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<v Speaker 1>If you've had a big foot siding it would like

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<v Speaker 1>to be a guest, Please go to bigfoot witness dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Jeff Luddington. I am It's from Eugene, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>I currently live in Oklahoma City. I've lived in thirty

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<v Speaker 2>seven states around the country. I traveled selling roofing when

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<v Speaker 2>I was younger and ended up traveling in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of places, so I got around the country a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>The only place I really didn't make it was the

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<v Speaker 2>East Coast or northern East Coast there in Dakotas. I

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<v Speaker 2>really kind of would like to go there. So I

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<v Speaker 2>also currently been through a lot of surgery, so I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been working a lot in ore getting out to

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<v Speaker 2>go squatching a big footing out in the areas I

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<v Speaker 2>like to go. Some of my conversations lately have ben

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a place called Sulfur, Oklahoma. It's well

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<v Speaker 2>known well I've heard that there's five different tribes of

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<v Speaker 2>bigfoot around Sulfur area. It's a giant park. It has

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<v Speaker 2>fresh springs of water, which they love. If anybody knows

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<v Speaker 2>anything about bigfoot at all, you'll know that. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you have a spring on your property, go looking for footprints,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what the gentleman from Washington did who died.

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<v Speaker 2>But his video got out there because he stalked that

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<v Speaker 2>spring because he knew they were drinking out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They love that spring water. So anybody interested in catching

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<v Speaker 2>one on a video, put it to your non infrared.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't like infrared, we found out, So yeah, just

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<v Speaker 2>take put a tape, put a little belief piece of

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<v Speaker 2>black tape over your infrared on your camera and take

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<v Speaker 2>care of it. But these cameras once they hear your

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<v Speaker 2>car coming up the road, and it only takes I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I mean the hearing. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>speculation of them having spotters is specially if we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that enough enough about him to know that. I

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<v Speaker 2>say we because I am up on everything. I've you know,

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<v Speaker 2>texted Melvic tetch him the other day. Doctor her and

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on with her and all the slanderous stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that happened to her and how terrible it was for her.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if anybody knows her name, but

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<v Speaker 2>her her history is I've got a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>touching base with some of the testing that went on

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<v Speaker 2>when her lab tested DNA. From what I found out

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<v Speaker 2>is there's actually a dog man and a big DNA,

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<v Speaker 2>both of them exists. I didn't see the reports myself,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I can't say that I read anything. I just

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<v Speaker 2>this is second head knowledge. But I had been in

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<v Speaker 2>contact with the person over the years named Stan Courtney,

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<v Speaker 2>who is also a BFR investigator for the BFRO for

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<v Speaker 2>the state of Illinois. He covers well his goal, he

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<v Speaker 2>told me, and Stan was from my home home state

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<v Speaker 2>of Oregon, Oregon. He grew up in a college of

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<v Speaker 2>seven years older than I was. But anyway, he his

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<v Speaker 2>goal for the state of Illinois was to document a

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<v Speaker 2>bigfoot sighting in every county of Illinois, and he is

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<v Speaker 2>on a roll. I didn't look at his map lately,

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<v Speaker 2>but anybody wants to go check out stan stite, feel

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<v Speaker 2>free because a lot of things that Stan's done is

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<v Speaker 2>very good information. It's free information for y'all to go

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<v Speaker 2>and look at and listen to. Because Stan was an

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<v Speaker 2>audio expert. Stan Courtney was on one of the Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>BFROO shows where they interviewed him and he played a

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<v Speaker 2>sound recording he had caught up in the Springfield, Illinois area,

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<v Speaker 2>and actually one of the news channels ran it on

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<v Speaker 2>their starters, the news channel, the beginning of every news channel,

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<v Speaker 2>and the evening news. So I thought that was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>You can still hear it if you want to put

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<v Speaker 2>in Springfield Howler. I think it's called because there was

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<v Speaker 2>an Ohio Howler call that was out there for years

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<v Speaker 2>and years and it's an odd one. But this one

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<v Speaker 2>similar but not the same. None of them are ever

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<v Speaker 2>the same. These creatures very just like people. When I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid in Oregon, I my parents were very active.

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<v Speaker 2>We snowski, we were fished in lakes, We went to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, rivers fishing. We were up cracking dawn every day,

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<v Speaker 2>like in the summer doing something. It was just as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid. It was on their run constantly. With my parents,

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<v Speaker 2>they were very active. But the other thing about my parents,

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<v Speaker 2>they were young. My mother had me into eighteen, so

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<v Speaker 2>that made it very fun. I mean not for me actually,

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<v Speaker 2>but for them. I remember sitting in forest alone, Dad saying,

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<v Speaker 2>sit right here on the stuff for a bit, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back. You know, it's just stick forest around me.

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<v Speaker 2>And now that the stories I hear about missing children,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, gees, you know, I could have been one

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<v Speaker 2>of them kids, you know, the Missing four to one one.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I grew up snow skiing and we used

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<v Speaker 2>to go these Warren Miller ski movies. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if anybody's seen these movies, but there's some spectacular ski

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<v Speaker 2>movies to watch. There's slow motion most of them. There's

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<v Speaker 2>great background music. It's all choreographed, really fine filming. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so so nice. We used to see watched, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>every time it came out. It was in a theater,

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<v Speaker 2>a stand up theater. One time I remember there. We

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<v Speaker 2>were watching it. It probably thirty minutes, and after it ended,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody still stood there and I was thinking, oh, we're leaving.

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<v Speaker 2>That was probably five. I don't remember the age exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>but it had just come out. And prior to this,

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<v Speaker 2>at some point, my dad had the Theerra sounds on

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<v Speaker 2>a recording at home. Back in shoot. I was five,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was sixty two, you know, sixty seven we're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at My dad was heavily. He had a recording

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<v Speaker 2>you see her sounds. You know. I wish I had

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<v Speaker 2>asked Ron Warhead when I met him, and he knew

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<v Speaker 2>somebody from Oregon, because he sure got that thing out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and also while I'm standing in the standards,

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<v Speaker 2>here comes the Patty film, the black and white Patty

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<v Speaker 2>film played there right in front of us. And I

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<v Speaker 2>have to tell you know, I've told this before, but

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<v Speaker 2>the reaction from the crowd. You know, there's probably fifty

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred people in this packed room, and as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as you saw her body coming across the screen and

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<v Speaker 2>my eyes, you know, I don't know if I did

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. I just remember the whole room going.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just an inhale like that. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>I remember as a child thinking, oh God, this thing Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>Because my parents, you know, they stand around talking to

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<v Speaker 2>their friends in a heavy conversation, and i'd hear later

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<v Speaker 2>or I wanted to know exactly what was going on,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd go over and ask my mom. So you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just talking about it big hairy man who lives

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<v Speaker 2>in the forest. If you go back to a conversation. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that conversation later on, I found out was about their friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were very heavily. They were like for of

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<v Speaker 2>them just jammed together, just rattling away about this story.

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<v Speaker 2>And their friends had come around the corner in Crow, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>off a Crow road, just outside of Eugene, towards the coast,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of towards the coast, and they lived out in

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<v Speaker 2>the mountains. They had built a log cabin, had a

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<v Speaker 2>real nice place. Anyway, they were coming home and on

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<v Speaker 2>this tea road you know where the road came to,

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<v Speaker 2>not a tea road, I'm sorry, a ninety degree turn.

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<v Speaker 2>There stood behind the guardrail what they described to my

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<v Speaker 2>parents as a large, hairy, giant, humanoid looking creature that

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<v Speaker 2>ran off. So when I heard that, my ears as

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<v Speaker 2>a child perk up, you know, because I'm out forest.

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<v Speaker 2>I was fishing with my parents all the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'd never had a fear I even though I'd

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<v Speaker 2>seen this video of this preacher. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>got a little older, and later on went to the

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<v Speaker 2>state fair. Was about I guess I was about ten,

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<v Speaker 2>and my mom had dropped me off, and never forget it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to find my friends and I was

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<v Speaker 2>on the back of aisle of some tent and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking later on this guy was stuck in the back aisle.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't put him out front, but come to find

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<v Speaker 2>out later on, this was the Minnesota Iceman that I

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<v Speaker 2>had encountered at the fair of that time. And the

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<v Speaker 2>guy it was the guy I've seen pictures of him.

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<v Speaker 2>They showed his pictures. It was the man who originally

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<v Speaker 2>owned this body from wherever he got it. The story's

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<v Speaker 2>buried for the iceman, and you can look those up

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<v Speaker 2>and read them, tons of them. But I got to

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<v Speaker 2>see this thing up close, and that's the closest I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever been to Bigfoot, to tell you the truth, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a big foot, and to me, the size of

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<v Speaker 2>it looked juvenile. The junk wasn't very big, the eye

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<v Speaker 2>sockets weren't as big as the one I saw staring

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<v Speaker 2>at me one night for twenty minutes. There was blood

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<v Speaker 2>in the eye socket. The hand was up on the

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<v Speaker 2>forehead above the head. I think it was the right

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<v Speaker 2>or left hand. I'm not sure. The other one was down.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how the hands were situated exactly. From now,

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<v Speaker 2>all I remember was the ice was kind of thick

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a little blurry, but you could see

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<v Speaker 2>the hair was very thin on this ice man creature.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember he said, hey, you want to see

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<v Speaker 2>a monster. I looked up at him, thinking, yeah, why not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the fair, right it's safe. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not somebody's gonna jump out. I think at first I

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<v Speaker 2>thought he had because up on the wall of the

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<v Speaker 2>booth and it was one of those you know, traveling

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<v Speaker 2>trackling truck things. They had a little walkway, you know

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<v Speaker 2>when you flip everything open and then you got your

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<v Speaker 2>your booth open and everybody can walk up the walkway. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it was real thin stairway, but up on the wall

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<v Speaker 2>to the right, to the left, there was a giant

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<v Speaker 2>nine foot claws and fangs, bigfoot with blood, I think

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<v Speaker 2>even dripping from the teeth. I looked at that, thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what I saw in the creek, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at the theater, you know, the black and white one.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm thinking that looks nothing like what we saw.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do anything like that, you know. So the

