Speaker 1: Thirty and the Boys game will be played at nine
Speaker 1: pm Eastern on est p N two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that means that the women are party already started,
Speaker 2: right and then the men. The men are coming after it.
Speaker 2: And there might be a chance with the kid from uh
Speaker 2: that might commit berce mm hmm from the you know, Arizona.
Speaker 3: He has an Arizona. It might be tonight, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Cowboys owner Jerry Jones says Michael Parsons long term deal
Speaker 1: is close to completion.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's no surprise. He's like their best player or something.
Speaker 4: I'm sure they want to lock him up forever.
Speaker 3: They just got to be better with whomever. Just be better.
Speaker 5: God.
Speaker 1: Missouri quarterback Drew Pine enters transfer portal as a graduate student.
Speaker 3: Isn't he Isn't this like the third or fourth school
Speaker 3: for him?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Who?
Speaker 3: He just mentioned. Drew Pine.
Speaker 1: And an NBA discipline for Piston's timbrel scuffle. Multiple players
Speaker 1: have been suspended.
Speaker 3: I saw that. Did you see that fight? I did
Speaker 3: not the headline.
Speaker 2: No, it was not like the brawl and the brawl
Speaker 2: back the Palace in the Palace, the mouse in the
Speaker 2: palace in the Palace.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, Drew Pine. Yeah, Missouri Notre Dame in ASU.
Speaker 4: So now he's going to go to a Ford school.
Speaker 3: Good luck with that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Veteran defensive lineman Kalais Campbell agrees to a one year
Speaker 1: deal with the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 3: Eighteen seasons. That's a long time to be playing football.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: He had some good years in his In his first
Speaker 4: go round with the Cardinals, he was one of their
Speaker 4: top defensive defensive players and then he went off and
Speaker 4: made a lot of money. I'm sure now he's going
Speaker 4: to finish up one more year seeing if there's anything else.
Speaker 2: No, I have the top five Wooden Award finalists, Broom obviously, Flag,
Speaker 2: the Kids from the Kid from Florida, The Guard Clayton,
Speaker 2: Walter Clayton, Who's fantastic them as Mark Sears and produced
Speaker 2: Braden Smith. Did you ever read the story? Were you
Speaker 2: with me when I had the Girl from the Woman
Speaker 2: from the Athletic marin you?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Michelle from the Athletic?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2: She She did a feature on Caleb right before this
Speaker 2: tournament start. It was pretty good and Caleb opened up
Speaker 2: just you know how tough it's been with all the
Speaker 2: fan negativity, his mom chimed him chimed in, and not
Speaker 2: just here at North Carolina and his career how it was.
Speaker 2: He had a fantastic career if you look back, and
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be perfect, right, I mean, who has
Speaker 2: a perfect career besides a guy named Flag although he's
Speaker 2: only had one year on year, But for love, I
Speaker 2: don't know, if I were him, I'd probably labeled like
Speaker 2: an eighty eighty five fantastic moments and then not so
Speaker 2: fantastic moments.
Speaker 3: But isn't that about life?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean that's basically how we expected him when we
Speaker 4: got him here, to sort of see what, well, what
Speaker 4: are we getting? And I think we kind of got
Speaker 4: the mercurial player that a lot of people expected. And
Speaker 4: obviously the end of his career without that final victory
Speaker 4: was pretty spectacular. He carried the team basically the last
Speaker 4: few weeks of the season, which was what everybody had
Speaker 4: hoped for.
Speaker 3: I didn't that changed his dynamic. I think it did.
Speaker 4: And from the stuff I was reading too, there was
Speaker 4: a lot of nice things said by his teammates.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah afterwards.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I didn't see those because yeah, they
Speaker 2: were pretty they were very touching and very enlightening because
Speaker 2: even Viisar who came in, let me say something. I
Speaker 2: want to add to what he's been a great teammate.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's nice. Nice to make him feel good. And
Speaker 4: you didn't want to go out with a sour taste.
Speaker 4: I mean, he was a lot, a lot was expected
Speaker 4: of him. Again, as you're bringing in a bunch of
Speaker 4: new players over these last two years, and you're bringing
Speaker 4: a steady guy like him, well maybe not steady, but
Speaker 4: somebody that hope would be, you know, a leader, right
Speaker 4: he You know, he's like any other player. I mean,
Speaker 4: when he gets to the pros, it's gonna be the
Speaker 4: same way I would think, you know, if you can
Speaker 4: shoot say thirty to forty from three, And I don't know.
Speaker 3: If he'll make it, and I don't know.
Speaker 2: Think no, he's projected as a late second rounder unless
Speaker 2: he really balls out somehow in the summer league and whatever,
Speaker 2: because he already has this label and he's a fifth
Speaker 2: year guy. Yeah, you know it is if you're older,
Speaker 2: it's tough, true. You know, he's the fifth year guy.
Speaker 2: He's inconsistent.
Speaker 3: Uh, he needed to.
Speaker 2: Get better and he did I think he did get
Speaker 2: better from last year to this year. And last year
Speaker 2: he was the first team you know, I'll pack to
Speaker 2: I'll pack to it. But he was also on All American.
Speaker 2: He was not that this year because of inconsistency. He
Speaker 2: was definitely inconsistent. But yeah, I mean, the.
Speaker 4: Last memories we're going to have of him with the
Speaker 4: U of Air, we're gonna be pretty strong. I think
Speaker 4: that's that's that's good for him. Hopefully he'll you know,
Speaker 4: remember remember that more than some of the inconsistencies of
Speaker 4: this last year. But the team recovered they did, you know,
Speaker 4: they got to this, you know, to the sweet sixteen,
Speaker 4: which I think everybody would would like to get to.
Speaker 3: But how many.
Speaker 2: If we went to early with commercials, oh, probably only
Speaker 2: have two, right, two spots left if that? If that, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: so I don't want to go to that.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: We'll just continue to talk until we go to the
Speaker 2: regular regular time. Right about seven eight minutes, you have
Speaker 2: Chuck Culpiper here coming in from the Washington Post. Uh
Speaker 2: in about fifteen minutes, what else, No.
