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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. Wrapping things up in Chicago. The

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<v Speaker 1>convention is over, the coming out party is over. Now

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<v Speaker 1>as the dust settles, we'll find out what the polling

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<v Speaker 1>tells us. Do I believe the polling, Absolutely not. We

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<v Speaker 1>were screwed over in twenty sixteen, haven't believed them since.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am interested just to see what the information says.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's expected that Kamala Harris and Tim Walls would

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<v Speaker 2>get a bump whatever that is, three points five points?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that when the dust settles next week, after this

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<v Speaker 1>is all over, I mean the RNC you thought Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was unbeatable, right.

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<v Speaker 3>He was, I mean, at the US point he was.

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<v Speaker 1>But then a couple of days go by, and the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of the news cycle right now is so crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so quick.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so inundated with information from all parts of life,

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture, entertainment, politics, news, We're inundated with all these alerts.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's fleeting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very fleeting that the power you have today could

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<v Speaker 1>be completely gone by tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife refers to it as alarm fatigue, I think

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<v Speaker 2>is what she said. I happen to be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the sirens. I mean the sirens around our hotel were biquit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean all week they were non stop.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>When when I heard the first siren when we were there,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, let's settle about. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>we left, it was just like, I don't even flinch

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<v Speaker 1>for a siren because they were everywhere, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Likely that we're very numb to.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that explains kind of I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>and I our fatigue of doing this all week. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a fatigue to it because we are inundated with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's constant now, granted we're here, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the point of why we did this here this

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<v Speaker 2>week was to bring the biggest story, but it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It is something to kind of keep in mind that

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<v Speaker 2>you can get numb to whatever's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It also highlights how easy it is to be sucked

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<v Speaker 1>in to the echo chamber, like if you're a Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>or if you're a Republican and you're only reading your own.

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<v Speaker 4>Medicine, Yeah, you get stuck in the album.

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<v Speaker 3>You get stuck in that so a couple of stories.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of other stories that are going on, at

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<v Speaker 2>least five members of the Secret Service have been placed

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<v Speaker 2>on administrative leave after the assassination attempt against former President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump in Pennsylvania. One member of the Personal Protective Team

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<v Speaker 2>and four members of the Secret Services Pittsburgh Field Office,

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<v Speaker 2>including the Special Agent in charge, have been placed on leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Federal agents raided the homes of Orange County Supervisor Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>Doe and his daughter an investigation into the alleged improper

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<v Speaker 2>use of taxpayer money. They had at least five locations

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<v Speaker 2>that they went into, including several homes and a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 2>searched in connection with the allegations that were made against

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<v Speaker 2>a local nonprofit, the Viet America Society, in a lawsuit

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<v Speaker 2>that was brought by the county list.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about JD Van's awkward trip to the

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<v Speaker 1>donut shop, our friend general. The awkwardness of JD. Vance

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<v Speaker 1>at the donut shop trying to act like a regular

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<v Speaker 1>member of society. It reminds me of a nineteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old on a college trip to Haiti trying to act

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<v Speaker 1>like a necessary member of the Peace Corps. It's like somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>hurry up. And take a picture of this bee holding

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<v Speaker 1>a shovel so she can post it on Instagram and

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<v Speaker 1>go home.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So cutting Vey, you have plans on Sunday, you can

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<v Speaker 2>be flying back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I have plans to fly home. No, I will

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<v Speaker 1>be I will fly home on Saturday night. You should

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<v Speaker 1>a football game.

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<v Speaker 2>You should make an attempt to get to opening night

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<v Speaker 2>of Burning Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh tempting, but I'm all fresh out of energy.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So Gavin Newsom is a character that we saw all week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of in the shadows wishing that this was

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<v Speaker 2>a party for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so desperate and not demrror, not mindful.

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<v Speaker 3>He would also.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was expected, of course that he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to at one point run for president, right, we

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<v Speaker 2>knew that that was that it didn't materialize.

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<v Speaker 3>And we don't know why. Yes we do.

