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<v Speaker 1>Is this Kenny Rogers hell yeah something? Uh, the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason I know that? Does he sing the Gambler?

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<v Speaker 2>He does?

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<v Speaker 1>He does? And also little known facts lu seal a

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<v Speaker 1>few others little known big big day fact. My pops

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<v Speaker 1>loves the Kenny Rogers Christmas album. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>why I grew up listening to the Kenny Rogers Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>album way too much because it's awesome. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas music guy. Awesome is overstating the Kenny Rogers Christmas album.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yes, Chris Com, let's ask Chris Com running

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't strike you as a Kenny Rodgers fan? What's

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<v Speaker 1>what's the deal on a Friday?

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<v Speaker 2>Hell words during opening tip?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry say again?

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<v Speaker 2>We did?

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have you pot it up? Say again?

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<v Speaker 2>I heard that there was some some fighting words during

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<v Speaker 2>opening tip, something about me being a coward. So I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that it would be uh on points to roll

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<v Speaker 2>with the theme that apparently is part of I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're not wrong. It's thirty five degrees, it's cold.

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<v Speaker 2>What else am I gonna do? But Kenny Rogers is

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<v Speaker 2>good man, Big Dave has get taste?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I use the term coward? That is oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay, Okay, well that was too much. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just say I heard of Academy though it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great song. Kind of it's kind of fitting

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<v Speaker 2>for me at this time of year. Just not really

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<v Speaker 2>willing to budge when it comes to what I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like doing or don't feel like doing. But we're almost there, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe staunchly that we're almost there.

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<v Speaker 1>I must be grumpy today because I said Dave mcmanniman

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a keebler elf too.

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<v Speaker 3>You're being mean to all our guests.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the day after Josh Grant. Are you gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be mean to Paul Pugmyer? You can't be mean and

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<v Speaker 1>to Paul Puppet That's what I'm asking. But Josh Grant

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday on the show told me that I was way

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<v Speaker 1>too nice, So you're over correcting. Yeah, c K what you?

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Grant rolls on the show yesterday and accuses me

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<v Speaker 1>of being way too nice and says I'm too nice

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<v Speaker 1>all the time to a fault.

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<v Speaker 2>On air or in life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you don't have to do that. Only on air, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>only on air.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think like I listened to the Bilberr interview

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<v Speaker 2>with Terry Gross on Fresh Air this week, and it

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<v Speaker 2>got somewhat. He was pretty demonstrative, as he's known to

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<v Speaker 2>do and known to be, and like it was engaging

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<v Speaker 2>and it was fun because for once, like people were

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<v Speaker 2>having an honest conversation. I don't think you necessarily need

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<v Speaker 2>to be the type of host that pokes the bear

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<v Speaker 2>and goes for you know this, you know the hyperbolic

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<v Speaker 2>ESPN screaming at the universe type stuff. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>you tell the line pretty well. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of you, and you should know that. Both

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<v Speaker 1>Porter and I were just sad that you didn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>honor us with your presence on a Friday. So I

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<v Speaker 1>apologize for the name, but we were mostly just sad

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<v Speaker 1>you're not here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I mean, name calling is normal in society and

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<v Speaker 2>it goes all the way up to the very highest ranks.

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<v Speaker 2>I was taught when I was a kid that you're

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<v Speaker 2>not supposed to call people names. But you're my close friend,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can call me whatever you want on or

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<v Speaker 2>off air. Also, I don't know if you've got Duke in.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we wanted to bring Leo in.

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<v Speaker 2>Leo and Duke Live Radio. Don't know if that necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>blends with the type of audio that listeners of the

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<v Speaker 2>Drive want to deal with on a Friday, So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just have to resort from a remote hit from home.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, Duke is in the house, the station mascot

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<v Speaker 1>is in the house. Would have loved to see Leo.

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<v Speaker 1>I still haven't met the young lad. Maybe at some

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<v Speaker 1>point we'll do that. Let me ask you this, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>now that we've wasted five minutes, because that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have friends or family or relatives that just

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<v Speaker 1>believe that because you work in sports, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>fill out their bracket like this time of year? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you get it? Do you get people asking you for advice?

