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Speaker 1: The exclaimer to the fair season. Karen's out there?

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, what is happening and what is up? Hold

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out that glass, baby, you know what time it is?

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We about to feel it. Welcome to the Premiteous Lens Podcast,

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the place with the conversations are always in lightning. I'm

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your host, Doc Brown, and here we like to use

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the allegory of the Prometheus Lens to take a second

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look at everything. Well, guys, this is a subject that

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we've kind of flirted with and had some other topics

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that kind of crossed and weaved in. We've touched on

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it lightly, but we're going to take a deep die today.

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I'm excited to bring this gal on and talk to

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you and educate us all very thoroughly. But I hope

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this is the first of many. But I'd like to

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welcome to the Prometheus Lens for the first time, Miss

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Haley Ramsey. She is an author, a researcher, adventurer, and

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many many other things. But I like to welcome you

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to the show.

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Speaker 4: Haley.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for donating your time, thank.

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Speaker 3: You so much for having me, And I'm really excited

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to get to share a little bit more about the

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divine feminine here because my focuses have been a little

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bit more on other topics lately. I'm currently writing a

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book that is called From Raw to Ramsey, Rediscovering the

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Egyptian Origins of Britain, so that's been consuming a lot

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of my time for research and writing. But the first

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book that I ever published was back in twenty twenty three,

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called The Bringer of Life, a Cosmic History of the

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Divine Feminine, and i'd started writing that in twenty eighteen

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when i'd actually been traveling through France with David Hatchard Childress,

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who many people will recognize from History Channel's number one

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show Ancient Aliens, and he and his wife Jen were

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mentors to me and they encouraged me to write this book. So,

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after running around all these cathedrals, including Notre Dame in Paris,

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I excitedly began jotting down notes that one of the

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other travelers with us had given to me and encouraged

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me to start and outline for a book. And I

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asked David Well, who's going to publish this book? And

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he gave me a look because they own a publishing company.

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So anyway, this began the journey of my career as

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an author. And so I began writing this book and

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COVID happened. Lots of changes in my life happened. Eventually,

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in twenty twenty three, was finally published, and it opened

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up a door of so many different rabbit holes, but

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also lots of opportunities, lots of new people that I've

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met and gotten to share research with. And now I've

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gotten to see a whole different lens of the divine feminine.

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And recently I've really been fascinated in the Gnostic Gospels

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and how Jesus portrays the divine feminine and integrates it

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into the concept of deity of God. Are you familiar

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at all with the Gnostic Gospels just briefly.

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Speaker 1: I've kind of touched on them a little bit. I've

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read like some excerpts out of I'm trying to think

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the Gospel of Thomas and the Mary Magdalen where they

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found that papyrus or whatever. It says that he kissed marry,

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but there's that burn that you can't see, well, he kissed.

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not really taking a deep.

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Speaker 3: Path on it, okay, Right, So one of the things

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that I begin with in my book is I take

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this lens of the divine and feminine and I kind

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of pull it back a bit and look at the

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history of the divine feminine in totality, and I begin

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with the beginning of time itself, going back to the

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Big Bang, and how the ancient people perceived the beginning

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of creation itself, because it seems that the ancient Egyptians,

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the ancient Hindu people, the ancient Buddhists, they all had

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their own perception of what the beginning of time looked like.

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starry skies above. They all had this understanding that what

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the Egyptians called the primordial waters, which were the vast

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cosmos above us and surrounding us. They believed that that

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was where everything began, and they would be correct. Every

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ancient culture seemed to have some sort of understanding that

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there was in fact an event that created everything, that

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led to our appearance here on Earth, and in this

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understanding they seemed to somehow have the knowledge of an

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event similar to the Big Bang. Whether it's precisely that,

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we don't know, but they describe things in their own

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ancient iconography, which was mostly religious iconography, through their symbols

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and metaphors that today we could interpret almost as it

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being their simpler understanding of a scientific phenomena like the

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Big Bang. However, to the ancient people, science was not

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separate from spirituality or from religion. So these events that

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were unfolding creation that was sacred right, and so these

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events were celebrated as being religious events, being spiritual events,

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and with the Big Bang itself, these starry skies the

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primordial waters of creation where everything was born from. If

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we go back also to ancient Hindu beliefs, they believed

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that the starry skies the primordial waters of the Egyptians

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were actually connected with what is known as Shakti. Now,

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Shakti herself is an ancient goddess, but she's known as

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the faceless goddess because she is more of an essence

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rather than a personified goddess with certain physical characteristics. You know,

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she's not really depicted as having certain physical characteristics like

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straight or curly hair, or certain shaped eyes or wide hips.

