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Speaker 1: I want to get in some some metrics.

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Speaker 1: What if they done well?

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Speaker 1: What is it that the people have sent the PoCA.

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Speaker 3: Really does well? What is it that BYU has really

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Speaker 3: Let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in one of

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my favorite guests. He is a man of metrics. He

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gets into the data, He delves into the data to

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give us the truth of all things in college football.

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Let's welcome at Bill Connley, the creator of sp plus

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representing ESPN. What's up, Billing, I'm doing fantastic, Happy off

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season to you.

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Speaker 1: How is the offseason treated you thus far?

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Speaker 4: Bill, Well, I've an updated rosters for sp plus projections,

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so it's really there isn't really an off season here,

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but certainly not the most demanding work in the world.

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Speaker 3: At least there's not like an additional aperture opening of

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the transferportal in April, right.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, So basically it's more work now, but then

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in May I won't really have nearly as much as

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Speaker 3: That's a good thing. You can go on vacation. To me,

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that's a good time to go on vacation.

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Speaker 5: In fact, that's where coach that's where coaches go on vacation.

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Speaker 6: I know that.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's exactly when they go on vacation.

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Speaker 3: So what can we surmise from the two thy twenty

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five I know it ended in twenty twenty six final

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College Football sp plus rankings for all one hundred and

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thirty six FBS teams.

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Speaker 1: What takeaways?

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Speaker 3: What gems can you derive from the data this year.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's possible to recruit at a top forty level

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and produce the best team in college football. I think

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that was pretty interesting. Yeah, I'm curious when it's time

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to kind of update how the projections work. I'm really curious,

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you know, having Indiana as high as they were and

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a ton of schools that aren't necessarily you know, top

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ten recruiting powerhouses, but figured out a way to build

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a really good team. I think that's really Texas Tech

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Speaker 6: Top five of US.

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Speaker 4: People are so really really interesting things. It's a fun

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time to talk about the sport. I know coaches aren't

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really enjoying themselves all that much and trying to renegotiate

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contracts every other day, but from a pure watching how

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guys are going about building rosters, it's really really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look at the top twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I think they're like they're twenty four to seven.

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techause everybody knows, you know, how much they spent on

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college high level college football players, but then they go

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to Texas Tech and they were awesome. So I think,

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about where BYU's at too. They end up eighteenth in

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the sp plus metric. Obviously eight people was pretty high.

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where some of the other metrics had them ranked overall

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from an efficiency standpoint, but a great season twelve and two.

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Speaker 1: Why use that, do you think.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think, I mean a couple of years ago

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play that's been a life hack for the best BYU

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held steady. It was twenty first in a defensive sp

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Speaker 6: School and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: But the fact that you know, the fact that they

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improved from thirty to twenty fourth with that with a

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young quarterback who they weren't asking to throw down field

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about it. And you know, where what is this season

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Speaker 5: You know, that's not a damning thing by any means.

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Speaker 3: So what you say, So you think twenty twenty four

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Speaker 6: Per spe plus?

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a team, the twenty twenty four team. I have them

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as the twelfth best BAU team and then twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: So they were both in the top twelve overall.

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Speaker 5: He's started a little ways to make up there with

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on Lavelle Edwards, but he's doing his best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: Over the last three years, which unit of the BYU

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football team has been the best unit? Would you say,

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per recipe plus offense, defense or special teams?

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Speaker 4: In terms of average rankings, it would be Special teams

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had they were eleventh two year, in twenty three they

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were fourth, and last year they fell the forty fifth.

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Speaker 6: But that's still overall.

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Speaker 5: A really nice average.

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Speaker 4: And if we're looking at three years, both the offense

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and defense were dragged down by twenty three. That was

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a pretty shaky year overall, obviously not only moving to

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through that. But then both units improved the last two years.

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twenty fourth, and like I said, the defense has been

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of interesting to see that.

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is it influenced by like elite special teams play. Would

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how what role special teams plays in that win loss column.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think my general theory has just been

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games record, if you have a good quarterback play, you

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know how to master a four minute drill, you can

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Speaker 5: That's going to be how you win close games.

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Speaker 4: And you know BYU last I checked one of quite

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Speaker 5: So maybe that theory checks out.

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they they took Oklahoma and Oklahoma States with the.

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Speaker 1: Wire at the end of the year to get Bowl eligible.

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Speaker 3: They came short, but those were two top twenty five

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Speaker 1: They fell short.

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games in these then they've lost. When it's like a

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously both of the losses from twenty five

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within one score of Oklahoma and then probably should have

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beatn Oklahoma State in that last game. You know, that

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Speaker 5: And you know twenty three and four since then.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what does BUYU need to improve upon if they

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up a few more easy points. And you know, obviously

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and BYU fans that know.

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Speaker 5: That as well as anybody, but you know, they wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: Have had to work quite as hard against Utah or

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Arizona or something like that that they've gotten or Colorado especially,

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you know, get an easy touchdown earlier in the game

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and distance yourself. That's probably the biggest opportunity.

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Speaker 3: There, Yeah, no doubt about it. What's interesting about SP plus.

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I was looking at Kirk Signetti's rankings. I don't know

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these rankings, but I had like Iowa ranked very high,

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Speaker 3: You got Iowa at nine and four as the twelve

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best team in college football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was they kind of well, and I was

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annoyed because I kind of had them as an underrated

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team this year and I thought they were primed should

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be pretty good, and then they dropped a bunch of

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close games, and so nobody really noticed how good they were,

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even though you know, they almost.

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Speaker 5: Beat they almost beat Indiana.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that was part of his rationale for it, but

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you know, dropping off by three in Iowa State, five

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to Indiana, two to Oregon. I mean that's two of

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the four semi final teams where they had the game,

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you know, to win in the last two minutes. So

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they were really, really, really good football team, but they

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just were on the wrong side of the close games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, you know, so that.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is an interesting situation, right because Indian

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ended up winning the national championship.

