Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right podcast.
We're pretty excited today because we have Andy Mant from
bond Charge with us and that is one of our
favorite favorite sponsors totally. We have been happily using red
light therapy products from bond Charge and now we're going
to get all the scientific scoop about why it's so effective.
But first we want to know like the full backstory
on bond Charge and why the company was started and
all of that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, first of all, thank you so much for
having me on. I really appreciate it, and thank you
for being such avid fans of the brand as well.
It's been an absolute joy working with you both over
the last year.
Speaker 4: It's been fantastic.
Speaker 2: So I guess in terms of our story, we started
eight years ago and it was started because my wife
and I were getting ready for our wedding and we
were having problems sleeping. We got our diet right, but
we're having problems sleeping. So we invented a pair of
blue light blocking glasses that helped people sleep, and that's
how the company began. You just wear them two hours
before bed blocks blue Lil tells your body it's nighttime,
more melotonin, more sleep. But then we as the company evolved,
we found that there were different frequencies of light that
actually did different things to our body, and one of
those was red light therapy. So we invented a lot
of different devices that can help things from treating arthritis
to boosting collagen to helping people heal faster, all all
from Australia, which is where the company was originally from.
So that was, in a nutshell, our background story and
why we're here today.
Speaker 3: So okay, so blue light and red light, can you
kind of explain the difference between the two and then
what they're good for?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So blue light people would have heard from you
two places. You get it from natural light. So in
the day, the sky is blue, right, So that's really
important for our hormones because it helps increase our serotonin,
it helps increase our dopamine. It keeps our hormones regulated
throughout the day, so it keeps us feeling alert and awake.
But blue light is now in artificial so it's in
our smartphones, it's in our laptops, TVs, even in our
fridge light and overhead lighting in our houses, and our
brain can't distinguish the difference between daylight and artificial light.
So when we put our TV on and our smartphone
and our house lights on after the sunset, when historically
blue light wasn't present, our body still thinks it's daytime.
So it really damages our sleep, so we don't produce
as much melotonin, and we produce too much cortisole, which
keeps us stress and wired all the time. So this
is a big problem. This is why blue light glasses
come into play. You wear them a couple of hours
before bed, and you get this amazing sleep, this amazing
melotonin release. Red light, on the other hand, is a
very restorative frequency of light. So if we think back ancestrally,
after a long day in the hunt outside, our ancestors
would have come back the sunsets darkness, they would have
sat around a campfire which was red and orange light.
And this doesn't impact melotonin negatively, It actually heals and
stores so it keeps us in this parasympathetic state, makes
us feel relaxed and rejuvenated, and allows us to sleep better.
But it was also discovered actually by NASA first of all,
about thirty years ago that if you harness certain frequencies
of red light and you put them, say in a
face mask or in a big red light panel, it
actually interacts with ourselves and helps them heal faster. So
it does things like if you've got a sore muscle,
it helps heal that if you shine the light on it.
If you are showing signs of aging like wrinkles, fine
lines and you shine red light on it, it actually
helps reduce the appearance of those. If you have joint
pain like arthritis and things like that, you shine the
red light on it in the therapeutic benefits in therapeutic
doses and it helps to heal that area as well.
So it's starting to become this red light, this amazingly
studied frequency of therapeutic light, and it's been so important
that the FDA have even classified it as proven to
help with joint and muscle pain as well and boosting collogy.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's seriously good stuff.
Speaker 3: So there's time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I see advertisements for all kinds of different companies.
Speaker 4: That have red light therapy.
Speaker 1: But so explain to our audience, because we talk about
bond charge all the time, So explain to our audience
how your red light therapy or blue light Therapy for
that matter. Those products are different than what they might
see with other companies.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and this is the thing when something is proven
and you get a lot of people opportunists that jump
on the bandmack and going I can make some quick
money out of that. I can market get a product
from China and just just sell it online like anyone
can do that. We take things a little bit more
seriously at Bond Charge. We're about helping humanity. We want
people to have the best optimal products. Like I'm a biohacker,
which is someone that optimizes my biology one hundred percent.
I don't want to do it ninety ninercent. I want
to do it one hundred percent, and I want to
then give those products to the world. We've actually have
and we are the only red light therapy brand that
has a scientific Advisory Board. So we have six PhDs
across London, Denmark and the US that sit on our
board and they put the input into our products. So
we don't launch any product unless they've had a scientific
saying it. They're independent, impartial, and they will say you
can't say this, you can't say that. If you want
to say this, you have to put this in it.
