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Speaker 1: Well, hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on,
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the
word about the Pirate Ship, and I appreciate all of you.
Today is gonna be a little bit different of a podcast.
I wasn't sure what was going on. I had some
family things happening, and this is Thanksgiving week. We're coming
up on two complete years of doing the podcast, and
I couldn't do it without guys like Kevin and Dan.
They have been there from the very beginning. I just
it wouldn't happen. Kevin was instrumental in naming the podcast
and encouraging me to go forward and try this venture,
because you know, it's it's I mean, as much as
podcasts have been around, it's still relatively new and not
proven to be lucrative, and you know, all these different things.
But I really am very, very very grateful to Kevin
and Dan, along with you know, our friends the Soldier
and Matt Reese will be on the next episode, and
of course Laura who's been in and Stephanie id who's
brought so much, and Katie who's been in here periodically,
and just everybody. And I can't tell you how much
it it just I don't even know if I have
the right words for it. I was gonna say, blows
my mind. That seems like a little bit of hyperbole,
but but how sometimes in awe I am of how
these things all just come together, and the people that
I've gotten to know because of the podcast, and you know,
you see who's you know I people always go, you
know who your friends are. These guys are brothers, you know,
especially Kevin and Dan, and so I thank them greatly.
But there's other people, right, We've got a Race and Randy,
and I thought tonight be kind of fun to talk
to Race and Randy and get to know him a
little bit. You've heard him on podcasts, maybe you've heard
him on the radio, but he there's a life, how
did it start, what's going on? What's in Randy's world?
And then Greg Connors is a regular contributor, has been
a dear, dear friend of mine for a long time
and has been a huge supporter of the podcast, And
so I thought it would also be fun to talk
to Greg about how did he get involved with the
Buffalo Bills and what was that that rolled that way,
and then also beyond that, just running the business and
work life balance. And like we hear the fun things
that Greg does. Right, he wants to have Bruno Mars
for his sixtieth birthday, and he you know, he's off
to and then up to see the Buffalo Bills play
in Seattle, and he'll go to every Super Bowl and
all that. But there's a lot more that goes into that,
and the work hours and the work ethic, and the
and the push and the ability to overcome obstacles and
keep on a path and see the bigger picture. And
so we'll talk to Greg about all that. And again
it just sort of a Thanksgiving and early Thanksgiving episode.
I want to thank you for being there and listening
to Billified. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate that.
It warms the cold cockles of my heart. We will
have our friend Race and Randy right after this. Cobblestone
on Maine at one on nine West Main Street in
the village of Webster. I happened to be in Webster yesterday.
I thought, you know what, let me go to Gobblestone
on Maine. I had a Guinness and the Putats sitting
at the bar, and it was kind of early in
the day on a Saturday. It's like four thirty five o'clock.
The place was comfortably filled up. I get the pow Toats, Housemaid,
tater Tots, Krispy bacon Yantes, cheese, Kurds, housemaid gravy, and
a couple sitting next to me said that looks so good.
We're ordering putts. I'm just saying, the shareables are amazing.
Everything there is amazing. It's Cobblestone on Maine one on
nine West Main Street in the village of Webster. I
haven't really paid much attention to Kiss, but Race and
Randy it's one of his absolute favorite bands, and I
thought this would be a little bit of a different
episode to one say thank you to people who have
been contributing for the almost two years that we've been
doing the podcast, and then also maybe to find out
a little bit of the stuff that we don't really
get to with Race and Randy. There he is, How
are your right?
Speaker 3: Let me turn on today?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well? Is this uh? That that song one
of your favorites or no, it's.
Speaker 4: One of them. I like all Kiss songs. One of
my favorites is Detroit Rock City. Okay, it's probably one
of my favorites.
Speaker 1: So Randy, I think you know we were. I met
Randy through radio a number of years ago when there
was a collector's thing going on and somebody was picking
on people who did collections and Randy called up to
defend and there was just something about Randy and we
went out made a video about all his what do
you have, die.
Speaker 4: Cast die cass and you know, I got some little
hoods and most of you, you know, by the time
what you saw was probably around, you know, about four
or five hundred pieces.
Speaker 3: So and I go way more than that.
Speaker 1: Here's my question, Race, And Randy has been around cars
and worked on cars since he popped out of the womb.
But your dad worked at Kodaks. Well, where did this
love of cars come from for you?
Speaker 4: Well, my dad was My dad worked on cars first,
he worked on cars, fors, and he worked on tractors
and stuff. He built his own stuff. I mean he
worked on cars when he was he lived on a farm,
all farmers and they fixed all their own stuff, right,
so he had to do that. He actually had a
fifty five Chevy that he got from my aunt. It
was automatic, and he actually turned it into a four speed,
made his own clutch system up and everything. In fact,
the car had to rusted floorboards. He put those SNAH
green stamp signs and to fix the floors back then,
you know. And he said that wud last forever. But
in fact he traded that car in bought another one.
The guy broke the towuch, the guy the garage. He
had to call my dad to come over and he
could fix and throw them how to fix it. They
can drive it again.
Speaker 1: So your dad knew all that stuff just on his own.
Speaker 3: Yes he did. He grew up a farm boy, had
to fix.
Speaker 1: Stuff, right, a farm boy? Did you ever you said
the green something signs? What what what do you mean?
Speaker 4: SNH green stamp signs? You remember those SNH green stamps.
He used to get those who used to buy stuff.
You save all these stamps ups. And he used to
have a store in Geneva. You could take all those
staff you went over to Geneva, traded men. You could
get all you could get all you name it you
could get. He could I got a basketball must My
mom used to get silver aware, you know, mixing machines,
all kinds of stuff you could get in the catalog.
That was pretty cool. That was I'm talking back in
the sixty fuddy.
Speaker 1: Okay, because I was thinking like when the floorboards went out,
I remember people taking road signs and either welding that
or bolting it into parts of the of the floor
that was still there in the car.
Speaker 3: Same thing.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. That's what I thought. Okay, I
just did. I just wasn't familiar. But I mean, when
did you start doing a little wrenching? Did you pop?
