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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the Crystal Coach Show. I'm your
Speaker 1: host Anahata, and today we have a real treat. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk crystals, all the crystals, all the time. Listen.
Speaker 1: A podcast called The Crystal Coat Show wouldn't be really
Speaker 1: legitimate without some episodes being about crystals and stones, right,
Speaker 1: So in this one you'll hear our guest, Ryan Gorman
Speaker 1: talk about his travels and experiences with the mineral Kingdom,
Speaker 1: and yet you get to listen in today as two
Speaker 1: crystal enthusiasts geek out on the subject of collecting stones,
Speaker 1: creating community, and working with the energies of the Earth's minerals.
Speaker 1: It's guaranteed fun and it's going to be educational, So
Speaker 1: stay with us. But the first thing I want to
Speaker 1: do is introduce you to my guest, Ryan Gorman. Ryan
Speaker 1: is a naturalist, artist, adventurer, and mineral expert. He's a
Speaker 1: free spirited crystal collector and seller. His passions for travel,
Speaker 1: rock climbing, and nature led him to become interested in
Speaker 1: the study of minerals and the symbiotic relationship between Mother
Speaker 1: Earth and all who inhabit her. Early family trips to
Speaker 1: the Rocky Mountain National Park the Smoky Mountains in the
Speaker 1: Grand Teton National Park helped Ryan to be able to
Speaker 1: appreciate the natural wonders and beauty of Mother Earth, and
Speaker 1: as a young man, Ryan was drawn to the mineral
Speaker 1: kingdom while traveling in California, where he spent many summers
Speaker 1: at Yosemite National Park rock climbing, just really experiencing the
Speaker 1: frequencies of the crystals and stones, in the granite right, So,
Speaker 1: being an artist and a naturalist, the mineral and crystal
Speaker 1: formations became a source of fascination and study for him. Then,
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, driven by a vision of creating a
Speaker 1: place of community, education, and peace, Ryan collected a team
Speaker 1: of friends to help produce the first Midwest Christal Fest,
Speaker 1: a festival of crystals, spiritual connection, music, food, and fellowship.
Speaker 1: More than fifteen hundred people came to that first free
Speaker 1: weekend event in Saint Louis, Missouri, and the goal of
Speaker 1: every subsequent Crystal Fest is to provide children and their
Speaker 1: families with opportunities to experience and learn about natural wonders
Speaker 1: as well as the traditional indigenous indigenous uses of minerals
Speaker 1: and plants. Ryan currently uses his artistic talents in tandem
Speaker 1: with the crystals and stones, with the lapidary arts, jemstone faceting,
Speaker 1: wire wrapping and silversmithing. The Gorman Medicine bags are prized
Speaker 1: for the quality of craftsmanship and the energy of the
Speaker 1: wrapped crystals and stones. When he isn't off rock hounding,
Speaker 1: climbing or gemstone prospecting, Ryan's native Saint Louis is where
Speaker 1: he calls home and he offers some of his crystal
Speaker 1: fines for sale at local gym and mineral shows, and
Speaker 1: also sells crystals and his medicine bags through Instagram at
Speaker 1: Blue Feather Minerals. Welcome to the show, Ryan.
Speaker 3: Thank you Anna. I'm really happy to be here. I've
Speaker 3: been looking forward to being a part of your podcast
Speaker 3: for a while now, so yeah, it's very exciting to
Speaker 3: be here. Great.
Speaker 1: Great, I was going to I felt felt really bad.
Speaker 1: I had my my my Gorman penn it the one
Speaker 1: you made me after the Crystal first Crystal Fest, and
Speaker 1: I had it. I was going to be wearing it.
Speaker 1: I see this is this is a price. It is price,
Speaker 1: but oh look a bird I forgot. Oh well, listen,
Speaker 1: I want to start with your story about your awakening experience,
Speaker 1: you know, the the rocky mountains at Grand Tetans, Yosemite,
Speaker 1: Mont Shasta. You know I've got over the years, we've
Speaker 1: we've known each other. It's it's we've I've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of different stories. But I'm really interested in you
Speaker 1: if you can share with our listeners, what was you know,
Speaker 1: how you kind of kept getting drawn into nature and
Speaker 1: minerals and how you just started like it was the
Speaker 1: call of the earth and crystals. You started studying those
Speaker 1: minerals and their chemical and metaphysical properties.
Speaker 3: Go sure. So my twin brother and I, we were
Speaker 3: both raised by my mom and she was a single mom,
Speaker 3: so a lot of respect for her, and as we
Speaker 3: were growing up, she always liked to take us out
Speaker 3: to different regions of the country. Sometimes we would go
Speaker 3: east to the Smoky Mountains. Sometimes we go west to
Speaker 3: the Rockies. But as a young child, my brother and I,
Speaker 3: we were always really excited to be on the hiking trail.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm a taurust, which is at Earth sign,
Speaker 3: so often, you know, I would be really into the surroundings.
