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Speaker 1: I want to welcome everyone back to the Pete Kenyonish

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I'm just kidding. Welcome back to Pony Express Radio. Our

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fearless leader, Red Hawk is out killing animals in Africa,

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so we are having myself the vice president host of

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Pony Express Radio, as we have done in the past

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when he is unable to do so. So thank you

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all for tuning in. I want to welcome all of

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this lovely guest panel that we have. First and foremost,

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we have mister Pete Kinyono's how are you, sir?

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Speaker 2: Doing well? Doing well? Good evening, excellent joining us.

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Speaker 1: We also have mister Elthemplar. How are you sir?

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Speaker 3: Oh, you said it the right way like Red Hawk?

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How you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm very well, I'm very well. You know you're cringey

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to me. So and then last but not least making

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a very special guest appearance is mister Dave the Distributors.

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How are you doing this seting?

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Speaker 4: Hey, well, glad to be here for once. Usually I

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can't make it, but I'm really happy to put an

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appearance in.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're very grateful that you had to put an

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appearance in, but you know, it's it's been an excellent

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couple of weeks since the conclusion of the Old Glory

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Club conference in twenty twenty five. It was it was

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an excellent conference. I was very happy to be there.

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I think I think actually all four of us were there,

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and I hope all of you, gentlemen enjoyed it as

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much as I did.

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Speaker 2: We all were.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, excellent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It wasn't just partying and smoking. It

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was real discussions about real futures.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, and I highly recommend all of you if you

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have the time to go watch the recap that we

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did on the Old Glory Club YouTube channel. It was

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an excellent recap, and I think the conference was great

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made we made waves like it does every single year.

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But onto onto business, right. It was a bit of

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a slower news week this week, but there were a

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couple of things that did occur, and I want to

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bring us into the first story of this evening, which

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is earlier this week. Marco Rubio instructed the Department of

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State to cease all interviews, not not just for Harvard University,

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but for all universities, to cease all interviews for student visas.

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I personally think this is a wonderful Development. I got

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what I voted for again award. This is just one

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of those little it's not so little of a thing,

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because these universities are almost entirely funded, at least especially

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the bigger ones. They're almost entirely funded by the money

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that they get from foreign students and particularly from the

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foreign governments that send those foreign students. But, gentlemen, what

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do you this? This is kind of the latest in

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the in the university wars that Trump has had with

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Harvard and with other institutions. But do you, gentlemen, have

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any any particular thoughts on either the visa ban or

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the wider university wars.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is a retaliation for was this? I don't

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know this fact. Was this in retaliation for their refusal

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to and preferential hiring and various departments.

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Speaker 1: I believe so, Actually I could go ahead.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 3: Being an Ivy League kid myself, I believe it was

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that the institutions of these schools are extremely resistant to

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any cutting off of the cash cow for foreign monies.

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just these years when you would hear about a deal

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made with like a so called sister school. We had

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a program with where they were going to like fund

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visas or something, and what that really meant is that

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they were getting like new buildings from foreign investors, and

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you would just have thirty percent of that year be

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from that country, a thirty percent of the class of

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that year. It was it was insane the amount of

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imported people, and they would just not their grades would

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not matter because they're the children and friends of like

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their their special donor class. It was a complete mess.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's it's obvious that there's been kind

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of a foreign takeover of the university system. I'm just

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kind of wondering what brought us on. I figured it

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had something to do with his ongoing conflict with the

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quote unquote dei policies at the university, but now that's

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always it's hard to tell with these things. I guess.

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Speaker 2: If another excuse that they're using is is that the

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foreign students are ones that are participated in the anti

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Speaker 4: Well, we have to draw by in somewhere, Pete. I mean,

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anything on campus. This is getting out of hand.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, just looking at the picture here. I'm

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sure that everyone at Harvard and everyone around the country

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is happy that the Thay Lady Boys are out there,

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you know, protesting so that international students can come to Harvard.

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Speaker 1: Now this is this has been I don't know when

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this particularly started, this trend of universities being mostly I

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know universities have always had a cosmopolitan bent to them,

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like exchange students or you know, international students in principle,

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particularly if you're a global empire, you know you're going

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to bring in your clients to go to your universities.

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history of Texas A and M. When I studied the

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history of Texas A and M, I saw that a

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couple of Central American presidents, I think one of the Olivian,

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then one of the Columbia I want to say, or

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Ecuador some went to that university. So this is this

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is typical for an empire to do. Is soft power.

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history of doing this, particularly in Latin America. But I

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student bodies being international students. I don't know when this started,

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it's gotten to the point that, yes, these universities derive

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a significant amount of their funding from these functionally guaranteed

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foreign admissions, and I don't know, it's one of the

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this this kind of this kind of reflects on the

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degradation of academia generally. You know, it's almost trite to

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say that you go to college, you don't actually get

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an education, and almost everyone, oh, go ahead, pete.

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Speaker 2: Well, according to groc In two, the year twenty three

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to twenty four, the academic year twenty three twenty four,

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approximately two hundred and seventy seven three hundred and ninety

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eight Chinese nationals were enrolled in American universities. So they

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have an army in here. Does anybody else find that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they never stay the total number of students in

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that specific year. But I'm curious what percentage of total

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students in the school that is, because that sounds excessively high.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean Canada, there is entire colleges that

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are just dominated by students from India, and a lot

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of these colleges are just fake, like their course their

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coursework is minimum. You can do it basically since COVID,

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you've been able to do it almost entirely online, and

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they're able to get an indefinite number of the Canadian

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equivalent of h one bbs is to come over from

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Speaker 3: Just to give a sense of scale, I'm running memories now.

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five American students out of a class of maybe like

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one hundred and fifty of my program. Everyone else was foreign.

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a decade ago. I can't imagine how bad is not

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that they just have like the token single American and

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the graduate program.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when we found out that in the DC courts,

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like thirty to forty percent of the judges were born

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in other countries. I mean, this just basically is it's

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the way things are now. It's we don't heritage Americans

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couple a few generations there just don't matter anymore. They're

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bringing in people they figured out this system where they

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bring in people from elsewhere. The colleges will do it

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to make money, but because they can charge them top dollar.

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this is two years ago. When I lived in Auburn, Alabama,

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where is where Auburn University is, all of my I

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were Chinese. I mean, it's it's just the way it

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they come for their first semester, when they fly back

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there immediately debriefed, told that you know, the next semester

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that they go back, that they're working for them. So

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of a million spies for China in the country. And then

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we have people like this Korean judge that I mean

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literally looked like a Jerry Lewis character from the fifties.

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this term, but it was like, literally one of the

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most racist things I've ever seen. This judge just looked

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like a caricature from like a fifties TV show. And

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this guy was born in South Korea and he's basically

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making policy and selling the president that he he's selling

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the president, and I states he can't do something, he

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can't be an article to executive.

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Speaker 3: If I'm if my memory is correct, a lot of

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these jurisdictions that they're they're drawn up by Congress? Am

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I incorrect in that?

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Speaker 2: Does anybody have that information?

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Speaker 3: I don't have it, so because I know at least

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that you know. The Supreme Court famously, like the Congress

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sets the number, well, the president sets the number of

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the Congress approves it, so it theorectly. The president could

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always expand or even contract the court by failing to

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appoint someone. But I think federal judges, their jurisdictions might

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be set by either congressill Senate. I don't see what.

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Speaker 1: Oh I remember, they're set by the Congress Circuit Court Act.

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Speaker 3: Why Trump has Congress and the Senate? When is he

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going to just tell them? Look, if you want my

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endorsement for the midterms, you've got to delete this jurisdiction

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and merge it with someone who's loyal to me, like

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play hard, play hard games.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the thing, you know, the one.

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We love what Trump is doing, and we particularly love

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the fact that he does something as radical as a

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blanket ban on all student visa interviews, which I'm sure

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they may or may not lift quietly two weeks from now,

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or they may you know already.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they already have. But you know, I

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think everyone is saying the same thing. And I know

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this is a segment about universities, but you know, as always,

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the courts touch all of it. Although on that this

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piece of news came out today is that they have

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ended the American Bar Association's influence on judiciary selections. The

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ABA no longer has any say in any special say

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and and who is picked for any sort of legislative

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or any sort of judicial deployment go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Was that a law or was that put through by

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the legislature? Was that an executive order?

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Speaker 1: That was a letter from the ag Basically, the I

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think the age.

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Speaker 2: Has okay, so it can be it can be overturned

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by the next president. When you have when you have

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the House and you have the Senate, Why the fuck

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are they not drawing up law after law after fucking

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law after fucking law and passing it to the president

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and basically making it to the left can never get

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in power again. Why the why is everything being done

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by an executive order that can be overturned by the

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next president And it's obviously and obviously can be be

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ignored because the courts tell them to.

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Speaker 3: That's my concern where where it's coming. Trump's using executive

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authority in a way that's that's sloppy and I want

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to be more organized. But they they've been saying that

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the bill of the quote unquote beautiful bill is it's

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going to attempt to legitimize a lot of what Trump's

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ready to go when you write those executive orders and

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have Congress going and then start berating them. Like Trump

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has a significant popular base, he should whip them to shape,

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to call their representatives. That's like the this is like

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the the formal way of doing it. Like we're still

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in formal times where we have to follow these formal procedures,

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but the courts are overstretching their boundaries and it's it's

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time for him to start telling Congress you need to

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Speaker 1: Well. I was discussing this with a fellow member of

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the club Spader earlier today, and this is something I

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told him into something I'll say again. You know I

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always have you know, with leadership, I always think it's

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better to trust the leadership, especially if you know that

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they're your leadership. It's also always better to give them

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the benefit of the doubt, in the sense that perhaps

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they are dealing with information that we do not know about,

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or they have models that are predicting projecting something that

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we don't know about. Maybe Trump hasn't acted.

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Speaker 2: I don't like.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine that the idea hasn't occurred to him.

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He surrounds himself with Andrew Jackson and all these other things.

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or he hasn't had advisors tell him about this, or

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he hasn't seen a tweet or something like that. I

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can't imagine. I think that there's something there's trying to

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keep a veneer of normalcy of some sort that maybe

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they don't want to cross the rubicon yet.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is the fundamental question of real politics

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is who's worthy of trust. There's just no way that

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average people, or even people who are relatively knowledgeable about

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politics and who represent a community can account for all

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the pieces of information that go into complex decision making.

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So the thing that we need to determine is do

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we trust the given decision makers? And who among our

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current decision makers can we trust the most? And you

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know this is this is something that I see this

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question coming up again and again and again, regardless of

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what the context is. I mean, you also that Jordan

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Peterson klepboorgi is gets completely destroyed by these seventeen year

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old atheists that apparently haven't experienced puberty yet. And it's,

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you know, it's the way he lost was he just was.

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said that he believed in the thing right, So I

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mean he was he was. He came off as completely unrelied,

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and that was sort of the more fundamental question. The

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more fundamental question is can we trust you as a leader?

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And Noah looks at Jordan Peterson and says, yeah, I

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can trust that, or I should be able to trust that.

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He just looks like a complete mess.

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Speaker 1: And they wouldn't necessarily say the same about Trump because

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you know, at least as a man and at least

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as as as a personality, you can trust that at

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least he is he thinks he's in charge, and he's

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trying to be in charge. At least that's my judgment.

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I'm sure some of you may disagree. You know, I've

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made this point, I think the last time I hosted.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that is the judgment people are making. People people

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want Trump because they feel that they can trust Trump

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to be oppositional to the establishment United States government. You know,

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and we could argue, you know, can you ever really

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trust anyone? You don't deeply know that's a hard thing

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to say, but you know, that is the decision that

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the American people have made, and it is, in my opinion,

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it is sort of like the with limited information, it

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appears to be the correct decision of all the decisions

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they have available to them.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, and I mean, you know, I know this

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is a segment about universities that we spun into talking

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about the courts and the UH and the seeming inability

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or unwillingness for the Trump administ administration to functionally declare

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what amounts to a state of exception. And that's the

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thing is. It's like, you know, trust the Plan is

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a meme. Trust the Plan is is something that we

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at the Old Glory Club have have stated before that

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I personally have stated before. But the thing is is

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like even even even our patients has limits. And it

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gets the point where does it how many people in

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Trump's administration know what time it is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And as I've said a few times I've been

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on here, like I have to keep repeating it, there's

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gonna be ten million fewer boomers in four years. If

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you're not deporting two and a half million a year,

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you are losing the country per per person. You don't vote,

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don't deport that. It has to get done. We're halfway

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through this year and we're only at like one hundred

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and fifty thousand deportations. That's less than ten percent of

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what needs to be done. It needs to buy a

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power of ten accelery. Now, maybe when this big beautiful

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bill passes, they'll have the money and manpower to kick

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that up. But like we're talking about a power of

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ten increase of what they've been doing so far. And

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I don't know, doubling the amount of money you throw

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at an agency that doesn't seem like they'll get me

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a power of ten response. I've never known that to happen.

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In all my life of watching government funding go up

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and up, it seems like the efficiency goes down and

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down the more you pund it. So I'm hoping Trump

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knows what he's doing in this because like, you got

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to deport like two million people in six months at

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this point, how are you gonna do it?

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Speaker 1: But this is this is why I appeal to the

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fact that leadership always has access to information that just

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about everyone else or a very small number doesn't have

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access to, and they may very well have models that

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show them how flawed the what is it, how how

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not flawed, how fragile the global system is, and how

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fragile the country is, and how much a a executive

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choice a state of exception may cause some kind of

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how should I say, crisis that no one wants, I

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mean except for us. But you know, once once that,

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like I say, once that Rubicon is crossed, there's no

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going back. And I think this administration wants to keep

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as much of a semblance of normalcy as possible, and

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hence that's why they're you know, they're trying to be

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as restrained as possible with these universities, despite the fact

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that these universities are populated by some of the most

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disgusting Cretnius and and frankly backwards quote unquote experts that

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you know, the world has to offer, one of whom

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our very own Dave the Distributors debated recently.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's odd because you're talking about the Nathan Kaufnists discussion.

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Nathan Kaffnus supposedly is a right winger. He's known for

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trying to mainstream the HBD thing for the the I

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don't know he's been doing it for like two years.

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He was. He came to my attention because he wrote

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an article criticizing Heterodox Academy. But then, you know what's

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so funny is he realized the Heterodox Academy was useless

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because they essentially dis dissented on free speech and then

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they gave power back to the experts in every other issue.

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So then you know, this year he writes an article

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about how there needed to be more of a deference

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to experts, which you know, like he said, Okay, they

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lied about COVID, they lied about the you know, Joe

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Biden's health, they lied about any number of things, transgenderism,

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the lab leak theory, and even admits that they've been

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lying about global warming in in certain key ways. And

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then his thesis is, no, but we need to listen

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to the experts on tariffs because like there's a consensus,

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and also on Israel, because there's a consensus. I don't

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you know, And and I guess the problem with the

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hump of coughnesces his he does in the article. What

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kind of caused me to do a double take when

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I read it is is he has this line because

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the experts got it right all the time. They just lied,

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So he doesn't. And I continuously kind of grilled him

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on this. He didn't seem to understand the difference between

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a an error, like a random error like I'm stupid

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or I'm drunk or I just made a mistake, and

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an intentional lie. And I don't know, I mean, this

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is kind of an interesting philosophical problem, like it go over.

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I I can see you have my graph up here,

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but The funny thing is just how however was I

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kind of was expecting him to kind of concede this

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point and move on, but he just wouldn't let go

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of it. He seems so invested, and it was almost

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kind of like a Sam Harris moment. It's like, Okay,

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we could admit that the experts were wrong, and we

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can admit the experts were lying, but now we have

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to go back and trust the experts even harder until

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we prove that they're lying again. I you know, I

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don't know. I mean, I guess this is just what

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you should expect from the Academy these days. But Dave Man, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Dave, didn't he just really make the point that I mean,

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I tuned that after forty five minutes. Man, I'm sorry

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I couldn't make it. But didn't he try to make

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the point that being wrong, that lying wasn't as bad

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as being wrong?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, he said he Well, he said that it

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depends whether lying is worse than being wrong depends on

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the context. And I think what he I'm going to

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steal a man him here. I think what he what

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he's thinking of is we're going to look at the

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information after it happens, and then evaluate each untruth utilitarianly

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based on how much it cost us as a society.

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But that's not what you're doing. When you're interpreting facts

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as they come from a truth teller. You're not evaluating

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the facts. You're evaluating the actor or the fact system

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and saying how much can I trust this fact system.

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That's why all of the journals that you know, every

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journal that I publish in, every journal that He's published in,

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if you publish a mistake, they'll be very understanding. You know,

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some more than others. Obviously, if you publish an intentional hoax,

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you will never publish in that journal again, and probably

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won't publish in many others in that field. But I

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guess we just we unlearned this when it comes to

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things like Israel. We unlearned this when it comes to

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things like terriffs. And what's so funny is that I'm actually,

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you know, just as a personal matter, I am highly

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skeptical of terroriffs. I do think that NAFTA kind of

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got us into this situation, but it does not necessarily

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stand a reason that undoing NAFTA will get us out

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of it. Like things aren't symmetrical that way economics right,

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and you could end up hurting the system more with

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terrorifts than not. But but you know that's not the point.

