Speaker 1: Greeting scitations every one at Church Wells, and welcome to
Speaker 1: Fantasy Baseball Live. Today is August fourth, about two o'clock
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, and we are here for a special
Speaker 1: podcast because we have just wrapped up the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: six trading deadline. Tim and I don't know how many
Speaker 1: trades there were. I rode up thirty four, So that's
Speaker 1: that's what I got. In the last three or four days.
Speaker 1: We had thirty four trades, which was pretty insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was dead up until Sunday. Then we started
Speaker 2: to see some activity, and come yesterday morning, basically all
Speaker 2: hell broke close right through until six o'clock, with the
Speaker 2: last one sneaking into the deadline by the padres. A
Speaker 2: lot of players move teams. It's good. We were just
Speaker 2: briefly discussing you can we got on the air, and
Speaker 2: it's gonna take a few days to get this all straightened.
Speaker 2: Note in our noggins as to who's what when we're
Speaker 2: and on top of that, we've got the normal ups
Speaker 2: and downs and movement of existing players to deal with.
Speaker 2: So it's going to take a while to get this
Speaker 2: straight and around in our noggins, I think, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean for our Patreon members and again I encourage
Speaker 1: everybody to join us out there. I mean they were
Speaker 1: getting updates every half hour, two an hour and a
Speaker 1: half ever long. It took me to write the trade up,
Speaker 1: and I mean there are hundreds of players to me
Speaker 1: that I wrote about. Most of them. I knew there
Speaker 1: was some pretty obscure minor leaders that got trade I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't and to come I several I just punted
Speaker 1: on it. I don't know this guy is. Don't kill me.
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. Just moved.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's not the right time
Speaker 2: to be playing around that Google thing, is it.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, you get these guys. I
Speaker 1: mean there's so many of them, and I mean there's
Speaker 1: some sixteen seven year old Latin players that got moved
Speaker 1: and uh and then you know twenty eight year old
Speaker 1: rookies and I mean there it covered the gampit. So
Speaker 1: I'll let you go first. Like you you were following
Speaker 1: it along yesterday, how did you think it all went.
Speaker 1: Were there any like major surprises that you thought maybe
Speaker 1: guys that didn't get moved that you thought were going
Speaker 1: to get moved? What was your general impression.
Speaker 2: Well, I spent most of the day going TikTok TikTok
Speaker 2: with Foster Griffin because I thought for sure he's going
Speaker 2: to get moved, right, Yeah, he's on a one year deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Then finally he did get moved a little bit later
Speaker 2: on in the day. Uh. I think the one move
Speaker 2: that I sort of said wow too, that that I
Speaker 2: really liked was the Guardians acquiring Joe Adell. That was that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I because they needed that bad okay. You know though
Speaker 2: the White Sox are, they're not backing off. And for
Speaker 2: the Guardians to go after jo Adell that said to
Speaker 2: me that, yeah, hey, we're serious about this game too. Okay.
Speaker 2: They needed a bopper and they went and got one.
Speaker 2: And the one the big wow factor trade for me
Speaker 2: was the Red Sox trade with in their division. I
Speaker 2: was like, what, like, come on, I A hey, I
Speaker 2: I know many many prospects, you know, don't make it, okay,
Speaker 2: we're you know, of the hundreds of aspects that you've
Speaker 2: discussed has been traded in the past the past couple
Speaker 2: of days. Yeah, a good chunk of them will never
Speaker 2: see the late of major League Baseball. But to give
Speaker 2: up three prospects of the stature that the Orioles gave
Speaker 2: up for Adley Rushman one.
Speaker 1: Year, one year, one plus year of Adlie Ruschman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that and we're talking Adlee Rushman, who's on the
Speaker 2: I L we don't know is how he's going to
Speaker 2: be able to handle catching movie for I. I just uh,
Speaker 2: I was shocked that. Uh, you know, Hynson and Witherspoon
Speaker 2: and as a carbon the three of them, and it
Speaker 2: ended up in Baltimore. That's that's rebuilding a minor league
Speaker 2: system on the fly quickly, isn't it. Well.
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't really need to because it was
Speaker 1: pretty strong to begin with. But uh, look, we talked
Speaker 1: about it with the Red Sox. Yeah, the Red Sox,
Speaker 1: the Yankees, the card these really huge fan base areas.
Speaker 1: I mean they they they they're active, right, and the
Speaker 1: Red Sox when they went through a row, I mean
Speaker 1: they went from big sellers. I mean we many times
Speaker 1: we talked about role as Chapman getting moved and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they're adding in a big way, and
Speaker 1: I it was fun. That part was fun. It was
Speaker 1: actually good to see those those teams who felt like
Speaker 1: they they had a chance to add to it, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about the Padres. I do not know what's going
Speaker 1: on with the Padres. I don't know why they keep
Speaker 1: doing what they're doing. But that's just me. I was
Speaker 1: disappointed in the Orioles. I mean, they're right there with
Speaker 1: the Red Sox and they decided to be sellers.
Speaker 3: And it's like, really think that, Yeah they were, they
Speaker 3: were breaking, they had a shot, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're in it to win it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, not good. It's just not this year apparently.
Speaker 1: Well, I've been literally in the middle of this, and
Speaker 1: I had a chance to think about each and every
Speaker 1: one of these trades, and you know, I looked at
Speaker 1: it from a baseball perspective, but mostly from a player perspective,
Speaker 1: heavily from a Dynasty league perspective, and I made a
Speaker 1: couple of observations. The the better trades were done earlier,
Speaker 1: the more thoughtful trades where you were able to actually
Speaker 1: take it. Like I thought, the Trek Scooba trade was great.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Dodgers put the hammer down and they
Speaker 1: got the guy they wanted. The Troy got great prospects
Speaker 1: in return. But as the day wore on, well yesterday,
Speaker 1: the it almost seemed chaotic in terms of like like
Speaker 1: they like some of the guys. Some of the trades
Speaker 1: that were made after two o'clock were with teams that
Speaker 1: they lost out on the earlier trades, and they were
Speaker 1: just like, okay, I'll take him, and I'll take him.
Speaker 1: And if you look at it and you go, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? You know what is it? Does this
Speaker 1: make sense to me? Like the Yankees, I thought it
Speaker 1: was pure Hannick mode. I mean I don't even understand
Speaker 1: what they're doing. I get it. Aaron Judges, I mean
Speaker 1: Aaron Judges hurt and he might be hurt for the
Speaker 1: rest of the season. The way they kind of haphazardly
Speaker 1: just started bringing in guys. I mean, Lewis Carcia is
Speaker 1: a good player, paraly I mean it's like that they
Speaker 1: have like twelve of those Luis carcia Is on their
Speaker 1: team already.
Speaker 2: It was, Yeah, it was just weird.
Speaker 1: You know, to kind of see some of the chaotic
Speaker 1: nature of everything. And the Dustin Ma trade, I mean,
Speaker 1: holy moly, that's that was the one. I looked at
Speaker 1: each trade of mostly how do I get this work done?
Speaker 1: When I saw one for one trade, I'm like, hallelujah.
Speaker 1: I could do this one quickly. But when I saw
Speaker 1: six players involved, it's like, oh shit, I look at
Speaker 1: the names. I don't know who that is. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 2: A while, yeah, well yeah, you start seventeen eighteen year
Speaker 2: old kids getting moved all over the place. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: not a lot of fun. Then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was that was kind of that was
Speaker 1: kind of my emotion kind of going through and I
Speaker 1: was looking at it, how do I get through this?
Speaker 1: But the only one that really struck me that I
Speaker 1: was really upset about was that that trade the Brewers
Speaker 1: did for Dustin May. And I'm like, what are they doing?
Speaker 1: Like what what I mean, what are you doing for
Speaker 1: two months of Dustin May? You're giving up these guys
Speaker 1: and Dustin they could literally go out tomorrow Timmy and
Speaker 1: his arm's gone. I didn't understand it.
Speaker 2: Yeah that hey, yeah, they're playing risk reward and the
Speaker 2: two guys Jojo Romero, I like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a tritel though, that's that's yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, obviously the Brewis hoped that was all all
Speaker 2: the holes they had to fill. I I, hey, I
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'll leave it.
Speaker 1: Prospect Capital that they have and and and Alexander Freese
Speaker 1: man he looks really really good. And Ragsdale's a guy,
Speaker 1: but that's a big bat. And all they got with
Speaker 1: all of that capital, all they got was Dustin May
Speaker 1: who again having a nice bounce back season, but that
Speaker 1: is a number three four guy, and it's like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing, Like, get somebody good, go for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they played it very, very boringly safe. Yes, definitely. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The other thing that left out to me looking at
Speaker 2: this whole thing is, hey, if you need a relief pitcher,
Speaker 2: they're there. Relievers moved all over the place yesterday and
Speaker 2: everybody you know that needed to beefed up their bookpins
Speaker 2: and even the pirates got into the fray by grabbing
Speaker 2: Luke Weaver and they're going to pay him a eleven
Speaker 2: million next year. I gave.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a great trade. By the way,
Speaker 1: I love that Luke Weaver trade. We'll talk about that
Speaker 1: in a few minutes. Again, I went through each and
Speaker 1: every traits I analyzed this, and my other take was, boy,
Speaker 1: believers are still expensive. I mean, teams are willing to
Speaker 1: give up. I mean Eric Miller that you brought up
Speaker 1: on Sunday he went that cost a lot, uh in
Speaker 1: that trade, and he's I mean I did in a
Speaker 1: deep in deep diving. That's nasty, nasty stuff. And it's
Speaker 1: no wonder you know that that The price was what
Speaker 1: it was and the Giants got a nice return. But bats, Timmy,
Speaker 1: you want to power bat it's fifty cents on the dollar.
Speaker 1: Those guys, Yeah, just did not cost a lot.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, batterers with flaws, Hey, we we got you.
Speaker 2: I was happy with the Jays did. The Jays made
Speaker 2: a pile of moves and overall I liked what the
Speaker 2: Jays did. Yep, it made a lot of your show.
Speaker 1: Really cost them much? I mean did, I mean?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: I mean he was pretty The return was just okay,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: He was involved was he was originally traded to the
Speaker 2: Jays from the Diamond Back. If I'm not mistaken, he
Speaker 2: was part of the Marine the Marine ordeal. But you
Speaker 2: know what what I as much as i've I've ragged
Speaker 2: gone about Spencer Ragedtty and the control issues, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of things to like there.
