Speaker 1: Utahs at Michale tomorrow without their head coach Greg Smith.
Speaker 1: Of course, let go so appreciate Bill stopping by Sean Mooney,
Speaker 1: Zach Harper, but time now one of my favorites, Roxy Bernstein,
Speaker 1: my buddy from the PAC twelve network. On the show
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, ran King of top five Counting Crows
Speaker 1: song question Mark.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely top five. I would say, you know, it's
Speaker 2: Spence live. That might be my favorite song they play live.
Speaker 1: It's actually what I was gonna say live. It's hard
Speaker 1: to beat that song live for sure.
Speaker 2: Yes, that that song live, just the way they have
Speaker 2: tuned it over the years, it really resonates and it
Speaker 2: waits a ball. Look, everybody loves mister Jones like it's funny.
Speaker 2: I've had these discussions with Adam over the years, like
Speaker 2: when you get to his level, right, when you have
Speaker 2: number one type hits and songs everybody knows when he
Speaker 2: plays the show, there's probably five songs you have to play, right,
Speaker 2: Like for them, it's mister Jones. I think it's rain
Speaker 2: King maybe hanging around long December. It's funny. Adam doesn't
Speaker 2: necessarily see it the way I do. But are you
Speaker 2: agree with me? Like when you go to see a
Speaker 2: band like that, there's like there's staples that have to
Speaker 2: be in the catalog for that night, wouldn't you say absolutely?
Speaker 1: I just love that you call him Adam, Like we're
Speaker 1: just having a conversation about your friend named Adam. For
Speaker 1: our listeners, it's Adam Durretz. He's the lead singer of
Speaker 1: Counting Crows. He's one of Rocksy's best friends.
Speaker 2: And you know when he's putting the set list together
Speaker 2: like before a show, because they change it every night.
Speaker 2: It's not the same show. Like there are certain songs
Speaker 2: they'll play on each tour that they're ready to play,
Speaker 2: and there's some songs that aren't in the bag if
Speaker 2: you will, like you know, like a golf bag analogy there.
Speaker 2: But out of the songs that they have for that
Speaker 2: particular tour that they've either been working on at sound check,
Speaker 2: I've learned my place spence over the years because sometimes
Speaker 2: if I ask for a song, he's not going to
Speaker 2: play it just because he can piss me off. So
Speaker 2: and so we have learned over the years that we
Speaker 2: just kind of okay, all right, and not chime in,
Speaker 2: you know, not even show any emotion if he says
Speaker 2: he's going to play a song that we really want
Speaker 2: to hear in that particular night at some point though
Speaker 2: there's a few our buddies. We've told him we want
Speaker 2: to design one set list before you retire. We have
Speaker 2: to have one, and he says we'll see so, which
Speaker 2: probably means no.
Speaker 1: That's cool though, I mean, because you know, obviously a
Speaker 1: child of the nineties, man, I love the Crows. It
Speaker 1: was a long December for Craig Smith, and he won't
Speaker 1: be hanging around anymore.
Speaker 2: Nice there you go, good, good segue, good tie.
Speaker 1: And you know, ultimately I'm gutted for a good man,
Speaker 1: for your first and foremost. And I know you got
Speaker 1: to know him, but your reaction when you heard the
Speaker 1: Craig Smith had been relieved of his duties around.
