Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Wrapping things up in Chicago. The
Speaker 1: convention is over, the coming out party is over. Now
Speaker 1: as the dust settles, we'll find out what the polling
Speaker 1: tells us. Do I believe the polling, Absolutely not. We
Speaker 1: were screwed over in twenty sixteen, haven't believed them since.
Speaker 1: But I am interested just to see what the information says.
Speaker 2: And it's expected that Kamala Harris and Tim Walls would
Speaker 2: get a bump whatever that is, three points five points?
Speaker 1: Does that when the dust settles next week, after this
Speaker 1: is all over, I mean the RNC you thought Trump
Speaker 1: was unbeatable, right.
Speaker 3: He was, I mean, at the US point he was.
Speaker 1: But then a couple of days go by, and the
Speaker 1: nature of the news cycle right now is so crazy.
Speaker 3: It's so quick.
Speaker 1: We're so inundated with information from all parts of life,
Speaker 1: pop culture, entertainment, politics, news, We're inundated with all these alerts.
Speaker 4: So it's fleeting.
Speaker 1: It's very fleeting that the power you have today could
Speaker 1: be completely gone by tomorrow.
Speaker 2: My wife refers to it as alarm fatigue, I think
Speaker 2: is what she said. I happen to be talking about
Speaker 2: the sirens. I mean the sirens around our hotel were biquit.
Speaker 2: I mean all week they were non stop.
Speaker 4: That's a good point.
Speaker 1: When when I heard the first siren when we were there,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, let's settle about. By the time
Speaker 1: we left, it was just like, I don't even flinch
Speaker 1: for a siren because they were everywhere, so.
Speaker 3: Likely that we're very numb to.
Speaker 2: And I think that explains kind of I mean, you
Speaker 2: and I our fatigue of doing this all week. There's
Speaker 2: a fatigue to it because we are inundated with it.
Speaker 2: I mean it's constant now, granted we're here, and that's
Speaker 2: obviously the point of why we did this here this
Speaker 2: week was to bring the biggest story, but it was.
Speaker 2: It is something to kind of keep in mind that
Speaker 2: you can get numb to whatever's going on.
Speaker 1: It also highlights how easy it is to be sucked
Speaker 1: in to the echo chamber, like if you're a Democrat
Speaker 1: or if you're a Republican and you're only reading your own.
Speaker 4: Medicine, Yeah, you get stuck in the album.
Speaker 3: You get stuck in that so a couple of stories.
Speaker 2: In terms of other stories that are going on, at
Speaker 2: least five members of the Secret Service have been placed
Speaker 2: on administrative leave after the assassination attempt against former President
Speaker 2: Trump in Pennsylvania. One member of the Personal Protective Team
Speaker 2: and four members of the Secret Services Pittsburgh Field Office,
Speaker 2: including the Special Agent in charge, have been placed on leave.
Speaker 2: Federal agents raided the homes of Orange County Supervisor Andrew
Speaker 2: Doe and his daughter an investigation into the alleged improper
Speaker 2: use of taxpayer money. They had at least five locations
Speaker 2: that they went into, including several homes and a restaurant,
Speaker 2: searched in connection with the allegations that were made against
Speaker 2: a local nonprofit, the Viet America Society, in a lawsuit
Speaker 2: that was brought by the county list.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about JD Van's awkward trip to the
Speaker 1: donut shop, our friend general. The awkwardness of JD. Vance
Speaker 1: at the donut shop trying to act like a regular
Speaker 1: member of society. It reminds me of a nineteen year
Speaker 1: old on a college trip to Haiti trying to act
Speaker 1: like a necessary member of the Peace Corps. It's like somebody,
Speaker 1: hurry up. And take a picture of this bee holding
Speaker 1: a shovel so she can post it on Instagram and
Speaker 1: go home.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So cutting Vey, you have plans on Sunday, you can
Speaker 2: be flying back.
Speaker 1: Yes, I have plans to fly home. No, I will
Speaker 1: be I will fly home on Saturday night. You should
Speaker 1: a football game.
Speaker 2: You should make an attempt to get to opening night
Speaker 2: of Burning Man.
