a fan,

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<v Speaker 2>or his grandchildren something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, they finally such a great villain on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes he is great. Yeah, well he has the kai

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<v Speaker 1>Win there's a certain brand of Bajurin villain, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the like sort of disarming but so annoyingly hateful. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>win Rick Colb, I'm going to drop a few quotes

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<v Speaker 1>from the speaking of Trexperts, whatever the hell it's called,

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<v Speaker 1>few quotes Winrick Colb, the director, he said, Frank Langella

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<v Speaker 1>scared the shit out of me. There's a mytho, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a mythology around him. He's a tremendous actor, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got those dark brown eyes that seemed to strip you

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<v Speaker 1>and I figured this guy could be trouble because there's

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<v Speaker 1>something in him that tells you watch that guy. If

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<v Speaker 1>you to fuck off. But he didn't. He was terrific.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is good. Especially, I guess when you're not

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<v Speaker 1>take getting your credit or and you're working for Scale

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, maybe right you're really in a position to say,

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<v Speaker 1>funck off, I'm Dracula, bitch, I'm skeletor so where so

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<v Speaker 1>where we left off, because I know it's been been

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<v Speaker 1>a minute since we talked about part one of this

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<v Speaker 1>three parter, But basically Kira was removed from her position

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<v Speaker 1>and Lee Knollis Richard Bimer was was was made Cisco's

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<v Speaker 2>And this is also sorry Scott, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, just real quick. Cisco was pissed about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he still is. But but Frank Glinngela's character basically

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<v Speaker 1>sold it as, oh no, it's a promotion for for

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<v Speaker 1>Major Kira, so that Cisco backed kind of back down.

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<v Speaker 1>But obviously things are messed up.

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<v Speaker 2>And that scene was the first appearance of Cisco's baseball

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<v Speaker 2>on his desk.

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<v Speaker 1>Really mm hmm, that was it? That was not in

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<v Speaker 1>season one?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>What yeah? I know, right's more circle, more graffiti.

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<v Speaker 1>More graffiti. Can't they do a biometric scan of everyone

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<v Speaker 1>on the station to find who has residue while the.

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<v Speaker 2>Opening titles plays. Speaking of Lee Naals a bit ago,

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<v Speaker 2>writer Peter Allen Fields had some issue with the character.

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<v Speaker 2>He felt that the character became lost in somewhat uh

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<v Speaker 2>superfluous in this episode and later in the three parter

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<v Speaker 2>The Siege. To quote Alan Fields, originally he was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be this regular guy, not a coward, but a

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<v Speaker 2>regular guy who had fought some battles. And then by

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<v Speaker 2>the time we got to the third episode, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>would stand up and be counted. But for various reasons,

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<v Speaker 2>he never really changed his tune. He was an okay

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<v Speaker 2>guy in part one, Part two, and part three. There

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<v Speaker 2>was no arc for this character whatsoever. H and I

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<v Speaker 2>Receiven Bear agrees in the Star Trek DS nine companion

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<v Speaker 2>he did get a little lost in parts two and three.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I remember when we were recording the first

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<v Speaker 1>episode for this Ira Steven Barr wasn't particularly fond of

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<v Speaker 1>the performance either, right.

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<v Speaker 2>He felt it was a little flat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the episode still works regardless of what your

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<v Speaker 2>opinions are of that performance.

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<v Speaker 4>Like this whole three this three parter is.

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<v Speaker 1>A sign Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Hey, by the way, oh

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>We do this a lot. This is fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Go.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, Alexander Sidik, I just spotted him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm catching up finally on the last bits of Foundation

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<v Speaker 1>season three, and he popped. He had a very brief

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<v Speaker 1>role in season one. He showed up in like, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, one scene in one episode in season one.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's back in a somewhat expanded role in season three,

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<v Speaker 1>playing his own his own descendant because it's like takes

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<v Speaker 1>place hundreds of years after season one. Uh, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he's back. So I'm always glad when I see that

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<v Speaker 1>those guys pop up in non star Trek stuff, not

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<v Speaker 1>not just having to go to conventions to make a living,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right, this is a fun scene for what

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<v Speaker 1>is a pretty heavy episode, right, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole this whole three parter is pretty heavy in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what's going on. But this is a fun,

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<v Speaker 1>fun kind of you know it feels like it could

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<v Speaker 1>be in a sitcom if he didn't know any better.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's popping in one of the time to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>either wish cure goodbye or to try to convince her

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<v Speaker 1>to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone should have convinced Odo not to go with that hair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he doesn't have the collar yet on the uniform.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets the collar. I think in season three, Season three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, speaking of this scene, Fields, he based the

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The director of this episode, Corey Allen, shot this

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<v Speaker 2>scene in one continuous, uninterrupted take. When the episode was

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<v Speaker 2>close ups and reverse angles. Okay, the master shot of

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<v Speaker 4>Big wonner, that it wasn't the full winner.