Speaker 2: Here, disappointed for him, because, like you, I have an
Speaker 2: affinity for Craig. I think he's first off, he's just
Speaker 2: a terrific dude. He's a fun guy to talk to,
Speaker 2: to be around. I mean, I'll just get like a
Speaker 2: random text from Craig, like I'm doing some game and
Speaker 2: he'll just text me like because he's watching, and like
Speaker 2: I've hit him up on certain places where I go, Like,
Speaker 2: for example, his connection to the Dakotas right now, I
Speaker 2: was going out there for NCAA hockey tournament and I
Speaker 2: hit him up and he was like searching for a
Speaker 2: couple of places to send me to. So I had
Speaker 2: a pretty good connection with him that goes back to
Speaker 2: his days at Utah State, and it really is. I'm
Speaker 2: sad for him. I'm disappointed for him because I do
Speaker 2: think he's a heck of a coach. I really do
Speaker 2: think Craig is a good coach. I understand the move
Speaker 2: from Utah's perspective. I'm not saying I agree with it,
Speaker 2: which Mark Harland felt he needed to do, but just
Speaker 2: the first thing that comes to mind sense is by
Speaker 2: disappointment for Craig.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a personal element to these stories that
Speaker 1: I don't think we do a good enough job of
Speaker 1: covering in the media because we're so like, all right,
Speaker 1: what's next and what went wrong? Like he's a good
Speaker 1: man with a good family and a five million dollar
Speaker 1: parachute helps, but it's hard when you lose a gig
Speaker 1: that that you care about, and I know how much
Speaker 1: you cared about it, So when it comes to what
Speaker 1: could be next for this program? Roxy, It's interesting you're
Speaker 1: familiar with our market, and I kind of go back
Speaker 1: and forth with the dynamic here because there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people that simply just jump to we need
Speaker 1: a former ute, We need somebody who's familiar with the program.
Speaker 1: We need somebody who's familiar with the challenges and the oddities.
Speaker 1: Honestly speaking, that this market poses that don't really exist
Speaker 1: in many other places. As much as I love it here,
Speaker 1: I know that there are things that you have to
Speaker 1: traverse that can be a little bit complex. Do you
Speaker 1: think it has to be a Utah guy or do
Speaker 1: you think Mark Harlan goes the way of trying to
Speaker 1: find one of these young candidates at a smaller school
Speaker 1: that's done a really good job, or maybe somebody has
Speaker 1: been out of the game. Like, what's your take on
Speaker 1: what could be next around here?
Speaker 2: At certain places, I do believe you need that connection.
Speaker 2: I don't think Utah is one of those places that
Speaker 2: I think Utah has had enough success, enough tradition, and
Speaker 2: enough history that they can bring in somebody from the
Speaker 2: outside if you will. And look, a lot of times,
Speaker 2: if you hire a coach that doesn't have that connection
Speaker 2: to a specific program, then you hire an assistant on
Speaker 2: your staff that fits and understands the landscape, like for example,
Speaker 2: mile of Moderate cal Right, there are so many hoops
Speaker 2: and so much political red tape you have to deal
Speaker 2: with at a place like cal that you have to
Speaker 2: have an understanding of what you're up against. And I
Speaker 2: think the same can be said for a place like Stanford.
Speaker 2: Utah is not in that same boat. To me, I
Speaker 2: think Utah is a place where you can bring in
Speaker 2: somebody that doesn't necessarily have that connection because of the
Speaker 2: tradition and the success that this program has had in
Speaker 2: the past. And you look up the rafters and you
Speaker 2: see the likes of you know, a Keith van Horn's
Speaker 2: name up there, Andrew Bogan, Andre Miller, all these great
Speaker 2: players that have come through, and like, for example, you know,
Speaker 2: Rick Pajeris came through and had a lot of success.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that for me, that wouldn't be a
Speaker 2: prerequisite as far as who the next coach of the
Speaker 2: University of Utah men's hoops team should be.
Speaker 1: I do think and I have said, and I haven't
Speaker 1: necessarily always been on this train, only because I am
Speaker 1: well aware of when guys have an opportunity to live
Speaker 1: that NBA lifestyle, they don't necessarily want to go back
Speaker 1: to the college days. It's not all tried and true.
