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from August sixteenth, nineteen fifty one, here is the Big Winchester.

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Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true, only

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the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're

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a detective sergeant. You're assigned to homicide detail. An elderly

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man has found dead in the living room of his

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home as a single bullet hole in his chest. On

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the surface, it appeared to the man took his own life,

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but the evidence points to the opposite.

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Speaker 3: A job investigate.

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Speaker 4: Drag Mett, the documented drama of an actual crime. For

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the next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles

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Police Department, you will travel step by step on the

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side of the law through an actual case transcribed from

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official police files, from beginning to end, and from crime

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to punishment. Drag net is the story of your police force.

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Speaker 3: In action.

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Speaker 5: Was Wednesday, January tenth. It was cold in Los Angeles.

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We're working a day.

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Speaker 6: Watch out of homicide detail.

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Speaker 5: My partner's Ben Romero, the boss of bab Brown, Chief

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of Detectives.

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Speaker 6: My name is Friday.

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Speaker 5: Was eight twenty five am when I got to the

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Police Academy the doctor's office.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, morning, and I after I'm checking in for

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my annual.

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Speaker 7: Physical Oh okay, all right, see your name Joe Friday, see.

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Speaker 8: Friday, just like the day in the week. Yeah, that's right, Friday.

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I can't seem to find it too.

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Speaker 3: Sure you were notified?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the teletype was posted in the office a couple

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of days ago.

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Speaker 6: Annual physical exams. My name was right near the top

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of the list.

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Speaker 3: Fri I d a y oh yeah, yeah, here you are,

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Joseph Friday. That's it? Yeah, well, all right, Friday, let's

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get your name down here he right, thirty four Where

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you were Central Homicide m Cerial Memory twenty two eighty

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eight I two eight okay, Friday, you want to step

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this way? All right? Step off your shoes? Your coaching trick? Okay?

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Speaker 6: Like keeping you busy?

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Speaker 3: Oh pretty busy. I have forty five hundred men in

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the department. Everyone has to have an annual physical. I

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gotta get you wait and send you along inside dock's

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probably ready for you by now over here? Oh never

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for that advances offer? Is that? Alright? Just a minute,

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it's for you, Frida of your office? Thank you? Body

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tell you this has ben Joe?

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Speaker 9: You got throw over there?

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Speaker 6: No, not quite. I haven't seen doc Vance yet.

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Speaker 3: What's the matter?

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Speaker 8: Did buddy call up by west Lake Park?

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Speaker 3: Radio?

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Speaker 8: Cars out there?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 6: No one else in homicide to handle it right now.

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Speaker 8: They're pretty busy now usually coming back to the yolks.

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Speaker 9: Why don't you make me out there?

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Speaker 3: It's nine three two old Laurel Lane.

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Speaker 6: I just really have that pad doctor, Thank you? Nine

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three two old Laurel I got it. What's the story?

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Speaker 3: Old man was found Disney's living room, put over his chairs.

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Man in the radio cars at the first to look

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like the old minute Ki himself and I'm sure enough.

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I mean thank you, Tomail.

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Speaker 6: Eight forty five am.

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Speaker 5: I left the doctor's office at the Police Academy and

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drove to the Westlake area, where I met Ben in

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front of the cottage where the dead body had been found.

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We went inside and checked with one of the men

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from the radio car who was standing by. The dead

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man was identified as Martin Latimer, aged sixty eight, a

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retired owner of a couple of neighborhood grocery stores in

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Speaker 6: He was lying sprawled on his side on the floor.

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Speaker 5: There was a bullet hole in his chest, just above

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the heart where the slug had entered the body. There

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was another larger wound in the back through the left

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shoulder blade where the bullet emerged. Approximately eight feet across

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the room from the body was another chair. There was

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a Winchester rifle wired firmly to the top, its muzzle pointing.

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Speaker 6: Directly above the spot where the body lay on the floor.

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Speaker 5: A thick white string was found wound firmly around the

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trigger of the rifle. It ran through a metal ring

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on the stock of the gun and stretched across the room.