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<v Speaker 2>The only one who does is the most important one,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's my wife. Every single year. She sent me

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<v Speaker 2>actually a text yesterday saying that there is a prize

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<v Speaker 2>amongst the teachers at her elementary school this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would love you to guess what the what the

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<v Speaker 2>prize is for the person that finishes with the best,

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<v Speaker 2>most accurate bracket at the end of March.

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<v Speaker 1>Mad is this going to make me depressed to the

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<v Speaker 1>state of how we treat teachers in America. It will

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<v Speaker 1>a free packet of erasers and tensils.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, somehow even worse at fifteen minute break

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<v Speaker 2>stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first place prize at it. It's at a

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<v Speaker 1>mandoned school. Is If you win it, you get to

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<v Speaker 1>take fifteen minutes off of your class fifteen minutes. Oh gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>So that being said, I have a lot riding on

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<v Speaker 2>my shoulders this year. Man. You know that nobody grinds

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<v Speaker 2>college shoop like me, So I'm going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>be very judicious when it comes to picking my you know,

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<v Speaker 2>teams that are going to make a deep run. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always obsessed with, you know, a thirteen seed making a

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<v Speaker 2>run that I always get wrong. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if we're going to necessarily have one of those this year.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a lot riding on my shoulders, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Goodness, gracious, your wife seems like such a pleasant person.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that fair to say? A very happy, pleasant kind person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean probably among the most happy and pleasant

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<v Speaker 2>people that I know. You would imagine that if she wasn't,

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<v Speaker 2>her and I would not work out very well because

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<v Speaker 2>the yin the yang, you know, I believe there needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be a balance for some people, especially for folks

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<v Speaker 2>like me. So, yes, you are right in that scouting report,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean, listen, she's the only one that really

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<v Speaker 2>asked me. My buddies who I grew up with still

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<v Speaker 2>are holding on to the dying embers of a bracket

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<v Speaker 2>pool that we're down to like five guys sometimes four.

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<v Speaker 2>And no nobody even really watches college basketball obviously as

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<v Speaker 2>much as we used to. We're all old, we have kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So sometimes you'll get, you know, somebody that's gonna pick

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<v Speaker 2>like a ten seed to win it all, And it's

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<v Speaker 2>still fun, but it's I like to remind people that

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<v Speaker 2>nobody cares how your bracket's doing in public. You can,

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<v Speaker 2>you can talk about it privately, but nobody cares about

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<v Speaker 2>how many picks you got right or wrong. Nobody does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing as your fantasy team. Nobody gives

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<v Speaker 1>a rip, you know, so don't talk about it in public.

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<v Speaker 1>I just because I can remember at one point, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this was during COVID when nothing was real, didn't Amanda

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<v Speaker 1>Hop on the show I had you on, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't I make you give her the phone? And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember I saw that, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>was back when, like you said, nothing was real. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the time of year that you could like be

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<v Speaker 2>outside even though everything wasn't real. We didn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>kid yet, so you could enjoy anything. Not saying you

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<v Speaker 2>can't enjoy things, but you know what I mean, and

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<v Speaker 2>that your listeners who have been there like you and

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<v Speaker 2>I know what I mean. So yeah, but we're ten

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<v Speaker 2>minutes in and we haven't even talked a lock about sports.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll get there at some point. I did this

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<v Speaker 1>exercise with some friends of mine not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We had everybody send to the thread your most COVID picture, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the most COVID picture. And I can't even tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what I look like. It's hard to describe. I look

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<v Speaker 1>like a hardened criminal. It's like a Charles Manson type look,

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<v Speaker 1>super long hair. I didn't realize that my beard was

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<v Speaker 1>as loose as it was. But long story short, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to renew my driver's license during COVID, which, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, hours in line and my license picture. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to show you my license picture next time we're together.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't look anything like me. It is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think what mine would be. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>change that much. I mean, I guess I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>got bored and I dyed my hair and got a

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<v Speaker 2>little more extreme. But there's a picture that comes to

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<v Speaker 2>mind of hiking Mount Olympus with Trav, Aaron Falk, and

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Or while Bill was in town for a day.