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<v Speaker 1>does you know it also like so you're now you're

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<v Speaker 1>who will start it off as you know, really be

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<v Speaker 2>Right surreal?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you have the star Starfleaders who are star leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>a man alone. That's an Odo episode, right, And then

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<v Speaker 1>uh and then the Quark Quark, right, and and now

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<v Speaker 2>You could not do this scene on any other show

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<v Speaker 2>but this, Yeah, Jilly, where this dynamic would allow something

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's true. I also like Kia Kura's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's had various uniform changes over the seven seasons, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I always like this undershirt or whatever it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, like the hammock like crossed itch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, below the neck. Yeah. Now, I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>up last season?

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<v Speaker 4>This might be his.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only time it's miss spelled when when it

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<v Speaker 4>On the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and I think you said last his hair, Look

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<v Speaker 1>how thick this guy's hair is. Did you say that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>He's yeah, it's a balding man. I'm just I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I spot man with thick care. I won't have my problem.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the original hot priest.

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<v Speaker 2>His original hot priest. Yes, this outfit looks comfidie outfits.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so a little bit interesting angle too.

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<v Speaker 2>We never see this angle again in Ops.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that is different, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Allan shot the shit out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a great star trek director.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it too because it's like Kira has the

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<v Speaker 1>Ops has been her home for however long, and now

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<v Speaker 1>she's not welcome there anymore. It's like it's an alien

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<v Speaker 1>place to her in a way, it's not. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>And that framing implies that, yeah, that she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, see I went to film school, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm smart. So this is what Michael Pillar said about this.

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<v Speaker 1>The first three parter that kicked off the season was

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<v Speaker 1>done for next gen. I think that we succeeded. Those

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<v Speaker 1>storytelling that we were able to do in The special

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<v Speaker 1>effects were terrific, the guest stars were great, and the

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<v Speaker 1>credibility was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Lee n Allis looks pretty good in that uniform too.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it looks a little baggy.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like I'm wearing my dad's suit the eighth

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<v Speaker 2>grade homecoming.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit, a little bit right, like a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't have size too big, you know, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't argue. I like the style though. I like

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<v Speaker 2>Love the color. I love Yeah, I love the vibe

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<v Speaker 2>of these costumes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Like I'm not sure if I don't, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if we've seen that version of the Bijar

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<v Speaker 1>uniform like that before. The uniforms are way better than

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<v Speaker 2>This Yes they are. These uniforms look more like TNG

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<v Speaker 2>esque star Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I never was a fan of this uniform me neither.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they put them on the next gen

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<v Speaker 1>people in generations, it was like, get the fuck out

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<v Speaker 2>The uniforms they did for uh first contact and then

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<v Speaker 1>where they were like they were like, no, yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, Deep like Deep Space nine will get

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<v Speaker 1>these uniforms too at the appropriate time, because it's like

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<v Speaker 1>they've become standards and like, and Voyager didn't get them

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<v Speaker 1>because they didn't know jack shit about them because they

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<v Speaker 1>were on the other side of the universe. And then

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<v Speaker 1>eventually when they I think it was when they finally

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<v Speaker 1>and path finder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, then they were like

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, all right, we'll be We'll bet me

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<v Speaker 1>the specs. Yeah. You know it's like, uh, you can

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<v Speaker 1>you could probably pick up the pattern that at your

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<v Speaker 2>Always I was surprised that that wasn't like a B

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<v Speaker 2>or C story on the show. You know, let's make

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<v Speaker 2>let's have a uniform contest with like Naomi Wildman or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that just designed the new uniforms and and

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<v Speaker 2>Neglos has to make them, but the people has to

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<v Speaker 1>of uniforms, I do not like Kira's outfit here, not

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<v Speaker 1>to turn this into project.

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<v Speaker 2>Her terrace uh meets farmer attire. And also I would

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<v Speaker 2>not be wearing that outfit that close to water. You

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<v Speaker 2>could scrape the little if if you miss a step

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<v Speaker 2>on those little stepping stones.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet done, well, it gets real heavy, real fast because

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<v Speaker 1>it's soaking wet at that point. Right, yes, but Kira's

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<v Speaker 1>never She's anyone trying to get Kia to make a

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<v Speaker 1>the just this is not Kira, right, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the way, you know, not to go a stray. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we were telling my kid about the two vis episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Voyager.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you respond to that?