Speaker 4: I'm I think we're kind of waiting to see about
Speaker 4: the was it buris is whether or not he's gonna
Speaker 4: he's gonna commit tonight. That would be nice to have
Speaker 4: that lined up with a couple other commitments so far.
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people are are hoping
Speaker 2: or signaling or whatever channeling because of these guys leaving.
Speaker 2: That would indicate something. You know, what do you call
Speaker 2: that the tea leaves or whatever?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know we'll see butterfly effect.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, or the doves. You least released the doves.
Speaker 2: That's good news, the bad news, blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, that's you think the players will be
Speaker 4: talking about this amongst themselves. Hey, are you gonna day?
Speaker 4: Is this guy going to stay? Is am I going
Speaker 4: to get a chance if I come in? Am I
Speaker 4: going to sit on the bench? You know what? They
Speaker 4: all want to come in and play. And Carter Bryant, sureman,
Speaker 4: and he wanted to play. He didn't play nearly the minutes.
Speaker 4: I thought, I bet he thought he was going to
Speaker 4: get it. Sure, but sure you know that does he stay?
Speaker 4: Does he stick around? And you know see how they
Speaker 4: two goes.
Speaker 2: You probably didn't hear this commercial, this commercial, this press
Speaker 2: conference question from the same woman, Michelle uh forget her
Speaker 2: last name, who asked Tommy at the end of the
Speaker 2: press conference before they played Duke. I think it was
Speaker 2: that there was some talk among probably just you me,
Speaker 2: just people up and up in the Seattle talking about
Speaker 2: Henry and then the minutes he got that he that
Speaker 2: Sean Sean that Tommy would have or was purposely hiding
Speaker 2: him from from other coach, you know, other to being poached,
Speaker 2: that he didn't play him as often because he didn't
Speaker 2: want him to go to leave. And he he got
Speaker 2: offended by the question, obviously, and it came up again
Speaker 2: on a in a in a thread on Twitter, and
Speaker 2: I'm thinking they're still talking about this and he still left,
Speaker 2: not that he's still left. I don't think that was
Speaker 2: a reason, because he played a lot, and he played,
Speaker 2: They depended on him, you know, and and and dout
Speaker 2: trouble caused issues and and Tommy wouldn't I don't think
Speaker 2: why what would be the reason play him ten minutes
Speaker 2: twenty minutes because I want you to stay another year.
Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, there was there was that controversy too about
Speaker 4: about a waka not playing. Remember there was Ye, Yeah,
Speaker 4: he got injured a little bit or whatever. He never
Speaker 4: was explained, Yeah.
Speaker 3: And he never came back.
Speaker 4: He came back in like in like the last couple
Speaker 4: of minutes of the game, after sitting out like five
Speaker 4: or six minutes.
Speaker 2: That question was asked in fact by by colleague David Kelly,
Speaker 2: and Tommy didn't go there.
Speaker 3: But it's all long ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all old news now. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: they got to be looking forward to what's next. And
Speaker 4: I don't know how those coaches do it. I don't
Speaker 4: know they're all so they've got to have some wild
Speaker 4: spreadsheet going with all these guys leaving, and not that.
Speaker 2: You worked on roofs, not that you worked on roofs,
Speaker 2: or you worked on the roof not that you were
Speaker 2: a roofer, not that you worked on roofs, not you
Speaker 2: worked at the railroad. I'm prefacing by my next question
Speaker 2: is are you glad you're out of the business given
Speaker 2: what we have to see? Do you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: And not that it affects you, but you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like sour.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like, I mean, you had there was
Speaker 4: always hope for the future. It seemed like when you
Speaker 4: knew the guys were going to stick around for like
Speaker 4: three or four years. Hey, this guy's pretty decent as
Speaker 4: a freshman, was going to be sophomore because Lude always
Speaker 4: used to talk about the improvement between their freshmen and
Speaker 4: sophomore years was the biggest they would ever have. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that was one of his things. I always remember him saying.
Speaker 4: And now we don't even get to see that in
Speaker 4: a lot of cases. Right, So you know, like what
Speaker 4: does the Carter Brian does he think he's good enough
Speaker 4: to be a top fifteen pick or twenty pick? Is
Speaker 4: that worth it now?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And what is the difference between a twenty pick and
Speaker 2: a top seven pick next year?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: If that happens, Yeah.
Speaker 4: A lot of money and time, I mean, big thing.
Speaker 4: These guys always talk about starting their clock, getting out
Speaker 4: into the NBA contract world because what they get. These
Speaker 4: can't really get their big contract for their third till
Speaker 4: their third year.
Speaker 2: Dave, the clock starts now because they're getting paid a
Speaker 2: ton of that's true too.
Speaker 3: There are a ton of money. And if it's if it's
Speaker 3: true that you're.
Speaker 2: Getting one point three to two point whatever, guess what
Speaker 2: those kids are getting paid that or or or a
Speaker 2: big nice fraction of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're being your neighbors because they're buying houses
Speaker 2: right next to you, not next to me.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean up the
Speaker 3: road from horror offices, up the hills.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's different. I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't know if I miss you know, the business because
Speaker 4: of that, but it's definitely something you have to think about.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: You just don't know what your team's going to look like,
Speaker 4: or who's who's going to play quarterback?
Speaker 3: Is he going to stick around?
Speaker 4: Is there going to be a new you know, it's
Speaker 4: all a changing attitude about uh well, future plans.
Speaker 2: Just and this is the the news cycle, right. So
Speaker 2: they finished their season Thursday, five days ago whatever it was.
