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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get the five o'clock hours started. Here

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<v Speaker 2>at a beautiful Tuesday afternoon, the sun is shining. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got postseason basketball on. It's not great action, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>great teams, but hey, it's it's March, it's winter or

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<v Speaker 2>go home for a for a lot of teams playing today,

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<v Speaker 2>because let's say today's games don't include any team that

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<v Speaker 2>could get in if they if they lose today, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's nobody from the ACC that's getting in

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<v Speaker 2>without winning the whole tournament outside of honestly, Louisville. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean Louisville, Clemson, and Duke are clearly in, and then

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Carolina could get in just because of the bubble

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<v Speaker 2>bouncing their way. But outside of those four, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>Wake Forest and SMU, I don't think they can get

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<v Speaker 2>enough good wins from now until Saturday, if orse, they

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<v Speaker 2>even do that to where they would be able to

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<v Speaker 2>find themselves in.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I mean, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Great action today, but hey, it's it's college hoops and

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<v Speaker 2>it's when it's winner go home, you can tell, like

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<v Speaker 2>there's an emphasis clearly for these teams that I'm watching

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and whoever wins this will get a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to play tomorrow, and the winner of that game will

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<v Speaker 2>take on Louisville. So right now looks like it is

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<v Speaker 2>is it still tied?

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<v Speaker 3>It was tied?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Last I checked, it's close between Cal and UH and

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<v Speaker 2>and who's who is it Cal? Who's Cal playing Virginia Tech. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how quickly I forget, because again, I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not to say that, you know, Louisville can overlook anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>because they almost lost to Virginia Tech. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like if if if Louisville is even close to who

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<v Speaker 2>we think they are, they they should be able. Upsets happened,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, but I mean, I haven't thought a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot about whoever it's going to be, But it's either

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<v Speaker 2>going to be one of these three teams, because the

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<v Speaker 2>winner of this Virginia Tech CAL game will play Standford tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>and the winter that one will be Louisvill's opponent on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>And then once Louisville gets past them, of course, if

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<v Speaker 2>they do, I mean I assume they would. Well that's

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<v Speaker 2>where Friday could set up for a rematch with Clemson,

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<v Speaker 2>which will give you I mean, look, it's worked out

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<v Speaker 2>to where it will still be a valuable win. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be another quad one, but not just a

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<v Speaker 2>quad one, because you know it barely hit the range

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<v Speaker 2>of what makes a quad one a quad one. But

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<v Speaker 2>it will be a neutral sit win against a Clemson

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<v Speaker 2>team that only has suffered one loss since you beat them,

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<v Speaker 2>and oh.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, they beat Duke.

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<v Speaker 2>So there'd be a real value there, in fact, more

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<v Speaker 2>value than I probably have been considering.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just something about it being like if Louisville you'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather have two wins against Clemson than one, considering Clemson's

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<v Speaker 2>your best win. But I also just the thought of

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<v Speaker 2>flexing your best wins being the same team twice. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>more than anything, it would just show how new teams

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<v Speaker 2>you played in your league that gave you.

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<v Speaker 3>The chance to get any value.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, a Duke rematch would be awesome, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what would happen. And I don't feel good

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<v Speaker 2>about Louisville's chances because I think Duke's that good, But

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<v Speaker 2>I think they'd compete and I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>I die to see what they could do if they

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<v Speaker 2>played against a team like that, because you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>never I mean, I don't want to get ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves here, but like if Louisville plays Duke in the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC tournament, I mean you could you know, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>say hypothetically you pulled off the big upset, Well, then

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<v Speaker 2>you could still lose early in the tournament and that

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<v Speaker 2>would be you know. So what I'm getting at is

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<v Speaker 2>just you don't know if you're going to get another

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<v Speaker 2>big test with this team, and I have no clue

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<v Speaker 2>what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>It'd be a bummer if they played and they got killed.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, I I'd rather watch and find out than

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<v Speaker 2>just not play them at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Like maybe a beat down would hurt your.

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<v Speaker 2>Resume, but I mean I selfishly, I would take the

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<v Speaker 2>risk just as a fan because I love this group

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<v Speaker 2>so much. That's one of the things that really hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been talked about a lot, and it's not really been

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<v Speaker 2>on my mind because you know, I'm living in the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying this team and everything that's come with this awesome season.

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<v Speaker 3>But that is sort of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Kicker to where like if they end up losing to Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they lose in the round of thirty two,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll still love these guys.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing that could change that. This season's been awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>It couldn't have been really much better.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, even though if you throw this scenario at somebody

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago, nobody believe you, no matter who the

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<v Speaker 2>coach was, honestly, and they probably would have believed you

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<v Speaker 2>less at the time when they found that it was

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey. Just to be real at that time, so

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<v Speaker 2>to not ever get them to not ever have another

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<v Speaker 2>chance to see them go against one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>when one we would embrace that challenge, that opportunity, at

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<v Speaker 2>least we would as a fan base, That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have no clue what's gonna happen. It's not like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you give me Duke, we'll beat them down. I hope so,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know. Again, they're good. I think they've

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<v Speaker 2>got a legitimate chance to win this whole thing. One

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<v Speaker 2>of very few teams I would say that about. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, knowing that it could potentially be bad doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>keep me in any way from being, you know, super

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<v Speaker 2>excited about the opportunity. If, of course the opportunity is there,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to get to the championship game. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Doorks Duke's gonna have to win as well. But I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they just kind of said like if they never

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<v Speaker 2>get a chance to really get a big test, and look,

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<v Speaker 2>they've been tested by teams that we know aren't very good.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also think part of that's just the human

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<v Speaker 2>element of sports to where not that they're out there complacent,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've never been complacent enough to where it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>cost them a game. So now I'm kind of thinking, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>help bring them on. Let's hope that they get Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>just because man, I don't want to. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>this thing to end with this great special group that