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, he was fascinated by it, and we

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<v Speaker 1>I think we somehow have never done that one, which

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<v Speaker 1>is surprising. Yeah we should. Yeah, it's an interesting one

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Some more on on this episode from the from the

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<v Speaker 1>writers I R. Steven Burr said, Michael, back from his

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<v Speaker 1>days as a network executive, is definitely a man who

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<v Speaker 1>is into publicity. And he said, you know, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do a cliffhanger. Let's do a three parter. Let's do

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<v Speaker 1>three and let's jump off from in the Hands of

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<v Speaker 1>the Profits. And since I have to relate everything to

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<v Speaker 1>either a book or a movie in my life, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems I said so in other words, and the Hands

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<v Speaker 1>of the Prophets is the Hobbit, and now we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he knew what I was talking about, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's how I saw it. So, yeah, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>how these Bajoran sets worked, because they they they use them,

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<v Speaker 1>but not that like that. They pop up throughout the seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>but not that often is it? So I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they're standing sets. But I wonder did they just have

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<v Speaker 1>they have chunk Bajoran chunks of set that they just

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, perhaps, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably something like that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The Temple set is we see versions of this thrap

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<v Speaker 2>the show. They were just like do regresses of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because arts we kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Become the Yeah. And when they're viewing the ORB on DS.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine, right yep. And that that big Bajoran symbol in

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<v Speaker 1>the background and they're behind the ORB right now, Uh

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<v Speaker 1>that you throw that on the set and suddenly you've

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<v Speaker 4>I guess right right, that's all you need.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a little graphic.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you name every ORB right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Time m Destiny, No, Scott, thanks, Compelling Radio. We just

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<v Speaker 2>made it here.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you name them?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? You have the uh, you have space time uh Power?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the one that that protein I'm naming the Infinity Gauntlet.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually that might be gross similarities there.

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<v Speaker 2>Gross, This is a creepy vision to the way it's

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<v Speaker 2>shot and lit. I always did appreciate how they lit

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<v Speaker 2>the the ORB scenes. Yeah, that blown out of the worldly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah vision quest type vibe.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, fanboys couldn't handle this part.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little weird that they have the same hairstyle though,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I mean this is like between the

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I can tell them apart right showing

426
00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:46.079
<v Speaker 1>the not visitor would love to hear that.

427
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<v Speaker 2>H Now watch this screen?

428
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah this, I was going to say, what is what

429
00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:09.839
<v Speaker 1>is this tech? I don't you don't see this that often,

430
00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:10.079
<v Speaker 1>do you?

431
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:12.920
<v Speaker 2>This is the first and only time this flat screen

432
00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.279
<v Speaker 2>slides up.

433
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<v Speaker 4>And out of his desk.

434
00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:16.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

435
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:27.319
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, very interesting. You know, it's it's

436
00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:28.519
<v Speaker 4>that's cool.

437
00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.880
<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things though, where it's like, what,

438
00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>like it's tech that doesn't make sense because it's not.

439
00:24:36.599 --> 00:24:41.799
<v Speaker 1>It's it's so cumbersome and awkward, right like well, like O,

440
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>why would he He's got a freaking screen right on

441
00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:47.599
<v Speaker 1>his desk there that where last season he used to

442
00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:50.279
<v Speaker 1>talk to people on that Like having to have that

443
00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:52.039
<v Speaker 1>thing come up and down every time you want to

444
00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:53.400
<v Speaker 1>talk to someone.

445
00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:56.559
<v Speaker 2>I know, it doesn't make so practical.

446
00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:01.799
<v Speaker 1>And this this is good. This stuff with Quark here.

447
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Always a great scene, like Quark hit with.

448
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:15.400
<v Speaker 1>His ear to the ground, right like him? He and

449
00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Odo or like they have a lot in common in

450
00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>a way because they that's why Yeah, yeah, that's why,

451
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:27.319
<v Speaker 1>And that's why they love each other.

452
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:32.720
<v Speaker 4>I do love their relationship a lot.

453
00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:40.039
<v Speaker 1>I was just watching Veep the other night that an

454
00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:43.400
<v Speaker 1>oldie but a goodie and Rene Oborsino's son was.

455
00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:45.000
<v Speaker 4>On No Way.

456
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Who did he play?

457
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:53.119
<v Speaker 1>He played like a asshole senator. Basically, he's one of

458
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:56.160
<v Speaker 1>these guys who shows up and stuff. He played. He

459
00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>played Peggy's asshole, a gynecologist on Madmen. I don't know

460
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>if you remember that character, Yes, Remi or Borgia, I

461
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:10.559
<v Speaker 1>think his name is. He's the guy on Madmen who's like,

462
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:15.079
<v Speaker 1>he's like smoking, He's like giving Peggy a gynecological example

463
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 1>while he's smoking and lecturing her about not being promiscuous

464
00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>or something.

465
00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:32.240
<v Speaker 6>It's like, hair, I'm sorry they did your journey.

466
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>His hand doesn't change that much from this this style, though,

467
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:36.599
<v Speaker 1>does it.

468
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:38.200
<v Speaker 2>It's a little flatter.

469
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:41.559
<v Speaker 1>I like that your deputy or your prisoner.

470
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Great great exchange, great scene because he knows how to

471
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>push his button.

472
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Lee n Allis is like he doesn't even know.

473
00:26:58.559 --> 00:26:59.640
<v Speaker 4>He's just like hanging out.

474
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:01.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, He's like, what am I supposed to be doing?

475
00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Like I think he literally says that, right.