Speaker 1: Okay, I love that trade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, one for one Marshal for aragedy. Hey,
Speaker 2: the only person who is going to be uh, struggling
Speaker 2: okay in the next six months, and it is going
Speaker 2: to earn every sense of his contract. Is a pitching coach,
Speaker 2: Pete Pete Walker, because they've got a whole rotation of
Speaker 2: guys that have trouble throwing strikes. If he can get
Speaker 2: some of these guys throwing strikes, and Jays could could
Speaker 2: could be very happy with the way things work out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's let's go through these. We're gonna I
Speaker 1: read about thirty four of them. We're gonna do ten
Speaker 1: to fifteen. I just brought up the Guardians acquired Joe
Speaker 1: A Dell and that was not the first one we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about today, but you brought it up. The
Speaker 1: Guardians cart all from the Angels and again they picked
Speaker 1: up the one and a half million dollars remain on
Speaker 1: the contract. But it only costs a minor league catch
Speaker 1: up Jacob Cozart, And that was my point. I mean,
Speaker 1: he wasn't all that expensive. And let's face it, Timmy,
Speaker 1: the Guardians needed power. Bet Joe Adell is not the
Speaker 1: kind of guy they like. He never walks, he swings
Speaker 1: for the fences. His power has been down. The exit
Speaker 1: velocity has come down. Having said all that, I thought
Speaker 1: it was a great addition. I mean, the Guardians in
Speaker 1: need Joe Adell or somebody like that. What say you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly as much as the Guardians have a plan,
Speaker 2: and they do, they also realized that they needed a
Speaker 2: bit more okay than with their plan was currently giving them.
Speaker 2: So they went out and they chased the power bet
Speaker 2: and they got one in Joe Adell. You know, it
Speaker 2: definitely improves their lineup in a big way.
Speaker 1: I like it, But Joe Dell's having a bit of
Speaker 1: a down seas He's not if the thirty two home
Speaker 1: run guy was last season. The ex velocity is off.
Speaker 1: I still think he's a twenty five arm run bat
Speaker 1: and I think he helps him. And uh, kudos to
Speaker 1: their guardians for for putting away their analytics chart and saying,
Speaker 1: let's just get a guy that can hit some home runs.
Speaker 1: Or absolutely loved.
Speaker 2: It or did they pull their chart out and see
Speaker 2: we got no power you know? Either either way, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's something they needed. They addressed that. It need good
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they should have done this years ago, Timmy.
Speaker 1: They should have been bringing I mean they tried no
Speaker 1: ld Johnski and those kinds. But this is a yeah, man,
Speaker 1: these this is a legit two thirty batting average guy
Speaker 1: with twenty five twenty five on run pop that you
Speaker 1: can actually get some production out of it. And I thought
Speaker 1: it was a great move. I think after the Trek
Speaker 1: Scooball deal, to me, the most impactful deal and the
Speaker 1: biggest return, as you said, was the Red Sox acquiring
Speaker 1: Adlie Rutchman. My wife has been very upset about, uh,
Speaker 1: the Orioles moving on him, and I let her read
Speaker 1: the article and I said, this is why they did it,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, this is just what happens. And
Speaker 1: she says, the fans are very upset. I'm like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but Adley Rutchman is he's gonna he's going to be
Speaker 1: in a He's going to be in a race, and
Speaker 1: I am sure the Orioles try to cut a deal
Speaker 1: with him. His representative said no, and you know, they
Speaker 1: had to do what's right for their baseball team. But
Speaker 1: he goes, along with Jake Rogers from the Orioles for
Speaker 1: car for Carlos to the Red Sox for Carlos, Nevaias
Speaker 1: and three prospects. Anthony Ainsen case of Witherspoon their last year,
Speaker 1: their number one draft pick, and Eddie Scara, who asked,
Speaker 1: asked as car as a car as a car is uh?
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's been an up and coming guy.
Speaker 1: But tell me what you thought your thoughts are? When
Speaker 1: do we see Athley Rutchment back. They've got him all
Speaker 1: for next year, which again it might be that shorts
Speaker 1: strike shortened season. What do you think of the deal?
Speaker 2: Ah? I think the Red Sox gave up too much.
Speaker 2: I really do. Hey, now, granted they needed to catch her,
Speaker 2: but man, they gave up a ton Bradley Rutchman, and hey,
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta give it to give it to
Speaker 2: the Red Sox for for going all in. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But at the same point in time, man, especially it's
Speaker 2: and he could be a heck of a fight now
Speaker 2: as far as Baltimore's concerned, Yeah, it makes it makes
Speaker 2: sense to doing what they're doing. But at the same
Speaker 2: point in time, is this just give them a chance
Speaker 2: to load up on the prospects and go through the
Speaker 2: same thing they just went through over the past four years.
Speaker 2: We got the best system and we got all the prospects. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And what have they got to show for it. Nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't really move. I mean there was talk
Speaker 1: of the moving Jackson Holland, he was talk of them
Speaker 1: moving Cowser, there was talk of them moving Dylan Beavers.
Speaker 1: They pretty much kept that lineup intact. In that lineup,
Speaker 1: let's face it has underperformed. And yes, it would have
Speaker 1: been nice to have seen them try to crawl back.
Speaker 1: You know, some kind of bat that could actually help them.
Speaker 1: I mean Taylor Ward, which I don't know if we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about Taylor Ward. I had a deep
Speaker 1: dive on that that he's a big reason that the
Speaker 1: Orioles weren't very good this season. This is a guy
Speaker 1: that just he decided to cut down his leverage on
Speaker 1: the swing. I don't know if this is direction from
Speaker 1: the Orioles. He was a total uphill swing guy, like
Speaker 1: a twenty three degree launch angle. He went down to
Speaker 1: like twelve for scent.
Speaker 2: That's a huge change in approach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and guess what, his strikeout rate almost got cutting half,
Speaker 1: which is great. So now all of a sudden he's
Speaker 1: making better contact. Yeah, he's more, but he's more of
Speaker 1: a light any leadoff batter, I'm not sure that's what
Speaker 1: the Orioles wanted. And it's like, I'm wondering, on his
Speaker 1: new team, is he going to turn back? They're going
Speaker 1: to go just hit home runs and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he's going to be the guy that hit thirty six
Speaker 1: on runs in twenty twenty five, not the guy that's
Speaker 1: hitting seven.
Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, if the if the Orioles wanted Luisa Rise,
Speaker 2: they could have got him. That's right, they did. They
Speaker 2: didn't have to take and modify somebody into him, right yep.
Speaker 1: And it's fun for me to do this analysis and
Speaker 1: you sit there and you look at it and you
Speaker 1: know that leveraging a swing causes more strikeouts and you
Speaker 1: know the reverse is true, and actually see it play
Speaker 1: out and see a player what he did in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, see what they're doing in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: and then identify, i mean, where those changes were made.
Speaker 1: It's actually a really cool thing. But then you go,
Speaker 1: what is going on here? Why is he doing this?
Speaker 1: Like hit home runs?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we're that's what we're paying you the
Speaker 2: big bucks for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like, yeah, I can find a guy
Speaker 1: that hits me seven home runs. I can't find a
Speaker 1: guy that hits me thirty six home runs.
Speaker 2: Well exactly. Yeah, and you know a Ward ended up
Speaker 2: in Seattle and he was about the only significant batting
Speaker 2: ad that they made. I was very disappointed with the
Speaker 2: Mariners coming out of this. I think they needed more
Speaker 2: than what they got.
Speaker 1: Totally agree, and I run the analysis like, this isn't
Speaker 1: this isn't twenty twenty five, Taylor war, this is twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six. Now, maybe again they tell him to switch back,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he can just do that. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: sure I could do that again. I think that's going
Speaker 1: to take some time for head river back to the guy.
Speaker 1: And I don't think the Mariners need a seven home
Speaker 1: run guy hitting at the lane offf They got Cole
Speaker 1: Young for that. That's Cole Young, Okay.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they've they've got They've got that covered. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you look at their lineup and other than Julio Rodriguez,
Speaker 2: you know, Rose Arena will be be a twenty twenty
Speaker 2: type player. But other than Julio Rodriguez and Calorad, they
Speaker 2: needed some power. They still have Weston Wilson at third base.
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, it's yeah, no, that's I was disappointed
Speaker 2: in what happened with the Mariners. Very disappointed.
Speaker 1: So just a quick rundown on these three prospects. Anthony
Speaker 1: Iinson has been one of the true breakout pitchers in
Speaker 1: the minor leagues this season double a and high ace
Speaker 1: pitch into a one thirty two ear a, striking out
Speaker 1: more than twelve for nine. The walks have tipped ticked
Speaker 1: up a little bit after the promotion, but this is
Speaker 1: the top of the rotation guy. This is the best
Speaker 1: pitching prospects the Orioles have had since Grayson Rodriguez. And
Speaker 1: I do love kateon Hunter, who's with the Orioles now,
Speaker 1: But this is a This is a guy that you
Speaker 1: can see in twenty twenty seven that's going to come
Speaker 1: up in a couple of years, going to really establish himself.
Speaker 1: Cason Witherspoon was their first round draft pick, a great arm.
Speaker 1: The Red Sox did a good job with him. They
Speaker 1: changed his mechanics around to get him straighter to the plate.
Speaker 1: After six weeks or two months of really poor performance,
Speaker 1: he started to put it together. I think he's a
Speaker 1: much better pitcher than when he started off the year
Speaker 1: with to what the Orioles are getting again, another guy
Speaker 1: that could be a mid rotation starter. And then Indy
Speaker 1: as a car is just blown up this year as well,
Speaker 1: and he's made a lot of strides and there's something good. Tammy.
Speaker 1: Carlos Novaias is a backup catcher. I mean, they need
Speaker 1: a backup catcher. Now you've got once, oh, the catcher
Speaker 1: with the Orioles, now, big guy, once he comes back
Speaker 1: from off the il. I think Narvaiz will be a
Speaker 1: nice little backup for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, hey, and hey, kudos, hey to the
Speaker 2: Red Sox. You know, it's so funny how quickly our
Speaker 2: game changes. A month, a little bit more than a
Speaker 2: month ago, we were looking at the Red Sox Soox
Speaker 2: being sellers. Yeah, and then they win twenty five or
Speaker 2: thirty games or whatever it was, and they're right in
Speaker 2: the heart of the race. Crazy, Oh quickly things can change.
Speaker 1: I had read that the the Red Sox are obviously
Speaker 1: looking for shortstop help and Zach Needo was being kind
Speaker 1: of dangled out there, but they wanted Franklin a rise,
Speaker 1: and rightly so the Red Sox says no, no, thank you.
Speaker 1: And I think that was a smart move for them,
Speaker 1: because I think that would have been a complete overpay
Speaker 1: because Franklin Ryo could probably be in the major leagues now,
Speaker 1: He's definitely going to be there in two thousands twenty seven,
Speaker 1: and you just don't trade that guy.
Speaker 2: No, and you've got Trevor Story, who will be back
Speaker 2: sometime in August. That will suffice in the middle of
Speaker 2: envy for Boss, and that'll be an upgrade over what
Speaker 2: they have right now just by using Stories. So why
Speaker 2: would you why would you play the Franklin the Rise game. No,
Speaker 2: that would be that would have been silly, I believe Timmy.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and come back. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Yankees. I said it at the top of the show.