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Speaker 6: Where it had been tied to the dead man's right

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Speaker 5: At first glanced, it seemed like an obvious suicide arrangement.

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Officer Hotness, one of the men in the radio car,

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would answered the call to the exception.

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Speaker 3: I know, sergeant, maybe I'm all wet. Just doesn't jail

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ride for me? Who discovered the body?

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Speaker 8: Harker next to our neighbor and missus Donwarth, my partner's

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Speaker 3: Now, you fellows called the crime lafe. Yeah, they're on

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their way. Uh.

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Speaker 6: Was the old man the only one who lived in

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the house here, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: What the neighbor told us. I should like to see

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what the crime lab crew is going to think of it. Well,

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what's the big question, Highness?

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Speaker 8: Well, I know it's none of my business, sergeant, you

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fellas or the detectives.

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Speaker 3: I just couldn't help. But notice, though, what's that? Well there.

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Speaker 8: Over here, this rifle wired to the back of the chair.

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I take a side along the barrel of the rifle.

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See what you think.

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Speaker 6: Right through the site huh, pointed right above the arms.

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Speaker 3: You're over there.

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Speaker 6: It's in the street lane of the body.

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Speaker 3: Uh, how much fist?

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Speaker 5: The old man pulled a string tied to his index finger,

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and it set off the trigger took the slug through

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the chest.

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Speaker 3: Really, yeah, that's what I figured. Now here, take a

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look the wall directly behind the old man.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the slug went clean through the body. We know

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that through the chest above the heart, that out through

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the shoulder blade.

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Speaker 3: See what you mean?

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Speaker 8: Oh here, Now take a look at this wall here,

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got a mark on it. M Yeah, one of the things.

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Speaker 3: Sure up. The old man was shot in that position.

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Speaker 8: The slug had to come this way, you know, pass

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through his body right about this height here.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh. We got to find a bullet on this

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wall right right around here.

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Speaker 5: It ought to be not a trace of a slug here,

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Not much chance it could have been deflecting.

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Speaker 3: You think, Well, that's what I thought. It's a thirty

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thirty Winchester enough power to go through a couple of

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plaster walls.

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Speaker 6: Well, we know the slug went through the Body's got

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to be somewhere in one of these four walls.

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Speaker 3: Take a look over here and see what you think.

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All right down here near the corner of the wall

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where well right here, Yeah, it looks like it. Man,

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something's out of killed.

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Speaker 8: The raffle will never good of throwing the slug this

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far down on the wall, not the way it's wide

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of the chair there.

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Speaker 6: Besides that, it's way out of line at least.

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Speaker 3: Four feet the way I figured here.

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Speaker 8: I know it's none of my business, Sergeant. I couldn't help,

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but notice it. Though you want me to stand by outside.

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Speaker 3: You don't care if you will?

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Speaker 6: Would you mind checking with your partner see if we can.

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Speaker 3: Have that neighbor lady brought over for questioning, would you right?

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I'll check with him now, thank you. Sure, I'm going

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to take another look at that ride.

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Speaker 6: Well, it sure doesn't add up too well, does it.

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Speaker 5: Even if the old man jerked the gun when he

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pulled the trigger with that stringer rings with the slug

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couldn't have passed through his chest out of his back and.

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Speaker 3: The hit the wall where it did stand just behind

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the body. What did Joe? If it's possible to line

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and there? All right? What about here? Look about it

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to you?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's good. Let me see. No, not a chance, Joe.

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It's way out of lining. That's the gun that killed him.

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The old man didn't pull the trigger, not from there anyway.

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Speaker 6: There's one other chance, you know, somebody pulled it for him.

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Speaker 5: Lieutenant Lee Jones arrived with his crime lab crew and

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went to work. We put in a call to the

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coroner's office, and then the dead man's neighbor, missus Elsie Donald,

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was brought over for questioning. She was a chubby, matronry

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lady about forty five. She told her she'd been a

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neighbor to the aging Martin Latimer for more than ten years.

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Speaker 3: I think that you knew mister Latimer pretty well. Man.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I suppose didn't have any relatives. Poor man all alone.

