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<v Speaker 1>And now an exclusive interview with David Bassey for Dodger Talker.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Tim, we are joined by one of my

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<v Speaker 1>all time favorite Italian Americans, Tommy Lesorda. Used to say

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<v Speaker 1>I like him because I'm Italian, not because he's Italian.

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<v Speaker 1>And with my mom being born in Trieste, Italy, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we have a strong connection to any great Italian Americans

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<v Speaker 1>who have built this country, no doubt about it. He

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<v Speaker 1>is fifth all time in wins as a manager. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you believe there's only one person on this earth that

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<v Speaker 1>can say he had two thousand hits as a player

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<v Speaker 1>and at least two thousand wins as a manager. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a batting champion, he's a two time Manager of the Year,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a nine time All Star, and more importantly, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a champion, a four time World Series champion with the Yankees.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is former Dodger manager Joe Tory. Joe, great

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<v Speaker 1>to have you, and man, it is awesome to have

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<v Speaker 1>you back in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, David, it's great coming back. You know you

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<v Speaker 2>you come to Los Angeles and I know when I left,

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<v Speaker 2>when I left the Yankees and had the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>come out here, you don't know really what to expect.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. The first thing that comes to your mind

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<v Speaker 2>is that when I was a player, you couldn't escape.

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<v Speaker 2>It was always drysdown in Kofax. So it was a

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<v Speaker 2>little frightening to come out here at that time. The

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I did learn when I came out here

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<v Speaker 2>is the passion the fans have. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>know the Lakers are huge and uh, but the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 2>really have a following that that was was so reassuring

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe. I saw you from across Camelback Ranch this spring.

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<v Speaker 1>You obviously were patrolling those fields when you were managing

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers. Were you taken aback by the popularity of

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers even in spring training?

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I was fortunate enough David to come on

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<v Speaker 2>board in two thousand and eight when they were still

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<v Speaker 2>in Bureau, and I got a little taste of the history.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. You walk in in through that clubhouse and

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<v Speaker 2>you see all the photos from the Dodger teams that

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<v Speaker 2>I used to hate because I was a Giants fan,

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<v Speaker 2>But you always respected, you know, because they were always there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, they said wait till next year, Wait till

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<v Speaker 2>next year. And they finally won a World Series in

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five. But they were always right there on the precipice.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, whether you liked them or you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like him, they were always there and you had to

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<v Speaker 2>respect that fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe. Before we get back into baseball, I definitely want

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<v Speaker 1>to shine a light on the reason why you are

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<v Speaker 1>back in Los Angeles. It's your annual Joe Tory Safe

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<v Speaker 1>at Home Gala, which is coming up this Thursday. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is a special one because the proceeds to fit

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<v Speaker 1>Safe at Homes Margaret's place, and with the fires that

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<v Speaker 1>have displaced not only families but students, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these proceeds are going to to help build a safe

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<v Speaker 1>safe at Home at the Series building on Third Street

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<v Speaker 1>Promenade for all those Pally High kids and the kids

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<v Speaker 1>that are affected from K through twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was so devastating. I mean, we my wife

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<v Speaker 2>Ali and I came through La actually right at the

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<v Speaker 2>at the start of the fires. We were on our

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<v Speaker 2>way to Hawaii, and it just was devastating. It was

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<v Speaker 2>so frightening. And then to see the result, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course last time I was here, we went

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<v Speaker 2>out to Pally Hide. You know, just hang out with

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<v Speaker 2>the with the baseball team. And Billy Crystal was nice

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<v Speaker 2>enough to come out and join me, and we had

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<v Speaker 2>a little, you know, a little chat with the baseball team,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because it's devastating all of a sudden, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a young man, you're going to school, you're playing

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<v Speaker 2>on the baseball team, and all of a sudden your

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<v Speaker 2>school is gone. It's you know, it's frightening. But the

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<v Speaker 2>one thing about it, and we tried, Billy and I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to did stress to the team. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that really reunites you and unites you, I should say,

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<v Speaker 2>unite you together and you rely on each other because

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<v Speaker 2>it's tough going through life by yourself. And then, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the team concept really really was magnified at

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<v Speaker 2>this point in time. But it was so devastating what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in LA And I'm just pleased now that we,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we were able to do some good and

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<v Speaker 2>go out and talk to the kids at tally and

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, I'm gonna, you know, head over there tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>to spend some time. But it was it was great

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<v Speaker 2>that they were able to you know, have a Margaret's

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<v Speaker 2>place Margaret's Place obviously is named after my mom and

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<v Speaker 2>be there for the kids because that's our future, David,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, and you know, we're we're pleased to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, and I'm very touched that you know that

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<v Speaker 2>it's been received so well in the in the LA area.

