Speaker 1: Welcome to the Snartzack.
Speaker 2: You're about to get your.
Speaker 3: Name's glazed by the great Chris Ray Goods, Derek black
Speaker 3: Bet and Tom Sway.
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Speaker 2: Stark Tank Podcast.
Speaker 4: It's me your host, Chris, It's it's him. Derek Sweeney
Speaker 4: is gone. He's being I don't know, ravaged in Costa Rica.
Speaker 4: He's getting his appendix stone. He's gonna come back looking
Speaker 4: thin but wrong. If you've played far Quai three, if
Speaker 4: you played far Kuai three, like you kind of have
Speaker 4: an idea what's going on with him right now? So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: he was on the plane with Foss actually, but we
Speaker 4: were joined by a very special guest, our buddy over here,
Speaker 4: the act man.
Speaker 2: Look at him, Luigi.
Speaker 3: H yeah, look at us prepared, but somebody didn't.
Speaker 1: So yeah, somebody get the memo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 4: You know what's disappointing about this is like we did
Speaker 4: a stream over on Sacred for the the what is
Speaker 4: it the state of play today? And everybody was wearing
Speaker 4: sunglasses and I had I had some to contribute, and
Speaker 4: so we all just did the stream in sunglasses like
Speaker 4: a bunch of assholes. Good and now it's happening again.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but with Luigi has and I was like,
Speaker 4: I was under prepared. I did not expect to require
Speaker 4: the Luigi had.
Speaker 3: Well, Mario would have sufficed Warrio any more, like a
Speaker 3: Wallauigi kind of guy.
Speaker 2: Though, let's be real, Well I wish I was that tall.
Speaker 2: That'd be nice.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Yeah, but uh yeah, man, I don't even know,
Speaker 4: like there's a so obviously we're all uh gamer nerds here,
Speaker 4: and uh it's been I don't know, man, I don't
Speaker 4: know how you feel about it because we haven't really
Speaker 4: talked really in a hot minute. I feel like this
Speaker 4: year is kinda this year's kind of crazy. I mean,
Speaker 4: the last couple of years honestly have been kind of
Speaker 4: like wildly good in my opinion, like as far as
Speaker 4: like just kind of sleeper out of nowhere hits, Like
Speaker 4: obviously elden Ring was the big one that kind of
Speaker 4: kicked everything off. But like this year, like I just
Speaker 4: heard I just saw Hades two. Oh yeah, Has like
Speaker 4: he's like getting like tens and perfect score. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And then Silk Song finally comes out and Expedition
Speaker 3: thirty three. I played a bit of Expedition thirty three. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think this year's been pretty cracked. Also, like I'm
Speaker 3: still I'm still big in the Hell Divers too, and
Speaker 3: the new updates they came out with for that, like
Speaker 3: it sometimes makes it feel like a brand new.
Speaker 2: Game, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, in this world, I think I don't know
Speaker 3: how often you guys stick with a game, because, like
Speaker 3: I do gaming videos, I kind of have to keep
Speaker 3: moving on to the next thing, next thing. But I
Speaker 3: always make time for Hell Divers too.
Speaker 4: I haven't played it in a while. I really loved
Speaker 4: it when when it first came out, I was on
Speaker 4: it every fucking day for hours.
Speaker 2: I was doing I was doing my part.
Speaker 4: I loved it, dude, I And even at the time,
Speaker 4: I was like, this is like, this is like an
Speaker 4: ods T game.
Speaker 3: This is sick.
Speaker 2: Collab. Did you check it out? Then?
Speaker 4: I didn't because there was so much Dude, I have
Speaker 4: to play.
Speaker 1: The hat off. Take that hat off. You can't even listen.
Speaker 4: I bought I did buy it. I haven't I haven't
Speaker 4: played it yet, but I did buy it. By the past,
Speaker 4: so I did my part, you.
Speaker 3: Continued, you you made a donation to the Hell Divers.
Speaker 2: Super Pack, to the Yeah, exactly, to the super Pack
Speaker 2: the Freedom but uh gotcha, it's yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I feel like that game came
Speaker 4: out of nowhere too, Like I thought. I remember when
Speaker 4: that game was first shown. I thought, I was like,
Speaker 4: this is gonna suck. Really it just looked yeah, because
Speaker 4: like the trailers they showed for it were just like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, they were trying too hard, it felt like.
Speaker 4: And then whenever they showed it before it came out,
Speaker 4: it was always running at like twenty seven frames per second,
Speaker 4: like they showcased it in like a completely fucked way.
Speaker 4: Like it's very clear that they had no idea that
Speaker 4: game was going to be as big as it was
Speaker 4: because they were too busy trying to make Concord or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, looking at the games that have come out
Speaker 3: this year, it is pretty cracked.
Speaker 2: Donkey Kong Bonanza, Yeah, I played that one.
Speaker 3: Mario Kart World, do.
Speaker 2: You have a switch to have you sent me one? Oh? Wow? Really? Damn? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Nice?
Speaker 3: Well, through like my agency they were like, yeah, can
Speaker 3: you just post a They said, what was it? What
Speaker 3: was the phrase one? He used some weird terminology I've
Speaker 3: never heard.
Speaker 1: From a sponsor before, but it was it was like chill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was very chill.
Speaker 3: Basically, they just wanted like a tweet, a post or
Speaker 3: like a short, and you know, all these people were
Speaker 3: posting like I got the switch to Hell. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: then my picture was like me holding a N sixty
Speaker 3: four box with the switch to box like slightly in
Speaker 3: the like far in the background.
Speaker 1: I was like, I just got the new Nintendo console.
Speaker 2: And and they were fine with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much, that's great.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like there was a time on YouTube where
Speaker 4: like I like, pretty well, early on is relative, I guess,
Speaker 4: because early on would be fucking I don't even know,
Speaker 4: like smash lip syncing to Pokemon, but like early on,
Speaker 4: I guess in like this new era or whatever where
Speaker 4: like I remember sponsors would they would have like an
Speaker 4: ad read or they would have like a copy and
Speaker 4: it used to be like you could kind of do whatever,
Speaker 4: and then I remember at a certain point it started
Speaker 4: getting really specific, like like I remember Raycon. At a
Speaker 4: certain point they were like, don't don't mention rage anymore, please, yeah,
Speaker 4: like or like they would be like, don't mention Kim Kardashian,
Speaker 4: don't mention this or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, rework a few because of that. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 4: Just I don't know, I haven't kept up with it
Speaker 4: really because a lot of a lot of our stuff
Speaker 4: is fan funded now. But it's just like I just
Speaker 4: remember getting a lot less fun, yeah, to do them
Speaker 4: because there were there were so much more guard rails
Speaker 4: on everything. They were, like I remember for Dollar Shave,
Speaker 4: Like I remember I asked them like one of the
Speaker 4: earliest ones that I did, I was so happy with
Speaker 4: it was like can I threaten to use these as
Speaker 4: a weapon and like attack my roommate with him? And
Speaker 4: they were like, yeah, sure those are I feel like
Speaker 4: there's and I feel like no shot. Would that be
Speaker 4: Like if I asked that like now or something for
Speaker 4: a similar company, I feel like.
Speaker 2: They'd be like, let's let's keep it. Let's keep it
Speaker 2: a little bit more relaxed. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing that annoyed me about all that stuff is
Speaker 1: they're concerned, you know, right, they want as many impressions
Speaker 1: for their product as possible, which doesn't always translate to sales.
Speaker 1: I think clever tactics is a way. It's way. It's
Speaker 1: more of like there are people that are going to
Speaker 1: so just because like, oh this was really dope, and
Speaker 1: I saw it even when I would because I'm I'm
Speaker 1: one of the rare people that actually h played it
Speaker 1: was my first gotcha game. Ray Shadow Legends was well.
Speaker 1: I was like one of the only people that was like,
Speaker 1: all right, what the fuck is this about? I love
Speaker 1: turn based RPGs, I love dark fantasy. And then I
Speaker 1: actually I was like, everything outside of the predatory gotcha
Speaker 1: shit is actually pretty cool. And I was getting advertisements
Speaker 1: from them but actually playing the game. And then after
Speaker 1: a while they were like, well, we want you to
Speaker 1: do very specific stuff and blah blah this and that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, I guarantee you since I'm
Speaker 1: actually playing this fucking game, I can get people in
Speaker 1: this game and they'll stay so the retention will be there.
Speaker 1: But they were like, well, no, we want to just
Speaker 1: they basically it didn't work. And then after a while
Speaker 1: they kind of like moved on to people that had
Speaker 1: like way larger and that don't play the game at all,
Speaker 1: like you know, collabbing with mister not mister Beisa Ninja and.
Speaker 2: Shit like that.
Speaker 1: My point being that one of my favorite ad reads
Speaker 1: would be I listened to the Cumtown podcast and it
Speaker 1: was a disaster every time they would read it. But
Speaker 1: the they got like the green light because people started
Speaker 1: actually listening to the entire ads.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, they don't they don't know what works.
Speaker 4: There's still like a lot of a lot of companies,
Speaker 4: Like I remember like that there was a famous norm
Speaker 4: like nor McDonald used to have a podcast and he
Speaker 4: did these like ads from this like grill great that
Speaker 4: would go over your grill. They're called the mangreat and
Speaker 4: he just shad all over it and they loved it,
Speaker 4: Like the audience loved it. They would actually like I
Speaker 4: guarantee you that that ad sold way more man grads
Speaker 4: than whatever, like like an authentic like I remember some
Speaker 4: company would ask me. He's like, can you say exactly
Speaker 4: what the percentage of money they're saving is?
Speaker 2: Like they don't care about that shit.
Speaker 3: Man just don't want to be fed stuff in like
Speaker 3: a boring, right like detached sort of way where it's
Speaker 3: like whatever creator they're watching feels like they're not being
Speaker 3: genuine or honest, and if you're putting effort into like
Speaker 3: ad reads and stuff. People can feel that they can
Speaker 3: kind of feel the authenticity. I always fight for that
Speaker 3: whenever I do like sponsorships and stuff, and most of
Speaker 3: them are are pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah good, yeah, yeah, it's dude, Maybe it's turned around
Speaker 4: a little bit because I remember getting.
Speaker 2: Like weirdly strict.
Speaker 1: I think I don't think it's I think it's I
Speaker 1: think I technically think it's worse because I still see
Speaker 1: that there's the you got to put it a few
Speaker 1: minutes usually now a minute after because I would always
Speaker 1: put mine in the front. Just get out of the way,
Speaker 1: right yet out of the way. This is this what's up?
Speaker 1: And now I feel like it's getting so bad that
Speaker 1: YouTube implemented a jump ahead button. It's now that's right. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's that's like devastating for advertisers, which I don't
Speaker 1: give a shit personally, but you know, it's it's actually
Speaker 1: a pretty great tool.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is fucking sweet.
Speaker 3: Well, it's gotta it's gotta be. Viewership has to be
Speaker 3: in the hands of the viewer, right, and so like
Speaker 3: there are times when I when I would put like
Speaker 3: time stamps and I would mark the sponsorship and the
Speaker 3: ad read and I would do that, and sometimes sponsors
Speaker 3: would be like, hey, can you take that out? It
Speaker 3: makes it too easy to skip it.
Speaker 2: I've had people do that to me.
Speaker 1: But I would keep it.
Speaker 3: Like that for about like twelve hours, because you know,
Speaker 3: I post a video, I got the sponsor done, I'm
Speaker 3: all good. I can fuck off and do real life stuff.
Speaker 3: So I would kind of I would just kind of
Speaker 3: like wait until a good chunk of my audience could watch,
Speaker 3: and then I would Yeah, I get rid of it
Speaker 3: because you know they asked me too.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, man, I definitely have you been I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys been paying attention to you.
Speaker 1: I've been paying attention to YouTube a lot more because
Speaker 1: I was interested in experimenting and getting back into it,
Speaker 1: because you know, since we do the podcast, that's that's
Speaker 1: my job. I abandoned YouTube essentially, but I'm now doing
Speaker 1: some stuff. One thing in particular. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys noticed this, but there are a bunch of
Speaker 1: we talked about this on the podcast before. There's a
Speaker 1: bunch of channels just popping up and there there. It's
Speaker 1: on the political side, where it's just a first name,
Speaker 1: last name, and they have a profile that looks like
Speaker 1: a LinkedIn avatar and they're getting a stupid amount of views,
Speaker 1: and I'm very curious, like why is this happening and
Speaker 1: if it is purely algorithmically like uh responsible, So I
Speaker 1: started my own where like it's like Rick Blackman and
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a button up in a tie and I
Speaker 1: just I just posted like a couple of videos on it,
Speaker 1: and I'm experimenting right now, but I'm starting to see
Speaker 1: these weird shifts that are happening. And then a plethor
Speaker 1: of history channels that are just AI, but a lot
Speaker 1: of people are too stupid to notice. So the voice
Speaker 1: sounds real and it's fucking crazy, man, Like the AI
Speaker 1: shit is so egregious, Like I can't even I don't
Speaker 1: even know what the hell I was.
Speaker 4: I think I was like trying to look up, Oh
Speaker 4: my I was. It was because I was playing through
Speaker 4: Medal Gear Solid Delta again. I was like trying to
Speaker 4: beat it with like no, what is it? No no
Speaker 4: kills or something. There's like some non lethal playthrough of
Speaker 4: MDS Delta. Basically I was trying, yeah, pacifist run metal gear,
Speaker 4: which sounds insane, but because you could just tranquilize people
Speaker 4: and like they'll fall into the oak, they'll fall into
Speaker 4: like a river and clearly drown, and.
Speaker 2: It just like it doesn't count. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3: You only shout the tranquilizer. Everything after that was nature
Speaker 3: taking its course.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's God and gravity.
Speaker 2: There's nothing nothing else, it's not you. You can also shoot
Speaker 2: the explosive barrels and it also doesn't really. Yeah. I
Speaker 2: found that out kind of kind of reasonibly, and I
Speaker 2: was just like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: But I was looking up because I was trying to
Speaker 4: find those fucking collectibles because they're like they're unreasonably hidden
Speaker 4: in that game. And I'm just like I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: I'm not looking for these normally, like you can't. You
Speaker 4: can't make me do this. And so I looked up
Speaker 4: like some tutorial video or whatever, and it's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: here it is, and it's just clearly an AI.
Speaker 2: It's clearly an AI.
Speaker 3: Thing just sold the tutorial from someone who actually wrote
Speaker 3: it and repurposed it.
Speaker 2: It's you been up.
Speaker 3: I just I posted a video on my second channel
Speaker 3: like yesterday. I just titled it AIS finally saved gaming
Speaker 3: because Microsoft announced like Microsoft Gaming Copilot and in this,
Speaker 3: in this article they posted, it was basically just like
Speaker 3: instead of looking up a guide online of someone who's
Speaker 3: showing you how to get past this or how to
Speaker 3: fix this glitch or how to get this achievement, it's like, uh.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Siri, can you show me my achievements?
Speaker 3: And it's like, but dog, you can already just look
Speaker 3: at your achievements. Just press like three buttons. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like too many buttons. Man.
Speaker 3: It's like everything everything they talked about in this like oh,
Speaker 3: what the Gaming Copilot can do for you? It's either
Speaker 3: like summarizing someone else's work or providing a solution for
Speaker 3: something that you can just do way easier, like manually.
Speaker 2: Anything to avoid interacting with the thing that you bought.
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: It's just like people. I mean, like, yeah, what's the alternative? Oh,
Speaker 3: you would go to some gaming website and you would
Speaker 3: read someone's article and generate like a click for them
Speaker 3: on there. You would generate traffic there, or you would
Speaker 3: God forbid you you watch some guy who does like
Speaker 3: funny playthroughs or guides or something right, and maybe you
Speaker 3: leave a like on his video. No no, no, just
Speaker 3: cut out the middle man. It's all robots now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it. It's great. What gave it away is
Speaker 2: because the guy kept talking about code Jim. Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I just remember being like, oh my god, Jim fucking
Speaker 2: Ai dude. No one in the no one in the
Speaker 2: world would say code Jim. Kid. Just experienced that last
Speaker 2: night exactly. That's exactly what I was thinking last night.
Speaker 1: I just experienced that. But it was it was m
Speaker 1: It was an MMA channel. It was like, it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be some mm a history channel, and then like
Speaker 1: this this video about the this movie about the Smashing Machine,
Speaker 1: the rock the rock Player is playing them and it's
Speaker 1: coming out pretty soon, so people are making videos about that,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, a documentary about about dude.
Speaker 1: I want to watch it. And then it sounds like
Speaker 1: a real fucking person right, very breathy and shit. But
Speaker 1: then every single name was pronounced weird, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? And I saw the channel
Speaker 1: has only been around for like three months, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: fucking hell, dude, they gotcha, they got me. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is crazy, And I supported this bitch by watching
Speaker 1: like a goodn like ten minutes or something of it
Speaker 1: until I was like, okay, I can forgive like one
Speaker 1: or two names, but it was fucking every name that
Speaker 1: was like not English, which is you know, Like I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, most yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I was just like fuck this man, it's rough. Dude,
Speaker 2: I don't even know.
Speaker 4: I don't even know how you navigate AI stuff because
Speaker 4: it's just like I never thought in a million years
Speaker 4: I would miss like the dude who like, Okay, here's
Speaker 4: a game tutorial, here's how to do this, and it's
Speaker 4: like a fucking horrible.
Speaker 2: Webcam pointed at the TV.
Speaker 4: Oh like that, and it's some guy with like a
Speaker 4: vaguely Indian accent but not quite and he's like really
Speaker 4: poorly explaining it. I never thought in a million years
Speaker 4: I would miss that. In comparison to this, it's like
Speaker 4: top ten Codejimma games, oh no, number ten Metal Gear.
Speaker 3: Well, I think I think people enjoy imperfections, yeah, right,
Speaker 3: because it's more it's more relatable, but not the type
Speaker 3: of imperfections where it's like Codejimma, where it's like you
Speaker 3: can't you can't really understand the reason why that would
Speaker 3: be messed up on whereas where if it's like if
Speaker 3: it's like some three sixty P like shitty pre Elgado
Speaker 3: gameplay tutorial or like Gears of War tips and tricks
Speaker 3: or something, and it's just the worst fucking quality. You
Speaker 3: can barely tell what you're looking at, Like like you
Speaker 3: get the sense someone made that and for a time
Speaker 3: it was more useful and now it's it's uses like
Speaker 3: looking back and being like, oh man, those were different times.
Speaker 2: Yeaheah, back when, back when people were well, back when
Speaker 2: the majority of the Internet wasn't robots, I guess, because
Speaker 2: that's I'm pretty sure that's the case now, Like I'm
Speaker 2: almost in fact, I'm almost one hundred percent certain that,
Speaker 2: Like I'm pretty sure over fifty percent of Internet users
Speaker 2: are just completely.
Speaker 3: On Twitter now or bots something like that.
Speaker 2: I believe it, dude.
Speaker 4: My message requests are ridiculous, yoh, Like especially every second
Speaker 4: there's like a new like tons, it's it's almost like
Speaker 4: climbing the fucking ladder and MGS three where it's just
Speaker 4: like how much longer could this possibly go on?
Speaker 1: How the song have you got getting any of the
Speaker 1: the it's women like they're obviously they're bots, but they're
Speaker 1: actually acting. There have some human characteristics like spelling errors
Speaker 1: and shit. I don't know if you've experienced that. So
Speaker 1: because I turned my inbox off because of all of
Speaker 1: the bots and shit I was getting in all the
Speaker 1: Korean language and weird shit I was getting, I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, this is enough, because every once in a while,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, there might be a listener re
Speaker 1: viewer that sends something interesting, because that would happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to check it for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that would happen. Okay, no, perfect, and
Speaker 1: like uh yeah, so it's it's fucked. But now if
Speaker 1: they have a check mark, which these bots are getting
Speaker 1: these check marks so they can you can message anybody
Speaker 1: even if it's turned off. So I've been getting a handful.
Speaker 1: Every once in a while they'll say something like oh
Speaker 1: remember me type of a thing, and then they'll use
Speaker 1: like a spelling error and they'll be.
Speaker 2: Like a correction with the asterisk and shit.
Speaker 1: So it seems really personable and real, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: lonely men are fucked.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, fucked. So I just checked mine.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The funny thing is because of my my name is
Speaker 3: the act man yeah, they'll think my first name is
Speaker 3: the Yeah, it's so the.
Speaker 1: You into Asian girls?
Speaker 2: Is it okay?
Speaker 1: If I message you the the?
Speaker 4: I think I think we have that on this sartank
Speaker 4: Twitter page. I think like if if you check the
Speaker 4: messages on.
Speaker 2: The probably I have to check the d ms on there,
Speaker 2: that that'd be.
Speaker 1: That'd be pretty good. Really respect what you're doing, are
Speaker 1: you labs? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I love those. I love those emails, the one where
Speaker 2: it's just like, we love your content about insert like
Speaker 2: vague thing here that you talked about.
Speaker 3: We just love what you're doing. Yeah, it's very interesting,
Speaker 3: right like cause, I mean we talked about it a
Speaker 3: little bit before we were recording, but we all kind
Speaker 3: of been around a long time relative to YouTube years.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys watched tears Zoo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he posted every now and again.
Speaker 3: He posted a video on like this new channel zer
Speaker 3: two and it was like and I think the title
Speaker 3: was something like the average YouTube career is nine years.