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<v Speaker 2>He's weird and to use their term against him one

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<v Speaker 2>of the issues that came up. He did an interview yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>He did an interview yesterday with Brett Beaar from Fox News.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm up right, Oscar, and it was about this. Brett

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<v Speaker 2>asked a great question. They're sitting in that Fox News

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<v Speaker 2>booth over the convention floor, and he points to the

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<v Speaker 2>stage behind and says, didn't you want this to be you?

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<v Speaker 5>Boy?

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<v Speaker 1>The last registration and we appreciate you coming on and

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<v Speaker 1>taking tough questions. Is there any little part of you

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<v Speaker 1>that wants to be on that stage to night accepted

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<v Speaker 1>this nominal?

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<v Speaker 3>No, just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>No, No, I don't need the stress of my life.

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<v Speaker 6>I like my kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I like somebuddy tail.

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<v Speaker 6>I was able to bring them the school first day

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<v Speaker 6>of school on Monday. That's that's the joy that I'm experiencing.

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<v Speaker 6>That's just the joy that in the convention, I'll be

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<v Speaker 6>in the front row. You'll see me applauding a friend

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<v Speaker 6>of almost thirty years.

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<v Speaker 3>We knew each other before we were both in.

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<v Speaker 6>And what an honor that is to be here as

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<v Speaker 6>governor despite all our challenges, And it's an honor to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Here with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Or that's like the Oscars, a fourth night Governor.

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<v Speaker 2>What a mess I will say. I commend him for

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<v Speaker 2>going on Fox News. That's not a that's not a

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<v Speaker 2>friendly place for him to go.

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<v Speaker 1>He will run to any microphone that presents itself. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a hooker in the street.

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<v Speaker 2>We we contacted him all week and all last week

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<v Speaker 2>to try to get him, because we knew he was.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Frankly glad we didn't get him. It would have been

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<v Speaker 1>because I was not going to be a very demure

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<v Speaker 1>and mindful person.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's very demure, very I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Not going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>That was not going to be you.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to say things like who are you really?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what I get it? You had a pet order?

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<v Speaker 1>You think that that makes you a human? That makes

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<v Speaker 1>you a crazy person and completely not like any of

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<v Speaker 1>us who had cats and dogs. It makes you even

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<v Speaker 1>richer that your pet was an order, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are Like?

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to like have a series.

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<v Speaker 1>Of questions, you know, like first date questions of finding

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<v Speaker 1>out who this person is and getting real answers, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when he didn't give me real answers, to highlight

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<v Speaker 1>that and be like, you're not a human. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>answering this like a human.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought your description of him, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you said it on the air, but I know you

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<v Speaker 2>said it.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about it off there too.

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<v Speaker 2>Is just that he's a you know, well you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know who he is, right, but you know guys like him,

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean that in a derogatory way. You know

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<v Speaker 2>guys like him, right, and that you, as a woman

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<v Speaker 2>would stay away from guys like him.

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<v Speaker 1>My gut has always led me into the right situations

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to running away from bad people.

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<v Speaker 3>At the right time.

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<v Speaker 7>Time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, and she's laying some people out. We are

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<v Speaker 2>live in Chicago, of.

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<v Speaker 4>Course it is day domestic violence.

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<v Speaker 3>Spent the day.

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<v Speaker 2>He spent the week at the Democratic National Convention being

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<v Speaker 2>ignored by certain politicians, meeting some other people.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so who are we most ignored? It was Karen Bass,

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Bass Sanders or no, did we effort Bertie Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>at something?

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<v Speaker 3>We did just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>But he had a mob around him.

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<v Speaker 3>It was kind of like Cordy Booker.

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<v Speaker 7>Cordy Booker was, I mean, he had the best detail

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<v Speaker 7>where he was walking unto his people around him like

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<v Speaker 7>a little shield, like little Roman soldiers, and they were

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<v Speaker 7>swatting people away. Because I tried to get in there too,

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<v Speaker 7>and like I almost got my hand hit.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, but at least we got one socialist

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<v Speaker 1>on in Cornell West. He Michael pointed out to us

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<v Speaker 1>by the way that he reminded him of Victor brick

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that hit the nail on the head.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a great that I didn't think about that

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<v Speaker 2>until afterwards. And it's a perfect description of doctor Cornell was.