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<v Speaker 2>sensationalism that he was blasting out on his trailer was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty pretty comical. And a lot of this I find comical.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry I have to left, but I'll try and

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<v Speaker 2>tell that down. Yeah, the Iceman, Minnesota. Iceman was probably

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<v Speaker 2>the closest. I have to say. Well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>exactly because the night that I was closest to and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you in a bit when we get to that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was alone in the dark two thur in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning and the crisp November twenty third. It was

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<v Speaker 2>about you know, no leaves or crunchy. Well it was

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<v Speaker 2>very cold. Anyway, Uh, I want to get your adrenaline going.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time you go out to do this, get your

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<v Speaker 2>adrenaline going. This is one thing that it attracts a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people do this. It's not me. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what attracts me to this is that I a

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<v Speaker 2>kind of realization I do not want to see this

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<v Speaker 2>thing close up, face to face. But is that what

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to take. I just was talking to our

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<v Speaker 2>host and telling him earlier that I had a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to speak to this creature and or one of them

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<v Speaker 2>that I had been encountering in Illinois at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 2>I uh, will that one gets me going anyway? Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just tell that one. I really it was my

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<v Speaker 2>only encounter alone and I never will do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll just give this advice to everyone listening to

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how new you are. You all been to this,

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<v Speaker 2>this story, this stuff, but you know this, it's anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah So my encounters started in the bottom of Illinois

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<v Speaker 2>for months and one day I've been watching something on

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<v Speaker 2>the bf R and I said, hey, yeah, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>hear the story. He says, what it wasn't We weren't

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<v Speaker 2>on the clock. You were just sitting there drinking some coffee,

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for the clock, and you just start working. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I was listening to this, watching this, reading this story

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<v Speaker 2>on the b f R about these recent fires in California,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was recent. You know that he knew what

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking about. In Menncino County and out there

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<v Speaker 2>there were tons of fires going on back and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I guess it was ninety I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to guess. Anyway, the story came out of Mennsino County

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<v Speaker 2>and how it went was, there's thirteen cars in this

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<v Speaker 2>freeway five later and how came this bigfoot running out

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<v Speaker 2>on two legs out in front of this guy. He

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<v Speaker 2>was the first car. He was the one that reported it,

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<v Speaker 2>but he said there was over thirteen cars behind him

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<v Speaker 2>that had stopped to see this thing. Crossing the freeway

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<v Speaker 2>and the smoke it came out of the fire area,

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<v Speaker 2>had this California fire and it had to crossed the

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<v Speaker 2>freeway from anyway. So I tell the story, and all

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he gets real quiet, and he didn't say anything,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't say oh, that's neither wow, that's we didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>call him that. He just I seen him kind of

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<v Speaker 2>go back, you know. And that's what happened to people

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<v Speaker 2>when you start mentioning these things, is that an encounter

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<v Speaker 2>by the river turns into an encountered by the river.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't really the neighbors throwing rocks that team, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was one of these creatures because it followed you

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<v Speaker 2>down there. They can hear you coming miles away, and

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<v Speaker 2>so many newer cars are quiet. Yeah, but they still

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<v Speaker 2>can't hear things. They're very good. They're hearings. Are hearings

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<v Speaker 2>very good. But he starts to tell me this. I

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<v Speaker 2>got to tell you something. I said, Okay. He says,

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<v Speaker 2>down by the river. I said, you mean down right

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<v Speaker 2>down here by the river, right and down in the

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<v Speaker 2>city limits. He's like, yeah, I said, okay. He says, well,

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<v Speaker 2>my wife and I her argue and then we Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I took off go talk to my mom. She lives.

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<v Speaker 2>She lived right across the river from the railroad tracks.

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<v Speaker 2>He was right there. You can see the river from

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<v Speaker 2>her house. Nice brand new two story, you know, half

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollar brick home he built on this cult

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<v Speaker 2>the sack right by this well. It was a big

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<v Speaker 2>foot hangout to what I'm gonna call it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>used to go there. I mean, when I found out

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<v Speaker 2>it was hanging out there, and it would just not

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<v Speaker 2>go away. And this is what made me think these

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<v Speaker 2>creatures are not that elusive. I thought this one might

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<v Speaker 2>be retarded. I mean, as many times as it wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to tell me it was down there in the ways

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<v Speaker 2>it did. I'm not stupid, and I'm not I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I have some what death, I do have my dumb moments,

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<v Speaker 2>but when it comes to these creatures in the wild,

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<v Speaker 2>I have not the greatest of ears. So I have

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<v Speaker 2>to tell people sometimes, hey, man, if he hears something,

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<v Speaker 2>and let me know. And sure enough, that happened one

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<v Speaker 2>time down there, there's four of us walking out of

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<v Speaker 2>that Saint Mary where I first he had encountered and

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<v Speaker 2>you go to his his uh actually encounter I had,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, encouraged him to report it, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>I was into the BFRO at the time, and Stan

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<v Speaker 2>Courtney was, you know, a guy I ran into through

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<v Speaker 2>this story and it was BFR report number two four

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<v Speaker 2>nine ninety seven out of Clinton County, Illinois. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you go back to read that story, you'll find the details.

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<v Speaker 2>But once there was some details that aren't in the

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<v Speaker 2>story that I'll say now I may encourage you to

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<v Speaker 2>read the story because he told me that he could

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<v Speaker 2>not put in there that he saw two hands rise

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<v Speaker 2>above its head that looks human, two arms that looked human.

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<v Speaker 2>They were extremely long. But his encounter was a scream.

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<v Speaker 2>He got roared at and it scared him to death.

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<v Speaker 2>It scared him so bad. I could barely get him

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<v Speaker 2>to go down there in the daytime, but I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>him and Stan and I to go down there and

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<v Speaker 2>see the tree that this thing had leaped out of.

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<v Speaker 2>When it screamed at him, it had raised its arm

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<v Speaker 2>above his head, straight up above its head. It had

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<v Speaker 2>its back to him. But when it looked over at him,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how these things turned their heads with

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<v Speaker 2>the way their structure is, but it must have been

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<v Speaker 2>facing him, because later on I figured out this tree

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<v Speaker 2>was facing down to the spillway where the dam was,

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<v Speaker 2>and it must have had a girlfriend, because either that

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<v Speaker 2>it was watching the fish hit the water and then

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for him to come by, and then I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>that seems like a quarter mile away to be watching.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did find out that there was a there

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<v Speaker 2>was a family of them on the other side. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a few things I can tell you. I know why.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that there's some people that I ran into

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<v Speaker 2>delivering some food over there. One night. I knew there

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<v Speaker 2>was something going on down this ditch, and I told

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<v Speaker 2>the guy hang, but this thing screamed at him and

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<v Speaker 2>scared him to death. He ran home, and he only

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<v Speaker 2>lived a quarter mile down the river there or by

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<v Speaker 2>the lake. This is my big lake called the Lake

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<v Speaker 2>Carlisle in Illinois, and this lake's twelve miles long. And

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<v Speaker 2>I found these creatures clear to the end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They were way up top on the very very start

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<v Speaker 2>where the water come into the lake. I used to well,

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<v Speaker 2>I was drawn there by a story called the Hairy

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<v Speaker 2>Lady Bridge. I'm like I found this out from some

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<v Speaker 2>teenagers that well, they were grown high schoolers that had

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<v Speaker 2>told me the story through the high school that lay

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<v Speaker 2>the screaming Hairy Lady Bridge. I'm like, huh, what I

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<v Speaker 2>could believe it? I was stunned. I'm like, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even believe that. I ran upon this story and then

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<v Speaker 2>I started running into the witnesses. I cracked him down

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<v Speaker 2>and got first hand account to what happened. So this

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<v Speaker 2>story never even made it to the bfrro, never made

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<v Speaker 2>it online. And it's an awesome story. But this counter,

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<v Speaker 2>the first encounter that drewny to that area was from

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<v Speaker 2>my friend and this guy work us. So he ran

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<v Speaker 2>home and scared to death. And it was the BFR

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<v Speaker 2>Report two four nine ninety seven if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>read it, because it's his story. But the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>he left out was some hands going above the head.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing he left out was I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember that. I'll have to bring it back. But the

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<v Speaker 2>hands above the head he couldn't tell because he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. When I saw it leaping away from me,

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like a deer, and that's kind of an

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<v Speaker 2>impress Well, when I told him what I saw later

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<v Speaker 2>months later I told him about my counter, he started

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<v Speaker 2>lappen because I said, this looked like butt cheeks and

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<v Speaker 2>legs sing away from us. And I've described it as that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a character from Looney Tunes, the Harry, but

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<v Speaker 2>with the eyes and the red Tennessees from Bugs, Bunny's buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't forget his name alien anyway, you

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<v Speaker 2>know a guy I'm talking about. So I joke about

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<v Speaker 2>it because that's really kind of all we saw. But

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<v Speaker 2>I find it fascinating also because this creature was doing

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<v Speaker 2>some ninja moves that I'd never heard of anybody talking

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<v Speaker 2>about during bigfoot encounters. So I was a little reluctant

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<v Speaker 2>to tell the story. But then I got to think of, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta tell them. We are people out there encountering

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<v Speaker 2>these creatures, and we're there for a reason. Is to

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<v Speaker 2>tell what happened, because other people may encounter this and have,

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<v Speaker 2>oh a breakthrough. Whoa, he saw the same thing. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like I was seeing things. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mind telling the truth, and I don't mind the

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<v Speaker 2>exact true, and I don't care. I don't care what

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<v Speaker 2>people say to me. I don't care what they think.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing this long enough, just like Rickyochet is

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<v Speaker 2>off my back, do you too? Thank you for giving

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<v Speaker 2>me the opportunity to tell you something about what you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know? You know, And if they listen, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's great. But if they don't, then I walk away.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to force anybody to be a believer

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<v Speaker 2>in in this crazy line of stuff that I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I My first thought when I he told

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<v Speaker 2>me his story about it screaming at him, was oh lord,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And more happened to him later, This thing

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<v Speaker 2>had followed him home. And I'll tell you what happened later.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so this proceeded into three months later. I

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<v Speaker 2>get out there on fortunly, get off work on Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's fortunely weekend, and I think fortunely was

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<v Speaker 2>that set like Saturday, and we just happened to I

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<v Speaker 2>got off work at eleven, and I went over to

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<v Speaker 2>my friend's house and we drank a couple of Hiller

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<v Speaker 2>lights and I got their courage up. They got their

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<v Speaker 2>courage up. All of a sudden, we're into the bridge

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<v Speaker 2>where the river tracks are where he is encounter. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>taking them down there. We were heading over the we

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<v Speaker 2>get down there, we head over the river tracks just

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<v Speaker 2>like he did illegally. There's still live rabo tracks. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they were tracks and you can get caught on.