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Speaker 1: You look at the College Football.

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Speaker 3: Playoff Committee choices and obviously, you know, certain teams off

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of merit probably shouldn't have got in, but due to contracts,

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they did get in.

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Speaker 1: If you would have had.

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Speaker 3: Your your brothers, what should have the top twelve been

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if it was based off of sp plus, what would

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have been the top twelve teams to get into the

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COLF Football Playoff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think first of all, Miami and

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Notre Dame get in if i'm because one of the

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things I was doing late in the season was just

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you know, I was I lost complete faith in the

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committee once you realized they were doing there, you know,

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the way they were playing the head to head game,

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where you know, Notre Dames and over Miami unless there

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as long as byus separating them, and if BYU's not there,

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then suddenly Miami is better than Notre Dame. But they

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weren't before, and all the different ways, and the fact

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that Oklahoma had to be ahead of Alabama because they're

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better than Alabama in one game even though they had

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a bunch of turnovers in that game, they weren't actually

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better in that game either. I just I kind of

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lost faith entirely in that system. And I was just

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playing with pure spplus resume SP plus FPI and strinth

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the record and just went with a full computer system

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there to see what it would come up with. And

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it had both Notre Dame and Miami, and it had

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Alabama just out had Oklahoma out by quite a bit. So,

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so it was a weird year in terms of judging

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the SEC because in terms of average sp plus writing

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and they're still but comfortably the best conference. They had,

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their worst team was better than seven Big ten teams.

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Big ten team was extremely vertical, where the SEC was

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kind of horizontal in all the teams being really close together.

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But you know, the strongest conference or not. Oklahoma shouldn't

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have been there and Alabama probably shouldn't have been there either,

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and they just tied themselves in knots and I just

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hated it. I hated the way that all played out.

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And you know, as it turned out, Alabama it could

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only beat Oklahoma and they got crushed by a real team.

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So you know, it is what it is, I guess,

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but I kind of lost. The committee lost me this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how far out was How far away was BYU

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from getting in?

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Speaker 4: They were close, I mean obviously they would have been.

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I think they were first team out before the Big

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twelve championship and then I don't remember, Alabama was probably

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still ahead of them when both teams fell. But yeah,

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they were right on the border for obvious reasons. I mean,

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they only they'd only lost to a top four team

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and beating everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unfortunate.

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Speaker 3: That would have been nice not to play Texas Tech

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and the regular season, going to the Big twelve championship

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undefeated and then lose, even if it was in convincing fashion.

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Maybe you get in then with only one loss. So

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give me your ideal scenario, right if you had, if

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you were a power broker of college football, what's the

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right number of teams to having a playoff? And should

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we get away from only a subjective committee and ad

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an algorithm to balance out the human corruptible eye test

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nature of the current committee.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, first of all, like I've never had

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a problem with sixteen, I've assumed we'd be at sixteen

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by now. But also I've come to really like twelve.

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That's a really high bar still, and lots of games

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you know, ended up making a huge difference.

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Speaker 5: Obviously for how to Dame.

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Speaker 4: The first two games made all the difference, but I

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think that kept the bar really high, and obviously Miami

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barely squeaking in and it almost went in. The whole

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thing I think was good for the system as a whole.

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So if we stay at twelve for a long time,

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I'm I'm totally good with it. But I've you know,

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first time I haven't wrote about the playoff. I think

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it was for Football outsiders in like two thousand and eight,

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and I said, I was advocated for sixteen, So I'm

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not going to complain if we get that too. I

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the twenty four and the multiple auto beds and all that,

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you can you can miss me with all that, we

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haven't even, man, we haven't. We have a twenty fourteen playoff.

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That's the way things are are shaped up right now.

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Speaker 5: It'll end in March.

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Speaker 4: We haven't even mastered twelve yet, so we don't need

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to think anything past four rounds just yet. But I'm

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fine with twelve or sixteen. And like I said, I

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mean my joke, and late in the season it was

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a pretty bitter joke. But this is the committee was

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no longer. This was the year it became official that

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the Committee does not rank twenty five teams. Crafts an

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archiesonally hand crafted list of teams for the playoffs, and

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they don't just rank one to twenty five.

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Speaker 5: And if the humans can't do it, I just want

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computers to do.

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Speaker 4: I just want to one through twenty five and then

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we'll figure out who made the playoff after those teams

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are ranked, and instead they were just twisting themselves in

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nots and I hated it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good with a Sweet sixteen, if you will.

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And if that Sweet sixteen would have been effectuated this year,

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who would have been in that thirteen fourteen to fifteen

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kind of sixteen slots? And do you think any of

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those teams could have maybe made a run in the

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CFP if you looked at kind of the potential seedings.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think if they were sixteen with my computer.

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Speaker 4: Thing that I was doing, BAU and Alabama are definitely in.

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for sure the last pot was It might have been

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I had been, Oklahoma might have been.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think Utah Maybe I'm trying to remember for sure,

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but yeah, I mean, and again at that point, we

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you get to the you know, Utah having lost to

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buy U n Tech and all that, but the Utah

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was a really good football team. I think any of

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those b y U and Utah both had the line

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play that could have been necessary to win at least

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a game or two. You know, they didn't have a

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Malachai Tony necessarily like Miami did. But the line play

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is what got Miami pretty far down that road.

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Speaker 6: And I think by U and Utah were both extremely physical.

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Speaker 4: That's why those three teams stood out in the Big

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twelve as a whole this year. Those are the three

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teams that could really really play in the trenches. And

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you know, we'll see, we'll see if anybody can change that.

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I've been updating rosters. I love, you know, Oklahoma State

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basically importing North Texas's offense. That's gonna be great. Kansas State.

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I think I love the moves Kansas State made on defense.

