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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shark Media.

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<v Speaker 2>From the hockey capital of the world, the United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America. I'm Johnny Mack. Joining us from Canada is

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Chisholm, host of the Letterman podcast. Mike, Anything New,

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't dispute what you just said. Congratulations to the

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<v Speaker 1>American hockey Olympic Hockey teams, both the men and the

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<v Speaker 1>women's for that matter. One of the greatest games of

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<v Speaker 1>all time that I've ever I've just I, uh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what a game that was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing good all things considered.

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<v Speaker 1>Considering my boys, we thought that we were going to

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<v Speaker 1>get gold, but ran into a hot goalie and it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out an American team.

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<v Speaker 3>Had had so much heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I was astounded at the heart that the

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<v Speaker 1>US hockey team had. Congratulations the Hockey capital of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Will have to accept that until the World Cup at least.

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<v Speaker 1>But other than that, I'm I'm doing very very well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good to see you. I would like, if possible,

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<v Speaker 1>for you to compare to me, someone who lives on

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<v Speaker 1>the West Coast. Whatever we hear of something called a nor'easter.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the years, we have seen various effects, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>my view, Letterman having his show either audience free or

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<v Speaker 1>postponed because of it. Compare this nor'easter that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are going through to ones of the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, so so much to unpack there. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to point out the difference between Americans and Canadians.

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<v Speaker 2>I went out of my way to get my USA jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you listening on audio, you don't see it,

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<v Speaker 2>but Mike does. So I have my USA jersey on,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course I wear every day, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>I come on here to raz you and you just

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<v Speaker 2>are very gracious and congratulate the winners. So there's that.

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<v Speaker 2>As for the nor'easters, that is a term I never

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<v Speaker 2>heard until the mid nineties when I worked at WOR

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<v Speaker 2>Radio in New York, and then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>there was a nor'easter. It just seems to be one

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<v Speaker 2>of those things that like a duret sho, like I

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<v Speaker 2>never heard of derecho until like ten years ago. This

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<v Speaker 2>one we probably got just I'm a little Inland. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the coast was harder hit as we record on Monday

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<v Speaker 2>morning Inland we got kind of the same amount of

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<v Speaker 2>snow a month ago. People were talking about the equivalent

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<v Speaker 2>of Category two hurricane winds. I saw a watch tweet

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty foot waves off the coast of Long Island,

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe a little further east it's bad. But here

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<v Speaker 2>up in the hills, it's just another winter snowstorm, a

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<v Speaker 2>big one. It was up to my knees. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure others also get snow. It's not the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>deal in.

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<v Speaker 1>The world, okay, but a snow day for the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids are staying home today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all the schools are closed in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>The mayor didn't even make them do virtual He gave

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<v Speaker 2>them an old fashioned snow day. Nice, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going anywhere. You got to dig your cars out,

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<v Speaker 2>and there are safety restrictions in place. You're not supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to go anywhere. There's nowhere to go even if you

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<v Speaker 2>get out. So it's just kind of a it's a

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<v Speaker 2>snow day, good.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse to get some more podcasting done.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. So, I want to ask you about hockey a

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<v Speaker 2>side fil service, yes, sir, so stereotypes aside. How big

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<v Speaker 2>a deal was that game? Is the nation watching? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you guys crushed or you know, what's the what's the

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<v Speaker 2>feeling there.

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<v Speaker 1>I have friends who are certainly crushed who I spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to throughout the day yesterday that were you know, their

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<v Speaker 1>whole day was was well, and it's because of the

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<v Speaker 1>way this day started.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm on the West coast.

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<v Speaker 1>So the game was five am, and I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>had restaurants that were open, ticketed events, things like that

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<v Speaker 1>that were so so there was activity definitely happening at.

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<v Speaker 3>Five in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I got up and just watched it in my house

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<v Speaker 1>and then was you know, through social media, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and text messages going back and forth through friends.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a gigantic, gigantic thing up here.

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<v Speaker 1>We winded back to twenty ten when we when we

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<v Speaker 1>host didn't now that at that time the Olympics were

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<v Speaker 1>in Vancouver, but the gold medal game, the men's hockey

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<v Speaker 1>gold medal game, Sidney Crosey, what we call what's known

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<v Speaker 1>in Canada up here as the Golden Goal, just you know, pandemonium, pandemonium,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm certain that would have happened yesterday as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, it didn't go that way, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you had a lot of people. I went to get

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<v Speaker 1>my wife a coffee at around eight in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>and driving by the Starbucks there was.

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<v Speaker 3>A long, sullen line going through that drive through.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of people at eight in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning that were that were, you know, punched in the gut,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was a big deal. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, most people that I know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at how the Americans finished, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was an unbelievable Johnny Goudreau. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you're how big of a hockey fan you are,

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<v Speaker 1>but Johnny Gudrou, who had played for the Calgary Flames,

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Hockey, we loved him up here. That's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Canadians is that that when an American comes up here,

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<v Speaker 1>I think of the Toronto Maple Leafs captain by Austin Matthews.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, unbelievable, unbelievable talent. When an American comes up

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<v Speaker 1>here and in his place for one of our teams,

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<v Speaker 1>typically they're very, very embraced, and Johnny Hockey was certainly that.

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<v Speaker 1>When the game ended, before the team picture was taken

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<v Speaker 1>on the ice, players went and got Johnny Gudrou, who

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<v Speaker 1>who tragically passed away far, far, far too soon. They

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<v Speaker 1>went and grabbed his jersey, brought it out and then

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<v Speaker 1>his kids, his two kids, one of whom had.

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<v Speaker 3>Their I believe it was his first birthday for.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Junior yesterday, and so they brought them on the

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<v Speaker 1>ice to have the picture taken with them, and at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, I'm just like, Okay, the hockey guds are

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<v Speaker 1>at play here. The Canadians played the best possible game

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<v Speaker 1>we could play and it was ours to lose. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the chances so so so I think most folks, most

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<v Speaker 1>of my hockey loving friends all kind of accept that

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<v Speaker 1>as to as it was our game to lose and

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<v Speaker 1>we the Americans were so resilient, and so yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was. It's a huge thing. It's a huge, huge,

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<v Speaker 3>huge thing up here.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, all it does is build

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<v Speaker 1>fire for the World Cup, and I were already talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that. So I think we had the perfect team.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's gonna be any second guessing. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it was just one of those things where

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<v Speaker 1>we ran into a hot goalie and a team that

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<v Speaker 1>was leading with their heart, and absolutely the heart won

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<v Speaker 1>that day.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the way I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to make it sound like it's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>down here. Going into the game. It was a big

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<v Speaker 2>deal the famous nineteen eighty Olympic hockey team and the

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<v Speaker 2>movie Miracle that comes up in popular culture all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>You might know, maybe three weeks and somebody will bring

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<v Speaker 2>up that game. So it's not like it's bigger than

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<v Speaker 2>if say, America made a run in the World Cup.

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<v Speaker 2>And that might be different with the World Cup being

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<v Speaker 2>in the three countries this year, yep, But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if if the Americans had made a run in the

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<v Speaker 2>World Cup four years ago, I still think the hockey

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<v Speaker 2>is a bigger deal because nineteen eighty always gets dusted off,

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<v Speaker 2>and now we've got new folk heroes and Jack Hughes's

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple of teeth and getting back out there

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<v Speaker 2>and happening to be the one scoring the goal. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that's movie stuff, right, Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Uh, like I said, the hockey guys were

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<v Speaker 1>at play, and I love that. I love the drama

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<v Speaker 1>of sport and and and sometimes the things that come

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<v Speaker 1>out of it and and I mean, you can't it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I had uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember people were talking about our first two games

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the gold medal game, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're come from behind. You know, over time for the

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<v Speaker 1>for the one game, and and and people were were

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<v Speaker 1>scared and like, oh no, Canada is not dominating. I

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<v Speaker 1>just look at them and go, it doesn't matter if

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<v Speaker 1>Canada just dominates.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't have that. You have to have the chase.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have the drama, you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>the the back and forth. You know, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>us to be a dominant I want us to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course it's our game, but man, it's got to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think about the Canada Cup eighty seven, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Gretzky Lemieux on the same team and playing

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviets. It just I mean, and again you go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the maraklon Ice again playing the Soviets. Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>it fun that we have gotten a chance to see

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<v Speaker 1>the Soviets kind of rise and fall. And now it's

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<v Speaker 1>Canada and the US that are that are those two

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<v Speaker 1>dominant teams, and you got your European teams that are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to crack into that. And I just I love

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<v Speaker 1>the hockey culture when it comes to that. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics were wonderful this year and seeing the Americans

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<v Speaker 1>take it. Both of the men and the women was

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<v Speaker 1>a sight to be seen. And again tip of the

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<v Speaker 1>cap back in twenty ten. It's one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>Letterman clips and it's not available anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I remembered it.

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<v Speaker 1>I remembered it because it was such a wonderful night,

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<v Speaker 1>the night after the golden goal. So this is be

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<v Speaker 1>The golden goal was scored on a Sunday Olympics end

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<v Speaker 1>and then Monday night you go and watch Letterman and

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<v Speaker 1>he did a desk piece after the monolog and he

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<v Speaker 1>sat down and he said, hey, everybody watched the hockey game,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone a cheering and all that sort of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and he he kind of leans into the cameraon he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was watching the game and as it's going,

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<v Speaker 1>and as it's going, and as it's going, he looks

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<v Speaker 1>into the cameraon he goes, I wanted the Canadians to win.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just really appreciated that because you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>on our home ice and all that, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just this the fervor was unbelievable and I appreciated that,

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<v Speaker 1>and and and I could appreciate the sentiment especially at

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<v Speaker 1>like I say, once, once I saw the US win yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, it was it's it's been a it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a it's been a pretty crazy week, John, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had a pretty bonker's week this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we'll get to that. Just before we do. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a note here. The President asked me to remind

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<v Speaker 2>you we do have an offer for you to join

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<v Speaker 2>the United States of America, and I stay with me. Huh,

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<v Speaker 2>that would solve your problem because you would then be

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<v Speaker 2>part of the greatest hockey playing nation in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>You would be winners, and to be fair, you would

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<v Speaker 2>immediately have the best state flag. I mean that would

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<v Speaker 2>easily be the of the fifty one, the best state flag.

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<v Speaker 2>So you guys might want to consider our offer and

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<v Speaker 2>join us, and then you could say things like we

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<v Speaker 2>solve a lot of your problems. So just consider that,

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's something to go workshop, and I think you

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<v Speaker 1>But Dave certainly talked about that when he saw something

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<v Speaker 3>But we'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get let's get to the reason we are together today.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, don't meet your heroes, and you made your

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<v Speaker 2>and you met him because I know that, because I

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<v Speaker 2>saw a picture of you and David Letterman. What happened?

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<v Speaker 2>How did that go? Was he a jerk? Was he

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<v Speaker 2>like you have a podcast about me, loser? Or was

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<v Speaker 2>he super cool? Tell us about David Letterman in real life?

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<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. It was an amazing experience. I'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the don't meet your heroes like it was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of those world colliding kind of moments.

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<v Speaker 1>I love when worlds collide, like when the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I used to go to Vancouver, so I live in

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<v Speaker 1>Vancouver's is an amazing city, and most artists who do

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<v Speaker 1>in particular that I would go see them play, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I could meet some of my favorite acts as

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<v Speaker 1>they would either arrive or you know, sometimes I would

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<v Speaker 1>I'd remember when I was maybe nineteen or twenty, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was going out to see Faith No More.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a bunch of us at the stage

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<v Speaker 1>door behind the Commodore Ballroom, and I met this old

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<v Speaker 1>was probably about forty five, okay, but I was nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>and to that, to me, that was an old guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a bunch of these kids who were

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to meet Faith No More. And there's this old

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<v Speaker 1>when you do this, and and he was started telling.

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<v Speaker 3>Us these stories. He's telling us the story.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you two showed up when you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>seventy nine, and he met them when they were going

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<v Speaker 1>up before they went up for their show, and and

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<v Speaker 1>and different different bands that he met, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>he gave me a piece of advice that I'm forever

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<v Speaker 3>And it was exactly what you're talking about. Don't meet

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<v Speaker 3>your heroes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, he said, meet your heroes, just make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you have zero expectation whatsoever when you meet them, Just zero,

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<v Speaker 1>because what if you meet.