Speaker 3: And that got me thinking about like my own mortality
Speaker 3: and like how interests change and shift and how you
Speaker 3: kind of like adapt or die and sometimes it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: but these old fundamentals that I had that worked for
Speaker 3: so long. Well, I can't abandon those or you know,
Speaker 3: I gotta stick with what works. But it's it's just
Speaker 3: kind of interesting having to think about, oh, how to
Speaker 3: I actually do have to try and adapt. I can't
Speaker 3: you know, can't get so full myself that I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh no, I got this game figured out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't rest on your laurels if you want to,
Speaker 4: especially if you want to do the same if you
Speaker 4: want to keep the same kind of thing going. You know,
Speaker 4: like it's, uh, when did you When did your channel start?
Speaker 3: So I made the channel in like twenty thirteen, but
Speaker 3: I posted my first video in twenty fifteen. But then
Speaker 3: I took like a I was like working, so I
Speaker 3: was I was in college and I was doing like
Speaker 3: video production editing classes, and I was just kind of
Speaker 3: feeling it out before I really started putting stuff out there.
Speaker 3: It wasn't until twenty sixteen where I made like a
Speaker 3: solid push. I think.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I remember getting like a little over a thousand subs
Speaker 3: in two months.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, I made it.
Speaker 3: And then I checked checked my analytics. After I got
Speaker 3: my my channel monetized, and the first day guess how
Speaker 3: much money I made the first day I was monetized.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1: I would say three dollars.
Speaker 3: Okay, we got three dollars, Chris.
Speaker 4: No, because they don't they wouldn't pay you unless you
Speaker 4: made over one hundred. So like I feel like, oh.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no, not not the paycheck. How
Speaker 3: much the channel made just the first I was monetized.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wouldn't even be able to act.
Speaker 2: Now I'm just success six cents all right?
Speaker 3: And I was I was like, this is actually gonna
Speaker 3: like it was the tiniest little bit, but the potential
Speaker 3: was there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was That was me in like
Speaker 4: twenty I think thirteen, before I was even posting really,
Speaker 4: I was just posting frequently. It was a bunch of garbage.
Speaker 4: But like I saw like I had like six dollars
Speaker 4: or something. I was like, ooh, I can't get that
Speaker 4: six dollars until it gets to one hundred or whatever,
Speaker 4: because I think that's what it used to be. Like
Speaker 4: add since I think I don't know if it's still
Speaker 4: imagine it's still the same. But yeah, dude, like I
Speaker 4: I that's so funny. Because if you if you started
Speaker 4: really pushing it twenty fifteen, I for sure saw like
Speaker 4: your earliest stuff, like at.
Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen, I had like, like, if I checked my videos,
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure the very first video I did was
Speaker 3: June twenty fifteen, and then I wouldn't start like really posting.
Speaker 3: I mean I posted like some Halo five funny clip shit,
Speaker 3: like just trying it out, and uh.
Speaker 4: What's the I'm I'm certain the first thing I saw
Speaker 4: of yours was you viscerating Halo five.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was fairly certain.
Speaker 3: There was a few few of those videos, and then
Speaker 3: I think I kind of I remember I tapped the
Speaker 3: well dry sort of uh not, because I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is what's getting views and all that, but it.
Speaker 2: Was like you said all you had to say.
Speaker 3: I said all I had to say, and then I
Speaker 3: was thinking to myself, I was like, dude, I don't
Speaker 3: want to just be the guy who complains about Halo channel, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like there's so many other creators that get
Speaker 3: started as guy who complains about things and and then
Speaker 3: that becomes their whole stick and they never like break
Speaker 3: out of that.
Speaker 4: There issue is a lot of people at that point.
Speaker 4: I think I feel like people don't understand what happens
Speaker 4: where Like I think if you make a career out
Speaker 4: of like complaining about things or just however you want
Speaker 4: to put it, You're going to find things to complain
Speaker 4: about everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like because you have to.
Speaker 2: You have to because you have to.
Speaker 4: There's like a financial like imperative that like I have
Speaker 4: to find something.
Speaker 2: When I started this.
Speaker 3: Sort of gimmick that channels like angry or angry video
Speaker 3: game nerder, I hate everything, or your movie sucks like
Speaker 3: this is this is besides those types of where the
Speaker 3: creative focus is on this I hate something. But it's
Speaker 3: it's much more than just that. Yeah, yeah, I'm talking
Speaker 3: about like the day, like the daily.
Speaker 4: Like the thing to me is like where people would
Speaker 4: like on a daily basis, they would have like five
Speaker 4: videos about new things to complain about. I'm like, I
Speaker 4: don't I don't even understand. I don't have that many
Speaker 4: opinions about anything.
Speaker 1: Right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like how are you? How are you finding a way?
Speaker 4: Because I have I have a lot of opinions, but
Speaker 4: they could be a tweet, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: They could be like two sentences. They're not gonna they
Speaker 4: don't need to be like ten minute and one second video, right,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The way that I circumvented that was I started I
Speaker 1: started Twitter trash series and but it was fun though,
Speaker 1: because there's there's never a shortage of people saying dumb shit,
Speaker 1: and it was just making fun of that. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't in the way of I need, Oh, this is popular,
Speaker 1: how can I shut on it? Because I just I
Speaker 1: never wanted to do that personally. And I remember seeing
Speaker 1: the uh those there was the communities that I was
Speaker 1: kind of rolling with that were just bitching about things
Speaker 1: that were actually annoying, and then people who were just
Speaker 1: grifting and I started to see them converge and that
Speaker 1: was when I was like, I'm fucking out of here.
Speaker 1: Uh one of them verged in coalesce.
Speaker 2: Yeah, d the Great convergence we call it. It was
Speaker 2: fucking trash.
Speaker 1: I remember. The biggest thing for me was there was
Speaker 1: two big things. The first beat was people complaining about
Speaker 1: Batwoman on c W, and I was like, bro, I
Speaker 1: don't who the fuck was, Like, no one watched a
Speaker 1: c W show like all these brown ass man. I'm like,
Speaker 1: we don't watch I don't. This isn't for me, This
Speaker 1: for fucking twelve year olds. There's a the CW had
Speaker 1: like Supernatural, it had on I uh, I actually don't
Speaker 1: know Caucasian white, I don't know, dude, Hell yeah. It
Speaker 1: was just like but if you ever watched a neo
Speaker 1: CW shows, I mean, hey, more power to you. But like,
Speaker 1: as an older male, none of those shows appealed to me.
Speaker 1: Like Arrow was on there for a little bit and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's just kind of cool, but
Speaker 1: then it's settled into being it's like, oh love triangles
Speaker 1: and relationships ship that.
Speaker 2: I was like, it's like a.
Speaker 1: Drama, and they stopped choreographing. Really as much as it's
Speaker 1: like I know what this.
Speaker 2: Is, I need I need to ask this what happened
Speaker 2: because I don't I know you've seen it there?
Speaker 4: Oh, oh, I know what you're gonna ask. There's so
Speaker 4: there's an episode is it from It's f Flash?
Speaker 2: Just from the Flash?
Speaker 4: So have you, dude, have you seen the episode of
Speaker 4: or the clip from the episode of The Flash where
Speaker 4: Gorilla Grod goes back in time to kill Barack Obama
Speaker 4: in college.
Speaker 2: It doesn't even sound real whatever.
Speaker 3: Words, whatever sentence just came out of your mouth.
Speaker 2: I don't know, you're just with me, I swear to god.
Speaker 3: Is it something you can screen share or.
Speaker 2: I mean I could eve. I'll send you the link.
Speaker 2: I'll send it to you on discord. It is fucking great.
Speaker 4: Like that was a real like, that's that entire network
Speaker 4: was just kind of nonsense.
Speaker 2: It was wacky.
Speaker 1: It was wacky in general, and that's why there was
Speaker 1: young adult It was young adult TV for like and
Speaker 1: to find all of those people that you know that
Speaker 1: are even around my age. I'm thirty seven, so back then,
Speaker 1: right early thirties or whatever the fuck people complaining about
Speaker 1: Batwoman was like, nigga, you're not gonna watch one second
Speaker 1: of this. Why are you complaining about it?
Speaker 2: I know you're not gonna watch it.
Speaker 3: And its like most people when you watch or play
Speaker 3: something that you really just don't like, like you just
Speaker 3: like that's the end of it. Man, this wasn't for me.
Speaker 3: I'm moving on. But there's a whole there's there's like
Speaker 3: rage bait farms.
Speaker 4: You know, the rage bait is is what like, because
Speaker 4: I even empathize with people finding something that they watch
Speaker 4: that they hate so much that they want to talk
Speaker 4: about in extensive.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, but that one.
Speaker 2: But look to have that, oh dude, exactly, I can't
Speaker 2: even begin, but yes, but to have one of those
Speaker 2: every week many, that's the thing to me.
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know, man, that seems like a
Speaker 4: miserable Yeah, it seems like a miserable existence.
Speaker 2: It's got to be.
Speaker 1: It's got to be. It is why a lot of
Speaker 1: those people are a lot of them are falling off.
Speaker 1: And you know, interesting enough that we're talking to you
Speaker 1: right now. I think the catalyst for the downfall was
Speaker 1: legitimately that Andy Pant's gaming guy, like he was the
Speaker 1: It was too inauthentic to where people like, all right, dude,
Speaker 1: this is enough, is it not?
Speaker 2: I gotta know something about that. I sent you the
Speaker 2: clip by the way of girl versus. The name of
Speaker 2: this video is insane because it's not even a lie.
Speaker 2: It's Gorilla Grod versus Baracko. But it's not. But it's
Speaker 2: not clickbait or ses dude, it's sucking same.
Speaker 4: But but no, so that Andy Pants gaming guy is
Speaker 4: that a real guy?
Speaker 2: I still don't know what to make of that.
Speaker 3: No, he's not real right. No, well, so here's here's
Speaker 3: the thing. Me, me and a couple other guys. We
Speaker 3: did some investigative research. Now I hadn't planned to do
Speaker 3: like a big exposed video, but it like ballooned in scope,
Speaker 3: and it was one of those things where it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I've done a bunch of work on it, I'll get
Speaker 3: back to it. I got to focus on something else.
Speaker 3: I need to get something up on the main channel.
Speaker 3: Then I never really got back to it. Things kind I.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't I wouldn't know anything about that.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, exactly. But like my goal was to
Speaker 3: basically expose him as you know, the fraud that he
Speaker 3: was and that he didn't really believe any of the
Speaker 3: ship that he was saying. Here's all the evidence, right,
Speaker 3: because you know, he was like shitting on me for
Speaker 3: being a corporate chill. But if you go to his
Speaker 3: Xbox channel, legit like two hundred community posts on his
Speaker 3: on his channel praising Starfield every single day, a new
Speaker 3: community post. And when I brought this up in the debate,
Speaker 3: went back to his channel, all deleted, all all deleted. No, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: there's so much war. But I think it was like
Speaker 3: I thought this guy was satirical at first, or that
Speaker 3: he was like being a caricature of parody, because you know,
Speaker 3: he's he was saying, I was a gay, woke communist
Speaker 3: who's being paid off by the satanic pedophiles that run Activision,
Speaker 3: And it was just like it's too perfect. It's yeah,
Speaker 3: but the thing is, like, no, he What was interesting
Speaker 3: about him is he had older channels where he actually
Speaker 3: posted like real videos that were pretty decent, a bit
Speaker 3: lacking personality and charm, but just kind of like your
Speaker 3: your standard run of the mill video essays that were
Speaker 3: that were decent. And he tried skits and we found
Speaker 3: his old Facebook pages and you know, we found we
Speaker 3: basically mapped out his like content uh metamorphosis over time,
Speaker 3: and I think he just got so fed up with
Speaker 3: not being successful. He was like, well, what's what's the
Speaker 3: easiest way to gain an audience. I'll just say everything's
Speaker 3: gay and woke and and yeah literally, but yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that that debate was just like it's one thing
Speaker 3: if you if you have a legitimate criticism of someone,
Speaker 3: but like, like, there's enough about me to criticize that
Speaker 3: you don't have to make up a bunch of random bullshit.
Speaker 3: At least that's that's how I feel, and I still
Speaker 3: I still feel that. Uh, I still believe the idea
Speaker 3: that we should all be able to hate each other
Speaker 3: and coexist on here, right because we're all entertainers at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, Like why you gotta take
Speaker 3: shit so seriously?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean that because I remember, like when
Speaker 4: I first saw him and I was just like, this
Speaker 4: can't be real, Like it's just like because it's just it.
Speaker 4: It's so perfectly like the formula is like it's exactly
Speaker 4: what I would do, like if I just didn't care.
Speaker 2: We actually did we? We went did you we? A
Speaker 2: couple of months ago, maybe it was a year ago.
Speaker 2: At this point, we made like kind of grifting channels,
Speaker 2: like fake ones just to see and I posted a video.
Speaker 2: I can't remember what the fucking video was about that
Speaker 2: I posted. I don't think it was Concord. It was something.
Speaker 2: It was something like that.
Speaker 1: It was around the uh when the Veil Guard came out,
Speaker 1: because I remember that's when I.
Speaker 4: Oh, it was veil Guards, That's right, it was, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was the Veil Guard. It was talking about the
Speaker 4: Canari and how they made him woke. And gain and
Speaker 4: I got completely new channel completely like no se o
Speaker 4: or nothing, twenty thousand views in like.
Speaker 2: A day or something, and it was just like, it's
Speaker 2: so funny. And I deleted it like a couple of months.
Speaker 2: I think, I really like two months, yeah, because I
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna keep up with it, like it's insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was just like, man, yeah, but it's insane that
Speaker 2: it worked.
Speaker 3: I did have I did have a pretty funny video
Speaker 3: idea where it would be like it'd be like a
Speaker 3: satirical top ten uh uh woke games, woke games list
Speaker 3: or top ten anti woke games or something like that.
Speaker 3: But the idea would be to just like take take
Speaker 3: games and then rename them and then come up with
Speaker 3: a premise for them, so like like Galow Gender Evolved,
Speaker 3: ah titles, Liberal Watch too, There we go, Leftists may cry?
Speaker 2: Okay, I leftist for Dead? I thought that Batman Progressive Asylum.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Metal Dick Solid four, Cooks of the Patriots.
Speaker 2: All right, there you go? Nice? The Epstein Scrolls for Oblivion,
Speaker 2: I play they play that dude, yo, that is.
Speaker 3: And then instead of instead of the Dead Space remake,
Speaker 3: it'd be a safe Space remake.
Speaker 2: Okay, Safe spaces, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the whole premise of the Safe Space remake,
Speaker 3: of course, is you play as Isaac Clark, a non
Speaker 3: binary engineer who's trying to find a gender gender neutral
Speaker 3: bathroom amidst the usg Ishimura, which is which is filled
Speaker 3: with h white supremacists.
Speaker 4: And you know, yeah, which is which is cultural appropriation
Speaker 4: of course, because it.
Speaker 3: Is you see where it could go with this video concept,
Speaker 3: you can just fucking yeah.
Speaker 5: I love I love that idea because it's just because
Speaker 5: those are all absolutely real things that people have said,
Speaker 5: Like that's what's like, I'm sure safe space is what
Speaker 5: someone has called one.
Speaker 3: And then instead of gaos sex, we have gayest sex,
Speaker 3: gender divided.
Speaker 1: Gay as sex.
Speaker 2: Like that that's good, gay as X. Have you played
Speaker 2: the original X?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I haven't. I I've used some of the soundtracks and
Speaker 3: as background music and videos because I don't know how
Speaker 3: how you guys do background music and videos. But there's
Speaker 3: like you have like your handful of songs where you're like, Okay,
Speaker 3: if I don't know what to put here, these tracks
Speaker 3: will work no matter what is being said. And there's
Speaker 3: some of those in Day of Sex.
Speaker 2: But dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, DAACs has a great I only started. I played
Speaker 4: it for the first time, like I think a couple
Speaker 4: months ago, and I fucking loved it.
Speaker 2: The first one I couldn't believe. I couldn't, Yeah, the
Speaker 2: first one I could.
Speaker 3: It has that like that really cool old school RPG
Speaker 3: charm that like Knights the Old Republic has or Fallout
Speaker 3: one in two where it's like the game doesn't really
Speaker 3: hold your hand and there's there's some hidden bullshit, or
Speaker 3: you can maybe fuck up your save file somehow in
Speaker 3: like irreparable ways by just choosing the wrong thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: If I was in a different mood on the day
Speaker 4: that I played it, like if I played it even
Speaker 4: like maybe a day earlier or a day later, there's
Speaker 4: a pretty good I might have even not liked it
Speaker 4: at all, but I was for some reason. I played
Speaker 4: and I was open to it. I didn't really know
Speaker 4: how to play the game until like three missions in
Speaker 4: and then it clicked.
Speaker 2: But it's just like it's a good ass fucking video game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's just that the unat COO theme, if
Speaker 3: you list echoes, you listen to the unat Coode theme,
Speaker 3: it's so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's good. I think I wanted.
Speaker 4: I think the idea that I would have almost about
Speaker 4: like that video is like I wonder if there's a
Speaker 4: way to make it so like you could read because
Speaker 4: it is so what is considered you know, woke or
Speaker 4: sexist or whatever. It's so nebulous at this point that
Speaker 4: like I almost wonder if you could take certain games
Speaker 4: that like, yes, like if you could make dead Space
Speaker 4: sound like a like a browie like you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, like the exact opposite of like, oh, there's
Speaker 4: no genderuture.
Speaker 1: I feel like you could. You could spin it either way.
Speaker 3: Right, you don't say, yeah, spa Safe Space remake, but
Speaker 3: you're the you're the one Chud who's fighting off all
Speaker 3: these deformed trans people right.
Speaker 2: Right right they are literally trans people technically they have transformed.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Or or you could be the lone a
Speaker 3: trans person or whatever, non binary trying to find the bathroom. Right,
Speaker 3: you could spin it whichever way Epstein scrolls.
Speaker 2: Right, that's that's a hard one to spin.
Speaker 3: There's a way, right, you become part of the Thieves
Speaker 3: Guild as you try to track down the Epstein scrolls
Speaker 3: to expose urial septum.
Speaker 4: Ural septums absolutely on that on those laws. Like the
Speaker 4: second you beat him for the first time and he's
Speaker 4: got he clearly looks like a demon. I'll never forget
Speaker 4: like that zoom in the first time I played the
Speaker 4: LILIVI in a long ass time. It made me put
Speaker 4: the game down for twenty years.
Speaker 2: But what I never played. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 3: When did you play it?
Speaker 4: I played it like maybe two thousand and six at
Speaker 4: like my cousin's house, and he he just got it
Speaker 4: and he was like, check this out, and he handed
Speaker 4: me the controller because he wanted he wanted to show.
Speaker 2: It to me.
Speaker 4: And I did that first section. It zoomed in on
Speaker 4: fucking Emperor Uriel's face and he looks so.
Speaker 2: Fun and you're like, nope that. I was like, I
Speaker 2: can't crazy, I can't do this. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could.
Speaker 3: Raise the opinion. I mean, granted, yeah, even back then,
Speaker 3: it kind of looked bad, like but you go outside.
Speaker 3: I remember I have this just vivid memory of going
Speaker 3: to a buddy's house in my neighborhood when I was
Speaker 3: growing up. He was a year older and he got
Speaker 3: the three sixty before anyone else. And I remember seeing
Speaker 3: Oblivion for the first time because I played Moro Wind
Speaker 3: and more Wind's even more scuffed. Oh sure, and then
Speaker 3: you see Oblivion and it's like what there's like there's
Speaker 3: like a marker where you're telling you where you're supposed
Speaker 3: to go. You don't just run around like a dip
Speaker 3: shit and the graphics all. I remember looking at Oblivion
Speaker 3: for the first time being like, this is this all comparatively?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: You guys ever have that moment Like I had another
Speaker 3: moment like that in Halo two. There's like just that
Speaker 3: moment where you your brain is like, I gotta remember this,
Speaker 3: this is this, I'm seeing something really cool. There's this
Speaker 3: exact shot in Halo two in the first mission when
Speaker 3: when Arbiter's being led out of the chamber and Truth
Speaker 3: is saying the weight of your hairsy will stay your feet,
Speaker 3: And there's this one shot where he's walking down away
Speaker 3: and there's he's flanked by two brutes and I just
Speaker 3: remember thinking that looks like a movie.
Speaker 2: Looks like a movie, dude, Yeah, no, I think, man,
Speaker 2: I'm sure the big one.
Speaker 4: The first time that I remember being shocked by what
Speaker 4: I was seeing and like by like I can't believe
Speaker 4: this is a video game? Was Fight Night in two
Speaker 4: thousand and five, Like that first Fight Night, it was
Speaker 4: like I can't believe how this fucking looks like this?
Speaker 2: Did you really play?
Speaker 4: Though I played it, I I liked it a lot, actually,
Speaker 4: but I didn't. I didn't get far into it because dude,
Speaker 4: well you saw you saw him again and you're like, nope, nope,
Speaker 4: not good, No, no, he.
Speaker 2: Looks way better now.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I do want to give
Speaker 4: I do want to give some context. I think, like
Speaker 4: back back in that time, specifically that And to be fair,
Speaker 4: this is true of me still to this day.
Speaker 2: I am. I'm really fixated on.
Speaker 4: Games that control well and like, like the game feel
Speaker 4: of something matters more to me than like story or
Speaker 4: really anything like everything else is a nice bonus, But
Speaker 4: I can I can cozy up with like a two
Speaker 4: D side scroller with no story at all and really
Speaker 4: love it.
Speaker 2: Like that's fine.