Speaker 2: And then if you're a reporter or you're a TV
Speaker 2: guy and said, okay, let's look at the roster what
Speaker 2: they're gonna do. When you do your story of what's
Speaker 2: coming back and what they're going to do next year,
Speaker 2: that changes the day later exactly, and then it changes
Speaker 2: the day later after that, because that's how fluid it is.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, in your business you can you can
Speaker 4: turn around tonight and write that story. But in TV
Speaker 4: it's not going to get on the air for another
Speaker 4: you know day. Sometimes you know, there could be a
Speaker 4: whole lot. I guess you could put it online, but
Speaker 4: you're right, the media, Uh what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 4: Just releasing the information has changed where boom, you see it,
Speaker 4: you see it on Twitter, you see it on the
Speaker 4: local websites, and then you have to kind of, you know.
Speaker 3: Rewrite it, rewrite it yourself, rewrite it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get your your angle to the story right.
Speaker 2: And that's just all speculation too, because you don't really
Speaker 2: have access to anybody to tell you what's going on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if a guy, like, if they commit,
Speaker 4: I mean, what have they are they signing anything?
Speaker 7: Not?
Speaker 2: When they commit, they could that could change their mind
Speaker 2: at any moment. Okay, have the sign. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: when the signing period is, but you have the sign,
Speaker 2: and then who knows. Nowadays you can sue and get
Speaker 2: out of stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's so many things involved. I mean, besides.
Speaker 4: Besides that decision, but then the academic decision. And you
Speaker 4: know what am I doing in school? Am I really
Speaker 4: going to school? Am I working on a major? We
Speaker 4: talked about that these guys ever, you know they're really
Speaker 4: thinking about academics at all. And I always used to
Speaker 4: kind of be the you know, the backbone to everything
Speaker 4: was yeah, you know they still are working towards their degree. Well, yeah,
Speaker 4: how do you do that when you're transferring four times
Speaker 4: and four years?
Speaker 2: We talked about that, because the credits don't transfer and
Speaker 2: by that time you're you're probably already making two two
Speaker 2: and a half million dollars over life for your country.
Speaker 4: You don't hear anything much more about guys being academically
Speaker 4: ineligible anymore.
Speaker 3: You really don't.
Speaker 4: That was always hmm, whatever happened to that guy? He
Speaker 4: doesn't come back for the second semester. That was the story.
Speaker 4: Every year there'd be a question whether or not the
Speaker 4: roster will be intact, let alone in the summer.
Speaker 3: It was the winter. Have to worry about guys with that.
Speaker 3: Well here's another thing. I don't you subscribe to the Athletic.
Speaker 8: So I do.
Speaker 2: And they had a nice little story and I didn't
Speaker 2: read all of it, and I'm sure it's long. The
Speaker 2: guys in the final four. So Kelvin was in trouble
Speaker 2: right a few years back, making too many calls in Indiana, YadA, YadA,
Speaker 2: and then there's probably more to it. Bruce Pearl with
Speaker 2: his situation and he was in the Sean kind of
Speaker 2: that time the time frame with a wiretap two and
Speaker 2: there was a third one, uh not Florida. Guy Golden
Speaker 2: was in trouble in San Francisco. Something was there, something
Speaker 2: happened there, There's something, there's there's there was like three
Speaker 2: or four they highlighted and those things are no longer
Speaker 2: an issue. They're just it's like those rules are so antiquated,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and now you kind of almost can
Speaker 2: do whatever you want with within reason.
Speaker 3: The Golden one was a little bit rough. I mean,
Speaker 3: look at that story.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to say anything wrong here,
Speaker 4: but some things, well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in trouble here at Florida before the season started
Speaker 3: with the co Eds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, maybe that's when I'm with the co Eds
Speaker 2: and San Francisco Stocky No, well maybe, but it was
Speaker 2: stalking whatever.
Speaker 3: But he got cleared from that from yeah.
Speaker 4: So and the Bruce Pearl that goes way back because
Speaker 4: he's done a lot of years when he was.
Speaker 2: An assistant, he's had he's had it a few times.
Speaker 2: But he was part of the Shawn Miller thing too,
Speaker 2: where they had his his check person, check.
Speaker 3: Person was his assistant. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: So, and I want to talk about another guy who
Speaker 4: went to TV and really rehabilitated himself for a couple
Speaker 4: of years and then he came back to and he's
Speaker 4: got that personality.
Speaker 3: He's great on television. Yeah, let's take a break. Let's
Speaker 3: take a break and see if we can get ahold
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to My the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, and today with me is
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Speaker 5: Steve? Hi?
Speaker 16: Dave doing fine?
Speaker 2: We're doing great here. Thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 2: How how has this road been for you to the
Speaker 2: final four?
Speaker 5: You mean where and so on?
Speaker 3: How has it been? I'm sure you've been busy.
Speaker 5: Ah, Let's see Providence and then and then Newark. Sorry,
Speaker 5: I uh, I saw some things. Did you see?
Speaker 3: Did you? Were you able to see Arizona?
Speaker 5: Duke? I was, I was right there.
Speaker 3: What were your impressions? What were your impressions of the game?
Speaker 5: I thought Arizona looked very good. But Duke looks? What
Speaker 5: does Duke look? How would we put it? I hate
Speaker 5: when people say, oh, one of the greatest games ever,
Speaker 5: you know, stuff like that. So but boy does it
Speaker 5: look It's it's orgeous basketball they're playing, and it's it's
Speaker 5: just a I mean, I guess when the king hands
Speaker 5: like Skiszewski hang hands over the program to somebody else,
Speaker 5: even someone who's been an understudy for a long time,
Speaker 5: you know, people wonder and natural to wonder. But my goodness,
Speaker 5: this looks like, as you know, for as full of
Speaker 5: stars as it is, as as just well drilled and
Speaker 5: well put together a team as you as you're likely
Speaker 5: to find in many a march.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's basically got what three first round
Speaker 4: picks in his starting lineup. I mean, it's quite the
Speaker 4: talent and quite the talent going to San Antonio this weekend.
Speaker 4: And I know you wrote about it, just you know,
Speaker 4: these are the titans of basketball?
Speaker 15: Is this is this?
Speaker 4: What we should be expecting, you know, moving forward, that
Speaker 4: these top teams are going to keep getting rich and rich.
