WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:11.800 On on on. Welcome to the CEO pre show for 2 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:16.679 episode four eight zero four eight zero correct. Holy shit, 3 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:20.079 brought to you by the wonderful patrons at patreon dot 4 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:23.000 com slash CECO podcast, whether they like it or not, Yes, 5 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:25.519 all of the patrons that are in freaking magic on 6 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:26.839 Chicago right now. 7 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:29.719 Oh yeah, bullshit, we're not there. 8 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:30.480 Sucks. 9 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:32.320 Yeah, Chicago's terrible. 10 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:35.119 No, me not being in Chicago's terrible. 11 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:38.039 Oh remember the pizza. Yeah, remember all the beer? 12 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:38.399 Good? 13 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:41.320 Oh that was good too. Remember the Millort that was 14 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:44.560 Remember the Milord man. I wonder Ifrom Milart guys there. 15 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:45.560 You think he's definitely there. 16 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:47.679 Yeah, he said he'd be drinking alert for me today. 17 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:49.799 And then I said, good, have like ten, And then 18 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:51.759 everybody else in the CEO discorder was like. 19 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:52.439 Oh, I'll do it too. 20 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:54.159 Yeah, I hate no problem. I'll have a drink for 21 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:54.679 the boys. 22 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:58.880 Oh man, everybody's there. Hey frick well, it's good. It's 23 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:01.200 good to see the contingent there showing up for the nation. 24 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.799 I like that makes me happy. I hope everybody had fun. 25 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:08.319 I hate it. Wait, what is this opposite? 26 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:09.480 Is reversal town? 27 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:10.680 Brian and Rando? 28 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:14.200 Yes, speaking of a Reversal Town too. We just recorded 29 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:19.840 a Brando's box opening we did, and you didn't get 30 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:24.879 pounded because it was my box. You'll see. We definitely 31 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:28.239 thought that we got pounded, and I certainly am never 32 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:31.480 going to financially recover from the box. Though I did 33 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:35.200 get cards. I'm going to play bull crap. Yes, bull 34 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:36.040 crap I hated. 35 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:38.439 Yeah, I also hate it stupid. 36 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:40.040 I know I was doing an impression of you. I 37 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:42.719 like it, Oh, because I actually got good cards that 38 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:45.079 I'm going to play Index of Magic the Gathering Cards. 39 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:46.840 What yes, makes sense? 40 00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:50.560 Yeah, speaking of playing Magic the Gathering Cards, I got 41 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:52.519 a couple of things. Okay, okay, a couple of things. 42 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:53.159 A couple of things. 43 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:56.359 Sidewalk Slam season three. People have been asking me left, right, 44 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:59.879 and center February twenty eighth. We said it last week. 45 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:02.239 We're saying it again this week because you obviously don't 46 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:03.599 listen to Commander Cookout. 47 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:04.920 Podcast, February twenty eighth. 48 00:02:05.239 --> 00:02:08.560 Be there or be square then be there again? Yes, 49 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:10.520 give us two views. We would just very much appreciate. 50 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:13.560 Yes, Send your friends maybe a comment and a like 51 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:13.919 as well. 52 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:17.240 Share it to your downstairs neighbors that those hockey pucks 53 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:19.360 that you hang off the back of the TV, hire 54 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:21.240 it your way into there, and like share it onto 55 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:22.680 their TV so they have to watch it too. 56 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:24.879 Yes. Do you remember that one time we were playing 57 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:26.800 magic at your old house and we walked up to 58 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:30.840 the house and we saw your downstairs roommate smashing his boyfriend. Yes. 59 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:32.199 What does that have to do with this? 60 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:36.520 You said, downstairs roommate, And I thought of downstairs and roommate, 61 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:42.120 fair point, like under two separate circumstances. I thought downstairs 62 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:48.599 like they were smashing and downstairs roommate, separate independent clauses. 63 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:50.800 I see, Yes, that was a thing that was happening. 64 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:54.599 He is very embarrassed. Oh yeah, wow, it's only natural 65 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:57.439 like people are smashing, or that people would be embarrassed 66 00:02:57.439 --> 00:02:59.599 that they're upstairs housemates saw them smashing. 