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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Master of the NEC podcast, the ultimate

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destination for anyone passionate about the electrical trade. Whether you're

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a season electrician, an eager apprentice, or just someone who

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wants to dive deep into the world of electrical work,

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you've come to the right place.

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Speaker 2: Join your host, Paul.

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Speaker 1: Abernavi, a true authority in the industry with over thirty

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eight years of trade experience, as he electrifies your mind

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with in depth discussions, expertips, and valuable insights.

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Speaker 2: That will keep you ahead of the curve.

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Speaker 1: Each episode, Paul will illuminate the complexities of the trade

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de code, the National Electrical Code, and share the latest

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industry trends, all while empowering you to take your electrical

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career to the next level. So gear up, plug in,

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Master of the NEEC podcast, the power is in your hands.

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Speaker 2: Now get ready.

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Speaker 1: Here is your host, Paul Abernavi.

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Speaker 3: What up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of Mastering VN YOUC.

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My name is Paul labernanthy your host. As always, thanks

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for joining me on this podcast. Today's episode, we're gonna

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be looking at the structure of the twenty twenty six

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edition of the National Electrical Code. For many of you,

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this won't be out for a while. It is available

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in link right now. The publishing of it probably will

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come over the next couple months and you'll start getting

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your copies.

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Speaker 2: You get your first edition, may.

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Speaker 3: Have some errors, they'll make changes, but again the body

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of it is ready right now on link if you

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want to get it on your phone and start taking

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a sneak peek at.

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Speaker 2: What it's going to look like.

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Speaker 3: Now, for many of you out there, this said, you

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know what I'm going to be on the twenty twenty

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six edition for quite a while. Why do I need

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to look at it? And I think the real reason

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that we start to look at code changes or things

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in the code is because we want to see where

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things are going, because it also helps to clarify where

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we've been. In other words, if there's an argument over

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a certain condition, a certain application, there's a high probability

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that in many cases those very controversial topics that we've

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talked about through the years gets clarified as the additions

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go on and in code panels address certain issues. And

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of course we all know that the twenty twenty six

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edition is kind of the start of a new direction

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or new restructuring, if you will, have the National Electrical Code,

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where we're all gearing up for what we've heard that's

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going to happen in the twenty twenty nine edition, but

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right here in the twenty twenty six we start seeing

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some things move to other articles and jump around into

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different chapters, and things just change a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So we want to.

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Speaker 3: Talk a little bit about about that today and kind

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of give you a little a little warm up to it.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, we're going to be doing quite.

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Speaker 3: A few videos and stuff on these changes and looking

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at certain aspects that have changed, so that you know,

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you can just kind of be aware of it so

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it doesn't take you by surprise when when states do

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adopt the twenty twenty six, you already head of the curve.

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Speaker 2: And in most cases still going.

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Speaker 3: To be applicable to twenty twenty three and in some

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cases even twenty twenty that we talk about it, but

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I just think it's important that we stay up to date.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: So all right, don't let's start out by talking code arrangement,

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because this seems to be one of the things that

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can get quite confusing for folks. Is I mean, we're

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leading up to a major change that's coming in twenty

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twenty nine, and so there are some certain adjustments that

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have to be made in the twenty twenty six to

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prepare us for that, to prepare all the users for that.

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be a new kind of formatting. Things are going to

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be moved around a little bit. So we're just trying

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to set the tone for that. But that's what's coming now.

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As always, you've got ninety dot three. It basically explains

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the organization of the NEC. So you go look at

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ninety dot three and it makes it very clear that

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chapters one through four apply broadly throughout the NEC.

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two fifty, you're in three ten for conductors, you're you're

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hazardous locations. Five oh one, five oh two, five oh three.

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how that hierarchy goes, then you're going to be in

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in the code? So many of you are familiar with

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the code. I'm talking twenty twenty six right now, but

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twenty twenty, twenty seventeen, twenty twenty three. You have nine

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the twenty twenty six edition, that's where you're going to

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see calculations one twenty because they apply broadly throughout the NEEC.

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changes as we work through this co change series here.

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intermediate metal, non metallic, rigid PVC, non metallic sheet cable,

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trade cable. All those type of things are going to

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be covered in chapter three with their own specific articles

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within that chapter. And then you're going to get to

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chapter four, which is Equipment for general use, right, so

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things like that four hundred okay chords, right. And then

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occupancy driven and or special type of locations. And then

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entering the building. And of course Chapter nine is our tables,

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will look at all the time. Chapter nine, Table eight

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good information, and a good inspector knows that an informative

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code and might mirror code. It might give an example

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like informed of ANXD, which gives some example calculations. They're

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gonna walk hand in hand with it. But you don't

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have anybody enforcing anything based on these informative anexes. They're

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just there for great information and I like that. I

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like informative anxes giving us additional guidance. Right, So you know,

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for example, recommend tightening and torquing values that come out

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of UL for eighty six A forty six B.

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chapter one through four is general requirements, and then it

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Speaker 2: So eight has been pulled into the fold.

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the code is broken down into various articles. Y'all are

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a lot of parts. Speaking of shameless plug, we got

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Vince Delacrosse coming in the studio in a couple of weeks.

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We're gonna be doing the pool, spas and hot tubs.

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twenty twenty six codes. So I'm excited about that because

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we're gonna dig into a lot of changes. Uh that

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took place, and we'll probably have some podcasts with Vince

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and all the stuff that he does for the industry,

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because he does amazing stuff for the industry. So we're

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go'll be talking about that as well, So make sure

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things like you got informational notes. Again, informational notes which

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years and years and years ago. Now we're moving on

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then of course you'll have exceptions, and exceptions be exceptions

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to the general rule. So you've got various basic rule

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and then of course you'll have exceptions, which typically are

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in italics in the code so that you can see

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what the exception may be. But that's, you know, pretty

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much the norm that's been the way it's been. And

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then we have footnotes that are going to be in

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the code. Okay, so keep that in mind. Now, general requirements,

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we're going to be looking and you know, some of

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the changes that we're going to be having or what

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NEC is there is going to be quite a few

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changes that took place in Chapter one that are significant.