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, I don't think so. I think I think
Speaker 5: we can expect, well, what I expect. It might be wrong,
Speaker 5: but what I expect is like a hodgepodge. Like two
Speaker 5: years ago we had a four or five of five
Speaker 5: and a nine. You know, it was the first year
Speaker 5: without any top three seeds in the final four. And
Speaker 5: now that we have this, you know, the intensifying of
Speaker 5: the nil and transfer portal and so on, we have
Speaker 5: four ones. But something Rick Patino said when we were
Speaker 5: in Providence kind of made me think about how, you know,
Speaker 5: he said that when you play a thirteen seed nowadays,
Speaker 5: or in his case he was playing a fifteen seed,
Speaker 5: but these lower seeds have never been closer in caliber
Speaker 5: to the higher seeds. And I think that's because the
Speaker 5: transfer portal can work various ways for people. So I
Speaker 5: think I don't expect to see it looked like this
Speaker 5: many years.
Speaker 2: No, because I think it's cyclical or you know, not trending.
Speaker 2: Because you're exactly right, three three, two, three years ago,
Speaker 2: the Florida's of that small school whatever it was before
Speaker 2: Atlantic and you have those schools that sneak in because
Speaker 2: they play well? Right, did you before the seasons before
Speaker 2: the tournament started, did you do a bracket?
Speaker 3: I'm curious.
Speaker 5: I usually never do one. What I usually do is
Speaker 5: wait till the games a Finnish and then I fill
Speaker 5: it in.
Speaker 3: Win every year.
Speaker 5: But this year somebody asked me to do one, so
Speaker 5: I did one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so I'm curious.
Speaker 2: Did you see I had all the four number ones
Speaker 2: going to this part and I'm still wow.
Speaker 3: But but come on, that's talking. That was easy.
Speaker 2: Uh it was to me, but I'm still not doing all.
Speaker 2: I'm in the top thirty, but that's about. That's about
Speaker 2: it because I blew the first grounds. But I think
Speaker 2: it's easy. And you had to have had two or
Speaker 2: three of these because they're that good.
Speaker 5: I had just one. I had Duke. Really, but there's
Speaker 5: a count counter intuition that goes on sometimes where you're like, oh,
Speaker 5: they're not you know because those only two thousand and eight,
Speaker 5: when you know those four teams were all one. That's
Speaker 5: the only other year that this happened. So I was
Speaker 5: out thinking myself to saying, uh, I had Clemson in
Speaker 5: the final fourth. They were gone before I ate lunch
Speaker 5: that day, I was, I was there at their mcnee's game,
Speaker 5: you know. So so you know I overthought it, I think,
Speaker 5: and you know, I kept reading, Oh, it's a really
Speaker 5: top heavy.
Speaker 2: Year, and so it is the reason I ask is
Speaker 2: I don't think that Duke's gonna win it. I've said
Speaker 2: this for a while now, fair because I've loved I've
Speaker 2: loved Florida since late December early January. And I really
Speaker 2: like Houston after seeing them a few times, and I
Speaker 2: think the world of Samson Colvin. So you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I don't see Duke enough. I don't
Speaker 2: see Albert enough, boss, although I see him, But the
Speaker 2: Borda and Houston means I did just catch.
Speaker 5: Me sure, And I mean, how can you watch Walter
Speaker 5: Clayton yeah and think they're ever gonna lose? You know
Speaker 5: that thing on last Saturday in San Francisco. You know
Speaker 5: that that was just like a level of will that
Speaker 5: again we talk about you don't see all the time.
Speaker 5: So any one of these four teams can win this
Speaker 5: final four. It's true and often not true, you know,
Speaker 5: but any one of these came Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Arizona had its first taste of
Speaker 4: the Big Twelve this year, and I you know, they
Speaker 4: hung in. I think a lot of people in Tucson
Speaker 4: were worried that they were going to be you know,
Speaker 4: pushed around a little bit. But did you get a
Speaker 4: chance to see much of the Big Twelve, you know,
Speaker 4: being based on the East Coast at all?
Speaker 5: I didn't. I watched. I watched Arizona in the Big
Speaker 5: Twelve tournaments, some because I was home during a conference
Speaker 5: tournament week, which isn't often the case, but I so, yeah,
Speaker 5: I watched. And then of course I saw I think
Speaker 5: saw the Oregon game right, and so so much much
Speaker 5: of what I saw was later. I think the Big Twelve.
Speaker 4: With you know, Texas Tech died quite well to d
Speaker 4: YU was kind of my sleeper pick in my in
Speaker 4: myos should.
Speaker 3: Not be ashamed of themselves, right the Big Twelve?
Speaker 5: Oh, I know they did quite oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: and you know quite also very very close to having
Speaker 5: half the final four, very close. Yes.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you in your oppression, what were
Speaker 2: your impressions? Obviously you got a great taste taste test
Speaker 2: out there in New York with with Caleb, what were
Speaker 2: your impressions of him.
Speaker 3: Were you in the press conferences with him too.
Speaker 5: Or I was, and I thought it was really Yeah,
Speaker 5: that was a powerful moment, I think for for everybody
Speaker 5: that and even though those of us who knew very
Speaker 5: little about the team hadn't hadn't seen it that much,
Speaker 5: just that moment of you know, unsolicited uh report for him,
Speaker 5: And yeah, I think it. I don't think I ever had.
Speaker 5: I kind of because I tend to as a to
Speaker 5: wake up in a confidence crisis every day. I'm automatically
Speaker 5: drawn to people who are willing to shoot the ball
Speaker 5: all the time. I just think that's something I don't
Speaker 5: have and kind of wish I had more of. So
Speaker 5: I never had a real I didn't have that negative
Speaker 5: impression of him, you know that I've heard about, you know,
Speaker 5: And all I can think about when I think about
Speaker 5: him is that mad night in New Orleans when he
Speaker 5: hit that shot to pretty much clean ship for North
Speaker 5: Carolina against Duke. So but I thought he was great
Speaker 5: in the in the Duke game. I really did. And
Speaker 5: it's so yeah, that was I mean, that was a
Speaker 5: case of you know, that Arizona team. I'm not saying
Speaker 5: that it would have beaten any of these four number
Speaker 5: one seeds. You know, I'm not saying that it had
Speaker 5: it run into a different number one seed, it would
Speaker 5: have won. But I do think it's a team that
Speaker 5: maybe in another another season sort of would have could
Speaker 5: have really stuck around even longer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, has the season been fun for you?
