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the host. The purpose of the show is to have

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interesting conversations, stretch our minds and grow not what we want.

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Speaker 6: Acknowledge is a crime?

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Speaker 3: We were guilty from the sun.

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Speaker 6: They don't fear the questions, They fear the spot.

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Speaker 6: See through slows. They content for thinking. They cosy, but

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does the dark and only show what three?

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We about to feel it? They Welcome to the Prometheus

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I'm your host, Doc Brown. Here we like to use

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the allegory of the Prometheus Lens to take a second

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welcome back. It's been a while. I think the last

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time I did a reading from the Golden Bought was

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hell a little over a month ago, and I got

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to just thinking about it. I was like, man, me

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and Andrew couldn't hook up and do our Prometheus report

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this morning like we normally do. So I was like, hey,

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I'm going to give them a reading from the Golden Bough.

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So we are here, man, We're ready to dig in

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and hope you guys enjoy it. Let me know when

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the chat. Guys, how's everybody doing today? Is it a

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thank God it's Friday moments? Have I caught you on

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your commute home? Have I caught you in the middle

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of work? But either way, hey, man, just let me

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know what's up to chat. Man, give me a shout.

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But ma'am, man, I recently cut off the main. The

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main is gone. I still have a mullet, but it's

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just like a really short one. I'm telling you boys,

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boys and girls, it is very, very hot in the South,

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and I've been trying to exercise and walk some more,

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trying to take better care of myself. Man, I'm getting older.

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got a blanket on my neck. I was like, yeah,

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this stuff's got to go, bro. So I got it

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off there and I shaved all this stuff down real

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good at the end, so it's not the hot Weather's

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not so bad on me. Man. But I posted that

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in the community page here on YouTube, and I got

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a lot of comments and positive feedback, Thank you, guys.

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And I had some people all know the bullet In

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the winter time, I'm going to bring it back. Okay,

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it'll keep my neck warm. But summertime, I can't handle it. Daddy,

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it's too rough. But the last time we hung out, guys,

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when we read from the Golden Bough, we covered the

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entire first chapter. So this time I hope to get

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through the entire second chapter. And the second chapter is

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entitled Priestly Kings, so I think it's going to be

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a good one. I have not read this. I wanted

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to read it fresh with you guys. That way you

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with you guys, because that's what we're here for, here

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to study and learn. Hey, man, you might have a

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perspective and something that I don't know, and I would

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share with each other. Sharing is caring. So here we go, man,

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a volume one, the Magic Art Part one, so there

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read through this. Guys. Just bear with me. I don't

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to slay his predecessor. So just to touch the point

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or religion wherever you don't call it. But the way

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priest king of the Wood had to defeat and conquer

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those that maybe didn't know. Secondly, why before doing so

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golden bough. The two questions are to some extent distinct,

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answer to the second question. The first point on which

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we fastened is the priest's title. Why was he called

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the King of the wood, Why was his office spoken

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of as kingdom. The union of a royal title with

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priestly duties was common in ancient Italy and Greece. At

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was called the King, and his wife the Queen. The

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functions of both were religious. For example, the King superintended

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the celebration of Illusian mysteries that we all know about,

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that right, the drinking of the kouchions, and the art

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of practicing death before you die. That way, you're not

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afraid of death anymore. You know, you die resurrect a

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new man, the Lenninian festival of Dionysus and the torch races,

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which were held at several of the great Athenian festivals. Moreover,

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he presided at the curious trials of animals and innate

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objects which had caused the death of a human being

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to him. In short, were assigned in the words of

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Plato the most solemn and most truly ancestral rights of

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the ancient sacrifices. Many other Greek democracies had tudeler kings,

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whose duties, so far as they were known, seemed to

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have been priestly and to have centered around the common

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hearth of the state. For example, in Cause the king's

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sacrifice to Hestia, the goddess of hearth, the equivalent of

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the Italian Vesta, and he received the hide and one

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leg of the victim as his prerequisite. In maritime the

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kings of whom there were several invited touts at the

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the wrath of the god and kings under pain. I'm

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sorry I read the same line again, the wrath of

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the gods, and what was perhaps even worse, of having

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to pay a fine to the offended deity in the

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same island, the king was charged with the duty of

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pronouncing the public curses, a spiritual weapon of which much

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use was made by the ancients. Every eighth year, the

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king at Delphi took part in a quaint ceremony. He

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kissing the baby, handing out the bread and the grain.

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and he slapped it with his shoe. Well, hell, that's

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a little uncalled for it. After that, the president of

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the Thiads, a college of women devoted to organastic worship

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of Bacchus. And that is, honestly, it's kind of like

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Dionysus's Mayonaides, if I'm saying that right of Mayonaides. But

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they would you know, drink these spiked wine drinks, you know,

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full of drugs, and they would get in this frenzied state,

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and they said, you know, the gods were to in

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dwell in them, and they would go crazy. If you

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read some of the epics, you know, Homer talks about Odysseus.

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I think it's Homer, but either way, Odysseus he stumbles

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into these women in the woods and he's torn apart

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limb from lemon. They eat him. So yeah, they were

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pretty wild women. And Bacchus that's just another name for Dionysus.

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ravine and there buried it with a rope around its neck.

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death of a girl who, in a time of famine,

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had been publicly buffeted by the king, and smarting under

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the insult, had hanged herself. In some cities such as Megara,

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king the kingship was an annual office, and the years

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were dated by the king's names. The people of Preing

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a bull to Poseidon at the Pannonian festival. Some Greek

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order to offer the sacrifices which before had been offered

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by the kings. A similar view as to the origin

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of the priestly kings appears to have prevailed in Greece

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in itself. The opinion is not improbable, and it is

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born out of the example of Sparta, most of the

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only purely Greek state which retained the kingly form of

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government in historical times. Okay, so that makes sense. I

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remember that movie three hundred. You know, Leonidas all the others,

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you know, they had what they caught senates and you know,

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kind of like a democracy type thing. But you know,

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to kind of hold on to that. For in Sparta,

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all state sacrifices were offered by the kings. As descendants

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of the gods. One of the two Spartan kings held

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the priesthood of Zeus Lecedomian, the other of the priesthood

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of Heavenly Zeus. Sometimes, the descendants of the old kings

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were allowed to retain this shadowy royalty after the real

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power had departed from them. Thus, the Ephesus, the descendants

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of the Ionian kings, who traced their pedigree to Crotus

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of Athens kept the title of king in certain privileges,

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such as the right to occupy a scat of honor

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at the games, to wire a purple robe and carry

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a staff instead of a scepter, and to preside at

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the rights of the Eleusian demeter, and the little Paul

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Blart fun fact for you. The purple I've heard some

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people talk about on this and I've watched a few

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episodes people talking about this. Not Christians, but I mean

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they got some good info. Not everything they say is golden,

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but they talked about the purple raiment and that was very,

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very special, and it was reserved for royalty, and the

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reason was because it was so scarce and you could

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only get it entire and the Phoenicians and then they

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would skim the ocean floors and get these snails and

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in that region, so they were the only ones that

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had access to them. And they would bleed them basically,

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you know, squeeze them like a lemon and get the

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juice out of them. And when they would do that,

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psychedelic and you read some of the ancient texts they

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talk about the perp. You know, they drank the purple

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that is this you know, psychedelic substance that comes from

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these snails. And at the same time, I don't know

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how they extracted or pulled whatever out, but then what

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was left was this purple looking goo and they used

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it to dye the clothes. And it was extremely expensive,

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people could even afford this thing. So that's a little

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side note for you guys. So a serene When the

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monarchy was abolished, the disposed king Battus was assigned certain

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domains and allowed to retain some priestly functions. Thus, the

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classical evidence points to the conclusion that in prehistoric ages,

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before the rise of the republican form of government, the

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various tribes or sites or cities sorry, were ruled by

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kings who discharged priestly duties and probably enjoyed a sacred

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care as reputed descendants of the deities. So you know,

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once again, they descend from the gods. They are the

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ones with the divine right to rule. This combination of

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priestly functions with royal authority is familiar to everyone. Asia Minor,

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for example, was the seat of various great religious capitals,

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peopled by thousands of sacred slaves sorry kat itch and

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rule by pontiffs who wielded at once temporal and spiritual authority.