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<v Speaker 2>I love watching play with me not having another opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to see them really go up against one.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the best.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, if they get past Duke somehow and pull

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<v Speaker 2>off that upset and they still lose early in the tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>that would suck, and you'd feel like even more under

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<v Speaker 2>You feel underwhelmed more so just because you're thinking, how

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<v Speaker 2>can we beat Duke on a neutral court, which wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be neutral. You'd be in Charlotte, and yet we lose

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<v Speaker 2>in the round of thirty two to some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to a five seed or something, whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean again, that would feel like, man, we should

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<v Speaker 2>have won because again we beat Duke. But oh, either way,

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<v Speaker 2>like you'll use your brain like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>do when the emotion wears off, and you'll realize, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah we fell short. But man, like I feel not

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<v Speaker 2>that anybody needs it, because I'm sure fans aren't even

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<v Speaker 2>really thinking about it. But if you are somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>does sort of seek validation that this team is as

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<v Speaker 2>good as you believe they are, are an early loss

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<v Speaker 2>in the tournament, the big dance wouldn't be as would

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<v Speaker 2>not would not steer me away from being confident in

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<v Speaker 2>this group and feeling good about them if I knew

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<v Speaker 2>that they got passed to because I think that good

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<v Speaker 2>about I think that I think Duke's that good. So

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even do it to make a joke, but

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<v Speaker 2>I did slip up there and almost said dork instead

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<v Speaker 2>of Duke, and it kind of is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>same and flowed well, yeah, it would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have flowed very well.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got a real dork running their social media account.

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<v Speaker 2>Which it's not John Shire. There's no way because it's

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<v Speaker 2>just not I mean, it would be it would be

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<v Speaker 2>weird if he wanted to manage the social media accounts

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<v Speaker 2>of DO Basketball. He's the head coach, but you would

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<v Speaker 2>think that he has say so and what is being

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<v Speaker 2>put out there because look, that's an extension of him.

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<v Speaker 2>He represents the program. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. That's how a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people get all their information. They're glued to

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<v Speaker 2>their phones, right, So you're using that as a vehicle

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, show people what you're about. Not only

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sharing highlights and sharing stats, information on your team,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff, but you know, just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, using that platform to better connect and really

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<v Speaker 2>express who you are as a program. And again, it

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<v Speaker 2>all starts with the guy running the show, which is

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<v Speaker 2>John Shire. So to see, after Pat Kelsey was named

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<v Speaker 2>ACC Coach of the Year yesterday, Duke already have a

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<v Speaker 2>full prepared batch of content highlighting all of Shire's accomplishments

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<v Speaker 2>and all of Duke's accomplishments. And then you know doing

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<v Speaker 2>the I'm not really I'm not really bothered by it

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, it's about as surprising as all the

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<v Speaker 2>years coach Cay didn't win it, but by going through

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<v Speaker 2>all the effort that you went through and doing something

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<v Speaker 2>that nobody does using the official team accounts to put

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff out there, you very much blatantly put it

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<v Speaker 2>on your forehead.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It might as well be on Shire's forehead because they'reagging

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<v Speaker 2>him in it, which I cannot believe he's getting tagged

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<v Speaker 2>in this without him either one being the guy that's

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<v Speaker 2>like wanting them to do this for his ego or

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<v Speaker 2>his insecurity, whatever it may be, or clearly being okay with.

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<v Speaker 3>It, like a lot of people have said, is it

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<v Speaker 3>still up? Is it still up? That speaks to like

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<v Speaker 3>how everybody's aware that this is just.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a normal thing for an official account on social

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<v Speaker 2>media to just be boohoo in about an award that

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, the other guy won because he was

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<v Speaker 2>more qualified for what the award? Is it really the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they look at it as like a disrespect

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<v Speaker 2>to Shier God, it speaks to insecurity that I never

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<v Speaker 2>knew Duke had because you know, Duke's Duke.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you just kind of let that brand speak for itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and honestly, somebody else made this one

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<v Speaker 2>on the text line, because everybody just kind of knows

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<v Speaker 2>what this award is. And again I'm not gonna act

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<v Speaker 2>like it just goes to code like it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>backhanded compliment, because I saw some big blue bozos saying

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<v Speaker 2>that yesterday on on on Twitter, you know, because a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people getting in the weeds here to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like look at Duke and think like why would

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<v Speaker 2>they put this out from their official account? And there

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<v Speaker 2>was somebody on there might have been that dressed and

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<v Speaker 2>roland guy who works for Rivals, and he acted like

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<v Speaker 2>it's really a backhanded compliment because they're telling you that

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't think you were any good and you you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you did a little better than they expected, and like

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<v Speaker 2>that that's like the most like obvious way you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be like indirect but man, like you're bothered as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But Kelsey won it because.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't be able to hide your big blue boner

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<v Speaker 2>if your boy Pope went SEC Coach of the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'm right, and look, you should always

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, like it's just odd for them to be

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<v Speaker 2>that bothered by it. But again, Kelsey, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sounding like the ultimate Homer here and look for

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey. I'll be honest with you. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>am the ultimate Homer. I think I could be fair,

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<v Speaker 2>I can be honest, but clearly I'm a fan like

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else has been. This has been awesome. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I could ever be mad at this team. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how much I appreciate them bringing us back to life.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, with all that said, when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at how good Louisville was this year, and look right now,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't determine if the twenty five and six record

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<v Speaker 2>is as good as we think it is, because again

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<v Speaker 2>they've only been playing acc teams. But this is a

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<v Speaker 2>regular season award. You can't wait until the postseason to

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<v Speaker 2>then determine. Okay, was there twenty five and six as

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<v Speaker 2>good as it looked on paper?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Like, you can't do that. So Louisville is a

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<v Speaker 2>And sixteen, that's top fifteen in the AP pole, in

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<v Speaker 2>the Coach's poll, and they were projected by everybody to