476
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:06.680
<v Speaker 2>The guy was The guy was based like the writers

477
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:08.079
<v Speaker 2>saying what is he supposed to be doing?

478
00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:11.599
<v Speaker 1>The guy was smashing rocks in the prison camp like

479
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>two days ago. Yeah, just hang out, like, let me

480
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:35.279
<v Speaker 1>let me ask you the rank Kira's lovers Odo Odo?

481
00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I just called you Odo, Phil he did.

482
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 2>I can't anything after that, Scott, I've thrown no after.

483
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 1>After suggesting a really awkward topic as well. Who do

484
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>you got? You got Barile, You've got uh Shakar, You've

485
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>got Odo. I think that's it, right, I think so,

486
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I kind of. I don't think any of them are

487
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>good for her.

488
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Wait, yeah, no, I don't think.

489
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I never liked the I never liked the Odo.

490
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>She deserves better than what she got.

491
00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what she needed, She needed some some

492
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Thomas Reiker.

493
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Action that there was a flirtation there.

494
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>I know. That's why I say it almost happened. I'm

495
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:30.400
<v Speaker 1>sure that the actors love this, being able to go

496
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 1>go out and actually shoot outside.

497
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's a beautiful location too, if you've ever

498
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:36.839
<v Speaker 2>been there.

499
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Where is it?

500
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I believe this is the Japanese Garden or or the

501
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:46.559
<v Speaker 2>DeSoto Garden in California.

502
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:56.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay. I like how vedic Win is acting like

503
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't know who Kira is, right, m h.

504
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:09.359
<v Speaker 4>She's such an asshole here she feels effective villain.

505
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Whether she say, feel free this day, even if it's

506
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:14.559
<v Speaker 1>through the rest of the day or something like that.

507
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.319
<v Speaker 2>And the way she just kind of like dismisses.

508
00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Her Yeah, yeah, every word is like laced with poison.

509
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Say everything with a smile, yeah, even a week if necessary.

510
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny because the actress, like, you know,

511
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>she obviously got she got type cast after one flew

512
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 1>over the COB's ness, right, So this character is like

513
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a version of that, which I'm sure as an actress

514
00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:15.119
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be frustrating. But at the same time

515
00:30:16.319 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 1>that type casting is what got her this job. I'm

516
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>sure that's why she was cast and it and it

517
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.359
<v Speaker 1>leads to some really interesting stuff that she gets to

518
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 1>do on this show, you know. So it's a little

519
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>bit of a you know, I could see the negatives

520
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>of the type casting, but in the case like this,

521
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I could see, you know, there's some real positives as well.

522
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, kay Wynn becomes one of the great bad

523
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:39.799
<v Speaker 1>guys of Star.

524
00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:41.519
<v Speaker 4>Trek, one of my favorite bad guys.

525
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.039
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so effective that the character of the performance

526
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>gets under my skin, you know, like this graphic all

527
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:50.880
<v Speaker 2>of this is amazing.

528
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really cool for room situation here. Yeah, yeah,

529
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>speak speaking of you know, making something from not a lot, right,

530
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 1>because like, look at those lights on the wall behind

531
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Cisco that looks like to me like a tnng said

532
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>mm hmm. I'm trying to picture what it is, like

533
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a hallway or something. But but it's like they they

534
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.559
<v Speaker 1>had to this. He's basically visiting like the military commander

535
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>of beijor or some shit, right, whoever this guy is,

536
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, so we need something that looks cool,

537
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:23.799
<v Speaker 1>and there you go, right, And it's like they put

538
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:25.799
<v Speaker 1>they hob cobbled together a bunch of stuff and then

539
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:27.279
<v Speaker 1>they came up with this thing. I would love to

540
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>actually ask Akuda about this thing on the wall.

541
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he must have had a hand in designing some Yeah.

542
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like they just did the blow up of

543
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:38.039
<v Speaker 1>a big map and then they threw some cool graphics

544
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>over it. But it works really well. He's wearing a

545
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:45.599
<v Speaker 1>Le Nalis style uniform as well. His actually fits better

546
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>than Lee Nalis's. Some more from that book, Robert Hewett

547
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Wolfe said, the premise of the show is one of

548
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.559
<v Speaker 1>cerialization the whole point, and we realized this very quickly.

549
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Is that the show was about consequences, how the things

550
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>we do ripple and echo and sustain, and we did

551
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.279
<v Speaker 1>not warp away every week at the end of the episode.

552
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 1>The premise of come to a planet, have an adventure

553
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>warp away is inherently an episode by episode standalone premise.

554
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>We've heard this before from these guys. The premise have

555
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:19.279
<v Speaker 1>come to this place and take control of it and

556
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:22.559
<v Speaker 1>build into it into something better is not that there's

557
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.359
<v Speaker 1>a serialized premise and inherently lends itself to that kind

558
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>of storytelling. That was a part what we were what

559
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.839
<v Speaker 1>we were figuring out. But it didn't take very long

560
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to figure that one out, to be honest. It was

561
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a quick realization and that's what led to, you know,

562
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.839
<v Speaker 1>this three parter, which in a way is a four parter,

563
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess it because it is a direct follow up

564
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>in the hands of the profits from the season finale

565
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>with the school, the school being fire bombed and all

566
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>that stuff.