Speaker 4: Like I rent through my dad at home, you know,
when we had snowmobiles because he had garden tractors. He
did car He worked on cars at the house. He
hit a Dodge pick up. He put a Chevrolet motor
and transmission, and I swapped that over from a different thing.
You know, all handmade, built the fricking motor mounts and
all that to make it work, made the shiffling.
Speaker 3: It's worked to the Dodge. You know. He did all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: So I learned that all from him, and my and
my uncles and my dad were written the cars and
my dad's buddies were in the cars. So it didn't
take much for me get me to get interested in
My uncle Larry, who lives in Georgia. He must have
had every single hot rad magazine that I could think of,
and hot riding and hot rode and I used to
read every single one he had, you know, all drag
race and all that stuff. So you know, an they
al race when they were younger. So that's where I
got it from.
Speaker 1: Well it's funny because you know, sometimes you get it
by osmosis. But how many times do we seem where
a father may be into something and the kid goes
a completely different path. But that's kind of cool. Were
you working on cars, let's say it like I don't know, well,
i'll give you a reasonable age, like eight or nine.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, we're going on working on snowobills and everything.
But my dad built his doom buggy. My dad built
that's a handbuilt doom buggie. He's got okay, you know,
with all steel bodied and you know, and all that
stuff out of Volkswagen Chansis that was shortened and all
that stuff. So I learned a lot from him, and
he was a little different because a lot of them
guys have built doom buggies back that didn't put fenders
on his his four full vendors running boards, and the
host smash all made out of metal.
Speaker 1: So, Mike, I guess my question then to you, pardon me,
I always tell people to turn off your phone, and
I didn't follow my own instructions. My question to you then,
is is that a lost art being able to work
on your own car?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely a lost art. And let me tell
you something right now, the automotive industry is in trouble.
They are losing technicians left and right, and nobody wants
to do this. I mean, you start to pay sucks
to start. I started working on cars at three sixty
five an hour, That's what I was getting paid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and I had to buy tools.
Speaker 4: And you're spending twenty percent of your paycheck every week
minimum on tools. And you're gonna spend that money. You're
gonna up with sixty two hundred thousand dollars the tools
if you stay in it. I mean, I can't tell
how many screwdrivers I've lost in the last forty five years,
and how many sockets and wrenches and lights I've broke,
and you know, I just it's a never, never winning
battle on it. But I mean my grandson is doing it.
He wants to go to post you become a Tian.
I kind of trying to tell them, Okay, no products
going to do it, but do me a fair or
get into a maintenance place like Wegman's or a factory,
do some maintenance stuff because it'll be a whole lot easier.
Speaker 3: And working on cars, well, cars, I.
Speaker 1: Love cars myself. I don't certainly love them to the
extent that you do, but they're not easy for people
to work on themselves. You know, you talked about your
dad always working on cars. I knew farmers. I had,
you know, worked on sporadically on farms, mostly on Heyday
or something. I was up in the hot hayloft trying
to get him off the conveyor belt and stack him
before the next one came. But those guys could all
fix tractors and things. And now it seems like the
cars are designed and then the engineers told, you've got
this much space whatever that is to put a motor
in it or an engine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, was my dad.
Speaker 4: He opens a hood in his car now that he
just shuts the hood and closes so he don't even
look at it. Anymore, you know, And he drive my
firelights GM via go. Nothing against that. My kids drive forwards,
you know what. I drive Fords because I work on
Fords for a living. That's why they drive forwards, because
I can fix.
Speaker 1: Them, you know.
Speaker 4: But like I say, my dad's got a problem with
you even I got friends of mine that have problems
if I can't fix it, if I know somebody works
than GMS, like call a buddy man, Hey, can you
help me out with this for you know, so I
know people working other you know, other car companies. So
I've been lucky to get some help from that way.
And it's not easy. I don't care anybody says. You
can watch videos on YouTube about technicians leaving the business.
People come in, they might work two three years. Say hell,
what I know guys that lasted less than a year,
you know. I mean I got a guy that I
worked with. He was in, he graduated, went to all
the technical schools, all that stuff. Worked with me at
friendly Ford. He worked there for about a year and
a half, two years maybe, and he got a job
with the Dot and Auburn.
Speaker 3: I don't blame him goodbye.
Speaker 4: I have a good time, you know, because you just
didn't want to work on cars all the time anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I But is it harder today because of
the technology.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all the electronics and the vehicles with the modules
and wiring.
Speaker 3: I mean you could have one wire break and it
could affect four or five six modules in a car
where one wire breaks and all these all of a sudden,
these modules don't can't talk to each other and stuff
doesn't work, and then you got to trace that down.
Speaker 4: And believe me, modules are a great thing because if
you didn't have modules, you'd have way more wiring in
a car than if you didn't. That's why they put
modules together to send this stuff. And I'll take it up.
But I mean, I mean I've had one. Bill, I
had one with a van of the people these lights
wouldn't work an inside their car. You get in the
car and with a dome light was shut off. Well,
we chased and chased, couldn't find it, couldn't figure it out.
And then I happened to be working on it and
a buddy might come over and leaned over in the
passenger seat and all a sudden, lights went out. And what
it was is the wire was right on the end
of the seat track where it was pulled to the
floor and when you sat on it would pinch the
wire and cut the wire and it wouldn't work. So
they got off the seat the lights came back on.
So it took me a day to finance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but some of that stuff is really just trial
and error.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just got to chase it down. That's the problem.
You might find it.
Speaker 4: You might get like some wearing primes, you get real
lucky you see a corroded wire. You know, you might
find a ground warrior loose something simple. But a lot
of times you got to know you might start winning
the car. It might be in the back half of
the car where you find your problem.
Speaker 1: How much training do you get throughout the year? Do
you have to do? A lot of puts out?
Speaker 4: Ford puts out things. We have to train on the computer.
You still go to school and Buffalo I haven't gone
to school in Buffalo in quite a few years, but
back in my early in my career, for like in
the eighties, I was going to school at least once
a month for a long time. And there's a lot
of schools, but they don't do a lot. They don't
do as much hands on as they used to.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: Ford is doing a little bit more, but for a
few years they didn't do a lot of hands on.