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The point is is that there's a refusal to even

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engage in an analysis of the economic state of being,

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and all you get is just appeals to expert consensus

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against all data.

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Speaker 3: You're reminding me of something that I've I've been trying

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to hunt this down. It's an article from I think

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twenty eighteen, right before COVID came. It was explaining it

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institutional trust collapse under Trump and before And a little

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detail in this article which I wish I could find

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was that it was outlining what institutions are still trusted,

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and it was a political article, and they were saying

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Democrats should focus on these still trusted institutions if they

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hoped to nourish voters in the next election.

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Speaker 5: And it outlined above on the top medical professionals at

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that time in twenty eighteen, they were the most trusted institution.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I trusted them too. I thought that that was

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part of the academy that they hadn't been interrupted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And reflecting on what I can remember from this article,

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it was almost lining them up as like, listen, guys,

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we know everyone. Anyone you pick, you're gonna shit to

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the bed in. So just do it one at a time,

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don't do it all at once, and like you might

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be able to extend your power for a few extra years.

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Speaker 4: But now that we've established that we can't trust the

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doctors anymore, at least we have our experts on Israel,

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Like that's that's that's the one honest institution. That's one

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that's the one area of research and the modern academy

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that we can trust is the expert consensus on Israel.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like every two years they pick

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whatever is the most trusted institution to build the party

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platform on, and when they burn that down, they move

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on to the next like a parasite. And you do

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you can only do so many times before there's no

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trusted institutions left.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is the problem that they're just

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going to whatever they can kind of use to to

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get credibility for the next round. So it's just a

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continuous uh, hopping off the lily pads onto the next one.

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I assume this is the one. Well you know, I

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don't know if people are going to play it, but

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you know this this they're not They're not going to

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be trust in institutions if they continuously lie. And that's

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what Nathan Coffines doesn't understand. People will not trust lying

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systems unless those systems are purged and punished. And there

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is a demarcation that the past was that there was

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a mistake made, there's a reckoning. You can't just go like, oh,

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we're really, really, really smart, so trust us again, like

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once we've established that. I mean, I got to say

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this on the show, but like the New York Times

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has essentially emitted the lab leak theory at the stage,

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Like they've admitted it's over, and they've also admitted that

479
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,640
there was a cover up. And I mean it's very

480
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,680
obvious in New York Times is part of that they

481
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:46,839
obviously blame the scientists. That that means that essentially our

482
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:52,400
institutional scientific establishment has murdered millions more people than the

483
00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:57,559
establishment of the USSR responsible for Chernobyl. Like is there

484
00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:00,119
any reckoning about this? Like, you know there was a

485
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,799
reckoning in Chernobyl, Like people were put on trial very publicly.

486
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,559
Uh So what happened.

487
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: Well in many ways, that's why we're we're not going

488
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,759
down the peaceful breakup of the Soviet Union model. We're

489
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:18,799
going down the burning down in flames like late French

490
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:22,039
republic model. It's it's very like like this, this need

491
00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:25,839
to grasp onto this thing that has lost trust because

492
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,960
you don't know any other framework of viewing reality. It's

493
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,200
it's it's probably gonna take their party down with them,

494
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,839
which is great, but it also means that if if

495
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:37,240
you can like go deeper in and convince the voter

496
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,640
no institution is trustworthy that this this there's a phrase

497
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:48,240
for cannibalization maybe of institutions to get political capital. The

498
00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:49,440
model collapses.

499
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,359
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's like how you know petroleum generates electricity?

500
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:59,720
Is you know, you shatter the bonds in in the

501
00:28:59,799 --> 00:29:03,559
kind itself which releases energy which powers whatever system. This

502
00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:07,200
is an extreme oversimplification. I'm not a chemist, but it's

503
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,680
the exact same thing. It's the exact same principles.

504
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,839
Speaker 4: It's like high energy state to a low energy state.

505
00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:18,079
Speaker 3: Exactly exact catabalism. The phrase is cannibalism, it's catabalism. The

506
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,880
A T A B O L I.

507
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Speaker 4: As in catabolic.

508
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, catabolic catabolic degeneracy.

509
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's it's you know, and it's it's a

510
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:31,279
powerful system. But the problem is is it feeds on itself,

511
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,799
you know, and it's reaching its absolute you know, the

512
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,400
absolute limit that it can reach without it the DEI,

513
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:44,759
the trans stuff. We've got a couple of other stories

514
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:46,039
that's going to touch on this. I don't want to

515
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:48,359
get to too much in depth, but but it's the

516
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,359
high water mark and they've already started going the other way.

517
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:57,000
They have nothing left to burn. What what institution of

518
00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:59,880
the government still has credibility and trust.

519
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: In a in an administrative state, everything becomes administrative, the academy,

520
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:10,839
the churches, everything, It's that's just where we're at at

521
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:15,160
this point, and they they need someone like Coughness needs

522
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,480
to defend his position. He's already somebody who has stepped

523
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,359
out on the limb with HBB, which I mean, I

524
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:27,559
don't think that's so much stepping out on a limb anymore.

525
00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:30,839
I think he decided to do something at a time

526
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,920
when you know, when the they were going to have

527
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,119
to take anyway. Yeah, yeah, the danger was going down.

528
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,119
So he it's almost like a limited hangout if you know,

529
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,359
if you know, the limited hangout kind of you could

530
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:42,799
see them.

531
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: Doing with this lap Lake theory too, Like in twenty

532
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,119
twenty two, they like they tested the water through it

533
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,359
and they withdrew.

534
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sorry, go ahead, No, no, no, you're no.

535
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,200
It's a perfect it's a perfect example when it's okay

536
00:30:58,279 --> 00:31:02,920
to be edgy boy, when it's when something's already on

537
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:08,400
the way out. But by pointing out that if you

538
00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:13,000
if the academy is now just one big lie, and

539
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:16,000
that people share in the lie and people glom onto

540
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:19,680
the lie, you know, it's my whole thing of academics

541
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,799
getting kicked out of losing their jobs for plagiarism. So

542
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,920
how can you plagiarize when you all have the same opinion?

543
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:33,240
I mean that's literally impossible. So it's basically it's white

544
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,799
blood cells. Now it's just protect, protect, protect, protect, And

545
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,079
if you're calling them all a liar, you're putting his

546
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,920
job is on the line.

547
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,799
Speaker 4: His Yeah, good, No, I mean I'm laughing, Pete, because

548
00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:49,440
that's exactly what I said to Chris Ruffo. I said,

549
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,000
like going after Claudine Gay or whatever for plagiarism. These

550
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:57,279
people all like they have no original ideas. The only

551
00:31:57,319 --> 00:31:59,200
thing she didn't do is put it in her own words.

552
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,119
But it's been all the same my ideas in those

553
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,519
departments for the last twenty years. Everything is plagiarism. Right,

554
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,160
you're just you're not even shown that she's dishonest. You're

555
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,920
just shown that she is lazy. Right, she couldn't she

556
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,079
couldn't put her work into a word processor and retype it.

557
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: She's part of the hive.

558
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:19,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's just part of the hive.

559
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: That's it. And and she got punished for it because, well,

560
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:28,240
anti Summitism was rearing its ugly head on campus, and

561
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:33,240
she had been taught that you let these people, these kids,

562
00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:39,240
they part of their college experience is protesting. Well, they

563
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:41,160
just picked the wrong they picked the wrong subject.

564
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, And well it's interesting because this is last year

565
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,680
there was this explosion of people like what they call

566
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:53,119
themselves the elite human capital people. I called them the

567
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,359
new seculor right, these people who are kind of like,

568
00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,680
we're going to ape leftist affectations and academic credentials, but

569
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:03,680
also be on the right wing. I think that this

570
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,039
whole system of people is in the process of collapsing.

571
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,400
I do not think that they have anything to say

572
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,960
after Trump one a second time, and I think they're

573
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,880
grasping for straws. They're going to go back to being

574
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,000
like the new Atheists. But you know, unlike Sam Harris,

575
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,319
they're not personally well established enough to kind of coast

576
00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:24,119
on their brand name.

577
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you. I believe the Left is

578
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:32,119
in complete and total retreat. They've been broken. They brought

579
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,359
in too many client groups, and their client groups are

580
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:38,759
two opposed to each other, and there's no immediately forthcoming

581
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:42,640
political formula. And Newsom is kind of gearing up in

582
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,839
his little fiefdom of California to make a sort of

583
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,000
last stand in twenty twenty eight. I think that's what

584
00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:50,319
he's He's trying to sort of reinvent the Bill Clinton

585
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:53,160
political formula. I don't think it's going to work. I

586
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,799
compared him to James the Second at the Boy to

587
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,400
one of my friends. But the thing is with it

588
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,000
is that, yes, this is a collapsing system. But as

589
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:08,880
Christopher Sambatch likes to say, the Democratic Party is the

590
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,039
historical party of power in the United States. And if

591
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:17,280
the Democratic Party and its edifices go away, they're you

592
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,000
know that nothing will come to fill that void. Yes,

593
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:24,239
they're collapsing, but who's going to fill that void? The Republicans? Yeah,

594
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,599
an enter And that's where political crisis occurs, when there's

595
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:33,280
a breakdown of political authority, which is one of the

596
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,440
most dangerous kind of civilizational crises you can go down.

597
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,719
It's more dangerous than a famine. It's more dangerous than

598
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,320
a drought. Is a breakdown of political authority, because that's

599
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,840
where you get not only civil wars, but you know,

600
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,280
something somewhat worse than civil war, something like the Thirty

601
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,360
Years War, where it's just a total free for all

602
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:57,280
within a geographically limited area. But anyway, I digress. I

603
00:34:57,559 --> 00:34:59,719
don't think I don't think we need to play the clip.

604
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,039
Speaker 6: Good.

605
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, there wasn't.

606
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,199
Speaker 4: I can summarize what is in the clip because it

607
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,440
does segue right back to our original topic. But I

608
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,320
mean this statement I made, and I think this is

609
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,519
the clip, but it it. I told them, like, you

610
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,679
need to be able to punish the universities. There needs

611
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,639
to be a reckoning, and before you do that, nothing

612
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,159
can proceed. And that's the one thing that Nathan Kaufnes

613
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,360
actually does complain about affirmative action. But the second you

614
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,280
do something to actually punish universities for implementing things like

615
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,440
affirmative action, then he will immediately defend them as being

616
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,559
the best and the brightest.

617
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, this is the other thing I saw

618
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,039
just kind of on that point, and yes, we're going

619
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:50,880
to go back to original topic, but on that exact

620
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,719
same vein. I saw a video recently where Mike Millie

621
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,719
was in uniform talking about how people swore an oath

622
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,000
to the Constitution and not a would be dictator and

623
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:04,800
the fact that that not Mike Mark whatever, the fact

624
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,199
that he's still drawing breath infuriates me.

625
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 7: Uh.

626
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,519
Speaker 3: I was gonna point out, did any of you see

627
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:15,679
the article in the New It's like the New York

628
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,559
mag Intelligentsia or intelligences I forget what's called, but it

629
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:23,159
was about the It was basically like a column in

630
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:28,559
which multiple professors ranted about UH kids using AI. Now, yeah,

631
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:32,440
this is related, Uh that that line, like massive numbers

632
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,679
of students are going to graduate functionally illiterate in their subjects.

633
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:42,239
There is actually maybe an obtuse hope in that, because

634
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,000
if if they're so reliant on AI rather than thinking

635
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,440
critically about the topic, they're they're also kind of not

636
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,039
going to be indoctrinated, and there so what few American

637
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:55,880
students are going to be in here and and listen

638
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,199
to these clips like like what they was an interviewing

639
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,679
with these institutions. They're not getting the influence from the

640
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:02,960
institution because they're not actually thinking about it. They're just

641
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,559
telling the AI the bullet points from the assignment and

642
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:08,599
having the AI do it. So there may be this

643
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:12,320
this idea I'm actually writing about this topic in the

644
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,719
same way that during COVID, the like the two to

645
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,920
four years that students were away from the classroom created

646
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:23,320
this like vacuous like student body that is essentially very

647
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:28,480
easy to radicalize in non regime of approved views. Now

648
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,320
you're gonna have the same thing in colleges where you're

649
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,719
gonna have this this generation of students that that just

650
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,000
typed it into AI and had the AI do the aslament.

651
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,159
They're gonna be riped in prime for any kind of

652
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,400
radicalization because they didn't fill it with the university radicalization.

653
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,639
Maybe in some ways, this this protest movement that's happening

654
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:48,559
is is a slight result of that to some degree,

655
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:49,000
I don't know.

656
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't feel good about that. I agree with you,

657
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,239
but I don't think that's a good thing.

658
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:57,119
Speaker 4: No, I mean this is it raises a generation of

659
00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:03,400
people that just do you say AI as a process?

660
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:05,920
You know, so I know this is.

661
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: I would argue, I would argue that a large amount

662
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,880
of the political capital of young protesters comes from this

663
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:22,719
radicalization pathway. Without it, they're not going to be radicalized

664
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,960
as much. They'll be lazy do nothings, but they won't

665
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,719
be in the streets during the next like riot or something.

666
00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:32,960
They won't care. They haven't been radicalized and collected the

667
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,280
political capital to want to do something. They simply don't care.

668
00:38:39,679 --> 00:38:42,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think mass apathy is what's

669
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:43,239
eventually gonna.

670
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

671
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: Well, I'm one of the things that I'm the most

672
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,840
worried about is the demographic decline amongst under twenties that

673
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,559
is coming like a freight train, which scares me more

674
00:38:56,559 --> 00:39:00,880
than anything else. But gentlemen, I think we've I think

675
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,039
we've we've talked about this quite a bit. Did any

676
00:39:03,039 --> 00:39:06,199
of you have any final thoughts about the university wars,

677
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,000
mister Kofness, the state of the academy, or the state

678
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:13,639
of the people going into the academy before we move

679
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:14,559
on to our next topic.

680
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,079
Speaker 4: I'm good, all right.

681
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,639
Speaker 1: I guess we've beat this horse to death. Well, bringing

682
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,360
us into our next topic. Recently, there was I think

683
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,440
I think Elon Musk made a tweet he said, you know,

684
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,480
the GDP growth is absolutely vital to national security, et cetera,

685
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,639
et cetera. And then I think some some you know,

686
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,719
like fake based senator or whomever quote tweeted it and

687
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,119
said it's impossible to refute him on this. And then

688
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:50,639
some third individual responded to that senator or representative or

689
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:56,119
whomever's quote tweet saying, strip mind the national parks to yeah,

690
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,000
strip mine the federal parks to end the national debt.

691
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,159
And we of course have our We have our beloved

692
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,440
leader up there, who is quite a naturalist and hunter himself, who,

693
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:09,039
as I said earlier, is currently in Africa, literally on

694
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:13,920
safari at the moment. He had this to say, America's

695
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,599
natural beauty is not for sale. Go to port one

696
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:19,239
hundred million illegals and get rid of DEI you know, like,

697
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,800
actually do the job you were elected to do. I

698
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:23,800
completely agree with our president here.

699
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the point is and we talked about

700
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,480
this RedHawks on my show, and we talked about this.

701
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,719
If you to port one hundred million illegals, if you

702
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:44,880
lower the population, if that helps not only the economy,

703
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,840
it lowers prices, It lowers the prices of houses, it

704
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,559
lowers the price of rent. It also lowers pollution, all

705
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:54,559
of these things. But one of the things I want

706
00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:57,400
to point out here is strip mind the federal parks

707
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:00,360
and the national debt. This is my data repub looking.

708
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:04,480
This is one of those people who got really famous

709
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:08,639
for made the software where you could plug someone's name

710
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,199
in or an NGO's name in and look exactly how

711
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,079
much money they were getting from US AID and everything.

712
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,480
And it really goes to show that people they were

713
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,760
made hero I mean, Trump mentioned mentioned this person. Elon

714
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,960
highlighted this person. People were asking, you know, asking this

715
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,480
person to come on. I think this person lost their

716
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:31,599
job and people are like asking them to come on

717
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:34,039
their podcasts or find her a job. I believe it's

718
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:37,039
a female. Of course it's a female. That's a that's

719
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:41,199
a total women moment right there. But it just goes

720
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,599
to show that these people are They're not our people.

721
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:51,840
These Republicans are not. They're not our people. They they

722
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,719
they don't get it. They they just don't get it.

723
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,679
They think these are just civic nationalists and it's their

724
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,920
line go up people. That's not what we're about. We're

725
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,079
not about line go up.

726
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,519
Speaker 3: I remember going to her website and typing a pack

727
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:14,880
and getting zero results, and I was instantly suspicious of it.

728
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:22,239
There are certain groups that civic nationalists consider friendly that

729
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,760
they seem to have censored off that Data Republican website.

730
00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:29,840
I think that it was like it was primarily a

731
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,280
tool against the left, which which good, but it was

732
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,880
not a tool to reflect on how the right is captured.

733
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,360
And that is concerning. And I think you were seeing

734
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,440
it again. They're just about GDP. They're just about their

735
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,760
friends and allies. We're not their friends, We're just this

736
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,079
like useful. They view us as kind of like the

737
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:52,760
useful idiots to get into power. And that's kind of like,

738
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,960
like you feel used when you realize that. And Jill,

739
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,679
exactly exactly do you think that?