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<v Speaker 1>And he walked away, and you and I both looked

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<v Speaker 1>at each other and said, we are high. We have

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<v Speaker 1>not smoked weed in decades, and we are high as

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<v Speaker 1>a kite.

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<v Speaker 2>You can send us messages on the talkback feature on

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<v Speaker 4>Jen poor kfi. Does anyone really listen to the messages

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<v Speaker 4>that we send over? Oh yeah, no all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>No, what do you mean, No, we don't listen to

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<v Speaker 3>those guys.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Kamala Harris was very much underrated. I think

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<v Speaker 5>that she is going to surprise us as she did yesterday,

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<v Speaker 5>and all this lowdown time has just helped her come

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<v Speaker 5>out of her political show. And Shannon, it's Berns and.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi my accent.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's awful. It always has.

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<v Speaker 8>That, Carrie, Shannon, Yola, you know what, You're right that

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<v Speaker 8>I got pulled over. No, I'll call you guys back.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to hear my daily message from you. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>let the law interfere with that.

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<v Speaker 3>He's too happy about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a column the La Times today and

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<v Speaker 1>this was the headline, Kamala Harris faced a high bar

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<v Speaker 1>in convention speech. She soared past it, to which I say,

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<v Speaker 1>did we watch the same speech? It was fine, it

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<v Speaker 1>was safe, It was calculated. It was not Reagan, It

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<v Speaker 1>was not Margaret Margaret Thatcher. It was not soaring past

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of bar. It was at the bar, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit below. It was not personalized. It

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<v Speaker 1>was not a human speech.

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<v Speaker 2>It was political gobblybook. We are expecting at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the hour, Robert F. Kennedy Junior to drop out,

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<v Speaker 2>to drop his in dependent presidential race campaign, I should say,

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<v Speaker 2>And then the other expectation is that he would likely

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<v Speaker 2>endorse Donald Trump. Now, Nicole Shanahan is his vice presidential

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<v Speaker 2>running mate, and she when we talked about I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it was Wednesday, the first time she had said something

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<v Speaker 2>on a podcast about sort of dispelling the rumors that

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<v Speaker 2>somehow they went to the Harris campaign and were begging

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<v Speaker 2>for a cabinet position or the same thing with the

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<v Speaker 2>how does that come out if we didn't make that call.

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<v Speaker 2>My understanding is that he he has reached out to

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<v Speaker 3>Or any sort of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Like what he said, Why is he reaching out?

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<v Speaker 4>The other campaign no power in that, not.

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<v Speaker 4>Did he reach around and circle back?

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<v Speaker 2>Nicole Shanahan tweeted, my old DEM buddies have been flooding

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<v Speaker 2>me with frantic calls, texts, and emails. Unlike Roe, I

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<v Speaker 2>but the message is clear. They're terrified of the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of our movement joining forces with Donald Trump. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I point out with the Democratic Party and their super

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<v Speaker 2>packs have done to sabotage, sabotage our campaign, their response

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<v Speaker 2>is always quote, but Trump is worse. Here's an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop suing us, let us debate, quit rigging the media

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<v Speaker 2>and the polls. It's a simple formula of people, get

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<v Speaker 2>with it. She also in a podcast, interviewed Paul Bond,

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<v Speaker 2>longtime writer for Newsweek Vanity Fair I believe, and he

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<v Speaker 2>said that there was clearly an effort to keep stories

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<v Speaker 9>The story never ran. They wouldn't allow to run. And

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<v Speaker 9>Bobby said to me, after talking to me for an hour,

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<v Speaker 9>this story will never run. So he predicted it, and

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<v Speaker 9>which made me want to report on him even more

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<v Speaker 9>because he confirmed my suspicions that reporters are talking to him,

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<v Speaker 10>I just was on the phone this morning with this

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<v Speaker 10>young journalist, bright eyed, who's been following our campaign NonStop.

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<v Speaker 10>He knows all the details, but he hasn't been allowed

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<v Speaker 10>to report on it. This is Will McDuffie at ABC.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh very good again.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Nicole Shanahan on her podcast this morning with that

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<v Speaker 1>Just did he do like a Kennedy's speech accent my

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<v Speaker 1>not make fun of it, but kind of mimic it.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean when he was saying that it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, and this this story will.

