1 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here'sh MS, 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,839 your source of information and analysis to help you win 3 00:00:14,919 --> 00:00:16,199 your fantasy hockey league. 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: Block off, hop a, step hit on, stay lock. 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,719 Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Sevier and Victor Nuno Fantasy. 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,039 Speaker 3: Hockey Live back once again. I'm Jesse severa fantracks. That 7 00:00:29,239 --> 00:00:32,520 is Victor Nuno of if you ringside, Victor, how you doing. 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,399 Speaker 2: I'm doing awesome, Jesse. I'm super excited for what we 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,840 have in store today and the World Juniors that are 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,119 coming up. It's just holidays, Christmas all that. It's it's 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,880 a great time of year. How you doing, my friend? 12 00:00:44,119 --> 00:00:47,039 Speaker 3: That's right. It's a time for people to spend time 13 00:00:47,079 --> 00:00:50,280 with kith and or kin and if you have neither 14 00:00:50,359 --> 00:00:52,320 kith nor kin, or you have them and want to 15 00:00:52,359 --> 00:00:55,679 avoid them, great news because come the day after Christmas 16 00:00:55,759 --> 00:00:59,079 aka Boxing Day, you can just watch the World Juniors. 17 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:01,359 Rest of the way in one of the places where 18 00:01:01,399 --> 00:01:03,119 you could talk about it. You could pop over to 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,719 our FHL discord where people are always popping. I think 20 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:10,000 there are World Junior pools. Probably by the time, I 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,719 think by the time people listen to this, it might 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,519 be too late to join, Victor, is that true or 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,280 is there still time? 24 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're already drafting. I'm already in the fourth and 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,239 fifth round drafting. Yeah, it's already going. 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: All right, this is releasing Sunday afternoon, and maybe you 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,079 could just come watch the drafting. I don't know if 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,439 you like to watch this stuff anyway, Victor, I don't know. 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,519 I'm ahead of myself. I'm behind myself. I think you 30 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,519 need to put people straight about all the cool things 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,439 that they could do, even above and beyond the World juniors. 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,359 As far as our Patreon. 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to check it out where we 34 00:01:43,519 --> 00:01:46,959 have some bonus content there patron casts. We have Patron 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,599 Priority channel on the discord if you want access to 36 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,920 the website with the player cards, which Brannon just did 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,000 a big update and actually took in some feedback based 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,560 on the most recent update and updated it again so 39 00:01:57,719 --> 00:02:00,760 it looks even cooler. There's a bunch of advances, blocks, 40 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:04,239 hot hits, shots, Fenwick takeaways, all that kind of stuff 41 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:07,879 for prospects, including the ranks by the Puck studlist that 42 00:02:07,959 --> 00:02:10,680 I curate. So a bunch of cool stuff. If you 43 00:02:10,719 --> 00:02:12,960 want to participate in the tidy the Tier Dynasty. We 44 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,680 do have a couple of spots that are opening up 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,039 from some gms that need to step away, so you 46 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,280 can get in on that. Go over to patreon dot 47 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:21,520 com slash Fantasy Hockey Life. 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 3: Very good, All right, we can't wait any longer. Stepping 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,479 away for just a second. When we come back, it's 50 00:02:27,479 --> 00:02:28,560 the Big Draft. 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 4: Back and it. 52 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: Is a crossover episode, folks. It is FHL, it is DPR, 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,680 Dabber Prospects Report. Victor is both. But in addition to 54 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:50,120 Victor wearing all those hats, we have joined us today, 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,960 Peter Harlan and Jim I Cavone. Peter, Jim, how you 56 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,520 doing I'm. 57 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,199 Speaker 4: Good man, I'm good. 58 00:02:57,199 --> 00:03:00,039 Speaker 5: How about you, Jim, I'm doing great. I'm excited. I 59 00:03:00,039 --> 00:03:01,639 had to kick this off. We should have a fun 60 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,840 episode for everyone Christmas. 61 00:03:03,479 --> 00:03:05,439 Speaker 4: And the World Juniors at the same time, Like what 62 00:03:05,479 --> 00:03:06,719 more could you possibly ask for? 63 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 5: True that time of year, the year, time of year 64 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:09,919 everyone looks forward to. 65 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: Oh man, this is going to be so cool. So 66 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,159 we are doing this. We're doing this draft. It is 67 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,919 about the World Juniors because people want to think about 68 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,800 that when you're driving forever to your aunt's house. When 69 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,080 you are sitting there waiting for the friggin high to 70 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,479 be served after the meal, you need something to think about, 71 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,800 you need something to contemplate, and that will include those 72 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,319 top few World Juniors players. So today we are doing 73 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:40,520 a snake draft and some basic formatting things here, folks. 74 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,159 We're going to go through nine rounds. This is a 75 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:45,759 crossover episode, so the first half of this will be 76 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,759 on our feed, the second half will be on the 77 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,360 Diver Prospects Report feed. You got to listen to both 78 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,039 people today if you want to know how this whole 79 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,120 thing comes out. And we are going to go through 80 00:03:57,159 --> 00:04:02,759 five forwards, three defensemen, and one goalie. The settings are simple. 81 00:04:02,879 --> 00:04:05,560 The scoring for this league. If I can pull up 82 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,840 the right tab here, Victor, I believe it's one point 83 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,439 for goal, one point for assist, one for what a win, 84 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:14,520 and one for a shutout? Is that right, Victor? 85 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:17,079 Speaker 2: You managed to get there, Jesse. 86 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:19,759 Speaker 3: Oh man, that was It was tense. It was touch 87 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,399 and go, Victor, but we got there. And yeah, we're 88 00:04:22,439 --> 00:04:25,920 gonna snake around. We're gonna go nine rounds and obviously 89 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:27,959 all the players who are playing in the World Juniors 90 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,040 will count toward this roster. I don't know, fellas, but 91 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,199 before we take the first pick, does anybody want to 92 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,639 divulge their strategy? Does anybody want to completely out themselves 93 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,160 so that the rest of the three of us can 94 00:04:40,199 --> 00:04:42,360 snipe you back and forth the whole way? Victor, why 95 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:44,079 at you star? What do you think of this whole thing? 