Speaker 3: But you know a lot of my fixation was on
Speaker 3: the ground, you know, looking at the you know, the
Speaker 3: trail and looking at all the cool rocks that were
Speaker 3: just like protruding out towards me. Because you know, as
Speaker 3: you're younger, you're a little closer to the ground. So yeah,
Speaker 3: early on, early on, Yeah, any mountain region we would
Speaker 3: go do, I just would be infatuated with the different
Speaker 3: you know, the colors and the fields and the textures
Speaker 3: of the stones on the trail. And then I soon enough,
Speaker 3: I had to take some home, you know, and then
Speaker 3: I had a box in the car. And then soon enough,
Speaker 3: my mom's like, you can't bring any more of those home, son,
Speaker 3: there's too many of them. We already got so many.
Speaker 3: So early on I didn't really realize. I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, basically starting my medicinal stone collection from the
Speaker 3: hiking trails. But you know, that's how it all got started,
Speaker 3: just by Foxy.
Speaker 1: Really, Oh, I did the same thing, Ryan. I had
Speaker 1: a box of rocks that were my friends. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would go anywhere. We'd go on walks and you know,
Speaker 1: there was some woods out behind our house and we
Speaker 1: would go on walks as a family, and I would
Speaker 1: always find something to pick up and bring home. And
Speaker 1: I love this I had. It was like a big
Speaker 1: shoe box, and I kept it under my bed, and
Speaker 1: I had it, you know, all throughout high school. And
Speaker 1: then when I left to go to college, you know,
Speaker 1: I left my rocks under my bed. I came home
Speaker 1: and my mother had cleaned out my room and thrown
Speaker 1: away my box of rocks.
Speaker 3: So I've heard those titles before, but usually if you're
Speaker 3: really into the rocks, you just you know, you find more,
Speaker 3: you keep persevering. Sometimes you got art over.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: So you know, they can't stop collecting sometimes it's what
Speaker 3: we need to be, like you know what, mom threw
Speaker 3: that away, I got to start over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was heartbreaking that were my friends. I
Speaker 1: could talk to them, m Yeah, So well, you know
Speaker 1: you were You've your knowledge of the of the chemical
Speaker 1: properties of stones is amazing, Like you know, I mean
Speaker 1: I've got quite a bit of study that I can
Speaker 1: pull from, but I always, you know, you're always surprising
Speaker 1: me with a you know, like, well this rock has
Speaker 1: got this and this and this in it, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm not just know the primary one. How did
Speaker 1: you what? You're mostly self taught, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much? So, like I said, as a youth,
Speaker 3: I you know, I had a pretty big collection, and
Speaker 3: you know, through high school is really when I started
Speaker 3: started getting an idea of what was going on, because
Speaker 3: you know, the geology class was really easy for me. Biology,
Speaker 3: all the Earth's science classes were you know, it's one
Speaker 3: of my natural talents. So I just kind of understood
Speaker 3: how the chemical compositions then led to sometimes how the
Speaker 3: indigenous peoples would use it and it you know, it
Speaker 3: was it basically proved that they knew about how to
Speaker 3: balance our bodies chemically intuitively. And then you know, I've
Speaker 3: got a lot of Celtic in my background from Europe,
Speaker 3: so I just kind of tuned into it as well,
Speaker 3: and I started being able to bridge the gaps of like, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, the metaphysics goes right into the chemical compositions,
Speaker 3: which then usually helps support the indigenous uses if you
Speaker 3: look at it.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, I mean science is just now catching
Speaker 1: up to whatever the shamans of are always known about.
Speaker 1: The on the quantum level, there's this frequency match, right,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, the im minerals and your body
Speaker 1: the same as the minerals and stones and crystals and
Speaker 1: certain certain matches helped align things that are within the
Speaker 1: body's system that's out of whack.
Speaker 3: Yep, pretty much. To put that simply, you know, our
Speaker 3: blood is full of little micromnerals, and when we get
Speaker 3: around the stones and nature and plant medicine, they're always
Speaker 3: having a chemical reaction and having a really deep conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Well, anyway, I just I was kind
Speaker 1: of curious because I don't think we've ever talked about
Speaker 1: this in particular, how you really got, you know, the
Speaker 1: knowledge that you carry now aside from our previous lifetimes
Speaker 1: in the miraa of knowing all of that, but in
Speaker 1: this lifetime, how did you what did you do to
Speaker 1: go about getting your crystal knowledge?
Speaker 3: Well, so I don't know. In two thousand and nine,
Speaker 3: I moved back to Saint Louis, and I had been
Speaker 3: collecting for a while seriously. But then I started looking
Speaker 3: at why I was doing it, and I started realizing
Speaker 3: that that's what probably some Celtic people intuitively do. We
Speaker 3: kind of you know, if you're a stone person, you
Speaker 3: you know, usually kind of like to balance your your
Speaker 3: living area with you know, stones, and then I would
Speaker 3: be balancing the outdoor herb garden. I'd put a little
Speaker 3: crystal under my basil and under my lavender and rosemary.
Speaker 3: So I just I just realized, Hey, your ancestors have
Speaker 3: been doing this, Ryan, working with the different minerals that
Speaker 3: are in the area, you know, wherever you are. So
Speaker 3: then I realized that you have that gift and you
Speaker 3: got it real you know, it comes in pretty strong.