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<v Speaker 2>be one of the worst teams in a bad league.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they were picked like ninth and eleventh by

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<v Speaker 2>different people who voted, and they finished one game out

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<v Speaker 2>of first place. So I mean, I don't really think

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<v Speaker 2>you know, no matter how you want to look at

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<v Speaker 2>the award, if you understand it, it's both right, a

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<v Speaker 2>good coach who coached a team that had success and

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<v Speaker 2>was good, but also you believe that that success for

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<v Speaker 2>the team, the biggest factor was more so because of

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<v Speaker 2>the coaching than anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how you give this award out. That's just that's

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<v Speaker 3>the way it mostly is.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if Kelsey would have been, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>instead of eighteen and two, let's say he was thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>and seven, that still would have been good. That still

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<v Speaker 2>would have been a good sign for Louisville. And at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, I think it might have been more of okay,

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<v Speaker 2>were they good enough? Like if they were thirteen and

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<v Speaker 2>seven but not in the tournament safely and they had

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<v Speaker 2>some really bad losses to the terrible teams, then you

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<v Speaker 2>could certainly make the case that Shire would be more deserving.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, when you've got somebody who did finish one

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<v Speaker 2>game behind you, and he doesn't have three top ten

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<v Speaker 2>NBA picks, you believe that his coaching and what he's

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<v Speaker 2>been able to work with was a real factor in

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<v Speaker 2>them being eighteen and two. You were nineteen and one

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<v Speaker 2>and probably should have been undefeated. You probably shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>lost anybody in this league because you know, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I just I can't imagine, like Duke's a

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<v Speaker 2>very weird program in general. And I don't mean that

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<v Speaker 2>as an insult, although I've insulted in plenty today. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying, like, you know, they're like they're weird, like

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<v Speaker 2>they they they're a small school. They don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>huge fan base in their own area. I mean they

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<v Speaker 2>just don't. I mean they have some. They clearly have

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<v Speaker 2>a big student section that actually it's not that big,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with this, the tiny gym. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's a tiny student section, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 3>So in being in.

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<v Speaker 2>Durham, like Duke is kind of you know, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that Duke is there as far as the university, but

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of their alone don't live in that area.

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<v Speaker 2>They live in like the Northeast or you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kids who grew up in Carolina. Seemingly a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>them go to NC State or UNC. They don't go

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<v Speaker 2>to Duke. I mean some of them probably do. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like nobody does, but you know, they to me,

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<v Speaker 2>they would have like they they are actually a program

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<v Speaker 2>that I think would genuinely have a tough time with

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<v Speaker 2>some self awareness because they're not really like they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the like their generation of fans is different than

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<v Speaker 2>most because I mean, let's be real, Duke is coach K.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And now they've extended the coach K lifeline here with

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<v Speaker 2>one of his former players, and Shire is a good coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Shire may be really successful long term. I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>shocked at all. But like they're like, Duke is coach K.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all you have. Like there's no I mean, not

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<v Speaker 2>only is he the only coach has been successful, Like

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<v Speaker 2>he's really been the only coach like you've ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's other programs like Bobby Knight. He's the only

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<v Speaker 2>guy that's been successful at Indiana, but there have been

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of other guys that have done it, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, So like there's generations it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I just to me, the more I

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, they would be a program that I

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<v Speaker 2>think wouldn't you know, maybe someone will say they just

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. Maybe that's the case, or they wouldn't even realize, Like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's a bad look. Because even if you

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way, is if your guys should should have

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<v Speaker 2>won it? Whoever believed, Like imagine the arrogance or the

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<v Speaker 2>lack of awareness, maybe a little bit of both to

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<v Speaker 2>not realize that, like this was going to end poorly.

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<v Speaker 2>You want the conversation to shift to Shire got robbed,

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<v Speaker 2>he got snubbed. Look at all these accomplishments. How could

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<v Speaker 2>he not win it? You thought that was gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>the takeaway. No, the conversation is actually, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the toxic wasteland that is the Internet, it's not no

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<v Speaker 2>longer about Shire or not winning it. It's not even

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<v Speaker 2>about Pat Kelsey winning it. It's about how odd and

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<v Speaker 2>just weird of a look it was for Duke to

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<v Speaker 2>have social media content created to go online and fill

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<v Speaker 2>up their diaper about Shy or not winning it. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if Shire was just un like bothered because he's a competitor,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I actually respect that because I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, your competitor, you want to win. But like

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<v Speaker 3>if he's wanting.

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<v Speaker 2>People to like, Like, put this way, if Shier's really

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<v Speaker 2>that bothered by it, I would have more respect for

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<v Speaker 2>it if he just came out and said it as

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<v Speaker 2>press conference that he feels like he should have got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure it would have been a people would have probably

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<v Speaker 2>made fun of him, but like, at least that had

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<v Speaker 2>been respectable. But like, and that's why I have a

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<v Speaker 2>heart time thinking that he's actually orchestrating this. But I

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<v Speaker 2>also have a hard time thinking that he's not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>supportive enough for them to continue to do it. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know how this kind of stuff works. As

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<v Speaker 2>far as just what these accounts are like on social media,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably said the same thing that I just mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>a moment ago, Like people are asking they haven't taken

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<v Speaker 2>that down yet, cause again it's just what's the risk

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<v Speaker 2>reward there? You just look bitter, and who who looks

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<v Speaker 2>good and bitter? Nobody I want to I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to wear bitterness ever.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, not only that, because they were obviously kind of

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<v Speaker 4>complaining and salty about the about the PKACC Coach of

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<v Speaker 4>the Year, But did you see the posts that they

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<v Speaker 4>wrote about I guess one of their players not winning

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<v Speaker 4>the defensive way.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Flag who didn't get it. So yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad you brought that up. I forgot to mention that

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<v Speaker 2>one earlier and I did not read that one on

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<v Speaker 2>the air. But yes, they sent out and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>again that that speaks to they just knew that they're

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<v Speaker 2>doubling down well. And what's crazy is that Cooper Flag

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<v Speaker 2>won Player of the Year and Freshmen of the Year

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean defensive player. I mean again, like he's

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<v Speaker 2>good in every aspect, but like I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>mean again, he's good.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a good defender.

