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Hey everyone, Thought Crime Syndicate is back and we haven't
even talked about anything a subject that we want to
talk about. But let's do this. Since Jose has been
making the rounds on pretty much every show because he's, yeah,
the Venezuela expert, Jose, what do you What's on your mind?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 3: Just how chaotic things are getting these days, and how
the political class really isn't doing much to push back
against the post World War two order on both foreign
policy front and also domestic fronts, whether it's fully restricting
immigration and actually getting rid of like the Civil Rights revolution,
rolling that back completely, and I just see a reversion
to your conservative tropes or just Reagan night tropes, and
just a completely distracted government. And also where I'm definitely
looking with interest in what's happening in Minneapolis as well.
Speaker 2: So you have a Jewish mayor in Jacob Fry.
Speaker 3: That is just calling for people to abolish any form
of immigration enforcement. So we're just seeing a breakdown. And
that's one thing I'm more concerned with is just the
fact that there's no real serious action from DC or
whatever to implement meaningful reforms to fully roll back some
of the stuff the legislation and other policies that have
hurt the US for decades, if not a century or so.
And that's what I'm mostly kind of talking about. And obviously,
like the whole Venezuela thing, I just gave my perspective
on that, and how I just think that really, if
you want to actually have any form of legitimate security
and restrained foreign policy, you have to end the invade
the world, invite the world consensus that has governed US
since the end of World War Two, and that requires
a thorough overthrow of the ruling class because frankly, these
people they have very different priorities from the people that
have elected people like Donald Trump in office and other
politicians that claim to be populous.
Speaker 2: So that's one theme I'm trying to convey here.
Speaker 1: Do you think that they're with Jacob Fry doing what
he's doing, And then you know, there's a bunch of
right wing Jews that are calling for border control quote
unquote right wing Jews. I mean these are left wing,
left wing anti Trumpers. Just a couple of years ago.
Do you think there is like a split in Judah
right now between some on the left and some on
the right stipulating that even if they don't even if
they aren't conspiring together when one does. When one side
does something, it always seems to work out for the
other side. Strange how that happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what is happening?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you look at David from for example,
he's actually historically said stuff like, hey, Democrats, you guys
need to stop pushing all this open border stuff so
radically or else you're just gonna create a backlash. But
there's always a bait and switch because it's like it's
like the Civil Rights Revolution that once that whole process
was initiated, after let's say like eight to ten years,
and the Black columns start flirting with pro Palestine stuff,
they'll be like, the organized Jewry will be like, Okay,
we need to pump the brakes on this and just
consolidate our gains because we have collums that could potentially
turn against us.
Speaker 2: And I mean, in the case.
Speaker 3: With organized faction of organized Jewelry that's talking about border
control in many respects, they're kind of doing that for
tactical reasons, because when you just have like an insanely
open border for more than like multiple decades, you're going
to provoke a backlash. And the best way to consolidate
those gains after you've let thirty to fifty million illegal
aliens in is to at least concede shutting down.
Speaker 2: The border, but.
Speaker 3: But then start talking about legal migration, opening up the
airways to so called skilled migrants, whether it's like South
Asian pagets or striver class West African migrants, like those types.
And that's what I think is how but because there's
always there's always a poison pill with what they're proposing,
Like they may con see ground on saying okay, we'll
shut down the border and stop border crossms, but then
they'll then open up a new front to replace elites
or aspiring elites with new golums. Because if you look at,
for example, a lot of young professionals under the age
of forty, whether they're right wing or left wing, they are.
Speaker 2: Starting to question Jewry.
Speaker 3: Especially this is very pronounced, especially on the Democrat, liberal
or progressive side, where any pundit below the age of
forty is going to be at least.
Speaker 2: Like pro Palestine.
Speaker 3: So now that they have to just start directly electing
Jewish representatives.
Speaker 2: You see this especially at.
Speaker 3: The state level with governors that have like disproportioned at
Jewish representation and even senators where they can't even trust.
Speaker 2: Their or gallums anymore, and all the right.
Speaker 3: It's also starting to happen to where the amount of
Judeo skepticism has risen meteoritically since October seventh. So the
organized Jewelry is engaging in multiple rearguard actions across the
political spectrum because there is a torrential wave of anti Semitism,
Judeo skepticism, anti Zionism forming.
Speaker 4: Anybody else got anything? Oh, it's just richly deserved. I mean,
what's your name? The absolute psychopath from New York State?
Uh used to be the UN ambassador.
Speaker 1: Stepanie at least Stepan stepanil At.
Speaker 4: She stepped down from the governor's office or the governor's
race because a Jew's running right, like there is no.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: Everyone knows that, and you you wrote about it recently, Bete,
Like everyone knows that we live in effectively what is
it pedolocracy for massade? I mean, what, what what other
conclusion can you come to?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's it's rather difficult when you see,
you know, Jose's work on you know, just exactly how Yeah,
the venezuel and opt was probably the people who are
going to be most most benefit from it are going
to be you know what what Jose loves to call
pan Judah. The then you look here and it's like, okay,
we need remigration like yesterday, and it's.
Speaker 4: To fix everything switch the kids had been naming about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you you look at Ice and you're like, okay,
this isn't what's going to do it. What's going to
do it is basically arresting, arresting mayors, arresting governors, arresting judges,
and taking away the protections from these people so that
they remigrate on their own. Yeah, I hate to say
it this way, that they don't feel safe being here.
And once you see that and you're like, okay, that
would be a great thing, it's like okay, and then
we're still occupied.
Speaker 4: Right, well, yeah, just just two things real quick. Menal
shut up on like Charles, and so they talk more.
Tyler olivera god blessomed in that. I mean, all four
of us knew about carry us Joel right in New York.
And there's all kinds of other acid you know, hatcheries
all over America where these people don't work and they
and they don't contribute anything. And of course the smally
fraud is a thing to be a citizen or republic
from all the way back in ancient India where it
was all white, to you know, modern times, you know,
to being of America. To be a citizen of the
republicad to basically fulfill three or four criteria. You had
to be a you had to be of this, you know,
you had to be a member of the tribe. You
had to like the same blood as everyone else. Occasionally
you could let it in a foreigner, but it was exceptional.
You had to wave the law, you had to pay taxes,
and you had to serve the state in some fashion,
whether that was military or something else. Okay, all of
these people, whether there's Somalis, Haitians, Cidic, Jews, lots of
different types of Latinos, they don't make these criteria. They
need to have their citizens strip shipped, stripped out. And
if you're a public charge, you need to go home.
And the thing to do isn't these you know for
show ice operations. The thing to do is the tax
remittance is at ninety percent, to remove any welfare from
these people and to throw the people who employ them
in jail, all of which is against the law. Now
we have public charge laws, we have or emittance tax
on the books. It's just like one percent right now
or something. And it's already illegal to employee legal aliens.
Once you start doing this, they'd all go home on
their own. Oh, I guess if your head's over, we'll
go home. We didn't like it here anyway. It's too cold,
it's too white. These people can plain when we play
reggaeton at three in the morning, as as are a
natural one, you know, I mean like they don't like
it here. That's why they try and turn everywhere they
are into where they're from.
Speaker 5: Yes, well, and as you said, and I'll use your words,
and I understand, we need to use them carefully.
Speaker 1: You do need to.
Speaker 5: Make them feel unsafe, and that's not necessarily meaning threaten
them with violence, but it is cutting out all their support. Remember,
one of the most punishing things you can do to
a man imprisoned is put him in solitary confinement. That
will drive people crazy. And you're not doing him any
physical violent I know, I'm speaking very technically here. That
is still emiserating somebody. It is still causing one to suffer.
But that's the whole point. And as somebody who has
worked in the field for close to a decade, just
tried to get back in, succeeded in getting back in,
and jumped out in record time because I saw what
an absolute dumpster fire it is. The American public would
be shocked, appalled, and up in arms if they witnessed
what I did just this week. But I'll pass over that.