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But the top three were the top three, and obviously

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Morgan scot he's got a high bar to clear, but

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they might clear it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely intriguing this next year. Do you have

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a way too early win loss prediction for BYU football

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as you've been aggregating the roster talent and what they

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bring in and what they return.

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Speaker 4: I don't have updated rankings yet, but I can tell

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you that based on I have this year's schedule, based

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on last year's rating, that.

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Speaker 6: Would be right around nine wins for BYU.

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Speaker 5: So we'll see. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure they're going to rank relatively high in

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returning production if I had to bet.

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Speaker 5: I'm not seeing really any.

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Speaker 4: Major major holes that suddenly have to be filled, so

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maybe it ends up being higher than that.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I think I'm thinking.

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Speaker 4: My guess is that they'll probably start the year second

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in the conference, just like the finished the year.

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Speaker 3: I guess, Well, that's interesting because I think that would

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that would be maybe the most optimistic win loss or

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win projection from SP plus.

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Speaker 1: I want to say in the last five years, right that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying to I'm trying to. Yeah, I'm trying

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to remember.

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Speaker 4: I remember in twenty after they kind of they lost

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a bunch of guys but were still really good. In

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twenty one they were I think gus P plus was

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super high on them heading into twenty two, and they

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fell off, so that I should go back and look

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at what the projections were.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were high, you were, Yeah, you're right going

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into twenty twenty two with all the returning production and

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the talent. There's a lot of NFL talent on that squad,

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and with the strength of schedule in front of them,

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they did they fell short in twenty twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: I'd agree with that. I think you had them pretty high.

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I think they would probably be pretty close to each other.

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Speaker 5: It was kind of chasing.

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Speaker 4: It was chasing BYU around for a couple of years.

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The I thought they'd fall off in twenty one.

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Speaker 6: They really didn't.

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Speaker 4: Thought they'd be great in twenty two, and they weren't. So,

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but I think we're back on track now these last

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couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had lost.

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Speaker 3: They lost a Notre Dame that year at a neutral

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site in Vegas. They lost to Arkansas at home. Probably

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shouldn't have lost that game. They lost to Liberty on

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the road. They lost to East Carolina as well at home.

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They fell short. There's no doubt about it. The only

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loss that I felt like they really probably should have

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took it on the on the lipswither was that Oregon

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team at Oregon. All the other ones were all winnable games.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that was then. I mean they're still grated out.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they got worse than twenty three, but then, yeah,

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like we were saying, they rallied late and then they've

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been good ever since.

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Speaker 1: Yep, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: Bill Conley here the creator of sp plus representing ESPN

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dot Com, talking from college football here on your Utah

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ESPN Radio network. So, Bill, the Big Twelve as a conference,

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how do you see it comparative to the SEC, the

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Big Ten, and the ACC Right now? Are they on

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the on the bottom rung here? Comparatively speaking from a

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talent from a productivity standpoint, Well.

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Speaker 4: I think, I mean they were called in terms of

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average ratings, they were closer to the Big Ten than

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or they were just about as close to the Big

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ten ats there where the ACCHC stunk. You know, obviously

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obviously Miami peaked late and that ended up flecting well

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on a lot of teams. Yeah, but the bottom of

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the just as I was saying about the Big Ten,

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the bottom of the AEC was really really poor, and

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so you're just going to get an extra easy game

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in that conference compared to everybody else's.

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Speaker 5: And the Big Ten was or the Big Twelve? Excuse me?

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Speaker 4: Was I mean that there were you know, Colorado wasn't

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very good. There were a couple of pretty poor teams.

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But you just think about in the last two to

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three years, almost everybody's been good to quite good at

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least once, and that's a pretty impressive thing. Can't necessarily

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say that about the about the ACC. So obviously there's

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a gap between the top two, but between the top

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two and the next two, I should say. But I mean,

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right now, I think in terms of consistent quality, Big

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twelve is still comfortably ahead of the a SEC.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: How far away are they from the SEC right now?

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I see it seems like they may be falling from grace.

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Speaker 1: All of that equity that was.

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Speaker 3: Built through uh you know, paying players under the table

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and uh, those those car dealerships in rural areas, you know,

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fitting the bill.

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Speaker 1: It seems like that's possibly coming to an end.

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Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I think, you know, in terms

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of average rating, the SEC is still the comfortably Their

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average espupulsrating was thirteen point one.

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Speaker 5: That was forty points.

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Speaker 4: Ahead of the Big Ten because again, you know, they

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had won. Their worst team was sixty seven, and the

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Big Ten had seven teams worse than that.

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Speaker 5: So that's the plus.

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Speaker 4: You know, in like fifty percent of this year of

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this past season's games were decided by one touchdown in

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the SEC, so that's I mean, it's extremely competitive it's

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very high quality, but as you're suggesting, not really a

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guaranteed top five team right now. And the SEC is

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the one who insisted that conferences should be judged by

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who won the national titles, so they are falling by

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their own standard in that regard, even if the average

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quality is still really good.

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Speaker 3: My guy, Bill Conley, Ladies and gentlemen love talking ball

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with you is always a pleasure of blessing and for

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all those that are listen, the best way to support

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you what you do, how you do it?

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Speaker 1: Bill?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm still I can't say I've been.

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Speaker 4: I've been, you know, nosing spreadsheets here lately, so I'm

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not posting much.

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Speaker 5: But go to go to you know, ESPN underscore Bill

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C at Twitter. You'll find out what I'm posting.

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Speaker 6: Uh, and we'll have.

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Speaker 4: It'll take me a while to get through this, but

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once we get through all the roster updates, we'll have

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a ton of content March most likely.

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Speaker 3: I love it, MANH yeah, yeah, what else? Uh? You know,

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because you do you do any mail bag things? Were like, uh,

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fans are able to send you messages DMS or anything

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like that.