740
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: You know?

741
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 4: This is an interesting question. So I have a different perspective.

742
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:09,119
I I hate the GDP line go up thing. I

743
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,840
get in to debates about this frequently. It's not a

744
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,639
good representation representation of median well being. It's a terrible

745
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,159
representation of median wellbeing. But there's an obvious reason why

746
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,480
a lot of people care about it, even those who

747
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:27,800
aren't aligned with our enemies, and that's because GDP is

748
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,880
essentially what allows us to keep on borrowing money, and

749
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:36,239
we're borrowing money against future GDP, which means that if

750
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,840
the GDP growth stops, the money printers stop going for

751
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,280
which means that we have a catabol collapse of the

752
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:51,480
Western financial systems. And that is something that is, you know,

753
00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:53,920
a huge can of worms that we haven't even begun

754
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,840
to unwrap yet. Ideally that this is also one of

755
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,960
the reasons why some people have speculated that the ruling

756
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:05,039
class might be they might be pulling back on immigration.

757
00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:08,039
It appears at least in some areas of Europe and

758
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:11,400
in Canada. I never know how seriously to take this rhetoric,

759
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,960
but certainly the rhetoric is in that direction. And one

760
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:18,000
possible reason is is that in the last five years

761
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:21,559
it's become very very apparent that not only is immigration

762
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,079
deleterious to median well being, which you can see quite clearly,

763
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,199
but also that the immigrants they are bringing in are

764
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,639
net negatives on GDP, which they do care about because

765
00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:33,920
if they don't have that, they can't keep on printing

766
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,440
the money and borrowing.

767
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,639
Speaker 3: Which which begs the question why we haven't or at

768
00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:42,760
least our elite, having gotten this memo because the obsession

769
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,440
with like picking your your your cherished third world group

770
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:50,599
to bring over here to work your jobs, when we

771
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,360
all know they're just going to be in welfare and

772
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:57,840
taking like like hiding a lot of tax money through remittennces.

773
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,800
I just don't understand what when they have I do

774
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,760
see that like the nations like England, Poland and France,

775
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,599
they're getting them. They realize it, they realize it's it's

776
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:09,599
it is actually in fact dropping the GDP the more

777
00:45:09,639 --> 00:45:11,920
immigrac they bring in because they're all in welfare and

778
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,360
not contributing to the workforce. So when when are they

779
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,639
going to get that memo? Because they should have gotten

780
00:45:17,639 --> 00:45:18,159
it by now.

781
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think that they're just trying to

782
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:28,559
get more power inside the sort of the primary superpower

783
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:33,119
of the West. So they're thinking, oh, well, maybe it'll

784
00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:36,239
tank the economy, but I'm still trying to get as

785
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,559
much power as possible before this thing collapses. That's obviously

786
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:43,079
the counterfailing logic, and immigrants give that to them in

787
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:46,559
the short term, you know, a.

788
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: Little bit, no good please, Okay, I just want to

789
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:51,840
take that and run with it a little bit. You

790
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,639
talk about how you know, maybe the mindset amongst the

791
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:57,239
elite is like, Yeah, this thing is inevitably going to collapse,

792
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,159
but I want to make sure that I get my little,

793
00:45:59,559 --> 00:46:03,159
my little corner secure before it does. I think that's

794
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:06,119
the prevailing attitude amongst a lot of people. One of

795
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:08,199
the one of the things I've kind of been obsessing

796
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,480
with is, you know, since I even got started, is

797
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,559
the concept of decline and collapsing crisis and what will

798
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:17,039
eventually bring this to an end. And you know, the

799
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:19,320
same way that we were talking about in the last segment,

800
00:46:19,519 --> 00:46:24,639
how this this you know, parasitic political economy that exists

801
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:28,119
amongst this elite that basically goes from institution to institution,

802
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:33,599
breaking the credibility and all that it. I I don't

803
00:46:33,679 --> 00:46:37,920
underestimate the capacity of this group of people to keep

804
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,519
things going just long enough to ensure that they've siphoned

805
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:44,960
as much out as they possibly can. And I don't

806
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,119
know if there's any way to keep them from doing that. Right.

807
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:51,440
This actually gets into the into the topic of a

808
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,199
couple of the talks that we had at the conference

809
00:46:53,239 --> 00:47:00,000
as to how you react to that. I personally, I don't,

810
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:01,480
I don't know. I don't think there's I don't think

811
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,119
there's any way around this catabolic collapse. And I don't

812
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:06,079
think there's any way that we can make these people

813
00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:08,960
pay for taking all of the money out of our system,

814
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,679
because the one thing they all have their they all

815
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:16,639
have their landing pads more or less pre selected, and

816
00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:19,239
this has been an ongoing thing since the seventies. So

817
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:24,079
in all honesty, I I think the best thing for

818
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:26,000
us to do, and the best thing for us to

819
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,079
focus on, and and something that the Old Glory Club

820
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:31,119
is starting to focus on, is you know, rather than

821
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:35,320
rather than you know, you know, attempting to map out

822
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,400
how these people are taking the money, or how they're

823
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,400
how they're shattering and and and and emptying the vault.

824
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,239
Start making plans for what you're going to do whenever

825
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,480
this catabolic collapse inevitably occurs, Because I you know, everyone

826
00:47:48,599 --> 00:47:52,400
and their mother can tell you that this system based

827
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,440
on endless lending doesn't doesn't end very well. Uh.

828
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: One of my favorite old letter collections, I think it's

829
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:07,079
by Sidonus. It's the It's basically the meeting minutes between

830
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:10,239
the Gothic kings and the and the surviving Roman Senate

831
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,159
after the Western imperial system collapsed. And one of the

832
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,039
things that constantly gets brought up by the Gothic monarch

833
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,199
when they're meeting with the Senate is who gave you

834
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,000
this tax relief? Who gave you these workers who, like

835
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:28,800
the Gothic kings, don't understand how these Italian noblemen like

836
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,800
cut out a part of the former empire for themselves

837
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:36,920
without anyone noticing, and they're just flabbergasted by the amount

838
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,880
of like tax free easy living so many of the

839
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,559
elite were living as the empire burned down. They thought

840
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:46,400
they would find them impoverished and in need, but instead

841
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,280
they found them living on their own little fortified piece

842
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,800
of the pie. And one of the most common things

843
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,800
I see in these meeting minutes in like the it'

844
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,719
supposed to be like the seventh and eighth centuries, is

845
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,920
the Gothic king looking at this and just stripping out

846
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,920
all the benefits away and retaxing them to like maximum

847
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,280
amounts because they haven't paid their dues to the what

848
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,440
what they were calling the Roman Commonwealth in the post

849
00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:12,119
imperial system. And I don't want to wait for some

850
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:14,679
foreign conqueror to come here and beraate our elite for

851
00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:17,840
being so selfish. I don't want to wait my whole

852
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,599
life watching them make their little fortified piece of the

853
00:49:20,639 --> 00:49:24,159
pie while everyone else dies and suffers. And unfortunately, I

854
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,360
don't know how to like like get them to care

855
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:31,519
about investing in this this this nation. I don't I

856
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:33,840
don't know, I really don't know. The only solution seems

857
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,440
to be to just build your own and be a

858
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,480
better person when you compete with these elite in the

859
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:42,119
post federal system, whatever comes like, you have to just

860
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:45,079
have something that you can barter with with these elite,

861
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:50,440
because they're they're they're amputating chunks of this empire for themselves.

862
00:49:58,119 --> 00:49:59,039
Speaker 1: I remember, what is it?

863
00:49:59,119 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 4: This? This?

864
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:03,079
Speaker 1: I think this relates somewhat to the previous topic that

865
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:07,440
we had with these universities. You know, I understand that

866
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,960
I'm actually I'm surrounded by three Catholics here, but I'm

867
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,880
going to make the comparison when Henry the Eighth seized

868
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,079
all of the monasteries in England when he when he

869
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:23,400
broke from the Catholic Church. I'm not going to I'm

870
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,880
not going to speak to theological issues. The church owned

871
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,400
one third of the land in England, you know, the

872
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,920
priests in England. I'm not going to speak to anywhere

873
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,679
else in Europe. The priests in England. We're living in

874
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:43,079
almost you know, extraordinary wealth, you know. And it like

875
00:50:43,159 --> 00:50:45,519
the universities in the last segment that I think of,

876
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,639
and you know, much like much like how the leite

877
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:54,880
that we have today are building these little communities. And

878
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,159
I think it started when the Wasps basically threw their

879
00:50:57,159 --> 00:50:59,320
hands up in the seventies and said we're cashing out.

880
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:02,639
And you can still they have their own little fortified community.

881
00:51:02,679 --> 00:51:05,119
Sam actual talk about them. They're in Cape Cod and

882
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:07,000
Martha's Vineyard. That's the ones that you know about. But

883
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:08,760
then there's a bunch of other town names you don't

884
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,400
know about. They're in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. They're in all

885
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,719
of these other places with their you know, multimillion dollar

886
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,880
houses and their controlled county governments, and it is walled

887
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,599
off and you can't get in and they live amongst

888
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:26,719
each other, and that's that's how this works. And you know,

889
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,719
I agree with you that I don't want to just

890
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,559
I don't want to see them just get away with it.

891
00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:34,199
But at the same time, it's like, well, what can

892
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,559
you do? What can you do to to hold them

893
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:40,800
accountable to this? We have a money based system. Unless

894
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,920
you're willing to appeal to a power higher than gold,

895
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:47,559
then I don't know. I don't think there's anything that

896
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:48,519
can be done here.

897
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 3: I'll drop the text and I'll drop the texts in

898
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,159
the text in the chat here so you guys can

899
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,239
read it in your own time.

900
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: Is this is one of those that undergraduate thesis that

901
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:04,800
you are that graduate level.

902
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:09,679
Speaker 3: Thesis that's a different one. These are the meeting minutes

903
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,039
between the Roman Senate survived the fall of the Western

904
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:17,000
Empire and became subject to the Ostro Gothic Kings, so

905
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:20,480
they functioned as the as the as the they functioned

906
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,119
as the bureaucratic state under the Gothic kings, and the

907
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:28,239
Gothic kings, being autistic, Germans recorded the meeting minutes, so

908
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,880
you get to see the dialogues between the Roman senators

909
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,480
and the Gothic Kings as the Gothic Kings kind of

910
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:36,760
like set up a medieval dodge department to figure out

911
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,920
what the hell went wrong here?

912
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,199
Speaker 1: Odo Waker did nothing wrong.

913
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: At one point he just berates the senator, this one senator,

914
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,880
for living tax free for three generations and not having

915
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,320
paid a single senate taxes for the local roads that

916
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,840
were now incomplete disrepair. And he's just yelling at him, like,

917
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,079
why haven't you paid for the roads? Why haven't you

918
00:52:57,079 --> 00:52:59,880
repaid the rebuilt the aqueducts. So why haven't you rebuilt

919
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,960
the ridges? You're you're surrounded by like like a third

920
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,360
world state. Well, you're living in the palace with your

921
00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:08,800
pristine town. Why aren't you contributing to the Italian commonwealth?

922
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,599
Speaker 1: You know, that reminds me of some of the best

923
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:15,360
universities in the South and and elsewhere. Johns, Hopkins and

924
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,960
Duke immediately come to mine, in Baltimore and in Durham, respectively,

925
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:23,960
is that they are these like perfect little Ivory Tower.

926
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,480
Princeton's another great example, like beautiful places, beautiful campus is

927
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,000
well maintained, and they are just surrounded by the worst

928
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:37,159
ghetto in the country. Almost you know, it's it's almost

929
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,119
unbelievable to contrast. And I can see the I can

930
00:53:41,159 --> 00:53:43,639
see that exact thing that you're you're speaking of there,

931
00:53:43,679 --> 00:53:46,039
and I think part of it is, you know, Alex Jones,

932
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:47,599
and I know I'm gonna cite him, but he has

933
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:48,800
that I don't know if he got if I got

934
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,360
it from him, or if he got it from someone.

935
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,079
But it's this concept of what's called a breakaway civilization.

936
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,079
Speaker 4: You know.

937
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:58,119
Speaker 1: I think that the the elite of any society, especially

938
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:01,760
when you add wealth and power to the mix, the

939
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,199
elite of any society start seeing each other as the

940
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,280
society and they start looking at the people under them

941
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,920
in any circumstance. As you know, I don't want to

942
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,840
be lured here, but let's just say foreigners is the

943
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,880
right way of saying it. And that's not even within

944
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,320
their conception. Because we look at the world as you know,

945
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,239
or the German kings look at the look at this country,

946
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,199
look at the world as it's a commonwealth. It's like,

947
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:28,800
you know, we're all we're all trying to push into

948
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,840
the same goal. We all have to live here, you know.

949
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,840
But that's because we're middle class. That's because we're in

950
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,679
the middle. That's because we're the ones who maintain the

951
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:39,119
country and the people who reap most of the benefit

952
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,800
just simply don't look at it that way, you know.

953
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,719
So I'm sure there's a psychology aspect to it. And

954
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,480
we had we had a funny little clip as to

955
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,079
to to to demonstrate the state of the national parks

956
00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:54,519
where they're in. It's like you want to strip mind them.

957
00:54:54,519 --> 00:54:56,599
It's like, well they're already kind of being strip mined.

958
00:54:56,679 --> 00:55:05,880
Look who's Look who's inhabiting all of them?

959
00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:06,199
Speaker 4: You know.

960
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,159
Speaker 1: It's a great live stream when we're forgetting to bring

961
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,079
up our clips because the conversation is is is that

962
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,199
Niagara Falls?

963
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, ah, oh, well that's.

964
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 4: Been that's been India and Central for Ages. But I

965
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,360
can see there's even more now wow.

966
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that means you ended up being a nothing

967
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,960
burger though unfortunate.

968
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 2: Oh man, I can't even that's where my that's where

969
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,440
my parents went on their honeymoon.

970
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,519
Speaker 1: Falls.

971
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was something that people used to do.

972
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

973
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's probably one of the one

974
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,119
of the nicer places in the country back when they

975
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:53,480
did it.

976
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:58,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, back in the sixties. Definitely, although I hate

977
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,960
to say it. I think that's the Canadian side you're

978
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:00,519
looking at.

979
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:04,519
Speaker 1: Well, they got to go somewhere. They can't all stay

980
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:08,960
up there. Yeah, but no, I mean, you know, one

981
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,599
of the things that I've particularly liked in a turn

982
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,280
is is environmentalism and the concept of environmental preservation as

983
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,480
you know, an issue that's no longer monopolized by the

984
00:56:17,519 --> 00:56:21,280
worst people on earth, because you know, just about everyone

985
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,320
would agree. Anyone who's like healthy and upstanding would agree

986
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,559
with you of a particular cultural background, would say that

987
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,280
it's probably important to preserve some aspect of the natural

988
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,119
environment instead of you know, just rolling it, particularly the

989
00:56:36,159 --> 00:56:40,159
beautiful parts the You know, I'm not going to cry

990
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:45,199
any tears when a patch of planes in Oklahoma gets developed,

991
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:48,800
but yeah, exactly, like like Teddy Roosevelt right there, like

992
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,559
of course, you know, we want to preserve a sort

993
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:57,159
of wild natural beauty which only became a thing when

994
00:56:57,159 --> 00:57:00,519
we have the capacity to utterly destroy the wild now beauty.

995
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:02,480
It's it's it's something that that I don't know if

996
00:57:02,519 --> 00:57:04,119
we can never get it back, but it's something that'll

997
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:07,000
be very hard to get back once you lose it,

998
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,480
and you know, the problem is is that in California,

999
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,239
particularly with how they manage forests, they do it in

1000
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:21,199
such a negligent, like retarded manner that everything is just

1001
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,880
left free like once you start. Once people start managing

1002
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,760
an environment, you can't stop managing it. You know that

1003
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,920
there's whole industries based around, uh for like forestry, it's

1004
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,880
based entirely around the health of forests, preventing blights, you know,

1005
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,480
keeping forest fires from happening at too large of an extent,

1006
00:57:38,519 --> 00:57:41,360
et cetera, et cetera. But you can't just like throw

1007
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,679
your hands up and like say, oh it's it's it's

1008
00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:47,880
back to Eden, you know it. You have to manage

1009
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,440
it somewhat. That's why park rangers exist, you know, That's

1010
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,400
why you have you have whole sub industries based around

1011
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,039
maintaining these park systems. But you can't do the opposite.

1012
00:57:57,079 --> 00:58:01,039
You can't just utterly flood them with invain of species.

1013
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,679
And you can choose to take that as a euphemism

1014
00:58:05,719 --> 00:58:10,159
if you want. You can't just just flood them with

1015
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,159
invasive species. And the problem is is that particularly with

1016
00:58:13,239 --> 00:58:17,639
these the problem with the National Park System isn't is

1017
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:22,800
not that it is not accessible enough it is that

1018
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,280
it is. It has been made too accessible, it has

1019
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,000
been made too easy for people who don't care for

1020
00:58:29,039 --> 00:58:30,960
the environment to go there and treat it like it's

1021
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,639
the McDonald's parking lot. And that's something that I think,

1022
00:58:34,679 --> 00:58:37,159
you know, the club takes very seriously, and some thinkers

1023
00:58:37,159 --> 00:58:38,880
on the side of things take very seriously. And I'm

1024
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,400
very glad that that is a that is an issue

1025
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,760
that we've started reclaiming.