567
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 4>Right, A great, great episode.

568
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:57.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that was Kai Wentz Vetic. Well, yeah, and

569
00:32:57.599 --> 00:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>that was her debut.

570
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.400
<v Speaker 4>I think so.

571
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Amazing.

572
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:07.279
<v Speaker 4>Villain can't I can't say enough about that villain.

573
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.759
<v Speaker 1>So Lee Nahlis is doing okay, right now, considering he

574
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't really know like anything about the job, right, like

575
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>he's kind of stepped in he feels he seems pretty

576
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 1>self assured all of a sudden.

577
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 2>This is giving something to do. Also, doesn't this makeup

578
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:37.400
<v Speaker 2>look very uh like your car from a bat blank life?

579
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

580
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and cursed the gem Honda as well.

581
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:47.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was gonna say, and reminiscent of that lizard

582
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.559
<v Speaker 1>guy who oh Brian made friends with in season one

583
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a little a little bit but not quite I guess

584
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>more gem Hidar. Right, it's an extensive makeup for what

585
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>is a very bit part alright, mm hmm. And yeah,

586
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and so Brian about to get this ass kicked?

587
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:27.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

588
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, they just smuggled Odo on. That's what it is, right.

589
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I like that. I like the idea of Odo is

590
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>not the suitcase, He's just the label on the suitcase.

591
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:47.639
<v Speaker 1>I asked that about O'Brien because he often does get

592
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>his ass kicked right.

593
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:49.320
<v Speaker 4>A little bit?

594
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh uh. I wonder how hard it was to bring

595
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 2>those into this set, that little set deck.

596
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well are they inside? Now?

597
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:16.559
<v Speaker 2>This might be an interior set, Yeah, it's that that's

598
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 2>an elaborate interior on the planet. If they did a

599
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:21.840
<v Speaker 2>plane at hell set up here.

600
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:26.840
<v Speaker 1>The lighting feels interior, but the but yeah, the set itself.

601
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a freaking there's a freaking waterfall behind him.

602
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they could have added that. Yeah.

603
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's that seems pretty extensive. I want to

604
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>make a waterfall like that in my backyard.

605
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:44.280
<v Speaker 4>Actually, i'mbout the whole. I want to recreate this.

606
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, honey, I want to make a Bajoran temple in

607
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>my backyard. Did you see Shatner's heading up to Trek

608
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>conder Roga again or whatever? I don't know what they

609
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>call it, taich the Taeknderoga, Trek Conderoga. I think maybe

610
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:07.079
<v Speaker 1>it's a specific weekend, but he's got he's heading up

611
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>there again. I think in November maybe or something, and

612
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:15.639
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of them were just there a couple of

613
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago.

614
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

615
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Terry Farrell, Kate Mulgrew, Armide Shimmerman.

616
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Gotta get that Kachin. Yeah, Scott, when are we going

617
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:30.079
<v Speaker 2>to go to Tech Honderoga. Well, you don't have to go,

618
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>my friend.

619
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:33.360
<v Speaker 1>I would like to. I would like to hear some

620
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>news on the next generation sets that were supposedly being built. Yeah,

621
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 1>because it feels like there's not too much moment momentum

622
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:42.800
<v Speaker 1>forward momentum on that. Apparently they are building a shovel

623
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 1>craft though, did you hear about that?

624
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>He did, Yes, the Galileo correct.

625
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I think so. I like how these guys, these guys

626
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:54.480
<v Speaker 1>just came out of nowhere. Cisco wouldn't Cisco hear them?

627
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.559
<v Speaker 1>Right like? That seems a little abrupt. And you want

628
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:03.119
<v Speaker 1>to talk about not being dressed appropriately to walk around

629
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 1>in a creek. These guys are wearing freaking monk robes.

630
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:16.119
<v Speaker 1>So when Odo is a rat or a mouse, his

631
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>brain is still able to understand language.

632
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 2>He lands with necks like this, and that's what you.

633
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 1>Get.

634
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:38.719
<v Speaker 7>Get the fuck addy?

635
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh that was a how they get that mouse to

636
00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>do that, that rat to do that?

637
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:45.440
<v Speaker 4>Good question?

638
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I like how they have to for this is more

639
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>for the audience than then for the terrorists, right like,

640
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>we got the spray paint the thing here just so

641
00:37:53.840 --> 00:38:07.880
<v Speaker 1>everyone realizes. So why does minister Jarrow feel like he

642
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:09.159
<v Speaker 1>has to reveal himself here?

643
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 2>Because reasons? Scott m hm, reasons. Now this is the

644
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:21.039
<v Speaker 2>planet Hell said, sure.

645
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, this definitely is Yeah, I'm looking for ambassador's.

