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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being with me at the Intersection tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I bumped into a friend of mine today about an

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<v Speaker 1>hour ago as I was finishing dinner with my family

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<v Speaker 1>who is very, very concerned about her right to vote

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<v Speaker 1>and the Democrats and midterms. And it's a person that

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<v Speaker 1>I use as a bellweather because she has very good

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<v Speaker 1>instincts and if she's worried, I know that the messaging

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<v Speaker 1>around voter protection, election elections and databases is not where

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<v Speaker 1>it should be, that Democrats not leading the charge strongly enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think it's so perfectly exquisitely timed

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<v Speaker 1>to have Mark Elias join me in about a half

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<v Speaker 1>an hour to give some more confidence to our audience

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<v Speaker 1>that if working together, or we knit ourselves together, we

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<v Speaker 1>protest together, we campaign together, we register to vote together,

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<v Speaker 1>and we vote together, we will overcome all of the

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<v Speaker 1>attempts to steal an election when all those things fall

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<v Speaker 1>into place. So thank you to Sharon. I'm glad I

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<v Speaker 1>bumped into you for many reasons, but what it did

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<v Speaker 1>motivate me for tonight. I have so many things I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about that I've curated for you here

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<v Speaker 1>at the Intersection. Thanks for being such fervent supporters. The

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<v Speaker 1>generosity of your time, your spirit, and sometimes your money

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<v Speaker 1>is greatly appreciated. For independent journalists can only exist. You

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<v Speaker 1>are the oxygen that we breathe. We can't exist without you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me kick it off with something. It's all linked

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<v Speaker 1>to voting and Donald Trump's assault unvoting, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>the Iranian War, where Donald Trump blithefully tells the America people, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry, the midterms won't impact my Iranian strategy that

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<v Speaker 1>presupposes there is an Iranian strategy. Trump got very angry

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<v Speaker 1>today at a reporter, obviously a female reporter, when she

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<v Speaker 1>said to him, mister president, what's the plan. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>a plan? And that he had to put upon is

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<v Speaker 1>there something you don't know, something I don't know? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there a plan? I mean, she asked a very good question.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one degree separated from somebody that knows somebody this

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<v Speaker 1>close to President Trump and is part of his inner circle.

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<v Speaker 1>And that person said, to that inner circled person, so

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<v Speaker 1>what's the plan. And the person who's this close to

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump said there is no plan. There's no plan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Tuesday, that's the plan. And that was somebody I

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<v Speaker 1>can't reveal who it is right now. But when when

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<v Speaker 1>I finally am able to completely consistent with this reporter.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we have that clip, but completely consistent

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<v Speaker 1>with that reporter's quitequestioning and Donald Trump acting so put

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<v Speaker 1>upon about being asked a fundamental question about his stewardship

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<v Speaker 1>of this folly of a war that's already taken the

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<v Speaker 1>live of almost twenty service people, probably more more than

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and fifty wounded, probably more and more to come.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're running out of missiles. That's not the reporting

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. We're literally running out of munitions because

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't prepared to go to war with Iran, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the way that Donald Trump is navigating it. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have a clip of Trump today in

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<v Speaker 1>the Oval Office talking about the war.

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<v Speaker 2>There are no signs that Iran is ready to stop fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is the plan?

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<v Speaker 2>Is the plan to just keep bombing until that you're out?

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<v Speaker 2>You know something that I don't know. You don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the dialogue is behind the scenes, that they want

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<v Speaker 2>to meet the control and ended because they're getting decimated.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get that when you listen to your state station,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 3>You know something that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know something I don't know. I will tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that they want to get forty and until they're ready

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<v Speaker 2>to meet in a meaningful way, we have no interest

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<v Speaker 2>when even.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So there's that clip, right, So you know

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<v Speaker 1>she has a very good follow up question. So tell

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<v Speaker 1>us this is what you know, reporters. Scrums are supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be about to educate the American people. Remember when

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<v Speaker 1>in Wars passed and I asked that you. Ben and

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<v Speaker 1>I were preparing for the show last Saturday and we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about the war, and I said, well, where

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<v Speaker 1>is Donald Trump's Norman schwartzkof Where is his Colin Powell?

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<v Speaker 1>Where is his general strategist briefing the American people on

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<v Speaker 1>a daily basis about the war that's being conducted. There

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<v Speaker 1>is one, because there is no plan. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>genius military strategist that's in charge. This is it, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know, I'm showing you the magic trick.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it. It's Pete hagg Seth, a lieutenant general

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<v Speaker 1>who was elevated to general kin And that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And a whole bunch of other leaders who got tossed

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<v Speaker 1>on their ass by Pete Hegseth because he was challenged. See,

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<v Speaker 1>in my career, I've always wanted smart and smarter people

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<v Speaker 1>than me around me. At continues, Oh no, not Pete Hegseth, No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're your criteria for being to having a career under

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Hegseth is that you are dumber than him. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're watching the war play out, And does anybody really

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<v Speaker 1>believe Donald Trump that Iran is calling him back channel

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<v Speaker 1>and begging for the war to stop. That is that even?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that even a thing? I don't think so. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we have the confirmation nine to eight see elections

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<v Speaker 1>matter of the new Director of National Intelligence, Jake Clayton. Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>come on down, Jay, tell us a little bit about yourself. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to play golf with the President. I did

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<v Speaker 1>that very well. Okay. I was the Securities and Securities

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<v Speaker 1>in Exchange Commission chief for the first term. That was

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<v Speaker 1>my dream job. Okay. And what is your background. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a corporate transactional lawyer. That's what I did my

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot. I did deals. Great. Are you leaving out

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<v Speaker 1>anything about your national intelligence experience as spymaster, perhaps worked

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<v Speaker 1>in the FBI, the CIA, the Director of National Intelligence before. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any of that. I am a tremendous loyalist

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<v Speaker 1>to Donald Trump, and I have on occasion, including during

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<v Speaker 1>my confirmation hearing denied the election results. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>new Director of National Intelligence, to which seventeen different intelligence agency, civilian,

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<v Speaker 1>and military now report. And if you think he's an

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<v Speaker 1>upgrade from Tulci Gabbert, only it's only because Tulci gab

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<v Speaker 1>Gabbart for years was rumored to be a Russian asset

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<v Speaker 1>who was a puppet of Putin and read his talking

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<v Speaker 1>points like like she was a talking head on one

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<v Speaker 1>of those news shows on Russian television. So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>he's better than that. But if you thought, well, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a breath of fresh air to have somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>to which the CIA reports and advising Donald Trump, well

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<v Speaker 1>think again, because he got tripped up by one question

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<v Speaker 1>that he should have saw coming a mile away, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>are you an election denier or not? That's what we

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<v Speaker 1>need to know before we make you the Director of

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<v Speaker 1>National Intelligence, especially after Tulci Gabbert was caught wearing her

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<v Speaker 1>baseball cap lurking around places like Fulton County, Georgia and

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico, trying to take and grab voting machines, saying

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<v Speaker 1>it was her job as the Director of National Intelligency.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is using the national intelligence community that he now controls,

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<v Speaker 1>the and the FBI and the Department of Justice now

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<v Speaker 1>led by him, and a whole band of mary election

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<v Speaker 1>deniers that all reside inside and outside the White House. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Cleta Mitchell write the name. Now we'll talk about it more.

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<v Speaker 1>When Mark Elias joins us, a lawyer, election lawyer at

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<v Speaker 1>some point created something called the Election Integrity Network the

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<v Speaker 1>ei N, putting chapters in every state. And wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 1>know it, there is an election integrity department inside the

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<v Speaker 1>White House led by an election denier, Kurt Olsen. So

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<v Speaker 1>many of the things that we're watching is this two

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<v Speaker 1>step play between Kurt Olsen and then the Director of

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<v Speaker 1>National Intelligence, Tulci Gabbert. And that led to the seizure

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<v Speaker 1>of equipment in Puerto Rico and in Georgia. And now

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<v Speaker 1>you've got Jake Clayton. Jake Clayton at one time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd been like a prosecutor back in the day you

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<v Speaker 1>know he had some some ethics. Go oh god, watch

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<v Speaker 1>a senator as off of Georgia. Just ask a simple

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<v Speaker 1>question and see the response for our what could likely

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<v Speaker 1>be on the nine to eight vote voting amount of

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<v Speaker 1>committee today our next director of National Intelligence? Play the clip?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, who won the twenty twenty election?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I'm not going to do this with you.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a job interview. We've established that you have

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<v Speaker 4>an obligation to pretty honest and forthright with the committee. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>you do have an obligation to be honest and forthright

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<v Speaker 4>with the committee. Yes, who won the twenty twenty election?

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<v Speaker 5>Like I said, I'm not going to get into that.