Speaker 4: Ooh tempting, but I'm all fresh out of energy.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So Gavin Newsom is a character that we saw all week.
Speaker 2: It's kind of in the shadows wishing that this was
Speaker 2: a party for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so desperate and not demrror, not mindful.
Speaker 3: He would also.
Speaker 2: I mean it was expected, of course that he was
Speaker 2: going to at one point run for president, right, we
Speaker 2: knew that that was that it didn't materialize.
Speaker 3: And we don't know why. Yes we do.
Speaker 2: He's weird and to use their term against him one
Speaker 2: of the issues that came up. He did an interview yesterday.
Speaker 2: He did an interview yesterday with Brett Beaar from Fox News.
Speaker 2: I'm up right, Oscar, and it was about this. Brett
Speaker 2: asked a great question. They're sitting in that Fox News
Speaker 2: booth over the convention floor, and he points to the
Speaker 2: stage behind and says, didn't you want this to be you?
Speaker 5: Boy?
Speaker 1: The last registration and we appreciate you coming on and
Speaker 1: taking tough questions. Is there any little part of you
Speaker 1: that wants to be on that stage to night accepted
Speaker 1: this nominal?
Speaker 3: No, just a little bit.
Speaker 6: No, No, I don't need the stress of my life.
Speaker 6: I like my kids.
Speaker 3: I like somebuddy tail.
Speaker 6: I was able to bring them the school first day
Speaker 6: of school on Monday. That's that's the joy that I'm experiencing.
Speaker 6: That's just the joy that in the convention, I'll be
Speaker 6: in the front row. You'll see me applauding a friend
Speaker 6: of almost thirty years.
Speaker 3: We knew each other before we were both in.
Speaker 6: And what an honor that is to be here as
Speaker 6: governor despite all our challenges, And it's an honor to be.
Speaker 3: Here with you.
Speaker 6: Or that's like the Oscars, a fourth night Governor.
Speaker 2: What a mess I will say. I commend him for
Speaker 2: going on Fox News. That's not a that's not a
Speaker 2: friendly place for him to go.
Speaker 1: He will run to any microphone that presents itself. He's
Speaker 1: a hooker in the street.
Speaker 2: We we contacted him all week and all last week
Speaker 2: to try to get him, because we knew he was.
Speaker 3: Going to be.
Speaker 1: Frankly glad we didn't get him. It would have been
Speaker 1: because I was not going to be a very demure
Speaker 1: and mindful person.
Speaker 3: And that's very demure, very I was.
Speaker 4: Not going to be.
Speaker 3: That was not going to be you.
Speaker 4: I was going to say things like who are you really?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: Like what I get it? You had a pet order?
Speaker 1: You think that that makes you a human? That makes
Speaker 1: you a crazy person and completely not like any of
Speaker 1: us who had cats and dogs. It makes you even
Speaker 1: richer that your pet was an order, Like.
Speaker 3: Who are Like?
Speaker 4: I wanted to like have a series.
Speaker 1: Of questions, you know, like first date questions of finding
Speaker 1: out who this person is and getting real answers, and
Speaker 1: then when he didn't give me real answers, to highlight
Speaker 1: that and be like, you're not a human. You're not
Speaker 1: answering this like a human.
Speaker 2: I thought your description of him, I don't know if
Speaker 2: you said it on the air, but I know you
Speaker 2: said it.
Speaker 3: We talked about it off there too.
Speaker 2: Is just that he's a you know, well you don't
Speaker 2: know who he is, right, but you know guys like him,
Speaker 2: And I mean that in a derogatory way. You know
Speaker 2: guys like him, right, and that you, as a woman
Speaker 2: would stay away from guys like him.
Speaker 1: My gut has always led me into the right situations
Speaker 1: when it comes to running away from bad people.
Speaker 3: At the right time.
Speaker 7: Time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and she's laying some people out. We are
Speaker 2: live in Chicago, of.
Speaker 4: Course it is day domestic violence.
Speaker 3: Spent the day.
Speaker 2: He spent the week at the Democratic National Convention being
Speaker 2: ignored by certain politicians, meeting some other people.