Speaker 3: So I just started realizing, hey, you know, this is
Speaker 3: what the Native Americans would say, Hey, Ryan's a rock
Speaker 3: talker or Ryan's or an as a yeah, and as
Speaker 3: a plant speaker. You know, it's an example of us
Speaker 3: getting the whispers from that natural kingdom and somehow through
Speaker 3: our channels we know what to do with it. So,
Speaker 3: you know, I think basically, I'm always going to be
Speaker 3: a student. I'm always going to be learning here on earth.
Speaker 3: So I just you know, right around in two thousand
Speaker 3: and nine twenty twelve, time I started realizing, hey, this
Speaker 3: is a gift of yours and you have the ability
Speaker 3: to help others understand the medical applications to help themselves
Speaker 3: and others. And then you know, through the work with
Speaker 3: the Native American tribes of North America and South America,
Speaker 3: they also helped empower my understanding of just you know,
Speaker 3: we have all the natural tools in front of us,
Speaker 3: we just sometimes need to, like you said earlier, Bridge,
Speaker 3: the you know, the two worlds of you know, the
Speaker 3: science and then the metaphysics, because it's it's all basically
Speaker 3: saying the same.
Speaker 1: Thing, right and and as I say, the Shamans have
Speaker 1: always known that, but it you know, science is just
Speaker 1: not catching up to that. What was your first UH
Speaker 1: book that you got and studied about crystals? And Stones.
Speaker 3: I think the first book I got a hoove was
Speaker 3: The Crystal Body from Judy Hall.
Speaker 1: Yeah that, yeah, I had that. That wasn't my first one.
Speaker 1: My first one was the Book of Stones with Yeah
Speaker 1: Nisha Osion. It was my who ended up being my teacher.
Speaker 1: But then I also have you know Melody's book, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: big one. Literally is this this big you know, what
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 1: Something of the earth, Treasures of the Earth. I I
Speaker 1: see it in my head. I can't read the title.
Speaker 1: I'm just working out on that. But anyway, those for
Speaker 1: those of you listening, those are those are books that
Speaker 1: are really good to start with, just to kind of
Speaker 1: give you a sense of the frequencies that crystals and
Speaker 1: stones can hold. And you know, but just like anything else,
Speaker 1: if you ask, like, for example, a bee keeper, how
Speaker 1: you ask two bee keepers one question, you're going to
Speaker 1: get like maybe five answers. So there's no really one
Speaker 1: way to work with crystals and stones. It's just that
Speaker 1: you have to the more knowledge you have, the more
Speaker 1: than you can then find that particular alignment for your
Speaker 1: own frequency. But I use I use the guidelines that
Speaker 1: Nayosha gave me because actually she's my teacher, but I've
Speaker 1: also been I've also learned from another Crystal teacher called
Speaker 1: Sarah Thomas, the Upper Clarity School, and you know, she
Speaker 1: comes at it from the Do Dao, the Taoist kind
Speaker 1: of perspective, so the Chinese medicine aspect of it, and
Speaker 1: that's really fascinating too. So there's just so many ways
Speaker 1: that the Mineral Kingdom can work with us because we
Speaker 1: are part of her and our physical bodies are part
Speaker 1: of her. So that's what what resonates when we are
Speaker 1: here in body, in the integrated soul body alignment using
Speaker 1: those frequencies of stones. We we were we first met
Speaker 1: at a gem and Mineral show. Was that your very
Speaker 1: first one?
Speaker 3: It was a leonic career? I think I definitely. I
Speaker 3: think I had been doing uh the stone shows four
Speaker 3: than fires. I think maybe two years in it.
Speaker 1: Okay, well I knew it was in the beginning beginning
Speaker 1: stages and yeah, was it it was? Was it this rock?
Speaker 1: Was it this coonzit piece that you introduced me to? Kunzai?
Speaker 1: So I went through my collection and I'm thinking, I
Speaker 1: think maybe Ryan Gate I bought this from Ryan. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Does it look like something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might have got me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's a pretty big chunk. You can't the
Speaker 1: camera's not showing the pretty pink of it, but it
Speaker 1: is pink. Looks white there in the camera, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pink. Anyway, that that was. That was the first
Speaker 1: time we met, and I just there was you know,
Speaker 1: your knowledge was really impressed me of how you were
Speaker 1: making recommendations and stuff. So that's how at least that's
Speaker 1: how we bonded. And then later on we kind of
Speaker 1: had some shared memories. That was kind of fun to
Speaker 1: discover that. You know, you're an r artists and I
Speaker 1: have to show this to you. Do you remember this?
Speaker 3: Yes, that's you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did that. You you you drew that for me,
Speaker 1: just freehand, and I've had it all these years. It's
Speaker 1: sits underneath in my in my office. It sits underneath
Speaker 1: my tray of stones, just supporting the frequency of that.
Speaker 1: So I thought you could get a kick out of it.
Speaker 3: That's cool. Integrating the art the art into healing work.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, and I knew it belonged in my healing space.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we're going to take a real quick break
Speaker 1: and when we come back, we're going to start talking
Speaker 1: about how you transition from rock climbing to rock hounding
Speaker 1: and where we're digging next. So don't go away, We'll
Speaker 1: be right back.