Speaker 4: But like when I at the time that I played Oblivion,
Speaker 4: I had already played like so many other first person
Speaker 4: games that felt so good in comparison. It was the
Speaker 4: same way I felt about Mass Effect one when I
Speaker 4: first played it in two thousand and six as well,
Speaker 4: where I was just like this is not or not
Speaker 4: two thousand and six, maybe like seven when.
Speaker 2: It came out. I don't remember that I played it.
Speaker 4: When I played a little bit of it when it
Speaker 4: came out, and I was like this, I I just
Speaker 4: played Gears of War, Dude, this feels like dog ass sure,
Speaker 4: and it ran it like and it ran it like
Speaker 4: twenty frames per second. I was like, I can't do it, man. So,
Speaker 4: like there were a lot of RPGs. I didn't get
Speaker 4: into RPGs until probably I think Fable two was maybe
Speaker 4: the first time that it like scratched, that I realized
Speaker 4: something was there that I liked. But then Skyrim was
Speaker 4: like the thing that kind of popped it open for me,
Speaker 4: and then I went back and played all those other things.
Speaker 2: The understanding, I didn't.
Speaker 4: Play the first Fable until after Fable two because I
Speaker 4: didn't have you know, I didn't really I didn't know
Speaker 4: what the fuck it was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you PlayStation guy growing up?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think so primarily like PS PS one,
Speaker 4: PS two for the for Budakai and you know, ten
Speaker 4: Kaichi and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Like I was all over that machine.
Speaker 3: Okay back then, Okay, I'll let it slide.
Speaker 4: But no, I just couldn't get into RPGs until until later,
Speaker 4: Like it clicked with me a lot later.
Speaker 1: My brother such a huge absolute nerd, so I got
Speaker 1: lucky that he's just like three years older than me,
Speaker 1: so he almost forced me to play whatever he was
Speaker 1: fucking playing. And I'm glad he did that because then
Speaker 1: it like, okay, he had he had like chrono trigger,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this is actually really cool.
Speaker 1: He gave me this one game Vagrant story that I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, this guy looks gay.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: But then when I started playing it, I was fascinated.
Speaker 1: And then uh when I got uh, when I finally
Speaker 1: played Fallout three and uh like the VAT system, I
Speaker 1: was like, dude, this is like fucking vagrant story. It
Speaker 1: was like so it felt so good like that, like
Speaker 1: somebody had like an idea where you can just hear
Speaker 1: target these points and shit, and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is I'm so fascinating with that shit. And that's how
Speaker 1: I like anything that's like that. I immediately gravitate towards it,
Speaker 1: and even if it's shit I'll still kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll give it a try, and fast forwarding
Speaker 1: all the way to Exhibition thirty three, it's like, oh cool,
Speaker 1: we got like some sort of deep RPG with some
Speaker 1: turn base shit. I'm glad that a lot of people
Speaker 1: like that, man, because it's one of my favorite genres
Speaker 1: of like just anything that's remotely close to that.
Speaker 3: Any RPG that is like action oriented or not just
Speaker 3: entirely like turn based games can be fun, but I
Speaker 3: feel like you need you need something else, right, whether
Speaker 3: it's like fire Emblem where yes it's turn based, but
Speaker 3: there is like some math, some chance, some bit of strategy,
Speaker 3: and I love the whole like positioning and like you
Speaker 3: control an army sort of thing. Sure, stuff like that
Speaker 3: like paper Mario A thousand year Door is one of
Speaker 3: my personal favorites. So like the idea of RPG but
Speaker 3: with action commands, button prompts and and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: That's what. That's why a lot of my buddies were
Speaker 3: recommending Expedition thirty three because they were like.
Speaker 1: It's like kind of like paper Marios, Like, shut.
Speaker 3: The fuck, I got to see this.
Speaker 2: It's have you ever played a do you know? Sea
Speaker 2: of Stars.
Speaker 3: I feel like I've heard of it, but I don't
Speaker 3: think I'm familiar.
Speaker 4: With somewhat recent it's in the last like three, it's
Speaker 4: somewhat similar where there's like real time elements to this
Speaker 4: turn based comment. I'm like, this is, this is I
Speaker 4: was never into turn base at all. I always like
Speaker 4: wrote that shit off, and to be fair, like I
Speaker 4: still kind of do. Like, I'm just like, I just
Speaker 4: I want to play the game. I don't like the
Speaker 4: feeling of like in turn based games, it always feels
Speaker 4: like I'm telling a cool character to do something cool
Speaker 4: versus I'm the cool character doing a cool thing. Literally, Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's like a separation there for me that I'm just like,
Speaker 4: I can't quite get over it.
Speaker 2: But Expedition thirty three with that, like the pairing and
Speaker 2: shit's like this is.
Speaker 1: Exactly yeah, pairing and dodging. This is so fucking good,
Speaker 1: a lot more engaging. I get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I guess the way that I always.
Speaker 1: Thought of like turn Base was more of a well
Speaker 1: I get you know it's cliche to say, but like
Speaker 1: chess and uh that was yeah, my like it was
Speaker 1: just way like cause when I played chess, when I
Speaker 1: played back in the day, I'm like, this is kind
Speaker 1: of fucking boring versus now spicing it up with characters
Speaker 1: and interesting stuff and really just feeling getting a little
Speaker 1: rush of like a little hit of dopamine when I'm
Speaker 1: mapping out my attacks in advance of like, Okay, so
Speaker 1: here's the here's the situation. I need to do this
Speaker 1: to maximize the outcome, and then seeing it play out,
Speaker 1: and uh, there's like certain there's some games have prompts
Speaker 1: like they'll be like to have like a timer in
Speaker 1: the corner, and the timer will stop when the match
Speaker 1: is over, essentially, and if you haven't executed the move yet,
Speaker 1: and like you just you you execute the move and
Speaker 1: a few series play out still but the timer has stopped.
Speaker 1: You already know you finished, Like you're like, fuck, yeah,
Speaker 1: everything where the it being like some type of effect
Speaker 1: that like does like an app like a poison damage
Speaker 1: or something that like kills them eventually or something like
Speaker 1: mapping it out And it's just it's so satisfactory to
Speaker 1: have that domino effect and it's stuff like that, the
Speaker 1: payoff of those things. But yeah, I that is that
Speaker 1: is the right way to think about it. Probably, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I can I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't break I can't break out of that of
Speaker 4: just feeling you guys.
Speaker 3: Ever play a Divinity Original Sin too?
Speaker 1: No, I've been told to play that a bunch. I
Speaker 1: haven't played it.
Speaker 3: So so I didn't. I never beat Balder's Gate three.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I probably put less than like fifteen twenty
Speaker 3: hours into it because I think it just reminded me
Speaker 3: that I prefer to Vindie Original Sin two more. But
Speaker 3: that whole like domino effect and mapping it out what
Speaker 3: we're talking about, Oh my god, that game is. That
Speaker 3: game is so good because you can you can basically
Speaker 3: like combine elements. Like if there's you know, part of
Speaker 3: the map is wet and like an enemy is standing
Speaker 3: on it, you can call down like a thunderstorm and
Speaker 3: shock the water and if you run, you know, if
Speaker 3: you move past the water, you take damage. And it's
Speaker 3: like it's turn based, but you can map things out
Speaker 3: and your characters get multiple actions. Right. If there's like
Speaker 3: oil barrels, you can throw fireballs over there and explode
Speaker 3: and it just blasts all over the place. But some
Speaker 3: enemies regain health from fire and some take damage, like
Speaker 3: undead ened, He's heel from poison damage as opposed to
Speaker 3: you know, and they take damage from like healing spells.
Speaker 3: So all that shit is super cool. I would one
Speaker 3: hundred percent recommend that to anybody who's like an RPG fan.
Speaker 3: And it's also one last thing I'll say about it.
Speaker 3: It is one of the only games I've ever played
Speaker 3: that has a second person type narrative to it.
Speaker 2: Oh, what do you mean?
Speaker 3: So like your character. While there's conversations between you and
Speaker 3: other characters and your companions whatnot, the narrator is second person,
Speaker 3: so whenever he's describing like what your character is doing,
Speaker 3: there's a there's an element of imagination to it. It's
Speaker 3: like you walk into this cave and discover you know,
Speaker 3: you you smell death and decay, and then there's like
Speaker 3: there might be some weird mosquito lady. Like I remember
Speaker 3: this vivid part of the game where you walk into
Speaker 3: this and there's all these like dead black roses and
Speaker 3: some like she's like she might be hot, and she's
Speaker 3: like trying to seduce you, and uh and if you
Speaker 3: you let her, it's like she sticks her tongue in
Speaker 3: your mouth and you as you feel bugs like flying
Speaker 3: down your throat stinging you and then once the battle starts,
Speaker 3: you take like you take like poison damage or something
Speaker 3: so shit, like that's really cool.
Speaker 2: That is crazy. The first person I've I've talked to,
Speaker 2: like like me where I put about twenty hours in
Speaker 2: the ball Oft three and I liked it.
Speaker 4: I didn't have a bad time with it, but I
Speaker 4: just I didn't. I didn't continue for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 4: I know, I know, and I know by the way
Speaker 4: that there was unequivocally the game of the year that year,
Speaker 4: Like I understood, Like as I was playing, I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I understand why, this is why, this is why this
Speaker 4: would be the game.
Speaker 3: There's a certain kind of pressure to a game like that,
Speaker 3: where there's so many different options and so much chance,
Speaker 3: and you feel like you feel like you don't want
Speaker 3: to miss something, where you don't want to fuck it up,
Speaker 3: and that pressure of like, oh god, what if I
Speaker 3: make the wrong decision or I don't want to look
Speaker 3: up a guide or this is so complex and there's
Speaker 3: so much going on it can kind of turn you
Speaker 3: off a bit, even even though like I know someday
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back and play it, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 4: Uh, what do you think the game of the Year
Speaker 4: is this year? If you had to guess, I know,
Speaker 4: there's there's still time, there's still a lot. We're only
Speaker 4: in September, which actually is you know, it's it's deeper
Speaker 4: in the year than typical, but like, I mean, there's
Speaker 4: still stuff coming out.
Speaker 2: It feels like every goddamn week as far as what I've.
Speaker 3: Played, I mean, isn't it probably gonna be a toss
Speaker 3: up between uh, Silk Song and Expedition thirty three because
Speaker 3: it can't be night Rain. It can't be night Rain.
Speaker 2: It's gonna it's not gonna be that. It should not
Speaker 2: be that. Dude, I couldn't believe that shit. When they
Speaker 2: tried to pull with a shadow pull yeah, Shadow of
Speaker 2: the Earth Tree, I was like, you you can't that is? That?
Speaker 2: To me was so egregious. I couldn't believe that.
Speaker 1: It didn't it like didn't win anything.
Speaker 2: It didn't win anything. It was a complete waste of
Speaker 2: a slot. Not that it was like bad, obviously it's good,
Speaker 2: but like, when did we start doing this? Yeah? And anything?
Speaker 1: We were saying right like anything that you need another
Speaker 1: game to play it, like you need the Bass game
Speaker 1: to actually play it. It's not it's standalone.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 1: It's not standalone content, right Like I would would that
Speaker 1: I could excuse them like that, Let's say, oh, uh,
Speaker 1: what was that fucking that came from a far cry
Speaker 1: three Blood Dragon or whatever? Oh blood Dragon, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: something like that. I'll like, Okay, it's kind of its
Speaker 1: own thing. But this, I thought, that's just fucking silly.
Speaker 1: Like you can't even just go out and play it.
Speaker 1: You have to buy the fucking game first and then
Speaker 1: buy that ship. I'm like, it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean. Also, like I watched that uh that Xbox
Speaker 3: showcase a few months ago in the Outer Worlds too.
Speaker 1: That ship looked really good to me.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys saw that or what
Speaker 3: you think of it about it, but it kind of
Speaker 3: gave me kind of gave me Kotor two vibes in
Speaker 3: the sense of it's like an old school RPG and
Speaker 3: there's all these different like or fallout in some ways
Speaker 3: where like the that's one thing I love when you
Speaker 3: were your investments in a skill or an attribute payoff
Speaker 3: beyond just like making your character stronger. It's like new
Speaker 3: dialogue options open up and you know, yeah, or like
Speaker 3: if you're a complete dumbass and fallout. So it looks
Speaker 3: like they got they got that going on, which that
Speaker 3: might sneak in. But as far as like what I
Speaker 3: think will get Game of the Year, probably Expedition thirty three,
Speaker 3: and then I think they'll probably do like Silk Song
Speaker 3: Best Indie Game probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be my guest too, Like I expecish it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you finish it yet.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't, maybe like seven or eight hours into it.
Speaker 3: I need to know.
Speaker 4: But it's not that long of a game really, like
Speaker 4: it's it's it's very respectful of your time, I think,
Speaker 4: which is which was also something that I thought was
Speaker 4: so nice, just to be able to sit down and
Speaker 4: like get comfortable with an RPG and have it not
Speaker 4: be like my entire goddamn life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like one hundred hours dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The best thing about that, right is that you can
Speaker 1: become extremely ope without turning over every stone, right, because
Speaker 1: that a lot of times in RPG you kind of
Speaker 1: have to grind, grind pretty hard to get to that level.
Speaker 2: You don't.
Speaker 1: This is actually ug chance. Yeah, So I was like
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that I spent almost I
Speaker 1: think I think it was like forty hours or something,
Speaker 1: and I was doing retarded levels of damage.
Speaker 2: It's like a stupid but also one of.
Speaker 3: Those RPGs, uh, which is also like Mario, like Paper Mario.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys have ever played it,
Speaker 3: the second one a thousand years long time ago. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They have like this action command where if you're if
Speaker 3: you're really really good with timing, you can completely nullify
Speaker 3: the damage from most enemy attacks. And an Expedition thirty
Speaker 3: three has that as well, so if you there are
Speaker 3: some enemies, I tried fighting and they were like thirty
Speaker 3: levels higher than me, and I lasted like five or
Speaker 3: six turns just because I got so good at dodging,
Speaker 3: parrying and all that. But of course then eventually they
Speaker 3: one shot me. So I liked the idea of also
Speaker 3: being able to fight harder challenges earlier than you're supposed
Speaker 3: to or intended to, but just based on your skill alone,
Speaker 3: you can you can fight through.
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite things to do actually, in
Speaker 1: games where sometimes I'll waste way too much time.
Speaker 2: I the only this is.
Speaker 1: Sad, The only really fun thing that I remember doing
Speaker 1: in the Veil Guard because somebody bought it for me
Speaker 1: to review it. Otherwise I wasn't gonna fucking play it.
Speaker 1: There was a like you're in like the world between
Speaker 1: worlds where all these mirrors aren't shit, and there was
Speaker 1: like these guys that these big guys in their thrones
Speaker 1: they can fuck with and you I wasn't supposed to
Speaker 1: fight him yet, clearly, and I think I fought him
Speaker 1: for like thirty minutes almost just but.
Speaker 2: I actually beat it.
Speaker 1: But normally the fight would last like probably three minutes,
Speaker 1: three to four minutes if you were at the level
Speaker 1: you should be at. But I love doing I love
Speaker 1: wasting my time like that, literally, if I can actually
Speaker 1: beat this guy right now.
Speaker 3: And that was shooting the limits and doing what the
Speaker 3: game discourages you from doing but still allows you if
Speaker 3: you're good enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Silk Song. I don't know how to feel
Speaker 2: about quite yet.
Speaker 3: I don't played either.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was planning on maybe maybe streaming a little bit
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 4: It's it's very good, but like these runbacks, man, the
Speaker 4: run backs to the boss the bosses that you die at, man,
Speaker 4: Like I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, it's what do you want?
Speaker 4: I should get good, but I don't know, I don't
Speaker 4: know if I have the patience, Like I'm not like
Speaker 4: if I was twelve, Oh my god, if I was twelve,
Speaker 4: I would have been all over it.
Speaker 1: I feel like I was oiled by what was it, Cuphead,
Speaker 1: where like all the boss not like type shit, you
Speaker 1: just kind of there had a couple of levels, but
Speaker 1: then you just show up at the boss most like
Speaker 1: most of the content is just here's the boss, fuck
Speaker 1: it up. If you lose, you're right there. And I
Speaker 1: felt spoiled to where, oh man, I gotta go back
Speaker 1: to the boss. I gotta do all this bullshit again.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, it's it's it's rough.
Speaker 4: I'm I get that, I get what it does for
Speaker 4: the game, but it actually like it actively kind of
Speaker 4: like I don't know, it impedes it for me a
Speaker 4: little bit, just because like I like to I like,
Speaker 4: I don't mind dying in a boss fight over and
Speaker 4: over again, you know what I mean, Like that's fine,
Speaker 4: it'll be frustrating, but like I it's not hard to
Speaker 4: walk back to the boss. It's just kind of time consuming.
Speaker 4: So I kind of feel like I don't know if
Speaker 4: I'm I don't know if my time is necessarily being
Speaker 4: respected here. You know, It's just I'm not seeing new
Speaker 4: I'm not seeing anything new from the game and the
Speaker 4: time that I'm walking back to it. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: this really is just kind of a waste of time.
Speaker 4: I get, I get the you know, the punishment aspect
Speaker 4: of it, but like, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know that that is an interesting point because like I
Speaker 3: had another video I had, like a Shadow of the
Speaker 3: Ur Tree review planned, and I had it recorded and
Speaker 3: like half edited.
Speaker 1: Still have another video I got to go back to.
Speaker 2: But uh oh, yeah, didn't you not like it? I
Speaker 2: feel like I remember, I.
Speaker 3: Felt like it was very disappointing. It was very disappointing.
Speaker 3: The levels were incredibly boring and easy. The vast majority
Speaker 3: of content in the expansion was already recycled, you know,
Speaker 3: like you go, you go to this fucking sunken city
Speaker 3: and it's the same giant crabs from Dark Souls three.
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, man, you know, like like make
Speaker 3: a new crab, make a new crab. But yeah, but
Speaker 3: one of the things I noticed was Shadow of the Tree.
Speaker 3: It was it's all about the bosses. Like most of
Speaker 3: the levels are pretty although visually stunning, they they don't
Speaker 3: really play like anything in particular, so it's like there's
Speaker 3: there's a weird balance between something like Demon Souls where
Speaker 3: it's like the checkpoints are few and far between, and
Speaker 3: so they put a lot of effort into the level
Speaker 3: design kind of like you said, the runbacks can be
Speaker 3: a pain in the ass, but ultimately because the bosses
Speaker 3: and Demon Souls were less emphasized than the levels, the
Speaker 3: interesting content like from Demon Souls, compared to Shadow of
Speaker 3: the ur Tree is stretched out over the course of
Speaker 3: the levels, where a Shadow of the Archery it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm just running through this area to get to the
Speaker 3: next boss and then the bosses all that is like
Speaker 3: predominantly the interesting content, So it'd be interesting. Kind yeah,
Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to play Soak Song and see kind
Speaker 3: of like what the what the balance of that is
Speaker 3: and how much run backs end up bothering me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's I guess it's it's a preference thing,
Speaker 4: I guess, But like I also feel like that was
Speaker 4: one of the things that I felt about Shadow of
Speaker 4: the Archery too, where I was like I thought this
Speaker 4: was this is good.
Speaker 2: But like I'm not wowed by any of these environments
Speaker 2: in the same way that I was Bass elden Ring.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, where it just feels like everywhere I went
Speaker 4: in Base elden Ring, I was like I just couldn't
Speaker 4: believe what I was looking at, and I just I
Speaker 4: couldn't believe that there was more here, and.
Speaker 3: It played well. Right where Shadow of the Arth, I remember,
Speaker 3: there's there's there's this one like path towards like a church,
Speaker 3: and it's just all wolves from fucking Basic starting Limb Grave, right,
Speaker 3: it's just all wolves and then like one of those
Speaker 3: tall smelter demon things, and I'm just like, why are there?
Speaker 3: Why am I fighting Basic Limb Grave Limb Grave wolves
Speaker 3: in a brand new expansion? Why are why are these wolves?
Speaker 3: Get make a new wolf, make a new crab?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've one criticism that's actually been my
Speaker 1: main criticism of from software in general, is like the
Speaker 1: recycling of their content, even though like it's good, it's
Speaker 1: like really especially like in the you know, Dark Souls
Speaker 1: to elden Ring, where I'm like, all right, this is
Speaker 1: this is too even though like I said, I had fun,
Speaker 1: it's just also I always like to point out that
Speaker 1: if other companies were doing this for other games, people
Speaker 1: would be saying some stuff. So there's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a like a you give there's I wouldn't say favoritism,
Speaker 1: not that's not the word I'm looking for, but you'll
Speaker 1: you'll give people slack like if you really enjoy their product, right,
Speaker 1: you'll give them like I really enjoy what they're giving me.
Speaker 1: So they're doing certain things that I normally would maybe
Speaker 1: have a problem with, like say, you'll be sold people
Speaker 1: like they would never hear the end of it.
Speaker 4: They would never if they've made an Assassin's Creed night
Speaker 4: Rain where they just recycled a bunch of old ship
Speaker 4: and put it in an Oh my god, it would
Speaker 4: be insane. I remember, I remember the reaction to do
Speaker 4: you guys remember the reaction to when God of Moore
Speaker 4: Ragnarok had their UH. I think I can't remember it
Speaker 4: was like a big game play revealer, or if it
Speaker 4: was just like a teaser trailer that just showed some
Speaker 4: gameplay or whatever, but they had UH an animation of
Speaker 4: Krados with the boat pulling pulling the boat back in
Speaker 4: and they were like, I can't believe they re used
Speaker 4: the same fucking Credo's boat animation unplayable.
Speaker 3: I was looking forward to the new boat animation.