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<v Speaker 2>We hiked Mount Olympus in the summer of twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>and Trav had this amazing huge beard. He had like

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<v Speaker 2>a Nate bench bull hat. And that's the one look

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<v Speaker 2>and like thought that I always go back to because

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<v Speaker 2>everybody went there separately. You know, obviously we were together,

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<v Speaker 2>but we were outside. It was a very interesting time.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's if I had to pick one, and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>send it to you. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that Yes, please do, and I'll send you mine.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're gonna be horrified at what you see when

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<v Speaker 1>I send this to you. I actually just found it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm sending it to you right now. Hey, while

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<v Speaker 1>we're in this nonsensical space on a Friday, because hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's Friday. This week, I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday was the five year anniversary of the Jazz in OKC.

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<v Speaker 1>When go bear tested positive and then the game was canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>Hour later we get the WOJ bomb the season has

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<v Speaker 1>been canceled. I wonder what your memories are of that

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<v Speaker 1>night now for me, because of course I asked you

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<v Speaker 1>so I could tell you my thing. I was finishing

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<v Speaker 1>you know, our guy Dave Fox. I finished up the show,

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<v Speaker 1>I said to my producer, Okay, I'm just walking across

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<v Speaker 1>right before I walked into the building, I get the

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<v Speaker 1>alert go bear test positive. Jazz OKC postponed. This was

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<v Speaker 1>before the whole thing was canceled, and I called Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hey, what do you want to do. He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you still got to come in so we can fill

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And we put on our best Joe Rogan

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<v Speaker 1>amateur epidemiologist hats and tried to walk people through what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on. In my mind, I'm like, is Rudy

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<v Speaker 1>gonna die? I mean, we didn't know anything yet about

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<v Speaker 1>the entire situation. And then an hour later you get

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<v Speaker 1>the text and the alert from Woes the season is

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<v Speaker 1>no longer. Where were you that night? What do you remember?

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<v Speaker 1>What are your memories of that five years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>In honor of the great Lester Bangs. I'm home. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always home, So like I was where I was right now,

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<v Speaker 2>watching on TV. I was texting Tony, I was texting Andy.

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember it being crazy because like an hour

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<v Speaker 2>or two after the game got called off, Andy was

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<v Speaker 2>on CNN, like like they just got him on talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it, because like everything had stopped, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, no, there's Andy and he's on CNN to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, you know, how they're going to get home

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<v Speaker 2>and all these requirements that they had to go to,

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<v Speaker 2>the rigorous testing and so on and so forth. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's always going to be my memory is Andy

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<v Speaker 2>classic you know, nerdy editor talk, which really pulls in

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<v Speaker 2>and that one that you mentioned is probably at the top.

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<v Speaker 1>You you'll meet them all again on their long road

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<v Speaker 1>to the middle. And I remember that one, yes, yes, correct,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean, probably almost famous, probably Boogie Knights,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Wilson's War Underrated Foulk was in the bubble right.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you communicating with him during that time, because I

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<v Speaker 1>can remember him sending out some social posts of like

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<v Speaker 1>It was Orlando, right, bubbles.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I mean it was it was at your place, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that my place? Because I happened to be

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody went there recently and it wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I crushed the Toy Story ride. I have to

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<v Speaker 2>Listen. It took me like five or six times to

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<v Speaker 2>don't get jealous or like competitive all that often, but

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<v Speaker 2>after like the third loss, I was like, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>Want, okay, but it takes it's like an hour wait

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<v Speaker 1>to get on that ride. You guys got back in

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<v Speaker 1>line like four straight times, so you could beat her

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<v Speaker 2>I think this was back when you could get those

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<v Speaker 2>fast passes, so we would always just get a front

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<v Speaker 2>of the line bump for that because the line was

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<v Speaker 2>so long. And I was weirdly and like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not competitive really about anything in life. But she

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<v Speaker 2>was just taking me to school every single time, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, come on, man, have a little self respect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that hard, you know. Okay, No, No, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there there are cheats like the bo peep level. If

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<v Speaker 1>you shoot the lambs that are coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the barn, you get an extra thousand points

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<v Speaker 2>The poor lambs they're screaming.