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<v Speaker 3>Him on a bad day.

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<v Speaker 1>What if you meet him after they just had a

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<v Speaker 1>if you just met them after, you know, something something

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<v Speaker 3>They're also probably jet lag.

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<v Speaker 1>They're also waiting to do a show, they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're in a different spot. And if they're your hero,

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<v Speaker 1>chances are this part here, I've kind of refined over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, this part here, like, you know, if they're

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got notoriety, chances are they get him of

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<v Speaker 1>a stressful life and they may be able to make time,

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<v Speaker 1>they may not. But either way, just enjoy the experience

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<v Speaker 1>because you just got something that most of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to be in there watching that show

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<v Speaker 1>that night didn't get, and so I carried that with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now with Dave, those kid gloves have an extra kid

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<v Speaker 1>glove on top of each of them, because he's known.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got this personality that is unique, I think, misunderstood personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, people call a shaff famously, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>call them an a hole on on on on national television.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it's so much that. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a It's just a different, unique personality. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you have somebody with that much talent, guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>they may have some quirks in their personality, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So so, But that being said, those of us who

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<v Speaker 1>were there and met him that day, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>even a week ago, we all knew the score. There

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<v Speaker 1>were no autograph hounds out there other than us who

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<v Speaker 1>just would love to get something signed. The small group

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<v Speaker 1>of people that were there there were fans of my show,

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<v Speaker 1>which was very very interesting. We were all decked out

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<v Speaker 1>in letterman stuff, and so I think because of that

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<v Speaker 1>he decided to stop and take some time and spend

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<v Speaker 1>it with us. It was a fantastic experience. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a wise crack For every single one of us who

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<v Speaker 1>who said something to him, immediately he had a wise

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<v Speaker 1>crack back, which delighted us all. And yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was a very very positive experience. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we did. We went to the stage door. But it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to the stage door to see a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a band that I'm kind of into at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>It was to see my childhood hero. And so merging

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<v Speaker 1>the world's colliding of those two moments was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>That's super awesome. So he was just walking out from

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<v Speaker 2>the stage to the town car or whatever, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>So so we show up at the stage door and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're sitting there talking and it was cool

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<v Speaker 1>because I got a chance to get some of my

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nervous energy whatever you want to call it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the guys when I got there, they were like

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<v Speaker 1>stoked to see me. And so they start asking me

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<v Speaker 1>all these questions about stuff about staffers, about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that I talked about on the Letterman podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to talk to me about stuff that I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't say on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And and and there are things that are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in that little neutral zone of here's the stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>say on the show, here's the stuff that's in the

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<v Speaker 1>circle of trust for all of these staffers and these

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<v Speaker 1>people that I know that I would never say out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there's some of this stuff in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>here that is probably okay to talk about, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't talk about it necessarily on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of that stuff came out.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to unpack all that, because you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not on any kind of clock and we can get

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<v Speaker 2>to Dave I'm fascinated by. So I've been in media

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<v Speaker 2>for thirty something years, so I'm a little more used

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<v Speaker 2>to this than I think you are. Of running into

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<v Speaker 2>Letterman podcast fans, and one of the things I learned

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<v Speaker 2>in talk radio in the nineties and I've talked to people,

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<v Speaker 2>is you mentioned your cat Fluffy one time, and seven

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<v Speaker 2>years later you run into a fan and they go,

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<v Speaker 2>hou's Fluffy the cat doing? And You're like, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you know the name of my cat? And it's because

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<v Speaker 2>one time, at six fourteen in the morning on a

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<v Speaker 2>blizzard Monday, you mentioned Fluffy the cat, and your fans

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<v Speaker 2>create these parasocial relationships with you, and they they think

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<v Speaker 2>they know you, so they know Mike from the Letterman podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>who I assume is a shade of the real person,

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<v Speaker 2>just like I often talk about how Johnny Mack is

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<v Speaker 2>an exaggerated version of john that's all real. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like Adam Sandler comedies, but I don't rent and rave

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<v Speaker 2>about Adam Sandler comedies being an example of that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I find that really interesting. You also alluded to and

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<v Speaker 2>I've tried to explain this to folks over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>The people who get access don't talk about it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like the people who were actually getting laid

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<v Speaker 2>didn't need to tell you they were. And it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you can just go about your business and have stories

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<v Speaker 2>and then because you know how to role people trust you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I've talked about sidebar. So this is the thing

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<v Speaker 2>I find in my own life that if I just

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<v Speaker 2>talk about my own life, I wind up name dropping.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not trying to show off. I'm just talking

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<v Speaker 2>about my life. My wife and I went on a

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<v Speaker 2>long drive on Friday and we were listening to Bruno Mars,

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<v Speaker 2>and factually I have met Bruno Mars and he was

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<v Speaker 2>very cool, and we just talked about that, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was just reflect on my own life that I've been

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<v Speaker 2>fortunate and I've been able to do things. I met

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<v Speaker 2>Bruno Mars. I met him for two minutes once and

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<v Speaker 2>he was super cool. But I've met Bruno Mars and

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<v Speaker 2>most people haven't met Bruno Mars, and you just alluded

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<v Speaker 2>to that. Yes, you know so in my own life.

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<v Speaker 2>The example I usually use is I worked with Stephen

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<v Speaker 2>van Zant from the E Street Band for maybe five

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<v Speaker 2>years before I said the word Springsteen. But then our

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<v Speaker 2>relationship was I was just John that produced the show,

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<v Speaker 2>not Springsteen fan. Who's gonna askt even for tickets someday. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe by us mosis you pick up that

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<v Speaker 2>I speak the language or I know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was in the role of I'm here to

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<v Speaker 2>produce your show, mister van Zant, let's let's work on

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<v Speaker 2>this today, not oh my god, I've seen you forty

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<v Speaker 2>five times and I watched his friend hasn't all that?

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<v Speaker 2>So your instincts are correct. There are things we talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>There are the things that we might talk about. There

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<v Speaker 2>are things that we never talk about, and especially things

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<v Speaker 2>that are clearly off the clock. You know. So back

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<v Speaker 2>to the celebrities. If you're David Letterman, you probably just

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<v Speaker 2>want to walk the fifteen feet and get inside and

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<v Speaker 2>get your head into the show. But here are these

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<v Speaker 2>people who love you, and you've got to turn it

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<v Speaker 2>on for a couple of minutes and you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be there for them because and we're all human. If

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<v Speaker 2>Dave or van zandt to Bruno Mars has a bad

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<v Speaker 2>day that one time you met them, Oh so and

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<v Speaker 2>so was a jerk. I don't like so and so,

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<v Speaker 2>and it can ruin it. So for the celebrity, they've

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<v Speaker 2>got to be on all the time. Some of them

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<v Speaker 2>choose not to and don't care. Some of them are

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<v Speaker 2>really really good at it, and you'll walk away going wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm David Letterman's best friend. He knew

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<v Speaker 2>most so much about me. So I just find that

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<v Speaker 2>all interesting as you found yourself in those waters with

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<v Speaker 2>people who listen to you, because we do this right,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, all right, you know, my guy in

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<v Speaker 2>on the guy in a basement doing a podcast, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a Letterman podcast. I don't know who actually listens. Well, people

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<v Speaker 2>actually listen, and fans of yours and that's all interesting, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, uh, it was, it was fascinating. And and

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<v Speaker 1>the good news with me is that I'm me just

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<v Speaker 1>with the volume turned up. But for the most part,

424
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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty high energy. I'm I'm I'm like in real life,

425
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<v Speaker 1>you meet me, and and if you get me excited

426
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<v Speaker 1>about something, the enthusiasm just can't help but come out.

427
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<v Speaker 1>I've got the I've got a boylike enthusiasm that just

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<v Speaker 1>pops out. So that part there is super easy. Now,

429
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<v Speaker 1>if I had just had a fight with my wife again,

430
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<v Speaker 1>that that's that's you know, the situational part of it,

431
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<v Speaker 1>I might not be. But that day, because everybody was

432
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<v Speaker 1>sort of on the same page and everybody had a

433
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<v Speaker 1>singular focus. We were all little kids and and and

434
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<v Speaker 1>so they start asking me questions, and most of the

435
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<v Speaker 1>questions are like, hey, like like, let's talk about what's

436
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<v Speaker 1>Rupert really like. So I'm like, all right, well, let's

437
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<v Speaker 1>get the let's get the FaceTime out. Let's FaceTime Rupert

438
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<v Speaker 1>and and you know, and to them, they're like, oh

439
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<v Speaker 1>my god, like they just their heads exploded. So I

440
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<v Speaker 1>didn't need to even really like, I'll go I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you an example of I'll give you an example of

442
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<v Speaker 1>what you just said, and and something they asked me

443
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<v Speaker 1>and they said, okay, so are.

444
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<v Speaker 3>They going to record this?

445
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<v Speaker 1>Is it going to come out? Is it going to

446
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<v Speaker 1>come out? And I said no, and they said, well

447
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<v Speaker 1>why not. I said, here's the thing. Dave has a

448
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<v Speaker 1>show on Netflix. It's called My Next Guest needs no introduction.

449
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<v Speaker 1>It is, as far as Netflix goes, a very prestigious

450
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<v Speaker 1>show for their brand. It's one of their most prestigious shows.

451
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<v Speaker 1>Netflix views David Letterman as one of their signature stars,

452
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<v Speaker 1>and he is. He absolutely is. And the show has

453
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<v Speaker 1>a very distinct flavor. Over the seven or eight years

454
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<v Speaker 1>or whatever they've been doing them, they have really, really,

455
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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's got an identity of its own. And

456
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<v Speaker 1>when Dave does something like this at one of the

457
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<v Speaker 1>comedy festivals where he interviews somebody or has a conversation

458
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<v Speaker 1>with somebody on stage, it is similar to My Next Guest.

459
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<v Speaker 1>And if they were to record that and put it

460
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<v Speaker 1>out anywhere, that would diminish the star power or the

461
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<v Speaker 1>prestige of the uniqueness of what Dave is to Netflix,

462
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<v Speaker 1>and that wouldn't be a good thing, especially when you

463
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<v Speaker 1>consider Dave's got a staff and producers and people and

464
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<v Speaker 1>a team where their livelihoods depend on that show and

465
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<v Speaker 1>if it gets diminished, well that's not a good thing

466
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<v Speaker 1>for anybody. And so you know, they completely understood that

467
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<v Speaker 1>when I said them, great, I'm not telling him where

468
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<v Speaker 1>I got that information from. I'm not telling them who

469
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<v Speaker 1>if anybody specifically told me that or if so. There's

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<v Speaker 1>an example of sometimes you can let information out without

471
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<v Speaker 1>saying necessarily where it came from and how you know,

472
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<v Speaker 1>and all that sort of stuff. And so I had

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<v Speaker 1>a few little moments like that, and then there was

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of ones where somebody said, ask me a question.

475
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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, I don't know, you know, and I

476
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<v Speaker 3>just I can't answer that.

477
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<v Speaker 2>It's also because you are expert in the Letterman verse.

478
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<v Speaker 2>You just know stuff by osmosis or you just pick

479
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<v Speaker 2>up on things. No one has told me anything that

480
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<v Speaker 2>you said. No one has told me anything about a

481
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<v Speaker 2>Netflix deal or whatever. But it makes total sense. Netflix

482
00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.079
<v Speaker 2>has a comedy festival, JFL is a different comedy festival. Yes,

483
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<v Speaker 2>of course they don't want Dave to step on the

484
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<v Speaker 2>Netflix brand with something really similar. That all makes sense,

485
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<v Speaker 2>But I have no inside information there. But just top

486
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<v Speaker 2>of mine, because we're on this corner. I'm picking up

487
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<v Speaker 2>that Stephen Colbert keeps going out of his way to

488
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<v Speaker 2>say he thanks Letterman, he thanks CBS for the eleven years.

489
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<v Speaker 2>And I keep noticing he keeps phrasing it a certain way,

490
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<v Speaker 2>and my spidery sense is just going, huh, that seems deliberate.

491
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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know why, but it seems deliberate. No

492
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<v Speaker 2>one has told me that, but I've just been doing

493
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<v Speaker 2>this long enough and I notice things.

