Speaker 1: Is this Kenny Rogers hell yeah something? Uh, the only
Speaker 1: reason I know that? Does he sing the Gambler?
Speaker 2: He does?
Speaker 1: He does? And also little known facts lu seal a
Speaker 1: few others little known big big day fact. My pops
Speaker 1: loves the Kenny Rogers Christmas album. I have no idea
Speaker 1: why I grew up listening to the Kenny Rogers Christmas
Speaker 1: album way too much because it's awesome. I'm not a
Speaker 1: Christmas music guy. Awesome is overstating the Kenny Rogers Christmas album.
Speaker 1: And so yes, Chris Com, let's ask Chris Com running
Speaker 1: I didn't strike you as a Kenny Rodgers fan? What's
Speaker 1: what's the deal on a Friday?
Speaker 2: Hell words during opening tip?
Speaker 1: Sorry say again?
Speaker 2: We did?
Speaker 1: We didn't have you pot it up? Say again?
Speaker 2: I heard that there was some some fighting words during
Speaker 2: opening tip, something about me being a coward. So I
Speaker 2: thought that it would be uh on points to roll
Speaker 2: with the theme that apparently is part of I guess.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're not wrong. It's thirty five degrees, it's cold.
Speaker 2: What else am I gonna do? But Kenny Rogers is
Speaker 2: good man, Big Dave has get taste?
Speaker 1: Did I use the term coward? That is oh man,
Speaker 1: that's okay, Okay, well that was too much. I apologize.
Speaker 2: I would just say I heard of Academy though it's good.
Speaker 2: It's a great song. Kind of it's kind of fitting
Speaker 2: for me at this time of year. Just not really
Speaker 2: willing to budge when it comes to what I feel
Speaker 2: like doing or don't feel like doing. But we're almost there, man,
Speaker 2: I believe staunchly that we're almost there.
Speaker 1: I must be grumpy today because I said Dave mcmanniman
Speaker 1: looks like a keebler elf too.
Speaker 3: You're being mean to all our guests.
Speaker 1: This is the day after Josh Grant. Are you gonna
Speaker 1: be mean to Paul Pugmyer? You can't be mean and
Speaker 1: to Paul Puppet That's what I'm asking. But Josh Grant
Speaker 1: yesterday on the show told me that I was way
Speaker 1: too nice, So you're over correcting. Yeah, c K what you?
Speaker 1: Josh Grant rolls on the show yesterday and accuses me
Speaker 1: of being way too nice and says I'm too nice
Speaker 1: all the time to a fault.
Speaker 2: On air or in life.
Speaker 1: You know you don't have to do that. Only on air, Okay,
Speaker 1: only on air.
Speaker 2: I don't think like I listened to the Bilberr interview
Speaker 2: with Terry Gross on Fresh Air this week, and it
Speaker 2: got somewhat. He was pretty demonstrative, as he's known to
Speaker 2: do and known to be, and like it was engaging
Speaker 2: and it was fun because for once, like people were
Speaker 2: having an honest conversation. I don't think you necessarily need
Speaker 2: to be the type of host that pokes the bear
Speaker 2: and goes for you know this, you know the hyperbolic
Speaker 2: ESPN screaming at the universe type stuff. But I think
Speaker 2: you tell the line pretty well. Man.
Speaker 1: That's kind of you, and you should know that. Both
Speaker 1: Porter and I were just sad that you didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: honor us with your presence on a Friday. So I
Speaker 1: apologize for the name, but we were mostly just sad
Speaker 1: you're not here.
Speaker 2: Well. I mean, name calling is normal in society and
Speaker 2: it goes all the way up to the very highest ranks.
Speaker 2: I was taught when I was a kid that you're
Speaker 2: not supposed to call people names. But you're my close friend,
Speaker 2: so you can call me whatever you want on or
Speaker 2: off air. Also, I don't know if you've got Duke in.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we wanted to bring Leo in.
Speaker 2: Leo and Duke Live Radio. Don't know if that necessarily
Speaker 2: blends with the type of audio that listeners of the
Speaker 2: Drive want to deal with on a Friday, So we'll
Speaker 2: just have to resort from a remote hit from home.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, Duke is in the house, the station mascot
Speaker 1: is in the house. Would have loved to see Leo.
