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Speaker 1: Come back to another episode of the Progress Report. Very

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exciting show today. We have two big popular guests. We

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got of course, Jay Dyer a I'm known for doing debates,

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really a lot of debates. I was saying to Jay,

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I haven't actually watched a lot of his stuff, so

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I'm not super familiar, but I'm looking forward to getting

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to know you do like a movie analysis and stuff

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like that too.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I host Fourth Tower Rebelex Jones every Friday,

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done that for about five years. I have two books

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on philosophy and theology, and just finished my third book

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on Hollywood. And we do do a lot of religious debates,

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that's true. We've done that for the past five or

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six years. And then now I also write for The

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Sam Hyde Show in terms of comedy, so do a

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lot of live streams, a lot of geopolitical commentary and

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content too, So we kind of wear a lot of

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different hats over here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Reby, Yeah, thanks for being here. I'm excited. And

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of course we have Dave Green, the Distributist, a guy

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who I have been watching for a long time, but

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we never we've never done a collab before. I wanted

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to say, this is kind of funny because like, I

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converted to Christianity like five years ago roughly, and I

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was an atheist before that. But I would I was

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watching your videos, Dave, or your streams that you were

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on back in like, you know, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

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and I would think to myself, this guy is pretty smart,

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but what's with the Christian stuff? And I was like

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made me like, like, take you that seriously, I guess,

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and then eventually I kind of came around.

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Speaker 3: Man, twenty sixteen was a wild time. Yeah, And I

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remember Jay Dyer. I'm a huge fan of yours too, LP,

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but I remember Jay mainly for the stuff on Hollywood.

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I remember a few streams with you about that, a

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lot of interesting stuff there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I kind of started out blogging about movies back

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in like twenty eleven, and then I did a few

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years of that and that kind of turned into a

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couple of books and I did continue with that, but

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it just sort of evolved into people started saying, hey,

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why don't you debate this atheist guy, and that kind

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of snowballed into its own, you know, world of doing

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that stuff over there. But yeah, we've continued to do

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the Hollywood stuff, and I just finished the third one,

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so that'll be out in a few a few months.

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That's what her Hollywood Part three. So appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Man, I do jay I remember you from Warsky Live briefly. Yeah,

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that's the first time I was kind of introduced to

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you because I was really into the blood sports stuff

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back then.

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Speaker 2: That led to the debate stuff, right, So I didn't

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plan to debate, but then like Andy was like, well,

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you should debate JF and then we had that that

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JF debate and that basically like opened up the doorway

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to all the other debates. So fun time.

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Speaker 4: Well, debates are useful.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, anyway, the way show works, I have some

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clips from last week. We're going to take a look.

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I'm gonna get your guys takes on them. If you

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want me to pause, you can just start talking and

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I'll pause the video. Otherwise I'll pause it when the

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clip's over. Don't feel like you have to have a

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take on everything, of course, or just if you feel inclined,

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And for super chats, we'll do I'll read this any

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super chats at the end of the show. All right,

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let's get into it. And speaking of Hollywood, and movies,

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and it's you know, it's good for us to start

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the show off with the land acknowledgment.

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Speaker 5: Here we gather in celebration of the oscars on the

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ancestral lands of the Tonga, Tatavium and Schumash people's the

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traditional caretakers of this water.

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Speaker 6: Inland. We honor and pay our.

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Speaker 5: Respects to indigenous communities here.

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Speaker 6: And around the world.

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Speaker 1: So we're still doing that apparently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well they in Canada. It's still the rage.

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Are you mean you're Canadian? Aren't you lpay Yes, I have. Yeah,

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They're all over the land acknowledgments. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys watch the Oscars? I'm guess I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't watch them. I was kind of I don't know,

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did anyone. I was kind of a little bit following

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my parents. My parents watched them. Another watched them. So

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I heard about them secondhand, Like what won some movie

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about a prostitute?

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Speaker 1: I heard, Yeah, Best Picture was like some prostitute movie.

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Speaker 2: T R. A. N Z kind of swept it this year.

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few of war. What is that i'd always we speak

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in code over my t R A n Z oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah A gotcha? Yeah yeah Jay you Since you are

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a movie guy and we're talking about the oscars, I

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wanted to I did want to ask you, did you

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see Joker too?

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately we did. Like, my wife is a fan of musicals,

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and I didn't really know it was a musical. She

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was like, oh, I want to watch Joker too. So

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I got roped into a thing that was not only

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a shitty movie, it was also a shitty musical movie,

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which made it about twenty times worse. Yeah, we did

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what we did watch it?

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Speaker 1: We did your wife like it at least?

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Speaker 4: Or no?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm like I liked it. I'm like the only

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person who liked that.

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Speaker 3: No, no, my wife. My wife liked it. Actually, my

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wife saw it. It was really good except for the end. Yeah,

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so I I think you're not alone, l P. I

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probably see it.

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Speaker 4: Eventually.

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Speaker 3: I keep on getting dragged to supposedly good movies and

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then I end up not liking them, like everyone told

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me knows.

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Speaker 4: For Autu was good, I didn't like, but I.

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Speaker 3: Didn't know I didn't like it. I mean it was

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it was it wasn't bad, but there was. It was

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kind of unremarkable. It was like when I, like, you know,

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just competently made.

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Speaker 4: Slop, is how I would describe it. Uh my right, Let's.

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Speaker 1: See what else we got here.

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Speaker 7: One hundred and forty race based laws in South Africa,

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all anti white, and eight days ago Cyril Ramoposa, our president,

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signed into law. And just hear these three words expropriation

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without compensation. And this is just the straw that broke

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the camel's back. There's been endless laws anti white, boiling

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us like a frog in a bowl. And all I

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can say is thank you America, and thank you Donald

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Trump for taking notes. Because we are on the edge

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of the socialist abyss.

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Speaker 8: So how do you guys get out of this? Obviously

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there's a complex racial history there. How do you reverse

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some of this? I mean, that's an awful out of laws.

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Speaker 7: And I don't think we can Internally. We have to

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wait till the twenty twenty nine national election, and I

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don't think our economy will survive. It requires some external

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dynamic to change it. I think Donald Trump in America

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taking notes and coming in swinging for a baseball bat,

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maybe that dynamic we need.

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Speaker 8: So when you saw over the last couple of years

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in America wokeness infecting our systems and suddenly we were

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focused on race and we were putting it into the

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very people who said we were systemically racists that were

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putting racism into the system in a systemic way, it

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must have given you a little concern about the direction

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we're going, as much as that's now been rolled back.

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Speaker 7: Well, we've been infected in South Africa with the evil

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woke mind virus way more than in America. We've got

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at times too, and there's no momentum in South Africa

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to reverse it. In fact, it's quite the opposite.

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Speaker 4: Oo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of a heavy topic, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I mean, eventually the boors are going to have to

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transition from ethnic lobbying to separatism. That's the only future

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for them. I don't know how this keeps on going.

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I mean, the only reason why they're not completely ethnically

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cleansed is people that there's like there aret least a

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few people at the State Department that make sounds to

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the South African government that such a move would be

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rather unwise, And increasingly the South African government is moving

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in that direction anyway, and I guess they already have.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, like, what's it going to be.

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Speaker 3: They're going to bat away the dispossession of ethnic cleansing

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every single time it comes up until when until America

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gets a government that doesn't want to and then you're

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out of the country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So Donald Trump is he's been making noise and

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kind of you know, beating his chest at the government there,

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and it's good to draw attention to this thing that's

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been going on for like decades now. But that guy,

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the guy Ruben, was talking there too. I'm not one

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hundred percent sure who that guy is, but he's saying that, like,

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we can't fix it internally and we need America to

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save us. And when I hear that, I kind of think, like, well,

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economic sanctions or whatever America would do that might stop

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them from appropriating your land as an official policy, but

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it's not going to stop like roaming gangs from coming

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to your farm and killing you and taking all your stuff,

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you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, I have no idea how you

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solve this problem outside of an eventual path to separatism.

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part of Afro Forum con Carol. But yeah, I don't

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know what's the endgame for why it's South African or

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Africaners in this situation.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It seems like I mean, they have a Rania, they

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have ethnic lobbying, but the entirety of the bounty population

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of that country is going to be pushing ceaselessly for

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expropriation without redress. And if that occurs, then all the

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political power that the boors have is going to be

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evaporated and that will be followed in.

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Speaker 4: Turn by violence. As it always is.

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Speaker 3: Appropriation is always the first step of an ethnic cleansing process.

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And if that goes on, I wouldn't keep my family

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in that country. I mean, this is exact pattern happened

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in Rhodesia Zimbabwe, and it's happening here. And if the

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this is so strange. I mean we have entertained separatism

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in Africa before. When South Sadan had an ethnic cleansing

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problem from North Sedan, we just broke half of that

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country off and the cleared that its own separate country.

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts on that.

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Speaker 6: Jay.

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Speaker 2: Well, Uh, one of the a couple of texts that

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I've covered that are historically really important. Uh. Two of that,

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they're both from doctor Carroll Quigley. There's Tragy and Hope

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and then his other book, Anglo American Establishment, both of

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which deal in significant sections with the raw Childs and

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their involvement in First and Second Boer War. So I

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think that when we understand that kind of big game

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player strategy that's going on there and how this you know,

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this family is.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jay is he is in a hotel. So I'm sorry,

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broke up a little bit there.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's just because I mentioned Rawchild in

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the Internet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, shut it down. Yeah yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: But I have to say that I don't know a

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whole lot of Like, Africa is one region that I

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don't know a lot about. I'm pretty good with Middle

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East and that kind of stuff, but I don't know

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a lot about the modern situation in Africa. I don't

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they're they're communist positions, they're anti white positions. But I

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the attempt really to replace certain people's if you if

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Speaker 3: Mean, it's it's kind of given the fact that Israel

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is constantly compared to South Africa, I wouldn't wonder if

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you couldn't do a little bit of jiu jitsu and

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demand that there be an Israel for the Boors. That

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seems entirely reasonable, And if certain groups like they're backed

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into a certain rhetorical corner, you might get them to

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sign on to that idea in a way that it's

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hard to back out on later. If I were in

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the Boors' position, that's exactly what I would be saying.

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Speaker 4: In Israel for the Boors. That's the solution to South Africa.

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Speaker 1: I think you're bang on right. That's the only solution

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that doesn't involve a lot of violence. But that might

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potentially not involve a lot of violence.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, ethnic cleansings are always going to involve

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some amount of violence. It's unfortunate. But if you had

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a leader with a very steady hand, I think you

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could do it with a minimal amount of disruption.

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Speaker 1: All Right, let's see what else we got here.

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Speaker 9: There is absolutely nothing beneficial that pardoning Chauvin would do

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for the Trump administration, for this country, for race relations,

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for anybody else. It is absolutely destructive. It makes no sense.

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And so for me when I first saw this, Generally,

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conversations that happen come from the ground up. Usually there's

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some sort of murmuring under and then it kind of

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like bubbles up and then it becomes a national conversation.

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comes from somebody with an enormous amount of influence. This

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is nothing that anybody was talking about or thinking about.

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So it really makes me question why is this conversation

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happening right now? It makes me question why did Ben

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Shapiro want to start this conversation right now? Who does

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this benefit? Doesn't benefit Trump, doesn't benefit America, doesn't benefit

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race relations, It doesn't benefit anything. And the last point

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I'll make on it is this, there are very few

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people that can actually really speak to in depth what

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was going on in that trial, how Derek Show, excuse me,

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how George Floyd actually died, etc.

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Speaker 4: Etc.

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Speaker 9: There's probably five people that have spent the bulk of

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their day on a podcast set every single day, like

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Ben Shapiro, like maybe two or three other people that

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can really talk to you in depth about this. So

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then they're positioning themselves to say, no, listen to me me.

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I'm the one who really knows about this. So what

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Trump's agenda is supposed to be derailed where we're at

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as a country right now is supposed to be derailed

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because these leftists and these Democrats are looking for a

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reason to have another race war. That is what they love.

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So why this conversation is happening right now, I have

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Speaker 4: For it at all. No, there are levels of this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I already covered this one on my solo stream,

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny to me because first of all, you've

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got this idea that the establishment, especially for the left,

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they had to create these civic saints. That's something we've

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talked about on my channel for a while, this idea

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that without Christianity, without the church as a vibrant part

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of American life, you get this sort of civic sainthood

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that creates figures kind of in the lineage of an

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MLK whatever, and then you get the dubious legends and

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stories about them, which then eventually come into question, and

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so they could be removed or demoted from sainthood when

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it's not true. But as this guy seems to be arguing,

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I'm not familiar with who this dude is, but it's like, well,

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it doesn't really matter if it's true or false that

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he's you know, a new civic saint for America, because

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it wouldn't be good for the nation as a whole

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right now at this time. But that's not justice, that's

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not you know, virtue, that's not objective truth versus falsehood.

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I mean, if the guy was absolutely a criminal, you know,

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drug addict character, and if Chauvin was innocent, then it

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needs to be he needs to be set free regardless

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of collective decisions of guilt. It's almost like it's relying

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still the notion that guilt is something that's determined collectively

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or pragmatically, and that's just not true.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, this is the first mention I think,

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do we know that Derek Chauvin didn't kill it George Wood?

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Speaker 1: Do we know that it was okay? So established yeah, yeah, yeah,

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so Rob Smith is that's the guy in the cliff.

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He was saying, oh, there's only like five people who

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watched the whole trial, and it's like, no, not really.

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All you really have to know about it is this.

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The autopsy showed he had a lethal amount of fentanel

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in his system. And more importantly, the autopsy doctor said

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that he would have ruled it an overdose if he

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hadn't seen the video. That's pretty much all you need

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to know as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds that would be exonerating in most circumstances.

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And there was like a lot of other stuff about

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the trial where Chauvin got railroaded, like they in the manual,

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that technique of putting the knee on the on the

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upper back like that, that was in his training manual.

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But they brought in on this like black police chief

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guy who just threw him under the bus and was

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like no, they we don't do that, and and they

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and they wouldn't let him even they said the manual

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was inadmissible if I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 1: So there was a there was a lot it was

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like absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like these trials are highly politicized, and then

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that damages the actual you know, potentiality of having justice

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in your situation because the jurors and everybody involved is

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now under the threat of the collective you know, mob

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turning upon them. And that's actually what I think the

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mainstream media is designed to do, is actually turned these situations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I mean that's an a whole nother

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reason to acquit him or pardon him because he couldn't

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get a fair trial, which I guaranteed him the constitution.

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But how do you have a fair trial when there's

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like a ten billion dollar riot over the case, you know.

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Speaker 2: Like media and trial by n g O.

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Speaker 1: Basically, Yeah, but you are right mentioned ja that Rob

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Smith there, he doesn't He's going through like the pros

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and cons and he never even addresses the question of

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like is this guy innocent? What is the thing?

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Speaker 2: He sound like everything was saying was like consideration. It's

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like perception and nothing to do with the actual objective fact.

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And you know, Virgie bis Sorr, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't think that I hate this.

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Speaker 3: I don't think black people really care about George Floyd

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at this stage. I think they cared about it in

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the moment when it was symbolic. But I don't think

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that this is like some kind of perennial totem such

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that if new, if they present this like it's new

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evidence that.

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Speaker 4: You know there's going to be erace riots or something

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like that.

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Speaker 3: I also people say that that this emergence as an

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issue all of a sudden was an attempt to get

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other issues out of the front line.