Speaker 1: Calipari Patino BYU hired Kevin Young. But you know, there's
Speaker 1: some former utes in pro basketball right now that are
Speaker 1: very respected and highly thought of. And I want to
Speaker 1: ask about Alex Jensen, who's a lead assistant for Jason
Speaker 1: Kidd in Dallas, and Alex was Quinn Snyder's lead assistant
Speaker 1: here in Salt Lake. He worked for Will Hardy for
Speaker 1: one year and essentially that was just like he's under
Speaker 1: contract and they liked him, so you can hang around Will.
Speaker 1: I don't think everyone's gonna have him on a staff.
Speaker 1: But five years ago, when Mark decided to fire Larry Koskoviak,
Speaker 1: the name Alex Jensen surfaced, and I said on air,
Speaker 1: I don't think he takes it because I thought at
Speaker 1: the time he was going to parlay his tenure with
Speaker 1: the Jazz into a head coaching opportunity in the pros
Speaker 1: that has never come. And so five years later, I
Speaker 1: think Alex might be more inclined to answer the phone
Speaker 1: that he was, you know, not too long ago. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Alex Jensen as a potential candidate
Speaker 1: to replace dreg Well.
Speaker 2: I'm familiar with him to an extent, but one thing
Speaker 2: I do know is Jason Kidd thinks the world of him, because,
Speaker 2: as you know, I went to college with Jason. I'm
Speaker 2: still friendly with him, and I've asked him about, you know,
Speaker 2: guys on his staff for example, and he raves about him,
Speaker 2: says he's a phenomenal coach, just a great person to
Speaker 2: have on the staff and be around on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: And that's a ringing endorsement from somebody like Jason Kitt
Speaker 2: And as you look at the landscape now, it's ever
Speaker 2: changing landscape spence of college out We're just seeing more
Speaker 2: and more pro people have a connection and maybe looking
Speaker 2: to get into the college game. And whether it's for example,
Speaker 2: on the football side, with guys like Andrew Luck and
Speaker 2: Ron Rivera that are going back, they're not coaching, but
Speaker 2: they're going to be around the game. But with this
Speaker 2: nil and roster management we're seeing these days and free
Speaker 2: agency that is taking the college basketball land landscape by storm,
Speaker 2: it could possibly help having somebody with that pro experience
Speaker 2: and look, Kevin young down at BYU not only is
Speaker 2: having success this year, but let's face it, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of money right with BYU basketball, and to be
Speaker 2: able to acquire the talent that they have and the
Speaker 2: great freshman for example, demon and catchings they have this year,
Speaker 2: it took a lot of money to get those guys.
Speaker 2: And next year with de Bantha comes in, it's a
Speaker 2: huge amount of money that he's getting paid to go
Speaker 2: to BYU. That's the landscape you're operator now, and you
Speaker 2: have to find those resources. You have to find the revenue.
Speaker 2: And I know fran Frascilla put out a tweet, you know,
Speaker 2: my colleague at ESPN about the commitment that Utah financially
Speaker 2: needs to make and I'm not exactly sure where their
Speaker 2: NIL is, but my guess, just just knowing where some
Speaker 2: of the league is that they're probably in the bottom
Speaker 2: third as far as money that they're having their NIL
Speaker 2: collective for basketball. Does that change? I think that when
Speaker 2: you look at the scenario, you have to explore the
Speaker 2: entire landscape of where Utah basketball is at right now.
Speaker 2: You make this move with Craig Smith, that shows me
Speaker 2: that you're committed to winning. Well, there's more ways to
Speaker 2: show than just making a move like this that you
Speaker 2: committed to having success with your basketball program.
Speaker 1: Roxy Bernstein calls Adam Durretz Adam and Jason Kidd Jason
Speaker 1: just so you know you do you? Jason and Adam
Speaker 1: have like a text threat Roxy.
Speaker 2: They're on separate tech threats I have And by the way,
Speaker 2: I actually call him Jay Kid usually.
Speaker 1: Now, now there we go, give me the what's what's
Speaker 1: the mount rushmore of your most famous friends?
Speaker 2: Oh? I mean those are the top of the chain
Speaker 2: right there. I mean, certainly, Adam. Are you familiar with
Speaker 2: the actor Eric Dane?