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Speaker 1: What have been what have people been asking you? About recently.

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Speaker 4: I should do an AMA at some point on on

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social No it is, I mean right now, I think

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everybody's just waiting, you know, like, do you have any updates?

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So when I'm returning, production is going to come out.

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That's kind of the most common question. But no, that's

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that's pretty much. You know, I have, you know, the

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normal kind of train of content here coming up right now.

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Everybody everybody was distracted by the NFL. Everybody's distracted by

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Olympics now, so you know, socials are pretty quiet.

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Speaker 3: Love it man, Well, appreciate you Bill as always loved

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and ball with your thanks ropping on.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely take care Bill Conley.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: A great segment, and I always appreciate Bill Conley's time

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Speaker 3: Darren Peterson uh and who could be the first overall

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NBA draft pick in this next year's NBA draft. We're

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gonna delve into the Big Twelve as a conference as well.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna see something you've never experienced, never seen before.

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My gosh darn guarantee of that, you saw something that

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not many people get to see, aj De Bons almost

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going off for a forty burger.

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Speaker 1: What happened last night in wacop Man.

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Speaker 7: What a special performance from the freshman. And you know,

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I know for BYU fans out there, it seems like

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you guys have been grown accustomed to seeing that. But

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you know, it's just so such a special talent for him.

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And I've got a chance to watch him obviously on TV,

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but sings mean person and seeing his physicality, his athleticism,

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his length, and his just overall talent was just a

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sight to see. And from early on at that game

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in Waco against Baylor, and as I mentioned, you know

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kind of before I'm talking to some other people, this

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was a game that you guys know, by you desperately needed.

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It was a four game slot that they were on.

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They were going in the wrong direction, and obviously, right now,

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as we're getting into February and into March, you want

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to be playing your best basketball, and overall BYU just

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simply had not been doing that. And they had an

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opportunity on the road against another desperate team like the

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Baylor Bears, and they were led by as you Debas

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who had thirty six. The Bears had no answer for him.

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And then robis the third in his return. Now, let

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me tell you, every single time you touched the ball,

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Foods rained down. From the moment they introduced him, he

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was the clear building in the arena and he and

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Ajdabossas certainly showed up and showed out, helping to lead

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BYU to a victory, a great win for the BYU couters.

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Speaker 3: Well, what stands out to you about AJ's a skill set,

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his playmaking ability, you know, his body type, what's stood

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out to you about Aj when you got eyes.

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Speaker 7: On you Know what's funny is I feel like as

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we get through this draft process and there's so many

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great prospects across you know, the country, it's easy to

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nitpick on certain people, right, and it's easy to nickpick

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on aj de Bonson. I've heard some different things, but

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one thing that is not lost on me is the

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fact that this guy is eighteen nineteen years old and

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he is able to get to his spots will and

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particularly at the collegiate level, if you put a guard

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on him, he's gonna shoot right over you. And talking

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to Kelvin Sampson. Matter of fact, before Houston played BYU,

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he said that the top four Frenchman he's coached against

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was like Jason Kidd and Carmel Anthony and a couple

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of other people, And he said aj Debosser reminds him

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of Tamarlo Anthony. And we saw some of that even yesterday,

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where he's just able to rise over smaller guards to

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shoot over you, and then if you put a big

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on him, he's just gonn to low right by you,

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uses athleticism and get to the rim, and we see

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how he's able to tear the rim down as well.

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So seeing that up close in person, you just see

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how much he's a mismatched problem. Kevin Young certainly was

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hunting that out yes Sday against the Baylor Bears, and

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then aj De Bonson he came through and delivered and

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just overall too his ability to get to his spots,

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just be able to live in the paint. To me,

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once he gets two feet in the paint and turns

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over that shoulder and he gets it up, it feels

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like a layup and you're at and if you're opposing defense,

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you're at the mercy of aj Debance and once again,

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that's such a rare skill set to have at such

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a young age.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think goes first overall in this next

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year's NBA draft? There was NBA scouts that were polled,

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twelve of them I think there's twenty total, but twelve

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of them picked Darren Peterson.

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Speaker 1: This is a couple of weeks ago. Eight of them

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picked aj Debonce.

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Speaker 3: Where do you think, who do you think is going

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to go first overall?

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Speaker 7: If I was to guess, I still think it'll be

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Darren Peterson. I know that a lot of people have

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been disappointed in the way that Dan Peterson has Singley

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has just sat out in a number of games, especially

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in some games where his team is frankly any of them.

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But at the end of the day, I think scouts

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know that when he gets to the next level at

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the NBA level, that you know, the talent obviously speaks

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for itself. We saw that when Kannas played YU and

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Darren Peterson was sensational. I don't know how how much

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that scouta actually worried about that because they know, like

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you know, ultimately all these guys, for the most part,

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these freshmen are won and done, and so their goal

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was to get to the NBA level. But you know,

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with that being said, if you look what what AJ

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Debosa has been able to do over the past, you know,

714
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,480
really the entire season, he's leading the country in scoring.

715
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:23,319
And one thing you can't teach. You can't teach the size.

716
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,839
You can't teach the athleticism. That's something that he certainly

717
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,640
does have over Darren Peterson. But you know, as I

718
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,160
mentioned DP, that the talent is certainly there, and so

719
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,359
I would not be surprised if still as of today,

720
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,960
Darren Pearson goes number one overall, But if this trend continues,

721
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:40,160
I wouldn't be surprised either if it shifts a different

722
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,400
direction and AJ Deboston bounces back to number one overall.

723
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,119
Speaker 1: Who would you pick? And why?

724
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 7: You know, it's funny if you asked me this last week,

725
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,680
I would have said Darren Pearson. But after giving a

726
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,200
chance to see AJ Debonsa in person and then seeing

727
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:58,799
kind of what continues to off forward with DP, I

728
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,359
like the competitiveness of of AJ to Boston once again

729
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,400
that leads to athleticism that you can't teach. As of today,

730
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:06,839
I'm going back to AJ to Boston, especially after seeing

731
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,279
him this week, someonely lean AJ as of today.

