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<v Speaker 1>Thirty and the Boys game will be played at nine

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<v Speaker 1>pm Eastern on est p N two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that means that the women are party already started,

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<v Speaker 2>right and then the men. The men are coming after it.

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<v Speaker 2>And there might be a chance with the kid from uh

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<v Speaker 2>that might commit berce mm hmm from the you know, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>He has an Arizona. It might be tonight, mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys owner Jerry Jones says Michael Parsons long term deal

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<v Speaker 1>is close to completion.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's no surprise. He's like their best player or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure they want to lock him up forever.

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<v Speaker 3>They just got to be better with whomever. Just be better.

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<v Speaker 5>God.

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<v Speaker 1>Missouri quarterback Drew Pine enters transfer portal as a graduate student.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't he Isn't this like the third or fourth school

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<v Speaker 3>for him?

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<v Speaker 5>That?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Who?

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<v Speaker 3>He just mentioned. Drew Pine.

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<v Speaker 1>And an NBA discipline for Piston's timbrel scuffle. Multiple players

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<v Speaker 1>have been suspended.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that. Did you see that fight? I did

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<v Speaker 3>not the headline.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was not like the brawl and the brawl

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<v Speaker 2>back the Palace in the Palace, the mouse in the

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<v Speaker 2>palace in the Palace.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, Drew Pine. Yeah, Missouri Notre Dame in ASU.

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<v Speaker 4>So now he's going to go to a Ford school.

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<v Speaker 3>Good luck with that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Veteran defensive lineman Kalais Campbell agrees to a one year

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the Arizona Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighteen seasons. That's a long time to be playing football.

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>He had some good years in his In his first

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<v Speaker 4>go round with the Cardinals, he was one of their

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<v Speaker 4>top defensive defensive players and then he went off and

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<v Speaker 4>made a lot of money. I'm sure now he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to finish up one more year seeing if there's anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I have the top five Wooden Award finalists, Broom obviously, Flag,

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<v Speaker 2>the Kids from the Kid from Florida, The Guard Clayton,

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<v Speaker 2>Walter Clayton, Who's fantastic them as Mark Sears and produced

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<v Speaker 2>Braden Smith. Did you ever read the story? Were you

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<v Speaker 2>with me when I had the Girl from the Woman

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<v Speaker 2>from the Athletic marin you?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Michelle from the Athletic?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>She She did a feature on Caleb right before this

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<v Speaker 2>tournament start. It was pretty good and Caleb opened up

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<v Speaker 2>just you know how tough it's been with all the

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<v Speaker 2>fan negativity, his mom chimed him chimed in, and not

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<v Speaker 2>just here at North Carolina and his career how it was.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a fantastic career if you look back, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna be perfect, right, I mean, who has

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<v Speaker 2>a perfect career besides a guy named Flag although he's

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<v Speaker 2>only had one year on year, But for love, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, if I were him, I'd probably labeled like

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<v Speaker 2>an eighty eighty five fantastic moments and then not so

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic moments.

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<v Speaker 3>But isn't that about life?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's basically how we expected him when we

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<v Speaker 4>got him here, to sort of see what, well, what

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<v Speaker 4>are we getting? And I think we kind of got

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<v Speaker 4>the mercurial player that a lot of people expected. And

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<v Speaker 4>obviously the end of his career without that final victory

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<v Speaker 4>was pretty spectacular. He carried the team basically the last

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<v Speaker 4>few weeks of the season, which was what everybody had

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<v Speaker 4>hoped for.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't that changed his dynamic. I think it did.

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<v Speaker 4>And from the stuff I was reading too, there was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of nice things said by his teammates.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I didn't see those because yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>were pretty they were very touching and very enlightening because

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<v Speaker 2>even Viisar who came in, let me say something. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to add to what he's been a great teammate.

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<v Speaker 3>Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's nice. Nice to make him feel good. And

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<v Speaker 4>you didn't want to go out with a sour taste.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he was a lot, a lot was expected

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<v Speaker 4>of him. Again, as you're bringing in a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>new players over these last two years, and you're bringing

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<v Speaker 4>a steady guy like him, well maybe not steady, but

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<v Speaker 4>somebody that hope would be, you know, a leader, right

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<v Speaker 4>he You know, he's like any other player. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>when he gets to the pros, it's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 4>same way I would think, you know, if you can

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<v Speaker 4>shoot say thirty to forty from three, And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>If he'll make it, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Think no, he's projected as a late second rounder unless

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<v Speaker 2>he really balls out somehow in the summer league and whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>because he already has this label and he's a fifth

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<v Speaker 2>year guy. Yeah, you know it is if you're older,

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<v Speaker 2>it's tough, true. You know, he's the fifth year guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's inconsistent.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, he needed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get better and he did I think he did get

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<v Speaker 2>better from last year to this year. And last year

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<v Speaker 2>he was the first team you know, I'll pack to

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<v Speaker 2>I'll pack to it. But he was also on All American.

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<v Speaker 2>He was not that this year because of inconsistency. He

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<v Speaker 2>was definitely inconsistent. But yeah, I mean, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Last memories we're going to have of him with the

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<v Speaker 4>U of Air, we're gonna be pretty strong. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's that's good for him. Hopefully he'll you know,

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<v Speaker 4>remember remember that more than some of the inconsistencies of

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<v Speaker 4>this last year. But the team recovered they did, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they got to this, you know, to the sweet sixteen,

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<v Speaker 4>which I think everybody would would like to get to.

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<v Speaker 3>But how many.

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<v Speaker 2>If we went to early with commercials, oh, probably only

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<v Speaker 2>have two, right, two spots left if that? If that, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't want to go to that.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll just continue to talk until we go to the

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<v Speaker 2>regular regular time. Right about seven eight minutes, you have

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck Culpiper here coming in from the Washington Post. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>in about fifteen minutes, what else, No.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I think we're kind of waiting to see about

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<v Speaker 4>the was it buris is whether or not he's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>he's gonna commit tonight. That would be nice to have

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<v Speaker 4>that lined up with a couple other commitments so far.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think a lot of people are are hoping

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<v Speaker 2>or signaling or whatever channeling because of these guys leaving.