Speaker 2: Man, yeah, these are last generation boat physics. What are
Speaker 2: we doing?
Speaker 3: They fell off so hard. Yeah, I think from software
Speaker 3: it was up until Shadow of the Ur Tree where
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, you you get a pass on
Speaker 3: the recycling of like content or enemies. Elder Basse, Elden
Speaker 3: Ring did it a little too much where it's like
Speaker 3: there's almost no completely unique bosses, like like Mogue, you know,
Speaker 3: you can fight them twice. You can fight basically every
Speaker 3: boss except the Eldon Lord, Serpentine Radigan, yeah, and and Millennia.
Speaker 3: But Shadow of the Ur Tree like took it to
Speaker 3: a next level. Actually, I ended up running the numbers
Speaker 3: and it was like it was like seventy five percent
Speaker 3: of the bosses were either recycled, repeated, or reused because
Speaker 3: there's like eight ulcerated tree spirits in Shadow of the
Speaker 3: Urd Tree, you know, those giant fucking wood tree things,
Speaker 3: And it's like, bro, you already recycled that eight times
Speaker 3: in the base game, like make a new tree Spirit,
Speaker 3: make a new Tree Spirit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. The game of the Year is what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: Well, but like Night Rain, even though that's like recycling
Speaker 3: in a good way where I think it was forty bucks,
Speaker 3: so it's not brand new Yeah, sixty seventy dollars price tag.
Speaker 3: And also the concept is actually really really cool and
Speaker 3: it's a ton of fun with buddies, and I still
Speaker 3: wish there was more to it. But uh, Night Rain
Speaker 3: was kind of interesting because I know about you guys,
Speaker 3: but I've gotten to a certain point over the years
Speaker 3: where like, I'm very picky with the games. I invest
Speaker 3: timing and if I don't like something or if i
Speaker 3: feel like I'm not gonna like this, I kind of
Speaker 3: I dip out pretty early. Night Ran. The first couple
Speaker 3: of matches, I was like, eh, I'm not really The
Speaker 3: first boss was Morget Marget. You know why is the
Speaker 3: first boss Marget? Come on in? I don't know if
Speaker 3: I'm feeling this, but it was a strange outlier because
Speaker 3: the more I played it, the more I actually ended
Speaker 3: up having fun with it. Which games where I start
Speaker 3: playing them and I'm like, usually they I have less
Speaker 3: and less fun playing them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard good things about nightraight. I was just
Speaker 4: I think by the time Night Ring came out, I
Speaker 4: had already put like so many I put like nearly
Speaker 4: two hundred hours in Eldon Ring, and I was just like,
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm good, there's no Rings to Elden.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's like I think I'm good on frum Soft games
Speaker 4: for the next like probably four years before I'm ready
Speaker 4: to jump back into that shit again because I'm association.
Speaker 4: I don't like putting that much time into a single experience,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm having an issue with I'm having an issue with
Speaker 1: playing game even Like the reason why I haven't tried
Speaker 1: soilk song is my time right now. I'm very busy
Speaker 1: with other projects right now, and if I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get to play video games as much as
Speaker 1: I used to, and I don't want to. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about when I was in like twenty twelve, I
Speaker 1: was working and riding my bike back and forth and
Speaker 1: going to the gym. Mike day was completely booked, but
Speaker 1: I still somehow remember beating Mass Effect three and then
Speaker 1: beating all the the DLCs, like when the Citadel Part
Speaker 1: one and two came out, and I was thinking, how
Speaker 1: the fuck did I do that? Because where the hell's
Speaker 1: my time gone? Because I'm trying to beat stuff now
Speaker 1: and it's just not happening. Like like when I started
Speaker 1: playing the remastered Oblivion or the you know whatever, and
Speaker 1: I got pretty far, but at a certain point I
Speaker 1: was like, fuck, I gotta put this down because I'm
Speaker 1: not finishing it in time. And then there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of other shit keeps coming out, and uh, I don't
Speaker 1: know how.
Speaker 3: It's a game that you never really finish.
Speaker 1: I guess so oh good. I mean I guess that
Speaker 1: a lot of people did that with Skyral. You did
Speaker 1: that with Skyrol, did.
Speaker 2: You, Chris? Uh No? I think I beat Skyris when
Speaker 2: I yeah, I mean it took me a while, but.
Speaker 3: Like, well, beating the main campaign or something, Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: not beating the game, right. You still gotta do Maje's
Speaker 3: Guiled Thieves, Guiled Dark Brotherhood, Dark Brotherhood, and uh Oblivion.
Speaker 2: I wanted.
Speaker 4: I want to play more of Oblivion, but god damn
Speaker 4: does that game run like hot ass?
Speaker 3: I need to upgrade your specs.
Speaker 4: Brou No, man, fuck that Unreal Euented five is a mess,
Speaker 4: like I can't believe because that has I think the
Speaker 4: game has like a memory leak. Same thing that's happening
Speaker 4: with Borderlands right now. Oh, it's it's wonderful.
Speaker 2: What's frustrating about is that, like these are good games,
Speaker 2: due Blind four is actually like unreasonably good, Like it
Speaker 2: plays really.
Speaker 3: We CEO say some shit recently of like like don't
Speaker 3: like it. He said like that, don't like it, don't
Speaker 3: bite or yeah you might have to upgrade.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just get a instructions like if you need help
Speaker 4: on how to better optimize your PC, listen, our game
Speaker 4: is well optimized.
Speaker 2: It's probably your fucking fault. Uh.
Speaker 4: If every single one of you is having fucking problems
Speaker 4: running this game, it's your fault dot rs.
Speaker 2: Even though this is not happening with many many other games,
Speaker 2: it must be.
Speaker 1: Essentially, it's inane. It's just like horrible pr because this
Speaker 1: is like something that a your homie would tell you
Speaker 1: and you'd be like yeah, whatever, right, you would kind
Speaker 1: of brush it off. It's your homie. But it's like
Speaker 1: to see like somebody like this. It's like you can't bro,
Speaker 1: you have to learn how to speak, and so like if.
Speaker 3: Someone you're the CEO, man.
Speaker 1: It's like come on, do you can't I can tell Chris, Hey,
Speaker 1: maybe you should upgrade your hardware and he's like nah,
Speaker 1: and then Chris can reply like, no, I think I'm good.
Speaker 1: I think just the game fucking optimization sucks, dick. But
Speaker 1: like the CEO saying that to you is like, bro,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? This shouldn't even be a conversation right
Speaker 1: now with you, Like, I can't believe they allow him
Speaker 1: to speak. I can't believe they haven't muzzled him. Like
Speaker 1: he always does this.
Speaker 4: He always goes on Twitter and says some crazy I
Speaker 4: think it, like because I think Randy he said something
Speaker 4: maybe just a couple of months ago before they announced
Speaker 4: the price or something. I can't remember what the fuck
Speaker 4: it was, but like there was speculation about like borderlines
Speaker 4: being like eighty eighty dollars or something, and he just
Speaker 4: talked about like real fans would buy it. Oh yeah, right,
Speaker 4: And I remember, and I remember being like I remember
Speaker 4: reading his statements in context and being like, look, I
Speaker 4: know what you're trying to say, but you should not
Speaker 4: say this on.
Speaker 2: Twitter, dude. You shouldn't be saying this at all. I
Speaker 2: get what you're saying, Like, if you're.
Speaker 3: Like posting on Twitter at all to be honest, no.
Speaker 2: True, truthfully, yes, you should you should always avoid Twitter
Speaker 2: as much as possible.
Speaker 4: But like, I just remember being like, why would you
Speaker 4: write that? Because I can be mega charitable and understand,
Speaker 4: Like what he's saying is like, listen, if you are
Speaker 4: a big Borderland fan and you're into this series, you
Speaker 4: are going to pay eighty dollars because that's just like
Speaker 4: that's the standard. That's gonna be the price of something that,
Speaker 4: like I would I paid fucking I don't even want
Speaker 4: to think about how much I paid for like the
Speaker 4: legendary for like Halo Reach or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, like I.
Speaker 4: Pay out, I pay no, But I'm saying like I
Speaker 4: pay out the ass for shit that I like, Like
Speaker 4: I would pay. I would pay good money for like
Speaker 4: a complete inbox copy of like a game that I
Speaker 4: cared about, you know what I mean? That was just
Speaker 4: like I pay like I can think of a couple
Speaker 4: of games or i'd pay like I could, I would
Speaker 4: pay one hundred and fifty bucks for that. But like,
Speaker 4: if you say that shit on Twitter, you must understand
Speaker 4: how that's going to look, especially because you're a CEO.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard that's not necessarily the
Speaker 2: most popular thing to be.
Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah, and in this new era of cancel culture, so.
Speaker 2: It's right, So just like stop, like just shut the
Speaker 2: fuck up. Clearly your game is. But I want you.
Speaker 2: I want you to I want you guys to guess
Speaker 2: how many Timesporter Lens has crashed for me. I should
Speaker 2: take a fucking guess, or.
Speaker 3: Can I ask how many hours you have?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me check real quick. I think I have
Speaker 4: about I have twenty five hours in it.
Speaker 3: Twenty five I'd say, uh, thirty five thirty five crashes.
Speaker 1: That's generous. That's that's a lot of crashes.
Speaker 2: What what about you?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's crashed. I'm gonna say it's crashed
Speaker 1: ten times, twenty seven times.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was close.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: That's that is one crash. That is so Betty crashes.
Speaker 1: It's dude, that's like playing on what was a more
Speaker 1: than one hour you play or whatever you ever fucking use.
Speaker 2: Of as their watcher. Oh boy, brother, it's still.
Speaker 1: When I tried to play the fucking Shadows Like, it's
Speaker 1: still crashed, I was like, what the fuck man, you
Speaker 1: guys have figured this out yet.
Speaker 2: Crash for me?
Speaker 4: I tried to play fucking splinter Cell Blacklist recently because
Speaker 4: I was like, it was in my because I love
Speaker 4: splinter Cell and I haven't and they're never going to
Speaker 4: do anything. They're never going to make another one again.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, fuck it. And it was sitting in
Speaker 4: my Steam library. I was like, oh cool. I tried
Speaker 4: to launch it and it like had this I think
Speaker 4: they I think they severed you play or whatever from it.
Speaker 4: So now it just runs normally. But it that game
Speaker 4: runs for approximately three minutes before it falls apart. It
Speaker 4: is insane.
Speaker 3: Unmoded New Vegas might have you beat.
Speaker 2: There, that is. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I tried. I tried, dude. I want to tell you
Speaker 4: how many times people have told me, like, man, you
Speaker 4: got to play New Vegas. Got you would love New Vegas.
Speaker 4: And I believe listen, I believe them. I just wish
Speaker 4: the game would let me do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have yet to make a community comes in handy
Speaker 3: because they have. They have perfected the mod guide tutorial.
Speaker 3: I remember I watched like a ten to fifteen minute
Speaker 3: video pretty easy to get. It tells you all the
Speaker 3: all the fixes makes a game better than it you
Speaker 3: know was or is, and for the most part, fixes
Speaker 3: completely fixes the crash issue. And brother. Let me tell
Speaker 3: you that that game for the most part is crazy.
Speaker 3: Though it's say for the most part, not yeah, you
Speaker 3: got you gotta you gotta play New Vegas.
Speaker 2: I like, I want. I want to play it because
Speaker 2: I do. I do love Fallout. I think the vibe
Speaker 2: of it is just perfect.
Speaker 4: I do think the beginning of New Vegas is kind
Speaker 4: of like, I don't know, I don't really feel like
Speaker 4: I'm playing fall Out really, I feel like I'm playing
Speaker 4: like a something else. Like it doesn't have the Fallout
Speaker 4: vibe for me until you get into Vegas, I guess proper.
Speaker 4: I like cities like crumbled cities.
Speaker 2: I don't like, I don't know. I'm it's just like
Speaker 2: kind of like a like a plain field, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know a ve.
Speaker 3: There's there's a bunch of like crumbling cities or places.
Speaker 4: No I know, but I'm saying early on in the
Speaker 4: game it kind of feels like, I don't know. I
Speaker 4: really dig Fallout three from a vibe perspective, and just
Speaker 4: like I think it nails it. Although the story is
Speaker 4: like whatever, I'm more interested what's happening in New Vegas.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't you'll.
Speaker 3: You'll warm up to New Vegas. The longer you play it,
Speaker 3: trust me.
Speaker 4: You'll well, I believe that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll play it only because what
Speaker 1: doesn't run on principle, he doesn't want to install the
Speaker 1: mods out of principle because it's like this.
Speaker 2: I do I do hate.
Speaker 4: I do hate the idea that I have to fix
Speaker 4: your fucking game. But it bothers the hell out of me,
Speaker 4: like on a core level, Like that's like, that's like
Speaker 4: it's like going to Subway they throw the ingredients that
Speaker 4: you you know, I'm just like, how dare you? I'm
Speaker 4: sure all of these together, if in a perfect sandwich,
Speaker 4: is great, but what have you done to me that
Speaker 4: this is your excuse. I've heard that it runs pretty
Speaker 4: well on Steam Deck, so I think I might just
Speaker 4: like kind of do that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you can, you can roll the dice play
Speaker 3: play it on desktop two. You may run into those
Speaker 3: crashing problems which are a huge pain in the ass,
Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, I mean there's.
Speaker 2: I'll try and find I'm sure there's ways to do it,
Speaker 2: and I like it. I'm like, I'm I love Fallout,
Speaker 2: but like, man, yeah that game, I mean, not that game,
Speaker 2: just that game just is now.
Speaker 4: I remember when that game first came out and it
Speaker 4: was like I'll never forget because I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: should I get this?
Speaker 2: And then I looked up.
Speaker 4: A review and it had the guy in the beginning,
Speaker 4: the doctor that finds you, and he's like he's leaning
Speaker 4: in the chair and he's looking at you and his
Speaker 4: head was rotating like this.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, really and yeah, it was like complete.
Speaker 2: It was like they gave us bugged from the start,
Speaker 2: and everybody was like, uh, it's good, but like it's
Speaker 2: broken as fuck and I never being.
Speaker 4: And I remember being like, Okay, I guess I'll I
Speaker 4: guess I'll wait, and then they never fixed it. So
Speaker 4: it's kind of it's kind of nuts to me that
Speaker 4: they haven't fixed it. I guess maybe they're you made it.
Speaker 3: In like eleven months or something, same as kode toor
Speaker 3: two or maybe fourteen months, like they they jerry rigged
Speaker 3: that shit together.
Speaker 2: And dude, isn't it crazy that we used to get
Speaker 2: games that quick and like really good and really good
Speaker 2: games too.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I have this other video idea I made
Speaker 3: some notes on, but working title is what happened to
Speaker 3: Star Wars games? All right? Now Star Wars Episode three,
Speaker 3: Lego Star Wars, Battlefront two, Republic Commando. Those four games
Speaker 3: came out the same.
Speaker 2: Year, that is nuts two.
Speaker 3: Thousand and five. We had a first person squad based
Speaker 3: co op shooter with a fps multiplayer. You had Battlefront two,
Speaker 3: which was absolutely massive on Xbox Live. You had the
Speaker 3: Episode three Dueling game, which was like a fighting Star
Speaker 3: Wars game, not something you played for too long, kind
Speaker 3: of like something you would have rented a blockbuster or
Speaker 3: beat it over the weekend, and then you know, I've
Speaker 3: done some battles with your buddies. And then of course
Speaker 3: Lego Star Wars was just that was like one of
Speaker 3: the first really big, big Lego games that popped off,
Speaker 3: at least from my memory.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I remember that being a huge. I remember
Speaker 4: that being a huge. I never got that into the
Speaker 4: Lego games because they were a little bit I think
Speaker 4: around the time that those games were out and popping, like,
Speaker 4: I just kind of felt like you're in that age
Speaker 4: where you're just like, that's just for kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm too cool for whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm too cool to watch like the guy
Speaker 2: in south Park. Right, I'm gonna watch Family Guy. My
Speaker 2: portable DVD player.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, but uh fucking the that new Lego
Speaker 4: Batman game looks actually really fun, like they had like
Speaker 4: the what is it, the entire saga or whatever they got.
Speaker 2: They got Bane in there, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah with Matt.
Speaker 2: But it is cool, but it is insane.
Speaker 4: Like I look back at like that era as being
Speaker 4: like specifically like maybe like twenty to twenty maybe maybe
Speaker 4: eleven is even too late, but like the two thousands,
Speaker 4: primarily of just like Man, that was like the perfect
Speaker 4: like weight to wait and receive era, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, where it's just like there would be just
Speaker 4: enough time between game releases where you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm excited for the next one, you know, and then
Speaker 4: by the time you're excited for the next one, you've heard.
Speaker 2: About it and it's out.
Speaker 4: Yea three year dev cycles kind of thing, like the
Speaker 4: fact that all the Uncharted games came out, and like
Speaker 4: that span of time is insane, Like what is it
Speaker 4: twenty seven to twenty eleven or some crazy thing like that,
Speaker 4: Just like that is insane for three Uncharted games or
Speaker 4: the entire Gears trilogy in one generation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we used to that is fucking bewildering.
Speaker 4: To me, you go from Gears one to Gears two,
Speaker 4: which is like, oh, that jump is nuts, but like
Speaker 4: all of that in two three years, what the fuck
Speaker 4: are we doing.
Speaker 3: I remember beating Halo two and then thinking, you know,
Speaker 3: you got that amazing cliffhanger ending, which at the time
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I can't fucking wait till the next
Speaker 3: game comes out. I'm sold. And then you replay Halo
Speaker 3: two like every month or whatever, and you just you
Speaker 3: just marinate and that where's it gonna go? Where's it
Speaker 3: gonna go? And I remember, I remember this was like
Speaker 3: really super early YouTube, and they had that that starry
Speaker 3: night ad, you know when it's the kids out in
Speaker 3: the in the forest, and even at like whatever it
Speaker 3: was like three sixty p or seven, like maybe seven
Speaker 3: to twenty p it was, it was like two thousand
Speaker 3: and six, and I remember seeing that being like, you know,
Speaker 3: and you had a year to just like marinade on
Speaker 3: on d LO three, so I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 3: It's like uh. And then you had kind of all
Speaker 3: these like side games like shit that that big game
Speaker 3: developers of publishers wouldn't make nowadays because they they want
Speaker 3: to throw like one hundred million dollars into it. But
Speaker 3: you know, like the og xbox was perfect for that.
Speaker 3: It's like blood Wake, Here's here's a fucking boat game,
Speaker 3: shoot each other on boats. So like jets at Radio Future,
Speaker 3: I don't know, just skate around in this anime cell
Speaker 3: shaded land fuck off. Yeah, you know, there's always something
Speaker 3: cool in between those like really big titles, and now
Speaker 3: for the most part, it kind of feels like you
Speaker 3: have the really big titles and then there's like indie games.
Speaker 3: It's like there's no like middle of there's nothing in between.
Speaker 3: There's no there's no middle market. And it's weird because
Speaker 3: like the middle market kind of did come back for
Speaker 3: a little while there, like we got stuff like Biomutant
Speaker 3: and like I feel like Hell Divers Too and maybe
Speaker 3: even Expedition thirty three are both kind of middle market.
Speaker 4: You could you could make the argument, yeah, it's just
Speaker 4: that they both look super good.
Speaker 3: They could. They could fool you into thinking, oh this
Speaker 3: is triple A.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And by the way, those games though, but even that,
Speaker 4: like those games took I mean, Hell Divers Too was
Speaker 4: in development since twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: I think like that shit was nuts. Like the trailer.
Speaker 4: The trailer for hell Divers two leaked many many years
Speaker 4: before it came out, and it was not the same game. Really, yeah,
Speaker 4: there was like we did a whole show about it,
Speaker 4: and it was just like, when's this coming out? And
Speaker 4: then we waited and then it was completely different by
Speaker 4: the time we saw it. And it's like, so even
Speaker 4: those games that are considered like kind of like more
Speaker 4: double A or whatever, or like less less polished, more
Speaker 4: emphasis on just like fun or just like an interesting idea,
Speaker 4: like those games, Like even those games take fucking forever
Speaker 4: now where it's like it used to be. It used
Speaker 4: to be like, okay, like Pandemic. Do you remember Pandemic games? Dude,
Speaker 4: Like they were just on a fucking like here's here's
Speaker 4: destroy all Humans, Here's mercenaries, Here's Battlefront, Here's Lord of
Speaker 4: the Ring's Conquest, here's fucking here's terror bro could just
Speaker 4: jumped fucking ridiculous and it was all just fun, just
Speaker 4: really cool, like enough that like this is an interesting
Speaker 4: idea and games aren't so expensive to make right now
Speaker 4: that it's actually worth doing this, yeah, Whereas now it's
Speaker 4: like if you have a risky idea, like that, Uh,
Speaker 4: let's uh pitch it.
Speaker 2: And see if we can maybe make it a game
Speaker 2: mode in Fortnite. Well.
Speaker 3: Also, the business model changed, right with the advent of
Speaker 3: like live service. It's no longer oh, we're just pasting
Speaker 3: off of sales and good reviews and all of this,
Speaker 3: and so it was like, yeah, it's it's all engagement
Speaker 3: and like getting people to open their wallets and make
Speaker 3: consistent purchases, which like of course games like Hell Divers too,
Speaker 3: where the max amount of super credits you can purchase
Speaker 3: at one time is only twenty bucks, right, that's they
Speaker 3: do a really good jib, really good jib, really.
Speaker 1: Good job of that great jib.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's like back in the day, it was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we just gotta gotta come up with a really fucking
Speaker 3: cool cover and maybe a game trailer, and you know,
Speaker 3: we'll do interviews with a Game Informer or whatever and
Speaker 3: try to promote this and just make a cool game.
