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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: This is Steve Ingram from Stabished, West Midlands and I

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play at Envil Golf Club in south Steputire, England. This

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is Golf Smarter number nine seven one.

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Speaker 1: When you have the opportunity to be in control, you

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basically would look at the pros and say, how do

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they look like they're moving so fast? But it's effortless movement.

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And I think effortless movement is really the opportunity to understand.

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Let's start with a program that works on the body

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from the ground up. Let's build balance first, and then

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let's create what I would call the body's awareness to

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fire muscles and use them properly versus them not working

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at all. It's about body awareness and muscle activation. That's

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a big part of what people should think about as

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they're maybe thinking about after what we talked about today,

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where would I start up? That's what would I do

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to create a plan for myself? And I think it

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starts out with asking yourself, do you ever even give

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yourself about evaluation? Can you stand on one leg for

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ten seconds by itself? And then can you stand on

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the other leg for ten seconds? And then challenge yourself

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to stand for ten seconds with your eyes closed, which

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really creates more awareness like oh my gosh, I can't

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even get there for two or three seconds.

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Speaker 3: Get more out of your body and your game in

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just ten minutes a day with fitness expert Joey D.

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Speaker 1: This is Golf Smarter, sharing stories, tips and insights from

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great golf minds to help you lower your score and

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raise your golf IQ. Here's your host, Fred Green.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast. Joey D.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Fred, how are you man? I great? Another great

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day in Jupiter, Florida.

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Speaker 3: And when do you ever say, ooh, it's a bad

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rough day.

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Speaker 1: You put any times over come out several weeks when

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all it does is monsoon rain, I say.

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Speaker 3: That a lot. Yeah, okay, that's fair, that's fair. But

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it's three hundred and sixty five days of golf every year,

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it is.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, And here we actually did an

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indoor facility to make sure that because of Florida's weather conditions,

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we would have that check that box checked.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's right. With these indoor simulators, now you can

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play any course in the world right up against your screen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good. They've done a great job. Technology

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has finally gotten where I think it should have been

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for a while to create that reality for people.

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Speaker 3: And it's only getting better.

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Speaker 1: It is continuously getting better, and I'm optimistic and hopeful

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that we can not allow weather to restrict us in

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this part of golf.

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Speaker 3: Right right, But that's not what we're going to be

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talking about today. We're not going on the technology of

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indoor golf, all right. We're talking about the most important

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tool in your golf bag. And it's not even in

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your bag. You're the bag. The most important tool being

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your body. Like that, I agree, and we just you know,

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so often I hear instructors saying, yeah, the number one

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question I get when people come out to get a

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lesson is I need more distance? Right, Well, they try

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to switch clubs to get more distance, they try different

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balls to get more distance. They even might even try

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some tweaks to their swing to get more distance. But really,

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you want more distance, you got to strengthen up, right.

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Speaker 1: I agree. You know. The one the one thing that

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I think people will all agree on is the body

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actually moves the club. The club won't move until you

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put it in your hand. And I think that's the

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connection that if people get that if you become more

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efficient and aware of what your body's limitations and its

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strengths are, then you can start to hone those skills

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or develop the ability for field to become real and

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then actually achieve that distance if that is in fact

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the one thing people are always trying to get more of.

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I think, having been in golf for twenty seven years

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at the highest level and grateful for this career, is

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accuracy can outshine distance day in and day out. And

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I've seen that with the best players who have never

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been the longest hitters but have had massive success. And

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I want to send that message to every player at

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every level. Although distance is attractive and people love, you know,

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hitting that long ball off the tee, sometimes that's not

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really you know where everybody ends up. And I've seen

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it with great players with great results.

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Speaker 3: We actually had an episode years ago called give me

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ten feet closer over ten yards farther any day of

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the week.

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Speaker 1: I like that and I agree. I mean that is

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something that when you think about accuracy and opportunity to score,

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the better you are at that part of the game,

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the more opportunity that will come your way. And I

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think that's that's great because it speaks volumes about distance

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is not always the key.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and then when people, you know, the other

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thing they always ask is golf instructors and they come

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in for a lesson. First of course is distance, and

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the other one is more consistency. And then you asked

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the person, well, tell me about your last five scores. Oh,

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you know, I shot eighty five, eighty six, eighty four,

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eighty five, eighty six. And they're like, you're very consistent

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with the problem, right, just because well, I make you know,

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to golf. I mean, I guess the ultimate goal is

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fewer mishits, not eliminate them. You can't, No one can't.

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Speaker 1: Fred one of the greatest things that I learned in

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my time with VJ. Singing. We spent many, many many

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years together, inseparable, but it was interesting to say that

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he would argue that your best misses are the opportunity

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to get your best results. So if you can control

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your miss and you managed it, you would have better

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opportunity to really understand the consistency of the game, right,

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because you're going to miss in golf. That's a given right. Right.

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and people go, where did that come from? Right? But

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if we're talking about managing awareness and knowing what your

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miss is, I think that's your opportunity to get the

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body to pay attention to what causes those misses. And

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it's not always swing related. It has to do with

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what the brain is telling the body to do and

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does the body actually know that it's doing it or

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does it think it knows. So reality in golf and

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the golf swing is a very different thing than the

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perception of reality. Right. And I think many times some

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of the greatest instructors, but being my greatest mentor ever,

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would say to me, you know, I think the reason

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people don't push harmonia. He was, you know, people don't

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want to go under the microscope or go on video

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many times because you think you're doing something. And the

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reality is when you swing like you do and you

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see it, you go, oh my gosh, I don't never

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look like that. But in reality, when you start to

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become aware of how can we lessen the things that

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are going wrong in about one point five seconds, when

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it's from the start to finish, then I think awareness

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is key, and I think identifying those things and bringing

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the body into that equation saying I know what's going wrong,

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now let me get the body to do its job,

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so the club and the swing can get together and

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do their job.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the great things and I talk

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people to relate when when we all go for our

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annual physicals, right and yeah, hopefully we're doing that right. Preventative.

