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Speaker 1: The millionaire Pedophiles death at Manhattan's Metropolitan Correctional Center on

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August tenth last year, was officially ruled as a suicide

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by hanging, despite murder conspiracy theories circulating widely online. Look again,

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I am more than willing to accept that this dude

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killed himself. But let's see the receipts. Why was the

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crime scene and that's what it is according to the jail.

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When someone dies in jail, a crime scene. Why was

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it the crime scene preserved? Where are all of the

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where's the video of the crime scene? Why were no

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body cams on? Why? Why? Why? And why? So until

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all of these questions are answered, people have a legitimate

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reason and a legitimate right to dig a little bit

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deeper to try and get to what really happened here. Nobody,

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certainly nobody on this podcast is just scratching the surface.

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We're doing deep dives. I'm talking Marianna Trench deep dive

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type shit. And so far, the official narrative does not

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pass the sniff test, But in interviews with Epstein's former

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inmates obtained by the Daily News, they reveal it was

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common knowledge in the prison that he was suicidal and

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cellmates warned him not to kill himself in their presence.

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First of all, why is Jeffrey Epstein around cellmates? Why

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does he? I mean, why does he have cell mates?

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Why is he around other inmates? Why isn't he absolutely safeguarded?

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Would you put el Chapo around other inmates? Hell? No,

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for their own safety and for his. With Epstein, it's

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mainly for his safety, right. I'm sure Epstein isn't throwing

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hands with a leader of the Latin Kings. I'm sure

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Jeffrey Epstein isn't picking up the phone and calling somebody

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who's gonna green light somebody else on the main line

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because he has that kind of reach. El Choppel, on

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the other hand, yeah, that shit might and no doubt

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about it. When I say Epstein shouldn't be around other inmates,

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that's because I didn't want him to get hurt. I

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wanted him to stand trial just like all of you.

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I wanted him to sit there across from his accusers

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and get stared down by them as they recounted what occurred,

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how he abused them, the different levels of pain it

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caused them. That's what I wanted, and the government failed.

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So even if Epstein did say. He ll say Epstein

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did kill himself, and the official narrative is true, did

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he really kill himself because the government was so damn negligent,

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how can you not toss a little bit of the

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responsibility on them no matter what at this point, So

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any way you chop it, the official narrative smells like

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doo doo. One prison inmate claimed that Epstein was saying

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he was going to kill himself because the government is

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trying to kill him anyway. Now, remember who we're dealing

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with here, Jeffrey Epstein very shrewd. We have lawyers who

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came out and said that he was not suicidal. Douglas

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Showan has said that, a couple of his other lawyers

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have said that, and Shuliac has said the same exact thing.

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Now we have inmates on the other side disputing that fact,

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saying Jeffrey Epstein was suicidal in fact. So I guess

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it basically comes down to folks, who do you believe more,

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Who is a more reliable source these inmates that were

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in there with Jeffrey Epstein, some of these lawyers and

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other people here was talking to, or are none of

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them reliable? And we're just never going to get to

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the bottom of what happened in that jail cell. Former

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inmates also revealed he was also subject to threats and

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extortion from fellow prisoners, and mistreatment from prison guards who

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made him sleep on the floor. Now that's bunk ass

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shit right there, and any prison guard engaging in demeaning

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behavior of an inmate should face severe, severe penalties. In

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my opinion, these aren't zoo animals, all right, these are

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human beings. They might be they might be criminals, and

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they might be the worst of society, but I mean,

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come on, when you do that kind of shit, all

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you do is open up a door for them to

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have an appeal and to maybe get out of jail.

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So here's an idea. Be a professional, do your job,

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get your paycheck, go home, work your twenty five years

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and collect your pension. Sources claimed he paid around four

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thousand dollars to inmates for contraband cell phones, though some

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were never provided. And that's definitely one of the licks

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in prison. Right, you're a mark, you're a square, you're

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a punk, you're a joke. Well, these inmates, yeah, we'll

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get you some contraband, homie. What's up it's gonna cost you,

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however much money. Let me get that dough though. I'm

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gonna need that up front. My people on the outside

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need that dodo right here. Bro, that's you know, the deal.