96 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 97 00:04:46,079 --> 00:04:48,079 Speaker 2: I do have the privilege of having already started the 98 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,160 Fantasy Hockey Life draft that we're doing with some of 99 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:54,920 the listeners, and it's been pretty It's been pretty interesting 100 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,560 because I think you have the heavy top line of 101 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,199 the Americans who probably will lead the turn scoring. I'm guessing. 102 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:04,319 I don't think I'm giving anything away there, but Canada 103 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,079 has much more balance, and I think you got a 104 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:09,240 lot more options there with the forwards. In Canada, there's 105 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,720 really only a few high end goalies that I think 106 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,319 expect to play all the tournament, which is better for 107 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,680 our purposes. And that other draft you got nine guys, 108 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:21,000 and I don't think there are nine relevant goalies, so 109 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,879 you're going to get some backups that aren't probably going 110 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,680 to get too many points. But for us, I think 111 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:26,759 you know at least to two or three are going 112 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,120 to be good. The fourth person might not get the 113 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,879 best goalie, but it still should be fine, and then 114 00:05:31,959 --> 00:05:34,639 you got the defenseman who you know there. I think 115 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,160 there are clearly some top end guys that are that 116 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,800 are going to be involved a lot, and then there's 117 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,720 a bunch that are probably just going to be placeholders 118 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:44,800 that aren't going to do too much. So I think 119 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,600 you've got to be really selective. I think it's gonna 120 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,519 be interesting that you can make a case for a 121 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,160 goalie or defense going a little bit earlier than you 122 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,079 might otherwise, just based on the setup of this tournament. 123 00:05:55,079 --> 00:05:58,759 In particular, there was actually in the other pool that 124 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,199 I'm doing, the goal that I won't spoil went tenth overall, 125 00:06:03,399 --> 00:06:06,240 and I think there were discussions of him going top five, 126 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:09,839 but didn't pull the tricker on that one. So yeah, 127 00:06:09,959 --> 00:06:12,480 it's it's gonna be it's gonna be fun. But that's 128 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,079 without giving too much away, but giving some context. I 129 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:16,920 think that's where we're at. I think clearly everyone knows 130 00:06:16,959 --> 00:06:19,560 it's US, it's Canada, it's Sweden. Those are the top 131 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,279 three that everyone expects to medal in one order or 132 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:27,000 the other and has the most relevant players also, so 133 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,600 that's what we're looking at mainly I'd be shocked if 134 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,160 any of you pick Kazakhstan or Germany or was it 135 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:34,839 the other one Latvia? I can't remember it. 136 00:06:34,879 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Victory, I'm crossing off my Latvia heavy strategy. 137 00:06:38,959 --> 00:06:41,680 I was gonna go with the Latvia stack, the lat 138 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,079 stack as I like to call it, and so much 139 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,680 for that idea, although I guess it's still open to me. 140 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,560 How about you, Jim, you have any opening thoughts before 141 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,240 we get in. Obviously we're gonna be talking about some 142 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,079 of the individual players, but yeah, what do you think, man. 143 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go heavy United States and Canada. I think 144 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:00,920 here the rosters are absolutely stacked, and Victor mentioned the 145 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,240 United States top line. 146 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 5: A lot of pressure too with the first overall pick. 147 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 6: I believe it or not, I don't know who to 148 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:08,920 pick here, so there's just too many guys to choose from. 149 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 5: So I'm going to go with my favorite one. I 150 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:11,720 think that's my strategy. 151 00:07:12,319 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you. I got the second pick. It's 152 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,720 going to go Jim, Me, Victor, Peter, and then we're 153 00:07:18,759 --> 00:07:21,879 reversed back in some ways. I'm not complaining about where 154 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:24,160 it was drawn for me to pick, but some ways 155 00:07:24,199 --> 00:07:25,800 it might have been better to pick later, because it 156 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,199 seems like there's a tier at the top, and to 157 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,000 get two guys in say the top five or the 158 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,079 top six, might be better than the second and the seventh. 159 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,800 But you never know, how about you. Peter, any opening 160 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,959 thoughts before we get into this. 161 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: I like your Latvia heavy strategy. Actually, I think that's 162 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:42,959 the way to go. You pick before me, so you're 163 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:45,399 gonna get the best Latvian player and I won't. So 164 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,040 maybe I'll switch up and go heavy. Kazakhstan. They've got 165 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,519 the only Sens draft pick and the tournament's in Outawa, 166 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:53,839 so that would be a lot of fun to cheer 167 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,639 for that guy in your fantasy roster while it's in Outawa. 168 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate that. That's like an alliance that we're 169 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,240 making here. Peter to agree. I won't take your cozahs, 170 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,000 you don't take my lets, and that way we both 171 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,600 have a chance. 172 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: I think that's called collusion. 173 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: I think the other guys will be okay with it, 174 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:16,680 to be honest, Ye, yeah, I'll good proceed. It's the 175 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,879 only collusion if they don't like it, all right, Yes, 176 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,720 Victor gives us the nod all right, maybe we should 177 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,839 get into this. Let's start out with pick number one overall, Jim, 178 00:08:25,959 --> 00:08:28,439 you've been given a chance to think about it. Who 179 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:28,920 do you got? 180 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I mentioned this was a little harder than 181 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,279 it should have been, maybe here because you have players 182 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,399 like Avin McKennon and James Hagen's and portomartone. But I 183 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,720 think at the end of the day, I'm gonna go 184 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,360 with my guy, and it's a winger, a guy that 185 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:47,600 combines skill, speed, physicality. He's a leader, great on the 186 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,919 fore check, goot into defensive zone, and that's going to 187 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,200 be Ryan Leonard from the United States team. 188 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:54,279 Speaker 2: First overall pick. 189 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,279 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with my guy. 190 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, all right, what do you think victory? You're 191 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,000 starting to speak there? 