Speaker 2: I know you were busy with with football until part
Speaker 2: of the National Championship game, but has a bit have
Speaker 2: you been busy with hoops and and up until this point?
Speaker 2: What up until the tournament? What team did you say, Okay,
Speaker 2: besides maybe Duke that had a chance to win it all,
Speaker 2: I haven't.
Speaker 5: Been as busy with it as usual because we we
Speaker 5: kind of made a strategy to pour a lot into
Speaker 5: March madness this year. We always do, but even to
Speaker 5: sort of kind of center it there more. But the
Speaker 5: one game I did travel a good ways too was
Speaker 5: the so called Iron Bowl, Uh, the the Alabama Auburn
Speaker 5: game that in Tuscal. Loose of the first one because
Speaker 5: the road teams won both of those games, which is unexpected,
Speaker 5: but and so that kind of that made me see
Speaker 5: Auburn as a team. You know, everybody talks about how
Speaker 5: aged it is how experienced, you know, how the ages
Speaker 5: of the starters and so on. But I was so
Speaker 5: impressed that day when they went into Alabama and they
Speaker 5: were ranked one and Obama two I think at that point.
Speaker 5: And so they went in there and Bama kept charging
Speaker 5: at him and they kept, you know, fending it off.
Speaker 5: And I've I've sort of thought about them all year.
Speaker 5: That's why I say, I just think they have a lot,
Speaker 5: a lot to them, And that's why I say that.
Speaker 5: You know. In addition, obviously Florida can win this thing,
Speaker 5: as you say, and it's been a popular pick to
Speaker 5: do so and in Houston, but I also think Auburn
Speaker 5: can can win it. I've been kind of just impressed
Speaker 5: with them all the way along.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should all be tight games.
Speaker 4: I'm like, and I don't know, I haven't even looked
Speaker 4: to the spreads, but it's got to be pretty close.
Speaker 3: I mean, no one, I don't think anybody go ahead, yep. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And it's funny we're all looking for some tight games,
Speaker 5: aren't we, because we haven't had that many and been
Speaker 5: a lot been a lot of talk about it, and
Speaker 5: you know there are years when that happens. I was
Speaker 5: looking back, I was thinking back on some years like
Speaker 5: nine o seven, where there's no game that really lingered,
Speaker 5: and there are some tournaments where there's not a game
Speaker 5: that sort of stays around in people's memories five years later,
Speaker 5: you know, and then there's years, you know, when there's
Speaker 5: three or four of them. So I think it's just
Speaker 5: by chance we've gotten kind of we had only one
Speaker 5: overtime game and one buzzer beater and not a lot
Speaker 5: of close stuff.
Speaker 4: No, no interesting collection of coaches too. I mean, a
Speaker 4: couple of guys have been around for a long time
Speaker 4: and then two young young coaches. What does that say
Speaker 4: you can think about just that that the profession and
Speaker 4: maybe we're h where it's headed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do think. I do think that's a really good,
Speaker 5: good point that you know, it's it's, uh, you got
Speaker 5: this generation coming on. And you know, we've talked a
Speaker 5: lot in recent years about how this well, the stars
Speaker 5: of college basketball have often been the coaches, unlike the NBA,
Speaker 5: and and we've talked about how many of them, how
Speaker 5: many of the big stars have have either retired or
Speaker 5: or just dropped out in the last few years. Williams
Speaker 5: Chefsky Bay, I'm Bennett you know, you know, and and
Speaker 5: so I don't. It will take some time, I think too,
Speaker 5: to have people become familiar with these these new guys.
Speaker 5: And these new guys you know, do seem a little
Speaker 5: more like technicians than so far than the and that
Speaker 5: kind of grizzled old guard. But I you know, this
Speaker 5: is the first step towards two of them becoming I think,
Speaker 5: really familiar kind of fixtures in people's minds in you know,
Speaker 5: sports fans in general, not just college basketball fans.
Speaker 2: You've probably been too busy with the tournament and all
Speaker 2: that stuff, But what do you what are your thoughts
Speaker 2: on what's going on with the with the transfer portal now?
Speaker 5: And then I well, I think about I feel like
Speaker 5: a misset. I guess I think about that in in
Speaker 5: Ah an entirely different way from I never hear what
Speaker 5: I think about it said all that much, which is
Speaker 5: I just think that college sports has always been this
Speaker 5: really crazy thing other countries. There aren't any other countries
Speaker 5: that do it anywhere near to the extent that we
Speaker 5: do and value it and you know, make it important
Speaker 5: the way we do. The whole idea that you could
Speaker 5: have another you know, saying basketball for example, you know,
Speaker 5: you have an NBA champion and that's valued, but then
Speaker 5: you have a whole this other tier of the sport
Speaker 5: itself that's also value. This is really like rare human behavior.
Speaker 5: That's it might have been moving.
Speaker 3: Overseas for a while that.
Speaker 5: Made me think about it that way, But that's kind
Speaker 5: of the way I always think about it. Therefore, I
Speaker 5: just see this transfer portal that that the door opens
Speaker 5: in the middle of the tournament, and it's just one
Speaker 5: more really nutty thing about college sports.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something about the calendar. I mean, I don't
Speaker 4: think it needed to be done that it really needed
Speaker 4: to be done before the end of the tournament.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's taken away.
Speaker 4: A lot of the headlines of this week has been
Speaker 4: that and not so much these four teams that are
Speaker 4: still left.