646
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:34.559
<v Speaker 2>Back right, found him great reveal, by the way.

647
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 1>But the thing about him too, about the Angela character

648
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:48.320
<v Speaker 1>is like as with a lot of the Federation, uh,

649
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>with a lot of the Bajorn figures who wind up

650
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:57.159
<v Speaker 1>being painted as villains, is like, you know, in some

651
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:02.280
<v Speaker 1>ways you got to hear him out right, like, and

652
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:02.880
<v Speaker 1>they do.

653
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 2>You can see where he's coming from. You don't want

654
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.519
<v Speaker 2>to be on his side, but you see why he's

655
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:14.039
<v Speaker 2>on it, right, Yeah, but it's a little too fanatical.

656
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>It's fanatical. Yeah, but then when you also paint it

657
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:21.239
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure they do it with him that much,

658
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:25.840
<v Speaker 1>but like when you paint it with the idea that

659
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>these people have endured forty or fifty years of occupation

660
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:34.559
<v Speaker 1>as well, yes, like what does that? What does that create? Jail?

661
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:35.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

662
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>And actually, in terms of Vedic Win, I'm not sure

663
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 1>that we ever got and I might be mistaken and

664
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 1>just not remembering this now, but I'm not sure we

665
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>ever got a ton of backstory on her to help

666
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 1>explain why the way she was. Maybe I'm wrong about that.

667
00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.800
<v Speaker 4>Do you recall I don't.

668
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Anyone anyone listening refresh our memory? And write in and

669
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 1>tell us if they did, because I can't remember that,

670
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:08.679
<v Speaker 1>and she was on so often that you would think

671
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:13.280
<v Speaker 1>they would have. Those guys are going this is terrible.

672
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Those guys are going to beat the ship out of

673
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Cure right now. And again you said this last episode,

674
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:31.599
<v Speaker 1>but uh, the Richard Bimer character was that there were

675
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:35.079
<v Speaker 1>were they were considering making him a regular in the

676
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:38.119
<v Speaker 1>early drafts of this right he was they were thinking

677
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>of having a regular or recurring character. They didn't recurring recurring. Sorry, yeah, okay,

678
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I I think he fits in pretty good right now

679
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 1>with these guys.

680
00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:00.159
<v Speaker 2>I think he fits in fire Yeah, fucking orange are

681
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:08.880
<v Speaker 2>and so good in this scene. Yeah, so I want

682
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:11.400
<v Speaker 2>someone when someone going to pull a te Conda Roga

683
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:13.800
<v Speaker 2>and build the DS nine ops so I can hang

684
00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.239
<v Speaker 2>out on it. Right, So the one set I wish

685
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I could have visited.

686
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Man.

687
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was watching This Side of Paradise, the original

688
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.039
<v Speaker 2>series episode with the spor Plants.

689
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:25.199
<v Speaker 4>I was watching that morning.

690
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there's you know when it's just Kirk on

691
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the bridge by himself and they reference that shot in Relics.

692
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's right, they production, Yeah, they actually do. They

693
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.360
<v Speaker 1>actually use that for the when the doors to the

694
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>holiday open that I.

695
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Think so, Yeah, I think so. I think they used

696
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:50.239
<v Speaker 2>but they must have like cropped out Kirk somehow. But

697
00:41:50.599 --> 00:41:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I just watched and I was like, man, I wish

698
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 2>I could have gone on that original and the Teknda

699
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Roga one is as close as you're going to freaking

700
00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:58.239
<v Speaker 2>get to it, but I just wait.

701
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we've been on those sound stages, right, Yes

702
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.320
<v Speaker 1>we have. I mean, I guess that's not a big

703
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>deal to say, but for a long Island boy like me,

704
00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:14.360
<v Speaker 1>it was exciting. I think I got drunk on those

705
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>sound stages. Actually. At that Star Trek party that we

706
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 1>went to for Star Trek behind right.

707
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Where are My Nemessy held a trivia contest and denied

708
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:29.239
<v Speaker 2>a young child dressed as are Born the correct answer

709
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:33.320
<v Speaker 2>because he didn't say it, and he was right, but

710
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:35.519
<v Speaker 2>he didn't say the full phrase.

711
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no.

712
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:41.239
<v Speaker 2>He got into a little kid's face. People were booing him,

713
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:46.679
<v Speaker 2>including Carl Urban, Chris Pine, I'm John Choe, give the

714
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:51.760
<v Speaker 2>kid a thing, and Zachary Quinto No, no, no, gotta

715
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:52.280
<v Speaker 2>get it right.

716
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 1>A little bit of action in an otherwise talkie episode

717
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:06.679
<v Speaker 1>having some like close quarter phaser fire here. Right, This

718
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:11.119
<v Speaker 1>is another interesting angle, the way the cameras up there with.

719
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Speaker 4>Her and the number on.

720
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like they're hiding they're hiding her face at first,

721
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:19.039
<v Speaker 1>like Julie doesn't see it.