192 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I was. Yeah. So in our league he 193 00:09:03,159 --> 00:09:06,360 went number one, and the other league, the B League 194 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:08,759 Lives drafting, I think he went like seventh or eighth, 195 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,159 So there's definitely some disparity there, or maybe not that late. 196 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:14,600 It was fourth or fifth. It was much later than 197 00:09:14,639 --> 00:09:18,399 I thought, and so I think you rip, Jim. It's 198 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:21,799 hard to it's hard to pick from one of those three, 199 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,840 but getting one of those three is going to be 200 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,200 help I think because they're gonna put up a lot 201 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,559 of points. Yeah, why don't we just where I can 202 00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:29,639 just take the third one? 203 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 3: She's son of a gun. All right, I'll make it easier. 204 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,639 I'll give you who I think will be the third 205 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,440 best of the three, because I'll take James Hagens at 206 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,279 pick number two, blowing it up in college right now, 207 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:45,440 thought to be potentially in the mix for the number 208 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,159 one overall pick. It depends on who you ask right now. 209 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:50,879 It seems to be a fluid situation that may not 210 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,960 really be settled until the summer. But James Hagen's of 211 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,759 the United States, one of our twenty two thousand and 212 00:09:56,799 --> 00:09:59,080 six is who will be coming out this summer, and 213 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,559 I'm sure will be spoken of a lot on our 214 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,600 both of the pods represented in this podcast. Any argument 215 00:10:06,639 --> 00:10:09,639 against James Hagen's anybody want to make before Victor does 216 00:10:09,639 --> 00:10:09,960 his thing? 217 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: Great pick? Not really? He's a beast and he is 218 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,279 draft eligible. So do you tend to think of those 219 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,159 guys not being able to get as many points? But 220 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,960 when you're as elite as he is, I don't think 221 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,960 there's too much debate there. And it's funny because this 222 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,840 is the same thing that happened in my pool where 223 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,600 I picked third and the third option to me was 224 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,919 Gay Pro, And I'm actually very happy with that because 225 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,919 I think there's a pretty decent chance that Pro ends 226 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,440 up with as many or more points than those two, 227 00:10:36,519 --> 00:10:40,720 just because that's what he does, is score Leonard. You know, 228 00:10:40,759 --> 00:10:43,480 if you're protecting the lead out late, you might not 229 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,639 have Pro out there, but you will have Ryan Leonard 230 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,840 and Hagen's is probably gonna be taking the draws and 231 00:10:47,879 --> 00:10:52,279 all that, but every offensive situation he might get, he 232 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,279 might he'll be a part of all that. So I'm 233 00:10:55,279 --> 00:10:58,279 pretty happy with that. And it went one, two three, USA, 234 00:10:58,399 --> 00:11:01,559 Pete so more USA. 235 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:05,799 Speaker 4: I really wanted to get at least one of those guys, 236 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,360 but I can't say I'm surprised that I didn't. There's 237 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,240 some pretty heady competition in this league. You guys know 238 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,600 your stuff, and I think you all nailed it right 239 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,240 out of the park there. So I might actually start 240 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,039 looking towards Canada and go with a couple of offensive 241 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:27,279 juggernauts there, maybe Beckett, Seneca and Zane Perrek checks notes. Nope, 242 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,200 not gonna go with those guys, although I might maybe 243 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,879 would have if they made the tournament, but somehow they 244 00:11:32,879 --> 00:11:37,159 didn't all right, So I think the James Hagens pick. 245 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,840 One of the most exciting things about that is as 246 00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:42,919 a draft eligible player, there's a lot of buzz around 247 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,360 draft eligible players and their draft year and in this 248 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,159 tournament especially, and they get a lot of extra chatter 249 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,759 and buzz. And so when you have a guy on 250 00:11:50,799 --> 00:11:53,679 your fantasy your roster that everyone's talking about, it's always fun. 251 00:11:53,799 --> 00:11:57,799 And I've watched some of the pre tournament games as well, 252 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,480 and the concern with d eligible players is they might 253 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:03,720 be a little bit deeper down the list. And he's 254 00:12:03,759 --> 00:12:05,960 not even draft eligible for twenty twenty four. He's got 255 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,200 another year to go before or sorry, twenty twenty five. 256 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,919 He's not eligible for the following draft after this one, 257 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,440 so he's two years out. So historically those players don't 258 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,879 have prime minutes, and he might not have them to 259 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,080 start the tournament because is a you know, it's a 260 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:25,360 nineteen year old tournament. But I think, like Connor Bdard did, 261 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,039 I think he is going to just gravitate up the 262 00:12:28,159 --> 00:12:33,440 roster as he's just so influential in the games that 263 00:12:33,639 --> 00:12:36,960 I've watched him play, and I think by the time 264 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,360 we're into the final couple of games, I think he'll 265 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,039 be Candida's go to player. So my first guy is 266 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,360 going to be Gavin McKenna. That is pick number four. 267 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, tremendous, tremendous. That's the other theme of this is 268 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:54,639 the young guys versus the established guys, right or the 269 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,200 guys who are already drafted, And that's Is he the 270 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,039 youngest player in this tournament, Peter, I think so. 271 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 4: I think so. I don't think there's any other twenty 272 00:13:04,399 --> 00:13:07,360 six draft eligible players. There is a bunch of twenty fives, 273 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:08,240 but I think he is. 274 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 3: The youngest relevant one certainly. 275 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:11,279 Speaker 4: But yeah, absolutely, you got the. 276 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: Turn here, sir. So you get two in a row, right, Yes. 277 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 4: Yes, and no, I'm not going to start the run 278 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,840 on goalie or defense either. I'm gonna stick with Canada 279 00:13:20,879 --> 00:13:23,759 and I think another player. I got two choices here 280 00:13:23,919 --> 00:13:28,039 that I think are either pick is is quite correct, 281 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,840 as they're both prolific and dynamic offensive players. But I'm 282 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,240 only going to give you the name of the player 283 00:13:34,279 --> 00:13:36,960 I'm picking, and I'm gonna go with the guy that's 284 00:13:37,039 --> 00:13:40,120 got a super hot streak since last season through the 285 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,080 regular season Playoffs, Memorial Cup. He's had a point streak 286 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,120 of over fifty games split over two seasons, and I 287 00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:50,000 think he could be the tournament leading scorer. 