Speaker 1: I think the Yankees panic. I'm afraid Aaron Judge might
Speaker 1: be more hurt than we think, or that we know
Speaker 1: and have to speculate. I haven't heard that, but I
Speaker 1: mean they, I mean they, I mean they traded for
Speaker 1: Lewis Garcia from the Nationals. They gave up Ivanni Cruz,
Speaker 1: Timmy who I don't know, But you think that's going
Speaker 1: to be their closer. That guy's like one hundred miles
Speaker 1: an hour, nasty slider, Jake Bird and Jackson. I mean,
Speaker 1: but it's about Giovanni Cruz and Louis Garcia's a good
Speaker 1: players power. He has already hit a home run. But
Speaker 1: like now they're saying, well, he'll play part d H
Speaker 1: and part first base and then Ben Rice old party.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, what's going to how it happens with
Speaker 1: gacrrows Stan comes back. It's like the Yankees they got
Speaker 1: one prototype guys that hit home runs and Garcia doesn't
Speaker 1: even walk ever. Guys that hit home runs that are
Speaker 1: slow footed and clog up the bases. That's who the
Speaker 1: Yankees have become.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and what you've done is you've taken Ben
Speaker 2: Rice off first base, slid him into the DH slide,
Speaker 2: and we're starting to hear, you know, we're hearing that
Speaker 2: Ben Rayce is going to do some catching. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: next year is not a problem with Ben Rice because
Speaker 2: he's first base eligible based on this year. But next
Speaker 2: year that could be a real problem. We could be
Speaker 2: looking at them race as a full time DH and
Speaker 2: I would much rather see him having first base or
Speaker 2: catch your eligibility. He's not going to have catch your eligibility.
Speaker 2: I doubt he's going to get twenty games in before
Speaker 2: the end of the year. But again it's clogged things
Speaker 2: up because again you've got Luis Garcia platooning with Paul
Speaker 2: Goldsman because they're not going to take Goldsman out of
Speaker 2: the lineup against lefties. You know that's not going to happen.
Speaker 2: They'll they'll move Garcia to d AH.
Speaker 1: So you you think Ben Rice is going to lose
Speaker 1: playing time, then.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to lose playing time. But
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to play at first base.
Speaker 2: I think he's going to He's going to catch occasionally.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm hearing is they're going to use him
Speaker 2: and use him as the catcher. It'll be the full
Speaker 2: time DH. You know, Goldschmid will hit against, He'll be
Speaker 2: in the lineup against lefties, Garcia should play, will shift
Speaker 2: to d H and Ben Rachel catch over Austin Wells. Again,
Speaker 2: it's you're you're taking your back this year and moving
Speaker 2: him from first base to catcher with two months left
Speaker 2: in the season. That to me just does not sound
Speaker 2: functioning properly. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, look, this is baseball, not
Speaker 1: fantasy based. That's not a very good catcher. I mean
Speaker 1: is Garrett Cole going to be excited your slitler going
Speaker 1: to be excited? Uh oh, captain and have Ben Rice today,
Speaker 1: love and Rice, but I don't want him.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's creating. They tried to resolve a problem,
Speaker 2: but but by resolving a problem and getting more power
Speaker 2: into that lineup, they've created another problem. Okay, and then
Speaker 2: from that other problem, you've created another problem and another problem.
Speaker 2: And it's it's a very candidly, Timmy.
Speaker 1: They do this all the time. This is what, like
Speaker 1: I mean, Jane Color said, is a perfect example of
Speaker 1: why did they acquire that guy?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Well, because they needed a d H.
Speaker 2: They need the big power bad and they and they
Speaker 2: could pay for it, and they did pay for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah and then now around their neck.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, it's yeah, the the Yankees are definitely putting
Speaker 2: the disc in dysfunctional. Yeah, it's I like Lewis Garcia,
Speaker 2: that guy is.
Speaker 1: I mean, you take a look at his basements on
Speaker 1: page it's just completely red. It's a it's a power
Speaker 1: hitting first basement. He's a good player. I just I mean,
Speaker 1: but I did the analysis power hitting, they were plentiful, Timmy.
Speaker 1: You could have had your pick of the litter. They
Speaker 1: could have gotten the power hitting outfielder. Uh and it
Speaker 1: actually made a little bit more sense. And then they
Speaker 1: you know, they try to get a power hitting I
Speaker 1: mean Elliott Ramos and that's that's that was their outfield
Speaker 1: help thee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put, they put, spent, they put, and they
Speaker 2: sent Spencer down, who was hit home runs in three
Speaker 2: of the past four or five.
Speaker 1: I did send him down. I thought he was when
Speaker 1: I last I looked he was. He was gonna be
Speaker 1: the other corner.
Speaker 2: So he's down, I believe.
Speaker 1: So I know Dimingo's got sent down yesterday along with
Speaker 1: Anthony Volpi and George Lombard is up.
Speaker 2: No, sorry, Spencer Jones is still up. Sorry, Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was Domingus Dimingus who went down. Sorry, rich my bad.
Speaker 2: So they meant that they sent somebody down that they
Speaker 2: really didn't have to. Would you rather have Domingus or
Speaker 2: Ramos or does it matter to me? It doesn't matter why.
Speaker 1: Well, Domingos can't hit lefties. He's a better defender than Ramos,
Speaker 1: but he had just hasn't He just hasn't it. I mean,
Speaker 1: and I Ramos got a little power never walk Spencer Jones.
Speaker 1: I mean is he got two strikeout machines now on
Speaker 1: the outfield. The Yankees, I don't know what they're doing, Timmy.
Speaker 1: And they give up Henry Lelane, who was a reclamation
Speaker 1: project for them. It looked like one of the best
Speaker 1: young arms two years ago and just went to the
Speaker 1: desert with arm injury and other kind of problems. And
Speaker 1: he's returned to me and it's just I mean, lighting
Speaker 1: it up. And that's who they traded for Elliott Ramos. Wow.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and they have in their starting nine. They
Speaker 2: they've got two right handed bets in their starting nine,
Speaker 2: one of which they created for Ramos. You're looking at Grisham,
Speaker 2: Rice Garcia, Joan Jazz, Chisholm, Ryan McMahon. They're all left
Speaker 2: handed bets. They got two right handed bets in that lineup,
Speaker 2: and one of them they traded at the deadline, four
Speaker 2: in Elliott Ramos. Yeah, it's yeah, they're at some point
Speaker 2: in time, they're gonna they're gonna face good left hand
Speaker 2: did pitching and it's gonna be ugly, totally ugly.
Speaker 1: I think they panicked him. I think they got down
Speaker 1: to the day before the uh for the trade deadline
Speaker 1: and go, oh, judges not coming back and what are
Speaker 1: we going to do? And it's just, you know, just
Speaker 1: got out the board and said let's just start trying
Speaker 1: to make deals. And they overpaid and I don't. I
Speaker 1: didn't like what they did at all.
Speaker 2: No, I I agree. I think they're going to finish
Speaker 2: third in that division by default.
Speaker 1: They very well could. Let's see, So the Blue Jays
Speaker 1: acquire Jose Sorianna from the Angels for three minor leaguers,
Speaker 1: Arjen Dalala, which is a first round traffick Eddie, Michael
Speaker 1: Eddie and Angel In a right handed pitcher, Angel Rivera.
Speaker 1: What are the the Toronto Faithful saying about this.
Speaker 2: The Initially I'm hearing that people were upset, okay, that
Speaker 2: they were acquiring a picture that yeah, there's trouble throwing
Speaker 2: strikes and giving up themala to do it. But they
Speaker 2: got Jojo Parker, Okay, So he's obviously the Blue Jays
Speaker 2: have stated their case as to where their future is going,
Speaker 2: and it's going to be Parker. I again, this is
Speaker 2: this is this is going to earn Pete Walker a bonus, okay,
Speaker 2: because Sorrianna is a fine catcher. He's twenty seven, he's
Speaker 2: under control for several years. If they can find a
Speaker 2: way to get him to throw more strikes Sorriano, for
Speaker 2: those three minor leaguers could prove to be a steal.
Speaker 2: And you look at Sorriano, Eric Getty punts, Dylan says,
Speaker 2: the Jay's retooled on the fly. I like what they
Speaker 2: did across the board again Soriano. Yeah, there's there's some
Speaker 2: things that have to be straightened out. But if they
Speaker 2: can find a way to get him to throw more strikes,
Speaker 2: that could prove to be a steal in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was interesting when when I wrote this, it's
Speaker 1: uh so I wrote this yesterday and I wrote last
Speaker 1: like the Blue Jay's traded away Kevin Goussman and then
Speaker 1: immediately turned around and traded for Jose Jose Soriana, and
Speaker 1: I did. I did the quote for there's a movie
Speaker 1: My my mother, my sister, My mother, my sister, So
Speaker 1: that was the line I put in there. And obviously
Speaker 1: I talked about you and I discussed in Soriana when
Speaker 1: you have the sub I think it was a point
Speaker 1: two five.
Speaker 2: Year rate for four stars Pitture of the Month in April.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it just all correct it like we thought.
Speaker 1: Now as x Era stands at four thirty three, which
Speaker 1: is actually higher than it's been the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got decent stuff. I mean, he's not
Speaker 1: Kevin Gousman. No, but I mean it's not before kind
Speaker 1: of picture. But they gave up an awful lot for Siano.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like, hey, they did give up a lot,
Speaker 2: but I liked what they did because the players that
Speaker 2: they acquired along with Eric Eddy, Yeah, yeah, there's upside there.
Speaker 2: They they're they you know what I mean. It's not
Speaker 2: like they traded for Mitch Keller. Oh yeah, there's some
Speaker 2: up There's some upside sitting there. And when I look
Speaker 2: at the Jay's heading into next year, yeah, ghost, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be at all shocked if Kevin Gossman is back
Speaker 2: in Toronto on a two three year deal. He was.
Speaker 2: That was the trade that upset the Blue They faithful
Speaker 2: in a big way, and I get it. Kevin Gossman
Speaker 2: was was an ambassador for that baseball team. He had
Speaker 2: nothing but good things to say about Toronto, Canada. He
Speaker 2: loved it up here. And if you've looked at any
Speaker 2: of his tweets on Twitter and and the Blue Jays fans,
Speaker 2: they loved him back. It was a great fit. He
Speaker 2: he That was one of the best signings the Jays
Speaker 2: have ever done, was getting Ghostan. So I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: shocked at all if he's back in Toronto next year.
Speaker 2: And you look at what the Jays have to throw
Speaker 2: out here. You know you got Cees, they still have Beaver.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we can write dog that off,
Speaker 2: but you Savage Sriano, Cody Pons didn't pitch at all
Speaker 2: last year. Eric Getty, the bullpen's deep and talented. I
Speaker 2: like what the Jays did, I really did. I think
Speaker 2: they retooled on the fly, and the price was not
Speaker 2: such that it was like Boston Boston rich, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: Lamala's chance to be very very good. It's a big bat.