Speaker 1: I still haven't met the young lad. Maybe at some
Speaker 1: point we'll do that. Let me ask you this, Chris,
Speaker 1: now that we've wasted five minutes, because that's what we do.
Speaker 1: Do you have friends or family or relatives that just
Speaker 1: believe that because you work in sports, you need to
Speaker 1: fill out their bracket like this time of year? Do
Speaker 1: you get it? Do you get people asking you for advice?
Speaker 2: The only one who does is the most important one,
Speaker 2: and it's my wife. Every single year. She sent me
Speaker 2: actually a text yesterday saying that there is a prize
Speaker 2: amongst the teachers at her elementary school this year, and
Speaker 2: I would love you to guess what the what the
Speaker 2: prize is for the person that finishes with the best,
Speaker 2: most accurate bracket at the end of March.
Speaker 1: Mad is this going to make me depressed to the
Speaker 1: state of how we treat teachers in America. It will
Speaker 1: a free packet of erasers and tensils.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, somehow even worse at fifteen minute break
Speaker 2: stop it.
Speaker 1: That's the first place prize at it. It's at a
Speaker 1: mandoned school. Is If you win it, you get to
Speaker 1: take fifteen minutes off of your class fifteen minutes. Oh gosh.
Speaker 2: So that being said, I have a lot riding on
Speaker 2: my shoulders this year. Man. You know that nobody grinds
Speaker 2: college shoop like me, So I'm going to have to
Speaker 2: be very judicious when it comes to picking my you know,
Speaker 2: teams that are going to make a deep run. I'm
Speaker 2: always obsessed with, you know, a thirteen seed making a
Speaker 2: run that I always get wrong. So I don't know
Speaker 2: if we're going to necessarily have one of those this year.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot riding on my shoulders, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Goodness, gracious, your wife seems like such a pleasant person.
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say? A very happy, pleasant kind person.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean probably among the most happy and pleasant
Speaker 2: people that I know. You would imagine that if she wasn't,
Speaker 2: her and I would not work out very well because
Speaker 2: the yin the yang, you know, I believe there needs
Speaker 2: to be a balance for some people, especially for folks
Speaker 2: like me. So, yes, you are right in that scouting report,
Speaker 2: but I mean, listen, she's the only one that really
Speaker 2: asked me. My buddies who I grew up with still
Speaker 2: are holding on to the dying embers of a bracket
Speaker 2: pool that we're down to like five guys sometimes four.
Speaker 2: And no nobody even really watches college basketball obviously as
Speaker 2: much as we used to. We're all old, we have kids.
Speaker 2: So sometimes you'll get, you know, somebody that's gonna pick
Speaker 2: like a ten seed to win it all, And it's
Speaker 2: still fun, but it's I like to remind people that
Speaker 2: nobody cares how your bracket's doing in public. You can,
Speaker 2: you can talk about it privately, but nobody cares about
Speaker 2: how many picks you got right or wrong. Nobody does.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing as your fantasy team. Nobody gives
Speaker 1: a rip, you know, so don't talk about it in public.
Speaker 1: I just because I can remember at one point, maybe
Speaker 1: this was during COVID when nothing was real, didn't Amanda
Speaker 1: Hop on the show I had you on, right, and
Speaker 1: didn't I make you give her the phone? And I
Speaker 1: remember I saw that, Okay.
Speaker 2: I think you did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that
Speaker 2: was back when, like you said, nothing was real. It
Speaker 2: was the time of year that you could like be
Speaker 2: outside even though everything wasn't real. We didn't have a
Speaker 2: kid yet, so you could enjoy anything. Not saying you
Speaker 2: can't enjoy things, but you know what I mean, and
Speaker 2: that your listeners who have been there like you and
Speaker 2: I know what I mean. So yeah, but we're ten
Speaker 2: minutes in and we haven't even talked a lock about sports.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get there at some point. I did this
Speaker 1: exercise with some friends of mine not too long ago.