Like every transmission they came out when you went to Buffalo,
learned how to take it apart, put a bit together,
how to measure stuff. Uh some of that stuff. They
do some of it, but they don't do You just
try to figure it out. You got to look at
a video, and you watch a video and then you
don't go from there. I'm smart guy. I try to
take a manual with me, so if I got stuck
on something, I can just look at the manual real quick.
But then you have to look at it, take it apart.
And when you look at it and see how it
was before you take it apart, and then you can
put it back the same way. Yeah, it's not easy.
I mean there's so many different things now it.
Speaker 1: Looks it looks crazy to me, Like you open that
hoot up and I don't even know where you would begin.
Back in the day, could you work on a GM car,
a Ford car.
Speaker 3: Well, you work on everything.
Speaker 4: It's over easy and man, back in the days, I
mean back in the seventies, eighties and nineties and up
to like the early twenty two thousands. It was no
big deal. It wasn't that bad. I mean, but you're
not like no, I mean, I christ, I remember doing
tuneups all the time. Yeah, tune ups, tune ups. Heck,
I haven't done a complete tune up, I bet you
in fifteen.
Speaker 3: Years on a car. Yeah, And why because they just
don't do them anymore.
Speaker 1: Right, and the engines, the engines run.
Speaker 3: Better, well they say they do.
Speaker 4: And then they tell you, you know, we got these hundred
thousand miles spark plugs and you go take a plug
out one hundred and two thousand miles and it breaks
off in the cylinder head. And if you don't have
a warranty and that that eighty dollars tune up job
just became four thousand dollars. Oh, it's just, you know,
it all depends on what the problem is. I mean,
it's there's pros and cons to everything.
Speaker 1: Buddy, Wow, yeah I did that. I didn't realize it
at all. Take me back, because you have a love
of racing, and I know that we talked to you
about NASCAR, but I feel like, and maybe I'm incorrect,
your first love is drag racing.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm actually they're both hand in hand. I like
both of them, and I followed them both since the sixties.
And say, the first NASCAR race I remember watching was
sitting on my dad's lap in nineteen sixty four when
Wide World of Sports had black and white and showed
pops of that race. Richard Petty won the race, and
I heard that name and he was become NASCAR. And
then back in the sixties, I followed you know, Grumpy Jenkins,
Socks and Martin, you know, Don Perdome, Connie Kalida, all
those guys back in the sixties, and just found all
those drag racing careers. And I read all those magazines,
every sock car, popular, hot rouding, hot rode, you name it.
Speaker 3: I read them all.
Speaker 4: I even read Kimmer was in one of the Popular Science.
I used to read that when Popular Mechanics. I used
to read that one all the time. You had all
that stuff in it.
Speaker 1: But you were a great athlete in school.
Speaker 4: I was a good athlete. I played baseball, I ran track,
I played soccer. Yeah, you know, I did all that,
and I broke my leg. Broke my leg my freshman
year playing soccer. Okay, and I wanted a car. Of course,
course I'm a gearhead and I wanted a car, and
parents told me, you want a car, you're gonna have
to work for it. So I gave up sports right
down and there and went to work so I could
buy a car.
Speaker 1: And did was there And I bring up the sports thing,
because how many kids like Even watching the World Series
this year was sort of exciting because we have a
tie game late in the game, right, and then the
guy hits a Grand Slam for the Dodgers and it's
one of these where every kid, I mean, it was
almost that backyard play, right, every kid, you know, here
it is the bottom of the ninth, you know, blast up,
bases loaded, two strikes, three balls, here we go, boom right,
full count and uh it wasn't a full count for
this guy, but he blasted out, and I go. Every
kid always wanted to be the baseball hero, the basketball
hero or whatever. Did you want to be a race
car driver or a.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I wanted to be a risk card driver
all the time.
Speaker 4: But like my father tried, my god, say, my dad
tried to just not let me do it.
Speaker 3: He really didn't want me to do it.
Speaker 4: I don't know why, just because of whatever, but but
I had some pretty fast cars in my life. Believe me,
I picked the fastest I ever had. Fastest I ever
had my own car was one hundred and sixty two,
and the faster that ever went to Dray car was
one hundred and eighty six.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wait, so where did you do one hundred and
sixty two? Just on a regular street.
Speaker 3: Down route down Route eighty eight, headed towards Sodas on
a big, long flat stretch and you got it? Actually
went by. I went by a trooper car doing.
Speaker 4: That fast, and and he followed me to soda, said lucky.
It was the guy that I knew because I used
to work at a grid for Bernie Pratt and we
used to work on the trooper car, so they all
knew me. They told me just to slow down, will
you please a little bit? Other need I probably still
be in jail.
Speaker 1: Did you ask him? Did you ask him if he
actually got it on radar so you could have an
official tie.
Speaker 3: Oh, they told me how fast I was going.
Speaker 1: They did.
Speaker 4: My speedometer buried at a hundred and forty. I had
an O State Trooper car. It was one of the
chase cars from the throughway it would go. It was
a three hundred and four hundred horsepower with the lowest
gearing you could get like two seventy three. So I
mean take off was terrible, but wide opening a mile
the road. Get out of my way, and I'm coming
by and take your doors with me. I actually reached.
I rached a guy with a chevelle back from Sodas
one time. We stood Sodas the tea in the eighty
Eco was already to the Sodas and we raceedly. He started,
I started a to tee. I gave him a mile
head started on me.
Speaker 1: Okay, I passed.
Speaker 4: Him in Farreville. It took took his doors off when
I went by him. Wow did on the way back
to NewYork?
Speaker 1: Was there any money? Bet?
Speaker 3: Oh? No?
Speaker 4: I just thought he could beat me. I said, okay,
if you're ready, let's go. As I told him, you
want drag race kordermile. You got me all over the place.
I said, you want to race back to town, let's go.
And my buddy, how he was with me when we
went by him, is there?