This irradiance isn't high enough and all that technical specification stuff,
so that's super important. We wanted to be science backed
and proven. We have two PhDs in our product development
team in Sydney, so they're staff that work with us
and they go through all the studies and make sure
that our masks are doing exactly what they say, because
the FDA set parameters right of saying you need you
know your red light face mask can help with collagen
and fine lines and wrinkles, but it needs to meet
certain specifications for it to be FDA cleared, So we
make sure that those are in there exactly as the
FDA would prescribe. So we make sure that it's in
line with the regulatory bodies and the science. Now the
other thing as well is we're not about inventing brand
new products. We kind of like one of my heroes
is James Dyson, and he he made like the vacuum
cleaner much better, he made handryers much better. We're about optimization.
So these products will be all over the place, but
we take them and go, why are they only ninety
percent optimal, eighty percent optimal whatever it may be, And
how do we make them one hundred percent?
Speaker 4: So let me give you an example with our.
Speaker 2: Red light face mask. We had a dermatologist involved in
the creation of that where we actually had her look
at the face and where the major signs of aging appear,
and we positioned our LEDs exactly in line with those
problem areas. We also have the most LEDs present in
our masks. So if you think about it, if you're
trying to get a facial treatment to reduce signs of
aging and you're missing half the face, you know you're
going to have a sort of half a young face,
half an older.
Speaker 4: Face, which is it is no good.
Speaker 2: And we also independently test all our masks for something
called electromagnetic radiation, So things like Bluetooth five g T
electric these are all bad for us at a cellular level,
and a lot of companies don't look at that. They
just kind of go, whatever, let's let's just do we
won't even test it. So we independently test to make
sure that there's no harmful radiation coming out of these
our masks which could damage the cells, because otherwise you're
going to be getting red light therapy getting lively healed cells.
But then damaging them with dirty electricity and electromagnetic radiation.
So those are the big scientific parameters that we put
into place with our red light therapy devices.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. So I okay, so I've seen like far
infrared near infrared. I don't what is all that? What
does that mean?
Speaker 4: I know, it's such a good question.
Speaker 2: So it comes up so often, and unfortunately this is
going back to the last question, right, So many, so
many companies out there that don't really know what they're
talking about. They just see this product trending and just
think they can market it. But there's a very distinct
difference between red light, near infrared light and far infraread.
So two of them make up what you call red
light therapy, and that's visible red light, so you can
see it. It's the color red and near in thread light,
which is an invisible frequency. Now there what you find
in the face mask. Now, what they do is red
light penetrates at a skin level and it activates more
energy in the skin, which allows the cells to do
what they're supposed to. So the cells in your skin
are supposed to produce collagen, so you activate fibroblast, you
produce more collagen. Red light does that at the therapeutic level. Now,
near in thread light penetrates deeper into the muscles and
the joints, and near infrared light then allows the cells
in the muscles and joints to repair and restore, so
storm aching muscles and joint pain. Now far infrared light
isn't red light therapy, but it does have benefits. So
I'm sure you guys and your audience would have used
an infrared sauna.
Speaker 4: So you go into a stauner.
Speaker 2: There's no coals, it's just light that penetrates the body
and it heats the body from using light.
Speaker 4: Rather than coals.
Speaker 2: And what this does is this helps detoxification, lymphatic drainage.
It helps you burn more calories and improve your heart
rate variability, which is your body's ability to deal with stress,
which is fantastic. So that isn't found in a red
light face mask or in red light panels. That's found
in a in fred sauna. So all three red, near
and thread and firing thread all have very different impacts
on the body, albeit very positively.
Speaker 3: That is so informative. God, it was super helpful.
Speaker 1: But then there's also pulsed electromagnetic field therapy. Like, there's
so many there's so many things to try to keep straight.
So what's that one all about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's really cool. So this is where red light.
This product is where red light was maybe five years ago.
Not many people have heard about it, and it's in
the biohacking space and we're starting to see it grow massively,
hundreds of percent every year in the last three years.
This is this technology is growing again. It's rooted with NASA.