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Speaker 1: Right, because the reason they came up is because Ben

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Shapiro did a big thing and he put up a

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website called Pardon Chauvin or some Pardon Derek, whatever it was,

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and so he kind of kicked off the conversation in

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this most recent iteration. But why he did that, I

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would speculate and say that Daily Wires is losing popularity

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and Ben Shapiro's trying to throw some red meat to

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his audience, be like, no, look, I'm really right wing guys,

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I'm really look at me, I'm the controversial part in

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Chauvin kind of thing. I also think if I was

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gonna do armchair psychology on Rob Smith here, this might

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be a bit much or whatever. But I think like,

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as a black guy. It's hard to be unboid. I mean,

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it's as it's a racial issue, regardless of what if

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you're black or white. But he he's saying there's gonna

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be these race riots. And if that did have, I

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like you, Dave, I'm dubious that that would even happen.

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be more basically like racial tension, and like it would

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reflect poorly on black people basically. And so I think

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Rob Smith doesn't want to see that happen because they

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already have enough pr issues.

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Speaker 3: Race riots in this country only happen at times that

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are convenient for the Democrat Party, and the first year

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of a fairly popular Republican president is not a convenient

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time for race riots to happen in America.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 3: It is destabilizing for the Democrats. And if it was

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even possible for African Americans to organize it independently of

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sort of the mainstream Democrats approving of it, it would

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drive a wedgend between the two coalitions of the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they're recharging their batteries right now. So it's

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actually a good time to pardon him. All right, let's

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go on to the next one. Here. This clip does

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have Nick Fuentes in, so sorry if that's controversial for anyone,

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but it's not really about him. I just wanted an

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excuse to talk about this. Like Scott Presler, John said

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tweet that was going around.

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Speaker 10: Like ten issues that conservatives gave up on, right, so

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they kind of redefined conservatism.

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Speaker 4: One of them is this gay stuff.

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Speaker 10: Right, we've sort of embraced fully embraced the gayness. And

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you were fighting that with Rob Smith, right, you guys,

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the whole question was is how is anal sex of

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conservative value?

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Speaker 4: I mean, we did give up on this, right, What

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do you think about this?

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Speaker 10: I mean, are we really winning if we're talking about

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all these issues but this is what we're not talking about.

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Have you changed your opinion on this or what do

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you think about the fact that conservatism is gay?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well it always has been.

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Speaker 4: It always has been.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if you guys saw this viral tweet,

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but this was like Josh Sader, who was a guy

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who was like on The Bachelor and then he was

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pretending to be trans and he got a bunch of

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like followers and then now he's hooked up with this

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Scott Presler guy who is the uh what does he

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call himself, the Persistence or whatever, and he was doing

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all this like getting voters in Pennsylvania to vote for

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Trump and apparently did like a lot of good work there,

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but is also openly gay. And in this tweet they

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said something like I'm conservative, conservative and gay and there's

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nothing wrong with that or whatever, And it's like kind

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of putting people in an awkward position, right, But my really,

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my whole take on it is like, you know, you're

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doing some good work, great, but maybe keep that other

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part of your life off of the public space, like

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keep that to yourself.

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Speaker 3: The gay thing isn't important for conservatism because as far

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as I'm concerned, gay marriage killed any possibility that conservatism

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could even be a thing. Once it was possible for

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progressive to successfully redefine a core sacramental notion that was

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the basis of Western civilization and then subsequently punish people

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for violating that new definition, then there was officially nothing

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left to conserve in the West. And well, right wing

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thought certainly has something to say about all this thing.

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There can be no conservative gay marriage once you start

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allowing the redefinition of your core values, and for me,

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there's something more core than the sacraments. Then I don't

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know what to say. You're not conserving anything that I

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care about. I guess it's a little bit heartening now

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to say that, for once, the trends on approval of

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gay marriage are going on the opposite direction. Fewer people

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are approving of gay marriage than ever before. I don't

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know how much this can be solved through public opinion

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at a broad level, but I think people are starting

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to see through just the absolute fakenness of this entire thing.

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I remember when I was a progressive, I was really

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into like Andrew Sullivan, who was like, I am the

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gay I am the conservative gay guy for gay marriage,

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and it was it was just all thinke. It was

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transparently just an attempt to deconstruct traditional values or Christian

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values and then replace it with, you know, the values

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of the modern elite.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I have quite a bit to say on this,

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because we did some podcasts on this very topic some

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years back, where we covered the entire history of the

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hijacking of the right in America, which I would argue

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you could definitely point to gay marriage. You can go

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back even further to the libertarianizing of conservatism in America,

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and William F. Buckley played a key role in that

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by sort of coming into the National Review, which is

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We got multiple people fired for racism. The last of

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the conservative writers, Joe Soberin, was there and then he

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was out. Then the conservative mindset turned to this notion

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of well, what's conservatism. It's small government, it's let me

476
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,960
stack gold, you know, this kind of stuff. That's it,

477
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,279
and let me have a corporation. That's not what conservatism is.

478
00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:18,240
It can be divorced from morals and objective truth. And

479
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:21,920
like you pointed out, you can't have you know, notions

480
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,680
of even courts and law without the church. You can't

481
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,680
have marriage and family without the sacraments of you know,

482
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,440
the related to those things, like the sacrament of marriage.

483
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:35,240
So I mean, yeah, there's that element of it. The

484
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:38,359
subversion through I think it was actually a CIA operation

485
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:43,960
to subvert the conservative movement, turned it into a libertarian movement,

486
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,160
which would then open conservatism up to gay rights. But

487
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:53,839
ultimately conservatism itself was on a down trend once feminism

488
00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:56,319
itself even came to exist. In fact, we just did

489
00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:59,880
an interview with Tim Gordon today on the Alice Jones show.

490
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,039
Who We did It collabed on a documentary critiquing this

491
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,880
sort of con inc idea of conservatism and in regards

492
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,960
to even human biology and male female relations, and he

493
00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:14,759
argues that you could never have the current you know,

494
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:18,160
sort of t R A and Z agenda going had

495
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,039
you not had the successive wave of prior to that

496
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,680
Skittles gay marriage, prior to that, you know, the libertarianizing

497
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:29,559
of conservatism, and then prior to that first second third

498
00:27:29,559 --> 00:27:32,440
wave feminism. All those revolutions prepared the way for where

499
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,279
we are now with just completely empty, vacuous, meaningless conservatism.

500
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 3: Libertarianism is cope. That is what you need to know

501
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,319
about the conservative movement. Libertarianism is cope.

502
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,519
Speaker 1: His last video that was good.

503
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: It was adopted to disguise the obvious losses of the

504
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,440
country by the conservative movement and their inability to accomplish

505
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,599
anything else or present a positive vision.

506
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:02,599
Speaker 4: And I don't know, I mean conservativism.

507
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,279
Speaker 3: Has always done this that for the last one hundred years,

508
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:09,799
they've adopted the previous changes right up until the point

509
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:14,200
where they've kicked the pillars right out from under the

510
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:16,640
entire edifice. I mean, everyone's like, oh, how do we

511
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,440
get so quickly from gay marriage to the trans thing? Well,

512
00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:25,319
if you can redefine marriage, why can't you redefined woman?

513
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,519
Speaker 4: It's the same thing. It literally is the same thing.

514
00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:35,319
Speaker 3: And objects, like concepts, categories, forms are defined by their principal,

515
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,079
principal tellos or vocation. The principal tellos and vocation of

516
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,839
man and woman is marriage. So if once you destroy

517
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:48,359
the tellos of man and woman marriage, the next logical

518
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,960
step is to deconstruct the objects that it applies to.

519
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,599
So I don't know how people don't put this together.

520
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,319
Speaker 2: But the PEPs are for but JJ's not for you know, boo,

521
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,039
Let me.

522
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: Ask you guys this. So I agree about the marriage thing.

523
00:29:09,599 --> 00:29:11,359
I think that's a pretty easy one. But let me

524
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,640
ask you something a little bit more gray area. So

525
00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:20,720
you have these conservative pundits who are gay. That actually

526
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,279
that black guy Rob Smith from the last clip, he's gay,

527
00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:27,000
Andrew Sullivan, as you mentioned Scott Presler here.

528
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, every time I hear a conservative, I think that

529
00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:34,079
they're gay. Like that's somewhere I'm at now. Okay, So

530
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:36,160
another gay.

531
00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: What in your view would be what would you want

532
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,319
to see? Like do you think that if those guys

533
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,680
are effective in when it comes to like rallying voters

534
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,799
and stuff like that, that they should be embraced. Do

535
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:52,960
you think that they should be completely shut out and

536
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:58,240
disavowed publicly because of their lifestyle choices? What would you

537
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,480
guys want to see there?

538
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,359
Speaker 3: The thing that I don't like is the word I

539
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,119
am gay, Like it's an identity. As soon as sexuality

540
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:10,839
becomes an identity, it is over. Especially if an identity

541
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,559
can be a sexuality that is directly, you know, an

542
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:19,039
assault on Western norms. You know, people have always you know,

543
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:22,799
there's been always this problem with buggery in leaders for

544
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,839
a thousand years.

545
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 4: And I don't know, people can contest a lot.

546
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,759
Speaker 3: Of these things, but it's been a reality in the

547
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:30,720
leadership classes, and it's been tolerated to a certain extent.

548
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,559
But it wasn't until the twentieth century when people went

549
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,400
up and said, like, I am this thing, and this

550
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:42,839
thing is like my identity is defined by my enjoyment of,

551
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:49,000
you know, a certain type, a certain sexual position. This

552
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,160
is bizarre. It's a function of like Freudian and like

553
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,880
nineteenth century ideas of psychology that tries to essentialize sexuality

554
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:57,920
and inside identity.

555
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:03,039
Speaker 4: And the problem is, once you have.

556
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,039
Speaker 3: A a conservative person that happens to have a buggery

557
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:11,839
habit on the side, is something that like that linguistically

558
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:15,240
parses if not being a little bit problematic.

559
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: Uh, but but.

560
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,799
Speaker 3: Having a leader say I like my identity, like a

561
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,359
core part of my identity, like I am an American

562
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:26,119
and I am a gay man. That is now we're

563
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:32,319
openly saying that that this this behavior, this, this bad habit, this,

564
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:35,480
this proclivity is now a core part of your identity

565
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,640
and it has a political community attached to it. We

566
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,880
wouldn't do this or anything. We wouldn't do this for adultrey.

567
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:46,640
We wouldn't do this for extra like no one like Paul,

568
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:50,680
like Donald Trump, doesn't feel like I participated in extramarital sex.

569
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,880
Therefore I am a fornicating American.

570
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,079
Speaker 10: Like I.

571
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: That doesn't, it doesn't happen.

572
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,279
Speaker 3: I don't approve of Donald Trump's fornication, but I don't

573
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:04,319
have to acknowledge his identity as a foreignication American, right

574
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,759
Like that doesn't I never asked to do that.

575
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: I would back that up with the practical notion. We

576
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,359
just did a lecture on my channel through a book

577
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:20,000
on the history of sexpionage or sex espionage, and one

578
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,880
of the things that the Soviets were really good at

579
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,480
in the Cold War was profiling people in the West

580
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:30,680
with you know, key roles in military intelligence, government corporations, whatever,

581
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:34,599
who actually might have this vice. And the reason that

582
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:37,200
they look for those kinds of people is that not

583
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,440
just because they could be compromised and thus controlled, but

584
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:43,880
also because it almost in every case would suggest a

585
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,799
person with extreme narcissistic tendencies in their personnel, and that

586
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,400
was another further level of control and manipulation that could

587
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,119
be utilized by foreign governments. Now we're not in the

588
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,960
Cold War, but the principle still maintains that in a

589
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:03,960
leader or a representative, you have a higher standard of expectations.

590
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:06,680
We don't expect them necessarily to be saints. You know,

591
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,440
kings are not necessarily going to be saints. They can

592
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:12,640
be at times, but leaders need to have, you know,

593
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:14,440
some degree of virtue. And I think we've seen a

594
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,759
lot of disasters on the right in the last ten

595
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:24,119
twenty thirty years, whether neocon, paleocon, trad con whatever, so

596
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,839
many of these people are morally atrocious individuals who should

597
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,759
not be leaders. Even if they're effective, it still doesn't

598
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:35,960
pay off in the long run to have people, you know,

599
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,200
sort of sexually compromised in this way.

600
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:44,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem is is it's very difficult to like

601
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,079
convince the wider conservative body of you know, like whatever,

602
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:51,680
I even think about this problem. I remember Dave Rubin

603
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:57,000
announcing his surrogate children and all the big accounts being like, oh, congratulations,

604
00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,079
and I just feel like it's it's over.

605
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:02,279
Speaker 2: He's got Jordan Peters.

606
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:08,119
Speaker 3: Gays errogacy for me is just the ultimate. Do you

607
00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:10,360
notice how we don't even debate about that, Like there's

608
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,639
a huge debate over gay marriage, there was never a

609
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,559
debate over gays errogacy. And if you do, if you

610
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,159
scratch the surface of the surrogacy industry, and in particular

611
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:23,800
the gay sergacy industry, you will you will encounter all

612
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,440
sorts of horror stories that you can't even believe. And

613
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:31,480
we we never once debated this. I I can't every

614
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,360
time I see it. I just can't believe what I'm

615
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,760
saying and what people, especially what women will put up.

616
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:40,639
Speaker 4: With literal, literal handmaiden's tail, sex.

617
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,599
Speaker 3: Slavery, and if it, if it has it has the

618
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,079
right optics, you know, sign me.

619
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 4: Up for it. Apparently.

620
00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's go on to the

621
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,239
next thing here. Enough about that fun topic.

622
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:02,079
Speaker 12: Okay, So if you don't okay, so if it don't open,

623
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:04,679
if it don't open it too, then how the hell

624
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,159
are you going.

625
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 6: To pick up your medicine?

626
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,559
Speaker 4: I'm okay.

627
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: Can you get the fuck off my car?

628
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:15,519
Speaker 4: Thank you, sir?

629
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, sir.

630
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:23,039
Speaker 1: Do you want to keep saying sirt bitch?

631
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 10: Do you want to keep saying sirt bitcham?

632
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 4: Is that real?

633
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's America. That's American in a nutshell right there,

634
00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:38,480
a black woman and a big fat trans dude arguing

635
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:40,719
about who gets to be first in line to pick

636
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:46,679
up their medicine or whatever. Yeah, man, I don't know you.

637
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,519
We don't even have to. If you guys want, if

638
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:50,840
you guys want to talk about it, feel free. But

639
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,639
we just move on to the next one. I just

640
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:54,360
it's just like a funny clip.

641
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: As far as I want to have one of these interactions,

642
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,800
I don't. I haven't. I mean, I live in the

643
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,519
Bible Belt, so I don't see a whole lot of that.

644
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:02,800
But I feel like I'm missing out on like viral content,

645
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,440
you know what I mean.

646
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I can.

647
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,039
Speaker 3: Tell you I've had I've had the angry Black Women interaction.

648
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:16,679
I've had the AGPU trans interaction, but I've never had both.

649
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,679
Speaker 4: The one you know, I remember I.

650
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: Was in I was in Parksville, British Columbia, which is

651
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,400
this little town on Vancouver Island, and I was at

652
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,840
Domino's picking up a pizza I had ordered, and this

653
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:39,239
guy comes in fully trooned out, like not passing at all,

654
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,119
most obvious, you know, and he's got like an eight

655
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:46,679
year old boy with him, and I like, I didn't

656
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,360
interact at all, but I just was like, oh man,

657
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,199
this is like the most depressing thing I've ever seen

658
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,079
in real life. The kid was just dejected too, and

659
00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:00,679
I think I heard him call the guy dad. He's like, okay,

660
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,280
dad or whatever. I thought.