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Like the popes of medieval Rome, such priests ridden cities

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were zella and pessimists. To unonic kings again in the

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old Heathen days, seemed to have stood in the position

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and to have exercised the powers of high priests. The

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emperors of China offered public sacrifices, the details of which

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are regulated by their ritual books. The King of Mattie

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Gascar Yeah, the King of Madagascar, was the high priest

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of the Realm. At the great Festival of the New Year,

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when a bullock was sacrificed for the good of the kingdom,

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the king stood over the sacrifices to offer prayer and thanksgiving,

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while his attendant slaughtered the animals. In the monarchical states

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which still maintain their independence, among the Gallas of Eastern Africa,

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the king sacrifices on the mountaintops and regulates the emulation

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of human victims, so human sacrifice and the dim light

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of tradition reveals a similar union of temporal and spiritual

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power of royal and priestly duties in the kings of

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that delightful region of Central America, whose ancient capital, now

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buried under the rank growth of tropical forest, is marked

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by the stately and mysterious ruins of Polinke, now probably

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butchered that sorry, guys, where was I at? Among the medavals?

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The king is high priest. Every year he offers sacrifices

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at the Great and the Little Dance, and also at

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the festivals of the New Fruits, which ends the dances.

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On these occasions he prays to the spirits of his forefathers,

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and likewise to his own spirit, for it is from

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these higher powers that he expects every blessing. The last

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example is instructive because it shows that the king is

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something more than a priest. He prays not only to

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the spirits of his fathers, but to his own spirit.

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He is clearly raised above the standard of mere humanity.

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There is something divine about him. Similarly, we may suppose

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that the Spartan kings were taught not only to be

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descended of the great god Zeus, but also to partake

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of his holy spirits. This is indeed indicated by the

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curious Spartan belief which has been recorded by Herodotus. The

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old historian tells us that formerly both of the Spartan

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kings went forth with the army to battle, but that

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in later times a rule was made that when one

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king marched out to fight, the other should stay home.

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And accordingly, says Herodotus, one of the kings remaining at home,

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one of the Taidods, I guess it's the title they

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had is left there too, For hitherto both of them

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were invoked and followed. The kings. The Tai Nairids are,

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of course the heavenly twins Castor and polys oh Man,

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the sons of Zeus. And it should be remembered that

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the two Spartan kings themselves were believed to be descended

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from twins, and hence may have been credited with the

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wondrous powers which superstition often associates with twins. That twin iconography.

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That's something I find uh compelling or interesting, to say

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the least, throughout my studies. It's like every culture I

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mean even the Bible repeatedly, Twins, twins, twins, twins. Uh,

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it's just wild. There's there's got to be something to that.

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Oh let's see here, Yeah, tarah, nothing new under the sun.

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M glad you could make it. Yeah, you missed the

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other one earlier. I was like, yeah, I slipped that

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one in on you, So I'm glad you can make it.

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Two smelly fingers, purple drink cognac and purple kool aid

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and maybe that was their their purple kool aid. Don't

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drink the kool aid you wind up wandering through the

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woods and eating the first person you come across. It's

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what was that ship they were doing down in Florida?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Well do they call that the Walk of Flock or

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that whatever that stuff was. They were buying gas stations

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and snorting it and was making them crazy, and they

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had a couple of people like went zombie and started

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eating people in the streets. Anyway, sorry, I'm gonna give

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me a.

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Speaker 1: Drink real quick.

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Speaker 5: Getting a little parched, Okay, here we go. The belief

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described by Herodotus plainly implies that one of the Heavenly

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Twins was supposed to be in constant attendance on each

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of their human kinsmen the two Spartan kings, staying with

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them where they stayed, and going with them wherever they went. Hence,

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they were probably thought to aid the kings with their

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advice in time of need. Now, Castor and Pollocks are

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commonly represented as spearmen, and they were constantly associated or

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identified not only with stars, but also with those lurid

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lights which, in an atmosphere charged with electricity, are sometimes

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seen to play around the masts of ships under the

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murky sky. Moreover, similar lights were observed by the ancients

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to glitter in the darkness on the points of spears.

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Pliny tells us that he had seen such lambient flames

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on the spears of the Roman sentinels as they paced

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their rounds by night in front of the camp, and

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it is said that Cossacks riding across the steps on

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stormy nights perceived flickerings of the same sort at their

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lance heads. Since therefore the divine brothers Castor and Pollocks

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were believed to attend the Spartan kings, it seems not

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impossible that they might have been taught to accompany the

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march of the spartan army in a visible form, appearing

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to the awe stricken soldiers in the twilight of the darkness,

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either as stars in the sky or a shpen of

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spears on earth. Perhaps the stories of the appearance of

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the heavenly twins in battle, charging on their milk white

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steeds at the head of the earthly cavalry may have

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originated in similar light seen to glitter in the glooming

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of a point here and there in the long hedge

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of levied or ported spears. For any two riders on

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white horses whose spearheads happened to be touched by the

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mystic light might easily be taken for castor and pollocks

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in person. If there is any truth in this conjecture,

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so he emits its conjecture. So, of course it we

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should conclude that the divine brothers were never seen in

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broad day, but only at dusk or in the darkness

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of night. Now, their most famous appearance was at the

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Battle of Lake Regulus, as to which we are expressedly

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told that it was late in the evening of the

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summer day, before the fighting was over. Such statements should

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not be lightly dismissed as late inventions. Of a rhetorical historian.

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The memories of great battles linger long among the peasantry

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and the neighborhood, or peasantry of the neighborhood. But when

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we have said that the ancient kings were commonly priests,

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also we are far from having exhausted the religious aspect

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of their office. In those days, the divinity that hedges

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the king was no empty form of speech, but the

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expression of a sober belief. The kings were revered in

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many cases not merely as priests, that is, as intercessors

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between man and God, but as themselves gods, able to

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bestow upon their subjects and worshipers those blessings which are

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commonly supposed to be beyond the reach of mortals, and

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are sought, if at all, only by prayer and sacrifice

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offered to superhuman and invisible beings. Thus, kings are often

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expected to give rain and sunshine, and due season, to

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make the crops grow, and so on. Strange as this

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expectation appears to us, is quite of a peace with

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early modes of thought. A savage hardly conceives the distinction

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commonly drawn by more advanced peoples between the natural and

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the supernatural. To him, the world is a great extent

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worked by supernatural agents, that is, by personal beings acting

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on impulses and motives like his own, liable like him

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to be moved by appeals to their piety, their hopes,

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and their fears. In a world so conceived, he seems

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no limit to his power of influencing the course of

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nature to his own advantage. Prayers, promises, or threats may

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structure him, I'm sorry may secure him fine weather and

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an abundant crop from the gods. And if a god

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should happen, as he sometimes believes, to become incarnate in

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his own person, then he need appeal to no higher being.

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He the savage possesses in himself all the powers necessary

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to further his own well being and that of his

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fellow man. This is one way in which the idea

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of man god is reached, but there is another. Along

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with the view of the world as pervaded by spiritual forces,

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savage man has a different and probably still older conception

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in which we may detect the germ of the modern

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notion of natural law, or the view of nature as

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a series of events occurring in the invariable order without

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the intervention of personal agency. The germ of which I

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speak is involved in the sympathetic magic, as it may

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be called, which plays a large part in most systems

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of superstition. In early society, the king was frequently a

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magician as well as a priest. Indeed, he appears to

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have often attained the power by virtue of his supposed

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proficiency in the black or white art. Hence, in order

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to understand the evolution of the kingship and the secret

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character with which the office has commonly been invested in

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the eyes of the savage or of our various people,

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it is essential to have some acquaintance with the principles

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of magic, and to form some conception of the extraordinary

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hold which that may ancient systems of superstition has had

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on the human mind in all ages and in all countries. Accordingly,

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I propose to consider the subject in some detail. And

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there's your cliffhanger. Okay, let we see how long this

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next chapter is. We might do the next one. It

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ain't too long, because we're only thirty minutes in. I

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was expecting at least to get an hour. Oh Lord,

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have mercy, this is a big chapter.