Speaker 5: And you're right, and that's another That's another thing that
Speaker 5: always intrigues me about sports fans is you know, the
Speaker 5: attention to that is based on the fact that people
Speaker 5: people are are often a little more interested in what's
Speaker 5: going to happen than what's right.
Speaker 3: Very much true, very true.
Speaker 4: Un Plus, you have your team, you know, we're sitting
Speaker 4: here in Tucson, all worried about what the roster is
Speaker 4: going to look like in five months, and we can
Speaker 4: we I guess we can do that now because we
Speaker 4: don't concentrate on on Florida and Duke and those schools.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true, that's true. That's true. It would be
Speaker 5: nice to have it set apart the way normal sports do,
Speaker 5: you know, and and to where we could start talking
Speaker 5: about it after it was done, and that would be
Speaker 5: a whole. So the two things didn't cover each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So as you get ready for San Antonio, I'm
Speaker 2: sure you because you're not a you cover you don't
Speaker 2: really write about the games. You're more of a feature,
Speaker 2: look ahead type of guy. What what's coming up for
Speaker 2: you this weekend?
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm writing about I'm very intrigued by Duke's
Speaker 5: big Man and the fact the seven to two from
Speaker 5: South Sudan Common and and the and the thing about
Speaker 5: it is there are actually four players in the final
Speaker 5: four as I understand it, who came through those NBA programs. Uh,
Speaker 5: two of them from the one in Senegal. It's NBA
Speaker 5: Academy Africa, I think they call it. And then you
Speaker 5: know so and then Proctor for Duke Australia, and so
Speaker 5: I'm kind of keeping an eye on that and we'll
Speaker 5: get you know, we'll get there early, and we'll have
Speaker 5: a bit of access to them, not as much as
Speaker 5: we used to have. But I'm kind of focusing on that,
Speaker 5: and then something about the the coaches as well, just
Speaker 5: just as you were.
Speaker 3: Saying, we gotta we gotta go.
Speaker 2: But let me ask you this question, because everyone's everyone
Speaker 2: who plays Duke talks about it, and Arizona fans talked
Speaker 2: about it, and so did the last game they played.
Speaker 3: They talked about it.
Speaker 2: Is it by the naked eye of Chuck Culpepper and
Speaker 2: the refs?
Speaker 3: Do they treat them differently?
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I don't think so either.
Speaker 5: I don't notice that I noticed people reacting to it,
Speaker 5: But but no, I don't. I don't, you know, I
Speaker 5: I in fact, I was just thinking about the Bama
Speaker 5: the Duke Alabama game, for example. I was noticing things
Speaker 5: that went the other way too that kind of were surprising.
Speaker 5: I think officiating is so hard that I kind of
Speaker 5: expect these errors to come up, but I saw him
Speaker 5: going lots of ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well that's two people. You and Dave and
Speaker 2: I feel the same way.
Speaker 3: It's not that it was just a question, because it's
Speaker 3: something that happened, you know.
Speaker 4: It's happened a couple of big, big moments for Arizona
Speaker 4: and their history, and of course they're going to remember
Speaker 4: those moments, right.
Speaker 3: So it's weird.
Speaker 2: Chuck, as always, thank you man be saved in San Antonio.
Speaker 5: How fu great to talk to you. Thank you be well.
Speaker 3: Okay, same as you think, Chuck. Call Pepper.
Speaker 2: He's with the Washington Post. A great, insightful guy. I
Speaker 2: love having them other. And we'll take the break here
Speaker 2: and come back.
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Speaker 2: you want to talk about college basketball primarily, and we
Speaker 2: did have news that Lauren Swan right another trance leaving
Speaker 2: a freshman saying goodbye. Gosh, I'm not sure if that
Speaker 2: program is going to be able to survive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean they're gonna have to. These were
Speaker 4: all players that they recruit out of high school. These
Speaker 4: are freshmen that are now leaving. So that's where they
Speaker 4: got to be frustrating for everybody around there, thinking all
Speaker 4: the work it took just to get them here, get
Speaker 4: a really good class, and then they disappear that quickly.
Speaker 3: We've got to call hello, you on the air and
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Speaker 5: Hi, Steve? This is done? Don?
Speaker 3: What's the word?
Speaker 16: Apparently it's portal?
Speaker 5: Yeah it is.
Speaker 2: I mean you're you're a big fan. I think I
Speaker 2: can call you a big fan. Is it disheartening what
Speaker 2: you're seeing? What's the word that you're want to use?
Speaker 25: Well?
Speaker 16: I just don't know what what to think, you know,
Speaker 16: because you know, there's there's there's no disclosure as to
Speaker 16: you know, the reasons.
Speaker 5: Why is it me? Is it playing time? Is it
Speaker 5: the fit?
Speaker 23: You know?
Speaker 16: I mean guys that didn't play like Steven, you know,
Speaker 16: he didn't play, so right there, it looks like it
Speaker 16: would be you know, maybe playing time.
Speaker 5: I think he was hurt.
Speaker 16: But you know, then you see the recruits that are
Speaker 16: coming in, so guys are you know they're saying, well,
Speaker 16: you know that's.
Speaker 5: He's coming in.
Speaker 16: He's not coming in here to see it.
Speaker 2: No. I you know what, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: I think, I know you're right because we as journalists,
Speaker 2: at least I'm not a journalist like that anymore. But
Speaker 2: you don't get these specifically, Okay, well you don't get
Speaker 2: like two minutes with them. Why'd you decide to do this?
Speaker 2: And if even if we did, would we be told
Speaker 2: the truth? No, I don't think you would.
Speaker 4: And usually they when they would leave, they would not
Speaker 4: really explain it. They would just say I've decided to
Speaker 4: leave it. Even nowadays they just put it on social
Speaker 4: media and they you know, it's a standard.
Speaker 16: But yeah, go ahead, done, Yeah, and it's it's a standard.