661
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,519
Speaker 3: Man, I mean, I don't know, I've seen this just

662
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,599
destroy multiple families at this stage. And you know that

663
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,599
if you ever interview any of the trans widows or whatever,

664
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,599
I don't know.

665
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 4: It's I really don't know what to make of it.

666
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,119
Speaker 3: I'd like to think that society is going to wake

667
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:23,639
up like from a bad dream.

668
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 4: But we had lots of destroyed lives there.

669
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: Does kind of feel like we're trending sort of back

670
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,079
to some kind of sanity, doesn't it doesn't it feel

671
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:35,639
like maybe the worst is over?

672
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,079
Speaker 4: Well, you're a.

673
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the thing the problem is is that

674
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,119
how you know, the way progressives backtrack is they forget

675
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:49,320
that they ever had the position to begin with. But

676
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:53,360
now we have like Harvard and John Hopkins and Boston

677
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,280
University and all these places, all these medical centers that

678
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,320
have gotten on board with this stuff. It's part of

679
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,960
public record now. It's very hard for them to back out.

680
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: It's a big industry too.

681
00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's profitable, although they will always pick.

682
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:11,039
Speaker 4: Power over profit.

683
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: M all right, Uh this one is uh well, we'll

684
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,840
file this one here under try not to cringe.

685
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 8: Wirl.

686
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:21,559
Speaker 10: You gon't girl.

687
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 13: No more sugar and spice.

688
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: Than everything nice.

689
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 14: It's a cheap thing, and.

690
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 15: It's all in me.

691
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,559
Speaker 16: I can be and if they.

692
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: Don't listen to me, and I Leggy's telling me out.

693
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:38,360
If you agree, now I can bring home the bacons.

694
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 14: Ride in the pan.

695
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 12: Never let you forget that, you know, man because I'm

696
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,960
a w oh and that's what I am doing.

697
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 14: All I can the thing that isn't mad and crazy upset.

698
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:51,199
It got a break bye neck just to get my

699
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,320
respect go to.

700
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 17: Work and getting paid less than a man when I'm

701
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:56,519
doing the same damn thing that he can.

702
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: This is this is how we app feel to the

703
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:03,039
kids and get them back in the in the pews

704
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,719
right and you.

705
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: Can you can hear from the echo just how empty

706
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:12,000
the church is. You can you can hear her voice

707
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:14,039
echo off all four walls.

708
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:18,119
Speaker 2: I've been doing some remixes of these types of things

709
00:39:18,199 --> 00:39:20,079
when they come around in my feed, and then I

710
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,519
sing along with them. Did you see the You may

711
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:27,920
have even played it on your show The Black and

712
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:34,280
Indigenous People. Yeah, so I'm gonna actually find this one

713
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,159
and sing along to it. But yeah, that's what I

714
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,960
do on my Instagram in my spare time.

715
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll send you the clip.

716
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:45,039
Speaker 3: What's gone on in the prosent mainline churches is in

717
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,000
my mind, to straight up real estate fraud. They have

718
00:39:48,119 --> 00:39:51,920
complete like the progressive branch of these of these churches

719
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:56,159
always wins. They take the building. The devout people go

720
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,920
off and have their mass inside of a trailer park.

721
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:04,079
And then you have these these churches with no members

722
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,039
in charge of like these these multi these these these

723
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:11,239
real estate properties that are worth millions and millions and

724
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,400
millions and millions, and then like the church closes down,

725
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,519
they sell them and everyone walks away with money. I

726
00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:20,519
can't believe that this isn't just sort of real estate fraud.

727
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Speaker 2: That's an interesting point. We cover that today. Actually a

728
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:26,159
little bit on the Fourth Hour with Tim we were

729
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,079
talking about both Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant churches too. Like

730
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:33,679
you can look at the history of really wealthy families

731
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:39,239
beginning to fund certain seminaries with certain professors as the

732
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,400
like they have to put this guy in as the

733
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:44,719
chair of the department or else they don't get the funding.

734
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,519
This guy ends up being like a super super super

735
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:49,280
lib person. This has been going on in the present

736
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,800
world since the twenties and thirties. Even the Protestant pastors

737
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,719
were writing about that back then, and then not too

738
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,679
long after that they started doing the same thing with

739
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:03,960
Orthodox seminaries through certain funding mechanisms that all came out,

740
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:06,599
by the way, the Roman Galley Church too, that all

741
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:09,719
came out with the USA I D stuff many of

742
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,159
those listed tens of millions of dollars given. True. Yeah,

743
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:18,280
liberal Lutheran churches exactly to push this kind of stuff.

744
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean this is this is the pattern

745
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,920
that all Christians have, with very few exceptions, is that

746
00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:28,760
our leadership is completely stuck and if it is not

747
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:33,400
heretically compromised like this church obviously is, it is still

748
00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:38,679
stuck with in a boomer way of understanding theology and

749
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,199
the problem of the modern world and the current culture wars,

750
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,840
and all the adherents of just kind of watching their

751
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,480
their leaders go crazy along these lines.

752
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you guys heard Steve Saylor wrote a couple

753
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:58,719
articles about how wokeism actually comes from Protestantism? Have you

754
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,039
guys heard that that? And do you have any thoughts

755
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:02,320
on that?

756
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: LPU, you are you are really tempting me to fulfill

757
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,760
my stereotype that was originally the feast itself of Mantes mollbug.

758
00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:15,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we have a There's an Orthodox writer

759
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:17,719
who wrote a book recently also back in His name

760
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,480
is G. M. Davis, and he wrote a book about

761
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:24,000
anti Christ and the theology of Antichrist. But there's a

762
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:28,239
great chapter in there about the idea of social justice

763
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,920
and activism originating in American Puritanism. So he argues that

764
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:35,639
the Puritan and this is not just the sort of

765
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:38,000
low level critique of like, well, oh, the work ethic

766
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:40,159
comes from the you know, Puritan. I'm aware of all that,

767
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,639
but this is actually going a little bit further and

768
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:45,320
saying that, like the notion of social justice and applying

769
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:50,360
you know, these these insane egalitarian principles, it originates with

770
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:53,000
like the Puritan idea, and then once you divest the

771
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,559
you know, when you de mythologize and divested of the

772
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,280
the supernatural, it just turns into this sort of wild wokeism.

773
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Speaker 4: Yea.

774
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 8: It the.

775
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,679
Speaker 3: Everything that we're saying with progressivism kind of comes out

776
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,480
of a lot of these early Protestant heresies like the

777
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:14,920
Levelers and the Quakers and the Shakers.

778
00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

779
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: Now, I mean they were moderated because they had the

780
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:23,159
spiritual dimension and they had to stick to the moral teachings.

781
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,280
But now it's like this one line of thought in

782
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:31,039
those specific branches of Christianity became.

783
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: Who were some of the first to say that women

784
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,559
had the absolute equality when it came to being overseers,

785
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,840
elders and preachers, so radical Reformation. You're absolutely right, just

786
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,800
in the notion of women having that role in the church.

787
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,480
There was no other church, even the Classical Reformation guys Luther,

788
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:50,920
Calvin's Wingley, they would have never thought that women should

789
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,039
be ministers. But yeah, the Radical Reformers did.

790
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 4: Think that, some of them.

791
00:43:57,599 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: I always thought it was the Jews.

792
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:05,199
Speaker 2: But well, the Reformation was influenced by a lot of

793
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,880
you know, some of some Judaic ideas.

794
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Speaker 4: Right well, well, don't read that one book by Martin

795
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,000
Luther though.

796
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 18: Right right, all the information that's getting disclosed supposedly this administration,

797
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,400
what do you have the least faith that we're going

798
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:24,960
to come to.

799
00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:27,639
Speaker 4: And I think it's because of Israel.

800
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,599
Speaker 19: I think that because I think I mean, when you

801
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:33,880
really dig into Epstein, his entire network was Israel. It

802
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,920
was clearly he was like Ahu Barack was the ex

803
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,639
Prime Minister and the ex head of Israeli intelligence. Leslie

804
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:41,159
Wexner was one of the most powerful pro Israeli philanthropists.

805
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:43,679
The whole organization was Israel. So I'm not saying it

806
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,599
was all of Israel.

807
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,159
Speaker 4: There's all an intelligence gathering and and.

808
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 19: It was targeting Americans. It was targeting American officials and

809
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,280
the American presidence.

810
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:59,079
Speaker 1: So a lot of kerfuffle kicked up over this when

811
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:04,039
a lot of people pretty mad at Joe Rogan, anti Semitism,

812
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:09,000
anti Semitic conspiracy theories, allegations being thrown around. Jay, you

813
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:11,440
must know you must know a lot about Epstein. You're

814
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,760
saying you're into the Middle East stuff. What are your

815
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,360
thoughts on I guess, I guess the release, the release

816
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,199
of the documents. What do you think about that whole kerfuffle?

817
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: Well, the release is a whole other topic, because, like

818
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,599
you're saying, like you know, if Ian is essentially relying

819
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:31,880
on Whitney Webb's books, which I've read. We have Whitney

820
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,599
and I have the same publisher, so I got those

821
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,639
books as soon as they were out, and you know,

822
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,480
Part two is the Epstein book. It's really good. Most

823
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:43,199
of what Ian's talking about there is from that Part two.

824
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:47,320
And I'm just scrolling back because I was after all

825
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,039
this stuff with Ian. I've reposted all my fourth hours

826
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:54,000
of Alex Jones covering the Epstein stuff. And to back

827
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:58,639
up the overall thesis, there is the former head of

828
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:03,639
not just the Connections that he's making with the Prime

829
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:06,920
Minister where they have Barack. But former Masaud agent Arid

830
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:12,119
Ben Manasee has gone on multiple interviews admitting that, of

831
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:16,360
course Epstein worked for Israel. It just like all over Twitter.

832
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,239
You can find this interview everywhere. It's on my wall

833
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,920
if you want to find it. So, I mean, it

834
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,079
shouldn't even be surprising. Of course, he wasn't just doing

835
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:26,360
it for Israel. He was also kind of at times

836
00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:30,159
doing stuff for the CIA, probably FBI as well. He

837
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:33,800
had multiple passports according to like chapter one or two

838
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,679
of Whitney's book. So I think all that's pretty obvious.

839
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,400
But I do agree that it's unlikely that we'll get

840
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,599
the full picture because once BONDI got the truckload of

841
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:51,519
the documents, it's now being redacted. Who knows how extensive

842
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:56,840
that reaction might be. But given Trump's alignments in terms

843
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,280
of the Middle East, Trump seems to rely quite a

844
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:05,000
bit on probably what Israel is saying and doing in

845
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:08,920
regard to Iran. I don't think Trump is going to

846
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:13,000
want to do things that might upset Israel given his

847
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:14,519
recent statements about Iran.

848
00:47:16,639 --> 00:47:18,679
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I keep on expecting them to bite the

849
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,320
bullet on this Epstein thing. I mean, because this is

850
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,480
just what intelligent agencies do and have done for the

851
00:47:25,559 --> 00:47:30,320
last hundred years. They create honey pots, they get blackmail information,

852
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,960
they use that to try to gain leverage on assets.

853
00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:38,719
I mean, this is a very standard book, and we

854
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,480
almost have admissions that this is what was going on.

855
00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:45,280
I haven't heard a single explanation that has not been

856
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,639
some form of this.

857
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is Times of Israel. This is

858
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,320
not Daily Stormer. This is Times of Israel saying right,

859
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,000
Ad Barrock met multiple times with.

860
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,159
Speaker 3: I guess I can't buy bullet on this because then

861
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,400
that would immediately frame the question of what is Israel's

862
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,840
role in influencing our deep state, which is probably very extensive.

863
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the climate is not good for the public

864
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:20,480
opinion on his right now. Right, that's it's like about

865
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,719
as bad as it's ever been in our lifetimes. So

866
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,679
I can't imagine they would come out right now and

867
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,159
be like, oh, by the way, they were trafficking miners,

868
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:34,000
all right, what else? What else do we got here? Oh?

869
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 19: Yeah, and it was targeting Americans.

870
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,519
Speaker 1: It was a little hunter.

871
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,519
Speaker 17: Pres How strong does your faith have to be to

872
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,519
pray for somebody and they can actually fucking get better.

873
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,039
Speaker 4: Christianity is a huge scam.

874
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 17: Because you have to believe that you're a piece of shit,

875
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,119
fuck up, sinner, so disgusting and wretched you can never

876
00:48:57,199 --> 00:48:59,039
even be in the presence of God. That's the first

877
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:01,280
thing you have to believe. You then accept that only

878
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,079
God can save you, and I can only be saved

879
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:06,079
through God, and boom, within two or three steps, you

880
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:09,760
have a total reliance. You have stripped people of their

881
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,480
own self worth, their own self confidence. It's gone, and

882
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:16,440
now all they have is God to rely on. It's

883
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:19,159
the perfect perfect scam.

884
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:26,519
Speaker 3: Hunter a There's so again, there's so many angles. A

885
00:49:26,599 --> 00:49:29,679
man stripped of his confidence and self reliance, but not

886
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,599
belief in God.

887
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:33,199
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you know it?

888
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,639
Speaker 3: This is one thing that I've been kind of realizing,

889
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,719
especially since the Sam Cedar debate. If anyone caught it,

890
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,920
it's kind of amazing, how I mean, especially with Hunter Avalan.

891
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:51,639
Speaker 4: How can people get through like their whole career as.

892
00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: Leftist debate bros and influencers and not be aware of

893
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,760
just like very common high school college C. S. Lewis

894
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,199
t or apologetic responses to this, They talked like I

895
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,599
taught Sunday school for two years and like, my kids

896
00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:11,920
could answer that, and they weren't even particularly devout.

897
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 4: Like these are just the amount of the lack.

898
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 3: Of knowledge on the part of progressives who put themselves

899
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,320
forward as people who can confront conservative ideas.

900
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:24,599
Speaker 4: It's always astounding a.

901
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:28,199
Speaker 2: Lot of times too. This mindset of a person who

902
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,840
used to be conservative. I think he was used to

903
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,239
be like a right wing guy before he went left.

904
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,639
Sounds like he has like a Protestant mindset in terms

905
00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:39,679
of like maybe even a Calvinistic or Lutheran type attitude

906
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,079
of I'm complete garbage, total depravity, filth, all this kind

907
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:48,000
of stuff, which is not exactly the attitude that we

908
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:50,320
have in terms of the fall. Yeah, we have a

909
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,159
tendency towards the passions toward advice, we are not totally

910
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,159
depraved and complete filths. So a lot of that was

911
00:50:56,159 --> 00:51:00,159
a really extreme sort of Protestant rhetoric there, And I

912
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:04,800
think Protestantism and Evangelicalism have actually been responsible for producing

913
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,880
not just the CW woke stuff in terms of a

914
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,320
long time term influence, but this as kind of an

915
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,639
atheism factory which produces people like Hunter Avalone and then

916
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:18,079
the second part about man not having dignity and self

917
00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:22,039
confidence in the Christian paradigm, that's pretty laughable given the

918
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,960
fact that in the atheist paradigm there's no such thing

919
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:28,960
as dignity and self worth other than some relative subjective idea,

920
00:51:29,559 --> 00:51:32,880
because we're all just you know, floating bits of bags

921
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,159
of molecules and meat and a meaningless nihilistic cosmos. So

922
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:40,280
there's no value there. And to just say, well, but

923
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,800
I have value in myself and worship myself. Yeah, but

924
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,480
that's also finite, relative subjective, and once you die, you

925
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:51,000
go into the great nothing, so it's really meaningless.

