WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:00.320 Day. 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 3 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:08.080 Fox Sports fourteen fifth. 4 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:09.679 Day, powered by Nova. 5 00:00:09.480 --> 00:00:13.279 Insurance Services Insure your most Prized POSSESSIONETS. 6 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:17.640 Thank you, Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the 7 00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:20.320 Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rovera, 8 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:25.079 you're Blake, Eager, you're one, and you're Ray. Got a 9 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:28.800 packed house today, lots to talk about, some good guests. 10 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:31.440 We pulled off a miracle. I shouldn't say we, you did, 11 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:35.799 Bob Hoffman. Yeah, I mean I exhausted my resources, so. 12 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:39.039 Yours, my rolodecks, we're running out of steam. 13 00:00:39.439 --> 00:00:41.719 We got them. My big names are all in season 14 00:00:41.799 --> 00:00:43.359 right now. Yeah, yeah, right, right right. 15 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:44.679 I didn't think you'd be able to pull off the 16 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:47.759 ones you did. But in George's like, you know, mccurracle, 17 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:49.039 where do you find that. 18 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:50.960 That guy's on the golf course, That's where you find them. 19 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:52.439 Are in Tokyo, one of the two. 20 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:55.399 Yeah, okay, So we'll get Bob Hoffman at three seventeen 21 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:58.079 with the road Runners, so trying to get into the playoffs. 22 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:01.200 I think they're good right now because water last night. Yeah, 23 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:02.119 I was at the game last night. 24 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:03.679 Did you. Yeah, it was a great game. They played 25 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:04.079 really well. 26 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:07.120 Okay, and then at four seventeen, we're gonna have Ken 27 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:08.560 hockey from PA. 28 00:01:08.760 --> 00:01:08.920 Yeah. 29 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:13.879 I know Kenny very well, younger older, I'm younger, okay, yeah, 30 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:14.640 don't put me like. 31 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:17.120 Yeah, but I figured maybe you played against each other. 32 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:20.159 No, no, we didn't play against each other. So I 33 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:22.319 was the years of like the same years as j J. 34 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:24.439 Hardy and and Kensler and those guys. Oh okay, so 35 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:28.000 really they're old that old now forty No, man, we've 36 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:31.879 got our walkers time time try and time up our retirements, 37 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:35.400 time flash replacements, shoulder replacements, time flash when you can't 38 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:38.280 pull the ball. Hey man, I didn't ever want to 39 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:39.799 be in the batter's box in the first place. So 40 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:41.719 because you knew you were a pitcher and you could 41 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:44.120 hit these guys, Yeah, they could hit me if I 42 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:46.719 was in there. I mean you remember JJ or JJ 43 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:49.239 through like ninety two ninety four in high school too. 44 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:52.680 Okay, So we'll have those guys will take some calls. 45 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:55.439 We have these guys with their insight. Uh still, so 46 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:58.439 a lot of baseball, right, we'll talk about baseball some hockey. Yeah, 47 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:00.879 And I was gonna try to get ed lolsperg girl 48 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:01.719 shot to get him on too. 49 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:03.439 I haven't asked you about the bat. Have I asked 50 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:06.040 you about the bats? The torpedo bats. No, but they've 51 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.520 been around for It's not like the first time. People 52 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:11.719 tell me. I think it really started last year and 53 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:13.400 then so guys were trying to figure that out. It 54 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:18.159 just became kind of frontline headlines because the Yankees. 55 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:20.080 Yeah, and they're doing stuff with it. 56 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:24.439 Whatever you want. I don't remember. I don't advantage what 57 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:27.719 point did the coming last year. I'll start probably start 58 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.400 have no really word about it. No, no, oh, So 59 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:34.159 it's kind of like old news, new news, old news, 60 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:37.000 new news. Yeah. I have to be careful because those 61 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.439 words want to go exactly together. For me, it's hard 62 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:40.120 to enunciate. 63 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:43.639 Yeah, well I didn't know that because you saw that. Obviously, 64 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:45.280 the Yankees are doing really well with it. Some of 65 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:47.520 the teams have picked it up. That's strange to be 66 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.639 that that's old news and now new news because people 67 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:51.560 are hitting home runs. 68 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:53.360 Yeah, I think. I mean, you get that, and you 69 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:55.039 can get the spider tech back for the pitchers, and 70 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:58.400 let's let's have a go legalized steroids. Let's see what happens. 