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to twenty. Energy management systems that's moved to one thirty,

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so some significant changes. But again that's general. Because those

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calculations are general, they apply broadly, so it makes sense

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that it should be in the General rather than in

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Chapter two.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense. It aligns a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: And you know, so remembering that one ten is general

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requirements for electrical installations that you know throughout the NEC,

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it's general applications to the various articles, unless of course

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they're modified in some form or fashion by some other article. Okay,

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only one twenty is going to provide the now from

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two twenty to one to twenty. It's going to provide

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the general basis for our calculations, and that's going to

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be for calculating brand, circuit, feeder and service loads.

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makes more sense.

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Speaker 3: Energy management system is going to be a one thirty

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that type of thing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just some changes for that.

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Speaker 3: And Article three hundred is going to be an introductory

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article for now for chapter three, and it's going to

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provide general requirements for wiring methods and materials.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but again it can be modified.

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are within chapter three specific to certain types of wiring

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methods that are going to say, look for this type

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of wiring method you can do a little something different

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than the general rule. So it's important to make sure

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that we understand how the structure is going to flow

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and when something can modify, when something can supplement something

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Speaker 2: Okay. Just want to make sure we're all on board.

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significant changes that are taking place in the twenty twenty

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six edition of the National Letrical Code, not just the

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fact that it's preparing us for a new direction, right,

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little new direction of how it's going to go.

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Speaker 2: Now, one of the questions that they come up.

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Speaker 3: Quite often and becomes really a big debate is terminology.

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we made that shift in the twenty twenty three where

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all of the definitions got moved for the most part

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over into Article one hundred. Gives us one clean place

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to go look for the various definitions and definitions are

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extremely important, especially if maneuvering through the NEEC. But one

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of the things that people ask from time to time

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is what if a specific definition or specific term is

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not covered in the National Electrical Code, where do I

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go to get a definition for that? Maybe a generic, typical,

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general used definition. Right, Well, we know that Article one

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hundred contains those, you know, the definitions that are basically

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extremely important for the applications and use of the NEC.

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not designed to give us very generic terms. These are

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very technical terms and definitions, right, And so we have

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to understand that there's going to be a place where

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we have to be able to get some of the

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very generic terminology in order to be able to use

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that document.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes, so.

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Speaker 3: While it's not really stated in article one hundred, you

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use the Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary is referenced, okay, And

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of course the building codes and things like that. None

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of this is stated in the NEC. But that is

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the general and that is the method that is promoted

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by an FPA. And the concept is to use for

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definitions that are not specifically Germane to the NEC, they

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would be using the Merriam Webster's latest edition, the Collegiate Dictionary,

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and that's what would be used. So if you're looking

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at a term, you're like, this is some obscure term.

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by the NEC. Where would you go? That's where you'd go. Okay,

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to get into this and start getting your your your

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electronic versions of the NEC or to start looking at it,

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and I encourage it. Start looking at the changes, getting

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familiar with them, seeing you know, maybe things that you've

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argued in the past, and you're saying, dude, I want

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to go see if something's changed, if something in what

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I've been arguing for years has finally changed, and does

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the new NEC address that? Well, if you're if you're

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flipping through the NEC, you'll see some inns kang the

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letter N in the left margin, and if it's just

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an inn, you know that it's new. Okay, in the

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left margin, if you see an end that is shaded,

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then it's treated as new rule, but it's been relocated.

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In other words, it it it's new to this area.

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Speaker 2: Makes sense.

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Speaker 3: So when you're looking at the code, I mean, I

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guess the key thing for me is focus in on

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the end for new and read it fresh, right, kind

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of read it fresh and and kind of gotta get

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it kind of a feel that it's that it's fresh

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and it's kind of a fresh look that that type

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of approach, that's that's kind of how I would address

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you seeing the D in the left margins. Now up front,

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let's go on and just I mean, let's knock out

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the new articles that have been added to the twenty

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twenty six Okay, so you're clear on what's new. We

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have a new two hundred and six, which is remote

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control and signaling circuits. You know, originally it was three

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hundred twenty six. Now it's two zero six. Okay, that's

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a move. We have brand circuits over one thousand volts

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and that is to sixty five.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Now that's going to confuse a lot of people because

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that used to be Part three for feeders okay, for

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feeders that are over one thousand volts.

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Speaker 2: Okay, excuse me.

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Speaker 3: Brand circuits that are over one thousand volts that used

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to be in two thirty five, which was part two

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is now to sixty five. And of course feeders that

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are over one thousand volts is now to sixty six. Okay,

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So that can be confusing for folks because that used

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to be into two thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Now two thirty five has been deleted now obviously because

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it's been broken into their own articles.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that'd be a shift for people to see that.

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Speaker 3: But again, this is this is kind of aligning with

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the new structure, which again you can go look at

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in your twenty twenty six if you have the electronic version,

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you can go to informed of Annex L.

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Speaker 2: I believe I.

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Speaker 3: Said, and look and see what it's going to look like.

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But I'm sure they'll still be evolving, because that's another

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that's a cycle away.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Now we just now in the twenty twenty six are

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ready to release it. So again there's going to be

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work that gets done to that.

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Speaker 2: So uh.

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Speaker 3: And then of course you have again that was two

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sixty six for feeders over one thousand volts. Then you

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have two sixty seven, which is outside branch and feeders

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over one thousand. Again, this used to be part four

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of two thirty five, which again uh is that and

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also deletes three ninety five. Heay for those that remember

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three ninety five that was overhead out outdoor overhead conductors

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over this, So now it kind of aligns.