Speaker 1: We had everybody send to the thread your most COVID picture, right,
Speaker 1: the most COVID picture. And I can't even tell you
Speaker 1: what I look like. It's hard to describe. I look
Speaker 1: like a hardened criminal. It's like a Charles Manson type look,
Speaker 1: super long hair. I didn't realize that my beard was
Speaker 1: as loose as it was. But long story short, I
Speaker 1: had to renew my driver's license during COVID, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, hours in line and my license picture. I've
Speaker 1: got to show you my license picture next time we're together.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look anything like me. It is wild.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what mine would be. I didn't
Speaker 2: change that much. I mean, I guess I kind of
Speaker 2: got bored and I dyed my hair and got a
Speaker 2: little more extreme. But there's a picture that comes to
Speaker 2: mind of hiking Mount Olympus with Trav, Aaron Falk, and
Speaker 2: Bill Or while Bill was in town for a day.
Speaker 2: We hiked Mount Olympus in the summer of twenty twenty
Speaker 2: and Trav had this amazing huge beard. He had like
Speaker 2: a Nate bench bull hat. And that's the one look
Speaker 2: and like thought that I always go back to because
Speaker 2: everybody went there separately. You know, obviously we were together,
Speaker 2: but we were outside. It was a very interesting time.
Speaker 2: So that's if I had to pick one, and I'll
Speaker 2: send it to you. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's that Yes, please do, and I'll send you mine.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna be horrified at what you see when
Speaker 1: I send this to you. I actually just found it,
Speaker 1: so I'm sending it to you right now. Hey, while
Speaker 1: we're in this nonsensical space on a Friday, because hey,
Speaker 1: you know it's Friday. This week, I think it was
Speaker 1: Wednesday was the five year anniversary of the Jazz in OKC.
Speaker 1: When go bear tested positive and then the game was canceled.
Speaker 1: Hour later we get the WOJ bomb the season has
Speaker 1: been canceled. I wonder what your memories are of that
Speaker 1: night now for me, because of course I asked you
Speaker 1: so I could tell you my thing. I was finishing
Speaker 1: up the show and I had a hit on Talking Sports,
Speaker 1: you know, our guy Dave Fox. I finished up the show,
Speaker 1: I said to my producer, Okay, I'm just walking across
Speaker 1: the street. I'm gonna go do this KTV thing. And
Speaker 1: right before I walked into the building, I get the
Speaker 1: alert go bear test positive. Jazz OKC postponed. This was
Speaker 1: before the whole thing was canceled, and I called Dave.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, what do you want to do. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: you still got to come in so we can fill
Speaker 1: the time. And we put on our best Joe Rogan
Speaker 1: amateur epidemiologist hats and tried to walk people through what
Speaker 1: was going on. In my mind, I'm like, is Rudy
Speaker 1: gonna die? I mean, we didn't know anything yet about
Speaker 1: the entire situation. And then an hour later you get
Speaker 1: the text and the alert from Woes the season is
Speaker 1: no longer. Where were you that night? What do you remember?
Speaker 1: What are your memories of that five years ago?
Speaker 2: In honor of the great Lester Bangs. I'm home. I'm
Speaker 2: always home, So like I was where I was right now,
Speaker 2: watching on TV. I was texting Tony, I was texting Andy.
Speaker 2: I just remember it being crazy because like an hour
Speaker 2: or two after the game got called off, Andy was
Speaker 2: on CNN, like like they just got him on talking
Speaker 2: about it, because like everything had stopped, and I was
Speaker 2: just like, no, there's Andy and he's on CNN to
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, how they're going to get home
Speaker 2: and all these requirements that they had to go to,
Speaker 2: the rigorous testing and so on and so forth. So
Speaker 2: that's that's always going to be my memory is Andy
Speaker 2: on CNN and texting Tony and Andy and just like
Speaker 2: seeing if they're okay and seeing how they were going
Speaker 2: to get home.
Speaker 1: Best Lester Bangs quote, See you made friends with them.
Speaker 1: Friendship is the booze they feed you. They want you
Speaker 1: to get drunk on feeling like you belong. Potentially, that's
Speaker 1: got to be in the mix.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like more random ones like give me a
Speaker 2: thousand words on Black Sabbath like that. That's that's like
Speaker 2: classic you know, nerdy editor talk, which really pulls in
Speaker 2: my heartstrings. But yes, there is a bevy of them,
Speaker 2: and that one that you mentioned is probably at the top.