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<v Speaker 4>With you, but you do have an obligation to be

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<v Speaker 4>honest and forthright with the committee. Is anything that I

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<v Speaker 4>just said non honest or forthright? Yes, you're not being

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<v Speaker 4>honest or forthright. Who won the ask the question? We

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<v Speaker 4>can keep doing this, Well, we're going to keep doing

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<v Speaker 4>it because you're not being honest and forth right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to engage in the theater.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a simple question, mister Clayton, And I've asked who

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<v Speaker 4>won the twenty twenty presidential election? I've answered it you're

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<v Speaker 4>here asking for the support of senators to lead America's

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<v Speaker 4>intelligence community. We've established that you have an obligation to

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<v Speaker 4>be honest and forthright with this committee and with the

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<v Speaker 4>American public. But you refuse to answer a simple matter

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<v Speaker 4>of fact about the twenty twenty election.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's not right.

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<v Speaker 4>Then answer the question who won twenty twenty election? Answer it?

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<v Speaker 4>What is your answer?

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<v Speaker 1>I've given you my answer.

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<v Speaker 4>What is your answer? You refuse to answer a basic

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<v Speaker 4>question about who won a presidential election, but you asked

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<v Speaker 4>to lead America's intelligence community. Isn't it humiliating to be

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<v Speaker 4>un able to answer this question? To have to indulge

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<v Speaker 4>the president's delusions? We know you know everybody in this

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<v Speaker 4>room knows the truthful answer to that question. Why can

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<v Speaker 4>you not give it?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I gave you the answer. Are you aware

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<v Speaker 1>that Director gap right, I gave you the answer. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not answering the question. I'll kill my job, opportunity, my

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<v Speaker 1>job I'm trying out for with my main client, Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not giving you the answer. I love Senator Osa

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<v Speaker 1>for so many reasons. By the way, he's up for

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<v Speaker 1>election at the midterms, and a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>programming note. His colleague, Reverend Senator Warnock, is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be joining me tomorrow on Legal af for an exclusive

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<v Speaker 1>interview to talk about voting, voter protection, the United States

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court, and his ideas of what the Democrats should

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<v Speaker 1>do if they get all three branches of government. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a must see YouTube interview, podcast interview. And he's also

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<v Speaker 1>going to be working hard to get his friend and

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<v Speaker 1>colleague center asoff Re elected. And I think we just

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<v Speaker 1>saw the reason why we need him in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a close vote, but it was nine

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans and eight Democrats. Are those that caucus with us

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<v Speaker 1>that confirmed that guy to be the Director of National Intelligence?

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<v Speaker 1>Now a puppet, a tool of Donald Trump to be

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<v Speaker 1>used in his attack on voting, No doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's already used him as an attack on free press.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what his parting gift was. You can, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, we're live live when Mark Elias joins too.

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<v Speaker 1>Put your questions in comments tonight and our staff will

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<v Speaker 1>as I can. You know what Jay Clayton is parting

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<v Speaker 1>gift to Donald Trump was when he was the acting

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<v Speaker 1>Southern well the Southern District of New York Manhattan federal prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 1>They have photos it's not classified, of the tail and

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when he gets to say, and I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>like the helicopters leaving Hanoi in Vietnam, or Nixon flying

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<v Speaker 1>off after his disgraceful resignation to fly away, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to anyway in that Kutari plane. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that was Jay Clayton's parting gift. Right now, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>motion to quash pending by the New York Dimes. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to the New York Dimes doing some tremendous reporting

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<v Speaker 1>lately under fierce. They're taking heavy artillery from the Presidency

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<v Speaker 1>and from the Department of Justice. Heavy Maggie Abram and

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<v Speaker 1>or transcripts about Epstein files and everything else. And now

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<v Speaker 1>those and quashed for now those subpoenas until he can

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<v Speaker 1>want to turn to the Block Blanche movement, which is

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<v Speaker 1>j Clayton, but the Block Blanche movement is really important.

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<v Speaker 1>And who's leading the charge, who's out in front with

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<v Speaker 1>the pitchforks and the torches. The Epstein survivors. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>they are. Who has the moral authority encourage more than

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<v Speaker 1>of voting for Todd Blanche who no one. They're the

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<v Speaker 1>living embody of the scandal of the of the of

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<v Speaker 1>the child sex trafficking cover up and the cover up

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<v Speaker 1>of the cover up by Todd Blanche and his Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice and Donald Trump to protect his client because

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<v Speaker 1>of his relationships with the leaders of that child who

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<v Speaker 1>and more. Of course it's not gonna be the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the living embodiment of that the JAN sixers. No, So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to have and their willingness. This twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>or so Epstein survivors out of fourteen hundred, like people

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<v Speaker 1>like Danny Benski, who I'm gonna have the honor of interviewing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this week, I think this week is my

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<v Speaker 1>I was not surprised that they picked Danny Benski to

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<v Speaker 1>was forced into it or it was choreographed with Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Tillis was forced to meet with the Epstein survivors and

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<v Speaker 1>like a schoolboy dragged to the principal's office where a

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<v Speaker 1>person walking around with a stone in his shoe. He

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<v Speaker 1>let it be known immediately he didn't want to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was degrading and insulting and pecked and patronizing,

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<v Speaker 1>patronizing to the Epstein survivors. That didn't help. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>if you wonder what I'm talking about, rather than me

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<v Speaker 1>survivors talking about their meeting with Todd Blinch.

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<v Speaker 6>It wasn't substantive, It was not productive. It very much

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<v Speaker 6>felt like we were just taking the box off of

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<v Speaker 6>meeting feeling the way that we feel right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 6>Demoralizing, to say the very least.

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<v Speaker 7>His attempt at empathy and compassion. Really came off as

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<v Speaker 7>patronizing and condescending. It was very clear he was taking

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I couldn't put it any better than that. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I have Danny Benski on for our audience, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to her about that. Todd Blanche filed answers to

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and forty one pages of questions by the

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<v Speaker 1>members of the Senate Judiciary Committee. I got my hands

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<v Speaker 1>on them. I'm making my way through them now. Two

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<v Speaker 1>things that popped out already. One, at least he answered

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<v Speaker 1>the question of who won the twenty twenty election. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>he answered it with the patty answer that the MAGA give,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Joe Biden was certified by Congress and the

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<v Speaker 1>Electoral College as the person who won. I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden. Spare us, Spare us the robotic programming. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that you've been given. You know, it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>Manchurian candidate, So makeup. That was one. And secondly, he

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<v Speaker 1>admits he admits, in a response to a question from

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<v Speaker 1>Cornan that he is not independent. He will not be

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<v Speaker 1>an independent from the president attorney general. He thinks that's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad thing. He thinks he's just a regular cabinet

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<v Speaker 1>member that's not independent, and that Donald Trump controls well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm lead, he said it out loud. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>other things in there that I think are really really interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>including his responses to Tom tell Us. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>he's not all the votes wrapped up. The vote is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the end of this month, in about

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<v Speaker 1>eight or nine days. They'll first fill the seat vacated

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<v Speaker 1>by Lindsay Graham's death on the Judiciary Committee, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to vote with that committee twelve twelve to ten.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be twelve Republicans, ten Democrats. But Cornyn has said today,

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<v Speaker 1>with the answers. And the answers he's talking about is

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<v Speaker 1>not just the ones in those little ten minute clips

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been playing. It's the four hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 1>one pages. So if I can show you what that

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<v Speaker 1>looks like. This is part of the four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty one pages I have organized, and these are all

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<v Speaker 1>single space questions that he needed to answer. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's a lot of I reject the premise of

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<v Speaker 1>your question. He's able to answer it. He's about as

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<v Speaker 1>straight as a quarkscrew. Todd Blanche, he answers a few

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sea above. It's an active investigation. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>grand jury process. I follow the law. The Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Justice always follows the law. I'm like, really, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what we've been watching for the last five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty days plus. So Cornyon still on the fence.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Tillis, I don't think that's what he had in

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<v Speaker 1>survivors or I'm not going to vote for you. Pissing

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<v Speaker 1>them off and crapping on them and victimizing the victims

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<v Speaker 1>was not quite I think what Tom Tillis had in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if they voted for for a Blanche and

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<v Speaker 1>take back their vote under public pressure. That's where we

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<v Speaker 1>come in, uh and vote against him on the Senate floor.

