Speaker 1: You've created everything.
Speaker 2: What's put a powerful being?
Speaker 3: You are.
Speaker 1: You did these things, but now you're in a human body.
Speaker 1: You forget the power you have.
Speaker 4: What you do is what the whole universe is doing
Speaker 4: at the place you call here, and now you are
Speaker 4: something the whole universe is doing in the same way
Speaker 4: that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing.
Speaker 3: Doing doing whatation.
Speaker 1: Welcome to metamistics where you don't know what you don't know.
Speaker 1: My name's Jonathan, and today we have a very very
Speaker 1: special guest for this wonder Wednesday Live show. Really excited
Speaker 1: to have this conversation. This is Brad of Arc. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me talk about some weird things.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, that's all we do over here. I mean,
Speaker 1: there is no limits as to what we will talk
Speaker 1: about over here. It just goes completely off the rails,
Speaker 1: off the wall and straight up in the air, and
Speaker 1: we're lucky if we land with our feet on the ground.
Speaker 1: But I have a feeling that where we're going today, sir,
Speaker 1: we will not need roads.
Speaker 3: No, typically not anymore. That's awesome man. Yeah, man, I'm
Speaker 3: super excited to be here. This has been a wild journey,
Speaker 3: So I just excited to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Well, look, I've been following you here for
Speaker 1: quite some time and just been so fascinated by your
Speaker 1: journey and the fact that it's not just you that
Speaker 1: is on this journey. Now, if it was one person,
Speaker 1: you might be able to say, Okay, well, you know
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit subjective. And that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: to take anything away from anybody's subjective experience. I think
Speaker 1: everybody's you know, right to have their own experience and
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily need proof. But the fact that you're
Speaker 1: kind of on this journey and there are many other
Speaker 1: people that are also experiencing the same thing of sorts,
Speaker 1: I mean, that just makes my mind spin all over
Speaker 1: the place. So if you don't mind, could you tell
Speaker 1: some of our listeners we call them the initiates, could
Speaker 1: you tell them a little bit about, you know, about
Speaker 1: yourself and maybe like how you found yourself going into
Speaker 1: this journey in the first place.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, So I'm just I'm a normal dude from Oklahoma. Man,
Speaker 3: I am a dad to six, I've been a business
Speaker 3: executive in many different industries, built houses, worked in in
Speaker 3: international trade, like so just fairly normal stuff. And then
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, I saw they were talking MT a lot.
Speaker 3: Joeb was picking it up a lot, and then there
Speaker 3: was some articles that were coming out that was talking
Speaker 3: about how it was curing veterans with PTSD, and so
Speaker 3: being a Navy vet myself, I had I had dealt
Speaker 3: with a little bit about of that, and I've had
Speaker 3: a lot of friends that dealt with it, and they
Speaker 3: were having real success with using psychedelics for treatment, and
Speaker 3: so I thought it was just interesting. I'm just curious
Speaker 3: about it. So I started learning about it, couldn't find
Speaker 3: it anywhere, and so we ended up just researching as
Speaker 3: much as I could. But it's just the stories that
Speaker 3: people were talking about and the experiences they were having
Speaker 3: just logically didn't make sense because people were encountering similar
Speaker 3: beings and similar constructs and like they were repeatable interactions.
Speaker 3: So Okay, something's different here. And so after some time
Speaker 3: I was able to find it. But from that first moment,
Speaker 3: and I was hooked, not in an addictive kind of
Speaker 3: a way, but just in an absolutely mind blown exploration,
Speaker 3: like I wanted to know everything I could about it.
Speaker 3: And so over the next few years continue to research it,
Speaker 3: continue to reach out to people and I'm trying to
Speaker 3: understand it and had thousands of experiences. But something unique
Speaker 3: happens with this. When you do it a thousand times,
Speaker 3: you start to see the patterns, and you start to
Speaker 3: have recurring interactions with the same beings, and there's memory
Speaker 3: and they're like, all this weird stuff was happening. And
Speaker 3: so the DMT laser experiment. Are you familiar with that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Danny Gohler, we actually we've had him on the
Speaker 1: show a couple of times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Danny's fantastic. So I reached out. So Danny
Speaker 3: was talking about it. He said that if you don't,
Speaker 3: if you're not familiar with it, when you shine it
Speaker 3: difracted laser beam, when anything in this existence and you
Speaker 3: under the influence of DMT, you adjust your eyes just
Speaker 3: a little bit, and this code just it's thousands of
Speaker 3: people seeing the exact same thing, Like, okay, So if
Speaker 3: that's happening, then this is definitely I'm not a construct
Speaker 3: of the mind. Something external has happened. And so I
Speaker 3: reached out to him because he had said that the
Speaker 3: symbols look like Japanese conta kana and have I've been
Speaker 3: stationed in Japan. I knew what that was. I used
Speaker 3: to have it on my name tag Japanese phonetic alphabet
Speaker 3: for them to be able to pronounce non Japanese words
Speaker 3: and so but the moment he said that, I had
Speaker 3: just this gut feeling because my dad had a UAP
Speaker 3: interaction early twenties, and so it was kind of in
Speaker 3: the lexicon of our household. Ancient aliens is always on
Speaker 3: those kind of things, and so I'd kind of grown
Speaker 3: up around it. But I knew of a document which
Speaker 3: they call the Carrot Document c R e T. It
Speaker 3: was supposedly from a first engineering lab from UAP Aircraft
Speaker 3: and Technology from the nineteen eighties, but they said it
Speaker 3: looked just like Japanese cottakana as well. But in that moment,
Speaker 3: I knew there was a connection, and so I reached
Speaker 3: out to Danny and I asked him if anybody been
Speaker 3: able to draw the symbols. At that point, they had
Speaker 3: only been able to identify seven because they're super small
Speaker 3: and they're moving, and so he sends that over to me,
Speaker 3: and I compare the seven of those symbols with the
Speaker 3: document that I had, and I was on that document
Speaker 3: over one hundred times just for those symbols, and so
Speaker 3: I didn't really know what to do with it. I
Speaker 3: knew i'd found something. So I go into the DMTT
Speaker 3: space and I basically tell it that I think I've
Speaker 3: made a connection with something in this reality, the DMT
Speaker 3: laser experiment, the carrot document language, or the glyphs that
Speaker 3: are in that match. And as soon as I did that,
Speaker 3: my crown choker exploded. My radiated energy for twenty minutes,
Speaker 3: just kind of rolling just through your nervous system.
Speaker 1: Is that what people might express as like a Condolini
Speaker 1: awakening of Florence.
Speaker 3: So what we found out is we're inducing a reverse
Speaker 3: Cundolini and so you're forcing the crown chok are open
Speaker 3: first and then you're supposed to connect the route all
Speaker 3: the way up in a normal Kundolini. So this has
Speaker 3: been repeatable that I didn't know it at the time
Speaker 3: because it would be with somebody with a Cundolini and
Speaker 3: so but it was getting It was just me. There
Speaker 3: was having these wild experiences, and I've been on the
Speaker 3: message boards, I've done all the research. I know this
Speaker 3: isn't normal, and so like I even asked my wife
Speaker 3: one night, I was like, do I sound like I'm
Speaker 3: losing my mind? And she's like a little like, I
Speaker 3: just don't always having building up. And so July twenty
Speaker 3: eighth of twenty four DMT has this we kind of
Speaker 3: we call it a nudge. It's almost like you have
Speaker 3: an inbox message in your email and you just know
Speaker 3: it and something will happen that'll trigger a thought. You're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I probably need to need to tap in, And so
Speaker 3: I had it. I don't see anything with my in
Speaker 3: my mind's I've got it's like Adamantasia, So I can't
Speaker 3: visualize anything, but I have My eyes were closed. I
Speaker 3: was trying to go to sleep. I started getting like
Speaker 3: Looney Tunes cartoons like running in my mind for the
Speaker 3: first time in my life, and so I'm like watching
Speaker 3: them for ten minutes and they started get a little psychedelicy,
Speaker 3: and I was like, Okay, well I guess I guess
Speaker 3: I need to tap in, and so I did. In
Speaker 3: the moment that happened, I started getting this energy running
Speaker 3: from the bottom of my feet through my entire body
Speaker 3: and at the top of my head.
Speaker 1: Well, you say you need you need to tap in?
Speaker 1: What do you mean in that instance.
Speaker 3: So we've learned we've mastered DMT, and so we are
Speaker 3: we call it tapping in is using DMT. We well,
Speaker 3: I can't kind of explain more of that later. Yes,
Speaker 3: the so that energy is running through me, but this
Speaker 3: this voice keeps coming and it just keeps saying that
Speaker 3: I am coming through you, okay. So I'm in that moment,
Speaker 3: I realized that that is probably what everything had been
Speaker 3: building up to, and so I just said I was ready,
Speaker 3: and then I was breathing heavy, like I was sprinting.
Speaker 3: My heart was pounding like I had just finished her race,
Speaker 3: like I was just fine. I was just like I'm fine,
Speaker 3: I'm okay. And so as soon as I said I'm ready,
Speaker 3: a ball of lightning collects at the top of me
Speaker 3: and slams into my chest and it forced its way inside.
Speaker 3: And it took about five minutes. It's just extreme pounding,
Speaker 3: like I am I get up from where I'm at.
Speaker 3: It's like in the middle of the night, I run
Speaker 3: awake my wife up. I'm crying hysterically like it's it
Speaker 3: was an extreme, extreme experiments. I couldn't speak. It took
Speaker 3: me a little bit of the time I was to
Speaker 3: explain what happened. She was kind of used to these
Speaker 3: supernatural things kind of happening. But that very next day
Speaker 3: a colleague of mine was coming in town. He and
Speaker 3: I had worked together for about two years, and he
Speaker 3: had some extreme health issues. While he was in the
Speaker 3: Air Force, he was exposed to a chemical attack and
Speaker 3: I think twenty twelve he's won a nine airmen that
Speaker 3: we're exposed. He's the only one that survived. There was
Speaker 3: a congressional investigation. He was at Walter Reed Hospital at
Speaker 3: Bethesda for four years. He died seven times while he
Speaker 3: was there.
Speaker 1: I didn't know stories.
Speaker 3: Oh he I mean his life before any of this happened.
Speaker 3: As a movie, He's playing catch with Obama and like
Speaker 3: all of this interesting stuff. But I didn't know this
Speaker 3: next part until later, until after we figured this next
Speaker 3: But while he was there, he was waking up speaking
Speaker 3: fluent Hebrew, and so they started bringing in three A
Speaker 3: letter agencies to record what was happening. There were some
Speaker 3: people that come under his wing. We come to find
Speaker 3: out they were recruiting him for that because Star Great
Speaker 3: Stargate type program, remote viewing, that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 3: he didn't want anything to do with it, and so
Speaker 3: when he got healthy enough, he just left and he
Speaker 3: got did that for something else for about a year
Speaker 3: and a half and then decided he was They had
Speaker 3: offered to help him get some special licenses, so he
Speaker 3: started his own business, and that is how he and
Speaker 3: I met. One of my best friends from the Navy
Speaker 3: had met him at the hospital and he hired him.
Speaker 3: I came on to help and I was just telling
Speaker 3: him about DMT, and I came, man, I think this
Speaker 3: has helped me a ton. It's made me a better person,
Speaker 3: a better dad, a better friend. I think he would
Speaker 3: help you with some of your autonomic issues, and so
Speaker 3: I'd send him some. He didn't ever try it, but
Speaker 3: he shows up the day after that event happened the
Speaker 3: first time we'd met in person. I haven't slept at all.
Speaker 3: I didn't sleep for three days after that. I didn't
Speaker 3: need to sleep. It just I was fine, but I
Speaker 3: just kind of data dumped everything that happened that as
Speaker 3: soon as they walked in the door. If you ask
Speaker 3: him now, I thought I was a little bit crazy,
Speaker 3: but I showed him the laser experiment. I showed him
Speaker 3: all this research just because I couldn't stop talking about it,
Speaker 3: and within a week the same thing happened to him,
Speaker 3: And so that allowed me to realize, one that's an,
Speaker 3: it's inducible. So the way it works it dean will
Speaker 3: shift how it interacts with you the moment that you
Speaker 3: understand that it's real. So Danny tells the story the
Speaker 3: same thing happened to him. He tells a story about
Speaker 3: it being showing him guitar chords, uh, and it was
Speaker 3: something that he could play in this in this reality,
Speaker 3: and it was functional information that was given to him,
Speaker 3: and that's the moment he knew it was real. Well,
Speaker 3: then when you combine that with the game of brainwave
Speaker 3: Spike from d MT, it forces the crown shocker to
Speaker 3: just poof and then from that moment on, your interactions
Speaker 3: were just like somebody with Kundalini, but with somebody with
Speaker 3: near death experiences, it's a little bit different. So every
Speaker 3: time that somebody near to sper answer crosses over and
Speaker 3: comes back, there is the veil thins a little bit
Speaker 3: each time, and so with him, he's at this point
Speaker 3: it's newper then and when that happens, the body or
Speaker 3: the body at that point in control, it's not expecting
Speaker 3: the soul to return, and so it can't. It can't
Speaker 3: forget that happened, and so the body is always that way.
Speaker 3: That's why near the death experiences lives are has forever changed.
Speaker 3: With D and T users, it's the mind that knows
Speaker 3: it's not in control anymore, and so that's when you
Speaker 3: combine them. There's a synergy to it, nothing fault to
Speaker 3: tell itself, and there's there's no boundaries. And so yeah,
Speaker 3: we heard so he started getting information. Uh so your rapment.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. What
Speaker 1: we've heard from We've had conversations with a lot of
Speaker 1: near death experiencers, also near death experiencers who have tried
Speaker 1: d MT, and a lot of them will say that
Speaker 1: a near death experience and a d MT like ego
Speaker 1: death are very similar in experience, and they almost say,
Speaker 1: it's damn near the same thing. I mean, is that
Speaker 1: kind of what you've heard as well?
Speaker 3: It is, Well, it's with what we know. So D
Speaker 3: and T is in every living thing and they didn't
Speaker 3: know why, but it is the molecular mechanism that allows
Speaker 3: us to connect to the external consciousness field. It works
Speaker 3: with the micro tubules in the brain with you know,
Speaker 3: Rupert Childrake and kind of their work in the past.
Speaker 3: We're validating a lot of their understanding. And so yeah,
Speaker 3: that's exactly right. And so when this all of this
Speaker 3: started to happen, it just started then rolling because then
Speaker 3: I was able to get other people to have this happened.
Speaker 3: But the information that so when you can, when you
Speaker 3: can do this, every person, most most people to have
Speaker 3: a soul have guides that are specific, that are attached
Speaker 3: to them, and always they're never a That was the
Speaker 3: case for most people. Now we had all some people
Speaker 3: that have more advanced souls that don't have those, they're
Speaker 3: more archetypes. But for most people, you have guides with
Speaker 3: you all the time. And when you do this with
Speaker 3: your eyes open, when you tap in, then they're there
Speaker 3: with you. They're veil. You're you're coupling to a harmonic
Speaker 3: constant that exists. Terrence Howard and I he gets it.
Speaker 3: He got it from a being in his dreams, through
Speaker 3: his advanced geometry. We got it through the quantum h
Speaker 3: equations that we were given by these beings. And so
Speaker 3: you're what you're tuning yourself with the d MT to
Speaker 3: couple with the harmonic constant, and the moment the ruin
Speaker 3: shifts is when you're coupled with it, and that's when
Speaker 3: it's everything. It's all your stuff, just rendered completely different.
Speaker 3: Favorite one was my whole house and everything in it
Speaker 3: looked like a Simpsons carteon, but it was all my
Speaker 3: stuff because there's no boundaries because what you're doing is
Speaker 3: you're coupling with that and you're actually coupling with the fifth.
Speaker 3: So that's why it's so busy. And then why all
Speaker 3: of these beings are in there with five me EO
Speaker 3: d MT. You're coupling to eighth and that's just Source,
Speaker 3: So it's just you and Source. No other beings are
Speaker 3: around in those and so yeah, I mean it's just
Speaker 3: and so that's been this has been going on for
Speaker 3: two years. We're able to do this on demand. You
Speaker 3: can build relationships with them. They know you better than
Speaker 3: you know yourself. They know you from your past lifetimes
Speaker 3: as well, and so you're able to get like the
Speaker 3: one on the guidance from an advanced being, whether it's
Speaker 3: a being, a guardian angel or what. We haven't quite
Speaker 3: figured out what why. The mix is always different, but
Speaker 3: some people have ascended masters, like it's just it's really
Speaker 3: interesting to see who's got what. So we've all this
Speaker 3: group has just kind of naturally found each other. It's
Speaker 3: like the universe has brought us together other people that
Speaker 3: were having similar experiences or learned from TikTok or from
Speaker 3: me teaching it. There they're getting information that directly overlaps
Speaker 3: with all. So like my colleague got the external architecture
Speaker 3: of consciousness itself down to the quantum math and it's
Speaker 3: it's legit. And then another guy we didn't know comes
Speaker 3: in with the internal architecture, and another guy that we
Speaker 3: didn't know comes in with the connective piece, like the
Speaker 3: mechanical engineering part of it. So all three layers and
Speaker 3: it just builds this big picture in a lot of math.