Speaker 1: Okay, so who are we most ignored? It was Karen Bass,
Speaker 1: Karen Bass Sanders or no, did we effort Bertie Sanders
Speaker 1: at something?
Speaker 3: We did just a little bit.
Speaker 4: But he had a mob around him.
Speaker 3: It was kind of like Cordy Booker.
Speaker 7: Cordy Booker was, I mean, he had the best detail
Speaker 7: where he was walking unto his people around him like
Speaker 7: a little shield, like little Roman soldiers, and they were
Speaker 7: swatting people away. Because I tried to get in there too,
Speaker 7: and like I almost got my hand hit.
Speaker 1: I was like, but at least we got one socialist
Speaker 1: on in Cornell West. He Michael pointed out to us
Speaker 1: by the way that he reminded him of Victor brick
Speaker 1: and I think that hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 2: That was a great that I didn't think about that
Speaker 2: until afterwards. And it's a perfect description of doctor Cornell was.
Speaker 1: And he walked away, and you and I both looked
Speaker 1: at each other and said, we are high. We have
Speaker 1: not smoked weed in decades, and we are high as
Speaker 1: a kite.
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Speaker 4: Jen poor kfi. Does anyone really listen to the messages
Speaker 4: that we send over? Oh yeah, no all the time.
Speaker 3: No, what do you mean, No, we don't listen to
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Speaker 5: I think Kamala Harris was very much underrated. I think
Speaker 5: that she is going to surprise us as she did yesterday,
Speaker 5: and all this lowdown time has just helped her come
Speaker 5: out of her political show. And Shannon, it's Berns and.
Speaker 4: Hi my accent.
Speaker 3: I know it's awful. It always has.
Speaker 8: That, Carrie, Shannon, Yola, you know what, You're right that
Speaker 8: I got pulled over. No, I'll call you guys back.
Speaker 1: I need to hear my daily message from you. Don't
Speaker 1: let the law interfere with that.
Speaker 3: He's too happy about that.
Speaker 1: So there was a column the La Times today and
Speaker 1: this was the headline, Kamala Harris faced a high bar
Speaker 1: in convention speech. She soared past it, to which I say,
Speaker 1: did we watch the same speech? It was fine, it
Speaker 1: was safe, It was calculated. It was not Reagan, It
Speaker 1: was not Margaret Margaret Thatcher. It was not soaring past
Speaker 1: any sort of bar. It was at the bar, or
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit below. It was not personalized. It
Speaker 1: was not a human speech.
Speaker 2: It was political gobblybook. We are expecting at the top
Speaker 2: of the hour, Robert F. Kennedy Junior to drop out,
Speaker 2: to drop his in dependent presidential race campaign, I should say,
Speaker 2: And then the other expectation is that he would likely
Speaker 2: endorse Donald Trump. Now, Nicole Shanahan is his vice presidential
Speaker 2: running mate, and she when we talked about I believe
Speaker 2: it was Wednesday, the first time she had said something
Speaker 2: on a podcast about sort of dispelling the rumors that
Speaker 2: somehow they went to the Harris campaign and were begging
Speaker 2: for a cabinet position or the same thing with the
Speaker 2: with the Trump campaign. So we knew that this was
Speaker 2: going to happen. We knew that the writing was on
Speaker 2: the wall for them. Does that come out if it's
Speaker 2: not true? Because he denied both of those instances. It's like,
Speaker 2: how does that come out if we didn't make that call.
Speaker 2: My understanding is that he he has reached out to
Speaker 2: both campaigns, but not in a way to say I
Speaker 2: want a cabinet position.
Speaker 3: Or any sort of that.
Speaker 4: Like what he said, Why is he reaching out?
Speaker 2: Well, part of the reason is he felt like he
Speaker 2: was he was kept out of the debates for one thing, although.
Speaker 4: The other campaign no power in that, not.
Speaker 2: Necessarily, but they could have also put pressure on CNN,
Speaker 2: for example, when they did the debate in June, they
Speaker 2: could have put pressure on the network to include Robert Kens.
Speaker 4: Did he reach around and circle back?
Speaker 3: I doubt it, but we'll say.