I'll allied over that for the moment, and I'll say
the drum that I have been banging for decades since
I first came up with it in nineteen ninety eight,
is Remember, most of the world views America not as
a country, but as a strip mall. They come here,
get what they want, and send stuff home, and then
eventually go home to retire, and they use all that
money to live like kings wherever they're from. I'm not
sure if I said this. When you and me were speaking,
Pete on one broadcast, one of your live broadcasts, we
were talking about immigration. But one of the biggest times
for self induced remigration in the United States, the biggest
time of the year is around Christmas. And why is that.
It's because all the South Americans go home to see family,
and when's the highest rate of illegal immigration again, right
after Christmas, So they can come back here and understand,
most of these people's money, when they earn it, a
significant portion of it goes back to foreign countries. That's
the whole point. So, as D said, all you have
to do is take laws that are already on the
books and enforce them. Maybe maybe turn the dial up
on them a little bit. Maybe, but I would say
one admittedly is it would have to be cranked up
to eleven, but it's still not changing any law in
and of itself. Just just an application of it would
be just the remittances. Sure, tax them up to ninety percent.
You would be shocked at how many people would leave
just because of that, Because again, this is a strip mall.
You don't have to escort these people out. You just
have to make them unable to afford the goods in it.
They'll leave themselves. There's nothing interesting about a strip mall
except what you can get from it. And if you
can't get anything from it, there's no need to go there.
And you'll find these steps in and of themselves will
start to have the problem solve itself. Now again, there
will come other necessities, I'll say, I will absolutely say that,
But the easy start is simply use what we have.
For example, where are all our sedition laws? Why aren't
they being utilized? All these mayors talking about I find
it bitterly ironic and humorously ironic that a lot of
these people that in any other contest a context, if
we were discussing the Civil War, they would call the
Confederates traders, betrayers, disloyal. And they got what they deserve
by getting stomped out by the North for wanting to separate,
for wanting to do their own thing, and for denying
federal troops. Yet in the last ten days alone, they
themselves have said, forego any kind of federal government intervention.
Get rid of them. We don't want them here, they
don't belong here. Fight them, fight them. It's I mean,
I know no one here is surprised by their hypocrisy.
No one is. And then I'm not saying see, look, look,
see their hypocrites. That's not my point. My point is
to simply say that they know they're guilty of it.
They just know no one will punish them, and we
need to punish them. And I'm not even saying punish
them extra legally. I'm saying, use the power that we have.
And the irony is and I'll close here and let
somebody else take the floor. The irony is. The real
reason Trump is as popular as he is is he's
the first president in my lifetime to actually use one
hundredth of the power that he was given to change
things for the better. Now we can say that he
didn't do enough, we can say that he's doing it
for Israel, we can put a million qualifiers on it,
but that does not change the fact that he is
the first one that has at least dipped his toe
in the usage of executive power for the benefit of
a significant portion of the native stock of this country,
the European stock of this country.
Speaker 4: Talking about it, about talking about doing it, not even
actually doing it, but just talking about it is what
has these people freaked out and ready to commit treason
and ready to commit insurrection. Because the last person to
actually try and do anything, you know, they impeached him
and he resigned and that was That was half a
century ago. So for half a century, Donald Trump was
the only person to actually even talk about using the
powers of the federal government for the actual citizens of
this country. And that was enough just talking about it,
not doing it, not cracking down, not you know, killing
people in the street and whatever all these other people
are talking about, just talking about like actually doing his job.
And these people are freaked out.
Speaker 5: Right, And there's a reason for that, d And we
both know what that reason is. The reason is because
once that Spickett turns on, the flow is only going
to get faster and harder. It's not going to turn
off because once people start realizing, wait a minute, we
can just do things to use the colloquialism then, and
not only that, once you start convincing the civic nationalists.
Yes they're a plague, I know, but as I'm very
fond of quoting, our list of allies grows thin once
we get the civic nationalists to realize, wait a minute,
these are already existing laws. We can just use them.
These are all already illegal. As I pointed out on Twitter,
not long ago, maybe a month ago tops, which I
guess is a long time for the Internet, but not
long ago to me, I pointed out, and people were
misunderstanding my point, but I pointed out, illegal immigration is
not just hopping over a fence. Did you lie on
a form you're an illegal immigrant? Did a company lie
for you you're an illegal immigrant? Did you fake a
relationship for somebody to come in here? That person is
an illegal immigrant. We're not talking about just jumping offence.
If we actually just used the law where it says,
if you're lying on this form, then you are denied
the benefit. I promise you, there wouldn't be more than
two thousand people of Indian of Indian nationality here, wouldn't
even be two thousand in the whole country because either
some company lied about lied for them, some family member
lied for them, or some combination thereof lied for them.
Just that alone.
Speaker 1: They lied about their.
Speaker 5: College college degrees, They're exactly, They lied about their educational credentials.
People forget that again. This is a drum I've been
banging for a long time. Illegal immigration is not just
somebody swam across the border, somebody jumped a fence. Illegal
immigration is way bigger than that. You would be amazed,
amazed how many peopleeole you could legally just say, oh,
we investigated your form and found out this company didn't
need you. Boot your citizenship's gone. Your I five five
one's gone, your H one B is gone, et cetera,
all of it. It's gone. Get on the plane.
Speaker 2: Go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the will is there, and I think
the will is there amongst the people. But it just
seems like at every turn the administration is not willing
to cross the rubicon and do what needs to be done.
The remittance. This thing is the easiest one. I mean,
they could do that by he could do that by
executive order tomorrow. The but you know, but the problem
is is crossing the rubicon and all so being somebody
who worries about your own legacy, and you know, there
there really is the the opinion amongst a lot of people,
and I'm pretty sure I share it. I Mean, sometimes
I'll be like, eh, that Trump wants everyone to like him,
like even those shitty people that he grew up with
in New York City, you know, the shit Libs and
you know the Jews. He wants them all to like him,
and he doesn't seem to want to take that final step.
He's willing to go and fuck around in another country
because no judge is stopping him. No, you know, no
no Jew is saying don't do that. He's willing to
threaten Erra, but he's not willing to do what needs
to be done with someone like Tim Walls or Jacob
Fry or just the people on the street. I mean,
I saw a video. I saw a video today from Minneapolis.
Guy was walking down the street with a he had
a hoodie on that had an American flag on the
back of it, and like there was just a crowd
that bullied him into taking it off. This wasn't a
white dude. This was like obviously an immigrant of some sort,
some sort. And he eventually said, you know, yeah, I
mean they broke into an ice vehicle the other day
and stole a rifle. I'm a gude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well and they only found the guy because he's
got face tattoos. This is there there. I saw a
video of a guy who was just driving an SUV
sparenly worked for the press. He got surrounded by a
bunch of shit limbs and they basically bullied him like, well,
you need to rent another car, you need to drive
some bills. You can't drive a nice you've your run here.
Look at all the this is this is pathological empathy
to the point of like suicide. And we can't live
with these people and the fact that the average person
understands this and then the government doesn't. I'll go one
step further, Bete. It's not just Tim Walls or Jacob
Fray or Kafy Hochel or what's the new governor of
Virginia whatever, like spamburger, like it's it's uh, it's hot Wheels,
it's it's it's Greg Abbott, it's Ron DeSantis. They're just
as complicit as these other guys because they're not doing
their job. You know, if if you took the Constitution's
claim seriously about providing a federal form of government, then
you wouldn't let illegal immigrants vote in your state, and
you would complain about non citizens voting, and you would
and you would do something about auditing your medicaid books
or your public schools and making sure that taxpayer dollars
did not go to people who were there illegally. And
yet I guarantee you, without even without even looking, I
guarantee you an audit of the state of Texas could
find five billion dollars being spent on illegal immigrants in Texas.
Speaker 5: Easily, oh, absolutely, no doubt.
Speaker 4: And not even like anchor babies who were born here
as citizens and technically not like I guarantee you there
are easily Texas.
Speaker 1: Texas is going to be is going to be Canada,
Texas is going to be Ontario because they're just Indians
are just flocking in, Yeah, right, and you know they're
they're putting up their fucking you know, they're demon their
statues and.