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<v Speaker 1>BYU's playing Houston tonight, Chris Let's transit does March Madness

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<v Speaker 1>move the needle for you at all? I mean, we've

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<v Speaker 1>already gone over because this is the time of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I already have three requests to fill out brackets, and

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how many times I explain to them, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter how much you watch, this is impossible. I

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<v Speaker 1>still get the same requests every single year. I am

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<v Speaker 1>of the opinion that this is the best individual sporting

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<v Speaker 1>event that we have on our calendar. Every year. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. I geek out on it. It's the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason college basketball still generates revenue. Does March Madness move

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<v Speaker 1>the needle for you at all? Personally?

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<v Speaker 2>I will say Thursday through Sunday the first weekend does,

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<v Speaker 2>and then after that I'm kind of like tapping out

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't necessarily need to see Duke play Tennessee

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<v Speaker 2>in the Sweet sixteen. I mean, maybe I do this

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<v Speaker 2>year because I got to crush the Cooper flag tape.

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<v Speaker 2>As we know, I mean, hopefully he'll be healthy and

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<v Speaker 2>playing then, but the opening, first and second round is

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<v Speaker 2>it for me? I agree that it's it brings people

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<v Speaker 2>in at a level that the average kind of nonsports

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<v Speaker 2>fan doesn't get brought into any other thing. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>like yearly annually. You're right. I think the World Cup,

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<v Speaker 2>the Olympics would be on that list, but those are

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<v Speaker 2>every two to four years. But yeah, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love hearing of a school that I've never heard

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<v Speaker 2>of beating a school that I have heard of, and

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<v Speaker 2>then looking at my bracket and be like, oh, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Have that, So BYU Houston tonight. If they win, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>advance of the Big twelve. Championship and maybe grab a

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<v Speaker 1>top three seed. I've been saying, c K and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what your gig was back when jim Or

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<v Speaker 1>was at BYU. Were you still in college?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you still no? When jim Or was in college,

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<v Speaker 2>I was the high school sports writer for the Park

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<v Speaker 2>Record in Park City, covering Park City High School, North

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<v Speaker 2>Summit High School, South Summon High School. One Porter Larson

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<v Speaker 2>I think was dunking the basketball back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are stories We've talked about this before,

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<v Speaker 2>but covered Porter's basketball and football exploits and covered Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where what I was doing back then. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was very, very very low on the total port.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, Porter, what years were you in high school?

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty thirteen was my last year there.

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<v Speaker 1>So were you on the beat when one young Porter

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<v Speaker 1>Larson was catching touchdowns and dunking putbacks? Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any memories of this?

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<v Speaker 2>I know that Porter was on He was on a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good team that I think won the football title

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<v Speaker 2>in like twenty eleven. Porter might have to correct me

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<v Speaker 2>on this. Hayden Packard, great running back.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually didn't win football we should have and got

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<v Speaker 3>upset every year. Second place every time. But no, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>was on the byline of a game winning touchdown had

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<v Speaker 3>against Bridgefield nice in the in the playoffs. And then

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<v Speaker 3>it was the basketball team we had a title in

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<v Speaker 3>like twenty ten and then they won.

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<v Speaker 2>A bunch was on that team. Who else was on

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<v Speaker 2>that team?

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<v Speaker 1>Porter, A bunch of right ulches, a bunch of as

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<v Speaker 1>we know, get all the righte ultras. You're doing just fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, shout out to my Camus folks. Oh there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. All right? Well, anyway, so you were not

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<v Speaker 1>covering college basketball, you're covering high school all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But this I think it's their best chance at something

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<v Speaker 1>special since then. And you know that team with fordet

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<v Speaker 1>probably I don't know if they're a Final four worthy,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know the whole Brandon Davis thing. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>ratted out apparently down there honor code violations suspend him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they went to the sweet sixteen if

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<v Speaker 1>I remember correctly. But is this the beginning of something

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<v Speaker 1>pretty special with aj de bants are rolling into town

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<v Speaker 1>next year? Like it seems like BYU is really the

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<v Speaker 1>talk of national college football pundits. You know you you

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<v Speaker 1>name it or excuse me, college basketball pundits, you name it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, they're talking about this run BYU is on

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<v Speaker 1>and then what they could have coming into, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of coming into the season next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, with AJ coming in, I think you would need

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<v Speaker 2>one of, if not multiple current star players on the