Speaker 1: And so that is you know what. It's it's funny
Speaker 1: that you're mentioning this because recently I have been reading
Speaker 1: these books and I'm curious if you've ever looked into
Speaker 1: the guy who had created these books. His name is
Speaker 1: itzog Bentov, and he was one of the original guys
Speaker 1: that helped put together the gateway process, like the whole
Speaker 1: gateway thing that was going on back in the seventies
Speaker 1: and eighties. They that in that CIA drop, they kept
Speaker 1: on mentioning his name all the time, but they never
Speaker 1: really mentioned too much about him. So I started looking
Speaker 1: a little bit more into him, and turns out like, basically,
Speaker 1: my understanding is that Robert Monroe wouldn't be Robert Monroe
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for this itzog Bentov guy, because its
Speaker 1: ag Bentov was kind of like the scientific foundational like
Speaker 1: center piece that Robert Monroe was able to then build
Speaker 1: off of in describing consciousness almost like scientifically, which is
Speaker 1: so fascinating. So yeah, I would definitely highly recommend checking
Speaker 1: him out. And he only wrote two books. And this
Speaker 1: is where it gets crazy. So this guy wrote two books,
Speaker 1: and so they they they said that the whole Gateway
Speaker 1: process ended in nineteen eighty three, nineteen eighty four or
Speaker 1: something like that. Nobody believes that bullshit anyway, but either way,
Speaker 1: they they claimed that it ended then, and then they
Speaker 1: held onto it for like twenty years until they eventually
Speaker 1: freedom of Information released. But what was interesting is is
Speaker 1: that it's og Bentov was involved. So the year after
Speaker 1: he writes his second book, he's involved in the most
Speaker 1: horrific plane crash in the United States United States History
Speaker 1: in Chicago in like nineteen eighty or nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 1: somewhere in there, and then they go on to release
Speaker 1: a lot of paperwork and nothing. I mean they mentioned
Speaker 1: his name in the in the gateway process, but nothing
Speaker 1: really in depth. So I always thought that that was
Speaker 1: super fascinating. But uh, before we go any furthered Nick,
Speaker 1: you have your hand raised, sir, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I mean obviously it had, you know, I
Speaker 5: mean the whole the guy thing, and everything checks out
Speaker 5: with me. You know, I had a similar revelation, but
Speaker 5: I got there.
Speaker 2: Through four Aco DMG, and about three years ago.
Speaker 5: I basically was able to hear my guides and when
Speaker 5: I recognized like their voices, it's essentially opened my whole
Speaker 5: crown chakra. And that whole thing happened for me when
Speaker 5: I recognized what I was experiencing was real, and they're
Speaker 5: basically told me, now that you understand that this is
Speaker 5: really happening, then the.
Speaker 2: Doorways open now forever.
Speaker 5: And I the way that I've been doing it, I've
Speaker 5: been able to with the four ACO It's like I'm
Speaker 5: able to have one foot in the door and one
Speaker 5: foot out where I can directly communicate with them and
Speaker 5: relay back and forth like a full conversation, like like
Speaker 5: we're having right now.
Speaker 2: And I've got three.
Speaker 5: Almost four years worth of transcripts of conversations with them
Speaker 5: going back and forth. So it would be really interesting
Speaker 5: to like compare notes. I don't have any of the
Speaker 5: mathematical stuff, but I've got tons of the uh I
Speaker 5: guess reality and spirituality of it.
Speaker 2: Just to direct back and forth with them. It would
Speaker 2: be nice to see what overlaps.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely, be happy to do that. And so
Speaker 3: you're you're taking silence.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, alls loosen, Yeah, that's what for echo is. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So when psilocybin converts in the body, it turns
Speaker 3: to silus, and which is an endi menthol trip to mean.
Speaker 3: So it's yeah, So with that, so you're you are
Speaker 3: you are connecting with the same realm, but with the
Speaker 3: Mycenelan network and the way that the spirits of these
Speaker 3: realms work. The mushroom spirits are attaching to that as well,
Speaker 3: so it gives you a more earthy perspective. But you're
Speaker 3: you can we're accessing the same informational fields. The guy
Speaker 3: that got the internal portions of the consciousness math is.
Speaker 3: He got it from Ibogain. He's an expert in that,
Speaker 3: and so we're finding it for some near deat experiences
Speaker 3: d N t ivy gang mushrooms. So we're we're crossing
Speaker 3: dimensions that we have to completely re evaluate how we
Speaker 3: are understanding of psychedelics in general. They are a gateway
Speaker 3: and we have it all figured out.
Speaker 5: For sure, and I've even got as all this has
Speaker 5: been going on, i can ask them to show up
Speaker 5: and they'll show up in the.
Speaker 2: Sky and we can have conversations. I've got tons of
Speaker 2: videos and everything. You hear them all the time, not always,
Speaker 2: but they will come.
Speaker 5: They'll come in and make jokes and like have we'll
Speaker 5: have like little comedic laughs together on their own time.
Speaker 2: But they're they're they're hilarious.
Speaker 3: But I have I have a friend of mine that
Speaker 3: can hear his all the time. And one of his
Speaker 3: guys is her name is Sarai. She's Sarah, which is
Speaker 3: Abraham's wife from the Bible. She's an assented best but
Speaker 3: he'll go to church and she'll give a commentary on
Speaker 3: what they're preaching about, whether it's legit or not. And
Speaker 3: if that really happened or and so he's got a
Speaker 3: commentary all the time, and it's funny and she's got
Speaker 3: a really create sense of humor.
Speaker 5: They just came in the other day actually, right before
Speaker 5: I was going to sleep. And most of the time
Speaker 5: our conversations are like we're like I'm reaching out. Then
Speaker 5: we're having our conversations, and what I do is I
Speaker 5: just record it all, and I just I say it
Speaker 5: all out loud because it's all happening in your head.
Speaker 5: I just repeat what they're saying out loud, and then
Speaker 5: it sounds like I'm talking to myself, but it's obviously not.
Speaker 5: But just for the sake of documenting, and it's easier
Speaker 5: just to record it all and me do all the work.
Speaker 5: But they came in probably about a month ago, and
Speaker 5: they said, hey, we're gonna start coming in on our own.
Speaker 5: You're gonna be able to hear us like all the
Speaker 5: time more regularly, starting like this year. To just be
Speaker 5: ready for that. Actually, so that's that's the last game
Speaker 5: plan they told me. But I can talk to them
Speaker 5: anytime I want to. We'll have afford the dialogues just
Speaker 5: whenever I'm sitting down and meditating and stuff, but they
Speaker 5: said to start coming in unannounced way more often.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the veil is thinging right now because where we're
Speaker 3: at in the civilization's timeline. But so it's gonna get
Speaker 3: easier and easier, and that's why you're also seeing a
Speaker 3: pickup and soonic abilities that are starts to pop up everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's awesome. Yeah, but if you want to reach out
Speaker 3: and get you my email or whatever, and I'm happy
Speaker 3: to compare to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ah god, I love this. And it seems like
Speaker 1: this year, for some reason, people have been saying it.
Speaker 1: Of course, it was really kicked off a lot of people,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of became privy to a lot of
Speaker 1: this because of Chris Bloodsoe and all of his experiences
Speaker 1: and his I don't think he calls it prophecies, but
Speaker 1: a lot of people are calling it prophecies. And there's
Speaker 1: some confusion as to whether it's going to be Easter
Speaker 1: or if it's going to be September or October or
Speaker 1: something like that. But I'm like, hey, I'm just happy
Speaker 1: it's we're in the year for it.
Speaker 3: You know. Well, what's the crazy thing is what's happening
Speaker 3: to us is directly related to what's happening with Chris
Speaker 3: and so it is this fall based off our understanding,
Speaker 3: and so I think he's about to get some blowback
Speaker 3: because Easter is here and a lot of people haven't
Speaker 3: gotten that memo. But he's talked about it recently on
Speaker 3: a couple of podcasts. But we're getting fall as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean this is wild, like this is I mean
Speaker 3: to years ago, this was on my five year plan
Speaker 3: at all. I wasn't spiritual at all. My wife had
Speaker 3: gone through yoga teacher training, I had engaged and some
Speaker 3: of it just just be supportive. I thought chockers were bullshit.
Speaker 3: I thought astrology was absolutely trash, and come to find out,
Speaker 3: the hippies had all the right answers. So yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's fascinating, but I'll tell you this, it has been.
Speaker 3: It's did you ever see the movie Phenomenon with John
Speaker 3: Travolta back in the day.
Speaker 1: I have to. I have to see the movie poster.
Speaker 1: I may have seen it, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: So he's a small town has a UAP encounter kind
Speaker 3: of zapp see, and then he just starts being able
Speaker 3: to digest information and extreme rates, helping all sorts of
Speaker 3: people but it's kind of what it's felt like is
Speaker 3: once this, once that moment happened, it first felt like
Speaker 3: we were able to just absorb so much more information
Speaker 3: than normal as we've as this is a vault often
Speaker 3: the way we understand that reinc our nation is real
Speaker 3: and the past lives are a real thing, and that
Speaker 3: there's a mechanism this reality that keeps us from being
Speaker 3: able to remember that. But once you actually start remembering it,
Speaker 3: it's you start being able to access the informational fields
Speaker 3: from previous lifetimes. So we're we're just coming up to
Speaker 3: speed so much faster because we've dealt with this over
Speaker 3: and over and over again. It's almost like we've been
Speaker 3: previously preparing for this time.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think the reason for
Speaker 1: the preparation and the training for this very moment is anyway,
Speaker 1: Like I know a lot of people would say that
Speaker 1: this is a maybe this is a simulation or it's
Speaker 1: a matrix, but it seems like a lot of this
Speaker 1: It may be happening inside of time as far as
Speaker 1: we can see it, because we're a part of the
Speaker 1: time dimension, But is there something happening on a grander
Speaker 1: scale that is outside of the time outside of the
Speaker 1: time dimension that maybe it's kind of like as above,
Speaker 1: so below trickling down to us, like what do you
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on.
Speaker 3: That's that's a lot to be able to answer that.
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to even personally understand that everything's
Speaker 3: happening everywhere all at once, and that all I don't.
Speaker 3: I have trouble wrapping my head around that and being
Speaker 3: able to explain that. So I still think of it
Speaker 3: as linear. Everything's happening now just because we're at the
Speaker 3: end of this cycle and so you're starting to see
Speaker 3: all of these mechanisms to prepare for that cycle shift
Speaker 3: and transition. It's you had thought it would just have
Speaker 3: happened and then we figure it out. But the way
Speaker 3: it's unfolded is that certain people are here to help
Speaker 3: transition that and it just happens to be one. So
Speaker 3: when that event happened in July, for the like six
Speaker 3: weeks after that, I would go outside, I would tap in,
Speaker 3: and I have And that's still the case today. I
Speaker 3: have twenty twenty vision on DMT now, like nothing changes
Speaker 3: except exactly what I'm supposed to see, which is really
Speaker 3: weird and it's actually not very fun because everybody has
Speaker 3: all these really fun experiences in my very work mode.
Speaker 3: And so I would go outside, though, and I'd look
Speaker 3: up at the stars and I started seeing flashing lights
Speaker 3: around certain stars. I didn't know what any of them were.
Speaker 3: I just start watching, is not something I really paid?
Speaker 3: Did we do it all the time now? And so
Speaker 3: I then got one of the apps to be able
Speaker 3: to track the celestial movements, and then I was realizing
Speaker 3: it was happening on the same stars. Okay, So I
Speaker 3: started writing all those down, taking notes, and then just
Speaker 3: after a couple of weeks, like, all right, what do
Speaker 3: all of these have in common? So I just plug
Speaker 3: them all in and they're like, oh, these are known
Speaker 3: star seed racists. I was like, what. The only time
Speaker 3: I'd ever heard of a star seed was for the
Speaker 3: Gnar ladyp song from the nineties. Didn't know what any
Speaker 3: of them that was. But that's turned out like it's
Speaker 3: the craziest scenario ever, but it's legit. So just as
Speaker 3: we've seen between thirty and forty craft last summer, we
Speaker 3: got coordinates in a time of day to be somewhere
Speaker 3: and we didn't know where it was, so we plug
Speaker 3: it in. It's out Mount Shasta. Never been there, none
Speaker 3: of us had ever been there, and so in October
Speaker 3: we went. Everything else have been proven out, the math
Speaker 3: works perfectly. Everything has been nothing but love and just
Speaker 3: this has been a positive thing. We're not scared of anything.
Speaker 3: So we went and my dad went with us just
Speaker 3: to sandity check the situation because he'd been working with
Speaker 3: the Math going through his own awakening because of what's
Speaker 3: been happening to us. But he'd never had seen anything
Speaker 3: in person, and so didn't really know what to expect.
Speaker 3: So we go out there and we get there. We
Speaker 3: get to that location on the mountain. It's not a
Speaker 3: known place, and then there is a distorted visual field
Speaker 3: in front of us that's about six feet tall, and
Speaker 3: it's like wavy lines of heat coming off of roadways,
Speaker 3: kind of what looked like in the desert, and so
Speaker 3: we're all just to stand there. We kind of in
Speaker 3: guided on in order to go in, and so we
Speaker 3: go through it and then another one pops up. So
Speaker 3: we just keep walking along this path. I was like
Speaker 3: leading us somewhere, and then we walk into a big
Speaker 3: one and one of the people in our group actually
Speaker 3: takes a log and hits it up against a tree
Speaker 3: and it causes the visual field in that area to
Speaker 3: move faster, So it was more obvious, but you got
Speaker 3: the intention. You're supposed to state your name and why
Speaker 3: you're there and then walk through. And as soon as
Speaker 3: you walk through, it was DMT visuals all over the place.
Speaker 3: Because DMT is not a psychedelic it is a dimensional gateway.
Speaker 3: We walked through a dimensional threshold and so there are
Speaker 3: twelve all beings there to guide us and meet us.
Speaker 3: And they were showing us where all the Lumerian temples
Speaker 3: and stuff used to be. On the side of the mountain.
Speaker 3: There was healings that were done, like my dad. My
Speaker 3: dad broke his toe the day we were going out there.
Speaker 3: He shadowed his middle toe on the shower glass. It's
Speaker 3: just tough and through it. He's been on pain. He's
Speaker 3: at both of these replaced paint patches, pain pills entirely
Speaker 3: for years after that, Like he's got no pain at all. No,
Speaker 3: he's walking down the mountain faster than all of us,
Speaker 3: and we're asking down He's like, dude, I'm good. And
Speaker 3: the only places he hurts now is the places where
Speaker 3: he was laying down on his back because they didn't reap,
Speaker 3: they didn't touch that part, and he's completely off all
Speaker 3: pain meds and pain patches. Like it just happened for
Speaker 3: all of us. And so we had another location we
Speaker 3: went to the next day and we get there Exept.
Speaker 3: Four point thirty in the morning on the side of
Speaker 3: a volcano. Another not known location we show up in.
Speaker 3: So we got in a circle. We didn't really know
Speaker 3: what to do. My wife's holding my hand. She said,
Speaker 3: her throat choker starts buzzing, and so she starts talking
Speaker 3: and she it's like she's saying of prayers. If you
Speaker 3: ask her today, she can't She wouldn't even write after
Speaker 3: She couldn't remember what she said because it didn't feel
Speaker 3: like it was coming from her. But at one point
Speaker 3: she says, we don't keep her eyes on the ground.
Speaker 3: We keep them above where they belong. And we all
Speaker 3: look up the same time, and there's two hundred feet over.
Speaker 3: It's a streak of light that just comes right over
Speaker 3: the top of us. And as soon as that happened,
Speaker 3: you could see the orbs of light in the woods.
Speaker 3: There's hundreds of them, and so the ones that had
Speaker 3: DMT then tapped in you could see all of the beings,
Speaker 3: and there were hundreds around us, the ones that didn't
Speaker 3: just sell the orbs.
Speaker 1: But when you say hundreds of beings, can you describe,
Speaker 1: like maybe a little bit more detail, what the beings
Speaker 1: maybe look like or what they are? I mean, is
Speaker 1: it the same kind of thing that others have talked
Speaker 1: about what the mantis is and the cat people were
Speaker 1: Pleiadians or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so these were the lyrons. So these would be
Speaker 3: the cat and lion people. They're twelve feet tall. They're enormous.
Speaker 3: And then oddly enough, Osiris and Thought were over on
Speaker 3: the treeline watching. We deal with Thought a lot. He's
Speaker 3: a manifestation of Markangel Michael, so is Arimie stristmcguess, and
Speaker 3: so is Cosaquaddle. But we deal with Michael a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, So you're oh, I'm here. That's what
Speaker 1: we're here tonight for. Maybe this is the weird show. Maybe,
Speaker 1: So all right, I love everything that you just said,
Speaker 1: but we got to go back here for a second.
Speaker 1: I find it so fascinating that you guys were led
Speaker 1: to Mount Shasta. Now I've looked a great deal into
Speaker 1: Mount Shasta, and one of the craziest things that I
Speaker 1: recently heard about Mount Mount Shasta is that supposedly there
Speaker 1: are people that you know, there's a lot of remote
Speaker 1: viewers out there, a lot of Astra projectors and a
Speaker 1: lot of remote viewers, and allegedly the whenever people try
Speaker 1: and remote view Mount Shasta, there's like it's like guarded,
Speaker 1: like within the remote view they're guarded and supposedly it's
Speaker 1: like a big no, no, you don't do that.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know who it's guarded by. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's human, I don't know if it's other, but
Speaker 1: it seems like whatever. It's almost like they're aware that
Speaker 1: people try to remote view it, and there are there's
Speaker 1: almost like spankings to be handed out if you remote
Speaker 1: view that area.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like energetic boundaries that you're not allowed to cross.