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<v Speaker 2>We have we have more Margaret's Places in schools here

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<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles than we do in New York. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's where that's where we originally got started.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really special. Eighteen Margaret's Places in the area of

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<v Speaker 1>southern California, Los Angeles. And to support this great cause

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Tory started in honor of his mother, go

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<v Speaker 1>to Joetorry dot org and Joe, like you said, as adults,

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<v Speaker 1>we always have to worry about how we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>support the family when disasters like this happened in Alta

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<v Speaker 1>Dina and the Palisades. But through your own experience, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>the kids are the ones that we forget, and those

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones that have a lot of trauma that

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<v Speaker 1>they need a place like Margaret's Place to go to.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, I grew up with that and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how we originally came to start our Safe at

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<v Speaker 2>Home Foundation. My dad was abusive to my mom. I

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<v Speaker 2>never was physically abused, but you know, I learned as

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<v Speaker 2>a grown up. You know, first off, I was a

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<v Speaker 2>very shy kid. I didn't even go out, didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>go out for the high school baseball team as a

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<v Speaker 2>freshman because I didn't think I was good enough. So

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<v Speaker 2>I come to learn out later on that, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad, the fear that he brought to the home,

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<v Speaker 2>our home every day, took a on me. Even though

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't physically abused. The emotional scars that they that

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<v Speaker 2>never go away, and once I was able to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>feel I needed to talk about it, it was something

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<v Speaker 2>I kept inside. And having a Margaret's Place gives these

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<v Speaker 2>youngsters a chance to realize they're not alone and they're

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<v Speaker 2>not the only ones that are going through this, So that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if I think back, and you know, had

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<v Speaker 2>some place to go or share it with anybody, because

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<v Speaker 2>I never did share it with any of my friends

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<v Speaker 2>growing up. And I just felt very blessed that I

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<v Speaker 2>had the ability to play baseball because it gave me

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<v Speaker 2>a place to hide.

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<v Speaker 1>Jill, like you said, you didn't have a Margaret's Place,

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't have a Joe Tory that would set up

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen in Los Angeles or New York. Where did you

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<v Speaker 1>turn the corner in your life? Where did you find

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<v Speaker 1>that inner strength?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, as interesting. I was just I was

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<v Speaker 2>with the Cardinals and I was fired in June of

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five and my wife, Ali was pregnant with our daughter, Andrea,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were living in Cincinnati at the time because

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<v Speaker 2>when I was fired in Saint Louis, my Ali is

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<v Speaker 2>from Cincinnati and she has plenty of family there. So

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<v Speaker 2>I knew if I was going to go look for

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<v Speaker 2>a job that she was going to be surrounded by family.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't leave her, you know, by herself. So we

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<v Speaker 2>moved to Cincinnati and then it was like late November.

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<v Speaker 2>There was like a seminar that was going on at

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<v Speaker 2>a holiday inn symposium type thing, and Ali says to me,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to go with me? Well, she's eight months pregnant.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not about to say no to anything she asked

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<v Speaker 2>me to do. And we went to this holiday end

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<v Speaker 2>and it turned out to be like a self help

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<v Speaker 2>type of situation, a four day affair, and what it

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<v Speaker 2>amounted to is if like if you wanted to quit smoking,

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<v Speaker 2>or or some you know self help area where you

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<v Speaker 2>you needed some help doing those things. That's what it

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<v Speaker 2>was there for. As soon as you walk in the

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<v Speaker 2>front door, they separated Ally and I and they put

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<v Speaker 2>us in a group of six or eight people. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think it was day two or three

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<v Speaker 2>that there was a speaker. And I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what he said. The only thing I could tell you

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<v Speaker 2>is that he struck a nerve with me. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I was born with this nervousness and and and

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<v Speaker 2>the low self esteem, and just from what this speaker

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about was letting me know that what my

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<v Speaker 2>caused it. And it just freed me up to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Even though to this day it's still emotional

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<v Speaker 2>for me, but at least I know it was something

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<v Speaker 2>that happened to me, you know, during my lifetime, as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to being born this way, and it was something

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<v Speaker 2>I was embarrassed to talk about before. But once I

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<v Speaker 2>realized what the cause was, I wanted to share it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I remember the first school that we

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<v Speaker 2>went to, you know, when we were just starting safe

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<v Speaker 2>at home in New York, and I was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>a classroom of young people, and I said, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>to We'll talk baseball in a minute, because there was

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<v Speaker 2>a camera crew that it followed us to do some

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<v Speaker 2>b roll for our dinner, our first dinner, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll talk about baseball in a minute. I said, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to let you know what this camera

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<v Speaker 2>crew is doing here. And I started talking about my

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<v Speaker 2>dad was doing my mom and I looked out there

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<v Speaker 2>and there was probably six or eight kids shaking their

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<v Speaker 2>head yes. In other words, they know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>So I knew we struck a nerve at that point

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<v Speaker 2>in time. And it was my wife who really had

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<v Speaker 2>the idea to do, you know, start a foundation and

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<v Speaker 2>do it through education, because if we're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>our part to try to end the cycle of domestic violence,

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<v Speaker 2>I think education is the way you have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>go about it, because young people, if their only role

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<v Speaker 2>model is an abusive parent, you'll let them know that

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the right way to go about your life.