494
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've noticed that too. I'm grateful for the eleven

495
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<v Speaker 1>years that I've had on CBS or something like that. Yeah,

496
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<v Speaker 1>he's very and I mean I would think that it like,

497
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<v Speaker 1>what a unique way for his show. It's gonna be

498
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<v Speaker 1>interesting to look back, you know, five years from now,

499
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<v Speaker 1>to look back on this time and how how Colbert

500
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<v Speaker 1>show ends. I mean, you think about how Conan ended

501
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<v Speaker 1>his Tonight show run. You think about how and then

502
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<v Speaker 1>then his uh, his TBS run for that matter. You

503
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<v Speaker 1>think about how Dave of course left uh CBS and

504
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<v Speaker 1>and and it's just gonna be interesting to see what

505
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<v Speaker 1>Stephen does after this and reading the tea leaves that

506
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<v Speaker 1>you're reading right now, how the tea actually tastes on

507
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<v Speaker 1>the other side one when it served to us. It's

508
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<v Speaker 1>gonna be very very interesting to see how that goes.

509
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<v Speaker 1>But with all of the polarization that's happening, Dave sure

510
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<v Speaker 1>got out when he did at the right time, because

511
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<v Speaker 1>I look at the reaction he got in Vancouver, and

512
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the guy is an icon and Colbert will

513
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<v Speaker 1>be an icon as well. We're just gonna see how

514
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<v Speaker 1>that shapes out. But yeah, I I uh. When you

515
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<v Speaker 1>talk about seeing the seeing things that are going on, U,

516
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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly right. And sometimes it is common sense, but

517
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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you also have things confirmed that with a little

518
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<v Speaker 1>bit more specificy.

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<v Speaker 2>So more with Mike Chisholm from the Letterman Podcast after this,

520
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<v Speaker 2>So I love talking to you. We're a half hour

521
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<v Speaker 2>in the topic is you met David Letterman? And so

522
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.119
<v Speaker 2>far half hour in we've gotten as far as you're

523
00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:28.759
<v Speaker 2>standing there and David Letterman's about to get out of

524
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<v Speaker 2>a car. That's as far as we've gotten into the story.

525
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<v Speaker 2>Half an hour in.

526
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's.

527
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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened was the stage door for the Queen Elizabeth,

529
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<v Speaker 1>the Queen of his Elizabeth Theater is a beautiful, beautiful Theater,

530
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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's about three almost three thousand people.

531
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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Dave did thirty seconds on named after

532
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<v Speaker 1>Queen Elizabeth after her legendary run of whatever it was.

533
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<v Speaker 3>In the seventies, and that's why the theater was named

534
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<v Speaker 3>after her. And it was just, you know, he.

535
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<v Speaker 1>Made a an amazing Stanley Park joke, just such a

536
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<v Speaker 1>such a wonderful, wonderful night that was completely curated for

537
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<v Speaker 1>the audience that was in attendance. But the Queen Elizabeth

538
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<v Speaker 1>Theater has a main entrance and then there's a stage door.

539
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<v Speaker 1>We were by the stage door, and what happened was

540
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<v Speaker 1>it was actually Dave's entourage. In the entourage is two people,

541
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>his assistant and UH and and his guy.

542
00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:27.359
<v Speaker 3>They showed up and they showed up in front of Dave.

543
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<v Speaker 3>I was around the corner.

544
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<v Speaker 1>So the other four fans, two of them of our

545
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<v Speaker 1>show or three of them actually of our show.

546
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:38.720
<v Speaker 3>UH, were there and I was around the corner.

547
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<v Speaker 2>Wait, is Heave a limo guy or a town car guy?

548
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<v Speaker 1>No, it was an it was a it was a

549
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<v Speaker 1>white tahoe. Wasn't a black tahoe or anything like that.

550
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Zach came in a black one Dave came in a

551
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<v Speaker 1>white one but shows up and Park's partner.

552
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<v Speaker 2>That alone is interesting to me because I have this

553
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<v Speaker 2>whole story I won't tell her right now of uh

554
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<v Speaker 2>looking a white limousine for Jamie Fox at the super

555
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Bowl one time and he wouldn't ride in a white limousine.

556
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<v Speaker 2>The short version of this story is white limos are

557
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<v Speaker 2>for proms, and we had a black limousine out of

558
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:13.200
<v Speaker 2>our hat and it was very, very stressful. But it'll

559
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<v Speaker 2>take me half an hour tell that story, all right,

560
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<v Speaker 2>So it's a white tahoe. Dave is okay with all

561
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 2>sorts of palettes for his vehicles. That's good to know.

562
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<v Speaker 1>A R.

563
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was spit dropting, no, no, no, please.

564
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:28.319
<v Speaker 3>And anytime it was it was uh.

565
00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:32.319
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't even like it didn't even look like there

566
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<v Speaker 1>was no pomp and circumstance with it whatsoever.

567
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<v Speaker 3>It was.

568
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>It was not I would even say, nondescript. And uh. So,

569
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<v Speaker 1>So I was around the corner doing something and one

570
00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:46.880
<v Speaker 1>of the guys texted me get here now. I'm like, oh, okay,

571
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>So I go back around and uh and as I'm

572
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<v Speaker 1>walking towards I'm seeing Mary Barkley who you know. Dave's

573
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<v Speaker 1>Dave's right hand. She's on the Barber Gain show. Everyone

574
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<v Speaker 1>loves Everybody loves Mary. She's awesome. I see her, she

575
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>is just going into the venue. I think we caught eyes,

576
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 1>and I was just kind of like, I'm terrified of Mary.

577
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<v Speaker 1>I've said that from the very beginning. Every time I've

578
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<v Speaker 1>seen her in an event where she's there, I just

579
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of look at her. I'm like, I'm terrified of you.

580
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>It's just I don't know if it's a bit, but

581
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<v Speaker 1>I really am terrified of her. She's the gatekeeper, she's

582
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 1>she's you know. I don't want to piss Mary off.

583
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<v Speaker 3>Ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I see her, I see Dave starting to talk to

585
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the guys, and she goes into the venue. I'm like, okay,

586
00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and then I see Dave's guy as I'm walking over.

587
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<v Speaker 1>The second was maybe the third of the of the

588
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>group that were there had their moment with Dave, and

589
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of sidle up to Dave's guy and

590
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 1>I kind of, you know, let him know that I'm

591
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>there and I'm just watching Dave blow these guys' minds.

592
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.799
<v Speaker 3>And it was cool because I didn't get starstruck at all.

593
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:51.839
<v Speaker 1>I had a care package, a little care package for

594
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:53.359
<v Speaker 1>him that I didn't end up giving to him, but

595
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it had like funny things that had picture of Bruno Jerusi,

596
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:03.240
<v Speaker 1>who the beachcomber. I had that Dave was on Bruno

597
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Jerusy's Celebrity Chefs. That was his first television appearance once

598
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>he became a comedian, and it happened to be in Vancouver.

599
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 3>So I had a picture to.

600
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 1>That some Canadian snacks and things like that that I

601
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>would give to him if the opportunity arose. So I'm

602
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>sitting there just that with that patiently, and he finishes

603
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:29.359
<v Speaker 1>with I guess the fourth guy and I and I

604
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>just said, Dave man, I please take a selfie. And

605
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 1>this is where people said to me, did you tell

606
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 1>him who you were? Did he recognize you?

607
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 3>And all of that.

608
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<v Speaker 1>Never in a million years would I identify myself as

609
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<v Speaker 1>to who I was. If if if if it happened, great,

610
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:43.039
<v Speaker 1>if he recognized me, great, I know the deal.

611
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:45.440
<v Speaker 3>There's no way I'm gonna do that.

612
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Dave, I find wasn't really looking up each other in

613
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.039
<v Speaker 1>the eyes or anything like that because they were late

614
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>for rehearsal. Dave's other producer Walter, who runs the let

615
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.720
<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel. He'd shown up about twenty minutes earlier and

616
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 1>get a big hug, good to see you, and he's like,

617
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<v Speaker 1>I got to get in I'm late for rehearsal, and.

618
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:08.480
<v Speaker 3>We're like, okay, no problem.

619
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<v Speaker 1>And Dave didn't show up for another twenty minutes after that,

620
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>so you know, they needed to get in there. And

621
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<v Speaker 1>so I think Dave just wanted to give us our moment,

622
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>but he needed to get in there because he had

623
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.319
<v Speaker 1>stuff to do. The show was much more complex than

624
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>anybody ever realized it was going to be. There was

625
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a need for a rehearsal and a blocking, there's no

626
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:28.319
<v Speaker 1>question about that. But he did take that time for us.

627
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<v Speaker 1>So when he came over to me that the selfie

628
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<v Speaker 1>was great, he took us out. We made sure it

629
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<v Speaker 1>was a good picture, which was which was.

630
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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

631
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>And then I got him to sign a que card.

632
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.119
<v Speaker 1>I've got David lit him an autographs. There's one que

633
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>card in particular that I have that I just love.

634
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>It's actually a CBS joke and and and so he

635
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 1>signed it, and as he signed it, I was I

636
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>was hoping that maybe, just maybe we could get him

637
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>to perform the joke, and I've got.

638
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:55.319
<v Speaker 3>It right here.

639
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I know it's it's yours' audio mind's video though, So

640
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>this is from I believe it's ninety six. It might

641
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 1>have been the very first year of Survivor, and this

642
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>is the first show after the Survivor finale.

643
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Welcome my Name is Dave.

644
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>So Dave comes out, the monologue is about to start,

645
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Welcome my Name is Dave, CBS's only true Survivor, which

646
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>to me, with the benefit of hindsight, is ironic as

647
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>all get out. Dave the only guy that has that

648
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>called his own shot at CBS.

649
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:31.440
<v Speaker 3>He started when he started, and he ended when he ended.

650
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>While Survivor is over, now forty million Americans can now

651
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>get back into the habit of not watching CBS, which

652
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:42.039
<v Speaker 1>to me is funny beyond all measure. There's Dave's signature

653
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:43.599
<v Speaker 1>on the bottom there. By the way, if somebody is

654
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>ever going to look to get an autograph from one

655
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of their favorite celebrities, make sure you test the pen,

656
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>even if it's a brand new pen. Get it rolling here.

657
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Dave made a comment about how crappy of a pen

658
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was brand new, but I hadn't tested it,

659
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:58.559
<v Speaker 1>yet on the back of the card the head monologu

660
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>writer at the time gave Abelson, he signed it for

661
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>me and stuff. So this is a very special piece

662
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.160
<v Speaker 1>of cardboard to me. And I said to Dave, I said, Dave,

663
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I would love maybe if you could perform the joke,

664
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, if I was any good at performing jokes,

665
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I'd still have a show, which again was worth the

666
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 1>price of admission rate there for me. But I was

667
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 1>wearing a Barbara Gain shirt and so Dave's guy, as

668
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>we're going through this, points at my barber Gain' shirt

669
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>and he says, hey, Dave, look look like he tried

670
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>to give me. And of course Dave's guy knew what

671
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:34.640
<v Speaker 1>knw I was, and so he's pointing at my barber

672
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Gain shirt. And I appreciate that very, very very much,

673
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>because if there was more time or in another, you know,

674
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>slightly different tick of the universal time clock, Dave might

675
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:47.519
<v Speaker 1>have looked at it and it might have created another

676
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to then have that. But he was late for rehearsal,

677
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>so it was like no, no, no, you gotta go. There

678
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.839
<v Speaker 1>you go, guys, and we're all just flabbergasted. And it

679
00:32:57.880 --> 00:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>blew our minds. It blew our minds. It was an

680
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:03.839
<v Speaker 1>amazing encounter before an even more amazing show.

681
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.119
<v Speaker 3>So so that was that was That was a very

682
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:06.759
<v Speaker 3>very very.

683
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Special moment for these guys, especially like most people who

684
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>love David Letterman don't ever think they're going to have

685
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.519
<v Speaker 1>an encounter with David Letterman, and they all did. It

686
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>was a positive experience. I think you saw the video

687
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>of all of us afterwards. We were all giddy as schoolboys.

688
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>It was just a it was a phenomenal experience. So yeah,

689
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:28.799
<v Speaker 1>and then the show, well, this one other thing happened.