Speaker 3: Hey everybody, Oh my goodness, we have got talk radio
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Speaker 1: Hi, welcome back to the Crystal Coach Show. I'm your
Speaker 1: host Ana Hatta, and we're talking today with my buddy
Speaker 1: Ryan Gorman, who is just another crystal enthusiast just like
Speaker 1: I am. And we're geeking out on how minerals and
Speaker 1: the frequencies of stones all work together. And we've talked
Speaker 1: about Ryan's story about how he went from you know,
Speaker 1: just fascinated with nature and really got it expressed himself
Speaker 1: as with this kind of fixation on crystals and stones,
Speaker 1: and I have a similar story too, But we're going
Speaker 1: to kind of segue from that into how you go
Speaker 1: from rock climbing to rock hounding. Ryan, you were you know,
Speaker 1: we spent all those summers in Yosemite going up the face,
Speaker 1: you know, the sheer granite walls. What what? How did
Speaker 1: you make that transition from being a rock climber to
Speaker 1: a rock Hounder.
Speaker 3: It's a good story, so yeah, I'd love to talk
Speaker 3: about this one. So for climbing, I started getting into
Speaker 3: that my teenage years. I started working this outdoor shop
Speaker 3: call Pine Shop, located at the time Mister Groves and
Speaker 3: you know they're you know, hiking, backpacking in climbing shop.
Speaker 3: So I started work there and soon enough started getting
Speaker 3: into rhyming. Pretteriously. It was like main pass in my twenties.
Speaker 3: So pretty much almost three year twenties, I would go
Speaker 3: to Yosemite Nationals to go rhyming, and some I would
Speaker 3: spend all summer there just hanging out in the area
Speaker 3: and climbing on the boulders, and sometimes we'd go up
Speaker 3: the big walls and spend a couple of days on
Speaker 3: the wall, you know, just kind of hang out with
Speaker 3: on the Golden granite and just just do our best
Speaker 3: to enjoy ourselves in that. Like it's just such a
Speaker 3: beautiful National park out there in Yimity. So yeah, my
Speaker 3: twenties was pretty heavy in rock climbing. And you know,
Speaker 3: I at that time, I knew I loved rocks, and
Speaker 3: I knew I loved hanging on to them, but I
Speaker 3: hadn't really gotten full fledged into the you know, the
Speaker 3: metaphysics at that point. So right around let's see two
Speaker 3: thousand and nine, I moved back to Saint Louis, and
Speaker 3: you know, Saint Louis doesn't have that many big rocks here,
Speaker 3: so I started kind of just getting into you know,
Speaker 3: the local minerals that are found kind of near Potosi,
Speaker 3: the Jersey quartzes and the stuff you'll find creeks, so
Speaker 3: you know, bussels, the row heads. Yeah, miss pretty we're
Speaker 3: a very good krillin and rock hounding state. And you
Speaker 3: know then, you know, right in my mid mid to
Speaker 3: LATEI as I started to realize, hey, Saint Louis, Zuri
Speaker 3: is a great place to find in the crystals. And
Speaker 3: then I started, you know, kind of learning from a
Speaker 3: lot of people around me that, you know, the Native
Speaker 3: Americans say, you know, you've got a gift to see
Speaker 3: these as vibrational medicine and kind of plug them into
Speaker 3: your own reality and others and and see how they
Speaker 3: might benefit us from working with them.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so much Jersey, so much quartz along the
Speaker 1: creeks and rivers. You just go walking through in the
Speaker 1: woods and you're going to find them in Missouri that's
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. But yeah, but it was just
Speaker 1: it just occurred to me that we're geeking out and
Speaker 1: we know what rock hounding is, but our listeners may not.
Speaker 1: So rock hounding is the the sniffing out, if you will,
Speaker 1: the looking for, the turning over the dirt to find
Speaker 1: you know, crystals and stones that are I don't know
Speaker 1: that that are collectible and useful medicinally frequency rise and
Speaker 1: also just really pretty. And so that's what geeks say
Speaker 1: we rock hound because we're like being hounds, like you know,
Speaker 1: sniffing it out looking for him, but digging over, you know,
Speaker 1: turning over other big rocks to see if we can
Speaker 1: find smaller rocks. But you the first time I ever
Speaker 1: went digging for crystals was with a group with you,
Speaker 1: and we went to Arkansas. And you know, that's a
Speaker 1: pretty easy trip for people in Missouri to you know,
Speaker 1: the next state over. But you know, there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of beautiful courts that can be found in an Arkansas
Speaker 1: that kind of spills into Missouri, but it's mostly in Arkansas, right,
Speaker 1: So where else I know you've you've been to like
Speaker 1: Joshua Tree, California, and some other places like in the Carolinas,
Speaker 1: and did you go to New York. There's there's You've
Speaker 1: been all over the US digging for crystals, right.