926
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,199
Speaker 3: Can we take a moment to appreciate that this person

927
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,280
was converted by Vosh?

928
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 4: I can't quite get over that as reality, you.

929
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 3: Know, we we can talk about the flaws of John

930
00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:09,079
Kelvin till the cows come home, but I don't think

931
00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:11,239
we need to. I don't think John Calvin could have

932
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,199
been refuted by Vosh. And that's where really hunter.

933
00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:20,519
Speaker 1: I mean, if Fosh doesn't like elicit a visceral disgust

934
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:24,199
response in you, that's like a basic litmus test right there.

935
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,840
If you're not immediately just kind of like I think

936
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,679
you failed. Basically something something went wrong there.

937
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: Wash and Destiny come out of the same hell mouth.

938
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,079
I think they need to go back into the hell mouth.

939
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just say, what are he was saying about?

940
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,400
You know, I'm not worthy to be in the presence

941
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,360
of God or whatever. When I hear that, I think, well, yeah,

942
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,239
that's because God is like his glory is way beyond it,

943
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,880
Like it's so massive that that we can't. I couldn't

944
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,360
be in his presence as as a human, like I

945
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,599
would just melt or whatever. That is like a bad thing.

946
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,039
I see it as like, that's because God is so awesome.

947
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 19: You know.

948
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 3: That's like the easiest thing to believe about Christianity. I

949
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,400
find I find the redemption hard to believe, but I

950
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:15,039
find the complete depravity of humanity incredibly easy to believe. Well,

951
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:18,079
maybe I shouldn't say complete to pravity. That does sound calvinistic,

952
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,920
but I mean, you know that the fact that you

953
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,599
cannot change that either wretchedness of human I am not.

954
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 4: I know that I'm gonna step.

955
00:53:26,199 --> 00:53:29,199
Speaker 3: On a theology land mine by using the wrong word

956
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,920
for this, But like the the concept of original sin

957
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,599
and man's inadequacy in the face of God is just

958
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,480
so intuitively obvious to me. What's not intuitively obvious is

959
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,639
christ redemption, which is, you know, you have to look

960
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,960
into that to even believe it's possible, and you know

961
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:50,519
even then it's hard to believe.

962
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:59,039
Speaker 2: All right, Well, curiosity, did did you mentioned that Valsh

963
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:03,480
converted him? Did Hunter Avalon have a religious affiliation before

964
00:54:03,559 --> 00:54:04,159
going lib?

965
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,119
Speaker 4: I believe? Oh yeah, come from it.

966
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was evangelical christ It was his wife had

967
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,679
to be evangelical. Yeah, his wife was too right. I

968
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,519
think they're divorced now, right or something?

969
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? She Well we don't have to get it all that,

970
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,480
but it was it was lurid.

971
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 4: I've heard rumors. I've heard rumors.

972
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:26,159
Speaker 1: All right, let's see what else we got here.

973
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: Will America is still be America?

974
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,199
Speaker 4: If it's nine Canadians ninety he's he's.

975
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 20: Gonna I will answer the question, this America will cease

976
00:54:40,039 --> 00:54:43,400
to be America? It does not have a Christian fundotion?

977
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:45,960
That that is how I landed.

978
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 4: So it's it's that is a Indian Christian?

979
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: Is that America? Like it's Christian?

980
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 14: Now?

981
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: So the audio is kind of bad there, but maybe

982
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,119
you guys already saw that one over. But basically he says,

983
00:54:57,199 --> 00:55:00,280
will it still be America if it's Christian but like

984
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,880
ninety Indians or ninety percent Chinese, And Charlie Kirk says, yes,

985
00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:07,400
it's basically what happened there.

986
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and actually no, actually.

987
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: And part of the reason that he thinks that, of course,

988
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:23,199
is that it's unfortunate. But you know, we've been critiquing

989
00:55:23,199 --> 00:55:26,519
on my channel, not just libertarianism, but the Enlightenment ethos

990
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:27,719
for a long time.

991
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 4: And along with that.

992
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 2: Enlightenment ethos is the premier Enlightenment nation, America, and some

993
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,880
of the flaws in the founding documents and ideology of America.

994
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,119
I'm not totally opposed to my country. I love it

995
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,000
as far as I can, but I do think that

996
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:47,280
it's kind of attention in the founding ideas of the

997
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:52,440
American documents, particularly the notions of you know, equality, this

998
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:55,840
kind of stuff, the Lockeyan elements in terms of Jefferson

999
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,840
and all that, it's just not true. And so America

1000
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,280
was always kind of going to either go with its

1001
00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:07,440
Enlightenment rationalist, you know, atheist road, or it was going

1002
00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:11,400
to go in a more Christian route, which would entail

1003
00:56:11,559 --> 00:56:15,519
then you know, in my view Christian nationalism, Christian society.

1004
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:19,000
You know, the Byzantine model is the double headed eagle

1005
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:21,679
of church and state working together with the same body.

1006
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,039
That would be the Christian idea, not the idea of

1007
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,599
you know this, this idea that a nation state is

1008
00:56:28,639 --> 00:56:33,000
purely propositional, it has no association with the actual stock

1009
00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:35,960
of the people there. That to me is preposterous. But

1010
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,480
Charlie Kirk has to say that if he's going to

1011
00:56:38,519 --> 00:56:40,960
try to defend the presuppositions of Americanism.

1012
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:45,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is I feel like I've had

1013
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:49,280
this very debate with Joel Berry. I mean, I really

1014
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,719
wish we could focus on converting India to Christianity rather

1015
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,599
than converting America to the Indian and then, you know,

1016
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,920
trying to get them to be Christianism kind of constantly

1017
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,360
prize just because Christianity is true and the most fundamental

1018
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:09,639
foundation for a society's religion is not mean that all

1019
00:57:10,199 --> 00:57:14,239
peoples around the world are identical, right, but people are

1020
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:19,199
not ethnically interchangeable. No one before the twentieth century ever

1021
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,800
thought they were. Christianity, never asserted they were. That The

1022
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,559
famous quote that everyone likes quoting about you know, from

1023
00:57:26,599 --> 00:57:30,159
Saint Paul. It there'll be neither June nor Greek is

1024
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,599
is for some kingdom of it also has there will

1025
00:57:33,639 --> 00:57:37,079
be no neither a Man nor Wo. So it either

1026
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:43,639
it's not designed to be some kind of idea that

1027
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,199
every category is melted down into every other category and

1028
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,840
you know, to the extent that it existed as reality,

1029
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,639
it's supposed to be something that's only available, you know,

1030
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,599
post the Beatific vision or something like that. So I mean,

1031
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,320
I don't know, and you can you can walk people

1032
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,360
through this, they'll they'll never internalize it, not because anything

1033
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,639
the Christianity says, but because they had this programming that

1034
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,239
we can't acknowledge that different peoples, even if they have

1035
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,239
separate equal access to God, do not behave or have

1036
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,199
identical qualities to them.

1037
00:58:22,639 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: I would add too, I don't know if you guys

1038
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,159
saw the first episode of the Sam Hide show that

1039
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:31,440
that went Vira Old Deer them All. I contributed a

1040
00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:35,360
significant part to the Deer Elon and that dealt quite

1041
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,239
a bit with this question of interchangeable cogs and you know,

1042
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,559
Indian people groups. So that also, I think is a

1043
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:46,400
good answer to that question that was posed to Charlie Kirk,

1044
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:48,199
but as.

1045
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:53,039
Speaker 1: A shame, Elon never responded, never acknowledge the video. I hope,

1046
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:57,559
I hope he at least watched it. Just to give

1047
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:01,880
you guys a little context here, this was a twenty

1048
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:07,400
twenty movie or TV show that they were putting together

1049
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:12,840
and they ended up abandoning the project. But this like

1050
00:59:13,039 --> 00:59:17,360
trailer just leaked this past week and it's for the

1051
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,880
Powerpuff Girls, which is a property I've heard of but

1052
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,559
I'm not really familiar with. But I think it's like,

1053
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,320
to me, it's interesting, how like like twenty twenty being

1054
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:33,559
peak wokeness and I watched this and I kind of think, like, yeah,

1055
00:59:33,639 --> 00:59:35,599
we I feel like we've come a bit of a

1056
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:38,599
way since then, since then, but I don't know, maybe

1057
00:59:38,639 --> 00:59:41,760
I'm too optimistic. But also the other thing this makes

1058
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,159
me think when I see her the like the girls

1059
00:59:44,199 --> 00:59:46,360
like puking because you got drunk or whatever, and it's

1060
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,280
this kind of like millennial vulgarity thing, you know what

1061
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:50,679
I mean.

1062
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,039
Speaker 2: Like, well, one thing that's weird about this is back

1063
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:59,679
in the two thousands, when the cartoon version of powder

1064
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:02,800
Puff Girls or Powerpuff whatever it is, like their villain

1065
01:00:03,039 --> 01:00:07,000
was actually like a hermaphroditic t R and Z villain.

1066
01:00:08,119 --> 01:00:12,280
But now now the Powerpuff Girls are like, I'm not

1067
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,320
going to wear something if it's you know, gender heteronormative.

1068
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:22,039
Speaker 3: So definitely that phrase feels very twenty twenty. Yeah, that

1069
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,119
it would be unusual to see something like that now

1070
01:00:25,239 --> 01:00:26,239
on a new TV show.

1071
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 4: It kind of feels old.

1072
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:31,599
Speaker 9: Joey's life.

1073
01:00:34,039 --> 01:00:38,119
Speaker 2: So all of these two thousands era things, like, for example,

1074
01:00:38,159 --> 01:00:40,639
back in the two thousands, I don't think anybody thought of,

1075
01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:43,639
you know, SpongeBob as that he was supposed to be gay,

1076
01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:47,960
and then retroactively, oh no, it turns out, you know,

1077
01:00:48,039 --> 01:00:50,199
SpongeBob and Patrick were supposed to be gay, and then

1078
01:00:50,639 --> 01:00:52,880
you know Harry Potter, Oh it turns out Dumbledore was

1079
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,199
gay all along. That's the magic trick, was double door

1080
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,480
is gay all along? You got tricks. That was the

1081
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:03,480
true actively taking all these pop culture things and just saying, oh,

1082
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:05,280
everybody in the show was gay and you never you

1083
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:05,920
just never got it.

1084
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:09,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the That was the first one.

1085
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:14,719
Speaker 3: The first one I remember a retroactive canonical homosexuality was

1086
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,320
Dumbledore from JK.

1087
01:01:16,719 --> 01:01:21,039
Speaker 4: Rowling And boy did GK pay for that one?

1088
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:24,119
Speaker 18: Uh?

1089
01:01:25,079 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: I was just thinking. I was watching that. I was saying, well,

1090
01:01:27,039 --> 01:01:29,880
what you said at the start, Dave, about how you

1091
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,320
and your wife would watch you can't stop progress to

1092
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,400
see how long you could last. And I was I

1093
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,360
was like, is this clip going to be over soon?

1094
01:01:36,519 --> 01:01:38,119
Like this is killing you know.

1095
01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:40,119
Speaker 4: They hit all the cliches.

1096
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot about women.

1097
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 8: I think I learned exactly how the fall of man

1098
01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:46,639
occurred in the Garden of Eden.

1099
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:48,679
Speaker 4: Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, and

1100
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:49,760
Adam said, one day.

1101
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 10: Wow, here we are one with nature, one with God,

1102
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,920
will never age, will never die, and all our dreams

1103
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,199
come true the instant.

1104
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:56,519
Speaker 1: That we have them.

1105
01:01:57,079 --> 01:02:09,239
Speaker 4: And he said, yeah, it's just not enough. That's not fun.

1106
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 6: I was just waiting for more.

1107
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: No, that was kind of his point.

1108
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 4: Well that was a good one.

1109
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:28,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. She walked right into that.

1110
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,639
Speaker 15: Forty million dollars to improve the social and economic conclusion

1111
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,079
of sedentary migrants.

1112
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: Nobody knows what that is.

1113
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 4: Eight million dollars to.

1114
01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 15: Promote lgbt q I plus in the African nation of Lesuto,

1115
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:54,079
which nobody has ever heard of.

1116
01:02:56,719 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 4: That's disappointing as trumpet next to Wadas.

1117
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,559
Speaker 1: As disappointing as Trump can be. There's moments like this

1118
01:03:05,719 --> 01:03:08,480
where I just love the guy. You know, he's just

1119
01:03:08,639 --> 01:03:14,199
so funny. It's comedic. Timing is the African nation of

1120
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,320
the Soto, which no one's ever.

1121
01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 4: Heard of, But the guy's got to stand appertaine for sure.

1122
01:03:21,719 --> 01:03:24,639
Speaker 1: Did you guys have any hot takes on the State

1123
01:03:24,719 --> 01:03:26,880
of the Union thing or not so much?

1124
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,599
Speaker 4: I didn't watch it, did you guys?

1125
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: I watched it.

1126
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: I just watched the highlights.

1127
01:03:31,679 --> 01:03:34,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. We ended up for some reason

1128
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:38,760
why we don't usually watch congressional c SPAN type stuff.

1129
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,440
For some reason, we ended up watching the whole thing,

1130
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,320
and it was it was pretty entertaining, you know, in

1131
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,119
parts like that. But yeah, I was I was actually

1132
01:03:47,159 --> 01:03:49,400
hoping for more. Everybody was like, it was so abaz,

1133
01:03:49,639 --> 01:03:51,519
it was so abaze. I was kind of one a

1134
01:03:51,559 --> 01:03:52,039
little more.

1135
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 16: But we came to a country founded people we deemed

1136
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,639
inferior and stole their land right out from under them,

1137
01:04:00,679 --> 01:04:03,159
And since then we have imported different races we deem

1138
01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:05,360
inferior to do our dirty work for us, and when

1139
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,119
that work is done, we lament their presence in our

1140
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:12,039
country as an assault on our values. Have you spent

1141
01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:15,719
much time among the Chinese missus blake more than you

1142
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:16,280
had wager.

1143
01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:20,159
Speaker 4: You'll have to forgive my wife's senator. She's never one

1144
01:04:20,239 --> 01:04:21,880
to pass up a heated debate.

1145
01:04:23,679 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 2: I guess you lost her vote, Senator if she had one.

1146
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did that little at it. This is a

1147
01:04:37,519 --> 01:04:40,840
show called Warrior that was on Netflix that I decided

1148
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,679
to throw on while I was working on some stuff.

1149
01:04:44,159 --> 01:04:48,280
And it's like it's marketed as like a kung fu show, right,

1150
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:51,119
but it's like it's like kung fu and like in

1151
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,119
America and like the you know.

1152
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 14: The.

1153
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,159
Speaker 4: I guess that the white girl boss becomes a kung

1154
01:04:57,199 --> 01:04:57,760
Fu master.

1155
01:04:58,599 --> 01:05:01,719
Speaker 1: I didn't get that far. It's there's so much feminism

1156
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:06,960
and gratuitous sex and race mixing. I just was like, man,

1157
01:05:07,079 --> 01:05:09,719
this is this isn't what I thought I was getting.