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<v Speaker 2>That would indicate something. You know, what do you call

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<v Speaker 2>that the tea leaves or whatever?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know we'll see butterfly effect.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, or the doves. You least released the doves.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good news, the bad news, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, yeah, that's you think the players will be

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<v Speaker 4>talking about this amongst themselves. Hey, are you gonna day?

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<v Speaker 4>Is this guy going to stay? Is am I going

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<v Speaker 4>to get a chance if I come in? Am I

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<v Speaker 4>going to sit on the bench? You know what? They

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<v Speaker 4>all want to come in and play. And Carter Bryant, sureman,

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<v Speaker 4>and he wanted to play. He didn't play nearly the minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, I bet he thought he was going to

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<v Speaker 4>get it. Sure, but sure you know that does he stay?

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<v Speaker 4>Does he stick around? And you know see how they

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<v Speaker 4>two goes.

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<v Speaker 2>You probably didn't hear this commercial, this commercial, this press

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<v Speaker 2>conference question from the same woman, Michelle uh forget her

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<v Speaker 2>last name, who asked Tommy at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>press conference before they played Duke. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>that there was some talk among probably just you me,

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<v Speaker 2>just people up and up in the Seattle talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Henry and then the minutes he got that he that

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Sean that Tommy would have or was purposely hiding

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<v Speaker 2>him from from other coach, you know, other to being poached,

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<v Speaker 2>that he didn't play him as often because he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want him to go to leave. And he he got

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<v Speaker 2>offended by the question, obviously, and it came up again

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<v Speaker 2>on a in a in a thread on Twitter, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking they're still talking about this and he still left,

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<v Speaker 2>not that he's still left. I don't think that was

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<v Speaker 2>a reason, because he played a lot, and he played,

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<v Speaker 2>They depended on him, you know, and and and dout

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<v Speaker 2>trouble caused issues and and Tommy wouldn't I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>why what would be the reason play him ten minutes

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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes because I want you to stay another year.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, there was there was that controversy too about

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<v Speaker 4>about a waka not playing. Remember there was Ye, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he got injured a little bit or whatever. He never

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<v Speaker 4>was explained, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And he never came back.

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<v Speaker 4>He came back in like in like the last couple

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<v Speaker 4>of minutes of the game, after sitting out like five

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<v Speaker 4>or six minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>That question was asked in fact by by colleague David Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>and Tommy didn't go there.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's all long ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's all old news now. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 4>they got to be looking forward to what's next. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how those coaches do it. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know they're all so they've got to have some wild

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<v Speaker 4>spreadsheet going with all these guys leaving, and not that.

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<v Speaker 2>You worked on roofs, not that you worked on roofs,

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<v Speaker 2>or you worked on the roof not that you were

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<v Speaker 2>a roofer, not that you worked on roofs, not you

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<v Speaker 2>worked at the railroad. I'm prefacing by my next question

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<v Speaker 2>is are you glad you're out of the business given

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<v Speaker 2>what we have to see? Do you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>And not that it affects you, but you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like sour.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like, I mean, you had there was

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<v Speaker 4>always hope for the future. It seemed like when you

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<v Speaker 4>knew the guys were going to stick around for like

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<v Speaker 4>three or four years. Hey, this guy's pretty decent as

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<v Speaker 4>a freshman, was going to be sophomore because Lude always

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<v Speaker 4>used to talk about the improvement between their freshmen and

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<v Speaker 4>sophomore years was the biggest they would ever have. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that was one of his things. I always remember him saying.

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<v Speaker 4>And now we don't even get to see that in

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of cases. Right, So you know, like what

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<v Speaker 4>does the Carter Brian does he think he's good enough

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<v Speaker 4>to be a top fifteen pick or twenty pick? Is

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<v Speaker 4>that worth it now?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And what is the difference between a twenty pick and

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<v Speaker 2>a top seven pick next year?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>If that happens, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of money and time, I mean, big thing.

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<v Speaker 4>These guys always talk about starting their clock, getting out

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<v Speaker 4>into the NBA contract world because what they get. These

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<v Speaker 4>can't really get their big contract for their third till

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<v Speaker 4>their third year.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave, the clock starts now because they're getting paid a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of that's true too.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a ton of money. And if it's if it's

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<v Speaker 3>true that you're.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just all speculation too, because you don't really

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<v Speaker 4>how do you do that when you're transferring four times

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<v Speaker 4>You don't hear anything much more about guys being academically

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<v Speaker 2>And they had a nice little story and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's probably more to it. Bruce Pearl with

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<v Speaker 2>was in trouble in San Francisco. Something was there, something

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<v Speaker 3>The Golden one was a little bit rough. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't want to say anything wrong here,

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<v Speaker 2>and San Francisco Stocky No, well maybe, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>But he got cleared from that from yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So and the Bruce Pearl that goes way back because

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<v Speaker 2>An assistant, he's had he's had it a few times.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was part of the Shawn Miller thing too,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to My the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, and today with me is

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Silver. Now we have Chuck cull Pepper from the

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Post. Chuck, how are you hi?

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<v Speaker 5>Steve? Hi?

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<v Speaker 16>Dave doing fine?

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing great here. Thank you very much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>How how has this road been for you to the

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<v Speaker 2>final four?

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<v Speaker 5>You mean where and so on?

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<v Speaker 3>How has it been? I'm sure you've been busy.

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<v Speaker 5>Ah, Let's see Providence and then and then Newark. Sorry,

444
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<v Speaker 5>I uh, I saw some things. Did you see?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you? Were you able to see Arizona?

446
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<v Speaker 5>Duke? I was, I was right there.

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<v Speaker 3>What were your impressions? What were your impressions of the game?

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<v Speaker 5>I thought Arizona looked very good. But Duke looks? What

449
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<v Speaker 5>does Duke look? How would we put it? I hate

450
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<v Speaker 5>when people say, oh, one of the greatest games ever,

451
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<v Speaker 5>you know, stuff like that. So but boy does it

452
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<v Speaker 5>look It's it's orgeous basketball they're playing, and it's it's

453
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<v Speaker 5>just a I mean, I guess when the king hands

454
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<v Speaker 5>like Skiszewski hang hands over the program to somebody else,

455
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<v Speaker 5>even someone who's been an understudy for a long time,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, people wonder and natural to wonder. But my goodness,

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<v Speaker 5>this looks like, as you know, for as full of

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<v Speaker 5>stars as it is, as as just well drilled and

459
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<v Speaker 5>well put together a team as you as you're likely

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<v Speaker 5>to find in many a march.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean he's basically got what three first round

463
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<v Speaker 4>picks in his starting lineup. I mean, it's quite the

464
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<v Speaker 4>talent and quite the talent going to San Antonio this weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know you wrote about it, just you know,

466
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<v Speaker 4>these are the titans of basketball?

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<v Speaker 15>Is this is this?

468
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<v Speaker 4>What we should be expecting, you know, moving forward, that

469
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<v Speaker 4>these top teams are going to keep getting rich and rich.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, yeah, I don't think so. I think I think

471
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<v Speaker 5>we can expect, well, what I expect. It might be wrong,

472
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<v Speaker 5>but what I expect is like a hodgepodge. Like two

473
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<v Speaker 5>years ago we had a four or five of five

474
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<v Speaker 5>and a nine. You know, it was the first year

475
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<v Speaker 5>without any top three seeds in the final four. And

476
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<v Speaker 5>now that we have this, you know, the intensifying of

477
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<v Speaker 5>the nil and transfer portal and so on, we have

478
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<v Speaker 5>four ones. But something Rick Patino said when we were

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<v Speaker 5>in Providence kind of made me think about how, you know,

480
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<v Speaker 5>he said that when you play a thirteen seed nowadays,

481
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<v Speaker 5>or in his case he was playing a fifteen seed,

482
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<v Speaker 5>but these lower seeds have never been closer in caliber

483
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<v Speaker 5>to the higher seeds. And I think that's because the

484
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<v Speaker 5>transfer portal can work various ways for people. So I

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<v Speaker 5>think I don't expect to see it looked like this

486
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<v Speaker 5>many years.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because I think it's cyclical or you know, not trending.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Because you're exactly right, three three, two, three years ago,

489
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<v Speaker 2>the Florida's of that small school whatever it was before

490
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<v Speaker 2>Atlantic and you have those schools that sneak in because

491
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<v Speaker 2>they play well? Right, did you before the seasons before

492
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<v Speaker 2>the tournament started, did you do a bracket?

493
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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 5>I usually never do one. What I usually do is

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<v Speaker 5>wait till the games a Finnish and then I fill

496
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<v Speaker 5>it in.

497
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<v Speaker 3>Win every year.

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<v Speaker 5>But this year somebody asked me to do one, so

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<v Speaker 5>I did one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see I had all the four number ones

502
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<v Speaker 2>going to this part and I'm still wow.

503
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<v Speaker 3>But but come on, that's talking. That was easy.

504
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<v Speaker 2>Uh it was to me, but I'm still not doing all.

505
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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the top thirty, but that's about. That's about

506
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<v Speaker 2>it because I blew the first grounds. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's easy. And you had to have had two or

508
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<v Speaker 2>three of these because they're that good.

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<v Speaker 5>I had just one. I had Duke. Really, but there's

510
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<v Speaker 5>a count counter intuition that goes on sometimes where you're like, oh,

511
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<v Speaker 5>they're not you know because those only two thousand and eight,

512
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<v Speaker 5>when you know those four teams were all one. That's

513
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<v Speaker 5>the only other year that this happened. So I was

514
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<v Speaker 5>out thinking myself to saying, uh, I had Clemson in

515
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<v Speaker 5>the final fourth. They were gone before I ate lunch

516
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<v Speaker 5>that day, I was, I was there at their mcnee's game,

517
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<v Speaker 5>you know. So so you know I overthought it, I think,

518
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<v Speaker 5>and you know, I kept reading, Oh, it's a really

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<v Speaker 5>top heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, and so it is the reason I ask is

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that Duke's gonna win it. I've said

522
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<v Speaker 2>this for a while now, fair because I've loved I've

523
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<v Speaker 2>loved Florida since late December early January. And I really

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<v Speaker 2>like Houston after seeing them a few times, and I

525
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<v Speaker 2>think the world of Samson Colvin. So you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. And I don't see Duke enough. I don't

527
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<v Speaker 2>see Albert enough, boss, although I see him, But the

528
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<v Speaker 2>Borda and Houston means I did just catch.

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<v Speaker 5>Me sure, And I mean, how can you watch Walter

530
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<v Speaker 5>Clayton yeah and think they're ever gonna lose? You know

531
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<v Speaker 5>that thing on last Saturday in San Francisco. You know

532
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<v Speaker 5>that that was just like a level of will that

533
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<v Speaker 5>again we talk about you don't see all the time.

534
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<v Speaker 5>So any one of these four teams can win this

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<v Speaker 5>final four. It's true and often not true, you know,

536
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<v Speaker 5>but any one of these came Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, Arizona had its first taste of

538
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<v Speaker 4>the Big Twelve this year, and I you know, they

539
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<v Speaker 4>hung in. I think a lot of people in Tucson

540
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<v Speaker 4>were worried that they were going to be you know,

541
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<v Speaker 4>pushed around a little bit. But did you get a

542
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<v Speaker 4>chance to see much of the Big Twelve, you know,

543
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<v Speaker 4>being based on the East Coast at all?

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't. I watched. I watched Arizona in the Big

545
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<v Speaker 5>Twelve tournaments, some because I was home during a conference

546
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<v Speaker 5>tournament week, which isn't often the case, but I so, yeah,

547
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<v Speaker 5>I watched. And then of course I saw I think

548
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<v Speaker 5>saw the Oregon game right, and so so much much

549
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<v Speaker 5>of what I saw was later. I think the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>With you know, Texas Tech died quite well to d

551
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<v Speaker 4>YU was kind of my sleeper pick in my in

552
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<v Speaker 4>myos should.

553
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<v Speaker 3>Not be ashamed of themselves, right the Big Twelve?

554
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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I know they did quite oh yeah, oh yeah,

555
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<v Speaker 5>and you know quite also very very close to having

556
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<v Speaker 5>half the final four, very close. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you in your oppression, what were

558
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<v Speaker 2>your impressions? Obviously you got a great taste taste test

559
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<v Speaker 2>out there in New York with with Caleb, what were

560
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<v Speaker 2>your impressions of him.

561
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<v Speaker 3>Were you in the press conferences with him too.

562
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<v Speaker 5>Or I was, and I thought it was really Yeah,

563
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<v Speaker 5>that was a powerful moment, I think for for everybody

564
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<v Speaker 5>that and even though those of us who knew very

565
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<v Speaker 5>little about the team hadn't hadn't seen it that much,

566
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<v Speaker 5>just that moment of you know, unsolicited uh report for him,

567
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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, I think it. I don't think I ever had.

568
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<v Speaker 5>I kind of because I tend to as a to

569
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<v Speaker 5>wake up in a confidence crisis every day. I'm automatically

570
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<v Speaker 5>drawn to people who are willing to shoot the ball

571
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<v Speaker 5>all the time. I just think that's something I don't

572
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<v Speaker 5>have and kind of wish I had more of. So

573
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<v Speaker 5>I never had a real I didn't have that negative

574
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<v Speaker 5>impression of him, you know that I've heard about, you know,

575
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<v Speaker 5>And all I can think about when I think about

576
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<v Speaker 5>him is that mad night in New Orleans when he

577
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<v Speaker 5>hit that shot to pretty much clean ship for North

578
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<v Speaker 5>Carolina against Duke. So but I thought he was great

579
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<v Speaker 5>in the in the Duke game. I really did. And

580
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<v Speaker 5>it's so yeah, that was I mean, that was a

581
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<v Speaker 5>case of you know, that Arizona team. I'm not saying

582
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<v Speaker 5>that it would have beaten any of these four number

583
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<v Speaker 5>one seeds. You know, I'm not saying that it had

584
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<v Speaker 5>it run into a different number one seed, it would

585
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<v Speaker 5>have won. But I do think it's a team that

586
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<v Speaker 5>maybe in another another season sort of would have could

587
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<v Speaker 5>have really stuck around even longer.

588
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question, has the season been fun for you?

589
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I know you were busy with with football until part

590
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:19.160
<v Speaker 2>of the National Championship game, but has a bit have

591
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.039
<v Speaker 2>you been busy with hoops and and up until this point?

592
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.799
<v Speaker 2>What up until the tournament? What team did you say, Okay,

593
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:29.200
<v Speaker 2>besides maybe Duke that had a chance to win it all,

594
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<v Speaker 2>I haven't.

595
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<v Speaker 5>Been as busy with it as usual because we we

596
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:38.000
<v Speaker 5>kind of made a strategy to pour a lot into

597
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 5>March madness this year. We always do, but even to

598
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.519
<v Speaker 5>sort of kind of center it there more. But the

599
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.440
<v Speaker 5>one game I did travel a good ways too was

600
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<v Speaker 5>the so called Iron Bowl, Uh, the the Alabama Auburn

601
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:55.720
<v Speaker 5>game that in Tuscal. Loose of the first one because

602
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:59.359
<v Speaker 5>the road teams won both of those games, which is unexpected,

603
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:06.160
<v Speaker 5>but and so that kind of that made me see

604
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:08.680
<v Speaker 5>Auburn as a team. You know, everybody talks about how

605
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:13.839
<v Speaker 5>aged it is how experienced, you know, how the ages

606
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.279
<v Speaker 5>of the starters and so on. But I was so

607
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:19.559
<v Speaker 5>impressed that day when they went into Alabama and they

608
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<v Speaker 5>were ranked one and Obama two I think at that point.

609
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<v Speaker 5>And so they went in there and Bama kept charging

610
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<v Speaker 5>at him and they kept, you know, fending it off.

611
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<v Speaker 5>And I've I've sort of thought about them all year.

612
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<v Speaker 5>That's why I say, I just think they have a lot,

613
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<v Speaker 5>a lot to them, And that's why I say that.

614
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<v Speaker 5>You know. In addition, obviously Florida can win this thing,

615
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<v Speaker 5>as you say, and it's been a popular pick to

616
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:50.119
<v Speaker 5>do so and in Houston, but I also think Auburn

617
00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 5>can can win it. I've been kind of just impressed

618
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<v Speaker 5>with them all the way along.

619
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they should all be tight games.

620
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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, and I don't know, I haven't even looked

621
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:02.000
<v Speaker 4>to the spreads, but it's got to be pretty close.

622
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:06.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, no one, I don't think anybody go ahead, yep. Yeah.

623
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<v Speaker 5>And it's funny we're all looking for some tight games,

624
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:11.839
<v Speaker 5>aren't we, because we haven't had that many and been

625
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:14.480
<v Speaker 5>a lot been a lot of talk about it, and

626
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:17.599
<v Speaker 5>you know there are years when that happens. I was

627
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:20.039
<v Speaker 5>looking back, I was thinking back on some years like

628
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:25.599
<v Speaker 5>nine o seven, where there's no game that really lingered,

629
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<v Speaker 5>and there are some tournaments where there's not a game

630
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<v Speaker 5>that sort of stays around in people's memories five years later,

631
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, and then there's years, you know, when there's

632
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:39.559
<v Speaker 5>three or four of them. So I think it's just

633
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 5>by chance we've gotten kind of we had only one

634
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 5>overtime game and one buzzer beater and not a lot

635
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 5>of close stuff.

636
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 4>No, no interesting collection of coaches too. I mean, a

637
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 4>couple of guys have been around for a long time

638
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:56.359
<v Speaker 4>and then two young young coaches. What does that say

639
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.119
<v Speaker 4>you can think about just that that the profession and

640
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<v Speaker 4>maybe we're h where it's headed.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I do think. I do think that's a really good,

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<v Speaker 5>lot in recent years about how this well, the stars

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<v Speaker 5>and and we've talked about how many of them, how

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<v Speaker 5>And these new guys you know, do seem a little

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<v Speaker 5>is the first step towards two of them becoming I think,

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<v Speaker 5>really familiar kind of fixtures in people's minds in you know,

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<v Speaker 5>sports fans in general, not just college basketball fans.

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<v Speaker 2>You've probably been too busy with the tournament and all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff, But what do you what are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on what's going on with the with the transfer portal now?

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<v Speaker 5>And then I well, I think about I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>I think about it said all that much, which is

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<v Speaker 5>I just think that college sports has always been this

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<v Speaker 5>really crazy thing other countries. There aren't any other countries

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<v Speaker 5>that do it anywhere near to the extent that we

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<v Speaker 5>do and value it and you know, make it important

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<v Speaker 5>the way we do. The whole idea that you could

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<v Speaker 5>have another you know, saying basketball for example, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you have an NBA champion and that's valued, but then

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<v Speaker 5>you have a whole this other tier of the sport

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<v Speaker 5>itself that's also value. This is really like rare human behavior.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it might have been moving.

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<v Speaker 3>Overseas for a while that.

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<v Speaker 5>Made me think about it that way, But that's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of the way I always think about it. Therefore, I

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<v Speaker 5>just see this transfer portal that that the door opens

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<v Speaker 5>in the middle of the tournament, and it's just one

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<v Speaker 5>more really nutty thing about college sports.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's something about the calendar. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think it needed to be done that it really needed

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<v Speaker 4>to be done before the end of the tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's taken away.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of the headlines of this week has been

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<v Speaker 4>that and not so much these four teams that are

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<v Speaker 4>still left.

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<v Speaker 5>And you're right, and that's another That's another thing that

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<v Speaker 5>always intrigues me about sports fans is you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>attention to that is based on the fact that people

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<v Speaker 5>people are are often a little more interested in what's

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<v Speaker 5>going to happen than what's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Very much true, very true.

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<v Speaker 4>Un Plus, you have your team, you know, we're sitting

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<v Speaker 4>here in Tucson, all worried about what the roster is

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<v Speaker 4>going to look like in five months, and we can

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<v Speaker 4>we I guess we can do that now because we

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<v Speaker 4>don't concentrate on on Florida and Duke and those schools.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's true, that's true. That's true. It would be

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<v Speaker 5>nice to have it set apart the way normal sports do,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and and to where we could start talking

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<v Speaker 5>about it after it was done, and that would be

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<v Speaker 5>a whole. So the two things didn't cover each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So as you get ready for San Antonio, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you because you're not a you cover you don't

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<v Speaker 2>really write about the games. You're more of a feature,

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<v Speaker 2>look ahead type of guy. What what's coming up for

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<v Speaker 2>you this weekend?

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm I'm writing about I'm very intrigued by Duke's

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<v Speaker 5>big Man and the fact the seven to two from

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<v Speaker 5>South Sudan Common and and the and the thing about

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<v Speaker 5>it is there are actually four players in the final

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<v Speaker 5>four as I understand it, who came through those NBA programs. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>two of them from the one in Senegal. It's NBA

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<v Speaker 5>Academy Africa, I think they call it. And then you

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<v Speaker 5>know so and then Proctor for Duke Australia, and so

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<v Speaker 5>I'm kind of keeping an eye on that and we'll

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<v Speaker 5>get you know, we'll get there early, and we'll have

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<v Speaker 5>a bit of access to them, not as much as

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<v Speaker 5>we used to have. But I'm kind of focusing on that,

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<v Speaker 5>and then something about the the coaches as well, just

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<v Speaker 5>just as you were.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying, we gotta we gotta go.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me ask you this question, because everyone's everyone

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<v Speaker 2>who plays Duke talks about it, and Arizona fans talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and so did the last game they played.

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<v Speaker 3>They talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it by the naked eye of Chuck Culpepper and

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<v Speaker 2>the refs?

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<v Speaker 3>Do they treat them differently?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so either.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't notice that I noticed people reacting to it,

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<v Speaker 5>But but no, I don't. I don't, you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>I in fact, I was just thinking about the Bama

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<v Speaker 5>the Duke Alabama game, for example. I was noticing things

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<v Speaker 5>that went the other way too that kind of were surprising.

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<v Speaker 5>I think officiating is so hard that I kind of

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<v Speaker 5>expect these errors to come up, but I saw him

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<v Speaker 5>going lots of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, well that's two people. You and Dave and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not that it was just a question, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>something that happened, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's happened a couple of big, big moments for Arizona

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<v Speaker 4>and their history, and of course they're going to remember

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<v Speaker 4>those moments, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck, as always, thank you man be saved in San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 5>How fu great to talk to you. Thank you be well.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, same as you think, Chuck. Call Pepper.

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<v Speaker 2>He's with the Washington Post. A great, insightful guy. I

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<v Speaker 6>This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 6>Want to take part in the show call out Steve

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<v Speaker 6>now went five two oh four one six seventy four Ford.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I in the loot here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in today's Dave Silver.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got kobeat the controls. If you want to call,

890
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<v Speaker 2>this is a perfect time. Five two zero four one

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<v Speaker 2>six seventy four forty will take your call, talking whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about college basketball primarily, and we

893
00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:00.639
<v Speaker 2>did have news that Lauren Swan right another trance leaving

894
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:04.440
<v Speaker 2>a freshman saying goodbye. Gosh, I'm not sure if that

895
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:06.840
<v Speaker 2>program is going to be able to survive.

896
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:10.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I mean they're gonna have to. These were

897
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:12.840
<v Speaker 4>all players that they recruit out of high school. These

898
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:14.480
<v Speaker 4>are freshmen that are now leaving. So that's where they

899
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:17.800
<v Speaker 4>got to be frustrating for everybody around there, thinking all

900
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:19.480
<v Speaker 4>the work it took just to get them here, get

901
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 4>a really good class, and then they disappear that quickly.

902
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.760
<v Speaker 3>We've got to call hello, you on the air and

903
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 3>one on the ball. Who's this.

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00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:28.800
<v Speaker 5>Hi, Steve? This is done? Don?

905
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:29.440
<v Speaker 3>What's the word?

906
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:33.119
<v Speaker 16>Apparently it's portal?

907
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:34.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah it is.

908
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean you're you're a big fan. I think I

909
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:39.599
<v Speaker 2>can call you a big fan. Is it disheartening what

910
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.800
<v Speaker 2>you're seeing? What's the word that you're want to use?

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00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:44.519
<v Speaker 25>Well?

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00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:50.960
<v Speaker 16>I just don't know what what to think, you know,

913
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:57.199
<v Speaker 16>because you know, there's there's there's no disclosure as to

914
00:43:57.719 --> 00:43:58.519
<v Speaker 16>you know, the reasons.

915
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:02.880
<v Speaker 5>Why is it me? Is it playing time? Is it

916
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:03.719
<v Speaker 5>the fit?

917
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:05.239
<v Speaker 23>You know?

918
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.360
<v Speaker 16>I mean guys that didn't play like Steven, you know,

919
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 16>he didn't play, so right there, it looks like it

920
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:15.880
<v Speaker 16>would be you know, maybe playing time.

921
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:16.880
<v Speaker 5>I think he was hurt.

922
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.599
<v Speaker 16>But you know, then you see the recruits that are

923
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.239
<v Speaker 16>coming in, so guys are you know they're saying, well,

924
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<v Speaker 16>you know that's.

925
00:44:26.920 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 5>He's coming in.

926
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:29.000
<v Speaker 16>He's not coming in here to see it.

927
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:31.320
<v Speaker 2>No. I you know what, at the end of the day,

928
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.400
<v Speaker 2>I think, I know you're right because we as journalists,

929
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:36.480
<v Speaker 2>at least I'm not a journalist like that anymore. But

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get these specifically, Okay, well you don't get

931
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:41.079
<v Speaker 2>like two minutes with them. Why'd you decide to do this?

932
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<v Speaker 2>And if even if we did, would we be told

933
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<v Speaker 2>the truth? No, I don't think you would.

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<v Speaker 4>And usually they when they would leave, they would not

935
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:50.079
<v Speaker 4>really explain it. They would just say I've decided to

936
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.079
<v Speaker 4>leave it. Even nowadays they just put it on social

937
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<v Speaker 4>media and they you know, it's a standard.

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<v Speaker 16>But yeah, go ahead, done, Yeah, and it's it's a standard.

939
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<v Speaker 16>Me and my family thought of this.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

941
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<v Speaker 16>The real question is what what was the NCAA thinking

942
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.840
<v Speaker 16>when they closed the door and just walked out. You know,

943
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:11.159
<v Speaker 16>they let you know, they knew that the nil stuff

944
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:17.840
<v Speaker 16>money was getting passed around for decades, so they knew

945
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:20.280
<v Speaker 16>that that was happening, so they turned it loose but

946
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:29.800
<v Speaker 16>with no regulations. But I just don't understand is you know,

947
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 16>how could you think that that was going to work?

948
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 16>And how could you think that you know, the has

949
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:40.519
<v Speaker 16>still have more than anybody else, so you know, you

950
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:43.079
<v Speaker 16>know how much was is really going to change? I

951
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:46.559
<v Speaker 16>didn't open things up. And then you know the narrative

952
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.039
<v Speaker 16>was it, Well, it's so that the players can make money.

953
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.519
<v Speaker 16>You know, have some money, but you know they they

954
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<v Speaker 16>could have done it with they could have started out

955
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.960
<v Speaker 16>with a salary cap and adjusted. And then I understand,

956
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:03.599
<v Speaker 16>and the portal opening for a team if the coach leaves,

957
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:08.119
<v Speaker 16>that's only fair. But you know, just the way that

958
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 16>the portal opened up in the middle of the tournament,

959
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:15.400
<v Speaker 16>you know, you for any sport, the portal shouldn't open

960
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:18.920
<v Speaker 16>at all. It shouldn't be open at all during the season.

961
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:21.159
<v Speaker 3>True, no use.

962
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:25.360
<v Speaker 16>Even if a coach gets fired mid season, you know

963
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:28.119
<v Speaker 16>that team, well, you know what, the season's already started.

964
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:30.639
<v Speaker 16>Those guys, you know you'll have to live with it

965
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:32.480
<v Speaker 16>till the end of the season. It's not like you're

966
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:34.079
<v Speaker 16>going to transfer mid season, right.

967
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you both, you guys, but so

968
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:40.079
<v Speaker 2>do you think this happens and so Don at University

969
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:46.519
<v Speaker 2>X is uh interested in Steve's Steve's team or a

970
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 2>guy on Steve's team in October, November, December, and he

971
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 2>starts communicating with him and saying, you know, when the

972
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:55.840
<v Speaker 2>season's over, why don't you come to us.

973
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.599
<v Speaker 3>This is what I can secure money for you. And

974
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:02.679
<v Speaker 3>some time you think that happens, I.

975
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:03.480
<v Speaker 16>Think it happens.

976
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:04.400
<v Speaker 3>It happens.

977
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.440
<v Speaker 16>I think it's always happened. Yes, I think it's always

978
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.679
<v Speaker 16>happened before the before it was, before it was up

979
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 16>above board.

980
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 5>It's always happened.

981
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:15.320
<v Speaker 16>Hey, man, you're not really happy.

982
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 5>Over there, are you.

983
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure these deals have been made months in advance,

984
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:20.760
<v Speaker 2>and that's where I was gonna go with it.

985
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:21.480
<v Speaker 3>That's where I was going.

986
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.320
<v Speaker 4>You know, Henry announces yesterday and maybe tomorrow or you know,

987
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 4>in the next week we find out where he's going,

988
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:28.480
<v Speaker 4>and that's probably been in the works for months.

989
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:31.800
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, you know, it's not like he's just because I

990
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 16>don't I don't think a decision like that in a

991
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:38.239
<v Speaker 16>couple of days. I don't think a guy decides, you know,

992
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:40.639
<v Speaker 16>I think I think this is not the place for me.

993
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 16>And two days later he announces a new place that

994
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:46.800
<v Speaker 16>that did not happen in two days, right.

995
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And that's to me, that's the sad part

996
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 2>of it that you know, you've been trying to pope

997
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:54.840
<v Speaker 2>and and not that it doesn't happen just a couple

998
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 2>of places. It's happened everywhere. It could happen here too.

999
00:47:57.480 --> 00:47:59.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're looking at this and after the season,

1000
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.960
<v Speaker 2>YadA YadA, because you know everybody does it.

1001
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:07.280
<v Speaker 16>I guess, yeah, I don't. I don't think there's going

1002
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:12.599
<v Speaker 16>to ever be any way of stopping the poaching. But

1003
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:15.000
<v Speaker 16>what do you think that if they had a if

1004
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:17.320
<v Speaker 16>they had a salary cap, and if they if they

1005
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:20.920
<v Speaker 16>if the poor, if the portal times made sense.

1006
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, here's here's an issue to both you guys too.

1007
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:26.039
<v Speaker 2>Uh And I think I don't know if I said

1008
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:28.519
<v Speaker 2>this during the show. So you have the Ohio States,

1009
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:30.760
<v Speaker 2>the Texas Is, you have the Michigan's and this could

1010
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.079
<v Speaker 2>be more than football. More in football, these big schools

1011
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:35.800
<v Speaker 2>with the Bamas blah blah blah. And we know who

1012
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:38.000
<v Speaker 2>they are, right, the blue bloods of that even in

1013
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:41.079
<v Speaker 2>basketball too, and Arizona's not that blue blood, right, it's

1014
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:43.239
<v Speaker 2>in the it's in the second tier, and it's always

1015
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:46.840
<v Speaker 2>been in the second tier. They're always even under these conditions,

1016
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:49.119
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be more in the second tier, wouldn't

1017
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:49.400
<v Speaker 2>you say?

1018
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:50.039
<v Speaker 3>I would think so.

1019
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:55.960
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, I think it solidifies the second tier. And you know,

1020
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:59.079
<v Speaker 16>it just depends on how much money the school has

1021
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:00.800
<v Speaker 16>and into.

1022
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:02.119
<v Speaker 5>Which tier you end up.

1023
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:02.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 16>No, if a certain booster, a certain booster wins the

1025
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:08.719
<v Speaker 16>power Ball for five hundred million, he goes, well, I

1026
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.320
<v Speaker 16>don't need this because I got my own billion, and

1027
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:15.480
<v Speaker 16>he throws it at a university, he throws it at you. Tip, Well,

1028
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:16.920
<v Speaker 16>guess who's the new SMU.

1029
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:21.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, no, totally. Imagine if you were you tap.

1030
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Imagine if you're in New Mexico, Colorado State's the San

1031
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Diego states of the world, and you're not even in

1032
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:27.800
<v Speaker 2>the second tier.

1033
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:32.760
<v Speaker 4>No, you're you're just hoping some alum makes it big,

1034
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.119
<v Speaker 4>strikes it rich. I mean, who knows.

1035
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Every year, Yeah, every year we talk about this because

1036
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 2>I saw this on Facebook too. Why would why would

1037
00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Dawn give a five hundred thousand or fifty thousand even

1038
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:47.719
<v Speaker 2>for this year and then say, duncan you do it

1039
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:48.880
<v Speaker 2>again next year? Well?

1040
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:50.760
<v Speaker 3>What the hell happened to my fifty thousand this year.

1041
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:52.199
<v Speaker 3>Where'd that player go?

1042
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:57.840
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, yeah, and pick a sport. Yeah, you know, a

1043
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:04.119
<v Speaker 16>certain alarm throws the midst of throwing let's say two

1044
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:08.280
<v Speaker 16>million dollars at the softball program Oklahoma.

1045
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:10.039
<v Speaker 3>Who that's right.

1046
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:12.599
<v Speaker 16>You could throw those two million dollars. You could throw

1047
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:15.719
<v Speaker 16>them at the top two pitchers in softball and nobody's

1048
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:16.199
<v Speaker 16>gonna beat you.

1049
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, you know you could.

1050
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:21.119
<v Speaker 16>You could do the same thing with the baseball program.

1051
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 16>I mean, if you you know, because the football program

1052
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:25.400
<v Speaker 16>is going to cost you too much, you'd have to

1053
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:29.239
<v Speaker 16>have a conglomeration of of of donors to support that.

1054
00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:32.639
<v Speaker 16>But you could, you know, one donor could make in

1055
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:36.119
<v Speaker 16>the non revenue sports could really make a huge difference

1056
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:38.840
<v Speaker 16>when all of a sudden, all of a sudden, you're

1057
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:41.760
<v Speaker 16>install blue blood what price victory?

1058
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:44.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah you know.

1059
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:46.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean if you if you've got the spare change're

1060
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 4>sitting around you and you want to you want to

1061
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:50.039
<v Speaker 4>buy a softball team, that's how you would do it.

1062
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:51.360
<v Speaker 3>I would guess we got to go.

1063
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.920
<v Speaker 16>Thank you done, Yeah, thanks, guys, have a good evening.

1064
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<v Speaker 3>Spare change that's going into my eight court account.

1065
00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:59.719
<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine though, he's right, if you think about it,

1066
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:01.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure these that's how these pictures go from.

1067
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 3>School to school. That Stanford the members Stanford Pitcher went

1068
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:06.000
<v Speaker 3>to Texas Tech.

1069
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just like Texas Tech. Really, I mean well, I

1070
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:11.800
<v Speaker 4>know she did, but it's just like you're leaving Stanford. Well,

1071
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:14.360
<v Speaker 4>it's like the picture that went from Oklahoma to Nebraska.

1072
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:15.719
<v Speaker 4>I think it wasn't then she got hurt. You know,

1073
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.719
<v Speaker 4>the stud stud Pitcher. They got him all these times. Uh,

1074
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 4>strange but true. You know, it's crazy, got to get

1075
00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:25.719
<v Speaker 4>razy times. You know, it's hard to keep track and

1076
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:27.119
<v Speaker 4>hard to understand.

1077
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:30.320
<v Speaker 3>What, you know, the whys of the world.

1078
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:32.480
<v Speaker 4>You guys used to get in trouble for getting, you know,

1079
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:37.039
<v Speaker 4>a McDonald's hamburger from a friend, and now they can't even.

1080
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Well you remember that story, well, you know you with

1081
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Sean Sean Nelly. I think it was in the book

1082
00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Time or two where he and Luke went to some

1083
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:45.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of function and game a twenty to get a

1084
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 2>something to eat for lunch.

1085
00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:50.320
<v Speaker 4>Right, and do you remember the story? I think I

1086
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:52.519
<v Speaker 4>think he told that story at the at the Lootles

1087
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 4>and Dinner.

1088
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, right, right, so you know he went

1089
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 2>and got a big neck there. Back then there were

1090
00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:00.880
<v Speaker 2>like three dollars whatever, and he was he was God again.

1091
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I hope he doesn't ask for the change, And lude

1092
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:04.480
<v Speaker 2>asked for the change because he was kind of a

1093
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:06.639
<v Speaker 2>tight one, but he didn't want to violate any rules,

1094
00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you know whatever. And he says, God, I could eat

1095
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:12.719
<v Speaker 2>McDonald's for six days on twenty bucks.

1096
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

1097
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Nowadays, I don't understand how it even works. I'd kind

1098
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:21.079
<v Speaker 4>of like to see how those guys live their lives

1099
00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:23.679
<v Speaker 4>these days. There used to be such a big deal

1100
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.599
<v Speaker 4>when you'd think something was up, you know, because somebody's

1101
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:27.320
<v Speaker 4>got a nice car.

1102
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:30.039
<v Speaker 3>What's going on here? Nowadays, you know, it's like if

1103
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:31.519
<v Speaker 3>they don't have a nice car, help.

1104
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Another thing we were talking about the past, the coaches

1105
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.559
<v Speaker 2>that were in Charles Sean allegedly did did or did

1106
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:41.519
<v Speaker 2>not give DeAndre ten whatever ten whatever money.

1107
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Now it's like, that's that's that's antiquated.

1108
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.159
<v Speaker 4>Do you imagine if he was in the nil era,

1109
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:50.320
<v Speaker 4>he would he didn't last Arizona more than one year anyway,

1110
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.239
<v Speaker 4>but the money that he would have, you know, if

1111
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:53.119
<v Speaker 4>it was all.

1112
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:57.119
<v Speaker 3>Legit at the time, when Sean would never have been

1113
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.639
<v Speaker 3>in trouble yeah, I mean that's that those were it's

1114
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:01.199
<v Speaker 3>allowed now.

1115
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:05.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, basically, I mean he was such a highly regarded

1116
00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:07.559
<v Speaker 4>recruise and all these guys are, you know.

1117
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.079
<v Speaker 3>Making in the millions. Just what is new now or

1118
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:10.599
<v Speaker 3>what is new?

1119
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:11.000
<v Speaker 18>And is that?

1120
00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:13.559
<v Speaker 3>And it doesn't seem that long ago? What was seven

1121
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:13.960
<v Speaker 3>years ago?

1122
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:14.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1123
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:15.039
<v Speaker 3>Seven years ago?

1124
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:16.199
<v Speaker 5>Wow? Yeah?

1125
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:17.599
<v Speaker 3>Is that long ago?

1126
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:20.920
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't seem like it seems like Deanna Rain's been around

1127
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:23.039
<v Speaker 4>for a long time. But yeah, still in the NBA,

1128
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:24.400
<v Speaker 4>I guess somewhere out there.

1129
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Portland, Portland. But you don't hear his name, no, not.

1130
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:27.679
<v Speaker 5>Like you did.

1131
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:29.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, even when he was on the Suns for

1132
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:31.320
<v Speaker 3>a brief time, you heard him his name mentioned more.

1133
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Okay, anything else there you gotta dat Kobe.

1134
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:39.039
<v Speaker 2>No else breaking on the old interweb.

1135
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:40.079
<v Speaker 5>Not much that I see.

1136
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.440
<v Speaker 4>Okay, what about Alex so Vegkin chasing Wayne Gretzky. He's

1137
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:50.920
<v Speaker 4>only four goals behind? Now breaking news? Football is football?

1138
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:54.199
<v Speaker 4>Spring game pretty soon a couple of weeks ago.

1139
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:54.719
<v Speaker 23>Yeah, I mean that.

1140
00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:57.320
<v Speaker 4>Plus we're approaching the NBA and NHL playoffs, which is

1141
00:53:57.400 --> 00:53:58.280
<v Speaker 4>kind of a fun time here.

1142
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:01.039
<v Speaker 3>I always enjoyed that stuff. You watch the hockey I.

1143
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:02.719
<v Speaker 5>Do.

1144
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:05.519
<v Speaker 4>I like, I love the hockey playoffs, but just the

1145
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:07.679
<v Speaker 4>year that that time of year, like in April when

1146
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:11.119
<v Speaker 4>everything's kind of overlapping with the playoffs and baseball is going,

1147
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:13.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, you throw in the n NFL draft.

1148
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:17.000
<v Speaker 3>April is kind of a fun month as we begin

1149
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:17.719
<v Speaker 3>April first and.

1150
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Then June hitson and we had how many be by

1151
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:21.280
<v Speaker 2>myself with you on the radio. What do you want

1152
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:21.800
<v Speaker 2>to talk about?

1153
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:22.079
<v Speaker 5>Dave?

1154
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:26.000
<v Speaker 3>But when's that first football game? Who we playing?

1155
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:27.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1156
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, you got a report from fall camp, fall right, right?

1157
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's gonna come around pretty soon. We'll see

1158
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:38.320
<v Speaker 2>how these guys do. There's not gonna there's not gonna be.

1159
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:38.880
<v Speaker 5>A spring game.

1160
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:41.679
<v Speaker 2>When is the spring I think it's the eighteenth, the

1161
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 2>day before think Thanksgiving Easter, Okay, and it's gonna be

1162
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:48.159
<v Speaker 2>a low key type of thing with you know, no

1163
00:54:48.519 --> 00:54:52.000
<v Speaker 2>no real scrimmage game, right with some people back and

1164
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:52.480
<v Speaker 2>things like that.

1165
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:54.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're gonna do autographs and then have something.

1166
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:58.159
<v Speaker 2>You see the tweet from John Gruden, No, I guess

1167
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:01.480
<v Speaker 2>you Bay Football sent him a big package of stuff.

1168
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Some merch merch.

1169
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:03.400
<v Speaker 5>Why.

1170
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:06.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to come out. I guess.

1171
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but he's got a bag for his No,

1172
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:14.960
<v Speaker 2>but he's pretty popular again on the internet. Uh, you know,

1173
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:19.639
<v Speaker 2>so he wants to coach again? Why not, right, Yeah,

1174
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:23.880
<v Speaker 2>it'll be tough to take a chance on him. We'll see. Okay,

1175
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:26.760
<v Speaker 2>let's go. I think we're good to go. Thanks everybody

1176
00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:28.920
<v Speaker 2>for listening today. Sorry for the hiccups at the beginning,

1177
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:31.480
<v Speaker 2>but we went okay. Thanks Dave for coming in. Sure,

1178
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:33.960
<v Speaker 2>we'll see what happens this week. I got Blake coming

1179
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:36.239
<v Speaker 2>in tomorrow, So thanks everybody again.