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<v Speaker 2>It was i'd say a hundred feet long. It'd be

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<v Speaker 2>a run, but you could see straight down along with distances,

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<v Speaker 2>so we weren't worried about You could see a light

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<v Speaker 2>coming and you had plenty of time to get across.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's still harry And the hairiest part was no flashlights.

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<v Speaker 2>I never use flashlights doing this people. If you do,

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<v Speaker 2>you just chase them away. They don't like lights. Go

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<v Speaker 2>in there like them. They feel more comfortable. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you repeat your actions in your area or your house

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<v Speaker 2>behind her, whatever you're doing, just keep your key the

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<v Speaker 2>same actions. Don't don't be meandering around looking for their

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<v Speaker 2>prints and all that yet. Just let's get to know

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<v Speaker 2>their area, you know area, and just let them feel

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable with you. That's what I figured out is that

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<v Speaker 2>I had to keep doing the same thing over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I did was when I went with people

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<v Speaker 2>down there after my first encounter and I'll get to die,

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<v Speaker 2>I would do that. I just repeat the same actions

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<v Speaker 2>over and over with different people, which led to you

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<v Speaker 2>my last encounter being alone with it and that scared

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<v Speaker 2>me to death because I thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>kill me because I took so many people down there.

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<v Speaker 2>But my next encounter going down there, I mean or

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<v Speaker 2>me going down with these people over the road tracks.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a kid named j d. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen year old high school student and a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>I Chris, no last name, but so we head over

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<v Speaker 2>and I asked Chris to record. I said, hey, turn

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<v Speaker 2>on your iphe want to record this. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>did audio, he didn't do any video. Unfortunately, if he

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<v Speaker 2>would have switched his audio over to recording at the

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<v Speaker 2>moment we needed it, it would have been amazing to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Because what happened after we got over there was the

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<v Speaker 2>three of us walked over and went to I realized

416
00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:21.559
<v Speaker 2>that the water from the dam had been opened, so

417
00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:24.119
<v Speaker 2>there was water down there. I couldn't do what my

418
00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:27.119
<v Speaker 2>friend had done. He had gone down the rift wrap,

419
00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:29.599
<v Speaker 2>gone down underneath the tracks and walked on the ground

420
00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:33.000
<v Speaker 2>down there. But this time the bridge had opened, that

421
00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:35.920
<v Speaker 2>the dam had been opened, so the and then later

422
00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:38.079
<v Speaker 2>on I figured out why this thing was hanging out there,

423
00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:40.319
<v Speaker 2>and this was one of the reasons is because the

424
00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:43.799
<v Speaker 2>dam opens and the water rises in the spot, and

425
00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I started analyzing my spot later on, but I'll get

426
00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:52.319
<v Speaker 2>to that. So, uh, we realized, you know, I'm a

427
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:54.440
<v Speaker 2>little upset because I wanted to go down and walk

428
00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:56.200
<v Speaker 2>on the ground and have it scream atters. That's what

429
00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I was looking forward to. What I didn't understand by

430
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:02.039
<v Speaker 2>looking is that the tree wasn't very far from where

431
00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:06.079
<v Speaker 2>we were standing where he went down on the opposite side.

432
00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:07.920
<v Speaker 2>But he may have been real quiet and it just

433
00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:12.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't hear him. Anyway, it was up on this tree

434
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:16.640
<v Speaker 2>fifteen to twelve we measured there was twelve thirteen twelve

435
00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:19.440
<v Speaker 2>to thirteen foot up where it was sitting hunched over.

436
00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>He said it was when he saw it was standing up.

437
00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:27.079
<v Speaker 2>It well, it stood up, but he said, I don't know.

438
00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:29.400
<v Speaker 2>He didn't really say. Maybe he says in the story

439
00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:35.640
<v Speaker 2>yet to be a Furr report, but anyway, he anyway,

440
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:39.960
<v Speaker 2>so I'm a little upset at that point. I'm saying, well,

441
00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:44.880
<v Speaker 2>let's go, let's head that. And I said, first, let's

442
00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:46.599
<v Speaker 2>walk to where the tree is. Let's get in line

443
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:47.880
<v Speaker 2>with the tree and look over there and see if

444
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:50.480
<v Speaker 2>we can see anything or if we see in the water.

445
00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:53.119
<v Speaker 2>It was so much water that water. When it rose

446
00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.680
<v Speaker 2>in there was just noisy. There was a little sticks wobbling,

447
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:59.440
<v Speaker 2>leaves and things dripping, and it's just making tons of

448
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:02.279
<v Speaker 2>noise down still, it was very whiet. Otherwise there's no

449
00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:09.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't make foot without silence. Just a little fyi. People,

450
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:11.599
<v Speaker 2>you understand what I mean. If you ever get out there,

451
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:16.000
<v Speaker 2>you're going to say, wow, this is terrible. These trees

452
00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:19.279
<v Speaker 2>are creaking and the wind is blowing and I can't

453
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:22.319
<v Speaker 2>hear anything, and you will turn around go home, and

454
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:24.359
<v Speaker 2>you'll never go back if you don't try again when

455
00:25:24.359 --> 00:25:26.839
<v Speaker 2>it's quiet and you have to go. And just a

456
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.559
<v Speaker 2>little recommendation, go after the bar's clothes, Go after the

457
00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:35.000
<v Speaker 2>traffic stop. Go during a weekday on a Wednesday at

458
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>two thirty when nobody's out in school days, schools, people

459
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.440
<v Speaker 2>are at school and people work and they're sleeping. You know,

460
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:46.039
<v Speaker 2>don't don't think that you anyway. Don't go alone. There's

461
00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>my only thing to tell you. But little joke. Right.

462
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.759
<v Speaker 2>But so here we are and I'm looking where he

463
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.799
<v Speaker 2>had seen it leap out of this tree. I didn't

464
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:01.480
<v Speaker 2>see anything. So we had back standing on the trestles,

465
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:05.359
<v Speaker 2>the railroad trestles where he had come over and there's

466
00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:08.119
<v Speaker 2>these pillars under there, and there's probably I don't know

467
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:10.759
<v Speaker 2>five six of them are giant. This trestle was made

468
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:13.880
<v Speaker 2>and hundred ye over one hundred years ago, and evidently

469
00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:16.240
<v Speaker 2>there was a story about the train's head on at

470
00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:20.119
<v Speaker 2>this intersection. I don't know some story about ghosts, so

471
00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I think it has to do with big Foot. So

472
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:23.880
<v Speaker 2>if you have me ghost stories out there, people and

473
00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:26.400
<v Speaker 2>looks them up, man, because I see, I'll tell you

474
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:28.559
<v Speaker 2>some other hints about these ghost shows that I've been

475
00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:32.519
<v Speaker 2>seeing on TV and what you see on these lots

476
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:34.519
<v Speaker 2>of good stuff about big Foot on the ghost shows.

477
00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:38.000
<v Speaker 2>So I'll talk about that a little bit. So back

478
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:40.400
<v Speaker 2>to the pillars. So these pillars are very vital in

479
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>the situation because I had these pillars come into another

480
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:46.039
<v Speaker 2>case where I took somebody down there and the pillar

481
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:49.000
<v Speaker 2>it jumped up on a pillar. And the only reason

482
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I know that is because I seen the big toe

483
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>it leaped off. And these says are so strong, you know.

484
00:26:54.920 --> 00:27:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I had a guy Robert Krider on line of a

485
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of people know that name Robert Creiter. He was

486
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:10.799
<v Speaker 2>he had photoed and measured footprints that went from running

487
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:18.400
<v Speaker 2>to sprinting and turned into the running from foot, you know,

488
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.400
<v Speaker 2>a whole foot to two or three toes at thirty

489
00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.799
<v Speaker 2>feet a leap. So it's a pretty cool story. You

490
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:29.680
<v Speaker 2>love Robert Crider on out there. He's a great research

491
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:32.079
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, he gets to some great stuff out

492
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:36.039
<v Speaker 2>there in New Mexico. So in the New Mexico four

493
00:27:36.119 --> 00:27:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Corners areas where he's I think he's a treasure hunder.

494
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>But Robert Crider is very popular right now. So anyway,

495
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:44.480
<v Speaker 2>I like talking about him because he has some good stuff.

496
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:49.279
<v Speaker 2>But he's been close to him too, and I don't

497
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:51.279
<v Speaker 2>know about a loan. Usually he doesn't go alone. I

498
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:56.920
<v Speaker 2>think he's his girlfriend goes with them most of the times.

499
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.240
<v Speaker 2>He's the camera girling. That's great because I wish I

500
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:01.160
<v Speaker 2>had one that would have and even better stuff I have,

501
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I could have got some actual things on recorded. I'm

502
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.319
<v Speaker 2>terrible at just trying to do this and record with

503
00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>my adrenaline. Am I shaking? Anyway? I've gone out recorded things.

504
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:17.319
<v Speaker 2>It's just very subtle daytime stuff. But the things I've

505
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>been through that they didn't get videoed or pictures of

506
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:23.839
<v Speaker 2>are the hairy, scary stuff I actually got one, the

507
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:27.880
<v Speaker 2>hairy arius and scariest. The lone incident was recorded. I

508
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:31.640
<v Speaker 2>do have that. I might even have pulled it up.

509
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we can do another day. I actually have it recorded,

510
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and I'll tell you what happened there. But let me

511
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:41.440
<v Speaker 2>get to that. So here we are standing on one

512
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.000
<v Speaker 2>of these pillars, these giant pillars, underneath the road tracks.