288 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,159 Speaker 2: I know it is. 289 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:54,159 Speaker 4: I hold your questions till the end of the conference piece. 290 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:59,840 And I think players become kind of Canadian folklore in 291 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,519 this tournament if they have a just a massive tournament. 292 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,120 And so this is a guy that with a high 293 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:08,120 pedigree and profile plays for the London Nights. He's drafted 294 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,639 by the Toronto Maple Leafs. I'm gonna go get Easton 295 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,960 Town is my next pick. 296 00:14:13,639 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: He'd picked a maple leaf how surprising. 297 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:19,799 Speaker 4: It's not with my heart though, I think this is 298 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,080 a very legit. 299 00:14:20,879 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: Pick that's giving you a hard time. There's a lot 300 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,919 of right choices to pick from Canada. That's part of 301 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,799 the reason. That's part of what makes it difficult, I think, 302 00:14:30,919 --> 00:14:32,960 is that I think that there are gonna be a 303 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 lot of Canadians that they're scoring a lot, and it 304 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,919 might it probably will be him, but it might be 305 00:14:38,919 --> 00:14:40,679 someone else. But that's why it's a little hard to 306 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,919 start the run on them, in my opinion. But I'm 307 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:46,799 more than happy to pick the second, third, or fourth 308 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,120 guy from Team Canada personally, but let's see, Oh, I 309 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,919 guess it is my turn, huh. All right after the 310 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,080 top USA, I think it gets a little bit more 311 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,360 challenging to pick. One thing that I think is going 312 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:04,919 to be a little bit tricky is picking the top 313 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,360 defense and I really think that they're only a handful 314 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,639 that I think are going to be really impactful, and 315 00:15:12,679 --> 00:15:14,519 I think most of them come from the top country. 316 00:15:14,559 --> 00:15:17,039 There's a couple of the countries that might not make 317 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,080 it past the quarters, that have a couple of decent guys, 318 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,399 But to me, it really comes down to Canada, US, 319 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,799 Sweden for those top spots, and I am actually going 320 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:31,840 to go I think that this guy was defenseman of 321 00:15:31,879 --> 00:15:35,039 the Tournament last year, and I think the Swedes don't 322 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,279 look quite as dominant as the rest. But I'm going 323 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,759 to go ahead and take Axel sending Palico with my 324 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,919 second round pick. I think he's gonna whatever scoring the 325 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Swedes do, he should get in on it, and they 326 00:15:45,639 --> 00:15:47,840 should be especially the side of the bracket they're on. 327 00:15:47,879 --> 00:15:49,399 They're going to get at least of the semis, so 328 00:15:49,399 --> 00:15:52,360 they should get the maximum number of games even if 329 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:54,360 they lose in the semis. Have a third place game, 330 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,879 which totally counts in the points. I'm going to go 331 00:15:56,919 --> 00:15:59,399 with him even though that. I'm curious, you guys think 332 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,519 he's the best fence on the board. Does anyone disagree 333 00:16:01,559 --> 00:16:01,720 with that? 334 00:16:02,679 --> 00:16:04,279 Speaker 3: I think it's a toss up. I think it's a 335 00:16:04,279 --> 00:16:07,759 toss up, but he certainly is right there, Victor. It's 336 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:11,840 more strategic. I think individually he's probably the best strategically 337 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:14,440 in terms of a stack or in terms of whether 338 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,279 a guy makes it to the finals and gets that 339 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,080 one extra game, although a third place game would still 340 00:16:19,399 --> 00:16:20,240 count for stats. 341 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: So yep. 342 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:25,399 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how prolific Sweden's offense is going to be. 343 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,960 I think they're a great team and they're a gold 344 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,120 medal candidate, but I'm just not sure they're going to 345 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,159 have as many goals as candidate and USA overall throughout 346 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:36,840 the tournament. While he might be the best defenseman, I'm 347 00:16:36,879 --> 00:16:40,360 not sure he'll be the most offensively producing defenseman he 348 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:41,000 could be, though. 349 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:45,159 Speaker 3: All right, let's back to me and this one. I'm 350 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,600 going to take who I actually would probably rate as 351 00:16:47,639 --> 00:16:52,759 the top defenceman but also by far the most fun 352 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,639 name to say. Now, I won't speak to every one 353 00:16:55,679 --> 00:16:59,080 of the Latvians, Kazakhs, and folks from some of those 354 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,159 other countries we might get to today because there might 355 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,519 be some darn fun names to say there. But I 356 00:17:03,559 --> 00:17:07,319 love seeing z William, our man from the University of 357 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,960 Denver and a prolific probably I think will be the 358 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:16,519 lead defenseman despite a very highly touted guy who we 359 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:19,039 have loved in the past playing also for the USA, 360 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,000 but should be top minutes, should be taking a couple 361 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,119 of those second assists and maybe putting in some of 362 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:29,599 his own for the USA. Zev Bollyem of the USA 363 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,480 my first defenseman before I get to Jim, because Jim 364 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:35,880 has the chance now for. 365 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:36,519 Speaker 2: Back to back. 366 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,519 Speaker 3: Let's take a brief break and come back right after this. 367 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,839 Speaker 1: What is this acrossover episode? 368 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 3: Back into the draft and it's Jim time. Jim, You've 369 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,559 waited an awful long time since Ryan Leonard and now 370 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,680 you get our revenge on all of us. 371 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 6: That time to think because you sniped me there, Jesse 372 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,839 Zee Bulliam was going to be my guy. Great pick, 373 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,759 and I'm going to keep the run on d alive 374 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:10,160 here and I'm gonna go with a former first round 375 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,279 pick of the Philadelphia Flyers surprise Oliver Bunk keep the 376 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,279 run on d going. I think he's going to have 377 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,039 another solid World Juniors with Canada. He's having a decent 378 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,279 year for the London Nights, twenty one points in twenty 379 00:18:21,279 --> 00:18:24,079 four games. Bumper Bunk is going to be my pick 380 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,400 in the second round. And then I guess I'll start 381 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,000 this run. I'll take the who I think could be 382 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,799 the best goalie in the tournament in Carson Bjarnison, and 383 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,480 just a coincidence that he's another Flyers prospect. I'm not 384 00:18:36,519 --> 00:18:39,680 going to be picking all Flyers prospects, but Carson Bjarnison 385 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,279 will be my pick to start the third round. 