690
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 1>One of thing happened. But anyways, keep going ask that

691
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:31.839
<v Speaker 1>question and I'll tell you the other thing that happened.

692
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.599
<v Speaker 2>You also have a selfie with our good friend Paul Shaeffer.

693
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Dave goes he goes in, and we're all

694
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>standing there and we're all letting the moment kind of breathe,

695
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>but also like, what the hell just happened, and we

696
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.559
<v Speaker 1>were just kind of decompressing, and we had all this crazy,

697
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.119
<v Speaker 1>univerous energy that was going out, Like I think there

698
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:53.720
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit of dancing at one point. It

699
00:33:53.799 --> 00:34:00.319
<v Speaker 1>was just lovely, and then another very shiny, you.

700
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Know, you can tell it's kind of a high end rental.

701
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>But again, nondescript minivan shows up and we're all guy like,

702
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's go meet Zach.

703
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:08.920
<v Speaker 3>And we're just like.

704
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And there's a you know, maybe one hundred feet

705
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 1>or fifty feet between the where the vehicle stops in

706
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the stage door, and we're like okay, and out pops

707
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Paul Shaffer and all of us just kind of looked

708
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 1>at each other and we're like what because he was

709
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:27.599
<v Speaker 1>not advertised for the show, makes a lot of sense

710
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 1>that Paul might be there because they're up here in Canada.

711
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.320
<v Speaker 1>But it's West Coast Canada, you know, that ain't where

712
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:33.199
<v Speaker 1>Paul resides.

713
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Paul's yeah, you know, Canada is a big country. It's

714
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:40.599
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty big. But yeah, I was I when I

715
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:42.559
<v Speaker 2>saw the selfie, I was like, I don't think they

716
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.519
<v Speaker 2>announced Schaeffer and you know, well he's Canadian, so of

717
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:48.719
<v Speaker 2>course he would. But like like I said, like, you know,

718
00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not showing up in La today, right.

719
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 3>It it was. It was.

720
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:59.199
<v Speaker 1>It was a coda, and a surprising one, to say

721
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the least for all of us, Completely unexpected and we're like, okay,

722
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 1>so what's better than meeting Dave. Let's meet Dave and Paul.

723
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.159
<v Speaker 1>And Paul gets out of the van and he looks

724
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, guys, guys, guys, I'm really late, but

725
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:10.599
<v Speaker 1>I can't.

726
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:11.360
<v Speaker 3>I can't. I gotta go.

727
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get in there. And and he just we're

728
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like okay. He goes after like all right, true to

729
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.840
<v Speaker 1>his word. About forty minutes later, Paul comes out immediately

730
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.599
<v Speaker 1>recognizes me, which I was so stoked about because I

731
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>met Paul a few times and he's been on the

732
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>show and whatnot, so I've been it a few times.

733
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:32.159
<v Speaker 3>So he which delighted me to no end.

734
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Again, the inner child in me is just alive and

735
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:39.039
<v Speaker 1>well at this point, gives us some gives us all

736
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the glad hand and selfies and all that stuff.

737
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 3>One of the guys, who's.

738
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 1>A really really really old school late night fan, asks

739
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.559
<v Speaker 1>Paul about a song that he did for a bit

740
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:49.760
<v Speaker 1>called Mister Humidity. Paul'saying, I think, so, I think I

741
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>think I kind of remember it the guy sang it.

742
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.360
<v Speaker 1>He goes, yeah, I think I remember it, and uh

743
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:56.119
<v Speaker 1>and and that was fun and and and we had

744
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.639
<v Speaker 1>a we had we had a good time with him,

745
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.039
<v Speaker 1>and then and he's like, Okay, I gotta go. He left,

746
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.599
<v Speaker 1>and then we messaged, like Don Giller to find out

747
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:07.280
<v Speaker 1>about mister Humidity, and we found out all the details

748
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>about that, and he messaged us back and told us

749
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>about the dates and times and the lyrics of the

750
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>song and so that was fun. But yeah, we had

751
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 1>no idea Paul was going to be there. Now I

752
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>had heard that the original thought was that Marty Short

753
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 1>was going to be the guest.

754
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:24.639
<v Speaker 3>And it makes sense.

755
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.800
<v Speaker 1>The Canadiana of it all makes sense, and having Paul

756
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 1>there and whatnot. Marty Short has now been announced that

757
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>he is going to be one of two guests that

758
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Dave will speak to at the Netflix as a Joke

759
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Comedy festival in May down in La So one would

760
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>think that Paul is of course going to be a

761
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 1>part of that because he and Marty have this connection

762
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:46.320
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. So it makes sense if that was the case.

763
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know for a fact that it's the case,

764
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>but I know that there were some people that were

765
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:54.559
<v Speaker 1>scratching their heads before the show as to why Zach

766
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Galifanakis was chosen. But during the show it became very

767
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:02.199
<v Speaker 1>parent why it was Zach that was on stage with

768
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Dave and I can go into that here. But at

769
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.199
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, seeing Paul there definitely threw

770
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:12.119
<v Speaker 1>us through a loop. But when the show began, everything

771
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.360
<v Speaker 1>at all kind of all the pieces kind of came together.

772
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:19.800
<v Speaker 1>This was a very very well curated show. David Letterman

773
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.639
<v Speaker 1>is seventy eight years old. He could have very easily

774
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>just come out, made a couple very surfacy jokes. Everybody

775
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>would have been so happy about that, brought Zach out,

776
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:32.119
<v Speaker 1>had a meaningful conversation with him. He could probably do

777
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that on autopilot, because you know, he's had him on

778
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>My Next Guest before and it was a very very

779
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 1>good episode.

780
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:44.119
<v Speaker 3>I highly recommend it. But that wasn't this.

781
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>This was a very well put together show and a

782
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.920
<v Speaker 1>very well curated show, and having Paul there is a

783
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>part of that curation.

784
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Where does Paul live these days?

785
00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:57.840
<v Speaker 3>I think New York is where That's what I thought,

786
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.440
<v Speaker 3>where he spends most of his time. I think that's

787
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 3>where he is most of the time.

788
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, just living my life as a New Yorker.

789
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:10.239
<v Speaker 2>I was on Ninth Avenue at some point. I don't

790
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.639
<v Speaker 2>know in the last forty years getting food, and so

791
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>was Paul Schaeffer. But as New Yorkers, that happens, and

792
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:18.280
<v Speaker 2>New Yorkers tend to leave the celebs alone, and you know,

793
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:20.599
<v Speaker 2>just you'd notice. So, yeah, this Paul Shaffer and you

794
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:22.679
<v Speaker 2>just go about your business. So that's why I thought

795
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 2>he was from New York as well.

796
00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:27.760
<v Speaker 3>He plays a lot still, like like he and Will

797
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Lee will do gigs down at the Bitter.

798
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.679
<v Speaker 1>End with with OSINOI and and different musicians as well.

799
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:33.920
<v Speaker 3>He plays a lot of gigs out there still.

800
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.079
<v Speaker 1>And the night I saw him do that a few

801
00:38:36.119 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 1>years ago, you know, Paul's wife Kathy was there and

802
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>all that you could tell.

803
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 3>They just they came from home.

804
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, she stayed there for the first show, she

805
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:45.800
<v Speaker 1>went home and then and then Paul did the second

806
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>show as well. So yeah, I think I'm pretty sure

807
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 1>he spends most of his.

808
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:49.679
<v Speaker 3>Time in New York.

809
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.199
<v Speaker 2>And he also blew my mind. I guess I just

810
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.719
<v Speaker 2>don't pay attention that David Letterman is seventy eight, which

811
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:59.000
<v Speaker 2>is kind of sort of almost eighty. Yeah, boy, time

812
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:04.480
<v Speaker 2>goes fast because he seems younger, whereas I'm running into

813
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 2>clips of the worst person who ever lived Jay Leno,

814
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 2>and Jay seems old at these Like Jay all of

815
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:13.679
<v Speaker 2>a sudden got aged. His speaking voice has aged, He

816
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:17.320
<v Speaker 2>looks old. I'm sure it's the stress with Mavis doesn't help,

817
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:23.199
<v Speaker 2>but Jay has gotten old. Like I feel like I

818
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:27.000
<v Speaker 2>could throw a suit on Dave and maybe ask him

819
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.760
<v Speaker 2>to shave the beard, and he could fill in for

820
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Colbert next week, and you would be like, yeah, this

821
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>makes sense. And I'm not one hundred percent sure I

822
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.400
<v Speaker 2>could throw Jay Leno on the Tonight Show for a

823
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:41.559
<v Speaker 2>week in twenty twenty six. I don't say that with

824
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:44.920
<v Speaker 2>malice or anything. We're all getting older for everybody else.

825
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.159
<v Speaker 2>The first thing I said to Mike before we hit record,

826
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I jumped on the camera, looked at myself and said,

827
00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:50.880
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I'm getting bald or whatever I said

828
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:54.920
<v Speaker 2>about my own hairline. So you know, it's not a dig,

829
00:39:54.960 --> 00:40:00.119
<v Speaker 2>it's just time passes. But yeah, I I didn't think

830
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 2>of Dave as somebody who's sort of almost eighty.

831
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:04.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

832
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>And and and for me thinking about that kind of

833
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.159
<v Speaker 1>watching him on stage, I was in the second row.

834
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>And and and I no offense to Zach, but I

835
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>basically was watching Dave almost the entire time just to

836
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:20.679
<v Speaker 1>see mannerisms and things like that. You talk about when

837
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:22.519
<v Speaker 1>you know he might have to turn it on for

838
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the fans or whatever. I think that I think that

839
00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, similar to when you know shortly after nine eleven,

840
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.119
<v Speaker 1>within a couple of years after nine to eleven, Dave

841
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:33.440
<v Speaker 1>stopped going to rehearsals and and and part of that

842
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>was energy conservation. When he came out on stage, he

843
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>was the Dave that we the energy was super high,

844
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:44.519
<v Speaker 1>was super high. The way the show started was he

845
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.239
<v Speaker 1>did his own intro, and his intro was hilarious. He

846
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:49.400
<v Speaker 1>was off stage and he's like, ladies and gentlemen, welcome

847
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:51.320
<v Speaker 1>to the Queen Elizabeth Theater. And then he starts talking

848
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:55.039
<v Speaker 1>about the curling scandal that had been happening at the

849
00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Olympics with the Canadians with the double touch and things

850
00:40:57.760 --> 00:40:58.760
<v Speaker 1>like that that were happening.

851
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.360
<v Speaker 2>And Nice did not have a good week. I forgot,

852
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:06.679
<v Speaker 2>why are you cheating at curly? What are you doing?

853
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.119
<v Speaker 2>And it was more than once right the Swedes.

854
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:12.679
<v Speaker 1>The Swedes were not happy with with the way that

855
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 1>the Canadians curled, and and and uh yeah, it was

856
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:19.639
<v Speaker 1>it was oh man, and and and funny to hear

857
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.119
<v Speaker 1>because it had just because we saw him on the Wednesday,

858
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it was the Monday where where where that

859
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:27.280
<v Speaker 1>all happened. So clearly he's he's he's uh, you know,

860
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.119
<v Speaker 1>clearly his introduction for himself is a living document because

861
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's throw in this, let's.

862
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Throw in that.

863
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:35.880
<v Speaker 1>And he comes out on stage and he any and

864
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>he starts. You know, when Walter Kim was there and

865
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and and Walter was is the guy who runs all

866
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:47.679
<v Speaker 1>of Dave's his his his curated content, his his late

867
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:49.800
<v Speaker 1>night his late show stuff, the YouTube channel, all of

868
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that stuff that's Walter's world. Walter runs all of that,

869
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the Barber Gain show, you know, he films that and

870
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.719
<v Speaker 1>and edits and puts it all up. So Walter was there,

871
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and and as Dave comes out on stage, she's sitting

872
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>there talking about his history. And he would go through

873
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>his history and then Walter would put clips up, and

874
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:08.760
<v Speaker 1>so we got clips of Dave. By the way, a

875
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:12.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't remember this or or have noted

876
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.159
<v Speaker 1>this necessarily, but back in the day when Dave was

877
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.159
<v Speaker 1>at the radio station, I believe it was in Muncie.