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healthier lives. But in the golf life, the life of

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your your golf swing, your golf body, of golf game,

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we don't do that enough. And I think I watched

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it at the tour level and have been very grateful

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to be part of the whole process. So week in

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and week out, we'd get there on a Monday, you'd

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go to the tour trucks that the texts, the guys

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that were amazing to support us. Whichever club company you use,

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they would check the lofts and the lies and the

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and the and the frequencies and the shafts and you know,

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they they would check all of those things, right. But

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but what we need to do on the body side

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is give ourselves an opportunity to evaluate what's going on

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with your ability to move the body in the way

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that it has to stop creating obstacles. And I think

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if people could dial into what I'm saying is give

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yourself and whichever one you want use, there's plenty of

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evaluations or self evaluations you can use. But actually do

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that check in once a month to see, you know,

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what does your internal and external rotation look like? Because

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if you can't get a club to move in the

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path that it's supposed to, that's when you start seeing

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these very common things like you know, raising the club

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instead of rotating and allowing the arm to move into

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the position to get to the backswing in the right sequence. Right,

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separation and X factor? What does that mean? Right? Are

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your hips separating or your lower body and upper bodies

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separating from one another to create those things that give

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you time and opportunity to square the club face out address.

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or you're lifting your toes too soon and you're losing

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connection to the ground and balance isn't where you need

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it to be. Now you're fighting gravity, you're fighting obstacles

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that don't even belong in your swing that are making

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it more complicated. Because you and I could argue it

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could one of the most complicated swings in all of sports.

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that if we can limit that and keep it simple,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but your function, your job is not focused on

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the golf swing, is it? It is?

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Speaker 1: Our job has evolved to work closer than ever before

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with the swing instructors and the players that take this

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game very serious or want to take it more serious.

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are working on, now we have created a true team

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that says, hey, listen, this person can't rotate. They lack

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thirty degrees of rotation. How do we do that? That's

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a perfect example. Like if you think you're turning the

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back to your back to the target, but you're only

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moving your torso your upper body twenty degrees when it

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needs to move forty five. Going to force it to

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get there, because once it stops, the next thing you

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do is you lift instead of turn, but we think

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we're turning, Oh, we only turn twenty degrees then we lift.

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So those are things that I think through the evaluation

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process or assessments that give you an opportunity to check yourself,

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to say, am I actually where I need to be?

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a tool for us in golf, The assessment process is

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an opportunity to really say to yourself. Here's a perfect example.

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Now we actually have these tools where they're making these

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insoles in your golf shoes. It comes up on your

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cell phone to say, am I at fifty to fifty

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at address over the ball? Am I at you know,

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sixty forty in my toes and heels? Where am I

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distributing weight? And how does that affect my golfs? So

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we're getting more body feedback and awareness with tools that

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have become available. But think if we even go back

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a few steps and say you can check your balance

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points out any of that technology, because there are simple

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tests and assessments you can do. You can check your

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internal and external rotation without any technical devices, but you

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actually have to be willing to go through that process

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to ask yourself, where is my body as it relates

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to my swing?

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specifically are things like that we kind of reiterate so

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often on this show, or the flexibility, mobility, strength, stamina.

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for is to help golfers with those functions in their body.

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create these opportunities for people to do their evaluations, so

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we can create individualism. Not every human body works the same.

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work on that specifically with all of the joints. Right.

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have tight lats, they have like flexibility is different than mobility, right.

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how you recruit velocity and speed, so we can work

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people should always be aware of in golf is where

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is your balance to the entire swank? Because when you

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swing out of balance, you're out of control. And we really,

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really do a better job more than ever now giving

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people an opportunity to create the ability to swing in balance.

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And I think all of those things factor into a

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better controlled golf swing. And when you're in control, you

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can swing it faster, you can create more speed. You know,

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you maintain all of the great things that give the

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body an opportunity to move that club efficiently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think of all the issues that I have,

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which there are many, I think that balance, especially with

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my driver, balance is a big issue for me. There's

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been times where I would, you know, just come out

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of my shoes and just fall all over the place

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after my swing. And I'm doing everything I can to

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try to stay in balance, but boy, I would really

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like to be able to figure out how to stay centered.

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Friend that I play with told me, and he was

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volunteering at a recent PGA event. He said, when these

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guys on the tour swing the club, their body does

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not move in the sense of swaying. Falling is like

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their rock steady and it's just all you know, their

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whole body is into every swing, but they stay on

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balance the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in control. And really the golf swing starts

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from the ground out right. If you lose connection to

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the ground, you lose the opportunity to really control your

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golf swing. And what you said, many many people will

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experience they want to swing it faster, or what they

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don't understand is swinging it faster doesn't actually mean you're

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going to get a better result. Many times people top

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the ball, they missed the ball. They know they can't

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really swing efficiently because they're not in balance right, and

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that affects the golf swing maybe more so than anything

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at a recreational level, right, people that are learning or

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aspiring to play the game better. If you are more

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aware of the things you can do to swing efficiently,

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I think that is one of the things that would

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get you more motivated to do the work on what

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I would call the body side of golf, right. And

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I think people need to have good information to create

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opportunity to make decisions on what's best for them as individuals,

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because not everything works for every single person. But I

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think there is something in the work that has been

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created on an hour side of golf, and I would

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call it the biomechanics, the sports science side, the physical side,

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that helps people more so than today to have a

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better golf swing.

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Speaker 3: Can you help me to understand the difference between swinging

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faster and swinging harder?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I sure can so Its a huge difference, right,

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there's a huge difference swinging faster, is it? We use

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the term velocity. Something has to move in a direction

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with the force going to the same direction. Sometimes swinging

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harder doesn't mean you're actually using those forces correctly. You're

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interrupting through different movements that don't match the directional force.

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So when you create force, you're working with the forces

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of gravity right internally by the skeleton and externally by

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the muscles. And how does that affect your body? You know,

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in a rotational movement. But if you're not moving like

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you said, and you were describing the way the pros move,

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then you start you start moving with forces in different directions.

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So that implies that you have to work on understanding

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how to move directionally the right way with the right

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force imbalance, which creates a really good result. You don't

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swing out of your shoes or you don't you know,

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get get your body to stall, and then your your

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you know, you know, because you're compensating in that moment

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and you start doing other things like hands working too

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too much or arms swinging too fast while the other

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parts of the body are slowing down. So that's a

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really good point you make, and I think people would

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work on understanding the difference between the two. You have

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to move in a direction that the ball and the

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body needs to go simultaneously, and then you get a

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better result.