Speaker 4: They're they're demonic temple, you know, Temple of Doom.
Speaker 1: Well, and.
Speaker 4: Just because this is my wheelhouse and kind of talked
about a little bit, Pete, if you had a guess,
what would you say, Like the worst two types of
environment to like operate any kind of construction project.
Speaker 1: Are environment I mean you saw weather like climate like yeah, yeah, climate,
what I mean I would I would say cold freezing
snow and probably like desert conditions.
Speaker 4: Well, you're right on the first one, you're wrong on
this second. And then the two worst are the Arctic
and Subarctic and antar and the worst second worst is
the jungle. And for lots of reasons that I won't
get into here, I have experience operating in both those.
I've been working in and around the mining and energy
sectors for a long long time, in and around and
all this tough talk about, oh, we're gonna take over Green.
Like you think the Danes don't like money. You think
they like just having these fifty thousand, sixty thousand eskimos
that do nothing but soak up welfare and molest their sisters.
You think like they the Danes, right, they couldn't put
together a mine. They couldn't. Of course they could. It's
just really hard. Everything runs off diesel, Diesel turns to jelly.
When it's negative fifty outside, it's you know, metal fatigues.
You know, people can only be out for a short
amount of time and everyone's gonna be bundled up like
the micheline man. You show even a flash of skin,
you just freezes off. It's fucking awful. And you've you've
live in the South, I don't need to tell you. Right,
imagine Houston, but like worse. And if you're in Venezuela,
everything rusts and like no time at all, everything rots
that the the you know moss, and it just it
just makes everything very very difficult. Food spoils, it's without
ac it's just impossible. And you know, well Venezuela is
a failing state. Well the only place that they don't
have a functioning electrical grid. Well, because you sanctioned them,
and Siemens, the only guy that actually the only people
that actually make the transformers that a modern electrical good requires,
you said that they couldn't buy any. So yeah, they
have a failing electrical grid. They couldn't afford maintenance on
their oil infrastructure for the last ten years because Jews
sanctioned them. Because you know, Hugo chav has said some
mildly critical things about Jews after they killed a bunch
of kids, and how they can speak to that more
than I can. I mean, strong leaders, everyone to follow
his substack and listen to all this stuff, different stuff
he's been talking about because he's been burning up the
airways lately. But you know, we're doing all this stuff,
you know, I mean, I guess the one side bene
him Trump destroys NATO. But we're not sovereign over Baltimore.
We're not sovereign over Minneapolis. We're not sovereign over Texas, Houston, Texas.
We're not sovereign over New York City. Why do we
fucking care if nuke Greenland is Danish? Who fucking cares?
It's insane. Baltimore's what forty minutes down the road from Washington, DC,
and it's not an American city.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, that's exactly what I've been saying.
Ever since the Venezuela thing I've gotten people will say,
oh this. The only reason I'm like, well, what the
fuck are we doing with Venezuela is because I used
to be a libertarian the libertarian priors or what is? Yeah,
when I was a libertarian, I was saying, yeah, why
the fuck are we doing this for zog That's exactly
what I was saying. Fucking retards. Yeah yeah, another one,
you know. Another one is like, oh yeah, I just
love brown people. Really, I deport every fucking peron. I
would deport everyone.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm a little darker than than most, but not really.
I mean, anyone who's ever met me has been like, oh, oh,
but they're all gone. Venezuelans, Mexicans, Squadmalans, Indians, Filipinos, they're
all gone. In a heartbeat, how the fuck does how
the fuck does Venezuela, What does Venezuela have anything to
do with that? I need to cheerlead Venezuela. Let's approve
that that I care more about this country that I
care as much about this country as somebody else. How
about you go fuck yourself?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think it's funny that people say that
about you. Yet how many times have we set on
this program we should be the darkest people in your neighborhood? Like,
how many times have we how many times have we
made that joke? And how many times have I said
I think did you and d have laughed and agreed
with it. It's like, Okay, we'll take sixty days of
you peeking out your blinds at us to make sure
that we're not not up to no good. We'll take
sixty days of you got to, you know, slowly drive
him by the house to make sure we're keeping the
area clean. Okay, you got sixty days. We'll deal with it.
And then after that we're wanting you know, it's okay,
just leave us be.
Speaker 2: We're just like you.
Speaker 5: But how many times we made that joke too? Three?
Easily on this program?
Speaker 1: Easily, dude. I've had I've had my I've had but yes,
I've had my I've had my politics attacked, I've had
my character attacked. I've had my Catholicism attacked. All of this,
at all of it because because you know, I don't
want Paul Singer, you know, to have billions more than
he has already. I want to strip him of every
fucking dollar he has and send him to the fucking desert.
Speaker 4: Well he should be in leaving with He destroyed Sydney, Nebraska.
I think it was Sydney, Nebraska. Yes, yes, yes, Tucker
Tucker did a story about it, Like, this is a
man who is malicious. He hates Americans, he promotes a sodomy.
He's he uses his ill gotten wealth to undermine other nations.
He's he's you know, if if if doing something bad
in another country, it's grounds to like round people up
and take all their ship, why can't Vladimir Putin or
Jijingping be like Paul Singer is a bad person who
does bad things, and so we're gonna like arrest him, right, Like,
if that's the standard, we're sitting he the real sovereign. Yeah,
well him and fucking Jonathan uh green Blad at the
ADL right like if you know, conspiracy against free speech,
Jonathan William Brad just like admitted to it, like this
is not and to your to one point Pete. You know,
there is under Catholic just war theory. And I'll be
talking to the doer Ad about this next week on show.
No intervention we've undergone in the entire twenty first century
passes the test. The Afghanistan one kind of sort of
did it at the beginning, But you have to have
a defined goal of like what's the goal of this war?
Is it just like show up and just randomly killed people?
Like that's not just there is no you know, Okay,
so under Catholic principles, like none of these wars are
acceptable under you know, libertarian or under you know, constitutional,
Like this isn't like where's Congress? Did they pass a lot?
Did they declare ward? No? Okay, So we're just gonna
randomly kill a bunch of people because Jews want us to,
like under no circumstance. Can I think of a single
good reason other than like team of America World place
type shit of like America fucker that this is any
kind of good idea and like that was supposed to
be a satire guys like and then and then they
want a serious policy for both them.
Speaker 1: And now that we're going and now that we're going
to war, like every war is not only for Jews,
but going war like Jews. We're going to war like Jews.
Then it's like, oh, well, you know, you got to
cheer on, cheer on when your enemy, you know, make
fun of your enemy right down to right right down,
and then dance on their grave. That's not what white
men do. That's not what Europeans do, That's what Jews do.
You're acting like a fucking Zionist. You're acting like, you know,
the Jews that made T shirts for you know, shooting
pregnant pregnant women in Gaza. That's never been what white people.
What the way White Europeans celebrated their war victories. They
went home and they they celebrated it, but they also
respected their enemies. And it's hard to respect your enemies
when your enemies are not just deserving of respect, but
still you have to have a fucking higher standard, you know,
and just declaring anyone your enemy. I mean like literally,
like I had people arguing with me saying, oh, you
like commis Now are we still fighting the Cold War?
Is this what Thomas says he goes to the military. It
doesn't even really work anymore because it's still fighting the
Cold War? Are we still people still fighting the Cold War?
Was Maduro? Is Maduro a commie? Why isn't the Communist
Party of Venezuela like behind him? How come they think
he's a piece of shit? So I don't I don't
like Maduro. I don't really, I shouldn't even know he
exists in the first place. But they have resources. Jews
want resources. Jews control our government. Those resources have to
be ours unquote hours and I'm I'm I'm supposed to.