67 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:04.520 Yes, okay, that was the first thing. Okay, sidewalk slam, 68 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:07.599 get there and get smashed. Correct, yep. Second thing is 69 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:09.639 we're going to talk a little bit about brackets and 70 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:14.000 stuff on tomorrow's show again, but more more of my 71 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:16.479 notes are on game changers and the changes I made 72 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:19.599 to decks. Agreed, Have you made any changes? No? Oh 73 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.560 you did you talk about game Changers with anybody at 74 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:25.840 the local game store. Yes, I did. Oh yeah, what 75 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:26.280 did they say? 76 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:28.439 We talked lots about it where we are all of 77 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:32.599 the same sort of mind where the list might not be. 78 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:35.120 We're glad it's in beta, is what we're saying. We're 79 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:37.919 glad that it's in beta. And we had the experience 80 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:41.639 of this is a one and it was below and 81 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:43.080 it's not a one. 82 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:45.719 Yeah, and then it goes back to the intent versus 83 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:47.719 the law. Like we talked about last week. We actually 84 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:51.120 got a lot of feedback comments. Editor Joe sent me 85 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:53.599 a screenshot that his friends were watching the show, and 86 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:56.560 he said Ryan and Brando had probably the calmest, most 87 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:59.599 level headed and logical take out of any creator that 88 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:02.840 I saw. There was nothing inflammatory, there was nothing that 89 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:07.199 was belittling or anything. And he also said, and this 90 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:09.599 is my favorite part, they should be more popular, more 91 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:12.639 people should know who they are. I agree, Do I 92 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:16.680 ever agree? So if you're new to CCO Nation, of course, 93 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:18.399 like we say, share the show like it, do all 94 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:20.000 the YouTube stuff that you're supposed to do. 95 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:22.600 Yeah, or else, yes or else I was going to say, 96 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:24.199 or else, but you beat Yeah? 97 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:27.199 What hang on? Bizarro Landber those were cities that are 98 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:28.240 we going to those places? 99 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:31.399 Yeah, we're gonna talk about on the show tomorrow. Okay, yeah, yeah, 100 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.720 I got all the notes up for potential CEO experience 101 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:39.160 places and face to face games, weekends and tour stops 102 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:41.439 and stuff that we might plan to go to. 103 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:42.319 That's exciting. 104 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:45.920 Yeah, the Canadian Magic Tour. Lots of fun, Yes, lots 105 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:48.399 of fun. And it's it's kind of like our own thing. 106 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:50.319 Hey not you and ized thing? 107 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:52.839 Well, it kind of is. We're the popular guys on it. 108 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:55.519 Oh yeah, Oh shots for Jesus. 109 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:00.920 No, I don't see rogues passage have having us on 110 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:06.319 for a signal steal my name you Fox? 111 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:11.199 What's up? I want to see Brando versus Brando throwdown, 112 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:16.800 Rogue's passage versus CCO versus. I don't know whoever else 113 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:17.360 is in the pod. 114 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:18.920 I'll bring a one. 115 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:24.319 We're gonna talk about game changers in the list and 116 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:28.079 changes that we could potentially make to the list and 117 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:30.279 or our decks tomorrow. But I have something a little 118 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.560 bit closer to home for you specifically today. 119 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:34.319 Oh that's fun. 120 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:38.120 I love me, but do you No? 121 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:40.959 No, I try, I try. 122 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:44.199 That's good. That's good. That's good. Everybody is worthy of love, 123 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.040 even from yourself, even me. 124 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:47.959 Even if it's just from yourself. 125 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:53.879 We got our first look at mtg X Final Fantasy, 126 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:58.319 and you are rock hard I hear. 127 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:01.079 Yes, there's a ten thousand into seven. 128 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:09.079 Yes, yes, and lots. Yeah. So here's the thing, though, 129 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:12.120 we got our first look at legends. We got our 130 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:15.879 first look at some of the alternate print forms like 131 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.639 the booster or the box toppers or the full arts 132 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:24.279 or the showcases or whatever. Nice. We got just a 133 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:27.319 few random cards like uncommons and sagas and a couple 134 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:28.120 of different legends. 