Speaker 1: You you'll meet them all again on their long road
Speaker 1: to the middle. And I remember that one, yes, yes, correct,
Speaker 1: that one's so good. What a great movie, Philip Seymour
Speaker 1: hop and rest in peace? What a loss? Huh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean watched The Birdcage recently, which is
Speaker 2: one of my favorite movies. You know, two of the
Speaker 2: three out of the you know, the main people in
Speaker 2: that movie are now gone. Obviously, the goat Robin Williams
Speaker 2: left way too early, Gene Hackman. If we'd all be
Speaker 2: lucky to get to ninety five, man, so like I
Speaker 2: I would, you know, I would wish that for everybody
Speaker 2: that I care about. So yeah, man, it's just that's
Speaker 2: where we are right now.
Speaker 1: My son was doing an informal excuse me, an informal
Speaker 1: poll and he texted all of us to send in
Speaker 1: our top ten actors of all time. And I think
Speaker 1: I had Hoffman at three, and he was blown away.
Speaker 1: He didn't really because you know, he's a young I
Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't know that he's familiar. I
Speaker 1: definitely force fed him. Almost famous, probably too young. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's ever seen Boogie Knights or Lebowski. When
Speaker 1: you look at the body of work of Philip Seymour Hoffman,
Speaker 1: I think perennially underrated as far as just a great
Speaker 1: actor with range. That's my take on a Friday ck.
Speaker 2: Sandy Lyle, one of the nice one of the best
Speaker 2: Robbins to a Batman in any movie history. The Make
Speaker 2: It Rain montage and Along King pay My colleague Doug
Speaker 2: Holler actually wrote a story about that last year, like
Speaker 2: just about how Philip Seymour Hoffman basically ad libbed so
Speaker 2: much of that pick up basketball game in New York
Speaker 2: and just to make It Rain and all that silly stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, probably almost famous, probably Boogie Knights,
Speaker 2: talented mister Ripley. But Sandy when he's at the end
Speaker 2: of Along King PAULI, when he's pretending to be Ruben
Speaker 2: Fepper and he's he's in that boardroom and he just
Speaker 2: faked fake coughs the entire time to try to get
Speaker 2: through the fake presentation. I feel like that's what I
Speaker 2: would do if I was really hard pressed into something
Speaker 2: that I didn't know I could pull off. I would
Speaker 2: just you know, basically try to mask it with a
Speaker 2: fake cough for a good fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Charlie Wilson's War Underrated Foulk was in the bubble right.
Speaker 2: Did you us? Were you?
Speaker 1: Were you communicating with him during that time, because I
Speaker 1: can remember him sending out some social posts of like
Speaker 1: the food that they were that they were feeding them down.
Speaker 1: It was Orlando, right, bubbles.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean it was it was at your place, man,
Speaker 2: it was in Disney World.
Speaker 1: Why is that my place? Because I happened to be
Speaker 1: in Orlando last week.
Speaker 2: Somebody went there recently and it wasn't me.
Speaker 1: Well, I crushed the Toy Story ride. I have to
Speaker 1: beat my brother.
Speaker 2: Listen. It took me like five or six times to
Speaker 2: beat Amanda, Like she's so good at that. And I
Speaker 2: don't get jealous or like competitive all that often, but
Speaker 2: after like the third loss, I was like, I can't
Speaker 2: do this again, and it took me a while. So
Speaker 2: I'm glad you.
Speaker 1: Want, okay, but it takes it's like an hour wait
Speaker 1: to get on that ride. You guys got back in
Speaker 1: line like four straight times, so you could beat her
Speaker 1: in the shooting game.
Speaker 2: I think this was back when you could get those
Speaker 2: fast passes, so we would always just get a front
Speaker 2: of the line bump for that because the line was
Speaker 2: so long. And I was weirdly and like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm not competitive really about anything in life. But she
Speaker 2: was just taking me to school every single time, and
Speaker 2: I was like, come on, man, have a little self respect.
Speaker 1: It's not that hard, you know. Okay, No, No, Like
Speaker 1: there there are cheats like the bo peep level. If
Speaker 1: you shoot the lambs that are coming out of the
Speaker 1: top of the barn, you get an extra thousand points
Speaker 1: for each lamb you shoot.