513
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Three of us. One kid's facing towards the freeway. There's

514
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>two lane the highway fifty there goes. He's looking at

515
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.400
<v Speaker 2>the boat docks in the lake or the spillway and

516
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>the dam. We're looking downstream. There's nothing to see and

517
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.319
<v Speaker 2>just set for the reflects to the moon or whatever

518
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:05.279
<v Speaker 2>was going on. But we're standing there and we're just listening.

519
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:10.359
<v Speaker 2>And the water traveling under us was probably I'm guesstimating

520
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.279
<v Speaker 2>seven to eight feet maybe ten to the ground, but

521
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 2>eight feet to the water. I have a guess in

522
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:19.960
<v Speaker 2>the water was two feet up. I'm not sure because

523
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.559
<v Speaker 2>I never got down in it. But from seeing this

524
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 2>thing's legs tapering into the water, and it's still another

525
00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:31.119
<v Speaker 2>estimation and skeptic. I can I can't do that kind

526
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>of thing. I have to what I see is I

527
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:37.319
<v Speaker 2>take so we're standing on the second pillar. And the

528
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 2>unbelievable part is later on I realized it's under our feet.

529
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:44.039
<v Speaker 2>It's literally hiding underneath the pillar, on the pillar, underneath

530
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the trestles, under our feet. And this blew me away

531
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.039
<v Speaker 2>later on, because you know, you don't realize it at

532
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:53.400
<v Speaker 2>the time, but the indications were all there. The kid

533
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 2>next to me says, I hear some I guess you hear.

534
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>He goes, I don't know which people do that bill

535
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>to say they hear something, I don't know. I said,

536
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:06.440
<v Speaker 2>we'll describe it. It's like dripping. So so the guy

537
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>next to me says the same thing. I said, what

538
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 2>are you hearing? He goes a lot of dripping. So

539
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>there you go. He was standing, his feet were hanging

540
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:18.640
<v Speaker 2>over this. You know, he just climbed down. The water

541
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 2>up on top of the trestle is hiding it. He's

542
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.519
<v Speaker 2>probably looking between the trestles, looking right at our faces

543
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 2>standing there. And I was so freaked out about knowing

544
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:29.599
<v Speaker 2>this later on, because I wish I would have known.

545
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Of course, if i'd have figured it out, but it

546
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:35.680
<v Speaker 2>was too late because by the time the dripping. As

547
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:40.880
<v Speaker 2>soon as he said, lots of dripping, I said, so

548
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't didn't. I was just listening. You know. We're

549
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.000
<v Speaker 2>stand there listening, and all of a sudden there's a

550
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 2>giant splash blows right, blow us, I mean drinking blows

551
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>and I jump. He jumped, well, just got jumped, and

552
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>within me saying that was below us because yes, before

553
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.079
<v Speaker 2>he could finish the word yes, I see two, but

554
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.400
<v Speaker 2>cheeks land out in my eyes at the edge of

555
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:05.960
<v Speaker 2>the trustles. I drew a picture of this. It's no

556
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 2>camera's going at this moment. There's an audio on aiphone going,

557
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.960
<v Speaker 2>and if he would have kept that, so much information

558
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:17.119
<v Speaker 2>and stuff gets lost. So I'm telling you, whenning you're

559
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>there at the moment, get the audio from somebody's phone

560
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:24.119
<v Speaker 2>if you can get it right then, and start your

561
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:25.960
<v Speaker 2>audio when you get out your vehicles, because these things

562
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 2>will know you're there and they will scream immediately. So

563
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:31.319
<v Speaker 2>always start your audio before you get out your vehicles.

564
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Cameras too, highly recommend it. You may catch more stuff anyway. Wow,

565
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>this really gets me going on. I talked about these

566
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:45.480
<v Speaker 2>stories down there. Yeah, Terry Harry, you know this stuff

567
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:49.119
<v Speaker 2>isn't for the lighthearted. I have to tell you. I

568
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.480
<v Speaker 2>have a weak card anymore, and I can't go out anight,

569
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I used to in the last ten

570
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:01.319
<v Speaker 2>years ago. Geez. It's just from what I know and

571
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.640
<v Speaker 2>what I read in the last you know, twelve years.

572
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm just see, I am not going, especially by myself.

573
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>But it's hard to get people to go. They don't believe,

574
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:15.240
<v Speaker 2>especially in the city limits. My site is Okay see

575
00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Urban Bigfoot group on Facebook. Oklahoma City every Day group

576
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 2>on Facebook is where I put my stories.

577
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I put videos. I have little antadodial or just stories

578
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:32.519
<v Speaker 3>and you know things I run into people and I'm

579
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 3>gonna telling a few of them here.

580
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.039
<v Speaker 2>There's some recent ones down there dinner coming out to

581
00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the Stenscombe area called the White Witch, and I mentioned

582
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:43.839
<v Speaker 2>that later. I have met somebody personally that was sleeping

583
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:47.160
<v Speaker 2>at the river, a homeless person, Spanish guy who told

584
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>me he ran into this white witch, which was He

585
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:54.559
<v Speaker 2>called it blanco, you know Spanish, blanco means white. I said,

586
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 2>pointed in my skin, I said, me white like me.

587
00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 2>He said, well, it was dirty colored, you know. But

588
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>he said it went by him and he started to

589
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>say hi to it because he was sleeping. He didn't

590
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>know what it was. He just went by. It was tall, big,

591
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:12.640
<v Speaker 2>he said it was being tall, but he just automatically ola,

592
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, or I don't know what he said to it.

593
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:16.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember. He didn't tell me. But the white

594
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Witch story, it's it's a good one. You can catch

595
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.960
<v Speaker 2>it on well. You know. The last person I went

596
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:28.680
<v Speaker 2>out with was Brian Treuell from Red Dirt Cryptids and

597
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.519
<v Speaker 2>his you know, his stuff's about the dog man. But

598
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.519
<v Speaker 2>he likes the big for of course, and he's he's

599
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.839
<v Speaker 2>a stinchcomb wildlife for that. He loves that place too.

600
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 2>I've got a few stories out of there, about four

601
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:47.480
<v Speaker 2>over the years because that's gone in and out of there. Unfortunately,

602
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 2>I was alone there one time on my bike. I

603
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know why I did that. I did that was

604
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>pretty very too. So back to the bridge, uh and

605
00:33:56.119 --> 00:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the the the butt cheeks and the hairy butt cheek

606
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>is what they were. And they were wide. I averaged

607
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:05.599
<v Speaker 2>just looking at my hands and these things down below

608
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.920
<v Speaker 2>and the size looking at the trestles that I mean,

609
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:13.559
<v Speaker 2>the hips alone bent over and what the weirdest thing

610
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:19.960
<v Speaker 2>about it was we couldn't see its head, neck, ears, arms, nothing.

611
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:24.840
<v Speaker 2>It was the strangest sight to see was these leaping

612
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I called the butt teaks with thighs attached, tapering into

613
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 2>the water. That's what it looked like. And they were

614
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 2>fawn colored. Really doesn't know that. As we were down

615
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:38.079
<v Speaker 2>there in the lights from the two lane off the

616
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 2>freeway by the doctor, reflecting off the water, and we

617
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:44.440
<v Speaker 2>could see it perfectly, and it was leaping. So I

618
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.880
<v Speaker 2>see the two buttcheeks and it just had started its

619
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.719
<v Speaker 2>little pattern of leaps, and in the first one I

620
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:52.639
<v Speaker 2>caught out of the corner of my eye. And we're

621
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 2>all looking now, and the kid next to me as

622
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 2>a deer hunter. He's an eighteen year old deer hunter.

623
00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.519
<v Speaker 2>He says, during these leaps in the water, things leaping

624
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:05.159
<v Speaker 2>probably eight foot at a leap. I'm guesstimating if I

625
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 2>was a Google map that area in probably it's one

626
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 2>hundred and I don't know, twenty feet maybe from where

627
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.800
<v Speaker 2>it started under the trestles to the tree line where

628
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 2>it did a ninja booth. But at this moment, the

629
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.519
<v Speaker 2>kid next to me goes, that's not a deer, and

630
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I almost started laughing because my mind, it was moving

631
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.760
<v Speaker 2>like the deer. It was trying to imitate a deer,

632
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:32.519
<v Speaker 2>but we could not see its back or head or arms,

633
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:36.519
<v Speaker 2>so it literally either had had itself in this position

634
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 2>with somebody above it before and had to hide, or

635
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.280
<v Speaker 2>it's just the best at I don't even know how

636
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:48.920
<v Speaker 2>to describe it, but you can just imagine it pushing

637
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:52.840
<v Speaker 2>off its hands and its feet only. The only inflection

638
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:54.920
<v Speaker 2>of bend I saw on the knee was and that's

639
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 2>where my eye went. As soon as it landed out

640
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.280
<v Speaker 2>in front of us, the two butt cheeks and the leg.

641
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:03.320
<v Speaker 2>You can see the legs. It slightly bent its knees

642
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 2>for the next leap, just slightly, not much at all,

643
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:08.800
<v Speaker 2>because that's where my eye went. I'm like, this thing

644
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.280
<v Speaker 2>just leaped away from us. Jeez, the wiz that was

645
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:13.679
<v Speaker 2>far in my mind. This is all happening. Click click

646
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:17.239
<v Speaker 2>click click click. But you know, thinking back, I know

647
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 2>what I'm thinking. You know what I'm thinking. The kid

648
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:21.760
<v Speaker 2>next to me all wouldn't make me laugh, because this

649
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.199
<v Speaker 2>thing does look like a deer if it had a

650
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.519
<v Speaker 2>white tail, or even a tail sticking now between those

651
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>two butt cheeks, I just said, yeah, that's a deer.