Speaker 3: And now I feel like there's too many cooks in
Speaker 3: the kitchen, too many hands trying to grab a piece.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just cost too much, man, Like four
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars for Concord is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Where does that money go. That's the thing that I
Speaker 1: want to know.
Speaker 2: It goes to the show. You remember that they had
Speaker 2: the Concord episode of that weird TV show. Did you
Speaker 2: see that? There was like a show called Secret Level
Speaker 2: on right?
Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw that earlier this year.
Speaker 2: That's right, dude. They they thought Concord was gonna be
Speaker 2: so unstoppably huge. They thought that that was going to be.
Speaker 4: So they saw star Child or whatever that fucking weird
Speaker 4: character was in Concord, they were like, this is gonna
Speaker 4: be the next fucking baby, fucking Yoda.
Speaker 3: Thing about Concord is that, like the character designs could
Speaker 3: have worked. It's the art style. They went, like the
Speaker 3: art super realistic, like, but if it was a little
Speaker 3: more cartoony, exaggerated, you probably get away with some of
Speaker 3: that stuff.
Speaker 2: I played a fair bit of it. I bought when
Speaker 2: it came out just because I was like, I was
Speaker 2: so curious. I was like, what is this going on?
Speaker 2: I bought it. Well, first of all, I wanted to
Speaker 2: buy it for the show.
Speaker 4: Because I was just like, this is just interesting because
Speaker 4: I knew the game was gonna fucking fall apart. Uh,
Speaker 4: And part of that was kind of interesting because you
Speaker 4: got to There is something that I will say about
Speaker 4: Concord that I really liked, although it was nothing it
Speaker 4: was it was a complete byproduct of its absolute fucking failure,
Speaker 4: was that when you when you were playing Concord, this
Speaker 4: is a PvP kind of you know, is is this
Speaker 4: kind of as a competitive PvP first person shooter and
Speaker 4: you're playing it with other people, and I remember the
Speaker 4: best experience that I had was it was like, man,
Speaker 4: this is so nice because nobody gives a shit about
Speaker 4: this game that no one's like, no one's like like you,
Speaker 4: no one crowd, no one's trying, and everybody's just kind
Speaker 4: of chill about it. And I was like, man, I
Speaker 4: haven't felt this like since like maybe like the three
Speaker 4: sixty era, where like people were just genuine except for
Speaker 4: out of maybe Gears of War one was fucking sweaty
Speaker 4: as fuck, but you know, most games back then were
Speaker 4: just like, hey, you just played it, and it it
Speaker 4: just kind of didn't really matter. You didn't really care.
Speaker 4: And that was like a weirdly like night thing. Although
Speaker 4: I'm sure they were furious that nobody cared about it, yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, but actually the company that developed it is not
Speaker 3: too far from my hometown, so it's a little little
Speaker 3: uh it's awkward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you run into them every now and again.
Speaker 3: You're like, man, yeah, well it's gotta suck to be
Speaker 3: on that side of game development and like put your
Speaker 3: heart into something and then just you're just on the wrong,
Speaker 3: wrong track.
Speaker 4: The toxic positivity of it. Two of just like you
Speaker 4: know that there were people, you know that there were
Speaker 4: people there who were just like guys just saying it
Speaker 4: because it played well. Like I remember playing it, I
Speaker 4: was like, this play is really, this is perfectly adequate,
Speaker 4: Like this is there's nothing really wrong with it.
Speaker 3: It's just ugly.
Speaker 4: And I don't like to be here. I don't like
Speaker 4: to spend time looking at these characters. I don't like
Speaker 4: to I don't like any of the way that. I
Speaker 4: don't like the vibe of this entire thing. But it
Speaker 4: plays well, and you know they knew, you know that
Speaker 4: there were people there who like either had more pull
Speaker 4: than others.
Speaker 2: Who just weren't listening. I can't hear you. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's just like, well, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I recently watched some of those old Halo VI
Speaker 3: docs and behind the scenes, if you want a really
Speaker 3: cool look into game development the Halo CE commentary track
Speaker 3: where it's like Marty, Jason Jones, and Joe Staton and
Speaker 3: they're all just riffing on the game. Yeah, but what's
Speaker 3: so interesting about this one? In particular. It might've been
Speaker 3: after Halo two came out, before Halo three, maybe after
Speaker 3: Halo three and they went back to it. But as
Speaker 3: you listen to the to these three guys talk, it's
Speaker 3: like they're constantly making fun of each other about like
Speaker 3: all these little imperfections that and not even someone like
Speaker 3: me who's played it one hundred times would ever catch
Speaker 3: on to. Right, There's like there was some part of
Speaker 3: it where Joe's like, oh yeah, and if you look
Speaker 3: in this corner right here, you can see the skyboxes
Speaker 3: cut off and I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: I can't even see that, right, But it was such
Speaker 3: a such a like perfectionist mindset that they had. It
Speaker 3: was almost like the part of the reason the Halo
Speaker 3: games were so fucking good was that internal competition between
Speaker 3: devs to outdo each other, but also the understanding that
Speaker 3: they're all on a team and when it really matters,
Speaker 3: they would genuinely compliment each other. There's like, yeah, there's
Speaker 3: there's some moment.
Speaker 2: They would they would rip into each other.
Speaker 4: I remember like there was something like it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's a great animation there like or something like completely
Speaker 4: completely yeah, yeah, I love It's so interesting, man, just
Speaker 4: to look those are great vilocks in general. Just those
Speaker 4: are the most honest vilocs that I've ever seen, exactly right,
Speaker 4: Like it's crazy.
Speaker 3: About in the Halo three one and they're doing the
Speaker 3: Halo two documentary or no that that was a Halo
Speaker 3: two legendary collection. Basically all of the vidoc is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this game is a fucking disaster. It's it's oh man,
Speaker 3: we're rushing towards the finished line. We had to cut
Speaker 3: all this shit. And you don't get that nowadays, right,
Speaker 3: You compare that to some like Black Ops seven thing,
Speaker 3: where it's.
Speaker 6: Like we were making the most uh incredible call of
Speaker 6: duty experience to date. You're not gonna believe your fucking
Speaker 6: eyes or ears when you play this, and it's it's
Speaker 6: missing that every.
Speaker 7: Day I wake up and I walk into Activision and
Speaker 7: I come and I can't believe how good it is.
Speaker 7: I like the way that like that slide looks perfect
Speaker 7: and you go to the Kla, you go to the
Speaker 7: Halo two videoc and there's literally there's a shot that
Speaker 7: lives rent free in my fucking head of I think
Speaker 7: it's I think it's Joe Staton and he's just in
Speaker 7: the dark and he's sitting in front of like a
Speaker 7: like a monitor in like a kind of an empty room.
Speaker 2: The lights are all down, but like the the light's
Speaker 2: coming in and he's just like he's just like defeated.
Speaker 4: This is completely like he's like he's slept at that
Speaker 4: desk like overnight probably and he's just like this is hell.
Speaker 2: I'm like, everybody's fucking miserable, like we don't know what
Speaker 2: we're gonna do. Everything's this is falling apart. It's hysterical
Speaker 2: because you would never see that.
Speaker 1: I still to this day.
Speaker 4: That was what got me into like paying attention to
Speaker 4: this industry, was genuinely that vidoc and I thought that
Speaker 4: there would be more of them, but there's straight up none.
Speaker 4: The closest maybe is the God of War one, uh
Speaker 4: raising raising Kratos. Yeah, but that was all, but that
Speaker 4: was all retrospective. That was all like after the game
Speaker 4: had done well, Like this was like during Yeah, like
Speaker 4: this was this is technically marketing material for the game.
Speaker 4: It's like, guys, look how much everything sucked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they had some shit.
Speaker 1: Maybe it might even been within the original God of
Speaker 1: War game. Uh like when David Jaffy was like a
Speaker 1: part of that shit. And I think that's like the
Speaker 1: closest thing I can think of back in the day
Speaker 1: with the similar vibe or it.
Speaker 2: It just it felt different.
Speaker 1: It felt it felt inclusive, and it's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: get to see how the sofs just made and like
Speaker 1: it felt authentic and now, like like you were.
Speaker 2: Saying, David, David Jeffi's a very authentic I do you
Speaker 2: know anything about David Jeffy.
Speaker 1: You know, nothing recently, but I've seen some ship over
Speaker 1: the years.
Speaker 2: We've done, we've done, we've done. I've done some shows
Speaker 2: with him, and he is so fucking funny. But for
Speaker 2: modern tastes, oh yeah, he's definitely like not he's like
Speaker 2: he runs a cliffy bee kind of where it's just
Speaker 2: like those those like they're they're But.
Speaker 3: I honestly can respect that to a certain degree, like
Speaker 3: like you know, because we don't really there's no real
Speaker 3: vibe of old bungeee anymore like that sort of bro
Speaker 3: uh not like Activision Blizzard how they described their their
Speaker 3: culture as like a toxic bro thing, but just like
Speaker 3: the idea of like, we're all in this together, but
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fucking let you slack off,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna tell you honestly, like oh yeah, you
Speaker 3: know shit. Development for this fucking sucked. Yeah, that authenticity
Speaker 3: it feels like a different era before social media really
Speaker 3: took off, and this whole idea of like perfect appearances
Speaker 3: and everything has to look nice, shiny, sleek and clean
Speaker 3: and you can't say anything offensive because then you'll I mean,
Speaker 3: we were even talking about Randy Pitchford right earlier. It's
Speaker 3: like even even we to a certain extent, are are
Speaker 3: kind of in some ways looking for perfectionism in people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, I guess on that front,
Speaker 4: to be fair to them, they are letting Randy be Randy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good like they're not, as a
Speaker 2: good point, not musling am I that's a good.
Speaker 1: Counterbalance, right, I do feel to me it's like, even
Speaker 1: though I like what you're saying, that makes sense. I
Speaker 1: also think certain roles like, say, the CEO. I think
Speaker 1: the people like under them the quote unquote grunts. I
Speaker 1: guess that's where it's like, hey, you're just like the consumers.
Speaker 1: We're we're in this, you know. I'm not some rich
Speaker 1: piece of shit. I'm fucking just working on this thing.
Speaker 1: And I think those where we want to see the authenticity.
Speaker 1: I really don't want to see a CEO shoot from
Speaker 1: the hip.
Speaker 2: I really don't. Yeah, I kind of know what you mean. Yeah, no, yeah,
Speaker 2: that is fair.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of like interesting to think about how
Speaker 3: perceptions change, and like even even on YouTube or just
Speaker 3: like with the advent of social media, how that ended
Speaker 3: up affecting game development because before it was like, oh,
Speaker 3: if you're pissed off at a game, what do you do?
Speaker 3: You leave a negative rating on game facts or some
Speaker 3: ship or or what you can play on some some
Speaker 3: forum that a thousand people go on, and you know,
Speaker 3: but now it's like, look at us, we're all a
Speaker 3: bunch of assholes, and we make you know, we attract
Speaker 3: like millions of viewers shitting on this thing, and and
Speaker 3: then you know, we what do we really know about
Speaker 3: game development at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: Days I don't know that was. That was so clear
Speaker 2: to me when the Crag thing happened.
Speaker 4: Craig the Craig, Yeah, yeah, there's the screenshot of the
Speaker 4: Brute getting melee and he just had no expression on
Speaker 4: his face and people were like games fucked and what
Speaker 4: I'm being like.
Speaker 3: Oh no, man, that did look really really bad though,
Speaker 3: especially like it was five years after that much.
Speaker 2: Dog after that much time.
Speaker 4: I agree, but it's just like, man, this is but
Speaker 4: this is exactly why things take so long now, is
Speaker 4: because like if a game isn't like Pixel perfect, where
Speaker 4: every frame of it, dude is like looks like a
Speaker 4: fucking movie, it'll get torn a son.
Speaker 2: Oh dude. Yeah.
Speaker 4: People were I couldn't believe that ship like that was
Speaker 4: and there, dude, there were people in the industry quote
Speaker 4: unquote like well, you know whatever, the content industry, whatever
Speaker 4: you want to call it, like like genuine people with audiences,
Speaker 4: with like opinions that people for some reason respect, being
Speaker 4: like I can't believe this early, this alpha footage of
Speaker 4: Grand Theft, thought looks this bad unbelievably.
Speaker 2: It was like they haven't even finished it yet. It's
Speaker 2: like you don't know what anything is authentically like you're
Speaker 2: fuck I get out. I can't believe that those people exist.
Speaker 3: Side note, did you guys see that Halo documentary that
Speaker 3: like leaked recently?
Speaker 2: Oh? I did? I did watch that.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't see it that I'm not as big
Speaker 1: as y'all.
Speaker 2: Uh, But I just I was.
Speaker 1: I was like a Battlestar Galacticate. I just I went
Speaker 1: a different route. But I still appreciate Halo very much.
Speaker 1: So I always talk about Reach being my favorite though,
Speaker 1: that was my favorite installment.
Speaker 3: But so they had like they had like this documentary.
Speaker 3: It was on a guy's website and it was it
Speaker 3: was made in like twenty seventeen or something. The description
Speaker 3: for it was used as a as a pitch for
Speaker 3: Halo Infinite. But when you watch the vie doc right,
Speaker 3: if you're like me and Chris and you're super fucking
Speaker 3: nerdy about you know, all the lore, uh, at least
Speaker 3: behind the studio stuff, you're like, oh, that person, that
Speaker 3: person's no longer there, that person was fired, that person's
Speaker 3: no longer there. And like to see how they ended
Speaker 3: up talking about what we knew would become Infinite was
Speaker 3: very very interesting and enlightening in a sense of it
Speaker 3: was like a time capsule that that sprung up and
Speaker 3: it was something we were never meant to see. It's
Speaker 3: super interesting.
Speaker 4: It was like yeah, yeah, it was like they were
Speaker 4: it's so fucking weird because, like I remember they said
Speaker 4: stuff in that documentary where I remember I publicly said
Speaker 4: something about it about like the direction that they were
Speaker 4: going in, and Jason Schreier, like Jason Schreyer was like,
Speaker 4: by the way, a very well respected person like in
Speaker 4: the games industry, Like he covers a lot of shit,
Speaker 4: he leaks a lot of shit, he breaks a lot
Speaker 4: of news and does a lot of expos a's I
Speaker 4: think he did he did the big one on because
Speaker 4: I think it was him who did the big one
Speaker 4: on Anthem when BioWare did the R did Anthem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's done a lot of great stuff.
Speaker 4: No, yes, but like he responded to me, he was
Speaker 4: like there's no or he's like that's not true. And
Speaker 4: I'm like okay, and it's all in that fucking It's
Speaker 4: all in that fucking documentary.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, circle back.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I tried to find it. I tried to find the tweet.
Speaker 2: I tried.
Speaker 4: I wanted to like to spam the link at him.
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, but I couldn't fucking find it.
Speaker 2: He blocked me.
Speaker 3: So yeah, the whole like Hero Shooter Halo Infinite thing.
Speaker 3: It was like yeah, But the thing is they had
Speaker 3: some cool cool stuff like that. There was this I
Speaker 3: recorded a video that was like a reaction to this
Speaker 3: documentary and I was gonna post it before the people
Speaker 3: who like owned it started being like, hey, you can't
Speaker 3: post this, and I was like, okay, well I'm just
Speaker 3: not gonna post the video then. But they had they
Speaker 3: had this concept art that just it said it spoke
Speaker 3: to me and and which is kind of rare considering
Speaker 3: like three four three and their interpretation of Halo more
Speaker 3: often than not missus the mark. But this concept art
Speaker 3: you probably saw it, Chris. It was like Master Chief
Speaker 3: is in some forerunner part of this new Ring and
Speaker 3: he's like held in a chamber and it's this group
Speaker 3: of marines fighting off sentinels. And the first mission, the
Speaker 3: idea was that you were going to play as a
Speaker 3: marine rescue the Master Chief. Your character as the marine
Speaker 3: would die, you know, unlocking him from this chamber. Then
Speaker 3: you would swap perspectives into the Master Chief and then
Speaker 3: see this marine die and then boom, there's a start
Speaker 3: of the adventure. It was this concept art that.
Speaker 2: Was just that would be cool. What could have been.
Speaker 4: Geez, imagine if they imagine Halo, if it had levels,
Speaker 4: that'd be so crazy.
Speaker 3: Imagine if you could replay levels. You know.
Speaker 2: Broke my heart. Dude.
Speaker 1: Uh looking at people unearthed the the concept art for
Speaker 1: or uh Dragon Age four and that shit fucking like
Speaker 1: it made me want to cry about like the ideas
Speaker 1: that they were normally going for before they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's turn this into live service and then they fucking
Speaker 1: reverse that at the last second.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But like just even things that didn't make sense, like
Speaker 1: your character that you play as, like Rookie, You're like,
Speaker 1: who the fuck is this person? And they were actually
Speaker 1: supposed to be important. They're supposed to be like your
Speaker 1: right hand to the inquisitor. They actually had like they did,
Speaker 1: they had connections, they had it was meaningful. There was
Speaker 1: gonna be more people involved from the older games. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be payoffs, and you're just like, yeah, but here's
Speaker 1: the thing, but here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Essentially essentially, I'm do you know how I feel? So
Speaker 1: wounded that every once in a while I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like a little delusion, like maybe
Speaker 1: if I just play it one more time, there will
Speaker 1: be I swear I saw. That's the saddest feeling of
Speaker 1: the waiting something.
Speaker 2: Maybe waybe you'll get better this time.
Speaker 1: Waiting ten years dude for like something like legitimately, not
Speaker 1: like like drafta foto. You know there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: million years, so you just got you just you're content
Speaker 1: with like I know it's gonna take forever, legitimately, waiting
Speaker 1: for Dragon Age to come out for this long and
Speaker 1: be like fucking hurry up, dude, hurry up, like let's go.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one of my favorite franchises.
Speaker 3: And then an Inquisition was game of the year.
Speaker 2: I mean in a rough year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a rough year. But I went back and
Speaker 1: played Inquisition in preparation, and I well, first of all,
Speaker 1: the funny thing is I since my they have the
Speaker 1: dragon Age keep that's supposed to link all the games together,
Speaker 1: mine's not working for whatever reason, And so I forgot
Speaker 1: how many things were actually supposed to be in my
Speaker 1: version of Inquisition. So when I did a review of
Speaker 1: the bill Guard I made some mistakes because I forgot
Speaker 1: about certain people that made returns or not or whatever.
Speaker 1: But uh, that being said, I I thoroughly enjoyed playing
Speaker 1: the game more than I remembered because I had. I
Speaker 1: had a fun time playing Inquisition when it first came out,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh that was cool, Like this
Speaker 1: is this pretty, you know, like it's not Origins, but
Speaker 1: it's this is serviceable and some of the things that
Speaker 1: they did. I thought they did some stuff well, but
Speaker 1: you can see how they were still trying to do
Speaker 1: more life service type shit with that game too, where
Speaker 1: with its h its maps and like the it was
Speaker 1: pretty obvious with the way that the maps and here's
Speaker 1: the power points so you can finally progress. And there
Speaker 1: were certain things that I'm like, Okay, this could have
Speaker 1: been feel this could have been much worse. But they
Speaker 1: kind of backed off too.
Speaker 3: When you re feel better than you remember the first time.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is I was actually it was well, okay,
Speaker 1: this is actually unfair because I I was it was better,
Speaker 1: but I think it was better because I I didn't
Speaker 1: I used a couple of trainers for something specific, and
Speaker 1: it was for the traveling and I remember the traveling
Speaker 1: in the first game really pissed me off because the
Speaker 1: maps were so big and I felt very slow. So
Speaker 1: I'd always be like a war because they had this
Speaker 1: charging fucking when you're active skills, it was like a
Speaker 1: charge and then you know, you just wait for it
Speaker 1: to fucking the cool down and then you do it.
Speaker 1: So I just had that infinitely on. I can't tell
Speaker 1: you how that made the game significantly better, just being
Speaker 1: able to do things much faster. So that's also a
Speaker 1: big deception. And my second run through a Dragon a
Speaker 1: Balder's Great Balder's Gate three, for example, I did the
Speaker 1: same thing. I sped up the speed so I can
Speaker 1: get from pointing to point B way faster.
Speaker 2: That thing is sacred.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2: You go, you going, and you just make I play.
Speaker 3: I watch YouTube videos at two times.
Speaker 2: I do not.
Speaker 1: I do not.
Speaker 2: I don't do that.
Speaker 1: The people that people that do that, I'm like, why
Speaker 1: are you even watching it? Because you're I'm watching a
Speaker 1: video too. And to be fair, the first time I'm
Speaker 1: playing a game, I I don't do shit like that.
Speaker 1: But it's when I'm replaying some stuff and I understand
Speaker 1: how long it's gonna take me to get from pointing
Speaker 1: to point B, where I'm like, all right, bro, I
Speaker 1: just I just I wish I had a fast travel,
Speaker 1: but this the game's fast travel is terrible in Inquisition
Speaker 1: comparatively to a lot of modern more modern games.
Speaker 3: But you know what you don't like, and you know
Speaker 3: the shortcuts to make it better on your own.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But like I guess story wise, when I was
Speaker 1: thinking about a lot of the things, there's still quite
Speaker 1: a bit of dialogue and inquisition that I really enjoyed.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the characters because I was comparing especially to
Speaker 1: Vailguard like and like even like just I was thinking
Speaker 1: about the party and I was like, I actually there
Speaker 1: was only one character I didn't like, and it was
Speaker 1: some chick named Sarah, and uh she just really fucking annoying.