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He was in the grocery business for years. He made

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some nice money, I guess retired about eight years ago,

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sold both his stores, and then come from a mortgage

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on one of them one hundred and fifty dollars a month. Yeah,

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I was very comfortable. Wasn't that penny painter at all?

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But they were stripty it just the same way with

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my husband Court. He used to say, take care of

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the dimes and the dollars would take care of themselves.

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Speaker 5: Well, Missus Donald, can you think of any reasons why

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Latimer would want to take his own life.

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Speaker 10: Oh I suppose, And poor man's getting along in years

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a long time. Day was it's Friday. He was going

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to die with cancer?

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Speaker 3: That's so. Did missus Latimer have cancer? Do you know? Oh?

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Speaker 9: No, he kept thinking he was going to die with it.

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Could you come next door to my place while I

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get some of my laundry out?

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Speaker 6: We could talk there.

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Speaker 10: It was just across the yard.

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Speaker 3: All right, man, that'll be fine.

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Speaker 6: If you want to tell Lee Jones will be next door.

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Speaker 3: Ben is you better let Hockins know too, right uptown?

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Thank you.

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Speaker 9: About that cancer business officer. Mister Latimer was always talking

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about it, Yes, ma'am. He'd find him into a doctor

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about it. That was last week only he came back

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and he told me the doctor said for him not

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to be so silly about it.

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Speaker 10: He was a well man and good health.

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Speaker 3: What was the last time that you saw Ladimer? Man?

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Speaker 10: Day before yesterday? We laughed and joked over the bed. Then,

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poor man, he had such a nice smile. Remind me

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a good deal of cord. That was my husband.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to have your honest opinion, Miss Dono, do

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you think mister Laimer killed himself.

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Speaker 10: Well, I suppose that rifle is there? That gentleman some

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SAPs Joe.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if I could talk to you.

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Speaker 6: Man, Yeah, okay, would you like to go on ahead

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over next door.

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Speaker 3: Man, We'll be right with you. All right, off set,

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Thank you very much. We'll be right there, man. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Crime lab crews having a field day. I see if

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the old man shot himself with that regular to make

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ripples car they find anything definite, bested the rifle for fingerprints,

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didn't find a one.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 6: You know it makes less sense in that slug buried

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in the corner of the wall.

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Speaker 3: And it.

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Speaker 8: Checked the disk in the living room, found some correspondence

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like him I was having with some woman to a

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lonely hearts club.

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Speaker 6: You find any reason why I'd want to die?

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Speaker 3: Pretty good reason.

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Speaker 8: Why i'd want live. Found a photograph beautiful girl not

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to be about twenty four or five?

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Speaker 3: What about it? He was gonna marry him.

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Speaker 5: The crime lab crew continued their routine investigation of Martin

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Latimer's cottage.

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Speaker 6: They removed the thirty to thirty slug from.

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Speaker 5: The corner of one wall then and I went there

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to question the neighbor, missus Donwalth. There didn't seem to

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be any common ground at all between the evidence in

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the house and the information that she had to offer.

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Speaker 6: As we continued questioning her, missus Donwald.

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Speaker 5: Remembered that a month before Latimer had told her that

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something might happen to him and he wanted to make

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out a will.

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Speaker 6: He asked if she would witness the will.

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Speaker 5: A few days later, Latimer's lawyer came to the house

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and Missus Donwith witnessed the signing. At that time, she said,

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Latimer made the remark, I don't feel like going on

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much longer.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 5: If death means a rest, I think I deserve one.

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Missus Donworth kept busy with the laundry while we interviewed her.

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Speaker 10: Would you let me.

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Speaker 9: Get by to the man?

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Speaker 10: Sorry, I have to get some of the sign then, yes, ma'am,

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I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I'm afraid there's one thing I don't remember you telling us. Ma'am.

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Did you hear anything out of the ordinary going on

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next door this morning or last night?

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Speaker 9: No, nothing I noticed anyway, Well, did you see that

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knob on the wall sh or the one on the lift?