652
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 2>But it had no head or neck or ears, you know,

653
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:38.159
<v Speaker 2>deer ears are huge, giant, floppy years. They don't really

654
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:40.719
<v Speaker 2>have right. We didn't see it neck. I mean, this

655
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:43.119
<v Speaker 2>thing was two butt cheeks leaping away from us. It

656
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:46.039
<v Speaker 2>was the weirdest thing to see. I laughed because he

657
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:48.920
<v Speaker 2>looking back on it, this thing was the best mimic

658
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:55.159
<v Speaker 2>of getting away from I mean, they are absolutely And

659
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the ninja movement made when it did its fourth leap

660
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:02.960
<v Speaker 2>and and the leaps, it got to the tree line

661
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 2>and just did this swooping, stand up ninja move. You know,

662
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I can't It's hard to describe how something that large

663
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:12.880
<v Speaker 2>could do. That's what it did. And the other part

664
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:16.280
<v Speaker 2>about it was that it didn't realize it. It was

665
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.480
<v Speaker 2>being seen by the light with shining directly on it.

666
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 2>So when it did the ninja move and stood up

667
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.440
<v Speaker 2>on its two feet, because you know, it was on

668
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 2>all fours, we didn't know that. It just looked like

669
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.519
<v Speaker 2>two butcheets. But when it stood up and I could

670
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 2>see this swooping movement that because the light was reflecting

671
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:39.039
<v Speaker 2>off the water onto its fur, it was already probably wet.

672
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 2>And at some point, I don't know, I don't what

673
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 2>he was down there doing. I know he was down

674
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.360
<v Speaker 2>there doing a lot of things after that, because I

675
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.639
<v Speaker 2>went down there a lot and a lot of things

676
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 2>telling about. But anyway, he did the swooping ninja move,

677
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 2>and he didn't realize that his nose, chin, eyebrows, his

678
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:59.000
<v Speaker 2>chest plates were all sticking out in the light. It

679
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:03.119
<v Speaker 2>was really creepy because as soon as he I think

680
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.480
<v Speaker 2>he realized that to say heat, I don't know when

681
00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:09.639
<v Speaker 2>it's a heat or not, but it it backed into

682
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the darkness. And the next thing is so astounding. I mean,

683
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.000
<v Speaker 2>for a first time encounter, this is the weirdest stuff

684
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:19.480
<v Speaker 2>to have to tell people. And I, you know, to

685
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:21.760
<v Speaker 2>read these stories other people have, I'm like, oh, my gosh,

686
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>that was so simple and easy. Acrossed in front of

687
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.199
<v Speaker 2>my car, looked like a big clip of Okay. Then

688
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.199
<v Speaker 2>they went in the tree. I was gone, oh, I

689
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.039
<v Speaker 2>love that. That would have been great, But no, I

690
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.719
<v Speaker 2>had to go out there. You know, I'm with this

691
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:36.960
<v Speaker 2>stay in the darkness and the dank goodness and with

692
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.079
<v Speaker 2>other people most of the time. So after the last time,

693
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:45.360
<v Speaker 2>and so it did that ninja move and it just

694
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>slowly just backed into the darkness and disappeared. The nose

695
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:53.559
<v Speaker 2>and the the eyebrow like, you know, like the big

696
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>brows stick it out like a Neanderthal kind of thing,

697
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.159
<v Speaker 2>and the nose and the chin and the breast place

698
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:02.599
<v Speaker 2>we're all shiny white like white like glowing because of

699
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.719
<v Speaker 2>the light hitting it. I don't remember. It's too far

700
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.559
<v Speaker 2>away from me to see if it was greasy, but

701
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're always described as very greasy because they're

702
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 2>not very cup But anyway, at that moment, I looked.

703
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.360
<v Speaker 2>I touched the kid next to me on his arm.

704
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Make a dear noise. He goes, huh, I said, I don't.

705
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.920
<v Speaker 2>He goes, dear blood. I go, yeah, I don't care,

706
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.679
<v Speaker 2>makes some deer noise. It's acting like a deer. Let's

707
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:28.639
<v Speaker 2>see if it will call, if it'll respond. I didn't

708
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:31.519
<v Speaker 2>say this, but this is what I'm thinking. Sure enough,

709
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.119
<v Speaker 2>he makes a deer blood and it calls back. He

710
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.760
<v Speaker 2>looks at me and he goes, that's not a deer. Deer,

711
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 2>don't call back. I almost started laughing again. He'd already

712
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:45.280
<v Speaker 2>seen it leaping away. That wasn't a deer. He knew it.

713
00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 2>He said it out loud, that's not a deer. But

714
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 2>yet he stands there and says, deer, don't call back.

715
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.360
<v Speaker 2>So he's still not convinced of what he's seen. None

716
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 2>of us are the kid that was standing on my right.

717
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't even remember what happened. I talked to him

718
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:00.199
<v Speaker 2>the other day. He says, I don't even and now

719
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:03.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember. Oh my good. Okay, fine, that's that's

720
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:06.119
<v Speaker 2>just fine. I said, where Casey, I he'll remember. He's

721
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.400
<v Speaker 2>a hunter. That kid told me a couple of stories

722
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:10.320
<v Speaker 2>with him out there that like, oh my god, they're

723
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Harry by himself. The kid was hell. He was daring

724
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:16.440
<v Speaker 2>kid hunters. Man. I'll tell you what, I feel sorry

725
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:18.239
<v Speaker 2>for him when they get the reality busted with these

726
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:22.639
<v Speaker 2>monsters run around them anyway, they are they have monsters.

727
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:25.679
<v Speaker 2>They're they're big, and they're creepy, and they're sneaky and

728
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:28.239
<v Speaker 2>they're they're everything that you don't want your kid to be.

729
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 2>That's basically what I think about it. And they smell

730
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:38.199
<v Speaker 2>like h lord bon. So anyway, it's leaping away, it

731
00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:41.559
<v Speaker 2>stands up, backs into the darkness, and now it's calling

732
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:45.360
<v Speaker 2>back and forth. I mean not just once this, he

733
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:48.599
<v Speaker 2>did this five times. It called back every time. But

734
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.199
<v Speaker 2>the other thing it did was it kept stepping to

735
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>its left our right towards the riverbank, and I figured

736
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.199
<v Speaker 2>out why I went down there investigating, and I figured

737
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:01.679
<v Speaker 2>out what it was doing. This thing had patterns, and

738
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.039
<v Speaker 2>I realized later on it was watching that playground down

739
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:08.119
<v Speaker 2>there a lot. I've seen that it turned the whole

740
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 2>back of the bushes area into toothpicks. Whenever see toothpicks,

741
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:16.320
<v Speaker 2>someone's traveling too, busting sticks by walking on it. Well,

742
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 2>I've seen this many many times as toothstick things, so

743
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.199
<v Speaker 2>keep your eyes out for that. Sometimes the best indicator

744
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:26.840
<v Speaker 2>is where they're stepping is turned to you know, toothpicks.

745
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:29.079
<v Speaker 2>I call it because it shreds wood. They shred wood

746
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:34.159
<v Speaker 2>when they walk. They're basically so heavy. Anyway, Ah, it's

747
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:36.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of scary to think it's been watching that playground

748
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:38.199
<v Speaker 2>all this time. Makes me wondering what the cops know

749
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:42.480
<v Speaker 2>and if anybody's disappeared out there. So I got a

750
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:47.440
<v Speaker 2>little concerns because you know, behind this playground is a

751
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:50.440
<v Speaker 2>bush line that's just behind the parking latst snun very

752
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:52.440
<v Speaker 2>far and you can see through the book I've been

753
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.119
<v Speaker 2>back there. You can see perfectly fishing pond next to

754
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:01.639
<v Speaker 2>a playground the kids go to night day, every every

755
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:05.559
<v Speaker 2>day that they can, every weekend for sure. And this thing,

756
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:08.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's still I was called him board. You know,

757
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:11.719
<v Speaker 2>they're probably the most bored preacher out there all alone,

758
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:14.599
<v Speaker 2>if they're not with the family group. I I come

759
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:16.639
<v Speaker 2>to realize this thing might have been alone. I'm not

760
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:19.039
<v Speaker 2>sure because of the way it acted. It did a

761
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.119
<v Speaker 2>couple of things that gave me the indicator that it

762
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:27.360
<v Speaker 2>may have been trying to, you know, signal others. I'll

763
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:31.320
<v Speaker 2>tell you about that in a minute. So, uh, it

764
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:35.119
<v Speaker 2>calls back and forth five times. That kid makes me

765
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.920
<v Speaker 2>he's just stunned. You're going to believe that this thing

766
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:41.679
<v Speaker 2>is talking to him. It's right, right, right, right, right right.

767
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that fast, but it was a it was

768
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:48.280
<v Speaker 2>a pretty fast gesture of voices back and forth him

769
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and that thing. And I was stunned because I never

770
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I read it a million stories. I've read

771
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:57.239
<v Speaker 2>stories from the countries, Canada, you name it. And I'm

772
00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:59.599
<v Speaker 2>up on top of everything going on right now, anybody

773
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>and every anybody who's anybody. And I don't say I'm anybody.

774
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:06.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying I know what's what and what's up

775
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:09.119
<v Speaker 2>out there. And I keep up on it because I

776
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:11.119
<v Speaker 2>want to know. I want to see. I want to

777
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:13.239
<v Speaker 2>see how long they're going to keep this a secret,

778
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.199
<v Speaker 2>because I was told that no matter what I do

779
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.920
<v Speaker 2>or when I get on video in every release. So

780
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:21.400
<v Speaker 2>a little discourage. But anyway, back to the river in

781
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 2>the trestles, so we're standing there in the trust is

782
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:26.440
<v Speaker 2>calling back and forth this thing he is, I'm not,

783
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:32.159
<v Speaker 2>And the encounter stopped at that moment. It had reached

784
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 2>the edge of the of the river and was not

785
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:40.199
<v Speaker 2>calling back anymore. So we stood there for a little

786
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:44.039
<v Speaker 2>bit and then we I called, I made a call,

787
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I got, I got a little anxious. I decided to

788
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:49.719
<v Speaker 2>do it. Roar back Seaco roar. I wanted to hear

789
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.760
<v Speaker 2>that big roar that my friend got roared at. He

790
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 2>thought he described the roar as a he thought of

791
00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:58.320
<v Speaker 2>a feeline he was going to see, like a feeline

792
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.440
<v Speaker 2>like a ugar has been seen in that. Every big

793
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 2>large black one can tell us that story too. Friend

794
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:06.840
<v Speaker 2>of mine, now big footing, that had one pacing him

795
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>in a creek, A big, large black one pacing across

796
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.400
<v Speaker 2>the creek. He just sort of snapped, looked over and

797
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:14.280
<v Speaker 2>there was looking at him, big yellow eyes. He was

798
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:16.960
<v Speaker 2>scared to death. I thought he's gonna die anyway. Cougars

799
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 2>do exist. People are black too, anyway. Uh So yeah,

800
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:27.440
<v Speaker 2>we left after that, and I failed to get my

801
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>recordings from the iPhone.

