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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right podcast.

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We're pretty excited today because we have Andy Mant from

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bond Charge with us and that is one of our

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favorite favorite sponsors totally. We have been happily using red

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light therapy products from bond Charge and now we're going

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to get all the scientific scoop about why it's so effective.

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But first we want to know like the full backstory

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on bond Charge and why the company was started and

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all of that.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely well, first of all, thank you so much for

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having me on. I really appreciate it, and thank you

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for being such avid fans of the brand as well.

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It's been an absolute joy working with you both over

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the last year.

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Speaker 4: It's been fantastic.

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Speaker 2: So I guess in terms of our story, we started

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eight years ago and it was started because my wife

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and I were getting ready for our wedding and we

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were having problems sleeping. We got our diet right, but

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we're having problems sleeping. So we invented a pair of

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blue light blocking glasses that helped people sleep, and that's

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how the company began. You just wear them two hours

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before bed blocks blue Lil tells your body it's nighttime,

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more melotonin, more sleep. But then we as the company evolved,

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we found that there were different frequencies of light that

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actually did different things to our body, and one of

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those was red light therapy. So we invented a lot

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of different devices that can help things from treating arthritis

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to boosting collagen to helping people heal faster, all all

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from Australia, which is where the company was originally from.

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So that was, in a nutshell, our background story and

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why we're here today.

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Speaker 3: So okay, so blue light and red light, can you

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kind of explain the difference between the two and then

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what they're good for?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So blue light people would have heard from you

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two places. You get it from natural light. So in

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the day, the sky is blue, right, So that's really

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important for our hormones because it helps increase our serotonin,

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it helps increase our dopamine. It keeps our hormones regulated

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throughout the day, so it keeps us feeling alert and awake.

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But blue light is now in artificial so it's in

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our smartphones, it's in our laptops, TVs, even in our

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fridge light and overhead lighting in our houses, and our

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brain can't distinguish the difference between daylight and artificial light.

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So when we put our TV on and our smartphone

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and our house lights on after the sunset, when historically

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blue light wasn't present, our body still thinks it's daytime.

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So it really damages our sleep, so we don't produce

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as much melotonin, and we produce too much cortisole, which

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keeps us stress and wired all the time. So this

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is a big problem. This is why blue light glasses

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come into play. You wear them a couple of hours

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before bed, and you get this amazing sleep, this amazing

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melotonin release. Red light, on the other hand, is a

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very restorative frequency of light. So if we think back ancestrally,

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after a long day in the hunt outside, our ancestors

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would have come back the sunsets darkness, they would have

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sat around a campfire which was red and orange light.

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And this doesn't impact melotonin negatively, It actually heals and

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stores so it keeps us in this parasympathetic state, makes

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us feel relaxed and rejuvenated, and allows us to sleep better.

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But it was also discovered actually by NASA first of all,

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about thirty years ago that if you harness certain frequencies

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of red light and you put them, say in a

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face mask or in a big red light panel, it

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actually interacts with ourselves and helps them heal faster. So

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it does things like if you've got a sore muscle,

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it helps heal that if you shine the light on it.

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If you are showing signs of aging like wrinkles, fine

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lines and you shine red light on it, it actually

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helps reduce the appearance of those. If you have joint

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pain like arthritis and things like that, you shine the

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red light on it in the therapeutic benefits in therapeutic

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doses and it helps to heal that area as well.

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So it's starting to become this red light, this amazingly

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studied frequency of therapeutic light, and it's been so important

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that the FDA have even classified it as proven to

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help with joint and muscle pain as well and boosting collogy.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's seriously good stuff.

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Speaker 3: So there's time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I see advertisements for all kinds of different companies.

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Speaker 4: That have red light therapy.

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Speaker 1: But so explain to our audience, because we talk about

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bond charge all the time, So explain to our audience

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how your red light therapy or blue light Therapy for

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that matter. Those products are different than what they might

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see with other companies.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and this is the thing when something is proven

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and you get a lot of people opportunists that jump

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on the bandmack and going I can make some quick

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money out of that. I can market get a product

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from China and just just sell it online like anyone

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can do that. We take things a little bit more

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seriously at Bond Charge. We're about helping humanity. We want

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people to have the best optimal products. Like I'm a biohacker,

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which is someone that optimizes my biology one hundred percent.

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I don't want to do it ninety ninercent. I want

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to do it one hundred percent, and I want to

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then give those products to the world. We've actually have

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and we are the only red light therapy brand that

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has a scientific Advisory Board. So we have six PhDs

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across London, Denmark and the US that sit on our

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board and they put the input into our products. So

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we don't launch any product unless they've had a scientific

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saying it. They're independent, impartial, and they will say you

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can't say this, you can't say that. If you want

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to say this, you have to put this in it.

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This irradiance isn't high enough and all that technical specification stuff,

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so that's super important. We wanted to be science backed

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and proven. We have two PhDs in our product development

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team in Sydney, so they're staff that work with us

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and they go through all the studies and make sure

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that our masks are doing exactly what they say, because

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the FDA set parameters right of saying you need you

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know your red light face mask can help with collagen

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and fine lines and wrinkles, but it needs to meet

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certain specifications for it to be FDA cleared, So we

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make sure that those are in there exactly as the

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FDA would prescribe. So we make sure that it's in

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line with the regulatory bodies and the science. Now the

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other thing as well is we're not about inventing brand

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new products. We kind of like one of my heroes

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is James Dyson, and he he made like the vacuum

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cleaner much better, he made handryers much better. We're about optimization.