878
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:21.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it was at Muncie.

879
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I just like saying Munsie, but he was there, and

880
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:25.280
<v Speaker 1>it showed a picture of him and he had this

881
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.079
<v Speaker 1>huge beard and now it was a hutter right beard.

882
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:29.119
<v Speaker 1>He had no mustache, but he had a big beard

883
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 1>at that point and it was it was neat to

884
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:31.320
<v Speaker 1>see that.

885
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:32.559
<v Speaker 3>So they would show pictures of him.

886
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:36.519
<v Speaker 1>Then they showed as he was building his They showed

887
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the clip with him and Bruno Jerusy Canadian own beachcomber

888
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Bruno Drewsy.

889
00:42:40.920 --> 00:42:41.920
<v Speaker 3>They showed clips of that.

890
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.639
<v Speaker 1>They showed the Mary Tyler Moore clip, the famous clip

891
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:48.079
<v Speaker 1>where where Dave and Michael Keaton are doing the singing

892
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:52.119
<v Speaker 1>and dancing on stage, and it was fun. It looked

893
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.000
<v Speaker 1>like Walter was messing with him a little bit because

894
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.280
<v Speaker 1>the clip was on and then Dave's like, Okay, that's enough,

895
00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:59.679
<v Speaker 1>and they let the clip keep going and he's like, Walter, no,

896
00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>like he's really to stop the clip.

897
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:05.079
<v Speaker 3>They let the clip go all the way, showed.

898
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:10.599
<v Speaker 2>Clip from my shows. Listeners just really quickly explain, please sorry.

899
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:14.119
<v Speaker 2>After the Mary Tyler Moore show, Mary Tyler Moore at

900
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:17.639
<v Speaker 2>a variety show on CBS, and the cast did include

901
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Michael Keaton and a youngish David Letterman. And if you

902
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:25.239
<v Speaker 2>want to see Dave dressed like a nerd doing typical

903
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's early eighties variety show, singing and dancing,

904
00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.760
<v Speaker 2>picture the Brady Bunch Kids Variety Hour, and throw David

905
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Letterman on that and you're close enough. Sorry I have

906
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>interrupted again, Mike.

907
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.320
<v Speaker 3>No, please, do I do that all the time.

908
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I assume people know what I'm talking about, which is

909
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>rarely the case. And so he uh, you know, went

910
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.159
<v Speaker 1>through his history and hilarious as he did it. I mean,

911
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 1>he brought up the they brought up the Trump tweet

912
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.079
<v Speaker 1>where you know, whatever happened to David Letterman, no talent,

913
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.679
<v Speaker 1>no this or like you know, it's it's a kind

914
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 1>of worked like a badge of honor. But then he

915
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 1>he started talking about how much he loved loves Canada

916
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:07.079
<v Speaker 1>and and and uh, I don't know. It was almost

917
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>like if there was a theme of the show was

918
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>acting as an emissary, you know, to say, hey, you know,

919
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:19.519
<v Speaker 1>we acknowledge some of the stuff that's being said in

920
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the greater narrative of the world right now, and what's

921
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:24.079
<v Speaker 1>happening in the Canada US tensions and things like that,

922
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and and and he really really did a great job

923
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:29.599
<v Speaker 1>of playing on that, not in a way that the

924
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:33.960
<v Speaker 1>current late night talk shows do, not to create more polarization.

925
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 3>Not to I mean, he poked.

926
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Fun at at at Donald President Trump, of course, you know,

927
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:42.320
<v Speaker 1>because of the tweets and some of the direct things

928
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, But he didn't really it wasn't a it

929
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a bashing or anything like that. It was just

930
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>more of a recognition of what was going on, and hey,

931
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:52.159
<v Speaker 1>let's let's.

932
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:52.599
<v Speaker 3>Make this better.

933
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:55.679
<v Speaker 1>By the way, the ovation that Dave got I should

934
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.599
<v Speaker 1>I really need to note that when he brought himself

935
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>out the place. To say the place went nuts is

936
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.679
<v Speaker 1>not accurate. It was way more than that. And and

937
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I'd never seen Dave in a space that big before.

938
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.079
<v Speaker 1>I've seen him at the Rector Mantamon Theater and and

939
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>another theater in la And then of course he had

940
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Sullivan Theater, you know, at Sullivant Theater four hundred seats,

941
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.360
<v Speaker 1>five hundred seats. That's the most Manzban's least like the

942
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.199
<v Speaker 1>other ones are intimate, they're smaller, but this place three

943
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:29.239
<v Speaker 1>thousand seats, and the entire place erupted in a standing

944
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.280
<v Speaker 1>ovation that would shake the foundation. It was, and it

945
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>was long, long enough that Dave got really uncomfortable. Okay,

946
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.199
<v Speaker 1>like it was a long, long, long thing. Then he

947
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>went through what I just talked about, uh, you know,

948
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.960
<v Speaker 1>roll at Walter and and and and and and the

949
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:48.280
<v Speaker 1>video clips and whatnot, and then he brought Paul Shaffer

950
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:51.519
<v Speaker 1>out on stage, and everybody went crazy for Paul Shaeffer

951
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and uh as almost as crazy for Paul as Dave.

952
00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:57.559
<v Speaker 3>And Dave said here, this is a.

953
00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Song that I've I used to get Paul to play

954
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:02.880
<v Speaker 1>every once in a while on the show. And he goes,

955
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>it's a song that I love and we're going to

956
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.519
<v Speaker 1>sing it together right now, and a huge Canadian flag

957
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.880
<v Speaker 1>comes from the rafters down and we sing Oh Canada,

958
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:13.519
<v Speaker 1>and Paul leads us to sing o Canada with his

959
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 1>beautiful Steinway and Soun's grand piano that's on stage just

960
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:18.719
<v Speaker 1>off to the left of the chairs that Dave and

961
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Zach would occupy. So we sing O Canada together and

962
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that was a lot of fun. So that was how

963
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the show started. And this is probably twenty minutes before

964
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Zach even comes out, So that alone the prep for that,

965
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, the writing of it, the rewriting, the revisions

966
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>of it that would have taken a lot of effort

967
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.360
<v Speaker 1>to do. That wasn't necessary because the place sold out

968
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in four minutes. So they rose to the occasion to

969
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:48.280
<v Speaker 1>give us something that was unique. And this is all

970
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:50.519
<v Speaker 1>before Zach comes out. So it was a beautiful, beautiful

971
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:52.280
<v Speaker 1>precursor to what was then about to happen.

972
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Take one more break and we'll come back and talk

973
00:46:55.320 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 2>more with Mike Chisholm from The Letterman Podcast. My mind

974
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.320
<v Speaker 2>is now thinking more about this event, so let me

975
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:09.320
<v Speaker 2>break this support several ways. We're just for laughs. We're

976
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:13.000
<v Speaker 2>going to throw a comedy festival. It's not our big one.

977
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Our big ones in Montreal, we have some international ones.

978
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:19.199
<v Speaker 2>This is a bit of a newer one. Let's book

979
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:23.039
<v Speaker 2>some comedians. Okay, So and so's touring. We're tight with

980
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:26.880
<v Speaker 2>these agents, We're tight with these managers. These people are

981
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:29.079
<v Speaker 2>friends of the festival and off and do the festivals.

982
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:33.199
<v Speaker 2>Let's get some local people in. And then somebody said,

983
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:40.440
<v Speaker 2>let's ask David Letterman like that just seems odd. I'll continue.

984
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:47.239
<v Speaker 2>If you're David Letterman, Okay, yeah, I'm reasonably retired. Ish

985
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:50.159
<v Speaker 2>if I need to scratch a creative itch. I'll just

986
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.000
<v Speaker 2>go on the Barber Gain Show. If I'm I want

987
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:55.480
<v Speaker 2>to comment on current events, I'll go on the Barber

988
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Gain Show. Or I could, I guess, just go on

989
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.639
<v Speaker 2>YouTube myself. I could give an interview with The New

990
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:02.559
<v Speaker 2>York Times. If I feel like I need to be heard,

991
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:05.519
<v Speaker 2>if I need to perform, I can go to Los

992
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Angeles and the Netflix Comedy Festival, with whom I have

993
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:15.559
<v Speaker 2>a relationship. So why is David Letterman at JFL Vancouver.

994
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Even JFL Montreal would be a one hour flight in

995
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.480
<v Speaker 2>and out and I'm back home for dinner. Why is

996
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:29.360
<v Speaker 2>David Letterman going to Vancouver? And all Schaefer comes that

997
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.840
<v Speaker 2>just this is I'm adding up two and two and

998
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:34.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting seventeen here.

999
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, and I mean, it's funny at seventy eight that

1000
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 1>this kind of of a path might reveal itself. But

1001
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>first off, JFL Vancouver, I believe this is ten years,

1002
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:50.679
<v Speaker 1>like I remember just before the pandemic, and I'm talking

1003
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe weeks before the pandemic. In twenty twenty, I went

1004
00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:56.199
<v Speaker 1>and saw Bill Burr for the just for laughs. So

1005
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:58.079
<v Speaker 1>this is back in twenty twenty, I saw Burrs one

1006
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>of the headliners. But I hear where you're coming from.

1007
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's.

1008
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 2>And there was a at some point, just for laughs,

1009
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:08.159
<v Speaker 2>teamed up with an existing Vancouver comedy festival. I believe

1010
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:13.360
<v Speaker 2>the actual festival is longer than something titled JFL Vancouver,

1011
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:15.960
<v Speaker 2>because exactly I remember this being around when I was

1012
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:17.840
<v Speaker 2>that serious and some of my serious stories are twenty

1013
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:23.320
<v Speaker 2>years old now. But the this is adding up to

1014
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:28.119
<v Speaker 2>as a one off. Dave's in Vancouver and Paul shows

1015
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:33.760
<v Speaker 2>up and yeah, okay, Paul's Canadian. Fine. Uh, just seems

1016
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:34.920
<v Speaker 2>like something is afoot.

1017
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a blueprint personally, and I don't necessarily

1018
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 1>have any information to back that up other than to

1019
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:47.400
<v Speaker 1>say to me where Dave has carved himself out. You know,

1020
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.760
<v Speaker 1>they kind of positioned him that he was headlining the festival,

1021
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of neat, and I think I believe

1022
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.760
<v Speaker 1>where are we here? I think tonight Jerry Seinfeld finishes

1023
00:49:57.760 --> 00:49:59.639
<v Speaker 1>the festival at the same theater Dave was at.

1024
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:01.519
<v Speaker 3>I believe that's tonight. I believe that's happening.

1025
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.400
<v Speaker 1>So there's probably some sort of connection there as well,

1026
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.239
<v Speaker 1>because I believe they have some common people in their

1027
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:11.880
<v Speaker 1>administrative teams that that that might have maybe made that happen.

1028
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:14.920
<v Speaker 1>So that's one way you know you're gonna get Seinfeld. Well, hey,

1029
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.480
<v Speaker 1>what if we also brought Dave? That might be part

1030
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:17.719
<v Speaker 1>of it.

1031
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:18.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1032
00:50:18.159 --> 00:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not exactly certain about that. But the idea though,

1033
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:25.840
<v Speaker 1>to have a comedy festival that's all stand ups is

1034
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:28.639
<v Speaker 1>one thing, okay, But what if we included performance art?

1035
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.039
<v Speaker 1>What if we included some podcasts? What if we included

1036
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:34.360
<v Speaker 1>which which they did at JFL Vancouver this year.

1037
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.199
<v Speaker 3>And then also, oh, here's a unique way.