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Speaker 2: Itself a little bit in how that's going to be done.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Next we'd be looking at is UH services

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over one thousand volts?

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Speaker 2: That was part five of article two thirty five.

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Speaker 3: Well, obviously two thirty five is gone now, so just

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keeping in that pathat it is now to sixty eight, right,

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And with that, and I'm in code panel five and

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we were all for expanding out grounding and bonding specifics.

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Speaker 2: A lot of it was a cut and paste.

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Speaker 3: From regular two fifty, but there are some nuances to

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over one thousand volts that we wanted to capture, and

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so it used to be in Part ten of Article

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two fifty. But now grounding and bonding for over one

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thousand volts, okay, not your every day application. You're for

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eighty two seventy seven to forty one twenty your normal

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day and day out building wire stuff typically. Okay, that's

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two fifty, but we do have a two seventy now

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that's going to be for grounding and bonding over.

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Speaker 2: One thousand volts. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Next is two sixty four electric self propelled vehicles to

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kind of separate it away from six twenty five, which

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is more about the ev charging aspect of it, the

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equipment and more addressing the self propelled electric self propelled

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vehicles in six twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So a kind of.

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Speaker 3: A splitting up of six twenty five, if you will,

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and trying to create a six twenty four that's more

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dedicated to the vehicle aspect of it versus the charger

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or charging aspect of it. Kind of what took place

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with that, we have a seven to twenty. It's getting

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added and that is general requirements for limited energy systems,

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wiring methods and materials. Right, so seven twenty again limited

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energy systems. We have seven twenty one, which is power

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sources for limited energy systems. We have seven twenty two

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limited energy cable requirements.

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Speaker 2: Right. So again all about limited energy is the.

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Speaker 3: The class two s, class threes, all these type of

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things you know we have. Also if you remember last cycle,

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we had the introduction of the class four fault managed systems.

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If you've never watched any of those videos over on

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YouTube for volt server and you want to learn what's

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the technology that's that's down the road that's coming, it's interesting.

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Go take a moment obviously after my podcast, don't do

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it now, don't leave now, and go look at those videos.

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It's very interesting technology. So that's your homework. Your homework

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is to go look at some of those volt server

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videos over on YouTube. Interesting technology.

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Speaker 2: I will say, we.

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Speaker 3: Have a seven to twenty three that's being introduced. That's raceway,

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cable routing assemblies and cable trays four limited energy systems.

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So not only you're going to deal with the sources

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of this limited energy, the cable requirements of this listed energy,

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the general requirements for limited energy, but now you're gonna

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have requirements that are specific to raceway, cable routing, assemblies,

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cable trays, YadA, YadA, YadA for limited energy systems. Seven

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two over voltage protection for limited energy, and of course

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seven point fifty which used to be energy management, that

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got moved to one thirty to make way for seven

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fifty for grounding and bonding for limited energy. So you

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see the pattern here, limited energy expansion, those type of things. Now,

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with that said, some things had to be relocated. And

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again a couple of things that we relocate was obviously

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seven seventy, which was optical fiber cables. Well, that's a

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no brainer because that gets relocated over into seven twenty

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two because that is a limited energy cable and that's

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there's limited energy cable requirements, so it makes sense. So

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seven seventy gets absorbed into the new seven twenty two

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and it's going to be part seven by the way.

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Speaker 2: In that right.

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Speaker 3: That also makes the way for the communication circuits in

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eight oh five to get you know, relocated to seven

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twenty two, seven forty two and seven fifty, right, because

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you're grounding and bonding requirements your over voltage protection for

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this limited energy and of course obviously we're talking communication circuits,

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so we're also going to be talking about limited energy

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cable requirements. And of course, as always you got seven

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to twenty which is basically the again the general requirements

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for these limited energy systems. Okay, so you see how

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it's kind of kind of rolling, if you will. And

477
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:58,400
of course eight forty, which is premise powered broadband communication systems,

478
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,480
also gets deleted in this addition to the NEEC and

479
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:07,279
gets absorbed into the other specific articles that type of thing,

480
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,079
so makes sense. So it's kind of the alignment. So

481
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,519
that's the new stuff that's coming, uh in the new articles,

482
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,400
and I fully get it. You may pause this podcast,

483
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,680
you may rewind it back and listen to some of

484
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,759
these again and see what's what's coming. But that's what

485
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:26,279
you got. That's that's your new articles and what's being deleted.

486
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: Okay, Now some of the things I want to tell

487
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:33,519
you about.

488
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,319
Speaker 3: The listing requirements. So for twenty twenty six, there's there's

489
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:43,960
been a significant change in the structure of DOT two,

490
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:47,279
which is your listing requirements and more germane really to

491
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,680
various wiring methods that do have a listing requirement wiring

492
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,640
methods typically or you know all of them, you know, rigid, intermediate,

493
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,680
AC mc key, but all those are listed products and

494
00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:03,079
under dot to before when it was required than be listed.

495
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,680
Now they're going to be listed and identified. But then

496
00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:10,480
it kind of goes one step forward. And I'll use

497
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:13,160
ac cable as an example. So three twenty dot two

498
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,799
for example, it's just convenient to use it. It says

499
00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:19,839
the following shall be listed and identified. So you've got

500
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,960
ac cable. That's not a big change, okay, because it

501
00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:26,720
was already required to be listed and identified and it's

502
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:30,960
ac cable. Next is probably where we're going to see

503
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:37,039
the biggest changes. Cable ties, staples, straps, and hangars have

504
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,599
to be listed and identified, obviously listed and identified for

505
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:46,440
use with ac cable, not just any strap that you

506
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,480
can find anymore.

507
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the.

508
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,279
Speaker 3: Thing to remember moving forward in twenty twenty six, as

509
00:29:54,319 --> 00:29:59,079
that staples now cable ties were required to be listed prior.