Speaker 1: He has not yet developed, I will grant you that,
Speaker 1: but you know, the underlying stats says that eventually that's
Speaker 1: going to come. He's pretty athletic. So I think they
Speaker 1: gave up an awful lot for Jose Sriana. In fact,
Speaker 1: I actually think the Angels overall did pretty well by
Speaker 1: finally getting some talented guys in there on their squad.
Speaker 2: But poor Mike Trow.
Speaker 1: You know, I was about to say that, like he
Speaker 1: didn't get moved. Wouldn't that have been a perfect fit
Speaker 1: for the Yankees in the outfield. Maybe they didn't want
Speaker 1: to assume all of that extra money because it's just
Speaker 1: another Giancarlo Stanton, But at least that's a player.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, and the Phillies improved their their lot
Speaker 2: in life as well. But Mike Trows a Philly boy,
Speaker 2: isn't he? Yes, yes, yes, so yeah no. So I
Speaker 2: I'm okay with what the Jays did. I'm perfectly fine
Speaker 2: with that. They do have so they were work cut out.
Speaker 2: But all they gotta do is find it where you
Speaker 2: get these guys to throw a few more strikes and
Speaker 2: if you walk a few less. Yeah, I'm sure everybody's
Speaker 2: interested in what Dylan Cees is throwing these days. The
Speaker 2: Jays will use that with their new acquisitions.
Speaker 1: Dy Dylan system monsters. So I'm going to turn this
Speaker 1: next one over to you, Tim, because I am at
Speaker 1: a loss about the love affair that major some Major
Speaker 1: League Baseball teams have with Lewis and Rise. I just
Speaker 1: do not get it.
Speaker 2: It's it's simple, Uh, it's a perfect fit in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Absolutely the absolutely perfect fit. Do you want trade Turners?
Speaker 2: Do you want trade Turners? Two ninety nine? Obp hitting
Speaker 2: in the ladofs but uh no, I can't see it.
Speaker 2: You need to Rise in the leadoff spot.
Speaker 1: Is it going to be in the lead.
Speaker 2: It's not showing as such, but I have to think
Speaker 2: that is going to that is going to happen. I'm
Speaker 2: betting on that happening. You put them in the leadoff spot,
Speaker 2: Slapman there, and then you've got Schwarber and Harper, and
Speaker 2: then you moved you moved tray Turner into four or
Speaker 2: five with Alex Baum.
Speaker 1: Uh wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. You did
Speaker 1: not read my analysis. That's because I thought through this.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I wrote in yes, put Lewis Rise at
Speaker 1: the leadof Schwarburn Harbor after I right, I understand the theory.
Speaker 1: I just don't agree with it. But that's just me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then yeah, I get Okay, So, so where does
Speaker 1: Lewis a Rise play?
Speaker 2: Uh, Lewis Rise is playing.
Speaker 1: We're second base. I'll help you out second base, okay.
Speaker 2: And then moving braces start to third base. Bruce, he's
Speaker 2: gonna play first. Bryce Harper is in the yoakfield.
Speaker 1: Okay, stop, let's stop. Stop stop. You cannot do that,
Speaker 1: so you can't it. That makes that is bad general management.
Speaker 1: I am sorry. You're taking a thirty four year old player,
Speaker 1: you know, the the leader of that team along with Schwarber,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna subject him. We've we've seen Bryce Harper
Speaker 1: play ryfield where the guy runs into walls. You cannot
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: What's that he's all growed up. Now he's ran into
Speaker 2: them all. He doesn't need to do it twice unless
Speaker 2: he's done.
Speaker 1: Okay, The end result of buying of trading for Lewis
Speaker 1: a rise is that Bryce Harper plays in the outfield.
Speaker 1: That's the accommodation you're making. I think that's idiotic. That
Speaker 1: is idiotic. I'm I think.
Speaker 2: I think what Philadelphia is saying is we non bas
Speaker 2: guy in our lineup in a big way, and that's
Speaker 2: the price that we'll pay. But Lewis and one base is.
Speaker 1: Based on the fact that he never he makes such
Speaker 1: good contact if they're swing and missing it, he never walks.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's up there hacking away. So it's not
Speaker 1: like like we saw last season he was a terrible
Speaker 1: one base guy because he didn't hit the ball, So
Speaker 1: that does happen. You need to find somebody like Schwarber
Speaker 1: who walks on. There's a lot of one based guys.
Speaker 1: They could have taken anybody off the Guardian's system and
Speaker 1: they get added one base guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again they got to get trained great turner
Speaker 2: of the leadoff spot. They don't want to put Shorber
Speaker 2: in in their best bat in the leadoff spot, so
Speaker 2: they had to get somebody and arise as an OBP
Speaker 2: at three sixty? How many more runs are generated? Run
Speaker 2: score are generated with a three sixty versus the two
Speaker 2: ninety nine OBB. Would I have done it? No?
Speaker 1: I get the theory and I yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: I'd rather have a true one base percentage guy, which
Speaker 1: is a guy walks a lot with solid strikeout rates,
Speaker 1: not a guy who never strikes out and can't provide
Speaker 1: anything else and just to slap them all around to
Speaker 1: try to get that. We saw it last year. He
Speaker 1: can have streaks and that lasted most of last year.
Speaker 1: We never gets on base, and then you have nothing,
Speaker 1: You got a zero in your line up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what the Philly said is this is
Speaker 2: what we need. We need to lead off at Louise Rises.
Speaker 2: It would I have done it? No, I probably wouldn't have.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not a Louise Rise fan. I never
Speaker 2: have been. But at the same point in time, Philly
Speaker 2: decided that's how they're going to do it, and they
Speaker 2: went and did it.
Speaker 1: So, hey, that's a mistake. When when Bryce Harper comes
Speaker 1: up lame in the middle of decem in the middle
Speaker 1: of September, don't come to me. It's like I tell
Speaker 1: my kids, when you screw this up, I'm not here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got I'm hearing. Don't cry for me, Rich
Speaker 2: Wilson exactly. Yeah, don't gray at me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's how they decided to approach it, and
Speaker 2: they they did it. It's as simple as that. Well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what what I did like was the fact that the
Speaker 2: Phillies picked up Killian and Brooksrelly elbow in that bullpen.
Speaker 2: Smart move I both. Yeah, pretty much everybody found a
Speaker 2: way to improve their bullpen.
Speaker 1: I will say the Giants did well this. Lewisa Rise
Speaker 1: tray Ramon Marquez has got a great arm. He might
Speaker 1: be he might be a bullpen arm long term, but
Speaker 1: he's posting one sixty eighty or a ninety three strike
Speaker 1: counts of nineteen walks. Yeah, it's it's it's really good stuff.
Speaker 1: So then and they got some other guys too, But
Speaker 1: that was the big one. And sure Lewis a rise
Speaker 1: or rental for Lewis ri and Caleb killing is okay,
Speaker 1: But I mean that's what I I just I I'll
Speaker 1: once he retires, I'll never understand the Lewis or Rays
Speaker 1: love affair with it. I just don't get it. You
Speaker 1: can get to on base percentage a different way than
Speaker 1: somebody who strikes out eight percent of the time with
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing else to offer. I'll never understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a Dave Dombroski trade.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Dan Dombroski's right. I had a dumb Yeah,
Speaker 1: he needs to retire. That's that's the nineteen seventies trade.
Speaker 2: Ye yeah, yeah it did really annoys retire. Dave will retire, okay,
Speaker 2: and somebody else will have to pick up the pieces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody with a understand I know. Let's move on
Speaker 1: to me take a break in the brewers the dust
Speaker 1: in may Well, we're gonna do that one next. That
Speaker 1: was the other one that really ticked me off.
Speaker 2: Yes, I be for coming on.
Speaker 1: Look, no one's happier for Dustin May than me. I've
Speaker 1: always had a soft spot for Dustin May. He's got
Speaker 1: the great look. I loved it when he had the
Speaker 1: big hair. I mean it's a thing. And I owned
Speaker 1: Dustin May and multiple dinings of leagues when they got
Speaker 1: called up, and I enjoyed those four starts before he
Speaker 1: got Tommy John Surgery like everybody did.
Speaker 2: I mean I really did. And maybe more rich because
Speaker 2: you had the investment right yeah.
Speaker 1: And for I mean Dustin me seems like a like
Speaker 1: a gentle soul. He seems like a good dude, and
Speaker 1: it's just like he just can't stay healthy. It's two
Speaker 1: Tommy John Surgery's back to back and it's tough. And
Speaker 1: I love what because you and I were on doing
Speaker 1: a podcast recording when I stopped the show and I said,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at Dustin May's game outing that he's having.
Speaker 1: He's up to ninety eight miles an hour, and he
Speaker 1: said he was going to cut back on the velocity
Speaker 1: and he got to give it up to him that
Speaker 1: it was not working, so he needed to throw harder
Speaker 1: and it's it's helped Timmy and you know, He's pitched
Speaker 1: fairly well. He's not a great pitchers of expected area
Speaker 1: of three ninety one. It's a number four kind of.
Speaker 2: Starter and correct.
Speaker 1: And I get the Brewers really know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: It'll probably make Dustin May better and in the short
Speaker 1: time he'll be there. But they gave up Alex Freeze,
Speaker 1: who I think has a chance to be a special dude,
Speaker 1: and they had a who's who of prospects on their
Speaker 1: team and they chose to go down the Dustin May route.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry this one made me mad. It's not that
Speaker 1: I don't like Dustin May. It's not like I don't
Speaker 1: think he could help. But I think there was so
Speaker 1: many of them. They could have been maybe they were.
Speaker 1: They could have been in that Tarrek schoolble, and they
Speaker 1: might have been able to outbid the Dodgers for Trek
Speaker 1: schoolbel and they went Dustin May. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: That one's the head scratcher for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they they played the safe, They took the cautious,
Speaker 2: cautious approach. They they did. They did add to their
Speaker 2: bullpen with Senzatela, which which won't hurt uh and who
Speaker 2: else did they add another bullpen? That they got, they
Speaker 2: got Romero. Yeah, yeah, so they improved their bullpen. But
Speaker 2: basically they're going in with Miserowski, Sprote, Henderson, Dryan Gasser,
Speaker 2: Dust and may uh. Kyle Harrison will be back to
Speaker 2: this week. Quinn pre Priester. He ceased to Yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: they've they've got they've got depth in armies, but they
Speaker 2: don't after Miseroski and possibly Kyle Harrison. The top and
Speaker 2: bottom heavy with a lac in the middle.