Speaker 3: Rocks, yep, yep, so yep, our first dig years ago
Speaker 3: Arkansas together. That was the beginning of kind of my
Speaker 3: career of and around the country because you know, I
Speaker 3: kind of slowed down on the rock climbing and then
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I still love traveling. I
Speaker 3: really love seeing new places. And then I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, well the United States just some really amazing
Speaker 3: minerals all over. So yeah, once we went to Arkansas
Speaker 3: and kind of got tuned into into the Washataw Mountains, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, the Washataws, I believe, are one of
Speaker 3: the only mountain ranges full of courts that run east
Speaker 3: west in our country. So, you know, seven hour drives
Speaker 3: south of Saint Louis, you know, near Little Rock, you
Speaker 3: run into the Washington Mountains that run east to west
Speaker 3: and they are literally just growing full of clear quartz crystals.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's basically the best quality quartz deposit in
Speaker 3: the country and maybe even the world.
Speaker 1: Really better than Brazil, you think, So.
Speaker 3: I do think, you know, clear quartz Brazil does have
Speaker 3: a lot of that, so you know, they're both very good.
Speaker 1: Deposits, though they've got different.
Speaker 3: Most definitely, all quarts is going to have a little
Speaker 3: bit different frequency for sure, depending on where you may
Speaker 3: find it. And that kind of brings me to what
Speaker 3: you were touching on earlier. There's quartz that grows out
Speaker 3: in San Diego, you know, in the mountains of San Diego,
Speaker 3: and I've been there to dig crystals. The mine that
Speaker 3: I've been most frequently is called Ocean View and that's
Speaker 3: in a place called Pala, California. And you know, we
Speaker 3: were talking about kunzite earlier. It's one of our favorite
Speaker 3: you and I's favorite crystal frequencies, you know, I know
Speaker 3: we have a lot of favorites, but it's up up
Speaker 3: there near the top. So Ocean View mine is where
Speaker 3: pink konsite was first discovered in the early nineteen hundreds,
Speaker 3: and George Folgickkuhns came to that mine in Ocean View
Speaker 3: and he, along with the miners at the time, was
Speaker 3: able to coin the name Kunzite, and that's his nest
Speaker 3: last name, cons And I think that if my Germans correct,
Speaker 3: I think that cons is translates to love. So it's
Speaker 3: really cool. We love the frequency. Yeah, it's it's a
Speaker 3: cool I mean, if my translation is correct, which I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure, there's two words in German for love, and
Speaker 3: one of them is liba and then the other one
Speaker 3: is kons. So yeah, yep it so yeah. The Ocean
Speaker 3: View Mine is a really amazing mind that has kunzite, aquamarine, morganite,
Speaker 3: tourmalines of all colorspitolite, citrin, smoky moonstone, garnets, and the
Speaker 3: list goes on. That's that's one of my favorite minds
Speaker 3: that I like to frequent and you know, in the future,
Speaker 3: i'd like to start kind of you know, putting an
Speaker 3: invite to friends that you know, might you know, well,
Speaker 3: I have a lot of friends that are like, wow,
Speaker 3: that sounds fun. Ryan, just call me when you're there
Speaker 3: next time and we'll just we'll meet there. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: so uh so yeah, uh yeah. San Diego is one
Speaker 3: of my favorite minds that I've been into. And then
Speaker 3: another really cool mine in New York is where the
Speaker 3: Mohawk dream Yeah. The Herkimer diamonds or the natives call
Speaker 3: them dreamstones, so yeah, they come from Herkimer County, New
Speaker 3: York And they're a very special type of courts because technically,
Speaker 3: I think they're they're very old. They're like three hundred
Speaker 3: million years old, and I think they're a full point yeah,
Speaker 3: and they're harder than most courts, So they're like a
Speaker 3: seven and a half on the UH on the most scale. Yeah.
Speaker 3: For some reason, I've heard the theories are that they
Speaker 3: grew from stramata like fossils, and they grew very slow
Speaker 3: in the in the pockets of the dramatallite fossils. So
Speaker 3: some some geologists say that that's kind of how they
Speaker 3: got that, you know, extra hardness is because they you know,
Speaker 3: basically grew from the strumatallites that were in the ocean.
Speaker 1: Ah. Wow, that's cool. That's really cool. So have you
Speaker 1: been to Hidden Nite? I mean that. Yeah, there's like
Speaker 1: a town in South Carolina called Hiddenite, right, that's where
Speaker 1: the Hidden nighte comes from.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. So I have been very close to Hidnite,
Speaker 3: but I have yet to go there. The places in
Speaker 3: North Carolina that I have been, I've been to Spruce Pine,
Speaker 3: North Carolina, and then I've also been to Asheville Hot Springs,
Speaker 3: North Carolina to find garnets. We we my garnet's near
Speaker 3: Hotsp Springs at this place called Little Pine Garnet Mine,
Speaker 3: and I believe that mine is now either closed or
Speaker 3: something might be restricted about the access. But I've been
Speaker 3: there a couple of times in the past ten years
Speaker 3: or so to gather the garnets. And then I've also
Speaker 3: been to Spruce Pine before, and you know, they have
Speaker 3: a lot of different minerals that grow there, sapphires, garnets, emeralds, rubies,
Speaker 3: and then just south of there, I believe is where
Speaker 3: Hidden Nite is, and that's that's where the green spodumene
Speaker 3: was first discovered in Hidden Nite. And I believe the
Speaker 3: green spo spodymen that they call Hidden Nite it's very
Speaker 3: special because it's the only type of SPoD meene in
Speaker 3: the whole world that that that's bearing Uh, it's a
Speaker 3: what is it? It's a it's bearing chromium and that's
Speaker 3: what that's what brings that green color out in Yeah,
Speaker 3: the chromium. And I'm told that all the other inkunzites
Speaker 3: might aid in the sun, but the chromium from a reason,
Speaker 3: does not seem to fade in the hidden night as much.