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I mean that's over here yeah, just lifted up and

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turned around.

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Speaker 3: Off.

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Speaker 10: Please, it says off right there in the die?

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Speaker 3: Are ye think? No?

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Speaker 9: There was nothing I heard from next year I remark

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about it.

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Speaker 5: Of course.

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Speaker 9: There's so noisy around here that time of morning you

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can't even hear yourself think anyway?

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Speaker 3: How's that? Man?

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Speaker 9: Trucks pads and buy up and down every morning. They're

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not small trucks either. They start in at six am.

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They rattle paths for two three hours sleep.

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Speaker 6: The first good explanation is in on this thing.

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Speaker 8: Could you give us the names of some of the

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other people on the street who knew mister Latham and

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pretty well miss He's done with?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I fols, I don't think any of them knew

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the poor man as well as I did.

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Speaker 10: Most of them are younger folks.

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Speaker 9: You know, parties and things when you got up around

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sixty five? Are pat that like mis Latimer? Parties don't

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mean so much anymore?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Just a nice pride home with a good heating system,

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good books on the shelf, good man the house.

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Speaker 3: Is that all you can yes, ma'am? Well, thank you

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very much.

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Speaker 8: We'll leave our card here in case you want to

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contact the Sprain Reading all right.

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Speaker 6: There's one more thing, missus Donalz.

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Speaker 5: We understand Latimer was corresponding with several women to a

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lonely hearts club.

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Speaker 6: Did you ever mention that to you? No?

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Speaker 10: He never did I find out from the male man.

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Speaker 3: He's a regular gossip. Uh huh.

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Speaker 6: And Latimer never mentioned any other women that corresponded with.

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 10: I pretended I didn't even know about it.

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Speaker 6: He never brought it up.

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Speaker 9: Don't understand why you want to meet a lady that way.

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Almost of them are looking forward as a man with

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money so they can quit work and lay around the house.

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Speaker 6: Well, thanks again, missus Donald has been very helpful.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, cool man, I wonder what made night let us

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ever stilly women's little good day to done him? You

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ro let us all over the country. Getting tired of

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working myself go to stay the postage too. I was

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right next door. Would have married him in a minute.

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Speaker 5: We left missus Donald's house a few minutes past noon

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and we went back next door to Latimer's cottage. The

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crime lab crew had finished their investigation and the deputy

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coroner arrived. He took the body downtown for autopsy. We

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talked over the crime lab findings with Lieutenant Lee Jones,

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and he felt the same way that Ben and I did.

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Speaker 6: The theory that.

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Speaker 5: Latimer had shot himself to death was possible in many respects,

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but it was far from plausible. We checked through Latimer's

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correspondence with the women that he'd contacted by mail through

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the Lonely Hearts Club, especially the young girl he obviously

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intended to marry, judging from his letters to her. Our

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picture showed her to be a brunette, dark eyes, young

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and very attractive. The inscription at the bottom read with

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Love Catherine. There was no return address on either the

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photo or the letter. Ben called a check with the

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Lonely Hearts Club.

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Speaker 8: Yes, ma'am, no, that's all right, we'll probably be dropping

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down at Coulter answered.

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Speaker 3: By what they say? It might be it Joe. Club

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secretary says they've been having trouble with somebody who signs

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her pictures just like this one was Love Catherine. I

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described a picture. The secretary says, it's the same girl.

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What's the angle?

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Speaker 8: The girl doesn't belong to the club, but somehow she

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got a list of the members and their addresses.

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Speaker 3: He writes to them.

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Speaker 8: Usually old men get them set from imagine they send

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for huh. Her letters come from the east, from different cities.

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She writes and asks for trained Fred out here. Men

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send her their money for clothes and trained fair. That's

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the last time that she's gone, Oh that a's.

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Speaker 3: Up, all right? This one letter here, this one.

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Speaker 5: I hate to ask you, dear, but if you could

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send me the traveling money and just a little extra

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for some clothes, I will take the first train and be.

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Speaker 8: With you in a week to become your wife. Awaiting

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that precious moment. And so it kind of poured it

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on thick. What's the date on there, Let's see December thirtieth,

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it's twelve days ago.