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<v Speaker 2>Never run like the Lilt the Little Okay doing the

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<v Speaker 2>this time when they shut it down, they shut it down.

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<v Speaker 3>The inside of the arena is still lit up.

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<v Speaker 2>You could see some of the TV stations, the cable

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<v Speaker 2>is completely torn up. Once they get that the balloon

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<v Speaker 2>drop and everything. I mean, they had the chairs off

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<v Speaker 2>of the floor within probably thirty or forty five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of the Vice President finishing her speech last week.

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<v Speaker 11>OD you admittion socialists. You two are very fine at

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<v Speaker 11>your socialism. Not covering the Republicans, but you're covering the dims.

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<v Speaker 3>Bah, good job.

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<v Speaker 1>We told you repeatedly we wanted to go to the RNC.

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<v Speaker 1>We asked for it, we begged for it. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get their act together at the station until all hell

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<v Speaker 1>broke loose following that convention and said, Okay, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the next one.

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<v Speaker 4>And we knew this is not a choice.

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<v Speaker 2>And we knew that that was going to be a concern.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we knew that people were going to think

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<v Speaker 2>that that's you know, that that was motivation.

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<v Speaker 4>Of these people.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't choose that's the better way to put it.

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<v Speaker 4>Although I did find people I liked this week.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Antonio Viragosa sounded smarter than he's ever sounded.

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<v Speaker 4>I was talking my husband about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I covered him when I was a reporter,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe it's because he was mayor of LA and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot going on and he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>it would be like, uh, you know, you've heard it

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<v Speaker 1>all on Johnny Ken, right, But he was hyper focused.

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<v Speaker 1>When we spoke to him yesterday, he was on point,

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<v Speaker 1>he was making sense, and he had clear I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with everything, but he was likable.

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<v Speaker 4>He wasn't swarmy to me the way that he used

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<v Speaker 2>And it's funny because we I mean we talked with him,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of asked him about Gavin Newsom because he referred

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<v Speaker 2>to having met with Gavin, and Gavin Newsom actually asked

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<v Speaker 2>infrastructures are I don't remember exactly what the position was called,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was. So he's worked with Gavin Newsom before,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were in our minds kind of comparing the two.

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<v Speaker 2>Where again, yet you don't I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know any political stance that that Antonio Vierra Gosa has

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<v Speaker 2>that I agree with. But he's a guy that I

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<v Speaker 4>But he made sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we asked him about George Gascone and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to we've got to clean this up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm not about throwing homeless people in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've got to do something. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he said, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, he admitted that California isn't a bad spot. San Francisco, La.

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<v Speaker 1>They're unrecognizable from fifteen twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked a lot about the Chris Watts case from

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<v Speaker 2>August of twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 4>It's horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>He was accused of killing his wife, Shannon, and a

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<v Speaker 2>came into the house the day after they were reported missing,

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<v Speaker 2>and he just seemed so calm, and he had just

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<v Speaker 1>It was so reminiscent of Scott Peterson. And I started

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<v Speaker 1>to watch that Peacock documentary yesterday about Scott Peterson talking

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<v Speaker 1>and a half minutes when he started talking because he

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<v Speaker 1>wife and child Connor. He doesn't get to like, why

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<v Speaker 1>are we giving him a platform? It rubs me the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong way. And Chris Watts was exactly And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark gerragis said when Chris, when Scott Peterson was arrested, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how you're going to respond, And this is the way

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<v Speaker 1>Scott responded. No, this is a way a sociopath who

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<v Speaker 1>murders their wife because they're in an affair, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>they behave right now, we have a pattern of behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>In this case.