802
00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.199
<v Speaker 4>If I would have been, we wouldn't we'd be listening

803
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:33.000
<v Speaker 4>to it instead of me talking about because it was

804
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:36.679
<v Speaker 4>it would be something to hear that thing calling back

805
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.800
<v Speaker 4>and forth would have been the best calls ever heard of.

806
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Anything imitating in here like that. Stan Courtney's site at

807
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:48.840
<v Speaker 2>stan courtney dot com. You can listen to bigfoot mimicking,

808
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:57.639
<v Speaker 2>mimicking all kinds of things, animals TVs. Dog barking, I

809
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:03.039
<v Speaker 2>can't get weed eaters. U uh. He got a recording

810
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:06.239
<v Speaker 2>of a place that he took me, and I'm part

811
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.400
<v Speaker 2>of this little recording he did and it's out there.

812
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:10.480
<v Speaker 2>And if you ever go to the site and you're

813
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:14.280
<v Speaker 2>read listening to these these sounds, go to the blog

814
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:16.280
<v Speaker 2>because it'll tell you how he got it and where

815
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.079
<v Speaker 2>he got it and what got him there to get it.

816
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:21.159
<v Speaker 2>And one of them involved me. I was within the

817
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 2>night that this happened. We're on that bridge and he's

818
00:45:26.599 --> 00:45:28.920
<v Speaker 2>he took me out there with the bridge was told

819
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:32.559
<v Speaker 2>about to us from a guy that I met from

820
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Jerseyville named Jared. In Jerseyville, he had a sighting on

821
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Otter Road called the Otter Road Incident I think, or

822
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:49.119
<v Speaker 2>something on VFR report two nine six two nine five

823
00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 2>excuse me, VFR Report twenty nine twenty six five, where

824
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:57.599
<v Speaker 2>he tells about it crossing in front of him. I

825
00:45:57.719 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 2>tell you some details, or you can go and read

826
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 2>that yourself. Very interesting. I had to encourage him to

827
00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:06.519
<v Speaker 2>put that on there. Also, the two people I encourage

828
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:10.840
<v Speaker 2>got two really good stories of Class A sightings and

829
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.440
<v Speaker 2>led me to my first sighting first time down there.

830
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:17.639
<v Speaker 2>Highly recommend that you all look in your area if

831
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:20.320
<v Speaker 2>you're interested in doing this, look for your green areas, rivers,

832
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:24.199
<v Speaker 2>your lakes, your ponds near you, any kind of water,

833
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.559
<v Speaker 2>just probably going to have some indicators of some sort

834
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.840
<v Speaker 2>tree lines nearby are I was helpful, but not necessary.

835
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:34.800
<v Speaker 2>They will travel in the dark to get to these

836
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:36.440
<v Speaker 2>things and drink out of them, and they go back

837
00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:38.920
<v Speaker 2>to tree lines that are far away. They travel up

838
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:41.960
<v Speaker 2>to twenty five to thirty miles a night is estimated,

839
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:48.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe more. That's a guestimate. I personally don't think that

840
00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:51.559
<v Speaker 2>and This was talked about long ago when I was younger.

841
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Peter Burn talked about this, Grover Krantz talked about this.

842
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.960
<v Speaker 2>There was a speculation still today probably about it. I

843
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:05.320
<v Speaker 2>think some of them do migrate. I don't think it's

844
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:08.679
<v Speaker 2>very far though. I think the ones that are here

845
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 2>in Oklahoma travel maybe down to the eastern warmer ports

846
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:17.559
<v Speaker 2>of Louisiana, maybe in this fault you know area. Maybe

847
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.360
<v Speaker 2>that's why there's so much activity there is that there's

848
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 2>a there's an area there called and people know this area.

849
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:28.440
<v Speaker 2>It's called the uh, the Great Thicket in Texas East

850
00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:32.760
<v Speaker 2>East Texas area, and it borderlines the Faulk River Fulk

851
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:36.119
<v Speaker 2>drainage in that area where that Monster movie came from.

852
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.440
<v Speaker 2>And that is a fascinating area because they say, if

853
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:42.320
<v Speaker 2>you go there, it sounds like Jurassic Park. I don't

854
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.519
<v Speaker 2>recommend it. They talk about black vehicles following you, pulling

855
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.280
<v Speaker 2>you over, keeping you for hours, just messing with you,

856
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.880
<v Speaker 2>knowing that you know you can't do anything about it. Uh,

857
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:56.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, just passling it to the most point where

858
00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:59.239
<v Speaker 2>you just want to go home. You know, we're done, Okay, fine,

859
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.920
<v Speaker 2>you got it. Uh. And they're good at it. You know,

860
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:04.840
<v Speaker 2>these these black project people there and they're protecting money.

861
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:08.039
<v Speaker 2>It's all it's all about. It's all about money. Trillions

862
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:10.519
<v Speaker 2>of dollars that are spent in the national parks across

863
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:13.559
<v Speaker 2>America every year. You could just imagine what they would

864
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:16.079
<v Speaker 2>do to protect that, keep people from taking there's any

865
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:19.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of monster camping around them. What I've come to

866
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.199
<v Speaker 2>find out is they live in the city limits. That

867
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:26.000
<v Speaker 2>first encounter I had was the city limits. It's a

868
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 2>small town, but it still is a city limits. Hey,

869
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:30.280
<v Speaker 2>cars throve by there all the time, people went down

870
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:33.199
<v Speaker 2>there all the time. I'd never heard anything about that

871
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:36.599
<v Speaker 2>area having any kind of spooky monster, you know, thing

872
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.159
<v Speaker 2>going on at all. But normally towns have that. You know,

873
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:42.840
<v Speaker 2>you don't hear something like that once you're known to

874
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:44.760
<v Speaker 2>know about it, and they're like, hey, did you know

875
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:46.960
<v Speaker 2>about it? And that's how I heard about the screaming area.

876
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:51.679
<v Speaker 2>Lady Bridge and I went there. We had I did

877
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:54.719
<v Speaker 2>my first call there, got my first response back. It

878
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:58.079
<v Speaker 2>was very interesting, it was fascinating. I loved it. It

879
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>got scary though, because there was one on our side

880
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:02.760
<v Speaker 2>that was coming up to us pretty quickly. It was

881
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:04.639
<v Speaker 2>breaking limbs all the way in too, And that was

882
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:07.679
<v Speaker 2>the scariest part, was that the limbs and the sound

883
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:11.480
<v Speaker 2>got louder and louder. And if I tell you the

884
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:14.360
<v Speaker 2>story I originally got me there, you'll understand why I

885
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:17.920
<v Speaker 2>booging down of there. Great place for a camera in

886
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:20.039
<v Speaker 2>my opinion, but I looked at it recently. In the

887
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:22.199
<v Speaker 2>area that I got my callback from was a swamp,

888
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:26.519
<v Speaker 2>but now it's farm land. They're farming it, so it's

889
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:29.519
<v Speaker 2>still probably over there somewhere, but not in that same spot.

890
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 2>It called back to me that night. Anyway, my first

891
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.840
<v Speaker 2>callback was fascinating to get one called back. I mean

892
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I went to the right place at the right time

893
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:41.519
<v Speaker 2>in the north part of Carlisle Lake is where it

894
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:50.280
<v Speaker 2>was the screaming Hairy Ladybridge. So later on after our encounter, uh,

895
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, I failed to get the recording, but I

896
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:56.719
<v Speaker 2>got my own recorder and I put a velcrow on

897
00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:00.199
<v Speaker 2>my hat and I attached the recorder when I go in,

898
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 2>because I realized holding them makes a lot of scratchy

899
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:04.960
<v Speaker 2>noises and a lot of unnecessary things that you don't

900
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:06.440
<v Speaker 2>want to hear, you know, need to hear all that

901
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.000
<v Speaker 2>when you're trying to record so I put it on

902
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:10.760
<v Speaker 2>a bill of my hat. Unfortunately, sticks would hit it occasion,

903
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:14.920
<v Speaker 2>but it kept. It would catch way more than I

904
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.679
<v Speaker 2>could ever get trying to hold the thing and carrying

905
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.119
<v Speaker 2>it in on any kind of equipment or stand or

906
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:24.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, holder of any kind of stick. So I

907
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:26.440
<v Speaker 2>put it on a bill of my hat. You can try.

908
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:30.400
<v Speaker 2>It works pretty good, belchrum. So it worked, and I

909
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:32.159
<v Speaker 2>got a lot of recording. I recorded every time I

910
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:35.760
<v Speaker 2>went in. Unfortunately, the age of the recorder and the

911
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:39.360
<v Speaker 2>screen started to degregate. So get yourself something pretty good,

912
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:41.800
<v Speaker 2>solid state. Pay at least a DY two hundred dollars

913
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:44.400
<v Speaker 2>and you'll have something of the last lotter. Don't get

914
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:46.599
<v Speaker 2>the ones with the led screens. They go. That's what

915
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:49.440
<v Speaker 2>happened to me. So I'm just guessing when I'm pushing

916
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:51.480
<v Speaker 2>the buttons trying to get my recordings. But I still

917
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 2>have it and still works. And I pulled the one

918
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:56.760
<v Speaker 2>that was important, which was the alone in the morning

919
00:50:56.840 --> 00:51:01.119
<v Speaker 2>by myself, you know, with this with this thing anyway,

920
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 2>So after this I started, you know, I told what

921
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.360
<v Speaker 2>they told their girlfriend. He told his girlfriend. He got home.

922
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:11.880
<v Speaker 2>We got we're very excited. You know, it's three in

923
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 2>the morning three thirty. The more we get home, we're shacked,

924
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:18.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, with the adrelline just rattling off what we

925
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.280
<v Speaker 2>just saw. You know, they're not they're kind of quiet,

926
00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:24.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm jacked because I know what we saw. Anyway,

927
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.519
<v Speaker 2>So the next weekend she wants to go. So all

928
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:33.440
<v Speaker 2>four of us go, those two and his girlfriend and I.