Speaker 2: Nicole Shanahan tweeted, my old DEM buddies have been flooding
Speaker 2: me with frantic calls, texts, and emails. Unlike Roe, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't dream of airing those private conversations publicly. I think
Speaker 2: she refers to Roe Conna there. I'm not quite sure,
Speaker 2: but the message is clear. They're terrified of the idea
Speaker 2: of our movement joining forces with Donald Trump. And when
Speaker 2: I point out with the Democratic Party and their super
Speaker 2: packs have done to sabotage, sabotage our campaign, their response
Speaker 2: is always quote, but Trump is worse. Here's an idea.
Speaker 2: Stop suing us, let us debate, quit rigging the media
Speaker 2: and the polls. It's a simple formula of people, get
Speaker 2: with it. She also in a podcast, interviewed Paul Bond,
Speaker 2: longtime writer for Newsweek Vanity Fair I believe, and he
Speaker 2: said that there was clearly an effort to keep stories
Speaker 2: about Kennedy out of the meeting.
Speaker 9: The story never ran. They wouldn't allow to run. And
Speaker 9: Bobby said to me, after talking to me for an hour,
Speaker 9: he said, I said, you know, you know, thanks a lot.
Speaker 9: I mean, you don't even know me. We talked for
Speaker 9: an hour. You're a busy guy, he said, yeah. And this,
Speaker 9: this story will never run. So he predicted it, and
Speaker 9: which made me want to report on him even more
Speaker 9: because he confirmed my suspicions that reporters are talking to him,
Speaker 9: but they're not getting their stories published.
Speaker 3: He's not getting on air.
Speaker 10: I just was on the phone this morning with this
Speaker 10: young journalist, bright eyed, who's been following our campaign NonStop.
Speaker 10: He knows all the details, but he hasn't been allowed
Speaker 10: to report on it. This is Will McDuffie at ABC.
Speaker 3: Oh very good again.
Speaker 2: That's Nicole Shanahan on her podcast this morning with that
Speaker 2: longtime writer.
Speaker 1: Just did he do like a Kennedy's speech accent my
Speaker 1: my speech? My speech isn't all but fun of the voice,
Speaker 1: not make fun of it, but kind of mimic it.
Speaker 2: You mean when he was saying that it's not gonna
Speaker 2: that the story's not gonna air.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, and this this story will.
Speaker 2: Never run like the Lilt the Little Okay doing the
Speaker 2: show again from Chicago or not at the United Center
Speaker 2: this time when they shut it down, they shut it down.
Speaker 3: The inside of the arena is still lit up.
Speaker 2: You could see some of the TV stations, the cable
Speaker 2: channels that were still doing their they're using their sets,
Speaker 2: utilizing their sets. But everything else around the United Center
Speaker 2: is completely torn up. Once they get that the balloon
Speaker 2: drop and everything. I mean, they had the chairs off
Speaker 2: of the floor within probably thirty or forty five minutes
Speaker 2: of the Vice President finishing her speech last week.
Speaker 11: OD you admittion socialists. You two are very fine at
Speaker 11: your socialism. Not covering the Republicans, but you're covering the dims.
Speaker 3: Bah, good job.
Speaker 1: We told you repeatedly we wanted to go to the RNC.
Speaker 1: We asked for it, we begged for it. They didn't
Speaker 1: get their act together at the station until all hell
Speaker 1: broke loose following that convention and said, Okay, we've got
Speaker 1: to go to the next one.
Speaker 4: And we knew this is not a choice.
Speaker 2: And we knew that that was going to be a concern.
Speaker 2: I mean, we knew that people were going to think
Speaker 2: that that's you know, that that was motivation.
Speaker 4: Of these people.
Speaker 3: We don't choose that's the better way to put it.
Speaker 4: Although I did find people I liked this week.
Speaker 1: You know, Antonio Viragosa sounded smarter than he's ever sounded.
Speaker 4: I was talking my husband about this.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I covered him when I was a reporter,
Speaker 1: and maybe it's because he was mayor of LA and
Speaker 1: there was a lot going on and he kind of
Speaker 1: fell into the whole celebrity aspect of it and he
Speaker 1: wasn't focused and so when every would hold a pressI availability,
Speaker 1: it would be like, uh, you know, you've heard it
Speaker 1: all on Johnny Ken, right, But he was hyper focused.