Speaker 1: Does that make That's that's exactly what That's exactly a
Speaker 1: great analysis on that because I agree with you and
Speaker 1: ms Rawski fumbles in the playoffs and it's always possible
Speaker 1: to me as a young kid that and guys gonna
Speaker 1: have bad outings and all of a sudden you got
Speaker 1: a huge drop off and you know you're in a
Speaker 1: short series. You could be done.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, as far as the offense is concerned, and
Speaker 2: they don't have any problems there.
Speaker 1: It's they needed they needed a really good arm and
Speaker 1: I hope to God that works out for him, I
Speaker 1: really do. And and again they make guys better, but man,
Speaker 1: they're they're playing with fire with this one, and they
Speaker 1: did not need to. They had enough prospect capital to
Speaker 1: get whomever they wanted.
Speaker 2: They could have. Well, but again, hey, most most of
Speaker 2: the pictures were looking at the gun moved. Uh they're
Speaker 2: all one picture away from being on an I l Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: ghost Ghostman's up there, Freddy Peralta, casey my hurt right now,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean a lot of the pictures that
Speaker 2: got moved are older veteran teachers that yeah, dust to me, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you look at hurt.
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to play and that would
Speaker 1: have been the guy that I would have gone for.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's hurt worse than then I realized because the
Speaker 1: Padres acquired him.
Speaker 2: So yeah, right at the end, that was.
Speaker 1: Can we can we pivot to the Padres? That's another
Speaker 1: thing I I these are all the ones I've just
Speaker 1: did not get. I mean, I just like I I
Speaker 1: I appreciate what the Padres are doing. That they are
Speaker 1: at the end of their window. Uh, they're they're Manny
Speaker 1: Machado is not the same guy anymore. Well, the shortstop
Speaker 1: is brutal. Who is that that short Uh? Former boss
Speaker 1: in red sox Xavier uh Xander Bogart.
Speaker 2: Is not the same guy.
Speaker 1: Tatist Junior is still a really good player. But I
Speaker 1: mean they're getting old in a hurry, and they're they're
Speaker 1: trying to compete for sixth place. And on one respect,
Speaker 1: I get that and I appreciate that. Let's get into
Speaker 1: the playoffs. We'll go three and out. But hey, we
Speaker 1: got into the playoffs. But at some point, Timmy, don't
Speaker 1: you have to take a step back and go we
Speaker 1: need to really retool here in a couple of years.
Speaker 1: AJ Preller is great at discovering guys because the coffers
Speaker 1: go dry with young young players, and he reloads and
Speaker 1: gets some other front office to take some of his
Speaker 1: guys and continues this this process. But it's just not working.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: They're in it to win it every year. That's AJ's model,
Speaker 2: and as long as AJ Preller has a support of ownership,
Speaker 2: that's the way it's going to be. That's who AJ
Speaker 2: Prowler is.
Speaker 1: Well, you play, you playing dynas league teams. How's it?
Speaker 1: What's it like in fourth place?
Speaker 2: Uh? I don't have any of the Tata force, So yeah,
Speaker 2: I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Here, coming in fourth place, I mean, yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 2: Well, well you know, yeah, Hey, look at the part
Speaker 2: of his lineup. Okay, you got Steves Junior, and you've
Speaker 2: got Machado, and you got Jackson Mcarroll. And surrounding those players,
Speaker 2: you've got Ty France. Hey, so caps off to you, Tie.
Speaker 2: You're having a great year, but you've got Ty France,
Speaker 2: you got Luis Reynigo, Gavin Sheets, Xander Bogart's Campasano's playing
Speaker 2: much better, but you've got three stars surrounded by basically
Speaker 2: cast offs that he's picked up. Okay, and now he's
Speaker 2: picked up two more pictures to go with Michael King
Speaker 2: and Michael King and Michael King, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, you look at the rotation. You get Casey May's,
Speaker 2: Robbie Ray who they trained for Michael King. Then you
Speaker 2: go Walker Bueler and Hermine Marquez.
Speaker 1: That is not going to take that's not going to
Speaker 1: take down the Dodgers. That's not going to take down.
Speaker 2: The Brings, that's not going to take down the Brewer.
Speaker 1: It's just not.
Speaker 2: No. You need to be very fortunate. I was sort
Speaker 2: of disappointed. I really thought they might look at moving
Speaker 2: Mason Miller or maybe yeah, Adrian more John. Right, they didn't,
Speaker 2: because there you know they didn't do any of it.
Speaker 2: Their bullpen is still deep, it's still strong. It's a
Speaker 2: playoff type bullpen. One of the best in the game.
Speaker 2: But other than the big bats and hey, cross your
Speaker 2: fingers open, the best with the rotation. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 2: a in a dynasty format. It's a midpac team.
Speaker 1: Yep. I'm trying to figure out if Casey Mice is
Speaker 1: on the eyel Now. I don't believe he is, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't believe he is either. I mean, no, Casey
Speaker 1: Mice is not on the injured list, So that's I
Speaker 1: think Casey Casey Mice. People read my analysis of his stuff. Look,
Speaker 1: he came out as a number one overall prosper overall
Speaker 1: player twenty eighteen, I think nineteen something like that. It
Speaker 1: was before the pandemic, so that's how you always deferiate that.
Speaker 1: And it looked like he was going to be a
Speaker 1: top of the rotation guy. And Dan if he's not
Speaker 1: a top of the rotation picture, he doesn't walk anybody.
Speaker 1: He's got the great split or the sweeper's gotten a
Speaker 1: lot better. The fastball's good enough.
Speaker 2: It's a good picture. The problem with Casey mi is
Speaker 2: that since becoming making it to the to the bigs.
Speaker 2: His high water mark in innings pitch is one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty and it was in twenty twenty one L
Speaker 2: two series through one two and twenty four. Uh, didn't
Speaker 2: pitch in twenty twenty three. Okay here, Yeah, this year
Speaker 2: he's sitting with eighty six and two thirds.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, he's had two years of pretty much pitching
Speaker 1: full time. That was the one forty nine and one
Speaker 1: fifty three. Otherwise he's been hurt totally, agree, absolutely, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's going to hurt him in free agency, that
Speaker 1: is for sure next season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. But hey, the Podres are what the
Speaker 2: Padres are.
Speaker 1: The Padres gave up case Cash Mayfield is a pretty
Speaker 1: good lefty young kid high school or a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. Uh, and they get Robbie Ray. They cape
Speaker 1: up Miguel Mendez, who's pretty good in Janelle Hernandez was
Speaker 1: the one point four million dollars international signing this past January.
Speaker 1: That's hitting three hundred and the DSL with a good power,
Speaker 1: good speed, So that could be somebody. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's impressive that the Padres continued to fill their Coffers.
Speaker 1: As I said before, so good on them, But I
Speaker 1: just more, I just I emphatically disagree with how they're
Speaker 1: going about this. I think they're going to have to
Speaker 1: pull the plug at some point, and they're going to
Speaker 1: pull the plug and A J. Prewler is going to
Speaker 1: get fired and the next guy is going to be
Speaker 1: the one who's going to get blamed for four or
Speaker 1: five years of the dol drums when I don't think
Speaker 1: it had to be that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree. Yeah, that that is the way it's
Speaker 2: gonna That is the way that it eventually will shake down. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite trades of the week was the
Speaker 1: Pirates acquiring look Weaver from the Mets.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know that the Closer State, which was really weird. Well,
Speaker 2: I I don't think it's probably for lack of trying
Speaker 2: in New York. I think it was probably the contract.
Speaker 1: The contract and they.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, there's there's ten years after the expiration date.
Speaker 2: There's ten years of bonuses in there at one point
Speaker 2: five million a million. Yeah, yeah, No, Williams has ten
Speaker 2: years of deferred money at one point five million for
Speaker 2: the ten years, in addition to what he's being paid. Now.
Speaker 2: So that's I think I mentioned on the podcast if
Speaker 2: somebody will will eat that or you know, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure that's what the problem was. I'm sure they wanted
Speaker 2: to move Devin Williams. But it's much easier to show
Speaker 2: up Luke Weaver than it is ten years of one
Speaker 2: point five million moving forward, Right.
Speaker 1: Luke Weaver, it seems to be set up for me.
Speaker 1: And I wrote this, I can take I appreciate your
Speaker 1: view on this. I think Luke Weaver will be in
Speaker 1: the next for saves this year if I think by
Speaker 1: the end of the season he's your closer, and I
Speaker 1: think he's your closer going into next season. Right, it's
Speaker 1: he's the best arm, and it's a good arm in
Speaker 1: that bullpen.
Speaker 2: I picked him up several redraft leagues, and I picked
Speaker 2: him up in one of my keeper leagues. I'll have
Speaker 2: him next year for six dollars in one of my
Speaker 2: keeper leagues. And the idea behind that is if he
Speaker 2: did get into a situation where he could be closing,
Speaker 2: and let's face it, an eleven million dollar arm in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: he's going to be closing. Yeah, as good as I
Speaker 2: don't think it matters how good Mason Montgomery is the
Speaker 2: Pirates are paying Luke Weaver eleven million bucks, He's going
Speaker 2: to get every opportunity to close, not only this year
Speaker 2: but moving into next year. So yeah, kudos to those
Speaker 2: that picked up Luke Weaver in the in the two
Speaker 2: weeks prior to the trade deadline, especially in Dynasty Keeper
Speaker 2: type format formats. You might have yourself a really nice
Speaker 2: arm there for next year.
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent and agree with you. I think
Speaker 1: it was a bit lucky, and I think because I mean,
Speaker 1: we thought Luke Weaver could moved, but probably thought it
Speaker 1: could moved to a situation where he was at seventh
Speaker 1: any guy, and it turned out he's got a chance
Speaker 1: to be the closer. I don't think we had on
Speaker 1: our bingo car that he would be going to the Pirates.
Speaker 2: No. I looked at eleven million, looked at Pirates, said no,
Speaker 2: that ain't gonna happen. Yeah, that's the most This is
Speaker 2: the second most expensive acquisition I think the Pirates have
Speaker 2: ever made, behind Ryan O'Hearn.
Speaker 1: Who was pretty much out for the season, which is yeah,
Speaker 1: talk about my fantasy chances right over, Yeah, and eight
Speaker 1: of my twenty and twenty five of my league. So
Speaker 1: it's just not good.
Speaker 2: So no, no, definitely, And you know, for the people
Speaker 2: that invested in Camillo Dvaal thinking he might be the closer,
Speaker 2: might condolences. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not going to be
Speaker 2: the closer, you know.
Speaker 1: No, I totally agree. Can we talk about Sammy Staffer,
Speaker 1: the guy that went back to the Mets. I'm a
Speaker 1: huge fan of Sammy Steffer. Let me give you a
Speaker 1: little update on that. He was drafted a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. Really really athletic kid, of the best athletes
Speaker 1: in his draft class. And this season, to me, there
Speaker 1: are seven players in the minor leagues who've gone twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: and Sammy Staffora is one of them. Most of the
Speaker 1: guys have played eighty to ninety games. Steffora played his
Speaker 1: sixtieth game on Sunday and he's already at twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: So this is a guy who was absolutely grown up.