386 00:18:43,079 --> 00:18:45,039 Speaker 4: Sure, sure, sure, sure. 387 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: Wow wow, I thought you had me on that one, Jim, 388 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,759 But spoilers, I'm taking Trey Augustine right here at USA goalie. 389 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:56,880 That was the guy I was really you started talking goalie. 390 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,960 I was ready to throw my hat down on the ground. 391 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,519 You probably in the end, you probably made a better 392 00:19:01,519 --> 00:19:03,200 pick to me. I don't know, but let's keep the 393 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,960 Apparently I'm a USA stack now that must be an 394 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,240 American or something. I don't know what happened over here. 395 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:11,119 It's usually fun to put on another Country's jersey for 396 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,799 this just for the Lulls. But Trey Arnstein. But I'm 397 00:19:14,839 --> 00:19:17,240 scooping you, man. I don't want to step on the 398 00:19:17,279 --> 00:19:19,759 picks you had there. Those were great. You got a 399 00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:22,359 couple of Phillies, you got a couple of got a 400 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,359 couple of flyers, and you got a couple of big 401 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,359 time players. Oliver Bank is guy who's we've been talking 402 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,200 about a lot lately, who's really been blown up this year. 403 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. 404 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 6: You had a big season last year, really put him 405 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,839 on the map. Flyers fans are excited for him. A 406 00:19:38,839 --> 00:19:41,759 big right shot defenseman. It plays that bumper spot on 407 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:44,519 the power play. I'm i like watching him play for 408 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,079 Canada more than I like watching him play for the 409 00:19:47,079 --> 00:19:50,319 London Nights because I'm not sure how his game with 410 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,440 London will translate to the pros. So I'm looking forward 411 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,119 to watching him with Team Canada during the World Juniors. 412 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:57,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 413 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 4: Cool. 414 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: And then, so now two goalies off the board, Victor 415 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,279 Bjarnsen in Augustine. The good news strategically for you and 416 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,759 Peter now is nobody else can back up drafted backup goalie. 417 00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:15,480 There's only two more goalies going in the last six 418 00:20:15,519 --> 00:20:17,599 and a half rounds of this draft, so it almost 419 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,519 unless there's one bet or another. You guys can wait 420 00:20:19,559 --> 00:20:22,920 till the ninth round if you want, But that just strategically. 421 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,559 That's one of the interesting things about this draft is 422 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:28,519 that you get to a point where certain positions just 423 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:32,559 can't be drafted. So anyway, Victor, how does this goalie 424 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,559 run impact you? Are you crushed? Did we destroy you? 425 00:20:35,599 --> 00:20:37,240 Because that's all I really want to happen. 426 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: I think those are the two clear Actually, I think 427 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,119 Augustine is the clear number one at playing. He's a 428 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,119 guy who's for sure going to play all the minutes 429 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:51,319 and is on one of the better teams, be honest, 430 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,880 and I think is very likely to get some games 431 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,359 and he's on a good team, but I don't know 432 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,680 that he's the for sure starter. That's the only issue 433 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,359 with him. And there's another goalie who I think is better, 434 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,160 but the team is not as good and so that 435 00:21:05,279 --> 00:21:09,920 makes it difficult. And I think I don't think I'm 436 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,720 giving anything away because pet and I were just talking 437 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,000 about this, but we're not exactly sure who's going to 438 00:21:14,039 --> 00:21:15,880 play for Sweden. I think Sweden's going to be good, 439 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,680 but I don't know that they have a goalie that's 440 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,759 for sure going to play all the games. So Augustine 441 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,559 is by far the best goalie pick of my opinion, 442 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,440 just because he's going to play unless he gets hurt 443 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,440 and knock on wood. 444 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,279 Speaker 4: He's the safest. 445 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: He's the safest. Yeah, and I think the US is 446 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,200 for sure gonna he's going to get the most games 447 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,400 because I think the other unless one of the other goalies, 448 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,799 like for Canada Sweden gets on a roll and they 449 00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:40,559 just don't take him out, then they'll play just as 450 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:45,839 many games. But yeah, that's that's a good one, all right. 451 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,160 So yeah, and part of my thought process, you took 452 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,640 Ze Bullyam. I really wanted to take Zee Bullyam. I 453 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,720 was a little worried about stacking too many Americans on 454 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,200 one team, and so that was something that made me 455 00:21:57,559 --> 00:22:00,319 a little bit worried. But you know what, I'm to go. 456 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 4: Don't do it. Don't do it, Victor, don't take my guy. 457 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. 458 00:22:04,279 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 4: Don't you dare. 459 00:22:05,759 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. I wanted him in my other draft, 460 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,440 and I chickened out a little bit. But I think 461 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,519 Matthew Shaffer is going to be a big part of 462 00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:18,200 this tournament. Even though he's draft eligible. The guy is 463 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,559 just such a beast and he's already looking better than 464 00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:24,920 a lot of the drafted defenseman on Team Canada, and 465 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:27,000 so I just I think he's going to be I 466 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,519 think it's gonna be awesome. He may not start at the 467 00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:31,440 beginning of the tournament being one of the top d 468 00:22:31,519 --> 00:22:33,799 running the top power play, but I think he's going 469 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,440 to end up there. And it's a good team and 470 00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:39,480 want some of that. So I'm gonna. 471 00:22:39,279 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 4: Listen, this ends our friendship. Fine, fine, good pick? All right? 