510
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,880
In many of these uh cable sections or these cable articles,

511
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,079
they were required to be listed and for their specific

512
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,960
use okay, securing and supporting. But now you're seeing the

513
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,480
straps the hangars, the staples.

514
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

515
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: And when it says listed and identified means that it

516
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:18,799
is listed and identified for use with obviously the wiring

517
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:22,559
method in question, which is a C cable. So this

518
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,839
makes it very clear that you don't use an E

519
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,119
M T strap to secure a C cable just because

520
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:29,240
it works.

521
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: Okay.

522
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 3: Also a C cable fittings used for connecting boxes, cables

523
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,240
to boxes, cabinets or other equipment all have to be

524
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:42,599
listed and identified.

525
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: Okay.

526
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: So that is where we're going to see Dot two

527
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:51,480
going as being it's it's more specific now in the

528
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,839
way that it's that it wants to address it. So

529
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,319
keeping you know, keeping that in mind. And again, by

530
00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:00,359
the way, this this is throughout. That wasn't just three

531
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,279
twenty Uh, it's the same thing when you go to

532
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:05,160
three thirty dot two, three thirty four.

533
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: It's the same concept. And you know, the argument was,

534
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:11,599
you know, do you list.

535
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: A staple, Well, there is a standard for that, and

536
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,720
so because there is a standard for that, it just

537
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:26,920
was maybe not followed that much. But now the manufacturers

538
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,200
will and they will and you will see supports and

539
00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:34,759
straps and hangars and cable ties and all this other

540
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:38,799
type stuff getting evaluated through a third party now so

541
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:41,880
that you can use it with the product.

542
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:42,839
Speaker 2: Okay.

543
00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: So that's where you're going to see some of the

544
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,279
some of the changes that take take place in that.

545
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

546
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,319
Speaker 3: Now in many cases, you're gonna also now run into

547
00:31:54,400 --> 00:32:00,720
a dot three, which is the reconditioned equipment. Okay, And

548
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:06,039
I'm using example here. Three twelve dot three is reconditioned equipment.

549
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:10,519
Of course, we know three twelve is dealing with cabinets,

550
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,880
cut out boxes, meter socket enclosures.

551
00:32:14,279 --> 00:32:16,759
Speaker 2: So I just using that as a an example.

552
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: And when you go look at that, you'll see an

553
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:21,799
N in the margin in the left margin.

554
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,519
Speaker 2: So it's reconditioned equipment.

555
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,759
Speaker 3: So if you look at it, you're going to see

556
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,480
that what can be reconditioned in what can't be, for example,

557
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,240
boxes cabinets, cutout boxes. You'll see that there's a three

558
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,240
twelve dot three A in A B. And you'll notice

559
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:43,680
that A says permitted to be installed and B says

560
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:45,039
not permitted to be installed.

561
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: Okay.

562
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:49,759
Speaker 3: Now A is very vague because it says reserved online

563
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:54,000
when I'm looking at the twenty twenty six edition in link. Okay,

564
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:57,279
But more telling is you look at what the not

565
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,599
permitted to be installed. It says, the installation of the

566
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:05,759
following reconditioned equipment shall not be permitted cabinets, cabinet cutout boxes,

567
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:14,119
cabinet meter socket enclosures. So you cannot use reconditioned cabinets

568
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,119
cut out boxes.

569
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:15,759
Speaker 2: Uh.

570
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:17,519
Speaker 3: And then this is big because there's a lot of

571
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:21,599
people out there that use the reconditioned equipment or they

572
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,839
have some cabinets sitting around or whatnot like that, and

573
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,160
it makes it very clear that you're not going to

574
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,559
be reconditioning them, you're not going to be re using them.

575
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So the more and more.

576
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:38,799
Speaker 3: That the that this comes in a line, it's going

577
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,839
to tell you certain things that you just that you

578
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,240
just can't recondition. Now, we already were there what was

579
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:47,279
what was could be reconditioned, it wasn't. But this is

580
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:52,720
just going on a little bit more of a new provisions,

581
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:56,240
but to specifically address certain things. Okay, So I'm not

582
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,640
I'm not totally opposed to this this concept. It's just

583
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:03,559
it's being very specific what is permitted and what is

584
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,400
not permitted to be reconditioned. And again, it makes sense

585
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,480
for us if we're going to go down that avenue

586
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,159
of what you can and can't reuse, which, by the way,

587
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,320
a lot of this started.

588
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 2: A lot of this thoughts.

589
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: About reconditioned equipment and what can be used was after Katrina,

590
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,679
when we had all of that New Orleans all that flooding,

591
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,519
and then equipment started migrating its way as being replaced,

592
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:28,360
and then people would say, well, let's just dry it

593
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,679
out and reuse it, and it found its way up

594
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,719
north into Texas and other places, and that became a

595
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,719
problem because the equipment would fail and there was no

596
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,280
checks and balances on it and things like that. So

597
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,280
it was really important to ask the manufacturers to step

598
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,320
up and say, okay, of your products, I mean, these

599
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,599
are your products.

600
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: You know them better than anybody.

601
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,199
Speaker 3: What really can be reconditioned and what really can't be

602
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,440
Like a GFCI AFCI for example, device that is not

603
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:03,079
something that is reconditionable. So you're like, eh, it's not

604
00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:05,199
not not something you're just you're just not going to

605
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,199
recondition You're just going to replace it. And so that one,

606
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,559
even though that one's a bad example, because that should

607
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:14,400
be common sense because of electronics and whatnot. We still

608
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,199
needed a little more guidance on that. So I'm all

609
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,599
for this structure change because as an electrician, I just

610
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,679
tell me what I can reuse and when I can't,

611
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,559
that that's all I want to know that.

612
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: That's it.

613
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: So get the manufacturers involved so I can look at

614
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:32,239
something and say, oh, well, crap, good, I can't reuse it.