Speaker 1: MM hmm yeah, I mean, you know, konzite and hidden eye,
Speaker 1: they're all they're all, you know, very much of the
Speaker 1: same kind of mineral family. They're just different colors in
Speaker 1: different primary like as you say, chromium in the in
Speaker 1: the konzite in the hidden nite, and then the manganese
Speaker 1: in the pink konzite, right, and that what makes it
Speaker 1: think the manganese.
Speaker 3: I believe, so I believe so yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's what makes I mean, because that's what's so
Speaker 1: peaceful about this. This is unconditional love. This is the
Speaker 1: highest frequency of the water element stones in my training.
Speaker 1: And h yeah, I love Kunzi. It's just really such
Speaker 1: a oh, it's like a hug. That and rose quartz
Speaker 1: are but those are the ones I go to when
Speaker 1: I'm feeling down and I need a hug. I need
Speaker 1: a hug from my from my mineral friends. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: if you had, if you had a chance to go
Speaker 1: someplace else to dig, where would you want to go
Speaker 1: outside of the US.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's that's a very hard one. I kind of
Speaker 3: know the answer to that one. I please would go
Speaker 3: out to visit my good friend he Gundersson in Astrica.
Speaker 3: We've been talking for about ten years about linking up
Speaker 3: and you know, going to the outback and you know,
Speaker 3: if it works out in the future, I'd love to
Speaker 3: go find the ocean, the blue Ocean kyanite that Patrick
Speaker 3: you know, he he knows where to find it. And
Speaker 3: it's just right out of the hillside. It's just so
Speaker 3: beautiful it is.
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous, so gorgeous.
Speaker 3: Of it too amazing.
Speaker 1: So you go to Australia, Yeah, because Australia has oh,
Speaker 1: so many, so many minerals in that continent. It's it's
Speaker 1: incredible they've got well, you know, they have been opals
Speaker 1: that have been found in the in North America, right,
Speaker 1: but the opals in Australia are the ones that are prized.
Speaker 3: And are pretty much Yeah, I'm celebrated, I would say.
Speaker 3: And they're very stable, so you know, they're a little
Speaker 3: more durable than most opals.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, because I inhance. She heard it an opal
Speaker 1: ring from my mother that she had bought for herself
Speaker 1: when she first started working in her twenties. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and it you know, she wore it almost every day.
Speaker 1: Well towards the end of her life she didn't wear it.
Speaker 1: But you know, when I was growing up, she always
Speaker 1: had that on. So she told me when I was
Speaker 1: thirteen years old, she said, Donald, someday this will be yours.
Speaker 1: So there was never any question with my two sisters
Speaker 1: who got the Opal ring. But it's it was, of
Speaker 1: course it is I got the open ring because I'm
Speaker 1: the crystal coach, right So but yeah, they wouldn't. My
Speaker 1: other two sisters wouldn't really have a clue about how
Speaker 1: to appreciate. You know, the opal itself is a fire open.
Speaker 1: Have I shown it to you? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: maybe haven't, but it's a fire open. It's just really
Speaker 1: super and intense. It needs to be cleaned. But aside
Speaker 1: from that, yeah, it's cool. So poll and what else
Speaker 1: is it? Is Australia famous.
Speaker 3: For so last year Patrick expected the largest and this
Speaker 3: geode in Australian history. So yeah, uh trick. And Australia
Speaker 3: has a bunch of really good ammethetists. They have very
Speaker 3: good toast. They have amazing aquareine and a lot of
Speaker 3: that equa can be blue or that nice beautifureen that
Speaker 3: everyone kind of hears about in the legs of Anquity.
Speaker 3: It's it's an interesting fact that you know, long ago
Speaker 3: when they said, oh, sailors, you know, they used the
Speaker 3: aquamarine to help protect their sea voyages. So supposedly the
Speaker 3: aquamarine would help protect the seafares from the beefening voices
Speaker 3: of remnant atlantis. He's would sing song they were going
Speaker 3: to dry. At some times the dry sorts over to
Speaker 3: their and they and the old thing tick me that
Speaker 3: they figure out how to pet most sailors, as they said,
Speaker 3: you have to get really nicees of marine.
Speaker 1: Mmm mmm nice. You know, we're we're having some weather,
Speaker 1: extreme weather here while we're recording, and so you know,
Speaker 1: it could be that we're going in and out because
Speaker 1: of the lightning and thunder, messing with the Wi Fi.
Speaker 1: But we'll keep going. So let's just let's talk a
Speaker 1: second about choosing and using stones.
Speaker 2: Let's talk rocks.
Speaker 1: I have a list of rocks that I give to
Speaker 1: somebody that's saying, well, what do I if I'm just starting
Speaker 1: out what I need? And you know, I always say
Speaker 1: you need to choose from what your body is drawn to.