472 00:22:47,079 --> 00:22:50,440 That that said it to me? Then yeah for twelve, Peter, yep, 473 00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:55,880 all right, regroup time. There's I've always wanted to get 474 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,839 one of these brothers in my drafts, and I prioritize 475 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,279 them hither than when they've been drafted, and they still 476 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,640 never have fallen to me. So this is going to 477 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,680 be my first opportunity to have one of the Hudson 478 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,200 brothers on my fantasy roster. So I'm going to go 479 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,319 ahead and take Cole Hudson from USA and that is 480 00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:18,519 going to be my pick number eleven. 481 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 2: What ending of that, I think Cole Hudson's going to 482 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,559 have a huge tournament, which is part of the reason 483 00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:28,720 I shied away a little bit from Zee William, just 484 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,640 because I think William's awesome, But I think Cole Hudson 485 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,519 should be running the top power plays. He has more 486 00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:39,160 of that skill set which is more offensive, and I 487 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,839 think William's going to be out there and more situations, 488 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,720 more even strength situations. He could get more points. But Hudson, 489 00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:48,920 that's his defined role. That's why he's there. He's not 490 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:53,640 there to log big even strength minutes. So yeah, I 491 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,079 definitely like that pick. 492 00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 4: I liked it too, all right, so to me again, 493 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:07,119 and it seems to me like the confidence inspiring selection 494 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,599 or pool for offensive defenseman is drying up fast. So 495 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,920 I'm gonna take advantage of that with my back to 496 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,119 back picks, and I'm gonna take my second defenseman and 497 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,160 I'm going back to Canada. And I like Sam Dickinson. 498 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,319 Speaker 2: I was gonna say I left you Dickinson, but you 499 00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:28,519 got there on your own. 500 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, No, I like Dickinson. I think he's I 501 00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:35,559 think he's a pretty pro ready style game, and I 502 00:24:35,559 --> 00:24:37,559 don't think he's gonna have a problem with the pace 503 00:24:38,079 --> 00:24:41,319 that this tournament plays with. And I think he oozes confidence. 504 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,880 He's the offensive defenseman leading scorer in the Ontario Hockey League, 505 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,799 and without Zane Perrek there, I think they're gonna ask 506 00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:53,160 him to step up his offensive game in this tournament 507 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,160 for them and be one of the guys that gets 508 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,839 time on the power play. I think him and Bonk 509 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,759 are gonna they come in with immediate built in chemistry, 510 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,519 both being London Nights, so I think they should be 511 00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:04,640 the top pairing for Canada. 512 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: I'm hoping, all right, at least I don't have to 513 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,640 take another defenseman now for a while. I neither do you. 514 00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:15,279 I have to look here probably makes sense to get 515 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,599 a Canadian full word, so I have to think about 516 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,200 who who's going to be the top here. But that's 517 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,559 one of the hard things I think about picking Canada 518 00:25:24,599 --> 00:25:28,519 is that they have so many great options that it 519 00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:32,720 makes it a little bit more challenging. But I so 520 00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:36,759 I really have a soft spot for Cadden. I'm gonna 521 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:38,559 take Berkeley Cadden. I think he's one of the most 522 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,119 dynamic offensive guys. I think Callen and some of the 523 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,920 other forwards that could go here are maybe better in 524 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,000 all leverage type situations. I don't think Cadden's like bad defensively, 525 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:55,960 but he's more dynamic offensively, so I think that he 526 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,559 he's gonna be a fun one looking forward to watching him. 527 00:25:58,599 --> 00:26:00,319 I think he could put up a lot of points, 528 00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:02,720 so Berkeley Caton. 529 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,279 Speaker 3: I'm fascinating. Look, this mock draft is like the old 530 00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:10,880 TV show whose line is it anyway? Where the game's 531 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,759 made up and the points don't really matter. I should 532 00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:15,759 probably err on the side of not talking strategy, but 533 00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:19,119 I am fascinated. We're halfway through the fourth round. There 534 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,079 have been as many actually yeah, there have been as 535 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,640 many defencemen as forwards taken so far. The first five 536 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,119 picks were all forwards, and then we had a run 537 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,119 of eight straight defenseman and goalies, and now Victor finally 538 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,920 has recracked the seal on the forwards. One wonders if 539 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,160 value over replacement how much that matters. But that only 540 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,039 matters for the five of you who are still out 541 00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:44,400 there in the world trying to draft a World Junior's draft, 542 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:48,920 because certainly there's always the scarcity. And I took a 543 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,200 defenseman too, But I am going back to the forwards, 544 00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:55,119 and I'm going even though there's balance, I'm once again 545 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,079 going to get sucked in by the promise after James 546 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,039 Haggens of the young man on the come and take 547 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,359 port marton power forward. Hopefully he'll get up toward the net, 548 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,839 he'll score a few goals for Canada on the putative 549 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,400 first line, playing up there with a belief he's supposed 550 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,279 to be on that first line with captain that should 551 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:18,640 and McKenna, So that would be a very good thing 552 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,920 to do. So I will figure out how to input 553 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,839 this on this list and take myself a little bit 554 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,759 of port of martone. What do you think, guys, is 555 00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:31,440 Martona is that like you said, there's so many players 556 00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:36,519 who could be relevant for this Canada team. Is this 557 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,160 guy going to make an impact or is this one 558 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,480 of these stop just taking guys because they're young type 559 00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:46,440 situations because there are big prospects for the next draft situations. 560 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,519 I guess I should say. 561 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a lot of upside with Martona. 