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<v Speaker 2>Some newly revealed letters show that Chris Watts used to

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<v Speaker 2>say that his wife was a control freak and that

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<v Speaker 2>he only cheated on her with his mistress because the

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<v Speaker 2>mistress was everything the wife wasn't like with me. The

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<v Speaker 2>New York Post had several handwritten notes from this guy

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<v Speaker 2>serving a life sentence of course at a Dodge correctional

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<v Speaker 2>institution in Wisconsin for these murders. He said he admitted

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<v Speaker 2>to strangling Shannon in their Colorado home August to twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>drove her body to a job site at the oil

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<v Speaker 2>company where he worked, and then dumped her. Two daughters

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<v Speaker 2>were in his truck, said that they he killed them

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<v Speaker 2>and then stashed their bodies in oil drums, and he

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<v Speaker 2>said the motive was so that he could be with

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<v Speaker 2>his mistress, Nicole he pleaded guilty sentence to life in prison.

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<v Speaker 4>He does he think that this is a legitimate defense?

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<v Speaker 4>Like does he?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he that tone deaf that he thinks that like

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<v Speaker 1>this mistress tempted him and led him to kill his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's his wife's fault too because she's so controlling

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<v Speaker 1>and his mistress was letting him do all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that his wife didn't. Well, I don't mean sexually, he

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<v Speaker 2>This is a here's here's a fun twist. No, but

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<v Speaker 2>here's a fun twist. I know, not just those letters.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of this information comes from the guy in the

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<v Speaker 2>next cell, by the way, guy named Dylan Tallman, Well

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<v Speaker 2>Perkins operation fellow prisoner there. Tallman was in the cell

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<v Speaker 2>next to Chris Watts, and the two men became close.

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<v Speaker 2>They had agreed to write get this a prayer book

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<v Speaker 2>together that's rich, but Chris Watts eventually decided against it.

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<v Speaker 2>So Dylan Tolman released a series of three books called

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<v Speaker 1>Can I quote from the Bible of Chris Watts in

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<v Speaker 1>his prayer book if you'd like. In one letter in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible letter to Paul dated March twenty twenty, Sorry

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<v Speaker 1>that was inappropriate, good, he wrote. Chris Wats wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>prayer of confession, quoting, now the words of a harlot

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<v Speaker 1>have brought me low. Her flattering speech was like drops

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<v Speaker 1>of honey, bad subject verb, disagreement there that pierced my

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<v Speaker 1>heart and soul. Little did I know that all her

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<v Speaker 4>He's blaming his mistress.

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<v Speaker 1>For him strangling and killing his three and four year

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if he's capable of doing that, his brain clearly

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<v Speaker 3>Awful. It's not a huge surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>Live in Chicago, wrapping up the week here for the

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Shannon's doing the football game. Chargers actually have

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times had an interesting look at and I

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<v Speaker 3>We got seventy four days left.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventy four days and as much of a honeymoon as

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<v Speaker 2>this week will be for Kamala Harrison for Tim Walls.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Baker wrote this pretty eloquent paragraph that I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks. It says the buzzkill reality is that victory

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<v Speaker 2>is anything but assured. The thousands of jubilant delegates in

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<v Speaker 2>voters that Harris needs to defeat former President Trump. History

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is no pushover. Harris can expect a bruising battle

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<v Speaker 2>the big developments of course today is that we're expecting

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<v Speaker 2>Robert F. Kennedy to end his independent presidential campaign. We're

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<v Speaker 2>watching a live feed from a looks like a podium

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<v Speaker 2>that's been set up in Phoenix, so there's people in

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<v Speaker 2>the room, but Kennedy's not there yet. He is expected

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<v Speaker 2>to throw his support behind at former President Trump. That's

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<v Speaker 2>coming up at the top of the hour. We also

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<v Speaker 2>know that Kennedy withdrew from the ballot in Arizona late yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>so if that means something. Also, speaking of former President Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>he said that he's not going to be getting intelligence

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<v Speaker 2>briefings for fear that he would be accused of leaking

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<v Speaker 2>classified information. Now he's a leading candidate. He is the

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<v Speaker 2>Republican nominee, and usually intelligence agencies do offer briefings to

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<v Speaker 2>presidential candidates once they've actually received the nomination, in which

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<v Speaker 2>he has obviously, and he said. Former President told the

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<v Speaker 2>Daily Mail he could now get the briefings if he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted them, but he thinks it's a trap. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want them because, number one, I know what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very easy to see what's happening, and then said