Speaker 1: Like? Here's the thing is like I always loved that
I grew up in a rural area. I love speeding
those back things. They're practically car paths where I grew up. Sometimes,
but I go, oh, way, how dangerous that is because
if another cars coming. And that's why as an older
guy now, I always go keep the race into the
race track or to a closed road or somewhere where
you're not going to injure innocent people. But that had
to be Randy. The biggest thrill to beat that guy
after you gave him a mile ahead start post.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean
I eighteen nineteen years old. I don't give a shit.
I mean now, not not that way. Absolutely. Now.
Speaker 4: I did do a couple of few years ago when
we we had a thing, a charity thing out to
the racetrack. I actually got a Dodge hell Cat from
the dealership. The first one I drove and I said, oh,
the fastest thing over. I got up to one hundred
and forty seven and I was running out of road,
so I forgot I'd better slow down. Yeah, old, but
that's that's the last time I've gone that fast. But
that I mean, as I've gotten older, I don't drive
like that. I want to, boy do I want to him,
I get behind one of them cars, you know, but
I also have to remember it's.
Speaker 3: Not my car. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, oh, I
got to be careful, have you But it's fun.
Speaker 1: You never even wanted to get into like the you're
a big supporter of even the dirt track racing. You
never did you ever do that?
Speaker 3: Ye know, we thought.
Speaker 4: About doing it, being Andy and my buddy Billy thought
about doing it a few years ago. But it's just
at the time. But what even no matter what, racing
is expensive, even if you're doing it. I mean, those
guys that are living off leaving it all there eating
it's blowney sad, which has even got any blown He
put it in the bread, you know, and the race sometimes,
And to me, it wasn't worth me going broke and
not being able to do other things just to do that.
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: If I really wanted to, I would have, but also
didn't have my didn't have my dad behind me at
the time. Now he's all behind me and all, but
at the time he didn't, and I think he was
just trying to keep me sane and keep me safe
because yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd love
to drive fast, and I had no problem with it.
Speaker 1: So right, how about your kids they gear heads as well.
Speaker 4: No, no, I neither one of them. No, they're Robert
works for ups. Uh, he works for you. Brett is
a manager for five guys Burgers and Friser and both
doing very well.
Speaker 3: They're not really the car guys.
Speaker 4: So they did both get stopped on the same time
at the same place at the same time, but the
state troopers because they were racing home from somewhere in
their cars and they were both speeding and they both
got stopped.
Speaker 3: So they both got speed tickets.
Speaker 4: So they go to the court, right, the first one
goes up, then he calls up the other one. He
looks at me, he says that you twoe brothers, and
they both said, yeah, we are. He says the figures
he said they were doing like they were doing like
eighty five, eighty seven and fifty five or something like that.
Speaker 1: That's that's an expensive ticket.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, so they of course you know.
I did.
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, I did drive below faster with
them sometimes. I mean I had plenty of cars that
went fast enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was your favorite car that you've owned? Over
the years.
Speaker 4: My favorite card own was my seventy three Duster. I
had seventy three to three fourth Duster I had. That
was my favorite car.
Speaker 1: Did you were you were you ever able to sell
one of your cars for more than you bought it
after all the war? Oh?
Speaker 3: Hell no?
Speaker 4: No, no, okay no no, I just in factually the
Duster was pretty war out when I got rid of it.
I actually I had blown the motor up in it,
and the rebuild that motor was going to be eight
nine grand for the parts that I hit in it.
And I said, you know what, I had a family,
two boys, I said, I think I sold the car
for four hundred dollars just to get rid of it. Wow,
you know I wasn't going to have time to do
anything with it. I just didn't have the time or
the money. Right, there's a young family and that with
that was more important than having that.
Speaker 3: Now, if I'd have.
Speaker 4: Had the money, well yeah, why do I get out
of my way? We'd be wrenching the old man's garage,
taking that maybe a barn. He'd have been right there
with me.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you have a garage, don't you, with a
lift and everything. Ye a guy.
Speaker 4: You know my dad, Well, his dad's got the barn.
We had to barn, but the lift went bad and
he's never replaced it. So like, I can still work
on cars then put it up on a jack stands
that jack doesn't bother me. You know, I'm I'm older now.
It doug takes me no longer up off the ground now,
but I can still do it. You know, it's not
always fun, but and I don't do a lot of
side work. And really, now, if I want to work
on my own cars, I take him to the shop,
put him.
Speaker 3: On the lift. Yeah, you know, I've got to be
that way.
Speaker 4: So it's it's you know, it's half one doesn't if
I hit my own shop left, I probably would never
go to work. So I probably do enough work in
my house.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think that he probably could absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah. What about I used to make a ton of
money on the side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the like NASCAR dreams? In a way,
I mean, I thought there was an opportunity somewhere along.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was an opportunity that I lost out on
a few years ago. I had a chance to go
and the first time I had a.
Speaker 3: Chance to go.
Speaker 4: I was going to go and had all set to
go down and my ex wife didn't want to move
at the time, gotcha. So I wasn't gonna go down
there by myself, so.
Speaker 3: I didn't go.
Speaker 4: And two years later they got a chance to get
a job offer and she said, okay, let's go, and
then the job offer was gone. So it got it
got pulled out from underneath me, which is hey, and
it happened. It is what it is, you know, right.
So my my biggest deal I a should have did.
When I was down seeing my uncle and my uncle
Larry and his wife down in Georgia back in nineteen eighty,
he told me I could move down there with him.
If I wanted to, I would have gone from there
and have gone somehow got I would have gone to
Petty's Richard Petty's garage and tried to get a job,
because back then you could get a job in NASCAR
no problem.
Speaker 3: Now you got to know somebody. You've got to be specialized.
Speaker 4: You've almost got to be an engineer, and you've got
to be a good engineer, you know, and you got
to be really smart, and it helps you work down
race cars.
Speaker 3: Your whole life. You know, if you started racing and
work stuff up, you could learn some of that stuff.
You know, it helps.
Speaker 4: I'm remember back in the nineties they were looking for
guys you could just chance he's a big time in NASCAR.