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<v Speaker 1>That could happen. It's happened in the past, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody that I've spoken to and all of the

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<v Speaker 1>and make a pest of yourself, you know, go to

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<v Speaker 1>office in your area. Okay, go to the town halls

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<v Speaker 1>email phone the senators tell them to block the We're

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<v Speaker 1>to show people when I'm talking about. So that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on Thursday. It's under the live tab right

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<v Speaker 1>now for legal a f set your reminders. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>do something to block Todd Blanch from being confirmed. The

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<v Speaker 1>other person is working hard to get Todd Blanche exposed

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<v Speaker 1>and blocked is our friend and colleague, Katie Fang. Katie

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<v Speaker 1>Fang's lawsuit is far from over. In fact, some of

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday in a what's the legal ternam, I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 1>piece of shit two page filing by Stan Woodward. Remember him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's now the number two in the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>under Todd Blanch. But he used to be Walton Aude's

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<v Speaker 1>of Justice now and they parachute him in all the

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<v Speaker 1>an international child sex trafficking ring. Didn't do it, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even mention it in their two pages. That took them

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<v Speaker 1>seven days to write with typos. Again, I'm not making

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<v Speaker 1>this up. It's up on legal app substack. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got foreign language documents, the handwritten FBI notes for four

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<v Speaker 1>different interviews a woman who claims that when she was

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen she was sexually abused by Donald Trump. Yeah, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to see those. That's part of the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 1>The redaction log. How about that? Howbout two hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>pages catalog about why you block them out and so

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<v Speaker 1>we understand it, and so we can challenge it on

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<v Speaker 1>a log. Nope, don't even mention the failure to do

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<v Speaker 1>the log. And so all they said of the judge is, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Fang's hyperbolic, and we're not. I'm not making this up.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the extent of it. When they're not attacking

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<v Speaker 1>the judge outside the courtroom, they do that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Noise Headline Chasing Judge Emmitt Sullivan headline. Has anybody ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard of Emmitt Sullivan before we started covering him on

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<v Speaker 1>Legal Headline Chasing. I don't think so. And I had

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<v Speaker 1>the great pleasure of interviewing Katie Fang, who's away from

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<v Speaker 1>the country but working her butt off on a bustman's holiday, working, working,

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<v Speaker 1>work and working, and I interviewed her. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be going up tomorrow at nine p thirty Eastern Time

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<v Speaker 1>on Legal aff YouTube channel. Here's a clip.

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<v Speaker 6>Judge Sullivan ordered him to do so in the preliminary injunction.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that is really important to show that

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<v Speaker 6>Todd Blanche knows he's up shit creek. He just wants

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<v Speaker 6>to try to gaslight the court and the world into

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<v Speaker 6>thinking that they're actually wearing a real white hat of

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<v Speaker 6>Justice when in reality, what are they hiding?

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<v Speaker 8>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>What are they hiding? That is a very good question.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you don't work over time the way that

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Blanche is working in the Department of Justice. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have something to hide, if you're completely blameless

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<v Speaker 1>and there's nothing in those files that are of any

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<v Speaker 1>great concern that we haven't already known, you'd release them.

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<v Speaker 1>That is how Donald Trump could have gotten the Monkey

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<v Speaker 1>office back, right, this is the pink elephant in the

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<v Speaker 1>corner or whatever. But he never could do it because

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<v Speaker 1>he knows there's things in there, as he's confided according

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<v Speaker 1>to reporting in other people. He knows there are things

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<v Speaker 1>in there that are bad for him and bad for others.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why they keep playing this ridiculous game of

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<v Speaker 1>hide and seek. But thankfully Katie Fang and her lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>Brendan Blue's been on with me as well. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the last piece of paper, This two pager that they

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<v Speaker 1>filed took him seven days. I can't wait till Mark Elias,

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<v Speaker 1>who's about to join us after the break. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to talk to Mark about this two page filing

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<v Speaker 1>by page and a half filing by Stan Woodward it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna piss off EMMITTT. Sullivan. Judge Sullivan, I'm gonna I

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<v Speaker 1>could just see him about to bellow, how dare you

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<v Speaker 1>come into my court room with this this thing that

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<v Speaker 1>Katie and I joked that if this was handed into

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<v Speaker 1>us by a junior associate or a mid level associate

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<v Speaker 1>in our law firms, we might have fired them like this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a reply brief to Katie Fang's paper. And

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<v Speaker 1>any day now tomorrow, early next week, Sullivan, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is going to lower the boom on Todd. Blanche of

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<v Speaker 1>course would be around to report on it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>as we were coming on the air, Alan Dershowitz always

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<v Speaker 1>finds a way to make himself both the center of

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<v Speaker 1>the story and take the hump position. He famously was

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein's lawyer when he wasn't a Harvard law whatever. Epstein's lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>According to reporting, like Julie K. Brown, he was busy

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<v Speaker 1>abusing survivors and victims and trying to and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>attack them and claim that they were sexual harlots. I

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<v Speaker 1>just saw him recently say exactly this, So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why people think he's gonna come after me, like

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<v Speaker 1>CNN He literally said that these were women, girls who

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<v Speaker 1>knew what they were doing, and I don't know got

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<v Speaker 1>what they deserved. I mean he almost said it. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's ridiculous. So when Dershowitz and now is not

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous maga trumper, he was. You know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to appear before the Oversight Committee hearing with James Comer,

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't, and it pissed off Comber. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>Comber has said he's got a subpoena Dershowitz. Dershowitz came

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<v Speaker 1>up with some fake, fake story about his lawyers told

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<v Speaker 1>him he shouldn't appear. Well, now you're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a subpoena because now that the Epstein survivors have been

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<v Speaker 1>all over the Senate and all over the House, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be able to get away with Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't make it, especially where when he's he's everywhere else,

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<v Speaker 1>He's everywhere else. There's some talk show nobody's watching in

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<v Speaker 1>New York on radio. He appeared there. But he can't

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<v Speaker 1>appear to the House Oversight Committee to do justice for

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein survivors. Of course he can't. He's already attacked

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<v Speaker 1>them as being the as asking for it. Effectively, he's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>Comber's got to get Dershowitz under oath and subpoena as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as possible. The next segment after, you know, after

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<v Speaker 1>our quick break, is going to be all about voting,

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<v Speaker 1>which is where I started tonight's podcast. Voter cases that

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<v Speaker 1>are out there, the election integrity database error riddled as

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<v Speaker 1>it is, this olive garden scenario that they're running in

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<v Speaker 1>red states, like olive garden polices. It's all you can

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<v Speaker 1>eat past the bar more than Democratic states, Blue states

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<v Speaker 1>police voting. I'm like, I don't know what the heck

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<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about, but we'll talk about that. And

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<v Speaker 1>the revelation today in New Jersey came out with it

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<v Speaker 1>to their credit that there were a number of people

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<v Speaker 1>who were registered to vote that shouldn't have been and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like three thousand or four thousand people out

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<v Speaker 1>of millions and four hundred or so that voted. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's been caught, they're going to be prosecuted, they're gonna there.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't outcome determinative, it's it's within you know, point

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<v Speaker 1>one percent or whatever. But of course now Trump's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is why I need the databases. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Mark Elias about all of that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at the end of the show, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Peter Navarro getting suffering a step back today.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think I have any I went

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<v Speaker 1>to this year's reunion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I got I got nothing for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you know you got a lot for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust me. Our audience has been waiting with baited breath

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<v Speaker 1>for your arrival. So we were together a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. Some new new developments I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about every.

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<v Speaker 5>Day, every every day, every hour, every day's new new development.

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<v Speaker 1>My my, my people were talking to your people, like

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think Mark, Mark and Michael are going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about? Like, I don't know what time is it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, anything is new. The two things that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start with are the Election Integrity database and

636
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.719
<v Speaker 1>this whole Election Integrity Network thing that was the fevered

637
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:56.199
<v Speaker 1>imagination of people like Cleta Mitchell and other election deniers.

638
00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Kurt Olsen now embedded deeply within the White House leading

639
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<v Speaker 1>it there, Cleita and her people outside along with others.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a broad, broad cabal that's out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I read this thing about we'll get to

642
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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey in a minute. But I read this thing

643
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<v Speaker 1>about the Olive Garden that they're making proguess primarily to

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<v Speaker 1>Red states. I don't know Blue states go to Olive

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<v Speaker 1>Garden too. About voter protection. Why don't you pick up

646
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>with that, and then we'll talk about how you're anticipating

647
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:29.079
<v Speaker 1>they're going to use the New Jersey revelation about some

648
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<v Speaker 1>people ended up who are not citizens on the voter

649
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:34.199
<v Speaker 1>rolls and maybe even voted. How they're going to use

650
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:35.320
<v Speaker 1>that against you in your cases.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So this Olive Garden thing, you know, I have

652
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<v Speaker 5>to say I didn't see coming. Yeah, I've been to

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00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:47.199
<v Speaker 5>Olive Garden. I've never had to show ID to eat

654
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Speaker 5>it Olive Garden. But the right wing has sort of

655
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<v Speaker 5>seized on the idea that I guess Olive Garden is

656
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<v Speaker 5>selling some kind of you know, all you can Eat pass,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, when you buy the All you Can

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<v Speaker 5>Need pass, they want to make sure that you are

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<v Speaker 5>the one eating off of the All you Can Need pass.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess so maybe they ask righty. It's very unclear

661
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<v Speaker 5>what exactly the origin of this is, but you know