732
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because you got to know him a

733
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,440
little bit too, like personality wise and and look, recency

734
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:18,279
biases real.

735
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: We all know that.

736
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,119
Speaker 3: But you know I've always said like I would, I

737
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,640
would take a J first because I know he's going

738
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,559
to do the lonely work. I know he's gonna he's

739
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:28,640
going to continue to get better.

740
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:29,319
Speaker 5: Uh.

741
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:31,279
Speaker 1: He distributes the ball actually really well.

742
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: He's a great teammate. If you want to win championships,

743
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,519
you need a great team. You can just be a

744
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:39,240
one man scoring show, and he elevates others.

745
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

746
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:42,839
Speaker 3: I feel like uh, in a world of ego driven

747
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:49,200
narcissism and me first mentality, Aj uh Man, he's a great.

748
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,799
Speaker 7: Teammate, absolutely a great teammate. And that's something that that

749
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:54,279
I got a chance to kind of even pick up

750
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:57,440
yesterday at the at the Baylor game. And it was

751
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,720
interesting that once again we know that AJ is one

752
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,920
and and he made sure to shout out like Rob Wright.

753
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,599
He wanted to get him going early in his return

754
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,599
back to his old stomping grounds at Baylor. And when

755
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,640
when when Rob Wright made a shot, AJ was his

756
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,920
biggest cheerleader and the guy simply loved AJ. That the

757
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:18,480
energy is certainly inspectious that he brings that team each

758
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:21,160
and every night along with his talent. With that being said,

759
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,200
when I look at like a pair of DP Daran

760
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,279
Pearson to AJ to Bonsa, I will say that I

761
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:29,599
do feel like Darrin Pearson's buckets come a little bit

762
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,759
easier than Bosa at times. He's able to do it

763
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,799
on ball off ball is he's a better catch a shooter,

764
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:38,119
but he's better at catch a shoot than idiot Bosa

765
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,079
his percentages and on top of that, you cant to

766
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:42,079
see him, you know, working on some cork cups and

767
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:43,880
he lets the game kind of cuts him a little

768
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,920
bit easier. One thing that I will say, if you

769
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,119
want a nick tack on AJ, sometimes the ball can

770
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,160
stick with him versus Darren Pearson. He's able to kind

771
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,519
of get off of it a little bit more. What's

772
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,599
cam going back to that on ball off ball that

773
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,680
he's able to do as a as a combo guard.

774
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,759
But at the same time, when the ball is in

775
00:33:58,799 --> 00:34:00,559
AJ's hands at the end the day, most of the

776
00:34:00,559 --> 00:34:02,519
time the bugles in the hole. And that's the point

777
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:04,559
of this of why you know, you played the game

778
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:07,400
with basketball, so with you wanna be nitpicky. That's the

779
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:09,280
kind of the difference that I would say between the two.

780
00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:10,920
But both of them when they are all in the

781
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,800
flour they compete, and we saw that, you know when

782
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,440
d Yu played played Kansas and frankly, Derek Pierson went

783
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,400
at AJ Debonsa and obviously he got the better of

784
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,480
him in that game, and so did the team. But

785
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,119
what you know, you can't go wrong with either ones

786
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,920
of those talents.

787
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:31,039
Speaker 3: We got Chancellor Johnson Big Twelve, ANELUS Big Twelve insider

788
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:35,480
talking some college basketball here on your Utah ESPN Radio Network.

789
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: Chancellor the Big Twelve.

790
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: You get to see these guys up close and personal,

791
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,000
very talented. There's great great players for Houston, great player

792
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:50,400
for Texas Tech, b YU, obviously Kansas. You're watching it all.

793
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,239
How would you describe the Big twelve right now? And

794
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,559
what stands out to you about the product being played?

795
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,599
Speaker 7: An absolute monster. That's how we described it every day.

796
00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:00,840
If you better, you better put your your big play,

797
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,880
your big boy pants on, because you know you're going

798
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,639
to be in for a rod And the thing is

799
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:07,480
obviously the big twelve is pretty top heavy when you

800
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,760
look at some of the top teams, starting with Arizona,

801
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,519
the team that's been the best team in the country

802
00:35:11,679 --> 00:35:15,679
all season long, even in their loss this week on

803
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,400
the road to Kansas. But you know, Kansas, they're starting

804
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,960
to play some of their best basketball right now, as

805
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,679
we've been able to see Houston still right there now

806
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,159
there's still the champ back to back at that here

807
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:27,480
in the Big twelve, Texas Tech they have the best

808
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:30,119
pool in the country and J. C. Toppen and Christian Anderson.

809
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,079
I don't want to forget Io State either, who got

810
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:34,119
off to the best start in program of history at

811
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:36,840
sixteen or zero. They lost yesterday to TCU, but come

812
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,079
March they're still teen to be to be wrecking with.

813
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,800
They have Joshua Jefferson who is on pace to be

814
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,119
an All American. I don't want to forget anybody, but

815
00:35:44,159 --> 00:35:45,719
like once again, he can go on and on. And

816
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,880
then of course b Yu that you know, any given

817
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,599
night that are really most Knights agi to Boston is

818
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:52,320
going to be the best player on the floor. And

819
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,159
so it's highly competitive and even A J. Debosa Coons

820
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:57,199
joked about it yesterday that you know, he's not really

821
00:35:57,199 --> 00:35:59,159
he's never really lost four games before. But that's just

822
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:01,119
kind of the nature oh the Big Twelve. It's so

823
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:03,519
hard to win here. And even the teamy Baylor at

824
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:05,719
the end of they beat they have two players that

825
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,159
are poticted to be NBA guys and two day Yesipool

826
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:10,159
who had a big night with thirty seven points and

827
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,199
Cameron Carr who poured in twenty five plus points himself.