Speaker 3: There's some wild stuff that happens there. Man, Like there
Speaker 3: are twenty seven portals that we're aware of, and just
Speaker 3: the I mean, the amount of spiritual and bizarre stuff
Speaker 3: that happens out there. I really just think it depends
Speaker 3: on who you are and what your intent is. We've
Speaker 3: so we've been able to do we've been able to
Speaker 3: navigate and we can completely control our DMT experience, so
Speaker 3: we can do group DMPT travel from different states. We
Speaker 3: just using sacred geometry and carrier waves and just knowing
Speaker 3: how to do it. We put ourselves in a container.
Speaker 3: We all go wherever we want. Like if you there
Speaker 3: are some places like that, that the other those beings
Speaker 3: that are actually living there and other dimensions, well don't
Speaker 3: want you to mess with there's You run into the
Speaker 3: same stuff on government sites. If you were remote view
Speaker 3: and ass you'll run into their guardians. And you're always
Speaker 3: surprising when they when you come in there because they
Speaker 3: don't see many people, but there are people. They are
Speaker 3: just hanging out. Oh, just locked in.
Speaker 1: God, this is the this is like. And I trust
Speaker 1: that you're telling the truth that you don't seem like
Speaker 1: a bullshit or to me, but this is the craziest
Speaker 1: thing I've ever heard. And I'm all the way here
Speaker 1: for it. I am almost like, please tell me the
Speaker 1: next time you're going. I have sworn off psychedelics for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, but I will make an exception if
Speaker 1: this trip can happen all the way.
Speaker 3: Well, we will submit to a polygraph at any point
Speaker 3: in time there's zero bullshit in anything that I say,
Speaker 3: as crazy as it is. And so yeah, now we're
Speaker 3: talking about doing some retreats coming up. Yeah, it just
Speaker 3: really just depends. So that that really solidified our core
Speaker 3: group when we got were when they're in the Hortal,
Speaker 3: they had said that everything up to that moment was
Speaker 3: a prerequisite for then and the everything would shift after that.
Speaker 3: And when that when we all left, it was so
Speaker 3: much information about get a ton of Egyptian information because
Speaker 3: of what's happening with the bloodsoit thing and just starting
Speaker 3: to understand it. And it feels like we've been kind
Speaker 3: of in a holding pattern, like we can see six
Speaker 3: months from now, but like whatever what's right in front
Speaker 3: of us, there seems to be a block in front
Speaker 3: of it. I think we're just we're waiting on some
Speaker 3: major events that happen and then I don't unfold more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like that would be the case. That
Speaker 1: almost like because I know usually we've talked to a
Speaker 1: lot of psychics and magicians and witches and people who
Speaker 1: are real like intuitive in a sense, right, and what
Speaker 1: they'll say is is that you know, the it's a
Speaker 1: lot easier to read the past than it is the future.
Speaker 1: The future is kind of based upon your vibration and
Speaker 1: where you're on track to be going in the future.
Speaker 1: But if there's going to be some kind of unforeseen
Speaker 1: event to happen within the near future, then you almost
Speaker 1: can't have a direct branch coming off of that event
Speaker 1: because you don't know exactly how the people are going
Speaker 1: to react to it, and it could be it could
Speaker 1: cause multiple branches, like you know, Loki style. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so uh, Nick, go right ahead.
Speaker 5: Sir, Yeah, I mean that that checks out. Both my
Speaker 5: guys and told me too. They are they basically alluded
Speaker 5: to the fact that there's gonna be some sort of event.
Speaker 5: Everyone's going to be aware of it, but they won't
Speaker 5: say what or when specifically, and that there will be
Speaker 5: more information for those who are more involved that will
Speaker 5: understand when the time comes, and every a lot, a
Speaker 5: lot of things will begin to make sense for a
Speaker 5: lot of people. But they they're like, we can't say
Speaker 5: any specifics, but it's inevitable it will be happening.
Speaker 3: You're like, you're like us, we ask every question imaginable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they'll tell you everything that they can and
Speaker 5: always answer.
Speaker 2: But well, I can't go that far.
Speaker 3: So what's fascinating is there some people that have more
Speaker 3: information than others in our group, and when they when
Speaker 3: they try to say it when they're not supposed to,
Speaker 3: they physically can't make the words yeah, their tongue stops working.
Speaker 3: I've watched this in multiple people. It's fascinating.
Speaker 5: I've had that too, where I was trying, like I
Speaker 5: have a weird thing sometimes whenever I'm tapped in uh
Speaker 5: where my vocal range will change, like it's like I
Speaker 5: get a whole other chord.
Speaker 2: And like I had something happened to where I.
Speaker 5: Couldn't say the I literally physically could not say the
Speaker 5: word whisper. I would, I would, I could talk every
Speaker 5: word because like I was speaking with power.
Speaker 2: I guess if that makes sense. It was like a
Speaker 2: powerful voice.
Speaker 5: And they were like it, if you can't speak with power,
Speaker 5: you can't speak at all.
Speaker 2: It must have meaning essentially, And whenever I was.
Speaker 5: Like I tried to say that I can't whisper, and
Speaker 5: I could say I can't, and I literally couldn't even
Speaker 5: say the word whisper.
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 5: My mouth would move, but the word whisper couldn't even
Speaker 5: be uttered.
Speaker 2: If that makes sense. It was like blocked off.
Speaker 5: But but I had one other question about whenever you're
Speaker 5: saying that people would get tapped in to like lower
Speaker 5: the BIL a little and they'd be able to see
Speaker 5: all the beings are y'all, I'm assuming that probably the
Speaker 5: d MT carts are the most effective way to like
Speaker 5: just get enough to open the bil.
Speaker 2: Is that what y'all are probably doing or what?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we call it the working level, and the
Speaker 3: cart allows us to maintain that level for a longer
Speaker 3: periods of time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so just below breakthrough just enough to get the
Speaker 5: get the lembs on.
Speaker 3: I need to be able to stand and walk around
Speaker 3: and function like, yeah, well you're with DNT, you're really cohering.
Speaker 3: You don't have the body load that you have with
Speaker 3: mushrooms or anything like that, and so it's just getting
Speaker 3: used to it, like at this point. So if actually,
Speaker 3: if you if you do DMT and Gopher run and
Speaker 3: opens up what they call the Warrior realm, which is
Speaker 3: a different level, which is a totally different experience, which
Speaker 3: is kind of wild. But yeah, man, it's we're trying
Speaker 3: to we're trying to maintain that. And there's something else
Speaker 3: that we found a person in our group has learned
Speaker 3: been doing this for a long time. She learned how
Speaker 3: to train people how to use it, to develop a
Speaker 3: coherence with it. And so typically do you hear, you know,
Speaker 3: take three big hits and or once you know you're there,
Speaker 3: take one more puff. We're getting there in five to
Speaker 3: seven seconds of a pool, and that's it, and we're
Speaker 3: able to stay in for thirty to forty minutes because
Speaker 3: we've developed a coherence with it. When you starts, almost
Speaker 3: like it integrates with you, and then we've there's I
Speaker 3: don't have any medical history to back this up. It
Speaker 3: almost feels like your pineal land has expanded and maybe
Speaker 3: you're producing more indigenously, if I had to guess, that's
Speaker 3: what's really causing it.
Speaker 1: Like you're getting it on the right track and almost
Speaker 1: syncing it up together.
Speaker 3: And so the moment you get your three, five or
Speaker 3: seven second pool, then depending on how deep you want
Speaker 3: to go, what you're trying to there's some different breathwork
Speaker 3: beforehand can lock you into different sequences in different experiences.
Speaker 3: Different sacred geometry being used as a part of your
Speaker 3: marcava can also keep noise out and do protection and
Speaker 3: do all of these things, so we've can completely understand
Speaker 3: how to just navigate like a pilot instead of just
Speaker 3: going for a ride.
Speaker 5: And you're one of the only other people too that
Speaker 5: I've heard that I noticed something with myself is like
Speaker 5: after I kind of unlocked the understanding, I guess the
Speaker 5: only way I could put it is that whenever I
Speaker 5: would take the four aco, which I've one DNT and
Speaker 5: so you know a bunch as well, but I stopped
Speaker 5: getting the typical visuals that I would just like the
Speaker 5: trippy psychedelic visuals. It was just it was like a
Speaker 5: super expanded awareness and state of being without the moving
Speaker 5: everything moving, and you know, pretty colors and all kinds
Speaker 5: of things like that. Even at the higher noses, I
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, well that's totally gone because I don't
Speaker 5: need that anymore.
Speaker 2: And now it's just a direct line to like what
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do.
Speaker 3: It's almost like a filter that they put on there
Speaker 3: that psychedelic and trippy until you do the work to figure.
Speaker 2: Out that it's yes, yes, yes, that's great. You're the
Speaker 2: only one that I've ever ever heard mentioned that that
Speaker 2: I noticed.
Speaker 4: On my own.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's wild, And then once you once
Speaker 3: you get past that point, then there's no going well,
Speaker 3: I say, there's no going back. We've had a couple
Speaker 3: of people that have exhausted what they're going to learn
Speaker 3: with the MT, and so they kind of release them
Speaker 3: from that and they can go back to having fun
Speaker 3: with it. It's almost it's like a mode that you're
Speaker 3: in and so keep exploring it. It may stop at
Speaker 3: some point and you go back to the other the
Speaker 3: other like the more traditional experience. But for the for
Speaker 3: some of the people in our group, they went from DMT.
Speaker 3: Now they're doing the same thing with mushrooms and just
Speaker 3: they're going to master that and they and so and
Speaker 3: then there's there's different plant medicines that if you do
Speaker 3: have specific orders like Shawman's know this that if you
Speaker 3: if you do have specific orders, they have a synergy
Speaker 3: and they kind of build upon each other and then
Speaker 3: it unlocks different things. Like my colleague that's had the
Speaker 3: near death experiences, we've made there's seven of them that
Speaker 3: gave us. We had to figure out the combination. We've
Speaker 3: made it through five and now he can see Wi
Speaker 3: Fi signals and then everywhere he goes he sees everybody's
Speaker 3: being so if he goes we all go to lunch,
Speaker 3: he's everybody in the restaurant he sees, all.
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, it really seems like it's unlocking a lot now.
Speaker 1: I mean me personally, I've I've done d MT twice
Speaker 1: in one night, but a lot. Like Nick was saying
Speaker 1: with the four A c O d MT, that's the
Speaker 1: majority of my experiences, they've been super wide ranging. Like
Speaker 1: and some people talk about seeing you know, other other
Speaker 1: aliens or other individuals or anything like that. I've only
Speaker 1: ever experienced like a cat being, which was quite nice,
Speaker 1: but any like outside of that, it was like, I'm
Speaker 1: seeing like the good ones. Anyway, have you have you
Speaker 1: dealt with nightmare trips on d MT, Because I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie, that's kind of what's making me want to
Speaker 1: drag my feet on going back into that realm.
Speaker 3: I personally have not had anything you would consider a
Speaker 3: bad trip with DMT. Well, partially because of the way
Speaker 3: it's structured, so eyes open, you're pretty much in ConTroll
Speaker 3: of the experience. You're just your environment shifts, and then
Speaker 3: you're you're if you're kind of at the level that
Speaker 3: we're at, you're going to see your guides or they'll
Speaker 3: be the big beings that show up or might and
Speaker 3: they might not. But with closed eyes closed, there's no boundaries,
Speaker 3: and so you're you're still in a protected environment. There's
Speaker 3: they still have things that they have to operate within.
Speaker 3: But when we look at bad trips, we've got to
Speaker 3: reframe how we look at it. Almost every time I've
Speaker 3: talk to somebody who's getting through a bad LSD or
Speaker 3: the mushroom trip, at the end of it, it was
Speaker 3: awful for them to go through, but when you know
Speaker 3: how to navigate and lean into it, it's something that
Speaker 3: they needed. And so we staw calling them bad trips.
Speaker 3: Just some trips are more challenging than others, but they're
Speaker 3: all they all have value.
Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent agree. Yeah, I mean I've learned
Speaker 1: the most off of the so called bad ones. I
Speaker 1: don't I personally don't like to call them bad ones either,
Speaker 1: because of all the benefits and all the integration. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're going to integrate, in my experience, the bad trips
Speaker 1: way more than you're going to integrate the good trips,
Speaker 1: because that's when you really learned the most about yourself.
Speaker 3: I kind of jar is your soul of choice. It's
Speaker 3: not you're forced to come to face to face with
Speaker 3: something versus just an experience that you can write off.
Speaker 3: It's a good time, it's it's it's not as easy
Speaker 3: to just disregard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I want to get over to
Speaker 1: the chat here just for a second, so everybody is
Speaker 1: caught up here. White Boy Wizard said, good evening you
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Speaker 1: beaches as an Aquarius. Let's go. White Boy Wizard said,
Speaker 1: I need to go with you. Jonathan Hey fingers crossed man.
Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes. But Nora the Explorer said,
Speaker 1: missed you, trippy lovely people. Hope everybody is doing better.
Speaker 1: Nice to see you here, Nora. It's been a minute.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, this is such a fascinating conversation. I'm
Speaker 1: all the way here for it. The very first video
Speaker 1: that I saw you post, I was hooked line and
Speaker 1: seer all the way in because I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: somebody that doesn't like to just write off these experiences,
Speaker 1: especially the more you learn about subjective experiences. And you know,
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of research on and actually The
Speaker 1: White Boy Wizard did an episode with me the other
Speaker 1: day on the difference between objective experience and subjective experience.
Speaker 1: And whenever you break it really all the way down,
Speaker 1: there's no such thing really as an objective experience. It's
Speaker 1: more or less a shared subjective experience. But that's probably
Speaker 1: the closest you can get just as far as interpersonal experiences.
Speaker 1: You know, like whenever you grow up, maybe you have
Speaker 1: a brother and a sister, but you all turn out
Speaker 1: very differently, even though you were raised in the same household,
Speaker 1: you had the same disciplines and you ate all the
Speaker 1: same food and all that kind of stuff. But for
Speaker 1: some reason, each individual is experiencing that life and the
Speaker 1: memory of your childhood or whatever it is very differently.
Speaker 1: And so whenever I start thinking about that, then we
Speaker 1: had our favorite psychic on the show, Cassandra van zandt
Speaker 1: shout Out. She told us she goes, look, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if you had a dream or a psychedelic experience
Speaker 1: or a meditational experience. She goes, don't write any of
Speaker 1: them off. They are all experiences that is part of you.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: So I know that a lot of people will write
Speaker 1: off off their psychedelic experiences and just say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: that's just you know, it's just a fun thing that
Speaker 1: happened within my mind. You know, it's just my mind.
Speaker 1: It's not real, you know. It's people will will take
Speaker 1: mushrooms or whatever and they'll see like gears or you know,
Speaker 1: Danny Gohler seeing the different coding and everything, and it's like, man,
Speaker 1: I think that there's so much more to it, and
Speaker 1: just to write it off is crazy to me. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm all the way here for this conversation because
Speaker 1: I fully believe I think that it's it's up to
Speaker 1: the interpreter maybe, but I don't know. I'm still trying
Speaker 1: to learn.
Speaker 3: I would disagree with that. So what we're seeing is
Speaker 3: different keys than the same door. And so I didn't
Speaker 3: realize it wasn't spiritual at all. I was interested in
Speaker 3: ESP because I thought it was fascinating as a kid,
Speaker 3: but sonic abilities, like, I didn't understand how all of
Speaker 3: this was connected. Now we know what's highly connected and
Speaker 3: so you're whether you're doing ASH projection or set to
Speaker 3: scene could whatever you doing, you're it's just another way
Speaker 3: of accessing the same type of realm now there. Each
Speaker 3: each method has its own sandbox constraints. Ash projection, you're
Speaker 3: you deal with the distortions that are on this reality,
Speaker 3: the arc getting into argons and some bigger concepts there.
Speaker 3: But you start, you can feel it. And so with
Speaker 3: what we're doing, it's it's naturally in this molecular structure
Speaker 3: in every living thing. So that's that's primarily why we
Speaker 3: prefer an udimical trips. Mean, we're using what our bodies
Speaker 3: used to already, it knows how to break it down.
Speaker 3: That's why it doesn't last very long. And so we've
Speaker 3: we're forcing coherence with this. And then it's if you're
Speaker 3: tuning your frequency to the harmonic constant, just be the
Speaker 3: things that you can do with it. We we even
Speaker 3: we went on a group group actional travel not that
Speaker 3: long ago, all in different states. I am like, some
Speaker 3: people with sinn acabilities are really powerful. We have one, yeah,
Speaker 3: group that's just wildly powerful. And so I'm having a
Speaker 3: normal DMT experience. They're all experiencing the same thing. They
Speaker 3: can all see each other, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: just having normal DMT stuff, things like hold on, I
Speaker 3: see you. And then from Texas he completely changes my
Speaker 3: DMT trip and brings me back back to where they are.
Speaker 3: He's not on DMT.
Speaker 1: What Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm starting to look at this like,
Speaker 1: all right, I know that people get get hung up
Speaker 1: on terms like matrix and simulation, and maybe that's just
Speaker 1: the closest we can do to describe this the nature
Speaker 1: of this reality. But for sure there are dimensions to this, right,
Speaker 1: Like I think we can all agree that we have
Speaker 1: access to very little of the light paradigm, we have
Speaker 1: access to very little of the sound paradigm, and all
Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff, right, And of course, you know,
Speaker 1: we're made of atoms which are ninety nine point nine
Speaker 1: nine nine percent empty. So therefore, and of course we
Speaker 1: have the the oh fuck, what is it called the
Speaker 1: default mode network, which is essentially the filter that allows
Speaker 1: us to see physical reality, even though it's not necessarily physical,
Speaker 1: it's just the filter that's almost portraying that in a sense.