662
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<v Speaker 5>what this fundamentally speaks to is Donald Trump and the

663
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<v Speaker 5>Republican Party's strategy for twenty twenty six, which is they're

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<v Speaker 5>not going to inspire voters, they're not going to persuade voters,

665
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<v Speaker 5>and they're not really going to turn out their voters.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, politics is, as I recently wrote for

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<v Speaker 5>Democracy Docket, like elections are a game of inches, and

668
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<v Speaker 5>their way of gaining inches is not to increase, like

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<v Speaker 5>I said, Donald Truk's popularity, but rather to decrease the

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<v Speaker 5>number of Democrats who are able to vote. And so

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<v Speaker 5>they found a number of clever ways to try to

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<v Speaker 5>target Democratic voters disproportionately to Republicans. So it targets all voters,

673
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:59.480
<v Speaker 5>but it harms Democratic voters more than Republican voters to

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<v Speaker 5>disenfrance them. One of them is this this combination of

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00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.559
<v Speaker 5>proof of citizenship, which you know, you're Donald Trump talk

676
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<v Speaker 5>all the time about with a very strict, unforgiving type

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<v Speaker 5>of voter ID. And you know, again I wrote about

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<v Speaker 5>this for Democracy Docket. I did actually a video, a

679
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<v Speaker 5>YouTube video about this you can check out. And the

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<v Speaker 5>point I try to unpack is that when Republicans say, look,

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<v Speaker 5>photo ID is common, photo ID is is popular, they

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<v Speaker 5>don't really connect it up with what it is they

683
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<v Speaker 5>are proposing. So, you know, Clidamtchal you mentioned, she and

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<v Speaker 5>her organization put out a model set of laws, and

685
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<v Speaker 5>you know, to their credit, they are actually pretty straightforward.

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<v Speaker 5>They want to prove citizenship every time you vote via

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<v Speaker 5>photo ID, Well, here is my message to you. Unless

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<v Speaker 5>you live in one of five states that bord Canada,

689
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<v Speaker 5>your state doesn't issue a driver's license that can prove citizenship.

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<v Speaker 5>Real ID does not prove citizenship. In fact, there's a

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<v Speaker 5>clip on the Internet of Mark Wayne Mullen saying real

692
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<v Speaker 5>ID does not prove citizenship. And that's because real ID

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<v Speaker 5>just means you're essentially able to travel on airplanes and

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<v Speaker 5>have been sufficiently vetted. But non citizens can get real

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<v Speaker 5>ID driver's licenses. So when you hear Republicans say that

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<v Speaker 5>they want photo ID, what they are saying is they

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<v Speaker 5>want to make it nearly impossible for people to vote

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<v Speaker 5>using even a driver's license. And certainly when you then

699
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<v Speaker 5>get to married women who changed their last name, though

700
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<v Speaker 5>they are armed more, when you talk about who has passports,

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<v Speaker 5>it disproportionately negatively impacts black voters versus white voters. And

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<v Speaker 5>all of this that I'm describing is just an effort

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<v Speaker 5>by Republicans to chop off the margin of Democrats relative

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<v Speaker 5>to Republicans.

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<v Speaker 3>It has nothing to do with ID, it.

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<v Speaker 5>Has nothing to do with eating unlimited Italian food olive garden.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just straight out voter expression.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, and they I mean, I'm sure they would

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<v Speaker 1>have loved to use cracker barrel if they could have

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<v Speaker 1>figured out something that cracker barrel was doing with IDs.

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<v Speaker 1>But but no, that we have a thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about this that I know you do in

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00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:29.199
<v Speaker 1>different ways to our audiences. We have voter protection, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, I mean voter ID protection. It's called under

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<v Speaker 1>penalty of perjury and prosecutions. And those that want to

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00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 1>commit that crime are allowed to commit the crime, and

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00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:43.599
<v Speaker 1>then prosecutors if they're not caught before by many layers

718
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 1>of you know, including showing up, you know, and actually voting,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they still are able to vote, there's plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of prosecutions that happen after an election. The big thing

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<v Speaker 1>is that none of this fraud, whether it's four hundred

722
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<v Speaker 1>four thousand, even four hundred thousand, is outcome determinative fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about a point oh one or point oh one,

724
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<v Speaker 1>depending upon what we're talking about level of fraud. So

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<v Speaker 1>we already have a sufficient a panacea or or cure

726
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<v Speaker 1>for this particular illness. What you what you don't do

727
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<v Speaker 1>is you don't build a nuclear bomb because you have

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<v Speaker 1>a fly in your house. Yeah, and destroy the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. A couple of things.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, more often than not, when we talk about,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, voter ballots being rejected or people being turned

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<v Speaker 5>away from the polls, we are almost never talking about fraud.

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<v Speaker 5>Like we are by and large talking about people who

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<v Speaker 5>are eligible voters, they are entitled to vote, who for

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<v Speaker 5>one reason or another, are not able to jump through

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<v Speaker 5>a sufficient number of hoops in order to vote. So,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, when we talk about someone who, for example,

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<v Speaker 5>casts a mail in ballot and that ballot is rejected

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<v Speaker 5>ninety nine point nine nine percent of the time, that

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<v Speaker 5>is a lawful voter. That is just someone who forgot

741
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<v Speaker 5>to sign there atter envelope or mailed it too late

742
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<v Speaker 5>for it.

743
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<v Speaker 3>To be received on time.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need we need to.

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<v Speaker 5>Like disaggregate fraud from the myriad ways that the system

746
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:26.639
<v Speaker 5>can frankly fail voters and Republicans find new ways for

747
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:31.360
<v Speaker 5>the system to fail voters and therefore increase those numbers.

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<v Speaker 5>The most common voter fraud, and this is going to

749
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<v Speaker 5>come as you know, maybe news to everyone, the most

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<v Speaker 5>common quote unquote fraud are committed by husbands and wives

751
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<v Speaker 5>and parents and children, right, which is your absentee ballot

752
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:49.119
<v Speaker 5>comes in, your wife knows who you're going to vote for,

753
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.519
<v Speaker 5>and you have been lazy to return it, and so

754
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.079
<v Speaker 5>your wife marks the ballot and puts it in an

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<v Speaker 5>envelope and mails it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that that's.

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<v Speaker 5>Like literally what I have just described as the single

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<v Speaker 5>most common form of voter fraud. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>this is not to excuse it. It shouldn't happen, but like,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not exactly a nefarious plan. Or a parent who

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<v Speaker 5>applies for an absenty ballot for their spouse or for

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<v Speaker 5>their child, knowing that they want an absentee ballot, they

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<v Speaker 5>send it an application even though they are not the

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<v Speaker 5>person who sought the application. Again, I'm not here to

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<v Speaker 5>say that that is like best practice, but that is

766
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<v Speaker 5>the vast majority of what we're talking about. The thing

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<v Speaker 5>you mentioned in New Jersey was not voter fraud. It

768
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<v Speaker 5>was the state screwed up. I mean, as far as

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<v Speaker 5>we can tell.

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<v Speaker 1>The motor v of the DMV screwed up.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, essentially, as far as we can tell, and you

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<v Speaker 5>know it's still early, but as far as we can tell,

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of non citizens showed up for driver's licenses.

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<v Speaker 5>Totally legal, right, They filled out the box that said

775
00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:52.159
<v Speaker 5>I am not a US citizen, totally appropriate, and then

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00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:57.280
<v Speaker 5>the DMV vendor flipped that box without them knowing, without

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00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:01.760
<v Speaker 5>those people knowing, flip them to citizens rather than non citizens.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not the fault of the person who registered or

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<v Speaker 5>in this case, the you know, the person's all the

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<v Speaker 5>driver's license.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not a fraud scheme.

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<v Speaker 5>It is an error by the Department Motor Vehicle's vendor

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<v Speaker 5>in in that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, when you need a fiand to support

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<v Speaker 1>you on that matter. Having lived in New Jersey from

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<v Speaker 1>most of my life and having sat in the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Motor Vehicle, Eatontown, New Jersey, shout out, I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you that about how that could have happened.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I'll tell you something about that eating eaton town,

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<v Speaker 5>eating town, that Eatontown, New Jersey DMV. It is one

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<v Speaker 5>of the few ways to turn to get to the

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<v Speaker 5>other side of the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Elias, how do you know that, right?

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<v Speaker 5>Because because what you need to know about New Jersey

795
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<v Speaker 5>if you're not from there, is they have designed all

796
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<v Speaker 5>of their roads to make it impossible to cross over

797
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 5>jug handles. Go ahead, explain, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, it's no explanation. I just have the name

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<v Speaker 1>for it. It's called the jug handle.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, which is that you have to go what you

801
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<v Speaker 5>go through the intersection and then double back.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been on Highway thirty six in Eatontown.