Speaker 1: I know who Eric Dane is.
Speaker 2: Yes, Eric and I grew up together and we're still
Speaker 2: very close. In fact, we are fantasy football partners on
Speaker 2: our league that all our buddies grew up with.
Speaker 1: Wow. Very impressive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another one.
Speaker 1: Very impressive. What do you tell me what you're expecting?
Speaker 1: So Josh Eilert's the interim head coach and they're at
Speaker 1: McHale tomorrow and they're going to play an Arizona team
Speaker 1: that's probably a little bit grumpy. So Utah's first game
Speaker 1: without Craig is ada McHale against Arizona. How do you
Speaker 1: think these young men respond. They've got to be gutted.
Speaker 1: You know, you sign on the dotted line to play
Speaker 1: for a coach, your parents trust the coach to take
Speaker 1: care of the son. We know the deal. So how
Speaker 1: do you think they're going to respond? What are you
Speaker 1: expecting the McHale tomorrow night?
Speaker 2: First half, Arizona's going to be a little grumpy. Yes,
Speaker 2: that might be the understatement of the year because the
Speaker 2: way they lost that game to the UI the other night.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be extremely ticked off hitting in it this matchup,
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure. You never know what you're gonna get, right.
Speaker 2: It's easier to assess where a professional team is at
Speaker 2: after a move like this, whether it's a major league
Speaker 2: team that fires a manager mid season or an NBA
Speaker 2: team that makes the move like this, and they usually
Speaker 2: come out and respond because they take it personally and
Speaker 2: the connection that they have to Craig Smith. You wonder
Speaker 2: how it's resonating in the locker room right that. Do
Speaker 2: they feel they let Craig Smith down. It's certainly an
Speaker 2: emotional charge group right now, and you can't blame these
Speaker 2: are eighteen to twenty two, twenty three year old kids,
Speaker 2: and they're going to feel some empathy for Craig. They're
Speaker 2: going to be upset, and probably some of them are
Speaker 2: looking in the mirror wondering what could I have done
Speaker 2: better that could have kept Craig here. And so I
Speaker 2: would expect a team that's going to be emotionally charged.
Speaker 2: They're going to come out and ready to go tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: I fully expect that it's a good group of kids,
Speaker 2: and I think they'll try to play honestly for Craig
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, that they know they let him down, and
Speaker 2: in this way they can turn the page and help
Speaker 2: honor their coach by going out there with a high
Speaker 2: level performance against a terrific team in Arizona. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well said. And in order to be fair to Craig Roxy,
Speaker 1: I've asked all my guests this week this question, I'm
Speaker 1: going to ask you the same question. And I don't
Speaker 1: want this to come across as callous and I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to knock on the group, But you referenced where's
Speaker 1: the nil, where's the collective? What's the deal with that?
Speaker 1: We don't fully know? Catchings and demon reportedly are seven
Speaker 1: figure kids down at Brigham Young and aj Debants is
Speaker 1: getting more than five million dollars to play five months
Speaker 1: of basketball, So we know they've got a ticking down there,
Speaker 1: but whether it's nil and sadly, this also does fall
Speaker 1: partly on Craig. This team was picked to finish sixteenth
Speaker 1: in the conference for a reason. There's just not a
Speaker 1: ton of top shelf talent on that roster. And I
Speaker 1: actually think there's an argument to be made that Craig
Speaker 1: did a good job coaching a group that didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: have the raw talent that some of the other teams
Speaker 1: had to a situation where they did overshoot expectations based
Speaker 1: off the preseason poll. But as a guy that caused
Speaker 1: a lot of these games, how would you articulate what
Speaker 1: you believe the talent level is on this roster this year?
Speaker 2: The talent level is just like you said, near the
Speaker 2: bottom of the Big twelve. And there is a reason
Speaker 2: why they were picked in that position. For example, they
Speaker 2: don't have a dynamic point guard that could set people up.