Speaker 1: So I'm of the belief now that what we're seeing,
Speaker 1: you know, just in straight sober life is part of
Speaker 1: what may be considered real. It's just not the entire story.
Speaker 1: But whenever you're almost you know, in a trance state
Speaker 1: or in a psychedelic state or something like that, it
Speaker 1: allows you access to higher levels of dimensions and higher
Speaker 1: access to higher awareness of these things that may be
Speaker 1: around you. And maybe that's exactly what DMT is doing.
Speaker 1: It's that do you believe that all of these things
Speaker 1: that are in the DMT realm are always here all
Speaker 1: the time, and it's only whenever we smoke DMT that
Speaker 1: we have access to be able to see them and
Speaker 1: communicate with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we call their called dimensions, but it's easier
Speaker 3: to understand them as densities. And they're nested on top
Speaker 3: of us. And so fourth is where that's what mediums
Speaker 3: are tapping into. That is where you'll see spirits and
Speaker 3: goes fifth through seventh. They tend to have the ability
Speaker 3: to go from fifth through seventh. That's going to be
Speaker 3: the DMT space. Eighth, like we talked about, is just
Speaker 3: source above that it gets a little tricky. You can
Speaker 3: ast for travel and navigate through those. I think after
Speaker 3: twelve it just starts to be nothing. You can go
Speaker 3: beyond that. There's nothing there. But yeah, so basically the
Speaker 3: imagine just their fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh are all
Speaker 3: nested right on top of us. And whatever you're tuned to,
Speaker 3: whatever density you're teened to, is what you can experience.
Speaker 3: And each density has different boundaries and constraints into it,
Speaker 3: and we're in one of the worst ones in third.
Speaker 3: And so this is designed this way. It operates like
Speaker 3: a video game. Is this is a simulation created by
Speaker 3: God source. We get into the gnostic texts, the monab,
Speaker 3: the Pleroma, the demeers, those are all valid and so
Speaker 3: we're just we're experiencing that. But the way I like
Speaker 3: to explain it of how how this works is it's
Speaker 3: like Grand Theft Auto, except your soul is the one
Speaker 3: with the controller and you're the avatar. And so you
Speaker 3: have major milestones that you signed up to experience before
Speaker 3: you were ever born as a part of your soul
Speaker 3: contract that you're going to experience, and it may it
Speaker 3: may manifest in different ways, but the learning lesson is
Speaker 3: always going to be the same. But you have those
Speaker 3: main milestones that you're going to have to face or
Speaker 3: complete or experience, but you have the free will to
Speaker 3: kind of go off on the map and then go
Speaker 3: do whatever you want, go screw everything up, you get arrested,
Speaker 3: do all those things. It's just like the game. Or
Speaker 3: you could do word versions things, which you should. That's
Speaker 3: I think that's the easiest way for people to understand it.
Speaker 3: And then everything's rendered like a video game. So you
Speaker 3: get into the well slight experiment, and that's understanding how
Speaker 3: all that works. It all starts to makes sense. Zoom out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is a good example, you know, just
Speaker 1: out of curiosity, And I don't know what your experience
Speaker 1: is with this, but do you think that there are
Speaker 1: temptations on the higher densities that are trying to pull
Speaker 1: you back down into the third density? Or is that
Speaker 1: kind of a third dimensional kind of situation that is
Speaker 1: trying to keep us down? Like what do you think
Speaker 1: do temptations exist on all levels or is it just
Speaker 1: here to keep us lower?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm the answer is yes, But to the
Speaker 3: depth that I can answer that, I'm not quite sure
Speaker 3: because we're I'm confused by a couple of things we've experienced.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 3: We've got most of the beings that we deal with,
Speaker 3: our interdimensional beings which all inn hi and A and
Speaker 3: the ends if you want to call them, that would
Speaker 3: be angels, interdimensional beans, all indivision. They're more advanced. They
Speaker 3: know how consciousness works. They understand how to build stuff within.
Speaker 3: That's why the technology is way more advanced than ours. Uh.
Speaker 3: We have we have one instance where this being shows
Speaker 3: up one of the few times you shut up in
Speaker 3: a craft. Uh, a female with him, and she was flirty,
Speaker 3: uh like inappropriate with one of the people in our group,
Speaker 3: to the point that it was uncomfortable. But we're all
Speaker 3: just kind of like, we're what do you do? Like,
Speaker 3: how do you respond? Did you respond? Like? Are you
Speaker 3: get in trouble if you do that? I have no clue,
Speaker 3: But there are I mean there are there are some
Speaker 3: weird things.
Speaker 1: No, that's so funny that that had. I had a
Speaker 1: very similar experience and I'm not going to go in
Speaker 1: the whole story, but the cat like being that I
Speaker 1: experienced while on psychedelics, man, it was rather tempting just
Speaker 1: to keep it light, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, all right, Like I and I
Speaker 1: almost like was judging myself. I was like, dude, keep
Speaker 1: it in your fucking pants. What are you doing? This
Speaker 1: is an inner dimensional god that you're dealing with and
Speaker 1: for some reason, you know, it's just really strange. What
Speaker 1: do you do about that?
Speaker 3: Well, some of you've known for lifetimes, like so we're
Speaker 3: talking about Saraya earlier, Like we've had a few lifetimes
Speaker 3: in the past that she's been a part of, and
Speaker 3: so there's history there that you aren't aware of. It's
Speaker 3: just kind of interesting to see how it unfolds. But
Speaker 3: just that any of that is real, it's I still
Speaker 3: struggle with just accepting it. I'm so used to so
Speaker 3: much weird stuff on a data basis, Like I live
Speaker 3: in a perpetual state of astonishment, but I I find
Speaker 3: myself a lot of times just mind blowing that some
Speaker 3: words that I know and my soul are true just
Speaker 3: came out of my mouth, Like it's.
Speaker 1: Just dude, it's a it's a weird world that we're
Speaker 1: living in. It's definitely not the same world that we
Speaker 1: thought it was just a few short years ago. There's
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And I think anybody that is
Speaker 1: kind of keeping a tally of all of those strange
Speaker 1: syncret strange thinking synchronicities that happen on a daily basis
Speaker 1: in your life. You think about it, if if you
Speaker 1: have infinite possibilities of anything that could happen to you
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, the odds of you seeing synchronicities regularly,
Speaker 1: almost by the hour, should not happen mathematically, right, Like
Speaker 1: that seems like forget unlikely, It seems impossible, But they
Speaker 1: do happen. So this reality is one hundred percent not
Speaker 1: what we thought it was.
Speaker 3: Well, once you start, once you do understand how it works,
Speaker 3: Like so Michael gave us ended up being like one
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty eight pages. It's basically a Star City
Speaker 3: to handbook how to navigate this reality, like one hundred
Speaker 3: universal laws and like how to balance light and dark.
Speaker 3: And it's but once you start implementing that stuff in
Speaker 3: your life and understanding how all this stuff works together,
Speaker 3: and you could you really it's like watching a movie
Speaker 3: and fold anything that bad that happens to you. You
Speaker 3: you approach everything differently because you understand it's a learning lesson.
Speaker 3: You start taking the emotion out of it, and then
Speaker 3: the fear starts to go away, and then you're I
Speaker 3: think that's what they're most scared of. With all of
Speaker 3: the people waking up. The powers that be that don't
Speaker 3: want this to happen is because once you get to
Speaker 3: that point, there is no fear, like I can't be controlled.
Speaker 3: I know too much and so there's nothing you can
Speaker 3: threaten me with either, because I know this is just
Speaker 3: an experience.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what you hear too. I mean literally
Speaker 1: all of the all of the religious books and everything,
Speaker 1: it's always fear not, do not fear. It's almost like,
Speaker 1: you know, what was the president that said, you know,
Speaker 1: the only thing to fear is fear itself. And it's like, man,
Speaker 1: fear really is its own vibration, and you almost have
Speaker 1: the choice on whether to allow fear into your body
Speaker 1: as a vibration and allow it to take over essentially
Speaker 1: your entire reality for a short time, or you can say, no,
Speaker 1: I understand that it's kind of just like a vibration.
Speaker 1: I don't need to accept that in my body. And
Speaker 1: it's so strange whenever you almost whenever you put it
Speaker 1: into like into real life, into existence and you start
Speaker 1: to apply that because it was just last year, I
Speaker 1: went to the mall. It was right before Christmas, and
Speaker 1: I went to the mall and I went to go
Speaker 1: pick up a present for my one of my buddies,
Speaker 1: and there was a shooting in the mall right, and
Speaker 1: everybody's running around like their hair is on fire. It
Speaker 1: is the craziest thing. I mean, you got people that
Speaker 1: are balled up in corners, They're calling their loved ones,
Speaker 1: They're crying their eyes out, and they truly believe that
Speaker 1: this is their final moments alive on this earth. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I could see I could be
Speaker 1: in fear, you know, I really could.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I have a lot to lose. You know,
Speaker 1: I got family, I got kids, I got loved ones.
Speaker 1: I love this show. I love all the conversations we
Speaker 1: have and everything right. But for some reason, in that moment,
Speaker 1: like a strange sense of calm and peace came over
Speaker 1: me and just almost accepted that, like, yo, what's kind
Speaker 1: of happened is going to happen. Whether I cry or
Speaker 1: come into fear or any of that is not going
Speaker 1: to change the outcome of this reality, you know. And
Speaker 1: it was just strange to either accept the fear or
Speaker 1: not accept the fear, because most people probably don't even
Speaker 1: know that they have a choice it's.
Speaker 3: Crazy and you're you're have an elevated awareness to be
Speaker 3: able to understand that. But like when people deal with
Speaker 3: have dealt with traumas and all sorts of things, those
Speaker 3: cause soul fragmentation and they affect your your coherence, and
Speaker 3: so it's not always just cut and dry making a choice,
Speaker 3: because when there are traumas and there are things that
Speaker 3: attach and other dimensions to you that bring you into
Speaker 3: thought loops or any like a trauma response, fight and flight,
Speaker 3: those those are initiated by things outside of this dimension.
Speaker 3: And so, but nobody really understands that it's what you're
Speaker 3: trying to affect with somatic healing and so, but once
Speaker 3: you understand how it works, like watching people heal stuff
Speaker 3: from the dimensions, it's manifesting in chronic issues and those
Speaker 3: kinds of things in this reality, just I would have
Speaker 3: told you that there's no fucking way any of that
Speaker 3: was going to work. But watching this happen over and
Speaker 3: over like it's undeniable at this point, and so it's
Speaker 3: an understanding. Yeah, understanding frequency and understanding coherence. Coherence is
Speaker 3: so important and we've started saying that words so much
Speaker 3: more now. But we understand the architecture of consciousness and
Speaker 3: so especially internally. And so now we've got a prototype
Speaker 3: based off of the math that we've got where you
Speaker 3: put an EG band it reach it scans what's going
Speaker 3: on in your body, and we know what to measure it,
Speaker 3: and so we're getting coherence scores based off of those readings.
Speaker 3: But we have found that when you start using celestial
Speaker 3: frequencies or if you own it causes your coherence immediately
Speaker 3: jump like significant. And so based off the algorithms and
Speaker 3: the math that we were given, and we are working
Speaker 3: with a company right now that's going to take some
Speaker 3: of this data and we're going to help develop a
Speaker 3: wearable device that it's going to bring the body back
Speaker 3: into coherence that has the potential to be curing autonomic
Speaker 3: and autoimmune issues because that's your body's just had a regulation.
Speaker 3: So if we can get the body back into coherence,
Speaker 3: that's step one. That alone is enormous. But then when
Speaker 3: we start we can then use external frequencies. But what
Speaker 3: we're working on right now is through bone conductivity, just
Speaker 3: being but it will constantly read your body and so
Speaker 3: as it scans and your body shifts, it changes the
Speaker 3: frequencies to bring you to whatever you're trying to do.
Speaker 3: We haven't done it yet because we're just getting on
Speaker 3: the prototype, but based off the way everything looks, we
Speaker 3: should be able to enlightenment states just from sound.
Speaker 1: Wow, that sounds very similar to maybe even like a
Speaker 1: rife machine. Have you looked into the rife machines and whatnot?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so rife machines. Yes, So it's what rife machines
Speaker 3: are trying to do. But they're using open ended frequency
Speaker 3: plan like set playlists and consistent. Ours is closed loop,
Speaker 3: so the feedback channel is important and knowing what to
Speaker 3: measure and so you can't just we're not one size
Speaker 3: fits all to treat cancer. If you want to do that,
Speaker 3: you're there's phase coherence with Quinn acoustic and electromagnetics that
Speaker 3: need to be understood. And once you start understanding all
Speaker 3: of that, we're we're in the process of developing something
Speaker 3: pretty incredible.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, So this, this EEG will essentially hook up
Speaker 1: to you and almost bring you to the frequency that
Speaker 1: you're trying to be at. So let's just say, if
Speaker 1: you want to go like god mode into nine six
Speaker 1: three herds, right, and is that something that you would
Speaker 1: be able to literally be in coherence with the frequency
Speaker 1: that your body and your being is given off. You
Speaker 1: could stay in nine hundred and sixty three hertz all
Speaker 1: day if you wanted to. Is I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm interpreting that right.
Speaker 3: So it's more about how your body responds to specific
Speaker 3: frequencies and what does specific frequencies cause of than it
Speaker 3: is trying to raise your frequency to match like nine
Speaker 3: sixty three, and so it's it's how the how they
Speaker 3: all work together. So it'd be a mixture of frequencies
Speaker 3: depending on what you're trying to do, and each each
Speaker 3: layer will adjust as your body reacts to it. Does
Speaker 3: it makes sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that does make sense. It's almost like it's
Speaker 1: like it's complementary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they all work together. But that's something we didn't
Speaker 3: know because physics and in medicine doesn't understand that yet.
Speaker 3: But now that we have the the framework and the
Speaker 3: architecture of the same box that we live in, Like
Speaker 3: were running simulations the other day, it's like, okay, we understand,
Speaker 3: like what if we were to build an engine in
Speaker 3: alignment with with what reality and consciousness? What would happen?
Speaker 3: So run a simulation that's eight hundred percent more efficient
Speaker 3: than anything that's ever been created. There's we're going to
Speaker 3: be able to do a lot of that. So we
Speaker 3: announced the Consciousness Discovery at the beginning of December. But
Speaker 3: like I even said then, I was like, this is
Speaker 3: just the beginning, Like this is enormous information and will
Speaker 3: help us understand the reality that we live in beyond
Speaker 3: anything that we have ever had access to. But it
Speaker 3: is just the building blocks, Like we're starting here. Where
Speaker 3: we're going with all of this is going to be insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it seems like and a lot of people
Speaker 1: have talked about a new Earth. You know, Dolores Cannon,
Speaker 1: that's my homegirl, rip to a real one, but she
Speaker 1: was always talking about a new Earth. And then of
Speaker 1: course many others have talked about a new Earth. Is it?
Speaker 1: You know? My understanding of a new Earth essentially is
Speaker 1: that it's not like we're jumping to another planet. It's
Speaker 1: almost as if maybe the frequency of this planet and
Speaker 1: the people that align with the new frequency will will
Speaker 1: almost be allowed to experience a new version of Earth,
Speaker 1: and maybe the others who maybe think that it's silly
Speaker 1: or don't believe any of it. It almost seems I
Speaker 1: don't want to say left behind, but it it's almost
Speaker 1: like it's still here and maybe they have access to
Speaker 1: eventually grow to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dolores is a sentemaster now by the way, she's
Speaker 3: come around a couple of times. Super sweet.
Speaker 1: I love her.
Speaker 3: There's one person in our group that really is connected
Speaker 3: with her. So every major prophecy in times prophecy for
Speaker 3: all the major religions, Hoping Indians, it's all coming together
Speaker 3: once and so a growing up Christian I understand that
Speaker 3: more than most. I'll use them as an example. And
Speaker 3: when I try and explain this, but when you look
Speaker 3: at the Bible and it talks about a rapture, it's
Speaker 3: one sentence and it's vague, and so we're talking about
Speaker 3: the same thing. But the esoteric understanding is so much
Speaker 3: more complete, There's so much more depth. Christians are just
Speaker 3: going to struggle with this because they're limiting any accurate
Speaker 3: define information has to be contained within the Bible, and
Speaker 3: if it's not, then they just disregard it, and it
Speaker 3: just it keeps them limited. The way explain it is
Speaker 3: like imagine you had those old encyclopedia books. That's what
Speaker 3: you need to know about how this reality works. Is
Speaker 3: that entire set of cyclopedias the Bible is really important.
Speaker 3: It would be one volume and that would just like
Speaker 3: the other ones. There's problems in all of them. But
Speaker 3: we're you're going to see a dimensional split. And the
Speaker 3: Sun is heavily involved in this. That's where all of
Speaker 3: this activity that's been happening with the Sun that has
Speaker 3: been happening. It is a primary catalyst for what is happening.