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<v Speaker 5>I have been almost everywhere in the Garden State. I

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I grew up in Suffern, New York, which

805
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<v Speaker 5>is right on the New York border between New York

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<v Speaker 5>and New Jersey. In fact, if anyone's familiar with the

807
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<v Speaker 5>song Johnny ninety nine, which was written by Bruce Springsteen,

808
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<v Speaker 5>he talks about the mala Ford plant being closed, and.

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<v Speaker 3>That was right on the border of Malwa, New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>And another good reason we get along, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I got my driver's license at seventeen in Eatontown. Eatontown.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I have, I have. I've said this. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>all of my jobs growing up were in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 5>And as a lawyer, I know this is going to

815
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<v Speaker 5>surprise you, but it's actually not a bad place. Like

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<v Speaker 5>there's not a there's not a shortage of need for lawyers.

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<v Speaker 1>True, true, I need to see I learned a whole

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<v Speaker 1>new things about you. Yeah, talk about this. Talk well,

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<v Speaker 1>catch us up on the voter cases. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>wont another one since we were last together. And then

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<v Speaker 1>do we touch on the election integrity database and why

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<v Speaker 1>it's all riddled with theirs?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So the first thing in terms of vot voting cases,

824
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<v Speaker 5>so we've had a couple of different categories of victories.

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<v Speaker 5>The first is the Department of Justice is now in

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<v Speaker 5>sixteen in their efforts to get their hands on state

827
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<v Speaker 5>voter files, they filed thirty lawsuits. They are now over sixteen.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, Hope Springs eturnal over there at DJ.

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<v Speaker 5>But my law firm, we are undefeated obviously in representing

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<v Speaker 5>voters and groups of voters and protecting their information from

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<v Speaker 5>being turned over to to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Department of Justice.

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<v Speaker 5>States run elections on the federal government. There is no

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<v Speaker 5>role for the federal government here. This is a state

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<v Speaker 5>function and that's what the Constitution says, and it is

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<v Speaker 5>how we operate as a country. The second category of cases,

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<v Speaker 5>so I do want to sort of highlight, which is,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I've litigated countless numbers of vote by mail

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<v Speaker 5>cases with Republicans against Republicans. I have fought with them

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<v Speaker 5>over signature matching. I have fought with them over dated, misdated,

841
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:35.840
<v Speaker 5>undated ballots. I've fought with them over ballot ballot, ballot

842
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:38.360
<v Speaker 5>drop boxes, deadlines for app develis. I mean, if there's

843
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:41.599
<v Speaker 5>something involving Avenue Devellis, I have litigated against Republicans over it.

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<v Speaker 5>And the Republican Party decided that they were going to

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<v Speaker 5>try to target laws in nineteen states that allow ballots

846
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<v Speaker 5>that are postmarked by election date account even if they

847
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<v Speaker 5>come in days afterwards. And they brought a case in Mississippi,

848
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:00.920
<v Speaker 5>not because they cared about Missis. I think they thought

849
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:03.880
<v Speaker 5>that they'd get an easier run in Missippi in Mississippi

850
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.320
<v Speaker 5>than in swing states, and that perhaps I wouldn't be

851
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.679
<v Speaker 5>paying attention. We did pay it. I did pay attention.

852
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:11.559
<v Speaker 5>We intervened in that case. That case went to the

853
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<v Speaker 5>Supreme Court.

854
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<v Speaker 1>We won.

855
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:16.000
<v Speaker 5>That's the Watson case. But what's happened since then, and

856
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 5>this is the update that I want to give you,

857
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<v Speaker 5>is you know, Republicans had prepositioned two cases that they

858
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<v Speaker 5>were that had already been filed and were ready to

859
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:29.519
<v Speaker 5>go when Watson came down. One targeted California, one targeted Illinois.

860
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:33.880
<v Speaker 5>Both of them were aimed at shutting off ballot ballots

861
00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:37.320
<v Speaker 5>postmark by election from counting in those two states, and

862
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:39.760
<v Speaker 5>as a result of the victory in Watson, both of

863
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.360
<v Speaker 5>those cases in the last week have now been dismissed.

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00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.519
<v Speaker 5>So Donald Trump may have his gripe about California, he

865
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:49.719
<v Speaker 5>may spread lives about California vote counting, but he has

866
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:53.639
<v Speaker 5>no legal claim to challenge it, and in fact, the

867
00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:56.079
<v Speaker 5>effort that they had in place has now been dismissed.

868
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:59.000
<v Speaker 5>The other one I want to mention real quickly is

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00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:05.199
<v Speaker 5>we actually proactively sued Kansas because Kansas had a three

870
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.239
<v Speaker 5>day grace period and did away with it and said

871
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.519
<v Speaker 5>no ballots postmark by election day will not count, even

872
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 5>if they come in a day or two afterwards. And

873
00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:16.760
<v Speaker 5>we sued in Kansas, and we won in Kansas. Kansas

874
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:21.920
<v Speaker 5>state judge has now reinstated that three day grace period,

875
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.280
<v Speaker 5>and so that's like a real big win, you know.

876
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:27.440
<v Speaker 1>And on that one mark, what was the what was

877
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.079
<v Speaker 1>the legal basis for your successful argument?

878
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:32.400
<v Speaker 3>So state constitutional claims.

879
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:34.119
<v Speaker 5>You know, when people don't realize this is virtually every

880
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:35.920
<v Speaker 5>state in the country has a right to vote clause.

881
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:40.719
<v Speaker 5>And I expect that there may be some other states

882
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:43.679
<v Speaker 5>that will see similar claims to this in the in

883
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:45.480
<v Speaker 5>the near future. But it's a but it's a good

884
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.920
<v Speaker 5>example of like good news that's taking place a little

885
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:50.960
<v Speaker 5>bit under the surface. You know that that the legacy

886
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:53.840
<v Speaker 5>media doesn't pay as much attention to, but which you know,

887
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:56.360
<v Speaker 5>in close elections, and there will be close elections in

888
00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:58.440
<v Speaker 5>all the states I just mentioned, this can matter.

889
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I'd ask you if you put an your litigation bag

890
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:03.840
<v Speaker 1>handle for all the wins, but you wouldn't have a handle.

891
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:08.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're just just racking them up, and they

892
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:10.920
<v Speaker 1>they do fly below the radar. Although people that if

893
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.920
<v Speaker 1>you haven't already subscribed to Democracy Docket with Mark Elias's team,

894
00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:20.599
<v Speaker 1>you need to. It's it is the fundamental source that

895
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:24.159
<v Speaker 1>that commentators like me use to be updated in real

896
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:27.320
<v Speaker 1>time about what's happening out there in the election cases

897
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and even cases that aren't cases yet. Just you know,

898
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:35.239
<v Speaker 1>bad conduct and actions are piecing together. You know, Donald

899
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Trump does things intentionally in different fragmented pieces hoping that

900
00:53:41.119 --> 00:53:43.960
<v Speaker 1>we don't put the giant puzzle together. And you do

901
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:45.559
<v Speaker 1>a great job with your team of putting that giant

902
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:46.199
<v Speaker 1>puzzle together.

903
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:49.599
<v Speaker 5>So I was going to text you off air about this,

904
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:51.719
<v Speaker 5>but I'll just ask you on air because you are

905
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:56.159
<v Speaker 5>you are the master guru of all things YouTube and

906
00:53:56.199 --> 00:54:01.159
<v Speaker 5>social media. I mean, you have the largest legal podcast

907
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:03.199
<v Speaker 5>YouTube channeling.

908
00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh thanks, Mark, gotta go.

909
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:09.880
<v Speaker 5>So we just launched Democracy Dogget. We launched a reddit,

910
00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:12.360
<v Speaker 5>and I was looking to see do you have a reddit?

911
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Like.

912
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:14.880
<v Speaker 5>We decided to do this because like, there are not

913
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:17.639
<v Speaker 5>a lot of good platforms for communities. So Democracy not

914
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:20.480
<v Speaker 5>Get launched a Democracy not Get subreddit, and I.

915
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Was wondering if this is something you have already conquered.

916
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that we talked about it back in the

917
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:29.320
<v Speaker 1>day Midas and Legal af about a reddit, and it

918
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:32.880
<v Speaker 1>just never sort of became the place for us. I'm

919
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:35.039
<v Speaker 1>not saying that it's not I don't know much about

920
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:36.719
<v Speaker 1>that particular platform.

921
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:38.920
<v Speaker 5>You and I are not of the Reddit era.

922
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:41.320
<v Speaker 1>No, and I went on it. You know, we used

923
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:43.159
<v Speaker 1>to get critiqued a lot on Reddit, and then we

924
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:45.360
<v Speaker 1>used to piss me off. Like Pope Box said this,

925
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, oh shit, what is that community all about?