I'm supposed to, rah rah, look at our foreign policy
and everything while everything's turning to shit here, No motherfuckers,
until you get shit fixed here, you can't. This is
this is the whole thing that I've always said. I say,
you people are like, well, what our country needs to
be taken back? What can I do? First thing you
gotta do is fix your house. You can't expect to
go out into your neighborhood and fix your neighborhood if
there's something wrong with it. Until your house is fixed,
you got to get your shit in order before you
can start looking outwards. And as a country, sure, we
fucked up outsourced shit to China, you know, basically allowed
the Jews to declare war on Russia, who should be
our natural ally. Yeah, there's a lot of problems there,
but those are problems that should be handled diplomatically. The
military shit should be happening here. Yeah, sorry, absolutely, no, No,
I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, That's what I've been talking
with and I won't drop names or anything, but that's
what I've been talking with federal officers and military guys.
It's one conversation that keeps coming up repeatedly, and I'm
going to draw on D's point as well. You know,
leaning on I can't speak personally of it, but leaning
on governors not doing their jobs and state officials not
doing their jobs. A lot of guys in law enforcement,
federal and local, and the military, they're all lately very
much thinking about their oath, specifically federal, where it says
protecting the United States from enemies foreign and domestic, foreign
and domestic. I took that oath years ago, I took
it again recently, and I take it very seriously, and
a lot of our guys are like, hmm, that's my oath.
That's the oath I swore, and that's the oath I
want to uphold. And we've got plenty of domestic enemies.
Why aren't they being officially identified? Why aren't we being
mobilized to get them? Because again, I'll go back to
the point I raised earlier, I am not saying do
anything extra judiciously. That is not what I am saying.
I'm not calling for that on this public program. I
am saying we already take that oath. There is already
a definition of domestic enemies. Okay, so let's go to
war with them. Let's do it. I agree with you, Pete,
that's exactly where our arms, our forces should be deployed
against domestic enemies.
Speaker 3: I agree with one of the points that was raised
before about how you don't really need to do some
trick it restructuring of the government or implement a novel
system to fix these problems, because ultimately we already have
the laws and the books, the bureaucracy, and the mechanisms
in place to get things right. It's the issue is
the one of who is actually the sovereign and under
the one sovereign principle, we what we see is it's
an organized jewelry. It's a hostile sovereign that has very
different types of interests in mind, and sometimes they may
use clever marketing and other strategies to enlist the resource,
the resources and assistance of gentiles, but they ultimately are
going to a different destination from us. And that's the
big challenge is to effectively topple this sovereign that is
a domestic threat for sure, And that's how you set
things right, because you don't need some of these problems.
Aren't that complicated to begin with, and there's no need
to reinvent thee, especially when there are plenty of like
anti terror legislation on the books, anti racketeering and all
that to bust up these NGO networks and other bad
actors that promote mass migration, never anything war, so cultural
degeneracy and other social maladies. So yep, well you have
to get rid of these hostile actors effectively.
Speaker 4: Well, aren't all these transnational drug gangs already designated terrorists
like trend Aragua and the Mexican cartels, And correct me
if I'm wrong, but I think that they're all already designated,
And so every every dude with a face tattoo that
says I am part of a transnational gang of killers
why can't you just like, oh, hey, hey, looks like
a terrorist.
Speaker 5: I believe some of them are. I mean, I will
confess outright, my knowledge is woefully, woefully ancient. But I
know groups like Los Ato's and others were.
Speaker 4: Yes, well, and how hard would it be to just
classify them as such and then round them up?
Speaker 5: Oh right, well, that would be easy. I mean that.
Speaker 4: They're committing terrorism. They're they're killing people for political reasons
in Mexico, they're killing people for potical reasons in the
United States. It's not not difficult.
Speaker 5: Just like but and again, all that's your we're once
again do you and me were saying very similar things,
if not the same, which is that's my whole point.
Just all we have to do, and thank you Jose
for the support, Like, all we have to do is
use what we have on the books. All we have
to do is just get somebody to have the courage
to say X is now classified as a terrorist group,
X is now classified as a domestic enemy. Why is
now classified as a domestic enemy? That's it, and then
you just start moving it. I know it sounds like
I'm oversimplifying things, but I'm really not. I'm really not.
Look at what they do again, look at what Look
at what the FBI has been doing to citizens. Look
at what they did in January sixth. These aren't even
people that were officially classified as anything. They were simply
arrested and throwing in print. And did anybody get punished
for that? No, nobody got punished for that. And I
mean why exactly because they just used the powers they had,
They just found the loopholes they had. Our enemies are
willing to do it. We didn't even have to cheat,
just play by the same rules. Say okay, we found
a way to make you prosecutable, we found a way
to imprison you. We're going to do it. That's it,
That's all there is to it. But as you said, Pete,
maybe Trump it just wants to be liked. And that's
a problem. I can understand the human compulsion to wanting
to be liked. I want to be liked. I want
all of your listeners to like me. But that's not
a reality. That's not going to happen. And I'm certainly
not going to sacrifice my principle to be liked. Do
I want them all to like me?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 5: But am I going to change myself to be liked. No,
And I mean, and I'm a nobody, who am I?
If I have wielded power, that would be even worse
to be wont to be liked, To change myself, to
change my course of action, to change.
Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta a disagree with you, Charles. I
don't want these people to like me, okay.
Speaker 1: Right right?
Speaker 5: I said Pete listeners. I didn't say I didn't say everybody.
I said I want to Pete's listeners.
Speaker 4: But these people, yeah, the people complaining about the freedom
of of You know, Nicole Good, and she deserves no.
Nicole Good was bad, actually, and it's a positive It
is a positive good that she got got because she
was an enemy of all decent people, of white people,
of civilization of America, of pick your thing. This woman
was an enemy of it and the and and the
true that you still you still don't have to celebrate
your enemy's deaths.
Speaker 1: That's what Jews do. But I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna like dance on our grave and celebrate.
I'm just not gonna be upset when bad people have
been bad. Things happen to bad exactly, and the people
who want to complain about well, you're a bootlooker now
and you're going to grow up. Grow up. This is
not a game where like, oh, Pete beat me at
chess and so I gotta buy him a beer. This
is do we have a country or not? Is there
a civilization or not? Are we on the verge of
nuclear war?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: Maybe it's hysterical, maybe it's crazy, maybe it's just some
old boomer nut job. But Tucker Carlson interviewed Sergei Kardenov,
who is apparently some sort of political in Russia and
maybe Jewish, I don't know, talking about how if the
Ukraine War doesn't end, Russia is going to nuke Germany
and England. That invosts an Article five that means worldwide
global thermonuclear war and as us children of the eighties
will remember, the only way to win is not play. Okay, Like,
this is not fucking a game, Okay. Vadimir Putin bad
guy killer, Say whatever you want about him. He's not
a fool and he's serious. You do not get appointed
KGB of Colonel of the KGB in East Germany in
nineteen eighty seven by being a nice guy. You get
there by being a serious, serious dude, and his country
was in the dumps in nineteen ninety nine. In two
thousand and he brought it back to where it's one
of the most prosperous countries in the world. Moscow is
the biggest, nicest white city in the world. And if
this Sergate guy who was on Tucker and I strongly
reade everyone to listen to Tucker's monologue, it was fantastic
about why we I think it was deeply whyse what
Tucker id say? But if that's what actual Russians are thinking.
They have the world's biggest nuclear stockpile, they have a
country that spans like ten time zones. They have all
read natural resources in the world, not some of them,
all of them. Why are we letting a bunch of resentful,
steadle Jews who are asked mad about a program from
sixteen forty eight drag us into a war that might
destroy the whole world if you don't understand what time
it is and that there's no living with people who
are more upset about Vladimir Putin defending actual Russians in
the dombas then their neighbors getting killed by drunk Mexicans,
and that they care more about the rights of Somalias
to steal tax payer money than little English girls who
get raped by foreigners. There is no living with these people,
and they cannot have power, and they cannot vote, and
they cannot have any responsibility for anything in the public.
They can't be in government, they can't serve on juries,
they can't be teachers, they can't be in the media.