Speaker 1: But besides that, like uh Freda Prince Junior the Iron Bowl,
Speaker 1: like I fucking awesome character. Even the side characters like
Speaker 1: it brought it up again because there was a fucking
Speaker 1: trans dude and inquisition good character Krim. Like I was
Speaker 1: thinking about all this, I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: this is actually better than I really remember. But I
Speaker 1: think being spoiled especially just a couple of years after
Speaker 1: Master e Fact three, regardless of what people were saying
Speaker 1: about Mass Factory, because I know the ending pissed everybody off,
Speaker 1: but before that, it's still.
Speaker 2: Solid ass fucking game.
Speaker 1: And then the Citadel DEALCS was fun basically just BioWare
Speaker 1: having such a high having such a high standard. I
Speaker 1: expected a little bit more out of I guess Inquisition
Speaker 1: at the time, but now I guess there being a
Speaker 1: little bit of a drought, and going back, I was like,
Speaker 1: this is still pretty fun.
Speaker 2: This is it is crazy. They they they have been
Speaker 2: speaking of generational runs. Dude.
Speaker 1: They had one eight Empire, ninety Old Republic.
Speaker 2: They had both.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have they have a generational run in every direction,
Speaker 4: like every every going from look Man, going from Andromeda
Speaker 4: two Anthem to Vail Guards. That's a rough that's a
Speaker 4: rough three game run.
Speaker 1: Whatever's the opposite of a three peat.
Speaker 2: That's the That's what that is.
Speaker 3: That's like three zero to sixteen seasons in a row.
Speaker 2: It it feels like it, dude. Yeah.
Speaker 4: People people like to to talk about that like that
Speaker 4: way of a bungee, and I totally get it because
Speaker 4: they lost a lot of people, especially like that company's
Speaker 4: been run so poorly forever. But like, I don't know, dude,
Speaker 4: that's like that is next level by where it might
Speaker 4: be the biggest fall I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like maybe.
Speaker 3: Like Blizzards definitely, because like dude, the Warcraft three reforged,
Speaker 3: like it it should be illegal to release a remake
Speaker 3: that then ruins the previous game. It like ruins your
Speaker 3: previous purchase, right because the whole like client that they
Speaker 3: had and the way custom games and matchmaking worked in
Speaker 3: the original war F three, they replaced it.
Speaker 2: And fu, that's like what Overwatch? That's like an Overwatch?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Overwatch two was at least free.
Speaker 2: This wasn't. Oh my god, that's it, bro.
Speaker 3: I that yeah. I think until the Diablomortal, that was
Speaker 3: the lowest review of God Diablo Mortal.
Speaker 2: Yeah that is that? That the gotcha you guys have
Speaker 2: you guys don't have phones? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, Blizzard owns like two of the lowest rated
Speaker 3: video games of all time.
Speaker 1: Man, I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: I saw people leave because I do.
Speaker 1: I knew nothing about the Gosha genre until Raid, and
Speaker 1: I started to learn about all this stuff and and
Speaker 1: people that were making Raid Shadow Legends content left to
Speaker 1: go make uh the album because these peoplere rich. They're
Speaker 1: fucking ultra whale krakens. And I saw a guy spend
Speaker 1: like one hundred thousand dollars just to max out someone
Speaker 1: like immediately, and I'm like, can.
Speaker 2: I have some Like what the brother? That's what is happening?
Speaker 3: Is one hundred thousand dollars worth of fun? What game
Speaker 3: offers that much fun?
Speaker 2: Nothing? Nothing, d I can tell you.
Speaker 1: When I now that I the Raid economy, I know
Speaker 1: like all about it and shit, because I was gonna
Speaker 1: make a video actually about like, oh all these years
Speaker 1: later because everybody remembers when it first came out and
Speaker 1: people like were absolutely destroying it.
Speaker 2: But I was like, I want to make a video.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And I was like, I want to make
Speaker 1: a video talking about okay, all these years later and
Speaker 1: the economy. And it's like, guys, there is an underground
Speaker 1: gotcha genre thing that you don't understand that funds these people.
Speaker 1: They make millions of dollars a month, the company plowing,
Speaker 1: That's why they make so much money a month. But
Speaker 1: when people are like this game suck stick, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I understand how you feel. But these people that play
Speaker 1: these games don't give a shit, and they prompt them
Speaker 1: up so lucrative. It's so lucrative, and it bled into
Speaker 1: say the sports industry, particularly INBA two K. And I
Speaker 1: want to talk about this because it's it's useless. I
Speaker 1: used I loved basketball games back in the day, but
Speaker 1: now there it's essentially it's fucked. You have to if
Speaker 1: you want to play your game, first, you buy the game,
Speaker 1: so seventy dollars. And if you want to max out
Speaker 1: your character to be in the nineties to actually compete
Speaker 1: with anyone, do any type of pdv B, you're easily
Speaker 1: paying another fifty to seventy dollars.
Speaker 3: It's just sports betting at that point. It's it's not
Speaker 3: a video game.
Speaker 1: It's like half video game and half sports betting.
Speaker 2: It's fucking shit.
Speaker 1: And and and they also do a bunch of predatory
Speaker 1: things to where I can't even enjoy because me, I
Speaker 1: would I bought like one of the newer ones that
Speaker 1: was like two K nineteen, and I would just put
Speaker 1: on mods and shit, and then I don't have to
Speaker 1: buy anything. But they turn the fucking servers off and
Speaker 1: they attached the some offline modes like the most important
Speaker 1: things to online, Like oh, I just want to play
Speaker 1: through the story and fuck around and play a season.
Speaker 1: And then like they're like, uh, that's classic. I can't
Speaker 1: play it when it's a paperweight.
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 3: With a story.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's a dude, Well I got it to I'll
Speaker 2: let you go to second Chris.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: They turned it into an RPG for a minute, Like
Speaker 1: at a certain point they put it, they put it
Speaker 1: storylines and there's growth off and there was like dude,
Speaker 1: love interest and shit and and choices. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I bought NBA per I bought NBA two K nineteen.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, dog, this is actually kind of good.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is fun. Like I'm doing I'm
Speaker 1: cheating my ass off. I'm doing PvE like you know,
Speaker 1: running up the score. It's like fucking three hundred or
Speaker 1: like two or something, and I'm doing all this dumb
Speaker 1: shit and I was having a blast. And then they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: these people are having too much fun. Turn off the
Speaker 1: fucking servers so they can't go back to these games.
Speaker 1: And I was like, sho kill broh, it's fucked.
Speaker 2: And that whole thing was crazy too. That whole fucking
Speaker 2: that was pirates pirate software. What the fuck was that?
Speaker 2: I don't understand what that was? Like, why was he
Speaker 2: that was?
Speaker 3: That was a man who cannot admit that he has
Speaker 3: ever been wrong, and that is a curse I would
Speaker 3: not wish on my worst Nim's because man, you gotta
Speaker 3: you gotta bottle up some serious demons to continue to
Speaker 3: operate like that.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, well, well he's a well, in fairness, he
Speaker 4: was the first second generation employee.
Speaker 3: I can't believe he said that.
Speaker 2: That's just.
Speaker 3: Crazy, especially when the company culture has been rotted out
Speaker 3: and you're bragging about your time as an employee there
Speaker 3: at the shelf this like shell of a man company.
Speaker 2: And apparently it's always been like pretty rotten too. Like
Speaker 2: that's kind of the crazy thing too. It's like what
Speaker 2: does that even do? Right?
Speaker 4: Like like everyone like hearing about like Bungie and how
Speaker 4: like they've just like always had like no direction the
Speaker 4: entire time. It's like damn, I mean to me, like
Speaker 4: that shows that Bungee is like a mess of a company,
Speaker 4: but it also shows like to me, that's also like
Speaker 4: mega impressive to me that they managed to make like
Speaker 4: some of the best shit ever with like no direction.
Speaker 3: Old school Bungee was like organized chaos. Like I said,
Speaker 3: like all the developers were in constant competition with each other,
Speaker 3: and you know, Jason Jones was like, yeah, we are
Speaker 3: the we are the jaded crowd. So like they knew
Speaker 3: what they liked and and even though sometimes they they
Speaker 3: like had scope creep or got like we're way too
Speaker 3: over ambitious, Like, at the end of the day, they
Speaker 3: always pulled together as a team and and like made
Speaker 3: the best fucking video game they could they could.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, let's uh wrap up with some questions
Speaker 2: and get the.
Speaker 3: Hell out of you know, you guys are a ton
Speaker 3: of fun to talk to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I like this is good.
Speaker 3: Always have me on.
Speaker 2: We should we should just like that and play Sweeney.
Speaker 2: Yeah we should. Yeah, we should let him live in,
Speaker 2: Let him live in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the new Sweeney.
Speaker 2: I like it perfect.
Speaker 4: We'll get canceled for that. I think we need now,
Speaker 4: I think we need we need Sweeneye.
Speaker 2: No, we don't need to, we don't need two of us.
Speaker 2: He gives it, He gives us.
Speaker 4: All right, Hey, it's Philip roaded and you can too
Speaker 4: if you go to pay on a concest of Snart
Speaker 4: tank All that Jazz says, Hey, you handsome gamers, have
Speaker 4: you have you have either of you guys ever cut
Speaker 4: school or work for a video game? I asked because
Speaker 4: I asked for three days off for Halo Infinite left
Speaker 4: school early and left school early.
Speaker 2: To get GTA five. Have a good one, my beautiful,
Speaker 2: bashful beefy boy.
Speaker 1: Technically yes, uh for the for the when the when
Speaker 1: the first mess EFFECTU this this the Citadel DLC dropped
Speaker 1: and uh because they had a part one and part
Speaker 1: two and when it dropped in this was like the
Speaker 1: real ending. I guess they were like, this is when
Speaker 1: you have some shore leave and then this is when
Speaker 1: you're gonna I was just like, I'm fucking on board,
Speaker 1: because obviously I was one of the people that was
Speaker 1: pretty upset about the the ending and how it went.
Speaker 1: Even with the expansion, it still felt a little like
Speaker 1: this was still kind of gay.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, so it was.
Speaker 1: It was. It felt so I fucking hated my job.
Speaker 1: I was working at New Egg at the time. I
Speaker 1: fucking hated working there anyway. Uh So, I of course
Speaker 1: I called that I was like a fun funk I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna chill, download it and just fucking just have
Speaker 1: a great time.
Speaker 2: And it was.
Speaker 1: That was That's sadly, that was a fun memory, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very mundane, but it was fun.
Speaker 3: I don't have an exit. I mean I got a
Speaker 3: couple The only time I like called out a work
Speaker 3: or something. Uh that's that wasn't like a good reason
Speaker 3: like it was. It was Halo five had had just
Speaker 3: come out, maybe a day or two before, and I
Speaker 3: had to I had like a morning shift, it might
Speaker 3: have been a weekend. But then my mom woke me
Speaker 3: up like right before my shift and told me my
Speaker 3: grandpa had died. And I was like, oh, I was
Speaker 3: like half half awake.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh fuck.
Speaker 3: And then I just kind of was like in my
Speaker 3: head like on autopilot, and I was. I put on
Speaker 3: my work uniform, I went in, I was washing dishes
Speaker 3: and all that, and I I was like, after an
Speaker 3: hour and a half, two hours, I was like, I
Speaker 3: can't be here. I gotta go home. And I told
Speaker 3: my boss and then I went home and I and
Speaker 3: I just I remember even though I at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, like I didn't like Halo five's campaign.
Speaker 3: It was the perfect It was the exact thing I
Speaker 3: needed at the time to like take my mind off
Speaker 3: of what was happening, you know, my family life. So
Speaker 3: there was that the But a fun story is like
Speaker 3: not that I blew off school or something or called
Speaker 3: out sick, but there was one weekend where my buddy
Speaker 3: Chris had gotten Halo three because I think it came out,
Speaker 3: you know, pretty early into the into the two thousand
Speaker 3: and seventh school year and first month. Yeah, we like
Speaker 3: had a sleepover at his house, and you know, I
Speaker 3: had homework or whatever to do, but slept over Saturday,
Speaker 3: played it Halo three all night Saturday, woke up, played
Speaker 3: it for like ten hours on Sunday, you know, fron
Speaker 3: like ate breakfast or whatever. I remember we ate a
Speaker 3: whole thing of oreos, and you know, I had to
Speaker 3: go home at like six or seven pm, and I
Speaker 3: started walking home felt like complete dog shit because I
Speaker 3: had the worst diet that day. And I just remember
Speaker 3: walking home being like, oh man, I so glad I
Speaker 3: didn't do my homework, dude.
Speaker 4: That's that's you know, it's bad when as a kid
Speaker 4: you're aware of how bad your diet was. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because like when you're a kid,
Speaker 4: you I feel like, even like deep into your twenties,
Speaker 4: you can kind of eat whatever and it doesn't feel
Speaker 4: like much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like as a kid to be like I've
Speaker 2: got acid reflex.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I felt like a stomach ache. I was like,
Speaker 1: I feel like shit, so tired.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the there's two for me where like
Speaker 4: I think the day it was like my first year
Speaker 4: I think of college, or maybe my second year, the
Speaker 4: beginning of my second year where Halo four came out
Speaker 4: and it was like just brand new, and it was
Speaker 4: the day that came out.
Speaker 2: It was Tuesday, was election day. I remember that.
Speaker 4: I remember because they came out in the same day.
Speaker 4: We all went to school and we me and my
Speaker 4: friends would go into the lounge before we would go
Speaker 4: it was college. We would go into the lounge. We
Speaker 4: would like kind of get our coffee or whatever, and
Speaker 4: we would just sit and chat before our day started.
Speaker 2: And we drove to school, sat.
Speaker 4: In that lounge and we're like, you guys, just want
Speaker 4: to go home and play Halo, And then we did.
Speaker 4: We just let we was a complete waste of everybody's
Speaker 4: time and money. Tech because it's fucking college, we're paying
Speaker 4: to go really stupid. But then the other one was
Speaker 4: was Skyrim. Was when Skyrim came out, I didn't jump
Speaker 4: on Skyrim immediately. I didn't really like again, I didn't
Speaker 4: play Elder Scrolls Oblivion.
Speaker 2: I didn't really know what it was.
Speaker 4: I wasn't really near those games at the time. But
Speaker 4: eleven eleven eleven came around, and that was the first
Speaker 4: year of college, Magical Day, and I mean, yeah, I'll
Speaker 4: never forget it. I'll never forget that. But I remember
Speaker 4: going in and fucking nobody was there. No one like
Speaker 4: there was like it was I think genuinely I'm exaggerating now.
Speaker 4: There were people there, but like nobody that I knew
Speaker 4: was in school. There were some professors I had that
Speaker 4: had canceled the day that I didn't see, and I
Speaker 4: was like, well, what, I'm going home and I didn't
Speaker 4: even like I didn't even have Skyrim to play, but
Speaker 4: I knew my friends were playing skyras so I just
Speaker 4: went over their house and I watched them play.
Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck is this? Like I
Speaker 2: don't know what I'm seeing, Like is this cool? Like
Speaker 2: I don't care? And they were like, guys, you do,
Speaker 2: and they were like you don't.
Speaker 4: You don't understand, man, it's amazing, And I was like
Speaker 4: all right, And then a couple of weeks went by
Speaker 4: and people wouldn't shut the fuck up about it, and
Speaker 4: so I was like, Okay, let me I have to know.
Speaker 2: Now I don't know what the hell I'm seeing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a similar so I got like that.
Speaker 4: So I got Skyrim and I immediately was like I was, yeah.
Speaker 3: You had to be part of the social group, dude. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: I just had to know.
Speaker 2: I was more frustrated that I didn't get I didn't
Speaker 2: get it, you know, because I was just like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck is this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we bullied people that didn't play Skyrim in school,
Speaker 3: like because that was that was high school. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: if you didn't play Skyrim, it was like what the
Speaker 3: fuck what that's you played games? What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, I was hooked on it pretty immediately,
Speaker 4: like like it's it's kind of crazy how quickly, but
Speaker 4: like that was the That was a funny moment for
Speaker 4: me because I was like, damn, I went home because
Speaker 4: of a video game and I didn't even own it
Speaker 4: or play it. Or care so it sticks out to me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's like just a weird just a weird port point
Speaker 4: in time. Mixed Fruit wrote in he says, hey, Snark
Speaker 4: Crew and act man, here's a simple he says, here's
Speaker 4: a simple, but gay question. It's not a gay question,
Speaker 4: Oh boys, I think gay about this question says what's
Speaker 4: your favorite video game weapon? For me, it's the Patriot
Speaker 4: from MGS three because of the dumb reasoning, because the
Speaker 4: stupid reasoning for it having unlimited AMMO being the inside
Speaker 4: mechanism is shaped like an Infinity symbol.
Speaker 2: That is hilarious. I love that that is the official
Speaker 2: reason for why that dough. It's like a mobious strip
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 4: But fair video game weapon is like, I mean, I
Speaker 4: can give you like a like ones that come to mind.
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's other ones, but that Halo two Energy
Speaker 4: sword is next level.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Energy Sword in Halo two is like unreasonably
Speaker 2: good because it's just it's completely broken.
Speaker 4: It's not fair at all. You could sort and cancel
Speaker 4: with it, the sword canceling that that you could grapple.
Speaker 3: It also had like a quick close range attack that
Speaker 3: you could spam and then a long range lunge, and
Speaker 3: then it also had infinite AMMO and multiplayer and you
Speaker 3: could also you could pull it out super fast and
Speaker 3: then immediately slice something.
Speaker 2: It felt so good, My favorite, my favorite thing.
Speaker 4: And I only learned how to do it recently, like
Speaker 4: in the last couple of months, because I was curious
Speaker 4: and I was just like, I just realized I'd never
Speaker 4: done this. But if you were holding like a long
Speaker 4: range weapon like a sniper rifle or something and aimed
Speaker 4: in and the radical was read oh yeah, and if
Speaker 4: you pressed there was like something It's like, if you
Speaker 4: just press the buttons in the right way, you could
Speaker 4: do the sword lunch from as far away as the
Speaker 4: gun would let you shoot, basically, so you could like
Speaker 4: so you would see somebody like flying towards you with
Speaker 4: a sword from like across the app, and you'd be
Speaker 4: completely fucked and helpless.
Speaker 3: They used to do these really old like tutorial videos.
Speaker 3: They'd throw on some death metal song and it'd be
Speaker 3: like Halo two glitches and jump tricks, be like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would always be it would always be like
Speaker 2: let let the bodies, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and but they were doing that, and I
Speaker 3: used to think that was so cool because like back
Speaker 3: in the day, you know, you didn't have all these
Speaker 3: videos of people like going into games and being like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, let's let's use console commands and break into this. No,
Speaker 3: if you wanted to break out of the maps, you
Speaker 3: had to like find glitches that were in the game.
Speaker 3: That was one of them, and that was super cool.
Speaker 3: But favorite favorite weapon, I mean, energy sword was one
Speaker 3: that came to my mind. Gravity Hammer is also pretty
Speaker 3: pretty fucking awesome, just the whole physics behind it. I
Speaker 3: would also say the auto shotgun and Left for Dead
Speaker 3: two is just that one's just feels really any gun
Speaker 3: in Left for Dead two feels great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Left for Dead two was special or Left for
Speaker 4: Dead in general, Like, it's so crazy that Back for
Speaker 4: Blood missed the mark as much as it did because
Speaker 4: on paper, I just don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they fucked it up.
Speaker 3: You don't want like cards, you don't want a card
Speaker 3: game in your zombie shooter, zombie survival shooter.
Speaker 2: I can't even express you how much I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't even I don't even know.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not even cards are like the one
Speaker 4: there was like, I'm not I'm not in the magic
Speaker 4: I'm not in the I'm not.
Speaker 2: I never got into Heartstone like I just I don't.
Speaker 4: I collected Pokemon cards for the collecting aspect of it
Speaker 4: when I was a kid, and then I got all
Speaker 4: one fifty put in a binder, and then never bothered
Speaker 4: again because the second they came out with another, like
Speaker 4: here's another Hunter, I'm like, You're gonna keep doing this
Speaker 4: for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: I'm already.
Speaker 1: You did your due diligence, I did you.
Speaker 4: You promised me that I could collect them all, and
Speaker 4: then you reneged on your promise by adding more.
Speaker 2: Fuck you.
Speaker 4: I don't respect I don't respect any any more generations.
Speaker 4: Although a quick piss now go ahead, okay, yeah it
Speaker 4: see see if I was if I were him, I
Speaker 4: would have just peed all.
Speaker 2: Over my head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, usually like all over my own pain in my mouth.
Speaker 1: I saw a chimp do it once and I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: that's actually really convenient.
Speaker 2: It's fucking are you. I was like this, I mean,
Speaker 2: I did literally see a chimp doing that, but that's
Speaker 2: what I was asking that is. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's that's really larious. It was actually
Speaker 1: kind of funny because it's like like if I saw
Speaker 1: a human being doing it, be like, oh, I'm very disturbed.
Speaker 1: But the chimp was like, I was like the chip
Speaker 1: look was having a fucking blast. So I was like,
Speaker 1: that's funny. I mean, I wonder what he thinks of that,
Speaker 1: Like I wonder if he's aware of him, Like how
Speaker 1: absurd that is? I don't know, I wonder.
Speaker 2: Oh but uh oh what is it? Weapons? Weapons? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Very easy, very easy. Blades of chaosist by default because
Speaker 1: I just that's just my my jam.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then another obvious one, I guess would be the uh,
Speaker 1: the Lancer, because fucking lancer.