615
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 2: Fine, I mean, just a new one that makes sense

616
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:36,039
to me.

617
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:42,159
Speaker 3: Okay, But I think the biggest one, I think that

618
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,239
the biggest of what we're going to run into is

619
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,920
in three fourteen dot three. When you're looking at they

620
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:55,119
not permitted to be installed. You know, three fourteen dot

621
00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:00,159
three A says permitted to be installed and says reserved. Okay,

622
00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:02,800
but if you look at the not permitted to be

623
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,960
installed basically, and this is going to be a shocker

624
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:11,519
for many of you out there, the manufacturers have stated,

625
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:13,599
whether you like it or not, whether you agree with it,

626
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:15,360
whether you say it's just because they want you to

627
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,719
buy a new equipment, you know what, let's just ignore that,

628
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:25,480
and it says that not permitted to reuse or recondition

629
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:31,320
outlet boxes, device boxes, pull boxes, junction boxes, conduit bodies,

630
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:38,519
fittings and handhold enclosures. None of that can be reconditioned.

631
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:45,440
So really it's going to say that anything that puts

632
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,880
one of those boxes, even in their associated fittings, under exposure,

633
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,400
whether it's flooding, whether it's whatever it is, whatever condition

634
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,679
of use may may cause something to have to be

635
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:04,840
reconditioned or cleaned up or whatever, then you can't reuse it.

636
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,519
Speaker 2: This was huge.

637
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: I mean this would be huge in Texas because I

638
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,840
don't tell you how many times I'd go into city

639
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,360
and you'd have inspections and you go out in the

640
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,599
county and people are using old crap that wouldn't pass

641
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:15,239
in the city.

642
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,039
Speaker 2: Well, now it's cross board. You're not going to use

643
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:18,599
any of these things.

644
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,199
Speaker 3: You don't have, you don't you know, no need to

645
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,760
save your outlet boxes, no need to save your device,

646
00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:25,559
although at the end of the day, I don't know

647
00:37:25,639 --> 00:37:27,719
who would ever know, you know what I'm saying, if

648
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,519
you're just using old nail ups or whatnot.

649
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.

650
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 3: But it's very very generic, and how it states it,

651
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,960
it makes it very clear. Reconditioned equipment installed in the

652
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,320
following the installation of the following reconditioned equipment shall not

653
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,880
be permitted outlet boxes, device boxes, pull boxes, junction boxes,

654
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,760
conduit bodies, fittings.

655
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,599
Speaker 2: And handhold covers. All of that.

656
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:59,039
Speaker 3: Now, obviously, the savvy code person is going to say, well, Paul,

657
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:01,519
we I guess when you read that, you got to

658
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:05,519
go look at the definition of reconditioned equipment and okay,

659
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:08,000
so we'll go look at that, and it says what

660
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:14,800
is reconditioned equipment. It's electro mechanical systems, COMMA equipment, apparatus,

661
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:20,000
or components that are restored to operating condition. This process

662
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:23,400
differs from normal servicing of equipment that remained within a

663
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,880
facility or replaced on a list of listing replacement of

664
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,760
listed equipment on a one to one basis.

665
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: So for me, it's.

666
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:40,119
Speaker 3: About trying to take equipment, clean it up, put it

667
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:41,079
back in service.

668
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,119
Speaker 2: That to me is a reconditioning issue.

669
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:48,519
Speaker 3: Right, It's not for me a box that's a listed box,

670
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:50,880
and again not all boxes are required to be listed.

671
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: Okay, keep that in mind.

672
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,679
Speaker 3: But you have a piece of equipment and in some

673
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,280
way try to re condition it due to some exposure

674
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,639
or something that's been exposed to that's not that's a

675
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:09,480
no no, okay, But I would argue, and again I'm

676
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:13,480
always controversial, a nail up box is a nail up

677
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:17,119
box and there's really nothing to recondition about it.

678
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: If you got one and you reuse it, I don't

679
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,199
have a problem with it.

680
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,519
Speaker 3: But my problem with this is you're going to have

681
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:29,360
possibly maybe potential of hj's trying to bring this up,

682
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,559
especially if they see a junction box, for example, that

683
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:35,519
has plugs in it where it was used somewhere else

684
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,320
and it's now it's being used in another location. That

685
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:45,320
could be an issue for that jurisdiction, for that inspector.

686
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:50,760
He could raise that issue and say, well, that's reconditioned. Well, no,

687
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,320
maybe repurposed doesn't necessarily mean it's reconditioned. So I think

688
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,840
we're going to have to have some you know, there's

689
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,559
some flexibility.

690
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:02,119
Speaker 2: Now. Obviously the intent here was.

691
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: For critical devices like I mean, GFCIs, AFCIS fuses things

692
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,800
like that. Obviously we don't want to recondition those, rebuild

693
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,360
them from one state to another state, and re implement

694
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,480
them when they're clearly it says in the code that

695
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:24,599
they cannot be reconditioned.

696
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: So I don't want to blur the line there.

697
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 3: But when you have three fourteen dot three stating things

698
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,760
like you can't recondition junction boxes, we have to understand, well, okay,

699
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,440
what is the line. If I'm using it in one

700
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:38,119
job and I take it out and I put it

701
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:40,239
in my truck and I reuse it on another job,

702
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,639
that's not necessarily reconditioning it. It's repurposing it. So again,

703
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,039
I just on reason I throw this out there is

704
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:52,079
because I don't want it to become the language become

705
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:57,519
a problematic issue for enforcement and contractors. Okay, that type

706
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:00,519
of thing. You get what I'm saying. It'd be very different.