They have to be rooted out, root and branch and rusticated,
as Charles Haywood says, they need to be picking turnips
in Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's I mean, what you're missing is that
we took out out a Latin American dictator. So you know,
what do you what do you what are you ask
mad about? I mean, like literally, I mean people, it's
like I said this, and privately people are telling me
I'm right. These people have like you know, especially the
ones who are like weren't even of age for Trump
number one. They're like they've never had a win in
their lives politically, and they see this as a win
and it's an ext and they like treated as an
extension of them, like like somehow they won something. No, No,
the occupied government, the occupiers won something. Tell me what
you won, well are something Yeah, yeah, well we're safer,
safer from what cocaine came through. Cocaine came through that's
the main thing that came through Venezuela. That may have
been facilitated by Venezuela. Okay, you know where most of
that cocaine's going to? New York City, Washington, d C.
Los Angeles, all the shitload places. Do you think they're
going to do without their cocaine? All they did was
switch distributors. But yay, you got your win, you got yay.
I mean, I've seen this fucking I'm so old. I've
seen this movie over and fucking over again. It's like,
you know, it's like, now, oh, well Iran, we'll have
regime change in Iran, and then you know, we'll have
what I've heard this before. Dude. There are people like
celebrating this who were like completely against Bush's wars. Oh,
but this is different. This is in our hemisphere with
an occupied government, right. These people think that, like, I mean,
has it the quote unquote deep state, the administrative state?
Has it been dismantled? No? No, this is something that's charles.
It's it's it's ten times worse than it was in
two thousand and one. I mean, this is this is ridiculous.
There are people like you know who they believe that
because they know somebody who works in the administration, or
they have people that are talking to people in the
administration that the government works for them. I talked to
people in the administration. I am not at all at
all thinking that, oh, you know, because I know something,
I know a couple of people in high places that
the govern's working for the government's working for me. Are
you fucking how retarded do you have to be to
believe that you may know somebody who's going up to Watchington,
DC and talking to people that you're in charge, that
they're working for you. That's You're a child if you
believe that, and it's childish thinking, and you need to
grow up because this is what I'm hearing. Don't disrespect Trump.
He's the commander in chief, okay. And if you're twenty five,
do you know do you know the thing? Do you
know the things that I've Does that mean I have
to take back, you know, like calling Obama the N
word for eight years because he was the commander in chief.
To grow the fuck up, leave your fucking house kiss
a girl.
Speaker 4: Well, Peter, I don't take political advice from pacifists, and
I don't do social advice from girls from a dude
who's never talked the girl out of our underwear. So
for most people this would do. This would probably just like,
if you haven't meet that basical standard of competence, I'm
just not gonna talk to you or take you seriously.
But if you're twenty five years old and you're desperate
for Trump to you know, to win one, you need
to understand three things about Donald Trump. One, as Pete said,
he wants everyone to like him. So the way you
get him to do things you want is not like him.
He treats his enemies better than he treats his friends.
Look at what we did to Jeff Sessions in the
first term. Look at you we did to Marjorie Taylor
Green in the second term. Right, you know, this is
not a man that is loyal, is a great friend.
Now everything's a business transaction with this guy, so you
treat him like an enemy. You constantly say that was nice,
Now give me more, okay. Second, I sympathize very deeply
with you know, usingomer kids who were born in the
late nineties or early two thousands, and you've never known
a functioning in saying society. I mean, I'm old, so
I remember one. But if you want that back, if
you you know, want eighties vibes back, and you know,
pit vipers and America and whatever, the first thing you
need to do isn't support Donald Trump. It's support the
Americans that are getting screwed by Donald Trump. Yeah, gas
is a little bit cheaper, great woo. It was only
minor league bank breaking when I had to fill up
my truck. There's not going to be a solution out
of Washington because Obama and then Biden after him purged
the entire federal service of anybody who was remotely competent
or had the right ideas, and Trump did nothing about it.
Trump should have fired everybody above colonel, colonel and above
should have all just been fired, but he didn't. He
left those people in And what do they do? Nothing?
Because there on the team, Every every federal agency is
full of people. We had someone in the Secret Service
betray the Vice President.
Speaker 1: For chritsix fucking a an immigrant. Yeah, they have immigrants
protecting the vice president. And you're and you're trusting the
plan the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 5: Well, who do you think runs uscis? The Immigration and
Naturalization Service? Now, who do you think runs that? That's
all fore and born border patrols almost all foreign born.
Speaker 4: Yeah, border patrols full of Mexicans.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they get that. They are they are the it
is the fox guarding the henhouse.
Speaker 4: Well, and the judges, right, we live in it. We
live in a we live in a Jewish oligarchy. But
the extent that we have a formal government structure, it's
all a criterarchy. And of of the I was talking
with someone who's in a position and know, I'll just
say that something like at least twenty percent of our
federal inmates are illegal imintates that have committed like violent
you know, like murder and other violent crimes. Right, So
you're a foreigner who commits a violent felony American soil,
you should just be executed. But the judges who would
hear that case, they are at least fifty percent foreigners
and women, very often foreign women. You think that you
think that judge Lakwanda Johnson from from Jamaica, you think
she's gonna like render a sane verdict or is she
gonna be like, well, he needs a pat on the head,
and maybe he needs to be told how to be American.
And in America, we don't like rape, killing eaton, not
necessarily in that order. You know, innocent ten year old kids.
I'll never forget it. I was talking with Charles a
couple months ago or like last year. There was a
the governor of Oklahoma, whatever his name is. He's like
the worst Republican in the worst Republican governor, right, he
committed the sentence of a guy who committed like literally
a cannibal murderer and then committed the sentence black guy.
That guy got out and then like committed murder again
or something like that. It was some some awful, awful thing.
I can't remember exactly the details, but it was stuck
in my memory because it was so so terrible. Okay,
this is an ostensible Republican Trump's bragging about all the
first step back, Oh, look at all these criminals of
lat out of jail. How many people have been killed
in America? It's not it's not none. Why all the
criminals that Donald Trump let out because he wanted Negros
to vote for him? And did they vote for him? No,
but he's always chasing them, you know, as our mcada
put it recently, where's the stuff that the evangelical white
Christians who vote for Donald Trump get? Like they're the
they're the only demographic that's loyal to him? Why what
do they get?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: What? What's what's? What's in it for them?
Speaker 1: Where's the patronage? If you want my support, where's the
fucking patronage? The other side, the other side, they get patronage?
Speaker 4: Get why isn't Pete running a think tank for a million?
Speaker 3: No matter who you vote for, you get Jonathan green
Blatz a gender.
Speaker 4: Thank you Jose for putting it much more succinctly than
I could.
Speaker 3: Just an addendum to ta uh the Woods rule.
Speaker 1: That's a good one and apparently out the reality that
was just laid out last year, and the reason why
people voted for Trump is blackpilling. When you put it
on the line and say, you know, I voted for
Trump because I thought Trump would be better than Kamala
pretty much ends a story. That's it figured I had
a better chance of no one breaking down my door
with Trump than with Kamala. Questionable nowadays, considering you know
who the the faction that won out. That was that
was warring for his attention. But all the things you know, like,
oh there are no Epstein files. Oh it's the Democrats
made it up. It's a Democrat hoax. Oh there are
Epstein files. I mean, Jerald Cooper said something once that
I maybe the smartest thing he ever said. If if
Jeffrey Epstein died in his cell, Americans didn't march on Washington,
DC and do whatever needed to be done to end
this government, no one's coming to save you, because that
should have told you Americans are not in charge of
the government. And you can just look at this administration
and be like, I don't think Americans are in charge
of this governments. Some paperwork Americans, there's some fake dual loyalty,
but we also know dual loyalty just means one loyalty.
They're only, as Ben Shapiro said, his loyalty to this
country ends when they stop being loyal to when this
country stops being loyal to Israel. So what's changed? Sure,
some great things have been done, some band aids have
been put in place. Where's the change, where's the lasting
change coming from? Where is the hope of lasting change?
Coming from They sold out the whole industry, the economics
of this country to China. Then they financialized the country
to the point where, really, if you want to get
rich in this country, you better be able to know
how to play the market, because it's not like you're
it's not like you're going to get a you're you're
going to get a job unless you're probably you know,
going to be a CEO of something that's going to
give you the kind of the kind of wealth that
was promised, you know, that was the old promise of
this country a long time ago. Where do you think
this is? Where do you think this is coming from?