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Speaker 3: What do you think that was possible?

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Speaker 5: She could have showed up, tried to grab all the

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old man's money she could find. Maybe he caught her

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at it, she killed him, rigged up this phony, set

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up to make it look like Latimer shot himself in

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a whole more water.

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Speaker 8: If we could find out you really came here, maybe

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we better start ringing a few doorbells here.

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Speaker 3: Other neighbors might come up with something. What do you say,

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Let me see that girl's pictures, you know, m yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

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photographer's name. Now in the back here, Ben, yeah, now

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down here in the corner, in the corner of the

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picture mounting, Oh yeah yeah X six six six fly

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three must be some kind of manufacturer's marking photography supplatter.

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Guess it stands with a type of player. Uh. You

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know anything about the photo baiting? You know? I know?

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Neither do I. Let's find somebody who does huh.

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Speaker 6: Before we drove back to the office, Ben and I

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covered the rest of the neighborhood and talked to everybody.

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Speaker 5: Who knew the dead man, Martin Latimer, even remotely. They

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told us nothing that we didn't already know.

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Speaker 6: There had been no strangers seen visiting the old man.

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Speaker 5: No one had noticed anything out of the ordinary's daily routine.

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Three o'clock that afternoon, we checked with the police photo lab.

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They told us that the symbols stamped on the cardboard

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frame of the photograph signed Katherine, were symbols used by

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a photo supply company up in San Francisco. We went

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back to the office and got in touch with the

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San Francisco firm. We were told that the symbols indicated

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the style and the size of photographic mounting and further

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that this particular type of mounting was distributed only throughout

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seven Western states.

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Speaker 6: They gave us a list of eighteen photo studios in

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Los Angeles.

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Speaker 5: Who kept that particular mount in stock. It was a

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long chance, but we started checking them out. Meantime, we'd run.

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Speaker 6: The girl through R and I and gotten out an

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APB seeking information on her.

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Speaker 5: Three days later, Ben and I had checked out ten

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of the eighteen photo studios on our list.

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Speaker 6: The eleventh was the m and Y Family Portraits on Melrose.

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Speaker 8: Yes, sir, help you police officers. Would you mind taking

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a look at this photograph? Actor see Would you like

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an enlargement? Got a special price in enlargements this week.

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Speaker 6: No, sir, just like no.

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Speaker 5: If you can identify this girl, well, do you recognize

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your it?

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Speaker 3: Also? I know sure you wouldn't like an enlightenment.

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Speaker 4: You're in a Cruisi car of a metropolitan police department.

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You receive a routine radio car.

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Speaker 11: All units attention, All units pick up and hold for investigation.

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The following vehicle nineteen forty eight Ford two door Sedan,

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black whiteside wall tires.

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Speaker 2: There are many cars that fit this description.

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Speaker 6: You listen for more facts.

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Speaker 11: This car will have extensive damage to write front end

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license number nine Robert nine seven oh seven in the

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seven column nine Robert nine seven o seven KMA.

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Speaker 6: Now you can pin it down to one.

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Speaker 5: Saturday, January thirteenth, one thirty five pm. We showed the

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photograph of the girl to the proprietor of the photo

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studio on Melrose Avenue, and he identified her as one

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of his customers.

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Speaker 6: He told us her name was Doris Chambers.

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Speaker 5: She was twenty two years old and a postgraduate student

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in chemistry at the university. She came from a fairly

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well to do family and her father was the president

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of a local neighborhood bank.

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Speaker 6: She didn't even come close to the type of girl

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that we were looking for.

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Speaker 5: We got the address from the photographer, drove out to

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the home and interviewed the Chambers girl. She gave a

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younger appearance than she did in her picture. She couldn't

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recognize the handwriting on the photo, nor did she understand

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the inscription with love Catherine. After questioning her, it became

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a parent that she knew nothing at all about sixty

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eight year old Martin Latimer.

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Speaker 8: I wonder if you'd mind taking another look at the

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handwriting on a pictures familiar though, No.