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Speaker 3: When does it end? Jesus.

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Speaker 5: He's a wordy guy. But I guess he's breaking down

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the origins of magic and stuff like that too, So

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I mean it's it's a lengthy when I assume. Good lord,

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I'm like almost fifty pages, so definitely not going up

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in this today. We might break into it if they

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got sub sections. Wow, I'm already at page like one

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hundred and something. I'm still I'm not in the next chapter.

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Oh Lord, have mercy. Yeah, I'm about to give up.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to see how long it actually is, but

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my patience is wearing thin as yours. I'm sure just

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watching me flip. I'm sorry, guys. Let me see if

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there is a subsection, there's got to be someplace to

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have a stopping point, because even next time, I sure

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as hell don't want to read over one hundred pages

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and one sit and that'd be rough. Come on, dude,

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you gotta have a sub section or two, because that's

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the thing I don't want to read for a little bit,

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stop in the middle of the story, and then next

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time we pick up, somebody's like, what what are you

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talking about? Okay, wait a minute, they do. This is

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at the top Sympathetic Magic.

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Speaker 3: So that goes to.

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Speaker 5: Page eighty two. Hell with it, We'll just keep going.

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What are you saying, let's keep going, We'll stop where

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we Stuh. If somebody's lost, they can just go back

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and catch up, right, okay. Chapter three, Sympathetic Magic, The

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principles of Magic. Shake and Wake. I've only heard of

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Wake and Baker. Yeah right, it's similar, but it's not

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the same. That's actually a woman that I was introduced

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to through Max. Max used to help moderate the chat

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and come in a lot. She's had a lot of

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life stuff and kids and stuff happened, so she's kind

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of taken a step back. But she hooked me up

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with the woman that owns that Shaking Wake Radio and

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it's a Christian like network, so you know, good podcasts

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and stuff like that. She reaches out to I'm going

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to ask them if they want to be a part,

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and you get a weekly time slot. So it's been

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a while since I looked, but I think on that

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broadcast channel shows are on Wednesdays, I think, so, yeah,

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check out Shaken Wake. He might find you a new

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show that you like because that it's a shmortgash board

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of stuff on there. Okay. If we analyze the principles

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of thought on which magic is based, they will probably

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be found to resolve themselves into two first that like

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produces like, that like produces like, or that an effect

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resembles its cause, and second that being oh wait, sorry,

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and second that things which have once been in contact

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with each other continue to act on each other at

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a distance after a fiscal contact has been severed. The

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former principle may be called the law of similarity, the

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latter the law of contact or conjugation. Which the first

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00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,519
of these principles, namely the law of similarity, the magician

474
00:35:58,639 --> 00:36:02,440
infers that he can produce any effect he desires merely

475
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,400
by imitating it. From the second, he infers that whatever

476
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,800
he does to a material object will affect equally the

477
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,239
person with whom the object was once in contact, whether

478
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,519
it formed part of his body or not. Okay, so

479
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:21,400
that's kind of like a like the voodoo doll, you know,

480
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:24,519
or some kind of the wicked stuff. That's where they

481
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,360
get into making the little dolls, putting the pins in

482
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,960
them and you know, hurting them and stuff like that.

483
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:34,480
So nothing new under the sun. Once again, charms based

484
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:38,719
on the law of similarity may be called homeopathic or

485
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,639
emitative magic. Charms based on the law of contact or

486
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:50,000
conjugation may be called conjugous magic. To denote the first

487
00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:54,440
of these branches of magic, the term homeopathic is perhaps

488
00:36:54,480 --> 00:37:01,440
preferable for the alternative term emitative or mimic suggests if

489
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,519
it does not imply a conscious agent who imitates, there

490
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:10,199
by limiting the scope of magic too narrowly. For the

491
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:15,119
same principles which which the magician applies in the practice

492
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:18,800
of his art are implicity believed by him to regulate

493
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,880
the operations of inanimate nature. In other words, he tactically

494
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,599
assumes that the law of similarity and contact are of

495
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:35,199
universal application and are not limited to human actions. In short,

496
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,320
magic is a spurious system of natural law, as well

497
00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:43,760
as a fallacious guide of conduct. It is a false

498
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:49,000
science as well as a boardive art. Regarded as a

499
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,360
system of natural law, that is, as the statement of

500
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,519
the rules which determine the sentence of events throughout the world,

501
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,760
it may be called theoretical magic. Regarded as a set

502
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,159
of precepts which human beings observe in order to compass

503
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:08,320
their ends. It may be called practical magic. At the

504
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,519
same time, It is to be borne in mind that

505
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:15,480
the primitive magician knows magic only on its practical side.

506
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:19,920
He never analyzes the mental processes of which his practice

507
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,320
is based, never reflects on the abstract principles involved in

508
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,519
his actions. With him, as with the vast majority of men,

509
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:34,599
logic is implicit, not explicit. He reasons just as he

510
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,679
digests his food, in complete ignorance of the intellectual and

511
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,039
physiological processes which are essential to the one operation and

512
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:46,480
the other. In short, to him, magic is always an art,

513
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,639
never a science. The very idea of science is lacking

514
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,039
in the undeveloped mind. It is for the philosophic student

515
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:59,360
to trace the train of thought which underlies the magician's practice,

516
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,880
bow out the few simple threads of which the tangled

517
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,599
sheen is composed, to disengage the abstract principles from their

518
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:11,639
concrete applications, In short, to discern the spurious science behind

519
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:19,239
the bastard art. If my analysis of the magician's logic

520
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,760
is correct, its two great principles turn out to be

521
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:28,360
merely two different misapplications of the association of ideas. Homeopathic

522
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,559
magic is found on the association of ideas of similarity

523
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:37,480
Conjugius magic is found on the association of ideas by contingency.

524
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,800
Homeopathic magic commits the mistake of assuming that things which

525
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,760
resemble each other are the same. Contagious magic commits the

526
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,800
mistake of assuming that things which have once been in

527
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:58,360
contact with each other are always in contact. But in

528
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,679
practice the two branches are often combined, or, to be

529
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,679
more exact, While homeopathic or emotive magic may be practiced

530
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:12,079
by itself, continuous or contagious magic will generally be found

531
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:17,920
to involve an application of the homeopathic or emotive principle. Thus,

532
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,039
generally stated, the two things may be a little difficult

533
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:26,960
to grasp, but they will readily become intelligible when they

534
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:32,079
are illustrated by particular examples. Both trains of thought are

535
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:36,760
in fact extremely simple and elementary. It could be, I'm sorry,

536
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,199
it could hardly be otherwise, since they are familiar in

537
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,440
the concrete, though certainly not in the abstract, to be

538
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:48,400
crude intelligence not only of the savage, but of the

539
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,760
ignorant and dull witted people everywhere. So, you know, it

540
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,159
kind of goes back to like the dragon court. You know,

541
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,079
they're the smart ones, they're the ones with the divine

542
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:01,760
right to rule, to rule over the dumb sheep, because

543
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,360
you couldn't make it without them, you know. Thank you.

544
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:12,360
Both branches of magic, the homeopathic and the contagious, may

545
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,400
conveniently be comprehended under the general name of sympathetic magic.

546
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,119
That brings me the mind of that new movie, that

547
00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:25,199
disclosure Day. That was the magic power they gave that woman,

548
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,119
was the power of sympathy to make people sympathize, you know,

549
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:35,000
with the aliens, since both assume that things act on

550
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:38,679
each other at a distance through a secret sympathy, the

551
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,239
impulse being transmitted from one to the other by means

552
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,480
of what we may conceive as a kind of invisible ether,

553
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,840
not unlike that which is postulated by modern science for

554
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,920
a precisely similar purpose, namely, to explain how things can

555
00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:00,280
physically affect each other through a space which appears to

556
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:07,400
be empty. And that's a older New Age version, you know,

557
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,679
I mean talking about the oneness, being able to communicate

558
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,280
with each other without without words, and things like that.