707
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,480
For example, if the box is being used in a

708
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:07,039
location where it's submerged in a flood or something like that,

709
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:11,039
then you're cleaning it and all that in order to

710
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:16,400
reuse it. That's reconditioning and that you're not supposed to do. Okay,

711
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:21,320
that you can't do. So I don't want to. I

712
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,119
don't want to get people confused. If I've just taken

713
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:25,199
some nail up boxes in the house and I'm storing

714
00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:26,840
them in my truck because I did a remodel, and

715
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,320
I want to reuse a nail up box and the

716
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,840
box is perfectly fine. I'm not really reconditioning and I'm

717
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,519
repurposing it. It didn't lose any listing, or if it

718
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:38,079
was listed at all, you get what I'm saying. So

719
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,039
I don't want there to be a confusion with that one.

720
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:42,880
And hell, I might not have done very good job.

721
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:49,280
I might have confused you anyway. So that wasn't my goal.

722
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,880
That wasn't what I was supposed to do. But hell,

723
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,679
I'm not perfect. So all right, Now, there are some

724
00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,880
terms that are throughout the NEC that have been debated

725
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,440
and confusing and for clarity and things like that through

726
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,119
the years that we're going to try to to clarify.

727
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,119
And one of those was brand circuit over current protected devices.

728
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,599
That's confusing because it's used on feeders, it's used on

729
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:22,519
brand circuits, right, it's used on service conductors, it's used

730
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:25,679
on other equipment. And so the term to use brand

731
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:29,400
circuit overcurrent protected devices the way the code uses it

732
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,519
was very confusing.

733
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: So how about this, how about we just say, look, why.

734
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 3: Don't we just call them over current protected devices OCPD

735
00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:44,719
the acronym and just remove the reference to brand circuits, feeders,

736
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,840
service conductors, equipment, just remove all that.

737
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:51,519
Speaker 2: Why not just do all that?

738
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 3: And so that's what took place in the twenty twenty

739
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:03,199
sixth edition of the NEEC and broadly y and so

740
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,400
we also had to figure there needs to be a

741
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,239
way to make this very clear for the end user.

742
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,880
And this is what I like about the way that

743
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,920
the code is trying to go. And again I was

744
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,320
strongly against at the beginning the twenty twenty nine change

745
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,760
perspective of how it was going to go, propose whatever,

746
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:24,280
and then I got more in looking at it and

747
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,440
then saw what we're going to do in twenty twenty six.

748
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,920
But looking like we're setting the stage and it seems

749
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,119
to me, in my opinion, that we're making an effort

750
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:36,480
to make the ANYC.

751
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:44,519
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe just maybe a little more easier to understand,

752
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,880
you know what I'm saying, just a little more easier

753
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,320
to understand.

754
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 3: The reason I say this is because now when you

755
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,559
take the brand circuit overcurrent protective device and you say, okay,

756
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:55,000
we're going to break that down now so that we

757
00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:59,039
can be clear that these things, these overcurrent devices apply

758
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:02,559
to branch, eat or service. They don't need to be

759
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:07,119
called brand circuit of it. That's confusing. But when I

760
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:10,719
do that, I need to tell you, Okay, well, what

761
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:14,880
are overcurrent protected devices? Now we got two forty dot six,

762
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,159
which gives you these standard ratings of these overcurrent protected devices,

763
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:21,599
but we needed to add something else that said, okay,

764
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:25,239
what are the overcurrent protected devices? So two forty dot

765
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,400
seven was born, and that is new and it basically

766
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,159
says unless permitted elsewhere in the code, and that usually

767
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,159
is language for unless it changes it somewhere else in

768
00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:37,719
the code. This is a general rule. This is what

769
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,880
you're going to follow. It says overcurrent protected devices are

770
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,400
oucpds for protecting brand circuit feeders and service conductors and

771
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,320
equipment shall be one of the following And now it

772
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,079
gives you a list. A list item makes more sense.

773
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,800
You want to know what an overcurrent protected device is? Okay,

774
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,760
it's number one. It's a molded case circuit breaker, standard

775
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,639
break you see in your panel every day of the week.

776
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:05,679
You have low voltage power circuit breakers typically have a

777
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,400
little bit higher opacities on them, but again they're just

778
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,840
they're just low voltage. Okay, eight thousand volts less type

779
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,840
of applications, low voltage power circuit breakers. They're considered overcurrent

780
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,599
protected devices. Great, great solid state and solid state hybrid

781
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:27,360
circuit breakers. Okay, they're overcurrent protected devices. Okay, fuses class

782
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,000
C C A C B C C C FG n J.

783
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,960
Excuse me, h K L R T. I think I

784
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,480
said end. There's no end there, but anyway you give me,

785
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:39,639
it's class H class J.

786
00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:43,639
Speaker 2: They're all overcurrent protected devices.

787
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: And we knew they were, but it's now with a

788
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,800
little less confusion because they're just they're just overcurrented. Get

789
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,639
away the the argument. When we had to tell somebody

790
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:56,880
that the breaker that was protecting a feeder was a

791
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,280
branch circuit overcur protected device, then everybody would go, well, shit,

792
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,400
I thought that was a feeder, you know, and it's

793
00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:07,440
maybe it may not be. If it's just going to

794
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,639
something like a range, then it's still just a brand circuit.