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Speaker 12: No, I couldn't be sure that it way seems like

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I've seen it, though.

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Speaker 6: Well, when'd you say you had his picture?

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Speaker 3: Made? Me?

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Speaker 12: Bridd a year ago at graduation? My mother had extra

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copies made up.

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Speaker 3: She liked it.

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Speaker 12: I didn't care for it much.

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Speaker 6: Could you tell us how many people have prints.

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Speaker 3: Of this picture?

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Speaker 12: Mama had two dozen copies made up. She took twelve

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and I took twelve. She sent them to relatives. Friends

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of ours kept a few.

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Speaker 3: What'd you do with yours?

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Speaker 12: Send them to friends? Girls at school? Few my boyfriends.

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Speaker 6: Can you remember if you autographed any of them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Some of them, the ones from my girlfriends, others that

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gave up playing.

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Speaker 3: Can you try and think who you gave those? Two

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missed the unsigned picture?

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Speaker 12: One went to Carl I know that, and Ray and

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Bred and down Warren.

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Speaker 3: I think that's it. I wonder if we could have

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their full names and that addresses play.

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Speaker 12: Yes, all right, don't know what I'm saving. Always jumped

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for old letters. Could I see that picture?

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Speaker 6: Please?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I here you go.

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Speaker 12: Oh it's the same writing. I thought I'd seen it before.

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This old letter from Waurn writing doesn't it look the

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same to you?

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Speaker 6: Looks close to John when I've done my own handwriting.

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Speaker 3: Check it over.

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Speaker 6: Who's this Warren, Miss Chambers, Warren White.

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Speaker 12: Here's his address right here.

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Speaker 3: I'll copy it, jem Fine.

477
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Speaker 12: Warren and I went to college together. We were engaged

478
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to be married for a while and I broke it off.

479
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I see, Warren's a serious boy. He was very thorough

480
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with perfectionist, you know, Sergeant. He never does things halfway.

481
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That's so, never knowing Warren to do anything in his

482
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life half way, not one.

483
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Speaker 6: Well, he's going to have a perfect record of that

484
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handwriting matches. What can they do to I don't know,

485
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but they won't do it halfway.

486
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Speaker 5: Two fifty five pm we left the home of Doris

487
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Chambers and drove down Beverly Boulevard to seven forty three

488
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North Clarewood Avenue, an apartment house where the suspect was

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supposed to be living. We talked as the manager and

490
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he told us that one White had moved without giving

491
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notice three days before on January tenth, the same day

492
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sixty eight year old.

493
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Speaker 6: Martin Lattimer was found dead in his home.

494
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Speaker 5: We got on the phone talked to Doris Chambers again

495
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and she gave us a lead on one White's married sister.

496
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Seven thirty PM, we met with the sister of the

497
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murder suspect and she told us that her brother Wan

498
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had phoned that morning and asked for an emergency loan

499
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of two hundred dollars, which she didn't have to give him.

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The sister gave us White's new address and we checked

501
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it out with one of those rundown futuristic style apartment

502
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houses built in the mid thirties. Was on a narrow

503
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road high above Sunset Boulevard, overlooking most of Hollywood.

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Speaker 6: White wasn't in and the manager.

505
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Speaker 5: Said he wasn't expected back till early the next morning.

506
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We had the manager let us in White's apartment. We

507
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waited midnight, one am. No sign of the.

508
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Speaker 3: Suspect, no denying.

509
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Speaker 8: It is sure a beautiful view from here.

510
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Speaker 3: The best in town.

511
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Speaker 6: Be nice for single fellows up here when it wouldn't

512
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work with the family though.

513
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Speaker 8: How about you, Joe, Why don't you get your mother

514
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,319
looking around up here? Be a beautiful place for the

515
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two or him?

516
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Speaker 5: No, only might ever leave the house. It's been there

517
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for forty years. I guess you'll stayed until she dies.

518
00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:00,880
What would be nice after you?

519
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: Though? In whatever you m, why don't you try to

520
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,599
talking into it? You've got nothing to live.