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And then Epstein pays the money. But on the flip side,

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he never ever, ever even receives the phone in some cases.

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And what can he do about it? Was he gonna

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go to the screws, He's gonna talk to the guards. Yeah, right,

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he's trying to buy contraband is he going to go

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to the people that already already boned him here? No,

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of course not so a regular prisoner, their only recourse

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is to go to a shot caller in the yard

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and try and get help that way. And I'm sure

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with enough money, Epstein could have done the same exact thing, right,

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because money talks. And if you think the Aryan Brotherhood

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or any of these other groups within the prison walls Blackhand,

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you think these guys aren't going to take, you know,

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fifteen twenty thousand dollars from Epstein to protect him every month,

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You're wrong. They most certainly will. It is a vicious

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game of politics within the prison walls. Folks. There is

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no doubt about that. It is Game of Thrones on

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steroids in those yards. They also claim that inmates would

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slide notes under his door saying we're going to kill you,

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you rapist, you pedophile, while others offered him security for

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a fee. And there you go. There's no doubt that

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security was offered. Now again, they could have just been

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screwing with him too. Offer the security, take the money,

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and then let him get stuck. Very possible. But it's

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also possible that if he was paying up on time

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every month that a group like the Aryan Brotherhood would

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most certainly provide him protection. If it's going to fat

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their pockets, if it's going to help them buy more

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heroin or fentanyl or whatever the hell they're sneaking into

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the jail to sell. Hell, yeah, they're going to be

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on board with that, because you see, folks, it is

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a doggyat dog world. There is no doubt about it,

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especially within the walls of a prison, and the fact

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that he was getting those notes slipped under the door,

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and shit, oh yeah, that would have been the rest

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of his life. Zero, there's no doubt about it. He

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would have had to go to the shoe, He would

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have to be in the protected yard with the other

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chomos and pedophiles and rapists and all of that, and

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that would have been the rest of his life because

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he could not have been on the main line you

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see right here. And how any of this is possible

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is beyond me anyway, honestly, because he shouldn't he shouldn't

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have had access to these other prisoners. But the government,

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in their negligent state, seemed to just have a hands

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off approach with Jeffrey Epstein, almost like they didn't care

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if he was harmed, almost like they kind of wanted it. Huh.

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Epstein sixty six, first arrived at the prison after his

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arrest on July sixth, twenty nineteen, while awaiting trial on

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sex trafficking charges. He was moved to the special housing

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unit four days later, which separated him from the rest

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of the inmates. There. Exactly, he has to be in

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He has to be in the shoe, no doubt about it.

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So once he was in the shoe, that should have

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ended all of the other bullshit, the extortion, the notes,

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blah blah blah. So how many of those notes could

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have possibly come in the first few days, how much

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of that happened in the first few days. I don't

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know your guess is as good as mine, but Epstein

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should have always been in the shoe from the very

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first day. The government should have understood who they were

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dealing with. His cellmate during that time was Nick Tartaglia,

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a former police officer facing the death penalty on charges

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of killing four men in a botched drug deal. So again,

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ask yourselves, why in the hell would Jeffrey Epstein be

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selled up? And is celli b a man who is

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waiting a death penalty charges for killing four men already?

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This dude has no hope right He's already on the

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cuff for four deaths. Why would you put a murderer

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in with Jeffrey effing Epstein after you already put him

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in the shoe. It does not make any sense whatsoever.

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Can anyone give me a logical explanation for why this

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would occur and why they wouldn't put him in a

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jail cell with someone like that dude Bill Mercy from

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the very beginning, or a jailhouse snitch, hoping that he'd

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rat himself out, But instead you put him in there

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with this muscle bound Paisano Guido Gorilla, who has more

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steroids juiced into him. It looks like then rich Piana,

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And you mean to tell me this is a quality move,

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this is a good idea, this is a logical step. Well,

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I disagree wholeheartedly. Nicholas Tartaglioni had no business being in

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a jail cell with a guy like Jeffrey Epstein. One

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prison inmate claimed he overheard Tartaglioni Warren Epstein not to

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kill himself while he was in the room, saying, listen,

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don't do that shit in here, do it on your own.