926
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:50.519
<v Speaker 1>But we were you know, we were early adopters of

927
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:53.440
<v Speaker 1>like Twitter, and then we hated Twitter for obvious reasons

928
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.360
<v Speaker 1>after it became x and then we sort of to

929
00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:01.639
<v Speaker 1>be frank just to lift the curtain here a little bit. YouTube, yes, yeah,

930
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and then we were We're fortunate that we were early

931
00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:08.039
<v Speaker 1>adopters of substack minas first, and then legal af and

932
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:10.000
<v Speaker 1>we are you on Are you guys on substacks?

933
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:13.840
<v Speaker 5>Are not on substack? People are going to find those interesting.

934
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:17.159
<v Speaker 5>So the first is like YouTube. Obviously, I always say

935
00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:19.119
<v Speaker 5>there are only two platforms that you're never going to

936
00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:22.280
<v Speaker 5>outgrow Facebook and YouTube, right, Like, what is it like

937
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.800
<v Speaker 5>four billion people are on Facebook every month. I'm not,

938
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:26.360
<v Speaker 5>by the way, not one of them. I don't have

939
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:28.840
<v Speaker 5>a Facebook account. If you see a Facebook account for me,

940
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:31.960
<v Speaker 5>you can ignore it. But YouTube, right, like, you're never

941
00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:32.920
<v Speaker 5>going to outgrow YouTube.

942
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:41.159
<v Speaker 9>But the the the the whole thing with substack is

943
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:43.360
<v Speaker 9>we had already built by the time people were really

944
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:44.840
<v Speaker 9>focused on subtack, we had already.

945
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:45.639
<v Speaker 3>Built our own tech stack.

946
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:49.760
<v Speaker 5>And you know, we're really committed to it because not

947
00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:53.119
<v Speaker 5>that I don't trust the good people at substack, but

948
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:55.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, I have been sold the oh, this will

949
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:59.239
<v Speaker 5>be a perfect open web platform. Have no fear because

950
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:02.000
<v Speaker 5>like you. I was on Twitter and spent a lot

951
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:03.920
<v Speaker 5>of time tweeting back in the day. You know when

952
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:06.840
<v Speaker 5>before you when you start to put r T when

953
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:09.679
<v Speaker 5>you're right remember like you know.

954
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:11.840
<v Speaker 3>And so we we.

955
00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.639
<v Speaker 5>Are not on substack because we just want to control

956
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:15.519
<v Speaker 5>our own tech stack.

957
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:17.719
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and you and you have an amazing people

958
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.880
<v Speaker 1>need to go on democracy doc and maybe offline you

959
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and I can talk about having some sort of substack

960
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:25.760
<v Speaker 1>presence as well. I do a substack live once a

961
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:26.840
<v Speaker 1>day get a couple of thousand.

962
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:28.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand why.

963
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:30.519
<v Speaker 5>That is because you get so many more views on

964
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:34.559
<v Speaker 5>the audience is like Mark, It's like market This is guys.

965
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:36.239
<v Speaker 3>You want to know what we talk about off off time?

966
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:41.119
<v Speaker 5>Like your YouTube channel is so large, Like what are

967
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:45.079
<v Speaker 5>you incrementally really adding with a substack live? What a

968
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:48.440
<v Speaker 5>few thousand? It's not that the million rel to the

969
00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:50.119
<v Speaker 5>millions you have on YouTube.

970
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:54.880
<v Speaker 1>There's a there's an immediacy, a real time response that

971
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I can do on substack that even if I get

972
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:00.880
<v Speaker 1>a video up in thirty minutes after an event and

973
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 1>it's a million other people covering it, so I have

974
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a connection with an audience. We're building a community like

975
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.880
<v Speaker 1>an overlapping community, but some of it's unique to substack.

976
00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:12.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, we got one hundred and fifty thousand subscribers

977
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>on substack. We're not we're like top thirty of US

978
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:19.159
<v Speaker 1>news already. We put a lot of the content not

979
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>everybody's on YouTube, so we put a lot of the

980
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:23.400
<v Speaker 1>content from YouTube up on substack. But we do we

981
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:25.719
<v Speaker 1>do do unique things. For instance, here I can't do

982
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:29.159
<v Speaker 1>this on YouTube. Everything you you that I cover that

983
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:32.679
<v Speaker 1>you do. All the filings and the orders we post

984
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.360
<v Speaker 1>on substack for people to read. So it's that. And

985
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:37.679
<v Speaker 1>then I do a live as sort of extra content.

986
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:40.559
<v Speaker 1>And also I can do like, hey, breaking new literally

987
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:42.480
<v Speaker 1>breaking news just happened ten minutes ago, or I need

988
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:44.800
<v Speaker 1>to update a video that I just did because it

989
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:47.880
<v Speaker 1>got stale because of some other crazy crap that Trump

990
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:51.840
<v Speaker 1>or Blanche did. So there is it is another community building.

991
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:54.039
<v Speaker 5>Actually, this is why you guys are so much smarter

992
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:56.239
<v Speaker 5>than I am, because you know the guy, the person

993
00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:58.800
<v Speaker 5>who like totally agrees with you is Brian Tyler Cohane,

994
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:02.119
<v Speaker 5>who I know is a friend of the mida's network

995
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:04.440
<v Speaker 5>as well and someone I do I do a lot

996
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:07.440
<v Speaker 5>of content with, and he was like just lecturing me

997
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:08.559
<v Speaker 5>about this yesterday.

998
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:09.119
<v Speaker 3>He's like Mark.

999
00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:12.599
<v Speaker 5>Some people want to be on Spotify, so they're on Spotify.

1000
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:14.280
<v Speaker 5>Some people want to be on YouTube. They're on YouTube.

1001
00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:15.960
<v Speaker 5>Some people want to be on substack Live. They're on

1002
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:19.920
<v Speaker 5>substack Live. Different viewers, different or you know, consumers. When

1003
00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:21.679
<v Speaker 5>I say people, I don't mean I don't mean the

1004
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:24.639
<v Speaker 5>creators like you and me. I mean the like some

1005
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:28.679
<v Speaker 5>people want to consume through one platform or another, and

1006
00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:30.679
<v Speaker 5>you just need to let them consume it where it is,

1007
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:32.719
<v Speaker 5>rather than lecturing them about which platform.

1008
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Right. It's like it's like candy bars. They come in

1009
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:37.639
<v Speaker 1>all different sizes, from small to meetiums, the large, and

1010
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:40.199
<v Speaker 1>just to show you where you're exactly right. Ben and

1011
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I used to tibbots about uh the I just lost

1012
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:48.039
<v Speaker 1>my train of thought about where where we existed and

1013
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:51.480
<v Speaker 1>who was watching? Oh when we started the podcast and

1014
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Mia did too as an audio only Oh in fact,

1015
00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:59.320
<v Speaker 1>six years ago, there's there's a joke on really. Oh yeah.

1016
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I used to get dressed up because we used to

1017
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:04.960
<v Speaker 1>record it on zoom. I used to get dressed up

1018
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and Ben would show up like in a T shirt.

1019
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:09.400
<v Speaker 1>And after about three or four episodes, I said to

1020
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:11.280
<v Speaker 1>how can you go get dressed up for this? He goes,

1021
00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 1>it's we're not doing video. What do you mean? He goes,

1022
00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:17.039
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? Why are we doing video? He goes,

1023
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:20.039
<v Speaker 1>we're not. And then Minus did video and then Legal

1024
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Aft did video. So when I said to him, and

1025
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:24.639
<v Speaker 1>at the time, I think it's sort of changed now.

1026
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:27.599
<v Speaker 1>But five years ago there were people who only got

1027
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:30.159
<v Speaker 1>our audio download, had no idea what we looked like,

1028
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:31.320
<v Speaker 1>and didn't know we were on YouTube.

1029
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

1030
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Now I think that's sort of changing people.

1031
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<v Speaker 5>That's ironic because I didn't know you were on audio only.

1032
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:38.599
<v Speaker 5>I've only watch I only watched you on video.

1033
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:40.920
<v Speaker 1>We were started out as audio only. And then I

1034
00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:44.840
<v Speaker 1>convinced Bend when he when the brothers went video went YouTube,

1035
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:46.639
<v Speaker 1>I said, why are we on YouTube? We should be

1036
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:48.280
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, And that's how that happened.

1037
00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:49.400
<v Speaker 3>So I so all that.

1038
00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:51.920
<v Speaker 1>So I hope people like this inside baseball stuff. I do.