521
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Speaker 13: I might do there once you slide up one of

522
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the windows, get a little stuff in there. H Oh,

523
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now that are that's great?

524
00:24:21,559 --> 00:24:27,799
Speaker 3: Yeah? What time they got? M one forty five? All

525
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,839
it's a long night.

526
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Speaker 5: We waited. Three am. Four am four point thirty was cold.

527
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There was still no sign of the suspect. Worn white

528
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five am, five thirty six am the sky was getting

529
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white over in the east. Six thirty seven am, seven

530
00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:54,039
thirty We kept waiting, no sign of the suspect.

531
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Speaker 6: We called the office and the range for a relief.

532
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Eight am we could hear.

533
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Speaker 5: Groups of you youngsters passing by outside, trooping into the

534
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main yard of a grammar.

535
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Speaker 6: School just below the apartment house. We kept waiting.

536
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 5: At eight fifteen am we heard a car full up

537
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,720
in front of the apartment house. Footsteps came down the driveway.

538
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Speaker 6: Up the path and stopped outside the door. We heard

539
00:25:16,519 --> 00:25:17,839
a key turn in the lock.

540
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 3: What is this? What do you want? If you want what? Yes,

541
00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:32,440
the police officer's got some questions, would like to ask you.

542
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,680
It's all right, officers, Why don't you sit down. I'm

543
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,720
not going to give you any trouble. Right, I killed him.

544
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,920
Maybe I'll never know why, but I killed him. One

545
00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:42,640
give us about it.

546
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,559
Speaker 6: Must have had a reason for it, rigging it for

547
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,240
a suicide. Do you have anything against it?

548
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:51,039
Speaker 14: I hardly even knew. You just got picture of doors

549
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,079
to food, made some good money doing it.

550
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Speaker 6: I needed you're willing to give us a statement about

551
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:55,799
the whole thing.

552
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Speaker 14: I haven't anything to hide, Officers, minute I killed him,

553
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,799
I knew all over right there, And at one minute

554
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:03,920
I knew you'd come and find me somehow. I didn't

555
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,279
know when, but you'd come and find me.

556
00:26:05,839 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: Well, okay, Ben, you better head downtown. Yeah. What it's

557
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:14,880
a great sound, isn't it. What's that? The schoolyard? The

558
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:18,680
kids got a great sound to it? Good one? You

559
00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:20,920
want to get your hat? All right?

560
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,319
Speaker 14: How can anybody figure you're starting a schoolyard like those

561
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,240
kids down there running around yelling?

562
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Speaker 6: I started the same.

563
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Speaker 3: Let me going wonder what it is?

564
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Speaker 14: It happens an eight year old red hip kid must

565
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be one down there.

566
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Speaker 3: Now.

567
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Speaker 14: The other kids will grow up, get jobs, work and die.

568
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,319
It'll be all right, Yeah, one kid will end up

569
00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:48,000
in an alley with a gun in his hand. How

570
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:51,519
can anybody figure, I don't know, a bunch of kids

571
00:26:51,599 --> 00:26:54,400
playing in the schoolyard someday one of them.

572
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:58,799
Speaker 3: Is a killing. Yeah, let's go. You tell me what's

573
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the answer.

574
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Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true, only the

575
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:12,480
names were changed to protect the innocent.

576
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Speaker 4: On April, second trial was held in Superior Court, Department

577
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eighty eight, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.

578
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In a moment the results of that trial, Warren Thomas

579
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White was tried and convicted of murder in the first degree.

580
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He received a sentence of life imprisonment. He is still

581
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serving his term in the state penitentiary. Fulsome California ladies

582
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and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: To build our strength against aggression, we've got to equip

584
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our armed forces with weapons of war and at the

585
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:50,880
same time produce plenty of civilian goods so that we

586
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,920
can keep prices down. Remember, the better we produce, the

587
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stronger we grow.

588
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Speaker 4: You have just heard Dragnet a series of authentic cases

589
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from official filets. Technical advice comes from the Office of

590
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,319
Chief of Police wh Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.