1158
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,599
I just wanted to see some guys get punched in

1159
01:05:11,679 --> 01:05:12,119
the face.

1160
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 2: You know, my wife and I we can't even hardly

1161
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,719
watch these kinds of shows because, I mean, the new shows,

1162
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,000
because they're all just like I mean, it's just it's

1163
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:25,840
all propaganda. And my third book, I actually waited too

1164
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,519
long to cover feminism in Hollywood. I mentioned a little

1165
01:05:28,519 --> 01:05:30,599
bit in the second book. But this third book, I

1166
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:32,440
had a whole I've got a whole, like thirty forty

1167
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:38,119
page chapter on the goddess you know in Hollywood and

1168
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,320
how the dark gnostic goddess is actually what I totally

1169
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,880
how this archetype is just everywhere of not just the

1170
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,400
girl Boss, but sort of like even further on, like

1171
01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:51,679
the the only way for man to achieve salvation it's

1172
01:05:51,719 --> 01:05:53,800
going to be through some sort of female, you know,

1173
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,960
savior figure that replaces the masculine, patriarchal Christ figure. So

1174
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:03,400
it's just, yeah, it's on rible, really, I guess.

1175
01:06:04,519 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 3: And the writing is so flat. I mean it doesn't

1176
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:10,039
it doesn't, it's not shocking anymore. Just everything just kind

1177
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:11,159
of feels like these.

1178
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:18,199
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, it's like very even.

1179
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 3: So you know now by this time, you know, I

1180
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,760
don't know, I'm not really big TV person, but I

1181
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,360
have looked at a few shows and the wokeness has

1182
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,480
definitely been turned down, but you can still tell that

1183
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,239
there is something about the writing where you just know

1184
01:06:33,679 --> 01:06:35,199
it's very very female.

1185
01:06:35,639 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 4: It's very very coloring within the lines. The edge does

1186
01:06:38,639 --> 01:06:40,480
the shows don't really have an edge to them.

1187
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:44,159
Speaker 3: It feels kind of like it feels like you're watching

1188
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,880
somebody's like woke Dungeons and Dragons game, or like live

1189
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,599
action role playing game, or like it's like the theater

1190
01:06:50,719 --> 01:06:54,079
kids putting on a skit in high school. There there's

1191
01:06:54,119 --> 01:06:57,039
no inspiration, there's no reason why it needs to exist.

1192
01:06:57,679 --> 01:06:59,559
It just it just it's there to be kind of

1193
01:06:59,719 --> 01:07:03,360
like to go through the motions and deliver some kind

1194
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,320
of like very very formulaic cathursas.

1195
01:07:12,039 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 14: But he's like, hey, I want to question the World

1196
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:19,079
War two narrative. And this is when I was like, oh,

1197
01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:22,119
this is it. This is the hook that he's using.

1198
01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:23,440
Let's play the clip.

1199
01:07:23,639 --> 01:07:25,119
Speaker 1: So they used world War Two.

1200
01:07:25,679 --> 01:07:26,719
Speaker 4: Let me ask you guys a question.

1201
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 13: If they used World War Two to subvert white nationalism

1202
01:07:31,519 --> 01:07:35,599
to the point of extinction, wouldn't it be truly treason

1203
01:07:35,719 --> 01:07:38,159
us if the story of World War Two wasn't even true.

1204
01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 14: Andrew Tate has the balls to say, Hey, we need

1205
01:07:45,079 --> 01:07:47,079
to question World War Two in the narrative that we

1206
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:55,199
bought that nationalism is bad because Germany was nationalists in

1207
01:07:55,719 --> 01:07:56,880
before World War Two.

1208
01:08:00,199 --> 01:08:02,599
Speaker 1: So this is kind of part of the Like, there

1209
01:08:02,679 --> 01:08:06,400
was a series of podcasts that all happened in about

1210
01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:08,559
like a twenty four to thirty six hour period where

1211
01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:12,400
you had Ian Carroll on Joe Rogan, you had Andrew

1212
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,760
Tate go and going on a bunch of shows and

1213
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,560
saying stuff like that. I think he went on the

1214
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,479
Full Send podcast and he said, you know, America doesn't

1215
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,920
have free speech because the one thing you're not allowed

1216
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,920
to talk about is Jewish power. Cannice Owens talked to

1217
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,159
Theo Vaughn. They brought up Jews, and so a lot

1218
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:31,479
of people were like, Oh, what's going on. It's all

1219
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:37,319
this mainstream cookery and anti Semitism. Now Darryl Cooper's going

1220
01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:39,960
on Joe Rogan, which a lot of people are complaining

1221
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:44,560
about that on Twitter as well. So I guess I

1222
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,159
wanted to hear your thoughts on more more so than

1223
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:51,840
on the specific clip on just like this general trend

1224
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,720
of where you guys think the sort of public discourse

1225
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,279
is headed with these big podcasts.

1226
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I don't know.

1227
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 3: I guess I'm a little bit surprised that I talked

1228
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,880
to Jewish cheople. They don't seem to be aware of

1229
01:09:10,039 --> 01:09:11,960
just how much they've lost in the last two years,

1230
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:18,399
Like they've completely lost control of the men'sdream narrative, and

1231
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,760
this is going to eventually come back and really hurt them,

1232
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,199
and they're they're doing none of the right moves right

1233
01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:28,800
now to try to regain it and to try to

1234
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:33,159
win win favor back for for and then they need

1235
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:38,199
they need that, they need allies. As for where this

1236
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:40,039
is all going to lead, the problem is is that

1237
01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:45,319
there's no you know, power is orchestrated through all leads

1238
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:49,560
and through power coalitions, and there's there's there's not really

1239
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,800
going to be any like political movement on this front

1240
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:56,399
because all all political movements in this country are are

1241
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:01,359
essentially have at least part of very powerful Jewish contingent.

1242
01:10:05,039 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 2: I would say that it's it's interesting because I knew

1243
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,560
about these Middle Eastern issues back in two thousand and

1244
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,079
seven eight. That was a very difficult time to talk

1245
01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:18,960
about any of these things. I tried to blog about

1246
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,680
that stuff back at the time, got a lot of

1247
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,520
a lot of heat, a lot of threats back then.

1248
01:10:25,399 --> 01:10:28,039
I got the first year long ban on Facebook for

1249
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:31,319
talking about some of these topics in twenty fourteen fifteen.

1250
01:10:33,119 --> 01:10:37,039
So I've kind of dealt with that firsthand in the

1251
01:10:37,159 --> 01:10:39,680
sense of like kind of pioneering. And I'm not calling

1252
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,079
myself like I'm a parioneer, but I mean, I know

1253
01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:45,760
the shift because now easier. Now, yeah, it's easier to

1254
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,880
talk about just even basic geopolitical stuff, right Like you

1255
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,800
can say exactly what Aribin Minashi, you know, former Massad

1256
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,800
guy says, and you're called, you know, an evil right

1257
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:01,479
wing tiny mustache man obsessor. But I have criticisms of

1258
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:04,800
you know, tiny mustache man philosophy. I've never been into

1259
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,199
that philosophy. I've read it, I've studied it. I don't

1260
01:11:08,239 --> 01:11:11,720
think that it's the most Christian philosophy. So my concern

1261
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,680
is that even though the tide, the tides have changed,

1262
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,199
the floodgates have been opened, people are kind of discussing

1263
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:21,279
all these topics that you couldn't talk about in two

1264
01:11:21,319 --> 01:11:24,800
thousand and seven, eight, nine, ten. My concern is that

1265
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,359
they're going to try to foist everyone into some extreme

1266
01:11:29,039 --> 01:11:32,520
type of position the other way, which might be controlled

1267
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,760
opposition in some way, so that they might want to

1268
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,840
have some fake right wingers. I don't think I've had

1269
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,560
a lot of success with previous fake right wing leaders

1270
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,920
in groups like Patriot Front things or whatever. I'm just

1271
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,720
giving examples, you know, fed run types of things, but

1272
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,239
they might try that. And one angle I think they're

1273
01:11:51,239 --> 01:11:54,159
trying to do is the Islam push, And I would

1274
01:11:54,199 --> 01:11:55,880
say that, you know, number one red flag for me

1275
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,760
with Andrew Tate is trying to tie his version of

1276
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,279
right wing into Islam and then pushing that in America,

1277
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,079
which I think is just bad news because.

1278
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,159
Speaker 3: Well, you think they're going to push Islam in America

1279
01:12:08,399 --> 01:12:11,520
as a that is a right wing thing.

1280
01:12:12,199 --> 01:12:14,520
Speaker 2: Oh, they already are. In fact, they're tying it too.

1281
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 4: Well.

1282
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,359
Speaker 2: I know it's already happening on in the vocal twitter sphere.

1283
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,880
It's being tied to the push for Islam. Even had

1284
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,800
some of the right wing traditional Catholic guys last year

1285
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:33,840
with sneak O with that whole crew, hit Job, and

1286
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,520
those guys are all bad news because if I recall,

1287
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,039
I think Andrew Tate went had a dinner with like

1288
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:43,119
the Saudi royals and then right after that he comes

1289
01:12:43,159 --> 01:12:46,720
out pushing Islam. He's since not been a very good Muslim,

1290
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,159
and so some of them have distanced themselves from him.

1291
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:51,520
But the reason I know about that domain is like

1292
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,680
the last six years, I've been debating all the top Muslims,

1293
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,079
and I've been forced to study a lot of Islam,

1294
01:12:57,159 --> 01:12:59,560
which I didn't know much about, but I've seen this

1295
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,119
trend of it. They're trying to link together people who

1296
01:13:02,199 --> 01:13:04,960
question World War two and people who you know, engage

1297
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,960
in discussing Middle Eastern countries.

1298
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:08,359
Speaker 21: Uh.

1299
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 2: They're tying that to the red pill, right wing tape, Islam,

1300
01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:16,520
right wing alliance sphere, and I think that's all bad news.

1301
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: I agree, except except I don't. I'm not sure that

1302
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,760
Patriot Front is fake and FEDS, but it may not be.

1303
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 2: I was just using like a potential example of like

1304
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,600
something they're trying to put out there.

1305
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:34,079
Speaker 3: Oh, I would I would say this though, you know

1306
01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:37,840
that the focus really has to be on who rules

1307
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:42,319
North America and Europe and who can develop a political

1308
01:13:42,359 --> 01:13:47,119
identity for diaspora populations like the Bores. That has to

1309
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:51,199
be the focus, you know, getting back at various ethnic

1310
01:13:51,319 --> 01:13:54,720
groups you think are hostile, I think that's a distraction.

1311
01:13:55,079 --> 01:13:58,359
I think, you know, like I said, I think the

1312
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,479
worst thing possible would be the kind of like get

1313
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:06,399
into this weird thing where somehow we're the representatives of

1314
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,800
the Palestinians now and they're like, this is now the

1315
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,239
central concern because Islam is now the right wing howl.

1316
01:14:12,399 --> 01:14:13,600
Speaker 4: I think that would be a disaster.

1317
01:14:15,359 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm I'm not an Islam fan at all.

1318
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,680
You know what, We'll we'll just leave it there. We

1319
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,800
don't need to go to JQ too hard tonight.

1320
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,039
Speaker 22: Well, I do think because there's also a lot of

1321
01:14:30,079 --> 01:14:31,760
great things that I see, like in like a lot

1322
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:36,039
of Jewish families, they value education, they invest in their children.

1323
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,199
Those are like some of the things that they do

1324
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:41,479
super well. They work together, right, Like a lot of

1325
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,479
Jewish guys that I know, they'll connect you with another

1326
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,239
Jewish guy to work work with or something, you know.

1327
01:14:46,359 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: Like the reason I wanted to touch on this clip

1328
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,880
is because when I hear him say that, he and

1329
01:14:53,239 --> 01:14:55,479
you hear this all the time here. People say like, oh, well,

1330
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,239
I want our country to be like Israel. I want

1331
01:14:58,279 --> 01:15:01,119
our country to be like an ethno religious state or whatever.

1332
01:15:01,319 --> 01:15:03,359
And you say, oh, and I want white people to

1333
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,640
be like nepotistic and to to like work with in

1334
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,760
their own self interest and stuff like that. When I

1335
01:15:10,079 --> 01:15:12,359
hear like Theovonne say that, like, oh, this is something

1336
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:16,479
I admire about Jews. They they are they like look

1337
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,119
after each other. I kind of like think, like, it's

1338
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:22,760
so you can't do that as a white person in

1339
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,640
the current climate. Like imagine going to a restaurant and

1340
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,960
you're you're it's a slow day and the waitress is

1341
01:15:29,039 --> 01:15:31,319
like chatting you up and you ask her how it's going,

1342
01:15:31,359 --> 01:15:34,520
and she's like, oh, I'm having car trouble, and you're like, oh,

1343
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,359
I know a good mechanic. He'll take care of you.

1344
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,439
He's white. She like she would look at you like,

1345
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:45,319
what the fuck you're trying to get me fired? You

1346
01:15:45,399 --> 01:15:47,039
know what I mean, Like, you can't, you can't really

1347
01:15:47,159 --> 01:15:48,039
do that well.

1348
01:15:48,079 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: You know, since the Enlightenment, the Caucasian Western peoples have

1349
01:15:53,199 --> 01:15:58,279
had this inculcation of the ideology of radical atomistic individualism,

1350
01:15:58,399 --> 01:16:01,760
and so that's seen as something that's a violation of

1351
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:07,600
altruistic principles and universal Enlightenment principles. But it's true that

1352
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,359
in some cases, in other situations where people don't have

1353
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,279
that in you know, indoctrination or that belief in group

1354
01:16:14,359 --> 01:16:18,119
preference can be a positive thing that helps them succeed

1355
01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:18,800
and do well.

1356
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:25,119
Speaker 22: Yes, they help their group, you know, And that's something

1357
01:16:25,159 --> 01:16:26,840
I feel like other groups could learn how to do

1358
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:27,359
as well.

1359
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:31,279
Speaker 4: You know, I think he's in there. Go ahead, I

1360
01:16:31,359 --> 01:16:31,880
will say this.

1361
01:16:32,199 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 3: You know, Western peoples have got to start thinking collectively

1362
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:39,439
about politics.

1363
01:16:40,279 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 4: That's it's got to happen.

1364
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,039
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm not saying that it has to

1365
01:16:45,119 --> 01:16:48,760
have any particular racial delineation, like on a pure.

1366
01:16:49,119 --> 01:16:53,359
Speaker 1: When you say Western peoples, that's white people. So so

1367
01:16:54,319 --> 01:16:57,680
so yeah, so you're saying we need some white identitarianism.

1368
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 3: Well, what I'm saying is, I think I think that,

1369
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,239
like I don't think there would be like a white

1370
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,399
I think it's going to be much more like Boors

1371
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,640
and Germans and French or you know, various groups of

1372
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:16,119
like European Americans or European Canadians. I guess I still

1373
01:17:16,119 --> 01:17:18,119
have a little bit of the E. Michael Jones perspective

1374
01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:25,039
on that. But uh, Paul fixes it. Go group, collective game,

1375
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:30,600
and if minimally there cannot be a discussion like this, uh,

1376
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,600
we're just heading right back to the way we where

1377
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,399
we were before with anti whiteness being the order of

1378
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:36,760
the day.

1379
01:17:40,079 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 1: I agree.

1380
01:17:43,199 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 12: People often access do you make trans candles? And our

1381
01:17:48,359 --> 01:17:52,039
answer is simple, there's no one way to be trans

1382
01:17:52,319 --> 01:17:55,520
There's no one way to have a trans body. Our

1383
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,640
candle to have always been and will always.