Speaker 2: The poor lambs they're screaming.
Speaker 1: BYU's playing Houston tonight, Chris Let's transit does March Madness
Speaker 1: move the needle for you at all? I mean, we've
Speaker 1: already gone over because this is the time of the year.
Speaker 1: I already have three requests to fill out brackets, and
Speaker 1: no matter how many times I explain to them, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how much you watch, this is impossible. I
Speaker 1: still get the same requests every single year. I am
Speaker 1: of the opinion that this is the best individual sporting
Speaker 1: event that we have on our calendar. Every year. I
Speaker 1: love it. I geek out on it. It's the only
Speaker 1: reason college basketball still generates revenue. Does March Madness move
Speaker 1: the needle for you at all? Personally?
Speaker 2: I will say Thursday through Sunday the first weekend does,
Speaker 2: and then after that I'm kind of like tapping out
Speaker 2: because I don't necessarily need to see Duke play Tennessee
Speaker 2: in the Sweet sixteen. I mean, maybe I do this
Speaker 2: year because I got to crush the Cooper flag tape.
Speaker 2: As we know, I mean, hopefully he'll be healthy and
Speaker 2: playing then, but the opening, first and second round is
Speaker 2: it for me? I agree that it's it brings people
Speaker 2: in at a level that the average kind of nonsports
Speaker 2: fan doesn't get brought into any other thing. I think,
Speaker 2: like yearly annually. You're right. I think the World Cup,
Speaker 2: the Olympics would be on that list, but those are
Speaker 2: every two to four years. But yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: I love hearing of a school that I've never heard
Speaker 2: of beating a school that I have heard of, and
Speaker 2: then looking at my bracket and be like, oh, I didn't.
Speaker 1: Have that, So BYU Houston tonight. If they win, they'll
Speaker 1: advance of the Big twelve. Championship and maybe grab a
Speaker 1: top three seed. I've been saying, c K and I
Speaker 1: don't know what your gig was back when jim Or
Speaker 1: was at BYU. Were you still in college?
Speaker 2: Were you still no? When jim Or was in college,
Speaker 2: I was the high school sports writer for the Park
Speaker 2: Record in Park City, covering Park City High School, North
Speaker 2: Summit High School, South Summon High School. One Porter Larson
Speaker 2: I think was dunking the basketball back in the day.
Speaker 2: I think there are stories We've talked about this before,
Speaker 2: but covered Porter's basketball and football exploits and covered Olympics.
Speaker 2: So that's where what I was doing back then. I was.
Speaker 2: I was very, very very low on the total port.
Speaker 1: Wait, Porter, what years were you in high school?
Speaker 3: Twenty thirteen was my last year there.
Speaker 1: So were you on the beat when one young Porter
Speaker 1: Larson was catching touchdowns and dunking putbacks? Do you have
Speaker 1: any memories of this?
Speaker 2: I know that Porter was on He was on a
Speaker 2: pretty good team that I think won the football title
Speaker 2: in like twenty eleven. Porter might have to correct me
Speaker 2: on this. Hayden Packard, great running back.
Speaker 3: We actually didn't win football we should have and got
Speaker 3: upset every year. Second place every time. But no, yes,
Speaker 3: was on the byline of a game winning touchdown had
Speaker 3: against Bridgefield nice in the in the playoffs. And then
Speaker 3: it was the basketball team we had a title in
Speaker 3: like twenty ten and then they won.
Speaker 2: A bunch was on that team. Who else was on
Speaker 2: that team?
Speaker 1: Porter, A bunch of right ulches, a bunch of as
Speaker 1: we know, get all the righte ultras. You're doing just fine,
Speaker 1: but yeah, shout out to my Camus folks. Oh there
Speaker 1: you go. All right? Well, anyway, so you were not
Speaker 1: covering college basketball, you're covering high school all the time.
Speaker 1: But this I think it's their best chance at something
Speaker 1: special since then. And you know that team with fordet
Speaker 1: probably I don't know if they're a Final four worthy,
Speaker 1: but you know the whole Brandon Davis thing. He gets
Speaker 1: ratted out apparently down there honor code violations suspend him.