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Speaker 3: What do you feel is the greatest contributor to a

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faster swing? Is it? I think muscle is Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the ability for the brain right to

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send the signals to the body that you have to

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use these these muscles, these body parts to get you

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to understand how to be and control. And I think

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that speaks volumes about understanding where you are in time

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and space, right, And I think people don't always know that,

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and they think when you have the opportunity to be

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in control, you basically would look at the pros and say,

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how do they look like they're moving so fast? But

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it's effortless movement, right, And I think effortless movement is

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really the opportunity to understand. Let's start with a program

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that works on the body from the ground up, Like

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let's build balance first, and then let's create what I

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would call the body's awareness to fire muscles and use

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them properly versus them not working at all. It's about

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body awareness and muscle activation, and that's a big part

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of what people should we should think about as they're

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maybe thinking about after what we talked about today. Where

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would I start on this? What would I do to create,

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you know, a plan for myself? And I think it

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starts out with asking yourself, you know, so do you

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ever even give yourself a balance evaluation? Right? Can you

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stand on one leg for ten seconds by itself? And

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then can you stand on the other leg for ten seconds?

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And then challenge yourself to stand for ten seconds with

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your eyes closed, which really creates more awareness like, oh

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my gosh, I can't even get there for two or

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three seconds. So, balance awareness and distribution of balance, because

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that's a huge part. Golf is starts off at a

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center to fifty to fifty, and then it starts to

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transition as you move the club from takeaway towards its

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kind of journey to the backswing. And where does that

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weight distribution require your feet to be and your body

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to be while you're in that movement pattern? Are you

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eighty percent in your toes and how do you know that?

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Because if you're swinging in your toes and you should

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be at the top of your back swing, it's sixty

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to seventy percent in your heel. Those are things people

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should be aware of and there are ways to easily

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do that work to get there. So that's awareness number one.

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Number two are you're using the muscles in your calf

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and you in your quads in your glutes, and people

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kind of joke about those things, but these are big,

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strong muscles that the body has the ability to turn

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on or use as a tool to get your body

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to feel really strong and connected. But if you don't

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know you're using them, it's because you probably don't. So

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there's simple ways to do that, right. There are simple

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exercises to create activation of musculature in the body that

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supports the stability to create more balance and power and

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speed and control. But you have to do that for

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it to work. It's no different than people getting on

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a driving range and hitting balls. You have to do

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the reps with your body. And I tell people you

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don't have to be in a gym to do it.

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You can do it in your own like there are

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ways to do things to create all this activation without

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tons of tools, because I don't think everybody fits into

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that mold like I'm going to go to the gym

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and get stronger for golf, like we've been fighting that

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for years. You don't have to, but you do have

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to have awareness of what to do and do it correctly.

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Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean just doing a couple of stretches

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when you get to the golf course before before you

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even walk up to the range. And then I can't

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believe how often I see this when I go up

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to the driving range. And mostly I'm at the driving range.

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I mean I do go out to practice too, but

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mostly i'm an hour before my round begins. It's when

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I get to the driving range to hit balls and

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to focus on what I'm doing. But I see people,

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you know, taking their golf club and stretching over their

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head and their back and then they go twist, twist, twist, Okay,

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I'm ready to go. I'm like, really, I think that's

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going to be the most efficient way to get your

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body ready for your round of golf.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because I think that's what has evolved, that's

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the acceptance that we have allowed to kind of sneak

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into the golf game and think we're creating a good

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result before we hit a ball. But what people don't

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understand is the golf swing can be very taxing on

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the body. And we should talk about this more because

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people that are generally deconditioned right and have not paid

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a lot of attention to their body aging or their

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body not being able to support the movement and the

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swing usually will end up with these small injuries that

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can become larger injuries. And I think you shedding light

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on the fact that you personally spend an hour is

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a really big message because if you looked at what

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a tour player does, it starts hours before they get

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to the first tea. And that's the beauty of having

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been able for me to create programs and write books

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to give people opportunities to check themselves on the reality

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of what you get out is what you put in.

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And if you go and you do the thirty second

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golf form up before you start hitting balls in the range,

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that's pretty much the result you're gonna get, which is

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not the one you want. And I think even if

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you gave yourself a full ten minutes, like legitimately doing

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what you had to do before you got on a

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driving range. You would be amazed on the difference that

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you would feel in your driving raine session if you

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even give yourself that much time, or before you ran

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to the first tea, because you give yourself no time.

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But it's a big difference. If you did a ten

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minute activation the proper way. You activated your balance, your brain, hemispheres,

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You activated the ability to truly understand how am I rotating.

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You activated the shoulders to make sure there's internal next

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do rotation. You activated the torso and you know what

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has to happen when you need velocity and your hips

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need to rotate in sequence with your with your upper body.

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Ten minutes is not a lot to ask, but the

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result could be amazing.

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Speaker 3: So I started playing golf when I was in my

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early forties. I was introduced to it by my son

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who was at camp, and became obsessed from that point on.

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And I played sports as a kid growing up, and

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you know, did some things along the way and always

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tried to be in decent shape. But I wasn't working out.

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I wasn't you know, doing anything all swim it's my workout, right,

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go for long walks. That's my workout. But since I

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started playing golf, I've been more obsessed with my conditioning

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than any other time in my life. And to this

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and even now, I try my hardest. I'm I'm you know,

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five at least five days a week, I'm doing some

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you know a little bit of weight resistance, flexibility, mobility

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yo oga. I do that regularly for forty five minutes

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to an hour each morning, and I'm grateful that I'm

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doing it, but you know, there I would. I've been

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working with this one app that I've found years ago

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through the podcast called Dynamic Golfers, which is like a

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fifteen to eighteen minute random stretching you know things they've

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set it up for as Dynamic Golfers, but it's mainly

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the workouts are dynamic athletes type of thing, and I

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get questions a lot. It's like, where can I find

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information that's going to help me get to a better

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place for my body so that I am more flexible,

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that I do have more ability, that I can be

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balanced and stable. And that's why I was excited when

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you kind of came across my desktop here because of

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what you've been doing. Who you've been working with and

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what you've been developing.