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means to be the divine feminine of the goddess, the Creator.

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And in fact, are you familiar with the term kundalini

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and what that represents.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the host chakra system, the seven orbs going up

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the spine, is that what you're referring to.

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energy that is located at the base of your spine

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waiting to be awakened. And the original word used in

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these ancient texts that refers to kundalini, the very first

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references were actually called Shakti energy. So this awakening, this

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energy that's associated with our chakras that is said to

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move through us and awaken us, is attributed to Shakti.

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Shakti herself was said to be the essence of the cosmos,

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and essentially it was said to be almost her womb

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space where everything was formed. Now I find this really

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interesting because when I was sitting through some of my

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astronomy courses and astrophysics courses at university, I remember thinking

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to myself, this sounds awfully spiritual. The way that this

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is being explained to me, despite everything being very much

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in scientific terms and phrasing, I could start to understand

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how the ancient people began to put it into context

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of these sacred religious events. It began to make perfect

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sense to me. So I remember going home and working

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on my book and I immediately began going into these

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different creation myths. But what stood out to me is

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that as somebody that sees everything very much, I'm also

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a poet, so I see everything through a lens of

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metaphors and you know, allegories and everything else already, So

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it was very easy for me to see how the

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ancients might ascribe these allegories or these religious connotations to

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these events that occurred, for example, when the Big Bang happened. Essentially,

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what we understand is that there was this eternal existence

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is infinite existence. And then this consciousness, that's the only

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thing that we can explain it as something that had

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an awareness decided and it made a conscious decision to

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collapse in on itself. And because it decided to collapse

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in on itself, it then began creating different elements. There

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was there was fire, there was all of these sort

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of explosions occurring, and within these explosions that's where we

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start getting different elements. And so some of these first

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elements began floating through the cosmos, and when they collide,

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it's almost like there is some sort of pregnancy, if

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you would, if you could imagine it that way, it

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was like with these like a.

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Speaker 1: Sperm sale and an egg, they collade and it lights up,

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is the beginning of life itself in the cosmos. This

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is where you see, you know, at the beginning, when

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the big bang happens and then all of these tiny

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little explosions. The light, you could say, which in many

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ancient cultures, light is associated with masculine, darkness is associated

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with female, and the light per se may be considered

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the masculine force that is creating these different elements, and

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then these elements are floating through space and collide which

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create the first organic material hydrogen and carbon, and then

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that's the building blocks for life itself and the cosmos.

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where all life begins to develop from this point forward. Now,

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ancient cultures all over the world I discovered had the

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same idea a long time ago, thousands of years ago.

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They believed in these concepts of the cosmic egg, of

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the gods being born and floating around and the heavens

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before being born, that they were waiting to be born

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until some event occurred or they came to awareness, in fact,

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in one of the Noasa Gospels, which I wanted to

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kind of center this conversation on the Gnostic Gospels because

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there's a lot that is not talked about and I

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think was suppressed from Christianity because Jesus himself had traveled

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all over the world and learned from all these ancient cultures,

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and what Christianity, true Christianity, really was, was a culmination

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of all these ancient mystery teachings from around the world,

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and it was about integration integrating the masculine and the feminine,

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and the feminine almost was elevated in a sense. So Jesus,

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in the Secret Book of John, also known as the

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Apocryphant of John, comes to his disciple John because John

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goes to the temple and is basically being humiliated by

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a Roman and being made fun of. So he decides

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to leave and go out into the desert to go

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and pray. And he's basically sitting there saying to Jesus

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as his post crucifixion, you know, to my teacher, why

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have you forsaken me? Maybe this was all nonsense, and

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he's kind of rambling and upset, and then Jesus appears

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to him and he says, to John, why do you

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doubt yourself? Why do you doubt me? Any questions you

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have that have gone unanswered, ask me now and I'll

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answer them. So John says, well, okay, So he starts

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spiring away all these questions. Tell me what really happened

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to creation? For one, So Jesus begins telling him this

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creation story, this Gnostic creation story, isn't the traditional creation

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story that we've all been taught in the Book of Genesis.