Speaker 1: Promise he can't hit. There is that so bury the league.
Speaker 1: He turns out thirty percent of the time. But the
Speaker 1: fantasy skills are off the charts with this guy, and
Speaker 1: I probably rather he would have stayed with the Pirates
Speaker 1: and turned this over to the Mets to kind of
Speaker 1: develop him. But they did develop they did develop Aja Ewing,
Speaker 1: they did develop Carson Binge, so and he's in that
Speaker 1: athletic kind of model that they're in. So maybe I'm
Speaker 1: not so worried. But this is a guy that I
Speaker 1: think in Dynas leagues that you're want to be taking
Speaker 1: to gamble on.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I know I have personally a few weeks ago when
Speaker 1: I saw what he was blowing up to. But this
Speaker 1: is I mean, if and if it doesn't work, Timmy,
Speaker 1: it hasn't cost you much, but the upside is substantial.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is so far are so good,
Speaker 2: so good?
Speaker 1: All right, Well that was actually very clever, mister coot
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I know, as we were going off the air, coming
Speaker 1: onto the air on Sunday, Freddy Parolta goes from the
Speaker 1: Mets to the Rays. They get back eight Smith, Emelian Petrie,
Speaker 1: who's a second basement Amelia Petrie, and then G. G. H.
Speaker 1: Gary Gil Hill. I hope for the best for Freddy
Speaker 1: Parolta with the Rays, and I'm hoping it works out
Speaker 1: for them. And the Rains are pretty smart, so they
Speaker 1: must think they can get him back to six ending Freddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I and and you know what it's it's a
Speaker 2: perfect type trade for the Rays. It didn't cost them
Speaker 2: an army a leg and they think they can fix
Speaker 2: him and you can slip into that rotation if he
Speaker 2: gets to be seventy five percent of what he was
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. The Rays have done very very well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the guys that went back and encouraged him,
Speaker 1: but to go read about them not great prospects, but
Speaker 1: at least there's something. Again, it's inspiring contract on a
Speaker 1: guy who was terrible this season, so you can't expect
Speaker 1: too much to return.
Speaker 2: No, well, exactly the same with Ghostman when the Jay's movement.
Speaker 2: He hasn't had a great year because the Ras over
Speaker 2: four he's won five games. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what it is?
Speaker 1: This next trade I thought was fascinating. The Giants acquired
Speaker 1: Marcela Mayor from the Red Siene, I laughed out loud.
Speaker 1: I saw going back was left handed reliever Eric Miller.
Speaker 1: Because Timmy, I had taken a break from watching.
Speaker 2: Your closed report and diving in and and Eric Miller.
Speaker 1: After I looked at his Baseball Savant page, I said,
Speaker 1: I gotta get this guy. It's nasty stuff. And I did, man,
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of money and it was I
Speaker 1: was thrilled that I got him in two or three leagues.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, look at me, man, I finally got a closer.
Speaker 1: And the twenty four hours later he's the seventh inny
Speaker 1: guy behind Whitlock and enrolled his check.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, stupid game. Yeah. I actually, when
Speaker 2: I saw that trade go through, I uttered, I uttered
Speaker 2: out loud the F word. Really yeah, yeah, because I
Speaker 2: got shares all over the place. Everything set up absolutely perfect.
Speaker 2: He could be a closer in San Francisco for the
Speaker 2: next two three years. Yeah, No, I was. There was
Speaker 2: a big fea. You probably heard it. Okay, he just
Speaker 2: didn't realize it. Be rich.
Speaker 1: I didn't have time to get you. I was too
Speaker 1: I was too busy writing. But I'm like, oh, you've
Speaker 1: got to be kidding me. I mean, and I just said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just give up on closers. I'm going to a
Speaker 1: five by four league. That's where I'm going. I just
Speaker 1: I just don't get it. I mean, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: He's got a great arm. H Carlos good Area is
Speaker 1: an interesting guy too. Marcella Mayer, though, I think it's
Speaker 1: safe to say he just has not developed. He's still
Speaker 1: only twenty three years old. Bat speed looks really good
Speaker 1: based on the metrics, but I think we have to
Speaker 1: just maybe recalibrate with him, particularly going to the Giants.
Speaker 1: This is maybe an average to below average player than
Speaker 1: a plus player.
Speaker 2: Agreed Boston. Hey, Boston didn't move him. There was a
Speaker 2: reason there. Yeah, Eric Miller is a good arm, but
Speaker 2: he's he's number three four in their bullpen, you know,
Speaker 2: behind Whitlock, behind Chapman, behind Slayton, and then you got Miller.
Speaker 2: The Boston Red Sox didn't need Eric Miller to have
Speaker 2: a good bullpen. But I'm wondering we're seeing the same thing.
Speaker 1: We're seeing the same thing we do. I mean, the
Speaker 1: oldest Chapman will one day retire, Wedlock will get free agency,
Speaker 1: and Eric members they got him for three years. You
Speaker 1: could see him closing games in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2: I agree that there's there's there's a pick that I'm
Speaker 2: going to have on a fair number of my teams
Speaker 2: coming out of the drafts next year, depending what happens
Speaker 2: with the oldest Chapman. Yeah, if he's the number three
Speaker 2: guy in that bullpen. Yeah, I'll take my chances. He'll
Speaker 2: be next year. Is Louis Barlin for me? Richard, Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I'll be.
Speaker 1: Right there with Robby rut I have now in three
Speaker 1: leagues and I have spent a lot of emotion already
Speaker 1: on him. So he's gonna stick with me for a while. Thickay,
Speaker 1: Marcella Mayor, Hey, I thought he would be better than
Speaker 1: he is. He just hasn't been. He just has not
Speaker 1: the ball. I'm not willing to give up on the
Speaker 1: twenty three year old. He'll get a good play. He
Speaker 1: won't have Franklin, he won't be looking over his shoulder
Speaker 1: for Franklin a raise and everybody else. He'll get a
Speaker 1: nice run for at least a couple of years until Lewis,
Speaker 1: Hernandez send all these kids that are in low way
Speaker 1: or ready to take his job. But at least he's
Speaker 1: got a couple of years to develop. The next one,
Speaker 1: second to the last, was the Angels acquiring Moys's Beilisteris.
Speaker 1: This was a little shocking for me. They also acquired
Speaker 1: Mason McGuire, who was actually Mark McGuire's son. I actually
Speaker 1: saw him pitch last year. Once and pretty good stuff.
Speaker 1: And the Cubs got to Ryan Zephyrchon. He's got really
Speaker 1: good stuff as well. It doesn't always throw strikes, but
Speaker 1: he's another guy that's up to a lefty that's up
Speaker 1: to one hundred miles an hour. Were you surprised that
Speaker 1: the Cubs, I mean, I get the red sucks kind
Speaker 1: of giving up a Marcela Mayor getting a similar guy
Speaker 1: and Eric Miller, but the Cubs gave up on Moys's Bellisterius.
Speaker 1: I found that to be shocking.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it goes back to a discussion we've
Speaker 2: had many times, many times in the past about players
Speaker 2: with defensive challenges, liabilities, and let's face it, Bia Steros,
Speaker 2: he can can't catch. Yeah, so where where is he
Speaker 2: going to fit into the Cubs lineup when you've got
Speaker 2: Saya Suzuki, who's gonna you know, he's thirty two, would
Speaker 2: be thirty three next year. Uh yeah, how many how
Speaker 2: many first base DH types do you need? And yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: well yeah then they'll say one more, damn.
Speaker 1: One more, we'll take. We'll take that's our model, Yeah exactly, Yes, clogging.
Speaker 2: Up a position somewhere that he shouldn't be. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: I think that's where it boiled down to. I think
Speaker 2: I think by stairs, I don't have any doubts that
Speaker 2: he's going to be able to hit, and he'll get
Speaker 2: the opportunities in his his new home to do just that.
Speaker 2: But I don't think he fit into the cubs overall
Speaker 2: plans because of those defensive challenges.
Speaker 1: Totally agree. I'd love to see him move to first
Speaker 1: pie if you look at a shot at the Angels,
Speaker 1: but it's a perfect landing spot for him. He's going
Speaker 1: to play him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sure, if he's around, he's going to hit. I
Speaker 2: think the guy yeah, and the Cubs. Hey, let's let's
Speaker 2: face it, the Cubs had to do something as far
Speaker 2: as their bullpen. You know, they have Webb Thornton Fielberg.
Speaker 2: Now they've got Zephyr John That helps their bullpen significantly
Speaker 2: because let's, let's let's face it, we don't know what
Speaker 2: is going to happen with Daniel Palencia. He's been hurt
Speaker 2: off and on most of the year. Apparently he's you know,
Speaker 2: on the verge of another rehabit assignment and back up.
Speaker 2: But the Cubs had to get into the bullpen arm
Speaker 2: they can't count on Boantee this year based on what
Speaker 2: we've seen, so yeah, it sort of made sense. I have.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I think it was just one of
Speaker 2: those situations where it's not gonna fit. They had to
Speaker 2: do something with them, and they're not going to have
Speaker 2: them in the everyday lineup. That's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: Overall, I think the Cubs did well. I think they've
Speaker 1: reloaded with their pitching and they've got Gossman, they got Peterson. Again,
Speaker 1: these aren't top of the rocatation guys anymore, but I
Speaker 1: don't think they need that, and I think I think
Speaker 1: they have a chance to possibly catch the Brewers, if
Speaker 1: not make it into the more securely make it into
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I like what they did there, but I
Speaker 1: absolutely love what the Angels did. Finally they're doing stuff,
Speaker 1: and you know they they've got the oh I can't
Speaker 1: remember who the the filling GM is there, but it's
Speaker 1: not a great job. He had a great draft and made.
Speaker 2: Some really smart moves for the Angels.
Speaker 1: They're actually getting some guys that can play, and I
Speaker 1: think they're going to be I think the Angels will
Speaker 1: be a different team in a couple of years because
Speaker 1: of these moves they made at this deadline and some
Speaker 1: of the draft picks they've made. So I'm really slightly
Speaker 1: bullish on the Angels.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I did, the bar is set so
Speaker 2: frigging low there. It's a good thing. But at the
Speaker 2: same point in time, Yeah, it's a low bar, isn't it.
Speaker 2: At least it's going, it appears to be going in
Speaker 2: the right direction. The best thing that can happen to
Speaker 2: that team is new ownership, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, yeah, but hey, at least they're on
Speaker 1: the fringes at the moment and trying to trade around
Speaker 1: the frenches.
Speaker 2: Which is good.