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Speaker 1: I like that you're doing the dynamic program because the

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difference for people is sometimes they're like, what does that

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actually mean? So when you think about the words dynamic

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and static, the first thing I want to tell people

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all the time is we found that static stretches are

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less effective than dynamic movement. And to simplify all that,

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if you say, my hamstrings are tight, which affect your

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low back, essentially right, and that's a big part of

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what happens to golfers. They have tight hamstrings which affect

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their low back. And it's a common that's a common

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theme for people, especially head down and you touch your

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or you try to touch your toes and your fingertips

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get to your knees or just your shins right, and

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you hold it for a few seconds, it's static. But

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if you actually stood like you had two ski poles

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in your hand, and you swung your leg like a pendulum,

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or you swung it forward and backward, the hamstring elongates

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and length and sort of like a ballerina. When you

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see ballerina is the reason they're so efficient and they're

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so flexible, and they have so much mobility as they

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work through dynamic movement, So that means continuous movement or

481
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:15,880
something moving in either one direction or multiple directions to

482
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,960
create length or ability to free up something that concentrically

483
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,039
should be tight. That should be something that gets concentrically

484
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:29,960
tight versus eccentrically longer. So give yourself an opportunity to

485
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:35,559
not just stretch statically right. Dynamic Like you said, movement

486
00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:39,319
is a huge part of success for people that want

487
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,720
better mobility, better movement essentially. So what I like is

488
00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:46,319
there's so much information out there in the world today,

489
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,640
which I think we're grateful for, but which one is

490
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,920
best for you? I think what you have to ask

491
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,599
yourself is first and foremost, what are you looking for

492
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,559
and how do you apply that and does it work

493
00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:01,559
for you? You found Dynamic, you know the dynamic app

494
00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:03,920
and what you've been working on, But you know, I

495
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,480
think that people generally get confused in the search for

496
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:11,319
what works. I think what you should first ask yourself

497
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,599
is write a list of things that you're looking to accomplish,

498
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:18,559
and in that, when you get on a search, what

499
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,400
are you feeling that that search engine and that result

500
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,480
does for you? When you can actually apply that to yourself.

501
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:29,319
And I think one thing I love about where we're

502
00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:32,599
going with our app is the one we're building. We're

503
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:36,319
rebuilding it actually be ready in December, is it will

504
00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:40,960
give people the opportunity in real time to work alongside

505
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:46,839
of us with actual golf specific modalities. And what do

506
00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:49,880
I mean by that is starting from everything we've talked

507
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,599
about to this point, like how do I get my

508
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,680
body to be aware of what do I need balance

509
00:28:56,759 --> 00:29:00,599
wise to be able to swing as long as hard

510
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,960
as I can in balance efficiently? And then how do

511
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,119
I get all the muscles to activate without killing myself

512
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,880
in a thirty or forty minute hour workout in the gym?

513
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,400
I want to create good activation? How do I get

514
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,200
better joint mobility? So we've done things very specifically that

515
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,720
we created that were born on tour, and we actually

516
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,519
created a simple system that works for people in every

517
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,480
single you know, facet of the golf body.

518
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:31,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned does it work for me? You know

519
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,680
you want to ask that question, does it work for me?

520
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:37,039
But I also I think that especially with this audience,

521
00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:40,039
we're all kind of obsessed here, does it work for golf?

522
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:43,440
Will it? Will it help me in my golf game,

523
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:48,440
you know. And what's interesting is this dynamic program that

524
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,000
I've been doing, this single stretch movement that you just

525
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:56,960
suggested about, you know, holding the sticks and then rotating

526
00:29:57,279 --> 00:29:59,839
moving your leg back and forth. Yeah, I've never done

527
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,359
that on this program and I've been doing it for

528
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,559
a couple of years. They've never had me do that.

529
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:03,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

530
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Speaker 3: I think people, and I think hamstrings are an issue

531
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,200
for me because I walk the course, always walk the

532
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,880
course as often as I can, and as I'm aging,

533
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,880
I'm starting to feel like, okay, my left leg behind

534
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,240
the knee here, I'm starting to feel a little bit.

535
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:21,119
The little ibuprofen is going to help out for the

536
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:23,640
rest of the round. But I think that it's a

537
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,000
hamstring and I've always had a hamstring issue. Yeah.

538
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Speaker 1: I think many people, if you gave them a survey

539
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:36,119
to say, what are the things that bother me the most?

540
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:40,039
And I struggle with that prevent me from being very efficient?

541
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,759
And then how do I feel before I play? How

542
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:47,119
am I feeling at nine holes? How am I feeling?

543
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,680
Can I get through eighteen holes? Is my body starting

544
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,640
to do things that really are hindering me to enjoy

545
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,319
the game? I think another big thing that I touch

546
00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:01,000
on all the time is, you know, have the awareness

547
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:07,079
of giving your body the proper hydration is a huge,

548
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:12,200
huge key and a factor because golf is traditionally you know,

549
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:16,000
played over maybe these days five to six hours. I

550
00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:19,160
think it's been the big problem with people wanting to

551
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,279
play golf, you know, and consistently getting enough rounds in

552
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:26,200
because it takes longer and longer. I think people have

553
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,319
been starting to become more aware of how do we

554
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,400
put people on the clock, and instead of that becoming

555
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,680
something that annoys people, we should always be more aware

556
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,000
of in that process of those amount of hours, what

557
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:44,640
are we doing during the course of that round to

558
00:31:44,839 --> 00:31:48,839
maintain you know, our body's ability to move efficiently. So

559
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:52,519
the information that you're going to acquire, make sure that

560
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,039
whatever app you use, like you said, it applies and

561
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,319
works for you, because not everything does. And I'll give

562
00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:00,680
you an example. I've had many many people come in

563
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,359
here and say, try yoga, but I just can't get

564
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:04,359
through it. And I think yoga is amazing, but yoga's

565
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,079
a process, like you can't get through twenty six poses

566
00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:12,039
in one vignace if you can't move the way they

567
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:14,480
need you to move. Your body has limitations. But as

568
00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:19,119
we slowly see ourselves working to increase and improve the

569
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,519
ability to get our bodies to move efficiently, well, then

570
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I think we're doing the right thing. So I would

571
00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:27,279
say to people, make a list of what you need,

572
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,759
and does that information that you're searching for apply to

573
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:33,200
you and does it work right? If it doesn't, then

574
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:36,279
you don't want to force something. Find something that does work,

575
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:42,440
and give you an opportunity for those exercises or those stretches,

576
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,200
or those mobility movements to work into your golf swing.