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but I want to go back to the very beginning

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because what he explains is that when there was this

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ancient darkness, this primordial darkness that existed, there was the mother.

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But the Father only came into awareness because he saw

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the reflection of his light in the darkness of the Mother.

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before I published my book, and I didn't really catch

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it till afterwards because it depends on the translation of

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the Secret Book of John that you read and how

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they put this line in there. But this was something

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that was quite profound to me because essentially it almost

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says in some parts the father comes first, but this

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one line changes that by saying that he only became

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aware of himself because of his reflection in the darkness.

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Now that darkness obviously came first. So this was one

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very interesting part of this. And there's a few different

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parts of the Gnostic Gospels I wanted to quote and

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read to you, but I was just curious if you're

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familiar with with any of these Gnostic stories or Gnostic

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creation myths. Are you familiar with Sophia at all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've stumbled in some other stuff, and like my research,

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like Mace, the movie The Matrix was kind of like

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a good allegory of the Gnostic belief system that you

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had a male demiurge that was the creator, and then

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you had a female Sophia, which means wisdom, and when

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he created the earth, I think it was that it

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was the Matrix. And so when people's spirits try to

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escape him and his angels restrict and keep everybody there,

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and Sophia, like Neo, inserts herself into the system to

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enlighten people and teach them how to escape. That's kind

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of how I understood it anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very good modern understanding of it for sure.

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Sophia and understanding that Gnostic creation story before I died

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into what happened exactly. And I'm not going to give

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the full context of it because it's hard to follow,

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but I'll give the basic understanding. One of my favorite

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quotes from the Gnostic Gospels is from the thunder Perfect Mind,

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and it's one of the Gnostic gospels that was discovered

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at the nag Hamadi find from nineteen forty five in Egypt,

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and it says she well, firstly, let me say that

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the speaker here is speaking as an emanation of the

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divine feminine herself, and she speaks in paradox, so she's

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speaking as the feminine and totality and identifies herself as

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both opposites all at once. And this is another important

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teaching and mysticism in the age Gnostic teachings, but also

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mystery teaching is in ancient Egypt the Kabbala, as you said,

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but also in the Gnostic teachings. You see that Jesus

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is teaching this, but he gets this from his own

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through his travels too, probably to India and Ti Bet

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and beyond, and to other places around the world that

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we know he traveled. So this is one of the

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one of my favorite quotes from here that really presses

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this whole duality aspect. I am the first and the last,

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which sounds exactly like alpha and omega beginning and end right.

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I am the honored one and the scorned one. I

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am the whore and the holy one. This is not

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contradiction at all. In fact, this is about integration because

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one of the biggest parts of Jesus's teachings that we

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see in narcissism, and it's not as focused on, I

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would say, in the traditional biblical teachings, but it's integration.

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It is learning to sit with your shadow, learning to

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sit with your darkest parts of yourself and love them,

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integrate them, be at peace with them, because only when

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you have that balance of lightness and darkness can you

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become whole. Wholeness is the entire teaching of narcissism, truly,

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and this comes into what I want to move into

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next to this conversation, which is about divine union. Are

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you familiar at all with the phrase divine union and

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the teaching surrounding divine union?

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Speaker 1: Just lightly, that's another thirty thousand foot view. I know

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when you're talking about the Egyptian creation myth, I know

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it depicts a woman like with this starry body like

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overtop like a dome underneath a male and like supposedly

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they were together in sexual union, but a god had

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to like separate them to create earth. Is it something like.

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Speaker 3: That or yeah? So I would say yes, there's part

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of this. So in ancient Egypt, all of our gods

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had a sacred opposite. So in a lot of ancient cultures,

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God's always had a feminine counterpart, and vice versa, the

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goddess always had a masked encounterpart. They always had their

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divine counterpart that was the exact opposite but also mirrored

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them in some way. So yeah, exactly, So just as

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we have today, everything operates in complete opposites. We have

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dark and night, dark in light, day and night, heaven

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and earth. You know, there's always these parallels of duality

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that we see every day in our waking life. And

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this was something that the ancient saw and understood as

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being central to creation, central to the material world. And

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so going into the Sacred Union, it wasn't just about

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what was happening in the exterior in the world. It

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was also about what's happening internally here, and Jesus was

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teaching the whole idea of integration and inner union first

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and foremost. And the way that I try to break

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this down to people when I'm explaining this firstly is

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you know, people say you can't love someone else until

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you truly love yourself, So I always say that to

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start off with, because you can't experience a true external

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divine union with a partner until you have a true

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divine union with yourself internally. And now what this means

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is having that integration between the masculine and the feminine.