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So these products will be all over the place, but

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we take them and go, why are they only ninety

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percent optimal, eighty percent optimal whatever it may be, And

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how do we make them one hundred percent?

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Speaker 4: So let me give you an example with our.

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Speaker 2: Red light face mask. We had a dermatologist involved in

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the creation of that where we actually had her look

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at the face and where the major signs of aging appear,

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and we positioned our LEDs exactly in line with those

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problem areas. We also have the most LEDs present in

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our masks. So if you think about it, if you're

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trying to get a facial treatment to reduce signs of

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aging and you're missing half the face, you know you're

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going to have a sort of half a young face,

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half an older.

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Speaker 4: Face, which is it is no good.

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Speaker 2: And we also independently test all our masks for something

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called electromagnetic radiation, So things like Bluetooth five g T

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electric these are all bad for us at a cellular level,

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and a lot of companies don't look at that. They

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just kind of go, whatever, let's let's just do we

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won't even test it. So we independently test to make

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sure that there's no harmful radiation coming out of these

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our masks which could damage the cells, because otherwise you're

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going to be getting red light therapy getting lively healed cells.

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So those are the big scientific parameters that we put

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into place with our red light therapy devices.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. So I okay, so I've seen like far

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infrared near infrared. I don't what is all that? What

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Speaker 4: I know, it's such a good question.

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Speaker 2: So it comes up so often, and unfortunately this is

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going back to the last question, right, So many, so

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many companies out there that don't really know what they're

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talking about. They just see this product trending and just

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think they can market it. But there's a very distinct

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difference between red light, near infrared light and far infraread.

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So two of them make up what you call red

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light therapy, and that's visible red light, so you can

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see it. It's the color red and near in thread light,

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which is an invisible frequency. Now there what you find

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in the face mask. Now, what they do is red

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light penetrates at a skin level and it activates more

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energy in the skin, which allows the cells to do

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what they're supposed to. So the cells in your skin

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are supposed to produce collagen, so you activate fibroblast, you

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produce more collagen. Red light does that at the therapeutic level. Now,

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near in thread light penetrates deeper into the muscles and

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the joints, and near infrared light then allows the cells

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in the muscles and joints to repair and restore, so

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storm aching muscles and joint pain. Now far infrared light

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isn't red light therapy, but it does have benefits. So

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an infrared sauna.

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Speaker 4: So you go into a stauner.

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Speaker 2: There's no coals, it's just light that penetrates the body

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and it heats the body from using light.

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Speaker 4: Rather than coals.

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Speaker 2: And what this does is this helps detoxification, lymphatic drainage.

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rate variability, which is your body's ability to deal with stress,

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which is fantastic. So that isn't found in a red

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light face mask or in red light panels. That's found

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in a in fred sauna. So all three red, near

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and thread and firing thread all have very different impacts

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on the body, albeit very positively.

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Speaker 3: That is so informative. God, it was super helpful.

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Speaker 1: But then there's also pulsed electromagnetic field therapy. Like, there's

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so many there's so many things to try to keep straight.

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So what's that one all about?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's really cool. So this is where red light.

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Not many people have heard about it, and it's in

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the biohacking space and we're starting to see it grow massively,

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hundreds of percent every year in the last three years.

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This is this technology is growing again. It's rooted with NASA.

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So what PEMF is so pulse electromagnetic field therapy is

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it takes energy, natural frequencies of energy, and it pulses

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them into the body. So the earth has its own

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rotation magnetic field, which helps reduce inflammation. So when you

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walk bare foot on the ground, that passes through the

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body and it reduces information. There's been sort of like

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EMG scans that show the brain lighting up barefoot versus

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Speaker 1: That's the whole grounding thing.

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Speaker 2: Correct, exactly, that exactly that. Now, this what this does

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is it pulses those frequencies into the body, and our

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cells in the body are always looking to conserve energy,

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so they mimic what's around you. So let me give

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you an example on the juxtaposition of this. If you

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go into a busy supermarket loads of screaming children running around,

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you start to feel stressed. That's because energy is being

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mimicked externally in your cells, and the same works. If

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you go and say into a spa and you start

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listening to spa music, you start to feel calm and relaxed.

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It's because we're all energy. We're like you know, the

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table's energy, your hat's energy, our body's energy. Everything is energy,

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and PEMF takes natural energy and it puls it into

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the body for various things. So, for instance, if you

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want to sleep better, your brain starts to produce delta waves,

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whereas you can dial into that by using PEMF, so

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your brain mimics them quicker, so you get deeper sleep

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and fall asleep faster. You can start to if you

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want to be more focused, you can start to put

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more alpha waves into the body, so the stale start

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to mimic those, and you start to become more productive

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and more into flow state if you want to do

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a big, deep piece of work. So this is where

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pmf's coming in, and it's also been shown to help

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with joint recovery. So if someone has a joint fracture,

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studies have shown that thirteen to thirty hertz of PEMF

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actually starts to heal bones quicker. And the way that

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been shown to heal bones faster by restoring the communication

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pathway between the two fractures. So yeah, it's a super

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new technology, but there's been so many studies that are

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because I just broke a wrist, you know, back in December, right,

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this is the thing, but this is the kind of stuff.

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medicine and this because that would have I would have

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the studies, but then it takes a while to filter through.

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Speaker 1: Well. Andy, we so appreciate learning about all this because

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