If you could, you could figure out suspended the chance
you work you hit an in you know. But it's
just I just I was never there at the right time.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you know, as you look towards maybe uh
putting the rents down as as a job, would you
ever consider what what's next for Randy? Like, you're not
a guy to sit still.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say I'm going to retire, but I'm
not going to be a sit down retire I can
tell you that I'm going to be. I'll be too busy.
I'll be finding this same if I got a part
time do something, I don't care. I mean, it doesn't
make it diffs.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I help run Butler drag away. Ye, so that keep
that keeps him busy a long times, you know. And
you know, and I got grin, I got grandkids. But
are not gonna I'm not gonna have a time to
sit out When I got eleven grand kids. I'm gonna
get know what time to sit on you kidding me?
Speaker 6: The eleven of them, eleven of them, you know, So
I'm gonna be busy and it just and you know,
and my father last where he's eighty was still working
full time, buddy, Yeah, eighty one is still working full time.
Speaker 1: Yeah what is he? Know? So because he wants to
yeah what what what does he do?
Speaker 3: He worked at Haligan Furniture. He's been there for sixty
three years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, don't there you go.
Speaker 3: He's a big card nut. But he's a card nutt too.
Speaker 4: He's so oh he's owing to some fast hot for
dot routes back in the sixties. Well he's throwing them
aw Mustang's to Renos you named. He's owing a whole
bunch of them cars.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And Tracy picked her favorite.
Speaker 4: One was the Terino with the four twenty nine and
it was Tracy's favorite and she cried when he sold it.
Speaker 3: Really, Oh yeah, we used to you know back then.
Truthfully he usedaid. He used to trade every year and
a year and a halfye trade cars.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, sure that's what you do, Randy. Thanksgivings coming
up that We're very grateful that you join us on
the podcast when you can and when we uh, whenever
we call, you always answer.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: What are the Thanksgiving plans for the Seleerno crew.
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 4: I got figure out. I got more invitations to go
some places. I don't know what we're gonna do for
sure yet, but okay, but don't worry. I will get
very well fed. Don't worry about that.
Speaker 1: Yes, is there a favorite Thanksgiving dish that you hope
is on the table when you hit to wherever you're going.
Speaker 4: My mom makes this phenomenal thing with cheese, broccoli and
color flower.
Speaker 3: That's phenomenal. I love it.
Speaker 1: Okay, now stamp back my favorite cheese broccoli and colieflower.
That is a Yeah, that's a combustion engine. When you're done.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, you might might be near me for a
few hours. About three hours later, I want to be
around me.
Speaker 1: I would say, stand back, stand back, leave.
Speaker 3: If I put that in my guest thank you know
in mind, I would get a hold.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Randy, I just wanted to say thank you.
It's been almost two years that we've been doing the podcast,
and it's you know, thanks to people like you that
have kept us going and I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Oh, just let you know I am headed to me
and Dave and Brody there. Yeah, we're headed to Rockingham
Speedway the weekend of the.
Speaker 3: Fifth, sixth, seventh. We're headed down there for Digger Die.
It's the.
Speaker 4: No Prep Race, Small Tire, Big Tire Race. We're headed
down there, first term, first weekend there in December. We're
going to go check that OUTU. I'm probably gonna shoot
a little bit of film for the show.
Speaker 1: Awesome. That's great. Well, I'm excited to hear that and
keep us posting and all that stuff. And we'll be
talking to you real soon.
Speaker 4: All right, Buddy, Daytona's only about eighty some days away.
Speaker 1: But give the advent calendar. Isn't just for Christmas, it's
for Daytona. Randy, Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Speaker 3: All right, buddy, save it to you.
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks, buddy, you got it, man.
Speaker 3: See you.
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can't remember if it's the fifty nine on the sixtieth birthday,
but Greg Connors is saying that he's gonna have Bruno
Wallers for a party, and I just want to make sure.
I don't even care if I have to be part
of the road crew. I just want to see this,
this absolute party. Let me bring on Greg. You know, Greg,
I thought in this episode would be kind of fun.
By the way, this song is perfect. Whoever he wrote
it about must have melted like when you see it, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's he's so much fun. And
it's the sixty.
Speaker 1: Yet, oh it is gonna be the sixth day.
Speaker 5: Okay, if I make it to my sixtieth birthday, I'm
just gonna blow all of my all my money, my
kids love, no inheritance.
Speaker 3: We're just gonna do a Bruno Mars benefit. Councer.
Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to have people on because we're coming
up on the second anniversary of the podcast, and certainly
there's lots of people to thank along the way. But
I thought you were somebody that we have on frequently.
We know about things about you, We've done one on
ones with you and things. But I thought this would
be a fun way to just ask you a couple
of things that maybe we don't really know. One being
your love of the Buffalo Bills that has turned into
a partnership with the Buffalo Bills and training camp and
how that kind of came about. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Actually, I mean it's an interesting story is that when
I was on the board of directors for the Hunters Hope,
which is Jim and Jim Jim Kelly and Jill Kelly's
foundation for the son.
Speaker 3: And when I was going back and forth to a.
Speaker 5: Bunch of meetings and Jim said to me at one
of the meetings, he said, look, why don't you just
open up an office out here?
Speaker 3: You're here so much. And I thought to myself, you know,
I should maybe look into that.
Speaker 5: And Jim was like, there's nobody out here that does
what you do, and he goes, I think, I think
it'd be great. So I wrote a business plan and
it worked out, and he goes, but there's one thing.
You open the office. You got to partner with the
Bills I'll make a connection. I'll introduce you to the
guys who needed to be introduced to and and he did.
And it started off small, started off really just with
some minimal assets. It was some training camp participation. It
was just us actually getting access to training camp. We
weren't a partner or a sponsor of training camp, but
all the time, and then we had some in stadium signage.
Speaker 3: That would be there, and from there it just kind
of grew.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: They were they've been great partners.
Speaker 5: They've adapted to the different strategies that we tried to
utilize in our partnership. And uh and then and that
was under the Wilson family got to meet Ralph and
his wife Mary Uh and her niece Mary Owen, who
kind of was part of the day to day management
side of things for Ralph. And there they were just wonderful,
gracious people. And then after Ralph passed away, the Pagulas
came over. We were the training camp parties. Betime, the
Pagulas bought the team. And funny story about that is
I was at training camp and Kim made reference. After
I met Kim, she made reference. I said, I was
from porn now and she said oh geez. My parents
lived in Artport for a while and I was like,
no kid, and I'm like, you know, I'm from you know,
I grew up down there. My mom sold real estate.