Speaker 1: And I think they went to the sweet sixteen if
Speaker 1: I remember correctly. But is this the beginning of something
Speaker 1: pretty special with aj de bants are rolling into town
Speaker 1: next year? Like it seems like BYU is really the
Speaker 1: talk of national college football pundits. You know you you
Speaker 1: name it or excuse me, college basketball pundits, you name it.
Speaker 1: Right now, they're talking about this run BYU is on
Speaker 1: and then what they could have coming into, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of coming into the season next year.
Speaker 2: Well, with AJ coming in, I think you would need
Speaker 2: one of, if not multiple current star players on the
Speaker 2: roster to decide to come back. Richie Saunders is a junior.
Speaker 2: Does he come back? Does? What does his draft braide
Speaker 2: look like after this tournament? You know, a Mission kid,
Speaker 2: so he's older, his window is going to shrink like
Speaker 2: all Mission kid windows do. Dollen Hall's a junior. Kevocado
Speaker 2: is a junior. Now, I don't think the NBA is
Speaker 2: going to be busting down the door for all these guys,
Speaker 2: but maybe Richie, You're gonna lose guys like Triore and
Speaker 2: your guy Trevinell. But I think in order for BYU
Speaker 2: to keep this thing going and potentially be better, you
Speaker 2: can't necessarily start over from scratch with the number one
Speaker 2: player in the country with you know, guys that have
Speaker 2: been you know, role players, you know, trying to think
Speaker 2: of this, you know, Dawson Baker looking at the roster,
Speaker 2: Cannon Catchings, who apparently is going to be a lottery pick,
Speaker 2: but I haven't seen him, like really play one minute
Speaker 2: this year despite watching some DYU basketball games. Are we
Speaker 2: are we assuming that Igor Demon is gone? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think he's a lottery pick. I think he's a
Speaker 1: top ten pick. From everything I read, I think he's
Speaker 1: probably gone, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, So basically what I'm saying is if if
Speaker 2: BYU and it's very deep, Nil donor base can convince
Speaker 2: Richie Sonders and Igor Demon to come back next year
Speaker 2: along with Aj Debonsa, then we can have a legit
Speaker 2: conversation about, yeah, these guys can potent, potentially, like you know,
Speaker 2: have a hell of a season, But I think it's
Speaker 2: really hard to be able to pull that off with
Speaker 2: the weight of pressure that's going to be on a
Speaker 2: kid like Aj Debantsa. And I know they're bringing in
Speaker 2: another kid who's apparently really good, but focusing on what
Speaker 2: this year's team does really well, I mean they shoot
Speaker 2: the ball like crazy, and I know, and you know,
Speaker 2: talk about basketball cliches. If your three point shooting team
Speaker 2: and your three point shot doesn't fall one day, you
Speaker 2: could be in a heap of trouble. So I'm fascinated
Speaker 2: to see how this BYU team does when they go
Speaker 2: up against either a really good team like they do
Speaker 2: against Houston to night, or maybe a lower seat in
Speaker 2: the first round of the tournament, and a three point
Speaker 2: shot isn't going down. Are they the type of team
Speaker 2: that can overcome that?
Speaker 1: I have a philosophical question for you about college basketball
Speaker 1: coaching based off of some topics we've had on the
Speaker 1: show over the past couple of weeks. Now that Alex
Speaker 1: Jensen is high speed ahead of becoming the seventeenth head
Speaker 1: coach in Utah men's basketball history. So when they fired
Speaker 1: Larry Skoviak, I heard from a few different alums on
Speaker 1: and off the show that they didn't love the way
Speaker 1: Larry handled the alumni. They didn't think he embraced the past.
Speaker 1: They didn't think he understood what Utah meant. Montana guy
Speaker 1: would have you. And now after Craig has been let go,
Speaker 1: I've had a couple of guests, Josh grandmothers talk about
Speaker 1: the same thing with Craig. Like alumni tried to reach out,
Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily reciprocate anything. He wasn't open to those
Speaker 1: relationships or conversations. And I got to be honest, man,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the job of a head coach
Speaker 1: in college basketball to just appease the alumni, even an
Speaker 1: alumni base as rich in tradition and history as Utah
Speaker 1: basketball is like, you've got a job to do, and
Speaker 1: I don't think part of your job description is to
Speaker 1: answer every phone call you get from an alumn to
Speaker 1: make sure they have front row seats or they can
Speaker 1: go observe practice. What is the job when it comes
Speaker 1: to college basketball and an alumni base that feels like
Speaker 1: they have not been taking care of the way they
Speaker 1: believe they deserve to be well.