562 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,240 I think he's got the size and skill to be 563 00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:56,559 an impact player. We'll see the draft. Eligible guys usually 564 00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:59,319 are a little insulated at the World Juniors. On the 565 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,000 deep ross is like Canada. High end draft players for 566 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,920 checks and Slovaks can be in a more prominent role 567 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,240 because they're just not as deep, so he could get 568 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,759 a little bit buried by the agent experience of the 569 00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:15,240 Canadian roster. But like I was saying with McKenna, he 570 00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:19,400 absolutely has the possibility to just play his way up 571 00:28:19,599 --> 00:28:24,160 the roster and into it a top six regular role 572 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,000 in PP one, good big one. 573 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,559 Speaker 3: All right, all right, we're back to the wheel once again. 574 00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:36,680 Jim has been patiently waiting, silently frustrated, probably learning to 575 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,160 hate every one of us by name, possibly with the 576 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,039 voodoo doll below where we can see in his camera 577 00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:46,119 poking needles in all of us. But luckily for him, 578 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,960 he's back up to draft for two here on the wheel. 579 00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, and drafting with you guys makes this tough. Certainly 580 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,720 it's fun, but man, every pickets and it's only four 581 00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:58,960 of us too, so it's funny. But every picket's there 582 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,440 goes my guy, There goes my guy. 583 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,039 Speaker 6: So I'm gonna I'm gonna take cole Eiserman here, natural 584 00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:06,920 goal scorer, elite shot USA should score a lot of 585 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,119 goals this tournament, and another wing. I know, I drafted 586 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,960 Ryan Leonard Ryan Leonard with the first overall pick, so 587 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,400 I'm gonna need a center at some point, but I'm 588 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,440 gonna go Cole Eiserman for USA with this pick. And 589 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,559 then for my second pick here, well, there goes my guy. 590 00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:27,559 Speaker 5: Was it. You're a big Isserman guy for good. 591 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 6: I did that in our draft league too, I think 592 00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:34,240 in our Dynasty league. Sorry Pete, but you got Cole Hudson. 593 00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: Still. 594 00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:35,559 Speaker 5: I think that was the other one. 595 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, at least I got one. 596 00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:37,519 Speaker 5: There you go. 597 00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:40,559 Speaker 6: And then for this next pick here, I'm gonna go 598 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,440 away from the United States and in Canada a bit, 599 00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:47,559 and I'm gonna go Constant Hellnious. Skilled playmaker, good vision, 600 00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:49,880 good pup handling. Someone's got to put up some points 601 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,759 on that team there. So I'm gonna go Constat Hellenius 602 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:54,319 with my pick on the turn there. 603 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,319 Speaker 3: Oh, good pick, I Constant Hellnious. Probably not too much 604 00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:01,799 of a spoiler to say that he was one of 605 00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:06,000 my favorites for the non Big Three teams. The Victor 606 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:08,200 remembers I was a big fan of his back in 607 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,920 the draft, even though it's not always thought of, I 608 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,640 think to be potentially as much of an elite scorer 609 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,160 in the NHL. But he's incredibly skilled and I think 610 00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:17,960 like I said he's going to play a leading role 611 00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:20,880 for that finished team, so I'm fired up about I 612 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,039 was hoping I could wait a few rounds sneak him 613 00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:25,400 in at the end. Nobody's thinking about the Fins at 614 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,480 that point. After Peter gets done taking all of his Kazakhs. 615 00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:31,480 That then we'll just sneak that one in and see 616 00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:31,880 if we can. 617 00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 4: Get it past the group. 618 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: Any reactions to Jim's picks on the wheel, I've got 619 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,400 one more to take in this first half of the 620 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,400 episode after that. 621 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: I think it can be helpful to take players from 622 00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:47,359 other teams that the only thing you don't want is 623 00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:49,480 you don't want someone that goes out when the quarters 624 00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:53,680 or really early, because then you get a lot fewer games. 625 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,720 But I think the Fins always have a propensity to 626 00:30:57,759 --> 00:30:59,559 make an upset or play really well at the team 627 00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:03,559 and Lenny As should be right there. Anything they get 628 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:05,559 a piece out, he should have points on and he 629 00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:08,039 really should be dominant in this tournament. He's been playing 630 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:10,759 against men for a long time, so I think it's 631 00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:13,960 a great pick, and yeah he iserman should He'll be 632 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,759 on one of the power plays. He'll get these munt 633 00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:17,680 even strength time they should score a lot of goals. 634 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,920 He should be there, So definitely like that. 635 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: One I will say that is these are also guys 636 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,039 that I was really hoping to take. So I also 637 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,359 hate you, Jim. Just let it not be a secret. 638 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,839 But no, that's all right, that's all right. But I'm 639 00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:35,759 feeling good. I've got a nice base. I've got a defenseman, 640 00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:38,880 I've got a goalie, I've got two forwards, and you 641 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,599 know what, I think I need to stay on the 642 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,680 forward train here. I'm going to go to that second 643 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,759 line of the USA and hope that Trevor Connelly is 644 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:52,799 able to come up with some more points for my Americans, 645 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:58,880 continuing the stack of the USA team. So yeah, Trevor Connelly, 646 00:31:59,319 --> 00:32:03,559 I believe he's a Vegas Golden Night at this point. 647 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:03,839 Speaker 6: Right. 