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And another thing, when Jesus says and repeats in the

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Ten Commandments, honor thy mother and father, that is something

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that has been I think really misconstrued because we're not

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just talking about honoring your earthly mother and father. We're

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talking about honoring the heavenly mother and father and going

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into creation, the Nosta creation. So I was mentioning this

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whole story is about the descent into the material world

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and why we ended up here in the first place.

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So many people see this as failure on Sofia's part,

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and this was often mistaken for and also not just

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mistaken but I think wrongly put into the story of

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Adam and Eve. So you'll see some parallels here to

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this as I tell you this, So in the gnastic

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story of Creation, I'm going to skip through a bunch

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because there's a lot, but basically there's multiple eons that

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exist in the cosmos. Now, are you familiar at all

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with the sacredness of the number thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Once again, it's another thirty thousand fit view. I've looked

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in like freemasonry and stuff like that, and I know

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thirteen is a big number, and there are symbology and

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the skull and bones and that kind of stuff. But

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once again, that's a thirty thousand fit view.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So real quick, thirteen is a sacred number for

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a few reasons, but it's tied to the divine feminine.

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So we've seen lunar cycles in a year, and women

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have thirteen minstrual cycles that follow the lunar cycles. So

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that's one connection we bleed with the moon. Secondly, the

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planet Venus, which is associated with the queen of Heaven.

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ancient goddess Venus isis nana ishtar and and also with

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later on Virgin Mary when they tried to assimilate Mary

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and ancient pagan practices into Christianity. So Mary is referred

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to as Queen of Heaven, just as the ancient goddesses

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were referred to as queen of Heaven. Now Venus, the sign,

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the symbol of the pentagram itself comes from the planet Venus,

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and the reason being is that over the course of

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eight Earth years and precisely thirteen Venus years, and this

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is all part of the Golden Ratio, and this is

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partially wine Freemasonry. The deity is called the Great Architect

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of the Universe because everything is exactly proportionately created using

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the Golden ratio. It's beautifully done that way. So over

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the course of these eight Earth years and thirteen Venus years,

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if you watch from Earth and you're plotting in the

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heavens the path that Venus takes, it creates the pentagram,

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a five petaled rose, if you will, five pointed star. Now,

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this was an ancient astronomical symbol used to depict the

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planet Venus, and her cycle was so precise that after

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the course of eight earth years she returns to the

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exact same place. And again this is another representation of

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the planet Venus being sacred as an emanation of the

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feminine and also in ancient times they were referred to

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the Sun and planet Venus as the eternal travelers. Because

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of Venus's sonotic cycle, she spends part of her cycle

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as the evening star, and then she dips below the

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horizon for about forty days, and forty days is also

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significant biblically speaking. Jesus refers to himself as the bright

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morning Star because she spends part of her time as

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a morning star and part of her time as an

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evening star. So when you hear references to an evening

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star and the morning star, they're both Venus. Venus has

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that polar duality as well, so in the morning star

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and evening star were also sacred to the Native Americans.

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the bright morning Star, he is talking about this integration

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as well with the feminine and the divine counterpart of

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the Sun. Well, actually, where we get the term star

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cross lovers, this is really going back to Venus in

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the sun because they never quite catch each other during

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this whole synotic cycle of Venus. It seems like for

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part of the cycle, Venus is chasing the Sun and

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the other part of the cycle the Sun is chasing Venus,

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but they never catch each other. So it's a very

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poetic cycle that you see between the Sun and Venus.

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Speaker 1: But they were his husband and wife, you know, it's

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you know, when he's ready, she has a headache, you know,

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or something like that. When she's ready, his back's urt

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and for more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so exactly. Yeah. So this is one of

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those ancient beliefs and I guess very romantic synistries in

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the heavens that you see that I think is quite interesting.