1026
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 4: I mean, in environmentalism has to be part of any

1027
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,840
kind of non progressive, right wing vision of human life,

1028
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,159
because the environment is a critical part of human thriving

1029
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,320
and we are not lying go up people. We are

1030
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,000
thriving and spiritual and physical thriving of humanity people. That

1031
00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:11,280
is our politics, and environment is a is a critical

1032
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:20,320
aspect of that. One one question I have is, I mean,

1033
00:59:21,239 --> 00:59:25,239
why is it all of a sudden Indians at national parks.

1034
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:29,559
I never knew many Indians who were that outdoorsy. I

1035
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:33,440
guess I'm surprised. I forget who was telling me this.

1036
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: It may have been our very own red Hawk, our

1037
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,320
president that if you go up to in Michigan, in

1038
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,599
northern Michigan and the some of the some of the

1039
00:59:42,639 --> 00:59:45,480
Mitten up there. Yeah, the up you said the National

1040
00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:46,920
parks are over run by them up there.

1041
00:59:48,119 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 4: Interesting. I mean, I I know, never Nagara Falls, because

1042
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,400
Nagara Falls is that's where they all have the weddings, right,

1043
00:59:55,039 --> 00:59:59,320
But i'd be I'm surprised to see, Yeah, they're not

1044
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,159
you to Indians I've known have not been very outdoorsy.

1045
01:00:02,199 --> 01:00:03,239
So that's an interesting thing.

1046
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,519
Speaker 1: Well. I what I've had, how I've had it explain,

1047
01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:13,280
is it's largely for clout, particularly with social media. All

1048
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,920
of the best overlooks, all of the most beautiful views

1049
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,039
or whatever, are the most accessible by car, or at

1050
01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:23,400
least the most iconic ones, and so what happens is

1051
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,280
is they all crowded. I saw this with the Blue

1052
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:30,480
Ridge Parkway or Skyline Drive I think two years ago,

1053
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,079
which is unfortunately proximate to northern Virginia, where a great

1054
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:36,960
deal of these people live and have lived for a

1055
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,079
very long time, or at least for my life. And

1056
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,039
we were driving by one of the entrances to Skyline

1057
01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:50,960
Drive and the entrance was packed halfway down the mountain. Right,

1058
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:55,599
there was a traffic jam all the way halfway down

1059
01:00:55,679 --> 01:00:57,880
the mountain that you have to drive up to get

1060
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,679
into the Shenandoah Valley where you know, right by the

1061
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,239
skyline drive and it was all Tesla's and and these

1062
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,840
these other that's that's someone who drives a Tesla's is

1063
01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:13,320
it's a pretty good euphemism. And I saw them and

1064
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,159
it's it's it's like, okay, so you're just you just

1065
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:17,119
you're just trying to get onto the trail, drive to

1066
01:01:17,159 --> 01:01:20,320
the first overlook, take a photo at the overlook to

1067
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,599
put on your social media, your LinkedIn or whatever, right

1068
01:01:25,079 --> 01:01:27,840
for for clicks. That's kind of what it that that's

1069
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,480
what drives them to these places. These are prestigious places

1070
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,559
within the society. It's the same reason why they'll go

1071
01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:36,320
on like a quote unquote ski trip. But they'll it'll

1072
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,440
be like, you know, they go to the Bunny Slope

1073
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,199
and then they they go and they get a photo

1074
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:42,559
taken and that's that's all that they do. It's it's

1075
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:46,440
it's entirely for this vapid so like, oh look at me.

1076
01:01:46,679 --> 01:01:50,599
I'm you know, outdoorsy. I'm it's it's very oriental, it's

1077
01:01:50,679 --> 01:01:56,880
very performative, and it's uh causing a lot of issues.

1078
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 4: I can imagine. I mean, I know this is this

1079
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:05,719
is sort of the artificiality of all experience is going

1080
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,880
to be something have to be something that we take

1081
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,320
more seriously these days, and it's not helping. Like the

1082
01:02:11,639 --> 01:02:14,920
huge sort of cultural diversience of our society is not

1083
01:02:15,039 --> 01:02:19,079
helping this problem.

1084
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,639
Speaker 1: Absolutely anything else in the National parks. Before we move

1085
01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:26,840
on to our to our next topic, or actually, real quick,

1086
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,039
before we before we move on to our next topic,

1087
01:02:29,159 --> 01:02:31,079
we're going to hit super chats, but any any final

1088
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:32,199
comments before we do that.

1089
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: I was just looking.

1090
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 4: I'll stay for the first super chats, but I have

1091
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,119
to probably sign out for.

1092
01:02:42,159 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: That, understood. Thank you very much for joining us day.

1093
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 4: Oh no, my pleasure is a great time.

1094
01:02:48,719 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: Let me let let me see if oh go ahead.

1095
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,679
Speaker 3: I did find one of my favorite meeting minutes by

1096
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,719
Theodork to the Roman Senate, in which he lam bess

1097
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,639
the editors for dishonoring their heritage, for fail to take

1098
01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:05,320
care of their own.

1099
01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:07,079
Speaker 2: You won't hear it or later on.

1100
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: After please please go ahead.

1101
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 3: This is letter twenty four to the Senate of Rome.

1102
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:16,639
He speaks to a lot in third person, like we

1103
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,519
as in the King, We here with sorrow by the

1104
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:22,719
report of the Provisional judges, that you, the fathers of

1105
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,519
the state, who ought to set an example to your sons,

1106
01:03:26,639 --> 01:03:30,119
the ordinary citizens, have been so remiss in the payment

1107
01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:33,400
of taxes that on the first collection nothing, or next

1108
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,400
nothing has been brought in from the senatorial houses. Thus

1109
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,320
a crushing weight has fallen on the lower orders of

1110
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,320
citizens who have had to make good on your deficiencies

1111
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,159
and have been distruught by the violence of the tax gatherers. Now, then,

1112
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,239
conscript fathers who owe as much duty to the republic

1113
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,239
as do as we do, pay the taxes for for

1114
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,400
which each one of you is liable to the pro

1115
01:03:59,519 --> 01:04:04,400
creators appointed in each province by three installments, or if

1116
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,320
you prefer to do so, and is and is used

1117
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,360
to be accounted by the by your privilege, pay it

1118
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,719
all at once into the chest of the state's coffers.

1119
01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:17,480
And let this follow and need to be published, that

1120
01:04:17,559 --> 01:04:20,400
all the privileged provincials may know that they are not

1121
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,559
to be imposed upon, and that they are invited into

1122
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:27,880
your state for grievances, like he's basically said telling them,

1123
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,440
if you don't pay your taxes, I'm going to let

1124
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,400
the commoners legally enter your state and complain to you

1125
01:04:33,679 --> 01:04:36,440
and like throw a hissy fit, and he just goes

1126
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,679
on at this like like there's dozens of letters like

1127
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:41,719
this in which he discovers like they haven't paid taxes

1128
01:04:41,719 --> 01:04:44,280
in four or five generations, and the local roads have

1129
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,679
gone to the to the swamp. Basically, it's it's just

1130
01:04:47,719 --> 01:04:50,800
an endless like berating. He's he literally sets up a

1131
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,079
commissioner for efficient like a government efficiency. I think it's

1132
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:57,079
called something like like Efficiency in the Finances, where it's

1133
01:04:57,079 --> 01:05:00,159
basically a medieval dodge department to investigate the Senate our

1134
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,280
losses and where their money is gone.

1135
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: Reminds me of when they sent the legals to frigging

1136
01:05:07,559 --> 01:05:10,039
Martha's vineyard, which I thought was a brilliant move.

1137
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not new this, these these patterns repeat

1138
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,599
many times anyway. To the super chests.

1139
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:25,519
Speaker 1: Indeed, first one from Maple copper Head. Maple Copperhead for

1140
01:05:25,679 --> 01:05:30,760
ten US dollars, he says, salute from the James Oglethorpe Society,

1141
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,559
your old Glory club brothers in Georgia. Well, thank you,

1142
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:36,239
mister Copperhead, and I salute you back for the James

1143
01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:40,559
Oglethorpe Society. Thank you for tuning in. Next brings us

1144
01:05:40,599 --> 01:05:44,239
to Solid Snake nineteen sixty four for ten dollars. He says,

1145
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,599
evening gents so glad to see something that is being

1146
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:50,159
done about the army of Chinese quote students unquote that

1147
01:05:50,199 --> 01:05:53,400
have infested at our universities. I didn't go to university,

1148
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,960
but even Vegas is was infested with them. Yeah, that's

1149
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,599
the thing. That's something I've noticed. It's you know, everyone

1150
01:05:58,599 --> 01:06:01,599
who I talked to who's involved in any sort of

1151
01:06:01,679 --> 01:06:04,519
graduate level education, and even PhD like they'll say, like

1152
01:06:04,559 --> 01:06:07,679
every PhD department in STEM, or graduate department in STEM

1153
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,280
is just overrun by Chinese nationals.

1154
01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's such a problem. Even I'm still having

1155
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,760
like nightmares from when i was a student. It was

1156
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,519
a problem in my undergrad years, and it was a

1157
01:06:21,559 --> 01:06:26,920
bigger problem like graduate years. And they just they help

1158
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,840
each other cheat unbelievably. Usually there's like one guy who's

1159
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,400
like the son of some government guy in China, and

1160
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,280
he'll get a little click of like various sons of

1161
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,239
corporate people and he'll just like order one to do

1162
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,119
the assignment and then everyone benefits from that and they

1163
01:06:43,239 --> 01:06:45,440
just copy paste everything and if they get caught, they

1164
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,519
don't give a shit because they're paying double the tuition

1165
01:06:48,639 --> 01:06:53,559
of what Americans do, and the university wants that money.

1166
01:06:53,679 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: All of our solutions are fed posts Solid Snake nineteen

1167
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,320
sixty four. Again for dollars, he says. Also, Asha Logos'

1168
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,039
YouTube channel, in my opinion, is top tier stuff. His

1169
01:07:05,159 --> 01:07:08,239
video on the wing Tsars I thought was presented masterfully.

1170
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,599
Snake approved, even in a salute I used to watch.

1171
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,519
I don't haven't seen his stuff recently, but thank you,

1172
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:21,880
mister Solid Snake. Then mister Padre speaks for five dollars,

1173
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,880
he says, listening to raw, distilled American culture before the

1174
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,039
stream starts as I read a battle tech novel as

1175
01:07:29,079 --> 01:07:31,280
cozy as it gets on a rainy night in upstate

1176
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,320
South Carolina.

1177
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 4: At the conference, one of my favorite conversations was having

1178
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,760
he has explained to me the sublime American aesthetics of

1179
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:48,039
battle Tech and how it was it carried forward the

1180
01:07:48,119 --> 01:07:54,719
kind of like top gun American maverick style attitude into

1181
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,320
like a future, a Star Wars future.

1182
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: I never got into battle Tech, neither.

1183
01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:03,679
Speaker 4: Of I, but it was really cool to hear.

1184
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I used to sell it when I worked

1185
01:08:06,679 --> 01:08:09,599
at a at a hobby store, but I know Mandrel's

1186
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:13,039
really big into it. Mister Padre speaks. In case you

1187
01:08:13,079 --> 01:08:15,480
haven't heard, there is a South Carolina chapter of the

1188
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:17,800
Old Glory Club that is currently spinning up that we

1189
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,079
can get you in touch with if you're still listening.

1190
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:25,079
Caleb for nineteen dollars and ninety nine cents, He said,

1191
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:28,279
Dave really enjoyed your appearance on the Gauntlet this year.

1192
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,119
El Templar, I curse Vishnu. Now blast that whistle boys,

1193
01:08:32,119 --> 01:08:34,479
and let's support seventy five million. All right, let's get it.

1194
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,199
Let's get a whistle for the super chat.

1195
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,520
Speaker 4: I can't even remember what I talked about on the Gauntlet,

1196
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,840
but yeah, it's a it's a good show.

1197
01:08:50,119 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I just remember I haven't talked to He

1198
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,159
doesn't go by Lamba anymore, does he?

1199
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 4: I don't know his YouTube channel still called.

1200
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,039
Speaker 3: That Okay, Yeah, I haven't talked to him in like

1201
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:01,640
a good year.

1202
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,399
Speaker 4: I have to say hi again. Yeah. It's kind of

1203
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,720
funny that the space has gotten so big that I'm

1204
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,239
just losing contact with people based on virtual distance, Like

1205
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:14,760
I just can't. I can't keep track of everyone in

1206
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,840
the space anymore. So I guess naturally, there's going to

1207
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,439
be just some people you have to move away from.

1208
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 2: Miss.

1209
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 4: There so many different things going on, all right.

1210
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,079
Speaker 1: Moving on. Next up is a ske bum two twenty

1211
01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:34,479
for uh. He sends in a super chat for twenty

1212
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,840
five dollars. Thank you very kindly, sir, and he sends

1213
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,680
a salute. Well, I salute you back, thank you for

1214
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:40,399
joining us, sir.

1215
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,199
Speaker 4: Indian ski bum would be a great online moniker.

1216
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be Memphisippi for file. I'm sorry for

1217
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,880
this one, Dave, Memphisippi for five dollars. He says, here's

1218
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,279
one dollar for every twenty IQ points Dave had as

1219
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:04,239
human capital is inevitable and it's so over for the

1220
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:05,239
for the woke.

1221
01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that was like the copness after a little trolling.

1222
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,920
It's called me a little troller on Twitter. When I

1223
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,520
was like reposting my arguments. He was just talking about

1224
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,560
how I was just too low IQ to understand his

1225
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,039
trust the experts like elite human capital or like an expert.

1226
01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:25,159
Is anybody who I say is an expert, which is

1227
01:10:25,159 --> 01:10:28,359
basically his position. And now he's going after what is

1228
01:10:28,399 --> 01:10:31,359
that guy he's going after, like Lang Chris Langan? I

1229
01:10:31,399 --> 01:10:34,840
think like he's going after his IQ. He's trying to

1230
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,399
two hundred and fifteen IQ, Yeah, exactly, but he's trying

1231
01:10:38,399 --> 01:10:40,399
to deep bunk it. He's trying to deep bunk it, right,

1232
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:44,279
because I believe Nathan Coughness was also originally like he

1233
01:10:44,359 --> 01:10:46,399
was one of the original people that was trying to

1234
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:52,359
debunk what is that culture of critique Kevin Kevin McDonald

1235
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,720
Ken McDonald, Yeah, he was originally trying to deep bunk

1236
01:10:54,800 --> 01:11:00,199
Kevin McDonald. And you know, uh, that's sort of his

1237
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:08,800
angle on HBD. You might imagine, am I implying things

1238
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,399
too hard? I'm sorry, but.

1239
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:16,159
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's the the IQ

1240
01:11:16,319 --> 01:11:19,920
obsession has kind of become a little cringe at this stage,

1241
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:21,920
at least in that stare.

1242
01:11:22,079 --> 01:11:24,039
Speaker 4: But whatever, Well, I.

1243
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: Think people are kind of realizing that virtue and moral character. Sure,

1244
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,720
there may be a little bit of an IQ element

1245
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,840
to that, but like it. You know, we've seen we've

1246
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,159
seen enough really smart people with high IQs lie to

1247
01:11:36,279 --> 01:11:39,039
us and you know, basically try to kill us. So

1248
01:11:39,159 --> 01:11:41,880
I think I think IQ is out of fashion.

1249
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's more important to know who you can.

1250
01:11:45,279 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: Trust exactly, who's up next death for five dollars. I

1251
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:58,039
noticed that a small group of people, the Security Council,

1252
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,000
run all the shots in Russia. All of them are

1253
01:12:01,039 --> 01:12:04,319
ethnic Russian, not rootless Cosmopolitans.

1254
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:10,279
Speaker 2: I shared a video, I think in the comments earlier

1255
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,920
of a I think it was a rabbi or some

1256
01:12:14,279 --> 01:12:18,600
like higher up saying that all anyone of Jewish descent

1257
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,279
needs to get out of Russia. That it's not safe

1258
01:12:22,279 --> 01:12:25,800
to be in Russia. It's not safe for Jews to

1259
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:30,399
be in Russia. But Putins of Putin's of Russian a

1260
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,520
Jewish puppet, so you know, try to figure we'll figure

1261
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,800
that out, or it's probably just a grand plot. He's

1262
01:12:36,119 --> 01:12:38,319
he's part of the k fabe and everything like that.

1263
01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:42,279
I can't stand these people. Some of these people are

1264
01:12:42,279 --> 01:12:46,680
bigger Zionists than like Theodore Hertzel. They think that like

1265
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,079
they're they're they're they're like ubermensches or something like that

1266
01:12:50,199 --> 01:12:51,960
is amazing you.

1267
01:12:52,079 --> 01:12:55,239
Speaker 3: The Biden's cabinet was captured. Look at Pud's cabinet.