828
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,360
But you know, they're struggling in the season, and that's

829
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,119
just once again the nature of how the Big Twelve

830
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,519
is this season.

831
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 3: Pretty crazy to see just how deep this conference really is.

832
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,639
And even watching Baylor, I think Baylor's been playing some

833
00:36:27,679 --> 00:36:29,480
of their best ball over the last four weeks. They

834
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,599
almost knocked out knocked off Iowa State, and they were

835
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:34,840
right there with BYU. They had two wins before that

836
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,000
there were you know, ten plus point margin victory, So

837
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,039
you never know what can happen on the back end.

838
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:43,960
If you're looking at BYU right now and looking at

839
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,039
where they're trending. Obviously they lost four in a row.

840
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,599
They got to win versus Baylor. You're looking at the schedule.

841
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,239
Hopefully they can finish above five hundred and Big twelve play.

842
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,320
What that of seeding do you think BYU will get?

843
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, right now, I think they're probably floating around the

844
00:36:59,199 --> 00:37:01,679
six seven, And that's not trying to be make it

845
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,280
making one of the you know, the popular jokes, right

846
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,639
the viral chokes of sixth seventh. But I think they're

847
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:09,320
floating around there. They certainly need to shrink some someones

848
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,719
together because if you're you know, a b YU fan,

849
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,599
what you don't want to do is or what you

850
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,400
want to do is try to earn one of those

851
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,159
early buys. Come to the Big twelve tournament. You get you,

852
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,079
get you some, get you some rests, and get some

853
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,519
get your legs underneath you to hopefully make a run

854
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:25,840
and compete for a Big twelve tournament title. Because right now,

855
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:28,639
with as many losses as BYU has, I don't think

856
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:32,079
that Arizona Houston Kansas now has the over the head

857
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:34,320
to head over BYU is going to drop that low.

858
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:39,400
So BYU is out of the conference regular season title race,

859
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:42,199
but there's still so much more to be played, so

860
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,679
much more to play for. That's the thing that even

861
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,599
if you don't win the Big Twelve, you still are

862
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:48,719
certainly in the running to go to the final four

863
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,199
and potentially be a national champion. As I mentioned, you

864
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:56,960
look at Arizona, Texas Tech, Houston, b YU, Kansas, and

865
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,199
I'm missing another team as well. I hate that six

866
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,840
teams that they.

867
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,119
Speaker 1: Have a real state did you mention, yes, yeah.

868
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 7: Iowa State as well. There are teams that have wild

869
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:08,760
him the chance of making a very very long run

870
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,320
in the in the tournament. And so if i'm if

871
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,079
I'm the BYU Cougar's right now, my focus is how

872
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:16,599
could we get around to playing our best basketball. So

873
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:20,199
that way, let's you know, the calendar turns from February

874
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,920
to March, we are now playing.

875
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: That Chancellor, Let's talk a little bit about the supporting

876
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,599
cast for b Yu Hadeem Whoop looked looked pretty good

877
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:35,000
on the defensive end. He's a little bit limited offensively.

878
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,480
We we know about the big three, right AJ, Rob

879
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:41,960
and Ritchie. If you were to put maybe a you know,

880
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,639
a prognostication out there of whoo, who's actually going to

881
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,320
be the supporting cast, Which players are gonna end up

882
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:52,039
helping BYU not only get to the tournament, but make

883
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:53,480
a run in the NCAA tournament.

884
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:54,519
Speaker 1: Who do you think it is and why?

885
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,679
Speaker 7: I think it's just led by the trio there Canard Davis.

886
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,719
He's together some nice games here lately. He had twelve

887
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,599
points last night. But once again, I think it starts

888
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:09,000
with you know your trio Rob right the third as

889
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,440
you de Bonsa and Richie Saunders. And Richie didn't shoot

890
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,480
the ball very well yesterday, but he still ended up

891
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,639
with fifteen points. He went six or fourteen from deep,

892
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,039
actually missed some open jumpers. But you know, what's the

893
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,920
tournament time. I don't know if there's gonna be an

894
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,199
unlikely hero from BYU. If I'm being honest with you,

895
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,480
I think in order to get to where the crews

896
00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:27,559
want to go, and that's Indianapolis up the final four,

897
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:29,880
those three are will have to have to carry the torch.

898
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,119
Speaker 6: Now.

899
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 7: Once again, Conar Davis has played some perimeter defense. He's

900
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:37,239
usually checking the best perimeter player for the opposing team.

901
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,440
As I mentioned, he poured in twelve points. He didn't

902
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,320
shoot the ball well from deep, but you know, if

903
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,400
you can get some more shots to go from the outside,

904
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,840
I think that will certainly help. But you know, come

905
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,079
once you get to the sweet sixteen, if BYU is

906
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:50,800
fortunate to get there. It's going to be in the back.

907
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,400
It's going to be on the back of those three Chancellor.

908
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,679
Speaker 3: Best way to support you what you do, how you

909
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,920
do it for all of our listeners.

910
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, on Chancellor TV on Twitter and Instagram, and

911
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,559
I'm even on TikTok the for the kids out there

912
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:08,880
as well. So I do film breakdowns, story times and

913
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,960
well some behind the scenes access access and and even

914
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,639
some exclusive interviews like I had yesterday with aj Debonsa.

915
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,639
He was great with this time. You had some fun

916
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,599
with that, and uh yeah, certainly on social media at

917
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:20,679
Chancellor TV.

918
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: Anything you got cooking now you can tease us with.