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nanaar Isis and all these goddesses not only are considered

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mother goddesses and connected to creation, but primarily to death

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and resurrection. So it's not just Jesus that we see

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in Christianity that experiences this whole death and resurrection initiatory experience.

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This goes back to cults of the goddess as well.

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This whole idea of death and resurrection is really important

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because it's not about physical death. And this is where

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people get really hung up. And I try to explain this,

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and a lot of Christians get very offended when I explain.

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If you go into the Gnostic Gospels, for example, I

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believe it's in the Gospel of Philip where they're talking

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about inner union and the path to salvation. Essentially, one

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of the things that he explains is that you can't

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you can't be prepared for the afterlife and experience the

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after life if you have not yet experienced death and

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resurrection in your waking life. So what this means is

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that you must undergo true ego death and maybe multiple

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ones in your waking life, and through that ego death,

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you must then be resurrected with the understanding and the knowledge,

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the nosis, the inner knowing, and that's what nosis means.

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That's where gnostic comes from, is gnosis, This inner knowing,

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and the inner knowing is the intuition, and that's inherently feminine,

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believed in ancient cultures to always stem from feminine wisdom,

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from the Goddess herself, from the Mother. So nosis itself

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in origin is feminine. So this is where this idea

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of death and resurrection has been very misconstrued throughout time itself.

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And this is also why the idea of death and

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resurrection has been so important to ancient cultures around the world.

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It wasn't about a physical resurrection from the afterlife or

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dying and coming back to life, because it was a miracle.

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It was so much more profound than that. And when

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I came to realize this, this changed the way that

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I perceived the story of Jesus and the death and

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Resurrection because he's trying to show his followers this whole

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understanding of death and resurrection and the miracle behind it,

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because it's not again, it's not about the external miracle

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of death and resurrection. It's about what's happening in here,

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and the followers weren't quite understanding. And one of the

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things that Jesus says is when he's talking about how

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to find the kingdom of his Father, he says, the

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kingdom is not over there. It's not out here. Not

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over there, You're not going to find it if you

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go looking over there, You're going to find it in here.

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The kingdom is within. The keys to the Kingdom are within.

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And I believe he says this in the actual Bible

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as well. I don't remember exactly where, but I'll have

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to double check that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, don't you know the spirit of God?

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You know, Doyle's within you.

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Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, the power of God is Yes. So this

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is where a lot of times the Roman Catholic Church

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of course, had put a monopoly on that later because

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you needed to go and pay your tithes and speak

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through the bishop the priest to get to God. There

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was a route you had to go to in order

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to talk to God. You couldn't just have your direct

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relationship with deity. But Jesus came along and had taught

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people you don't need to go to the tabernacle, you

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don't need to go to the temple. You can speak

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to God directly on your own. You can have your

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own relationship with the divine And so this whole inner

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union idea that he's talking about is very, very profound

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because it's been completely erased from the modern Bible, and

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they make it much more focused on the patriarchal views

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because they were building essentially a business, the Roman Catholic Church,

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you have to look at as a business. They weren't

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building a religion to save people. They were building a

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business so that they could control people and make money.

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They were building a way of making money but also

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controlling the masses. So they were killing two birds with

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one stone. This was not about doing the good work

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of Jesus Christ and saving the masses and bringing them

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to salvation. Because when it comes to salvation, Jesus very

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clearly teaches that salvation is found within, it's not found externally,

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and when he's teaching about this, one of the things

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that is said in regards to union and separation. So

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for example, we're before we have that inner union of

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the masculine and feminine, of mother and father, of the

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dualities that dwell in the world, we're living in separation,

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and separation is illusion, right, so one could say that,

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you know, the idea that we're living imbalanced if with

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someone as living too much in their masculine energy or

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too much in their feminine energy. These are the ideas

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that Jesus was talking about. By needing to integrate the

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feminine and the masculine, by healing your wounds, by healing

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your traumas, by learning to not be triggered by the

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things that happen around us, by releasing that need to control,

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because control and the need to control is very much

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a masculine, a masculine need, Whereas, for example, the feminine

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polarities that are different would be to be more in

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your receptacle mode, where you're able to receive and sit

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back and wait for things to happen. So there's a

478
00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:22,720
certain balance that needs to be held. The feminine is

479
00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:25,640
more in touch with the emotion, right but there's also

480
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,480
a certain balance you have to have because if you're

481
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,000
two in your feminine and you're reacting from a place

482
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,880
of emotions constantly, you're not able to be in your logos,

483
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,400
in your logic, whereas the masculine dwells much more in

484
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,720
the logic. So there has to be that inner balance,

485
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,079
and that's what he's explaining.