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So an inmate claims he heard Tartaglioni saying that. But

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remember the camera wasn't facing the jail cell. There's no documentation.

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Maybe Tartaglioni was joking his ass out and saying that

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while he was choking him out. The lay is alibi.

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Remember this is an ex cop. This isn't a stupid man,

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right this, Nicholas Tartaglioni. You would think he's a pretty

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intelligent guy for the most part. You know, shrewd, I

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should say, street smart enough to come up with a

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plan like this. And maybe he was sent there to

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send a message maybe he was sent there to send

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a message to Epstein, telling Epstein, look, if you don't

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clip yourself, where gonna get you. That's speculation on my part,

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but again, nobody can answer why Tartaglioni would be in

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a damn jail cell with Jeffrey flipping Epstein. However, on

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July twenty third, Epstein first attempted to take his own

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life by hanging himself using a strip of bedsheet. Allegedly,

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his cellmate Tartaglioni claims that he alerted prison officers and

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possibly saved Epstein's life, which is not disputed by prosecutors,

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and later told fellow prisoners that Epstein told him he

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was going to give him two million dollars in his

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will to thank him. Oh yeah, sure. Or that two

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million was so he didn't kill you in that JEO cell.

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Maybe that's the case. Is that bay off money? Maybe? Again,

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I don't know, speculation on my part, but we have

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to take into account who we're dealing with here, and

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I don't mean Epstein. I'm talking about an ex cop

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who is on the cuff for four murder charges and

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a drug deal gone bad. This is the guy that's

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gonna tell Epstein, hey, don't kill yourself, buddy, I don't

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want you to die in here with me. This is

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a compassionate man. This is a man who's going around

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doing God's work. I mean, I guess maybe maybe everybody

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is a great character after all. So maybe he is

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this altruistic man who wanted Epstein to live a long,

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hearty life. Somehow I doubt it though. However, Tartaglioni's lawyer

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said he would be stunned beyond all imagination if it

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were true that his client was included in the millionaire's will.

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You mean the pedophiles will. And I hope he's not

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included in the will, by the way, because that's just

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more money that is not going to the girls that

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were abused. Epstein was put on suicide watch and moved

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to a cell with Efrin. Stone reyis the last inmate

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to share a cell with the sex offender. Oh that's

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nice a guy named stone reyis huh again, Hopefully this

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dude wasn't a murderer. Though, maybe this guy was just

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like a blue collar criminal or some shit. You you

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would think that's who they would put him in with, right,

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His memories of sharing a cell with Epstein, were retold

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by his niece, Angelique Lopez, after Efrin stone Reyes passed

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away in his mother's apartment on November twenty seventh. All Right,

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so right here, I'm skeptical right away. This is a

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story of telephone. It was told to the niece by

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the uncle, mister Stone Reyes, who shared a cell with

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Jeffrey Epstein. So take it with a grain of salt.

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Like everything else, right, we can only vet what we

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can vet, and then we can only you know, believe

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what we believe. And for me, I'm just here to

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provide this information for you folks, and then you folks

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believe what you want to believe. Right me, personally, I

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don't really uh take stuff like this too credible when

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it's second third hand. Now it might at you might

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be credible, right, but you'll need other sources to verify

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and back it up. So again, grain of salt. Time

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he said he was a good cell mate who read

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a lot and kept to himself. However, according to reyus

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niece's account, her uncle said he was very depressed and

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mentioned that he didn't want to live anymore. Ray's niece

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told the news that her uncle told him, don't do

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any of this while I'm in the room, so I

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could see that, right if you're if you you are

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in the jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein and you're this dude, Reyes,

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the last thing you need in your life, especially if

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you're getting ready to get out, like obviously Rayes was,

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the last thing you need is a high profile inmate

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like Epstein killing himself in the jail cell and all

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of the eyes turning towards you as a potential suspect

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or as the potential killer. So I get that. I'd

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be the same way. I'd be like, look, dude, you

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are not killing yourself in this jail cell. If you

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think you're going to kill yourself in this jail cell,

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you have another thing coming. The screws would come around

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and I'd have him tied up to the bars with

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his shirt and shit before I let him kill himself,

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because I got enough problems, right, especially if I'm sitting

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in a jail cell. Reyes also claimed that staff were

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treating Epstein like crap, making him sleep on the floor.