577
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,799
You know it's working because you start to see and

578
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,279
feel the results right. The body will give is a

579
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:53,319
great barometer of what is or isn't working. You don't

580
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:56,440
want to push yourself because simple stretches can create injuries

581
00:32:56,519 --> 00:33:01,119
and people we've seen before in my world, if you overstretch,

582
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,359
r you do things that you think are helpful, you

583
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,200
end up getting injured. And I think, like you're saying,

584
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,720
your hamstring has always been somewhat of a little bit

585
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,920
of a you know, a hindrance for you. How do

586
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,119
you address it? And it could be as simple as

587
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:15,640
changing what you're doing to what I was suggesting versus

588
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,759
you reaching down trying to touch your toastatically. So those

589
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:23,960
are simple little things that I think make huge impactful differences.

590
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Speaker 3: When you say, make a list of what you want

591
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:39,279
to do, how do we know that that's what we

592
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:42,039
want to do? I mean, you know you make a

593
00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:44,799
list of things, but are you really aware without coaching,

594
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,880
without getting the help or the assessment from a professional,

595
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,839
do we really know what we want to do?

596
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: I think the answer is no, you don't. But I

597
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,599
think I think in the question lies the answer. So

598
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,880
if you are serious enough about wanting to make improvements

599
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:04,480
in your golf game, you have to go all the

600
00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:06,960
way back to where you and I started, was you know,

601
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:09,519
the greatest you know club in the bag, which isn't

602
00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:11,320
even a club or the tool is the body? And

603
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,880
I think if you can ask yourself honestly, how is

604
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,079
my body prepared or is it not prepared to play

605
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:22,360
the game I want? And if you can really be

606
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,360
honest with yourself, that's the greatest starting point. Ask yourself

607
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,760
the first question, is my body capable of doing what

608
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,360
I want to do? Can I swing as fast as

609
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,719
I want in control? Or do I swing like you

610
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,840
said out of my shoes, Do I lose my balance

611
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,800
and I find myself not being able to finish my

612
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,079
swing without stepping forward or backward, or you know, feeling

613
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:51,119
like I'm on a surface like an earthquake, like things

614
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:54,039
are moving underneath me. That shouldn't you know? Am I

615
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:57,280
in control of finishing my swing properly? Right? And I

616
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,920
think that's the first question. Do I get fatigue? Do

617
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,199
I feel tightness in my back straight away or my hamstrings?

618
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,719
Ask yourself what are the things that you are aware

619
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,760
of and then write that down. Then from there, what

620
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,719
do you want to work on? Well? I want to

621
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,079
I feel like I don't have any flexibility. Well, then

622
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:20,400
let's address flexibility. And then I feel like mobility is

623
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,119
a problem because I can't get my arms or my

624
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,679
body in the position that it needs to be. So

625
00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:31,039
I know that I'm doing things that I shouldn't. And

626
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,679
understand the difference between mobility and flexibility, because it's a

627
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:38,159
pretty big difference, but they both matter. Are you strong

628
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,400
enough to maintain you know, a round of eighteen holes?

629
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Do you need to increase your endurance and do you

630
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,719
have to get stronger? Do you even know if your

631
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,880
muscles are working properly or not? Those are great questions.

632
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,679
And when you can start to do the assessments, which

633
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,480
some are as easy as six and some are greater.

634
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:01,239
Some take thirty minutes, and everybody has the opportunity to say,

635
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:03,559
I don't want to do something that takes thirty minutes,

636
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:07,039
but I wouldn't mind taking ten minutes or so to

637
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,400
figure out do I move properly?

638
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 3: How do I know?

639
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,599
Speaker 1: You know what that means? Right? And I think you

640
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:16,360
can check the list for yourself as a player at

641
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,519
any level to know, yes, I can start to swing

642
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:21,599
in balance now I know how to do that. These

643
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,280
three simple exercise are going to help me get better melts.

644
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,880
I know that my quads and my glutes and my

645
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,000
lower body for my waist down those muscles aren't supporting

646
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,760
my swing because I can't even field them. So can

647
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,679
I create muscle activation and awareness?

648
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 3: Yes?

649
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: And then I think, can you understand how to get

650
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,559
your back to terms of the target completely? Can you

651
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:43,679
rotate your tour so properly? Can you get your arms

652
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,119
to move with the proper measurements within a certain amount

653
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,360
of You know everybody moves a little different, some more flexible,

654
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,280
others or not. Some have more joint mobility, others don't,

655
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,880
but within a certain number that you know you need

656
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,840
to be at. Those are all important, you know, pieces

657
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,559
of information, just different than what a track man would do,

658
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,039
which quantifies all the results. And I think if people

659
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:06,519
just do a little bit of research, you can find

660
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:08,320
something that works efficiently for you. And that's what I

661
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,840
would strongly suggest. That's what we do here at joeyd

662
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,000
Golf and hit it great. We put everybody through an

663
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,360
assessment and evaluation as an individual and find out what works.

664
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,559
We start slow. Less is more. You don't need you know,

665
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:23,519
twenty things to start to get better, but you can

666
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:26,960
use two or three to become more efficient in each

667
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:29,079
part of what we're talking about.

668
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: Are you saying that we could just start with ten

669
00:37:34,519 --> 00:37:37,079
minutes a day? If you do ten minutes a day,

670
00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:41,719
you know, and try to be consistent with it, I

671
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,519
can see it's like, oh, you know what, I need

672
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:46,039
a little bit more time. I need more time, but

673
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:49,039
ten minutes a day can be a great start.

674
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: I just did a piece recently that said, if you

675
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,079
give me ten minutes and you commit to three times

676
00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:01,639
a week, I guessuarantee you you will feel things that

677
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:04,840
you never felt before. And I think people's hesitation is

678
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,199
nothing can happen in ten minutes. But if you truly

679
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,719
gave me ten minutes, I would give you an opportunity

680
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,840
to feel things and have results you didn't even know

681
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,039
are possible. And I say that, and I stand by

682
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,719
that after twenty seven years of doing at the highest level.

683
00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:19,880
We don't say things we don't mean, and we don't

684
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,039
do things that don't work. And I think for people,

685
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,639
gaining people's trust is an opportunity to say, I gave

686
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:31,679
you my time and my trust. I'm going to hope

687
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:36,159
that where I'm putting all of those things will give

688
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:38,239
me a result that works. And I know that for

689
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,079
a fact, We've had thousands and thousands of people that

690
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:45,639
have come through this academy, in this system that I've

691
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:47,960
either lost hope or feel like there's no hope for them,

692
00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:51,960
leaving here with the greatest sense of change and awareness.

693
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,360
And you can't change overnight, but you can change one

694
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,920
movement at a time. And I think you're right. Ten

695
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,159
minutes you can do things you didn't know that would

696
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,239
create a massive difference in your golf body. Wow.