1268
01:12:58,279 --> 01:13:04,159
Speaker 1: Oh my godness, Hunger, good friend of ours. For twenty dollars,

1269
01:13:04,199 --> 01:13:07,960
he says, Dave, you're great and very high IQ. At

1270
01:13:08,039 --> 01:13:11,119
least it counterbalances the previous one, and he gave us

1271
01:13:11,119 --> 01:13:13,079
more money. He gave us more money, So I guess

1272
01:13:13,079 --> 01:13:16,399
we're going to count his as true. But the fact

1273
01:13:16,399 --> 01:13:19,199
that you had but the fact you had to show

1274
01:13:19,239 --> 01:13:23,119
a dartboard graph to explain lying is worse than incompetence.

1275
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:28,000
Is an indictment on their morality, not Intelicans. They know

1276
01:13:28,159 --> 01:13:31,960
they're lying for political gain. We know they're lying. They

1277
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,520
know we know. Everything after that is post hawk rationalization.

1278
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to come to this perspective, one layer

1279
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,119
or the other. And this is the reason why I'm

1280
01:13:42,159 --> 01:13:45,159
part of the right wing is because it's the only

1281
01:13:45,359 --> 01:13:48,319
place where people are actually having conversations that mean anything.

1282
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,119
Have you Like, I know you guys don't look at

1283
01:13:51,199 --> 01:13:54,520
leftist media, but it is like it is the far

1284
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:59,800
left media sphere has They've gotten nothing. They're talking about

1285
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,000
now thing, they're just it's just a giant cope session.

1286
01:14:03,079 --> 01:14:07,640
They're not even exploring interesting ideas. Uh, it's a little

1287
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,479
bit interesting to see the New York Times try to

1288
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:13,600
reposition itself and get to a new a new narrative,

1289
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:18,119
kind of a Gavin Newsom transformation. But everyone else outside

1290
01:14:18,319 --> 01:14:21,880
of right wing and right wing adjacent, adjacent serrus is

1291
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:26,279
just not talking about anything that's meaningful. It seems beautiful.

1292
01:14:26,359 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 2: Swor vent a black hole I made that.

1293
01:14:32,199 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 3: There's an account you to. I do pay attention to

1294
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,159
kind of like fringe left wing accounts on YouTube just

1295
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:44,159
to see if if anything is breaking their control mechanisms.

1296
01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:49,319
That there's this account uh aid Aiden Hall. He made

1297
01:14:49,319 --> 01:14:53,000
a video called who Broke the Democrats? And most of

1298
01:14:53,039 --> 01:14:58,600
it is is slop. It's it's basically reinforcing the Democrat

1299
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:04,239
into internal dialects. But he does bring up a few

1300
01:15:04,359 --> 01:15:06,800
interesting points, but but it's it's a good example of

1301
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,279
how they're completely lost. And the view the video is

1302
01:15:09,279 --> 01:15:13,439
like two thousand views on YouTube. It's they're clearly talking

1303
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,960
about these things, but they're just repeating the party line

1304
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,479
a lot of times. It's it's they're completely lost of

1305
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:19,680
any future endeavors.

1306
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: It seems.

1307
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's there's I don't know. I don't want to

1308
01:15:25,279 --> 01:15:29,840
se the left is out, but something very serious has

1309
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:34,920
broken inside their system, and it's almost more likely that

1310
01:15:35,319 --> 01:15:39,439
the right wing is sort of the future of of

1311
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,439
of what young people believe in this country, at least

1312
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,800
who are native born. Because I don't know what else.

1313
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,600
I mean, I guess there's there's still women. They're still

1314
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,680
college educated women, but they're they're sort of like the

1315
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:57,000
ultimate kind of compliance joiner agreeableness types. So when when

1316
01:15:57,039 --> 01:15:59,159
the when the Democrats are on the back, but they

1317
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:02,199
don't have any idea, they're just trying to look for

1318
01:16:02,359 --> 01:16:07,479
who to join and there's there's no answer, so it

1319
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,800
just kind of goes off an in coherence.

1320
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,560
Speaker 3: The New York mayor race will be something to pay

1321
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:20,319
attention because I mean there's like Azahon or something, the

1322
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,720
weird Muslim guy. They're trying to pull a Sundi con

1323
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,319
in Manhattan, the Democrats, and it'll be interesting to see

1324
01:16:27,319 --> 01:16:29,439
if it if it falls flat on its face as

1325
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,279
like a relic of a yester year woke or if

1326
01:16:32,319 --> 01:16:38,520
they still some remnant woke strength in the cities. Pay

1327
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,399
attention to it when it happens. It's it's this year.

1328
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,439
It's not next year. It's November fourth. This year is

1329
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,520
our election for New York, and it will be worth

1330
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,119
paying attention to see how how it goes. I think

1331
01:16:50,399 --> 01:16:53,000
I think Eric Adams is running as an independent because

1332
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,039
he got kicked out of the Democrat candidacies.

1333
01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:03,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it, I don't know. I mean, I

1334
01:17:04,039 --> 01:17:05,760
get the sense that they're trying to pull back the

1335
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,960
whole city con revolution in London as well. They the

1336
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,199
powers that be, So I have no idea where this

1337
01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:15,840
is going to go. But I don't know. There's this

1338
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,520
an opportunity here, like there's this an opportunity here to

1339
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,199
organizing young men is exactly where everyone needs to be

1340
01:17:24,239 --> 01:17:27,279
thinking right now. And I'm not so sure. I mean,

1341
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:30,359
it's it's amazing that that that there aren't more people

1342
01:17:30,359 --> 01:17:33,479
trying to do it, because it's absolutely the thing that

1343
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,600
we should be doing, or anyone should be doing. Who's

1344
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,960
who wants to actually change anything?

1345
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,119
Speaker 1: On that note, join the Old Glory Club. Join your

1346
01:17:42,119 --> 01:17:44,079
local chapter of the Old Glory Club. You don't have

1347
01:17:44,079 --> 01:17:46,319
a local chapter the Old Glory Club, get one started.

1348
01:17:46,359 --> 01:17:49,079
You just need five other guys and to spin one

1349
01:17:49,119 --> 01:17:52,960
up in the or to to incorporate in whatever state

1350
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,640
that you're in, and we'll handle it, will handle everything

1351
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,760
else for you. So get involved. It is the It

1352
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,359
is the best political a of course, we are not

1353
01:18:01,399 --> 01:18:04,920
a political organization. The best political act is to avoid

1354
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:09,079
politics and to build community with your with your with

1355
01:18:09,119 --> 01:18:13,119
your brothers in the OGC, so get involved if you can.

1356
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,720
And this is this will be the This next super

1357
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:20,319
chat will be our last super chat before we go

1358
01:18:20,399 --> 01:18:22,399
back to our next topic. We have a bunch of others,

1359
01:18:22,399 --> 01:18:24,399
but we'll save those for the end. And it is

1360
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,800
from one hundred counts for ten US dollars. Thank you, sir,

1361
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,119
and he says, great to see Dave on an OGC stream.

1362
01:18:30,159 --> 01:18:32,600
It is great to see you Dave on the stream.

1363
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:33,039
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1364
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 4: I should do more, but I'm just the time thing.

1365
01:18:39,239 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely well. On that note, Dave, I know you said

1366
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,800
you had to get going here, so you're you're free

1367
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,479
to do so. Thank you very much for joining us.

1368
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. I'll talk to

1369
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:48,039
guys later.

1370
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,079
Speaker 2: Take care, take care O bye.

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01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,279
Speaker 1: And then there were three. All right, Now that Dave's gone,

1372
01:18:56,279 --> 01:18:59,279
we can actually get into the fun topics. So I

1373
01:18:59,319 --> 01:19:03,800
would I would personally, I would personally like to issue

1374
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,319
on behalf of the old Glory Club a congratulations. I

1375
01:19:07,359 --> 01:19:09,079
can't issue I don't have the authority to do that

1376
01:19:09,119 --> 01:19:13,479
sort of thing, but I do want to issue congratulations

1377
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:20,720
to mister George Floyd of Minneapolis, Minnesota for five years

1378
01:19:21,279 --> 01:19:31,079
no felonies. Congratulations sir, I mean, who knew, who knew,

1379
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:32,399
who knew?

1380
01:19:32,399 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 2: That's what was gonna That's what it was going to

1381
01:19:35,039 --> 01:19:40,079
take to get him drug free. Some people just they

1382
01:19:40,119 --> 01:19:41,319
need all the help they can get.

1383
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 1: You know, we can rebuild him. We have rebuilt him.

1384
01:19:48,039 --> 01:19:50,680
He that's the you know, all he needs, all he

1385
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:55,199
needs is a unlimited supply of fent and he can

1386
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,640
do unbelievable things.

1387
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 2: I mean, this is some who could have, you know,

1388
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:07,039
his life cut short, he could have cured cancer, helped

1389
01:20:07,279 --> 01:20:14,319
Musk terraform mars. I'm it's a great loss. And I'm

1390
01:20:14,359 --> 01:20:17,760
sure by this point, you know, Trayvon Martin would have

1391
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,560
figured out how to feed all of the poor in

1392
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,760
the world. So let's let's remember.

1393
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: Let's remember the fallen well, you know he was, he

1394
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:31,239
was an aspiring philosopher too, you know, the the statement

1395
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,720
that he had, you know, this young generation is clearly lost.

1396
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,359
Man clearly lost. And you know, he was at a

1397
01:20:37,359 --> 01:20:40,000
loss for words. I think I think would very much

1398
01:20:40,039 --> 01:20:45,119
betrayed a A A twenty first century Plato. And it's

1399
01:20:45,159 --> 01:20:47,359
it's a very deep shame that we did lose him.

1400
01:20:48,279 --> 01:20:49,199
Speaker 4: The word.

1401
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:51,319
Speaker 2: So true.

1402
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: But May twenty and twenty five marks five years since

1403
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:03,760
the George Floyd incident occurred, which was the thing on

1404
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,119
that I don't even know how to describe it. It was

1405
01:21:06,119 --> 01:21:09,159
almost a religious incident, you know, some sort of mass

1406
01:21:09,159 --> 01:21:14,159
psychosis event that shaped the country and kicked off the

1407
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,319
Summer of Some people called it the Summer of Love,

1408
01:21:17,399 --> 01:21:18,960
but I think we all call it the Summer of

1409
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:24,239
Floyd because it better exemplifies it. And it feels like

1410
01:21:24,319 --> 01:21:26,359
it was like forty years ago. It doesn't feel like

1411
01:21:26,399 --> 01:21:28,119
it was five years ago. I don't know if you

1412
01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:29,239
gentlemen disagree.

1413
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:35,399
Speaker 3: You know, I remember I was still fairly liberal back then,

1414
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,399
and I remember all the churches trying to turn them

1415
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:42,359
into a saint, and for a brief time, I was

1416
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,279
leaning towards falling fort But once I started reading that

1417
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,640
autopsy report, I was like, oh, this is another bullshit thing,

1418
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,880
And it's one of those nexus points I can look

1419
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,239
back on and say that that's when I stopped being

1420
01:21:54,239 --> 01:21:58,680
looked hearted. That's when like the veil collapsed.

1421
01:22:00,119 --> 01:22:04,079
Speaker 2: For most. Yeah, it's one of those things where it's

1422
01:22:04,119 --> 01:22:07,079
like I'm sitting there and I'm watching an obvious criminal

1423
01:22:08,279 --> 01:22:14,680
and then there's George Floyd in the picture, and you know,

1424
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:18,119
it's like, who who do you root for? And it's like, well,

1425
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:25,079
you know, I struggle with this. I see a certain

1426
01:22:25,119 --> 01:22:31,239
class of certain class in this a certain class. It's

1427
01:22:31,239 --> 01:22:35,399
supposed to be a protector, being a protector of the

1428
01:22:35,399 --> 01:22:37,760
people who came here afterwards, or the people who do

1429
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,680
the thirteen that do sixty instead of you know, heritage

1430
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,960
Americans and the people who actually care about this country.

1431
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,880
And it's something that I struggle with. So the N word, you.

1432
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: Know what the N word is.

1433
01:22:51,000 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 6: It's yeah, if you want to understand idolatry, okay, if

1434
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:07,000
you want to understand the inborne.

1435
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,319
Speaker 1: We're all Christians here, you know, we know this. We

1436
01:23:08,359 --> 01:23:11,199
all know this. Every human being that was ever created

1437
01:23:11,279 --> 01:23:14,560
has this slot in their mind where God is supposed

1438
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,880
to go. Every human being cannot help but worship in

1439
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,039
some way or in some form some thing. And a

1440
01:23:23,039 --> 01:23:24,720
lot of people think, oh, well, no, we're in the

1441
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,199
we're in the twenty first century. It's it's this is

1442
01:23:27,239 --> 01:23:28,880
this is another this is kind of trite. No one

1443
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,399
really thinks this. But it's like a lot of people

1444
01:23:31,159 --> 01:23:34,680
at least previously struggled to see what the idols of

1445
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,760
this world are. And that's kind of like asking a

1446
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:42,840
fish what waters is. But George Floyd and what spawned

1447
01:23:43,079 --> 01:23:48,600
around him is I think the clearest and most blatant

1448
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:55,560
example of idolatry that we can find. It's like, I

1449
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,319
think it's in the Book of Daniel. It's like, it's

1450
01:23:57,319 --> 01:24:01,720
like when Nebek and Ezzard raised up the statue and

1451
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,640
ordered everyone to to lay down before it to worship it.

1452
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,279
I don't know if correct me, if that's wrong. I

1453
01:24:08,279 --> 01:24:12,520
think that's in the Book of Daniel. Yeah, and and

1454
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,439
and and have everyone worship it. And it's it's a

1455
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,039
similar thing. It's it's just a very blatant and obvious

1456
01:24:18,199 --> 01:24:22,159
you know, you at churches, you know it the site

1457
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:25,920
of his death became became a site of pilgrimage. People

1458
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,479
were getting baptized there.

1459
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:29,079
Speaker 7: You know.

1460
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 4: It was.

1461
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:38,159
Speaker 2: A weird time the status of him. Basically, what it

1462
01:24:38,319 --> 01:24:43,479
told me was that we were yeah, I remember and

1463
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,399
remember at the same time, we're still most of the

1464
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:51,000
country is still going through COVID lockdowns, all of these things,

1465
01:24:51,039 --> 01:24:54,760
you know, the arguments over oh, you know, yeah, the

1466
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,800
virus is really dangerous, but it's more important to go

1467
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,680
out there and uh and mark for burn stuff down

1468
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:05,000
for racial justice. But really what that should have told

1469
01:25:05,039 --> 01:25:07,680
you is or should have told you, that the president

1470
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:12,439
is not in charge because he couldn't do anything. I mean,

1471
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,279
I if I were a president looking back, I don't

1472
01:25:15,279 --> 01:25:16,560
know what I would have done. But if I were

1473
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,880
a president now what you know, the way I am now,

1474
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,279
I would have put You know, one hundred and first

1475
01:25:25,359 --> 01:25:27,960
Airborne has been deployed to the streets of the United

1476
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:33,279
States before and put down riots. Did it, they did it,

1477
01:25:33,399 --> 01:25:35,840
did it in La twice, I believe. I think one

1478
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,439
hundred and first was in ninety two and with the

1479
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,319
wats riots in sixty seven. I don't know if it

1480
01:25:40,319 --> 01:25:42,640
was one hundred and first, but it was. There was definitely,

1481
01:25:43,239 --> 01:25:46,680
you know, troops on the street, and that's what needed

1482
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,600
to be done, and these people needed to be put down,

1483
01:25:49,279 --> 01:25:52,039
they needed I mean, I got this is my first,

1484
01:25:52,199 --> 01:25:55,880
uh one of I think my first Twitter account that

1485
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,640
I've never gotten back, the one I made in like

1486
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,600
two thousand and eight was nu because I said that

1487
01:26:02,039 --> 01:26:04,199
these are communists and we should shoot them dead in

1488
01:26:04,239 --> 01:26:08,800
the street. And I mean that's the same way I feel.

1489
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,520
And if it happens again, I don't think it's going

1490
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,319
to happen this summer, but it is coming. It will

1491
01:26:14,359 --> 01:26:18,119
be happening again, probably twenty twenty, probably twenty twenty eight,

1492
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,439
most definitely. We'll have some stuff in between now and then.

1493
01:26:22,279 --> 01:26:26,960
But these people need to be put down when they

1494
01:26:27,039 --> 01:26:30,439
do it. And if you don't do that, you're not

1495
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:36,039
a serious country. You're not a serious country.

1496
01:26:36,199 --> 01:26:40,520
Speaker 3: I really have to admit that. You know, at that

1497
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:44,560
time I was still a bit liptarted, but even a

1498
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:48,000
politically seeing Trump just do nothing as the country burned down,

1499
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:52,560
it left a certain bead taste in the mouth with Trump.

1500
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,920
I mean, I'm glad he's back. I'm very glad he's back,

1501
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,640
because I did not want the fucking parade of Biden's

1502
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,960
do nothing but four more years here. But just seeing

1503
01:27:03,039 --> 01:27:07,560
him complain and do nothing back then some degree there's

1504
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,800
there's an echo of that I'm feeling now in this

1505
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:15,680
second term. People forget, you know, like, yeah, Donald Trump

1506
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,000
was president when when that happened, right, so he he

1507
01:27:19,119 --> 01:27:22,840
had the the opportunity to rise above the occasion, and

1508
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:23,760
he just didn't.