559
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,960
I mean, they were doing this in ancient of times.

560
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:18,920
And he's even mentioning you know, science, you know, and

561
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,960
all this kind of stuff. And this was early twentieth century, like,

562
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:27,199
I'm sorry, no, the early nineteenth century. This is in

563
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,760
eighteen hundreds. I'm pretty sure it may be convenient to

564
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:35,599
tabulate as follows, the branches of magic according to the

565
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:39,079
laws of thought which underlie them. And here they got

566
00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:41,880
a graph and it just says, you know, sympathetic magic,

567
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:44,960
and it says in parentheses law of sympathy and a

568
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,119
branch coming down and breaking off into two, and it

569
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:52,440
says the homeopathic magic and the contagious magic. I will

570
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,360
now illustrate these two great branches of sympathetic magic by examples,

571
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:02,599
beginning with homeopathic magic. Perhaps the most familiar application of

572
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:09,440
the principle that is like procedures. Sorry, I got distracted

573
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,960
my phone. Let up. Application of the principle that like

574
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:17,239
producers like is the attempt which has been made by

575
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,199
many peoples in many ages to ensure or destroy an

576
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,679
enemy by ensuring or destroying an image of him. And

577
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,440
that's another thing too, Like when you see all the

578
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,280
noses broken off of these Egyptian statues and stuff like that,

579
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,800
that's because they believe that the spirits of the God's

580
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,400
actually inhabited these things. So when people enemies would come

581
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,880
in to conquer them. They would beat the noses off

582
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:43,000
because their mouths work shut, so that's the only way

583
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,199
they could breathe, they thought, So they'll break off their

584
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,880
nose and the gods can't breathe, and they either die

585
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,360
or have to leave the vessel. In that belief that

586
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,119
just as the image suffers, so does the man. And

587
00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:57,320
you can see that in the Bible too, when they

588
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,119
stole the arc of the Covenant and they took it

589
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:04,880
to feel it, and they went into the sanctuary, and

590
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,920
it was the sanctuary I think of Dagon. But the

591
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,840
next day when they went into check on the arc,

592
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,079
make sure it's still there, the statue of Dagon was

593
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,039
falling face first in front of the ark, and they

594
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:20,119
were all freaking out, you know, thinking that their god

595
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:23,440
had been defeated or bowed down to the ark itself,

596
00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:28,360
and that when it perishes, he must die because it's

597
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,519
the vessel. A few instances out of many may be

598
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:36,000
given to prove at once the wide diffusion of the

599
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:39,760
practice over the world and its remarkable persistence throughout the

600
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,880
ages for thousands of years. There was a kind of

601
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,079
a typo for thousands of years ago. No it's not

602
00:44:48,199 --> 00:44:52,440
I just read it wrong. It was known to the

603
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:57,119
sorcerers of ancient India, Babylon, and Egypt, as well as

604
00:44:57,159 --> 00:45:00,519
of Greece and Rome, and at this dame it is

605
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:07,159
still resorted to by cunning and malignant savages in Australia,

606
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:13,239
Africa and Scotland. Thus, the North American Indians, we are told,

607
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:17,440
believe that by drawing the figure of a person in sand,

608
00:45:17,639 --> 00:45:21,519
ashes or clay, or by considering any object as his

609
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:25,320
body and then pricking it with a sharp stick, or

610
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,920
doing it any other injury, they inflict a corresponding injury

611
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,440
on the person represented. For example, when the a Jebue

612
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:39,559
Indians desires to work evil on anyone, he makes a

613
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:42,480
little wooden image of his enemy and runs a needle

614
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:46,119
into its head or heart, or he shoots an arrow

615
00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:49,440
into it, believing that whatever the needle pierces or the

616
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:52,960
arrow strikes the image his foe, the same instant will

617
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,960
be seized with sharp pain and corresponding part of his body.

618
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,079
But if he intends to kill the person outright, he

619
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:06,440
burns or buries the puppet, uttering certain magic words as

620
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,800
he does so. So when a Cora Indian of Mexico

621
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,679
wishes to kill a man, he makes a figure of

622
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,679
him out of burnt clay, strips of cloth and so forth,

623
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,519
and then, muttering incantations, runs thorns through the head or

624
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:27,000
stomach of the figure to make his victims suffer correspondingly,

625
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:33,039
Sometimes the Cora Indians make a more beneficent use of

626
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:36,760
this sort of homeopathic magic. When he wishes to multiply

627
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,039
his flocks or herds, he models a figure of an

628
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:43,199
animal he wants to wax or clay or carves it

629
00:46:44,159 --> 00:46:48,480
from tough and deposits it in a cave of the mountains.

630
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,840
For these Indians believe that the mountains are masters of

631
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,400
all riches, including cattle and sheep. And hey, let me know,

632
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,119
in to chat, I just remembered doctor old superstition. I

633
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:02,960
don't know if it's a Southern thing or you know,

634
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,119
if it's kind of everywhere, but it's it's like this,

635
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:08,199
it's like sympathetic magic. But I remember as a kid,

636
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:13,559
my cousin she used to get warts on her hands

637
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,639
all the time, and they try, you know, cutting them off,

638
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,000
freezing them off and all this stuff, but they'd always

639
00:47:19,039 --> 00:47:22,719
come back. And I remember my mamma said, oh, there

640
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,039
was like an old wives tail talks about if you

641
00:47:26,119 --> 00:47:31,000
find a leaky faucet or something like that under your

642
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:33,480
house or in a cave or something like that, just

643
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,599
some kind of you know, steady drip. You're to take

644
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,119
a piece of string or twine, and if you had

645
00:47:40,199 --> 00:47:42,159
you know, like two warts on your hand that you

646
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,039
wanted off, or two warts whatever, you'd take that rope

647
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:47,559
and you would tie two knots in it and then

648
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:50,400
you would lay it under a drip, and that after

649
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,440
so many days you know of this water dripping on

650
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,920
this knotted rope, that your warts would go away. I'd

651
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,119
forgotten about that, but I memorized a little kid and

652
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,079
ma'ma I was talking about that. She was like, you know,

653
00:48:03,159 --> 00:48:05,760
there's an old wise tale. If you want to try,

654
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,639
it's worth trying, I guess, and it's gonna hurt nothing.

655
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:10,119
But after reading this, I mean, that's what it is.

656
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:15,960
It's a form of sympathetic magic. For every cow, deer, dog,

657
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,920
or hen he wants, the Indian has to sacrifice the

658
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,800
corresponding image to the creature. This may help us understand

659
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,639
the meaning of the figures of cattle, deer, horses, and

660
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,920
pigs which are dedicated to Diana at nemi. They may

661
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,079
have been the offerings of farmers or huntsmen who hope

662
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:38,440
thereby to multiply the cattle or the game. Similarly, when

663
00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:42,239
the Todas of southern India desire to obtain more buffaloes,

664
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:45,719
they offer silver images of these animals. In the temples,

665
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:50,079
the Peruvian Indians molded images of fat mixed with grain

666
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:54,519
to imitate the persons whom they disliked or feared, and

667
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:58,239
then burn the effigy on the road where the intended

668
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,440
victim was to pass. This they called burning his soul,

669
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,760
But they drew a delicate distinction between the kinds of

670
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,360
materials to be used in the manufacture of these images.