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<v Speaker 2>roster to decide to come back. Richie Saunders is a junior.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he come back? Does? What does his draft braide

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<v Speaker 2>look like after this tournament? You know, a Mission kid,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's older, his window is going to shrink like

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<v Speaker 2>all Mission kid windows do. Dollen Hall's a junior. Kevocado

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<v Speaker 2>is a junior. Now, I don't think the NBA is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be busting down the door for all these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>but maybe Richie, You're gonna lose guys like Triore and

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<v Speaker 2>your guy Trevinell. But I think in order for BYU

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<v Speaker 2>to keep this thing going and potentially be better, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't necessarily start over from scratch with the number one

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<v Speaker 2>player in the country with you know, guys that have

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<v Speaker 2>been you know, role players, you know, trying to think

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<v Speaker 2>of this, you know, Dawson Baker looking at the roster,

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<v Speaker 2>Cannon Catchings, who apparently is going to be a lottery pick,

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<v Speaker 2>but I haven't seen him, like really play one minute

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<v Speaker 2>this year despite watching some DYU basketball games. Are we

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<v Speaker 2>are we assuming that Igor Demon is gone? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a lottery pick. I think he's a

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<v Speaker 1>top ten pick. From everything I read, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably gone, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Richie Sonders and Igor Demon to come back next year

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<v Speaker 2>along with Aj Debonsa, then we can have a legit

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<v Speaker 2>conversation about, yeah, these guys can potent, potentially, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have a hell of a season, But I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>really hard to be able to pull that off with

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<v Speaker 2>the weight of pressure that's going to be on a

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<v Speaker 2>kid like Aj Debantsa. And I know they're bringing in

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<v Speaker 2>another kid who's apparently really good, but focusing on what

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<v Speaker 2>this year's team does really well, I mean they shoot

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<v Speaker 2>the ball like crazy, and I know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>talk about basketball cliches. If your three point shooting team

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<v Speaker 2>and your three point shot doesn't fall one day, you

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<v Speaker 2>could be in a heap of trouble. So I'm fascinated

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<v Speaker 2>to see how this BYU team does when they go

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<v Speaker 2>up against either a really good team like they do

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<v Speaker 2>against Houston to night, or maybe a lower seat in

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<v Speaker 2>the first round of the tournament, and a three point

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<v Speaker 2>shot isn't going down. Are they the type of team

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<v Speaker 2>that can overcome that?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a philosophical question for you about college basketball

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<v Speaker 1>coaching based off of some topics we've had on the

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<v Speaker 1>show over the past couple of weeks. Now that Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Jensen is high speed ahead of becoming the seventeenth head

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<v Speaker 1>coach in Utah men's basketball history. So when they fired

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Skoviak, I heard from a few different alums on

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<v Speaker 1>and off the show that they didn't love the way

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<v Speaker 1>Larry handled the alumni. They didn't think he embraced the past.

428
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<v Speaker 1>They didn't think he understood what Utah meant. Montana guy

429
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<v Speaker 1>would have you. And now after Craig has been let go,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a couple of guests, Josh grandmothers talk about

431
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<v Speaker 1>the same thing with Craig. Like alumni tried to reach out,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't necessarily reciprocate anything. He wasn't open to those

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<v Speaker 1>relationships or conversations. And I got to be honest, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's the job of a head coach

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<v Speaker 1>in college basketball to just appease the alumni, even an

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<v Speaker 1>alumni base as rich in tradition and history as Utah

437
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<v Speaker 1>basketball is like, you've got a job to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think part of your job description is to

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<v Speaker 1>answer every phone call you get from an alumn to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure they have front row seats or they can

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<v Speaker 1>go observe practice. What is the job when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to college basketball and an alumni base that feels like

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<v Speaker 1>they have not been taking care of the way they

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<v Speaker 1>believe they deserve to be well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the alumni is always going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>bone to pick with coaches that don't worship the ground

447
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<v Speaker 2>that they walk on because they believe that they have

448
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<v Speaker 2>a direct say or impact on the success of the program. Presumably,

449
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<v Speaker 2>if you're a deep pocketed donor alumni, you're you're gonna say, like,

450
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<v Speaker 2>I help facilitate deals in the nil era. If you're