795
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,039
But everybody sees that two pole breaker and thinks, oh,

796
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:16,719
that's a feeder. No, it's still a brand circuit. However,

797
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,320
you still have a breaker that could feed a remote

798
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,880
distribution panel and it still would have been called a

799
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,800
branch circuit overcurrent protected device. But no, it's a feeder

800
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,840
and it's protecting the conductors downstream to another panel. So

801
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,880
it's an overcurrent protected device. It's not necessarily a branch

802
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,360
circuit overcurbit. That's the way it was called. It avoids

803
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,280
a lot of confusion, really does. It's a great change,

804
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,960
by the way. I think it just I'm all for clarity,

805
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,960
and I think it's a better clarity change. Also to

806
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:48,880
round it out, you know, you have Edison base to

807
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,480
screw in, Edison base Type C and Type S fuses

808
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,480
older style Edison based fuse screw ins, and then of

809
00:46:57,559 --> 00:47:00,920
course it says other fuses of circuit breakers as suitable

810
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,320
for the application. That's a generic one that's going to

811
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,760
catch a lot of things. But again they're going to

812
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,199
be very clear moving forward. If they're a circuit breaker

813
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:12,039
and there for specific application, they're going to be still

814
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:15,400
that's their function. Then they're going to be an overcurrent

815
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,679
protected device if they're being used in that application. Okay,

816
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,519
so that's a number six is more of a catch

817
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:27,920
all if you will. Okay, so I like it. I'm

818
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:34,199
you know, it's one of those things that again makes

819
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:36,679
it very clear. Now, something you will notice that's missing

820
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:43,800
from this list is something called supplemental overcurrent protected devices,

821
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,880
which again is not going to be an overcurrent protected device.

822
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: That's important because we talk.

823
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 3: About bathrooms and you have supplemental overcurrent protection which aren't

824
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,960
under the same rules as you would have for the

825
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,320
overcurrent protected device requirements.

826
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,119
Speaker 2: And so it makes it so much clearer now.

827
00:48:01,159 --> 00:48:03,679
Speaker 3: In my mind anyway, maybe not on everybody else's mind,

828
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,840
but in my mind makes a little cleaner. It's a

829
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,920
good separation because supplemental overcurrent protection devices have their own definition,

830
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:15,320
they have their own rules in Artic one, they are defined.

831
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,199
Whereas now overcurrent protected device is very clear what is

832
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:24,679
and what is not considered an overcurrent protected device. I

833
00:48:24,679 --> 00:48:27,440
think it makes it clear to me a little more clearer,

834
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:32,079
if you will. Moving forward now, as you heard me

835
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:36,360
at the very beginning of this podcast, you saw where

836
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,000
I talked a lot about the expansion of limited energy

837
00:48:41,079 --> 00:48:45,719
in the introduction of new articles and some realignments, talking

838
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,199
about things like seven twenty seven, twenty one, seven twenty two,

839
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,360
which was there, it's just been revised, but you have

840
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,159
seven twenty three that is new, seven twenty four which

841
00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:58,760
is there in the twenty twenty three edition. Again that's

842
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,840
class one power that's more more like our normal power.

843
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:06,679
But then you get into class two in class three,

844
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,639
which has been revised and it's seven twenty five. And

845
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:12,800
then of course we had introduced in the twenty twenty

846
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,960
three we had a more clearer definition of what's called

847
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:20,400
class four fault managed power systems, which got introduced in

848
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,519
the article seven twenty six, I believe. But now you're

849
00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:28,639
seeing new articles seven forty two, which is again the

850
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,760
over voltage kind of like we have overcurrent. Now we

851
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:36,039
have over voltage for this for these limited energy systems.

852
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:38,280
And then of course the seven fifty we talked to

853
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,400
grounding and bonding, and of course you still have seven sixty,

854
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,239
which again is still limited energy for the most part,

855
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,079
but it is revised. It has been revised and clarified.

856
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:53,239
Eight hundred as well has been revised. Eighth five and

857
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,239
eight to forty have all been deleted, right, and then

858
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,239
eight ten, eight twenty, eight thirty all those for premise

859
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:05,800
powered communication systems, network powered broadband, community antenna, television, and

860
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,039
radio distribution, all of those have been fairly revised in

861
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:12,840
order to kind of harmonize in this thing with limited

862
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:19,119
energy articles. And you know I did hear recently that

863
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,920
a lot of the data center folks are starting to

864
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,679
meet now and trying to find a way to lower

865
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:31,679
their power usage by using DC, which again Thomas Edison

866
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,400
would be like, yep, see, I told you, you know,

867
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:37,679
and Tesla'll be like, nah, get over it. But the

868
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,559
end of the day, assurgence of a lot of systems

869
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:45,280
that can integrate that are using less energy lower energy.

870
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,039
And you've heard me talk about volt server. They're not

871
00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:52,800
the only ones. They were the creators of this pulse system.

872
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:59,639
It's an amazing technology. It's pulse DC. Write about maximum

873
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,719
form hundred and fifty vaults and it's hurtzes between five

874
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,320
hundred to seven hundred hurts, and it fluctuates, it pulses.

875
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,079
It can have an AC or DC supply transmitter and

876
00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:15,360
then all of a sudden it goes through a Class

877
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,599
four fault managed limited power cable and it gets to

878
00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:23,159
a receiver, and the receiver supplies various electric loads, whether

879
00:51:23,199 --> 00:51:26,119
it's taking it purely DC to DC, or if it's

880
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:29,599
an AC to d C conversion, or if it's a

881
00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:32,400
d C to AC inversion, whatever it.

882
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: Is, and I probably got that backwards, I can't remember,

883
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:42,039
but Anyway, whatever it's doing is getting more and more

884
00:51:42,639 --> 00:51:44,159
into what people want. Now.

885
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 3: Again, it's kind of ironic that the class four fault

886
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,800
man systems are considered so safe and they promote them.

887
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,079
It's so safe and it's pulsed. It's it's even safer

888
00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:58,039
than AFCI and gfci's and all this kind of stuff.

889
00:51:58,039 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 2: And obviously it's not going to handle massive loads votes.

890
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:03,199
Speaker 3: Okay, you have limiting factors here on the transmitters and

891
00:52:03,199 --> 00:52:05,800
receivers and the conductor sizes, but at the end of

892
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,960
the day, we're not talking about running thousand amps through

893
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,440
these things, so it's very limited in that scope. But again,

894
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:14,480
the fact that it can do voltages up to four

895
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:17,760
hundred and fifty vaults and send them long distances in

896
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,159
these packets.