1509
01:27:28,359 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. It's it's kind

1510
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,359
of the what is it? It's it's it's it, It heralded

1511
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:46,960
the It heralded the start of the crisis. I suppose

1512
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,640
that'll last throughout these you know, twenty twenties, or at

1513
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,479
least in the same way I think that the sixties

1514
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,359
led into the seventies. I think the Summer of Floyd

1515
01:27:56,359 --> 01:27:59,000
started the true crisis of the trumpet of the trump era,

1516
01:27:59,319 --> 01:28:04,000
which was you know, COVID and and the Color Revolution

1517
01:28:04,119 --> 01:28:09,000
which follows from it. And yeah, I believe in much

1518
01:28:09,039 --> 01:28:12,399
the same way that the sixties, in the crisis that

1519
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:17,680
the sixties brought about preceded the seventies. We haven't heard

1520
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,479
the last of the or at least it's been it's

1521
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:23,159
been much much more contained because we're all online. But

1522
01:28:23,279 --> 01:28:27,479
this crisis of the twenty twenties will lead into a

1523
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,439
sort of I guess, I guess a breakdown in the

1524
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,439
twenty thirties that'll be likened to the seventies. Whether it's

1525
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:36,319
it's as bad or worse is another matter, But yeah,

1526
01:28:36,359 --> 01:28:38,840
I mean, it's important to keep these things in mind.

1527
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:43,640
You said earlier cring E that there this is like

1528
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,760
the burn down of the Frond for public I might

1529
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,199
even liken it to the breakup of perhaps Yugoslavia, though

1530
01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:54,319
I don't know if there's enough of a political economy

1531
01:28:54,319 --> 01:28:56,359
in the United States outside of the government too.

1532
01:28:58,239 --> 01:29:00,560
Speaker 3: Was that was that a alarm?

1533
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 4: That beef?

1534
01:29:01,079 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 2: That was my air conditioner? There there is probably a

1535
01:29:06,079 --> 01:29:11,800
lot of similarities to Spain early nineteen thirties as well.

1536
01:29:12,319 --> 01:29:15,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to recommend a book that I've been

1537
01:29:15,319 --> 01:29:20,000
slowly working through, Richard Harris Justice, The Crisis of Law,

1538
01:29:20,119 --> 01:29:23,680
Order and Freedom in America. He was i think embedded

1539
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:28,640
in the Nixon and Johnson administrations, especially in the courts

1540
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:35,279
and documents what went wrong at that time? That the

1541
01:29:35,279 --> 01:29:37,720
subtext of this title is an alarming report on the

1542
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,000
very different uses made of the Justice Department by Ramsey

1543
01:29:41,039 --> 01:29:43,640
Clark and John Mitchell, which were with like the I

1544
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:47,079
think the AG's at the time. It is a really

1545
01:29:47,079 --> 01:29:51,239
good book written in what year was this should be

1546
01:29:51,239 --> 01:29:56,000
written here? Somewhere nineteen seventy right in the middle of it,

1547
01:29:56,319 --> 01:29:59,760
and it is quite prophetic from its time period of

1548
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:03,159
PubL location, as well as insightful in terms of how

1549
01:30:03,319 --> 01:30:06,640
institutions get captured and get used against the native population.

1550
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,640
I've been meaning to scan it in. It's quite a

1551
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:13,159
good book. It's about two hundred and fifty pages. I

1552
01:30:13,159 --> 01:30:15,720
don't even know if this book is in any libraries anymore.

1553
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:17,279
I found it in the garbage of one day and

1554
01:30:17,319 --> 01:30:21,800
it's like that looks interesting, and it was I'll maybe

1555
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:26,640
scan it, but it's Richard Harris's Justice. We'll seek it

1556
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:27,199
out if you can.

1557
01:30:29,359 --> 01:30:33,359
Speaker 1: Thank you for that recommendation. And yeah, I mean, you know,

1558
01:30:33,399 --> 01:30:36,199
the look at the I've been kind of on the

1559
01:30:36,319 --> 01:30:43,239
Vietnam War recently and Vietnam era films and things like that,

1560
01:30:43,319 --> 01:30:49,199
and that's kind of the Vietnam era is where you

1561
01:30:49,279 --> 01:30:52,920
kind of see the world that we currently inhabit. I've

1562
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,479
put this out before. I don't think we live in

1563
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,439
the post World War two order. I think the post

1564
01:30:56,479 --> 01:31:00,680
World War two order in Bretton Woods fell apart in

1565
01:31:01,319 --> 01:31:04,560
the latter I mean it fell apart after a couple

1566
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:09,840
of years after Korea and the sixties is kind of

1567
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:13,239
the true fun Well, it fell apart in around the

1568
01:31:13,279 --> 01:31:16,359
seventies is when it fell apart. But we don't live

1569
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,439
in the post World War two Breton Woods world order

1570
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,760
that that world order created the nineteen fifties and even

1571
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:27,640
the early nineteen sixties, which were somewhat decent times to

1572
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:32,039
be alive. We live in my opinion, in the post

1573
01:31:32,159 --> 01:31:37,119
Vietnam world order, which includes the nineteen or the post

1574
01:31:37,159 --> 01:31:40,159
civil rights world order, right when people are talking about

1575
01:31:40,239 --> 01:31:43,319
FDR FDRs is kind of ancient history at this point.

1576
01:31:43,319 --> 01:31:45,640
What they you know, who they really should be talking about,

1577
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:49,760
as LBJ is, you know, the kind of the man

1578
01:31:50,039 --> 01:31:54,239
who created this mess that has just kept continually reinforcing itself.

1579
01:31:54,239 --> 01:31:56,800
And there's a whole other history you can read into it,

1580
01:31:57,159 --> 01:32:05,880
but Vietnam and the Vietnam is exceptionally similar to COVID

1581
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:08,560
and what occurred in the twenty twenties. It was the

1582
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:10,560
first time that something like this was you know, you

1583
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,720
call it psyops these days, but what it basically was

1584
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:18,840
was the media and those who present information functionally all

1585
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:23,920
decided that we were going to lose this war in Vietnam,

1586
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:25,560
and they were going to do everything that they could

1587
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,000
to ensure that we were losing this war in Vietnam

1588
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,680
and to present that image to the American public, no

1589
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:36,000
matter what the facts were, in order to further their

1590
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:41,880
domestic political agenda of civil rights, of letting in global immigration,

1591
01:32:42,199 --> 01:32:49,199
of anti quote unquote imperialism, or global communism. That is

1592
01:32:49,399 --> 01:32:51,760
functionally what occurred in the Vietnam War. And that's why

1593
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:56,119
you can't ever really engage with the Vietnam War honestly,

1594
01:32:57,399 --> 01:33:02,840
because you're not talking about you're not talking about the

1595
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:06,760
war itself. The war was unbelievably lopsided, and we were

1596
01:33:07,359 --> 01:33:09,279
we were the good guys in Vietnam. We were the

1597
01:33:09,319 --> 01:33:12,319
good guys by a very large margin. You read about

1598
01:33:12,319 --> 01:33:14,319
what the Viet Cong, did you realize, Oh, yes, no,

1599
01:33:14,399 --> 01:33:19,159
we were the good guys. And you know, you can

1600
01:33:19,199 --> 01:33:21,399
throw out of my lie if you want to, but

1601
01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:26,640
I digress. Functionally, this is and you know, you know,

1602
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,720
Malcolm X vocalized it when he said that, oh, you know,

1603
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:34,359
the white man lost in Vietnam. He lost to a

1604
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,840
bunch of rice herders with sticks, you know. And that

1605
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:41,439
was the that was the narrative. Functionally, that was the

1606
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:44,760
narrative that the media was trying to manufacture. It's like,

1607
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,920
you know, it's like it's like when you convince you

1608
01:33:48,199 --> 01:33:51,079
place ebo, a healthy person into thinking that they're sick,

1609
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,520
and then it kind of follows along. That's what occurred

1610
01:33:55,119 --> 01:33:59,119
in the nineteen sixties when the media first became self

1611
01:33:59,239 --> 01:34:02,760
conscious of what it could do as the purveyors of

1612
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:08,720
information and Vietnam really was a societal psyop, and it

1613
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:10,960
was a we are going to lose this war, and

1614
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,640
we're going to sacrifice as many American soldiers as we

1615
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:20,159
can in order to further this domestic policy. And I

1616
01:34:20,239 --> 01:34:23,840
believe the same thing occur at least the twenty twenty was.

1617
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,760
And they've they've pulled this a variety of times, you know,

1618
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,720
between Vietnam and now, and I think twenty twenty and

1619
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:36,680
COVID was really it was the last time that they

1620
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:40,800
could pull something like this because the Internet and now

1621
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,880
everyone is their own media producer. Now everyone is a

1622
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:47,319
news station, Now everyone's a journalist, and everyone is constantly

1623
01:34:47,359 --> 01:34:50,840
seeing stuff all the time. Now they you know, they

1624
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:55,840
have too much competition. They there's no monopoly of information anymore.

1625
01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:04,119
And but the thing is you can still draw the comparison,

1626
01:35:04,119 --> 01:35:09,000
you can draw the through line. And I don't know

1627
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,479
when they first became self conscious of the power that

1628
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,479
they had. It more or less shattered the country and

1629
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:18,119
reshaped it. And that's what's brought us here today. We

1630
01:35:18,159 --> 01:35:20,600
can sit here and talk about the elites and you know,

1631
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,680
who has all the money and all of that, but ultimately,

1632
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,239
these people, the elites and who has the money, and

1633
01:35:25,279 --> 01:35:29,319
all of that believe in narratives, and the narratives that

1634
01:35:29,319 --> 01:35:33,279
they believe in are put out by increasingly desperate and

1635
01:35:33,359 --> 01:35:39,399
cornered traditional left wing media sources, and they will go away.

1636
01:35:39,399 --> 01:35:42,560
But the thing is is that vacuums tend to exist

1637
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:46,000
for a little bit without anything to fill them. So

1638
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,359
I know that was a long ramble, but that's kind

1639
01:35:49,399 --> 01:35:54,159
of what I've been on recently, and I think it

1640
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:59,880
very well compares to what happened in twenty twenty.

1641
01:36:01,319 --> 01:36:05,239
Speaker 2: I think, my my if I were to choose Vietnam movies,

1642
01:36:05,279 --> 01:36:12,720
it would be Platoon Battle Movies, Platoon, Full Metal, Jack

1643
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:16,880
at Hamburger Hill, and then at Home movies would be

1644
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,800
to just really get the propaganda of everything is Born

1645
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:24,520
on the Fourth of July and Gardens of Stone. Those

1646
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,520
are all really good movies.

1647
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:30,159
Speaker 1: Real So are you are you saying those is like

1648
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,279
correct depictions or depictions of the propaganda.

1649
01:36:34,399 --> 01:36:38,079
Speaker 2: The ones at Home would be, uh, well, Born on

1650
01:36:38,119 --> 01:36:41,880
the fourth of July is obviously the propaganda. Gardens of Stone,

1651
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,399
I think is there's a lot of propaganda in it,

1652
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,720
but it's a lot more realistic of the art of

1653
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:48,520
the arguments.

1654
01:36:49,079 --> 01:36:53,520
Speaker 1: Gardens of Stone is one of my favorite movies of

1655
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:59,239
all time, and it is the most I call it

1656
01:36:59,239 --> 01:37:04,600
Apocalypse Now is good Good twin. It was also directed

1657
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:07,079
by Coppola, and I canonically, in my mind, they think

1658
01:37:07,079 --> 01:37:11,119
they take place in the same universe, but it's it's

1659
01:37:11,199 --> 01:37:13,840
the exact opposite of Apocalypse Now in every single way.

1660
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,560
But Apocalypse Now kind of fits this narrative, right, But

1661
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,119
Gardens of Stone is one of the only, like, there's

1662
01:37:19,159 --> 01:37:22,279
only like a handful of movies that you can pick

1663
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:24,880
that actually depict sort of the real and I think

1664
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,319
Gardens of Stone is the most realistic depiction of America

1665
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:34,239
at the time, because in Gardens of Stone, it's normal.

1666
01:37:34,399 --> 01:37:37,359
Life is normal. Everyone is acting like a normal person

1667
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:40,960
in day to day life. And you I see in that,

1668
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:44,560
I see the nineteen sixties. I see it's like a

1669
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,319
mix of today modern day life. It's so especially for

1670
01:37:47,359 --> 01:37:50,000
someone who's served, Gardens of Stone is one of the

1671
01:37:50,039 --> 01:37:54,720
most specific depictions of the army you'll ever see. But

1672
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,840
but you know, for someone to serve, it's so familiar

1673
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:00,520
to you, you know, but it's also so foreign. This

1674
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,560
is the army that you hear stories about. But it's

1675
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:05,439
also the army that you've lived and experienced on an

1676
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,000
everyday basis. I don't mean to nerd out about that.

1677
01:38:08,039 --> 01:38:09,840
And I know we've got one more topic to cover

1678
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:11,960
in super chats and all that, and we're already almost

1679
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:15,760
at two hours. But but but like in terms of

1680
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:19,239
like an actual not propaganda like actually kind of depicts

1681
01:38:19,319 --> 01:38:21,720
honest things happening, Gardens of Stone is a good one

1682
01:38:23,119 --> 01:38:25,520
because it actually focuses it, like the protest stuff is

1683
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:29,359
as much in the background as the war is. The

1684
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:33,920
Green Berets starring John Wayne We Were Soldiers is actually

1685
01:38:34,119 --> 01:38:35,159
somewhat honest.

1686
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, it's a hard hitting movie. It's

1687
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,880
a movie that you're going to react to em you know,

1688
01:38:45,039 --> 01:38:47,079
emotionally too as well.

1689
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 1: Yes, but it's it. It is honest, right at least

1690
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:59,239
in some respects. But you know, if you want to like.

1691
01:38:59,319 --> 01:39:03,520
But the thing is that the narrative, the propaganda is Platoon,

1692
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,520
it is Hamburger Hill, It's The Deer Hunter, It's Rambo,

1693
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:11,640
First Blood, It's Apocalypse Now, even it's it's it's.

1694
01:39:13,159 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 2: All of these I always put I always put Apocalypse

1695
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,680
Now as its own, Like there's no other movie like that,

1696
01:39:20,079 --> 01:39:25,479
especially the Redux version. There's like there's that stands on it.

1697
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:28,199
I know it's a Vietnam movie, but it's so much

1698
01:39:28,239 --> 01:39:29,960
more than a Vietnam movie too.

1699
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 1: So sure, sure, and and and and it's it's an

1700
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,760
adaptation of Conrad, but ultimately that the theme in the

1701
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,680
message of the movie is that, you know, war is

1702
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,920
an insane drug trip that makes no sense, and even

1703
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:45,920
that in and of itself kind of reinforces the narrative

1704
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:47,960
in its own way. I love Apocalypse now just so

1705
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,960
you know, but you know, anyway.

1706
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 6: We we we we've gotten well off of Floyd.

1707
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,079
Speaker 2: Let's let's move on.

1708
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but this is this is something that I

1709
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:01,119
encourage the readership to look into because the really was

1710
01:40:01,159 --> 01:40:03,680
like the first prototype, the first use of the stuff

1711
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:05,520
that they've used even all the way through twenty twenty.

1712
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,640
And it's it's breaking down, but I don't think anything

1713
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:12,840
will come to fill it anyway. Bringing us to our

1714
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:16,239
final topic of the day, speaking of breaking down, the

1715
01:40:16,279 --> 01:40:20,520
Democratic Party is having a hard time dealing with the

1716
01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:23,319
fact that it was dealt its biggest electoral loss in

1717
01:40:23,359 --> 01:40:29,560
a very long time. So the Arian champion, Mayor Pete,

1718
01:40:30,359 --> 01:40:34,479
is trying to has a new strategy to appeal to

1719
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:36,760
the to the to the young white men that they

1720
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:37,319
have lost.

1721
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:41,399
Speaker 7: Of course we should be talking about how, yeah, if

1722
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,319
you know, Speaker Johnson got his way, it wouldn't be possible,

1723
01:40:45,399 --> 01:40:46,960
not just for gay people to get married, but for

1724
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,359
straight people to get divorced, let alone like birth control

1725
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,319
or how he would want to regulate porn or whatever.

1726
01:40:52,560 --> 01:41:01,119
Speaker 2: People most have a problem based but based everything is

1727
01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:03,960
said so far as I mean, it's like, okay, let's

1728
01:41:04,079 --> 01:41:07,039
let's let's fucking go exactly.

1729
01:41:08,399 --> 01:41:13,359
Speaker 3: I mean, they almost sound kind of like the last

1730
01:41:13,399 --> 01:41:17,520
embers of early two thousands new atheism, and they think, oh,

1731
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,159
if we just make that look cool again, they'll come back.

1732
01:41:21,079 --> 01:41:26,640
But that's a dead and dying worldview that failed to

1733
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:31,880
deal with the realities of life. And people don't want

1734
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:33,960
to go back to that. I don't want to go

1735
01:41:34,039 --> 01:41:39,239
back to their like white boy libertarianism with porn and everything.