Where do you think where are the answers going to
come from? If you can't, if you can't stop people
from breaking into an ice vehicle, put them down, if
you can't put those people down, if you can't remove
a sitting judge who probably wasn't even born in this
country so that you can get your agenda through, and
you're gonna, ye know, and then you're just gonna you're
lackeys are gonna tell me, no, you just gotta wait.
You just gotta be patient. You gotta be patient. They're coming,
They're coming. Ten thousand more ice officers ten thousand. This
isn't going to be solved by ice. Fuck you fucking
fuck wits. This isn't solved by ice. This is solved
strangely by decree. You don't how many. If there's fifty
million people here, fifty million illegals here, or one hundred
million people, you really think that they're just gonna wrap
that that's gonna be rounding them up. No, you have
to make it so that they cannot survive here and
that they leave.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: Cut off everything, yes, exactly, cut off everything. Minneapolis. There
should not be a federal dollar and entitlement dollar anything
going into Minneapolis. And if there are heritage Americans there
who are good people, set up something, set up something
through the churches, set up something through however, you have
to do it and make sure that it's only heritage
Americans that are getting taken care of. Starve them the
fuck out.
Speaker 4: One out of six children in the Charlotte, North Carolina
school District YEP is a foreigner.
Speaker 1: YEP. It's one out of four. Nationally, it's one out
of four kids sitting in a public school is either
is either for is either for They're they're an immigrant
or their parents who are an immigrant. One out of
four yep, nationally, how.
Speaker 4: Many of those were you know, white Venezuelans are uh,
white Cubans fleeing communism, were white South Africans or white
Europeans making you know, coming to this country and assimilating
kind of seeing video learned Whisky posed it of like
some Australian guy who became to America, similar to like
America is awesome, you know, like I have freedom here
and I can have guns and I can free speech. Like, yeah,
more guys like that, right. You know, if Mark Collet
or Thomas Sowell came to from the UK or Australian
seeking political slimline, be like, sure, let them in because
they're genuinely under political repression. But we both everyone here
knows and everyone listening, and everyone in Washington and all
the people who hear this. You know, Oh, the vast, vast,
vast majority of the people that have come to this
country in the last half century are not good citizens
who just want a better life and contribute. They're here
as free writers who want to take our stuff because
to them, this is the land of milk and honey.
Speaker 5: It's a strip mall, as I said, yes, it's a
strip mall. That's exactly correct. Do you know how many
people of European descent I gave a green card or
citizenship to in my eight years with USI and S.
Did I tell you this already? D Pete? Did I
tell you how many that was? Because I counted, I
count remember five, five in eight years. That's less than
one a year. And I did fourteen interviews a day
a day.
Speaker 4: So tens of thousands of people, and you did five.
Speaker 5: YEP of European descent. Yes, And I can tell you
why every one of them did it. I can remember.
There was not one that was different. They were all
older white guys that were in more often than not,
the shipping business, like literal sailors, captains, stuff like that.
And the only reason they were here they didn't even
particularly like America. They were here because their wives were
American and they wanted to finally do it for their wives,
and their wives wanted to stay here and come home
because they were getting older. They wanted to be around
their families, so they did it for that. Most of
them didn't even particularly want to be here because they
saw the writing on the wall. What was there here
for them? What was there here for white people? And
nothing not for them? They weren't stupid men, they saw
it five in my whole career.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, how do you fix that? How
do you fix that outside of yeah, drastic drastic measures. Yeah,
I mean, has.
Speaker 5: Anybody had the misfortune of being in an emergency room recently?
I was hurt on the job not long ago.
Speaker 1: I love it a small town, I was, but I
love it. I love it in a very small town. And
I was the only person in the emergency room.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry you were in the emergency room, but I'm
glad you got very quick service. I live in not
as small a town as you, but also a small town.
But there was me and one other person, and I
could tell you one hundred percent easily that the other
person wasn't illegal, because I did speak a lick of English,
they had a contranslator, she didn't have any identification. She
was here with a baby. And I was like, so,
even though there's only two people in here, that's fifty
percent of this room is illegals. So all we have
to do is extrapolate from there.
Speaker 4: Well, and moreover, I mean everything everyone said tonight is correct.
Speaker 2: But like.
Speaker 4: Donald Trump is working to get rid of Thomas Masky.
He got already got rid of Marjorie Taylor degree. Where
is you know, even on like fiscal grounds. You know,
Thomas Massy can put on his like black and yellow
bowll tye and be like, well, it's not fiscally sustainable
and we need to cut the deficit, and so you know,
blow like, well, I don't care how right, but Thomas
Massey generally comes to the correct conclusions just because he's
an autistic libertarian about the economy of the federal budget.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't care. Why isn't Donald Trump going after Susan
Collins and Lisa Rakowski and all the other Republicans wishes
who are trying to ruin his life? You think that
these people don't have campaign finance violations? You think he
could find something on these people and throw them in prison.
Of course he could. They're all crooks, they all fuck kids.
Pardon my language, but that's how they get there. And
Donald Trump is there and safe because he's probably in
on it. I mean, I love you, guys, I genuinely do.
But would any of you stay friends with me if
you found out that I was buddies with somebody like
Jeffrey Epstein, or would you be like, get the fuck
away from me, I don't want anything to do with
you for the rest of my life, which is a
correct and proper response.
Speaker 1: I mean, there'd have to be a huge maya culpa
and you know, an explanation. But I mean it's you know,
you You even have people now who I remember when
when all that was happening, when they were vombiting around,
and you're like, hey, what about the Epstein files and
people people quote unquote right wingers, Oh, what you just
want to you want to see child porn? Is that
what you want? I mean these I really hate the
term cope because I think it's something that you reserve
for your enemies. But it's getting clearer and clearer that
there are a lot of people who say they're on
our side, who are our enemies because their cope and
they're the way they're coping with the fact that nothing
is basically being done to solve the domestic problem, and
then they're attacking you when you bring that up. I mean,
that's what enemies do. Maybe it's just me, I don't know,
Maybe that's the way I see people. I mean, I've
had a lot of really fucking bad opinions in my life.
I've had a lot of really bad opinions since I
started this podcast, and I'm doing everything. I've tried to
apologize for them over and over again. I'm doing everything
I can to try to bring people with this podcast
like reality based, reality based reporting or whatever we're doing here,
commentary history, you know, real history, true history of what happened.
And you know, it basically means that you have to
swallow your pride and your ego has to you know,
has to disappear if you're going to say, yeah, I
was wrong about this for a lot of years and
I let people down a real you know, I was
leading people down a really bad path. Yeah. I hope
to see that from a lot of people right now
who are like just making cheering on policies that are
not doing anything to strengthen this country. And it's not
that I can and not the country, the people. Fuck
the country, you know, fuck the idea of a country.
Let's talk about nation, which is a people. There is
very little being done to solve that problem. And one
thing that when you understand how big this problem is
you have you realize that it can't be done incrementally.
It has to be done all at once. If Curtis
Jarvin was right about anything, he was right about the
fact that if this country was going to be taken back,
if the administrative state, the deep state, you know, whatever
you want to call it, was going to be taken down,
it would have had to be in the first two weeks.
Sam Hyde was right after Charlie kirkott shot. You had
two weeks, and Charlie kirk getting shot proved one thing,
and it should have proved one thing to everybody. When
you saw no response for that that MAGA died with
the whole idea or hope of MAGA died with Charlie
Kirk because apparently, for all of his flaws, and I
have many criticisms of the man and his policies, he
seemed to be keeping things focused, you know, and basically
keeping it from becoming what it has become. Apparently he
didn't want the bombing and Iran. Did he After the
Iran bombing? Did he? Did he say, you know, good
job the way it was done. Sure you're going to
do that. You're going to try and support your friends
and a lot of people are just going to root
for the home team even when they're wrong. But it
is undeniable. The change how basically clear. Since Charlie Kirk's death,
it has become that we live in Judeo America, and
anyone who can't see that, and anyone who can't see that,
everything that's being done right now to try and solve
the problems is just a band aid at most. I
don't know what to say to them. I don't know
what to say to them. Gold is forty five hundred dollars,
announced in silver is ninety dollars.