Speaker 2: Brother, Oh yeah, what are we talking about? That should
Speaker 2: have been damn that very saw this stupid locus and
Speaker 2: then it's such a fucking sick Damn I'm gonna locus.
Speaker 1: Uh oh that I I don't every once in a
Speaker 1: while when I'll see like I haven't been to a
Speaker 1: convention in a long time, but every once in a
Speaker 1: while I see like some Lancer replicas or people would make,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, why don't I have one? I Like,
Speaker 1: every time I see one, I'm like, why don't I
Speaker 1: have one? And then I thought about years ago, like
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. I remember like that was one of
Speaker 1: the I was one of the purchases that I thought like,
Speaker 1: this is an irresponsible purchase and I really want it,
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm gonna be I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: good about it.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do it because I don't need this.
Speaker 2: And it was like a perfect replica of a Gears
Speaker 2: of War answer you, I think I now realized that
Speaker 2: I do. I did in fact need it, and I
Speaker 2: should have bought it.
Speaker 4: It was like three hundred bucks or whatever, which is
Speaker 4: like now is like that's fucking like now, that thing's
Speaker 4: probably like seven hundred dollars, I think probably, so, like
Speaker 4: I really should have just bought it because it was
Speaker 4: the Lancer is fucking awesome.
Speaker 3: Would have been a smart investment.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Hey what if I could I could have used
Speaker 2: that thing? Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Okay, one other weapon and I thought of while I
Speaker 3: was paying the wonder waffle in Black Ops won in
Speaker 3: World at War?
Speaker 2: What's the wonder Waffle? You guys never played Cod Cod Zombies.
Speaker 2: I played it, but I was never left the kind
Speaker 2: of zombies. Guy. It's like a lot.
Speaker 3: It's like a German a wonder weapon because like the nine.
Speaker 3: He's in like late into World War two, had this
Speaker 3: like Wonder Weapon program. It was like, oh, these tools
Speaker 3: are gonna save the war for us, and the wonder
Speaker 3: it's the Oh yeah, I do know this. We always
Speaker 3: called it the Wonder Waffle because we just imagined an
Speaker 3: l at the end. It was just like a super
Speaker 3: weapon that had three shots, but if you shot it,
Speaker 3: it would chain react and automatically kill every zombie like
Speaker 3: within range up to like fifteen or twenty. It was awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds cool.
Speaker 2: Oh. Also shout out to the to the Wabbage as.
Speaker 1: Labajack's good one.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that's a good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gabaejack's Labajack's pretty up there. In my opinion, this
Speaker 2: is such a ridiculous. Yeah, what is this.
Speaker 4: We'll do two more and then we'll uh, we'll wrap
Speaker 4: things up. But Faral sentient penis barking at Bryce Alice
Speaker 4: Howard wrote in all right, these are the kind of people,
Speaker 4: these are the kind of names that we've inspired.
Speaker 3: You've got a great community. I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: It's whatever time, sure, Absolutely, Faral Faral sentient penis barking
Speaker 4: at Bryce Dallas Howard wrote in he said hey, acting male,
Speaker 4: if you and the Snark Boys had a superhero team
Speaker 4: up team it went against a group of your own
Speaker 4: super villains like Quantum TV, who would they be and
Speaker 4: what would the teams be called? I don't know what
Speaker 4: the teams would be called, but I man, super villains,
Speaker 4: I don't even know. I feel like most of the
Speaker 4: people who hated me back in the day are kind
Speaker 4: of gone or just yeah, like no, bullshit's gone.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Coach Redpill is literally dead. He got killed in the Ukrainy.
Speaker 2: That's actually legitimately. I don't even know who that is.
Speaker 4: But dude, so he was some he was some manispet guy.
Speaker 4: He was some maniscare guy. He just he gave like
Speaker 4: h it was the type of guy like I don't
Speaker 4: know how would you describe it.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, he was like so coach red mey. So
Speaker 1: he was basically coaching young men on how to be
Speaker 1: masculine essentially and how to bag a woman.
Speaker 2: This guy looked like a fuck. He looked like he
Speaker 2: looked like like just a.
Speaker 1: Like you know, Gonzo from fucking the the the Muppets,
Speaker 1: Like he had this like he's just the last person
Speaker 1: you would expect to be giving out advice because you
Speaker 1: look at the guy and you're.
Speaker 2: Like, look like not what I remember.
Speaker 4: I remember when I remember when Lacey Green and I
Speaker 4: were dating, he made this weird video kind of like
Speaker 4: going into like a really diving deep into our relationship
Speaker 4: from like a really weird ang Like he had like
Speaker 4: multiple cameras set up so like that it would switch
Speaker 4: from one angle.
Speaker 2: He's like so unneed, but he was weird.
Speaker 4: And then he ended up I don't know, going to
Speaker 4: Russia or Ukraine or something, and they just arrested him
Speaker 4: and literally came he was in he was in.
Speaker 1: Act, he was in Ukraine, and then he wouldn't shut
Speaker 1: the like during the war and he wouldn't shut up
Speaker 1: about like he was basically a propagandist for Russia. And
Speaker 1: then they in Ukraine during war time, and it's like
Speaker 1: and so they bagged that.
Speaker 2: That's a real story.
Speaker 3: That's a bold career choice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. As a smart guy, a very smart guy.
Speaker 2: What was the question, what would our team name be?
Speaker 1: The team name?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not I'm more I'm more thinking
Speaker 2: about like what would be quant to TV? Is a
Speaker 2: great one to TV? Would be there?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: Of course?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, who else if you bivy beeps with anybody else,
Speaker 1: I mean anyone like notable.
Speaker 2: I feel like acting it's pretty well behaved. It's really on.
Speaker 3: Twitter when when some nice where, I'm just like, I
Speaker 3: just want to say some ship Like Twitter is kind
Speaker 3: of my outlet for ship that I feel like I
Speaker 3: can't say. And sometimes I ruffle people's feathers as you do.
Speaker 3: But a lot of times I also like will reach
Speaker 3: out to some of my U my biggest haters. They
Speaker 3: might be other content creators, are just random people and
Speaker 3: I'll talk to them. And a lot of times people
Speaker 3: that I've beefed with, we we talk and then we
Speaker 3: become friends after that, and somebodys I kind of feel
Speaker 3: like goku not to be like, uh, what's.
Speaker 2: The word you recruit people. It's like not to be
Speaker 2: so full.
Speaker 3: Of myself, but the idea of like, oh you meet
Speaker 3: Oh who the fuck's this?
Speaker 2: Oh what you get?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 2: Can you talk shit to?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I respect it, you know, and then kind
Speaker 3: of yeah, become friends. I mean maybe the HEELVER'SUS babyface guy,
Speaker 3: but that was like, oh that's right, well he's but
Speaker 3: like the Starfield video, I did was more than just
Speaker 3: about him. It was like a whole Starfield hot takes thing,
Speaker 3: and there was a lot of hot takes going on
Speaker 3: around that time. But that was also like that guy
Speaker 3: wasn't That wasn't personal though. It was just kind of
Speaker 3: like random throwaway internet beef, whereas like the Quantum and
Speaker 3: any Pants stuff was lot more a lot more personal.
Speaker 4: Right, that was a lot more like the Quantity I
Speaker 4: remember we talked, We talked about our lives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was the one life show we did.
Speaker 1: That was the topic that we chose because there's one
Speaker 1: At times, those were fun times. Uh, that reminds me
Speaker 1: of that guy. Review tchech us a beef with them
Speaker 1: too with Quantum TV, and that that guy was fun
Speaker 1: in its own his own right.
Speaker 2: Review everybody think it feels like everybody was Quantit TV
Speaker 2: was so weirdly like he was so common.
Speaker 3: He was like he was like his own home monitor.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah right, that is wild too, because I
Speaker 1: you know, I just don't understand that you got to
Speaker 1: dedicate a lot of time to do that, Like how
Speaker 1: do you have time to to function as an adult
Speaker 1: and do it?
Speaker 3: It perplexes me, man, Yeah, honestly, like maybe a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago, I had this idea that I thought
Speaker 3: would have been pretty funny because I'm not really someone
Speaker 3: that holds grudges for too long. I don't I don't
Speaker 3: really hate anybody. There's things that I hate, and maybe
Speaker 3: there's people I think sometimes I'll fuck that guy, yeah,
Speaker 3: but I don't really hold on to hate or anything
Speaker 3: like that. I get over stuffed rather quickly. And I
Speaker 3: thought it would have been funny if Quantum and I
Speaker 3: started a podcast together, Like I would have been like, like,
Speaker 3: who cares about the beef, Like, let's just like, let's
Speaker 3: hang out and talk about video games. And I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to expose you or nothing, but let's just like,
Speaker 3: let's fucking do it, because why not?
Speaker 2: That would be so that would be that would be fun.
Speaker 2: I hate.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what what the fucking what was? How
Speaker 1: did he become infamous?
Speaker 2: Infamous? What did he?
Speaker 1: I don't remember what happened?
Speaker 3: He he copyright striked. So okay, this story kind of
Speaker 3: ties in with a previous video I did, which was
Speaker 3: on console fanboys or Cringe. At the time, there was
Speaker 3: you know, Xbox and PS four series X and PS five,
Speaker 3: there was a lot of like really gay shit on
Speaker 3: Twitter being posted, and I was making fun of a
Speaker 3: bunch of those guys, and Mischief was one of the
Speaker 3: people who was also making fun of like console fanboys.
Speaker 3: So I found I met a bunch of like much
Speaker 3: smaller YouTubers that I became friends with in the console
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Warrior, because they tried to expose me for
Speaker 3: like you know, saying slurs ages ago and then these
Speaker 3: these other content creators had my back and so uh yeah,
Speaker 3: I was like I was like friends with Mischief and
Speaker 3: then Mischief did a video on Quantum TV. Mischief had
Speaker 3: like two thousand suns or something. Yeah, and then Quantum
Speaker 3: TV copyright struck him. But because I, like me and
Speaker 3: Mischief had been part of this little, small, little community
Speaker 3: of content creators that all knew each other. It was
Speaker 3: like he told us about it and was like asking
Speaker 3: for advice and stuff, and that's how I picked up
Speaker 3: on it. And you know, from there, you see the
Speaker 3: elden Ring Hot Takes video or you see his elden
Speaker 3: Ring reviews and you're.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, this is cool, Oh this is that's right.
Speaker 1: The elder Ring eling. It was he was like he
Speaker 1: was like saying it was too hard or something. I
Speaker 1: can't remember it with something.
Speaker 3: Like that, right, he had the we had the worst opinions.
Speaker 1: It was like a game that's not for everyone, is
Speaker 1: a game that shouldn't be made, and that's it.
Speaker 2: That's it. Okay, you can yeah, you see you guys understand.
Speaker 8: Like you hear that.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh boy, it's gotta be that's crazy.
Speaker 3: That's such a.
Speaker 1: Crazy any podcast copy copyright strike me?
Speaker 3: And then like it just kind of kept going back
Speaker 3: and forth and then escalating, and then he called my
Speaker 3: mom and I was he called That's right.
Speaker 1: Wasn't there another thing?
Speaker 2: Was it? Didn't you photoshop him in front of like
Speaker 2: a hot dog or something?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: It was the cucumber because he had some comments about
Speaker 3: like rich you suck on cucumbers in a very provocative way.
Speaker 3: And then I just had some shitty edit where it's
Speaker 3: like I had a still image of quant going like
Speaker 3: that face and put a que I edited a cucumber there,
Speaker 3: and so there was yeah, because the video was taken
Speaker 3: down for like nudity and sexual content. Yeah, and so
Speaker 3: I was like, what could it have been? That?
Speaker 4: That's what I remember specifically was that like the nudity
Speaker 4: stragos like you.
Speaker 3: But that was the real reason they took it down,
Speaker 3: And the real reason was I had used YouTube videos
Speaker 3: about community guidelines and it included footage of I think
Speaker 3: two of the vice presidents at YouTube, and so they
Speaker 3: were not happy that they were in the video and
Speaker 3: they ended up taking those videos actually off of their
Speaker 3: community guidelines pages, which was crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wow, it's insane. A podcast with you and
Speaker 2: Quantum would go it would be it would go hard.
Speaker 2: I think it would have been, like maybe not now,
Speaker 2: because I think that most people kind of like, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's like.
Speaker 1: I think he's like, like I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: incarcerator or something I remember or something. No, I swear
Speaker 1: something happened with that.
Speaker 3: I think he had some trouble with the law and
Speaker 3: like he split from his wife, I think. And no,
Speaker 3: he's doing his thing on TikTok. It's like yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean he's he's living his own life. I think
Speaker 3: he learned his last thing about copyright striking people for
Speaker 3: criticizing him. You doesn't do that anymore, at least to
Speaker 3: my knowledge.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so that would have been funny, though, that
Speaker 2: would have been funny. I don't.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of the same way where it's like I forget,
Speaker 4: like if it's usually people have to genuinely remind me
Speaker 4: that I hate them, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 4: I've had people uh, Like I think the most recent
Speaker 4: one that I can remember was uh. And this is,
Speaker 4: by the way, still a while ago. This is maybe
Speaker 4: like twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three, maybe even
Speaker 4: a little maybe a little earlier was Francesco. When Francesca
Speaker 4: Ramsey from MTV mtvd coded brought me back off randomly, right.
Speaker 4: I think it was around the time that I was
Speaker 4: doing his like a pology to he or whatever, and
Speaker 4: she like brought me up and I was like, I
Speaker 4: didn't but I haven't.
Speaker 2: Thought about you, and yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. It's wild
Speaker 2: because I genuinely, I genuinely, dude, I made like two
Speaker 2: three videos maybe about her Max.
Speaker 1: You know what she thought she thought that.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm convinced she thought I was either that's that's
Speaker 4: or like or vice versa, I think, or something like
Speaker 4: that because I'm the same person. Because he because she
Speaker 4: insists that ITEMS made a video about her but I'm like, I,
Speaker 4: I am one hundred percent sure that's not true. No,
Speaker 4: that was in his wheelhouse like I would have I
Speaker 4: would have remembered that, And no, that did not happen.
Speaker 4: So like it was a whole bunch of weird shit
Speaker 4: about that. But she brought me up again in some
Speaker 4: like uh rant online about like how like I would
Speaker 4: never forgive uh I dubs or whatever, and that goes
Speaker 4: to you, Chris, you too, Chris, And I'm like, what
Speaker 4: I haven't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, See, it sucks to hold grudges because that shit
Speaker 3: eats you from the inside. It's like, why hold on
Speaker 3: to that? Like why I care so much?
Speaker 4: I genuinely just forget after like a couple of months,
Speaker 4: Like there's only one person where I feel like I've
Speaker 4: thought about it, where yeah, I probably wouldn't fuck with
Speaker 4: that person in any capacity. But that's like one out
Speaker 4: of like genuinely probably thousands of people I've interacted with
Speaker 4: at this point. So it's like, I don't know, I
Speaker 4: can't even imagine yeah, sitting on some and then and
Speaker 4: then speaking about it randomly like completely fucking unprovoked.
Speaker 2: I'm doing my own fucking thing.
Speaker 3: This is what happens when the when the questions bring
Speaker 3: up Quantum TV, we go down the rabbit hole of
Speaker 3: all our like biggest beefs and.
Speaker 1: Controversies and all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't behave though, Derek, you don't really
Speaker 3: have any my yeah.
Speaker 2: My thing was like the.
Speaker 1: The worst I ever got fucked with was by like
Speaker 1: actual white supremacists.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: They were just like, oh, they get my email address,
Speaker 1: my business email, and they signed me up for a
Speaker 1: neo Nazi web side. So I got a notification, Hey, welcome,
Speaker 1: new member, and I'm like, oh, what the fuck? Or
Speaker 1: some guy that was a grip. It was.
Speaker 2: It was literally ship like that. I was like, I
Speaker 2: had to.
Speaker 1: It was funny because whoever moderates that website, they were
Speaker 1: very nice because I explained to them, hey, I actually
Speaker 1: didn't sign up for this, like oh no, no worry,
Speaker 1: we'll take you off. And I was like, oh, what
Speaker 1: a fucking nice Nazi, like very understanding, you.
Speaker 3: Know, you actually believed all that ship and you were
Speaker 3: a group to join.
Speaker 1: But there was there was one guy that I actually
Speaker 1: missed him beefing with us. His name is a Tarik
Speaker 1: Nasid and he's the conspiracy guy.
Speaker 3: He's gone isn't.
Speaker 2: I saw his name.
Speaker 4: I saw his name recently come up for something. I
Speaker 4: didn't look too deeply because there was whatever. But I
Speaker 4: think he's uh, he still he.
Speaker 2: I think he probably does, like streams or something.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he was the the like the we called him,
Speaker 1: like the the black supremacist right like he but he
Speaker 1: would just make up ship like he would say like
Speaker 1: black people invented everything, like oh there was a black
Speaker 1: person was the first one to show a Japanese person
Speaker 1: how to use a sword, and basically they're responsible for
Speaker 1: like the samurai. And I'm like, that's fucking that.
Speaker 2: Is that is so wild? But it was so entertaining.
Speaker 1: It was so entertaining, like him talking about stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I like meme format didn't he where he was like
Speaker 1: post like oh yeah he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah I forgot, I forgot. I forgot what the beme was.
Speaker 3: But that image, it was like hating someone for the
Speaker 3: pettiest reason possible or something like that. That that was him.
Speaker 4: I remember he called me Steve Ragan and I still
Speaker 4: see it, like when he made that video about about
Speaker 4: me and like a bunch of us, but like his
Speaker 4: audio was peaking the entire High.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite moments. Me and a one
Speaker 1: of my friends at the time. She was a YouTuber
Speaker 1: named Cassaravera. We just reacted to it and it's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite videos because he's yeah, he was going
Speaker 1: in on like he was like it was me and him,
Speaker 1: like it was this guy named Buntie King who was
Speaker 1: our our Indian Canadian friend or Canadianians, it's say, and
Speaker 1: after a while, like he just can differentiate his brown
Speaker 1: so he must be like a terrorist or something, and
Speaker 1: he just starts like singing crazy shit like Nigga steal
Speaker 1: your camel and I was like, bro, this is crazy, Imber, I've.
Speaker 2: Never heard that one before.
Speaker 4: That's that is I remember that you said it. He
Speaker 4: said it, and I was immediately like it's like I
Speaker 4: don't even know. It's like hearing a song I haven't heard,
Speaker 4: like since two thousand and seven, and like I can
Speaker 4: smell the fall air, like that's what just happened. When
Speaker 4: you said that, I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 4: remember that line hitting me like a ton of was
Speaker 4: so funny.
Speaker 2: He went.
Speaker 1: He went pretty hard on me, talking about my my ears,
Speaker 1: like that holds my ears and you know when people
Speaker 1: call him gauges, right, and he was like, what do
Speaker 1: you call those? And he's reading the Chat and he
Speaker 1: was like godges and he's like in he's those fucking
Speaker 1: godges and he's like putting dicks in his ears and
Speaker 1: he was going, he was going, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: anyone that hasn't like seen that shit, I think I can.
Speaker 1: I'll unearth it. I'll find it because it's it's a
Speaker 1: great fucking rant.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 3: That is a generational hater there. That is generational hating.
Speaker 3: And he he was like, oh, you know, I grew
Speaker 3: up on the three sixty. I can I can respect
Speaker 3: that to a certain degree, just the vitriol and the
Speaker 3: bile that can come out of one's mouth.
Speaker 1: Speaking of three sixty. It actually was a three sixty
Speaker 1: moment when I realized that, uh he was. I went
Speaker 1: to a so just a local black owned bookstore. This
Speaker 1: was when I was thirteen, seventh grade, and I saw
Speaker 1: a book called the Art of Making and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's hilarious, and I tried to get my aunt to
Speaker 1: buy it for me and she's like no, like like
Speaker 1: this is stupid. And turns out that was Treaka sheet no. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so when I looked up his books and I
Speaker 1: was like, I can't fucking believe this is the guy.
Speaker 1: Like I couldn't fucking believe it. So it's been in
Speaker 1: my life for a long time, middle life for a
Speaker 1: long time.
Speaker 2: Man. All right, well, on that note, let's uh, what
Speaker 2: are we at seventeen? Yeah, let's wrap it.
Speaker 1: We could do like rapid fire questions, quick answers if
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 2: Uh, they're all pretty I feel like a lot of
Speaker 2: people have similar one. We got to a lot of them,
Speaker 2: and a lot of them are Halo. Really, I don't
Speaker 2: want to spend the whole time talking about Halo, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? I hate, but a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of them.
Speaker 4: A lot of them are like like a Columbary, you
Speaker 4: are the right said he says. He Hey, guys, especially
Speaker 4: act man. I have a question for mister man. How
Speaker 4: does it feel knowing that you're a gay, woke comed.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of that.
Speaker 3: Oh oh well that's that's you know, Well, we were
Speaker 3: we were talking about, you know, like putting together the
Speaker 3: top ten woke video games. Leftists may cry woke divers
Speaker 3: to Batman hud Night like it's it's it's I'm very
Speaker 3: comfortable in my own skin. I will be taking a
Speaker 3: dick in the ass later tonight. You guys are welcome
Speaker 3: to join me. It's great stuff, love it. Not only
Speaker 3: do I like taking Dixon the ass, but I also
Speaker 3: feel like the government should own the means of production.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, I think there should be no there
Speaker 2: should there should be no profit motive been anything at.
Speaker 3: All unless it's homosexual related, right, right.
Speaker 2: Right, unless it's something yeah, yeah, if you don't think
Speaker 2: we could.