591
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Speaker 3: Stay tuned for Counterspy next over NBC.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. A bit of a nineteen fifties version of

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identity staff working here, although low tech and far more

594
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:45,400
easily traceable than its modern variant. I love that exchange

595
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,720
where she said to Joe Friday, well, what can they

596
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:51,400
do to him? And he said, I don't know, but

597
00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:54,799
they won't do it halfway. It was also kind of

598
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,839
fun to have Friday and Romero jonesy about the sus

599
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,079
Bax apartment. Yeah, they so often get stuck on these

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00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:09,039
really long waits where they're waiting around for someone. And

601
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,519
I guess if you're gonna do that, it's good to

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00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,039
do it somewhere where you get a nice view. Well,

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now we turn to listener comments and feedback, and we

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start on Spotify with a comment from Mechanic sixty six,

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who riots they had to change the penalty for kidnapping

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from death because there was no incentive to keep the

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victims alive. Well, I think there's some intuitive logic in

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that that doesn't appear to be the case, at least

609
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from a statutory perspective. The death penalty provision of the

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Federal kidnapping Statue was overturned in nineteen sixty eight in

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the court case United States versus Jackson, and the reason

612
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,359
it was overturned in that case was because the death

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penalty could only be imposed by the jury, so if

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00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,960
kidnappers had a bench trial, they had no possibility of

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being executed. What the court found in that particular case

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is that having that provision impaired the right to trial

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by jury, because essentially the defendants would have to fear

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for their lives if they went ahead and exercised their

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constitutional right in that case. Now, according to Justice Department interpretation,

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the death penalty is now available for kidnapping under the

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nineteen ninety four Crime Belt, and there are states where

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there are aggravated kidnapping statutes still. But from a practical standpoint,

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it's not done. And I think it more has to

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do with the idea that courts have taken a dim

625
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view of death penalty for cases that have not resulted

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in death. It's not, say a Supreme Court precedent that

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you couldn't do it absolutely, but there's enough potential risk

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of an appeal that prosecutors generally just don't consider it

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an option. So the death penalty has gone away for

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kidnapping as a practical matter, more as a concern about

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the way courts would rule, rather than concerns about these

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sort of perverse incentives it might create for kidnappers. Then

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we have a couple of comments over on YouTube regarding

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the Big Sophomore. Sarge seven fourteen says, thank you Adam

635
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:02,039
for the stream and Sanggraf says five star drama. Well,

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thank you so much. Appreciate you taking the time to

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comment on YouTube. Well, now it's time to thank our

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yours truly, Johnny Dollar ware.

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Speaker 4: Your husband disappeared the night before last.

651
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:55,759
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 15: What time, I'm not sure. Around that night, somebody came

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to see him, of a strange sort of man.

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Speaker 3: How do you mean strange?

655
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Speaker 15: Well, he was dressed in rough clothes, a seaman's jacket.

656
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He said he was an old friend of my husband's.

657
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Speaker 3: Did he give you his name, missus Farman, only blinker Blinker?

658
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,319
Speaker 15: Yes, he said that's what everybody called him. I guess

659
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because he kept blinking his eyes very rapidly.

660
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Speaker 2: I see.

661
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 11: Well.

662
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Speaker 15: I showed this this blinker person into the den where

663
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my husband was and left the two of them together.

664
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A few minutes later, my husband came out and told

665
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me he was going to drive Blinker downtown and find

666
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him a hotel room. So I went to bed. I

667
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,599
was tired and went right to sleep. And well, my

668
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,440
husband and I have adjoining bedrooms. When I went in

669
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to call him yesterday morning, he was gone the bed.

670
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It hadn't been slept in. I called his office, thinking

671
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:54,759
he might have decided to work late, but they hadn't

672
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:55,200
seen him.

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Speaker 3: Then you call the police, yes, missus Foreman.

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Speaker 4: Had your husband ever mentioned this man Blinker before?

675
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Speaker 15: No, I'm quite certain he hadn't.

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Speaker 3: Can you describe him well?

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then. In the meantime,

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send your comments to Box thirteen at Greatdetectives dot net,

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