Speaker 16: Me and my family thought of this.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 16: The real question is what what was the NCAA thinking
Speaker 16: when they closed the door and just walked out. You know,
Speaker 16: they let you know, they knew that the nil stuff
Speaker 16: money was getting passed around for decades, so they knew
Speaker 16: that that was happening, so they turned it loose but
Speaker 16: with no regulations. But I just don't understand is you know,
Speaker 16: how could you think that that was going to work?
Speaker 16: And how could you think that you know, the has
Speaker 16: still have more than anybody else, so you know, you
Speaker 16: know how much was is really going to change? I
Speaker 16: didn't open things up. And then you know the narrative
Speaker 16: was it, Well, it's so that the players can make money.
Speaker 16: You know, have some money, but you know they they
Speaker 16: could have done it with they could have started out
Speaker 16: with a salary cap and adjusted. And then I understand,
Speaker 16: and the portal opening for a team if the coach leaves,
Speaker 16: that's only fair. But you know, just the way that
Speaker 16: the portal opened up in the middle of the tournament,
Speaker 16: you know, you for any sport, the portal shouldn't open
Speaker 16: at all. It shouldn't be open at all during the season.
Speaker 3: True, no use.
Speaker 16: Even if a coach gets fired mid season, you know
Speaker 16: that team, well, you know what, the season's already started.
Speaker 16: Those guys, you know you'll have to live with it
Speaker 16: till the end of the season. It's not like you're
Speaker 16: going to transfer mid season, right.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you both, you guys, but so
Speaker 2: do you think this happens and so Don at University
Speaker 2: X is uh interested in Steve's Steve's team or a
Speaker 2: guy on Steve's team in October, November, December, and he
Speaker 2: starts communicating with him and saying, you know, when the
Speaker 2: season's over, why don't you come to us.
Speaker 3: This is what I can secure money for you. And
Speaker 3: some time you think that happens, I.
Speaker 16: Think it happens.
Speaker 3: It happens.
Speaker 16: I think it's always happened. Yes, I think it's always
Speaker 16: happened before the before it was, before it was up
Speaker 16: above board.
Speaker 5: It's always happened.
Speaker 16: Hey, man, you're not really happy.
Speaker 5: Over there, are you.
Speaker 2: I'm sure these deals have been made months in advance,
Speaker 2: and that's where I was gonna go with it.
Speaker 3: That's where I was going.
Speaker 4: You know, Henry announces yesterday and maybe tomorrow or you know,
Speaker 4: in the next week we find out where he's going,
Speaker 4: and that's probably been in the works for months.
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, it's not like he's just because I
Speaker 16: don't I don't think a decision like that in a
Speaker 16: couple of days. I don't think a guy decides, you know,
Speaker 16: I think I think this is not the place for me.
Speaker 16: And two days later he announces a new place that
Speaker 16: that did not happen in two days, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that's to me, that's the sad part
Speaker 2: of it that you know, you've been trying to pope
Speaker 2: and and not that it doesn't happen just a couple
Speaker 2: of places. It's happened everywhere. It could happen here too.
Speaker 2: You know, we're looking at this and after the season,
Speaker 2: YadA YadA, because you know everybody does it.
Speaker 16: I guess, yeah, I don't. I don't think there's going
Speaker 16: to ever be any way of stopping the poaching. But
Speaker 16: what do you think that if they had a if
Speaker 16: they had a salary cap, and if they if they
Speaker 16: if the poor, if the portal times made sense.
Speaker 2: Well, here's here's an issue to both you guys too.
Speaker 2: Uh And I think I don't know if I said
Speaker 2: this during the show. So you have the Ohio States,
Speaker 2: the Texas Is, you have the Michigan's and this could
Speaker 2: be more than football. More in football, these big schools
Speaker 2: with the Bamas blah blah blah. And we know who
Speaker 2: they are, right, the blue bloods of that even in
Speaker 2: basketball too, and Arizona's not that blue blood, right, it's
Speaker 2: in the it's in the second tier, and it's always
Speaker 2: been in the second tier. They're always even under these conditions,
Speaker 2: it's going to be more in the second tier, wouldn't
Speaker 2: you say?
Speaker 3: I would think so.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it solidifies the second tier. And you know,
Speaker 16: it just depends on how much money the school has
Speaker 16: and into.
Speaker 5: Which tier you end up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 16: No, if a certain booster, a certain booster wins the
Speaker 16: power Ball for five hundred million, he goes, well, I
Speaker 16: don't need this because I got my own billion, and
Speaker 16: he throws it at a university, he throws it at you. Tip, Well,
Speaker 16: guess who's the new SMU.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, no, totally. Imagine if you were you tap.
Speaker 2: Imagine if you're in New Mexico, Colorado State's the San
Speaker 2: Diego states of the world, and you're not even in
Speaker 2: the second tier.
Speaker 4: No, you're you're just hoping some alum makes it big,
Speaker 4: strikes it rich. I mean, who knows.
Speaker 2: Every year, Yeah, every year we talk about this because
Speaker 2: I saw this on Facebook too. Why would why would
Speaker 2: Dawn give a five hundred thousand or fifty thousand even
Speaker 2: for this year and then say, duncan you do it
Speaker 2: again next year? Well?
Speaker 3: What the hell happened to my fifty thousand this year.
Speaker 3: Where'd that player go?
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, and pick a sport. Yeah, you know, a
Speaker 16: certain alarm throws the midst of throwing let's say two
Speaker 16: million dollars at the softball program Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: Who that's right.
Speaker 16: You could throw those two million dollars. You could throw
Speaker 16: them at the top two pitchers in softball and nobody's
Speaker 16: gonna beat you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know you could.
Speaker 16: You could do the same thing with the baseball program.
Speaker 16: I mean, if you you know, because the football program
Speaker 16: is going to cost you too much, you'd have to
Speaker 16: have a conglomeration of of of donors to support that.
Speaker 16: But you could, you know, one donor could make in
Speaker 16: the non revenue sports could really make a huge difference
Speaker 16: when all of a sudden, all of a sudden, you're
Speaker 16: install blue blood what price victory?
Speaker 5: Yeah you know.