Speaker 2: It was an offense that was able to score points
Speaker 2: because of ball movement and connectivity. Yes, Gate Madsen was
Speaker 2: the guy they were looking to to hit the big shot,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't. They didn't have that dynamic playmaker that
Speaker 2: they've had in the past, so that I think Craig
Speaker 2: came up with a good system that gave them chances
Speaker 2: for success. But at the same time, I get it
Speaker 2: when you're assessing your program, when you're Mark Harlan, you're
Speaker 2: the administration the University of Utah, you take a whole
Speaker 2: broad scope of it and you want the talent level better.
Speaker 2: There's good players in the program. I think Ezrasar is
Speaker 2: a really nice player, lost and lovering. I think it
Speaker 2: can be a really good player and it can really
Speaker 2: control a game of times from inside. But it just
Speaker 2: didn't seem there was the broad talent with his program.
Speaker 2: It's funny is I've also talked to some NBA people
Speaker 2: about Jake Wallen and there is a lot of feeling
Speaker 2: amongst the NBA people that he's got a chance maybe
Speaker 2: in a year or two, to be on the radar
Speaker 2: as far as the NBA team. So, but it's different
Speaker 2: kind of talent that they have with this group. But
Speaker 2: it just from when you look across the board of
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve, I just don't see the high level
Speaker 2: talent that Baylor has that Houston has, that Texas Tech
Speaker 2: has that. I think this is a down Kansas team,
Speaker 2: but they still have a lot of high level talent,
Speaker 2: and same with teams like Kansas State for example. So
Speaker 2: I think unfortunately, when you examine the program as a whole,
Speaker 2: I think that that's what the administration came back to.
Speaker 1: So you've got BYUASU, let's move over to BYU. So
Speaker 1: they'll be down at ASU tomorrow and back to back
Speaker 1: wins over ranked teams. First time that's happened. I think
Speaker 1: it's thirty seven years. They've won four straight. If you
Speaker 1: kind of expand back, they've won eight of their last ten.
Speaker 1: And when they make shots, they are a problem, and
Speaker 1: they are the type of team that is built. Should
Speaker 1: they find fire at the right time, which they're finding
Speaker 1: right now, they're the type of team they can go
Speaker 1: to the NCAA tournament and do something. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: this is a Final four team, but with the ability
Speaker 1: to make shots, when they are knocking down shots, when
Speaker 1: they're limiting turnovers, and when they're just hanging on the glass,
Speaker 1: they don't necessarily have to rebound teams because offensively they're
Speaker 1: so dynamic. It feels like you know, Demon's their best
Speaker 1: pro prospecs, but Richie's probably their best college player. And
Speaker 1: I've been tremendously impressed to see them settle in the
Speaker 1: way they have because it didn't look great early on,
Speaker 1: and Kevin's never done this before, so you have talent
Speaker 1: on paper. If it doesn't work early, people are gonna
Speaker 1: wonder if you can coach well. The late returns as well,
Speaker 1: I should say the returns as of late are that
Speaker 1: you know, this is a team that looks to be
Speaker 1: dialed in, ready to roll down the rest of the
Speaker 1: stretch of the season. What's your take on where we
Speaker 1: find ourselves right now with Brigham Young.