1736
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:45,279
It destroyed them. And those who have escaped looked back

1737
01:41:45,319 --> 01:41:48,199
at don't look back at that because they view it

1738
01:41:48,239 --> 01:41:51,079
like sodom and if they look back, they'll fall assault

1739
01:41:51,159 --> 01:41:55,640
or something. The movements of young white boys now is

1740
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:58,119
really just like you're either a Catholic traat or a

1741
01:41:58,159 --> 01:42:01,359
vitalist that's really old there is, and people that are

1742
01:42:01,399 --> 01:42:03,720
tapping into that will win, and people that wanted to

1743
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:05,520
disgorge that will not win.

1744
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it pick your flavor of extreme right wing politics

1745
01:42:12,119 --> 01:42:16,000
is what young men are increasingly turning into.

1746
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:23,399
Speaker 2: You know, to the horror of people like James Lindsey

1747
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:27,720
and you know, the classical liberal crowd, the left left

1748
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:31,760
me crowd where they you know, young men are starting

1749
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:35,600
to realize that democracy doesn't work. You know, as Jeff

1750
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:38,680
Dice said, democracy just tells you that you're not allowed

1751
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:42,960
to choose you. You're not you're not allowed to be

1752
01:42:43,039 --> 01:42:45,840
on your own side. You have to be on somebody

1753
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:49,000
else's side. And they're beginning and people are starting to

1754
01:42:49,039 --> 01:42:51,600
realize that they have to reject that or they die.

1755
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:57,319
Speaker 1: Do you remember in the last months of the Biden administration,

1756
01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:00,840
this meme was going around called the Social Contract, and

1757
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:07,000
there were different national versions for different language groups. You know,

1758
01:43:07,039 --> 01:43:09,319
there's like a Portuguese version, in a French version, in

1759
01:43:09,399 --> 01:43:14,840
a Spanish version like like Spain Spanish, or you know,

1760
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,640
an Italian version and whatever, and it all had basically

1761
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:22,159
this thirty year old nor the American version of course too.

1762
01:43:22,199 --> 01:43:25,119
And it, you know, was you had this thirty year

1763
01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:28,159
old white guy who's like this white collar super stressed

1764
01:43:28,199 --> 01:43:30,960
and you see all of the places that it that

1765
01:43:31,079 --> 01:43:34,960
his labor was pouring into is it's like uh, and

1766
01:43:35,039 --> 01:43:36,399
you know, the white guy was named and it's like

1767
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:40,640
via this entity, it's going to Juan in Mexico, or

1768
01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:44,159
via this entity, this other entity, it's going to Simon

1769
01:43:44,199 --> 01:43:49,399
and Linda sixty five and seventy right, who are going

1770
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:52,000
on a cruise in the Caribbean, or it's going to

1771
01:43:52,560 --> 01:44:00,479
you know, Lashonda and via via snap right. And I

1772
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:02,760
think more and more and more young white guys, particularly

1773
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,000
young middle class white guys, realize that they are the

1774
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:10,039
only net contributors in the system. Just about everyone else

1775
01:44:10,159 --> 01:44:14,039
is living a far greater lifestyle, a far better lifestyle

1776
01:44:14,239 --> 01:44:19,159
where they have community, where they have you know, they

1777
01:44:19,159 --> 01:44:22,239
don't worry about the same things, and they are paying

1778
01:44:22,279 --> 01:44:24,359
for all of it and they get nothing.

1779
01:44:24,039 --> 01:44:24,399
Speaker 2: Out of it.

1780
01:44:24,399 --> 01:44:27,399
Speaker 1: They're just they're kind of expected and in other ways

1781
01:44:27,399 --> 01:44:32,640
they're kind of forced to do it. And you know,

1782
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:36,760
and the thing is with it, you know, like that

1783
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:40,119
meme is spreading around that so many young white guys,

1784
01:44:40,279 --> 01:44:48,479
young middle class white guys. They they've all they've felt

1785
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:50,399
something's wrong for a very long time. It's just they felt,

1786
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:54,319
you know, as though the whole state apparatus exists to

1787
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:58,439
ensure that they can't do anything about it. You know,

1788
01:44:59,039 --> 01:45:02,720
it exists too sure that you know, they can't. They

1789
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:06,920
can't find a way to have their labor contribute to

1790
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,960
something other than this stuff. And even and even the

1791
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,880
stuff that was kind of given to them to plicate them,

1792
01:45:13,239 --> 01:45:14,600
you know, that was very bad for them. But you know,

1793
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:19,600
video games, porn, drugs, these other things, you know, even that,

1794
01:45:20,359 --> 01:45:24,079
because that's a horrible, empty, hollow existence. But but it's

1795
01:45:24,239 --> 01:45:27,319
it's unsustainable. But even that wasn't left alone. Gamer Gates

1796
01:45:27,319 --> 01:45:29,359
what's brought us all here. At least that's the popular

1797
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:32,000
narrative is that gamergate is what brought us all here.

1798
01:45:34,319 --> 01:45:40,600
And I said it earlier, But the signaling from you know,

1799
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:43,680
people like Pete whose last name is literally but gay.

1800
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:54,159
I his last name is literally butt gay. You know,

1801
01:45:57,079 --> 01:45:59,279
Gavin Newsom is doing the same thing. Is it's like

1802
01:45:59,319 --> 01:46:01,359
the only thing that I think some elements of the

1803
01:46:01,399 --> 01:46:04,960
Democratic Party, the quote unquote moderates, you know, or the

1804
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:10,199
DNC types who are outside of the activist class. I

1805
01:46:10,239 --> 01:46:13,039
think what they're trying to do, or they're trying to signal,

1806
01:46:13,159 --> 01:46:16,000
is there like the centrist the adults are back in

1807
01:46:16,039 --> 01:46:18,680
the room, the Party of Power is coming back, and

1808
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:20,920
you know, Newsom is like the second built, the second

1809
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,560
coming of Bill Clinton. You know, it's like, oh, we're

1810
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:26,680
going to finally put a normal guy who you know, Hey,

1811
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:28,560
we're going to let you have your porn back in

1812
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:31,520
your video games. And it's it's very out of touch.

1813
01:46:32,119 --> 01:46:35,159
It's very out of touch. It's it's you know, happy

1814
01:46:35,199 --> 01:46:42,800
New Year twenty twelve. It's it's not they're not in

1815
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:44,800
the game functionally. If this is if this is what

1816
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:47,000
they're signaling, if this is what they're coming up with,

1817
01:46:47,359 --> 01:46:49,920
and they're trying to hope to to kind of they're

1818
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:54,000
signaling to the Joe Rogan, the left left meet crowd.

1819
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:56,159
I don't know how much of value this is, but

1820
01:46:56,199 --> 01:47:00,800
apparently Joe Rogan's been attending church, you know, like that's

1821
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:04,760
that's a signal like the left left knee crowd is realized,

1822
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:09,880
oh well, you know, there is no left left and

1823
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,079
so looks like we've got to start changing to fit

1824
01:47:12,199 --> 01:47:15,159
the world because Rogan's Rogan savvy. He wouldn't have the

1825
01:47:15,199 --> 01:47:17,199
show he has if he wasn't. I think he understands

1826
01:47:17,199 --> 01:47:19,760
where the wind is growing, the wind is blowing, and

1827
01:47:20,159 --> 01:47:23,600
where his audience is going. So I'm not saying it's

1828
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,960
entirely cynical, but any go ahead.

1829
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,239
Speaker 3: In that article I sent you that I wrote recently,

1830
01:47:31,279 --> 01:47:37,720
I call this like they're entropic people when political capital,

1831
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:43,600
when the ability to create political capital collapses and you're

1832
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:47,520
left in this entropic state where you can't really create energy,

1833
01:47:48,119 --> 01:47:50,920
you try to just find any dopamine hit you can find,

1834
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,880
and it's really what the what what Pete budd Gay

1835
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:59,359
he is offering are our intrope trope entropic little bubbles

1836
01:47:59,399 --> 01:48:02,279
of energy feel like you're doing something when you're just

1837
01:48:02,359 --> 01:48:06,760
getting older and dying. You're not actually doing anything. You're

1838
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,920
either a ghost ancer for dead people or just this

1839
01:48:12,279 --> 01:48:15,560
really like like a crab in a bucket. Crabs in

1840
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:18,119
a bucket pulling people back down at an entropy. And

1841
01:48:19,279 --> 01:48:22,800
if you can manage to convince people that that's what

1842
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:25,920
it is, if you can show away the bullshit that

1843
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:29,600
they wrap it in and just show them wide eyes

1844
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:32,479
wide open that it's just entropy. They'll never vote for

1845
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,640
it again. The key is to make that clear, because

1846
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,720
people will fall for it. They're that desperate. A large

1847
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,520
amount of this country is that desperate that if Trump fails,

1848
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:43,760
they will want to go with the Democrats, and that

1849
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,920
will give them the political capital to destroy everyone like us.

1850
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:52,399
They have to be exposed for the entropic people they are.

1851
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 1: Let me and I, you know, I think this is

1852
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,600
going to be my final thoughts before or we go

1853
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:03,159
into the super chats and and bring this ship home.

1854
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:11,439
If anyone from the Trump administration or anyone who is

1855
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,359
in the Trump administration or has a line to the

1856
01:49:14,359 --> 01:49:17,399
Trump administration, you know, Stephen Miller, if your listen, I

1857
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:20,239
doubt he is. He's so busy he probably doesn't have time.

1858
01:49:20,319 --> 01:49:24,359
But if someone someone, anyone in our audience, Aaron Baron,

1859
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:32,159
I don't, I don't, I don't care who. You have

1860
01:49:32,319 --> 01:49:40,159
to understand mhm, this is a meme at this point,

1861
01:49:40,239 --> 01:49:42,119
I don't know a better way to articulate it. You

1862
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:44,399
don't know what time it is, or at least you're

1863
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:47,600
not acting like you do. You're not acting like you do,

1864
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:49,920
you are not moving fast enough, you are not moving

1865
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,520
swift enough. You need to stop thinking about the midterms.

1866
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:56,079
You need to stop thinking about, you know, getting a successor,

1867
01:49:56,079 --> 01:49:58,760
and in twenty twenty eight is none. You can't do

1868
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:05,119
that because if you fail, if you fail, right, if

1869
01:50:05,159 --> 01:50:09,199
you fail, and no one else, no one else is

1870
01:50:09,199 --> 01:50:12,159
coming after you. You know, maybe within your own apparatus,

1871
01:50:12,199 --> 01:50:15,600
you might be able to establish some kind of Trumpian

1872
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:18,920
resistance movement within some gops in some states, but it'll

1873
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:22,600
be it'll be disjointed, because this is the problem with

1874
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,359
cults of personality. Once the big man, once the leader

1875
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:29,039
is gone, it shatters right. And so this is the thing.

1876
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:33,399
You all, whoever is listening, or whoever can bring this

1877
01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:35,920
to the administration, they need to know. This is that.

1878
01:50:36,279 --> 01:50:38,399
And I give them the benefit of the doubt. But

1879
01:50:39,359 --> 01:50:44,359
if you do not permanently destroy the Democratic Party and

1880
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:49,760
the left using state power, frankly, both within and without

1881
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:54,800
your government, if you do not do that, they are

1882
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:57,560
going to come back in twenty twenty eight or twenty

1883
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,640
thirty two or twenty thirty six. They're patient, their patient.

1884
01:51:01,359 --> 01:51:03,960
You know, they've got money, they could figure it out.

1885
01:51:04,239 --> 01:51:07,600
They'll they'll shore up, they'll they'll they'll try to rebuild

1886
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:11,680
a new political narrative. When they come back, we are

1887
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:15,960
all going to be killed. We are all going to

1888
01:51:16,079 --> 01:51:19,800
be killed. The future of the Democratic Party is not

1889
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:22,960
Gavin Newsom or Pete or whomever else. It is the

1890
01:51:23,079 --> 01:51:27,279
young activist class that is going to be handed the

1891
01:51:27,319 --> 01:51:29,520
keys to the kingdom because they're the only one there

1892
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:32,920
to get it, and they are going to use it

1893
01:51:33,119 --> 01:51:38,159
to enact their ideological goals on the population that has

1894
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:43,039
resisted them, on the population of this country. Middle Americans

1895
01:51:43,039 --> 01:51:45,680
fly over, whatever you want to call them, heritage, whatever,

1896
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:52,359
white people is what they are going to affect it

1897
01:51:52,399 --> 01:51:58,039
on your base, your base who put you in the

1898
01:51:58,079 --> 01:52:00,920
White House that you built a cod on the backs

1899
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:05,600
of those white evangelicals who cling to their guns and

1900
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:10,279
their religion, put you in your administration in the White House.

1901
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:15,760
And if you go away, there's no one protecting those

1902
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:20,199
people anymore. The state will be weaponized in a blatant

1903
01:52:20,319 --> 01:52:25,520
and militant and violent fashion, and these people will be dispossessed.

1904
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:28,600
They will be killed, they will be exiled from the country.

1905
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:33,880
They will scatter, and this country will be gone. The

1906
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,079
curtain of darkness will descend on the land, and it

1907
01:52:36,199 --> 01:52:39,880
will be unrecognizable, and it will I don't it will

1908
01:52:40,039 --> 01:52:42,880
never be the America that you love ever again. So

1909
01:52:43,279 --> 01:52:46,600
if you I don't know the models you're using, and

1910
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:49,680
I don't know the data you're using, and I don't

1911
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:52,199
know if maybe you've calculated that the military has enough

1912
01:52:52,239 --> 01:52:55,039
high level officers that they won't go with you, that

1913
01:52:55,079 --> 01:52:57,359
there will there is a very high likelihood of a

1914
01:52:57,359 --> 01:52:59,840
military coup on behalf of the Democratic Party, and that's

1915
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:03,640
a threat. I understand that given the loyalties of certain

1916
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:06,159
senior officials in the Pentagon. I understand that's a threat.

1917
01:53:09,119 --> 01:53:12,159
But you can beat them to the punch, And in

1918
01:53:12,199 --> 01:53:15,520
all honesty, it wouldn't surprise me if they're organizing one

1919
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:21,159
right now. You know, it's it's it's it's it's it's

1920
01:53:21,199 --> 01:53:24,680
like Operation Blue in nineteen forty one. You know, if

1921
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:26,960
you're not going to strike first, they will.

1922
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 3: You know, you bring up a good point. Elon Musk

1923
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:37,600
did not ask to come back when his term expired

1924
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:42,199
this week, and he has powerful friends. And if they

1925
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:46,000
do not feel confident that this administration can do more,

1926
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,760
then bitch on Twitter. They go to find some other

1927
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:51,680
group to prop up with their money, and it will

1928
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:56,840
be you and your midterms coming up, and again I

1929
01:53:57,399 --> 01:54:00,920
just have to say, you know, Elon must not our friend.

1930
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:04,720
I don't like the things he pays for. But they're

1931
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:07,800
going to start carving into your corpse of a party

1932
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:10,760
if you don't man up. Bitching on Twitter that the

1933
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:16,000
judges stopped you is not sufficient and powerful, wealthy elite

1934
01:54:16,319 --> 01:54:18,640
not in the Democrat Party or just as eager to

1935
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:22,479
claw into the corpse of the GOP as the Democrats are.

1936
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:26,199
And you will be left penniless and powerless at these

1937
01:54:26,279 --> 01:54:28,119
two ravens eating you alive.

1938
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:35,239
Speaker 1: And then what's going to happen to us, your loyal

1939
01:54:35,359 --> 01:54:43,800
army of posters and signal boosters. And you know, I'm

1940
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:45,680
going to probably speak for a little bit longer here.

1941
01:54:47,159 --> 01:54:49,600
When I was at the Old Glory Club conference, I'm

1942
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:50,960
not going to name any names, but I'm going to

1943
01:54:51,039 --> 01:54:53,520
tell you the kind of people that were there, The

1944
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:55,800
kind of people at this Old Glory Club conference are

1945
01:54:56,520 --> 01:55:01,319
the people who make this country run right. Layers, doctors,

1946
01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:06,039
junior officers in the military on off duty, of course,

1947
01:55:06,079 --> 01:55:10,800
but you know, cops, people who work in government, political

1948
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:14,239
staffers on the state level, on the federal level, you know,

1949
01:55:14,359 --> 01:55:21,319
local government, people who are involved there, entrepreneurs, corporate executive,

1950
01:55:21,359 --> 01:55:33,039
sales guys, independently wealthy, basically the middle of the society, right,

1951
01:55:33,119 --> 01:55:36,600
the most dynamic aspect of the society, the people who

1952
01:55:37,399 --> 01:55:40,279
keep this country running on a day to day basis.

1953
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:43,920
That is the kind of people who were there. It

1954
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,000
is the best that the country has to offer. It

1955
01:55:46,039 --> 01:55:49,600
is the most civic minded, the most community minded. And

1956
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:54,520
two thirds of them were affiliated with a chapter right

1957
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:58,079
and the one third that wasn't is a great Many

1958
01:55:58,119 --> 01:56:01,319
of them are starting, are looking to get a filmed right,

1959
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:06,279
What's going to happen to them? What's going to happen

1960
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:11,479
to them? If this doesn't work, if the Left gets

1961
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:19,319
back in, you know, what's going to happen to What's

1962
01:56:19,359 --> 01:56:22,239
going to happen to them? They're going to be like

1963
01:56:22,279 --> 01:56:28,000
the Kulaks in Ukraine, you know, or the Rhodesians or

1964
01:56:29,199 --> 01:56:31,600
the Boors in South Africa? Like like where but where

1965
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:34,439
where is there? Where is there for them to go?