Speaker 1: Two more trades here, Timmy, the Astros acquire salts of
Speaker 1: our show. Before you mentioned that for Spencer ari Gettia,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you liked it for the blue Jay side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did dal Var show his he was. He
Speaker 2: was yoking them all over the place last year. He
Speaker 2: had big homers and limited at bats. Look at the bat,
Speaker 2: look at the launch angle. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.
Speaker 2: And Arragetty is the type of army and the stuff's good.
Speaker 2: There's no dobting the stuff. It's just whether or not
Speaker 2: he managed to trying the way to get it over
Speaker 2: home plate. And sorry was in that same situation. There's upside,
Speaker 2: there's upside out of the Arragedtty trade. And yeah, like, hey,
Speaker 2: I like Dalton bar Show defensively. Yeah he's he's the
Speaker 2: number one outfielder in Houston right now. Yeah, he'll play
Speaker 2: center field. You'll run everything down, You'll do what the
Speaker 2: Astros need. Raghetty will do with Jason. It was a
Speaker 2: good trade. I like it.
Speaker 1: I mean the get somebody in the outfield, and I
Speaker 1: mean I don't think a lot of the offensive upside
Speaker 1: of Barship, but he definitely can run it down. Totally
Speaker 1: agree with you there. I've got him one Dynasty League
Speaker 1: and it's back and forth, starting lineup percentting on the
Speaker 1: bed tea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's not a very good player.
Speaker 2: No, it's defense. He yearns his keep based on the defense.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And and it makes sense for the Astros to gloat
Speaker 2: and get him.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I took a look at his war war from
Speaker 1: last year was two point two based on his swing changes.
Speaker 1: It's one point one this season, so it did not work.
Speaker 2: Whatever he's doing has not worked. No, and that one
Speaker 2: point one of that one point one one point zero
Speaker 2: is based on the defense.
Speaker 1: Could be he's been he's been an off, he's not
Speaker 1: been very good offensive. Last last trade is the race trade, bricks.
Speaker 1: You're gonna do another one after this. The reason I
Speaker 1: put this down here because I thought it was fascinating.
Speaker 1: The Rays acquired Liam Hicks, which you know Catcher who
Speaker 1: has got fourteen home runs of going for memory and
Speaker 1: hits the ball eighty six miles an hour with the launch.
Speaker 1: I have no idea how the power came out. I
Speaker 1: do not think this is a power This is a
Speaker 1: Lewis and Wise at Catcher right. He makes incredible contact
Speaker 1: and he got he's got five to eight home run power.
Speaker 2: But maybe the brains has even more than I do.
Speaker 1: But they grabbed him hot start.
Speaker 2: He got out of the gates strong. I think of
Speaker 2: his fourteen home runs, he had twelve of them in April,
Speaker 2: or ten of them. He got off to a ridiculous start,
Speaker 2: and then he settled into who he is yep.
Speaker 1: But which is not a power hitting home It's not
Speaker 1: a power guy at all.
Speaker 2: I want to make sure everybody's clear on that, Yes
Speaker 2: he is not cal Riley. But they gave up some.
Speaker 1: Really good prospects for him, and I kind of wanted
Speaker 1: to go why they why they did that, and it
Speaker 1: was really the Marlins. I mean, first of Bradon Taylor
Speaker 1: was he and Henry Lelange both who got moved, which
Speaker 1: is pretty fascinating. Where my two bounce back players of
Speaker 1: the year, Adrian's antana is a few milkshakes away from
Speaker 1: putting on weight and hitting with more power and having
Speaker 1: a chance to be cg abrams that the profiles of
Speaker 1: them are really similar, and then Jacob Kissing is actually
Speaker 1: a pretty good player. So why did they give up
Speaker 1: so much for Liampicks? Because they could? To me, and
Speaker 1: over the last two seasons, they've been accumulating players prospects
Speaker 1: just and I know because that's that's what I do.
Speaker 1: And many of them are coming up this December. That
Speaker 1: they either got to be put on the forty man
Speaker 1: or DFAD and put on the Rule five draft, and
Speaker 1: they needed to trim their minor leagues, particularly experienced minor leaguers,
Speaker 1: and that's what they've been doing. So a lot of
Speaker 1: the trades they did, they overpaid because they could to
Speaker 1: get the guy they wanted, and it helped them free
Speaker 1: up their forty man problem that the Dodgers are constantly
Speaker 1: doing this. They did a trade.
Speaker 2: Oh, I forgot who was it, the the guy that's hurt.
Speaker 1: They traded the guy that's some some starting pitchers. Oh oh,
Speaker 1: Chris Bubeck. They they traded for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they yeah, they yeah for Chris buck Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they they acquired Chris Bubeck, who's a good picture.
Speaker 1: You take a look at his data, it's it's better
Speaker 1: stopped than you think. But there's a chance he won't
Speaker 1: pitch in the season and he is, uh, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a free agent in twenty twenty seven. Well why
Speaker 1: do this? Well, they're over the lem I mean, they
Speaker 1: got to make card decisions as well. So they move
Speaker 1: Carlos duran who's a guy that's on their forty man out.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be on their forty man because
Speaker 1: there's gonna be other guys that replace him. So they
Speaker 1: took a gamble that bu Beck gets healthy sometime in
Speaker 1: August can help them in the playoffs or at the
Speaker 1: end of the season.
Speaker 2: And maybe he likes it.
Speaker 1: They're so much that he's you know, signs a team
Speaker 1: from the who knows, and Carlos Durant is a guy
Speaker 1: that is, you know, not going to not going to
Speaker 1: make the forty man and the Dodgers because of the
Speaker 1: situation and they were able to make this trade. No
Speaker 1: other team would have done that besides the Rays, I mean,
Speaker 1: and take that.
Speaker 2: Kind of risk.
Speaker 1: So now that you know the Royals good a guy
Speaker 1: that might turn into something with it for a player
Speaker 1: that was going to give them a zero going into
Speaker 1: next season, that's where that deal was made. I thought
Speaker 1: that was actually pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then yeah, and you know the
Speaker 2: Dodger side got something for nothingsrctly. Yeah, and if it
Speaker 2: turns out nothing for nothing, that's where they were in
Speaker 2: the first place.
Speaker 1: That's right. It just cost him. I I think it
Speaker 1: was half a million dollars in whatever the pro rated
Speaker 1: salary for Chris Buba. That's all it cost them. And
Speaker 1: to me, if I'm running that team, I'm taking I'm
Speaker 1: doing that deal every day of the week if I'm
Speaker 1: the Dodgers, because all it did was cost me money.
Speaker 1: And if for some reason he gets healthy, Timmy, you
Speaker 1: got yourself a pretty good pitcher that could be a
Speaker 1: long man you know the playoffs, and that's not bad.
Speaker 2: Well, and You know what, when you start looking at
Speaker 2: Liam Liam Hicks that trade, the Marlins have got themselves,
Speaker 2: Joe Mack. They're set at Catcher for the next five
Speaker 2: six years, right with Mac. So you know, moving Liam
Speaker 2: Hicks makes total sense, doesn't it. And the race picking
Speaker 2: up Liam Hex makes sense because there are two gadgets
Speaker 2: prior to that, where Nick's Nick Fortis and Kenneth Piper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's an upgrade.
Speaker 1: That's an upgrade. Let's take our final break to me,
Speaker 1: then we'll finish up. Let's finish up now that we'll
Speaker 1: take our final break in on a happy note, because
Speaker 1: I think I sent you my right up on the
Speaker 1: Rockies trades. I know I beat up on them all
Speaker 1: the time, but I truly don't know what they're doing. Look,
Speaker 1: they the Marlins acquired Victor vod Neck, who's got a
Speaker 1: great army. He's kind of in that Zephyr John and
Speaker 1: Eric Miller kind of guy, you know, big Hunt mont
Speaker 1: Our guys. And they get cornered Connor Norby that nobody wants.
Speaker 1: He's not very good. And then you know, Aiden May
Speaker 1: is a right handed picture that's going to get destroyed
Speaker 1: when he gets to uh to Colorado, and then and
Speaker 1: then they they they traded Brenton Doyle and yeah, that
Speaker 1: pretty much nothing in return. I Mason Adams who's going
Speaker 1: to get destroyed, and Carlo's Vielma, who maybe turns into
Speaker 1: something is I think he's an eight seventeen year old
Speaker 1: Dominican kid. But like, what are they doing? I mean,
Speaker 1: what what are they doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wf okay, I mean like yeah, yeah, no, hey,
Speaker 2: I love what the White Sox did there. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: makes a whole lot of sense, total total. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's something or other change change of scenery. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying we're gonna look at the twenty third to thirty
Speaker 2: version of Brenton Doyle moving forward, But why not take
Speaker 2: a chance from the cost is what it is? Why
Speaker 2: not pick up a senzatela? You know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's yeah, this was the last paper, This was.
Speaker 1: The last paragraph I wrote. Oh, this was on the
Speaker 1: Brent Doyle trade. If I'm reading this correctly, the Rockies
Speaker 1: traded a legitimate big league big league player flawed but
Speaker 1: useful for a twenty one year old minor leaguer arm
Speaker 1: who will get eatn the live in Colorado and a
Speaker 1: sixteen year old lottery ticket that fits perfectly with what
Speaker 1: we've come to expect from them, hands down with for
Speaker 1: the White Socks. Even if Doyle doesn't work out, it's smart,
Speaker 1: low risk gamble.
Speaker 2: I that's a smart, low risk gamble. Yeah, it's the
Speaker 2: white Sox will survive with old Adams and Vielma.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a sixteen years old. He turned seventeen. I
Speaker 1: think in the next week or next month. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's okay if you turned out.
Speaker 2: Three years until drinking legal drinking, that's right.
Speaker 1: If he turns out to be Byron Buxton, I will,
Speaker 1: I will admit that I was wrong, But I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, it's just I think they have no idea
Speaker 1: what they're doing. To me. It's clear they they've all
Speaker 1: left out, so they decided to make some deals, and.
Speaker 2: You know it must be they're still left they're still
Speaker 2: left out rich. Yeah, I know, after making after making medal. Bye,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's bad, all right to me, I say,
Speaker 1: or finally break it back, and I want to know
Speaker 1: your favorite trade and the guy that you can be
Speaker 1: maybe picking up this week, and maybe you don't know
Speaker 1: that answer yet, but I'd love to hear your opinion
Speaker 1: on that. I'm worn out to him. I haven't showered and.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the last time I've showered, but I'm
Speaker 2: going to.
Speaker 1: I am going to go get an ice cream and
Speaker 1: eat an ice cream, and then I'm going to take
Speaker 1: a shower and just sit and do nothing for our
Speaker 1: Patreon members. I'm sorry, I doubt there will be notes tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I just I'm tired of looking at a keyboard.
Speaker 2: MM. Yes, I can perfectly understand that.
Speaker 1: All right, Tim, wrap it up for me. What strade
Speaker 1: did you like the best? Who are you going to
Speaker 1: be targeting this weekend?