1384
01:17:58,399 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 4: Be Jina neutral.

1385
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 12: That's what your action is. What do we create design

1386
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:07,560
with top sery, scars, bottom growth, our bodies with peanutes

1387
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:11,960
and breasts. The answer is yes, we absolutely do.

1388
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,079
Speaker 4: It sounds like they're they're on top of the market.

1389
01:18:18,199 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 14: I like that.

1390
01:18:19,359 --> 01:18:26,119
Speaker 2: The what she said was xs ex this is actually interesting,

1391
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:26,920
So let's analyze this.

1392
01:18:27,119 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: This is the one I mentioned free speech.

1393
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,319
Speaker 13: This is an interesting conversation because America believes that's free speech.

1394
01:18:31,359 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't.

1395
01:18:32,199 --> 01:18:36,039
Speaker 13: But every single country in the world has things you

1396
01:18:36,079 --> 01:18:36,800
cannot talk about.

1397
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,199
Speaker 1: We kind of already covered this. Well, I'll just skip

1398
01:18:39,279 --> 01:18:43,239
ahead to the we're gonna I'm gonna go to super

1399
01:18:43,319 --> 01:18:46,760
chats in about ten minutes too, so I want to

1400
01:18:47,399 --> 01:18:50,039
try to cover some different stuff. Or here we go.

1401
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,279
Speaker 21: It seems like every day they're sick and tired to change.

1402
01:18:53,119 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 1: Their clocks back different stuff.

1403
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,520
Speaker 21: I mean, we need to lock the clock. Now we

1404
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,439
are a person Trump of the White House. He agrees

1405
01:18:59,319 --> 01:19:00,399
lock the clock.

1406
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 2: I have a bill.

1407
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 1: This clip went nuts on Twitter and everybody was just

1408
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,079
saying why, like what, why is this Israeli senator talking

1409
01:19:08,119 --> 01:19:10,119
about American The.

1410
01:19:10,319 --> 01:19:14,119
Speaker 2: Daylight savings time versus the Sabbath, Like, what's going on here? Yeah?

1411
01:19:15,119 --> 01:19:18,119
Speaker 1: And also this is Rick Scott, who you may may

1412
01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:21,439
have heard about Hassan saying that they should kill this

1413
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,399
guy and then he got like a twenty four hour

1414
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,399
twitch suspension. I don't know if you guys.

1415
01:19:25,239 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 3: Heard off on Twitter.

1416
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: And guy, yeah, that's on hiper.

1417
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 4: Do you know did they not have staff that watched

1418
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:38,399
these videos?

1419
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 1: There's no American flag in the framing at all. It's

1420
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,800
just like a big like like that's like your eyes

1421
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,199
are drawn right to that, you know, Like there's the

1422
01:19:48,319 --> 01:19:54,359
Israeli Yeah, purpose, I get it, but like, but he's

1423
01:19:54,399 --> 01:19:55,920
trying to show the support for Israel.

1424
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 3: But classically the support for Israel is an Israel flag

1425
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,840
next to an American flag, preferbly under the American flag.

1426
01:20:06,319 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 4: This just looks like he's a he's a stroke froment official.

1427
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 2: But does the topic of is he talking about daylight

1428
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:14,479
savings time?

1429
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's talking about getting rid of daylight savings time,

1430
01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:20,560
which is not something I personally really care about or support.

1431
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,399
I don't know if you guys have strong, strong feelings

1432
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:24,319
on it, but I would.

1433
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,119
Speaker 2: It just doesn't fit with Israel. It's like some kind

1434
01:20:27,159 --> 01:20:28,920
of weird mind control video or something.

1435
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:34,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does look very natural. Looks like that flag

1436
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:35,880
is like up there twenty four or seven.

1437
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,319
Speaker 1: It doesn't probably do.

1438
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,239
Speaker 3: Let's think you come into the office to talk to

1439
01:20:40,359 --> 01:20:42,960
this guy and he has, you know, the Israel flag

1440
01:20:43,039 --> 01:20:43,760
behind his desk.

1441
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,039
Speaker 21: Protection Act which would lock the clock and stop this

1442
01:20:49,279 --> 01:20:52,640
forever changing twice a year, so let's make sure this

1443
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,520
is the last time we have to change our clocks.

1444
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 2: Maybe he's not even into Israel stuff. Maybe he's literally

1445
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,359
just into kabbala.

1446
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: And that's like, all right, this is another tap one

1447
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,640
that we kind of already already talked on that topic.

1448
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,439
Let me skip ahead to Tucker Carlson here, although he's

1449
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,520
kind of Tucker's kind of saying the exact same thing,

1450
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:15,960
which is.

1451
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,359
Speaker 11: Done principle, Like every other group in the world has

1452
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,319
the right to its own homeland except white people. Like

1453
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,439
what yeah, Like, tell me just explain to me how

1454
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,800
that makes sense. Either no group has the right or

1455
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,600
every group has the right. If it's really that simple,

1456
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,159
And if you want to say no group has right, okay,

1457
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,720
you might even convince me. I don't know, I'm not

1458
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,640
a race guy. Actually, by my temperament, that'll I'd kind

1459
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,600
of like to ignore it. But as long as some

1460
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,600
groups have a right to self determination, then every group

1461
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:42,039
has a right.

1462
01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 4: It's that simple.

1463
01:21:44,359 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: This, This is what you're you're talking about, Dave, is

1464
01:21:46,039 --> 01:21:48,520
we need to we need some kind of collective, We

1465
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,880
need to have the conversation. And it does feel like

1466
01:21:52,199 --> 01:21:56,640
we're getting closer to having that conversation in a real way.

1467
01:21:58,039 --> 01:22:01,039
Speaker 4: I mean, why not start with the bores, That's my

1468
01:22:01,159 --> 01:22:02,600
feeling there.

1469
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:08,560
Speaker 3: Their situation is dire, and their only choice to essentially

1470
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:15,000
be obliterated and ethnically cleansed, or to essentially assert a

1471
01:22:15,039 --> 01:22:18,159
separate identity that is politically expressed as a nation.

1472
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 1: Well, you know, they already have like Urania, right, which

1473
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,680
is like the African or uh like town. And I

1474
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,560
was looking at the way today that was like like

1475
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,600
they they kind of founded that like back in the

1476
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,039
seventies or showed like what the land looked like and

1477
01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:37,039
it was like a desert ye and now it's like

1478
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:41,640
washed and beautiful, you know, And I'm just like, oh man,

1479
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,359
they did a good job there. So they're they're they're

1480
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,680
kind of already doing it just without you know, borders.

1481
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they they they got that piece of land

1482
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,640
because it was in the middle of the desert, in

1483
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:58,239
the middle of nowhere. There's absolutely no defensible geographical features

1484
01:22:58,279 --> 01:23:01,000
to it. There's no way there were can become a

1485
01:23:01,079 --> 01:23:05,800
nation because it's just it's cut off from everything. Maybe

1486
01:23:06,039 --> 01:23:08,039
I don't know, but I mean, it wouldn't It wouldn't

1487
01:23:08,039 --> 01:23:10,119
look like a nation in any ordinary sense. It would

1488
01:23:10,119 --> 01:23:11,800
be cut out right from the center of the of

1489
01:23:12,199 --> 01:23:15,479
of the country and a country that will probably be very,

1490
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:16,359
very hostile to it.

1491
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,119
Speaker 1: Just a little city state, you know, you throw up

1492
01:23:19,159 --> 01:23:20,119
some walls.

1493
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 4: Singapore of Africa.

1494
01:23:23,279 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's interesting anytime you bring that topic that

1495
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:33,039
Tucker mentioned. Uh, the opposition to that idea always points

1496
01:23:33,119 --> 01:23:37,680
to this sort of universal violation of some moral, some

1497
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,439
ambiguous moral position of colonialism. Oh, you were a colonialist,

1498
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,359
So no white people will deserve anything because of quote colonialism.

1499
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,600
When you mentioned that about any other empire or nation

1500
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,920
that engage in colonialsm it doesn't apply. And also there's

1501
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,560
the reverse notion that no, you should have the West

1502
01:23:55,800 --> 01:24:00,680
colonized by other people groups as a punishment for colonialism.

1503
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:05,359
So colonialism against you is okay as a punishment for

1504
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:06,439
your colonialism.

1505
01:24:07,319 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because colonialism is the reason that those countries all

1506
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:15,199
got jacked up and fell behind, and so the only

1507
01:24:15,359 --> 01:24:20,640
fair thing to do is to give them our countries. Now, basically, exactly,

1508
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:22,159
what is.

1509
01:24:22,199 --> 01:24:23,520
Speaker 6: The best one night stand?

1510
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:24,199
Speaker 1: You've ever had?

1511
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 6: So many? I mean I had so many fun one

1512
01:24:27,119 --> 01:24:29,520
night stands in my twenties and thirties. So once had

1513
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:30,520
sex with this guy.

1514
01:24:31,239 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1515
01:24:32,399 --> 01:24:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for this one.

1516
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,199
Speaker 6: To be able to call people out with their first

1517
01:24:35,239 --> 01:24:37,000
and last names, which is going to be hard for

1518
01:24:37,079 --> 01:24:39,159
this because I don't even remember his first name. I

1519
01:24:39,239 --> 01:24:41,720
was in at the London Olympics in twenty twelve. I

1520
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,119
believe I was walking home late one night and this

1521
01:24:45,399 --> 01:24:49,359
really sexy British guy just we just locked eyes and

1522
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,880
it was like sex, you know what I mean? Yeah,

1523
01:24:52,119 --> 01:24:54,319
And I was like something you would see in a movie.

1524
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,680
I'm like, what if I just had an affair with

1525
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,960
this guy? And I walked past him and I still

1526
01:25:00,279 --> 01:25:02,600
and I turned around and he had stopped and it

1527
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,720
was late at night, Like this was dangerous, you know,

1528
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,520
it could have been. He said, would you like to

1529
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,159
come back to my place? That was the first thing

1530
01:25:09,279 --> 01:25:11,800
he said. The eye look that we had was so

1531
01:25:12,079 --> 01:25:14,840
intense that I was like, yes, and we went back

1532
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,039
to his house. I mean we barely spoke. I went

1533
01:25:18,159 --> 01:25:19,439
over there every night after.

1534
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 4: So is she an Olympic athlete?

1535
01:25:23,279 --> 01:25:26,359
Speaker 1: No, this is Chelsea Hamler, healthy handler. Yeah, she's a

1536
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:33,119
comedian and I really like despise her because she's also

1537
01:25:33,359 --> 01:25:36,880
like the poster child for child free and a lot

1538
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:40,479
she does. Yeah, she does all these constant bits and

1539
01:25:41,039 --> 01:25:44,880
comedy routines about how great her life is. So she'll

1540
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,279
be like, oh, I sleep until three am and then

1541
01:25:47,279 --> 01:25:49,640
I wake up and hit the bong and then I like,

1542
01:25:50,039 --> 01:25:52,960
you know whatever, go go get my nails done, and

1543
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,000
then I have get drunk and have casual sex with

1544
01:25:56,079 --> 01:25:57,199
some stranger at the bar.

1545
01:25:58,039 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 4: And I looked like the TikTok lazy girl thing.

1546
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she she was like she had like comedy

1547
01:26:04,399 --> 01:26:08,560
specials on, like she she's like a pretty famous celebrity

1548
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,920
and uh but I look at like this right now,

1549
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,840
and it's like this is the end game for that,

1550
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,720
Like look at you now. You're all haggard looking nobody,

1551
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,319
no man wants you. You should be like planning your

1552
01:26:21,399 --> 01:26:25,279
daughter's wedding with her or something, and instead you're sitting

1553
01:26:25,359 --> 01:26:29,560
on a podcast reminiscing about the casual sex that you

1554
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,840
used to have in an incredibly unsexy way too.

1555
01:26:34,039 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like this, she looks she looks like Gollum.

1556
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,600
I mean, she's like looking rough because you can tell

1557
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,800
the that lifestyle has weighed heavy on her of the

1558
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,680
years of of you know, being a box wine mom

1559
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:50,319
and the pills and that we were We had dinner

1560
01:26:50,399 --> 01:26:53,239
with a Austin based stand up comedian. He was a

1561
01:26:53,319 --> 01:26:55,960
woman a couple of nights ago, and she was talking

1562
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,000
about just how tired she is as a stand up

1563
01:26:59,239 --> 01:27:04,479
of the rest of the female disgusting comic scene, Like

1564
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:08,279
every stand up female is this chick like that all

1565
01:27:08,359 --> 01:27:11,079
they talk about is their vagina and just nasty shit

1566
01:27:11,159 --> 01:27:13,840
all the time is disgusting. But the weird part is like,

1567
01:27:14,279 --> 01:27:17,520
since they all do that, it's not edgy, even like

1568
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,800
they were playing on this edginess, it's all that way,

1569
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,680
so it's no longer edgy and now it's just kind

1570
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,960
of like degenerates talking about degenerously.

1571
01:27:26,079 --> 01:27:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually had a female comic in here, and

1572
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,840
I skipped over it. But I'll give you guys a

1573
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,000
little taste.

1574
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 23: Dumpster. A lot of the men feel kind of guilty.

1575
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:39,079
Speaker 7: They think that they're taking.

1576
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,039
Speaker 6: Advantage of us, and.

1577
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,359
Speaker 1: It's exactly that. It's just like totally vulgar.

1578
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,319
Speaker 3: Let me see here, this stuff, I keep it expecting

1579
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:57,039
millennials to get tired of the whole like disgusting. You know,

1580
01:27:57,159 --> 01:28:00,840
profanity culture is millennial culture thing, and it keeps on

1581
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,680
never happening. I thought we would get over this in

1582
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,000
two thousand and for a team.

1583
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 1: It's hard to I don't know, it seems like it's

1584
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:14,399
hard to dial culture back towards civilization. It's just it's

1585
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:16,520
just like seems like it's like I've never really seen

1586
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:23,439
things trend towards refinement or whatever or decorum, you know,

1587
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,560
like the entire time I've been alive, it seems like

1588
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:30,119
it's just we've just been trending constantly away from that. Yeah,

1589
01:28:31,039 --> 01:28:33,159
seconds possible. I've just never seen it.

1590
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 4: Mayor Johnson, Chicago. How much is the city in Chicago

1591
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,119
spent on I legal immigration?

1592
01:28:42,039 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 23: If you refer into the twenty twenty two up to

1593
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,800
twenty twenty four of the buses coming from Texas, roughly

1594
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,439
the same percentage of the state of Texas, about one

1595
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:52,640
percent of our overall budget.

1596
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 4: What is that because we don't have the city's budget

1597
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:55,680
in front of me numbers.

1598
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,560
Speaker 23: It's one percent. And if you want the actual calculation,

1599
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:00,600
we can make sure someone you're the mayor, you don't

1600
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,239
have the math in front of you. Is one percent

1601
01:29:02,359 --> 01:29:04,119
of the overall budget over the last that's why you

1602
01:29:04,159 --> 01:29:06,840
were failing. Which is the same number then of New

1603
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:10,359
York actually spent on legal immigration? Mayor Johnson, I already

1604
01:29:10,399 --> 01:29:11,920
asked you you don't have a hard number, and if

1605
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,319
you don't have a hard number, you're not running your city. Well,

1606
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,319
Mayor Adams, how much of the City of New York

1607
01:29:16,319 --> 01:29:17,640
actually spend on illegal immigration?