Speaker 1: When we spoke to him yesterday, he was on point,
Speaker 1: he was making sense, and he had clear I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't agree with everything, but he was likable.
Speaker 4: He wasn't swarmy to me the way that he used
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because we I mean we talked with him,
Speaker 2: kind of asked him about Gavin Newsom because he referred
Speaker 2: to having met with Gavin, and Gavin Newsom actually asked
Speaker 2: him to be I think he said it was the
Speaker 2: infrastructures are I don't remember exactly what the position was called,
Speaker 2: but he was. So he's worked with Gavin Newsom before,
Speaker 2: and we were in our minds kind of comparing the two.
Speaker 2: Where again, yet you don't I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know any political stance that that Antonio Vierra Gosa has
Speaker 2: that I agree with. But he's a guy that I
Speaker 2: could sit there and have the at least have those conversations.
Speaker 4: But he made sense.
Speaker 1: Like we asked him about George Gascone and he was like,
Speaker 1: we've got to we've got to clean this up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not about throwing homeless people in prison,
Speaker 1: but we've got to do something. And I think that's
Speaker 1: the opinion of most reasonable people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he said, you.
Speaker 1: Know, he admitted that California isn't a bad spot. San Francisco, La.
Speaker 1: They're unrecognizable from fifteen twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: We talked a lot about the Chris Watts case from
Speaker 2: August of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4: It's horrible.
Speaker 2: He was accused of killing his wife, Shannon, and a
Speaker 2: couple of daughters, and his was his image was The
Speaker 2: images I should say that stick in my mind about
Speaker 2: him are the bodycam footage of the police officers that
Speaker 2: came into the house the day after they were reported missing,
Speaker 2: and he just seemed so calm, and he had just
Speaker 2: killed three people that were the closest.
Speaker 1: It was so reminiscent of Scott Peterson. And I started
Speaker 1: to watch that Peacock documentary yesterday about Scott Peterson talking
Speaker 1: from jail, and I turned it off within maybe four
Speaker 1: and a half minutes when he started talking because he
Speaker 1: doesn't get he doesn't get to talk about his dead
Speaker 1: wife and child Connor. He doesn't get to like, why
Speaker 1: are we giving him a platform? It rubs me the
Speaker 1: wrong way. And Chris Watts was exactly And you know,
Speaker 1: Mark gerragis said when Chris, when Scott Peterson was arrested, well,
Speaker 1: there's no playbook for grief. You know, you don't know
Speaker 1: how you're going to respond, And this is the way
Speaker 1: Scott responded. No, this is a way a sociopath who
Speaker 1: murders their wife because they're in an affair, that's how
Speaker 1: they behave right now, we have a pattern of behavior.
Speaker 3: In this case.
Speaker 2: Some newly revealed letters show that Chris Watts used to
Speaker 2: say that his wife was a control freak and that
Speaker 2: he only cheated on her with his mistress because the
Speaker 2: mistress was everything the wife wasn't like with me. The
Speaker 2: New York Post had several handwritten notes from this guy
Speaker 2: serving a life sentence of course at a Dodge correctional
Speaker 2: institution in Wisconsin for these murders. He said he admitted
Speaker 2: to strangling Shannon in their Colorado home August to twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: drove her body to a job site at the oil
Speaker 2: company where he worked, and then dumped her. Two daughters
Speaker 2: were in his truck, said that they he killed them
Speaker 2: and then stashed their bodies in oil drums, and he
Speaker 2: said the motive was so that he could be with
Speaker 2: his mistress, Nicole he pleaded guilty sentence to life in prison.
Speaker 4: He does he think that this is a legitimate defense?
Speaker 4: Like does he?
Speaker 1: Is he that tone deaf that he thinks that like
Speaker 1: this mistress tempted him and led him to kill his wife.
Speaker 1: And it's his wife's fault too because she's so controlling
Speaker 1: and his mistress was letting him do all the things
Speaker 1: that his wife didn't. Well, I don't mean sexually, he
Speaker 1: said in his statement. She was everything my wife wasn't
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: This is a here's here's a fun twist. No, but
Speaker 2: here's a fun twist. I know, not just those letters.