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After his death, a note was found that Epstein's cell

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saying that a correctional officer sent them burnt food, and

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that giant bugs were crawling over his hands. Again, not

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a good look, right for the mcc or the prison

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system in general. Now you're going to, oh, you're gonna

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have some bugs, this is New York City. But if

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it's to the point where they're crawling all over people's

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hands and shit like that, that's unacceptable in my opinion,

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and it's unneeded. We don't need to have a gel

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that's infested with bugs. Let's get it cleaned up, let's

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get it fixed. Epstein hanged himself using ripped bed sheets

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less than twenty four hours after Reys was transferred to

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another detention center in Queens, New York for cooperating witnesses. Ah,

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there you go. Reyes was a snitch. This is what

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they should have been doing from the very jump with Epstein.

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Put him in with a snitch, somebody who has some

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life to look forward to on the outside, somebody that

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could try and work them for some information. But instead

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you put him in with Nicholas tartag Leoni. See the

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stark difference here, right, folks. And my only question is why.

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When he was released from prison in April, o Reyes

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expressed doubts that Epstein could have hanged himself from the

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frame of the bunk bed as it wasn't tall enough,

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saying that it didn't make sense. However, he said he

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couldn't be sure, as sometimes people are fighting something we

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know nothing about. I agree about him not being able

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to hang himself from that bed. It just does not

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it doesn't look like it is something that's feasible to me.

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Am I a pathologist? Am you know somebody who knows

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about hanging or a phiciation or anything like that. No,

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totally not. But from what I've read and from my

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position over here in the peanut gallery, it seems like

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it would be damn hard to hang yourself in that situation.

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In a statement, Epstein's lawyer, Read Weingarten said, if your

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information is correct, it is horrifying that such conditions are

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generally tolerated in a federal prison within the shadows of

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the federal courthouse, the US Attorney's Office, and the FBI.

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I happen to agree with this idiot unfortunately about that.

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I don't want again. I want these prisons to be

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uh not tip top. It's not it's not the you know,

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the four seasons, but they should be clean. They should

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be livable. Nobody should be sleeping on the floor, and

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certainly there should be no infestations of bugs. Besides that,

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you know you'll never hear me talking about Oh I

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think they need more TV time. Nope. I think that

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your behavior should decide what sort of perks you get

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while you're a prisoner. If you make an effort to rehabilitate,

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you should get more. If you want to be a

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scuzzbag your whole life and stay in prison and do

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your gang banging and your drug dealing and your extortion,

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well hey have at it. You're not gonna get any

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extra privileges. I mean, there won't be any like bugs

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anymore if I was in charge. But as far as

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extra privileges, forget about it. Those have to be earned

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in prison. And I think we should move more towards

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a system where people actually have a shot to rehabilitate. Again,

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not people like Epstein. I'm talking about overall people who

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got in trouble for drugs and shit like that. What

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would be even worse would be a federal law enforcement

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was specifically aware of the threats and extortions and did

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nothing to protect Epstein, but rather fought tooth and nail

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against any bell conditions so as to keep him in

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these conditions. When the government keeps an inmate in their custody,

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they are on the hook for protecting them, and I

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don't think the government went far enough protecting Epstein. It

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certainly looks like they've learned their lesson the second time

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around with Maxwell. But with Epstein, no matter if he

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killed himself, if he was allowed to kill himself, or

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if somebody else did the deed, the fact of the

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matter is there was a huge failure on the end

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of the Bureau of Prisons, the Department of Justice, and

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the whole system as a whole. No inmate as high

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profile as Jeffrey Epstein should ever be in a jail

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cell with Nicholas Tartaglioni. Jeffrey Epstein should have been in

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a jail cell with somebody like this, mister Reyes or

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mister Mercy. Instead, the government was negligent in their duties,

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and Jeffrey Epstein died in their custody. Whether it be

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suicide or murder, the fact remains that Jeffrey Epstein was

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in the custody of the United States government, and the

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United States government failed the survivors failed society and failed

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in their duties to keep one of the most high

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profile inmates safe to face the justice that he so deserved.