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<v Speaker 2>But for them to just I don't know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>more so arrogance than anything else, I guess sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're so.

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<v Speaker 2>Arrogant that they probably like they're a program that I

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<v Speaker 2>and they're Look, they're Duke. They are. They're one of

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger brands you'll find. But they probably are the

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<v Speaker 2>only or one of the only ACC. They're the only

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<v Speaker 2>ACC team that doesn't care about this for their own reason,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think other teams, other teams in the league

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<v Speaker 2>don't care if the ACC stinks because they just don't.

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<v Speaker 3>They've never been good at basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>They know they got to look in the mirror when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the league, stinking right, because they're a

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<v Speaker 2>big factor now. Louisville, of course was that for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years, but I think everybody knew eventually loisll

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna try to make some changes because they're not

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<v Speaker 2>content with not being good in basketball. So everybody in

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<v Speaker 2>the league, for the most part, I think wants the

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<v Speaker 2>league to be better because it's better for everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet Duke didn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet Duke would be fine if everybody's stunk, because

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<v Speaker 2>they're kind of in their own world, right, Like they're

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<v Speaker 2>always gonna get brand bumped because they're Duke, and the

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<v Speaker 2>only way they could ever eventually, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe they do want those opportunities because to get

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<v Speaker 2>wins because they don't like the narrative. But Duke's the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of program that doesn't care about the narrative. Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the Duke. Duke, to me, is not one

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<v Speaker 2>that would be bothered or even maybe even know that

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<v Speaker 2>people are calling them the new Gonzaga.

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<v Speaker 3>Right man, You're you look really good.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a lot of talent, But for two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half months you didn't get challenged when you get

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<v Speaker 2>to the round of thirty two, it's gonna be wake

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<v Speaker 2>up Tom. Just like Gonzaga when they lose to teams,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, early in the earlier in the tournament than

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<v Speaker 2>most would expect. And it's maybe not because they're not

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<v Speaker 2>as good as you thought they were, but they hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>had a test like that in three months. So like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Duke doesn't care about that, because again they're Duke.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just in their own world and they're just different

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<v Speaker 2>and weird. But them wanting all the wards, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one thing to fight for your guy in campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>for your coach or player because you want them to

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<v Speaker 2>have the best because it's good for you and for them.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean the more so that they are just

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<v Speaker 2>thinking like they're kind of you know, the the official

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<v Speaker 2>program account thinking that they not only because by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's put in this perspective, Austin, they have

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<v Speaker 2>the league by itself, they won by themselves, they have

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<v Speaker 2>the Player of the Year, the Freshmen of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>and they that's not good enough to where they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>complaining that they also didn't collect defensive player of the

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<v Speaker 2>Year and Coach of the Year. So it cleans if

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<v Speaker 2>there's somebody that wants to, you know, give the impression

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<v Speaker 2>that everybody's wrong about the ACC, which that'd be a

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<v Speaker 2>tough thing to lie to even yourself about, because we

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<v Speaker 2>all know the league is down. But like you using

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<v Speaker 2>your platform here your I mean, this is how you

422
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<v Speaker 2>reach fans this day. By the way, it's the quickest

423
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<v Speaker 2>way to reach your fans is to send out a

424
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<v Speaker 2>tweet or an Instagram post or something like that. Right,

425
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<v Speaker 2>So they're using that the official voice, essentially the official

426
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<v Speaker 2>extension of their program, to say we need all the

427
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<v Speaker 2>awards because everybody else in this league stinks and it's

428
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<v Speaker 2>a travesty.

429
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<v Speaker 3>What do they call it?

430
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<v Speaker 2>With the you know, a snub, yes, or you know,

431
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<v Speaker 2>this is what they said about the defensive Player of

432
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<v Speaker 2>the Year. It shows an old computer, like an old

433
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<v Speaker 2>computer from like, you know, pre internet computer. Yeah, it

434
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<v Speaker 2>says a friend asked, with all due respect to the

435
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<v Speaker 2>great defenders across the league, if this was the computer

436
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<v Speaker 2>used to compile stats research for ACC Defensive Player of

437
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<v Speaker 2>the Year consideration this year. So, I mean, you're like

438
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<v Speaker 2>they're bothered by Chucky and Pat Kelsey. And here's what's crazy.

439
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<v Speaker 2>Duke is better than Louis. Dou beat him when they

440
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<v Speaker 2>came here, and Duke will probably beat him if they

441
00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:47.319
<v Speaker 2>play him again. I mean, crazier things have happened, but

442
00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:50.599
<v Speaker 2>let's just be real. But like they're thinking about Pat Kelsey,

443
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<v Speaker 2>they're thinking about Chucky Hepburn, and it's one thing to

444
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just think the unawareness to know that

445
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<v Speaker 2>you look jealou peanut butter and jealous. It's just weird

446
00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:06.599
<v Speaker 2>because again, you could you could have that feeling and

447
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<v Speaker 2>keep it to yourself and like that's the best way

448
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<v Speaker 2>to go about it, because that's how the majority of

449
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<v Speaker 2>society is. But for you to want to wear publicly

450
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<v Speaker 2>your jealousness is just so unusual. All right, Before we

451
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<v Speaker 2>get to our next break, I do want to mention

452
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<v Speaker 2>there's there's clearly some some some awful news from today

453
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<v Speaker 2>that I still have yet to see any official update.

454
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<v Speaker 3>However, earlier today Louisville Louisville legend.

455
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's a legendary basketball player here and also

456
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<v Speaker 2>with the Milwaukee Bucks and obviously a very successful businessman.