Speaker 4: So I know at to say to them during your
local chapter of the Old Glory Club, because they're the
only people who are going to give a shit whether
you get shot or not, because they are insane. Commedy,
do you think that these insane communists who are you know,
like exercising law enforcement. You know that they're they're they're
tailing people, they're interrogating people. You think that they're not
going to be like after you. You think that, oh
that's in Minneapolis, that's not in my city. Bullshit. There
are insane communists who think because they have the moral
self confidence, they have the moral self confidence to actually
say what I think is good is good, and the
people who are against me are bad. And conservatives want
to play fair and think that, oh well, they might
have a point, and we need to be fair on
both sides. No, Grenne Goode was bad, and the people
who supportive were bad are bad. And anybody that wants
to doesn't want to let America be America is a
bad person, and they'll they'll kill you dead for listening
to this show. Let alone what they want to do
to me or Jose or Pete or Charles. They want
us to die slow and painful, and I've seen them
talk about it. So take it seriously because no one
in power is going to because if they did, you'd
see changes.
Speaker 1: Anyone.
Speaker 5: Just briefly, I'm going to step back to you, Pete
saying that you hate the word cope, and I'll be
honest with you, I do too. I don't know if
we hate it for the same reasons, but I loathe it.
I loathe it. I want to try and keep this
cojin by using all of your, all of the men's
points here to kind of make a point. I loathe
the word because I think it's constantly misused. I think
what the real cope is. I think what I think
what cope is are the people that you've been battling
for some time, Pete, when you talk about you maybe
had some bad opinions, but you're trying to move past them,
get rid of them, get people back onto the right path.
You have the courage and the humility to admit error.
And I'd like to think all of us here do.
I'd like to think we do. I'd like to think
I do. But COPE to me is people that just
keep finding excuses. Cope to me is people that keep
living vicariously, getting win wins, air quotes through other people.
That's cope. Cope isn't saying, hey, we're going to have
to do this all or nothing one fell swoop. That's
not cope. That's talking about reality. Saying that, well, this
plan isn't going to work for X reason, so we
need to think of another one is not cope. Cope
is just making excuses. COPE is just pulling thin air reasons.
Cope is just moving the goalposts on the back of
a golf cart every time somebody rais is a good point.
That's what infuriates me about cope. Cope is, to put
it quite simply, in terms I think D might appreciate,
cope is failing to take things seriously. That's one thing
D that you said to me that turned my life
around from the self destructive path it was on. And
you did. You weren't even judging me or attacking me.
You were talking about yourself and how you were. And
I believe it was Thanksgiving dinner and you were surrounded
by adult men older than you, and you were the
only one that said, well, I guess somebody's got to
cut the turkey. Nobody's doing it. I'll get up and
do it. And you said something that changed my life.
You like, because I was the only serious adult in
the room. Everybody else was goof and all for doing
something or shirking responsibility. I was the only serious adult
and that changed my life in a breath. Be a
serious adult. Understand what time it is, Understand what is
at stake. You can give explanations, but do not give excuses.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm very flattered to hear that that meant so
much to you. And I want to say something to
both Peat and Jose that I've learned an immense amount
because both of them. Right after twenty twenty, he was like, Oh,
these people don't want to be free, they don't want
the responsibility of being free. They'll just sit in their
house and smoke weed because the government told him not
to go outside because someone caught the cold. You know,
Jose could have been Jose could have been in Congress
right now as the pro gun Hispanic guy in Texas
if he'd pushed hard and been like, I love America
and guns and I'm Hispanic and I'm not a communist.
Vote for me in Dallas, maybe either a chief of
staff or in Congress right now. No bullshit. The establishment
Republicans would have creamed their paints had the idea of
Jose Ninho pro American brown guy. But he didn't because
he had some self respect and realized that the only
people that are gonna like if they lie to you
about Jews, or they lie to you about the reality
of race, or they lie to you about women or
whatever cope you want, they're not going to tell you
the truth when the chips are down. They're lying to
you now when it's easy. What are you gonna do when,
just as a for instance, what happens when England defaults
because they don't have any money, and then all of
a sudden, the global financial system isn't absolute chip storm,
and all of a sudden people aren't getting paid. Do
you think that these people that you know, love love
America right alongside you. Do you think that they're going
to care about your kids are being hungry? No, they're not,
because it was all bullshit and they were trying to
They were trying to drift off of you from the beginning,
whether it's Nick Pointes or Steve Bannon or anybody else.
And that's I'm not speaking for anybody else here, but
whoever it is, that's not telling you the truth about
who this is for that we're living under Judeo occupied America.
The Zog is real, and it's the problem. Anyone not
telling you that is lying to you, and they're lying
to you for a reason because everybody knows it.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: There is no excuse to not know the truth about
ZOG now.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's kind of frustrating when you when
people who understand that it's not the man, it's the system.
It's how it's how it's been structured, the people that
are in it that are there for life, and how
they are there to work against your best interests and
how you can get your best friend can get elected
president and if he isn't going to cross the rubicon
immediately and keep going and seek to destroy all this
and say they're pro will we gonna kill me? But
at least I'm going to try to do it. And
they're not just going to wade in the river and
you know, throw a band aid here and a band
aid there, and a misdirection in Venezuela and a misdirection
in Iran. I mean, people knew this. People know this,
and they're allowing themselves to be taken in because you know,
not once in their life have they had a something
that seemed like a political win. We're gonna go. I
heard I heard my dad or my granddad talk about
how the com about the communist threat back in the day.
And I've been told that there was this communist down
down in South America and we went and we defeated
the communist woo. It's that pathetic. It's literally that pathetic.
When you if you step back, you examine the situation.
You look at Minneapolis, you look at Los Angeles, you
look at places in the Pacific Northwest. You look at
what's happening in Texas with just the invasion of Indians
in Texas. But sure you got your win, defeated that commie.
It's now I am sorry, I'm laughing at you. I'm
laughing at you because you fucking know better and you
got distracted and I wake the fuck up and come
back to reality.
Speaker 4: Well, how does how does this how does this coping
help you? You can spending time doing things like building
local networks. Spend all this time and energy that you
have following you know, whatever is happening on Twitter x
whatever the latest drama.
Speaker 1: That's where the war is being fought. Bro, we can
win it on Twitter. Chimp out, chimp out, chimp out.
That's the way we're going to beat them, chimp out.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, but also but also build local networks. Can
you call five guys to help me move a couch
if you can't solve that problem first, Like you know,
it's not difficult, this is this is who's who's going
to help you? If like we're not not necessarily a
fan of like cam Higbee, but like when he got
his car surrounded by communists and they soaked his windows.
You saw that? Like, Okay, who's gonna help him if
he has to shoot a bunch of people? Is do
you have a lawyer? On tanyer? Does he have money
for a lawyer? Do you have money for a lawyer?
Do you know a lawyer? Well, you're do you have
enough friends that everyone can chip in fifty bucks and
get you an attorney if you have to shoot somebody
who's like, you know, sees the way you drive your suv. Oh,
you can't drive a pro America car around here?
Speaker 1: You have?
Speaker 4: You have an American flagsticker in the back of your truck.
You're obviously a fascist gestapo boot you know, jack boot,
And I'm gonna surround you with you know, five crazy
women in pink hair, and they're gonna box you in
and stop your car. They're gonna tell you have to
remove that sticker in this neighborhood because we care about
our neighbors. Yah, you gonna deal with that? How are
you gonna deal with that? You should probably start thinking
about that instead of like, I don't know, can you
name the major you know drainage in Venezuela. Do you
know the river there that do you know do you
know the topography of Venezuela?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 4: Do you know anything about Venezuela? Can you even pronounce
it correctly? Like? Can you tell me who the first
president was? And I'm not an expert, but like, do
you anything what Greenland's you know? Where you do the whole?