929
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:37.039
<v Speaker 2>We get out there and we go to the this

930
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.400
<v Speaker 2>time we started from the boat ramp. And if you

931
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:44.039
<v Speaker 2>take the boat ramp and cross through the grass underneath

932
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:49.039
<v Speaker 2>the two lane highway fifty, there's a tunnel, very big tunnel,

933
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:53.559
<v Speaker 2>stand up tunnel probably, I don't know, twelve foot wide,

934
00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:57.119
<v Speaker 2>six six and a half foot home. You can walk

935
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:00.679
<v Speaker 2>right to it. Very aquy on that opp and I

936
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:06.559
<v Speaker 2>wanted to shot this thing anyway. Uh So we go

937
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:09.599
<v Speaker 2>down in there with the four of us, and we

938
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:11.639
<v Speaker 2>go over to the trestles where her all of us

939
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:13.360
<v Speaker 2>were standing. We tell her the story. Well, you know,

940
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:16.320
<v Speaker 2>we had already heard it, but then we started describing,

941
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:19.440
<v Speaker 2>and he went this way, it landed, landed underneath us here,

942
00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:22.800
<v Speaker 2>and it already dried up that quickly. That's how quick

943
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:25.920
<v Speaker 2>the dam can close and the ground can drop. But

944
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:31.079
<v Speaker 2>it was very hard passed and dirt substrate. And the

945
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:32.960
<v Speaker 2>reason I know that is because I found a toprin

946
00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:35.119
<v Speaker 2>and it was just like some men. I don't know

947
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:40.480
<v Speaker 2>how it embedded into an inch into that like cement substrate,

948
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:42.800
<v Speaker 2>but it did. And I know her went up on

949
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:44.639
<v Speaker 2>that trustle to get away from My guy was with

950
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:48.039
<v Speaker 2>me chasing it. I think he saw it. I think

951
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:50.639
<v Speaker 2>it was playing games with him and it had duck

952
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:53.079
<v Speaker 2>in between these trustles, and it was he was running

953
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:55.760
<v Speaker 2>down there and we could see his hair. He looked

954
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 2>like he had led Zeppelin here and it was real dark,

955
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, but his blond hair stood out down there.

956
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I can see him, and so could ever know the two.

957
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:07.159
<v Speaker 2>There's two others with me. His ex wife came down

958
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:08.679
<v Speaker 2>there one third in the morning to have a big

959
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:11.440
<v Speaker 2>footing down her. I brought a girl who like ghosts.

960
00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:13.719
<v Speaker 2>She wanted to go down there. I said, okay, come on, Candy,

961
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:16.920
<v Speaker 2>let's go down there. So Candy, her husband was a truck.

962
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:20.360
<v Speaker 2>He's going ahead, you know, we'll see ghost So we

963
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:23.760
<v Speaker 2>went down. I took her down there, and I set

964
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:27.400
<v Speaker 2>up some chairs before they got there. I want to

965
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:31.119
<v Speaker 2>carry them in and have to carry in anything. Else. Uh.

966
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:33.840
<v Speaker 2>They arrived at one thirty at the picnic table, and

967
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:36.400
<v Speaker 2>we all walked through the tunnel underneath the two lane

968
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 2>into the bottoms area by the trustles there at the

969
00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Kaskaskia River edge underneath the river track down there, and

970
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:50.960
<v Speaker 2>stood there and looked around and didn't hear anything right

971
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.880
<v Speaker 2>there at that moment. I didn't. I don't like, I said,

972
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:56.679
<v Speaker 2>my hearing's bad. They did not at that moment, but

973
00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:59.079
<v Speaker 2>I did tell them, hey, you know, if you hear something,

974
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:00.599
<v Speaker 2>touch me and tell me what you're hearing so we

975
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:03.719
<v Speaker 2>can all encounter it. Because a lot of times I've

976
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:06.920
<v Speaker 2>heard if you read, you'll know these things will try

977
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.280
<v Speaker 2>to segregate us. I don't know why they do it,

978
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.119
<v Speaker 2>but they do. Will they will target one person, and

979
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.119
<v Speaker 2>they targeted her, and she was behind me and there

980
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.440
<v Speaker 2>was two of us side by side with her buying

981
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 2>me and her boyfriend next door and then walking back

982
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.960
<v Speaker 2>on the road back from the trestles. Well down by

983
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the trestles, I had done one of these. I like that,

984
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.760
<v Speaker 2>just a two coffer, just to clear my throat. We're

985
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.519
<v Speaker 2>coming back and she stops. She touched me on the shoulder,

986
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:36.400
<v Speaker 2>so I stopped. We turned around with all huddled up.

987
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I said, yeah, what's going on? He says, well, you

988
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:41.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't hear that? I said, no, did you guys hear it? No,

989
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:44.599
<v Speaker 2>they didn't hear it. I didn't hear it. She was

990
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:47.800
<v Speaker 2>standing right behind me. But my hearing's bad. But they

991
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.079
<v Speaker 2>still didn't hear it. And they're young, so I didn't

992
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.239
<v Speaker 2>know what was going on. But what she said she

993
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:56.519
<v Speaker 2>heard was this, she said at R five thirty more

994
00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 2>than once. She said. She said, it was like it

995
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.159
<v Speaker 2>was trying to get our attention. She said it would

996
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:08.559
<v Speaker 2>do just like you did the bridge. I said, no way.

997
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:11.320
<v Speaker 2>She said yeah. He said it sounded just like you

998
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:13.599
<v Speaker 2>when you coughed down by the bridge. I said, oh

999
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:16.519
<v Speaker 2>my gosh. So she said it's done it five times.

1000
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'll stand here and see what we'll do

1001
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.199
<v Speaker 2>it again, and he never did. So we just kept

1002
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:22.639
<v Speaker 2>We walked back to the car, back under the bridge

1003
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:25.280
<v Speaker 2>and went and left. A lot of these encounters, that's,

1004
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:28.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, even with other things, I don't stick around.

1005
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 2>I've seen what I've seen them. I don't need to

1006
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:35.440
<v Speaker 2>see anymore. Usually your encounter doesn't last. They're not sticking

1007
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:38.239
<v Speaker 2>around to stay high. Normally, but I don't want to

1008
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:40.039
<v Speaker 2>try to say I don't know what it was trying

1009
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:43.159
<v Speaker 2>to say, but I wish I would have said something

1010
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:45.599
<v Speaker 2>to it. That was my only time alone with one.

1011
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:48.760
<v Speaker 2>That may have been the time to say something. They

1012
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:49.800
<v Speaker 2>do speak to people.

1013
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:50.119
<v Speaker 1>I know.

1014
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:54.360
<v Speaker 2>If you're interested, you know, you can contact me at

1015
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:57.679
<v Speaker 2>my page. I'll tell you about other guys out there.

1016
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to promote other pages because you know,

1017
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma City Urban Bigfoot Group is the only one that

1018
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:06.239
<v Speaker 2>should be out there on Facebook. You can join the

1019
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:08.320
<v Speaker 2>group and read stories that I got on there. I

1020
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:13.280
<v Speaker 2>don't charge anything for anything, so it's all free and

1021
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:15.360
<v Speaker 2>information I give you is hopefully go to help you

1022
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:17.880
<v Speaker 2>in the future of your endeavors. If you're out there

1023
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:20.559
<v Speaker 2>trying to encounter these creatures. You know, I'm not the

1024
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:23.039
<v Speaker 2>only one to have encounters, so there's plenty other people

1025
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:28.960
<v Speaker 2>telling about it. I do recommend some Stancourtney dot Com

1026
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:33.239
<v Speaker 2>is highly recommended. There's three different audios you should listen

1027
00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:36.039
<v Speaker 2>to and read the blogs because the one blog about

1028
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:39.480
<v Speaker 2>it's called bridge Runner and the reason it's called bridge

1029
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Runners because and it is the only recording I have

1030
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:47.679
<v Speaker 2>ever heard of one breathing heavily and running on all fours.

1031
00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Nobody pays attention to anything like this because it's you know,

1032
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:55.079
<v Speaker 2>it's buried in his site and you have to know

1033
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:58.119
<v Speaker 2>about it. He doesn't promote it. I do because I

1034
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:00.119
<v Speaker 2>was part of it. I was at that bridge. That

1035
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:02.079
<v Speaker 2>was the first bridge he ever made a call with

1036
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:05.079
<v Speaker 2>me stand Cord. He made on the bridge that night,

1037
00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:10.000
<v Speaker 2>two third in the morning on a cold uh. I

1038
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:15.960
<v Speaker 2>think it was November, early November. It was cold, and

1039
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:18.400
<v Speaker 2>we were out in the middle of nowhere where Jared

1040
00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:24.119
<v Speaker 2>had had He had friend of his Jared Dad. He

1041
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:28.599
<v Speaker 2>had a uh encounter around on outer Road, but near there.

1042
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:31.360
<v Speaker 2>His friend was on a quad runner and he'd come

1043
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:34.360
<v Speaker 2>off the bridge of the little two lane out of

1044
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:36.400
<v Speaker 2>the middle of the and everywhere around him was the

1045
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:40.679
<v Speaker 2>farm farmland. This is farmland out in Illinois near the Mississippi.

1046
00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Olden drafton type area, probably about thirty five minutes from

1047
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:50.639
<v Speaker 2>the river from the Mississippi West is where we're at.

1048
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:54.679
<v Speaker 2>And it's a little waterway between these farmland and there's

1049
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:57.000
<v Speaker 2>a cement bridge. It's one hundred and ninety eight foot

1050
00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:01.519
<v Speaker 2>long cement bridge with steel rails. It's not a wooden bridge. Like,

1051
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:03.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, they may have been back in but it's

1052
00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:07.480
<v Speaker 2>now updated. Anyway, he takes me out. We get pulled

1053
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:09.239
<v Speaker 2>his jeep over. We get out and we walk out

1054
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:10.840
<v Speaker 2>at the middle of the bridge and I got my coat. Man.