135 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.160 The sagas that are creatures are kind of neat. 136 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:34.399 I think that it's cool. Yeah, a saga elemental enchantment creature, 137 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:39.879 which is awesome, goes right along my enlightened and worldly 138 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:42.319 tutors that I may or may not be playing in decks. 139 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:48.920 Now that game changers exist, world not a game changer, Yeah. 140 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:50.879 I'm gonna use my worldly tutor totally not a game 141 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:53.079 changer to totally find my enchantments now. 142 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:57.319 Yeah, yeah, checks out. 143 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:02.720 That is gamers gaming the game. What we also got, conception, Yes, 144 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:06.639 what we also got was a list of MSRPs for 145 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:10.399 the various final Fantasy products. And that's what I was saying, 146 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:16.040 hits closer to home. Oh frin brand God, So I'll 147 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:21.040 read you some prices and tell me give me like okay, okay, 148 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:25.000 play Booster six ninety nine. Yeah, it's kind of like 149 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:25.720 what they cost. 150 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:28.360 Remember these are United States Freedom dollars. That's what ten 151 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:28.879 bucks here? 152 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:31.360 Oh oh yeah this Joe. 153 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:34.720 Oh yeah, yeah yeah. So let's keep let's let's let's 154 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:35.279 keep going here. 155 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:37.519 Okay. If I was going to say six ninety nine 156 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:38.199 for a play. 157 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:40.759 Booster, I'd be like, good, that's okay. 158 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:43.560 If I lived in the Land of the Free, yes, okay, 159 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:47.560 collector Booster instead of like twenty nine to thirty two 160 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:49.800 dollars thirty seven ninety. 161 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:53.199 Nine, that's approximately forty five dollars, okay. 162 00:07:53.480 --> 00:07:57.160 And if we opened up like some foils and some 163 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.439 cool alternate art printings, we could maybe ex back to 164 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:04.519 over the course of an entire Collector Booster box, maybe 165 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:09.959 break even on retail value, not trade in value, retail. 166 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:15.399 Value hypothetically speaking, sure, and especially if the closest analog 167 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:17.439 and this is what's going to become important as we 168 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:18.920 kind of explore this set more. 169 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:21.360 Our closest analog is the Lord of the Ring set, 170 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:25.839 and we're about eighteen months post that release, and card 171 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:28.920 prices from about the twelve month till now period of 172 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:34.320 time have absolutely exploded, So I would expect sealed product 173 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:38.120 for this eighteen months post release to also explode. Here's 174 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:42.720 some MTG finance for everybody, but also individual card prices 175 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:46.600 if you pre order at these lower prices to actually 176 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:51.559 in the long run make you like financially. 177 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.600 On, you will never recover. 178 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:56.879 You don't think no, I think that you will. 179 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:59.480 This is a standard set, okay, and it's going to 180 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:01.240 be legal for three years, so you're not going to 181 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:03.440 see the explosion of prices because the cards are going 182 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:06.080 to be in circulation for three years old and nobody's 183 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:08.480 gonna want to sit on a fucking ufie. Is it 184 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:12.320 like three years until she's worth five bucks instead of none? 185 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:15.639 Is it one print run like a lot of the 186 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.120 Lord of the Rings stuff, or is it multiple print runs? 187 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:18.960 Do we know that yet? 188 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:21.480 I we don't know that yet. If you, if I 189 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:23.799 had to wager a guess or venture a guess, I 190 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:26.200 would say that the collector runs are probably gonna be 191 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:28.519 one one of yeah, and then you're just gonna be 192 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:30.279 able to get boxes for the rest of the time, 193 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:35.120 and they'll probably do another run of of playlets much 194 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:37.159 in the same way that they did with Loord of 195 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.159 the Rings with the Holiday Boosters. Oh, I bet you 196 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:41.679 they'll they'll do that again because that was a huge 197 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:44.000 excitement generator for them. 198 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.639 And the excitement that they'll generate now is to the 199 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:50.799 tune of like twenty two hundred dollars sealed booster packs, 200 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:53.679 like like two hundred dollars booster packs. That's crazy, and 201 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:57.039 they're only about a year old or fourteen months old 202 00:09:57.799 --> 00:10:01.639 for the collector Holiday edition boosters specifically. 