Speaker 3: And so we know a physical veil exists and that
Speaker 3: separates us from this divine realm. It hasn't always been there,
Speaker 3: but basically that the Sun is going to send out
Speaker 3: a wave that is going to be the one that
Speaker 3: does it. And it's basically a frequency sweep and if
Speaker 3: you're above a circain frequency, you go, and if you're not,
Speaker 3: you're going to experience the the cataclysmic part of it
Speaker 3: is my understanding is anyone who does experience that will
Speaker 3: still have the opportunity to manifest and the New Earth
Speaker 3: later confirm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, almost like evolve frequency like like it do you do?
Speaker 1: You see it almost as like a a raising your
Speaker 1: frequency in order to be able to distinguish the different
Speaker 1: earths in a sense, yeah.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have it'll be a completely different dimension, so
Speaker 3: you'll be it'll be you'll be in a different density,
Speaker 3: so you're gonna have you're gonna be in a fifth,
Speaker 3: which is what we're interacting with already, So the boundaries
Speaker 3: are not gonna be the same. Like even so, we
Speaker 3: got initially fifty eight quantum equations and we started working
Speaker 3: with them, trying to figure them out, and then we
Speaker 3: were guided that we needed to stop looking at it
Speaker 3: as three D technology and need to start looking at
Speaker 3: as five D because that's when it's going to be used.
Speaker 3: And so this the veil that exists hasn't always been
Speaker 3: there either, which I found surprise, but it also makes
Speaker 3: sense why mythology is what it is. It's history, and
Speaker 3: there's a time when the veil didn't exist, and so
Speaker 3: these divine interactions were actually happening. And so like we
Speaker 3: get into all sorts of Egyptian stuff. I can't wait
Speaker 3: to watch what's.
Speaker 5: Going to unfold, Jonathan, And from from what my guides
Speaker 5: had told me, it's going to be again not a win,
Speaker 5: but it is going to happen, but they won't say when,
Speaker 5: but it's gonna be a pretty instantaneous, like you'll be
Speaker 5: there and there will be it will be like there
Speaker 5: will be some people left behind kind of moments, and
Speaker 5: they will have the opportunity just like you said, they'll
Speaker 5: really they'll have to come to realize what's happened, and
Speaker 5: they'll be able to like find it in their hard
Speaker 5: chakra to make the shift.
Speaker 2: And some will take longer than others.
Speaker 5: But like it's basically everybody transcending evil.
Speaker 2: And then even.
Speaker 5: Some of the worst will be able to figure it out.
Speaker 5: But they're gonna have to deal with some of the
Speaker 5: you know, when the light leaves the earth, it's going
Speaker 5: to get pretty bad for a while kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Now, what's what I did find interesting is that, like,
Speaker 3: because I put myself out there and the stuff that
Speaker 3: I talk about, like I get so many messages for
Speaker 3: people like you're going to think I'm crazy, but this
Speaker 3: is happening, and I almost always know exactly what's going on,
Speaker 3: Like everything they say makes sense. But there are some
Speaker 3: some star seeds that are being guided to prepare for
Speaker 3: learning how to live out the land and solar cells
Speaker 3: and all preparing water and food storage. So not so
Speaker 3: some star seeds are staying back on purpose, and I'm
Speaker 3: not We're not quite sure why what's going to happen there,
Speaker 3: But if I had to guess, there's gonna be some
Speaker 3: bridging between the dimensions at some point.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's my understanding.
Speaker 3: I just don't know what that means yet. I don't
Speaker 3: know exactly what that looks like.
Speaker 1: So there's it seems as though there's going to be
Speaker 1: an event. We don't know. We don't know exactly it.
Speaker 1: Maybe you think that it'll be multiple events that kind
Speaker 1: of lead up to this or one.
Speaker 3: Giant's it comes in waves. It may present itself to
Speaker 3: the uninitiated as a single event, but the split started
Speaker 3: around the middle of December, and so it's a process.
Speaker 3: And so all of these CME waves that keep coming
Speaker 3: in are helping advance that more and more so the sun.
Speaker 3: So we're talking about the code you see in the
Speaker 3: DMT laser. The sun emits light codes which are different
Speaker 3: but you can see them. And so it's basically if
Speaker 3: we're talking about our video game, the sun is what
Speaker 3: provides the software. Okay, So yeah, so there, it'll send
Speaker 3: out new codes. It interacted with three I atlas, send
Speaker 3: it up, sent out more codes, right, now we're in
Speaker 3: the tail of where three eye atlists came through, which
Speaker 3: is probably where these meteors are coming from. It's all
Speaker 3: starting to come together. The timing is just wild, is
Speaker 3: this like?
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've had your fair share of experiences with orbs,
Speaker 1: like so many other people who are kind of in
Speaker 1: this realm or in this kind of you know what
Speaker 1: I mean by this realm? But have you had any
Speaker 1: crazy experiences with the orbs that you know outside of
Speaker 1: d MT use, but like just by going out maybe
Speaker 1: into your backyard or you go out to the beach
Speaker 1: or something like that, has there has there been anything?
Speaker 1: I mean, it is phenomenal, but has there been anything
Speaker 1: extra that you've experienced with this.
Speaker 3: I'll see a ton of them in the sky. We've
Speaker 3: seen many, many, many like off in the distance up
Speaker 3: in the sky, But most of our stuff is done
Speaker 3: with international beings. Like we had a gray in our
Speaker 3: backyard sitting in a swing. He stands up me and
Speaker 3: once the person my family were out there just hanging
Speaker 3: out talking and then we'll both look over we see it.
Speaker 3: It stands up and then just em interfering license Like
Speaker 3: it's just the weirdest stuff ever. But like you, you
Speaker 3: can get to a level, you can go deep enough
Speaker 3: where you can actually feel them and touch them and
Speaker 3: they can move your hands. There are a lot of
Speaker 3: times they've been shown as different budras for kind of
Speaker 3: teaching us different things and how those work, but putting
Speaker 3: our hands in specific alignments. But you can feel them
Speaker 3: physically feel them. It is really bizarre.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And you know, I was, this is
Speaker 1: almost like I don't even want to say CE five.
Speaker 1: This almost seems like CE six type stuff that's going
Speaker 1: on here or whatever that was.
Speaker 3: Dah. I'm well, So if we go back to Dolores
Speaker 3: Cannon's work, if anybody wants to know what's going on,
Speaker 3: the best book for it is Three Ways of Volunteers
Speaker 3: in the New Earth. I'm a part of the second Wave,
Speaker 3: and so is everybody else in our group, and we
Speaker 3: just I think this isn't happening to us by happenstance.
Speaker 3: It felt like it at first, but it's not. And
Speaker 3: I think our interactions were just extreme because of what's
Speaker 3: kind of and what our rules are and how things unfold.
Speaker 1: Have you had a past life regression?
Speaker 3: No, I just asked them, We'll just tell.
Speaker 1: Me oh okay, all right, you got the direct line.
Speaker 1: A lot of us got to be hypnotized for this shit.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but if you wanted to do one, I've
Speaker 3: got some interesting ones. We could go have some fun.
Speaker 1: I was just going to offer you I would love
Speaker 1: to be able to send you there. I mean, if
Speaker 1: that would be something that you'd be interested to fun.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I know. I know quite a few of mine.
Speaker 3: Most of them are have evolved around mysticism and mystery schools.
Speaker 3: So you call your group in the initiatis, are you
Speaker 3: from a mystery school tradition?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: No, No, it's kind of we're almost initiating ourselves into mysticism. Basically,
Speaker 1: with every show, it seems like it's like every every
Speaker 1: new concept and subject and guess that we have almost
Speaker 1: adds on to the layers of our dimensional understanding of sorts.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It feels like every single concept that we did we
Speaker 1: talk about, or every guest that we talked talked to,
Speaker 1: it seems like a door is being opening and there's
Speaker 1: a new level of understanding. And I say that because,
Speaker 1: you know, whenever we first started the show there there
Speaker 1: seemed to be a lot of concepts that we had
Speaker 1: a really hard time grasping. And you know, we at
Speaker 1: first we were kind of just like, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just the mind. It's a crazy place, and and
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But the further our in our
Speaker 1: understanding comes, it's like, oh, that's what that means. And
Speaker 1: now it's like you go back and you read you know,
Speaker 1: mainly p Hall and and stuff like that, and it
Speaker 1: starts to make a lot more sense now, yeah, and
Speaker 1: and and what's even crazier is so it's it's one
Speaker 1: thing from my experience, It's one thing to possess the
Speaker 1: knowledge and have an understanding of the knowledge, and it's
Speaker 1: an entirely different thing to apply that knowledge to your
Speaker 1: everyday life. And that's that's kind of where I'm personally at.
Speaker 3: So when this when I started telling my story, I
Speaker 3: started with a forty day water only fast and I
Speaker 3: was telling a little bit of my story each day
Speaker 3: as I went through it. But it was doing that
Speaker 3: because it was what I'm saying is insane, like this
Speaker 3: is like, I mean, I'm a polymath, I'm I absorb
Speaker 3: information from all over the place. I've never heard of
Speaker 3: anything like this. And so as I'm going through that
Speaker 3: fast one of the guides that said, you should because
Speaker 3: they've been teaching us how this reality works for a while,
Speaker 3: like six months. At that point in time, it's like,
Speaker 3: now that you know what you know, you should look
Speaker 3: to see see if anybody's been to figure this out
Speaker 3: in the past. And so I started doing some research
Speaker 3: and I could. I could find tenants of the understanding
Speaker 3: in certain religions or esoteric practices. But one group had
Speaker 3: all the right answers and it was the Rosicrucians. I
Speaker 3: knew it.
Speaker 1: So I've always connected with that.
Speaker 3: I did not know why. So so we go, I go.
Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about him outside of the Da
Speaker 3: Vinci kid and so I go look at their website
Speaker 3: and they're on their their introductory that are theirs thought.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'm in the right place, all right.
Speaker 3: So but the crazy part is why they have the
Speaker 3: information that they have, Why do they know that information?
Speaker 3: How are they correct? And that's the interesting stuff because
Speaker 3: that gets in the Da Vinci code shit. So the
Speaker 3: they hold all of the records for the scenes in
Speaker 3: the Great White Brotherhood, they have for hundreds of years.
Speaker 3: So when you start going through those records, they start
Speaker 3: talking about all of the missing years of Yeshua's life
Speaker 3: that does that we don't have access to. In the
Speaker 3: Bible talks about going to Indian and to bet and
Speaker 3: Buddhism and understanding all of this stuff. It talks about
Speaker 3: his birth. They were all the scenes. Joseph was in
Speaker 3: a scene. Mary's parents were a scenes. They knew this
Speaker 3: was going to happen. The Wiseman showed up because they
Speaker 3: were so scenes and they came. And so when you
Speaker 3: start then understanding how sended masters work. So a send
Speaker 3: and master are our people who have come to Earth
Speaker 3: school as a soul and gotten an a plus. They
Speaker 3: did what they were supposed to do, and they ascended
Speaker 3: and their their body that they manifested here in this
Speaker 3: reality then goes on. It's not the soul separating, the
Speaker 3: body goes with it and or that manifestation stays. And
Speaker 3: so we started seeing like Simon Peter and Mary Magdalene
Speaker 3: and so like, okay, so how does this work? And
Speaker 3: the way it works is that yes, they were in
Speaker 3: as scenes. We're teaching all of us and how to
Speaker 3: do all of this. He taught the disciples how to
Speaker 3: do that. That's why they all went to a death
Speaker 3: that was awful because it takes complete surrender to do it,
Speaker 3: and so understanding all of that, and it's just so
Speaker 3: they've been hiding all of this stuff for so long
Speaker 3: and now it's all starting to come out. But the
Speaker 3: reason is is because of Yesua that they have all
Speaker 3: the right answers.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes And I've always you know, we
Speaker 1: looked into the rescrusions probably about five six months ago,
Speaker 1: and there was just something to it that I was
Speaker 1: absolutely obsessed with learning, like it seemed right, Like it
Speaker 1: seemed like it's not grasping and anything, and it seems
Speaker 1: like a lot of it is obtainable and understandable as
Speaker 1: long as you can kind of go with the flow
Speaker 1: of the information in a sense as where does it
Speaker 1: make sound.
Speaker 3: It's slow coming in the way that I so I
Speaker 3: joined the Resocutions when it started, just like I just
Speaker 3: wanted to wanted to be able to figure this out
Speaker 3: at a more of depth and have access. And so
Speaker 3: it's it's it's very slow based been in it over
Speaker 3: a year now, and like they just talked about reincarnation
Speaker 3: for the first time, and so like I'm at this point,
Speaker 3: I was just so far beyond it, but there is
Speaker 3: a real value in it, and there's beauty in the
Speaker 3: way it's historically been taught, and like they can't recruit,
Speaker 3: and so that's part of the reason they're failing. So
Speaker 3: nobody talks about it. Nobody, Like most people say rescrutions,
Speaker 3: they don't even know what I'm talking about. But they
Speaker 3: can't recruit as a part of their the way they function.
Speaker 3: And then you can't. You don't know what you're going
Speaker 3: you're signing up for. There's not enough information. That's why
Speaker 3: it's a mystery school. But the thought process is that
Speaker 3: there's nothing that's no such thing as coincidence. If you're
Speaker 3: drawn to it, then you're going to and you want
Speaker 3: to be a member of it. Something outside of marketing
Speaker 3: is going to get you there, and so you're there
Speaker 3: for a purpose. You may not understand it here, but
Speaker 3: nobody just happens to want to be a RESCRUSI just
Speaker 3: off of the street. Something draws them there, and then
Speaker 3: so that's like step one proving you're worthy of understanding
Speaker 3: this more advanced mystical knowledge and how to do these things.
Speaker 3: But then when you get past like the top levels.
Speaker 3: In the same way with freemasonry. It goes on from there.
Speaker 3: If you're worthy, if they feel like you're a good
Speaker 3: candidate for it, then they'll let you. You you would
Speaker 3: never know that you weren't even selected. You feel like
Speaker 3: you've made it to the top as like a master
Speaker 3: mason or whatever, and then you don't even know that
Speaker 3: there's other branches that branch off from there. It's it's
Speaker 3: really fascinating.
Speaker 1: If you don't mind me asking, is it did you
Speaker 1: did you join the A M O r C. Yeah, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the one that I was really interested in. That's
Speaker 1: the one where I was really learning a lot from.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, there's there's longer there's more reasons for that,
Speaker 3: which we can get into offline, but the yeah, and so,
Speaker 3: it just happened that they understand how the universe works,
Speaker 3: how the soul works, how how that there's a mystical
Speaker 3: part of real reality that's been trying they've tried to
Speaker 3: hide it from us. And so, but because of where
Speaker 3: we're at in the timeline and this being the end
Speaker 3: of a cycle, that's why you're seeing this is a
Speaker 3: form of disclosure, this mysticism and all this coming to
Speaker 3: the surfaces the same thing with UAP disclosure, same thing
Speaker 3: with the Epstein files. It's the part of the mechanism.
Speaker 3: Everything that's been kind of hidden is coming to the
Speaker 3: surface at once. The bad stuff is going to be
Speaker 3: wiped away, the stuff that's been hidden that we could
Speaker 3: have used to come closer to God, like mysticism is
Speaker 3: going to become more commonplace and more understood because it's
Speaker 3: something that everyone has the ability to have access to.
Speaker 3: And if I am an example of anything, is that
Speaker 3: you can do some incredible things that will make your
Speaker 3: life better and make you a better human, but bring
Speaker 3: more love into your life. It's the way it's supposed
Speaker 3: to be. It's an exact opposite of what you're seeing
Speaker 3: with the occult and with the Luciferianism and stuff that
Speaker 3: you're seeing with the elites. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there definitely seems to be quite a bit of
Speaker 1: a lack of a better term, loush harvesting, you know.
Speaker 1: And it is so crazy and it's so obvious for
Speaker 1: anybody that is involved in and least understanding of the
Speaker 1: occult and all the esoteric stuff that's out there. Man,
Speaker 1: I recently just saw this crazy thing that it was
Speaker 1: a it was fox now so the news station Fox Now,
Speaker 1: and it was saying, like for anybody, because the subconscious
Speaker 1: mind picks up on a lot of things that maybe
Speaker 1: our conscious mind doesn't pick up on.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I mean, our mind has on average around sixty thousand
Speaker 1: thoughts in a day, in which most people aren't even
Speaker 1: aware of I don't know a fortieth of them at minimum, right.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I saw is that
Speaker 1: somebody put like they were mirroring what the Fox Now
Speaker 1: news channel was putting up to where it would read
Speaker 1: it in reverse, right, And your subconscious mind can pick
Speaker 1: up things on in reverse that maybe your conscious mind doesn't.
Speaker 1: And it was saying, like raw news now or something
Speaker 1: like that, or it's the war room or the raw room,
Speaker 1: that's what it was. And whenever you look at raw
Speaker 1: it looks like war. Whenever you have now, it looks
Speaker 1: like wan and just a bunch of weird like almost
Speaker 1: like subconscious programming that is going on. To be honest,
Speaker 1: I don't know how the fuck anybody is watching news
Speaker 1: anymore any anyway, Right, Like it's like, how how much
Speaker 1: do you need to know that we've been propagandized for
Speaker 1: at minimum the last eighty years, Like.
Speaker 3: A min Wow. So rituals work for a reason, spells
Speaker 3: work for reason, sigils work for a reason. But they
Speaker 3: can also be used to manipulate you and you don't
Speaker 3: even know it, And so you get into some liminal messaging.