Speaker 1: But there is you know, like five or six that
Speaker 1: are just like a go to starter. Right, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I do, but I'm curious about what you
Speaker 1: would recommend to say, kiddos or well just anybody Crystal
Speaker 1: curious what they would what what would be good ones
Speaker 1: just to start with, just to work with from your perspective.
Speaker 3: Sure, Anna, So you know, I've been working stones a while,
Speaker 3: working with the properties for a time. Sometimes it depends
Speaker 3: on the day that you would ask me the question.
Speaker 3: But I guess what I'll do is I'll just how
Speaker 3: I started. You know, early on, I was probably eight
Speaker 3: years old and my dad gifted me a fossil of
Speaker 3: a little fern leaf. Oh and I still have it
Speaker 3: to this day, and I consider it the benchmark of
Speaker 3: my collection because it's it's it's so earthy and and
Speaker 3: I love ferns, being a Celtic person, and I have
Speaker 3: Irish so connection to the emerald tiles and the ferny,
Speaker 3: the ferny faye realm. So yeah, I just I really
Speaker 3: like fossils. You know, if you can find something really earthy,
Speaker 3: they're very supportive, and you know, they help kind of
Speaker 3: form a foundation that you can move upward beyond that
Speaker 3: as like a zero point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the Nautilists. The spiral effect of the Natilists too,
Speaker 1: as a fossil, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, amalytes are great anything sacred.
Speaker 1: Spiral, yes, absolutely, well, I was thinking, you know, for
Speaker 1: kids obviously clear courts, which helps to amplify whatever and
Speaker 1: gives gives a little clarity. But also rose quartz because
Speaker 1: of the love and the frequency that's so soft and comforting.
Speaker 1: And amethyst also because of the way in which it
Speaker 1: can help you connect to that part of you that's
Speaker 1: not physical and kind of lend some protection. I like
Speaker 1: black turmaline, that's one of my go to stones because
Speaker 1: and certainly I've bought a lot of gratermaline for you,
Speaker 1: but that transmits negativity to clear light. So it's just
Speaker 1: one of those really good stones, all purpose stones to
Speaker 1: kind of have with you, to carry around with you,
Speaker 1: to have around on your person or around your environment
Speaker 1: in your home. You know. So those are are kind
Speaker 1: of like some of my recommendations that I feel like
Speaker 1: everybody needs to have those to start, and you just
Speaker 1: kind of expand from there. I mean, to your point
Speaker 1: about acamarine, I mean, it really is such it's a
Speaker 1: watery element and it helps you just kind of let
Speaker 1: go of stuff you're hanging on to emotional stuff, but
Speaker 1: that's something that you know, you you would take down
Speaker 1: the line as you learn how to work with crystals
Speaker 1: and stones, you know, so you start out with fossils.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that you would say for our
Speaker 1: listening audience would be good to start.
Speaker 3: I think my second stone I ever kind of discovered
Speaker 3: in the world, sides the ones I was finding on
Speaker 3: the ground in the mountains, the second stone I really
Speaker 3: encountered was Lapis lazuli. So I really do love lappin.
Speaker 3: And that's a three way combo of white causite, pyrite,
Speaker 3: fulls gold, and lasual. So those three minerals kind of
Speaker 3: form a three way combo. That's it. It's very beneficial.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I would call it, like, you know,
Speaker 3: a beginner stone, but I think when I was about ten,
Speaker 3: I kind of was gifted a strand of beads that
Speaker 3: were lapis, and it started getting me ready for my
Speaker 3: mission of working with the stones, because you know, I think,
Speaker 3: what kid really, you know, you go through childhood, you
Speaker 3: see fools gold, You're like, wow, I have to have
Speaker 3: a piece of that gold because it's you know, that's
Speaker 3: enough seyah. You know, it's affordable, it looks like gold,
Speaker 3: and it's very grounding. So you know, if I had
Speaker 3: to re end another great stone with high write, but
Speaker 3: I said, i'm APIs early on, and it was it was,
Speaker 3: you know, a great stone for me. I would agree
Speaker 3: with you that if you wanted to start simple, you know,
Speaker 3: a fossil or black turning or amethysts, rose quartz, you know,
Speaker 3: a lestial clear quartz is very good. Citrine is another
Speaker 3: great one. Yes, and then you know, I think we
Speaker 3: both would we love kyanite, like cayanite is just pretty solid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is, but it's it's harder to find,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's not it's more expensive. So you know,
Speaker 1: when you've got people that just looking, especially kids, you know,
Speaker 1: you got folks that are unlimited income of the whatever
Speaker 1: they really want to start out. So you you know,
Speaker 1: the ones that are more available are the ones that
Speaker 1: are more affordable. Although rose quartz is getting kind of
Speaker 1: pricey these days, but there's just still there's an abundance
Speaker 1: of rose quartz as well as black turmaline at this point.