Speaker 2: Some of this information comes from the guy in the
Speaker 2: next cell, by the way, guy named Dylan Tallman, Well
Speaker 2: Perkins operation fellow prisoner there. Tallman was in the cell
Speaker 2: next to Chris Watts, and the two men became close.
Speaker 2: They had agreed to write get this a prayer book
Speaker 2: together that's rich, but Chris Watts eventually decided against it.
Speaker 2: So Dylan Tolman released a series of three books called
Speaker 2: The Cell next Door and talked about some of the
Speaker 2: stuff that he learned while he was in prison.
Speaker 1: Can I quote from the Bible of Chris Watts in
Speaker 1: his prayer book if you'd like. In one letter in
Speaker 1: the Bible letter to Paul dated March twenty twenty, Sorry
Speaker 1: that was inappropriate, good, he wrote. Chris Wats wrote a
Speaker 1: prayer of confession, quoting, now the words of a harlot
Speaker 1: have brought me low. Her flattering speech was like drops
Speaker 1: of honey, bad subject verb, disagreement there that pierced my
Speaker 1: heart and soul. Little did I know that all her
Speaker 1: guests were in the chamber of death.
Speaker 4: He's blaming his mistress.
Speaker 1: For him strangling and killing his three and four year
Speaker 1: old daughters.
Speaker 2: Well, if he's capable of doing that, his brain clearly
Speaker 2: doesn't work right.
Speaker 3: Awful. It's not a huge surprise.
Speaker 2: Live in Chicago, wrapping up the week here for the
Speaker 2: Democratic National Convention. Back back in southern California for next week.
Speaker 2: In fact, Shannon's doing the football game. Chargers actually have
Speaker 2: a game in Dallas tomorrow. So I was reading through
Speaker 2: New York Times had an interesting look at and I
Speaker 2: was mentioning this earlier when we were talking to Joe
Speaker 2: Khalil from News Nation.
Speaker 3: We got seventy four days left.
Speaker 2: Seventy four days and as much of a honeymoon as
Speaker 2: this week will be for Kamala Harrison for Tim Walls.
Speaker 2: Peter Baker wrote this pretty eloquent paragraph that I wanted
Speaker 2: to read just because I think it encapsulates the concern
Speaker 2: that Democrats are going to have over the next couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. It says the buzzkill reality is that victory
Speaker 2: is anything but assured. The thousands of jubilant delegates in
Speaker 2: the hall this week were not representative of the swing
Speaker 2: voters that Harris needs to defeat former President Trump. History
Speaker 2: is littered with presidential candidates who roused their partisans at conventions,
Speaker 2: only to fall short come November. And whatever else he is,
Speaker 2: Trump is no pushover. Harris can expect a bruising battle
Speaker 2: over the next two and a half months. One of
Speaker 2: the big developments of course today is that we're expecting
Speaker 2: Robert F. Kennedy to end his independent presidential campaign. We're
Speaker 2: watching a live feed from a looks like a podium
Speaker 2: that's been set up in Phoenix, so there's people in
Speaker 2: the room, but Kennedy's not there yet. He is expected
Speaker 2: to throw his support behind at former President Trump. That's
Speaker 2: coming up at the top of the hour. We also
Speaker 2: know that Kennedy withdrew from the ballot in Arizona late yesterday,
Speaker 2: so if that means something. Also, speaking of former President Trump,
Speaker 2: he said that he's not going to be getting intelligence
Speaker 2: briefings for fear that he would be accused of leaking
Speaker 2: classified information. Now he's a leading candidate. He is the
Speaker 2: Republican nominee, and usually intelligence agencies do offer briefings to
Speaker 2: presidential candidates once they've actually received the nomination, in which
Speaker 2: he has obviously, and he said. Former President told the
Speaker 2: Daily Mail he could now get the briefings if he
Speaker 2: wanted them, but he thinks it's a trap. He said,
Speaker 2: I don't want them because, number one, I know what's happening.
Speaker 2: It's very easy to see what's happening, and then said
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want them to think that I leaked information.