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want them to think that I leaked information.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the developments also about former President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is now at least five members of the Secret Service

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<v Speaker 2>have been placed on administrative leave after the July thirteenth

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<v Speaker 2>assassination attempt against him in Butler, PA. One member of

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's personal protective team, and four members of the Secret

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<v Speaker 2>Service's Pittsburgh Field office, including the special Agent in charge,

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<v Speaker 2>have been put on leave for different reasons, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>now six weeks out. If you remember Kimberly Cheadle, the

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<v Speaker 2>former head of the Secret Service, she resigned her job

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<v Speaker 2>just after about two weeks. So Tom Girardi's been on

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<v Speaker 2>the stand. Tom Girardi, of course, longtime lawyer who was

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<v Speaker 2>accused of misappropriation of millions of dollars in settlement funds

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<v Speaker 2>that were supposed to go to his clients that were

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly fueling his and his wife's lifestyles back in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>almost four years ago. Now, his law firm basically just

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<v Speaker 2>blew up. He was accused of stealing a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>the settlement money from widows and orphans in an Indonesian

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<v Speaker 2>plane crash. Hundreds of former clients and vendors came forward

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<v Speaker 2>said that they were collectively cheated out of hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars as well. And he took the stand

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday in his own defense. Eighty five years old. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the first time he's spoken publicly about these allegations. And

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<v Speaker 2>he got up to the stand and with the trembling

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<v Speaker 2>hands of an eighty five year old man that is

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<v Speaker 2>not uncommon.

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<v Speaker 3>He would talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>The success of his law firm, and he said the

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<v Speaker 2>firm was doing so well because of the wonderful people

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<v Speaker 2>who work there and still work there, the attorneys. The

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<v Speaker 2>public defender called him trying to kind of test Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Girardi's mental acuity, and he'd ask things like is your

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<v Speaker 2>law firm still open? And ask what's my name to

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Girardi and he would say, I don't know, bad,

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<v Speaker 2>mean terrible, It's one of those. Girardi said he worked

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<v Speaker 2>more than fifty hours a week, took on a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of big cases, like the suit against PG and E

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<v Speaker 2>that was featured in Aaron Brockovich, But when asked about

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<v Speaker 2>specific cases in which he was accused of stealing that money,

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<v Speaker 2>he talked about, well, those are not the cases I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do any misconduct, or I didn't there was

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<v Speaker 2>no misconduct. But when asked about a specific person in

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<v Speaker 2>this case, a guy named Joseph Ruy Gomez won a

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<v Speaker 2>settlement of more than fifty million dollars for the burns

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<v Speaker 2>that he suffered after that huge gas explosion you remember

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<v Speaker 2>up in San Bruno, Girardi said he did work on

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<v Speaker 2>the case but did not misappropriate the funds. Now Ruy

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<v Speaker 2>Gomez was a guy who after he went all through

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<v Speaker 2>his treatment, got hooked on painkillers. But Girardi claimed that

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<v Speaker 2>Ruy Gomez and another client had drug problems and said

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<v Speaker 2>the reason that he was withholding the money was because

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<v Speaker 2>they had drug problems. That Ruy Gomez's mother told him,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't give him a bunch of money because he'll

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<v Speaker 2>end up killing himself, and she says sorry. Tom said,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that I declare under penalty of perjury. In

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<v Speaker 2>the first week of the trial, that guy was on

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<v Speaker 2>the stand, Ruy Gomez, and he said after the explosion, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he did get a lot of pain medicine and did

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<v Speaker 2>develop a drug dependency for a year, but never authorized

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<v Speaker 2>him to withhold money, and neither did mom. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is a if he comes across as you know, bumbling, mumbling, spitting,

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<v Speaker 2>slobbering on himself, it's good for the defense. But if

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<v Speaker 2>he comes across smart capable, prosecution is going to win

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<v Speaker 2>on that one. So all right, and we're standing by

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<v Speaker 2>for this news conference out of Arizona where Robert F.

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy Junior is expected to drop out of the race.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that when we continue. Gary and Shannon

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<v Speaker 2>will continue right after this you've been listening to The

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<v Speaker 2>Gary and Shannon Show. You can always hear us live

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