1038
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.679
<v Speaker 1>What if we brought Letterman in and he talked to

1039
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Zach isn't necessarily known as as as a stand up,

1040
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:45.719
<v Speaker 1>but certainly a performance artist. What if what if David

1041
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Letterman came in and had a conversation with one of

1042
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the top stand ups. He's been doing that for a

1043
00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:53.039
<v Speaker 1>few years here, He's been doing it on Netflix, but

1044
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>also on these little one off shows for other festivals

1045
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and things like that. To me, that's a that's a

1046
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:04.000
<v Speaker 1>bankable different face or a different event to put into

1047
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>a festival. Some of my favorite bands, they don't really

1048
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.360
<v Speaker 1>tour anymore, but they will go to all the different

1049
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:12.639
<v Speaker 1>festivals in Europe and all the different big festivals and

1050
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:17.199
<v Speaker 1>things like that, it's an easier road to travel to me,

1051
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:22.039
<v Speaker 1>if Dave did need to scratch this itch, which clearly

1052
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.320
<v Speaker 1>he does, because he loved it. So you could tell

1053
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:28.400
<v Speaker 1>he loved being up there. He loved that moment, just

1054
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.159
<v Speaker 1>like he used to talk about, you know, my whole

1055
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>day is a terrible day except for the hour between

1056
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:36.880
<v Speaker 1>five and six o'clock, and that is my you know,

1057
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the favorite part of my day. He got a chance

1058
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:43.559
<v Speaker 1>to experience that there. I think the idea of him

1059
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:45.880
<v Speaker 1>doing this at other festivals or perhaps even going out

1060
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and having an evening with you know, David Letterman and

1061
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.039
<v Speaker 1>somebody in different cities, to me, that is something that

1062
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:56.559
<v Speaker 1>he would have access to whenever he wanted to at

1063
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:57.480
<v Speaker 1>this time in his life.

1064
00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:00.760
<v Speaker 3>And that's a that's a beautiful, beauty thing that he

1065
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:01.159
<v Speaker 3>has that.

1066
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm adding up too and two and I'm getting

1067
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.000
<v Speaker 2>nine hundred and forty four. I want you to write

1068
00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:12.719
<v Speaker 2>this conspiracy theory down. Okay, uh huh. So you're David Letterman.

1069
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Remember the Cone Intour? Yes, of course, you remember the

1070
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Cone Intour. Remember the Cone Intour you, David, Yes, Dave

1071
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:24.320
<v Speaker 2>does seem a little bothered by the news of the day.

1072
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:26.559
<v Speaker 2>More often the key hit out for a while and

1073
00:52:26.599 --> 00:52:30.760
<v Speaker 2>he's a little commenty. Now, so let's put that out there.

1074
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Mm hm. The Ed Sullivan Theater becomes vacant in June. Yeah, okay,

1075
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 2>but just put that there. Maybe you go to Vancouver

1076
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.800
<v Speaker 2>because it's a three thousand seat theater, so it's even

1077
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:49.880
<v Speaker 2>if jfl overpays him, it's not a oh my god,

1078
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:53.719
<v Speaker 2>I got I can't turn this down. I'm playing Wembley

1079
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Stadium typeay day. It's a three thousand seat theater. So

1080
00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:58.719
<v Speaker 2>even if you overpay the man, you still have to

1081
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 2>run a festival and it has to makes sense. So

1082
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:05.760
<v Speaker 2>it's not about the money. It's about the performance. And

1083
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 2>if you workshop a show at the Netflix Festival in

1084
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles, you're being noticed. Maybe perhaps possibly maybe perhaps

1085
00:53:19.400 --> 00:53:23.920
<v Speaker 2>we're looking at some sort of theater run involving Paul Schaeffer,

1086
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:28.519
<v Speaker 2>and there's going to be a theater available. And again

1087
00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:31.239
<v Speaker 2>I added up to and two and just got four thousand.

1088
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:35.679
<v Speaker 2>But let's just write that down and maybe in August

1089
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:38.320
<v Speaker 2>you and I can connect and be like, see, I

1090
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:40.519
<v Speaker 2>almost had it right, except for the part with the datata.

1091
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Dave's former executive producer and one of my favorite

1092
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.320
<v Speaker 1>people in the world. His name is Robert Morton Morty

1093
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.119
<v Speaker 1>as he was known on the show. He came on

1094
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:52.519
<v Speaker 1>my show, I don't know how long ago, six months maybe,

1095
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:53.639
<v Speaker 1>and we.

1096
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:54.239
<v Speaker 3>Talked about that.

1097
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:57.079
<v Speaker 1>We talked about the Insullivan Theater and the idea was

1098
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 1>thrown out Netflix should buy the theater.

1099
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, you think about what we forgot to verbalize

1100
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:03.800
<v Speaker 2>that as part of my conspiracy theory, yes.

1101
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like what if they did that and what if

1102
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.119
<v Speaker 1>there was an opportunity that once a month, once every

1103
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:10.840
<v Speaker 1>three months. You think about Billy Joel, you know, playing

1104
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Madison Square Garden once a month, you know, just to

1105
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:15.920
<v Speaker 1>leave the house, go to MSG, play a show, go

1106
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 1>home there you go. Pretty pretty cut and dry, right,

1107
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Imagine if they had that tool at their disposal where

1108
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:25.760
<v Speaker 1>some of their performers could go and utilize that theater

1109
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:29.119
<v Speaker 1>with this with its history, with now its technology. They

1110
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.400
<v Speaker 1>upgraded that a lot of that place and like a

1111
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:34.400
<v Speaker 1>year ago or a year and a half ago for

1112
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.199
<v Speaker 1>the first time the audio room, there's a guy by

1113
00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the name of Harvey Goldberg who who is the the

1114
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:43.400
<v Speaker 1>maestro of the musical performance there. How they blend live

1115
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and produce music and create this amazing opportunity for live

1116
00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:50.480
<v Speaker 1>performance for artists. I mean, they spent a lot of

1117
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:54.199
<v Speaker 1>money on that thing to upgrade that. The recording studio

1118
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:55.639
<v Speaker 1>they have there in the and the and the mixing

1119
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:58.000
<v Speaker 1>studio they have there a lot of money. So there's

1120
00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:00.119
<v Speaker 1>a ton of technology in that place as well. Well.

1121
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Imagine if they had that for when they.

1122
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Have some of their featured comics to do specials and

1123
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and and to be able to use it as a

1124
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>utility tool for what Netflix is trying to build. To me,

1125
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that's a it's it's it's a no brainer. But again

1126
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming from a fan perspective saying that as well, right,

1127
00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:20.400
<v Speaker 1>being excited about the idea.

1128
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:23.400
<v Speaker 2>But it all makes sense. You want to tell me? Saturday,

1129
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 2>September whatever, ten pm, Live from the Ed Sullivan Theater.

1130
00:55:28.239 --> 00:55:31.679
<v Speaker 2>My next guest is yep, Stephen Colbert, who we haven't

1131
00:55:31.679 --> 00:55:37.960
<v Speaker 2>heard from all summer. Yeah, that's Netflix's playbook. Again, I'm

1132
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:40.719
<v Speaker 2>deep in the weeds. But why would David Letterman go

1133
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:45.400
<v Speaker 2>to Vancouver? Whye I know who is lovely but he's

1134
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:46.440
<v Speaker 2>David Letterman. Why?

1135
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I uh, I couldn't agree more. There's some

1136
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:55.559
<v Speaker 1>stuff I'll tell you offline as well that the parts

1137
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:57.840
<v Speaker 1>of this that I can't I can't say here, but

1138
00:55:58.039 --> 00:55:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I will.

1139
00:55:59.360 --> 00:56:01.719
<v Speaker 3>I do not believe this is a one off.

1140
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:04.679
<v Speaker 1>And I'll say that and and and and I'm pretty

1141
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:07.280
<v Speaker 1>sure if it's not a one off, there are gonna

1142
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:11.119
<v Speaker 1>be other places that that that have the opportunity, uh

1143
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:14.079
<v Speaker 1>to to experience what I got to experience last Wednesday.

1144
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.119
<v Speaker 1>And and I certainly hope that that is the case.

1145
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:19.920
<v Speaker 1>And anybody out there who does enjoy David Letterman, if

1146
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you have the chance to go see him, it is

1147
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:25.960
<v Speaker 1>worth it. It will be money well spent. Highly recommend it.

1148
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:31.519
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, which Letterman am I getting? Am I getting watermelon? Letterman?

1149
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Am I getting? Throwing cards? Am I getting Elder Statesman Dave? Or?

1150
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.559
<v Speaker 2>Is it depend on the minute? What Dave am I getting?

1151
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:40.519
<v Speaker 1>I think it depends on the guest. I think the

1152
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:44.039
<v Speaker 1>Dave that came out and and and and you know,

1153
00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.519
<v Speaker 1>but pre show, the pre show Dave, you're getting somebody

1154
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:49.199
<v Speaker 1>who really cares about what you're gonna see to make

1155
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.639
<v Speaker 1>you laugh, to to enjoy. Is he gonna throw macaroni

1156
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:54.599
<v Speaker 1>and cheese in the audience, like the Bare Naked Ladies

1157
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:57.440
<v Speaker 1>do sometimes when they perform in Canada. No, not necessarily.

1158
00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're gonna see that zany part. I

1159
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:03.400
<v Speaker 1>think you'll see reference to it perhaps, But then it

1160
00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:04.400
<v Speaker 1>depends on the guest.

1161
00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:07.480
<v Speaker 3>And the guest that we had here was Zach Galvinakis.

1162
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:09.760
<v Speaker 3>And let me tell.

1163
00:57:09.559 --> 00:57:13.519
<v Speaker 1>You, Johnny, it was a There were a couple of

1164
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>moments there that were Andy Kaufman. There was an Andy

1165
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:20.519
<v Speaker 1>Kaufman moment during this show. Now it's not watermelons being

1166
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:25.159
<v Speaker 1>thrown off a tower, but it was that same manipulation

1167
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:28.920
<v Speaker 1>of feelings that isn't just we're gonna make you laugh. Now,

1168
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:30.360
<v Speaker 1>we might touch you a little bit, then we're gonna

1169
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:32.079
<v Speaker 1>make you laugh and make you laugh more. No, it was,

1170
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.039
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was more than that. So I would

1171
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:36.719
<v Speaker 1>say the answer to that question is it depends on

1172
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:42.360
<v Speaker 1>the guest, because I think Dave can as as as

1173
00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:45.639
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, the greatest broadcaster of all time. Dave

1174
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:50.119
<v Speaker 1>can be Barbara Walters and ask the tough questions and

1175
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.239
<v Speaker 1>and and and or not even tough questions, but maybe

1176
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:54.519
<v Speaker 1>the heartfelt questions and and and go for a narrative.

1177
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:58.159
<v Speaker 1>He's got that skill. But he's also got the skill

1178
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:01.119
<v Speaker 1>where he can shoot the shot the bull about comedy,

1179
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:04.280
<v Speaker 1>where comedy comes from, where these premises come from, and

1180
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 1>and and and and like he like I saw him

1181
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:08.920
<v Speaker 1>do with Nate Bargassi a few years ago, or he

1182
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:11.440
<v Speaker 1>can do what he did with Zach, which which which

1183
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:13.880
<v Speaker 1>is yes, ask about some of the things going on

1184
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:14.440
<v Speaker 1>with Zach.

1185
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:16.199
<v Speaker 3>Why was Zach chosen?

1186
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:20.800
<v Speaker 1>He lives you know, in Vancouver now or just off Vancouver,

1187
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:24.239
<v Speaker 1>one of the islands out there, with his Canadian wife,

1188
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and and and has kind of he talked about how

1189
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:31.440
<v Speaker 1>he did not want to be in la anymore. He

1190
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:32.800
<v Speaker 1>did not like the way he does not like the

1191
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:34.840
<v Speaker 1>way technology is driving things, He does not like the

1192
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:38.719
<v Speaker 1>way the show business is and and wanted to get

1193
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:41.719
<v Speaker 1>away from that, despite still wanting to be a performer.

1194
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:44.199
<v Speaker 1>He just couldn't live in it anymore. And now we're

1195
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.320
<v Speaker 1>all in the audience going, oh my goodness, oh my goodness.

1196
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 1>And he starts to you know, articulate on some very

1197
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:52.239
<v Speaker 1>very serious things, but then would go on a dime

1198
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:56.360
<v Speaker 1>to zany and then on another dime to something completely

1199
00:58:56.400 --> 00:59:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Andy K. Kaufman esque. So really I think it's your question.

1200
00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Is it depends?