671
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:17,599
According to the victims, was an Indian or a Vericocha,

672
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,239
that is, a Spaniard. To kill an Indian, they employed

673
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,760
maize and the fat of a lama. To kill a Spaniard,

674
00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:30,800
they used the wheat and the fat of a pig,

675
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,280
because the Vericoachas did not eat lamas and preferred wheat

676
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:41,800
to the maize. A melee charm of the same sort

677
00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:47,559
is as follows, pairings of the nails, hair, eyebrows, and

678
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:52,599
spittle and so forth of your intended victim enough to

679
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:56,159
represent every part of his person and then make them

680
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:01,599
up into his likeness with wax, with wax form and

681
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,840
deserted bees comb, scorched the figure slowly by holding it

682
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,599
over the lamp every night for seven nights, and say

683
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:12,840
it is not wax that I am scorching. It is

684
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,280
the liver, the heart, the spleen of the so and

685
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:21,840
so that I scorch. After the seventh time, burned the figure,

686
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,840
and your victim will die. This charm obviously combines the

687
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,159
principles of homeopathic and contagious magic, since the image which

688
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,599
is made in the likeness of an enemy contains things

689
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:36,280
which are in contact with him, namely his nails, hair,

690
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,679
and are spittle. So once again it's another wicked thing.

691
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,960
And I've seen on TV and heard people talk about,

692
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,960
you know, taking blocks of their enemies hair to do

693
00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:49,400
hexes and all this kind of stuff. Another form of

694
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:54,960
the melee charm, which resembles the object or sorry, how

695
00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:59,159
you say that. A jibwe Yes practice, still more closely

696
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,519
is to make a corpse of wax from the empty

697
00:51:02,599 --> 00:51:07,239
bee's comb and of the length of a footstep. Then

698
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:12,440
pierce the eye of the image, and your enemy is blind.

699
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,119
Pierce the stomach and he is sick. Pierce the head

700
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,760
and his headaches. Pierce the breast and his breasts will suffer.

701
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:24,960
If you would kill him outright, transfix the image from

702
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,760
the head downwards and shroud it as you would a corpse.

703
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,079
Pray over it. If you are praying over the dead,

704
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:34,679
then bury it in the middle of a path, where

705
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,440
your victim will be sure to step over it. In

706
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:39,880
order that his blood may not be on your head.

707
00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:44,079
You should say, it is not I who am burying you,

708
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:51,320
It is Gabriel who is burying him. Thus the guilt

709
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,599
of the murder will be laid on the shoulders of

710
00:51:54,639 --> 00:51:59,079
the archangel Gabriel. Okay, so this is definitely later. This

711
00:51:59,159 --> 00:52:04,440
is ad or not ADM. I'm sorry, Oh, stupid Gabriels

712
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,440
talked about Neil Testament.

713
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 3: Sorry.

714
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 5: In eastern Java, an enemy may be killed by means

715
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,599
of the likeness of him drawn on a piece of paper,

716
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:17,320
which is then incensed or burned into the ground. Among

717
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:23,559
the Manicabaras of Sumatra, a man who is tormented by

718
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:28,239
the passion of hate or of unrequited love will call

719
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,519
the help of a wizard in order to cause the

720
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:33,320
object of his hate or love to suffer from a

721
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:38,920
dangerous ulcer known as tingam t I n g g

722
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:43,159
A M. After giving the wizard the necessary instructions as

723
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:46,760
to the name, bodily formed, dwelling, and family of the

724
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,000
person in question, he makes a puppet which is supposed

725
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:54,519
to resemble his intended victim, and repairs it to a wood,

726
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,199
where he hangs the image on a tree and stands

727
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,199
quite stands quite by itself, muttering a spell. He then

728
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,320
drives an instrument through the navel of the puppet into

729
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,840
the tree, till the sap of the tree oozes through

730
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,480
the hole. Thus made, the instrument which inflicts the wound

731
00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:17,840
bears the same name of Tigham as the ulcer which

732
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,000
is to be raised on the body of the victim,

733
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,840
and the oozing sap is believed to be his or

734
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,719
her life spirit. Soon afterwards, the person against whom the

735
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,079
charm is directed begins to suffer from the ulcer, which

736
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:34,159
grows worse and worse till he dies unless a friend

737
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:37,199
can procure a piece of wood of the tree to

738
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:45,800
which the image is attached. The sorcerers of Oh My God,

739
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:53,440
Magweg or Jervis Island in the Torres Straits kept an

740
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,159
assortment of effigies in stock, ready to be operated at

741
00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:00,719
the requirement of a customer. Some of the figure were stoned.

742
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,840
These were employed when short work was to be made

743
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,920
of a man or woman. Others were wooden. These gave

744
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,480
the unhappy victim a little more rope, only, however, to

745
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:15,920
terminate his prolonged sufferings of a painful death. The mode

746
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:21,079
of operation in the latter case was to but poison

747
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,960
by means of a magical implement into the wooden image

748
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,119
to which the name of the intended victim had been given.

749
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,000
The next day, the person aimed at would feel chilly,

750
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:36,679
then waste away and die, unless the same wizard who

751
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:40,519
wrought the charm would consent to undo it. If the

752
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:43,400
sorcerer pulled off an arm or a leg of the image,

753
00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:46,360
the human victim felt pain in the corresponding limb of

754
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,480
his body. But if the sorcerer stored the severed arm

755
00:54:49,559 --> 00:54:52,880
or leg to the figure, the man was recovered. Another

756
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,000
mode of compassing a man's death in Torres Straits was

757
00:54:57,079 --> 00:55:00,360
to prick a wax effigy of him or her with

758
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:04,760
the spine of a stingray, so When the man whose

759
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,000
name had been given to the waxen image next went

760
00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:11,280
fishing at the reef, a stingray would sting him an

761
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,079
exact part of his body where the waxen image had

762
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:17,320
been pierced. Or the sorcerer might hang an efigy of

763
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,800
the bough of a tree as it is swayed into

764
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,360
and fro in the wind, and a person represented by

765
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,920
it would fall sick. However, he would get well again

766
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:30,599
if a friend of his could induce a magician to

767
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,159
steady the figure by sticking it firmly into the sandy

768
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:38,880
bottom of the sea. When the lerons of Borneo wished

769
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,159
to be avenged on an enemy, they make a wooden

770
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:45,199
image of him and leave it in the jungle. As

771
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,840
it decays, he dies. More elaborate is the proceeding adopted

772
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,760
by the Kenyas of Borino. In similar circumstances. The operator

773
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,440
retires with the image to a quiet spot on the

774
00:55:57,519 --> 00:56:00,360
river bank, and when the hawk appears in a certain

775
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,559
part of the sky, he kills a fowl, smears its

776
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:06,280
blood on the image, and puts a bit of fat

777
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,559
in the mouth of the figure, saying put fat in

778
00:56:10,639 --> 00:56:16,239
his mouth. By that he means, may his head be

779
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,440
cut off, hung up in an enemy's house, and fed

780
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,039
with fat in the unusual way. Damn, dude, that's kind

781
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:24,960
of harsh. What was anchorman? Say?

782
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:28,119
Speaker 3: Boy? That escalated quickly.

783
00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:33,519
Speaker 5: If an aneo of Japan desires to compass the destruction

784
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:36,079
of an enemy, he will make a likeness of him

785
00:56:36,159 --> 00:56:40,679
out of mugwort or the glander rose and bury it

786
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,480
in the hole upside down, or under the trunk of

787
00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:46,119
a rotten tree, with a prayer to a demon to

788
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:48,679
carry off the man's soul or to make his body

789
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,760
ride away with the tree. Sometimes an antiold woman would

790
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,239
attempt to get rid of her husband in this fashion

791
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,000
by wrapping up his head dress in the shape of

792
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:02,239
a corpse and it deep into the ground while she

793
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,000
breathes a prayer that her husband may rot and die

794
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,400
with the headdress. Say more of the story, man, The

795
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,800
Bible tells you hell hath no fury like a woman's gorn.

796
00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:18,840
The Japanese themselves are familiar with similar modes of enchantment.