1055
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 2>We are bundled up because it is really cold. He

1056
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:16.039
<v Speaker 2>brings a megaphone out and he sticks it to his lips.

1057
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:18.119
<v Speaker 2>He goes, I get it. I get it, and recalled

1058
00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:21.719
<v Speaker 2>back about fifty percent of the time. Stan Courtney tells

1059
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:24.480
<v Speaker 2>me and I said, oh, so it's our first time

1060
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:27.440
<v Speaker 2>really meeting. I'd already been to his house just earlier

1061
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:29.880
<v Speaker 2>prior to this, looking at his footprints, and I saw

1062
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:33.119
<v Speaker 2>the Patty footprint to imitate, you know, the remake of

1063
00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the Patty footprint at his house, and all of his

1064
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:38.360
<v Speaker 2>cameras and all of his equipment and all of his

1065
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:42.480
<v Speaker 2>stuff that he had acquired for this study and all

1066
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:45.559
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. He was doing well. He was dedicated to

1067
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:47.960
<v Speaker 2>this and very good at it. So his audio stuff

1068
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:51.960
<v Speaker 2>is very good. There's another one called I recommend Bridge

1069
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Runner and also weed Eater that's fascinating. Where the Bridge

1070
00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Runner story, I mean, the weed Eater story comes from.

1071
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:03.159
<v Speaker 2>You need to read on the blog. That's connected to

1072
00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:05.760
<v Speaker 2>the to the story. It'll tell you that he was

1073
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:08.800
<v Speaker 2>in an area of Villainois, that they were walking through

1074
00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:10.760
<v Speaker 2>an area and this thing was like this kind of

1075
00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:13.360
<v Speaker 2>a weeded or sound like fire meers to me. I've

1076
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:17.079
<v Speaker 2>heard the recording, so I know, like stand would take me,

1077
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:20.639
<v Speaker 2>tell me inside stuff he wouldn't print. He would tell

1078
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:23.400
<v Speaker 2>me things like it was staring at the woman to

1079
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:26.920
<v Speaker 2>her window watching TV. You know, she was watching TV.

1080
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:28.800
<v Speaker 2>He was staring through the window. She thought watching her,

1081
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:34.000
<v Speaker 2>but it was really watching the big screen, giant glass windows.

1082
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:40.360
<v Speaker 2>It was watching the fascinated by the leda. I think

1083
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:42.719
<v Speaker 2>that happens more often than that. I think a lot

1084
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:46.119
<v Speaker 2>of times people are being visited because they're fascinating by

1085
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:49.239
<v Speaker 2>what's going on inside. You know, you can just imagine

1086
00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:52.039
<v Speaker 2>us looking in an ant hill. You know, it's kind

1087
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:53.800
<v Speaker 2>of the same thing in there. In their eyes, we're

1088
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:56.079
<v Speaker 2>just an animal. Probably to them, I don't know what

1089
00:59:56.280 --> 01:00:01.800
<v Speaker 2>they think, but u uh, I have my theories. But

1090
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:05.480
<v Speaker 2>the bridge runner, weed eater, and there's a few more

1091
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:10.079
<v Speaker 2>in there, sniffer, the sniffer that one's fascinating, a deer,

1092
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:13.000
<v Speaker 2>a cow, and something else shows up to sniff. The

1093
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:16.159
<v Speaker 2>recording area. It was baited and it was under a log.

1094
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:20.199
<v Speaker 2>And you read the blog, you'll understand where that story case.

1095
01:00:20.199 --> 01:00:23.360
<v Speaker 2>It's very fascinating that the sniffer, the bridge runner, and

1096
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:30.079
<v Speaker 2>the weed eater are great on stands bfro. He's a investigator, right,

1097
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:37.000
<v Speaker 2>but he still is. Yeah. So Stan and I grew

1098
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:40.719
<v Speaker 2>up in the same you know, Eugene area, and we

1099
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:43.960
<v Speaker 2>had our connection there. But I went out with him

1100
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:47.800
<v Speaker 2>a few times. Stan funnily joke. I mean, I think

1101
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:49.960
<v Speaker 2>it's hilarious. He would carry a twenty two with him.

1102
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:52.320
<v Speaker 2>But I understood why after he told me a story

1103
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:55.400
<v Speaker 2>about the black panther following him. I was looking for

1104
01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:59.320
<v Speaker 2>footprints along a creek and I think it was northern

1105
01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Springfield area, standing like in Springfield area. There was some

1106
01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:07.000
<v Speaker 2>investigating going on in that area. There's a lot of

1107
01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:10.840
<v Speaker 2>sidings in northern Springfield, Illinois area, just north of the

1108
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:14.079
<v Speaker 2>lake there that got closed down. And his theories were

1109
01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:17.519
<v Speaker 2>that some of the microbes coming out of the lake

1110
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:23.639
<v Speaker 2>were from large animals. They're usually only seen in zoop

1111
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:28.199
<v Speaker 2>or p or water. So this lake was shut down

1112
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:30.719
<v Speaker 2>because of it. Well, really what was going on is

1113
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Bigfoot was hiding and they were in the river running

1114
01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:36.920
<v Speaker 2>into the lake. But it was up in this area

1115
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:40.199
<v Speaker 2>and these neighborhoods and people were steeing them and having encounters,

1116
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and they were yelling at people and throwing things. And

1117
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:46.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean people went through this one place in Illinois

1118
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:51.519
<v Speaker 2>and Springfield into this and it's on stand site. Talks

1119
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:56.519
<v Speaker 2>about this cemetery where they were walking through the cemetery

1120
01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:58.920
<v Speaker 2>in the back and there's a tree line back there,

1121
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:00.639
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden it a rep into total

1122
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:05.159
<v Speaker 2>explosion of breaking limbs, things flying through the air, nor

1123
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:09.360
<v Speaker 2>near at them, but close just towards them. Just the

1124
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:13.119
<v Speaker 2>total ruck that's going on behind and I think it

1125
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:15.719
<v Speaker 2>had thrown some the rock down and they veiled. But

1126
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:19.679
<v Speaker 2>that happened in Springfield, only a cemetery just outside of

1127
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:22.440
<v Speaker 2>town there somewhere, And he talks about that story. But

1128
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:27.079
<v Speaker 2>my personal encounters are the bottoms of Illinois and here

1129
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:31.039
<v Speaker 2>in Oklahoma. The bottoms were the Harriet because I had

1130
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:33.519
<v Speaker 2>my clothes. I was really digging for my you know,

1131
01:02:33.719 --> 01:02:37.320
<v Speaker 2>my own personal knowledge of these creatures existing or not.

1132
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:40.760
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I was out. There's the only reason

1133
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I was there. I did not care about anything else,

1134
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:48.519
<v Speaker 2>So there to prove to myself that I've seen something

1135
01:02:48.639 --> 01:02:52.039
<v Speaker 2>that they say doesn't exist. And this is why I've

1136
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:55.159
<v Speaker 2>said numerous times about this one down there, that it

1137
01:02:55.280 --> 01:02:57.760
<v Speaker 2>had been drinking that that well water down there and

1138
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:04.119
<v Speaker 2>got bring something happened to its brains. And it's unfortunate

1139
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:08.760
<v Speaker 2>that area is plagued with bad water from the past retardation.

1140
01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:13.440
<v Speaker 2>That Clinton County area has a whole bunch of buster

1141
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:18.199
<v Speaker 2>running people around the bad water retardation from the past,

1142
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:21.559
<v Speaker 2>chemicals in the fields, and they drink the well water

1143
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:25.159
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of problems, create a lot of problems.

1144
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.880
<v Speaker 2>They have schools, they're busting people around every retardation. They

1145
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:31.480
<v Speaker 2>have to have special training to move a piece of

1146
01:03:33.119 --> 01:03:36.119
<v Speaker 2>wood to one piece box to another to make something

1147
01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:39.239
<v Speaker 2>else happen. And you know, that kind of thing was

1148
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:42.159
<v Speaker 2>caused from the water in the farm lands of the

1149
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.639
<v Speaker 2>midwest of Illinois, and it probably didn't just happen there,

1150
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:48.320
<v Speaker 2>but you know, it gets hushed. You don't hear about

1151
01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:51.519
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. But anyway, I think this one was retarded.

1152
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:55.599
<v Speaker 2>So I don't mean this, you know, to imply that

1153
01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:58.719
<v Speaker 2>retardation is a problem with anybody, youh man. I'm just

1154
01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:02.360
<v Speaker 2>saying that why would the most elusive creature in the world,

1155
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:08.360
<v Speaker 2>be so out there for me to find it through things.

1156
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:11.199
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even tell you about the rock growing an incident.

1157
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I was getting to it. I mean, it was so

1158
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:17.639
<v Speaker 2>obvious there was something there. But if you're elusive, why

1159
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:20.039
<v Speaker 2>would you? I mean some of them are very silent

1160
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:24.199
<v Speaker 2>that this someone is not. So Yeah, that was the

1161
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Bottoms of Illinois.

1162
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:28.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, Jeff for about an hour in and I know

1163
01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you've got more experiences to share, which, of course I'm

1164
01:04:31.800 --> 01:04:33.880
<v Speaker 1>sure the listeners would love to hear. Would you be

1165
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:35.599
<v Speaker 1>up for coming back for a part two?

1166
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, we can do that whenever you're ready let

1167
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:42.559
<v Speaker 2>me know. Oh a great, I'm semi retired, so I

1168
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:43.400
<v Speaker 2>have loft the time.

1169
01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'd love to bring you back on so you

1170
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:48.920
<v Speaker 1>can do that. Thanks again so much for your time

1171
01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:50.599
<v Speaker 1>and looking forward to having you back.

1172
01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:00.519
<v Speaker 2>That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness This Radio

1173
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:04.480
<v Speaker 2>with Vic Kundiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and

1174
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:06.679
<v Speaker 2>would like to be a guest on the show, please

1175
01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:09.840
<v Speaker 2>go to Bigfoot Eyewitness dot com and submit a report.

1176
01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:14.800
<v Speaker 2>We'd love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, Have

1177
01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:15.599
<v Speaker 2>a great night.