919
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,039
Speaker 7: I'm always working. I'm always working. I have some some

920
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,400
some more film breakdowns coming. I'm actually doing some some

921
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,039
more on aj de bons I just put out some

922
00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:34,440
some content with him yesterday and I actually even kind

923
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,639
of go and get a little bit more in depth

924
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:38,239
about a first time seeing in person. But once again

925
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,159
you can see all that almost social pages. And then

926
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:42,280
I appreciate certainly hell the support I've been able to get,

927
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,679
even covering BYU during the football season, the fans there great.

928
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,599
As I mentioned, I'm trying to get out to get

929
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:50,360
out there to probo and and and now i'm'll hold

930
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,119
you to that. That rull be Tuesday deal as well,

931
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,440
so we'll certainly.

932
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:53,639
Speaker 5: Have to do that.

933
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,199
Speaker 3: We'll see and you here short. They let us know

934
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,559
when you show up. We'll get you hooked up. Chancellor Johnson,

935
00:40:58,639 --> 00:40:59,559
Ladies and gentlemen, thanks so.

936
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,039
Speaker 7: Much, thanks your tom Man. Thank you.

937
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: There you go.

938
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Speaker 1: Press and Rex the one.

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Speaker 3: The next man up get to be playing running back

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for the Cougars like you did this last season. I

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hope he can make some hay and make an impact.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it.

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Speaker 3: Preston Rex discussing uh, the legacy of the Rex family

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at Brigham.

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Speaker 9: When you grow up surfing, you know, you kind of

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take on the mentality of of of a surfer, you know.

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And that's something that Coach Hill before he you know,

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took the other job, he would explain to this like, hey,

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just be a surfer. You know, when a surfer catches

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the wave, you know, he experiences the peak and the

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lows and the crashes. But the wave isn't beautiful because

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you wrote it, or it lasts forever. It's it's it's

1010
00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:35,559
awesome because it happened. Man, you get to do that

1011
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:38,280
over and over again. So that's something that you know,

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00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,639
just growing up. It's it's been instilled with me, you know,

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00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,840
with with my dad and Isaac. Just to enjoy the moment.

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I think just being where your feet are, you know,

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it makes you grateful for everything, the ups and downs,

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because you know that that clash between the two is

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it is really just a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be highs and lows. It's gonna be under la,

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this is gonna be waves. You gotta right at the

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wave when it comes on and experience the lows as

1021
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well in the crashes, and wait for that big wave.

1022
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Sometimes the patients many times can pay off. But not

1023
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,559
all of us have has patients. We don't have patience.

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Sometimes being where our feet at, being where the board

1025
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is at in that wave can be a difficult thing,

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a difficult task, and you hope Preston can be patient.

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He got some opportunities this year Press and Rex did

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at running back. Remember in fall camp we saw him

1029
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running with the twos. The six foot hundred, nine to

1030
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five pounds running back Redshier Junior this season out of

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San Colementa California, Sant Colnicia High School. He's been a

1032
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defensive back for BYU in yours past. He was moved

1033
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to running the running back room and.

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Speaker 1: Got some opportunities, but lo and behold a little bit of.

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Speaker 3: Soft tissue and adversity reared their ugly heads. A soft

1036
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,880
tissue in your hamstring issues. It derailed them a bit

1037
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from us seeing early playing time and finally who worked

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00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,480
his way back into the lineup finally got some opportunities,

1039
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but it was short lived.

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Speaker 1: Short lived.

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00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: He was more of maybe a scat back out of

1042
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the backfield. Catching the ball of the backfield didn't find

1043
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Dansers necessarily a groove. But hopefully this offseason he can

1044
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get bigger, faster, stronger and compete for that RB two spot.

1045
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:21,480
Devon Ekka has shown well per reports. Logan Pain has

1046
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also looked good per reports. Press and Rex.

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Speaker 1: Can can make some hay.

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00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 3: In my opinion, he's a he's a diverse skill set

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00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,400
running back. I think he's got a high football IQ

1050
00:46:33,639 --> 00:46:36,920
obviously comes from a great football family, and I can't

1051
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,519
wait to see what he can do in springball.

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Speaker 1: Now's at the time, now's the place.

1053
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Speaker 3: He's got a ball out and make some build some

1054
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trust with him and the offensive coaching staff in order

1055
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:50,719
to see more PT in twenty twenty six. But right now,

1056
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,800
the running back room, there's a there's a competition for

1057
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RB two. Who's your favorite to win that RB two spot?

1058
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,280
Ronald the three man Weaver.

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00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is tough, right, I mean there's a bunch

1060
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,599
of guys in that room. Obviously, people are gonna pick

1061
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,519
the favorite in people are gonna pick you know, Devon Ekka.

1062
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But look, I bought stock in Press and Rex, and

1063
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I'm gonna stay there. I really think when you get

1064
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:16,920
hit with Injrew's being, you know how it is, it

1065
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,880
just derails the confidence. He derails everything, and you don't

1066
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:22,760
in the season. You got to keep things moving. Things

1067
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,239
are high paced. You don't have a time to really

1068
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,440
fully recover the way you want. We saw Cody EPs,

1069
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,800
you know, on his Instagram story constantly was in that

1070
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,719
room trying to get back. Sometimes you need a fall

1071
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,119
off season to get healthy. So I'm still gonna say

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it's Preston Rex. I think guys in the in the

1073
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running back room to have a year. I like what

1074
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I see from everybody. But when you've played already in

1075
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the system, when you're an athlete and when you've played

1076
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offense already in high school, I think it's easy. And

1077
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when people have raved about you. Look, he was playing

1078
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until he got hurt. He was out there. So that's

1079
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the guy. I'm still gonna bet on. I like pressing

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00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,119
Rex's chances at RB two and he's gonna continue to

1081
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:56,159
ride that way be until he gets that opportunity.

1082
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh man, it's a difficult Uh, it's a

1083
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,239
difficult question.

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00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,159
Speaker 1: Vic.