71 00:02:58.560 --> 00:02:59.680 Let's throw it all in the mix. 72 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:01.240 Man. Oh, he's not the name for it. See that 73 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:01.919 tells me how. 74 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:03.960 Spider tech is. The sticky stuff pictures we're using to 75 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:06.280 make the ball spin faster. Okay, at a higher rate. 76 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:09.000 You want to start getting into spin RATESA no, No, 77 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:10.639 I just want to play ball, man, I just want 78 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:11.080 to play ball. 79 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:12.439 That's why you did. What were your kids? 80 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:14.319 Yeah, you just grab a back, grab a ball, a 81 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:16.639 needle in the butt, and let's go hit some home runs. 82 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:17.960 Were you an analytics guy? 83 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:21.159 I didn't become an analytics guy until pro ball, and 84 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:23.280 then I started kind of delving a little bit deeper 85 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:24.759 in that. But we didn't have that information while I 86 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:27.439 was playing. Now they've got everything. I mean, you're setting 87 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:30.639 up hitters. I saw. I heard it called scouting. Yeah, 88 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:33.719 I mean high end scouting. Advance advanced metrics is what 89 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:35.439 you're looking at. But I was. I was listening to 90 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:37.319 podcasts the other day and one of the pictures on there. 91 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:40.919 I was talking about, over the course of his last 92 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:43.960 like forty starts or something like that, the number of 93 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:46.360 fastballs that he's thrown down the middle, right down the middle. 94 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:49.280 He's only given up like six heads, so you know, 95 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:52.400 guys are trying to paints. No, No, Greg maddox is 96 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:54.240 a whole different beast. But it's just funny when you 97 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:56.680 think about that, because we were taught, you know, growing 98 00:03:56.759 --> 00:03:58.400 up that you you don't want the big part of 99 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:01.000 the plate. Yeah, and now guys are so adjusted to 100 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:03.960 their zones and so good at recognizing pitches out of 101 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:08.080 the hand that they can make those adjustments pretty quick. Yeah. Yeah. Well, 102 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:10.719 now it's just getting the ball quicker to the to 103 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.039 the plate man, making it spin as fast as you 104 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:13.639 possibly can. 105 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:14.280 Ye. 106 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:20.319 Wow, Well I've never I've never did you did you 107 00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:21.639 hit or do you didn't hit at all? 108 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:23.839 High school? Okay, so I wouldn't call it hitting. I 109 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:25.240 was in the box, I hadn't bat in my hand. 110 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:29.199 That was my last hitting, and against good players obviously too, 111 00:04:29.319 --> 00:04:32.240 but nothing like the nineties mid nineties. To me, that 112 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:34.160 would be just like holy craft, please don't hit me. 113 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:36.319 Yeah, I mean I've I've worn some pitches off the 114 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:38.800 elbow at like ninety five. That's not that made me 115 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.279 never want to be aheader ever again. Because we had 116 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:44.160 to hit in double A for nationally. Sho get a 117 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:46.680 hit too. You never got it. It was a good bunner though, 118 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:49.399 It's all I was paid to do. Man, get in 119 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:50.839 the box, put a bunt down. You don't want me 120 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:53.000 to get it, you want me getting hurt. So you 121 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:56.800 were no Valenzuela. No, I was not the Madison Bumgardner 122 00:04:56.839 --> 00:04:59.000 of my generation or Jake Carri Yet I should say. 123 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:00.279 You still you wouldn't be on the radio, would be 124 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:03.519 still making money. I doubt that not with my age. 125 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:07.319 Do you miss it? Do I miss playing? Yeah? Yeah, 126 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:09.519 I think at times I miss the competitive nature. I miss, like, 127 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:12.240 you know, being in a clubhouse with guys that's playing 128 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:15.040 cards after the game, getting that knowledge, getting and then 129 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:18.600 being in a clubhouse with I mean the extensive different 130 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:22.759 political ideologies and everybody at the table or just social ideologies, 131 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:26.040 everybody at the table or talking about it openly, you know. 132 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:28.959 I mean that's what I didn't say that we were ballplayers. 