Speaker 2: So one of the developments also about former President Trump
Speaker 2: is now at least five members of the Secret Service
Speaker 2: have been placed on administrative leave after the July thirteenth
Speaker 2: assassination attempt against him in Butler, PA. One member of
Speaker 2: Trump's personal protective team, and four members of the Secret
Speaker 2: Service's Pittsburgh Field office, including the special Agent in charge,
Speaker 2: have been put on leave for different reasons, and we're
Speaker 2: now six weeks out. If you remember Kimberly Cheadle, the
Speaker 2: former head of the Secret Service, she resigned her job
Speaker 2: just after about two weeks. So Tom Girardi's been on
Speaker 2: the stand. Tom Girardi, of course, longtime lawyer who was
Speaker 2: accused of misappropriation of millions of dollars in settlement funds
Speaker 2: that were supposed to go to his clients that were
Speaker 2: allegedly fueling his and his wife's lifestyles back in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: almost four years ago. Now, his law firm basically just
Speaker 2: blew up. He was accused of stealing a bunch of
Speaker 2: the settlement money from widows and orphans in an Indonesian
Speaker 2: plane crash. Hundreds of former clients and vendors came forward
Speaker 2: said that they were collectively cheated out of hundreds of
Speaker 2: millions of dollars as well. And he took the stand
Speaker 2: yesterday in his own defense. Eighty five years old. It's
Speaker 2: the first time he's spoken publicly about these allegations. And
Speaker 2: he got up to the stand and with the trembling
Speaker 2: hands of an eighty five year old man that is
Speaker 2: not uncommon.
Speaker 3: He would talk about.
Speaker 2: The success of his law firm, and he said the
Speaker 2: firm was doing so well because of the wonderful people
Speaker 2: who work there and still work there, the attorneys. The
Speaker 2: public defender called him trying to kind of test Tom
Speaker 2: Girardi's mental acuity, and he'd ask things like is your
Speaker 2: law firm still open? And ask what's my name to
Speaker 2: Tom Girardi and he would say, I don't know, bad,
Speaker 2: mean terrible, It's one of those. Girardi said he worked
Speaker 2: more than fifty hours a week, took on a bunch
Speaker 2: of big cases, like the suit against PG and E
Speaker 2: that was featured in Aaron Brockovich, But when asked about
Speaker 2: specific cases in which he was accused of stealing that money,
Speaker 2: he talked about, well, those are not the cases I did.
Speaker 2: I didn't do any misconduct, or I didn't there was
Speaker 2: no misconduct. But when asked about a specific person in
Speaker 2: this case, a guy named Joseph Ruy Gomez won a
Speaker 2: settlement of more than fifty million dollars for the burns
Speaker 2: that he suffered after that huge gas explosion you remember
Speaker 2: up in San Bruno, Girardi said he did work on
Speaker 2: the case but did not misappropriate the funds. Now Ruy
Speaker 2: Gomez was a guy who after he went all through
Speaker 2: his treatment, got hooked on painkillers. But Girardi claimed that
Speaker 2: Ruy Gomez and another client had drug problems and said
Speaker 2: the reason that he was withholding the money was because
Speaker 2: they had drug problems. That Ruy Gomez's mother told him,
Speaker 2: you can't give him a bunch of money because he'll
Speaker 2: end up killing himself, and she says sorry. Tom said,
Speaker 2: I remember that I declare under penalty of perjury. In
Speaker 2: the first week of the trial, that guy was on
Speaker 2: the stand, Ruy Gomez, and he said after the explosion, yes,
Speaker 2: he did get a lot of pain medicine and did
Speaker 2: develop a drug dependency for a year, but never authorized
Speaker 2: him to withhold money, and neither did mom. So this
Speaker 2: is a if he comes across as you know, bumbling, mumbling, spitting,
Speaker 2: slobbering on himself, it's good for the defense. But if
Speaker 2: he comes across smart capable, prosecution is going to win
Speaker 2: on that one. So all right, and we're standing by
Speaker 2: for this news conference out of Arizona where Robert F.
Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior is expected to drop out of the race.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that when we continue. Gary and Shannon
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