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It's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.

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In today's episode, we're going to hear from a woman

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named Judith Miller, who served time at the MCC and

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was also a inmate in the federal prison system, and

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she has a few opinions about Jeffrey Epstein's alleged suicide

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and what went down in that jail cell. This article

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is from I on the News, and like I said,

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the author is Judith Miller. It was originally posted on

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August eleventh of two thousand and nineteen. Here are a

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few things I know firsthand about being in jail. First

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and foremost, you have virtually no control over your life

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and surroundings. You can't get so much as an aspirin

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without authorization in most jails. You can't wear a belt

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or shoelaces, or keep a razor in your cell. You

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have no privacy, no sense of dignity, and no rights.

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In a well run jail, high profile prisoners have virtually

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no chance of killing themselves. That is a fact when

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a jail is run efficiently and a facility is run

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with care, and people take the time in positions of

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power to make sure they're doing the right thing, inmates

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shouldn't be killing themselves. And even at the MCC with

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it being such a damn dump, it wasn't like this

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was a big problem there, like a whole bunch of

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people were killing themselves on a regular basis and it

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was causing all kinds of you know, grief in the system.

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That's not what was occurring. So to pitch Jeffrey Epstein's

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alleged suicide as just, you know, a shrug of the

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shoulders and well it was expected is ridiculous to me.

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So the alleged suicide of Jeffrey Epstein, the sixty six

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year old pedophile with powerful American and foreign friends who

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was about to stand trial for allegedly sexually abusing dozens

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of girls, many of them underage, is particularly unfathomable and outrageous.

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In a letter to the Justice Department, Republican Senator Ben

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Sass of Nebraska called it inexcusable that Epstein did not

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live to face his accusers. For all of Ben Sass's

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jawing and all of his yip yappin. I haven't seen

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him do one single thing about bringing a commission together

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here to listen to what happened. Can we get a

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full account about what happened with Jeffrey Epstein, please, And

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let's not act like it was just, you know, a

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regular old trafficking ring. This as a man who was

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connected to the most powerful people in the world, and

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all of that needs to be exposed. Obviously, heads must roll,

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he wrote. Attorney General William Barr clearly agrees, saying that

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he was appalled to have learned that Epstein was found

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dead at six thirty am on Saturday morning at the

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Metropolitan Correctional Center MCC in Lower Manhattan. Barr instructed the

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department's Inspector General to investigate precisely how Epstein died at MCC,

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a long troubled pre trial detention facility. So all of

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the talk right, heads are going to roll. People are

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gonna be held accountable. Nobody has been held accountable. And

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even the lowly guard to quote unquote foe of sleep

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while they were watching Epstein ended up getting off scott free.

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So you didn't even get low hanging fruit here. They're

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basically telling you to go get eft as the public,

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You're never going to get any information, and if you

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ask about what happened here, we're gonna have our lap

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dogs over at NPR call you a conspiracy theorist. Basically

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what's going on and the fact that anyone would believe

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Bill Barr is just beyond me. I remember having this

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conversation with conservative friends when Bill Barr was brought on

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board by Donald Trump, and people saying how great he was,

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how he's been around forever, like that's a good thing,

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and how he's part of, you know, the fabric of

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the justice system, as if that's a good thing. Again,

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I equate it to one of those retread coaches in

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the NFL Awade Phillips type. You keep bringing this guy

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in expecting different results, and then when shit goes south, well,

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who do you have to blame but yourself. Epstein was

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placed on suicide watch on July twenty third after being

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found semi conscious in his cell with Marx on his neck,

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in what prison officials described at the time as a

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felt suicide attempt. He was removed from suicide watch six

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days later on July twenty ninth, and returned to the

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segregated area of the prison with extra security, known as

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the Special Housing Unit. Why Epstein was removed from suicide

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watch is a focus of the DOJ investigation. It's crazy, okay,

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that's a focus of the investigation, But not the fact

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that he was in the cell when the alleged suicide

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happened or attempt happened with Nicholas Tartaglioni. That's not something

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you want to investigate. How old, big muscle ape girla

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guy got into the jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein. We're