457
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<v Speaker 2>And I don't need to give anybody any any introduction

458
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<v Speaker 2>who Junior Bridgeman is. But he suffered a medical emergency.

459
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<v Speaker 2>Earlier today when he was at an event at the

460
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<v Speaker 2>Gold House speaking, He's actually being interviewed by wk wise

461
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<v Speaker 2>Kent Taylor, and while being interviewed in front of one

462
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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of people in attendance at this event, he had

463
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<v Speaker 2>a medical emergency and you could hear him say to

464
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<v Speaker 2>Kent that he believed he was having a heart attack.

465
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<v Speaker 2>So he was taken away in an ambulance and went

466
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<v Speaker 2>to the hospital. And again, I've not seen any update

467
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<v Speaker 2>since earlier today as far as an official update. Now obviously, uh,

468
00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:11.680
<v Speaker 2>there there are you know, there are people out there

469
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<v Speaker 2>giving their own update, and I'm not doing that because

470
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<v Speaker 2>that's irresponsible and I don't know, and I wouldn't even

471
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have no I have no update on

472
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<v Speaker 2>my end, and I'm sure if you look, you'll see

473
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<v Speaker 2>others claiming this and that, and maybe they're right. I

474
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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but that the latest we know is that

475
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<v Speaker 2>that he's he suffered a medical emergency, and I don't know.

476
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<v Speaker 2>I just I'm kind of grossed out by people who

477
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<v Speaker 2>are just assuming that because of like prayers needed posts

478
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<v Speaker 2>being sent out by former players, Like there's people that

479
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<v Speaker 2>I know have no access to Junior Bridgeman or people

480
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<v Speaker 2>within his world that are that are posting that he's

481
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<v Speaker 2>passed and it's probably just like a safe guest because

482
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<v Speaker 2>you want to look like you are breaking that kind

483
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<v Speaker 2>of news. I mean, I don't believe many people are

484
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<v Speaker 2>out here putting it out the and out of no

485
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<v Speaker 2>clue that's even true or not. But like I don't know,

486
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<v Speaker 2>just if somebody came in here and told me this

487
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<v Speaker 2>big news that someone passed away, I would feel uncomfortable

488
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<v Speaker 2>share breaking. And it's just you know, that's not my job.

489
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<v Speaker 2>That's news, right, that's not this And the amount of

490
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<v Speaker 2>people that just rush to social media in today's society

491
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<v Speaker 2>to put out something that they know they have no

492
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<v Speaker 2>way of confirming, and even if they feel like it

493
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<v Speaker 2>may end up being right, because there's enough noise out

494
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<v Speaker 2>there about it that it's probably true. Like if it

495
00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:32.759
<v Speaker 2>ended up not being true, like I don't know, that's

496
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<v Speaker 2>just where we are, Like nobody even thinks about things

497
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<v Speaker 2>the same way anymore. But imagine like putting something out

498
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<v Speaker 2>there like that, knowing that you didn't know for sure,

499
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<v Speaker 2>and then just like okay, good, what was wrong?

500
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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

501
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<v Speaker 2>Well, you probably imagine somebody seeing that who you know

502
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<v Speaker 2>found out that way from a rando. It's just disrespectful

503
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<v Speaker 2>to like break.

504
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<v Speaker 3>News of anybody losing their life or anything.

505
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<v Speaker 2>I just, you know, it's one thing to share things

506
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<v Speaker 2>after the fact, but I cannot imagine being somebody of

507
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<v Speaker 2>finding out trad information about somebody that they love and

508
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<v Speaker 2>they care about like that.

509
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's no good way to get it. But

510
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, anyways, we'll get to a break.

511
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<v Speaker 2>If there is an update, I'll be sure to let

512
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<v Speaker 2>you guys know, but I'm not going to put anything

513
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<v Speaker 2>out there until it's official from those who you know

514
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<v Speaker 2>do this for a living, that you know are are

515
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<v Speaker 2>are well aware of a standard in a line you

516
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<v Speaker 2>don't cross when it comes to sharing legitimate news that

517
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<v Speaker 2>could be, you know, something as serious as loss of life.

518
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<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break, coffee and company. Feel abou Thorton's

519
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<v Speaker 2>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

520
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company. Fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

522
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's unfair to say that currently the

523
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<v Speaker 2>Louisville and Kentucky football programs appear to have different paths

524
00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:51.880
<v Speaker 2>momentum clearly going in one direction for Louisville and the

525
00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:55.200
<v Speaker 2>other direction for Kentucky, and you know, maybe maybe that

526
00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:57.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's a big change.

527
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<v Speaker 3>After this year.

528
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<v Speaker 2>But obviously Louisville coming on off a couple of really

529
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<v Speaker 2>good seasons with brom. Even when Louisville did lose to Kentucky,

530
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<v Speaker 2>I mean that was an upset and you know, that's

531
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<v Speaker 2>the best win Stoops has ever had on the road,

532
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<v Speaker 2>is it not. I mean, I don't know how good

533
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<v Speaker 2>Louisville actually was overall. I mean, clearly they were good.

534
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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, I mean, Kentucky has he fell apart last

535
00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:20.279
<v Speaker 2>year and I don't really see a scenario where they should.

536
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<v Speaker 2>They could be much better because the schedule is going

537
00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:24.119
<v Speaker 2>to be even tougher, if you can believe it. And

538
00:23:24.160 --> 00:23:26.039
<v Speaker 2>then I mean a lot of players who might have

539
00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:29.200
<v Speaker 2>been you know, locker room issues and just guys you

540
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<v Speaker 2>probably needed to get rid of for one reason or another.

541
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<v Speaker 2>They were still talented to an extent, and that's not

542
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<v Speaker 2>the end all be alright, Sometimes you don't need just talent.