451
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<v Speaker 2>a former player, you're wondering like, why can't Why isn't

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<v Speaker 2>the red carpet rolled out for me? I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the ins and outs of it. I would I agree

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<v Speaker 2>with you, but I also think like in the Grand

455
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<v Speaker 2>scheme of things. It's probably very small potatoes to be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Keith van Horne, come talk to our team, like on

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<v Speaker 2>the anniversary of your putback against whoever the belief that

458
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<v Speaker 2>would Like it's I understand that you're not supposed to

459
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<v Speaker 2>cowtow to you know, the ghosts of the past, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not hard to just maybe take I don't know,

461
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<v Speaker 2>one day a month, one day every two months to

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<v Speaker 2>bring somebody back to talk to the team or let

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<v Speaker 2>them see it in or just hear them out. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, like the amount of money that these guys

465
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<v Speaker 2>get paid. Like, I know you're busy, I know you

466
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<v Speaker 2>have a lot on your plate, but like you have

467
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<v Speaker 2>to basically be willing to do whatever you can in

468
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<v Speaker 2>order to make your program successful. For example, this is

469
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<v Speaker 2>a hard tangent, but it's kind of local. Recently talked

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<v Speaker 2>to Mark Matson, the mad Dog now coach at CAL Basketball,

471
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<v Speaker 2>was at UVU, played at Stanford, played with kobein shak

472
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<v Speaker 2>for a story about Cal Basketball's travel in the ACC

473
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<v Speaker 2>in the first year. Mark decided to take it upon

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<v Speaker 2>himself to leave a bunch of open seats on their

475
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<v Speaker 2>charter flights their cross country charter flights for high profile

476
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<v Speaker 2>alumni and donors to get to get a sense of

477
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<v Speaker 2>like how difficult this reality is in the ACC because

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<v Speaker 2>you open the door to people, you let them in.

479
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<v Speaker 2>The odds are they're gonna you know, your team is

480
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<v Speaker 2>going to be humanized, They're going to be excited. I

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<v Speaker 2>know it's not for everybody. I know. Mark is a

482
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<v Speaker 2>very unique dude, a very jovial, easygoing guy. But like

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<v Speaker 2>that is a that is an anecdote that I would

484
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<v Speaker 2>like lean on. Just God, yeah, like it's it's worth trying.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't see like how it could hurt.

486
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<v Speaker 2>But every coach is different. And you know, Larry was

487
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<v Speaker 2>a pretty hard nosed guy. And the Craig thing was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty surprising to me because I always, you know, figured

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<v Speaker 2>that he was a type of guy that maybe always

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the spectrum magic at the Utah State then

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<v Speaker 2>the huntsman magic at Utah. I always figured maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>would be the type of guy that would want to

493
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<v Speaker 2>lean on some people who would have success here. But listen,

494
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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's a difficult job. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a difficult job for Alex. I mean, I know there

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<v Speaker 2>are people that are talking about, you know, you're gonna

497
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<v Speaker 2>have to retain players in order to hit the ground running,

498
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.720
<v Speaker 2>like this roster was not good. Like if we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the dude who hit the portal today as like

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<v Speaker 2>a building block, he averaged six points a game, man,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think you got you gotta really like look

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<v Speaker 2>at this thing with your roast colored glasses like smashed

503
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<v Speaker 2>on the floor. Like this is a This is a rebuild,

504
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.279
<v Speaker 2>and it can happen either really fast or it could

505
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<v Speaker 2>take some time. But the Utah men's basketball team just

506
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a lot of good players, and they haven't

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, TK, before I set you loose, b YU

509
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<v Speaker 1>playing Houston and RSL also playing team from Houston. It

510
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<v Speaker 1>has been since twenty eighteen that RSL has been able

511
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<v Speaker 1>to win in Houston. It's a nine game winless run.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking US Open Cup, League's Cup, MLS Cup playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. They can't win down there. It's odd. It's

514
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<v Speaker 1>like Seattle can't win here. I don't fully understand it,

515
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<v Speaker 1>but you know, obviously the start of the for the

516
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<v Speaker 1>lads has not been great. My guy Forrester, your guy Pole,

517
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<v Speaker 1>the two Young Nines, with a lot of pressure on them.