My dad's in the hospital. And she's like, oh my gosh,
what's your mom's name? And I like Tony Connor. She's like,
I think my mom sold my parents their house.
Speaker 3: In Artport.
Speaker 1: And she did connection and then.
Speaker 5: From there, you know, her parents were like camp I
met then, and then you know, Kim and I had
that connection, and Kim's just she's a lovely, wonderful person
and and so it's really going to blossom from there.
Speaker 1: It's a yeah, it's a great partnership that I always
joke that Greg is gonna be the future owner of
the Buffalo Bills. But I wouldn't put it past you.
That's the thing. I don't mean that in any insulting way,
like you think you're the older I really believe that
you're the kind of guy with the drive, and I
think that's the other side of you that people don't
really see. Right. We love having you on the podcast,
and we hear about you went to the Buffalo Bills games.
You've taken us to Buffalo Bills games, you flew out
west to see them in Seattle, You've gone to the
Super Bowls. You know, all that stuff sounds really exciting now.
I mean, there isn't anybody who listens to that goes, God, man,
what a life. But the other side of that is
you're working. You've got multiple offices in multiple cities that
you're trying, you know, I mean the amount of work
that goes to get there, to me is uh, I
think sometimes overlooked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it depends on how you talk to
They'll tell you twenty four to seven. You know, it's
in anything that you do in.
Speaker 5: Life, it's really what you put into is what you
get out of it. And for me, you know, I
try to incorporate my family. It's everything that I do,
so it makes it a little more tolerable, but you know,
it's it's you know, a Friday night to me is
no different than a Tuesday night. There's still things that
have to get done, there's still responsibilities. But it's the
little things in any business that make the biggest differences.
And so those are the things I obviously try to
focus on and those things take time. But for me
to get to the point I want to get to
Bill so I can I can make that dream of
mind become a reality.
Speaker 3: It's really looking and.
Speaker 5: Investing in other opportunities, right, and different things that can
help grow a business.
Speaker 3: And then my interests.
Speaker 5: And you know, you never know it's anybody that's out there,
you know, opportunities. You create your own opportunity, and it's
the network and it's the network and the connections.
Speaker 3: That you get that helps you grow. I don't want
to say influence, but opportunities, you know.
Speaker 5: And just the story about from meeting Jim because I
went to a fundraising benefit where I didn't know Jim.
I went with a friend and then I got to
meet Jim and then that relationship and friendship grew to
the point where I partner with the Bills to get
to meet mister and Missus Wilson and then Kim. I mean,
it's all about creating those connections and then people seeing
the passion, seeing your interest and then trusting you that
you're going to do the right thing for them, and
you do the right thing for them and they do
the right thing for you, and then it becomes great partnerships.
Speaker 1: Fear is such a thing that holds people back from
opportunities and things. Some people, the moment's almost too big.
Here's Jim Kelly, h you know, pro football Hall of
Famer standing in front of me, taking the team I
love to four super Bowls in a row. Nobody has
ever done that, right, nobody's right, four in a row. Yeah,
and it's amazing that sometimes that may be overwhelming. How
how is it that you take it and become buddies
with the guy? You see what I'm saying that that,
to me is the difference.
Speaker 5: Well, one of the things is, and I tell the
story to anybody to listen.
Speaker 3: I was not a big Jim Kelly fan.
Speaker 5: I've told Jim this, and I've told I've told this
through before in public even and Jim just shakes his head.
My favorite Buffalo Bill is Steve Tasker. Right, My father's favorite.
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bill was Jim Kelly.
Speaker 5: You know, Irish quarterback, small town kid, you know everything.
You know, his mom was the matriarch, and you know
every thing that my dad was used to as a kid.
Jim reflect and represented and then he took his favorite
team from you know, the bottom of the barrel up
to FOURTHT rate Super Bowl. So Jim was my dad's
favorite Bill. But one of the things that I learned,
one of things that that with Jim is is that
I respected Jim and I liked Jim, but I wasn't
necessarily in awe over him where I would get tongue tied.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: And then he started I told the story about, you know,
Steve Tasker is my favorite Bill and Jim's a ballbuster, right,
I mean, Jim's a smart ass, and he was like, yeah,
any any Bills fan under six foot Tasker.
Speaker 3: Is their favorite player?
Speaker 1: Why what game was on? Why was Tasker your favorite player?
For the grit and the grind and.
Speaker 3: The because he was under six plus?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I always wanted to go to the NFL.
My dream was to play in the NFL, and uh,
and Tasker was the guy. You know, he was five ten,
five eleven, he ran.
Speaker 3: Four four forty.
Speaker 5: He got passed over in terms of being at Northwestern,
but made the.
Speaker 3: Team, you know, and just kind of founded niche and
found his.
Speaker 5: Way to be there and and so kind of was
that grit in that that that path to the NFL
was an unorthodox one that I was like look, if
I'm gonna make it, this is the.
Speaker 3: Guy I got to model myself after. You know, I
was not a six.
Speaker 5: Foot two stud, big time powerful middle linebacker slash quarterback,
and that was who Jim was. So I could I
could relate to Steve more than I could the gym
at that point in my life.
Speaker 1: Sure that makes a lot of sense. What is a
typical day like for you? Greg? And when you're talking
about you know you do have your hands and other
businesses outside of Connors and Farris and things. How do
you find time in? I think the buzzword is, uh,
time management. I don't know if that's the buzzword or balance. Right,
everybody's looking for the work life balance, and I think
it just doesn't exist. You're either all in or you know,
I don't have.