Speaker 4: I mean if you if you've got the spare change're
Speaker 4: sitting around you and you want to you want to
Speaker 4: buy a softball team, that's how you would do it.
Speaker 3: I would guess we got to go.
Speaker 16: Thank you done, Yeah, thanks, guys, have a good evening.
Speaker 3: Spare change that's going into my eight court account.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine though, he's right, if you think about it,
Speaker 4: I'm sure these that's how these pictures go from.
Speaker 3: School to school. That Stanford the members Stanford Pitcher went
Speaker 3: to Texas Tech.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like Texas Tech. Really, I mean well, I
Speaker 4: know she did, but it's just like you're leaving Stanford. Well,
Speaker 4: it's like the picture that went from Oklahoma to Nebraska.
Speaker 4: I think it wasn't then she got hurt. You know,
Speaker 4: the stud stud Pitcher. They got him all these times. Uh,
Speaker 4: strange but true. You know, it's crazy, got to get
Speaker 4: razy times. You know, it's hard to keep track and
Speaker 4: hard to understand.
Speaker 3: What, you know, the whys of the world.
Speaker 4: You guys used to get in trouble for getting, you know,
Speaker 4: a McDonald's hamburger from a friend, and now they can't even.
Speaker 2: Well you remember that story, well, you know you with
Speaker 2: Sean Sean Nelly. I think it was in the book
Speaker 2: Time or two where he and Luke went to some
Speaker 2: kind of function and game a twenty to get a
Speaker 2: something to eat for lunch.
Speaker 4: Right, and do you remember the story? I think I
Speaker 4: think he told that story at the at the Lootles
Speaker 4: and Dinner.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, right, right, so you know he went
Speaker 2: and got a big neck there. Back then there were
Speaker 2: like three dollars whatever, and he was he was God again.
Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't ask for the change, And lude
Speaker 2: asked for the change because he was kind of a
Speaker 2: tight one, but he didn't want to violate any rules,
Speaker 2: you know whatever. And he says, God, I could eat
Speaker 2: McDonald's for six days on twenty bucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Nowadays, I don't understand how it even works. I'd kind
Speaker 4: of like to see how those guys live their lives
Speaker 4: these days. There used to be such a big deal
Speaker 4: when you'd think something was up, you know, because somebody's
Speaker 4: got a nice car.
Speaker 3: What's going on here? Nowadays, you know, it's like if
Speaker 3: they don't have a nice car, help.
Speaker 2: Another thing we were talking about the past, the coaches
Speaker 2: that were in Charles Sean allegedly did did or did
Speaker 2: not give DeAndre ten whatever ten whatever money.
Speaker 3: Now it's like, that's that's that's antiquated.
Speaker 4: Do you imagine if he was in the nil era,
Speaker 4: he would he didn't last Arizona more than one year anyway,
Speaker 4: but the money that he would have, you know, if
Speaker 4: it was all.
Speaker 3: Legit at the time, when Sean would never have been
Speaker 3: in trouble yeah, I mean that's that those were it's
Speaker 3: allowed now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, basically, I mean he was such a highly regarded
Speaker 4: recruise and all these guys are, you know.
Speaker 3: Making in the millions. Just what is new now or
Speaker 3: what is new?
Speaker 18: And is that?
Speaker 3: And it doesn't seem that long ago? What was seven
Speaker 3: years ago?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Seven years ago?
Speaker 5: Wow? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is that long ago?
Speaker 4: Doesn't seem like it seems like Deanna Rain's been around
Speaker 4: for a long time. But yeah, still in the NBA,
Speaker 4: I guess somewhere out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Portland, Portland. But you don't hear his name, no, not.
Speaker 5: Like you did.
Speaker 3: I mean, even when he was on the Suns for
Speaker 3: a brief time, you heard him his name mentioned more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, anything else there you gotta dat Kobe.
Speaker 2: No else breaking on the old interweb.
Speaker 5: Not much that I see.
Speaker 4: Okay, what about Alex so Vegkin chasing Wayne Gretzky. He's
Speaker 4: only four goals behind? Now breaking news? Football is football?
Speaker 4: Spring game pretty soon a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean that.
Speaker 4: Plus we're approaching the NBA and NHL playoffs, which is
Speaker 4: kind of a fun time here.
Speaker 3: I always enjoyed that stuff. You watch the hockey I.
Speaker 5: Do.
Speaker 4: I like, I love the hockey playoffs, but just the
Speaker 4: year that that time of year, like in April when
Speaker 4: everything's kind of overlapping with the playoffs and baseball is going,
Speaker 4: you know, you throw in the n NFL draft.
Speaker 3: April is kind of a fun month as we begin
Speaker 3: April first and.
Speaker 2: Then June hitson and we had how many be by
Speaker 2: myself with you on the radio. What do you want
Speaker 2: to talk about?
Speaker 5: Dave?
Speaker 3: But when's that first football game? Who we playing?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you got a report from fall camp, fall right, right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's gonna come around pretty soon. We'll see
Speaker 2: how these guys do. There's not gonna there's not gonna be.
Speaker 5: A spring game.
Speaker 2: When is the spring I think it's the eighteenth, the
Speaker 2: day before think Thanksgiving Easter, Okay, and it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a low key type of thing with you know, no
Speaker 2: no real scrimmage game, right with some people back and
Speaker 2: things like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna do autographs and then have something.
Speaker 2: You see the tweet from John Gruden, No, I guess
Speaker 2: you Bay Football sent him a big package of stuff.
Speaker 3: Some merch merch.
Speaker 5: Why.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to come out. I guess.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's got a bag for his No,
Speaker 2: but he's pretty popular again on the internet. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: so he wants to coach again? Why not, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it'll be tough to take a chance on him. We'll see. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go. I think we're good to go. Thanks everybody
Speaker 2: for listening today. Sorry for the hiccups at the beginning,
Speaker 2: but we went okay. Thanks Dave for coming in. Sure,
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens this week. I got Blake coming
Speaker 2: in tomorrow, So thanks everybody again.