So what PEMF is so pulse electromagnetic field therapy is
it takes energy, natural frequencies of energy, and it pulses
them into the body. So the earth has its own
rotation magnetic field, which helps reduce inflammation. So when you
walk bare foot on the ground, that passes through the
body and it reduces information. There's been sort of like
EMG scans that show the brain lighting up barefoot versus
wearing shoes.
Speaker 1: That's the whole grounding thing.
Speaker 2: Correct, exactly, that exactly that. Now, this what this does
is it pulses those frequencies into the body, and our
cells in the body are always looking to conserve energy,
so they mimic what's around you. So let me give
you an example on the juxtaposition of this. If you
go into a busy supermarket loads of screaming children running around,
you start to feel stressed. That's because energy is being
mimicked externally in your cells, and the same works. If
you go and say into a spa and you start
listening to spa music, you start to feel calm and relaxed.
It's because we're all energy. We're like you know, the
table's energy, your hat's energy, our body's energy. Everything is energy,
and PEMF takes natural energy and it puls it into
the body for various things. So, for instance, if you
want to sleep better, your brain starts to produce delta waves,
whereas you can dial into that by using PEMF, so
your brain mimics them quicker, so you get deeper sleep
and fall asleep faster. You can start to if you
want to be more focused, you can start to put
more alpha waves into the body, so the stale start
to mimic those, and you start to become more productive
and more into flow state if you want to do
a big, deep piece of work. So this is where
pmf's coming in, and it's also been shown to help
with joint recovery. So if someone has a joint fracture,
studies have shown that thirteen to thirty hertz of PEMF
actually starts to heal bones quicker. And the way that
works is that when a bone breaks, the electromagnetic field
between the two temporarily weakens, so for them to heal,
the EMF has to basically be talking more strongly. So
pulsing electric magnetic field therapy into that area has actually
been shown to heal bones faster by restoring the communication
pathway between the two fractures. So yeah, it's a super
new technology, but there's been so many studies that are
showing how amazing it's It's been an against.
Speaker 3: I wish more conventional doctors and you know, like orthopedic guys,
because I just broke a wrist, you know, back in December, right,
this is the thing, but this is the kind of stuff.
I wish there was more of a marriage between conventional
medicine and this because that would have I would have
benefited greatly from that, you know, that would have been amazing.
I know, just because my face is like I use
it from my face, I use it from my body,
but I mean like using it just for that therapeutic benefit.
It's just I wish there would be more of a
marriage between the two. I think it's just fantastic because
that's wonderful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I completely agree with that.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, the mainstream sort of medical establishment takes a little
bit of a while to catch up with things.
Speaker 3: So yes, it does.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what biohacking is very good.
Speaker 2: We do all the human experiments ourselves and look at
the studies, but then it takes a while to filter through.
But I think, you know, it's it's it's great at
the moment for America having RFK in the position.
Speaker 4: Yes, totally. You know, he's a great guy.
Speaker 2: He's you know, we followed him and spoken to him
for the last sort of eight years on what he
knows about health and well.
Speaker 3: And I'm sure he uses all of this stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he absolutely does, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Well. Andy, we so appreciate learning about all this because
these are the kinds of questions that you know, don't
often come up just when we're talking about your products
in general. We're always just kind of owing and eyeing
about results, but not understanding.
Speaker 4: Like how we get there.
Speaker 1: So thank you for all of that.
Speaker 3: Where can people.
Speaker 1: Learn more about you and about bond Charge.
Speaker 4: Well, definitely your podcast, so that's a good place.
Speaker 2: But if they want to come and learn a little
bit more, boncharge dot com is the best place. So
we have some, as we said, scientific advisors. They're involved
in our content writing as well, so everything is back
by science, So come and take a read on there.
We we have our Instagram bond Charge underscorch and check
out some good content on there. But we have a
lot of people talking about our products as well, so
you know, people that are listening to your show, maybe
listening to the likes of Dan bon Bongino and Jpc's
another good one, the satirical comedian. Those guys have used
our products for five six years and rave about them
on their shows as well, So you know there's some
there's some great, great people out there talking about this
stuff as well. But yeah, I think that's probably the
best places to hear from us and understand a little
bit more about what we're trying to do.
Speaker 3: Bond charge dot com, Correct dot com, thank thank you
so much.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it awesome, Thank you guys.
Speaker 4: I really appreciate your time and thank you for having
me on