133 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:31.240 I mean there's not a lot of intelligent ball players 134 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:34.319 out there are similar yea, And you had guys from 135 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:35.879 different countries in that same conversation. 136 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:37.720 It's it's it was a cool thing, and that's you know, 137 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:38.399 let me ask you. 138 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:40.360 I think maybe I have asked you this before because 139 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:43.360 we're talking in baseball. Anybody wants to call divert us 140 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.600 to a different subject. One hundred people in the in 141 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:51.439 the bucket, what's the uh the ethnic backgrounds of the 142 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:52.959 of the people. 143 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:57.360 Of Major League Baseball. I think it's like more than 144 00:05:57.399 --> 00:05:59.839 half or the Latino at this point. I believe more 145 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:01.720 than And then now with you're going to have a 146 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:07.519 huge Asian influx with the with what Japan's doing. So yeah, 147 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:10.600 probably right now, but that's going to substantially grow in 148 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:12.360 the next I would say three to five years with 149 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:15.279 advanced scouting. So that's that's kind of why I wanted 150 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:17.240 George on today talk about that because he's in North 151 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:19.800 American scout for the Tokyo Giants to give us some 152 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:22.480 perspective what's happening with the Japanese players and the success 153 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:29.399 that you're seeing, uh Latino Latino than African Americans. African 154 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:32.680 Americans still very low. African Americans are still low. When 155 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:34.399 that needs to be there needs to be a better 156 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:36.079 reach out to them. They're doing that sort of through 157 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:38.839 RBI Baseball. But uh, you know, I mean the history 158 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:41.839 of Major League Baseball and professional baseball is usually ingrained 159 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:44.079 in the African American culture and we need to figure 160 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:45.480 out a way to get that back. Yeah. 161 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:49.160 And then the rest, of course, the white Americans white, 162 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:52.480 I just call him Americans American, yes, just Americans. Were 163 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:58.800 most Americans? Yeah, white is Ben? Did you ever know that? 164 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:02.720 Well, the conversation we had yesterday about us having to 165 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:04.600 speak Spanish, we both were like, nah, we're not very 166 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:05.160 comfortable with it. 167 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:11.839 No, no, no for war Uh no good, but my boys, 168 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:13.920 do do you speak Spanish? 169 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:16.639 Well? Yeah, pretty well is my first language? 170 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:20.920 Okay, No, you're like me, I'm a white skin. 171 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:24.680 Yeah, at least we know who we are. Yeah. 172 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:28.560 I don't hide it at all. Yeah, you know, I 173 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:31.439 see relatives that I don't know that our relatives and 174 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:32.800 they try to talk to me, and I'm like. 175 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:37.040 See yeah, see do they shun you for it? Because 176 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:39.680 they should? They have to turn around and they do. 177 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:43.959 The I listen. The ability to speak multiple languages, I mean, 178 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:48.079 it's such a great you have such a great trait 179 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:51.160 and yet to have like when I was living in Europe, 180 00:07:51.160 --> 00:07:53.639 I mean, most people speak at least three, right, if 181 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:57.399 not someone sometimes upwards of five. And it's just reg 182 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:02.000 and you're talking just from a pay standpoint and increases 183 00:08:02.040 --> 00:08:03.680 the ability to make a lot more money. 184 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.240 Sure, sure, no, No, Then figure that if you were 185 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:08.519 covering baseball right, and you were in Mexico or you 186 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:10.800 were able to go abroad, you were able to communicate 187 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:12.519 with you. That's I think that Pedro Gomez was so 188 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:14.399 good at it because I was able to speak a 189 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:15.120 couple of languages. 190 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:15.480 Yeah. 191 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:17.600 Absolutely, Yeah, and me it was just a do you 192 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:19.759 understand it all? But to ask the questions would be 193 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:20.639 the difficult part of it. 194 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:22.240 Yeah, I ended up putting my foot in my mouth 195 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:23.680 and then people start laughing, which. 