203 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:04.120 Not that Watsie sees any of that. That's all aftermarket stuff. 204 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:06.480 Yes, and we have to remember that. And that's why 205 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:09.840 I say, if you buy at this MSRP, if there's 206 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:13.440 no LGS tax on this, which there will be, there 207 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:15.200 might be a little bit, and you might avoid it 208 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:18.519 if you do pre order rights as sometimes you do, 209 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:23.080 and over the course of a year, like if you're 210 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:25.679 trying to collect, or if you collect sealed product, or 211 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:27.440 even if you don't, and you look at some of 212 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:29.399 the prices. Again to the Lord of the Rings stuff, 213 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:34.799 the showcase scrolls, the holiday edition stuff, the Hildebrandt stuff. 214 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:37.360 Some of that stuff has exploded in price. And if 215 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.360 I had maybe like two of them, one was in 216 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:40.960 a deck, I don't play the deck anymore and I 217 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:44.639 offloaded it. Right. Maybe I paid six bucks for a 218 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:47.080 booster pack, but there was one hundred dollars card in 219 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:47.879 there a year later. 220 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:51.159 If that, if those exist in this set, they probably 221 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:51.879 will be you never know. 222 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:55.879 Yes, okay, next one Commander deck seventy bucks. 223 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:56.919 That's one hundred dollars. 224 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:02.279 Yes, And we've seen hundred dollars pre cons before multiple times. 225 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:04.320 At this point, those were the ones where you had 226 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:06.639 the the good one was one hundred bucks and the 227 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:11.519 rest of them were sixty. So that was the LGS tax. 228 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:14.039 That was the Fiendish markup so that people could get 229 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:15.279 the deck that they wanted. 230 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:17.200 Or like what we saw in Eighth or Drift, where 231 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.879 everybody wants one and nobody wanted the other. So let's 232 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:23.360 sell them as a two pack only for two hundred dollars, 233 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.840 splitting the cost of like averaging them out to this 234 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:29.840 is what they both cost. So maybe they'll see that again. 235 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:32.799 I think we're getting four or five precons there's four 236 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:33.960 four precons. 237 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:38.360 There's a Final Fantasy's six, seven, ten, and I think 238 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:41.080 fourteen are represented in. 239 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:43.639 I'm totally gonna pretend I know what that means for 240 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:47.320 the rest of my life. 241 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:50.000 Sure numbered entries to get start that hard. 242 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:54.159 Come on, man, Yeah, but there's like seven Final Fantasy sevens, 243 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:56.480 Like which one? Or are they all the same? They're 244 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:59.240 all the same, in which case why they all like. 245 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:07.159 Oh yeah, yeah, okay, it all makes sense. 246 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.279 Commanders or no, sorry, collectors. Addition, Commander Deck one hundred 247 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:13.799 and fifty, so this would be an all foil version. 248 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.120 That would be your two hundred dollars gimmick. Those will 249 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:19.120 probably be the same deal as the Warhammer forty K. 250 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:20.200 One Surge foil ones. 251 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:25.039 I'm hoping that they're more easily attained than the forty 252 00:12:25.080 --> 00:12:28.480 two ones. Urlgs actually did really well and they got 253 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:33.759 a bunch of the collectors of the Modern Horizons Commander decks. 254 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:37.519 Still weird saying the modern set Commander decks, But I'm 255 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:40.879 hoping that these follow that formula a little more where 256 00:12:40.919 --> 00:12:43.840 you can you can actually attain them and. 257 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:47.879 Look at again, look at the suitable kind of analogs 258 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:51.399 that we have. Warhammer forty K was the first version 259 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.320 of that kind of product and only came out in 260 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:58.639 Commander decks, compared to Modern Horizons was a full set 261 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:02.440 with boosters and collector and Commander pre cons and everything. Yep, right, 262 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:06.440 So I think this especially because a standard set will 263 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:07.080 follow suit. 264 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:07.840 Just hoping. 265 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:12.120 I'll also say that the collector addition maybe with some 266 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:19.519 unique foiling process. The Commander pre con only singles in 267 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:22.279 that foiling process. Look out for the price dings on 268 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:22.960 those cards. 