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<v Speaker 1>We wait every day to hear this announcement of this

519
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<v Speaker 1>you know, mythical maybe fictional number nine that apparently is

520
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<v Speaker 1>on the way. But what are you looking for from

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<v Speaker 1>the lads tomorrow as they travel down to Houston. At

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<v Speaker 1>least it's not August. At least it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be one hundred and ten degrees.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, Yeah, and that has generally been a thorn in

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<v Speaker 2>the side of anybody going to Houston in basically July

526
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 2>to September. But listen, they RSL had their chances last week,

527
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<v Speaker 2>and it's just a team that doesn't have a lot

528
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<v Speaker 2>of confidence in itself right now. You can tell, like,

529
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<v Speaker 2>I know they're probably you know, I know your your vibes,

530
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<v Speaker 2>guy Pablo is probably waxing poetic about you know, how

531
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<v Speaker 2>they got to fix things. But you had three one

532
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<v Speaker 2>on ones, three individual one on ones with the goalkeeper

533
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>last week against San Diego, and you put everyone wide.

534
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<v Speaker 2>You didn't put one in the goalies like stomach like

535
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<v Speaker 2>that is that to me is evidence of a team

536
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<v Speaker 2>that is currently low on talent where it matters in

537
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<v Speaker 2>the attacking third and be low on self belief in

538
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<v Speaker 2>the attacking period, and that doesn't get you that far

539
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>in this league anymore. So can they get the Houston

540
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:12.279
<v Speaker 2>can they get rid of the Houston bug? Maybe you know,

541
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:15.799
<v Speaker 2>the the Ben Elsen Houston Damo have had Pablo's number

542
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.799
<v Speaker 2>for a while, So interesting to see what they do.

543
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's going to be Peel or

544
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:24.839
<v Speaker 2>you're a guy Forrester, but it it came across, it

545
00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:27.920
<v Speaker 2>came apart at the seams very quickly last week, and

546
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 2>it shouldn't have been the case. And I just think

547
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:31.839
<v Speaker 2>this is a team that just needs more talent, and

548
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're going to be able to get,

549
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, usable high end talent in house in order

550
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<v Speaker 2>to make a you know, a potential playoff run. Because

551
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm banging this drum on your show until

552
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:49.400
<v Speaker 2>the end of time. Like it's going to take anybody

553
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>coming into this league a long time to acclimate, whether

554
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 2>they come in in April, May, June, July, or August.

555
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.400
<v Speaker 2>So you can't necessarily count on those guys because they're

556
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<v Speaker 2>learning on the fly. Now, if you can acquire somebody

557
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:03.839
<v Speaker 2>in the league who can do it and it's proven

558
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:06.200
<v Speaker 2>they can do it, I think that's a different story.

559
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:11.960
<v Speaker 2>But right now, I think RSL just has to figure

560
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<v Speaker 2>out who they are, because clearly through the first month

561
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:16.759
<v Speaker 2>of the season, they've been all over.

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<v Speaker 1>The place, all right, c K, Well sincere, apologies. That

563
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>was immature to call you a name to start off

564
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the show. I was just depressed that my friend was

565
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<v Speaker 1>not joining me in studio. So I take it back.

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<v Speaker 1>You are not a coward. You are brave, you are strong.

567
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<v Speaker 1>I see you, I hear you. Have a great weekend, Okay,

568
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<v Speaker 1>I feel seen. Thank you, Ah the great Chris Comroddie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important porter these days to let people know that

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<v Speaker 1>you see them and you hear them. I agree, I

571
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<v Speaker 1>see you and I hear you.

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<v Speaker 3>I can barely see you with the glare in this.

573
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<v Speaker 1>Don't now now I'm having mental health issues. It's no,

574
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<v Speaker 1>it's a vision. Take it back. Just say that you

575
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>see me and you hear me. I see clearly. Thank you.

576
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<v Speaker 1>So you just sent me a PK. Did cover a

577
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:56.079
<v Speaker 1>game that you played in?

578
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was on the sideline for some some two

579
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<v Speaker 3>way football action.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you ever want me to bring in my

581
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<v Speaker 1>six A championship rings so you can look at it,

582
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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to do that, you should do so all right.