196 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:25.439 I'm sure you picked it up because you were part 197 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:25.720 of the. 198 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:27.120 I picked it up because I grew up on the 199 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:28.600 West Side too, grew up here right, and it was 200 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:30.720 something that I wanted to learn and wanted to be 201 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:33.559 in a conversation. I wanted to have that knowledge. And 202 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:35.679 then when I moved to Europe and tried to learn Swedish, 203 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:38.600 I was like, Nah, that everybody speaks, so I'm. 204 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:40.720 Going off tangent, which of course is that's who I am. 205 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:42.960 So in the world of the mix you gave me, 206 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.840 I think the baseball itself has changed because you have 207 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.600 the bravado of the of us, the latinos and the 208 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:52.080 that flipping and all that. 209 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:52.759 It's clear. 210 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:55.360 Yeah, yeah, it's changed the game that way. 211 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:55.720 Yeah. 212 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:58.200 Yeah, are you asking if I like it? I was 213 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:02.080 gonna cut it's gone that way, right, Am I not correct? 214 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:02.399 Yeah? 215 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:04.960 I think I think the personalities are becoming more apparent 216 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:07.480 on the on the on the field, which I mean 217 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:09.440 you date back to the seventies. It's similar to that. 218 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:11.879 I think we've lost that. I mean, I think you 219 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:14.039 look to sports like PGA, where you don't get to 220 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:17.320 see their personalities anymore. It's just work, work, work, work, work. Yeah. 221 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:19.279 I think there's a good mix of that, right, and 222 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:21.639 the unspoken rules of baseball I think should be broken 223 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:25.200 at some point and develop what it would be I 224 00:09:25.240 --> 00:09:28.440 mean showmanship. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, showmanship like if I'm 225 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:30.120 gonna attack you, you're gonna attack me like I was 226 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:32.159 throwing the ball ninety eight miles an hour. Sports. 227 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:34.200 Yeah, sports, Yeah, that's what I think. 228 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:35.919 I think about the trash shocking in the eighties and 229 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:38.360 nineties and basketball, ye, yeah, beat the crap out of 230 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:41.080 each other. I mean Bird is famous for his trash shocking. 231 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:43.440 Michael Jordan's famous for that, right. 232 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:46.759 No, it was like when Bobby Heardy talked about love 233 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:49.879 or whomever talking crap. Well they're just talking crap. Well 234 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:52.759 they win the game and they want to stalk crap. Yeah, 235 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:55.480 there's I mean, you take care of your business. Yeah, right, 236 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:57.720 Like Bill Belichick said, I mean, I just want you 237 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:00.200 to do your job. If everybody does their job, we've 238 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:02.600 got a good chance of winning. Don't let things happen, 239 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:05.559 don't let other people's voices tune what you're out. If 240 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:07.279 you don't want courch storming on your court, guess what 241 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:07.559 you do. 242 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:10.600 You win? You win the damn game. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 243 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:13.120 We were in the same philosophy, which is kind of boring. 244 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:14.879 Yeah, you want to mix it up a little bit. 245 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:18.519 You're bigger than me. I don't want to give you 246 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:20.360 a bat. Did anybody have a baseball bat? I got 247 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:22.600 one in my car. Yeah, Well give me your keys 248 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:24.720 be read back? 249 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:28.080 Okay again today about Bob Hoffman, we haven't spoken to him. 250 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.720 I haven't in a while. Good job with the Roadrunners. Uh, 251 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:34.639 still connected to the pros. You know that that marriage 252 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:35.159 that was there? 253 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:38.159 Yeah with Utah. Yeah, they're they're triple. I mean, it's great. 254 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:39.720 We've got a Triple Like we talked about all the time. 255 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:41.279 You've got a Triple A team in your backyard, we 256 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:43.639 need to support them. And I was having this conversation 257 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:45.639 on a different show the other day and I want 258 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:48.639 your guy. I know I did. I'm not going to 259 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:51.559 name names. Listen to it's a good time show, but 260 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:56.679 I'm not gonna you guys don't know what I'm talking about, 261 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:58.360 but you do, Yeah, I want to. I want to 262 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.200 ask you guys this question because the conversation we've had 263 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:03.960 this before, and the debate is is Tucson a sports town? 264 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:04.200 Right? 