Like do flexing with? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: Fire fireworks in like American flags? Gift? About Greenland? Do
you know anything about it? Do you know what fifty
thousand Eskimos will drink if they come to New York City?
Like everything? There won't be a shampoo bottle with alcohol
left in it in your little town. If the people
of Denmark are not Denmark of green will get moved here?
How's that gonna work out? But a Merca? Fuck? Yeah,
grow up, It's really not that difficult. I mean, I've
had to eat the fact that I was wrong by
the Iraq War for years and years, and I was
It was terrible, but I admitted I was wrong. Do
you think anyone listen to me now if I was well, yeah,
I was wrong about the Oh I was right about
the Iraq War. What No, it wasn't it was stupid,
It was wrong. It was evil. It's bad, and so
is this, and so it's every other world we've waged.
This is not. You know, we have a word at
home where some huge percentage of your a sensible fellow
Americans hate you and want you to die because you
think your kids should have a country or that you
should have kids.
Speaker 5: You know, to your point, d about do you know
anything about Greenland? Do you know anything about Venezuela? And
you throw the gift about you know America, the flag,
the eagle, all that. I'm going to piggyback off of
your point. Okay, what's your state capital? I'm not even
going to dig into America. What's your state capital? What's
the state bird?
Speaker 1: Do you know those?
Speaker 5: You know those two?
Speaker 4: Who's your state representative? Yeah, your state senator?
Speaker 2: Who's your city manager?
Speaker 3: Like, who's Yeah.
Speaker 2: Who's on the board of the county commission?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean I agree with you, Jose, and you're absolutely right.
The reason the reason I choose what I choose is
to say, I guarantee at least forty percent of people
won't even be able to know their state capital. You're
I mean, I agree with your point, Jose. I don't
want you to think I'm trying to undermine it. I'm
just starting out very easy and very small. What's your
state capital? What's the state bird? Do you know either
of those two? Because I know mine. Now that's not
to say I'm some kind of expert on the state
or some brilliant mind. But I mean, if I claim
to like this state because I live here, if I
claim that, if I have the five the to say
that it's one of the best moves I ever made
in my life was to move here is a perfect no.
But was it one of the best moves I ever
made in my life?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 5: Well, then I'm going to learn a little bit about
it because I like it. Well, if you love America,
why don't you try and learn a little bit about it.
How about paying a lot less attention to what goes
on outside of our border and a hell of a
lot more on what goes inside. So please, hose you
can go ahead. I just don't want you to feel
like I undermined your point.
Speaker 3: No, I just wanted to just stress how people need
to secure their neighborhood and just get their neighborhood in
order before they start going on like bigger project political projects.
But I want to also highlight another point that if
you're going to get into politics, you need to find
what your goals are and your what constitutes like a victory.
For example, you want an immigration moratorium, cool, how are
you going to get there? Who are you going to entrust,
what type of vehicle or you're going to use, what
organizations are going to use, and which representatives are going
to get behind, because if you pick the wrong vehicle
or whatever, you're just not gonna get there. No matter
how hard you try to rationalize your bad political behavior
and and how you're going to get to that final destination,
it's going to be like the hardest part you may
if you can't find people on the inside, you're gonna
probably have to take matters into your own hands and
start from scratch and building an organization from the bottom
up and finding like minded people because the time to
rely on relying on false profits has long past us,
and there's no reason to be embarking on a ship
that's going to take you on the wrong destination.
Speaker 1: Ultimately, yeah, it's people. I think we we have some people,
good people who are getting involved politically, especially at the
local level and everything. But yeah, they definitely need to
know what they're in for. I have a friend who
he's been uh local politician up in Indiana for a while,
and I mean he gets attacked. He's very he's extremely
right wing, and you know, he gets just massacred for
even talking about immigration in a red state. Yeah, I mean,
I know what you're getting into. I mean, the the
new governor, the new governor of Virginia. What the hell
is her name? You know? Yeah, she had Yeah, she
had her acceptance speech today. What was her What was
one of her main points fighting Trump's immigration policy?
Speaker 4: Her first executive order as governor was to repeal Youngin's
policy of allowing local law enforcement to cooperate with immigration enforcement.
So not even one hundred miles away from Washington in Richmond,
like literally across the river from Washington where most of
the people who live and work in Washington actually live
in Virginia, right, like literally across the street in Washington,
d C. To on Google Earth. Right now, Okay, the
Potomac is not even a mile across, less than a
mile from Washington, d C. You're in Virginia, in Arlington,
and the writ of the law does not run a mile,
you know, right outside of Arlington National Cemetery, the governor
of Virginia. But but, but the Civil War people were
Roberty Lee went his home, his family home that became
the national Cemetery. He was a trader. We need to
tear all his statues down. But Abigail Smamburger, No, she's
just a patriotic American. No, she's a isn't she Jewish?
She's not an American. Whatever she is doesn't matter. If
she's Jewish, your husband might be Jewish, doesn't matter. She's
not an American. Deal with that first before we're like,
we should invade Venezuela, or we should invade Brazil, or
we should let the Israelis burn down Patagonia, we should
invade Creenland, invade Baltimore, and then see how that goes,
and then get back to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that there's much more that we
can say on the subject. I've kept you guys long
enough on a Saturday night, and I appreciate y'all h
joining me, because you know, just the frustration is there
that people fall back into this because they like Trump,
or they know someone who works in the administration, or Yo, well,
I have a friend that talks to the administration. Okay, good, good,
good good. Those those administrative employees, they they are still there. Yeah,
they're still there. Okay, all right, well yeah he is
able to uh deport people without a judge stepping in. No, no, okay, okay, okay, okay, good, good, good.
Thank you. Appreciate that a lot of cope going on.
But yeah, I appreciate you guys getting with me and
adding and definitely adding to it because it's just me,
I just said here getting frustrated. So I'll go around
the horn. We'll start with start with Jose. Jose's got
a lot going on. Where can people find your work, Jose,
what do you want to plug?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: No, thank you so much Pete for having me on again.
And also it's great chatting with Dee and Charles as always.
But yeah, you find my work at Headline USA where
I'm an editor there and I write about some new
stuff there.
Speaker 2: And also I'm very active on my substack.
Speaker 3: Osanon Filtered with my articles and my podcast Alden You Speaks,
which can also be found on YouTube, Rumble, Odyssey, and Spotify.
And then yeah, I occasionally write for Occidental Observer and
if you would just want like my regular musings. I'm
on X slash, twitter at Jose al Nino, mister Spindel.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Pete as always, thank you very much for
having me. I greatly appreciate it. It's always good to
speak with you. Jose definitely d We speak plenty offline
and online, but you know, it's always a pleasure. I
don't have anything specific to plug. I've got a lot
going on personally, trying to get a lot of things
in order, a career change, et cetera. But I just
want to say that I can be found on X
at Whiskey and Ashes. I still have a book out there,
The Holistic Guide to Suicide If anybody has depression, suicide ideation,
anything like that, I do hope will help you get
past any trauma or difficult times. Other than that, God
bless everybody. Thank you for listening. I'll pass the Florida D.
Speaker 4: Mudd. Sorry, I am on a substack fundamental principle. I
have my own religious based show there, and I kind
of here here there are everywhere as I You're supposed
to speak on his show at some point, and uh,
you know, just thank you all very much for your
kind words and your following and please support the guys.
That's s important you know, by Charles's books, subscribe to
the different substacks. You know, kick Pete a few bucks
because everyone else is still lie to you and the
only thing, the only weapon you have is the truth.
So yeah, you know, premambing on the wall slash support.
I think I always get that wrong, but you know,
kick pet a few bucks because without him this wouldn't
be possible.
Speaker 1: Whoops, I was muted out that time. I appreciate that,
and I think I actually got a change to the
pekingonas show dot com now. But if there is a
forward slash something after that, I've totally forgot what it is.
But appreciate that. Appreciate all three of you, and until
the next time, Thank you very much.