897
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: Makes it very promising.

898
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: And there's places around the country right now that are

899
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:29,280
utilizing this type of system to do lighting and things

900
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,800
like that, and not so much very load dependent applications yet.

901
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,679
Okay yet, but if for the most part they can

902
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:41,400
handle lighting very well, most applications monitors, computers, terminal, all

903
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,880
that stuff that normally we'd have to convert to DC anyway,

904
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,079
like with LED lighting, I mean, why I have to

905
00:52:46,119 --> 00:52:48,719
go from AC to DC you know or whatever. Why

906
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,320
convert and if you can send it longer distances, pump

907
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,960
up the voltage and go DC DC and be able

908
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,320
to it just makes sense for a lot of our

909
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,719
lighting needs. Now now that the lighting is is getting

910
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,119
to thirteen watts and all these kind of things with

911
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,440
LEDs that are going to equivalent to sixty watts and

912
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,199
all these kinds of it makes sense, right, power consumption.

913
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,480
Everybody's worried about energy and yata, so it makes sense.

914
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:14,599
So these things are gonna be coming on. I employ

915
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,239
electricians out there, get familiar and maybe try to find

916
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,159
your niche. Now, the irony I was talking about is

917
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:26,239
that these aren't permitted in that I'm aware of. I

918
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,599
haven't I really haven't looked that deep into the twenty

919
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:32,000
twenty six, But in previous in twenty twenty three, you

920
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:36,000
weren't permitted to use a Class four fault managed system

921
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:39,559
in a dwelling. That's weird to me because I would

922
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:42,159
think you could get away with big dwellings and do

923
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:44,320
all the lighting in this type of stuff and all

924
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,199
the heavy loads and demands on devices that use DC

925
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,760
that are gonna have those power bricks that convert it.

926
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:56,039
You know, I would I would think that you would,

927
00:53:56,039 --> 00:53:58,840
this would this would be safe in somebody, we'd be

928
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,559
pioneering this. But in the code it was not permitted

929
00:54:01,559 --> 00:54:05,119
in dwellings. So it was very heavily commercially was driving it.

930
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:08,519
And so I imagine that will change. Okay, whether it

931
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:09,400
has already, I haven't be.

932
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 2: Honest with you.

933
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,039
Speaker 3: I haven't looked. I really haven't looked. I probably should look,

934
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:16,199
but I haven't. Once that changes, you're gonna have houses.

935
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,599
It could be ten thousand square foot but have one

936
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:23,639
hundred AMP services. I mean you could if it gas appliances. Well,

937
00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:25,960
I mean, I'm just saying in theory, if the majority

938
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,280
of the loading was being handled from a DC direct,

939
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,559
then you know you're just offsetting the AC loads to

940
00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:35,800
the different things. So I mean, if you think about it,

941
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:41,280
it is plausible, really is. But I don't think we're

942
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,280
there yet. And the beauty of the way that the

943
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,760
twenty twenty six Code is addressing limited energy is to

944
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,519
try to separate these things out so it is less

945
00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:57,559
confusion because it gives you obviously it's giving us more articles,

946
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,519
and more articles are going to be more sp Pacific

947
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:05,039
to what we're trying to address. So that's the effort

948
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,119
that it's trying to do. Okay, you kind of follow

949
00:55:09,159 --> 00:55:15,639
the logic train here on that, So okay, that's it

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for that. All right, folks, Hopefully you got something out

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of today is introduction. We're just kind of dipping our

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toe in the twenty twenty six edition. We will have

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other episodes that talk about it and get a little

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more detail into it, but hopefully it just kind of

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give you a little bit of a sprinkling, if you will,

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of what's coming in the twenty twenty six the thought

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process of where it's going. If you get your hands

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on a twenty twenty six edition, obviously it's available in

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the link and you can look at it and kind

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of see the structure and get familiar with it and

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some things. It's just going to add clarity, a little

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easier to understand some things, and it's gonna maybe it

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doesn't change what was in the twenty twenty six for example,

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for some specific article or section, But sometimes when a

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rule changes to add clarity, it wasn't intended to change

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the rule. It was intended to make the rules read

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better and a little easier to understand and make it

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more appliable, and so there's not a conflict between an

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interpretation that an inspector may give and the installer. That

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might be the only reason something was changed. Of course,

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could be just a brand new change. But I think

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you see, this is why we did the code panels

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and why the process that an FPA does this every

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three years, because there is not to force you to

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have to.

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Speaker 2: Learn the code again.

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Speaker 3: That that's you know, some people think that's what it is,

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but that's not it, and it's not an effort to

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keep you confused. It really is supposed to be an

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effort to catch things that were missed, add things that

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were that needed to be clarified, add new technology as

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it emerged, and then roll it into the code and

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create a minimum safety standard that everybody can understand a

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little bit better. That's the goal every three years. Now,

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whether we achieve that or not, I can't.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: You got to be the judge of that, whether you

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think we actually achieve it or not. But there it is,

989
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all right, folks. We will catch you on another episode

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of Mastering the NEEC. My name is Paul Abernaty. Thanks

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for joining me. Hey, if you're looking to learn the

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National Electrical Code just a little bit better and you

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want to get our get into our fast tracks family.

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Speaker 2: Do me a favor.

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Speaker 3: Go over to fasttrackssystem dot com. Watch our video. It's

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under the info tab and the navigation. Watch the video

997
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about our courses, read the blogs, enjoy those, Join our

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So just embroaden yourself and learn as much as you can.

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That's what we're here to do. Till next time, folks,

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Stay safe, God bless.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning into another electrifying episode of the Master

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the NDP podcast. We hope you're feeling more powered up

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and ready to tackle the electrical world with the knowledge

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and confidence you need to succeed. Remember, in the electrical trade,

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knowledge is power, and we're here to make sure you

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stay plugged into the latest insights, tips.

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