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00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,599
Speaker 3: Where do you say, Vick Craham our data aggregation specialists,

1086
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,239
newsletter specialist? Who's your favorite? Is it Joe Vesa de Mooney?

1087
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,880
Is it Logan Pain? Is it Showing Moa? Is it

1088
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,280
Preston Rex? Is it Devon Ekka? Who do you got

1089
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:17,840
and why?

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00:48:18,039 --> 00:48:21,079
Speaker 10: Well, I'm going to speak this into existence and say

1091
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:24,360
that is going to come back and be healthy for

1092
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,639
a whole year, that you know, but if you you know,

1093
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,320
if that doesn't happen, I'm just so excited about Eka.

1094
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,679
You know, I love what coach Steve Clemens has said

1095
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:42,599
about him and and how he works there at Lehigh,

1096
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:46,000
and then of course you know what he's doing now

1097
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:49,719
at BYU. So it's It's always good to see a

1098
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,960
kid work, you know. So I'm just going to speak

1099
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,199
that into existence, UH and say is going to have

1100
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,920
a solid year with no injury.

1101
00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:04,079
Speaker 1: I would love to see it. It just hasn't happened

1102
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:05,239
in the two years, right.

1103
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 3: I like, I like the speaking into existence. We need

1104
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,039
more of that. You know who does that really well?

1105
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,320
Kilani Sittaki. He's just speak it into an existent type

1106
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:15,639
of guy.

1107
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: Lucky for now.

1108
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 3: His UH is also on the Charles Miska Charlie Miiska

1109
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:23,880
also on that list. And you never know what can

1110
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,440
happen in the offseason. Maybe there's a few other players

1111
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,440
that UH that will be added into the mix. I

1112
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,920
think right now the favorite is is shiing it? Right,

1113
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:37,800
It definitely is UH. I wouldn't sleep on Logan Pain,

1114
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,119
I really would, I think. I mean, I've heard reports.

1115
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:42,199
He's got great top end speed. He's thick, he's strong,

1116
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,880
he's fast. And remember in high school, I do take

1117
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,440
into account what they did in high school, Okay, what

1118
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,199
they produced, how consistent they were. Their best ability should

1119
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:57,920
be their availability. And if you look at UH at

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productivity in.

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00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: High school, it's like, Okay.

1122
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:04,559
Speaker 3: Who were the most productive football players in high school

1123
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:08,880
that played running back in in this uh in this

1124
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:14,519
running back room. Right, Logan Payn was a in twenty

1125
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twenty one, so it's been a minute. Remember, served his

1126
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mission and came back. He had one hundred ninety one

1127
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,239
carries for oney three hundred and ninety yards and sixteen

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touchdowns to lead the six A high schools right and rushing.

1129
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Speaker 1: Okay, he was. He was putting up some numbers.

1130
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: He's five ten and he's two fifteen to two twenty,

1131
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,280
so he's.

1132
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Speaker 1: Pretty thick, you know.

1133
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 3: I like my personal my personal preference is to have

1134
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:44,599
those five foot ten, five foot nine, two hundred and

1135
00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:46,039
twenty pound running backs.

1136
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Speaker 1: I love them.

1137
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:49,039
Speaker 3: I think they stayed low to the the they have

1138
00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:51,760
a low center of gravity. They fight through arm arm

1139
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,840
tackles and caught through contact. They hide behind those six

1140
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,920
foot five, six and six offensive linemen. If they're scatty,

1141
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,719
if they have a little bit of wiggle to them,

1142
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:04,239
they do those jump jump stop jump hops type of

1143
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,960
cutback type of movements. And so I've been I've been

1144
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:14,920
intrigued by Logan pain for a long time, and I believe.

1145
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, I'm trying to think of.

1146
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:21,639
Speaker 3: What his his his total rushing yards were as well

1147
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,719
in his high school career. I'll pull that that stat

1148
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,320
up here momentarily, but really really good football player in

1149
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,480
total two thousand rushing yards in his his career. His

1150
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,400
junior year, he he only played in one game, so

1151
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,159
he got a little bit dinged up, but probably would

1152
00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:42,679
have been a three thousand yard rusher. Davon Ekka also

1153
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,239
three thousand twitter seventy six total rushing yards over his

1154
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,400
high school career. So if I'm gonna pick two guys

1155
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,000
right now, I may just pick one of those two guys,

1156
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,159
and you may be saying, well, what about what was

1157
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:57,360
his productivity like in high school?

1158
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: And he was.

1159
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: He was also productive, really good football player in high school.

1160
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,079
He ran for I want to say it was two

1161
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,960
and forty four yards, so definitely highly productive. He had

1162
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,199
a one four and twenty three yard rushing effort his

1163
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,280
senior year. So all three of them on pace right

1164
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,519
to be I think an RB two type of guy.

1165
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:21,039
Speaker 1: Those are my three favorites right now, let's go to break.

1166
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 3: That was a fantastic segment with Preston Rex Preston. Don't

1167
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,159
sleep on Preston though he's got an uphill battle, but

1168
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,400
he can do it. He's got a great pass catching

1169
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,360
ability out of the backfield and could be the most

1170
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,760
maybe versatile running back out of that crew. That segment

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was a great one and we'll get a go to break.

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But don't go anywhere, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

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00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,679
the field to play if you're an offensive or defensive lineman.

1178
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: Get braced up.

1179
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,159
Speaker 3: Those knees, those ankles, those risks, those elbows compression were

1180
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:04,039
on biomechanical supports that are low profile, functional and aid

1181
00:53:04,519 --> 00:53:09,119
in your performance as a football player in the trench

1182
00:53:09,159 --> 00:53:12,800
warfare game, offensive a defensive lineman. Let's prevent injuries so

1183
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,239
we don't have to spend thousands after the injury prevented.

1184
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,639
A medicine is always the best medicine. Let orthropros of

1185
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Utah help you out with that eight oh one