722
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she sells it perfectly.

723
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

724
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great actor on this great actor period, but especially

725
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 2>in this this installments. Yeah, okay, now here's some trivia here.

726
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:33.840
<v Speaker 2>They're all being beamed up, right, all at once to

727
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:37.519
<v Speaker 2>the runabout. Yeah, all members are beamed up at once.

728
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.880
<v Speaker 2>In the previous episode, the Homecoming, it's stated that a

729
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:43.079
<v Speaker 2>runabout can only beam up to people at.

730
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:47.480
<v Speaker 1>A time, Right, So can I give a do you

731
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:49.880
<v Speaker 1>have an answer or can I give give my.

732
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.440
<v Speaker 2>So I have nothing other than who cares the story done?

733
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:58.679
<v Speaker 1>So what I'm thinking is you keep that some of

734
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 1>them are staying the transport a buffer while you know

735
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the kind of beam to you know, to materialize nerd

736
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:08.159
<v Speaker 1>step to the side, two more materialized step to the side.

737
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>And that part of the issue in the last episode

738
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:14.760
<v Speaker 1>was you just couldn't fit all those motherfuckers on one runabout.

739
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:18.519
<v Speaker 1>But having said that, that's not that's not actually what

740
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.280
<v Speaker 1>they said, right, they said they said you can't beam

741
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:24.760
<v Speaker 1>that many people up right. So maybe the hard drive

742
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:26.559
<v Speaker 1>of the pattern buffer is not big enough to hold

743
00:44:26.599 --> 00:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>that many people.

744
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe your fucking protective needs to be bigger to hold

745
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:32.360
<v Speaker 2>some more nerd pens.

746
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 1>The good the good news is my my my inhale

747
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:37.280
<v Speaker 1>or has re materialized?

748
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:40.280
<v Speaker 2>As did your virginity?

749
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Yes? And my virginity? Yes?

750
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna when you leave the house? Are people

751
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna slap kick me?

752
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.000
<v Speaker 4>Signs on you?

753
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:52.639
<v Speaker 2>Now?

754
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Are you having anxiety about going to gym class?

755
00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>After the sky?

756
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.039
<v Speaker 2>Do you imagine this in high school?

757
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:01.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

758
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:03.800
<v Speaker 4>My god, where a thing would be ridiculed?

759
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>You know. I try to tell my son that, like

760
00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:09.440
<v Speaker 1>they these kids don't understand what it was like. You know.

761
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 2>I had to be embarrassed to be a Star Trek fan.

762
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you didn't.

763
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.920
<v Speaker 3>You didn't speak publicly, which is funny.

764
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:21.039
<v Speaker 2>There's a sweatshirt from ninety two. I believe it was

765
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:23.480
<v Speaker 2>a white sweatshirt that my aunt got me off of QVC.

766
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 2>It had it says Star Trek below the is Star

767
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Trek in the in the TOS movie font Yeah, it

768
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:34.280
<v Speaker 2>was the Enterprise a like but that shove of the

769
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.400
<v Speaker 2>a Space doc right when they find at the end

770
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:41.119
<v Speaker 2>of Star Trek four right. It has you know, Spock,

771
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Kirk and McCoy floating heads above Star Trek Star Trek

772
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:47.599
<v Speaker 2>sandwich between the Enterprise and.

773
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:47.639
<v Speaker 4>The and the floating heads.

774
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I never wore the sweatshirt. I barely wore the

775
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:53.280
<v Speaker 2>sweatshirt because I was a friend and get made fun of.

776
00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I found it on eBay over the weekend and I

777
00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>ordered it nice.

778
00:45:58.039 --> 00:45:59.559
<v Speaker 4>I would be wearing it in public.

779
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:04.599
<v Speaker 7>Don't give a f you can finally finally wear it.

780
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Man. This is where yeah, this is where we are.

781
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>This is what David Livingston said.

782
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 4>I'm curious what thoughts he said.

783
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 1>It was like doing a movie or a mini series.

784
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:18.760
<v Speaker 1>It had a lot of gunfights and space battles. Pillar

785
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.280
<v Speaker 1>threw it all into the mix. It was big. We

786
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>knew we were going to spend a lot of money

787
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:24.920
<v Speaker 1>for the first three episodes in the second season and

788
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:27.039
<v Speaker 1>that we'd have to make it up later. But Rick

789
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and Michael just wanted to start off the season with

790
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.320
<v Speaker 1>a bang, and I think we did. Yeah. I mean

791
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:36.320
<v Speaker 1>this episode is maybe the smallest of the feeling of

792
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the three, So this one's a little bit more contained.

793
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:42.000
<v Speaker 1>But even this, like with the different sets that we've

794
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.079
<v Speaker 1>been pointing out, and I believe we're we're going to

795
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.559
<v Speaker 1>get a a matte painting shot or something now with these,

796
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>with these two, I think like even that stuff, it's

797
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:57.760
<v Speaker 1>not action necessarily, but still yeah, for the time especially

798
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:02.519
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's costly stuff, you know. So of course

799
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:04.599
<v Speaker 1>in the next one, in the episode the finale, we

800
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>get the space fighter stuff with Kira and Dax the Great.