697
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:10,599
Speaker 3: Wow, Well listen in reading your website. I've found it

698
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:14,639
fascinating and that's hit it great dot com.

699
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, hit a great.

700
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,599
Speaker 3: People should definitely check it out. Hit it great dot com.

701
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,480
But in reviewing it, you talk about the people, the

702
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:26,880
thousands of people that have been through. You have a

703
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,800
list of names on there that in the golf world alone,

704
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,280
but maybe even beyond that. It's the one, the one

705
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:40,039
name identity on these people that it's like, whoa, these

706
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:42,239
are big names when you just like DJ, we know

707
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,119
who were you talking about? Keegan Brooks, PJ, Ricky. Those

708
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:49,159
are all people who have been through your program. And

709
00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:51,599
all I have to say Ricky, I mean we're not

710
00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:55,960
talking Ricardo here. We all know Ricky is right, it's amazing,

711
00:39:56,159 --> 00:40:01,599
or Henderson, but we you know, everyone can oh those

712
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:04,239
names and those are the people that you've been working

713
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,719
with for years, right, Yeah.

714
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,119
Speaker 1: You know one of the things that I think I

715
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:12,599
don't like to talk about a lot, but giving given

716
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:15,159
the opportunity, and I mean this because what happens to

717
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,800
people and I've found this to be true and I

718
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,599
think you would agree with me, Fred. Everybody wants to

719
00:40:20,639 --> 00:40:23,840
feel like in the moment that they're working with you,

720
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,480
they are as important, and I do agree with that,

721
00:40:26,599 --> 00:40:32,559
but those names, those players knew the importance of what

722
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,360
they had to do for their careers. And when I

723
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,719
think about that, you know, people all have the opportunity

724
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,960
to ask themselves, what do you want to get out

725
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,039
of it? And those players put the work in and

726
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:48,519
had decorated phenomenal careers. And I was a part of that,

727
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,239
you know, at a level that was very hands on,

728
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:56,639
and I still have the most amount of gratitude today

729
00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:59,559
for the trust they put in me and the team

730
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:03,000
work that did help them, because ultimately you have to

731
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:05,519
have hands off and they go out and they're the

732
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:08,719
only ones, and you have to honor that, like you

733
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,079
can only give so much to them and the rest

734
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:14,159
they have to take out and apply to themselves in

735
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:17,719
the game. And I think when I walk through this

736
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,920
facility many many years later, I still look up at

737
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,639
the banners that hang on the walls, and I am

738
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,440
still impressed with the work that these players were willing

739
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:32,639
to do to get those banners to hang. And that

740
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,000
was basically the book Hang the Banner. That was our

741
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:40,800
newest book that I love because it's kind of gives

742
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,639
you the most modern approach to the science of the swing,

743
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,000
how to do it. There's some anatomy in there, but

744
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:50,400
there's a lot of anecdotal in there as well. There's

745
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,519
a lot of stories from the pros themselves speaking factually,

746
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:58,239
which I think brings people right into the world that

747
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,039
I've been in. And we love the book because it

748
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,239
it really does do what we wanted it to do,

749
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:08,079
is give people a peek into the journey of the

750
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:10,880
greatest players, but what they could do just the same.

751
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,599
So hang the banners want to I you know, I'm

752
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:15,880
most proud of that body of work and all the

753
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,480
people that participated to make it happen. And I think

754
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:25,280
what you're saying, do it does really still resonate with

755
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,159
me today that I walk through there and go, man,

756
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:28,639
there's a lot of banners on that wall. It's a

757
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:31,360
lot of history and I'm grateful for every second home.

758
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 3: So that's awesome. That's awesome, And it's not the only book.

759
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: Now, Fix Your Body, Fix Your Swing was our flagship.

760
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:45,639
It started, you know, the whole process of asking yourself,

761
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,920
do you want to hold on to that information? You know,

762
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,039
at this kind of private world, it only deals with

763
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:53,440
the best players in the world. Do you want to

764
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:56,480
offer it up to people who want to consume it.

765
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,760
You know, read, people read, you know, maybe just as

766
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,960
much as they did ever before. But I think what

767
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:09,599
matters is the information you're giving was actually, you know,

768
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,920
taken from tour level professionals to the system at the

769
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,360
highest level. But it was given and written for people

770
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,840
to understand, consume, and apply at any level. And that's

771
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,639
the beauty of I think the books that we've done

772
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,199
is it gives people a system that if you do this,

773
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,360
then you do that to get this result and to

774
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,559
validate that. I think I always found out through my

775
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:35,280
greatest mentors and people that I wanted to learn from.

776
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,079
Go to the people that have done something really amazing

777
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,800
and ask yourself, do those things apply to me as

778
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,920
an individual or don't they Take what you want from

779
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,119
something you believe in, that you've invested time in, and

780
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:51,599
what doesn't work. Leave that out and apply to you

781
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:53,920
as an individual, what works and how can you create

782
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,920
a result? I think we did that well, not only

783
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,320
in the books that I've done, but the e books

784
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,840
which hunts come out every month with your new topic,

785
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,760
and people should go to our website and dive it

786
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,320
to these free books because it's twenty seven years of

787
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,400
information in these e books that are free, that are

788
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,559
easy reads. They're not, you know, novels, but they are

789
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:17,400
very on point to certain topics that people are always asking.

790
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,800
And that's another thing that I would love, you know,

791
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,760
your listeners to say, here's some free information that is

792
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:28,119
taken from the tour and born there and then created

793
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:30,840
a system that is easy to understand and a plot.

794
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:33,039
And I love that about the e books that we've

795
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:36,079
done and continue to do. So please give yourself an

796
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:37,840
opportunity to take a little bit of time as you're

797
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,760
doing all your research and before you make your choices.

798
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,960
The isle Enterer system, it's pretty good and I think

799
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,719
it offers a lot of simplicity with a lot of results.

800
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 3: So you've got a couple of books, You've got the

801
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,159
two books or is there more than two books because

802
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:01,400
we only mentioned too. Yeah, there's Mann Fixture Swinging.