1966
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:39,399
Where am I going to go? Am I going to

1967
01:56:39,439 --> 01:56:42,920
go to Argentina? Am i am I going to go

1968
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:46,560
to Ireland? Am I going to go to Canada? Am

1969
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:52,279
I going to go to Australia? Or New Zealand. Where

1970
01:56:52,359 --> 01:56:55,199
is there for me to go? Am I going to

1971
01:56:55,319 --> 01:56:59,840
die here in a country that isn't mine anymore that's

1972
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:01,840
been taken from me? Is that what's going to have

1973
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:04,119
to happen? Am I'm going to have to bury my son.

1974
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:06,039
Speaker 4: Here?

1975
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:13,159
Speaker 1: What you have to understand this is still directed to

1976
01:57:13,199 --> 01:57:16,159
anyone in the administration who was even tangentially connected, who

1977
01:57:16,199 --> 01:57:22,800
may be listening. You are our leaders, you are our chief,

1978
01:57:23,399 --> 01:57:29,920
and we stand ready to hear your call. We will

1979
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:34,760
do what needs to be done. You found that out,

1980
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:38,960
Let's just say, on a winner's on a winter's morning

1981
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:46,279
a few years ago. You found that out. If you're

1982
01:57:46,319 --> 01:57:49,199
waiting for advanced term, you can't. You can't wait for

1983
01:57:49,199 --> 01:57:49,880
advanced term.

1984
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:50,439
Speaker 4: You can't.

1985
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:55,239
Speaker 1: You need to act now. We do not have time

1986
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:59,199
to wait for advanced term. I'm i oscillate between we

1987
01:57:59,239 --> 01:58:03,479
have ten years and we have ten months. I the top.

1988
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:06,720
The clock is ticking. The clock is ticking. I understand

1989
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:08,720
it's only been five months, but the clock is ticking.

1990
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:11,319
If you can't make these decisions and make good on them,

1991
01:58:11,319 --> 01:58:13,119
and you're just going to keep complaining on Twitter and

1992
01:58:13,159 --> 01:58:16,600
you're you're not going to just confront a rubicon moment

1993
01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:22,560
when it comes before you, then this country is gone.

1994
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:31,359
So I'm going to uh cease speaking now, I.

1995
01:58:31,359 --> 01:58:34,359
Speaker 2: Sign off, And everything you just said, yep.

1996
01:58:34,279 --> 01:58:37,680
Speaker 3: It's it's the cruel reality of the cards you've been

1997
01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:40,479
played in the hour in which you decided to start playing.

1998
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:43,359
It's not two thousand and four anymore. It's it's twenty

1999
01:58:43,399 --> 01:58:47,600
twenty five, and this country is falling apart, and it

2000
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:50,720
is not going to stop falling apart if all you

2001
01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:51,920
can do is complain about it.

2002
01:58:55,199 --> 01:58:58,399
Speaker 1: I do not want to die here at the age

2003
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:02,239
of you know, you know, let's say my late twenties.

2004
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:04,760
I don't want to have to bury my son here

2005
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:06,359
or my family here. I don't want to have to

2006
01:59:06,479 --> 01:59:09,119
I don't want to have to do that. You know,

2007
01:59:10,039 --> 01:59:12,600
if this were a normal world, I wouldn't even be here.

2008
01:59:14,039 --> 01:59:15,880
If this were a normal world, I'd be looking at

2009
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:19,960
Captain right now, and I'd be happily serving, you know,

2010
01:59:20,159 --> 01:59:26,479
in Korea somewhere right If this were a normal world,

2011
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:29,279
that's what I would be doing. You know, you would

2012
01:59:29,279 --> 01:59:31,880
have you know, I would be you know, I wouldn't

2013
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:33,119
even question things.

2014
01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 2: You know.

2015
01:59:34,399 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 1: It's not that I wouldn't question things I but here I am,

2016
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:41,359
and here the rest of us are all of you,

2017
01:59:41,439 --> 01:59:43,600
all four hundred and fifty of you who are still watching,

2018
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,640
and you know, the the other two gentlemen who are

2019
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:51,880
with me this evening. We're all here because things aren't normal,

2020
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:58,000
and you're the only one right now, President Trump, you

2021
01:59:58,039 --> 02:00:00,960
are the only one right now who can fix things.

2022
02:00:02,239 --> 02:00:04,680
And if you can't do it, we're not going to

2023
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:10,039
get a second chance. So don't wait to put vance in,

2024
02:00:10,159 --> 02:00:14,720
don't wait to put whomever in, don't The country is

2025
02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:20,199
going to die if you don't do something, So please

2026
02:00:20,279 --> 02:00:21,239
do something.

2027
02:00:25,119 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 4: All right?

2028
02:00:26,479 --> 02:00:28,039
Speaker 1: Anything else before we go to super chats?

2029
02:00:30,119 --> 02:00:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's anything else to say.

2030
02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 1: The super chaps will make the mood a bit more

2031
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:43,399
upbeat before we end. All right, So starting back up

2032
02:00:43,399 --> 02:00:47,680
again where we left off, one hundred counts for ten

2033
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:50,159
US dollars, Thank you, sir, he says. To Paul's point

2034
02:00:50,159 --> 02:00:52,760
about a political void post democrats, I believe it is

2035
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:56,119
incumbent on us to see that as opportunity, one that

2036
02:00:56,239 --> 02:00:58,840
organizations like the OGC and their progeny should be preparing

2037
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:01,560
to take advantage of. Well, the OGC is an explicitly

2038
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:06,079
a political organization. However, we know very much an endorse

2039
02:01:06,159 --> 02:01:08,600
and support the civic engagement of all of our members

2040
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:15,640
in chapters as individual citizens. So Son of Haster for

2041
02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:18,680
five dollars, he says, powerful panel tonight, Thank you, sir,

2042
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:22,159
he says. My friends have started recognizing my username from

2043
02:01:22,159 --> 02:01:25,720
super chats even outside my chapter. Jay, you should just

2044
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:28,279
join already. Well, Jay, if you are listening and you

2045
02:01:28,319 --> 02:01:32,359
know mister Son of Haster, you should join. And if

2046
02:01:32,359 --> 02:01:35,720
you don't, you're a chicken. So what you're going to

2047
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:40,960
do with that anyway, mister Mellon for five US dollars,

2048
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:43,079
Thank you, sir, he says. In other news, got a

2049
02:01:43,159 --> 02:01:45,319
new fruit tree in the ground yesterday, Thank you sir.

2050
02:01:45,399 --> 02:01:50,199
The Shire Building will or congratulations sir, Apologies I picked

2051
02:01:50,199 --> 02:01:54,479
the wrong default response. The Shire Building will continue in

2052
02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:56,520
between trips to make friends in the city. We need

2053
02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:58,640
both absolutely. As a matter of fact, that was one

2054
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:01,039
of the speeches I think mister Allisimo had at the

2055
02:02:01,199 --> 02:02:03,399
event where he said that the cities are not lost

2056
02:02:03,439 --> 02:02:06,039
to us and efforts should be made to start reclaiming them,

2057
02:02:06,039 --> 02:02:14,000
and that certainly did create a buzz all right, seasider

2058
02:02:14,039 --> 02:02:16,399
for ten us dollars, He sends a salute, thank you, sir.

2059
02:02:17,479 --> 02:02:20,720
Jay Forte For ten dollars, he says, Paul, last time

2060
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:22,840
I was on skyline drive hiking with my wife, we

2061
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:26,560
ran into Indians everywhere playing music on speakerphones in the woods. Yeah,

2062
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:29,520
it's they ruined just about everywhere they go.

2063
02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:34,039
Speaker 3: That's true.

2064
02:02:35,079 --> 02:02:39,560
Speaker 1: It's about that loud around them too. Don Browning sends

2065
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:43,199
a twenty US dollars with a supersticker of a Samurai

2066
02:02:43,319 --> 02:02:46,359
cat waving a flag with number one written on it.

2067
02:02:46,399 --> 02:02:48,479
I like to think Don Browning puts a great deal

2068
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:51,359
of a great deal of thought into the stickers that

2069
02:02:51,399 --> 02:02:55,279
she sends us. So thank you very much. You unfortunately

2070
02:02:55,279 --> 02:02:57,239
cannot join the Old Glory Club, but we're grateful for

2071
02:02:57,279 --> 02:03:02,680
your support. Thomas Wayne Riley, president of the newly constituted

2072
02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:05,800
New Mexico Chapter, if I remember correctly, sends this in

2073
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:09,000
for fifteen US dollars. Thank you, sir. He says. Entrance

2074
02:03:09,079 --> 02:03:12,760
to National parks for non Americans should be Disney World

2075
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:16,079
prices astronomical free for heritage Americans.

2076
02:03:16,079 --> 02:03:16,600
Speaker 2: So true.

2077
02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:18,880
Speaker 1: I did a whole episode on fixing the National Parks

2078
02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:22,319
on my show and got a hilarious review. Quote twr

2079
02:03:22,399 --> 02:03:24,600
is the reason that I would rather meet a bear

2080
02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:31,359
than a man in the in that country camping. So true,

2081
02:03:32,079 --> 02:03:37,359
so true, Well, thank you, sir. Next up hamm Rain

2082
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:40,000
for nine dollars and ninety nine cents. He says, quote

2083
02:03:40,039 --> 02:03:45,520
how to count illegals? They say, census wrong? What means unquote? Yeah,

2084
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:48,800
I agree. I mean I think, actually I've heard some

2085
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:50,520
things I don't know if you gentlemen have heard, but

2086
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:54,359
that the census is purposefully collected in such a way

2087
02:03:54,399 --> 02:04:00,880
as to mislead the actual reality of who's here, and

2088
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:03,159
that the situation is actually much worse than we thought.

2089
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:06,600
And actually that reminds me. This is a This is

2090
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:09,119
a I know we're going over here, but I wanted

2091
02:04:09,119 --> 02:04:11,520
to put this in real quick. I was looking at

2092
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:14,439
a data point for an unrelated personal study I was

2093
02:04:14,479 --> 02:04:18,039
doing about the ratio of men and women at a

2094
02:04:18,079 --> 02:04:23,439
marriageable age, like specifically like early late teens, early twenties,

2095
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:28,279
mid twenties, which is marriageable age, and normally at that age,

2096
02:04:29,439 --> 02:04:32,720
the ratio of the United States or of almost every

2097
02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:36,319
society skews in favor of women because I think more

2098
02:04:36,439 --> 02:04:40,800
men are born than women slightly, but more women survive

2099
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:44,640
to adulthood and to marriage age than men do even

2100
02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:48,439
at an early age. And I looked at the ratio

2101
02:04:48,479 --> 02:04:54,319
of you could say, military age for men, and it

2102
02:04:54,399 --> 02:04:59,920
was skewed in favor of men. And I just about

2103
02:05:00,079 --> 02:05:02,000
all out of my chair because that's like almost an

2104
02:05:02,039 --> 02:05:06,039
ironclad demographic rules. There's always more women than men at

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that age and any in any given society. And so

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many people had come into the country. That's immediately what

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was connected. So many people have come into the country

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that the ratio of men to women at marriage age

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is skewed in favor of men.

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Speaker 3: That's that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: That that should scare the crap out of you.

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Speaker 3: You know, I will say, I've seen evidence that that

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why a lot of people are leaving willingly without being caught.

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Speaker 1: I hope.

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Speaker 3: So most housing projects where I live have paused. No

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one's available to work on them. Most well, I'm most

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like people. Wealthy people I know. I've heard them. Well, no,

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I don't know them. Wealthy people I passed by in

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the wealthy parts of Manhattan. I sometimes hear complaining that

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their mechanic got deported, or their their gardener got deported,

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or their chef got deported. The rich people with chefs

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in their house. You know, the chef got deported and

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oh oh, I phone, I could find a white person

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to work as hard as that, because that they're that

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kind of thinkers. I hear that in the grapevine, in

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bars and little things in Manhattan where the rich people gather.

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Speaker 4: Ah.

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Speaker 3: I see evidence that it is picking up. Whether or

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not these numbers.

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Speaker 4: Are like.

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Speaker 3: In in Trust, the Plan Utopia delusion. Maybe they're not

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even reporting how many they're deporting. I don't know, but

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there is tangential evidence that the numbers all are going

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up in where I live, especially in the past two months.

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I'm hopeful that trend continues.

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Speaker 2: I hope so too.

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Speaker 1: And Ope. You always say that there's an army here,

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and I think there's not just one.

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Speaker 2: All right, sure, Yeah, there's an army waiting waiting to

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be led.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dynastic designs for five dollars, he says a Cascade

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Frontier of organ representing thank you, sir, thank you for

2143
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joining us. We're getting organized and doing cool things. Cascade

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Frontier at ProtonMail dot com. Yes, if you're up in

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the Pacific Northwest area, particularly Oregon, reach out to that

2146
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:28,840
email and We're more than happy to get you involved

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with that chapter up there. That's the Cascade Frontier, our

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westernmost chapter. Next up Blaow three nine three for two dollars.

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Thank you, sir, he says, Derek Chauven equals perfect n

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a sponsor. I know that's a joke.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what. I don't know what na is

2152
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is or narcotics anonymous.

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Speaker 1: Well that I guess that tells you something. Thank you, sir.

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Jonathan Hemingway for ten dollars, he says, the Summer of

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Floyd was my radicalation moment. On another note, men of

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Georgia joined the James Oglethorpe Society. James Oglethorpe is represented

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this evening. Thank you, mister Hemingway, and thank you for

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the super chat. Next up, Machiavelli sucks being white is great.

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For four dollars and ninety nine cents. He says, the

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white man needs not to take any more bed sheet.

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I suppose, Thank you, sir. I'm very you know, very grateful,

2162
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and I completely agree the white man. The white man

2163
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cannot take any more any more of this, and he

2164
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needs to he needs to do something.

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Speaker 2: But we will see.

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Speaker 1: Next up for twenty dollars. Mister la Vendez, he says, Man,

2167
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:39,039
mister Fahrenheit is on fire tonight, great stream, good speed

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Fellas or God's speed fellas. Excuse me, Thank you, sir.

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I'm very grateful. You know I'm good at talking. Another

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one for fifteen dollars from Thomas Wayne Riley. He said,

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we must win. My one month old can't afford the alternative.

2172
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Great episode. I completely agree, sir. We have to. We

2173
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have no other choice. Thank you, sir. And then, last

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but not least, finally, we have Forever Bulk for ten dollars,

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he says. Excellent monologue. Mister Paul, take my money. It

2176
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was my pleasure meeting you and the many others at

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the conference. Join join the OGC or die well. Thank you, sir.

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I don't recognize your screen name, but I'm sure I

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will remember you if you if we met again. Then

2180
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thank you for your donation. I'm very grateful. All right.

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That sums it up. So I think we've all said

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everything we need to say. Pete, you have anything to.

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Speaker 2: Shill the show? Pete substack dot com. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Excellent. Grinji, you got anything to shill?

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Speaker 3: I wrote something for substack. They've Dave seemed to like it.

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Speaker 1: He said it was decent.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you said that.

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Speaker 3: He retweeted he restacked it in substack. So my substack

2189
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is is I'm getting more active there as I depart

2190
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from the Twitter slops sphere. I'm writing two more articles,

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hopefully be done with in a week or two on

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the things I mentioned here. That's about it.

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Speaker 1: All right, excellent, all right, thank you very much. Don't

2194
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:09,239
have nothing to shill. I don't do anything anymore except

2195
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support the Old Glory Club, Join the Old Glory Club.

2196
02:10:11,439 --> 02:10:13,359
Get involved with the Old Glory Club. The Old Glory

2197
02:10:13,399 --> 02:10:16,000
Club at gmail dot com. Please contact us if you

2198
02:10:16,039 --> 02:10:17,680
want to get involved with a chapter you don't know

2199
02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:19,399
if there's one near you. You could also just go

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to the Old Gloryclub dot com and you can go

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to the chapter page. Or if you google Old Glory

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02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:27,359
Club will be the first thing that comes up. You

2203
02:10:27,359 --> 02:10:29,239
can go to the chapter's page. We have I think

2204
02:10:29,279 --> 02:10:32,439
twenty seven chapters now in almost as many states. I think,

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actually the numbers up because we approved a few more recently.

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Most recent chapters that were approved I think were the

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Maryland and New Mexico chapters, so if you're in Maryland

2208
02:10:41,640 --> 02:10:45,000
or New Mexico, try to get involved with them. Otherwise.

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I don't know if they're on the website yet, but

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we'll update it. Otherwise, get involved, get involved the Old

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02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:53,880
Glory Club, support this country, get involved with your community,

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and civically engage. That's all I got to say. So

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thank you all very much for joining us this evening.

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Thank you to mister Dave the distributors for joining us,

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Thank you mister Pete and mister L. F. Templar for

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joining us as always. And I hope you all have

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a very good evening. God bless you.