Speaker 5: I don't have work life balance. I'm not very good
at it. And the work life balance for me kind
of went out of whack as soon as I became
a lawyer, started working. I had I had one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars in law in school debt between
Elford and Ohio Northern. My my monthly loan payment was
more than I was making a month and so you
had to be hungry and you had to get out
there and work and prove yourself and from that point forward,
and would that extra work with the with that grip
for me and that preparation which I learned a lot
of that through playing football, you know g Mass and
down in Hornell and then playing it at Alford. Is
that what it takes to be successful. And it's about
doing every little the little thing. It's about doing everything
everybody else does and then a little bit more than
the person who you think you're competing against.
Speaker 3: That's how you get ahead. And so for me work
life balance.
Speaker 5: I mean, you could ask you Jenny from twenty years
ago and she'd say, yeah, Greg's biggest challenge is work
life balance. You know, you could ask you Jennifer right
now and she'd say, yeah, Greg's biggest challenges is work
like balance.
Speaker 3: Now you're laughing because of the names, but.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not laughing because of the names. I know
the people, but I'm just saying that it's you know,
it's a tough thing because when you hear that, most
of that's coming from a Hey, I want to spend
time with you, I want to have life with you.
And you know, all this stuff's going on. But I
always feel like if I don't know that there is
a work life balance. But you certainly have seemed to
incorporate the love of what you love to do, the
things you're passionate about, and your family and friends, and
you kind of brought that all together. And you're very
you know, you're gregarious and fun and energetic, and everything's
I would say, very positive.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 5: You know from my parents is you know, rather learned
from my parents it was always about family, right. We
would do things and it was always my aunts, my uncles,
my cousins, it was, you know, my family. We were
always together, and so you know, from from starting a family,
I just brought the boys with me. I mean we
would go to Hunter's Hope fundraising events and Will and
Luke would be with me.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean I'm jokingly, not jokingly, this is
the truth.
Speaker 5: But you know.
Speaker 3: Will was born like six seven weeks early. He's in
the nick unit. He comes out.
Speaker 5: He was two pounds thirteen ounces at birth. He gets
out of the hospital, he's four pounds. Two weeks later.
I took him to a Buffalo Bills game. It was
his first Bills game. He was eight weeks old, and
he's been every home opener since.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I did get clearance.
Speaker 5: For all the moms out there saying Greg did not
why would he ever think of taking his premi eight
week old baby to a football game. We went to
the doctor, we got the first checked up by asked
me would be okay?
Speaker 3: He did clear it. But for me is that I
didn't want to stop living my life and pursuing my goals.
So I've always tried to.
Speaker 5: Include my family and my friends in everything that I
do because who better to share those experiences with than them,
And they're my biggest cheerleaders. They give me the energy
to keep doing what I'm doing, and they have the
vision to kind of do.
Speaker 3: More and to grow.
Speaker 5: And so for me, that's the best way that I
can keep myself going and capture that energy.
Speaker 3: And there's nothing better than being around good people.
Speaker 5: And I'm blessed and fortunate to have great friends, great family,
and my business partners and the office family.
Speaker 3: They're a lot of fun to be around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that certainly the people around you
are really really fantastic and it makes it easier to
do your job and pursue the things you want. You
have people you trust, and people you like being around.
But man, what is a I mean, we're coming up
on a holiday. But I know, like Monday, Tuesday, these
are workdays, right, these are workdays, maybe even Wednesday for
I think for a lot of people it's travel. I
don't know. And I'm going, what does your calendar look
like for a Monday before Thanksgiving? Just in terms of
like start and end time. I mean there's sometimes dinners
for you that go to ten eleven o'clock.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, actually I'm working Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Yeah,
I'm we arguing. We do a cousin's dinner, So Jennifer
and her cousins and then Jason and Christopher, my cousins.
You know, we're doing a dinner and then we'll go
to Iron Smoke or we'll go out and have a
drink afterward. But dinner's at dinner's at seven because I'll
probably be at the office till six, six thirty on Wednesday,
and then you know, Snay Thursday will be a great celebration,
great football three games, and then Friday, I'm back in
the office.
Speaker 1: Wall You're not going black Friday shopping.
Speaker 3: I am not I am not giving.
Speaker 1: I am not right back.
Speaker 5: I think I'll get my work out in the morning,
say burn off the calgories from Thursday, go do some work,
and then I'm definitely gonna have to go watch the
Kansas City Raiders game.
Speaker 1: Well, I got to tell you, I was very hard,
very hard for the Panthers today.
Speaker 3: Oh they were so close, they.
Speaker 1: Were so close. I was so impressed. That may be
the best game they played this season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and and and the thing with the
with the Chiefs is that they find a way to win,
right and and there's something about preparation and it and
it's all it's all those different things. And you know,
when you think about the Chiefs win against the Broncos,
you know, that's all game preparation.
Speaker 3: That's all preparation.
Speaker 5: And the people who have that ultimate success with people
that do the little things.
Speaker 3: You know, they did the.
Speaker 5: Film study to see that the left guard on on
the Broncos kit team was soft, and so what they do.
They freaking loaded up that gap. They had one guy
pushing because he was soft. The other guy jumped the
gap and then he.
Speaker 3: Got the block.
Speaker 5: You know, all those things like he got lucky, Sure,
you got lucky. Well, what means that you put yourself
in the opportunity to take advantage.
Speaker 3: Of it, right, And that's what they did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then that you know what happened again didn't
happen against our Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3: But you know, you just got to keep your head down.
Speaker 5: And do the right things and keep plugging away, and
good things will happen to you.
Speaker 3: Will. I believe in this team.
Speaker 1: Will be there Sunday night.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one hundred.
Speaker 1: And this is uh, this is a big one again,
I think, I mean, granted, you're going NFC versus AFC,
but the forty nine ers have been there, and I
know that they're a little banged up and injured and stuff,
but this couldn't I don't think they're a pushover.
Speaker 5: No, no, not at all. I mean, they're playing Green
Bay right now. It's the third quarter and they're down
by ten. San Francisco seven Packers seventeen. Your Packers are
playing well. But I mean the thing about the forty
nine ers is that they are so talented. The talent
they have on offense. You know, brock perties out this week,
who again, everybody says is he really that good? Well,
the kid runs the system and he's got talent around him.