Speaker 2: They seem to be peaking at the right time, and
Speaker 2: that's what you want come latter part of February and
Speaker 2: into March, is you're playing your best basketball, and they are,
Speaker 2: and this team I think has gotten better and better
Speaker 2: in the crazy team spense. You don't see teams that
Speaker 2: have eleven man rotations at this time of the year,
Speaker 2: but BYU does and they all do something to help
Speaker 2: the team, and I think that's helped the chemistry with
Speaker 2: that group and getting used to a new coach in
Speaker 2: Kevin Young, tweaking the system a little bit where they
Speaker 2: shoot a lot of threes. You mentioned Richie Saunders, but
Speaker 2: he's not alone and he's made some moves along the way,
Speaker 2: like inserting Trevinell into the starting lineup. I think was
Speaker 2: a nice move for them to help space the floor
Speaker 2: and getting fu Seni Tria to accept the role in
Speaker 2: Dallen Hall coming off the bench because those guys had
Speaker 2: been starters, and it's a credit to them. It's a
Speaker 2: credit to that locker room that they're able to embrace
Speaker 2: what Kevin Young is doing. And they're catching teams at
Speaker 2: the right time. They caught Kansas the right time. Kansas
Speaker 2: was really after losing the game to Utah and they
Speaker 2: seemed a little bit dysfunctional at the time, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you. They got to get right game against
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State on Saturday. Then they bounced back and won
Speaker 2: a tough one at Colorado last night. But they're catching
Speaker 2: teams at the right time, and I think they're catching
Speaker 2: Arizona State tomorrow night. Potentially at the right time considering
Speaker 2: some of the injuries that ASU has. Jayden Quainton's got
Speaker 2: hurt in his last game. They're outstanding freshman. We're not
Speaker 2: sure if his status tomorrow night. And they just kicked
Speaker 2: BJ Freeman off the team who was their leading scorer.
Speaker 2: Yet they went out and won without them. So that's
Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting to see this matchup tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And Arizona State has not played well at home. They've
Speaker 2: been a better road team for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: Who do you think the second best team in the
Speaker 1: conference is?
Speaker 2: Who is the second best? I'm still gonna lean toward Arizona,
Speaker 2: I know, even they've they lost last night. Houston to me,
Speaker 2: has separated themselves and I do really like Iowa State,
Speaker 2: let me tell you right there. But there's something about
Speaker 2: this Arizona team. I'm anxious to see how they recovered
Speaker 2: tomorrow night against Utah after the way they had a real,
Speaker 2: real tough loss against BYU the other night.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a couple of hockey questions before
Speaker 1: I set you loose?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's move over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's move over to the Four Nations face off.
Speaker 1: You know, one of our weekly hockey guests is Neil Smith,
Speaker 1: who was the you know, the general manager of the
Speaker 1: Rangers and a high level scout for the Red Wings
Speaker 1: and had built some of the best rosters that we
Speaker 1: saw in the nineties. And we had Bill Armstrong on yesterday,
Speaker 1: and you know, it was funny with Neil, he said
Speaker 1: prior to the start of the tournament, I asked him
Speaker 1: we had him on the week that week, and I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got a little bit of break with a hockey
Speaker 1: club and we've got four Nations coming up? What do
Speaker 1: you think? And He's like, I'm out on it. I'm
Speaker 1: not like excited for it at all. And then of
Speaker 1: course we had him on last week and to his credit,
Speaker 1: he ate the appropriate crow. You know, Roxy, It's kind
Speaker 1: of a lesson man like, sometimes the best things in
Speaker 1: life just completely catch you off guard. And I was
Speaker 1: so wildly entertained, and as a NBA guy who was
Speaker 1: disgusted with a product that employees basketball players that don't
Speaker 1: seem to like to play basketball as of late, I
Speaker 1: loved watching the Four Nations. So give me your take
Speaker 1: on that tournament and what do you think it does
Speaker 1: for pro hockey domestically?
Speaker 2: Aside from the three fights and nine seconds in the
Speaker 2: first US Canada game, it was still tremendous theater, yep,
Speaker 2: and unbelievable hockey and just the reacts to the players
Speaker 2: that were playing and the speed of these games. That
Speaker 2: was the thing that really jumped out to me, is
Speaker 2: the quickness, and it's showing you that the game is
Speaker 2: about speed. Now, yes, okay, the Kachuck brothers flawed, and
Speaker 2: so did JT. Miller, but they also have a lot
Speaker 2: of speed and talent. And it was evident and I
Speaker 2: think it's only a precursor to how good the Olympics
Speaker 2: could be. Now. I don't think that we'll see a
Speaker 2: situation like we had with these fights, especially in the Olympics,
Speaker 2: but it does make for great hockey to watch, and
Speaker 2: I think we were treated to the best in the
Speaker 2: world at the best, and it was evident that it
Speaker 2: meant something. That it wasn't just lip service. Oh we're
Speaker 2: gonna go there and compete, We're going to play hard.