797
00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:21,559
In one of their ancient books, we read of a

798
00:57:21,639 --> 00:57:25,480
rebellious minister who made figures of the heir to the

799
00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:28,960
throne with intent no doubt to do him grievous bodily

800
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,039
harm thereby. And sometimes a woman who has been deserted

801
00:57:33,079 --> 00:57:35,800
by her lover will make a straw effigy of the

802
00:57:36,159 --> 00:57:40,079
faithless gallant and knaeil it to the sacred tree, adjuring

803
00:57:40,119 --> 00:57:42,800
the gods to spare the tree and to visit the

804
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,239
sacrilege of the traitor. At a shrine of Camparia, there

805
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,440
stood a pine tree studded with nails, which had been

806
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,719
thus driven in for the purpose of doing people death

807
00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:00,119
or dealing people death. The Chinese also are perfectly aware

808
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:03,840
that you can harm a man by maltreating or cursing

809
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,280
an image of him, especially if you have taken care

810
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,400
to write on it his name and horoscope. This mode

811
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,039
of venting spite of an enemy is said to be

812
00:58:14,159 --> 00:58:19,639
commonly practiced in China the Amoy. Such images, roughly made

813
00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:25,199
of bamboo splinters and paper, are called substitutes of persons,

814
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,400
and may be bought very cheap for a cash or

815
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,440
sow a piece at any shop which sells paper articles

816
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,760
for the use of the dead, of the god or

817
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,840
the gods. For the frugal Chinese are in the habit

818
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,519
of palming off paper imitations of all kinds of valuables

819
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,000
on the simple minded ghosts and gods who take them

820
00:58:47,039 --> 00:58:51,559
in all good faith for the genuine articles. As usual,

821
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:54,840
the victim suffers a hurt corresponding to the hurt done

822
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,400
to his image. Thus, if you run a nail or

823
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,760
needle into the eyes of the puppet, your man will

824
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,480
go more or less blind. If you stick a pin

825
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:09,400
in his stomach, he will be doubled up with colic.

826
00:59:10,199 --> 00:59:12,719
A stab in his heart of the effigy may kill

827
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,480
him outright. And in general, the more you prick it,

828
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:20,719
the louder you speak the spell, the more certain is

829
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,639
the effect. To make assurance, doubly sure it is I

830
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,159
in my print it's smeared. I can't see it good

831
00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:34,599
because this is a whole book. Dabdly sure it is.

832
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:40,119
He to impregnate the effigy, so to say, with the

833
00:59:40,119 --> 00:59:46,159
personal influence of the man, by passing its clandacla clandestinely

834
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:51,960
beforehand over him, or hiding it unbeknown to him in

835
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:55,840
his clothes or under his bed. If you do that,

836
00:59:56,199 --> 00:59:59,119
he is quite sure to die sooner or later. Hell

837
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,760
a broken cl locksworth is worked twice a day, right,

838
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,719
I mean he'll die eventually. Just buy this effigy for

839
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,800
me for a hundred dollars. I'll stabbed a couple times,

840
01:00:08,039 --> 01:00:13,519
sticken our his bed. He'll eventually die naturally. These nefarious

841
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:18,079
practices are no new thing in the Chinese Empire. There

842
01:00:18,119 --> 01:00:20,519
is a passage in the Chinese Book of Rewards and

843
01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:24,199
Penalties which illustrates their prevalence in the days gone by.

844
01:00:25,119 --> 01:00:27,840
There Under the rubik to hide an effigy of a

845
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,039
man for his purpose of giving him the nightmare, we

846
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:35,880
read as follows. This means hiding the carved wooden effigy

847
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:39,159
of a man somewhere with the intent to give him

848
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:44,639
the nightmare. Kong's Sun Cho having died suddenly some time

849
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,199
after he had succeeded to the post of treasurer, he

850
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:50,760
appeared in a dream to the governor of his district

851
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,880
and said, unto him, I have been the victim of

852
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,719
an obvious crime, and I have come, my Lord to

853
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,199
pray you avenge me. My time to die had not

854
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,280
yet come, but my servants gave me the nightmare, and

855
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,280
I was choked in my sleep. If you will send

856
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,119
secretly some dauntless soldiers, not one of the violets will

857
01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:15,519
escape you. Under the seventh title of the roof of

858
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:18,280
my house will be found my image carved of wood.

859
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,880
Fetch it and punish the criminals. The next day the

860
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,440
governor of the district had all the servants arrested, and

861
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,880
sure enough, after some search, they found under the foresaid

862
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,000
tile the figure of a man in wood, a foot

863
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:34,920
high and bristling all over with nails. Bit by bit,

864
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,880
the wood changed into flesh and uttered inarticulate cries when

865
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,840
it was struck. The governor of the district immediately reported

866
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,119
to the prefect of the department, who condemned several of

867
01:01:46,159 --> 01:01:53,639
the servants to suffer extreme rigor of the law. When

868
01:01:53,679 --> 01:01:57,760
some of the Aborigines of Victoria desired to destroy an enemy,

869
01:01:58,199 --> 01:02:01,639
they would occasionally retire to a lonely spot, and, drawing

870
01:02:01,679 --> 01:02:04,920
on the ground a rude likeness of the victim, would

871
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:09,719
sit around it and devote him to destruction with cabitalistic ceremonies.

872
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,800
So dreaded was his incantation that men and women who

873
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,119
learned that it had been directed against them, have been

874
01:02:17,159 --> 01:02:21,599
known to pine away and die affright on the bloom

875
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:25,599
felled River in Queensland, the natives think they can doom

876
01:02:25,639 --> 01:02:28,519
a man by making a rough wooden effigy of him

877
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:31,159
and bearing it into the ground, or by painting his

878
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:36,119
likeness on a bull roarer. And they believe that persons

879
01:02:36,119 --> 01:02:39,559
whose portraits are carved on a tree at Cape Bedford

880
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:43,599
will waste away. When the wife of a Central Australian

881
01:02:43,719 --> 01:02:48,079
native was eloped from him and he could not recover her,

882
01:02:48,679 --> 01:02:53,039
the disconsolate husband repairs with some sympathizing friends to a

883
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:56,440
secluded spot where a man skilled in magic draws on

884
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,719
the ground a rough figure supposed to represent the woman

885
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,199
on her back. Besides the figures laid a piece of

886
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,079
green bark, which stands for her spirit or soul, and

887
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:11,320
that the men throw miniature spears which have been made

888
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,880
for the purpose of made for the purpose and charmed

889
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:20,239
by singing over them. This barking evegy of the woman's spirit,

890
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,400
with the little spears sticking in sticking in, It is

891
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,159
then thrown as far as possible in the direction that

892
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:30,119
she was supposed to have taken. During the whole of

893
01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:32,920
the operation, the men chant in a low voice, the

894
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,840
burden of their song being an invitation to the magic

895
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,400
influence to go out and to enter her body. And

896
01:03:38,519 --> 01:03:42,320
dry up all of her fat. Sooner or later, often

897
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,599
a good deal later, her fat does dry up, and

898
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:47,960
she dies, and her spirit is seen in the sky

899
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:53,440
in the form of a shooting star and burma. A

900
01:03:53,519 --> 01:03:57,519
rejected lover sometimes resorted to a sorcerer and engaged him

901
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,519
to make a small image of the scorn full fair,

902
01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:04,039
one containing a piece of her clothes or something which

903
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:07,320
she has been in the habit of wearing. Certain charms

904
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,840
or medicines also enter into composition of the doll, which

905
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,880
is then hung up and thrown into the water. As

906
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:18,079
a consequence, the girl is supposed to go mad. In

907
01:04:18,119 --> 01:04:21,599
this latest example, as in the first of the melee

908
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:27,119
charms noticed above, homeopathic and imitative magic is blint with

909
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:32,639
contagious contagious magic in the strict sense of the word. Hence,

910
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:35,920
the likeness of the victim contains something which has been

911
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:40,559
in contact with her persons. A meta belle who wishes

912
01:04:40,639 --> 01:04:44,440
to avenge himself an enemy of an enemy, makes a

913
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,840
clay figure of him and pierces it with a needle.