Speaker 3: You get like my favorite one is there's a there's
Speaker 3: a monster energy you can. There's a lady that was
Speaker 3: like at a trade show and she's complaining about the
Speaker 3: symbolism on a monster can and she's got like that
Speaker 3: Karen haircut. And when I first saw that, I was like,
Speaker 3: look at this, like she doesn't have anything better to do,
Speaker 3: she's so full of shit. But understanding what we know now,
Speaker 3: that is for sure real, and that is for sure
Speaker 3: trying to manipulate you. They're all that messaging. And so
Speaker 3: then when you get into are you familiar with Cornelian.
Speaker 1: Law, I've heard of it, I'm not too familiar with it.
Speaker 3: So part of the way that you can have if
Speaker 3: you were in the hicle, the way that you can
Speaker 3: bypass karmic blowback from some of the dark things that
Speaker 3: you do is you put it out in the open.
Speaker 3: That's Carnelian law, and the way that they've done it
Speaker 3: is almost like a loophole. But like if you were
Speaker 3: to watch Monsters inc. Now that's a confession, and you
Speaker 3: start seeing like growing up in the nineties, like I
Speaker 3: remember them. I remember seeing on the news like the
Speaker 3: Lion King that the leaves blew off and they said
Speaker 3: sex and then like little Mermaids got digs everywhere, yeap,
Speaker 3: and like I didn't say anything of it. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: I was thinking, Okay, this isn't. But when you start
Speaker 3: understanding that Disney was a mason and he was also
Speaker 3: in Bohemian Grove, and then all of this su like
Speaker 3: it just starts. We just it's gonna get worse too,
Speaker 3: Like it's this isn't. This is just the first dip
Speaker 3: of the toe, and the deep end was just peripherally
Speaker 3: being shown that some of this is impossible to the
Speaker 3: next wave is gonna be way worse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it definitely seems like it's only the tip
Speaker 1: of the iceberg. And I tell you what, man, Like
Speaker 1: it almost seems like even the the conspiracy realms out there,
Speaker 1: people that are talking about conspiracies are almost too scared
Speaker 1: to even look into a lot of the symbolism and everything.
Speaker 1: They're just instantly it's it's Luciferian, it's satanic. It's like, man,
Speaker 1: if you really actually went into the details, you might
Speaker 1: be ametors be able to understand exactly how your mind
Speaker 1: is being manipulated. You know, there's levels to all of
Speaker 1: this stuff, and rather than just accepting it at surface
Speaker 1: level as just luciferian and I'm not gonna look anymore
Speaker 1: into it, it's like, you know, you're almost knowing yourself
Speaker 1: a disservice because now you're not learning it. And if
Speaker 1: you're not learning it, then you're not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to see it everywhere, like in that movie with what
Speaker 1: the fuck's is nameh the wrestler? Oh god, now anyway,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's that a lot of people kind
Speaker 1: of just you know, throw it off surface level kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. But I do want to ask you though,
Speaker 1: like while we're on this conversation and you mentioned it
Speaker 1: a couple of times, like what are the rules of
Speaker 1: this reality? You said that you you almost compiled a list,
Speaker 1: like a long list, but can you maybe rattle off
Speaker 1: a couple of those?
Speaker 3: But it talks about so it's going around. It always
Speaker 3: feels like I'm picking on Christians. I'm not. I'm just
Speaker 3: using that because I know it deeply. I remember throwing
Speaker 3: away all of my CDs that had that weren't Christian
Speaker 3: at one point, just trying to insulate myself from anything
Speaker 3: dark that could possibly happen, just trying to have a
Speaker 3: peer of mind, as they would say. But one of
Speaker 3: the interesting things. So they gave us one hundred universal laws,
Speaker 3: and it's all about balance. It's all about so your
Speaker 3: soul is here to learn things. Your soul is supposed
Speaker 3: to have experience here that are probably bad because that's
Speaker 3: the only way you can learn some lessons. There's some
Speaker 3: lessons that cannot be learned any other way. Loss, grief,
Speaker 3: like extreme anger, just despaired, and it was it was
Speaker 3: mostly about that. It's about like don't don't stay all
Speaker 3: on one side. You need to be able to have
Speaker 3: that balance. It's extremely important. It's it's how you navigate it.
Speaker 3: And that's probably the primary one. I mean, there's stuff
Speaker 3: about inner dimensional communication, there's stuff about intermentional travel, all
Speaker 3: sorts of weird stuff in there, but the bulk of
Speaker 3: it is talking about those frequencies like understanding. You talked
Speaker 3: to fear earlier, like that one of the lowest frequency
Speaker 3: feelings that you can have. You want to try and
Speaker 3: maintain high frequency like the Joe dispens and stuff really works.
Speaker 3: And so when you your body sends you signals that
Speaker 3: we just didn't really understand how to use because there's
Speaker 3: no user died when we show up here. And so
Speaker 3: you the things that make you excited to get excited
Speaker 3: for a reason, but they're not always positive things that
Speaker 3: make you excited. What is that about? Those are still
Speaker 3: things you're probably you're supposed to explore part of this
Speaker 3: journey that may get you into a little bit of trouble,
Speaker 3: but you're there's you're supposed to be led by those feelings.
Speaker 3: And then when and then when you start and when
Speaker 3: you start doing things that make you excited, and you
Speaker 3: choose those over and over. If you have two options,
Speaker 3: choose the one that makes you excited. You continue to
Speaker 3: do that which raises your internal frequency, and that you're
Speaker 3: admitting that frequency out into the universe, and the universe
Speaker 3: is going to respond. So it'll put new people in
Speaker 3: your life, new opportunities in your life that matches that frequency,
Speaker 3: and the ones that don't is to start falling away.
Speaker 3: And I've over the last year there's things that have unfolded.
Speaker 3: Like it's getting harder and harder to even go out
Speaker 3: in public because I'm wide awake and so like being
Speaker 3: around people like at the mall, just I just it's
Speaker 3: just draining. It just doesn't feel good anymore. It's because
Speaker 3: you're out of alignment. Yeah, it's it's just the way
Speaker 3: it works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a strange thing that's going on, and
Speaker 1: maybe it's always gone on, but for me, it's like, man,
Speaker 1: I see how many people are just imprisoning themselves in
Speaker 1: this material reality, that material things is the only thing
Speaker 1: that can make them feel a little a little bit better,
Speaker 1: Like I need to do this, or I need the
Speaker 1: new that I need to go with this clothing trend,
Speaker 1: or I need to you know, say certain catchphrases that
Speaker 1: everybody else is saying because it's like new slang, and
Speaker 1: if you're not saying it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like weird things that are almost habitually keeping people
Speaker 1: here in this physical realm. And meanwhile, those same people
Speaker 1: will hear conversations like this and think that it's kookie,
Speaker 1: Like how could you possibly even imagine that other people
Speaker 1: are talking to interdimensional extraterrestrials and whatnot. It's like it
Speaker 1: almost seems like you have to believe it to see it,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, almost counterintuitive to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, you know, we've all experienced what we've
Speaker 1: what it was like to be duped by believing in
Speaker 1: Santa and the Easter Bunny and whatnot, and I think
Speaker 1: that for some reason, people are very scarred from that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's traumas, there's religious traumas, there's all sorts
Speaker 3: of there's societal trauma. So the way that our structure
Speaker 3: is built and our societies are built, you're you're supposed
Speaker 3: to fit in an air box, right and so but
Speaker 3: that's not the way that we're designed. So we talked
Speaker 3: to it earlier about fear being the lowest frequency that
Speaker 3: you can have the highest frequencies love, but the one
Speaker 3: that's one A would be authenticic and so that is
Speaker 3: not something that you just know. It's something you have
Speaker 3: to explore or find. And so by doing the things
Speaker 3: that you enjoy, use in making that your priority, not
Speaker 3: fitting in someone else's box, you start to realize the
Speaker 3: things that make you tick and the things that make
Speaker 3: you your authentic self. You start finding that, and when
Speaker 3: you can sit firmly in that, there's so much power
Speaker 3: and strength that is within that. Let's that gets into
Speaker 3: the lack of fear conversation we were talking about earlier.
Speaker 3: I don't give a single shit if you don't believe me.
Speaker 3: I know that I'm right, and I know it was certainty.
Speaker 3: It's just just I'm not even gonna I'm not going
Speaker 3: to be defensive about it at all. Like I, at
Speaker 3: some point in time you're going to have something happen
Speaker 3: where you're going to realize that what I've told you
Speaker 3: is right. And so that being able to walk down
Speaker 3: the street knowing that is a different walk than not.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're looking at It's like, you know, at
Speaker 1: least visually that you're walking around in the same world
Speaker 1: that you always thought it was, because it looks very similar,
Speaker 1: but the way that you interact with it is entirely different.
Speaker 1: And I was just thinking about this earlier today too,
Speaker 1: that you know, at least for me on a personal level,
Speaker 1: I used to, you know, look a lot into the
Speaker 1: matrix and the simulation and people talking about that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, and and you know, is this a video
Speaker 1: game or whatever, and I think that it's probably a
Speaker 1: little bit harder. I was thinking about this earlier. It's
Speaker 1: probably a little bit harder if you've lived in the
Speaker 1: same house your entire life, right, because it's always been
Speaker 1: the same and to look at it any different is
Speaker 1: almost like almost unheard of. But for me, I'll give
Speaker 1: you an example. Me and my wife we moved into
Speaker 1: this apartment a few months ago, and it is small,
Speaker 1: bro like, it is a one bedroom fucking shoe box
Speaker 1: that we live in. I mean it's nice, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, it's new. It's nice as a nice swimming pool,
Speaker 1: all the fun things, but it's tiny, and I almost
Speaker 1: feel like like that it feels fake, like in the
Speaker 1: strangest sense, because all I see is four white walls.
Speaker 1: Everything is the same color, everything looks the same, everything's
Speaker 1: brand new, and it's like nothing is wrong. It's like
Speaker 1: if you were launched into a video game. This is
Speaker 1: like a room that you would think would be a
Speaker 1: part of a video game. And for me, it's almost
Speaker 1: a little bit easier to detach from reality because I
Speaker 1: almost see these almost like fake four walls all the
Speaker 1: way around me. Not to get too weird, but it's
Speaker 1: it's so strange, and it's so for me. It almost
Speaker 1: seems like it's easier to look at maybe higher levels
Speaker 1: of understanding and being able to see the reality in
Speaker 1: a higher sense. Does that make any sense?
Speaker 3: No, I can see that. And then like if you
Speaker 3: go back in time, like you start looking at some
Speaker 3: of these ancient ancient but these buildings that were from
Speaker 3: the seventeen hundreds, right, these cathedrals that are older than that,
Speaker 3: There's so much thought went into the architecture and the
Speaker 3: acoustics and all this, and the color and just the
Speaker 3: amount of ornate stuff that's in them. We've lost that.
Speaker 3: It's kind of gotten whitewashed. But I really do feel
Speaker 3: there is a concerted effort to create this environment for
Speaker 3: us that is trying to diminish us as humans, to
Speaker 3: not be able to find this mystical part of our
Speaker 3: reality that we used to have access to a whole
Speaker 3: lot more access to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just getting ready to ask you, do
Speaker 1: you believe that there are maybe inter dimensional beings that
Speaker 1: are trying to keep us trapped in a lower frequency
Speaker 1: because maybe it suits them a little bit more to
Speaker 1: keep us down, so that maybe they're easily like easier
Speaker 1: that we're easier to be puppeteered.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's some there's some of that, and then
Speaker 3: you get into you get into the Hollywood and the
Speaker 3: coal influence there, like that is the same thing as
Speaker 3: you're like, you hear stories about them cutting a new
Speaker 3: trap album and then then you take it into a
Speaker 3: ritual ram and start applying stuff to it, and that
Speaker 3: stuff really worse and stuff you would never know, but
Speaker 3: that stuff is all over Like once you start realizing
Speaker 3: that that's possible, then you start seeing how it all
Speaker 3: connects to the other conspiracy theories we're fake, that they're
Speaker 3: all turning out true. It's all it's all a giant effort,
Speaker 3: which is what's really interesting. Get into the Bail and
Speaker 3: Moloch conversations and you get when you start zooming out
Speaker 3: and get the Lucifer and Bail Mola that they all
Speaker 3: seem to be tying to the same thing though, and
Speaker 3: so it's just it's almost the same thing like we're
Speaker 3: doing for the lighter things. They found different keys to
Speaker 3: open the same door on the dark side.
Speaker 1: Too, right right, And dude, I've been doing a little
Speaker 1: bit of research on Yahweh too, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people that maybe grew up Christian probably don't want to
Speaker 1: hear about this, but it seems like Yahweh was in
Speaker 1: that same circle in Mesopotamian times whenever Yahweh was first discovered.
Speaker 3: Yep. So there's h we understand a lot of the
Speaker 3: history stuff. The there's picking on the Christians again, but
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of stories in the Old
Speaker 3: Testament that are attributed to Big G. That, but there's
Speaker 3: a lot of little gees, and especially when with the
Speaker 3: Angry God stories is not source, that's not the monad,
Speaker 3: that is something else. It's just been a tribute to
Speaker 3: g because they were monotheistic. And to think that horrors
Speaker 3: ever existed is sacrilegious. But Horace for sure really existed,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's man, it's so still exists, dude.
Speaker 1: You start looking into a lot of this history, it's like,
Speaker 1: no wonder a lot of it was covered up. You know.
Speaker 1: I was recently and I'm going to do a show
Speaker 1: here soon on Ashra, which is like a goddess back
Speaker 1: in that time, right, and Ashra had a connection with
Speaker 1: I believe it was with Yahweh. And she was almost
Speaker 1: like the feminine version of yahweh as far as I understand,
Speaker 1: And it almost seems like she was completely wiped away
Speaker 1: from all the history books.
Speaker 3: I'm not even familiar with her, and that's surprising. So
Speaker 3: a s h e R A A.
Speaker 1: S h e r.
Speaker 5: A h h.
Speaker 3: Let's looking at that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a big pleades connection with her as well.
Speaker 5: So don't forget to look down that on the positives, dude?
Speaker 3: Have you?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: You you kind of were referring to the Old Testament
Speaker 1: there and there was big g's and little g's and
Speaker 1: whatnot in there. But what is your what is your
Speaker 1: take on the loheem?
Speaker 3: They are a class of being. They are, Yeah, they're
Speaker 3: they're little g's.
Speaker 1: Little g's, I mean, and they could did they have
Speaker 1: a wide range of good and bad? Or is it
Speaker 1: like high? Like how are we supposed.
Speaker 3: To look at I haven't seen bad. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've only experienced one.
Speaker 1: Okay, I had an experience one time. I never even
Speaker 1: heard of the word, and I was on a mushroom
Speaker 1: trip and it was a whole channeling session and it
Speaker 1: was crazy, dude. So it seemed positive to me that
Speaker 1: I just wanted to run it by you and see
Speaker 1: if you had anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're they're extremely advanced. If you if you get
Speaker 3: into the book, you're not gonna understanding the hierarchy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're they're way up there.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, that makes me feel good. Well
Speaker 1: you kind of called me out there because I'm drinking
Speaker 1: a monster right now. So I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want to take.
Speaker 3: A se so so so think about this too, So
Speaker 3: doctor Ramoto a few years ago that'll study on water
Speaker 3: crystals and being formed. You know, I'm talking about with
Speaker 3: the it's the same kind of situation, but your intent
Speaker 3: and what you do, Like there's a reason to pray
Speaker 3: before your food is because of stuff like that. You
Speaker 3: can you can wipe that away. The same thing happens
Speaker 3: with food, like factory farming, cruelty, animal cruelty. Like if
Speaker 3: you've got a steak, wasn't a factory farm. The conditions
Speaker 3: are shit. The conditions are attaching to that being metaphysically
Speaker 3: and you're absorbing that metaphysically eat it. And so we've
Speaker 3: had to really re evaluate how we look at all
Speaker 3: of that. Like I thought praying before your food was
Speaker 3: just silly, but no, it really does matter.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, it definitely makes sense. Even I've done
Speaker 1: the experiment of like almost stating intention. I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people will meditate or prey over water and
Speaker 1: then stick it in the freezer and see what comes
Speaker 1: out and see if your intention or your prayer somehow
Speaker 1: manifest into physical form. And dude, I pulled it out
Speaker 1: and it was the craziest thing. It was two ms
Speaker 1: that were stacked up on top of each other, bro metamistics.
Speaker 1: It was the I was like, my mind was blown
Speaker 1: and it was Yeah.
Speaker 3: I saw one They froze a dish of water over
Speaker 3: a photo of eyeglasses and you could see in the
Speaker 3: crystals of the form the eyeglasses for their transfer. And
Speaker 3: then do you ever have shower thoughts? Is that a
Speaker 3: thing that you know a lot of people talk about that.
Speaker 3: There's a reason for that. That water is like a
Speaker 3: fair day cage, and so as your as your submersion
Speaker 3: water or if you're in the shower, the reason that's
Speaker 3: happening is because it's it's helping reduce the metaphysical signal
Speaker 3: noise that's out there, so your your channel is clear.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, it makes a lot of sense. A
Speaker 1: lot of witches will say that if you have, like
Speaker 1: any weaker spells or curses that are on you, that
Speaker 1: just by jumping in the shower, it almost you know,
Speaker 1: melted away a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's wild stuff. Man. Man.
Speaker 1: It's all energy, frequency and fucking vibration. It always has been,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything is frequency and light.
Speaker 1: My god. So uh, moving forward, I mean, I know
Speaker 1: that you know that there's definitely something coming. It's hard
Speaker 1: to tell exactly what it what it is, or what
Speaker 1: the series of things will be, but like, where what
Speaker 1: are your plans moving forward? Now that you've kind of
Speaker 1: developed a way to be able to interact with these
Speaker 1: these different densities and the beings in the different densities,
Speaker 1: what's next for you?