Speaker 2: I mean, the alumni is always going to have a
Speaker 2: bone to pick with coaches that don't worship the ground
Speaker 2: that they walk on because they believe that they have
Speaker 2: a direct say or impact on the success of the program. Presumably,
Speaker 2: if you're a deep pocketed donor alumni, you're you're gonna say, like,
Speaker 2: I help facilitate deals in the nil era. If you're
Speaker 2: a former player, you're wondering like, why can't Why isn't
Speaker 2: the red carpet rolled out for me? I don't know
Speaker 2: the ins and outs of it. I would I agree
Speaker 2: with you, but I also think like in the Grand
Speaker 2: scheme of things. It's probably very small potatoes to be like, hey,
Speaker 2: Keith van Horne, come talk to our team, like on
Speaker 2: the anniversary of your putback against whoever the belief that
Speaker 2: would Like it's I understand that you're not supposed to
Speaker 2: cowtow to you know, the ghosts of the past, but
Speaker 2: it's not hard to just maybe take I don't know,
Speaker 2: one day a month, one day every two months to
Speaker 2: bring somebody back to talk to the team or let
Speaker 2: them see it in or just hear them out. I
Speaker 2: don't know, like the amount of money that these guys
Speaker 2: get paid. Like, I know you're busy, I know you
Speaker 2: have a lot on your plate, but like you have
Speaker 2: to basically be willing to do whatever you can in
Speaker 2: order to make your program successful. For example, this is
Speaker 2: a hard tangent, but it's kind of local. Recently talked
Speaker 2: to Mark Matson, the mad Dog now coach at CAL Basketball,
Speaker 2: was at UVU, played at Stanford, played with kobein shak
Speaker 2: for a story about Cal Basketball's travel in the ACC
Speaker 2: in the first year. Mark decided to take it upon
Speaker 2: himself to leave a bunch of open seats on their
Speaker 2: charter flights their cross country charter flights for high profile
Speaker 2: alumni and donors to get to get a sense of
Speaker 2: like how difficult this reality is in the ACC because
Speaker 2: you open the door to people, you let them in.
Speaker 2: The odds are they're gonna you know, your team is
Speaker 2: going to be humanized, They're going to be excited. I
Speaker 2: know it's not for everybody. I know. Mark is a
Speaker 2: very unique dude, a very jovial, easygoing guy. But like
Speaker 2: that is a that is an anecdote that I would
Speaker 2: like lean on. Just God, yeah, like it's it's worth trying.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't see like how it could hurt.
Speaker 2: But every coach is different. And you know, Larry was
Speaker 2: a pretty hard nosed guy. And the Craig thing was
Speaker 2: pretty surprising to me because I always, you know, figured
Speaker 2: that he was a type of guy that maybe always
Speaker 2: talked about the spectrum magic at the Utah State then
Speaker 2: the huntsman magic at Utah. I always figured maybe he
Speaker 2: would be the type of guy that would want to
Speaker 2: lean on some people who would have success here. But listen,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's a difficult job. It's going to be
Speaker 2: a difficult job for Alex. I mean, I know there
Speaker 2: are people that are talking about, you know, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to retain players in order to hit the ground running,
Speaker 2: like this roster was not good. Like if we're talking
Speaker 2: about the dude who hit the portal today as like
Speaker 2: a building block, he averaged six points a game, man,
Speaker 2: Like I think you got you gotta really like look
Speaker 2: at this thing with your roast colored glasses like smashed
Speaker 2: on the floor. Like this is a This is a rebuild,
Speaker 2: and it can happen either really fast or it could
Speaker 2: take some time. But the Utah men's basketball team just
Speaker 2: doesn't have a lot of good players, and they haven't
Speaker 2: for a long time.