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just going to ignore that fact. And that's why for

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the last few days we've been hammering home the point

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that nobody has answered the question of why Epstein was

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in the cell with Tartaglioni in the first place. While

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officials from the Department's Bureau of Prisons, which supervises the

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MCC and other federal prisons, have said little about Epstein's

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death other than to claim that Epstein hanged himself, officials

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told me Sunday that the prison psychological team had evaluated

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Epstein on a daily basis after his alleged initial suicide

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attempt and had found him to be no risk to

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himself or to others. And you see, these are the

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little facts that we've seem to overlook in the legacy

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media and with their official narrative. At no point did

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Epstein seems suicidal to anybody that was around him, psychologists,

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his lawyers, or the people that were visiting him on

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a regular basis. So it's kind of a big stretch

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to say to me, well, the guy's obviously suicidal. He

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tried to kill himself the first time, when there's no

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proof that that even occurred. So what you're asking me

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to do is believe the official narrative. And I have

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a hard time believing people that are unbelievable. So whatever

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other people want to do, that's fine. I'm not telling

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anyone else how they should think or what they should

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think about what went down here. I'm just pointing out

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that the official narrative has as many holes in it

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as a thing of Swiss chief. But it's a big

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conspiracy theory to even point that out. Officials said that

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Epstein had met for many hours each day with his

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legal team, and that both he and his lawyers had

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repeatedly assured the prison that he did not want to

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kill himself and that asked mcc to remove him from

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the suicide Watch now to play devil's advocate. That could

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have easily been a scheme by him saying, hey, look,

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I'm not suicidal, I don't have any desire to kill myself,

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when he really does, and he was doing this all

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as a ruse so that he'd be off of suicide Watch.

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It's plausible. It is possible, but unless there are some

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evidence that proves that, I'm not going to just bite

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on what the officials are telling us. The prison has

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yet to comment on whether prison officials believe that the

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initial July twenty third incident that landed Epstein on the

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suicide Watch was in fact a genuine attempt to end

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his life. I do not think it was. Honestly, at

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this point, I am convinced that it was Nicholas Tartaglioni

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who roughed them up. I truly believe that, finally official said.

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At least one member of Epstein's legal team was with

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him until six thirty pm on the Friday evening before

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his death. None of his legal team, Reed Wingarten, mart Weinberg,

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Michael Miller, or Mark Furnitch would comment about their client's

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emotional and mental state the night before his death and

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during the last six days of his incarceration. Now it's

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come out after the fact that none of these people

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thought that Jeffrey Epstein was suicidal. Nobody that he was

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talking to. Officials said that under the prison's rules and procedures,

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Epstein was supposed to be given a cellmate and monitored

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by prison guards every thirty minutes twenty four hours a

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day after being removed from suicide watch. So he had

474
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no cell mate and nobody was monitoring him. Nobody can

475
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:06,240
and checked on him. So is it the perfect storm

476
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,400
or was this all set up for Jeffrey Epstein to

477
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,400
do what he did? And that's something we have to

478
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,440
keep in mind too, you know, we're all of the

479
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,799
factors put into place so that Epstein could take care

480
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:24,319
of himself. Tartaglioni sent in there to send a message. Again,

481
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:27,039
this is all speculation, just like what everybody else is

482
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:29,279
talking about. By the way, nobody knows what went on

483
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:32,160
in that cell. Anybody who tells you with a surety

484
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,000
that they do while they're lying to you. But for me,

485
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:39,640
very easily it could have been Tartaglioni sent to that cell,

486
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,519
sends Jeffrey Epstein a message by choking his ass and

487
00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:45,039
tells him, look, I'm going to kill you. Someone else

488
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:47,440
is going to kill you if you don't kill yourself.