Speaker 2: Who am I going to be targeting this weekend? Well,
Speaker 2: I can tell you one guy I'm going to be targeting,
Speaker 2: and he didn't have anything to do with trade deadline,
Speaker 2: and that's actor Rodriguez.
Speaker 1: We got called up.
Speaker 2: Oh, he got called up. There was something that still
Speaker 2: hasn't so.
Speaker 1: That was my I was going to bring that up.
Speaker 1: So new Lars noop got moved to ye, so I'm
Speaker 1: breaking that up. Last night was like one o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning. I'm like, oh, great, Lars, let me Joshua.
Speaker 1: That Joshua Bias is called so then I went scanned
Speaker 1: the internet. There was no mention of Joshua Bias getting
Speaker 1: called up. I'm like, come on, come, you got you
Speaker 1: gotta call him up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian Torres is playing in the oakfield. I saw that, Yes,
Speaker 2: so did I. I cursed it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you.
Speaker 2: Already hear something hilarious, rich, Okay, in tote, Okay, I
Speaker 2: I had a choice, okay, between Biaz and Rodriguez. I
Speaker 2: have both of them in tot on my bench. Okay,
Speaker 2: I know exactly what. No, I didn't, I didn't drop them.
Speaker 2: I started the wrong one.
Speaker 1: Okay, same difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I started Bias expecting him to get called Rodriguez
Speaker 2: gets called up at least Friday. I can correct it.
Speaker 2: And the guy I put on my bench to do
Speaker 2: all of it was Tommy Edmund doing it at Home
Speaker 2: Run last night, like come on, slot, slap me in
Speaker 2: the app or you know what I mean. It's like
Speaker 2: one of those shots to the back of the head. Oh.
Speaker 2: I could not I could not believe how wrong that
Speaker 2: actually ended up working out. But Rodriguez is a guy
Speaker 2: that I'm going to be targeting from all the trades. Hey,
Speaker 2: buy sterios. I'm gonna look for bia Steros. I'm going
Speaker 2: to look for anybody that I think and I haven't
Speaker 2: had time to go through absolutely everything yet, but I'm
Speaker 2: going to look for people who are going to play
Speaker 2: full time. I'm gonna be able to get cheap. That's
Speaker 2: what I'm going to be doing, and everybody else will
Speaker 2: be doing the same thing. Bullpens Hey Andrew Andrew kit
Speaker 2: Kittridge looks like he's a closer in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I know. I Yeah, I should have picked him up
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago when I saw you he
Speaker 1: was starting to get the gig.
Speaker 2: The guy that I picked up.
Speaker 1: For the closer such obviously, if Luke Weaver's available, that's
Speaker 1: the you gotta pick them up. Feels like Kate Smith
Speaker 1: from last season AFT, when uh the guy got what
Speaker 1: was so quickly we forget who was the closer for
Speaker 1: years in Cleveland that got busted? Uh for the uh
Speaker 1: yeah him gambling? Yeah, I can't even remember. I'm too
Speaker 1: tired to think. But my guy is Yovanni Cruz. That's
Speaker 1: the guy I'm going to be targeting. Targeted him last week,
Speaker 1: I got him in a couple of weeks. He's in Washington,
Speaker 1: is coming from the Yankees one hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 1: Rosters has him sitting in the seventh inname. I think
Speaker 1: you're going to see him getting some clothes, uh save
Speaker 1: opportunities here soon and going forward. I think that's the guy.
Speaker 1: That's the guy for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's you know, Sam Bachman's got the job. If
Speaker 2: you can you can stay healthy. I think the Angels
Speaker 2: well yeah, yeah, and there that's Jeff John went gone.
Speaker 1: That's right. That's a good call because I had Bachmann
Speaker 1: in a lot of leagues and and suffer John, and
Speaker 1: then I just gave up with both of them because
Speaker 1: no one was getting any save opportunities because I could
Speaker 1: go back into the Bakman world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, hey, the Twins picked up Jeff Hoffman,
Speaker 2: but you Angrys Gomez has been basically lights out there
Speaker 2: are they's gonna hand it to Hoffin?
Speaker 1: I think they don't.
Speaker 2: I Lord, yeah, yeah, writing that up, I'm just laughing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tim can't be You can't be happy with this
Speaker 1: for because you know he's gonna get the It's the
Speaker 1: same same thing with the pirates, right, if you're making
Speaker 1: a lot of money, you're gonna get the You're gonna
Speaker 1: get the gig and Hoffin's making a lot of plus
Speaker 1: he's saved thirty three games last year.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, he was up down, all over the place
Speaker 2: all year. Yeah. Yeah, they ain't a movie after him,
Speaker 2: the semi good, the bad, and the ugly. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: he was all over the He might again.
Speaker 1: He's not. He might not keep the job. He's going
Speaker 1: to get a shot at the job, there's no I think.
Speaker 2: So the guy that I really like and that I want,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to be chasing all over the place.
Speaker 2: I've already picked him up in one league I play
Speaker 2: in this fast Finger or fast Finger like Dylan Smith
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. Take a look at I think you'll
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 1: That was the guy that I recommended and to our
Speaker 1: Patreon members going through once Eric Miller got moved. So
Speaker 1: there's two guys out there, and I think I think
Speaker 1: he was the one that I said, I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy that he's competing with. Let me make sure I
Speaker 1: got it right.
Speaker 2: So you yeah, my model for the guy he's competing
Speaker 2: against is a win. Is never a win with win a.
Speaker 1: Win, that's that's a yes, Kate win, And thank you.
Speaker 1: I knew.
Speaker 2: Eric Miller. Eric Miller went where Miller Boston, Boston. He's
Speaker 2: the number four guy, haven't you remember? You might want
Speaker 2: to hold on to him though Rich Red sucks.
Speaker 1: It sucks adle Rich. I don't know, Timmy, I'll go
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah whatever, I definitely wrote about it. Who knows.
Speaker 1: Listen to Tim, you know it's more than me anyway, Timmy,
Speaker 1: I beat. It was a lot of fun. Thanks for
Speaker 1: doing this podcast. I again, I encourage everybody joined us
Speaker 1: at the Patreon. Tim and I working our asses off
Speaker 1: for trying to bring good content. I'm having a blast.
Speaker 2: I'm having a lot of fun too. The group of
Speaker 2: the Discord the discord chat was lively all day, and
Speaker 2: I've expanded my humor repertoire courtesy of several of the
Speaker 2: gut I sit there. They they're pretty sure we had
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. So hey, hats hats off to
Speaker 2: everybody that attended yesterday. It was a great time, a
Speaker 2: lot of fun, and hey, what can I What can
Speaker 2: I say? I would definitely be doing the same thing
Speaker 2: at same time next year. Good Lord Willing. It was.
Speaker 2: It was worth it, just talking up the game and
Speaker 2: chatting all the moves as they actually trans fired and
Speaker 2: getting getting different thoughts and opinions. It's a lot of fun,
Speaker 2: it really is.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My three favorite days of the baseball season Opening
Speaker 1: Day number one, uh, spring Training, open Day, maybe two,
Speaker 1: and then definitely three. Two or three would be the yesterday,
Speaker 1: the deadline. I just I love it. It's exciting, there's
Speaker 1: hope in the air. I mean it's it's it's the
Speaker 1: same as like Opening Day. You've got teams that are
Speaker 1: getting these kids and now there's hope for the future.
Speaker 1: And you get Casey miz and you think you're going
Speaker 1: to make it into the playoffs. It's just a win
Speaker 1: win everywhere. I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But for me, I lean to more. It's more
Speaker 2: of the fantasy side. Like I like Opening Day, but
Speaker 2: it's behind Draft Day, and it's behind trade deadline day
Speaker 2: and then Opening Day. It's just my fantasy roots. I
Speaker 2: am sitting down and doing that for draft on a
Speaker 2: sixty seventy second clock and read draft leads. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: to me is yes, but don't you.
Speaker 1: Think that yes? Or well just a day Tuesday Sunday's
Speaker 1: waiver war was very important because there's a couple of
Speaker 1: guys that you grow. Isn't this Sunday's waiver war going
Speaker 1: to be really important based on you know, the guys
Speaker 1: that have moved around, to the opportunities and all the
Speaker 1: things that we've talked about. That's a really important day.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is in a big way. And I'm just
Speaker 2: you know, I've already got the article written and pick
Speaker 2: up everybody who's going to play full time after the
Speaker 2: trade deadline and search out closers. Okay, they inherited a job,
Speaker 2: simple article, rich, right, but.
Speaker 1: That comes from the deadline day. That's I mean, that's
Speaker 1: Sunday everything does everything.
Speaker 2: Yeh, yeah, No, guaranteed you can solve your staves problem
Speaker 2: next week and you're going to be able to survive
Speaker 2: to all. So fill it in some holes very nicely.
Speaker 2: On the offensive side of things, the only the only
Speaker 2: thing starting pitching. No, it's going to be all about
Speaker 2: the bullpends and finding bats, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's about finding the closer that's that's
Speaker 1: going to get the job, and then some bats and
Speaker 1: then who's what's opening up because the guys moves on.
Speaker 1: I thought we might see the center fielder from uh
Speaker 1: from the Rets from the Mets come back came up
Speaker 1: for a brief spell earlier this season. But then I
Speaker 1: saw that Lewis robertson, Yeah, Louis Robert j not him,
Speaker 1: I was. I saw that he's now healthy again. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you that.
Speaker 2: Was a bit of a surprise. I thought they'd try
Speaker 2: and move Robert. Maybe there was no interest.
Speaker 1: It might be the same as Devin Williams. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: Nick Moore be. It would have been nice to see.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so, but yeah, it's not to happen, mm hmm. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because let's face it, the future of that team is
Speaker 2: going to be based around a j Ewing and Carson Binge.
Speaker 1: And well, come on, I think it's also Lonsto. I
Speaker 1: mean I think that's.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's a given.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so's look, I think if they're smarter this time,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna they won't be. They're just gonna go
Speaker 1: in and spend like drunk and sailors over the off
Speaker 1: season and clog it up again.
Speaker 2: And you know what a positive note, the club host
Speaker 2: Karen has got to be better now because Sodo is
Speaker 2: on the IL, right, Yeah, I guess so, I guess so, yeah,
Speaker 2: that is a round.
Speaker 1: I gotta go get my ice cream. Tim, Thank you,
Speaker 1: for doing this everybody. I hope you enjoyed it. Patreon members,
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed all the content coming out. I
Speaker 1: think there was probably forty thousand words I wrote in
Speaker 1: three days.
Speaker 2: Wait, it was to it was crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So all right, my friend, we'll talk to you
Speaker 1: on either Friday or Sunday. We'll figure out we've got
Speaker 1: enough content for Friday, and then we'll do it again.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. Be safe, be well, and rest those
Speaker 2: fingers up. They definitely needed my friend,