Speaker 2: It was clear that it meant the world and national
Speaker 2: pride was on display and they wanted to win desperately
Speaker 2: for their countries. And the only thing that would have
Speaker 2: made it a little bit more intriguing. Can you imagine
Speaker 2: if Matthew could Chuck had fought Sam Bennett. He made
Speaker 2: the Florida like right off the opening face off If
Speaker 2: that wouldn't signify how much it meant, I don't know
Speaker 2: what else would.
Speaker 1: And I love the back and forth where the Canadian,
Speaker 1: you know, the Hagen kid was like, we do it
Speaker 1: for the flag, they do it for the cameras. It's like,
Speaker 1: you like, the whole thing was awesome. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you about our local hockey club and I'll set you loose.
Speaker 1: You know, they're about where I think most people thought
Speaker 1: they would be, but with the chance to maybe catch
Speaker 1: either Vancouver or the Abs for a wildcard spot. They
Speaker 1: got Vancouver the other night they beat him, so nice
Speaker 1: little four point swing. Chicago's in town tonight twenty three,
Speaker 1: twenty four games left on the show bill. Armstrong yesterday
Speaker 1: said it's twenty four game sevens like points are at
Speaker 1: a premium. I think we got a shot to maybe
Speaker 1: see a little playoff hockey in Salt Lake this year.
Speaker 2: There's a chance. Yeah. I wouldn't rule them out. And
Speaker 2: they've recovered from some of the injuries that they have
Speaker 2: dealt with, certainly on the back end this year, with
Speaker 2: missing Schondersey example, until recently for the entire season and
Speaker 2: Marino being out for an extended period of time. They
Speaker 2: got to get hot and the margin frere in Bill
Speaker 2: Armstrong is exactly right. They have to treat every night
Speaker 2: like it's a game seven. And after they dropped the
Speaker 2: game to La on Saturday, bouncing back with a good
Speaker 2: win against Vancouver. And the other thing that was key
Speaker 2: about the win against Vancouver spence it wasn't an overtime
Speaker 2: or shootout win. It was in regulation. So a team
Speaker 2: you're chasing Vancouver, they didn't get a point. And in
Speaker 2: these matchups, when you're playing Calgary, these teams you're chasing,
Speaker 2: you're battling with, they can't be three point games. You've
Speaker 2: got to win it in regulation to make sure that
Speaker 2: the other team is not keeping pace with you. Because
Speaker 2: if you're trying to catch them your points behind, well
Speaker 2: yes you gain a point on them, but you're not
Speaker 2: really doing the job. And that's the way they have
Speaker 2: to step into it, and they have to take advantage
Speaker 2: of the schedule. The Blackhawks are a team that they
Speaker 2: need to handle that they need to put any doubt
Speaker 2: away early in this game, and that's the way they
Speaker 2: need to approach it. Then they have to be in
Speaker 2: that mentality and somehow if they can sneak in these
Speaker 2: are the teams that are dangerous come to Stanley Cup playoffs.
Speaker 2: We've seen eight seeds before in the NHL come from
Speaker 2: way back and win because they're in playoff mode already,
Speaker 2: and that could be an advantage for them should they
Speaker 2: be able to get to the Stanley Cup playoffs.
Speaker 1: Roxy, you are the man, my friend. I appreciate the time.
Speaker 1: Safe Travels have a great call tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Bett anytime.
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Speaker 1: nicest guys in this business, a business devoid of kindness.
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