914
01:04:47,239 --> 01:04:49,880
Next time the man thus represented happens to engage in

915
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,480
a fight, he will be speared. This as an effigy

916
01:04:53,559 --> 01:05:00,599
was stabbed. The Avambo of southern western Africa believe that

917
01:05:00,679 --> 01:05:03,960
some people have the power of bewitching an absent person

918
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,199
by gazing into a vessel of full water till his

919
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,679
image appears to them in the water. Then they spit

920
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,679
at the image and curse the man, and that seals

921
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:19,440
his fate. The ancient books of the Hindoos testify to

922
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,480
the use of similar enchantments among their remote ancestors. To

923
01:05:23,559 --> 01:05:26,599
destroy his foe, a man would fashion a figure of

924
01:05:26,679 --> 01:05:29,960
him in clay and transfix it with an arrow which

925
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,599
had been barbed with a thorn and winged with an

926
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:38,400
owl's feathers. Or he would mold the figure of wax

927
01:05:38,519 --> 01:05:43,360
and melt it into the fire. Sometimes, effigies of the soldiers, horses, elephants,

928
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,719
and chariots of the hostile army were molded in dough

929
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,119
and then pulled in pieces again. To destroy an enemy,

930
01:05:51,159 --> 01:05:54,280
the magician might kill the red headed lizard with the

931
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,519
words I am killing so and so, smear it with blood,

932
01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:03,000
wrap it in the black cloth, and having pronounced the incantation,

933
01:06:03,639 --> 01:06:08,079
burn it. Another way was to grind up mustard into meal,

934
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,400
with which a figure was made of a person who

935
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,119
is to be overcome or destroyed. Then, having mud of

936
01:06:15,159 --> 01:06:18,559
the certain spells to give effigy to the right, the

937
01:06:18,679 --> 01:06:23,079
enchanter chopped up the image, anointed it and melted butter,

938
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,920
curds or some such thing, and finally burn it in

939
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:34,199
a sacred pot. The so called sanguary chapter of the

940
01:06:34,599 --> 01:06:42,559
Khalidia Puran, there occurs the following passage. On the autumnal

941
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:48,480
Maha Novama or when the month is in the lunar

942
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:55,639
mansion Scanda or Vishka, Let the figure be made either

943
01:06:55,719 --> 01:06:59,639
of barley, meal or earth, representing the person with whom

944
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:03,039
the sad sacrificer is at variance, and the head of

945
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the figure be struck off. After the usual text have

946
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been used, the following text is to be used in

947
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:16,280
the invoking and acts on the occasion, iuse, effuse blood,

948
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be terrific, be terrific, seize destroy for the love of

949
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Ambaca and the head of his enemy. So that was

950
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the enchantment there that they recite. In modern India, the

951
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practices described in these old books are still carried on

952
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with mere variations of detail. The magician compounds of fatal

953
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image of Earth taken from sixty four filthy places and

954
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mixed up with clippings of hair, pairings of nails, bits

955
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of leather, and so on. Upon the breast of the

956
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image he writes the name of his enemy. Then he

957
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pierces it through and through with an awe or maims

958
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it in various ways, hoping thus to maim or kill

959
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the object of his vengeance. Among the Nabaturus of Malabar,

960
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a figure representing an enemy to be destroyed is drawn

961
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on a small sheet of metal gold by preference, on

962
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which some mystic diagrams are also inscribed. The sorcerer then

963
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declares that the bodily injury or death of the person

964
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shall take place at a certain time. After that, he

965
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,920
wraps up the little sheet in another sheet or leaf

966
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of metal gold, if possible, and buries it in a

967
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place where the victim is expected to pass. Sometimes, instead

968
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of the smell sheet, I'm sorry, sometimes instead of the

969
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small sheet of metal, he buries a live frog or

970
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lizard enclosed in a coconut shell, after sticking nails into

971
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its eyes and stomach. At the same moment, at the

972
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animal dies, the person expires. Also among the Mohammedians of

973
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Northern India, the proceeding is as follows. A doll is

974
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made of earth, taken from a grave or from a

975
01:09:05,119 --> 01:09:09,319
place where bodies are cremated, and some sentences of Qoran

976
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:15,359
are read backwards over twenty one small wooden pegs, and

977
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that's Quran with a sea, not a cave. These pegs.

978
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The operator next strikes into various parts of the body

979
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of the image, which is afterwards shrouded like a corpse,

980
01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:28,560
carried to the graveyard and buried in the name of

981
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:33,439
the enemy whom is intended the injured, the man is

982
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:38,279
believed will die without fail after the ceremony. A slightly

983
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:41,960
different form of the charm is observed by bomb Marjie,

984
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:47,640
a very degraded sect of Hindus in the northern West Providences.

985
01:09:48,279 --> 01:09:50,399
To kill an enemy, they would make an image of

986
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,119
flower or earth and stick razors into the breast, navel

987
01:09:54,239 --> 01:09:58,800
and throat, while pigs are thrust into the eyes or

988
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,039
sorry pegs or thrust into the eyes, hands and feet.

989
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,119
As if this were not enough, the next construct and

990
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:12,079
image of Bahavara or Durga holding the three pronged fork

991
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:15,359
in her hand. This they place so close to the

992
01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:18,880
effigy that the person to whom mischief is meant that

993
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:23,439
the fork penetrates its breast to injure a person. A

994
01:10:24,159 --> 01:10:28,720
Sanghlis sorcerer will procure a lock of the intended victim's

995
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,520
hair and pairing of his nails or a thread of

996
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:37,079
his garment when he fashions an image of him and

997
01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:40,760
thrust the nails into I'm sorry, thrust the nails made

998
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,640
of five metals into the joints. All these he buries

999
01:10:45,399 --> 01:10:50,279
where the unfortunate man will likely pass. No sooner he

1000
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,399
done so than the victim falls ill with swelling or

1001
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:58,840
stiffness of joints or burning sensations in the body. Are

1002
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,840
disfigurements of the mouth, legs, and arms. It's kind of

1003
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,479
funny that all this stuff is like evil, evil, evil,

1004
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,720
curse you, curse you, curse you. Where's the good stuff?

1005
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,680
It's like, where do you make an effigy and give

1006
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,399
your wife your wife a bigger butt, you know, or

1007
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,760
make her bigger lips, you know, or make the man

1008
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,239
a foot taller with bigger muscles. I mean, where's the

1009
01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:21,720
good stuff? I mean, this is all dark, evil stuff.

1010
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:27,680
Where's the good magic? Similar enchatments are wrought by the

1011
01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:35,039
Moslem peoples of Northern Africa. Thus an Arabic Treatise of

1012
01:11:35,159 --> 01:11:39,159
Magic directs that if you wish to deprive a man

1013
01:11:39,239 --> 01:11:41,600
of the use of his limbs, you should make a

1014
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,159
waxen image of him and engrave his name and his

1015
01:11:45,279 --> 01:11:48,560
mother's name on it. With a knife, of which the

1016
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,359
handle must be made of the same wax. Then smite

1017
01:11:52,359 --> 01:11:55,079
the limb from the image, which answers to a particular

1018
01:11:55,159 --> 01:11:59,319
limb of the man which you desire to disable. At

1019
01:11:59,359 --> 01:12:03,000
the same moment, the limb of the flesh and blood

1020
01:12:03,079 --> 01:12:06,359
will be paralyzed. And I just realized this. It kind

1021
01:12:06,359 --> 01:12:08,119
of come to me as I was reading this. You

1022
01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:10,760
see this in the Bible too. You remember the same story,

1023
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,119
but when the Philistines stole the arc of the Covenant, uh,

1024
01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:16,079
and you got to get into the original languages. Mike

1025
01:12:16,119 --> 01:12:18,279
Hauser kind of into this. When they make those golden

1026
01:12:18,279 --> 01:12:22,239
effigies and give it to the Israelites. It was of

1027
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:28,720
hemorrhoids and penises, because God struck him with with hemorrhoids

1028
01:12:29,079 --> 01:12:36,279
and ed. So to you know, it's like the like,

1029
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,479
the like, the why did he word it? The likeness