543
00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:39.119
<v Speaker 2>You need guys who do the right things. And you

544
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<v Speaker 2>know it's not just about that. But with all that said,

545
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<v Speaker 2>you know, Mark Stoops, I feel like one thing that

546
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<v Speaker 2>he has always been able to do really well until

547
00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:54.000
<v Speaker 2>recently was really just even if he's not having success,

548
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<v Speaker 2>even when he wasn't good and they I mean when

549
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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean like really good, I mean like even

550
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<v Speaker 2>when he wasn't going to bowl games, I think he

551
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<v Speaker 2>would talk to fans and they would find him real, relatable, likable,

552
00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:06.440
<v Speaker 2>and that could buy him a lot. And then of course,

553
00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:09.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, expectations got lifted a little bit higher. They

554
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<v Speaker 2>started winning, and he got a lot of money, and

555
00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:13.359
<v Speaker 2>then he started making comments about.

556
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<v Speaker 3>Ponying up and you know, just you know, it just seems.

557
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<v Speaker 2>As if last year was a real bad year for

558
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<v Speaker 2>for for Mark Stoops all the way around. But today

559
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<v Speaker 2>he went on with KSR and I haven't got a

560
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<v Speaker 2>chance to listen to it, but I would imagine that

561
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<v Speaker 2>he probably was aware that, hey, you know, as much

562
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<v Speaker 2>as I do think these fans should appreciate me, because

563
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<v Speaker 2>I you know, they're not where they used to be,

564
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.519
<v Speaker 2>and now that I'm here, you know, you gotta you

565
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<v Speaker 2>gotta sell. I mean, if there's if there's anybody that

566
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<v Speaker 2>that could be able to get fans excited interested more

567
00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:48.440
<v Speaker 2>so than maybe they anticipated despite their.

568
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<v Speaker 3>Being really no.

569
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think they're going to have anything

570
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:57.000
<v Speaker 2>on the roster on paper by the time the season

571
00:24:57.039 --> 00:24:59.559
<v Speaker 2>starts for this fan base to genuinely believe that they're

572
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<v Speaker 2>going to be a decent team, just because again they

573
00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:05.599
<v Speaker 2>lost good players and they did all right in the portal,

574
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<v Speaker 2>I suppose, But I mean, I just think you I understand,

575
00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:11.039
<v Speaker 2>if you're a Kentucky fan, why you wanted Stoops to

576
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<v Speaker 2>potentially be shown the exit last year, not because you

577
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<v Speaker 2>think he's terrible, but because you just feel like it's

578
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:17.599
<v Speaker 2>run its course. And I think you're you're you know,

579
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:19.920
<v Speaker 2>you're probably right in that in that regard. So anyways,

580
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<v Speaker 2>what I'm getting at is, if there was somebody that

581
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<v Speaker 2>could do it, it would be the head coach, right. And

582
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying like it's an easy thing to do,

583
00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:28.119
<v Speaker 2>but you know, if you hear your head coach talking

584
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<v Speaker 2>and you remind yourself how much you like him and

585
00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:32.880
<v Speaker 2>that he has been successful at times, and that you

586
00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:35.720
<v Speaker 2>know he's right he does, you know, you know he's

587
00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:38.039
<v Speaker 2>the guy. You may be wrong, he may get to

588
00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.079
<v Speaker 2>next season and win fewer games, but you gotta at

589
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:42.880
<v Speaker 2>least try. And I know Matt has talked about it

590
00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 2>on KSR a couple of times since the season ended

591
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<v Speaker 2>that Stops really never had any kind of like you know,

592
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:52.880
<v Speaker 2>State of the Union press conference or interview to kind of,

593
00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, discuss how bad they were, and that really

594
00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:59.079
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have I mean, there's nothing you could say that's

595
00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:02.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna change how bad they were. However, you know, you

596
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:04.680
<v Speaker 2>got it, You got to say something, because then what

597
00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.920
<v Speaker 2>happens is people just assume that you're content and you're

598
00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:09.640
<v Speaker 2>not that bothered by it if you're not gonna address

599
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:11.759
<v Speaker 2>it with us, and then you also run the risk of,

600
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:15.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, when you're not out there leading your program

601
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:17.759
<v Speaker 2>and being transparent as much as you you almost now

602
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:21.279
<v Speaker 2>have a responsibility and used to have, because you can't

603
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:24.400
<v Speaker 2>if you just sit back and never do interviews, never talk,

604
00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:25.519
<v Speaker 2>never acknowledge anything.

605
00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:26.880
<v Speaker 3>You just stay completely private.

606
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you run the risk of other people talking

607
00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.720
<v Speaker 2>and speculating because I mean, like, for example, when things

608
00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:35.839
<v Speaker 2>are going really bad, that's when speculation starts, and you

609
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:38.240
<v Speaker 2>have to balance it by you know, knowing that there's

610
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:40.200
<v Speaker 2>no words that's gonna change it. But just sitting back

611
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:43.599
<v Speaker 2>and ignoring things leads it to where people run with

612
00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:46.359
<v Speaker 2>different narratives and you can't control it. At that point,

613
00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:49.839
<v Speaker 2>people are gonna believe they wan't believe. So he did

614
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<v Speaker 2>talk today, and I don't Again, I didn't hear the

615
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:53.000
<v Speaker 2>whole thing, but I do know that he talked about

616
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<v Speaker 2>wanting to keep the Louisville game. If the SEC goes

617
00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:59.359
<v Speaker 2>to nine. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen, but you know,

618
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:02.119
<v Speaker 2>he did acknowledge that it's going to be tough. But

619
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think he's aware. And again, this is

620
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<v Speaker 2>what made no sense at all when it comes to

621
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<v Speaker 2>the talk of like losing that like eliminating the game.