265 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:06.840 And I want to believe that that's the kids, And 266 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:10.120 that's why I'm asking both of you guys, But I 267 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:13.039 want your opinion. First. Do you think Tucson is a 268 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:14.919 sports down because we're p mc County is a million 269 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:16.879 and a half people, right, we should be able to 270 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:17.360 sustain those. 271 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:18.559 The good thing is we have a choice of a 272 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:20.159 guy who didn't grow up here and a guy who 273 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:21.279 did grow up So. 274 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:25.080 Tucson is a sports town. Are we support sports town? 275 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:26.120 I don't think so. 276 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:29.679 Yeah, that's but we talked about this, talked about why I've. 277 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:33.399 Actually had this conversation recently in the class where you 278 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:36.279 have these kids where some of the only options are 279 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:40.159 to become a successful athlete to get your your your 280 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:42.200 living situation into a better place. 281 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:44.399 Yes, so I have to be a. 282 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:46.840 Sports person and this has to be a sports town 283 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:48.519 for people to have success. 284 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:51.960 You ask him the question that we were talking about 285 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:55.879 yesterday at lunch. What makes it not that sports town? 286 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:57.559 Though? Yeah, So that's what I was getting to because 287 00:11:57.559 --> 00:11:59.679 we were having this debate last night because the road 288 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:02.519 Runner playing Calgary. Calgary's got a Triple A hockey team 289 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:04.679 and an NHL team in the same city and they're 290 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:07.399 a smaller city than we are, right, But the conversation 291 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:10.279 we were having is that has anybody every fully like 292 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:12.519 have we sent out a survey? Have we asked fans 293 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:15.519 why they aren't attending games? Like what what's the difference 294 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.440 between our city versus l Passo? Like why are they 295 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:20.639 able to draw the fans that they do? And we're 296 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:23.279 not right, Uh, And that's a question for you guys, 297 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:25.759 because you're the youth movement and you can change you 298 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:27.960 can change the course of where Tucson s had not 299 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:31.720 but everything everything you. 300 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:33.919 Know, certain sports, even I don't know what the attendance 301 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:37.679 is that sugar schools sugar schools. So do you have 302 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:40.000 that answer a little bit? 303 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:40.720 A little bit. 304 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:43.399 I think the city is a little bit spoiled when 305 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:47.120 it comes to Arizona basketball. There's a lot of success. 306 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:50.519 So that one bar that raised the bar raises the bar. 307 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.200 It sets the bar for expectations, for expectation. Okay, so 308 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:57.600 when you have a program like Arizona football who goes 309 00:12:57.639 --> 00:13:01.840 four and eight, you're not to get many fans. That's 310 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.360 because everyone's waiting for Arizona basketball. 311 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:05.480 Almost every year. 312 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:08.559 You can guarantee Arizona basketball is gonna be good in 313 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:09.919 some way, shape or form. 314 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:14.120 Does money play a part well finances to in Tucson, 315 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:16.600 Because if you have a certain bucket of money and 316 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:18.480 you want to kind of go do this or do that, 317 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.279 and you can't go to football because you're saving it 318 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:22.120 for basketball, you don't want to your budget. 319 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:24.919 Yeah, I think that that's that does come into play. 320 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:27.799 Where would I rather spend a little bit here with 321 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:29.440 the road Runners and then maybe a little bit with 322 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:33.559 Arizona football or do I play all for Arizona basketball. 