269 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:27.159 Well, if you look at the Modern Horizons ones as 270 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:29.120 a indicator, not so much. 271 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:32.320 No, yeah, look at the Warhammer forty k ones. Tell 272 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:34.840 me what a foiled Geyerson Starnsworth. 273 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:36.960 Well those were Those are differences are harder to get. Yes, 274 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:39.759 front Initially we could actually go to our lgs today 275 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:43.240 and buy a Modern Horizon three collector version of one 276 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:45.879 of the decks. Yes, not the el Drasy one or 277 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:47.720 the GoIF one, but the other two. 278 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:50.559 We can Funny that everybody said that was the worst one. 279 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:53.840 It's the one that we can't get Anyways. I really 280 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:59.240 think that somewhere between like scarcity and price hiking of 281 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:05.720 the forty K Surge foil decks and the a what 282 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:08.120 do we call it modern horizons? Madi ho ho ho 283 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:10.519 mady ho ho ho. Three decks is where we'll be 284 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:14.600 and really for the sealed product that isn't command or 285 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:17.480 pre cons We're gonna get there somewhere between where they're 286 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:21.679 at now and where Lord of the Rings Holiday Collector's 287 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:24.840 stuff is at now. That's that's where this will end. 288 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:28.120 Hold onto your butts, is what Ryan's saying. Yes, and 289 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:30.799 it's only going it was only getting more exciting from here. 290 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.279 And I'm never one to say like get in now, 291 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.919 you're gonna miss the boat, like like we're not a 292 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:39.039 finance podcast. Don't buy the dip all the shit, right, 293 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:44.399 But if other things are kind of an indicator, I 294 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:48.279 think that these prices aren't that outrageous, but they will 295 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:53.639 get that way. Yes, Now, Assassin's creed Ah doesn't follow 296 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:55.320 that trend line, no, right. 297 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:59.639 Doctor who needed a doctor who or followed follow kind 298 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:01.759 of kind of but follow it was a suit again, 299 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:04.679 very limited in where you could get it. When you 300 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:07.960 could get it. I still barely ever see it. We're 301 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:10.080 at events, you just don't see it anywhere. Right, Yeah, 302 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:12.600 so scarcity might play a role in that one as well. 303 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:16.360 Yeah, Next one here, and scarcity, I don't think because 304 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:18.879 this is a standard product won't be an issue. Shouldn't 305 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:23.759 be an issue at least on Boosters, at least on boosterses. Okay, 306 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:27.720 next one bundle seventy bucks. That's a hundred bucks. I 307 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:30.440 don't think that that's outrageous. I think a regular bundle 308 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:34.200 for us in Canada is like anywhere between seventy five 309 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:36.639 and ninety dollars. Yeah, and this one will be one 310 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:40.759 hundred to one hundred and five. Yeah, like that's more money. 311 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:44.879 Of course it is, but it's like, I don't think 312 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:45.799 that that's outrageous. 313 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:47.600 Get your your jumbo cactar. 314 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:50.759 And here's the thing. A gift bundle is that like 315 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:53.039 a is that like a finish line bundle or an 316 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:54.039 all will be bundle? 317 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:54.720 Correct? 318 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:57.399 The gift bundle only eighty nine bucks. 319 00:15:57.440 --> 00:15:58.639 That's one hundred and twenty bucks. 320 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:00.840 That's what they was called. That's what they cost. Anyway. 321 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.799 The bundless a good deal. The bundles and stuff are 322 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.720 actually quite reasonable, strangely reasonable. 323 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:09.960 You're gonna get your final fantasy art lands in the bundles. 324 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:12.200 You're gonna get your final fantasy dice. For people who 325 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:14.799 care about that you're gonna get your final fantasy deck 326 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:16.919 box for people who care about that, like, this might 327 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:19.840 be the way to go bundles. I think so. 328 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:23.799 Actually, I was talking with the LGS guy, uh yesterday, 329 00:16:23.799 --> 00:16:25.720 we'll just say it was yesterday to keep things current, 330 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:27.879 and he said that what a couple of people did 331 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.879 with a thro drift was instead of buying boxes, they 332 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:36.480 bought a uh not bundleworth the starter. 