648 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 3: He didn't get traded yet, not yet. Yes, it could 649 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,759 happen at any moment with him, But he made the 650 00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:14,599 jump to the NCAA this year, so he is. He 651 00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:18,720 is transitioning from that lower level of competition in the 652 00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,519 USHL last year. He's just in his first year of 653 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,240 higher level stuff, but I think that will not preclude him. 654 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,079 He's had a good start at Providence College this year 655 00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:33,599 with eleven points in twelve games and is making the 656 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,880 progress that he needs to make. So I am going 657 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,759 to go ahead and count on Trevor Connolly on that 658 00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:42,920 second line of the USA team to make an impact 659 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:49,480 for my squad. Victor, I think we're back to you. 660 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,400 You've got a nice balance of countries here. You're a 661 00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:56,359 very internationalist, you're practically the United Nations. And who do 662 00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:58,279 you want to pick next on this team? 663 00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: I thought about going to a different country to expand 664 00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,640 my seat at the table for the UN here, but 665 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,079 I think I'm going to stick with the country that 666 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:09,160 I've already picked from. And I do think that Connelly 667 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,960 is probably the fifth best American forward, so like that 668 00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:14,240 there might be another decent one out there, but I 669 00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:18,599 think there's much better options with Canada, and I believe 670 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,319 if I'm reading this board correctly, their top line center 671 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,200 is still available. Depends on who you call their top 672 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,599 line center who's playing wing, But I still think they 673 00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:29,920 have a top liner there and that's cal Richie. So 674 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,440 I'm going to take cal Richie with this pick. I 675 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,720 think that he got some NHL time, Cowen got some 676 00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:39,039 NHL time. A couple of these guys have played really 677 00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,400 high levels, including some of the other guys that I 678 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,599 won't mention to spoil it, but I think Richie and 679 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,240 Cowen are clearly ahead in that way, and they should 680 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,880 have an easier time dominating in this tournament. And so 681 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,279 whether or not there in all the offensive situations is 682 00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:58,359 really the only question. But I think if Canada goes 683 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,480 far and Richie should should have a pretty prominent role 684 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,519 in that, I'm gonna take him. And by the way, 685 00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:05,960 just to clarify what was said earlier, there is no 686 00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:08,440 left wing center right wing, so they're all just forwards, 687 00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:11,360 So don't feel like you need to take a center. 688 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 3: Very good, And now we're to Pete. At the end 689 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,639 of this round. We're going to split Pete's two picks, 690 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,559 So you take one now, Peter, and then you will 691 00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,719 have plenty of time to contemplate what comes next. 692 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 4: All right, I think I'm gonna stick with two forwards 693 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:31,599 for these back to back picks here, and I just 694 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:35,480 have the most confidence with taking Canadian players, So Victor, 695 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,039 he did me a favor there, making my choice a 696 00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:41,280 little bit less convoluted with taking one of the top 697 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,599 I believe four or five players that are still left 698 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,760 on the forward roster for Canada. Good pick with the Richie. 699 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,400 I'm not sure he would have been my guy, so 700 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,920 I also appreciate that you went ahead and took him 701 00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:58,440 instead of taking Bradley Nadou. I think I'm gonna roll 702 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,920 the dice and go with this guy and pick number 703 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:06,239 twenty as he's playing some pretty good hockey. He's been 704 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,360 a player that's been hot and trending up. He doesn't 705 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,159 have a lot of pedigree with Team Canada and that 706 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,519 usually works against you. But despite the fact that he's 707 00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:19,119 not not been a regular player for Hockey Canada, I 708 00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:22,239 think they just couldn't ignore the fact that he's played 709 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,079 his way onto this team and it made other players 710 00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:29,000 expendable like mott Wood and Beckett Seneca. So I think 711 00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:31,039 he's going to be given a lot of opportunity to 712 00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:33,880 play a prominent role for Canada. So that is my 713 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,199 pick to close out this round six or five. 714 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 3: Tremendous, tremendous stuff. Any reactions from the Peanut gallery, of 715 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,760 which I include myself to Pete's finishing pick of this 716 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,599 round five. 717 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 2: I think what's interesting about Nadeau and I think it's 718 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,880 a great pick, but all these teams where players are 719 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,679 playing in the NHL at AHL have a lot more 720 00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:04,480 control over what happens with him, and apparently Carolina was 721 00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,039 very resistant to let him go, but they wanted to 722 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,159 make sure he was going to have a prominent role 723 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,400 and that works in your favor Peep for sure. Now, 724 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,880 whether or not he stays top line power play, that 725 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,199 may change. I don't think it will. I think he's 726 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,639 good enough that he's gonna stay. There's you look at 727 00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:25,039 his production and you might say, oh, he's not doing 728 00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:27,039 that great. But he's playing in the AHL and he 729 00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:30,000 has fifteen points in twenty two games. Don't be mistaken, 730 00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:33,079 that's not great production when you're used to seeing junior 731 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:36,800 scores that are two points per game. Because that's more impressive. 732 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,920 And he's playing against men playing tougher minutes. He should 733 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,599 have a much easier time playing against players that aren't 734 00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:46,480 used to playing such difficult minutes and against bigger, stronger, 735 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,360 physical players. So I think people might look at this 736 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,559 and say, oh, he's not that exciting, he's not tearing 737 00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:54,920 up his league. But I think it's just a different 738 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,199 standard here when you're playing at such a higher level. 739 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,320 So I think he actually is going to have a 740 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,199 really great turn. Red