1039
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<v Speaker 3>It's a great story.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the next? Give us end it this way? I

1041
00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:57.639
<v Speaker 1>know you're being generous with your time. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>go like now, just ended this way? But what should our

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<v Speaker 1>what should our audience be? What should they be watching?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the what is a couple of things they

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<v Speaker 1>need to be on the lookout for through your organization mind.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so number one, the Republicans are going to try

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<v Speaker 5>to exploit the what happened in New Jersey with this

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<v Speaker 5>vendor to try to justify all kinds of crazy stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>So like, don't don't buy into the lies, Like understand

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<v Speaker 5>the facts. You can get them for Michael, you can

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<v Speaker 5>get them for me. Hopefully he and I will continue

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<v Speaker 5>to have uh these uh uh these joint appearances where

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<v Speaker 5>we can kind of explain it together, but be skeptical

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<v Speaker 5>when you when you hear those things. The second thing

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<v Speaker 5>is Donald Trump's only going to get more desperate. And

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<v Speaker 5>so the speech that you just gave was a failure.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a failure to try to ignite energy behind

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<v Speaker 5>the idea that there had been foreign interference. But Donald

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<v Speaker 5>Trump doesn't go away, right, It's not like he tries

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<v Speaker 5>it once and then he leaves. He will simply escalate.

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<v Speaker 5>He'll escalate the lies, he'll escalate the tactics. So be

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<v Speaker 5>able to look out for that. And then, finally, despite

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<v Speaker 5>the wins we just had that I described about voting

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<v Speaker 5>by mail, voting by mail is still under attack, in particular,

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<v Speaker 5>the assault on the use of the postal Service by

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<v Speaker 5>the Trump administration remains very much a hot topic of litigation.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a lot going on there, and maybe Michael, we

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<v Speaker 5>will cover that next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, I think the postal Service is a great

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<v Speaker 1>win for us to cover Mark Elias Democracy docket. If

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<v Speaker 1>if this is the first you've heard of it, go

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<v Speaker 1>on now and subscribe and can help mark the content

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<v Speaker 1>there and the and the reliability of the content is unmatched,

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<v Speaker 1>really unparallel. And then you'll catch Mark here. You'll catch

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<v Speaker 1>Mark on with Brian don Cohen.

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<v Speaker 5>And at some point, at some point, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>announce this and Michael is going to be like, no,

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<v Speaker 5>we're not. At some point, maybe Michael and I will

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<v Speaker 5>do a joint in person in Durham, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that I love. I love that. I definitely in

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<v Speaker 1>person anywhere, but definitely a Durham urreactly a Durham, North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>our old, our old stopping.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll figure you'll figure the venue.

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<v Speaker 1>That's easy is uh, is Bullock's Barbecue still around? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm gonna find out. We're gonna find out.

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<v Speaker 1>And UH separately has a law firm, Elias Lock Group,

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<v Speaker 1>Elias Lock Group. They have a website to follow them there.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Olias, thank you for being so generous with your

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<v Speaker 1>time with our audience and I can't wait to see

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<v Speaker 1>you again in the next next week or so.

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<v Speaker 3>Same here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Mark Elias. You know this is because of you,

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<v Speaker 1>our audience vibrating on that same frequency. We're able to

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<v Speaker 1>have the street cred to get people who want to

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<v Speaker 1>come on the show, want to talk to our audience.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no arm twisting going on. You know. I have

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<v Speaker 1>another programming note. I've got the General the new General

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<v Speaker 1>Counsel for the nuble A CP, will be joining me

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday for an interview. We just had the nuble

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<v Speaker 1>A CP, who's going to be a more regular contributor

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<v Speaker 1>and collaborator with us on the Legal af YouTube channel,

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<v Speaker 1>joining the American Civil Liberties Union as well. Senator Warnock,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I don't make these things happen. You The

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<v Speaker 1>audience makes things, makes makes these things happen. If it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like you know, old curmudgeon Popac phoning up

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<v Speaker 1>a senator or a governor, or a congress person or

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<v Speaker 1>a judge, they'd be like, who what when I say

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<v Speaker 1>legal AF, I'm your ambassador, and that helps us land at.

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Shapiro from Pennsylvania is going to be joining me

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<v Speaker 1>in the next week or so. Just just a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>amount of fantastic programming, all not only for you, but

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of you, because of you, and so

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<v Speaker 1>while you're here, a number of ways to support what

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<v Speaker 1>we do. We've got the from those who just heard

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<v Speaker 1>about the substack. You heard Mark Elias joined us on

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<v Speaker 1>Legal AFF substack. Hit the button, help us continue to

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<v Speaker 1>let's get us into the top ten of all US

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<v Speaker 1>news and politics substacks. And I promise you we won't

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<v Speaker 1>let you down on the content side, and never will

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<v Speaker 1>Legal AF. The YouTube channel literally while we were on

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<v Speaker 1>the air, we crossed over to one million, one and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy thousand subscribers, adding twenty thousand subscribers in the last

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks. And again that's all because of your fervent

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<v Speaker 1>support and generosity of what you do. And we'll pull

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<v Speaker 1>our weight, you know well, with our contributors. And then

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<v Speaker 1>one and one last kind of plug here. I think

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<v Speaker 1>people know that I formed a law firm sort of

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to the intersection. Might have touched in legal af communities.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called what else the pop Pok Firm. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>QR code. Hit the QR code. It's a brand new website.

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<v Speaker 1>Same tireless fighters for you. Any kind of injury, negligence,

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<v Speaker 1>medical malpractice, car accidents, truck accidents, God forbid, the death

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<v Speaker 1>of somebody in your life or your family, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to want to call the Poppak Firm. And there's your

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to do it at www. The Pope Pockfirm dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me round out with just a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>things to update here as we came on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Peter Navarro, one of the architects of the Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Sweep also known as the attempt to Steal the

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<v Speaker 1>election in twenty twenty, along with Ken Chessburrow and John Eastman. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Navarro, who went to jail for four months, came out,

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a book and is now I think some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of trade representative or trade in policy or tariff policy

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<v Speaker 1>representative for Donald Trump. So he got convicted for not

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<v Speaker 1>testifying to Congress and refusing to produce documents related to

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<v Speaker 1>the jan sixth committee. Okay, then he went to jail. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he decided he was going to write I

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<v Speaker 1>think he got a partner ready, but no, no, he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to He wanted to prove in a court of

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<v Speaker 1>law that does conviction was unjust. So he filed an appeal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we just got a thirty seven page ruling from

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<v Speaker 1>judge's Millet Child's and there's one more. If I find

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<v Speaker 1>my note, i'll tell you who it is. It's coming

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<v Speaker 1>Millet Child's in Pollard, all Democratic judge president appointees, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've rejected Peter Navarro's his appeal. This is what they said,

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<v Speaker 1>and they kind of sum it up in the first

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<v Speaker 1>page or two. In twenty twenty one, Peter Navarro, a

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<v Speaker 1>former aid to then President Trump, published a book about

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<v Speaker 1>his stint in politics. In that book and in promotional interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>he took credit for devising a plan to leverage the

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<v Speaker 1>Vice president's authority that would be Mike Pence under the

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<v Speaker 1>Electoral count Act of eighteen eighty seven to delay the certification.

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<v Speaker 1>He called it the Green Bay Sweep. Doctor Navarro's public

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<v Speaker 1>statements caught the attention of the Jen Six Committee. The

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<v Speaker 1>Select Committee sent a subpoena Davarro that saw documents related

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<v Speaker 1>to his book and public statements that ordered him and

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<v Speaker 1>ordered him to appear for a deposition. He claimed executive

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<v Speaker 1>privilege even though he wasn't in the White House, and

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<v Speaker 1>refused to turn over the documents. After the deadline for

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<v Speaker 1>compliance passed, the House voted to hold him in contempt,

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<v Speaker 1>and a federal grand jury indicted him on two counts.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Navarro moves to dismissed the indictment on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>that President Trump had invoked executive privilege. The problem with

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<v Speaker 1>that is he had no proof of that. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the judge at the time, Judge Mayta, I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was said, Okay, I get it. You say there was

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<v Speaker 1>executive privilege that was invoked by President Trump. Where's the

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<v Speaker 1>affidavit of President Trump. Where's the testimonial, Where's any scrap

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<v Speaker 1>of paper anything that tells me that that actually happened. Hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing that didn't come in, and that got dismissed by

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<v Speaker 1>the judge. After an evidentiary hearing, the appellate court concludes.

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<v Speaker 1>The district court concluded that no such invocation of privilege

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<v Speaker 1>had occurred and declined to dismiss the indictment. The district

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<v Speaker 1>court also granted the government's motion inlimonae to preclude doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Navarro from arguing to the jury that he mistakenly believed

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<v Speaker 1>he was not required to respond to the committee's subpoena.

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<v Speaker 1>A jury found him guilty on both counts. Navarro appealed,

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<v Speaker 1>we affirm. I mean, there's thirty six pages of other analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>But that sort of just tells you that judges wearing

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<v Speaker 1>black robes, when presented with evidence or lack of evidence

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<v Speaker 1>and facts, will do the right thing under our rule

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<v Speaker 1>of law and to protect our democracy. And that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. It's going to piss off Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>he'll have some you know, there'll be some rapid response

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven. I'm sure it's already gone out about how

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful Peter Navarro is and how corrupt the appellate Court is.