1201
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I've got a quick Kaufman story that I have

1202
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to get out of my system, please. So the New

1203
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:11.199
<v Speaker 2>York Comedy Festival had started the Kaufman Awards and Christian

1204
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Shall had won it, and that's how I got to

1205
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.880
<v Speaker 2>know Christian Kristen a little bit. So I got to

1206
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:20.119
<v Speaker 2>know Michael Kaufman, Andy's brother, and we started to talk

1207
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:23.920
<v Speaker 2>about what we could do to honor whatever term you

1208
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:26.639
<v Speaker 2>want to use Andy Kaufman. At Serious we used to

1209
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.320
<v Speaker 2>have these things called town halls where you would book

1210
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:32.119
<v Speaker 2>a celebrity and have some super fans come up. So

1211
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:35.079
<v Speaker 2>David Letterman's coming up and twelve people like you would

1212
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:37.360
<v Speaker 2>kill to be in that room, and we would broadcast

1213
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:42.800
<v Speaker 2>these things. So Michael Kaufman agreed we would do Andy

1214
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Kaufman town Hall. He was totally in on this. I

1215
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:48.039
<v Speaker 2>couldn't convince my boss that this was a great idea,

1216
00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:50.639
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sad we didn't do this. So the idea

1217
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:52.840
<v Speaker 2>was we were going to announce the Kaufviman estate was

1218
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:55.519
<v Speaker 2>willing to announce that on you know, whatever day, Andy

1219
00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Kaufman town Hall was going to happen. And Andy was

1220
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.559
<v Speaker 2>going to come, and then we were going to have

1221
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:04.440
<v Speaker 2>the event and invite people up, and Andy would run

1222
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 2>late and continue to run late, and continue to run late,

1223
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:08.880
<v Speaker 2>et cetera, et cetera. And we were going to have

1224
01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Kristin Shaw kill time for us, and we never really

1225
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:14.159
<v Speaker 2>got to how that would all resolve itself. But he

1226
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:15.920
<v Speaker 2>was willing to put out a press release with a

1227
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:20.519
<v Speaker 2>quote from Andy, et cetera. And this but the other thing.

1228
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:23.639
<v Speaker 2>As I'm sitting there having lunch with him, since he's

1229
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Andy's brother and many years have gone by, I start

1230
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:31.119
<v Speaker 2>going down in my brain. I'm like, wait, maybe this

1231
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:34.719
<v Speaker 2>is Andy Kaufman and he's doing a bit to me.

1232
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there is no Michael, and I'm in my own

1233
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:40.280
<v Speaker 2>head getting crazy with this thing. But we never actually

1234
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:43.320
<v Speaker 2>did it. Around that same time, I got to know

1235
01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Bob Zmuda a little bit who was in the Kaufman cycles,

1236
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:51.320
<v Speaker 2>and some people think talking some people think Bob would

1237
01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:56.360
<v Speaker 2>sometimes play the role of Tony Clifton, but but Zmuda

1238
01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:59.239
<v Speaker 2>was kind enough to book Tony Clifton to come up

1239
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:03.800
<v Speaker 2>to Sirius the next day, and mister Clifton showed up

1240
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:06.639
<v Speaker 2>in the lobby and didn't have any id that said

1241
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Tony Clifton, so security would not let Tony Clifton in

1242
01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:14.159
<v Speaker 2>the building. And Tony Clifton, being Tony, threw a tantrum

1243
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:16.559
<v Speaker 2>and stormed off and never came in. And then Bob

1244
01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:18.800
<v Speaker 2>called me later and told me what would happen and

1245
01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:23.000
<v Speaker 2>out come Clifton had never shown up. Fun stuff.

1246
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Tony Clifton is one of my dream guests for The

1247
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Letterman Podcast. He would be the ultimate because I love

1248
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.039
<v Speaker 1>featuring people who have been on the show on our

1249
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 1>show and I want, I hope that that grows into

1250
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:34.159
<v Speaker 1>that more.

1251
01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 3>And Tony Clifton has always been He's.

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<v Speaker 1>In my top five guests to be on the Letterman

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast for for reasons just like that. The idea that

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<v Speaker 1>he's down on the lobby and can't get up is

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<v Speaker 1>just hysterical to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel bad for whoever.

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01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Not just the security guards because that's what they're meant

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<v Speaker 1>to do, but the people who are behind, like the

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01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:57.719
<v Speaker 1>counter the administration people that day. I just I feel

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01:01:57.719 --> 01:01:59.400
<v Speaker 1>so bad for them. They had no idea what was

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01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:01.360
<v Speaker 1>coming for them that day that they came to work.

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<v Speaker 1>That is just a beautiful, beautiful story.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me just for again my listeners who may

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01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:08.559
<v Speaker 2>be less hip to this. So back in the day

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<v Speaker 2>Andy Kaufman, there were people who believed that sometimes Andy

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01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Kaufman would perform a character known as Tony Clifton, who

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<v Speaker 2>was this big, loud guy who thought he had invented

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01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.480
<v Speaker 2>show business. Now, of course Andy Kaufman is not Tony Clifton.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Clifton is a completely distinct, separate person. But talk

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01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:34.599
<v Speaker 2>shows would book Tony Clifton thinking they had booked Andy Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course Andy Kaufman and Tony Clifton are two

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<v Speaker 2>different people, so they would have Tony Clifton on the

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<v Speaker 2>show thinking they booked Kaufman. However, there are some who

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<v Speaker 2>believe that sometimes they would book Tony Clifton and Bob's

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01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Muda would dress up as Tony Clifton, and the talk

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01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:53.719
<v Speaker 2>show would think they had booked Andy Kaufman, but they

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01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:58.800
<v Speaker 2>had actually booked Bob's Muda pretending to be Tony Clifton. Winkwig, nudge, nudge,

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean, say no more? Love it so great?

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<v Speaker 2>I love that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And and and Zach did one of these to Dave,

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01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:08.039
<v Speaker 1>and I want to like I'm I don't like destroying.

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01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't like revealing bits, right, you know I I don't.

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01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:12.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't ever want to do that.

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01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:14.960
<v Speaker 2>You know you?

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01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:17.679
<v Speaker 1>You you got me credentialed to go see a couple

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01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:21.480
<v Speaker 1>of a couple of comics at JFL outside of Dave

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01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:26.519
<v Speaker 1>red Richardson comes to mind. I want to I want

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01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:30.320
<v Speaker 1>to celebrate, like three of the bits that he did there.

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01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:31.920
<v Speaker 1>There was a nine to eleven bit, there was a

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01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:33.440
<v Speaker 1>canceling bit, and there was something else.

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01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:36.039
<v Speaker 3>I want to celebrate them and articulate them with people.

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01:03:36.400 --> 01:03:39.079
<v Speaker 1>But he is clearly working on them for another special,

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01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:41.360
<v Speaker 1>so I'm not going to go into how he made

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01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:43.280
<v Speaker 1>it clever and even.

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01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Innocent, even though he did this one.

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01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:48.119
<v Speaker 1>However, I believe is A is a one off, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I'm okay to talk about what Zach

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01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:51.639
<v Speaker 1>did on stage here because there's a little bit of

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01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:55.159
<v Speaker 1>a codea to it afterwards that I just adore. One

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01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:58.039
<v Speaker 1>of the things that famously about Dave out there is

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01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:01.679
<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't like to be surprised. Early on, they

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01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:08.079
<v Speaker 1>had to create in in Dave's run, they had to create, uh,

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01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:11.440
<v Speaker 1>they had to create a sort of a I don't know,

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01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:15.559
<v Speaker 1>a culture where instead of surprising Dave with something and

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01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and and and enjoying his wit, his off the cuff

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01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:22.159
<v Speaker 1>wit which is second to none, you let Dave in

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01:04:22.239 --> 01:04:24.719
<v Speaker 1>on it. But it's okay because he knows he'll react

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01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:26.719
<v Speaker 1>to it the way that he would have if he

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01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:29.119
<v Speaker 1>were surprised. He's he's got the ability to do that

1311
01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:36.800
<v Speaker 1>because he just gets irket being surprised. Well, I believe

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01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Zach did that to Dave on stage, and and and

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01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:41.639
<v Speaker 1>and I don't believe that he was ready for it.

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01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:45.280
<v Speaker 1>So they were going about having a lovely conversation about

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01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:47.840
<v Speaker 1>life and what they uh.

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01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:49.239
<v Speaker 3>You know, Zach was amazing.

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01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:50.960
<v Speaker 1>He at one point hands one hundred dollars bill to

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01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:52.679
<v Speaker 1>somebody in the audience and it's a real one because

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01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:54.280
<v Speaker 1>it's he handed to the guy right in front of me.

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01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:57.320
<v Speaker 3>You know. He he was messing with.

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01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:59.559
<v Speaker 1>The audience talking about how he married a Canadian girl.

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01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:02.320
<v Speaker 1>We all clapped, and then Zach's like looks at all

1323
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:04.360
<v Speaker 1>of us and he goes, yeah, but she's from Calgary.

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01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:06.599
<v Speaker 3>And the entire audience turned.

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01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:08.679
<v Speaker 1>On him for a second because the rivalry between the

1326
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Vancouver Canucks and the Calgary Flames, and it was just

1327
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:15.000
<v Speaker 1>like like playing with us, right. He called the leader

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01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:17.840
<v Speaker 1>of the of the Conservative Party here in Canada's aames

1329
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Pierre Paulia. He called them Pierre poutine. You know, just

1330
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:23.360
<v Speaker 1>did did a great job showing us.

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01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:23.639
<v Speaker 3>Who he was.

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01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:25.760
<v Speaker 1>They were going back and forth, and then they started

1333
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:27.480
<v Speaker 1>settling down and getting serious a little bit, and they

1334
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:30.400
<v Speaker 1>started talking about their personal lives and and and and

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01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:32.559
<v Speaker 1>it came out, does your wife like when you like,

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01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:35.000
<v Speaker 1>do you do bits in regular life, like with like,

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01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:37.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, servers at a restaurant or people or whatever.

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01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, does your wife like that? No,

1339
01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:42.079
<v Speaker 1>my wife thinks I'm very unfunny. Oh yeah, mine too.

1340
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Both of them going on about how they have these

1341
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:46.960
<v Speaker 1>goofy personalities and how their wives do not think that

1342
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:48.760
<v Speaker 1>they're funny. They do not like when they do bits,

1343
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:51.079
<v Speaker 1>And Zach starts telling a story about his mom, and

1344
01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:52.840
<v Speaker 1>he starts saying, growing up, it was like that in

1345
01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Dave's like Guests for Me as well, you know, you know,

1346
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:57.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of the round peg in a square hole kind

1347
01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.840
<v Speaker 1>of scenario. And Zach was talking about out how he

1348
01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:04.639
<v Speaker 1>would love to make his mom laugh, and she had

1349
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:08.360
<v Speaker 1>this guffaw, like it was an involuntary kind of a

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01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:10.440
<v Speaker 1>thing that would happen when he said the right thing

1351
01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:13.159
<v Speaker 1>in the right combination of things. But the problem is

1352
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:15.000
<v Speaker 1>is most of the time it would be inappropriate. And

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01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.960
<v Speaker 1>so Zach got this weird back and forth because he

1354
01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:21.440
<v Speaker 1>would get the guffaw, but then he would get in

1355
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:24.960
<v Speaker 1>trouble and it was just like okay, good, but then bad.

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01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:25.920
<v Speaker 3>And and that happened a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And he brought up a couple of stories about that,

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01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and then he told one and it was just so powerful,

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01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:35.159
<v Speaker 1>like he was talking about how he got the guffa

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01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:37.039
<v Speaker 1>and and he goes in this one here and I

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01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:38.199
<v Speaker 1>got the gaffa from my mom.

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01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:46.159
<v Speaker 3>And he stops and he goes h and and and and.

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01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Just I just need and Johnny, I swear to God,

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01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:55.360
<v Speaker 1>A tear is coming out of his eye, like I'm there,

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01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching it and it's happening, and I'm looking at Dave,

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01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:07.440
<v Speaker 1>and Dave's entire energy changed and shifted and became extremely uncomfortable,

1367
01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:12.000
<v Speaker 1>like extremely because Zach galifan Akis is crying on stage

1368
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:14.400
<v Speaker 1>right now, and Dave was unprepared. It was it was

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01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:17.400
<v Speaker 1>just a moment talking about comedy and suddenly and he

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01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:19.880
<v Speaker 1>like like literally I'm watching the tear fall down his face.