1608
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 4: Six point nine billion of tech space six point nine

1609
01:29:22,319 --> 01:29:23,560
billion dollars?

1610
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 1: Once again, a little little snapshot of America there for you.

1611
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:34,199
Speaker 4: Guy doesn't know.

1612
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: Mayor of Chicago doesn't know what the budget is for

1613
01:29:39,039 --> 01:29:41,199
the city call you would think if you knew the

1614
01:29:41,319 --> 01:29:44,640
budget and you're the mayor, you'd be capable of doing

1615
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,159
a calculation of what is one percent?

1616
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:48,079
Speaker 4: It's not.

1617
01:29:50,079 --> 01:29:55,319
Speaker 2: Want to say right right yeah, because yeah, they're ineffective

1618
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:59,319
or they're actually being very effective, because I mean we've

1619
01:29:59,399 --> 01:30:02,600
gone to all in multiple times in the last ten

1620
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:08,479
years and from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty five. I

1621
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,760
mean that place is completely trashed. It's crazy.

1622
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:17,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, guys, we got a decent

1623
01:30:17,159 --> 01:30:20,000
amount of super chats. Let's let's just get into this

1624
01:30:20,199 --> 01:30:22,119
a little bit and then we'll call it a night. Here.

1625
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:27,039
Shift Demeanor sent five dollars on Rumble and he said,

1626
01:30:27,279 --> 01:30:31,199
great guests. I like the later shows. Greetings to Jay

1627
01:30:31,359 --> 01:30:36,520
from a Catholic brother. Thanks for the five yo I did.

1628
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,159
We did the late show because Dave to work with

1629
01:30:39,279 --> 01:30:41,680
day schedule. I'm not a fan because I eat supper

1630
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,039
and then I'm ready for bed basically, but you know,

1631
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,640
you do what you gotta do to get the goat on.

1632
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:52,399
Speaker 3: I'm still the wage cock though I work during the day,

1633
01:30:53,159 --> 01:30:54,600
so thanks for accommodating me.

1634
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's a pleasure, all right. Nathan Kurt sent

1635
01:30:59,159 --> 01:31:03,159
five dollars. Happy to see Jay and Dave interact. Thank

1636
01:31:03,239 --> 01:31:05,319
you for that. I hope it was worth it. Hope

1637
01:31:05,359 --> 01:31:09,079
you got your five dollars worth of Jedier. This is

1638
01:31:09,199 --> 01:31:12,600
five dollars from John Isaac. Jedier got married to a

1639
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:14,600
funko pop whoa oh.

1640
01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 2: That is that another y'all are not familiar with my music.

1641
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:21,600
I make goofy songs. You can check out my funko pops.

1642
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,960
I hate funko pops. So the song is satire.

1643
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Speaker 1: Do you play instruments or.

1644
01:31:28,199 --> 01:31:28,239
Speaker 5: No?

1645
01:31:28,359 --> 01:31:32,039
Speaker 2: I just do like vocals, So I just start singing

1646
01:31:32,119 --> 01:31:32,800
crazy stuff.

1647
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 14: Uh.

1648
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: Boomer Slayer sent ten dollars. No message there. Don Browning

1649
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,439
sent five dollars for the goal no coke can pass

1650
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,479
to please. Yeah, that's a joke from last one. Jason

1651
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:50,760
Scholl sent two dollars. H BROSI sent five dollars. That's

1652
01:31:51,039 --> 01:31:54,920
the funny thing, Dave. There is no rhetorical corner when

1653
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,720
it comes to whites. They will just handwave your complaints

1654
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,760
and spam white supremacy.

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01:32:03,199 --> 01:32:05,039
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, is that is that true? I mean,

1656
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:10,039
is I am person who does not believe rhetoric whally

1657
01:32:10,079 --> 01:32:15,760
accomplishes anything? But that being said, funny position for you guys,

1658
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:19,079
I think so much. Well, yeah, you're right. Do you

1659
01:32:19,159 --> 01:32:20,359
talk a lot? You know.

1660
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,399
Speaker 3: There is such thing as a zeitgeist, the spirit of

1661
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:31,399
the age, and just looking at how this conversation has advanced,

1662
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:36,000
and now Tucker Carlson is talking about how you know

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01:32:36,079 --> 01:32:40,359
there needs to be countries that are considered you know

1664
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:46,199
they're European. Racially, European people need to consider themselves to

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01:32:46,239 --> 01:32:49,760
have indigenous countries or countries where they are the indigenous people.

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01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:55,239
That's a huge step in I think a good direction actually,

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01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:55,960
But they.

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01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: Do still some white supremacy, right, I mean you had

1669
01:32:59,039 --> 01:33:02,000
you had this Sam Cedar clip. He's talking to that

1670
01:33:02,279 --> 01:33:07,479
Sarah Scock. Oh yeah, and well the culture of America

1671
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:12,000
is like white European Christian. A lot of people on

1672
01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:14,960
Twitter calling her a Nazi from the left, a lot

1673
01:33:15,079 --> 01:33:18,720
of the N word being thrown around, Nazi.

1674
01:33:19,039 --> 01:33:23,039
Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought I thought progressives like they were

1675
01:33:23,079 --> 01:33:27,760
trying to dunk on this, right, But I don't know,

1676
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:31,279
it's our conservatives. It only really hurts if conservatives play

1677
01:33:31,279 --> 01:33:33,239
a ball with it. If conservatives are like, yeah, that's

1678
01:33:33,239 --> 01:33:37,159
a completely acceptable position, then it has entered the Overton window,

1679
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,079
and you know, then they're just calling half the country

1680
01:33:40,319 --> 01:33:42,439
Nazis again and again, like they have for the last

1681
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:43,119
ten years.

1682
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: No, that's a good point. You're right. The conservatives I

1683
01:33:46,079 --> 01:33:49,560
think mostly are so like you had Matt Walsh defending

1684
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:53,239
it and stuff like that, which I thought was was good.

1685
01:33:54,359 --> 01:33:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, like I don't think nationalism is going

1686
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,960
to fix but essentially as a spiritual problem.

1687
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,279
Speaker 4: So I want to make that one hundred percent clear.

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01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,119
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I just I just say

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01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:09,199
this adoption of a collective frame to be just a

1690
01:34:09,319 --> 01:34:13,560
necessary historical step forward that just needs to happen in

1691
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,279
order for us to kind of get a handle on

1692
01:34:16,399 --> 01:34:17,359
the larger problem.

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01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: Though I sort of disagree because, like I think the

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01:34:21,159 --> 01:34:24,840
nationalism is the most important part, because that's the existential

1695
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,239
threat that we're facing. And when it comes to the

1696
01:34:27,319 --> 01:34:32,439
spiritual side, that's something that as an individual you can control,

1697
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:36,520
Like you can control your own spiritual development, your own

1698
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:38,560
the way you live your life. If you live your

1699
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,840
life in a gobbly way, no one can really stop

1700
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,520
you from doing that, right, But.

1701
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:48,199
Speaker 3: When its individually, yes, But I mean people also have

1702
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:51,960
spiritual like there is such thing as I mean it's

1703
01:34:52,119 --> 01:34:54,880
getting to controversial theologically, there's such a thing as like

1704
01:34:55,039 --> 01:34:58,520
spirituality at a collective level. And sure you have to

1705
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,199
be able to see European people's and Western peoples before

1706
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:04,479
you see that they're sick.

1707
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 4: In a spiritual way. That's my thought on it.

1708
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's obviously there's a lot of work to

1709
01:35:13,359 --> 01:35:16,319
do there when it comes to like the moral fabric

1710
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,640
of society or however you want to put it. But

1711
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,880
I feel like, like I feel like the nationalism thing

1712
01:35:23,039 --> 01:35:26,239
is the is that's sort of the existential threat. And

1713
01:35:26,399 --> 01:35:30,199
like like Jay was saying that a nation is the

1714
01:35:30,359 --> 01:35:33,479
people or like that's an integral part of it and

1715
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:37,119
we need to like get get on board with that,

1716
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,119
and then once we're on board with that, then the

1717
01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:44,479
spiritual part will follow. I kind of think, I don't know,

1718
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:44,960
what do.

1719
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:48,079
Speaker 3: You think it's It's like, if you're a boor, you

1720
01:35:48,159 --> 01:35:50,720
need to worry about your people right now, you're going

1721
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,079
to get like lens emly.

1722
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:58,359
Speaker 1: But we need we need mass deportations, we need total

1723
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:04,720
immigration like oratorium or even just like a white immigration policy,

1724
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:09,000
like we're we're headed in the same way as South Africa.

1725
01:36:09,159 --> 01:36:11,600
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, I agree with you, but but you know,

1726
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:14,840
this is what I'm saying, Like every single collective people

1727
01:36:15,359 --> 01:36:19,159
that has been atheist and irreligious has always committed suicide.

1728
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:23,319
Like that that this is what humans do collectively when

1729
01:36:23,319 --> 01:36:26,680
they do not have a motivating spirituality. If it wasn't

1730
01:36:27,399 --> 01:36:30,479
mass migration, we'd be looking to commit suicide in some

1731
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,800
other way. Arguably, we are committing suicide in multiple ways.

1732
01:36:35,159 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I agree that actually both positions. I

1733
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:42,039
think there's a sort of concentric layer circles that go

1734
01:36:42,199 --> 01:36:46,600
along with both the idea of the nation as a

1735
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:51,239
whole and then perhaps down the road some broader idea

1736
01:36:51,319 --> 01:36:55,720
of a Christian imperium that's actually the traditional position of

1737
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,479
the East and the West. There is that collective aspect.

1738
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,600
But I also agree that like that evangelization happens at

1739
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:05,680
a local level, it filters out and then eventually reaches

1740
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:08,920
like a larger scale, and then a larger scale, and

1741
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:13,560
then once the society is predominantly I would argue Orthodox

1742
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,840
Christianity is the thing that's going to be that has

1743
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:20,880
that power, that ability to balance both the church and

1744
01:37:21,039 --> 01:37:23,560
the state. I would argue I'm not trying to spark

1745
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,039
a debate with Davey or anything, but the Vatican, in

1746
01:37:26,119 --> 01:37:28,880
my view, has kind of stepped away from the idea

1747
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:32,880
of a Christian state. Many Catholics have been, you know,

1748
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,439
even critical of that in the last fifty years since Batic,

1749
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,640
sixty years since Vatican Two. But I think in Orthodox

1750
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,119
Christianity there's at least still the potentiality of the notion

1751
01:37:41,239 --> 01:37:42,079
of a Christian state.

1752
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:47,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

1753
01:37:47,119 --> 01:37:49,159
Speaker 3: I think there in the future there might be radically

1754
01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:52,920
different social organizations. But I'm very sympathetic to the whole

1755
01:37:53,079 --> 01:37:58,279
Geepeling idea of the Christian state that has a destiny

1756
01:37:58,359 --> 01:38:01,039
of its own self. I'll say that to avoid the debate.

1757
01:38:02,039 --> 01:38:06,199
Speaker 1: Okay, Polly b sent five dollars and says I care

1758
01:38:06,239 --> 01:38:10,760
as much about race relations as I do the stock market. Well,

1759
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,039
I don't know how much you care about the stock market,

1760
01:38:13,119 --> 01:38:14,199
so I'm not sure what to make of that.

1761
01:38:14,239 --> 01:38:16,640
Speaker 2: I think that might have been people care a lot

1762
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:16,960
about it.

1763
01:38:17,279 --> 01:38:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you have. That might have been in

1764
01:38:21,319 --> 01:38:23,920
the context of the Derek Chauvin and the race war

1765
01:38:24,119 --> 01:38:29,199
riots thing we were talking about, which you know, it's

1766
01:38:29,239 --> 01:38:31,960
easy to not care until they're burning down your house

1767
01:38:32,159 --> 01:38:37,640
or whatever. Then then you're gonna care. Michael cru sent

1768
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:41,920
twenty dollars. Blessings to all y'all. Great show, looking forward

1769
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,239
to the next Fiddler's Green. That's your show, right.

1770
01:38:45,279 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 4: Dad, that's my podcast. Yeah, I'm not very good with names.

1771
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:54,239
Speaker 1: Did you read Sanman the Samman comics? Yeah, Fiddler's Green

1772
01:38:54,359 --> 01:38:55,159
was like a character.

1773
01:38:56,159 --> 01:39:00,199
Speaker 4: It was a copy of Jesterton and right, and is.

1774
01:39:00,199 --> 01:39:03,279
Speaker 1: That like a poem or a book that Chesterton wrote

1775
01:39:03,359 --> 01:39:03,920
or something like that.

1776
01:39:04,039 --> 01:39:07,520
Speaker 4: Or it's weird. Fiddler's Green is a.

1777
01:39:09,159 --> 01:39:11,399
Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's a song and a folk

1778
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:14,880
song and a folk tale that was associated largely with

1779
01:39:15,039 --> 01:39:20,199
like sailors and and for whatever reason, uh, you know, game.

1780
01:39:20,079 --> 01:39:22,600
Speaker 4: And associated that with GK. Chesterton.

1781
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,359
Speaker 3: I I played a fiddle, which is why I picked

1782
01:39:25,399 --> 01:39:30,079
the name uh to correspond also with my uh you know,

1783
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,960
uh non to plume, so to speak.

1784
01:39:33,319 --> 01:39:36,239
Speaker 4: So it's not a very good name. I agree, I know,

1785
01:39:36,399 --> 01:39:36,840
I like it.

1786
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:42,039
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, all right, amazing disgrace sent five dollars. I

1787
01:39:42,119 --> 01:39:45,000
got a lot of crap for comparing libertarians to the

1788
01:39:45,159 --> 01:39:48,560
children with a Fisher Price steering wheel, pretending they can

1789
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:53,079
drive the car. By the way, Jay, I saw when

1790
01:39:53,119 --> 01:39:55,319
we were talking, I saw the normal check go by

1791
01:39:55,319 --> 01:39:59,239
a while. Somebody said Jay doesn't understand libertarianism. He doesn't

1792
01:39:59,279 --> 01:39:59,880
know what he's talking.

1793
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 2: I've debated, I've been debating a critiquing libertarianism for I

1794
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:08,199
don't know, since the two thousands, so I'm pretty familiar

1795
01:40:08,279 --> 01:40:08,439
with it.

1796
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do like call in debates, right, Yeah,

1797
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:13,960
we do all that there you go. So whoever sent

1798
01:40:14,039 --> 01:40:14,560
that chat.

1799
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: Well in school?

1800
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 1: Jay?

1801
01:40:17,079 --> 01:40:22,119
Speaker 3: On libertarianism, I have one comment, does anyone take libertarianism

1802
01:40:22,199 --> 01:40:25,399
seriously after COVID? That was like the last year I

1803
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:27,039
took libertarianism serious.

1804
01:40:27,279 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 1: I was calling it law libertarianism before COVID. So yeah,

1805
01:40:31,079 --> 01:40:33,720
I'm the wrong ask Yeah.