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<v Speaker 2>So we realized that we struck a nerve. We touch

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of kids, and we have twenty five thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand kids that we're able to reach every year and

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<v Speaker 2>It's been really really great feeling for me because we

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<v Speaker 2>know what we do works.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's really powerful, Joe, and I'm sure many of

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<v Speaker 1>us would be surprised how many people we interact with

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<v Speaker 1>that have been either physically or emotionally abused at home

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid. And it's beautiful that Joe Torre and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife Ali have started this safe at home program

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<v Speaker 1>and you can support them at joetory dot org. They

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<v Speaker 1>have eighteen Margaret places here in Los Angeles and they

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to help those that were displaced, those kids

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<v Speaker 1>that were displaced by the fires in Altadena and the

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Palisades. Toy is our guest, and Joe, since you're

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<v Speaker 1>with us, I got to ask you. There's been so

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<v Speaker 1>much hype around the Dodgers, and there's been so much

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<v Speaker 1>talk about trying to do something that only your Yankees

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<v Speaker 1>repeat as champions. What does it take to repeat as

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a great question, David. You know, even

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<v Speaker 2>the Red Sox, when you know, when we had that

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<v Speaker 2>when they was you know, finally did win a World Series,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they won another World Series in another World Series,

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<v Speaker 2>but they had trouble repeating. I think, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's just social media, but that's a

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<v Speaker 2>big part of it. You know, you set your goals

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<v Speaker 2>and you know when you finally, you know, achieve winning

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<v Speaker 2>a World Series. I can't say you celebrate it all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, but you know, if you if you say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you reach the top of the mountain and

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<v Speaker 2>you sort of exhale, it's so important to realize that

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<v Speaker 2>you have to validate that and you still have to

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<v Speaker 2>go and start all over again the next spring and

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<v Speaker 2>realize that, you know, you have to prove that what

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<v Speaker 2>you did last year was not a fluke. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was that was my mentality my first meeting, believe it

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<v Speaker 2>or not, David with the Yankees, which I was very

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<v Speaker 2>nervous to give because I knew how important it was

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<v Speaker 2>if I was going to go into that situation, especially

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<v Speaker 2>to a ball club that had gone to the playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>the year before. H and I had I had said

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<v Speaker 2>and that I don't want to win one World Series,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to win three in a row. And I

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<v Speaker 2>said that based on the based on the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I've watched all sports. I've watched you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden disappear the next year, and I just had

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<v Speaker 2>a sense that, you know, we're not finished working at it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think once you stop to admire what you've accomplished,

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<v Speaker 2>you stop doing it. And I had a good group

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<v Speaker 2>obviously that just never got tired of winning and just

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<v Speaker 2>felt an obligation to go out there and and try

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<v Speaker 1>Being around these Dodgers, it doesn't seem like there's complacency, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is a long regular season to even get

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<v Speaker 1>to October. How did you treat the one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, he goes and you know, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>the great manager, Dave Roberts, who you know, he always

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<v Speaker 2>has that half full attitude, the glass half full. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you you really have to find a way to get

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<v Speaker 2>things done. You can't dwell on things you don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have to, you know, accentuate the things you

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<v Speaker 2>do have. My first year, we lost David Cohne, early

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<v Speaker 2>in the year he had an aneurysm, and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>Don Zimmer saying to me, you know, if we lose Cone,

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<v Speaker 2>we're you know, we're in big trouble. But you have

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<v Speaker 2>to find a way to move on. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>just that that that's the nature of the Beasts. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you work for six seven weeks in spring training, you

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<v Speaker 2>get get ready for the season, and you owe it

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<v Speaker 2>to yourself, You owe it to your team, and you

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<v Speaker 2>owe it to the fans to go out there and

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<v Speaker 2>find a way to get it done. And Dave Roberts

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<v Speaker 2>is that guy in my mind, even though I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>four but I got over that. Finally got all that, by.

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<v Speaker 1>The way, and how many years later, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Still have wake. You know, I still wake in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the night sometimes, but I maybe it'll roll over.

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<v Speaker 2>So but it's it's it's not easy to do. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, once you get to the top of the mountain,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's shooting at you. And they they always put on

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers and they're the world champs. So it's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>just something that you know, you you've got to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have a strong backbone and uh and understand, nobody's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>feel sorry for you, so you better get out there

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<v Speaker 2>and work hards.

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<v Speaker 1>Great wisdom from experience from one of the great men

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<v Speaker 1>to ever put on the uniform as a player or

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<v Speaker 1>a manager, and that is the one and only Joe Tory. Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for the time and man, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you again for doing what you're doing in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>The Safe at Home Gala is on Thursday. If you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to attend or donate to a great cause that

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<v Speaker 1>is helping so many kids out there, go to Joetory

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. Joe, hope to see you out the ballpark

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<v Speaker 1>soon and don't be a stranger.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll see me there to night, David. I'm coming out

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<v Speaker 2>to watch a ballgame and I'm looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's great, Joe, I can't wait to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your time anytime. Take care,