Speaker 1: All right, TK, before I set you loose, b YU
Speaker 1: playing Houston and RSL also playing team from Houston. It
Speaker 1: has been since twenty eighteen that RSL has been able
Speaker 1: to win in Houston. It's a nine game winless run.
Speaker 1: We're talking US Open Cup, League's Cup, MLS Cup playoffs,
Speaker 1: regular season. They can't win down there. It's odd. It's
Speaker 1: like Seattle can't win here. I don't fully understand it,
Speaker 1: but you know, obviously the start of the for the
Speaker 1: lads has not been great. My guy Forrester, your guy Pole,
Speaker 1: the two Young Nines, with a lot of pressure on them.
Speaker 1: We wait every day to hear this announcement of this
Speaker 1: you know, mythical maybe fictional number nine that apparently is
Speaker 1: on the way. But what are you looking for from
Speaker 1: the lads tomorrow as they travel down to Houston. At
Speaker 1: least it's not August. At least it's not going to
Speaker 1: be one hundred and ten degrees.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, and that has generally been a thorn in
Speaker 2: the side of anybody going to Houston in basically July
Speaker 2: to September. But listen, they RSL had their chances last week,
Speaker 2: and it's just a team that doesn't have a lot
Speaker 2: of confidence in itself right now. You can tell, like,
Speaker 2: I know they're probably you know, I know your your vibes,
Speaker 2: guy Pablo is probably waxing poetic about you know, how
Speaker 2: they got to fix things. But you had three one
Speaker 2: on ones, three individual one on ones with the goalkeeper
Speaker 2: last week against San Diego, and you put everyone wide.
Speaker 2: You didn't put one in the goalies like stomach like
Speaker 2: that is that to me is evidence of a team
Speaker 2: that is currently low on talent where it matters in
Speaker 2: the attacking third and be low on self belief in
Speaker 2: the attacking period, and that doesn't get you that far
Speaker 2: in this league anymore. So can they get the Houston
Speaker 2: can they get rid of the Houston bug? Maybe you know,
Speaker 2: the the Ben Elsen Houston Damo have had Pablo's number
Speaker 2: for a while, So interesting to see what they do.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to be Peel or
Speaker 2: you're a guy Forrester, but it it came across, it
Speaker 2: came apart at the seams very quickly last week, and
Speaker 2: it shouldn't have been the case. And I just think
Speaker 2: this is a team that just needs more talent, and
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to be able to get,
Speaker 2: you know, usable high end talent in house in order
Speaker 2: to make a you know, a potential playoff run. Because
Speaker 2: you know, I'm banging this drum on your show until
Speaker 2: the end of time. Like it's going to take anybody
Speaker 2: coming into this league a long time to acclimate, whether
Speaker 2: they come in in April, May, June, July, or August.
Speaker 2: So you can't necessarily count on those guys because they're
Speaker 2: learning on the fly. Now, if you can acquire somebody
Speaker 2: in the league who can do it and it's proven
Speaker 2: they can do it, I think that's a different story.
Speaker 2: But right now, I think RSL just has to figure
Speaker 2: out who they are, because clearly through the first month
Speaker 2: of the season, they've been all over.
Speaker 1: The place, all right, c K, Well sincere, apologies. That
Speaker 1: was immature to call you a name to start off
Speaker 1: the show. I was just depressed that my friend was
Speaker 1: not joining me in studio. So I take it back.
Speaker 1: You are not a coward. You are brave, you are strong.
Speaker 1: I see you, I hear you. Have a great weekend, Okay,
Speaker 1: I feel seen. Thank you, Ah the great Chris Comroddie.
Speaker 1: It's important porter these days to let people know that
Speaker 1: you see them and you hear them. I agree, I
Speaker 1: see you and I hear you.
Speaker 3: I can barely see you with the glare in this.
Speaker 1: Don't now now I'm having mental health issues. It's no,
Speaker 1: it's a vision. Take it back. Just say that you
Speaker 1: see me and you hear me. I see clearly. Thank you.
Speaker 1: So you just sent me a PK. Did cover a
Speaker 1: game that you played in?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was on the sideline for some some two
Speaker 3: way football action.
Speaker 1: Well, if you ever want me to bring in my
Speaker 1: six A championship rings so you can look at it,
Speaker 1: I'm happy to do that, you should do so all right.