But that's part of running the system exactly. And the
other thing about the forty nine ers is after forty
nine ers defense has got significant talent on that defensive line.
If you get all those guys healthy and the offense
is healthy. You know, the forty niners have not been
healthy all year long. All year, they haven't been healthy.
If they get a healthy team shown up in Buffalo,
that'll be a great test for the Bills to come
off as buy and then.
Speaker 3: See how they can perform on a really big stage.
Speaker 1: Not to I know, you wouldn't want to jinx or anything,
but what are your expectations? Have they changed for the
Buffalo Buffalo Bills since the beginning of the season, Yes
they have.
Speaker 3: They have.
Speaker 5: This offensive line is really gelled and they're playing the
best and offensive line has played since Jim Kelly days.
And so, you know, I looked at the Bills and
you know, I I thought they'd have many words from
four to five losses and that they would win the
AFC East.
Speaker 3: But to be you know, it wouldn't be as strong
year as they've had the last couple of years. But
the way that they're playing right now.
Speaker 5: The thing that being McDermott had done with his team
is that the guys that they plug and play, the
guys that are getting in are really, Oh, we lost you.
Speaker 3: Did you hear that alarm?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all of a sudden, we just lost you for
just a second. Cut out, Yes, I can hear you.
Speaker 5: So that alarm is alarmed for me. That goes off
every day at six fifteen to remind me to go home.
Speaker 1: Do you know how many people are usually racing out
the door. They're like kids in high school, you know,
they know the bells coming, They're lining up five minutes earlier.
They want to get out of there. Greg needs a
reminder to actually leave.
Speaker 5: It says go home, and then I usually hit snooze
like five times.
Speaker 3: Wow, then go home. Okay, But no, my my expectator
of the Bills have changed this year.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, they have evolved and the way that
these guys are playing and the guys who are stepping
up that that they've brought onto this team is really
making this a special run. And you know, every year
is different because of the chemistry and what makes what
makes the team great is how do they fit together? Right,
It's it's being in the trenches and knowing that the
guy next to you is doing your is doing the
job they need to do, so you can just focus
on your job and that everybody puts in that little
extra effort. Everybody does that extra thing on every play,
not knowing that that little extra thing can make the
biggest difference thing the outcome of the game, and that's
what will make it. That's what will allow this team
to win. The Chiefs do it, and they do it well, Uh,
now it's time for the Bills.
Speaker 1: To do it. It is time for the Bills to
do it. When you're when you know you're talking this stuff,
it really applies to the business side of your life
as well.
Speaker 3: I mean I learned those things is through playing football.
Speaker 5: You know, Gene Maston taught us in hornew We weren't
that good of a football program.
Speaker 3: Before Gene came around.
Speaker 5: Gene came around and taught us the little things that
you have to do in order to be successful. And
one of the things was, you know, this is what
everybody else does. You know, this is the everybody does
this program in football? Right, we all go to the
same coaching clinics, everybody's doing these things, so you got
if you want to be better than everybody else, you
got to put in more work. And then if the
benchmark of the team was East Roster when I was
a kid, and east Roster does all these things, we
got to do everything east Roster did plus some because
that's the only way we're going to beat them. And
that's the way that That's the way I think about
our business and for our clients, is that if things
are going you know, and I'm up against an attorney,
and I know this fact and circumstances and the laws,
and I want to put in everything I need to
do to know how to be prepared for that case.
And if the best attorney is going to be on
the other side, I always think the best attorney's going
to show up. I want to put in that extra
effort so I can whoever it is on the other.
Speaker 1: Side, Well, I don't want to keep you because the
alarm to go home has gone off, But I'll ask you,
what are the what what are the plans for Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5: So plans for Thanksgiving is to wake up and get
a workout in yeah, okay, and then hopefully it'll be
a nice RELAXI morning, which would then maybe you know,
jump in the spot, have a little champagne, start the
morning off like breakfast.
Speaker 3: Okay uh, and then begin to.
Speaker 5: Cook all the accouterments of the turkey meal, which I'll
have to confess Bill, I actually ordered from the club,
and then professional chefs make everything and it's actually perfect,
and then all I have to do is put it
in the warmer, and they have all the instructions written
out and that's just perfect, and then turn the game on.
I think the first game comes on at noon, and
then just enjoy the day.
Speaker 1: Well that's great. Well, thank you for all you've done
for the podcast. We're coming up on two years and
without people like you, it wouldn't be possible, So I
thank you tremendously.
Speaker 3: Oh this has been a great ride.
Speaker 5: Seeing you create your new path and doing everything you're
doing with your talent and incorporating so many great things
within our community has been fun to watch, and it's
been even more fun to be a part of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think we're gonna have bigger things in
twenty twenty five, So I'm excited. I really am excited.
Speaker 5: And there's a couple of things with some of these
other business ventures I'm interested. I'm working on that includes
you and some of the guys out in Buffalo. So
we still have to follow up on that, and there
might be some exciting things to come in the future.
Speaker 1: Which Bilified that would be great, and the Bilified properties, yes,
and the Billified properties that's great. Well. Thank you, Greg,
Say hi to your mom and your sons and Jen
and enjoy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: It's Sunday night, pasta dinner with football on. Man, it
doesn't get much better than this.
Speaker 1: It does not. Thank you, Greg, Thanks Bill, go Bills
for Race and Randy for Greg Connors. I'm Bill Moran,
and I gotta tell you I'm thankful for those guys.
But really, i mean, let me say it again, Kevin
and Dan from the very beginning, couldn't have done it
without these guys. I'm so thankful that they're there. We'll
be able to see Kevin tomorrow. I'm not sure when
we'll see Dan, but they know, they know what a
big part of this they are. And as we head
into our third year of Billified and some new podcasts
that'll be coming out, I thank you as well for
putting in all the stuff you do. And of course
to Matt Reese and the soldier and Laura and Stephanie
Ied and oh you could just keep going on, even Jamison.
I mean, it's changed my life for the better. So
have a wonderful Thanksgiving. We'll see you tomorrow with Matt Reese,
the Soldier, Kevin and a great story about how the
soldier may eight have screwed up his relationship right free
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