622
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:16.559
<v Speaker 2>It would give Kentucky a chance at a guaranteed win,

623
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<v Speaker 2>and it would give them and it would give them

624
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 2>a sure thing every year where they have a certain

625
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 2>amount of home games, because when you when you do

626
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:26.799
<v Speaker 2>a home and home in a non conference game, you

627
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:28.359
<v Speaker 2>know one year you're gonna be at home, the next

628
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:31.759
<v Speaker 2>year you're gonna be on the road, and you having

629
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<v Speaker 2>that every other year game on the road keeps you

630
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>from being able to open up your gates on a

631
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<v Speaker 2>Saturday and make a lot of money. That's a that's

632
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 2>a money maker for these programs. So and money's always mattered.

633
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 2>But now when you've got that twenty million dollar bill,

634
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you got to pay out to student athletes. Because you're

635
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.400
<v Speaker 2>sharing revenue, you're gonna do everything you can to bring

636
00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:50.440
<v Speaker 2>in as much money and get creative in ways, and

637
00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:51.920
<v Speaker 2>you know cut costs that kind of stuff.

638
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 3>So you know it makes sense from that aspect. But

639
00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.519
<v Speaker 3>who individually.

640
00:27:57.759 --> 00:27:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Stands to gain iflllo of Thelle can tell you don't

641
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:03.960
<v Speaker 2>play each other in FOOTB No. One because Kentucky fans

642
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>don't want the series to end, Louisville doesn't want the

643
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.359
<v Speaker 2>series to end. We all know deep down, if we're

644
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:12.240
<v Speaker 2>going to be honest with ourselves, that we put more

645
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.839
<v Speaker 2>value on it than we probably even realize in the

646
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 2>moment because we're not elite programs when it comes to football.

647
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:20.839
<v Speaker 2>Maybe now with the twelve team playoff, that one of

648
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 2>these teams could sneak in. I mean, Louisville could get

649
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:24.839
<v Speaker 2>there in the ACC with Kentucky. It's gonna be tough

650
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:26.720
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC, but there's a path, right, I mean

651
00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:31.200
<v Speaker 2>they put twelve teams in now, so we can look

652
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>at seven and five, eight and four, maybe even nine

653
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:35.440
<v Speaker 2>in three and know that if we got left out

654
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 2>of the playoff with there's twelve teams going, Beating your

655
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:44.799
<v Speaker 2>rival is really going to be a chance to either

656
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.279
<v Speaker 2>validate your good season or maybe you know, think, well,

657
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.160
<v Speaker 2>not only do we fall short of the playoff, we

658
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 2>freaking lost to Kentucky, or we lost to Louisville. So

659
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, rivalries are what makes sports great, and there's

660
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 2>just you know, and Mark stubes he's not scared at Louisville.

661
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:01.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe he will be down the line, And

662
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:03.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't even really say that seriously, because I don't

663
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.599
<v Speaker 2>think he's scared, but like he should know more than

664
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 2>anybody how valuable that win can be to his fan base,

665
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.839
<v Speaker 2>because I think the majority of Mark Stoop's big, you know,

666
00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:17.079
<v Speaker 2>big deposits he's made to Big Blue.

667
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Nation is beaten Louisville.

668
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>And in football, I mean not to say he hasn't done

669
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>other things that have been good for Kentucky's standard for

670
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>over you know, forever, they've never been a big They've

671
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>never been good in football really and now they at least,

672
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, for the most part, during the bulk of

673
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>his tenure, they've been solid and more than anything that

674
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:35.039
<v Speaker 2>just I mean, they used to be the doormat of

675
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:36.839
<v Speaker 2>their league and now I mean they were that this

676
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.799
<v Speaker 2>past year, but I mean overall, they're now at least

677
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>consistently not having losing seasons other than this past year,

678
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:45.599
<v Speaker 2>and that's a big step for them. So, you know,

679
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:49.400
<v Speaker 2>if he's doing that, Kentucky already feels like, man, this

680
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:50.880
<v Speaker 2>is a lot better than we were when we were

681
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>irrelevant and terrible for decades. But now if he's beaten Louisville,

682
00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 2>then like, you know, not to say that, you just

683
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:01.279
<v Speaker 2>want to end it and you don't need any other

684
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 2>success because you're you.

685
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:03.559
<v Speaker 3>Know, you're as happy as can be.

686
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:05.680
<v Speaker 2>But like we look and I have no problem admitting it,

687
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Louisville beating Kentucky, even when they stink, it means more.

688
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:11.519
<v Speaker 2>It feels better than beating anybody else because you know

689
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.599
<v Speaker 2>it's your rival. Now, last year it was a little

690
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:15.359
<v Speaker 2>bit different because you just had to get the cup back.

691
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Like there was no sing, like it was just it

692
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 2>was really just a it's almost like an operation. Go

693
00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:23.599
<v Speaker 2>up to Lexington and you know, ran sack on while

694
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>they're terrible and the worst team in their own crappy league.

695
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, go just go go take what's yours, and

696
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, throw a few punches on your way out,

697
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>like that's kind of what it was, because it wasn't

698
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:37.640
<v Speaker 2>really a game it was and in a weird way,

699
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Louisville actually could have won by double the amount it

700
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:41.480
<v Speaker 2>seemed like.

701
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:46.839
<v Speaker 3>But anyways, we'll see what happens. Money matters. Stoops.

702
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's just saying this because you know, he thinks

703
00:30:49.200 --> 00:30:51.200
<v Speaker 2>it's what fans want to hear. But deep down, that's

704
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>why I've always just been kind of perplexed by the

705
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Speaker 2>whole conversation, because again from the monetary thing, like it

706
00:30:57.680 --> 00:30:59.559
<v Speaker 2>makes sense that you would want to make sure you're

707
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:01.720
<v Speaker 2>doing your best to make sure your bank account's looking

708
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>good because you've got to pay players now, and you know,

709
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>you've just got to be prepared. But also, I mean,

710
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 2>that's the only way that you would ever make sense.