803
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: The third is coming out, but I think we're only

804
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,440
going to do it in ebook form because what I'm

805
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,760
realizing is you reach more people through the ability of technology,

806
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,280
and uh, the book business is shrunk. So it's called

807
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,079
from the teens to the tour and it's coming out soon,

808
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:23,039
and it's basically a blueprint on the opportunity for teens

809
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:26,079
and parents which are very heavily involved in in the

810
00:45:26,159 --> 00:45:28,559
in the in the junior part of golf because they're

811
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:31,480
they're still making decisions for their children that are minors.

812
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,239
It is a very on point factual amount of information

813
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,159
that parents and young players can start to apply because

814
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,280
what we need to bring is awareness. We don't want

815
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,360
these kids to get hurt. We don't want to stunt

816
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,039
their growth, we don't want to confuse them because in

817
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:54,159
the developmental process, you can only process so many thoughts

818
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,280
before they become counterproductive. So the Teams of the Tour

819
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,960
is a roadmap, so to speak, on how to get

820
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:03,480
the right information and how do you apply it and

821
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,880
ultimately how does it affect you the body and the

822
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,159
game in a time of life where kids are growing

823
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:11,199
and developing.

824
00:46:11,559 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: And hopefully you don't want to get them to burn out.

825
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: No, you don't want the biggest thing burnout.

826
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because when you see you see young

827
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:21,159
kids and then the parents are on top of them

828
00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:24,400
the whole time, that's that's a formula for disaster.

829
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: To that part of it is addressed. So yeah, yeah,

830
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,679
that one's coming out, and we constantly do ebooks every

831
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,079
few weeks to to you know, month once and a half.

832
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:36,159
They're always out there, they're always available and hit a

833
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:40,719
great dot com Joety Golf and I and I'm always

834
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:46,159
proud of the opportunity that the career I've had working

835
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:48,599
with the greatest players has given me the opportunity to

836
00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:51,840
create a system, you know, with my peers and the

837
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,119
people that have been behind me H to help this

838
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,480
process and bring it to the world. So the app

839
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:02,719
is is something we're really excited about that will launch

840
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,039
itself sometime in December. And what I realize is not

841
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:08,880
everybody can get to Jupiter, Florida, and not everybody's going

842
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,039
to be able to buy a book. But I think

843
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:14,159
the app world has given us an opportunity to reach

844
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,320
people in places that we could never reach and give

845
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,920
them something that is not only affordable, but there's information

846
00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:29,760
that they actually apply and use to get themselves feeling

847
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,039
better as a human being. And I say, it's not

848
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:36,679
always about golf thread, It's about you move better, you

849
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,119
feel better, you live better, and then ultimately you're going

850
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:41,800
to play better. But we got to remember before we

851
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,960
become sports specific. You need to be species specific, and

852
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,000
as a human, what I can tell people is sometimes

853
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,320
to be better at golf, you got to ride a bicycle,

854
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,320
You got to swim in a pool. You can use

855
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,280
other sports that create a swing, like tennis or pickleball

856
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,119
that's picked up all over the world, or do things

857
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:05,280
that give you opportunity to get the body to challenge

858
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,079
itself in different arenas, because you'll ultimately be a better golfer.

859
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:12,280
Any app it's going to be such a great tool

860
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,960
because when it's finished, it will cover and check every box.

861
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,119
It will give you the ability to do assessments, It'll

862
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:23,760
give you the opportunity to dive into so many different

863
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,199
aspects of what people are looking for. It's covered everything,

864
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,559
and it's an amazing body of work that we're proud of,

865
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,159
and I look forward to people really giving themselves an

866
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:36,559
opportunity to explore it. You don't have to buy it,

867
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:38,800
you don't have to download it, but through the opportunity

868
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,800
for exploration, you explore things and you make decisions and choices.

869
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,440
And we respect people generally and want to know that

870
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,599
we can build their trust first and foremost and give

871
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:49,119
them a result that they want, and the app is

872
00:48:49,199 --> 00:48:51,159
going to is going to be something we're ultimately the

873
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:51,679
most proud of.

874
00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: So we're talking about December of twenty twenty four is

875
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,239
when the app is scheduled to be released.

876
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,559
Speaker 1: We're we're we're on right now to deliver it somewhere

877
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:02,480
mid to late December.

878
00:49:02,679 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the app and what we as

879
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:14,639
consumers and students will learn and gather from using the

880
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:15,960
app on a regular basis.

881
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,159
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing you're going to learn in

882
00:49:18,199 --> 00:49:20,679
the app is first and foremost people are like, we

883
00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:23,280
talked about this, what do I do? Where do I start?

884
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:27,360
So through the process of the evaluation that you'll get

885
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,199
in the app, it'll give you real time ability to

886
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,400
work through your goals. So you're going to start at

887
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,800
this point. If you've done these things in the assessment process,

888
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,400
you start here, and it directs you very clearly and

889
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,199
on point of where you should be in multiple levels.

890
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 4: It doesn't restrict we're not including like the best players

891
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,760
and not including people that have never done it before.

892
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: We've addressed everybody at every level, and there's something in

893
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,199
it for everyone, and it gives you specific programs. So

894
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,320
if you're already at a high level, you know, you

895
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,360
can dial into what's available at like the pro level,

896
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,960
and if you're as a beginner, it gives you opportunity

897
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,599
to understand how do I start, how do I start

898
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:17,159
to feel when I need my body to be specific

899
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:20,559
to golf. And in there, you know, there's calendars and

900
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:23,360
it and it checks your workouts and it'll track them,

901
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,360
and it gives you, you know, amazing amounts of tutorial

902
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,360
and coaches corner where you sit right inside like YOUREI

903
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,960
and I are doing and you're you're literally talking to

904
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,320
the best coaches in the world that are swing on

905
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,400
the swing side with us on the body side, coming

906
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,679
together to create that opportunity for people to really start

907
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:47,639
building the trust and why this app works. And we're

908
00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:50,880
grateful for that because I have access and my some

909
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,559
of my greatest friends and associates through the world of

910
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:56,519
professional golf have dove into this app and we have

911
00:50:56,599 --> 00:51:00,719
the greatest, uh, you know, a semblance of coaches that

912
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,119
have come together to go we need to burge the

913
00:51:03,159 --> 00:51:06,719
world to swing and the physical part of golf to

914
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,639
give people the ability to have the best result. This

915
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:10,639
app checks every box and even in it you get

916
00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:13,079
to hang your own banner, so you know, if you've

917
00:51:13,079 --> 00:51:15,039
done a great job, you get a digital banner. And

918
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:18,119
there's so many really fun things in there to do.