Speaker 3: All agree, Thanks for the question.
Speaker 1: All agreed, Yeah, thank you, right, question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's but yeah, so here, So here's the thing,
Speaker 4: so we uh, at the end of these what we
Speaker 4: normally do is we read the audience names. Now, sometimes
Speaker 4: this goes on, well, we have a guess that will
Speaker 4: be will be a little bit better about it.
Speaker 2: But these these names are absolute cancer.
Speaker 4: The whole point is people pay twenty five dollars up
Speaker 4: and they changed they changed their name to whatever, and
Speaker 4: I have to read it. Hell yeah, go for it
Speaker 4: if you're if you're down to stick around. So like, uh, yeah,
Speaker 4: so remember patron of concess of snart Tank snark Tank
Speaker 4: dot shop for merch that's where you can get that,
Speaker 4: uh that shirt of cloud Strife leaning over his sword
Speaker 4: because he's on fentanyl.
Speaker 2: You can get it. You can get that over there.
Speaker 2: That's real, by the way, Yeah, it's final fantasy. Oh
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I gotta write No, no, I got to
Speaker 3: write that one down. Final it's permission.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean it's it's a real shirt I
Speaker 2: got I I still don't have one. Actually, I should
Speaker 2: just get it. I don't know what the fuck I'm
Speaker 2: waiting for. It's but uh so.
Speaker 4: We're gonna read our twenty five dollars patrons now. Uh so,
Speaker 4: remember you can join up over there, make me read
Speaker 4: your horrible name. Uh but yeah, count me, I guess.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's no kings just means I here to
Speaker 2: count it. No, no, no, you know what.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have you count him down?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, acting I counted three two one three
Speaker 2: two one anal Footcake cobbba Iward you Willie Tigue Jersey
Speaker 2: No drawls. Young Chris getting maliciously pissed on by a cat.
Speaker 2: That would be that would be tragic.
Speaker 4: The Dead Spider a secret SiGe off to make Chris
Speaker 4: raygun gay SI secret a no secret straight vegeta uses
Speaker 4: Gaelic gun.
Speaker 2: Wait, give that man an award, Give that man an award.
Speaker 4: This is uh, that's the that's the dumbest one I've
Speaker 4: read in a while. Uh, Trump I framing through the
Speaker 4: consent of women.
Speaker 2: And children getting big black sex.
Speaker 4: He has realized it in the lights and a light
Speaker 4: skin twink delta Gamma literally fed this toddler last week.
Speaker 2: Why is it still crying? Squimp is bugs clam you
Speaker 2: that's quite the third?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 4: Snart tags hung his Transgi going to Ohio Obese drauger
Speaker 4: Chris saying the mortar name more and more quiet day
Speaker 4: without swinging number four? Has it been four days?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I like how they keep more track of than and
Speaker 4: we we know him in real life and have been
Speaker 4: to his home. I am going mortar call that pussy
Speaker 4: the matrix becuz I'm this bitch and I can't get
Speaker 4: out what the hell was Some of these are schizophrenic, genuinely,
Speaker 4: like I think, I think.
Speaker 1: Genuine like you can't get out of that pussy man.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's so stupid.
Speaker 4: Come on, scientists, Come on, It doesn't take a rocket
Speaker 4: surgeon switch switch swingey and Derek again for the troll
Speaker 4: ll two rats in a trench coat. Sam Porter bitches
Speaker 4: eight yurine and busted on his face, melted through the bone.
Speaker 4: Spider pointing eight guns at you from the popemobile, Perserker,
Speaker 4: black Man backshotting, browly, reckless Rhino the Sloker to hys therapy.
Speaker 2: Randy Pitchford comes in his own ears.
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: That's a good one.
Speaker 3: That's a good one. A very relevant it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's timely. That's one thing I can say about
Speaker 4: these are all very timely. My Chris Hansen TOAMAGATCHI needs
Speaker 4: to hit your vape. Charlie kirk Moore, like, surely in
Speaker 4: the dirt. That's not that's crazy. It's that's crazy, old
Speaker 4: man spaghetti nuts, dom Nation. Uh the bullet be killed,
Speaker 4: mister guns. I'm very friendly, I promise Derek not Chavin
Speaker 4: is innocent hashtag for him, round eyed Asian moving into
Speaker 4: his own place after twenty six years. Hey, Caston in
Speaker 4: the Powerpuff Girls writer's room, be like, what if instead
Speaker 4: of rowdy rough boys.
Speaker 1: Oh, a bunch of n words? Yeah, of course it's
Speaker 1: a yeah.
Speaker 2: God, that is that is sweety sense of humor. It
Speaker 2: is just putting the N word in sween. Please show
Speaker 2: off your sneaker collection?
Speaker 4: Is there even one good reason the conservative, genuinely brandy
Speaker 4: Hutzel Ben Shapiro crashing out after finding out.
Speaker 2: His sister got breast reductions?
Speaker 1: Dude, that was a real like thing that happened where
Speaker 1: a bunch of people legit because she made she put
Speaker 1: out a video saying she's getting surgery like on her
Speaker 1: breast for some reason. But the immediately people thought I
Speaker 1: was a breast reduction and like the internet was on
Speaker 1: fire for a minute.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know about that. Yeah, that was That
Speaker 2: was a fun moment. That was fun.
Speaker 4: Blonde blue eyed German man campaigning to make Pokemon two
Speaker 4: d again. Eagles be taking penis. I don't even know
Speaker 4: what that means. What you can take a cock with
Speaker 4: my innis my dick be longer than a silk song?
Speaker 2: Run back? It's pretty good, Pericles ow out.
Speaker 4: Oh my Thugzilla come regained his fifty four baby mom As,
Speaker 4: none of this makes sense.
Speaker 2: GTA four swing set glitch classic stuff, Sir. The GTA
Speaker 2: four swingset glitch is like some genuine old school good
Speaker 2: shit funnling swings cut into the American Heritage Foundation. Bum
Speaker 2: Strokersdicula nice whoa. It was weird.
Speaker 4: Saw Derek sleeping on the train, so I touched him.
Speaker 4: FANASI has Greek out of the herb. The real Kanye here,
Speaker 4: big meaty stinks canola, Joe reloaded. I have no dick
Speaker 4: and I must cream. Oh that's pretty good. Gay actor
Speaker 4: Rosebud delicious. Jesus Cannon and dragon Ball? Z is he
Speaker 4: do they say Jesus and Dragonball? I think that might
Speaker 4: be true.
Speaker 3: It probably appears in like the background shot of some
Speaker 3: episode or something. They're always throwing weird ass character designs
Speaker 3: dragon Balls.
Speaker 2: I could believe that in like one of the early dubs,
Speaker 2: like one of the first, like maybe the Ocean dub.
Speaker 2: Like something crazy he happens and somebody does say Jesus Christ,
Speaker 2: which would imply that Christianity at the very least exists
Speaker 2: in dragon Ball, which.
Speaker 1: Is a huge thing.
Speaker 3: Could Jesus beat Goku? Though?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Oh? Is that is is t.
Speaker 2: To be determined? Sorry, I can't. I had a burrito.
Speaker 4: Kingston's nephew. He makes he makes visits uncomfortable. Heath get
Speaker 4: back on the fields. But what I miss gibds. Uh,
Speaker 4: you should all dress up as an oreo cookie.
Speaker 2: No, Uh, why don't.
Speaker 4: Why don't Plankton run into the Krusty Crab with a
Speaker 4: gun and blow everyone's ship smooth off?
Speaker 1: It's a good question.
Speaker 2: Had that boilet. Charlie's great predators are jabaked coated. Cakeston
Speaker 2: is becoming genuinely irritating to listen to please fire him?
Speaker 2: Now done?
Speaker 1: We got the new lineup?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got the new lineup. Uh? Shot up.
Speaker 4: Uncle Charlie Sweeney is the tritagonist live action star tank
Speaker 4: screen played by Piers Morgan and Derek his Destiny.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: If I had to do a podcast with Piers Morgan
Speaker 4: and Destiny, I would simply not this podcast.
Speaker 3: That sounds like a lovely time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's honestly, Jesus Christ, you look like you could
Speaker 4: use a fucking lamp.
Speaker 2: Uh what does that mean? Hispanic at the disco cardboard?
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. How was my Twitter name for a while? Yeah,
Speaker 2: a long long time ago. Uh, I came.
Speaker 4: I came in his gay ass so hard that I
Speaker 4: made em preg Really your next boys, Department of Horror?
Speaker 2: Hey, Google, what's the space movie? From nineteen ninety two?
Speaker 2: Do not google that.
Speaker 4: Games Bond, Octobussy, Ramirez defend the town, slurmaxing. Every time
Speaker 4: I'm in the sheets, I hear gluck cluck cluck, dick
Speaker 4: down needs some come Amazing you guys suck if you
Speaker 4: don't uh, if you know when you puts them in
Speaker 4: the back, you're not hungry enough. Big Boss, Goon, Devil
Speaker 4: the man without coming. They protect the land, they have
Speaker 4: sex with men. Look up Fastinus and behold trust me.
Speaker 2: Hominad.
Speaker 4: Animan's studio made Axel the Hare and ball and meme.
Speaker 4: I don't know what any of that means. Notices Bulge's
Speaker 4: oo Wu, What's this? I can't believe that that's still
Speaker 4: so wild to my shoes. Starting to sound like Candee owns,
Speaker 4: Smitchy the kid honking the fenboy clowns balls had Charlie
Speaker 4: Kirk is my name and Patreon change it to a
Speaker 4: jumble of letters. Adam ruins everything versus Sheldon Cooper. I
Speaker 4: have relapsed and I'm now back on the teet. Jesus
Speaker 4: Hamster in a sock is now plus five after extensive used.
Speaker 4: Chris Raygun in his phil ox era be like we
Speaker 4: only care about killing when we see it in four K.
Speaker 2: What's phil Ox? I don't know what that is. I
Speaker 2: don't know who the fuck is that? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Your reference is lost on us. Sorry, Yush. Since Sweeney's
Speaker 2: the mascot of the group, when are we getting the
Speaker 2: Sweeney plushy in the shop? Ooh? How much? How much
Speaker 2: do we want to do? Dehumanize it and make it?
Speaker 4: We make it like that that mug shot, that mugshot
Speaker 4: we make we make it look like that. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: there was a mug shot that was going viral, dude
Speaker 4: of just this guy who looked like Sweeny, but like
Speaker 4: like A yeah, I like, how do we find I
Speaker 4: haven't printed out somewhere still, that's right?
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I can find it on our Instagram, will
Speaker 1: fast and I'll put it up to the fucking camera, dude.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, put up to the camera. Actman's got to
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 4: It's crazy when Strategy event Revenge to coming out, Craig
Speaker 4: the Canadian.
Speaker 2: Last page.
Speaker 4: Actman commits random acts of violence. They changed their name
Speaker 4: pretty good because I told them you were coming on
Speaker 4: like maybe like two hours before we started. Oh wow,
Speaker 4: because our questions get ridiculous. There's so many it's your boy,
Speaker 4: Shawny d Come shot Gaming. I'm so mad we couldn't
Speaker 4: get that. Yeah, uh, backshots Gaming. He's another one that
Speaker 4: I think at rock.
Speaker 2: Is this true? What happened to the freedom of speech?
Speaker 2: Not freedom of consequences? Fell as?
Speaker 4: It was me, Barry, I'm the one who unwiped your
Speaker 4: ass just as you pulled your pants up?
Speaker 2: Is that reverse flash? That's all right? Right?
Speaker 3: Right? Right?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Because he because he? Yeah, I don't know anything about DC.
Speaker 4: I'm only like barely kind of aware Kim Jong and
Speaker 4: the Keith Core. What's more dangerous?
Speaker 2: Shouting?
Speaker 7: Uh? What is this?
Speaker 4: Shouting the N word as loud as you can or whispering?
Speaker 4: We should form a union in an Amazon warehouse.
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can get this to Wow,
Speaker 1: it's like it's not come on, focus a little better.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: It's horrifying, Like what is that supposed to be? So
Speaker 4: that's a mug shot from some gods? That's a mug
Speaker 4: shot from some guy who's like arrested ship But it
Speaker 4: looks like but it looks like somebody trying to draw
Speaker 4: swing in like the most unflattering way possible.
Speaker 3: Shoulders too.
Speaker 2: It isn't that's that.
Speaker 1: That screenshot particularly is fucking let me show you what
Speaker 1: somebody did as a sketch. Somebody sketched it, like yeah,
Speaker 1: straight up.
Speaker 4: Uh fun fact, the rapture did happen and nobody went
Speaker 4: I heard the rizzler was the only one that got through.
Speaker 4: That's those are the reports that I've been here. Uh no,
Speaker 4: why'd you say no? I'd just say that fumbled the
Speaker 4: six three trans girl. Should I kill myself?
Speaker 2: No? But uh you fumbled. You're always fumbling, like I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't help you. I can I can't help you.
Speaker 2: Charli Kirk is a matter because her husband is Christo
Speaker 2: fascist by comparison. Uh uh, maybe you guys are so
Speaker 2: fucking insensitive it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Maybe Charlie Kirk was just hyper autistic and his special
Speaker 4: interest was getting shot in the crest.
Speaker 2: Fucking crazy.
Speaker 4: You guy's got to relax with they do you really
Speaker 4: abuse this this perk? You guys gay house be like,
Speaker 4: I will guess on Star Tank Obi want you blow me?
Speaker 4: Jackson Vernon so they gave him, call him slipping Jimmy
Speaker 4: Kremlin to Gremlin. Hey player, don't drop the chips and
Speaker 4: get me some ammo. Chris is in the top five
Speaker 4: wiggers of all time. Jason wrhees, that's so dumb, that's
Speaker 4: so stupid.
Speaker 2: I like it. Lincoln Park faint tune.
Speaker 1: All right, what's that fucking string? Baby?
Speaker 2: Anyway? He says.
Speaker 4: After that, he says, I need dick deep inside my whole. Uh,
Speaker 4: don't pull your cock from me.
Speaker 2: Have you seen it? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know what line that's from. I haven't heard
Speaker 4: faint in a Yeah you good, Derek, your roboting lite
Speaker 4: am I uh am? I still she sounds crazy. Help
Speaker 4: me now now you're now, you're better. Whatever, We're gonna.
Speaker 2: Get through it. You got like maybe like two minutes
Speaker 2: left wage Lay five eighty three. I love the way
Speaker 2: it barbecues. Love the way you like the gas. Uh.
Speaker 4: Peppenie Bros. Presents Crash Course Cybertron History Rises. Oh he's gone, Oh.
Speaker 3: Shit, Well, well went too hard on the robot juice.
Speaker 4: Oh well, Doc Doncerson, the Colon Swingy Slasher Mason the
Speaker 4: metal Head. I think and it'll be fine, Uh saying
Speaker 4: gadio Active at carrioke. You sang gadio Active karaoke.
Speaker 2: Was my internet? Fucked up? Boy? Derek? Are you still here, Dom,
Speaker 2: the internet's out. I don't know what to do, Marcus Focus.
Speaker 2: We needed the GPS to find Maria.
Speaker 1: Dim Damn. I shits fucked.
Speaker 2: Dom.
Speaker 1: You need to fix it now before the giant worm
Speaker 1: gets here.
Speaker 4: You guys are sech a little bitches for jumping on
Speaker 4: the show. On head has committed wrong think Bandwagon. We
Speaker 4: never said that at all. We were reading the names.
Speaker 4: This is what's funny is that people will read the names.
Speaker 4: People understand that they can change the name into into
Speaker 4: whatever they want, and I have to say it, and
Speaker 4: then they'll get to that part of the show and
Speaker 4: then they'll get mad about the things that I say,
Speaker 4: and then they'll change they'll address it in the names.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's awesome. That's that's your first Amendment rights right there.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: I appreciate the twenty five dollars, but you're crazy. Can
Speaker 4: we make a story with our names? Lesbian lesbian kind
Speaker 4: Charlie marked uh did JK and JK? Rowling is short
Speaker 4: for gigantic count John Strickland, March eighteen eighty nine. What's
Speaker 4: your signs? Slippery when wet dumb bitch? The first such
Speaker 4: key David presents Pitbull featuring Kesha. Uh, the way Derek
Speaker 4: mispronounces posthumously hurts Lebron would have survived.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: Pre Roz Blake eight nine six. I got Lockjaw doing
Speaker 4: I got I got lockjaw doing graveyard Chips at the
Speaker 4: Dick Sucking Factory, and all I got was lockjaws previously
Speaker 4: mentioned doing a guerrilla spin after sex. It's pretty good.
Speaker 4: Kingston merging with the sand Trout to become gay. I
Speaker 4: don't even know what that means. Did you doo bragged
Speaker 4: about Crypto scamming That cancer pation out of his treatment
Speaker 4: money is one hundred times worse than Charlie Kirk? Of
Speaker 4: course probably, I mean crypto Scamming had cancer pations pretty well. Uh,
Speaker 4: Desk Goopy Percules, Chromo the clown, please help. I can't
Speaker 4: see him to get any bookings. Can you give me
Speaker 4: any advice? Young Colin doing nothing but playing Mega Man
Speaker 4: two for a whole week straight.
Speaker 2: You back? I am back. What happened?
Speaker 1: I don't know it freaked out, but my internet's fun.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, re establishing your connection, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: my connection is there's nothing wrong with it. Everything works
Speaker 1: perfectly fun. So I just refreshed, and I'm good.
Speaker 2: We're on the last week, We're.
Speaker 4: On the last couple. We're on the last couple now,
Speaker 4: so I think I think. I think Memphis was Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4: I don't know what that means, turning point, turning, turning.
Speaker 2: Pale Usa. Jesus.
Speaker 4: If this was the last pit, that's why. That's a
Speaker 4: wild one. That's clever, though, to be fair, that is
Speaker 4: pretty that's that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: If this is the last page, why is there an
Speaker 4: over an hour left to too Blurry, too Bigfoot?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: You fucking you, fucking fucking you, bloody classic video. Love
Speaker 2: that video?
Speaker 4: Sorry, miss Jackson, badly brave? Who is who is New
Speaker 4: York Nick? I think he needs help blowing his weapon?
Speaker 4: Hahill three Personian Hunter and Nate from and rounding out
Speaker 4: our list as always, the King of Haphazard.
Speaker 2: Thank you all for your support. Give props to act
Speaker 2: Man you go check out.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, thank you. Sounds like you guys got
Speaker 3: an incredible audience out here. I mean, what a great
Speaker 3: sense of humor you guys all have.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's wonderful. Pretty good.
Speaker 1: I'm being serious, by the way, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: giving you guys or nothing.
Speaker 2: That was great. Di Let's put it this way.
Speaker 1: When Chris had a little controversy, you know, after Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirk thing and he yeah, I tweeted thoughts and prayers
Speaker 1: and it's it. Yeah. And the result of that was,
Speaker 1: you know, when people were trying to get them fired
Speaker 1: from his other podcast, uh, they they got there was
Speaker 1: more support.
Speaker 3: Oh I think I saw something like that. Yeah. It
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, that's another thing. Is like, man, it's
Speaker 3: one thing to hate what someone says, but to just
Speaker 3: be like all right now, time to get time to
Speaker 3: make their life worse in real life. Right.
Speaker 4: The thing that's the thing that's crazy is that like
Speaker 4: I don't even say shit that's as crazy as people
Speaker 4: who are elected. You know, there are people who are
Speaker 4: elected who are saying crazier shit. So like, why the fuck,
Speaker 4: why are you taking me more seriously than the people
Speaker 4: you you put in charge of like fixing everything?
Speaker 3: Like, oh, they just found the cause of autism, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like they just found that out.
Speaker 1: Finally made a lot of sense though, because like I
Speaker 1: got quite a bit of talent on my my uh
Speaker 1: you know, my etcn Essentially my migraine relief, and every
Speaker 1: time I was like, dude, I really want to get
Speaker 1: on a train right now. Like every time I pop one,
Speaker 1: I was just like, trains are so fucking cool, and
Speaker 1: I I couldn't figure out the correlation, but it makes
Speaker 1: perfect sense now. I always got really into Sonic whenever
Speaker 1: I would take.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was. I was really sick a couple
Speaker 3: of months back, and I was taken. I was taking
Speaker 3: these uh these tilent alls, and then all of a
Speaker 3: sudden I woke up and there was like twelve Lego
Speaker 3: Star Wars sets in my house, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, incredible.
Speaker 4: It's a sad thing you take a time on and
Speaker 4: you know exactly how many marbles are in the jar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really tragic, right.
Speaker 3: Coming.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you doing this on short notice. Uh, but
Speaker 2: because I think I only reached out to you like
Speaker 2: a day or two ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I knew it was gonna be fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, we appreciate you. So go check out
Speaker 4: acman stuff. You know where to find him. Uh and uh,
Speaker 4: patron of concess of Snark Tank, Snark Tank Gos shop
Speaker 4: all that jazz.
Speaker 2: We'll see you next time. Sween will not be here again.
Speaker 4: We'll find we'll find somebody else to rope into this
Speaker 4: hell until then, catch you next time.
Speaker 2: But bye, County Queen.
Speaker 3: I don't know why you now.
Speaker 8: Now you are you know a's and slash Middle East
Speaker 8: and now you motherbucker will strap up a bomb with
Speaker 8: the ship you know if some of them are buying
Speaker 8: by it. But you're a pussy though you'll want to
Speaker 8: be white supremacists, You're a pussy Bundy. You ain't gonna
Speaker 8: do shit with off the tough hawk nigga. I steal
Speaker 8: your camel the fuck out of here,