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01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:22.599
<v Speaker 1>And Dave, even though he's got the lapel mic on,

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01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:25.480
<v Speaker 1>he says very softly, oh is this this is this

1373
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:29.239
<v Speaker 1>is real? Like he's really really really softly, and zachly,

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01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:30.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry.

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01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.159
<v Speaker 3>I just I just lost my mom last month.

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01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:37.599
<v Speaker 1>And the entire audience just oh, like like the just

1377
01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:40.639
<v Speaker 1>all the breath went out of the room because it

1378
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:43.039
<v Speaker 1>was just sotal and then you're the empathy for him

1379
01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:46.119
<v Speaker 1>was just you could feel the empathy for him, and

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01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:47.519
<v Speaker 1>it was just and.

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01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Dave was like, oh, I and and he didn't know,

1382
01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:52.440
<v Speaker 3>you know.

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01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:54.360
<v Speaker 1>He talked about how he watched the entire run of

1384
01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Between Two Friends, and he watched The Hangover and he

1385
01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:59.519
<v Speaker 1>watched them these other things, and it was unprepared to

1386
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:03.360
<v Speaker 1>know that Zach just lost his mom. And then Zach

1387
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:06.039
<v Speaker 1>said a couple more things and it was like, and

1388
01:08:06.079 --> 01:08:08.199
<v Speaker 1>he goes, I was just kidding. I didn't really lose

1389
01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:13.960
<v Speaker 1>my mom last month. It was like what Dave included,

1390
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:17.960
<v Speaker 1>And then a few sentences later he said, oh no, no, no,

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01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:22.720
<v Speaker 1>really no, my mom really is dead. And we were

1392
01:08:22.760 --> 01:08:25.479
<v Speaker 1>all just not knowing what to do with that, and

1393
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Dave kept preferring he this is where I think it wasn't.

1394
01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:35.039
<v Speaker 1>That wasn't script. I'm ninety nine percent it wasn't script.

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01:08:35.079 --> 01:08:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Dave wasn't in on it because he kept coming back

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01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:39.159
<v Speaker 1>to it, and when he came back to it, he

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01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:40.920
<v Speaker 1>was doing it almost as grumpy Dave.

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01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:43.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's as good. It's every bit as good

1399
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:44.560
<v Speaker 3>as a dead mom bit.

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01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:45.680
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1401
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:48.079
<v Speaker 3>He would say say things, but he called it back

1402
01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:52.000
<v Speaker 3>maybe two or three times. So anyway, the code of

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01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:53.039
<v Speaker 3>that story is.

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01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Apparently after the show, David and his team went out

1405
01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:00.079
<v Speaker 1>for dinner, not with Zach, but David is to his

1406
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:02.560
<v Speaker 1>team went out for dinner, and for a good portion

1407
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:04.079
<v Speaker 1>of that dinner, they were trying to figure out if

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01:09:04.119 --> 01:09:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Zach Kalvinax's mom is dead or alive or not.

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01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:10.720
<v Speaker 3>And that, to me was just lovely.

1410
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:12.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not the first person to put that out there.

1411
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:14.439
<v Speaker 1>The Georgia Strait put it out there. I feel, okay,

1412
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.399
<v Speaker 1>The Georgia Straits like an indie Vancouver, an indie Vancouver

1413
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:21.520
<v Speaker 1>publication or newspaper, so they put it out there, so

1414
01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:24.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I'm wrecking anything by putting it

1415
01:09:24.039 --> 01:09:26.399
<v Speaker 1>out there. It was a phenomenal moment to be a

1416
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:29.239
<v Speaker 1>part of And if Zach actually got one over on Dave.

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01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Good for him.

1418
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.600
<v Speaker 1>And if he didn't, and Dave was in on it

1419
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:36.079
<v Speaker 1>like he was when Jerry Lawler slapped Andy Kaufman back

1420
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:37.800
<v Speaker 1>in the day on the show, Dave was in on that,

1421
01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:43.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, then even more power to Dave because he

1422
01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:45.800
<v Speaker 1>fooled everybody making us think that he didn't know about it.

1423
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:50.279
<v Speaker 1>So that encapsulates the show really at the end of

1424
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:52.239
<v Speaker 1>the day, without me destroying any of the other stuff

1425
01:09:52.239 --> 01:09:54.640
<v Speaker 1>that they they said, that was my favorite moment of

1426
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:58.199
<v Speaker 1>the show. It was just such a lovely experience. John,

1427
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't even I can't even tell you. It was

1428
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:02.439
<v Speaker 1>just such a such a lovely experience.

1429
01:10:03.079 --> 01:10:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you got to meet him and you

1430
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:10.239
<v Speaker 2>got to see a show which is great as well, and.

1431
01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:11.119
<v Speaker 3>A phenomenal show.

1432
01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Like there wasn't anybody who left there wishing that they

1433
01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:21.840
<v Speaker 1>they didn't come the Goodwill. It was just the energy

1434
01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:25.119
<v Speaker 1>afterwards as people were leaving. It was just it was

1435
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a lovely, lovely experience. And I just highly recommend it

1436
01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:30.159
<v Speaker 1>if you see him, If you see if you're able

1437
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:32.319
<v Speaker 1>to see Dave live.

1438
01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Go see him.

1439
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:36.279
<v Speaker 1>If you have any affection for him whatsoever. You will

1440
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:38.760
<v Speaker 1>regret not seeing him in years to come, you know,

1441
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:41.119
<v Speaker 1>when the inevitable that happens to all of us happens.

1442
01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:43.119
<v Speaker 1>If you have the opportunity to see him, go see him.

1443
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:45.600
<v Speaker 2>What did Shaeffer do at the show?

1444
01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:46.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1445
01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, yeah, so this is the way to finish the show.

1446
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:51.079
<v Speaker 1>And then I've got six minutes and then I've got

1447
01:10:51.079 --> 01:10:52.680
<v Speaker 1>a bolt. So this is a perfect way. Thank you

1448
01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:55.159
<v Speaker 1>very very much for saying that. Oh my gosh, leading

1449
01:10:55.640 --> 01:10:58.920
<v Speaker 1>leading everybody in O Canada at the beginning. But then

1450
01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:01.479
<v Speaker 1>at the end, after they finished all of the footage

1451
01:11:01.479 --> 01:11:02.960
<v Speaker 1>they had at Zach because I mean the big screen

1452
01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:04.920
<v Speaker 1>behind them, so they're showing clips in between two ferns.

1453
01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:06.840
<v Speaker 1>They're showing clips of the hangover. They're showing clips and

1454
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:09.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about some of these things. Dave says, I have

1455
01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:12.840
<v Speaker 1>a wonderful way to end the show, and he and

1456
01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:16.319
<v Speaker 1>he dedicates it to Zach. And Paul comes out and

1457
01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:19.439
<v Speaker 1>he starts playing on the piano and he plays it's

1458
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:28.199
<v Speaker 1>raining men. Zach is killing himself, laughing like like this

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01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:31.000
<v Speaker 1>is what like like it almost felt like it was

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01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:33.359
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a surprise to Zach as to how

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01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:34.960
<v Speaker 1>they were going to finish the show, and Paul sings

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01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:37.680
<v Speaker 1>It's raining men as soon as the show, and it's

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01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:39.960
<v Speaker 1>a very high energy song, and so we're all Paul

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01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:43.239
<v Speaker 1>of course a writer of that in the Canadian Songwriters

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01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:47.399
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame for that song alone, I believe, and

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01:11:47.520 --> 01:11:49.920
<v Speaker 1>so so so that's how they finished the show, which

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01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought was spectacular.

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01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:52.199
<v Speaker 3>It was.

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01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:55.920
<v Speaker 1>It was quirky, but at the same time high energy

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01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:59.159
<v Speaker 1>and fun, and people were singing along with it. And

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01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:00.960
<v Speaker 1>then they got up and they thanked everybody and they

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01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:01.760
<v Speaker 1>all kind of walked.

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01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:02.319
<v Speaker 3>Off stage and it was.

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01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:06.079
<v Speaker 2>That was lovely, awesome good grats.

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01:12:06.520 --> 01:12:07.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks man, it was.

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01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:07.960
<v Speaker 2>It was.

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01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:08.520
<v Speaker 3>It was fantastic.

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01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:11.039
<v Speaker 1>And I just got to say, I adore our friendship,

1479
01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:12.439
<v Speaker 1>I adore our our, our kinship.

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01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:14.359
<v Speaker 3>I love your show. I love this show so so

1481
01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:14.800
<v Speaker 3>so much.

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01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:18.800
<v Speaker 1>And I can't thank you enough for reaching out to

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01:12:18.840 --> 01:12:21.039
<v Speaker 1>them and having them kind of take a chance on

1484
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.039
<v Speaker 1>me to cover a couple of the other stand ups

1485
01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:27.840
<v Speaker 1>that were there. It was really really fun to do that,

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01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:29.640
<v Speaker 1>So Johnny, thank you so much for giving me that

1487
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:31.880
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to go out and do that as well. That

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01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:36.840
<v Speaker 1>was that was more trimmings on a beautiful beautiful, beautiful experience.

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01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:40.760
<v Speaker 1>No thanks for going, and I you know you're helping me.

1490
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:43.760
<v Speaker 1>And also I think it's good for the listeners to

1491
01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.720
<v Speaker 1>hear you reacting to something I say all the time

1492
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:49.000
<v Speaker 1>that when you go see a festival, go see the

1493
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:52.239
<v Speaker 1>smaller shows and that's where the magic is. And you

1494
01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:54.159
<v Speaker 1>were in small rooms and you clearly enjoyed it. So

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01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:55.960
<v Speaker 1>that made me happy to see that you weren't like

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01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:57.920
<v Speaker 1>what did he sent me to? And you saw the

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01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:01.600
<v Speaker 1>magic of comedy festivals, yes, sir. And the difference, you know,

1498
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:03.840
<v Speaker 1>seeing when you're in a small room for an open

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01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:06.199
<v Speaker 1>mic and you're seeing people kind of stumble their way forward.

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01:13:06.199 --> 01:13:08.359
<v Speaker 1>That's one thing when you're in a small room for

1501
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:11.640
<v Speaker 1>some people to see people who are not open micers.

1502
01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:14.840
<v Speaker 1>They've clearly established who they are, their voice, their personality,

1503
01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:17.199
<v Speaker 1>their character, if you want to look at it that way,

1504
01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:21.119
<v Speaker 1>and then you see them played to a small room.

1505
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:23.960
<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing as watching your favorite season band.

1506
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:25.680
<v Speaker 1>You watch Pearl Jam play to a room of four

1507
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:29.920
<v Speaker 1>hundred people, that's a very special thing. Seeing Red Richardson,

1508
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:31.680
<v Speaker 1>for example, he sold the room out, but it was

1509
01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:36.119
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and thirty people. As a sellout phenomenal and

1510
01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:40.960
<v Speaker 1>intimate and beautiful. And Catherine Blandford, same room but only

1511
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.600
<v Speaker 1>thirty two seats sold, and her playing with that the

1512
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:45.439
<v Speaker 1>way that she did, because she isn't just an open

1513
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:48.479
<v Speaker 1>micer that's oh it's another room of thirty two people. No,

1514
01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:52.039
<v Speaker 1>she is sharp as attack and she gets a chance

1515
01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:54.239
<v Speaker 1>to go play a small room and boy did she

1516
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:54.880
<v Speaker 1>have fun with it.

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01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:57.079
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, those were both two very very good shows.

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01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm telling my listeners Catherine Blandford learned that name.

1519
01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:02.479
<v Speaker 2>That's definitely somebody to keep it. I haven't seen Red,

1520
01:14:02.520 --> 01:14:04.880
<v Speaker 2>so I'll take your word for it, but Catherine I've seen,

1521
01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:06.560
<v Speaker 2>and that's somebody to keep an eye on. All right,

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01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:08.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go shovel and you probably have a job

1523
01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:11.159
<v Speaker 2>or something, so I'll let you go and we'll talk

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01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:11.560
<v Speaker 2>some more.

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01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:14.039
<v Speaker 3>Thanks man, I appreciate you.

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01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:16.000
<v Speaker 1>You're just I love your friendship, I love your show,

1527
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and thank you for being you buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Back at you, all right, talk to you soon.