Speaker 1: You know, we keep digging it out of the earth,
Speaker 1: and the more the things that the huge pieces that
Speaker 1: keep coming out of the earth, I keep feeling like
Speaker 1: the earth we don't need to. We need to leave
Speaker 1: them in there. They're there for a reason and it
Speaker 1: and it kind of bothers me a little bit that
Speaker 1: where we might be in our zest, in our appetite
Speaker 1: for the you know, all of these shiny objects we are,
Speaker 1: we're cutting off our nose despite our face.
Speaker 3: So in essence, uh I am. You know, I always
Speaker 3: listening to the anstors and what they appreciate all many things,
Speaker 3: especially any type edicine, whether it's uh pense urals whatever
Speaker 3: you're king medicinal. You always the best rules of them
Speaker 3: is tose balance. So it's very good, exactly balanced for directions.
Speaker 3: You know, heart or heart always tell us we need
Speaker 3: and something to upsetick our egoing will be like I
Speaker 3: want to bring home the mountain. And you know I
Speaker 3: always hold myself if I thinking that way, I say, Ryan,
Speaker 3: that's not all going to fit in the car.
Speaker 1: No, No, it doesn't balance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you teach the kids saying, hey, you
Speaker 3: want justine so you can appreciate, ciate what the mineral
Speaker 3: kingdom represents. So as long as you don't have too much,
Speaker 3: then you can't take it ranted, and then you're appreciative
Speaker 3: of the collection that you are able to attract and
Speaker 3: humbly work with. So yeah, the balance is he for
Speaker 3: us right now, you know the rereasure aspect that I
Speaker 3: want it all that sing. We need to definitely make
Speaker 3: sure we keep in check because I think humanity, you know,
Speaker 3: it's safe to probably we all hear those vois inside.
Speaker 3: But as you say, hey we gotta share, Ryan, you
Speaker 3: gotta share so everybody can get a little bit. So
Speaker 3: then we appreciate the bride combs that you know, the
Speaker 3: creator here it has left us right because.
Speaker 1: I know but you know you were talking about your
Speaker 1: friend Patrick has found the biggest amethyst in all of Australia,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well you found it, good for you
Speaker 1: leave it there. I mean, you know this part of
Speaker 1: it me that this feels like it we're we're doing.
Speaker 1: We're taking away that that support, that internal support that
Speaker 1: that Mother Earth is giving us as we walk on
Speaker 1: her by pulling all of that out, you know. So
Speaker 1: I'm just in a conundrum about the whole, the whole
Speaker 1: masterlinding aspect of it.
Speaker 3: So I've sorry Patrick, and it helped clear the whole
Speaker 3: thing up a little bit. So Patrick, I know almost
Speaker 3: for a fact, that he is balanced when he minds.
Speaker 3: So he had a pretty internal dilemma with trying to
Speaker 3: go out did he want to extract the theode A
Speaker 3: lot of other minds because it was so far out
Speaker 3: there most ninety you know, a good portion of the
Speaker 3: miner wh would ask if they found that because it
Speaker 3: was so hard to drack. He you know, he spent
Speaker 3: six years trying to track that Jode Perkeley so it
Speaker 3: would make it to museum, it would be vague. And he,
Speaker 3: you know, on Instagram broke that cried because he had
Speaker 3: all the world Patrick the crime try to get things
Speaker 3: into entire and he's said, no, one highest off, We're
Speaker 3: not do this all the time. But this is a
Speaker 3: linim achievement. And he on a question to get at
Speaker 3: all so that to get an age wheeler all out
Speaker 3: and out and carefully extra the zeo the team of
Speaker 3: and was and I the hatch was following his inner
Speaker 3: because when you see the guys crying, balling and my
Speaker 3: flings were people couldn't understand why I did this. People
Speaker 3: were being fished by.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you know that I understand that, I
Speaker 1: understand that and and I and I appreciate you giving
Speaker 1: me the color commentary on on how he extracted it.
Speaker 1: I'm just really what I was going. Where I was
Speaker 1: going was the you know, the mass production, you know,
Speaker 1: the mass minings, you know, like it's almost like strip mining,
Speaker 1: you know, just digging, digging chunks of the earth out
Speaker 1: looking for stuff. And that's not what individuals do, but
Speaker 1: there are some people. There's there's some companies that are
Speaker 1: out there that that you know, that's their area of specialty.
Speaker 1: You know, it's been great to talk to you, and
Speaker 1: I can't believe that an hour is already gone, but
Speaker 1: I wanted to let the folks know how to again
Speaker 1: that you are. Your main main way to see your
Speaker 1: work and see some of the stones and some of
Speaker 1: the medicine bags that you produce is through Instagram. And
Speaker 1: then your handle on Instagram is Blue Feather Minerals, right,
Speaker 1: and that's that's the way that they can reach you.
Speaker 1: They can you know, message you on Instagram and and
Speaker 1: find you there and what you do. And I hope
Speaker 1: people will take time to check Ryan's page out Blue
Speaker 1: Feather Minerals and see the wonderful work that he does
Speaker 1: and some of the really beautiful specimens that he has
Speaker 1: for sale. So Ryan, thanks again for showing up and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that our at was a little off today,
Speaker 1: but you know we made it work. So thanks again.
Speaker 1: But my friend and uh, we'll see you next time.
Speaker 1: And for the audience, thank you, thank you for being
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