333 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:39.159 Gimmicks pre release kids. 334 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:42.559 He bought a number of pre release kits equal to 335 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:44.840 what it would cost for a box, and you ended 336 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.600 up with getting two extra packs plus all those like 337 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:49.240 guaranteed foil wraars. 338 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:53.320 Oh, you get the same number of packs because there's 339 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:57.360 six six packs, get two more. Oh, there you go, 340 00:16:57.559 --> 00:16:59.639 and finally we get a starter kit. I'm not a 341 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:01.080 hundred percent sure what that means. 342 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:03.559 I think that's the when I look at like the 343 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:05.680 product page where has like the picture of all of them, 344 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:09.440 there's like a cloud versus sepher off starter deck. 345 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:11.960 Oh yes, yeah, this is like the Airgorn and Arwin 346 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:16.839 web versus surn the lidless eye. Yeah, that's what those are. 347 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:20.640 And yeah, we'll watch for the cards in there because 348 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:23.000 sour on the Lidless Eye is a thirty dollars card 349 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:27.599 and these bundles used to be nineteen dollars, so it's like, right, 350 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:30.640 I open up a foil sur on lidless Oh no, 351 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.680 a widescreen salar on lidless Eye in my collector box. 352 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:38.799 Neat money, yea, and I kill people with it because 353 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:44.279 I'm the bad guy. Yeah so, man, some some things now. 354 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:47.960 Prices aside. I'm super pumped for this set. I do. 355 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:51.000 I'm gonna make my I'm gonna say it now so 356 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:52.799 I can get out of the way. I'm a little 357 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:56.519 sad that the Final Fantasy six themed Commander deck is 358 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:59.119 Mardo colors because I don't really like to play Mardo 359 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:02.119 and I'm gonna have to because that's the one that 360 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:04.000 I want. That's the one that they printed and said 361 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:06.839 we can do whatever we want and Branda will buy it, 362 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:07.759 and they're right. 363 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.440 And you're a freaking nerd. 364 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:13.599 I'm a nerd and they got me. They got me. 365 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:17.279 You love Final Fantasy and you love that character. I 366 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:19.559 know because I painted or on a land for you 367 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:22.039 one time. And you're like, I'm gonna play this deck 368 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:23.599 even though I don't like it, and I think it 369 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:25.839 costs too much, but I don't care because I'm financially 370 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:29.480 irresponsible because I'm addicted to cardboard crack. That's a fucking 371 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:30.480 nerd exactly. 372 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:33.000 So they figured out the formula. They figured out the formula. 373 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:37.359 At least me spend some money, damn it. 374 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:43.720 Well, I just have to get some money money, yes, yes, yes, yes, 375 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:44.680 very cool. 376 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:48.519 Well hey listen, ah, when you look at the price 377 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:52.880 of a Collector booster and it's gonna be five hundred dollars, 378 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:55.559 I don't like that. No, But when I look at 379 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:58.079 a gift bundle or a regular bundle and say, hey, 380 00:18:58.079 --> 00:19:01.000 this is an okay amount of mad product to get 381 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:02.559 and buy, and I get a box to bring to 382 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:04.680 the LGS with my decks in it, because I still 383 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:07.599 do that because I'm a fucking nerd. For like eighty 384 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:11.720 or a hundred bucks, I'm like, hey, that's not that bad. Yeah, 385 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:14.880 if it's just about opening sheer number of packs too. 386 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:15.759 You get like. 387 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:18.319 Eight in a bundle and you get only twelve in 388 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:19.680 a collector Yeah. 389 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:21.400 Right. So it's like, I don't know. 390 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:24.039 But think of the excitement, I know, think of the 391 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:28.200 exciting porderless tawnberry kink. Baby, you don't know what that is, 392 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:29.359 but it's gonna be so cool. 393 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:31.880 Also, I didn't even know Cactarist from Final Fantasy. 394 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:33.240 Oh you fucking got I know. 395 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:36.119 I'm such a loser man, you suck man. 396 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:38.319 The only thing that could have made that card more 397 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:41.720 flavorfuly awesome is if he had that thing where it 398 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:44.720 can't be blocked by creatures, felt flying or something. If 399 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.680 you had some kind of evasion too, because kactars very 400 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:51.559 rare to find, very difficult to physically hit with your sword. 401 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:55.039