801
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I always love that hern Ax in those little flyers, right,

802
00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:13.440
<v Speaker 2>plus the siege of the station.

803
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, and last episode we got the whole stuff where

804
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 1>they rescuely Knowledged, which was a lot of a lot

805
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:20.639
<v Speaker 1>of locations.

806
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:21.199
<v Speaker 4>Fire.

807
00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, phaser fire, look, the location stuff, which looked great.

808
00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:28.199
<v Speaker 1>Always just opened these shows up.

809
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:32.000
<v Speaker 2>And each Phaser blast back then was three to five

810
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:32.719
<v Speaker 2>grand apiece.

811
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:36.239
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. See this is the show I knew. I

812
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:38.719
<v Speaker 1>remember that there was a big shot, so I think

813
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:41.519
<v Speaker 1>that's I think that's a matte painting behind them. I

814
00:47:41.559 --> 00:47:42.639
<v Speaker 1>guess it probably has to be.

815
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Also love the lighting, the coordination with the lighting of

816
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 2>the painting.

817
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's it's excellent.

818
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:52.360
<v Speaker 4>It's like Dune esque, you know.

819
00:47:52.880 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so of course those two are working together conspiring. Yeah. Yeah,

820
00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:07.559
<v Speaker 1>Now the subtitles spelled it differently. I don't know. I

821
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:10.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know how it's spelled on if you tech check

822
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>memory alpha alpha, but memory alpha. Yeah, because even like

823
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Cisco's got the chunky card laptop.

824
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:25.519
<v Speaker 2>It is spelled c h E K O t E

825
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:30.519
<v Speaker 2>just like Okay, okay, yeah, those laptops are chunky. I

826
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:32.039
<v Speaker 2>just got a relationship to.

827
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:36.760
<v Speaker 1>No. But we see this guy again, don't we?

828
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:42.000
<v Speaker 4>Or you know what he was he was in the previous.

829
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I'm mixing him up. Also, he's just another

830
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>gray haired white guy, I guess. But he looked a

831
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.320
<v Speaker 1>little looked a little bit to me like the Captain

832
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:56.079
<v Speaker 1>of the Odyssey who will meet at the end of

833
00:48:56.360 --> 00:49:00.320
<v Speaker 1>end of season two. I think I was can using

834
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:00.800
<v Speaker 1>him with him.

835
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:02.679
<v Speaker 2>He also appeared in Star Trek the Next.

836
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Generation okay as that character.

837
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was in a Gambit Part one.

838
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, speaking of being in a writer's room for too

839
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:16.840
<v Speaker 1>many months in a row. That's how you wind up

840
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:18.679
<v Speaker 1>with Gambit part one.

841
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:21.000
<v Speaker 4>I like Gambit Part one.

842
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:25.639
<v Speaker 3>This is what Louise I'm sorry, this is what Louise

843
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Fletcher vedik Wynn said. They just asked me to play

844
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:30.840
<v Speaker 3>this outrageous part, and I thought it was this one

845
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:33.239
<v Speaker 3>time thing. Then they kept coming back and asking me

846
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.639
<v Speaker 3>to do more. As it turned out, I was available

847
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 3>most of the time. You just run over to.

848
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Paramount, put on the costume, and you try and remember

849
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the words, which is not easy. It's a lot of

850
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:45.760
<v Speaker 1>language and it's almost classical. I don't want to say Shakespearean,

851
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:49.239
<v Speaker 1>but when did have the tragic flaw of ambition and pride.

852
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>It's fun to play that. High drama villains often come

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<v Speaker 1>across as the nicest people, and that's just pure fun

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<v Speaker 1>to play.

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<v Speaker 2>A cool shot to you of Cisco, And yeah, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you not want to tune in for the next week?

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<v Speaker 1>Shit is about to hit the fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to talk about episode three. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>all for joining us for episode two. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>with the Siege. Another commentary for that that'll be coming

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<v Speaker 2>soon in the coming weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll get that one up sooner than we we will. Then.

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<v Speaker 1>We did this one.

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<v Speaker 2>More trivia with it than this installment, so get ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, as always, everyone, please email us

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<v Speaker 1>at Transporter Room three at gmail dot com or just

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<v Speaker 1>hit us up on Facebook or Twitter. Or Blue Sky,

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<v Speaker 1>or however you want to talk to us. You can

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<v Speaker 1>also get head over to the Patreon. As we said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>you can join the Patreon for free and you can

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<v Speaker 1>communicate with us there as well. But we'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your takes on these episodes, and we'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to reading some reader mail as well, so

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<v Speaker 1>please don't hesitate to do that. But yeah, Phil, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for doing this with me. It's always fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I love doing these commentaries.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're a good time, and thank you all for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Until next time, we'll see you under vid Island.