1806
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:37,600
Speaker 2: Fair enough, But I mean I dropped libertarianism when I

1807
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:41,239
was a traditional Catholic. I read a bunch of SSPX

1808
01:40:41,359 --> 01:40:45,119
materials that were that were pro monarchy. I read Salaun

1809
01:40:45,199 --> 01:40:48,800
Churtz's book Critiquing Americanism. I read the papal and cyclicals

1810
01:40:49,239 --> 01:40:53,279
critiquing Americanism. You know, all of that's actually what cleansed

1811
01:40:53,319 --> 01:40:55,079
me of a lot of that back in two thousand

1812
01:40:55,119 --> 01:40:58,560
and seven eight. And I mean I still appreciate aspects

1813
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,199
of you know, the Ron Paulos or whatever, you know,

1814
01:41:01,359 --> 01:41:03,920
audit the fad. Yeah sure, but like that's just not

1815
01:41:04,239 --> 01:41:10,520
enough to to build a civilization on. It's really ultimately problematic.

1816
01:41:11,159 --> 01:41:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think libertarianism maybe has a utility in being

1817
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:20,039
like a little force that kind of polls like like

1818
01:41:20,199 --> 01:41:23,560
that that kind of tries to check maybe, and like

1819
01:41:24,399 --> 01:41:28,840
the libertarians now are nominally right wings, so they can

1820
01:41:29,039 --> 01:41:32,239
threaten Republicans and they can say they're like Republicans like, hey,

1821
01:41:33,159 --> 01:41:35,359
you're you're doing too much right now, we're going to

1822
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:38,359
vote for the libertarian And so in that sense it

1823
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,760
can kind of there maybe can be good theoretically if

1824
01:41:42,159 --> 01:41:45,479
they're pulling on the right threads, I guess. But in

1825
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:49,239
terms of like having a libertarian society, fucking forget about it.

1826
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:52,039
Speaker 21: Uh.

1827
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 3: It's it's like the ultimate thing you adopt, like when

1828
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:57,960
you're when you're not a progressive, you're like, oh no,

1829
01:41:58,039 --> 01:42:01,079
I'm not a scary conservative. I'm a liberty terry. And

1830
01:42:01,159 --> 01:42:03,079
then it's like all right to be that, like it's

1831
01:42:03,359 --> 01:42:04,800
somewhat socially acceptable.

1832
01:42:05,159 --> 01:42:07,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all right.

1833
01:42:07,399 --> 01:42:08,079
Speaker 4: Uh h.

1834
01:42:08,279 --> 01:42:12,279
Speaker 1: Brasi sent five dollars and says skittlemen are buying baby

1835
01:42:12,399 --> 01:42:16,439
boys from their mothers to do booty stuff. You think

1836
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:20,920
the worst is behind us? Hedonism will win for years

1837
01:42:21,079 --> 01:42:23,439
to come, oh man.

1838
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:26,079
Speaker 2: Black pill black Coill comment.

1839
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

1840
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,600
Speaker 3: I think I think I hate to say people are

1841
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:35,439
waking up, but I think we're I think we're just

1842
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,159
going to kind of go into different directions as a society.

1843
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 1: I heard there there was a tweet that the decline

1844
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:46,079
in church attendance has like finally leveled off because it

1845
01:42:46,159 --> 01:42:50,119
has like young people started going to church again in

1846
01:42:50,319 --> 01:42:53,880
slightly greater numbers than past generations.

1847
01:42:55,079 --> 01:42:58,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been multiple studies that the growth in the

1848
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:03,479
nuns have finally stop. They stopped growing and have started declining,

1849
01:43:04,039 --> 01:43:08,119
and there's been a very small resurgence in church attendance.

1850
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:12,760
So this could be the vibe shift kind of taking

1851
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:13,520
root properly.

1852
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,520
Speaker 1: Oil King sent ten dollars. He says, LP, do you

1853
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:23,239
like PoCA? We need more animators like Murdoch Psalm Chapter

1854
01:43:23,359 --> 01:43:25,920
one needs to be said. We are done with bad

1855
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:30,279
faith argument Cedar and company trash yag yag yag. I tooted, well,

1856
01:43:30,319 --> 01:43:32,359
thanks for the ten dollars. I'm not really a big

1857
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,319
PoCA fan. I like once in a while it's I

1858
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:40,079
like some accordion stuff, but it's not really in my

1859
01:43:40,239 --> 01:43:45,079
regular rotation to crank a lot of PoCA. And oil

1860
01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:48,479
King sent Vitalis said, Jay, could you be the voice actor?

1861
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:50,239
And do you like PoCA?

1862
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 2: Voice actor?

1863
01:43:54,039 --> 01:43:55,159
Speaker 12: For what? I?

1864
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 1: Do you know Murdoch? Murdoch? Do you know that old

1865
01:43:58,039 --> 01:44:01,439
al Right cartoon? Is the old YouTube show from like

1866
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:04,720
twenty sixteen they stopped making it. But he's saying it

1867
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:06,760
was like an animated thing, and he's saying we need

1868
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:11,520
more animated right wing cold Well, I do.

1869
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,079
Speaker 2: I can do about fifty impressions, so I'm always down

1870
01:44:14,159 --> 01:44:14,319
for that.

1871
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's a good impression you can do?

1872
01:44:19,039 --> 01:44:23,359
Speaker 2: Everybody from jesse Lee Peterson to Nicholas.

1873
01:44:23,079 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 1: Cage hit us with your j LP real quick?

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Speaker 2: Did you know that women at the gates of Hell

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able to come through the women?

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Speaker 11: Did you know that women at the gates to Hell's amazing?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Uh, by the way, he actually thinks that when women

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are the gates of Hell and the in the Book

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of Genesis.

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Speaker 1: I love I love jesse Man. He's a He's a

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National chair treasure as far as I'm concerned. Uh, Nichol's

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bord he sent two dollars. Jay, Can you do a

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theology philosophy library tour like a book tour?

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Speaker 14: I guess.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody keeps asking for this. I'm not sure why.

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I mean, because there's a lot of boring reference books.

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Like I don't know if they think they're going to

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see like my anime section, or like I don't have

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any animes, so I don't I don't know why people

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want to see them, but I mean maybe one day,

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I guess, Yeah, do.

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Speaker 4: You have kids, Ja or we do not?

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Speaker 2: But that's not because we're avoiding kids. Well I don't

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think we don't think my wife can have kids, but

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we do not try to not have kids, if that

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makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, well hopefully will because I did like

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a cross state book tour thing I don't know if

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you're familiar with. Yeah, he and he vlogged the whole thing,

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and then he wrote a book about it called American Pilgrim,

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which I read. It's actually a good book, and it

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felt it seems like it would be fun thing to

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do if you can swing it. A lot of planning involved, obviously,

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but you get, you know, a good experience to go

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all over America. And I just asked the about the

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kids because it was like, it would be really hard

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to do that if we already.

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Speaker 2: Do that, like we actually do. When I have a

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new book come out, we do live events usually we do.

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We do Nashville, Orlando, Austin, LA, a couple other places,

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so we usually do that every year or two.

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Speaker 1: Didn't you say you have a new book coming out

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or you just put one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what taricll with three will be out like

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in a couple months.

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Speaker 1: All right. H Brassey sent five dollars. Conservatives will always

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play ball with it, Dave. I agree with your point

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on the spiritual issues as well. Jay has been pressing

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that point for years. Play ball with it. I'm not

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sure what he means.

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Speaker 3: I think they mean like the generous thing, right, I mean,

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the the based gay guy has been Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I know God, Yeah, kind of just like going

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in circles here.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Austin sent five dollars. When can Jay Dyer debate Adam Green?

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We need this scripture battle to exist one day. What

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is the story with that? Because I've heard people say

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you are scared of Adam Green. I've heard people say

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Adam Green is scared of you.

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Speaker 2: Right, So I don't debate everyone that wants a debate.

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He debated one of my good friends, David Patrick Carey

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Church of the Eternal Logos. They had a two to

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three hour debate. I think you can still find it

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on Rumble or Bitch Shoot, and if you go watch

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that debate, you'll see that. I mean usually when I

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engage in a debate. It's it's a pretty philosophically dense exchange,

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not bragging or I'm just saying that's how it goes.

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And Adam Green has no familiarity, your knowledge of anything

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to do with the basic fallacies, anything to do with

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critical thinking, epistemology, and that debate with Cotel David Patrick

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Carrey shows that. So it's really just not worth engaging in.

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There's other people too that you know, want to do

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debates that are just super low tier, and it really

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just isn't worth it. It's going to be repeated that

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David Patrick Carey debate, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Actually I hosted a debate with Adam Green and Corey

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mall Are like a month ago, and that did kind

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of come up where Corey would be like, well, like,

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how do you like you don't believe anything, like what

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is truth? And the atheists all just kind of roll

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their eyes and are like, come on, this is retarded.

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It's like, well, I don't know, man, maybe maybe it's

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maybe it's a real question.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've got like so I've got multiple pagan debates,

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have already done a debated Bogglord Dave back in the day,

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and I've debated all the top atheists, so it's just

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like those kind of debates are just kind of like

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the same debate over and overever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, h Brass's in five dollars. I'm the

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most dedicated jfall who are on Earth right now, so

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trust me, I'm not blackpilling at all. I just don't

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think the culture shift will occur soon. Okay, Well, thank you.

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Speaker 2: For I agree with that. I think, like you know,

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we're under decades and decades of social engineering, Fabian socialism,

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mind control Taasauk Institute, so it's probably gonna take decades

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and decades to undo.

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Speaker 1: It, might view. Thank you. Lev sent two dollars and

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says I missed his super chat, but I'm scrolling through

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it again and I don't see it. Lev. I'm sorry,

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unless it's on the Power Chat, which I haven't got

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to yet. All right, Helio's ten or sent five dollars.

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I want to be a guest on this show. Well,

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the problem is is nobody knows who you are, dude,

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at least I don't, But you know, maybe Nichols Bordy

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sent two dollars. Jay, when's the Alex O'Connor and Michael

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Knowles debate.

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Speaker 2: Uh, that already happened, So I don't know why they're

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asking me that.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm going to be on Lev's channel tomorrow

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for a debate, So that's probably why it's super chatting.

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Speaker 1: Who are you debating.

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Speaker 4: Some liberal about whether Trump's gone too far?

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm always debating like this avenue of

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like centrist liberals that it's been doing this again again again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, yeah, Lev. If it was on YouTube,

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I just I don't see it. But we'll go. I'm

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going over to the Power Chats now and then we'll

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be well, these should be the last ones here.

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Speaker 2: Let me see, is it?

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Speaker 1: He's twelve floor? Just a few here?

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Speaker 2: Rick Berger, I'm sorry, I just I just remembered I

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was thinking of Alex O'Connor and someone else. Is there

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an upcoming Michael Knowles Alex O'Connor debate.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who is Alex O'Connor skeptic? He's like that,

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ah yeah, yeah, okay, oh yeah right.

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Speaker 2: Man, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: He's like a throwback to two thousand and seven, very much,

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very much.

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Speaker 1: Michael Knowles is pretty sharp, so I might check that out.

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If it happens. Rick Erger sent five dollars. Great show, LP,

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been watching you for years. Was disappointed to see you've

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blocked me on Twitter. Not sure how it happened. Would

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you mind I'm blocking the idea? Uh yeah, hopefully your

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Twitter name is rick Erger. I'll look for that. If

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you have a different handle, you should have included it.

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People always do this thing like, hey, can you unblock me?

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And I'm like, well, I can't find you, but I'll

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look for you and unblock you if I can find you.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Michael Knowles, I just remembered, Uh, we're trying

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to get a debate on Tim asked with it's me.

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I'm not sure who my co debate person would be,

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but Tim Gordon and Michael Knowles versus me and somebody.

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And then now they want to bring in a Protestant,

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which I think that's going to be too many people,

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but it might be Wes Huff, so we might have

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a giant.

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Speaker 1: Big star. Now west Huff, who did you say Gordon?

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Who's the other one?

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Speaker 2: So Tim Gordon thrills for retrogrades, retrograde and he's buddies

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with Michael Knowles. So we're trying to get.

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Speaker 1: That set up, and it's just going to be like

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a like a theological sect to beate's yes, like Orthodox

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versus Protestant versus Catholic debate.

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Speaker 2: So it'll be huge if Michael Knowles will do it.

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I kind of feel like you won't, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you never know. He went on whatever podcast

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a bunch of times, and that seems like a lower

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level than Tim Foole, So who knows betrayed cent three

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dollars Florida Israel got to go. No, no, I'm not

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sure what that's in reference to. And then let me

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see there's a couple more came in on YouTube. Ten

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dollars from h Brassey just to further bolster what Jay

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said regarding Adam Green go find his debates with gem

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or Andrew. No understanding of what fallacious arguments are. I'm

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not just capping for Jay.

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Speaker 2: The dude is yeah, I forgot the debated Gene. That

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debate's really good too, And I forgot you debated Andrew.

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Speaker 1: That's right cool, Thanks very much for all the support everybody.

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And finally five dollars from Amazing Disgrace. Change can come

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01:53:35,039 --> 01:53:38,680
quick as quick as an epiphany. Have faith in what

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you are doing. I hope so, I hope change does come.

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All right, That's that's everything. Wow, good show, A lot

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of heavy stuff my brain. I'm gonna need a a

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01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:57,560
drink and a crash after this. But thanks you so

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much to my guests. I'll give you guys a chance

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01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:02,039
to p or let people know where to look for you.

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01:54:02,199 --> 01:54:05,039
Of course I put links to your Twitter and your

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01:54:05,159 --> 01:54:07,520
YouTube accounts. But if there's anything else you want to

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plug or let people know about, please go ahead, Jay,

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01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:11,560
why don't you start?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Thanks man, this was a lot of fun. I enjoyed

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01:54:14,520 --> 01:54:17,720
talking to both of you guys. Great topics, funny, funny,

2057
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:21,800
fun videos tonight. Yeah, my, like I said, Third Esater

2058
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Hollywood book will be out in a couple of months.

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01:54:23,680 --> 01:54:26,479
You can always buy one and two in the shop

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01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,920
at my website Jasonelsis dot com. We have a vast

2061
01:54:29,079 --> 01:54:32,319
archived there of all my talks, interviews and lectures going

2062
01:54:32,399 --> 01:54:35,800
back last decade or so. You can follow me on

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01:54:36,079 --> 01:54:39,520
X for Alex Jones every Friday. We just did two

2064
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,279
shows with Alex the past couple of days, so go

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01:54:41,439 --> 01:54:45,720
check those out on X and Yeah, I think that's

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if you follow me on any of the socials, it's

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under my name. So thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Thanks. I guess i'll go. I'm Dave Green. I blog

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at Well.

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Speaker 3: I'm mostly known for the YouTube Channe the distributest, and

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I'm off Twitter for lent. But you can catch me

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at my seb stack at fiddler Letters from Fiddler's Green.

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Speaker 18: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And that's pretty much it. Thanks for having on. It

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was a great conversation.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, okay, Lev have sent on stream labs my bad,

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but once I did miss that. Okay, so on stream labs,

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Lev said five dollars. He said, Dave a reminder about

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tomorrow's show with River Page at seven. Well, you you

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01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:32,760
already brought that up, so he said, please let me know.

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But it sounds like you're you're gonna be there.

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Speaker 4: It's on my calendar.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there you go. You can always count on Dave

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and also J also J gnostic informant would def love

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to talk with you, and he feels you two got

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off on the wrong foot.

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Speaker 2: I'm good, thank you. I'm shooting for Michael Knowles, I'm

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not shooting for Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, guys, Thanks wonderful guest, Thanks for being here,

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Thanks everybody for watching, and all the super Chests great

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01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:17,000
support tonight, I really appreciate it. We're gonna call it

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a night, so everybody enjoy your evening and we'll catch

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you next time. Bye bye