711
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.519
<v Speaker 2>And everybody else that has, like say so in the

712
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>said in the decision to do it would benefit by

713
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:19.359
<v Speaker 2>the game continuing to be played. And would you know,

714
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.440
<v Speaker 2>everybody's going to be upset if he gets canceled. And

715
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>here's the facts. If it does, the fingers are going

716
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>to be pointed towards Mark Stoops and Mitch Barnhart, like

717
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Barnhart's the guy who you know, I guess directly would

718
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 2>be who people think that it's about. But Mark Stoops

719
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>gets whatever he wants from Mitch Barnot. That's been clear

720
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:38.680
<v Speaker 2>for years now. Look at how many different contracts this

721
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:40.880
<v Speaker 2>guy's got and that most wouldn't get. I mean, he

722
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.799
<v Speaker 2>can get whatever he wants, So it would be rich

723
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:48.839
<v Speaker 2>if if it ends up getting canceled and Stoops like

724
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 2>tries to act like he had no.

725
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Control, Come on, you want to play the game.

726
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:54.000
<v Speaker 2>The game will be played. That's what it comes down to.

727
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>A right quick break will wrap it up on the

728
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:58.200
<v Speaker 2>other side. Stick around right here on Sports Talk seven.

729
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<v Speaker 1>Ninety now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

730
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731
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<v Speaker 2>So with fourteen minutes left in the second half, cal

732
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>is up three on Virginia Tech thirty nine, thirty six,

733
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>and again the winner of that game will play tomorrow

734
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>against Stanford, and then the winner there will be Louisville's

735
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>first opponent in the first ever postseason game with the

736
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Pack Hills here and it's nice to have that not

737
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:25.920
<v Speaker 2>be today, you know, the day of shame.

738
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 3>It's a good place to be no doubt.

739
00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 2>All right, So looking at tonight's matchups again, it's it's

740
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>not a day where you've got a lot of great

741
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 2>teams playing, although you know, not elite teams by any means,

742
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 2>but some of these teams playing today and even some

743
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.880
<v Speaker 2>teams that played last night could be some teams that

744
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:47.359
<v Speaker 2>maybe you know, play the role of Cinderella this year.

745
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>But you've got more ACC games later today this evening,

746
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.359
<v Speaker 2>i should say. And then also the Big twelve tournament

747
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 2>started today as well. Oklahoma State, I'm not sure, I

748
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:00.519
<v Speaker 2>don't remember who it was they played, but they lost

749
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.279
<v Speaker 2>earlier meeting their seasons over and then you've got Arizona

750
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>State Kansas tonight. The rest of the SEC games are

751
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:11.960
<v Speaker 2>you got Custon Florida State at seven, and then at

752
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:17.759
<v Speaker 2>nine you've got here's the other ACC game or maybe

753
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 2>they are they only doing three? Yeah?

754
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:22.599
<v Speaker 3>Maybe there, Yeah, there's only looks.

755
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Like there's only one more game in the ACC after

756
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>this one here, and that's that's QS n FSU the

757
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.119
<v Speaker 2>rest of the matchups here. I mean, again, I won't

758
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 2>sell this as if oh you better tune in because

759
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:36.920
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna miss out, But you know you and c

760
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Wilmington and Delaware played tonight in the CAAA championship game.

761
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.240
<v Speaker 2>You see Wilmington knocked off Charleston last night. Chris Max

762
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.839
<v Speaker 2>team I had a close one that they just fell

763
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>short at the very end.

764
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:47.759
<v Speaker 3>Delaware though upset.

765
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:49.839
<v Speaker 2>I believe it was Towson who was the winner of

766
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:51.799
<v Speaker 2>the league in the regular season. So now the Delaware

767
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Blue Hens they could play Cinderella in their own league,

768
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 2>which I like that league. I mean, I don't know why,

769
00:33:57.319 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>but I've always I've always found myself kind of appreciated

770
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.279
<v Speaker 2>that level of hoops. Not to say that it's like elite,

771
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:04.359
<v Speaker 2>but you know, there's something and I can't explain it,

772
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:06.279
<v Speaker 2>but like the Missouri Valley they already had their conference

773
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:09.400
<v Speaker 2>tournament and Drake won that one earlier. In fact, it

774
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>was on Sunday. But that's a league that were reasons

775
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 2>I can't really explain. I just you know, I have

776
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.599
<v Speaker 2>an appreciation for one because like they care a lot

777
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.519
<v Speaker 2>about basketball despite being really small schools. So some other

778
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>conference games tonight, as far as the championship games. In fact,

779
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>there will be some tickets punched tonight.

780
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:28.039
<v Speaker 3>It'll be.

781
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Youngstown State and Robert Morris so Youngstown State is led

782
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:38.360
<v Speaker 2>by a Kentucky native, a twin one of the Faulkner brothers.

783
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 2>I can't always get a mixed up, but they played

784
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>high school basketball at Eastern Kentucky and went on to

785
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>have good careers as players themselves. One was at Pikeville,

786
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.159
<v Speaker 2>the other ones at NKU, and they both got into coaching.

787
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:51.400
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I think it's Ethan who just took over

788
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.800
<v Speaker 2>for Jared, the former head coach at Youngstown who's now

789
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.400
<v Speaker 2>at Utah State having a great run. So yeah, again,

790
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.679
<v Speaker 2>if you read to do other things on this beautiful

791
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 2>evening now that you know it doesn't get dark at

792
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 2>six o'clock, I get it. But me, I'm gonna hope

793
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 2>the kids want to come in early so I can

794
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:09.360
<v Speaker 2>watch basketball games against teams that you know, some of

795
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.280
<v Speaker 2>you probably never even heard about. But I'm a sicko

796
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.119
<v Speaker 2>for it, and it'll be gone before too long, and

797
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:15.840
<v Speaker 2>then I'll be sad.

798
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 3>All right, heavy, good night.

799
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<v Speaker 2>Everybody will talk to you tomorrow right here on Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety