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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everyone. It is Thursday. It's mid

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major Thursday. But of course we have I guess a

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massive big ten game just to talk about to start

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the show before we get the show going. Listen, we

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came on here yesterday recap not such a good day.

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So Rob and I have to take a minute to

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recap a great day for us. I went three and oh, Rob,

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what was it three and oh or four and oh?

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Speaker 2: For you?

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Speaker 3: It was four and oh.

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Speaker 4: But we did for those who about the package, we

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lined up on san Diego State, so double winner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I mean, that is true. I didn't

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even really think of that.

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Speaker 1: That was I kind of followed your lead there. My

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buddy Chris Thurston loved san Diego State, and I just

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said to myself, like I even think I wrote it

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in the write up.

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Speaker 2: I said, I was in a play them all mood yesterday. Rob.

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Speaker 1: You know, I kind of felt like after the first

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couple of days of the week, I said, well, you know,

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I've got Saint Mary's I locked in a decent number there.

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I'll give myself the best chance to go to and one,

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and it worked out.

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Speaker 2: We swept it.

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Speaker 1: We went three and oh, so yeah, I guess if

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this was one of the you know, you know, typically

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you probably don't want to double better game, but if

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you did, it worked out in your favor. The only

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thing that didn't work out yesterday was the parlay. But man,

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the Citadel, they were tied in the second half of

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that game. So to lose the parlay with a fifteen

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and a half point dog that was tied like with

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fifteen minutes ago, is tough.

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Speaker 2: But it's all good.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I will take the blame for

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Citadel not getting it done. We appreciate the contribution from

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Garth and who knows, maybe maybe Bayou's lurking for somewhere

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and wants to make it a three teamer today, I

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still think we got to go three team er on

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some of these. It's just the payoffice. If we're gonna

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do parlays we might have we'll try to get three

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legs and or rob maybe today, what if we agree

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on one, we'll just put it in the leg or

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put it in as the third legs parlay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: VP lost in overtime with Ciena last Friday, and I

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wanted to let him ride off into the sunset. He

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had a great run he gives out. He argua, well,

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he really probably should have went five and zero. Of

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course his leg would siena plus three and a half

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goes down in overtime, So yeah, I let him. I

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let him ride off into the sunset with a four

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and one week. But you can get you know, Brian

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Power still doing his thing every day, him and Mark

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Zeno over on the Morning Wager which is is on

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wager Talk YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we are, We're gonna get right into it, Rob.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's mid major Thursday, but they get such

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the power conferences just can't stay away.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes every once in a while they sneak one in.

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Speaker 1: It's usually like Rutgers play saying someone or Penn State,

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and we don't even have to acknowledge it or talk

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about it because Thursday is the day that typically the

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feature game is going to be you know your Belmont

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Bruins or maybe you know Wilmington. But the powers that

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be said, no, we're gonna put like a massive top

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fifteen Big ten game on Thursday, So the mid majors

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are going to have to wait for just a second.

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Michigan State Rob heads to West Lapea, Indiana tonight, just

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to the art. This might be the biggest game on

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a Thursday all season. I don't know what the uh

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you know what the reasoning was. I guess putting in

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putting this one on Thursday as opposed to Friday. You know,

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Penn State or I'm sorry, got forget Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Purdue.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they had really kind of struggled in

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these spots, these sort of big time standalone spots this year,

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but they kind.

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Speaker 2: Of, I guess, got right a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Last time we saw them in the primetime spot, which

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was last Friday Day, and they just ran Indiana out

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of the gym ninety three to sixty four.

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Speaker 2: Amazingly.

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Speaker 1: They have not played since then, so they got the

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weekend off, they got the early portion of this week off,

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and now we get a Thursday game Purdue and then

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the Michigan State Spartans in the Marquee matchup for Thursday.

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Speaker 2: What are you seeing in this one?

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Speaker 4: I'm seeing that the money jumped on Purdue. Did they

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not at it? I mean, my goodness, five?

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Speaker 2: Is that a surprise? Though? Is that a surprise? Does

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it not happen constantly?

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Speaker 4: And it kind of changed my lineup thinking, I mean

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everything I'm gonna say here is going to be pro

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Purdue until we get to laying eight points, and then

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I'm gonna kind of You know, people hate when we

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don't take a firm stance on games, but when they've

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already taken all the value out of something, you know,

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or at least what I perceived to be all the

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value out of something, it takes a second look. Let me

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go ahead and just tell you what I think on

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this game. You know, we say often, you say it

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often on my behalf. I love comp games, games where

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I can compare styles, sides, results.

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Speaker 3: Et cetera.

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Speaker 4: And to me, this has all the makings of Michigan

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State going up to Madison to play Wisconsin that night.

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Michigan State comes in with this intimidating defense. What's Wisconsin?

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How are they going to beat them? Well, what they

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have to do to beat them is they have to

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bomb threes, rain threes. They've got enough shooters to do it,

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They've got bigs who can do it. And what happened,

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Michigan State was never close in that game. Despite the

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fact that all their defensive metrics are elite. Wisconsin went

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in there and just shot lights out in their home

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building coal center. Michigan State never closed because you know why,

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because they can't really shoot. They depend an awful lot

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on turnovers, fast break points, second chance points, those types

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of things that we've talked about throughout the season. But

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beyond you army fears, they've often found it trouble trying

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to find a second scorer on that team. Some nights

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it happens. Sometimes cone Car does it, sometimes he doesn't.

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And so here I feel like you have the same matchup.

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Purdue loaded with shooters, perimeter shooters, not just like Wisconsin,

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not very good defensively. Can Michigan State exploit it enough.

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I'm not sure that they can exploit it enough. They

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couldn't do it against Wisconsin. Michigan State turns the ball over,

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you know again, a little bit like Wisconsin. Purdue's not

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a turnover forcing team. So that matchup there may neutralize itself,

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may benefit Michigan State in their turnover problems a little bit.

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Michigan State loves to hit the glass. Purduees are very good,

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and I think this is key. They're a really good

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defensive rebounding team. Michigan State is poor shooting as they are.

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If they put one up and miss. They're not going

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to get that second chance as often as they do

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against other squads. So there's a lot of things here

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that add up toward Purdue. Michigan State puts people on

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the foul line relentlessly. Purdue's not a good free throw

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shooting team. They better get the right free throw shooters

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to the line. Normally Braden Smith does walk up there,

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but you have to have the right free throw shooters.

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Speaker 3: On the line for Purdue.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Adam, I wasn't expecting eight. I do

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expect Purdue to win. I think this game sets up

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so much like the Wisconsin game. It's it's very, very

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eerily similar. And about the layoff with Purdue, because that's

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often the twenty twenty hindsight question, right rest or rust?

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so much time off college basketball team is used to

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playing twice a week now they're only going to play once?

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And again, this is just projection on my part as

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a handicap or better, I feel like the rest did

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them or the seven days off did them Wonders, they

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came off the Michigan loss, Matt Painter kind of set it.

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We wouldn't have hung any Final four banners if we

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had won this game, and he tried to reset the

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entire season. Purdue came out, they won their next game,

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got a little bit of time off to again sort

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of reset, And I think that's the spot therein for

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Michigan State.

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Speaker 3: If you like that side.

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Speaker 4: The points are attractive, the defense is attractive. Can they

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do enough scoring wise would be your concern. Can they

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hang on to the basketball would be your concern.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think Purdue is gonna win at him. I don't

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know that I could get to minus state. I'm looking

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at the total here, which was bet up from one

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forty and a half to one forty two and a half.

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I guess I could agree with that a little bit.

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Toward the over last thing I'll say here is Tom

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is was a great head coach, and I'm a handicapper better.

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I mean everything I'm saying here. Tom mizl already knows

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and then some but they're maybe some corrections he can

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make from that Wisconsin game to this Purdue game, and

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maybe they do play a little bit better defense on

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the Michigan State side, maybe they don't let Purdue run

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out and bang threes the way Wisconsin did to them.

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Maybe they went into that game a little bit cocky,

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so to speak.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just think Purdue is a better team overall, And

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sometimes it just comes down to the team, can you score,

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can you make shots? It sounds so simplistic, but you

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got to make shots. Purdue does. Michigan State overall does

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not as consistently, so I would lean Purdue. But man,

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they took at five and a half. I'd been a

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lot happier than eight and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, that is so that's obviously going

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to be the key in my opinion for Michigan State

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is like can they make enough shots to even hang

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around in this game, because if they don't the shots,

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this is the type of game where I think they

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could get run out. I think that's kind of what

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the market is suggesting with this move. Now, for me,

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I've talked about this. I'm I've been so far off

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the market with Purdue that like, when this opened five

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and a half, I knew my number was gonna show

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like big time value on Purdue. I think that might

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be the way I lean, but still I still see

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a path to victory for Michigan State, and I don't

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really want to play against Michigan State and lay the points,

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especially not at the current number. Although like my number

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is like ten point one, so it was like even

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at like seven, it's still showing value against Purdue. But

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this is this is a scenario where my handicap goes

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against like my power rating of the teams. And so

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I'm gonna pivot and talk about the total because I

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kind of think this one stays under either way. If

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Michigan State is not hitting shots, you could get your

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scenario where is up fifteen to twenty no extension, and

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suddenly you're having a hard time getting to the total.

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they kind of got they have to dig in on

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the defensive end. They have to eliminate any second chance

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opportunities for Purdue, which rob they are built to do.

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They should rebound, they should have the you know, the

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rebounding edge here in this game. Michigan State's a tremendous

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rebounding team. Now Purdue is probably going to force them

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into some outside shots. Go back to the beginning of

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the season, got to see Michigan State play one of

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their earliest games of the year. I think they went

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one for fourteen from three, and I kind of, you know,

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they missed a lot of open shots in that game.

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Speaker 2: They missed a lot of open shots. In the following game.

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Speaker 1: They had a stretch where they randomly shot the ball good,

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and I think they tricked everyone. Rob I think Michigan

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they shot the ball well. But I don't think that

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this is a great jump shooting or three point shooting team.

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hit someone on an outlet pass, and try to get

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to the rim. Purdue can probably put them into in

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the half court. Like Purdue's good enough in my opinion

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denying transition to put them in.

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Speaker 2: A half court.

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Speaker 1: So, as I sort of talk this out, all of those,

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all of everything I just said points to an under

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do I have the stones to do it?

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Speaker 2: Not?

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Speaker 1: Really, I'm not a huge totals, guy, and listen, there

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could be points. But everything I just said right there, Rob,

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does that not sound like a handicap that would lend

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itself to an under.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll add one to it. Adam.

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Speaker 4: Just going back to what I was saying about the

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Wisconsin game. That Wisconsin game landed on one sixty three.

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But I think the difference here is Wisconsin is one

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of the three top tempo teams in this league, was

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consin plays much.

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Speaker 3: Faster than Purdue. Purdue is just fine.

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Speaker 4: They're efficient as all heck, so they're just fine coming

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down in the half court. A lot of teams wouldn't

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be fine setting up against the Michigan State defense. But

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Purdue is one of those that I think can slow

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you know, unlike Wisconsin, they'll look to slow this thing down.

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So even if they would, it kind of makes the

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current number of eight and a half look even larger.

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I mean, if you're going to play a game at

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one forty two and a half total, then the implied

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final scores seventy four, sixty six, seventy five, sixty seven

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in that range, it kind of sounds close, but in

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some instances seventy five I guess Purdue is efficient enough

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to find their way there.

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Speaker 3: You get where I'm going with it.

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Speaker 4: Though it's a little bit different than Wisconsin in that

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aspect where Wisconsin will play quicker tempo than Purdue will tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Purdue is turning the ball over a little

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bit more we're accustomed to, So maybe maybe they do

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have some incentive. I actually think Purdue is a lot

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of incentive to slow this game down. I don't think

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you want to get into a scenario where you're you're

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giving Michigan State points in transition because that's what would

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likely keep them in the game in my opinion. So

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I think if this game goes the way Purdue wants

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it to go, it's probably staying under. But then again,

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you know, I think for Michigan State to hang around,

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they need to do it on the defensive end, not

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give up second chance points, which are very good at doing.

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So my handicap really points to the under. That's that's

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where I'll take a stand and make my pick on

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this game. I'll say, under Purdue, Michigan State. Let's go

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to the chat. Mansey, thank you for the donation, much appreciated.

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He says, we got a great report on wife's cancer.

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So thanks for all the well wishes. That's awesome to hear. Yeah,

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let's have a big Thursday. That's always the goal. And

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again that's fantastic to hear. So great news right there

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for a man, Let's go back to all right, I'm

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just clicking on all sorts of things, Rob, I got

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pop ups going.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what what I just did. Uh. I

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see Garth in there. He says, sorry for a Citadel,

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It's all right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you had hit six in a row before that,

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so really, Garth, I'm sorry for putting for for for

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jinxing you in that manner, but I said I would

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take the blame, so Citadel is on me.

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Speaker 2: I liked him to listen, you get to the.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen minute mark with a fifteen and a half point

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underdog in your tie, typically you're feeling decent.

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Speaker 2: So that was that was a tough one. And yeah,

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I was surprised at the watching. So I had I

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had good spot last night. Rob at Charlotte game. I

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was right at the media table, so I had the

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whole setup going. I had the charger, I was plugged

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in Citadel game. You know, my computer with me, So

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I and yeah, I'm sitting there watching that game. It

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was pretty competitive first twenty five minutes. I did not

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see that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen collapse singing in the To lose the

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game is one thing, but to go on and basically

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lose it by twenty in the final fifteen minutes after

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you played an even first twenty five and you won

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the first meeting was surprising. But let's go to Garth here.

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He's donated. We very much appreciate that he likes the

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what will next year? Rob will be the Mark Turgeon

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Kansas City ruse. But they, you know, unfortunately for them,

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they still have to finish out this season and they

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are gonna do so as a twelve point home underdog

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to South Dakota State. And so let's go talk some

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Summit league basketball here. So I'm going to the comment here, man,

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I am struggling with the the screen. He says, okay, yeah,

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because it's coming up small. I got to figure out

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why this is coming up so small for me, So

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I'm gonna squint here to read this real quick. He

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likes the um Case team total under sixty eight and

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a half. I guess it really depends on what you

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like like how you feel about South Dakota State here

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there of course going on the road as a big

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favorite for these little turn for these smaller conferences at

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this point, like I handicapped pretty much this whole card

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at this point, I have not locked in a play yet, Rob,

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although I've got like like literally five that I potentially

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could play. And when I'm getting into some of these

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smaller conferences, I'm really finding myself having to get into

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the conference tournament scenarios because the last week of the season,

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I mean a team a league like this and pretty

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much every mid major league that's going to play today

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for the most part, you're talking about teams that have

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no chance at an at large bid. So this league

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or this this week, Rob, becomes very tricky to gauge,

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you know, just just what teams are really going out

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trying to play for a in, what teams are trying

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to play to get into their conference tournament, and then

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what teams are sort of saying, you know what this is, Uh,

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this is kind of a week off because we feel

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good about where we're at and we want to focus

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on on the tournament you know that's coming up next week.

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You know, one could argue that Austin p last night.

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That was a good game, But again, it was a

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game that I think, you know, they had the top

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spot wrapped up. I feel like Central Arkansas maybe wanted

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that one a little bit more so you you and

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Casey South Dakota State. I believe the top two teams

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in this league are gonna be North Dakota State and

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Saint Thomas. So it's been a down year for the

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jack Rabbits relative to what they typically are. Do you

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think they come in and give a performance that's gonna

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get Garth's team total home in Kansas City tonight?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a it's a must win game, certainly for

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South Dakota State. Now where the standing sit currently now,

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South Dakota State, they could jump from eighth to fourth,

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or excuse me, from seventh to fourth or sixth to fourth,

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because they're only one game behind in the lost column,

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and it makes a world of difference because one through

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four obviously are going to have an advantage here at UMKC.

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The Marvin Menzies thing was a total disaster all season long.

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Haven't played a lick of defense. South Dakota State is

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not the same offense that they once were. Certainly they

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don't play as high scoring games as they did, but

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against this defense, they should be able to. To me,

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Casey has thrown in the towel for the most part,

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and they weren't a good offensive team to begin with.

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So for from Garth's perspective, I could see it. I'd

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almost try to take you the truth to take the

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opposite approach. And I'm not gonna talk Garth off of

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Missouri KSE team total under, but I would alm rather

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lean towards South.

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Speaker 3: Dakota State team total over.

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Speaker 4: Teams have made their way to this number fairly easily

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all season long. There's been a little bit of an

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increase in the full game total in this particular contest,

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up about a four to four and a half point move.

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South Dakota State's being asked right now to get to

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eighty one to win this game.

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Speaker 3: It's certainly not out of the question.

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Speaker 4: I guess if we put the two of our thoughts together, yeah,

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it would be hard to still say gay full game

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total over. So I was gonna make a mistake by

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saying that. But my preference to Garth would be to

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take the South Dakota State team total over A because

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I still think they have plenty to play for. B

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Because UMKC has nothing to play for. They're locked into

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the eight nine game. They might as well just let

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conference tournament time happen and see because the UMKC defense

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has been so poorous all season long, including right now.

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So if it's a team that's a shade disinterested, then

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all the more offense for South Dakota State. And it's

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a team that actually, at this point in time, Adam

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still needs to locate some offense. So putting up an

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eighty five point game, eighty six point game probably would

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do them a little bit of good mindset wise where

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their offense is concerned. That's the way I'd look.

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Speaker 1: UMCC has failed to go over this number and seven

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of their last nine games, and you know, I'm starting

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to look at the standings kind of looking at South

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Dakota State and how they've played of late, Like I

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could definitely see the incentive to South Dakota State destroying

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UMKC in this game. Now, do I want to lay

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twelve and a half on the road with this South

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Dakota State team? Not not really, but this is the

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you know, this is the type of game for a

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team like South Dakota State, who's accustomed to being closer

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to the top of this league than they are, that

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can still improve their you know, because you pointed out,

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you know, the sort of logjam in the middle, they

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still have the ability to play their way as high

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as fourth, and you know, they they've certainly been better

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on the defensive end. Their issues have, you know, because

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of course their coach goes and takes over the Drake job,

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takes arguably their best player with him. It's definitely a

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team that's lacked on the offensive end this year, but

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they still do kind of dig in on the defensive end.

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So Garth, I'm just gonna I'm not even gonna offer

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up a pick in this game other than to just

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sort of go back to your pick and finish the

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you know, answering the question here, I think UMKC would

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have to get there by accident. The first meeting was

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ninety to sixty two. It almost feels like rob it

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would have to be one of those scenarios where South

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Dakota State is up by so much they just kind

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of stopped playing. They stop kind of like digging in

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on defense, and suddenly UMKC up with some easier buckets

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because I think if I think, if the jack Rabbits

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are focused for forty minutes here, there's no way that

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UMKC is getting over that total just based on what

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they've done their last nine games. That's so that's that

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is right now, I think an appropriate sample because you're

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talking about what's happened in the last month for UMKC.

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They announced next year's coach. They they they like. Rob

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said they've pretty much waived the white flag on the season,

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and seven of those nine they failed to go over

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this total. So I think you found a reasonable angle

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with this team total under their garth. All right, let's

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go back to the chat here. This is ah, this

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one's interesting. Ill let's do this, I Rob, we did.

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We did talk our way I think kind of talked

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their way onto a winner in the eleven in the

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eleven AM game yesterday, we both we so I see

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people in the chat want to talk about it, and

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we will. But yesterday we talked about an eleven AM

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game twenty minutes before tip. I think you and I

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kind of both agreed on the over army shot forty

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five degrees in the game, which is basically what I

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said they would do, made fourteen of them and the

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game went over and then I think Colin Gregory liked

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buck Nellen. They won the game outright, So the chat

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wants to talk eleven AM Coastal Athletic Association basketball here,

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and we've got Charleston on the road in a league

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game at eleven am taking on Hampton. I believe Rob

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this was scheduled. I don't think this is like a makeup.

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I'm pretty sure that this was an eleven am game

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on the schedule. I remember Hampton doing this last year

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as well. I don't remember the reason, but I do

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think it was a regularly scheduled Hampton home game tipping

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off at eleven am Eastern time. So for me, there's

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a couple of things here.

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Speaker 2: Hampton.

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Speaker 1: You absolutely need to know this status of Michael Ellie. Now,

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Michael Ellie finally came back. He had been out with

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turf toe, and so this is a guy that was

477
00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:13,119
at Siena last two years ago, and he was a

478
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,880
very highly touted recruit at Sienna, and he could just

479
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,200
could never stay on the floor. And I'm pretty sure

480
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,279
it's an injury that's plagued him his entire career. So

481
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,799
basically he'll have these turf toe flare ups where he

482
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,079
just can't play. And then last year he was at

483
00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:31,519
Tulane didn't do a whole lot there. Now this year

484
00:25:31,519 --> 00:25:33,920
for Hampton, he's been their best player. I mean, he

485
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,599
is their score. And that's why it's so important to

486
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,240
know if he's going to play or not, because Hampton's

487
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:45,799
offense is significantly significantly worse when he's not on the floor,

488
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,200
and you can kind of see they've struggled without him.

489
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,799
So the flare up started early January, and then he

490
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,599
kind of tried to play through it. A couple of games.

491
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,279
You can kind of see, like the game against Wilmington

492
00:25:58,319 --> 00:26:01,960
twelve minutes, four points, the game against mom Is thirteen minutes,

493
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,039
seven points. Those are like he was clearly hurt in

494
00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:08,799
those games. You go back to the Campbell game, he

495
00:26:08,839 --> 00:26:11,200
dropped forty three. I mean, that is what this kid

496
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:15,960
is capable of doing at this level. So I will

497
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,400
note that the Charleston game with Ellie was the first

498
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,920
one that they sort of started to mention that he

499
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,480
had complained about it. And in that game, Rob he

500
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:29,720
played twenty four minutes but only scored fourteen points on

501
00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:33,079
six of seventeen shooting. Now, this is a long way.

502
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,839
This is a lot about one guy. The reason this

503
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,119
is so important Rob is we finally saw him last

504
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:44,079
game for nineteen minutes against Stonybrook, and in those nineteen

505
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,000
minutes he looked like himself. Seventeen points to nineteen minutes,

506
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:52,759
the best player on the floor. Probably would have played

507
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:54,319
a little bit more, but he wasn't a little bit

508
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,039
of foul trouble. So I like the Charleston team with

509
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,640
Hickman back, they've been better. But you go back to

510
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,759
that first meeting with Hampton. Hampton nearly won the game,

511
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,359
and they did it with Ellie hobbling around the floor

512
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,000
against Charleston in Charleston.

513
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: Now you turn.

514
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,279
Speaker 1: Around and you've got this one on your own floor.

515
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,920
If Michael Ellie gives them thirty good minutes here, Hampton

516
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,839
could very well win this game. But it's really really

517
00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:21,640
tough to know if that's gonna be the case. So

518
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,200
what do you do with that, Rob Hampton, Charleston, we're

519
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,559
going in thirty minutes, can you find a player or not?

520
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if you're just using action on this game

521
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,000
as indicating there's the league of different directions. Money's come

522
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:39,119
in on Charleston, but money's also come in on the

523
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,480
over I mean, there'd be no real reason for a

524
00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:45,039
five point movement in the total unless Ellie was gonna play.

525
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,079
Then you figure Hampton's gonna do their part. But if

526
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,279
he's gonna play, why are we pushing Rob?

527
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna play. I watch some of the

528
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,039
Stonybrook game. He looked. I'd be shocked if he doesn't

529
00:27:57,079 --> 00:27:57,519
play here.

530
00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: So and so the move on Charles Adam is kind

531
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,920
of where I'm at with this team. Is I really

532
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,480
want to play on them through the remainder of the season.

533
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,559
It seems like Chris Mack has come up with a

534
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,680
style here. They're a little bit slower than they would

535
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,799
have liked to have been if they were fully healthy.

536
00:28:20,519 --> 00:28:23,920
I think Hickman's or no, Hickman was reinstated as a

537
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,359
matter of fact, last game, so there.

538
00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:29,519
Speaker 1: Who He conveniently missed the one game that I had

539
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:33,119
a client play on Charleston, Yes, because of.

540
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 4: An academic deal, and he got reinstated, and here they come.

541
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,720
So Charleston is hole again. In my notes, I have

542
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:43,559
played Charleston remainder of the season.

543
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:44,799
Speaker 3: So I like that side.

544
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 4: So for me, I think the opportunity here with Ellie

545
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,200
going is definitely with the total. I really I would

546
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,880
expect that Charleston's going to score theirs now that Chris

547
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,920
Mack has his entire team for or the second game

548
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:05,200
once again, and Hampton with Elie on the floor, even

549
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,039
if they target him defensively at him, it would be

550
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,839
tough to completely shut him down, and you would expect

551
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,680
that nineteen minutes would grow in this game to maybe

552
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,400
twenty five twenty six minutes more time on the floor

553
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,319
for him. So to me, I think that that movement

554
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,359
is the one that's really really correct here.

555
00:29:23,559 --> 00:29:27,759
Speaker 3: I don't know that I would lay it time of game,

556
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,880
et cetera, et cetera.

557
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: Of course, if it was a scheduled game, Charleston would

558
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,000
have probably prepped for that, But total to me seems

559
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:36,720
you can still I'm looking here to get the best

560
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:40,759
number available. Thirty nine and a half still out there,

561
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,160
a couple of forties forty and a half even in

562
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,559
some spots, but I think one thirty nine and a

563
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:52,240
half is probably a pretty good overplay because when he

564
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:54,319
played the first time, they got to one forty four

565
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:58,720
and so you have history on your side here, You've

566
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:02,519
got player personnel on your side here. I just want

567
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:06,119
to check really quick here, Adam, first time around between

568
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,559
these two, Yeah, for Charleston.

569
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 3: Hickman and Doug and were involved. The whole gang was there.

570
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:14,240
So yeah, the first time.

571
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: If you're playing it early, the way I would play

572
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,720
it is over one thirty nine and a half.

573
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: So Rob, you absolutely nailed Charleston being a different team

574
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,319
with Hickman, because I remember we talked about Charleston a

575
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:30,200
little bit when they were really banged up, and as

576
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,799
soon as they got Hickman back, they started to look

577
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,920
much more look the part than, you know, than they

578
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,279
did prior. And that was early in conference play. Now,

579
00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:40,640
of course you've got you know, you've got Charleston right

580
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,440
in the mix. Another thing, so I'm gonna settle on

581
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,039
because I do agree with with some of the stuff

582
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,279
you say about Charleston. Hampton is so much better with

583
00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:53,319
Ellie on the court. Another wrinkle here is you got

584
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,039
Charleston going to Wilmington on Sunday for a massive game,

585
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,599
so you could have a little bit of a look ahead.

586
00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:02,039
Speaker 2: Spot is a huge game. I believe it's gonna be

587
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,279
no matter what. Here, it's gonna be one verse two

588
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,000
in the league, and that one is at Trash Coliseum

589
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:11,039
on Sunday night, so very similar to yesterday. I don't

590
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:12,440
really want I.

591
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,599
Speaker 1: Kind of you know, I I think at a bigger

592
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,359
number because that's the other thing. I think this got

593
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,640
bet up for Charleston just because of like now that

594
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:24,720
Charleston's back. I think the market noticed that that number

595
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,079
was a little bit low on the open and bet

596
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:30,240
it up toward Charleston. I think where it got, like

597
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,519
where the Hampton opposition came in, is probably where the

598
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:35,839
numbers should have been in the first place. So for me,

599
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,480
there just wasn't enough value to get involved with Hampton.

600
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:43,720
But the spot suggests Hampton could be live as a dog,

601
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:45,680
and I think I'm just gonna go with you, just

602
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,960
like yesterday, if Hampton's to stay in this game, they're

603
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,640
probably getting something for Michael Lelly. And if they get

604
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,480
something from Michael Lelly, they're probably going to exceed the

605
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:58,000
scoring output that they've had recently because they played basically

606
00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:01,400
without him for an entire Monthson does their thing, it

607
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,200
is hard to believe it's not an over. So yeah,

608
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:05,839
I'm I'm I'll co sign this over with you. Let's

609
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:07,480
see if we can do it two days in a row.

610
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,880
Bucknell Army got there at eleven am over yesterday. I

611
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,400
think we're gonna get another one today.

612
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: I don't think this is See here's the thing. I

613
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,079
don't think this is a kid's day. I just think

614
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,359
I gotta find out.

615
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,839
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Hampton played an eleven am A Conference

616
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,519
game last year too. I don't know why, but I

617
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:29,599
remember them playing at eleven am. I believe it was

618
00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:33,119
against stony Brook. This year they've got Charleston. I'll have

619
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,519
to figure out why, but I believe it was scheduled.

620
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:37,519
This was not like they moved up because of weather

621
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:38,400
type scenarios.

622
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll go over. We will go over with

623
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:44,519
that one.

624
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna put I was gonna suggest like

625
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:49,680
putting it, you know, as the leg we agree on

626
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,400
in the parlay, but I'm not gonna do that because

627
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,759
it starts in twenty five minutes. So that is just

628
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,880
to the benefit of the live audience, which we very

629
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,160
much appreciate, and of course we appreciate the on demand

630
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,960
audience as well. This is up on the Wager Talk

631
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:06,759
YouTube channel. Rob and I have a package up that's

632
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,400
been up all year. It's the three day double the

633
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634
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and Rob. If you had it yesterday we went seven

635
00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:18,240
to zero. I think we had a we had a

636
00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:20,000
pretty good day last day. I think we had a

637
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:24,039
six and o day together not too long ago. So yeah,

638
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:25,720
that's a you know, and if you want that for

639
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:28,400
the rest of the year, email and the customer support

640
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,519
they can absolutely set that up for you to get

641
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that through the rest of the year.

642
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,319
Speaker 2: And Rob, I've got a couple. I haven't locked anything.

643
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,039
Speaker 1: In yet, but there's one and that I may make

644
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:41,160
a five percenter today. I'm waiting for like one piece

645
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,279
of info and so I will have something today. It's

646
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:48,200
just when you get into the mid majors, I tend

647
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,720
to do my due diligence a little bit longer in

648
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:55,200
the morning because it is just much harder to confirm

649
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:58,440
injury news and you just don't want to end up

650
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,240
on the wrong side of like one, you know, a

651
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:04,759
three point move because someone is out. So I'll be

652
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,039
locking in after the show today. But I've got some

653
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,079
that I really like. Mansy's got one he likes. Let's

654
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:13,159
get Mansey in the chat. Here he says, I got

655
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,679
a position on cal Poly minus five and a half

656
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:19,400
against Long Beach State. He believes that Long Beach State

657
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,760
has thrown in the towel and Polly has a little streak. Yeah,

658
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,039
cal Poly came for me a week ago today, Rob,

659
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,079
I had cal Poly as a four percent play that

660
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:30,719
I gave out on this show lat. I believe it

661
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,360
was last week, last Thursday. Yeah, it was because my

662
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,039
sleep still hasn't recovered because I stayed up till two

663
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:41,960
thirty am watching that game, watching cal Poly score an

664
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,360
outright win on the island in that game for their

665
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,960
third straight win in a row. So I would agree

666
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,639
with that Mansey in terms of, like, you know, right now,

667
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,840
there is no question cal Poly is is the team

668
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,800
that is more inform, playing the better basketball they are.

669
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,239
They've won three straight they've knocked off Rob. Not only

670
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,400
has cal Poly won three straight games, they've beat Irvine,

671
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,360
Santa Barbara, and Hawaii. So surely this is where they

672
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,000
let down and lose to Long Beach, right, Like that's

673
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,360
that's That's what I'd be concerned with. But Mansy says,

674
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,079
you know what, I'm just gonna lay it with cal

675
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:22,559
Poly the beach. Maybe at the beach at this point,

676
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:24,119
maybe you have thrown in the towel. So how do

677
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:26,599
you see that cal Poly Long Beach And would you

678
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:29,840
go with the side or the total in this one?

679
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 4: And you know that that cal Poly game, you know

680
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,360
in retrospect they were up ten to nothing right out

681
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,559
of his shoot, plus twelve and a half against why.

682
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: Fifteen point lead in that game for them.

683
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably could have gotten yourself a little extra sleep,

684
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:47,079
But when you're betting these games, you're not taking any

685
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:50,079
extra risk. You want to make sure that they're covering

686
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:54,320
at the final horn. You know, the only team hotted

687
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,599
than cal Poly in this league right now is Northridge.

688
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,519
And we've talked a ton about these two teams this year.

689
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,559
I like them both. Cal Polly's slow. Again, to be repetitive,

690
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:09,159
I just go back to the early season game against

691
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,679
UCLA where sky Clark was kind of be fuddled at

692
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:16,960
the fact that cal Poly could go so fast and

693
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,679
shoot so good from three. They can shoot Long Beach

694
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,639
out of this game almost immediately if they're on tonight,

695
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,000
and Long Beach doesn't really have the recovery power even

696
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:29,519
though cal Poly's not a defensive force by any stretch

697
00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:30,280
of the imagination.

698
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: But they'll just continue to run, continue to score.

699
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 4: When I look at it, I wonder what Long Beach

700
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,199
can actually do to prevent that from happening. It would

701
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:44,920
take a cal Poly subpar shooting night and a Long

702
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,800
Beach really good shooting night in.

703
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: Order to get that.

704
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,639
Speaker 4: And you cap this off at him by just saying

705
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:52,239
that cal Poly's got revenge in this game, and they're

706
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,199
playing their best ball right now. But they lost seventy

707
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:57,480
four to sixty seven the first time around to Long Beach.

708
00:36:57,519 --> 00:36:59,559
Speaker 3: So these kinds of things stick in your head.

709
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 4: Tea, we should have been team, we didn't be, but

710
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,159
we're playing great right now. Rounding it to form it

711
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,400
is the fastest tempo team in the country.

712
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,119
Speaker 3: Again, I just.

713
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 4: Five and a half is a number where separation can

714
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,239
be created by a team like cal Poly in forty

715
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,760
five seconds.

716
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: Boom boom, two threes. That's six right there, Roy lay

717
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,239
in five and a half. So to me at.

718
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 4: Home, there's gonna be enough of those instances over the

719
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,760
course of forty minutes where cal Poly probably does get

720
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,880
to this number. You know, it's funny if you hadn't

721
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,280
said it, I would have said it that when Mansie

722
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,199
mentioned cal Poly's on the little streak, it's no little streak.

723
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,559
When you're beating Irvine, Santa Barbara and Hawaii, that's a

724
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,239
monster streak three in a row. Because by the time

725
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,719
the third game comes around, even though they were taking

726
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,559
twelve and a half, you kind of have to ask yourself,

727
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,360
you just beat Irvine, you just beat Santa Barbara. Is

728
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,920
there anything left to go play Hawaii on the island?

729
00:37:57,199 --> 00:37:59,400
But there was, there was more than enough left. No

730
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:02,360
reason to think that they wouldn't have that here. I'm

731
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,840
sure Mike to George driving at home right now, that

732
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,039
we want to play our best ball right now heading

733
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:08,159
into conference tournament time.

734
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: This is our shot.

735
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,079
Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more with Mansey on cal Poly, especially

736
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:14,719
at this price.

737
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, this if you can get over, if you can

738
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,679
get past the whole conspiracy theory, right like, oh this

739
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,880
is uh, you know they've just beat like the best

740
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,039
three teams in the league. Of course, you know this

741
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:33,719
will be the letdown spot. Like there's really, in my opinion,

742
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,840
there's not like a basketball reason here to think that

743
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,039
cal Poly doesn't win this game. By double digits, like

744
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:44,199
the the way they're playing right now. So yes, you do,

745
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:47,079
you do have the first meeting, but remember the first

746
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:51,480
meeting was way back January third. I mean kids were

747
00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:54,280
coming off of coming off of Christmas.

748
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 2: Break like that.

749
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,519
Speaker 1: That's a that's always a sleepy spot regardless, like those

750
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:00,679
that first week.

751
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: And so I actually hit.

752
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,679
Speaker 1: The road New Year's Day and like those days prior,

753
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,199
and it was I'll probably never attend games in that

754
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:10,840
stretch again.

755
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,159
Speaker 2: Rob.

756
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: It was like there's no one on campus. You know,

757
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,800
it's just a weird vibe. And I wonder how much

758
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,199
of that permeates into some of those results, because it's

759
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,920
like you're playing these big conference games, conference play starts,

760
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,800
but like campus is a ghost town arenas, there's no

761
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,400
one there. But more importantly, like a lot of these

762
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,800
kids like maybe just came maybe they got done with finals,

763
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,320
maybe they came back from a like a layoff, maybe

764
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,639
they got to go home a little bit, you know,

765
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:41,719
the rigors of the you know, now, the way college

766
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,840
basketball set up November and December, you're jam packed with

767
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,960
like non conference game MTE. We're going out to like

768
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:52,960
someplace to play three games in four days. Then we

769
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,159
picked up a bunch of injuries, and now we've got

770
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:57,840
to nurse these guys back to hell. So like, I

771
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,119
don't put a ton of stock into that, like ear

772
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,320
early January result, like New Year's Day weekend result. And

773
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,599
it's like if you can get over the fact that

774
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,360
the Beach won the first meeting, and you know cal Poly,

775
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:15,639
yes they are like almost playing so good right now

776
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:18,239
that at some point they probably have a bad game.

777
00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:22,000
I think you gotta love cal Poly to like like that.

778
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,800
That's this number should probably be eight and a half.

779
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,199
I was just looking at my numbers. I think I'm

780
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:27,800
closer to like eight eight and a half. I have

781
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,159
to like do the like the math. Of course I

782
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:32,719
still do like everything by hand, stuck in a different

783
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,440
century here, Rob, But like you know, I'm with you.

784
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: I can't. I cannot make a case for long Beach date.

785
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:41,079
I have.

786
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: There is nothing I can say that would make a

787
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,079
case for Long Beach Date other than you think like

788
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:49,719
it's a conspiracy that cal Poly keeps winning games.

789
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 2: So I'm with you.

790
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: It would be cal Poly your past Richie action, says

791
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,559
T and v. I think that's Trigg and Vino. Great

792
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:02,079
Night four of us for us in a classic bounce

793
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:04,119
back spot. Yeah, Rob and I did not start the

794
00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:06,239
week off the way we would have liked to, but

795
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:09,519
we both came through last night and I'm hoping we

796
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:13,920
both do it again. Rob, I will if you want

797
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,239
to throw a game out there, if you know something

798
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,079
you want to talk about, I'll give you the floor here.

799
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,039
Mostly because my computer is just I don't know why

800
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:24,119
I keep clicking.

801
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: On the wrong thing.

802
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm having a rough day here, so rather than me

803
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,960
go through the chat, do you have an idea of

804
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,800
where you might want to go with the parlay?

805
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: I do, but I have too many ideas to tell

806
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,800
you that which one I want to settle? Lot, I'm

807
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,880
kind of like you, and the fact that and I

808
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,400
keep scrolling up and down here to see new numbers

809
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,960
that are coming up. And by the way, for those

810
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,079
that are on the eleven o'clock game, this total is

811
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:49,880
bouncing all.

812
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,199
Speaker 3: Over the place.

813
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 4: Charleston's been pushed to five and a half now the

814
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,920
total has come back down off of that forty to

815
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,840
thirty eight and a half. In some instances, thirty nine

816
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,639
and a half seems to be a settling point here,

817
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:01,320
so little bit of action as that.

818
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,079
Speaker 3: We lead to tip off in that game.

819
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,039
Speaker 2: I got one.

820
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:06,039
Speaker 3: I got one.

821
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,559
Speaker 2: I'll give you a second to think.

822
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: So I have I have organized a I guess I'm

823
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,639
having my own little meet and greet in Jacksonville, Florida tonight.

824
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,960
Rob shout out Stan, He's coming to the game. He's

825
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,239
bringing a friend. Someone else said they they would go

826
00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:26,960
and if you want so quick announcement and then we'll

827
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,360
talk about this game because I'm actually like kind of

828
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,599
fascinated about this game right now and we both have

829
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,280
had some results here. So I am going to the

830
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,599
North Florida game tonight Jacksonville, Florida, and if you want

831
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:45,000
to join me, let me know DM me on Twitter.

832
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:46,880
That is that is how you can get a hold

833
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,000
of me. So if you if you want to go,

834
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:51,840
dm me on Twitter. This is gonna be Florida Gulf

835
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,559
Coast against North Florida. We're gonna be at the unf

836
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:59,920
Arena tonight in Jacksonville, a little trig fol court press

837
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:03,360
meet and Greek. I've already got two people coming and Rob,

838
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,599
I want to talk about this game because A I'm

839
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:08,440
interested in it. We're going and b or I'm going

840
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,800
and B you know Florida Golf Coast. My guy Pat Chambers.

841
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,679
He was the basketball coach at Boston University when my

842
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,159
sister was an athlete there, and I really I love

843
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,199
those BU teams were awesome.

844
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: They went to the NCAA Tournament. Believe they lost to Kansas.

845
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: I've always been like a Pat Chambers guy, Like I

846
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:31,679
got to be honest as a guy that's like Pat

847
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,519
Chambers throughout his career, I thought he would have like

848
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,119
I thought he was going to be like running this

849
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,920
league by this point, and the fact that he hasn't,

850
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,199
it's like a little bit concerning.

851
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,039
Speaker 2: Like Florida Golf Coast.

852
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:45,679
Speaker 1: I don't really think they've been great since he's been there,

853
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,400
which is just odd to me because I always thought

854
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,800
they had like resources that were better than most of

855
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,559
this league. So on and so forth. But I digress

856
00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:56,840
right there. The reason I want to talk about Florida

857
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,960
Golf Coast is because you and I both cashed against

858
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:07,039
them when they were without their best player, Jr. Cosseesneychesney

859
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:10,719
another name. I'll just continue to just ruin as we

860
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:16,719
do with this show. Rob Koschesney is back, and Florida

861
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,280
Golf Coast is one four straight. Now, he was not

862
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,920
overly effective in Florida Golf Coast most recent game, but

863
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,559
they still managed to beat Central Arkansas, who's had a

864
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:33,079
tremendous season and just turned around and knocked off Boston

865
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:37,239
p last night. So North Florida bad year for them,

866
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,639
transition year, they lost some of their coaching staff. The

867
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,119
Birds of Trey sadly are no longer in Jacksonville. They're

868
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:48,239
gonna have to like reassess the situation there. But what

869
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,119
do you think about Florida Golf Coast Because they've now

870
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:55,760
won four straight and they've looked pretty good. This is

871
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,239
another one where it's like I kind of think Florida

872
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,920
Golf Coast is just gonna ma this team tonight.

873
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: So where are you at, Florida Golf Coast, North Florida.

874
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,519
Speaker 4: Well, I totally agree with Florida Gulf Coast with Casssney

875
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:12,320
back in the lineup and the fact that North Florida

876
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,440
is not going to provide a lot of resistance on

877
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:18,119
a defensive end, right, So you start combining Florida Golf Coast,

878
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:21,079
which was you know in those Austin p games. Knowing

879
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:23,840
what we know now, Adam playing without him and I

880
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,119
think the games you're referring to was the one against

881
00:45:26,159 --> 00:45:27,440
Austin P at least, that's yeah.

882
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,039
Speaker 2: And then I think you.

883
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,679
Speaker 1: I think I had Austin P and you had Lipscumb

884
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,719
back to back days, and those are two very good

885
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:33,920
basketball teams.

886
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 4: Exactly, and they you know, you're not going to show

887
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,960
your best against those two teams without your best player.

888
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:42,800
But now you get to play bottom of the barrel

889
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:48,000
unf especially from the defensive perspective, and the.

890
00:45:48,039 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: Offense is back playing pretty well.

891
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 4: And I was gonna say this that even in those games,

892
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,920
even in that Austin P game, Florida Gulf Coast was

893
00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:01,199
not terrible offensively in that game against Austin P. What

894
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,480
happened there was Austin P was better. They were just better.

895
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:05,920
You could see it on the floid. They were the

896
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,239
better team. They were the better team when it came

897
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,039
to scoring capability, et cetera, et cetera. So now you know,

898
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:14,039
fast forward to where we're at this point in time,

899
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:17,159
with the FGCU having all their guys back, including their

900
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:20,159
main guy, and you're playing a team that again shows

901
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:24,199
little resistance. I would almost correlate that into a potential

902
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,960
Florida Gulf Coast team total over number before I speak

903
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:37,760
too loudly. Number here, Finding these things in the rotation

904
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,119
always gets to be a bear.

905
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: How come there's a lot of games the night there's.

906
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:49,159
Speaker 4: A but regardless, I can't. Yes, I did find the number. Okay,

907
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,880
Golf Coast is expected to get eighty two and a

908
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,360
half by odds makers. Eighty three against North Florida is

909
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,159
not all that difficult. Obviously, it's a high total for

910
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,960
a reason. I think that's mostly due to unf season

911
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,719
long results, which include allowing an awful lot of points.

912
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:12,000
And again, Gulf Coast might still be somewhat undervalued because

913
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:14,840
they played so long without because you know you're power rating.

914
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,119
Speaker 1: This was in.

915
00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:19,559
Speaker 4: Effect for the previous game we were talking about to

916
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:23,159
cal Poly, where you were saying this game should be

917
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:23,559
eight and a.

918
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:24,639
Speaker 3: Half rather than five and a half.

919
00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 4: But I think the reason it wasn't eight and a

920
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,480
half is because cal Poll before this string had lost

921
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,519
eleven out of sixteen games. Power Raading comes down down, down, down, down,

922
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:34,159
and then it takes a while to go back up

923
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:36,360
up up, up up, and I feel like that's the

924
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,360
same with Gulf Coast here as far as what they're

925
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,559
expected to score, eighty two and a half to me

926
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:45,039
would seem very doable for them. And obviously, again North

927
00:47:45,079 --> 00:47:49,960
Florida not the same scoring capability that they used to

928
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:55,159
have uncertain nights capable, but they're just not as consistent

929
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,760
or trustworthy. So for me, I couldn't agree more. I

930
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,079
would be on FGCU here. It looks like a you know,

931
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:05,280
it's funny too, I'm trying to think because they're located

932
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,760
in such different parts of this state, I don't believe

933
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,679
this is any type of rivalry between the two North

934
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:12,280
Florida soide.

935
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,159
Speaker 1: I think North Florida and Jacksonville are like in the

936
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:19,559
same city, so I think that would probably be more

937
00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:22,079
of a regional rivalry for this league.

938
00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: And I feel like they are.

939
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: A Sun teams from way back to because I remember

940
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,840
when my son went to Belmont was an a Sun

941
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,840
team and they played both of those squads. Anyway, veer

942
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,039
off course here, Florida Gulf Coast looks like the right

943
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:40,159
side Florida Gulf Coast team total could.

944
00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:42,559
Speaker 3: Even I could even see that happening as well.

945
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what my my number is.

946
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:52,039
Speaker 1: Well, again, I I don't play a ton of a Sun.

947
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,239
I think that I've really only played a couple of

948
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,679
a Sun sides this year. One of them was, you know,

949
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,840
kind of fading that because as the injury, which did

950
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,800
not take a rocket scientist to realize how important he

951
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,320
was to this team. But like I'm gonna go back

952
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,679
to your point, I do think because he missed a

953
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:14,000
window of time that maybe Florida Golf Coast still is

954
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:19,360
a little bit undervalued, you know, since he's been back,

955
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:23,679
and you know, he just came off of a dreadful game.

956
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,679
He had a really bad game last time out, one

957
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,800
for nine. He missed basically missed every shot he took

958
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,199
over six from three. You do not see this dude

959
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,880
have back to back games like that very often. This

960
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,960
is a guy that's leading the team and scoring, you know,

961
00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:43,400
prior to that twenty against Bellerman nineteen against North Florida,

962
00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:46,519
and he's actually had bad back to back games because

963
00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:49,519
he didn't shoot the ball typically particularly well against Jacksonville either.

964
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:53,519
Speaker 2: So I think there'sna be a lot of points in

965
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:53,880
this game.

966
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,079
Speaker 1: I know the total is high, so I will I'm

967
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:59,639
gonna put this in the parlane. I'm gonna put Florida

968
00:49:59,639 --> 00:50:03,079
Golf minus six, and I'm going to attach the minus

969
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:06,159
one twenty because I do see it starting to move. Finally,

970
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:09,320
this is one where my number is closer to nine,

971
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:15,880
so I will be rooting for the visitors. Hopefully the

972
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,480
North Florida folks are not that are probably gonna give

973
00:50:18,519 --> 00:50:20,960
me the pass to this game or not watching the

974
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:25,280
show right now because I'm picking against their team. But

975
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,360
I do believe that there is just a pretty big

976
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,400
contrast between these two teams at this point, and for

977
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,440
Florida Gulf Coast, you know, they're trending in the right

978
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:39,000
direction where like they could still finish with a winning

979
00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:42,840
record in league play and they would be a dangerous

980
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,519
four or five team. Like they're not that much worse

981
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:48,480
in my opinion when they're at full strength than like

982
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:50,599
the top teams in this league. Although I do really

983
00:50:50,679 --> 00:50:53,320
like that Austin pe team quite a bit. But like

984
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,599
I'm talking about like two and three, Like I'm still

985
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:58,639
not totally sold on Central Arkansas. They're kind of having

986
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:04,679
like an insane season. So I am going to, yeah,

987
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:06,719
that's what I'm gonna do for my parlay. Like Florida

988
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,360
Gulf Coast minus six, and we'll attach minus one twenty juice.

989
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,480
These two teams they just got they played a couple

990
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,840
of weeks ago. FGCU won that game ninety to eighty one.

991
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:23,039
I wouldn't be surprised to see somewhat of a similar game.

992
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:25,320
So if you want an additional thought, I do like

993
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:31,599
the over there as well. All right, Rob Vino, do

994
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,440
you know now where you want to go for the parlay?

995
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:35,079
Speaker 3: Yeah?

996
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 4: So many choices at him, so many choices. But how

997
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,760
about this one? How about big sky revenge tonight? Portland

998
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,840
State Montana State again, in the minds of guys like us,

999
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,639
could have been a feature game, top two teams in

1000
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:52,920
the league. But Montana State has a little bit of

1001
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,480
a revenge angle here, losing sixty three to fifty four

1002
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:58,880
the first time to Portland State. And I'll tell you what,

1003
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,960
it's a little bit of a thing of Portland State,

1004
00:52:02,159 --> 00:52:06,199
which seems to be running out of we can win

1005
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,960
on defense only in this league. They've lost two of

1006
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,760
their last three. They've been a ridiculously bad offensive team

1007
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,920
all season long that has survived on the strength of

1008
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,840
their league leading defense. But now you're gonna play Montana State,

1009
00:52:19,079 --> 00:52:21,719
who's a superior offensive team. They're on their home floor,

1010
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,639
and Montana State has been upper half of this conference

1011
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,280
all season long on the defensive side as well, so

1012
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,400
there's not a huge disparity between the two on the

1013
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,000
defensive end. For Montana State first time around, five of

1014
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:41,119
twenty five from three point range twenty percent against Portland State.

1015
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:44,599
Have to believe that Montana State, which has the second

1016
00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:48,880
best three point percentage in Big Sky Play, ups those numbers,

1017
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,760
ups that number here at home, they make a few

1018
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,320
more threes two and a half should be relatively easy

1019
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:55,760
to cover.

1020
00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:57,679
Speaker 3: And again, I.

1021
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 4: Just one of the main things here is is the

1022
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,280
fact that as I watched this season go on for

1023
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,239
Portland State, it just looks like second time around with

1024
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,239
some of these teams, Adam, because this is a conference

1025
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,079
where you do play twice second time around.

1026
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: This defense only stuff just isn't working.

1027
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 4: They can't generate enough scoring to win as often as

1028
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,960
they were winning earlier. Like I said, they've lost two

1029
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,119
of the last three, and to me, Montana State more

1030
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:26,559
than capable of generating points. You give me the home floor,

1031
00:53:26,639 --> 00:53:28,840
you give me some revenge, you give me the better offense.

1032
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,639
A three point shooting night that was miserable the first time,

1033
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,480
but you have the second best three point shooting team

1034
00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:36,840
in the league play on your side here. I thought

1035
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,239
the number was a little bit short. And again it

1036
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,360
could be that Portland State has built up so much

1037
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,280
equity and power ratings throughout the season that they just

1038
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,559
haven't pushed down the way I think they should be

1039
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:50,079
pushed down at this point in time when you play

1040
00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:52,440
defense the way Portland State has, when you have to

1041
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:57,199
win with defense the way Portland State has, you know,

1042
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,719
I'll use your comparison. It's not the same. Definitely, not

1043
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,159
for the same reason. But you have said before that

1044
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:07,719
Brian Earls teams run out of leg strength because of

1045
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,480
the way he asks them to play. When you have

1046
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:12,719
to dig in on defense constantly, and you get to

1047
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,119
February twenty sixth a couple games left in conference play,

1048
00:54:16,119 --> 00:54:17,320
and all you've done is play defense.

1049
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,079
Speaker 3: It takes a.

1050
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 4: Lot to play defense. And I just wonder if there's

1051
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,280
some fatigue sitting in on Portland State here. I'm gonna

1052
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,519
take Montana State minus to two and a half. Figure

1053
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:29,320
they win this one by three, and they won't. You know,

1054
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:33,679
it's not really for conference supremacy because Portland State has

1055
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,039
such a big lead, and you could almost, if you

1056
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:39,440
wanted to, you could almost include that in the handicap

1057
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,599
by saying, you know what, Portland State's got a three

1058
00:54:41,639 --> 00:54:44,360
game lead. You know if we lose here, it doesn't

1059
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,320
really matter to Montana State. This game really matters. So

1060
00:54:47,639 --> 00:54:50,719
that's the side I'm on here, Bobcats plus or excuse

1061
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,800
me minus two and a half in Home Revenge, Big

1062
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:53,639
Sky Home Revenge.

1063
00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: We gotta love that.

1064
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,039
Speaker 2: Rob.

1065
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw an interesting stat that I just dug

1066
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,519
up at you, and I think sort of speaks to

1067
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,320
like what you're saying about Portland State this time around.

1068
00:55:06,159 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 2: Second time around.

1069
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,679
Speaker 1: In the Big Sky, they only have four players on

1070
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,639
the roster that play more than seventeen minutes a game.

1071
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,639
Think about that for a second. They have four players

1072
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:20,599
on the roster that play more than seventeen minutes per game.

1073
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,760
It's Mina who's like they're sort of like stud Big.

1074
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: Miller Henderson Kenzie.

1075
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: They play essentially the whole game, and then it's almost

1076
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,199
like it's almost like they have to try to steal

1077
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,360
some minutes because they're just not deep. Like if you

1078
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,719
look like they really don't play like they really have

1079
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,960
four starters is really what it comes down to. They

1080
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:49,360
do not have any sort of depth, and they play

1081
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,360
the same guys all game, every game, like those four

1082
00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:56,199
rarely leave the floor. So, you know, you talk about

1083
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,199
getting in a conference season, Big Sky got some altitude

1084
00:56:00,199 --> 00:56:03,199
in that league, some tricky travel. You're going from Portland,

1085
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,679
You're going down to flag Staff. Sometimes you got to

1086
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,559
go to to you know, Cheney, Washington, right, Like, there's

1087
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:12,480
just some uh, some tricky travel league.

1088
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's what I'm saying.

1089
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:17,679
Speaker 1: And so you gotta wonder if that's you know, you're

1090
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,199
running the same five guys out there every game.

1091
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: You have to wonder if that's caught up with them

1092
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,239
a little bit.

1093
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: Because yeah, you look at like the last few games,

1094
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,840
they just have not look like the team that like

1095
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,679
came out and simply couldn't lose for like a good

1096
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,639
portion of like, you know, January. I think they ran

1097
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,960
the table almost in January until they finally lost that

1098
00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:40,360
game to Montana. So yeah, I think you've got a

1099
00:56:41,199 --> 00:56:45,960
probably got something here with Montana State. Very tough to

1100
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,840
get to the finish line when you're playing five guys

1101
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,360
a game or or or and I'll expound upon that

1102
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,400
to just hammer the point home. When you're playing basically

1103
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,559
you're starting five, but then whoever you got, whoever's coming

1104
00:56:59,559 --> 00:57:03,119
in as the six man, is really not giving you anything. Right, Like,

1105
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,599
teams can get away with playing a seven man rotation,

1106
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,440
but typically though, the six and seven have got to

1107
00:57:08,519 --> 00:57:11,000
like do something. And I feel like on Portland State

1108
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:14,280
it's pretty much four guys that do everything and then

1109
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,719
whoever else is out there is a is a is

1110
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,400
just there to fill out the five man rotation.

1111
00:57:19,559 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: So I think, uh, I think we might have a

1112
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,760
winner here. Rob. Let's keep it a two teamer.

1113
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ensure me and Stan and whoever else wants

1114
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,760
to go to the game is gonna ensure that Florida

1115
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,599
Golf Coast covers that six, and we're gonna put that

1116
00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:38,679
with a minus one twenty because it's actually moved to

1117
00:57:38,679 --> 00:57:40,440
six and a half now, So we'll put that Florida

1118
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,679
Golf Coast six minus one twenty and we're gonna parlay

1119
00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:47,079
that with Montana State minus two and a half. I

1120
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:49,079
guess we gotta walk before we can run here, So

1121
00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:51,119
let's see if we can hit the two team or

1122
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:54,199
tonight maybe we'll go two team or tonight two team

1123
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,960
or tomorrow and then we'll cut well, we'll come back

1124
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,320
with a three teamer with Kelly on Saturday. But yeah,

1125
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:04,840
let's let's get that done. And again, check out our

1126
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,039
joint package on the page. I'm probably gonna fire like

1127
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:11,440
a couple within the next half hour, So whether one

1128
00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:14,320
becomes a five percent or not is going to hinge

1129
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,840
on a text I'm waiting for, so stay tuned. But yeah,

1130
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,079
we great day for Rob and I yesterday seven and

1131
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:24,800
zero on the joint package. So we would love to

1132
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,199
have you on today and I'd love to meet you guys.

1133
00:58:27,199 --> 00:58:29,199
So if you happen to be in the Jacksonville area

1134
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,079
and you want to come to the game, shoot me

1135
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:33,840
a DM and we'll get you out to North Florida

1136
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,960
Florida Golf Coast to grind the parlay in person tonight,

1137
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:39,920
Rob little boots on the ground action right there in

1138
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,719
the parlay. All right, guys, that is the hour mark.

1139
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:47,920
We appreciate you tuning in as always, and we will

1140
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,079
see you guys in the morning for more full court press.

1141
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:51,199
Speaker 2: Good luck today everyone,