323 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:35.480 I think most people in Tuscon are gonna say I'm 324 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:38.159 gonna put it for Arizona basketball because there's a better chance 325 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.840 I go see a win or even a decent game. 326 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:43.320 Okay, No, so Ray, you're not from here. You've been 327 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:45.080 here a few months now, right, a few months or 328 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:47.360 a few years, a few years, okay, So it is 329 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:50.039 to put your question, is it a sports town? 330 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:52.519 I think it's a sports sound, but only for the 331 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:56.440 darlings of Tucson, if that makes sense. So kind of 332 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:59.639 like wa Juana's saying, it not too much because like 333 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:02.559 not how many people are, well, they're fans, but I 334 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:04.279 will say they won't spend money. So I go to 335 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.840 the games and like you know, show out for for 336 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:09.519 Arizona football and stuff, but they will for Arizona basketball. 337 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:12.679 Also kind of what I've noticed, it feels a lot 338 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:15.200 more like a basketball town than anything else. So I think, 339 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:17.759 like you know, if the Suns had their G League 340 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:20.039 team here, I think I don't people would probably show up. 341 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:21.159 For So I don't think they would. 342 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:23.480 Yeah, And that's the debate because we're going to we're 343 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:25.399 going through this with one of our teams that we're 344 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:27.360 talking about right now with on Ocera Group Cut could 345 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:30.480 potentially bring a basketball team here, professional basketball team as well. 346 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.000 Stuff you can say, yeah, I'm not going into it. 347 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:36.240 I'm not naming names. It's just a concept that we're discusting, discusting, 348 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:40.240 and the debate is could we sustain two teams? And 349 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:43.559 that's a ray. You're absolutely right. I mean we don't know, right, 350 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:45.559 I mean, and you view it as a basketball town. 351 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:48.120 I'm always going to view as a baseball town. You 352 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:50.799 have a basketball obviously is the Mountain Rushmore. But because 353 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:53.279 we were we were raised on Major League Baseball, and 354 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:55.600 most two Zonins that are in the you know, professional 355 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:58.919 sports are big League baseball players. I mean you can 356 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:02.240 name maybe and full of basketball players. A couple handfuls 357 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:05.120 of football players, mostly big leaguers are are are baseball 358 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:08.519 players here. So you're right. The cross contamination between the 359 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:12.080 sports here is always short, right, There's not a lot 360 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:14.080 of mixture, and I think that's where we need to 361 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:15.960 blur the lines as a community. And this isn't my 362 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.480 own thought process. I could be completely wrong that we 363 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:22.159 look at sports as a whole and not individualistically. Sure, 364 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:24.240 so it's not just you a basketball or you a 365 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:26.759 football or two some road Runners or the Sugar Skulls. 366 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:28.440 It's sports, Like we're going to go out to this 367 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:31.000 event because it's an event that's going to support the community. 368 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:33.240 It's at a cheaper costant almost any other city you 369 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.399 can go to and you're gonna have a good time. 370 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.600 Like if I'm not a hockey guy, but going to 371 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:40.039 a hockey game is it's exciting. I'm not a bull 372 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:41.480 riding guy, but when I went to I told you this, 373 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:43.840 when I went to BBR, like unbelievable, Like I was 374 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:44.960 out of my seat by the end of it. And 375 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:46.519 it was the first time I went to one. I 376 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:49.120 was like, every year I'm going to this. This is incredible, right, 377 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:51.279 I Mean, you get that same feeling in different sports, 378 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:54.440 but you just have to experience. Do people Do people know? See, 379 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:56.440 that's the question I think that. Yeah, when we were 380 00:15:56.440 --> 00:16:01.720 having like where is that? You know, the antiquated version 381 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:05.440 of getting the message out is potentially changing, right, so 382 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:07.480 how do we all how do we merge that and 383 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:10.519 make it a simpler marketplace to find information. 384 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:12.399 This discussion gots so good. We got to get out 385 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:14.440 of here because we've got to get a hoppin. We'll 386 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:16.120 take some calls. 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