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<v Speaker 1>But we all know what that really means is that

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<v Speaker 1>he's lost, just like he loses over and over again

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<v Speaker 1>to the Mark Eliasis of the world. That should give

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<v Speaker 1>you confidence, you know that we're just we're not blowing

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<v Speaker 1>smoking or sunshine here. We're not being pollyannish, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>not blowing smoke or sunshine either. I have real confidence

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<v Speaker 1>in people like Mark and dozens of other marks from

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<v Speaker 1>norm Iisen to Democracy Forward to the Attorney's General Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>I just interviewed Rob Bonta about him getting a emergency

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<v Speaker 1>temporary restraining order to stop the merger, forget the merger,

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the acquisition of CNN and all those assets

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<v Speaker 1>at order by paramount the billionaire boys club friends of

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. That's because twelve Democratic Attorney's General joined forces

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<v Speaker 1>and filed that lawsuit and won, just like they won

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the acquisition of hundreds of local television stations,

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<v Speaker 1>just like they won against Live Nation related to price

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<v Speaker 1>gouging and sporting and live events. Who do you think

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<v Speaker 1>is doing that? I mean, that's a rhetorical question. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know who know who's doing it. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>groups that have their hands firmly on the controls, know

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing, and are filing the suits that are

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<v Speaker 1>being successful. I mean, I said. A couple of weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>the American Civil Liberties Union, which I'm honored to have

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<v Speaker 1>with us on as collaborators on legal af I interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>their political director. She said they have twenty five tabletop

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<v Speaker 1>exercises of doomsday scenarios evolving Donald Trump and voting, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are ready with drafts of papers ready to be

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<v Speaker 1>filed on any of those scenarios. And I assure you

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<v Speaker 1>they are more creative about how diabolical Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>that even Donald Trump, because at bottom, he's not that smart,

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<v Speaker 1>and neither are the people that are left in the government.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the brain drain. You know, where all those

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<v Speaker 1>top level Department of Justice people are in private practice

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<v Speaker 1>or working for the state attorneys general, or are working

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<v Speaker 1>as state prosecutors, they're still around defending democracy. And speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of defending democracy, you're not gonna want to miss this Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first time we've ever done it with a

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<v Speaker 1>group called Not Above the Law. We're doing there. It

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<v Speaker 1>is Block Blanche live stream Special Senator Dick Durbin, Representative

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<v Speaker 1>Lamonica mcgiver of New Jersey, Representative Rocanna CALLI, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I got my picture there, Michael Pope Buck. We just

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<v Speaker 1>put that up. That's pretty good. That is right now

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<v Speaker 1>under live tab for Legal AF YouTube Legal aff YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>live tab Thursday, eight pm Eastern Time, one hour. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get lots of information that you need to block

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Blanche. It's gonna be like a it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>like a toolbox that they're gonna effectively give you about

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<v Speaker 1>how to do it, and they need your help to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. That's why I wanted to live stream it.

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<v Speaker 1>So join us there. I'll open the show, open the

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<v Speaker 1>live stream, and then we'll go right into a heavy

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<v Speaker 1>work you know, eat dinner before or lunch whatever, heavy

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<v Speaker 1>working session about how to block Todd Blanche's vote, which

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<v Speaker 1>is coming up probably the week of August the third.

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<v Speaker 1>And then lastly, as we end our night tonight, as

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<v Speaker 1>the time has come. Uh yeah, we got a ruling

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<v Speaker 1>out of the out of a three judge panel. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just I guess to prove our point that

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<v Speaker 1>judges are independent and judges do the right thing when

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<v Speaker 1>they have the facts in law in front of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Shrevenasen, who is the chief Judge of the DC

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<v Speaker 1>Appellate Court and as an appointee of one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic presidents, he just ruled against Joe Biden along with

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of other people on his panel, one a

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<v Speaker 1>Trumper Katsis and are releasing the Biden tapes subject to

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<v Speaker 1>a final appeal at the United States Supreme Court. Seventy

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<v Speaker 1>hours of musings with Joe Biden trying to prepare for

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<v Speaker 1>a biography, talking to is not his ghostwriter, but his writer,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark K. Schwanitzer, and those tapes ended up being turned

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<v Speaker 1>over by subpoena or voluntarily by Joe Biden to Robert Hurr,

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<v Speaker 1>the special counsel investigating with her he had leaked classified

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<v Speaker 1>information after his vice president and Judge Shriven Austin, writing

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<v Speaker 1>for the Majority, said, it's a great public interest that

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<v Speaker 1>people know about it. And what are we going to see?

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna hear a guy who recently lost his son,

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<v Speaker 1>who has memory problems, you know, talking privately and candidly

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<v Speaker 1>in a house to his ghostwriter, his writer about a

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<v Speaker 1>book that he wanted to write.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, if you don't already have an opinion about

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<v Speaker 8>Joe Biden, who's been in public life for fifty years,

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<v Speaker 8>was a president for four, a vice president for eight,

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<v Speaker 8>a senator for twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>You watched him age in place in the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>if you saw what happened at the debate, you saw

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<v Speaker 1>what happened on the campaign trial. If you don't already

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<v Speaker 1>have an opinion about him, this is not going This

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to form one and it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to change it if you have an opinion about him already.

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<v Speaker 1>I already have a well formed opinion about Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'll keep to myself for right now. But and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the entirety of his body of work, not

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<v Speaker 1>just the last you know, year or two, or what

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<v Speaker 1>he did to the Democratic Party in the final year.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, this is just about the Heritage

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<v Speaker 1>Foundation trying to execute on Donald Trump's plan to embarrass

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party, to undermine its idols, to go after

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<v Speaker 1>the Barack Obamas and the Joe Biden's and the Hillary Clintons,

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<v Speaker 1>and to try to make our party and try to

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<v Speaker 1>make the party sorry, weak and ineffectual, and make people

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<v Speaker 1>run away from it because they're running away from the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Party in mega. And so this is their plan,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what they are doing with our taxpayer

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in time. Anyway, I'm sure Joe Biden has announced

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<v Speaker 1>that he's going to be taking a feel up to

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<v Speaker 1>the United States Supreme Court, and we'll see whether, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they're going to allow it. It was a two

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<v Speaker 1>to one decision. The dissent reminded everybody that he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>indicted who wasn't indicted. This is information that was obtained

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<v Speaker 1>but not it was referenced in the report but not

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<v Speaker 1>released by the Special Council. Certainly would never have been

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<v Speaker 1>released at Kamala Harris become president, ran the Department of Justice,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where we are at. But I try to

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<v Speaker 1>report on everything at the intersection, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people think I was avoiding that. You know, sure, Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>Biden won a couple of million dollars off of the

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<v Speaker 1>overstock dot com guy for defamation. That's good to I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that too, But thanks for being here. Here here's

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<v Speaker 1>the programming list for POPAC that you can follow tomorrow morning,

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<v Speaker 1>nine thirty am Eastern time. Up on Legal Aff YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 1>My interview with Katie Fay Up right now on Legal

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<v Speaker 1>aff YouTube. My interview with Rob Banta, the Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>of California, and my interview with Brendan Blou who is

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<v Speaker 1>the the lawyer for Katie Fang and has filed other

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<v Speaker 1>cases against Donald Trump, including one alleging bribery at the

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<v Speaker 1>highest levels concerning the corporate merger of Warner in paramount.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got an interview with the head of Immigration Rights

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<v Speaker 1>at the American Civil Liberties Union. Tomorrow I interview Senator Warnock,

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Senator Warnock of Georgia about all things Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>and voting. You're not going to want to miss that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I've got Danny Benski, as I said, joining

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<v Speaker 1>me on Thursday, just a action packed group. Along with

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<v Speaker 1>that Thursday night Block Blanche Block the vote for Todd

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<v Speaker 1>Blant stream that's going to be up on we're hosting

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<v Speaker 1>on legal AF YouTube channel. So thanks for being here.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the generosity of your time and spirit. Until

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<v Speaker 1>my next report, you know that's coming up in about

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. I'm my co Popebok. Shout out to the

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<v Speaker 1>Midas Mighty, the Legal A efforts and the intersectionists. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>get your Legal AF mean either. That's why we formed

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<v Speaker 1>the legal AF substack. Every time we mentioned something in

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<v Speaker 1>a hot take, whether it's a court filing or a

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<v Speaker 1>oral argument, come over to the substack. You'll find the

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<v Speaker 1>court filing and the oral argument there, including a daily

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<v Speaker 1>roundup that I do call wait for it, mourning a

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<v Speaker 1>f what else. All the other contributors from legal AF

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<v Speaker 1>are there as well. We got some new reporting, we

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<v Speaker 1>got interviews, we got a free versions of the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and hot takes where legal A f on Substack. Come

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<v Speaker 1>over now to free subscribe