1030
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,560
creates more likeness or whatever. So they made little golden

1031
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:49,199
hemorrhoids and little golden penises, in hopes that their God

1032
01:12:49,279 --> 01:12:55,159
would heal them of those ailments. The following is another

1033
01:12:55,239 --> 01:13:00,199
extract from the same treatise. To injure the eye of

1034
01:13:00,199 --> 01:13:03,840
an enemy, take a taper and fashion it into a

1035
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,199
likeness of him whom you would harm. Rite it on

1036
01:13:07,279 --> 01:13:09,920
the seven signs, along with the name of your enemy

1037
01:13:10,119 --> 01:13:12,680
and the name of his mother, and gouge out the

1038
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:17,680
two eyes of the figure with two points. Then put

1039
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:23,239
it in a spot with quicklime, on which you must

1040
01:13:23,319 --> 01:13:28,439
throw a little charub el haram, and bury the hole

1041
01:13:29,199 --> 01:13:33,079
near the fire. The fire will make your victim to shriek,

1042
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,359
and will hurt his eyes so that he will see nothing,

1043
01:13:37,079 --> 01:13:39,479
and that the pain will cause him to utter cries

1044
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:44,000
of distress. But do not prolong the operation more than

1045
01:13:44,039 --> 01:13:47,399
seven days, for he would die, and you would have

1046
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,359
to answer for it at the day of the Last judgment.

1047
01:13:51,079 --> 01:13:54,000
If you wish to heal him, withdraw the figure and

1048
01:13:54,079 --> 01:14:00,800
throw it into the water. He will recover with God's leave. Nowhere,

1049
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:05,000
perhaps were the magic arts more carefully cultivated. Nowhere did

1050
01:14:05,039 --> 01:14:09,520
they enjoy greater esteem or exercise a deeper influence on

1051
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:13,760
the national life than in the land of the pharaohs.

1052
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,279
Little wondered, therefore, that the practice of enchantment by means

1053
01:14:18,319 --> 01:14:22,000
of images were familiar to the wizards of Egypt. A

1054
01:14:22,079 --> 01:14:24,840
drop of a man's blood, some clippings of his hair,

1055
01:14:25,119 --> 01:14:28,000
or pawings of his nails, a rag of his garment

1056
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,800
which he had worn, sufficed to give the sorcerer complete

1057
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:36,920
power over him. The relics of his person. The magician

1058
01:14:37,119 --> 01:14:40,119
kneaded into a lump of wax, which he molded into

1059
01:14:40,119 --> 01:14:43,720
the likeness and dressed after the fashion of his intended victim,

1060
01:14:44,199 --> 01:14:48,039
who was then at the mercy of his tormentor. In

1061
01:14:48,079 --> 01:14:51,039
the image he exposed to the fire, the person whom

1062
01:14:51,039 --> 01:14:54,800
it represented straightway fell into a burning fever. If it

1063
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,279
were stabbed with a knife, he would feel the pain

1064
01:14:57,359 --> 01:15:01,000
of the wound. Thus, for instance, a certain superintendent of

1065
01:15:01,039 --> 01:15:04,560
the king's cattle was once persecuted in an Egyptian court

1066
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,880
of law for having made figures of men and women

1067
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:13,239
in wax, thereby causing paralysis of their limbs and other

1068
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:17,239
grievous bodily harm. He had somehow obtained a book of magic,

1069
01:15:17,279 --> 01:15:20,680
which contained the spells and directions how to act in

1070
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,680
reciting them. Armed with this I'm sorry. Armed with his

1071
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,880
powerful instrument of rogue, had shut himself up in a

1072
01:15:29,199 --> 01:15:32,319
secret chamber, and there proceeded to cast spells over the

1073
01:15:32,359 --> 01:15:38,079
people of his town. In ancient Babylonia, also it was

1074
01:15:38,119 --> 01:15:41,560
a common practice to make an image of clay, pitch, honey, fat,

1075
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,199
or other soft materials and the likeness of an enemy,

1076
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:49,039
and to endure or kill him with burning, burying, or

1077
01:15:49,399 --> 01:15:53,319
otherwise ill treating it. Thus, in a hymn to the

1078
01:15:53,359 --> 01:15:58,199
fire God Nuscu, we read those who have made images

1079
01:15:58,239 --> 01:16:03,079
of me, reproducing my features, who have taken away my breath,

1080
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,960
torn my hairs, who have rent my clothes, have hindered

1081
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,600
my feet from treading the dust, made the fire god

1082
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,680
the strong one, break their charm. Okay, guys, I'm gonna

1083
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:23,399
stop right there, getting kind of parched, and we'll pick

1084
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,680
up there where we left off. I'll try to do

1085
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:30,119
this again here pretty soon. Stretch them out so long.

1086
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,159
But guys, I appreciate you coming and hanging out.

1087
01:16:33,199 --> 01:16:33,319
Speaker 1: Man.

1088
01:16:33,399 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 5: Hey, just a quick reminder if you haven't done so already. Man,

1089
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,199
don't be a jackass. If you watch this and you

1090
01:16:41,319 --> 01:16:43,439
know hearing me read and you're enjoying it, just even

1091
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,560
a little bit. Man, Hey, hit that light button, bro it.

1092
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,199
It helps me out so much. That is the podcast currency.

1093
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,680
Don't cost you a die, but it helps me tremendously.

1094
01:16:52,279 --> 01:16:55,720
So thank you very much, guys. And if you enjoyed this,

1095
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,000
and you got a friend you think would enjoy this, hey,

1096
01:16:58,079 --> 01:17:02,000
let them know too. Man, the more the let's increase

1097
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,039
the study group here. I'd love to get you guys

1098
01:17:05,039 --> 01:17:08,680
in here and be a little bit more talkative. We

1099
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,640
can go back and forth. I'll take breaks and look

1100
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,600
at some of the stuff you guys are saying. But

1101
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,319
I appreciations coming out and showing out. I love you guys.

1102
01:17:16,119 --> 01:17:19,319
Be sure to tune in. I'm trying to think. Sunday

1103
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,079
at eight pm Easter Standard Time, we are reading once

1104
01:17:22,119 --> 01:17:27,279
again through Lewis Ginsburg Legends of the Jews. We are

1105
01:17:27,359 --> 01:17:30,079
on episode I think thirty one. So we've been doing

1106
01:17:30,079 --> 01:17:33,199
this for a while, so if you haven't joined us already,

1107
01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:35,760
you've got some catching up to do. But we do

1108
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:40,199
that every Sunday eight pm Eastern Standard Time and Monday.

1109
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:44,439
Every Monday at six pm Eastern Center Time, we have

1110
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:45,840
our live from here in chat.

1111
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 3: We had Mickey, Joey.

1112
01:17:47,399 --> 01:17:51,039
Speaker 5: Anderson last week from Eden to Ai, great episode as

1113
01:17:51,079 --> 01:17:55,439
a banger. Next week we have Cameron Waters coming on

1114
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:59,199
to talk about the Jewish sacrificial system and eating of meat.

1115
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,239
He's done some deep dive research and he believes that

1116
01:18:03,359 --> 01:18:06,760
we're not supposed to be meat and God never condoned

1117
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:11,039
the sacrifices. So I'm not given up my meat, okay,

1118
01:18:11,039 --> 01:18:12,680
But I listened to what the man had to say

1119
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,920
and it was the interesting conversation. To say the least,

1120
01:18:15,279 --> 01:18:17,000
Come join us, hang out and let me know what

1121
01:18:17,039 --> 01:18:18,800
you guys think about it. Hey, I love y'all.

1122
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: Man.

1123
01:18:19,079 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 5: Hey, just remember the difference between the known any Unknow,

1124
01:18:22,399 --> 01:18:27,199
that is the journey, my friends, so good journey the.

1125
01:18:30,359 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: Truth.

1126
01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:44,319
Speaker 6: So we steal the fisher stell frozen by the pat around.

1127
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:45,159
Speaker 2: They con