489
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:51,599
That is very possible. That is a scenario that could

490
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:53,920
have played out, and frankly, I think is one of

491
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,200
the more likelier scenarios to have played out. But the

492
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fact is we do not know. Prison experts believe that

493
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,799
having a cell mat helps deter suicide. Neither officials nor

494
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:10,799
Epstein's legal team would comment on whether those procedures were followed,

495
00:31:11,079 --> 00:31:13,880
but at least one official familiar with the episode said

496
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,519
that they were not. None of them were followed. None

497
00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:20,079
of the regulations in prison or the steps required when

498
00:31:20,119 --> 00:31:24,039
something happens when someone dies were followed. The jail cell

499
00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:26,640
wasn't treated as a crime scene. There was no body

500
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,440
camera footage of them going into the jail cell. All

501
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,519
of it was a disaster. Now. I know people out

502
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:34,960
there they'll say, oh, it's just a systemic error. You know,

503
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,480
everything's just broken. Well, if that is the take that

504
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:40,720
you have on it, then are you just okay with

505
00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:43,480
it staying the way it is? Because nothing has been

506
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,960
done to fix it. So if you're not going crazy

507
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,559
that it's broken, then you must be okay that it

508
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:54,680
is the way it is. Epstein had a cell mate

509
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,920
before his initial alleged suicide attempt, but cellmate Nicholas tar Tagleone,

510
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,480
a former police BAE officer facing murder charges, was not

511
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,400
returned to share a cell with him after Epstein was

512
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,039
placed on watch and then removed from the list, one

513
00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:11,279
official said. That official said that Epstein was alone in

514
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:14,519
his cell for some time before his death, again in

515
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,559
violation of the prison's rules. They don't even talk about

516
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:20,960
Tartaglioni rough and Epstein up here. That is exactly what

517
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,039
Epstein said. Remember Nicholas Tartaglioni rough me up if he

518
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,880
wanted to, you know, the suicide watch situation, why would

519
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,319
he say that. So again, it just doesn't make sense,

520
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,400
and there are so many holes in the official narrative

521
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:41,240
that questions have to be asked. If confirmed. Such disclosures

522
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:43,960
about what appear to be failures in Epstein's detention at

523
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:48,279
MCC can only intensify questions and suspicions about his death.

524
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,559
This facility is known for being deeply troubled. One official said,

525
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,880
though Others cautioned that the DOJ and the prison's own

526
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,559
investigations were in its initial stages, and that facts could

527
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,960
change as the inquiry progressed, or they could get stashed

528
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,920
if it's something that the DOJ doesn't like, something that's

529
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,039
going to embarrass the DOJ. Imagine if the people of

530
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:12,960
America had the ability to audit the DOJ the way

531
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,799
that IRS can audit you boy, oh boy, That would

532
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:22,000
change things, wouldn't it. My own relatively small brush with

533
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:26,599
America's justice system was profoundly different from Epstein's. Unlike him,

534
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,960
I was jailed voluntarily. Then a journalist with The New

535
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:33,440
York Times. I chose to spend three months at Alexandria

536
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:37,240
Detention Center near Washington in two thousand and five rather

537
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:41,440
than identify my sources to an over zealous prosecutor pursuing

538
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,319
the leaking of classified information. So they'll go after journalists, right,

539
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,119
no problem, But they have a big problem going after

540
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,200
their friends in the banking system. Tells you everything you

541
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,200
need to know. Epstein, having escaped real incarceration for years

542
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,440
since his first conviction in Florida in two thousand on

543
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,519
state charges of solicitation of prostitution from a minor, had

544
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:08,760
no choice but jail. After his initial conviction in Florida. However,

545
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:11,840
he broke her a much criticized deal that enabled him

546
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,159
to avoid federal charges and spend only thirteen months behind bars.

547
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,360
Even then, he was permitted to leave jail to work

548
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,519
at his office for up to twelve hours a day,

549
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,239
six days a week, while he was still abusing people.

550
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,880
By the way, according to all reports and all accounts,

551
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,559
he was still abusing people. And why did the officer

552
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:33,079
in Palm Beach that was assigned to him destroy a

553
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:35,760
bunch of records. I don't want to digress too far here,

554
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:41,360
but come on, man. Epstein was charged with new federal

555
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,800
crimes on July sixth, after he returned from overseas and

556
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,960
was arrested at Teterborough Airport. Federal District Court Judge Richard

557
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,239
Berman deemed him a flight risk given his vast wealth,

558
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,480
many residences, and high powered social connections, amongst them President

559
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,119
Donald Trump, former President Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew of Britain,

560
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,400
and Leslie H. Wexner, the retail billionaire and an item bell.