919
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,639
I love the ability for an app to create a

920
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,159
metric and this is where I started, this is where

921
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:27,079
I should be, and this is where I want to

922
00:51:27,199 --> 00:51:29,519
end up. And it does all of those things and

923
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:32,320
it does it in a concise way that isn't confusing,

924
00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:34,719
and it gives you the ability to scale from where

925
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,119
you start to where you want to go.

926
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 3: So if I wanted to do fifteen twenty minute workout

927
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,039
but I want someone to guide me through it is,

928
00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:47,719
there are there video workouts that I can do on

929
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:48,760
a daily basis.

930
00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: It's all in there. It's all done in that world

931
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:55,159
where you're working side by side with your coach and

932
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:59,039
you're actually on real time, and that's really the you know,

933
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,519
I think when I watch things, you know, you look

934
00:52:01,519 --> 00:52:03,320
at a book and there's a page and you go, yeah,

935
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,880
I see him doing that, but I don't know that

936
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,960
I know how to do that. Well. You're actually the

937
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,840
part that we did really well was we brought you

938
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,039
into a world where we really are working with you

939
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:13,760
one on one and that's the beauty of it because

940
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,559
you're watching these things and we're going through the movements.

941
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:19,760
And I always say that, you know, people are visual

942
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,440
learners more so than literal learners. Right, like the written word,

943
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,960
Sometimes it's harder to understand apply than the visual world

944
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:31,119
because there's a great difference when you can see it

945
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:34,360
and you're doing it alongside with with the creators and

946
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,599
the people that have done it at a very high

947
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,559
level that are efficient, and I think efficiency is key.

948
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,039
Application is key, Right, Can I do it efficiently? Does

949
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:44,840
it work for me? And then can I apply it

950
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,000
when I'm actually working on my golf swing?

951
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 3: Well, it's hit it Great dot com? Is that also

952
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,039
the name of the app? Hit It Great? Yes, it's great,

953
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,360
and we'll be looking forward to its available for iOS

954
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:59,079
or Android.

955
00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:02,199
Speaker 1: Yes, both, it'll be available on both platforms.

956
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 3: Great. And are there fees associated with it?

957
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: Uh? The fees are currently nineteen ninety nine a month,

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so you know, you break that down and it's five

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dollars a week something that you're willing to spend. We

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you know, we know that in the app world there

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can be things that are as easy as what some

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of the kids download. These games for a dollar ninety nine,

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or there are things that are much more expensive. I

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don't know, but we try to find a price point

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that right now that we're working on that averages twenty

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nineteen ninety nine. It's underd twenty dollars and it's about

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five bucks a week. So we thought we wanted to

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appeal to everybody in the world and not exclude anyone.

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Like golf can be expensive to just play it, you know,

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when you think about what's the average cost to go

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play around at golf. We kind of thought about that,

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and then we thought about what's the average cost of

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a lesson or you know, what's the average cost of information?

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And we felt like it was something that we had

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to do to maintain the integrity of the app, right

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because there are costs, but you want to be fair

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to people, you know, when you're asking them to spend

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their money, and we tried to be mindful of that

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as well.

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Speaker 3: So if I download the app, is do I need

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to pay to download the app? Is there any free

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element to it that I can just kind of explore

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it and get a sense of it, or is it.

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Speaker 1: You get the opportunity to explore it when you go,

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they don't restrict the exploration, but actually use it, you

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have to download it. Yeah, So the one thing is,

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I know there's a lot of free stuff out there,

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or we felt what was important was to give people

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enough information to go through it, see what they were

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going to get, give them enough information to make a decision,

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and then if you want to buy it, we would

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love to have you. And you know that does require

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you to make a purchase, so we don't want to

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be dishonest with people. So yes, that question is, you know,

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you have to buy it, but the good thing is

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before you do it, you have plenty of opportunity to

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explore it without having to download anything.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wish you a lot of luck with this.

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Clearly you've had a lot of luck in the business

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you've been doing already, and it sounds amazing and you've

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been really helpful today. I so appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Fret, thank you for having me. I appreciate everybody

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in your audience giving me the opportunity to come spend

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some time with you and your listeners. So thank you everybody.

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I hope that you enjoyed it as much as I did.

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Speaker 3: I sure did. This Friday on Golf Smarter Mulligan's will

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get our second conversation with Bob Foreman. It's totally random

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00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,239
and a pure coincidence that we're getting multiple episodes from

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00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,880
fitness experts right now. But listen. If you want consistency

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00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,519
and greater length off the tee and all your other clubs,

1011
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:40,039
then you really have to start with your body. If

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00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:42,079
you remember, I had to take a break from playing

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00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:44,119
for about six months at the end of last year

1014
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in the beginning of this one because of issues with

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my neck and arm, and I wish I would have

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00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,000
heard this episode then to keep my frustration in check. Well,

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this Friday's episode is called Dealing with and Overcoming Golf

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00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,559
Injuries with Bob Foreman.

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Speaker 5: Many of us are walking away with an imbalance in

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our forearms. You know, we tend to be stronger on

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the underside of our forearms because we're gripping things all day.

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So the muscles on the underside tend to be stronger

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than the muscles on the top part of our forearm,

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the extensors, which are responsible for kind of spreading out

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our fingers.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you say top part of the forearm, you

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mean the side of the back of your hand.

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Speaker 5: The back of yes, okay. And so because we have

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that in balance with the flexors being stronger than the extensors,

1030
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that can lead to issues in the wrist, elbow, and

1031
00:56:33,199 --> 00:56:35,880
even shoulder carpal tunnel. A lot of people have carpa

1032
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,519
tunnel because of that imbalance. And again it's something that

1033
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:41,039
a lot of people just don't realize that they have.

1034
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,400
It just develops again. We're gripping doorknobs, we're gripping chairs,

1035
00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:48,880
we're gripping, gripping, gripping, and we really don't do anything

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00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,800
to balance out that strength by providing a resistance to

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the extensors. I mean, how many times do you have

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00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,239
a resistance when you are going from a closed fist

1039
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,480
to an open finger position. Hardly ever, so you don't

1040
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really get a chance to work those extensor muscles as much.

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Speaker 3: Originally from December twenty twelve, episode three hundred and sixty

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has even more insights that I know you're going to

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00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,920
find interesting. I want to thank this week's Golf Smarter Ambassador,

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00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,400
Steve Ingram from Staffordshire, West Midlands, England, who is excited

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