Speaker 3: We've got we've been teaching a class on how to
Speaker 3: do this recently when we got back from shots. So
Speaker 3: we got a just complete guide on how to teach this.
Speaker 3: So we've got a group that we're teaching right now now.
Speaker 3: We actually took them to Astal traveling as a group
Speaker 3: to the Moon a couple of weeks ago, which was
Speaker 3: really cool. We'd save a whole lot of money if
Speaker 3: we just do that and so fire rockets off like
Speaker 3: we did today. But the so we have places that
Speaker 3: we're supposed to be, things that we're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get into the specifics of that
Speaker 3: stuff yet, but there's there's things that are hidden that
Speaker 3: need to be revealed, and there there's it's vaults and
Speaker 3: all sorts of weird stuff that's been buried. You're starting
Speaker 3: to see some of them with the scan Pyramids and
Speaker 3: the halls of a menty kind of things that looks
Speaker 3: like are underneath there. Have you seen what's under her?
Speaker 3: Are a war?
Speaker 1: The Egyptian pyramids?
Speaker 3: Well, Jaa is a little bit further away. Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: a labornth there. But you see that in omega symbol
Speaker 3: that's metallic underneath it. So there's it's a giant mega symbol,
Speaker 3: it's metallic, but it's a stargate. It's one of the twelve.
Speaker 3: So I think if I had to guess what's happen
Speaker 3: with what Chris Butts is talking about, is I feel
Speaker 3: like you're going to start seeing access underneath the pyramids.
Speaker 3: Because even in the Rosicrucian initiations and then a scene records,
Speaker 3: so they talk about the Yeshav goes to Indian Tibet,
Speaker 3: then he comes back to Egypt because these scenes were
Speaker 3: a sub division of the Great White Brotherhood, which based
Speaker 3: in Giza. And so it says that they enter in
Speaker 3: a change a pathway that you access between the paws
Speaker 3: of the sphins, goes into a tunnel and pops up
Speaker 3: in a hidden chamber. And so I was going through
Speaker 3: my fast when I was learning about all of this,
Speaker 3: and so I've made a post about what I learned.
Speaker 3: And then two weeks later the scan pyramid scans come out,
Speaker 3: and then there's that fifth chamber that's inside of there
Speaker 3: that nobody knew existed prior to that. And then I've
Speaker 3: got I've been talking to I've known that there was
Speaker 3: a second Sphinx for a while for about a year,
Speaker 3: and we've been trying to find it. And then Felibo
Speaker 3: BEYONDI the other day makes the announced with the other
Speaker 3: day that they think they've located a second Sphinx, just
Speaker 3: on the complete opposite side of it of the pyramids.
Speaker 3: And so what I think is going to happen, the
Speaker 3: new information is going to be revealed is actually really
Speaker 3: ancient information pretty from the cycle previous to this.
Speaker 1: WHOA, all right, Yeah, there seems to be a lot
Speaker 1: of it seems to be kind of split on all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Whenever you talk about the light
Speaker 1: R and the different kind of being able to see
Speaker 1: what's underneath the ground with all the pyramids and all
Speaker 1: the chambers and everything, you know, people will make an
Speaker 1: argument that well, light R and those kind of things
Speaker 1: can't really be trusted. But I don't know, I think
Speaker 1: that it kind of aligns with a lot of the
Speaker 1: mythology that there would be something extra that would be
Speaker 1: attached to a lot of this.
Speaker 3: Like you know, who can't be trusted is areas?
Speaker 1: Oh I know, dude, that guy is absolutely a plan right.
Speaker 3: So he's he's a gatekeeper for sure. I just don't
Speaker 3: know for you it could be the Belderbergs could be
Speaker 3: w for tre lateral the I think where this is headed,
Speaker 3: like they're not going to be able to deny it anymore.
Speaker 3: And so we talked about earlier about dealing with a lot.
Speaker 3: So if you are you familiar with the Emerald tablets
Speaker 3: of thought, of course, Okay, so everything that we know
Speaker 3: completely aligned with what's on those tablets, and they do
Speaker 3: you know, the story of how they found those and
Speaker 3: how those are translated.
Speaker 1: I know that. So the book that I read was
Speaker 1: written by the three Initiates. It's supposed to be really
Speaker 1: close to what was on the Emerald Tablet or the
Speaker 1: Emerald Tablets.
Speaker 3: Do you know do you know Murray's storyel Store?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Of course, yes, yes, Okay, that's.
Speaker 3: The kind of thing that is happening. This feels like
Speaker 3: a cross between John Dee without the oh Cole Restore. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then kind of an Enoch situation that we're dealing
Speaker 3: with here. And so the I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people that I interact with are getting information where things
Speaker 3: are buried and how to open chambers and why they're there,
Speaker 3: where they're from. You're starting to see inklings of stories
Speaker 3: from Romania Bosnia where they found ancient structures that might
Speaker 3: have been a sphinx and they go down underneath it
Speaker 3: that it directly aligns with the description of the pyramids
Speaker 3: from down in Arctica Antarctica. It starts to align with
Speaker 3: the stuff they talk about that they found and create
Speaker 3: the Grand Canyon that they've just completely blocked off. It
Speaker 3: really looks like these are going to be pre flood.
Speaker 3: More on the Atlantean that during that cycle, I think
Speaker 3: that what is all this is from? And then we're
Speaker 3: going to start being able to discover they've been trying
Speaker 3: to hide it and find it for a long time,
Speaker 3: and so I we're just at a point now where
Speaker 3: it's it's they can't stop it. There's too much happening.
Speaker 1: There's way too much, man, especially dude Hillary Clinton and
Speaker 1: all the the Epstein stuff with her trying to find
Speaker 1: what was it Nevedenezer or something like that.
Speaker 3: So she's trying to find Gilgamesh, which is Nemron, which
Speaker 3: they did find. Then they've moved it down to an
Speaker 3: torn together. But there's reasons for that. That was a Nephelin,
Speaker 3: which is accurate, Like if the Book of Enoch. Everyone
Speaker 3: needs to understand that story. You don't need to go
Speaker 3: read the book, just find a good summary of it.
Speaker 3: But that is all very legitimate. Metatron, all that all
Speaker 3: very real.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, you know, And as far as just
Speaker 1: Medatron goes, my experience with that, it's it's not a
Speaker 1: whole lot, but it has been pretty damn profound. Just
Speaker 1: meditating on Metatron in Medatron's cube, It's like there's some
Speaker 1: unlocking that is going on right there to where I
Speaker 1: don't even know what to do with well.
Speaker 3: Part of the part of what you'll get into, what
Speaker 3: the ancient mystics will understand, is sacred geometry. And when
Speaker 3: you get into Metatron, it's a ton of geometry, but
Speaker 3: and knowing how to use it it's super important. And
Speaker 3: then when you start understanding the architecture of our reality
Speaker 3: down at the quantum level, it's gorgeous, like the eight
Speaker 3: last if you don't know what that is, it's a
Speaker 3: very complicated geometric structure as a part of what our
Speaker 3: fabric of reality is based built in we're on and
Speaker 3: it's beautiful. Everything is just gorgeously particulated. Get into Robert
Speaker 3: Edward Grant and the stuff that he's doing, we will
Speaker 3: I'm trying to touch with them because we can complete
Speaker 3: a lot of the answer a lot of the questions
Speaker 3: that's trying to figure out.
Speaker 2: A better money. Who's runds with them? I might be
Speaker 2: able to like you.
Speaker 3: That'd be awesome, I say, member the other day.
Speaker 2: So, so you know, have you seen bass Forge?
Speaker 3: Yes? Oh, he's fantastic.
Speaker 5: He's a buddy of mine when we go to music
Speaker 5: festivals together. Oh, he went to Egypt with Robert and Grant.
Speaker 3: Let's go to music festivals and have a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're definitely my people.
Speaker 3: So yeah, how does electric Force sound. It's got some fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love that.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, I'm I'm a i'moul love. There's so much fun.
Speaker 3: It's all it's all well, it's all frequency and vibration
Speaker 3: and like when you so growing up, like I didn't
Speaker 3: like dance music or any of that. And we got
Speaker 3: invited to a show and I didn't want to go.
Speaker 3: I used to work in the viny space and I
Speaker 3: didn't want to go. My buddy was in town. He's like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: you just I'm here, just come over and like, okay.
Speaker 3: So we left an NBA game and went over there.
Speaker 3: We're not dressed, like I didn't know what you know,
Speaker 3: what to expect, not dressed for that, but you could
Speaker 3: see the energy and it reminded me of like I'm
Speaker 3: going back my childhood growing up as a Christian, Like
Speaker 3: when you write youth Camp and you feel the Holy
Speaker 3: Spirit like it's palpable, you can feel it. But I
Speaker 3: was feeling the same thing there. So it really started
Speaker 3: got my mind work and it's all energy manipulation. If
Speaker 3: everybody's in alignment and thought and body is there's no judgment.
Speaker 3: You can treat be your authentic self. So there's that
Speaker 3: mechanism that it's included in that. And then if you've
Speaker 3: got an artist that's worth it, they know how to
Speaker 3: completely manipulate the energy and just can just take you
Speaker 3: on a ride and.
Speaker 2: Just yeah, that's that's what Tyler is doing.
Speaker 5: And then some of the other DJs that said that
Speaker 5: he's working with, they're like incorporating all of this like geometric,
Speaker 5: spiritual frequencies into the music, all incorporating it all at
Speaker 5: the same time, and it is like a whole nother
Speaker 5: and experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah music that's out there.
Speaker 3: It's Ellis LS dream does Yeah, well he does a side.
Speaker 3: He's the side like light Code and it's all in
Speaker 3: there's light languages infused in it. It's the opposite of
Speaker 3: what you're seeing with uh doja Cat you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's what twit and like a Stranger My my
Speaker 5: top two we're going to this year.
Speaker 3: We're talking about being manipulated. We go back into the
Speaker 3: Rockefellers in the twenties, and the Rocket and Feller Foundation,
Speaker 3: shifting our tuning of our music from four thirty four
Speaker 3: forty and understanding cimatic patterns like basebors, does you start
Speaker 3: to really understand you're mostly water. It starts to make
Speaker 3: a lot more sense. And if we can if we
Speaker 3: can get back to making music that is in alignment
Speaker 3: with that with what it should be, it's going to
Speaker 3: be so much more fulfilling. And so, but if you're
Speaker 3: if you're a big music fan, then you do DMT,
Speaker 3: especially with complex sounds and like big sounds. I've got
Speaker 3: a whole playlist it's like eight hours of what I
Speaker 3: call it DMT textures. It's just you can hear. You
Speaker 3: can differentiate frequencies and sounds so much better when you're
Speaker 3: on it. And so if you put the headphones in
Speaker 3: and just blast it, like it causes the sound to expand,
Speaker 3: and it's like dole the atmost in your head. And
Speaker 3: if it's really good, like I'll just find myself just
Speaker 3: like damn, like this is in a groove, Like it
Speaker 3: is so much fun and the sound is just so gorgeous. Yeah. Actually,
Speaker 3: my favorite, my favorite experience, our guess most baalsiest experience
Speaker 3: was I was at the Adeza finale at a University
Speaker 3: of Colorado, fifty thousand people. Third Row hit the pin
Speaker 3: during the finale and it was incredible.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, that like transcending right.
Speaker 3: There, like the whole stage when I and the visuals
Speaker 3: just became the field that we were in and like
Speaker 3: it was. That was incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's so crazy, how you know, whenever you're you know,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to say under the influence because
Speaker 1: that's that almost implies like illicit drugs and it's not.
Speaker 1: I hate whenever people like apply plant medicine to it
Speaker 1: being the same thing as heroin or something. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: not even close. We're talking about a totally different thing here.
Speaker 1: I had an experience one time with my cousin Sean.
Speaker 1: We were watching h well, I think it's called Walk
Speaker 1: Across the Universe. It's like a Beatles soundtrack movie, and dude,
Speaker 1: this woman started singing in the entire living room filled
Speaker 1: up with bubbles. It was the craziest thing. Dude. I
Speaker 1: was like, do y'all see this, because I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm going around on popping the bubbles. It was like
Speaker 1: the craziest thing.
Speaker 3: But you know, people will hear this and think this
Speaker 3: is kind of silly and that we were kind of
Speaker 3: losing it because we do psychedelics. But they go to
Speaker 3: a job where they're an accountant every day. They are
Speaker 3: missing out on one of the most incredible joys of
Speaker 3: life that we have been ever discovered. Like there is
Speaker 3: nothing that compares to it if you put if you
Speaker 3: put my top life events in a list, the first
Speaker 3: few hundred lines are going to be D and T experiences,
Speaker 3: and then it's going to get into normal stuff. Like
Speaker 3: there's nothing like it, and you can't abuse it, you
Speaker 3: can't get addicted to it like it is now I have. Recently,
Speaker 3: there's been quite because it's getting more popular when people
Speaker 3: are doing it and you're getting I actually made a
Speaker 3: video about this today. People are getting locked out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was just asking about that. What are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely can happen. So this guy was I got
Speaker 3: tagged in this guy's video. They got some traction a
Speaker 3: lot and people were sending it to me. He talks
Speaker 3: about I don't know what I did, I didn't do anything,
Speaker 3: and then like three minutes later at the end, he's like,
Speaker 3: if you think I was trying to take something I
Speaker 3: really wasn't. I just thought I'd bring it back to
Speaker 3: use it in this reality. As for analysis, I'm like,
Speaker 3: well there's your answer, Like you get there. There is
Speaker 3: there's a way to do this, the right way. Going
Speaker 3: in and exploring it and doing it for fun is fun.
Speaker 3: It is and it is incredible, but it's not the
Speaker 3: way it's supposed to be used. And if you do
Speaker 3: something wrong or you're a terrible person, they will not
Speaker 3: let you win, like it will not happen, and they
Speaker 3: will let you get and sometimes it's it's not kind.
Speaker 1: Ah. Yeah, yeah, that's what I've I've seen as well. Man,
Speaker 1: it's crazy because a lot of people will use it
Speaker 1: as like a party thing or it's just like a
Speaker 1: fun you know, experience and not necessarily applying it. And
Speaker 1: it's like, I yeah, I think that it should be
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, it should be more ceremonial.
Speaker 1: You know, you shouldn't be taking it more so.
Speaker 3: You should respect it. You don't have to you don't
Speaker 3: have to treat it as a ritual or you don't
Speaker 3: have to do it in a shamanic kind of experience
Speaker 3: to where you've got you know, some random duty, playing
Speaker 3: a drum over in the corner like it's it doesn't
Speaker 3: need that, but it does need respect. And so there's
Speaker 3: there's a mechanism in it. If you go through the breakthrough,
Speaker 3: go to a breakthrough. So there's different levels. What we
Speaker 3: talked about, what we are trying to maintain is what
Speaker 3: we call the working level. There's a breakthrough level. It's
Speaker 3: above that, and the experiences are extreme, but they're more
Speaker 3: vivid there. You kind of don't want it to end.
Speaker 3: And if you can continue to hit that pin and continue,
Speaker 3: they have it continue, but at some point it's going
Speaker 3: to shut you down. And the way it does it,
Speaker 3: it's called a hyper slab and it is jarring. It
Speaker 3: only lasts like ten seconds, but it is going to
Speaker 3: shock your soul to the point to where next time
Speaker 3: you go in you're not going to be able to
Speaker 3: not think about that and like, I don't want to
Speaker 3: get to there. Yeah, because then there's one time, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so there was there was one time. I know, I've
Speaker 3: been doing this for years, thousands of times, and so
Speaker 3: I'm used to it, and I was I was riding
Speaker 3: that train just it was it was just the experience.
Speaker 3: It was like it was showing off, and so I
Speaker 3: just I'm just letting it go. And then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, it takes a turn and it starts going
Speaker 3: down the hallway and I'm like, oh wait, I know
Speaker 3: where this leads. I don't want this. And so I'm
Speaker 3: laying in bed and I jump up and I'm running
Speaker 3: through my shower. I'm going to try and shock myself
Speaker 3: out of it with cold water, and then the whole
Speaker 3: way there, the lights are going on and off, and
Speaker 3: then I'm in the shower and the shower's going hot cold, hot, cold,
Speaker 3: and then it's shower off and it's a completely taking
Speaker 3: the water. It physically wasn't doing that in the three
Speaker 3: D reality, but my perception of it just completely it
Speaker 3: didn't exist. And I set like and it's it's spooshy
Speaker 3: like a it's like a boo j up scare, and
Speaker 3: like I stood there for probably thirty minutes afterward, they're
Speaker 3: just like huh, just trying to grasp what the hell
Speaker 3: just happened. But that's the way it works, Like you
Speaker 3: physically cannot abuse it. It will not let you did it,
Speaker 3: but that that's even possible that it can block people
Speaker 3: that just also is more evidence into the factor that
Speaker 3: it is not a psychedelic. This is not something that's
Speaker 3: just generated by your brain. This is external. Something external
Speaker 3: is blocking people from being able to access around. It
Speaker 3: doesn't matter how much they take, it does not matter.
Speaker 3: They will not be able to get access and they
Speaker 3: are not in control. And for that to be the case,
Speaker 3: this for fucking sure.