561
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,199
Epstein was sent to await trial at MCC and he

562
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,559
should have been Let's not make pretend he shouldn't have

563
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:16,360
been there. That's exactly where he should have been, waiting

564
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,880
for trial, where it was up to the do nothing

565
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,360
prison guards and the shitty administration to make sure that

566
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,159
this man faced justice, and that didn't happen, and still

567
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:33,199
no consequences for the people involved. Unlike ADC, a Virginia

568
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,280
state run jail, MCC is one of two federal pre

569
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,320
trial facilities in New York City, this one in downtown Manhattan,

570
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:44,320
two blocks from City Hall. Known as Manhattan's guantanamo for

571
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,000
holding prisoners charge with terrorist crimes, it has a poor reputation.

572
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:54,119
In an article published by The Gothamis last year, Jean Theoharis,

573
00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:57,679
a Brooklyn College political science professor who has written extensively

574
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,119
about the conditions at MCC, called facility and American gulag.

575
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,000
She told the Gothamist, if I describe these conditions filthy, freezing,

576
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,039
no natural light, isolation so extreme that you're punished for

577
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:14,800
speaking through the walls, upsurd rules like prisoners not getting

578
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,280
to see the newspapers unless they're thirty days old, secrecies

579
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,400
so deep that people are force fed, and lawyers can

580
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,599
be punished for describing the conditions their clients are experiencing.

581
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:29,400
You'd be forgiven for thinking that this was Iran or Russia. Look,

582
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,079
the system is fucked. There is no doubt that it

583
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:34,440
needs to be fixed. And there's a reason that they

584
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,320
closed MCC. This place was an absolute dump. That said,

585
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:41,000
it wasn't a place where a bunch of people were

586
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:47,400
killing themselves. While both ADC and MCC are high security

587
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,519
detention facilities that hold high profile prisoners, my own experience

588
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:55,920
as inmate number four five five seven zero zero eight

589
00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:59,639
three has led me to conclude that Epstein, inmate number

590
00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:04,119
seven six three one point eight dashed zero five to four,

591
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,360
should have lived to face his accusers, and that in

592
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,119
a well run prison he would have The ongoing investigation

593
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:16,079
by the FBIDJ Inspector General and the prison itself will

594
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:19,559
explore whether MCC is among the nation's worst run federal

595
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,719
pre trial facilities, and or whether Epstein may have had

596
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,800
some desire or unwanted help in ending his life and

597
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,320
escaping his day in court. Now, look again, I'm not

598
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,239
sitting out here telling you, oh yeah, he was definitely killed.

599
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,840
I simply don't know, and I want answers. That is

600
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,239
the root of all of it. I want answers, just

601
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:49,039
like I know you do. I shun conspiracy theories, but

602
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,960
based on the little that prison officials have said so

603
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:55,400
far and what I know of life in jail, Epstein's

604
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,760
death is deeply troubling. No one should die of unnatural

605
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,079
causes in jail, in a well managed facility. No one would, however,

606
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:05,800
lure the charges against him and the perverse nature of

607
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,519
his alleged crimes. The Epstein death behind bars should trouble

608
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:14,199
every American. The investigation must not rest until what happened

609
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,760
is revealed. Well, we know that's not the case, and

610
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,800
we know that they say the investigations ongoing that way,

611
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,400
they don't have to give up any information. But what

612
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:28,559
have we really seen from the investigators that really confirms

613
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:31,719
the official narrative or their story of the official narrative.

614
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,599
I haven't seen any receipts, and I certainly haven't seen

615
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:37,880
anything that makes me say to myself, you know what,

616
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,840
this really has legs and this is more likely than

617
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,440
this because as of now, I am very very agnostic

618
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,800
about what went down in that jail and in that

619
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,559
jail cell, and until we have more evidence, one way

620
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:53,480
or the other. This will continue to be my position,

621
00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:56,480
all right, folks, It's gonna do it for this one.

622
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,480
If you'd like to contact me, you can do that

623
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:01,880
at Bobby Capuci at proroton mail dot com. That's b

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O B b Y c A p U c c

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00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:11,079
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