Speaker 1: All right, I got a really far out there question
Speaker 1: for you. So it seems to me that a lot
Speaker 1: of people who may have been someone in a higher
Speaker 1: hierarchy in other dimensions, maybe before they incarnated here, have
Speaker 1: incarnated here for this specific time. Now, with that being said,
Speaker 1: if that is the case, would you say that some
Speaker 1: of those people that have incarnated as humans for this
Speaker 1: specific time were also entities or beings that were guiding
Speaker 1: others through these types of experiences before they incarnated as.
Speaker 3: Humans as guides like attached to them. Yeah, I would
Speaker 3: assume so, but I don't know for sure. I've never
Speaker 3: asked that question.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was just I really, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I've had this question of the mix. Usually it's
Speaker 3: two to five normally, and it could be an angel
Speaker 3: and then as a master, and then an ancient being
Speaker 3: that you don't even know what to call it. But
Speaker 3: the rhyme or reason of why certain types get attached
Speaker 3: to certain people, I don't know the answer to it.
Speaker 3: I'm really curious about that. I need to figure that out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, I just love learning about all this stuff.
Speaker 1: I fully, fully believe it. Now. I think that you know,
Speaker 1: it's it almost comes in waves, like it trickles in.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's probably done on purpose, because
Speaker 1: I think too much at one time may be a
Speaker 1: little bit overwhelming to each individual out there. But I
Speaker 1: almost like to look at it like it's a story
Speaker 1: that's unfolding.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So let's use the Epstein files as an example.
Speaker 3: So twenty sixteen, when the Podesta emails came out, it
Speaker 3: was so crazy that there's no way that that's real.
Speaker 3: That's got to be a scio, Right, So you just
Speaker 3: think civilization is exposed just a concept that it's outlandish.
Speaker 3: And then then the first wave of the Epstein files
Speaker 3: come out, and then so they're vanilla compared to what
Speaker 3: we have today. And then later on down the road, Okay,
Speaker 3: here's some more, and here's now you're starting to see
Speaker 3: some of the dark stuff. But just the peripheral parts
Speaker 3: of it, and then the next one's gonna be worse.
Speaker 3: But we've had the same thing with the way that
Speaker 3: we've been taught things too. We'll get exposed to something
Speaker 3: and have no clue what's happening, why it's happening, no
Speaker 3: way to explain it, no guidance on what to what
Speaker 3: it's about. And then it's like little breadcrumbs. You just
Speaker 3: keep following the bread crumbs and then eventually something's going
Speaker 3: to happen where it'll snap, it'll make it'll just all
Speaker 3: connect together and all of it will all make sense
Speaker 3: and then you'll fully understand what them and trying to
Speaker 3: show you and then how to use it or whatever
Speaker 3: it is. It's yeah, it's it's incremental and so and
Speaker 3: it's by design is you're trying to keep from ontological shock.
Speaker 3: It's so much information, it's so different than what we
Speaker 3: were told was real. That's I mean, it's a lot
Speaker 3: for anybody.
Speaker 1: Oh dude. We bought into this material world and being
Speaker 1: and thinking that that's all there was, and it was
Speaker 1: almost like shielding all of this information from even happening
Speaker 1: by completely enveloping the normal, everyday person into the material realm.
Speaker 1: And what what really trips me up is is is
Speaker 1: that we know that we're only here for a limited time.
Speaker 1: So why are we so focused on this material realm
Speaker 1: as if it is the only thing that exists and
Speaker 1: everything that is beyond it is silly?
Speaker 3: You know, they tell you you don't exist after you die.
Speaker 3: That's why it's because there's you're Once you start understanding
Speaker 3: that reincarnation is real and then how all of that works,
Speaker 3: then it you completely shore just how you navigate this life.
Speaker 3: It does. That's part. It goes back into the fear
Speaker 3: stuff that we talked about. That's why I don't fear.
Speaker 3: That's why if if I lose somebody in my life,
Speaker 3: somebody passes away, the grief is no longer there either,
Speaker 3: because what's going on. Yeah, I know what's going to
Speaker 3: happen after that happens, and so yeah, dude, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: But I also know that you would have known your soul,
Speaker 3: would have known how you're going to die before you
Speaker 3: ever signed up for this. So it's actually not a
Speaker 3: surprise to you. It's surprised to you. It shot up.
Speaker 3: It's not the one that moves on, right, Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: whatever your soul's name is man. And so when when
Speaker 3: you start looking at me, I'm telling you there's just
Speaker 3: so much power. And I'm not in an egotistical like
Speaker 3: authoritarian way, just just more like that defined masculine power
Speaker 3: and being able to live your life.
Speaker 1: Like that fully agree. Yeah, there's so much to learn.
Speaker 1: And God, I just love this kind of these kind
Speaker 1: of conversations saying thank you so much for coming tonight. Dude,
Speaker 1: this is I really enjoyed it. Well to do it again, absolutely, man. Well, look,
Speaker 1: every episode we do a Tarot card reading towards the
Speaker 1: end of the show, and usually the Tarot cards will
Speaker 1: align with the energy of the show, and tonight's no
Speaker 1: different because we got the Eight of Wands, which is
Speaker 1: very strange for this conversation. And I'll just read it
Speaker 1: out right here. I'm no taro master, but I dabble.
Speaker 1: But the Aid of Wands it says, incoming news sparks
Speaker 1: a series of events that will change your trajectory. You
Speaker 1: find yourself where you need to be and in the
Speaker 1: company of the right people. Flow with the current. The
Speaker 1: Eight of Wand's card brims with the energy of hastiness
Speaker 1: and speed, along with the aces and the Three of Swords.
Speaker 1: It is. It is one of the only minor arcandic
Speaker 1: cards that does not depict people. This puts an emphasis
Speaker 1: on the action taking place. Here you see eight budding
Speaker 1: wands flying through the air over a lovely pastoral landscape.
Speaker 1: These wands carry messages and can come in the form
Speaker 1: of letters, phone calls, emails, texts, or news heard from
Speaker 1: the lips of a passing stranger. However these messages come,
Speaker 1: they bring an element of excitement, speeding up events in
Speaker 1: your life and disrupting your daily routine, often in an
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly positive way.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you so, the very first thing I ever
Speaker 3: posted on TikTok was a message that came through before
Speaker 3: I was made started talk telling my story, and it
Speaker 3: was said, before I can change the world, have to
Speaker 3: fix myself first. And I've been going through the last
Speaker 3: two years what feels a massive growth and forging process
Speaker 3: to prepare for what's next. And I feel like we're
Speaker 3: at the end of that phase and stepping into a
Speaker 3: new one. And I am ready. So I am I'm
Speaker 3: ready for this phase to be over because some of
Speaker 3: it has been really challenging, but it's all for a reason,
Speaker 3: and I'm ready to rock and roll, like I'm ready
Speaker 3: for some chaos that happen in the world because I
Speaker 3: know that's the next step, and that means we're shifting
Speaker 3: into high gear and I'm being on ready for that moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's got to be a catalyst, or several catalysts.
Speaker 3: It's like there's gonna be quite a few at once.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well, hey, we know what we know.
Speaker 1: Whenever it happens, I think we'll all know. Do you
Speaker 1: think that it'll be like that?
Speaker 3: No? Oh, there's there's a part of me that feels
Speaker 3: like we the ones that make it, may not realize
Speaker 3: it as a part of the mechanism. I don't know
Speaker 3: for sure though, but I'm one of us will.
Speaker 1: Be right, We'll see whenever it comes. I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's that's just intuition. That is not guidance or anything
Speaker 3: like that. It's just, uh, it wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 3: the shift happens and then we don't actually realize it.
Speaker 3: It may we may not realize because there there's do
Speaker 3: you know what the Grand Central Center is or the
Speaker 3: Great Central Sun?
Speaker 1: Oh, the Great Central Sun film.
Speaker 3: Different than different than our son. It's a dimensional metaphysical
Speaker 3: great central son.
Speaker 1: Would this also be referred to as the black Sun?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. No, I don't know. Nick. Can
Speaker 3: you chime in? Do you know anything about that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a it's not like source per se,
Speaker 5: but it's like a kind of more.
Speaker 3: Source source having So there's a chance that's that solar
Speaker 3: flash comes from that. If that happens, then we wouldn't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and again, like you said, one of us will
Speaker 5: be right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my just from there it's not mine.
Speaker 5: Is that it'll be like you'll have to you'll have
Speaker 5: to come to grips with the reality that that is
Speaker 5: before you, and it'll be as if you're waking up
Speaker 5: from a dream.
Speaker 2: Mm well we'll.
Speaker 5: See what can we can talk about it on the
Speaker 5: other side one way?
Speaker 1: Yeah, on real, Well, there's a lot of crazy ship
Speaker 1: that is going to be coming up one way or another.
Speaker 1: And hey, man, we're happy to have you in the
Speaker 1: loop because if you don't notice it, I'm happy we
Speaker 1: at least got you and Nick and everybody else that
Speaker 1: is like fucking tapped in like Avatar and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: let's rock dude.
Speaker 3: Let's do it. Man. Well, thanks again for having me.
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. Look, if anybody wants to reach out
Speaker 1: and find you or follow you on any of any
Speaker 1: of the projects you got going on, how would they
Speaker 1: do so, sir?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So most of my stuff when we talk about
Speaker 3: we call it the WU and I'll talk about it
Speaker 3: on TikTok. Only starting to put some of my fasting
Speaker 3: videos on YouTube I'll put I'm going to try and
Speaker 3: save that for more long form contents, more polished content
Speaker 3: coming out soon, but right now follow me on TikTok.
Speaker 3: And then we were we just established the Huronic Research
Speaker 3: Institute that this all expand into you to be a
Speaker 3: little bit more formal.
Speaker 1: So awesome, awesome. Well, look, I'm gonna have all of
Speaker 1: your links down in the show notes below for anybody
Speaker 1: that wants just a hyperlink to get over to all
Speaker 1: of your stuff. But yeah, otherwise, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining. This has been an absolute blast. We really
Speaker 1: appreciate your time and all the knowledge, and we definitely
Speaker 1: hope to do it again.
Speaker 3: Man, all right, you'll take care much stuff.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Well, look, if Brad of Arc came here and he
Speaker 1: taught you anything, it's that you don't know what you
Speaker 1: don't know, so I'll just get weird.
Speaker 3: Stay weird.
Speaker 1: Okay, we are back. Oh yeah, meditation. I knew that
Speaker 1: meditation was gonna hit a little different after that conversation.
Speaker 1: Just on real man, when you just allow things to happen,
Speaker 1: don't try and think about it, just allow it to
Speaker 1: happen in meditation. Don't look for it, don't think about it,
Speaker 1: don't try and make it happen nothing, Just observe. Some
Speaker 1: of the craziest knowings will come to you.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I've I was reading some book I can't remember, maybe
Speaker 1: it was this one of these It's augmentavs books, but
Speaker 1: I believe somebody said that, like, you know, and not
Speaker 1: even just in this book, but plenty of other books
Speaker 1: have referred to that we exist in this reality because
Speaker 1: of the vibration of love or something of the sort.
Speaker 1: And that always kind of struck me a little bit
Speaker 1: because you look around at a lot of the atrocities
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I don't know, maybe, but I
Speaker 1: think that there's depth to that, you know, to that frequency,
Speaker 1: to whatever that is, because within that, like within that
Speaker 1: energetic layer of love, whatever love is, if you almost
Speaker 1: like just treat love as if it's like I've heard
Speaker 1: people will often refer to it as gravity. But if
Speaker 1: you want to look at it like as if it's
Speaker 1: a power like gravity, then you think about the different
Speaker 1: variances of it. You know, what all happens in love,
Speaker 1: and obviously because of love, there has to be a
Speaker 1: lack of love in order for you to observe love,
Speaker 1: you know, subjectively, and especially within a frequency like that.
Speaker 1: Now I know that it was nine sixty three, but
Speaker 1: it's frequency of God. So they say, which would be
Speaker 1: you know, God is love and that whole deal. And man,
Speaker 1: I went through a bevy of emotions and thoughts and
Speaker 1: feelings and everything through that meditation, and it was like,
Speaker 1: like I felt such love at the beginning, and then
Speaker 1: I started thinking about something that just made me so
Speaker 1: incredibly sad and made me feel so heavy, like almost legit.
Speaker 1: Almost started crying in the middle of that meditation because
Speaker 1: it was just, ah, you have some things that happen
Speaker 1: in your life that are just hard to swallow. And
Speaker 1: then I started thinking, you know, like I felt like
Speaker 1: almost like a fear was overcoming me. And I remember
Speaker 1: what we talked about, and I was like Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't have to allow fear to happen. And so with
Speaker 1: having that thought, it's like, all right, well, what's going
Speaker 1: to pull me out of fear? Within this whole vibration
Speaker 1: of love is a faith in knowing that everything's going
Speaker 1: to work out exactly the way that it was always
Speaker 1: supposed to. And man, just knowing that it instantly sent
Speaker 1: me from a fear vibration that I was temporarily feeling
Speaker 1: into a higher oneness that could almost see above whatever
Speaker 1: was causing me causing me like that lower vibratory feeling. Man,
Speaker 1: it's just so crazy because I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: as humans, of course we're this reality. You're gonna feel
Speaker 1: a bevy of emotions from you know, you know all
Speaker 1: the emotions anger, sadness, grief, fear, but then you know
Speaker 1: love and authenticity and you know higher vibrations as well.
Speaker 1: And it's like I believe, And that's why I asked
Speaker 1: Brad earlier, you know, does temptation exist on all levels
Speaker 1: or whatever? And the reason why I was asking that
Speaker 1: is because is this kind of like the only place
Speaker 1: where you get to feel all of that, you know,
Speaker 1: the highs of the highs and the lows of the lows,
Speaker 1: and I think that we get remnants of all of it, really,
Speaker 1: and maybe we'll never take on the highest of the
Speaker 1: high feeling, and maybe we'll never even take on the
Speaker 1: lowest of the low feeling, no matter how low you
Speaker 1: get or how high you get emotionally. But I think
Speaker 1: that this might be one of the only places to
Speaker 1: where you can feel everything, and maybe that doesn't exist
Speaker 1: anywhere else. I don't know. I can't remember a lot
Speaker 1: of my past lives, you know, but it's it is.
Speaker 1: It is very powerful whenever you can, you know, like
Speaker 1: transcend that feeling of fear into a feeling of faith
Speaker 1: in knowing that it's that it's all going to work
Speaker 1: out exactly how it was meant to. And I do
Speaker 1: believe that we signed up for all this, that's one
Speaker 1: thing I absolutely believe. I think that we did sign
Speaker 1: up for all of it, or at least we were,
Speaker 1: you know, red in. But there's no way that we
Speaker 1: just signed up for I don't know. Some people will
Speaker 1: say that we're trapped here and we didn't have any
Speaker 1: say so, and I'm like, I don't think that's true either,
Speaker 1: because I think there were all one I think there
Speaker 1: were all one thing, and we divided so that we
Speaker 1: could experience. But ultimately when we go back, we're back
Speaker 1: into the soup of oneness. At least that's where I'm at.
Speaker 1: And it does me good to believe that. Just me
Speaker 1: on a personal level, it does me good to believe that,
Speaker 1: And I think that's all that really matters. I think
Speaker 1: that we probably get too hooked up and too like
Speaker 1: Ben out of shape on archetypes and what's the correct
Speaker 1: story this? And I don't think any of that matters,
Speaker 1: because you can find a great Mormon, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you can find a great Christian, you
Speaker 1: can find a great Muslim, you can find a great
Speaker 1: spaghetti monster, you know, member whatever they call their people.
Speaker 1: The point is is that I don't think that it
Speaker 1: necessarily matters how we categorize it, because I think that
Speaker 1: the truth of the reality transcends the myths and the stories,
Speaker 1: and I think these are just kind of outliers lenses
Speaker 1: for us to look through. That's the message that I
Speaker 1: had gotten from the Yeloheem as well. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what lens you look at it through. But of course
Speaker 1: there is a certain way that you want to be
Speaker 1: you know, you want to be a good person. You
Speaker 1: want to be thoughtful, you want to be empathetic, You
Speaker 1: want to care about other people whenever they're down, and
Speaker 1: you want other people to care about you whenever you're down.
Speaker 1: You want people to be there for you, and you
Speaker 1: should be that person that's there for everybody else too.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, a lot of this is to try
Speaker 1: to find exactly what the meaning of all of it
Speaker 1: is so that we know how to act. But I
Speaker 1: think to our corese we know exactly how to act.
Speaker 1: Otherwise we wouldn't feel guilty for making a selfish decision.
Speaker 1: You think about it, like, and most people probably turn
Speaker 1: that part of themselves off, but that is built into us.
Speaker 1: You know, whenever you make a selfish decision, even if
Speaker 1: you feel justified, it's like there's something in you that
Speaker 1: is like, you know, you were selfish right there. You
Speaker 1: know you probably shouldn't have done that. You know, It's like,
Speaker 1: what's that?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: If it's not built into us, then why do we
Speaker 1: get those subtle like reminders like that? And so I
Speaker 1: think that that is probably the little tie to the
Speaker 1: all that is just a constant reminder and whether you're
Speaker 1: tuned in or tapped out. Maybe there's varying degrees of
Speaker 1: understanding about how all that works. Man said, I was
Speaker 1: a lot really really helpful, though really interesting. So anyhow,
Speaker 1: all right, well it's time to dip out. This show
Speaker 1: is going over on for over three hours and I
Speaker 1: loved every second of it. So thank you guys for joining.
Speaker 1: This has been such a fun one, very memorable, and
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 3: See