486
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:44,799
Speaker 2: Most days don't look like an emergency. That's why most

487
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:49,599
people never think about what they're carrying. We do because

488
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,400
preparedness isn't about looking the party, it's about being ready anyway.

489
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:58,759
Comfort isn't a luxury. It's what keeps you moving when

490
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:02,799
the day goes long than planned. That's why every Squatch

491
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,039
Survival pack is made here start to finish. Squatch builds

492
00:30:07,119 --> 00:30:10,319
packs for people who don't assume the day will stay

493
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:15,640
easy through Garup Mothman. Built to last your missions and

494
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:20,319
be passed down when you're done. Squatch survival gear ready

495
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,400
for the next one.

496
00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: But one of the other things that he is talking

497
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,400
about in this integration, one of the other interesting quotes

498
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:34,839
was when e was still an atom, death did not exist.

499
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,119
When she was separated from him. Death came into being

500
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:44,000
if she enters into him again and he receives her

501
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:49,160
death will be no more. So he's not saying that

502
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:50,519
she literally needs to.

503
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,559
Speaker 1: Go back in which gospel was that from Hayley?

504
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: Let me double check. I have a bunch of quotes

505
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,440
that is pulled.

506
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:01,079
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, it's okay.

507
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: Atom Apocalypse of Atom. Yeah, so, uh, this is where

508
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,799
in the Apocalypse of Atom it mentions this and where

509
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:14,880
what this is trying to say, though, is not a

510
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,160
physical uh need to put Eve back into Atom, But

511
00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:23,119
this is talking about the illusion of separation and the

512
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,720
need for reunion. And this is using even adam as

513
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:30,240
the original principles of the feminine and the masculine that

514
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:32,400
were created right, this is where the idea of the

515
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,680
first feminine the first masculine comes into play. And so

516
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,240
what they's what he's saying with this is that when

517
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:44,640
you have the masculine the feminine separated, that's where death happens.

518
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:50,720
But whenever you bring them back together, this is where

519
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,799
true resurrection or eternal life can begin, because once you

520
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,960
integrate the soul into total wholeness, that's where you find

521
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:04,160
dro route to the afterlife, to heaven, to the divine.

522
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,880
And this is something that has not really been talked about.

523
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,680
I would say in the church. I attended church my

524
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:14,440
entire childhood, and I never once heard any talk about integration.

525
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:17,559
Whereas this is the true I think spiritual knowledge that

526
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:20,720
should be taught to people, not just these ideas of

527
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,200
right and wrong and these parables in the you know,

528
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,759
in the Bible. Now, Jesus did say at some point

529
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,079
that he had to speak in parables to the masses

530
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:32,279
because they weren't ready for the higher mysteries. They weren't

531
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:36,400
capable yet of understanding these deeper mysteries, these higher mysteries.

532
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:41,200
And going to back to the story of the creation,

533
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,000
the Gnostic creation story that he's telling John, and in

534
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,759
the Gnostic Gospel of the Apocryphon of John or the

535
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:50,079
Secret Book of John, which was very sacred. Might I

536
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:55,119
add to the medieval Cathars in southern France. In the Languadoc,

537
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,839
he explains that in these eons, Sorry I got way,

538
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,960
but we were talking about the number thirteen and why

539
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:08,240
it's sacred. But Sophia, who was created as the consort

540
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,440
to the Father, basically she was the counterpart to him,

541
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,039
and she dwelled in the thirteenth eon. So that is

542
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:18,720
very appropriate, right, knowing what we know about the divine

543
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:24,400
feminine Sophia is with the gnostic circles, the mother of wisdom.

544
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:29,839
She's the divine wisdom Sophia, and in the I believe,

545
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:34,079
she's also considered the wife of Solomon. And the fall

546
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,640
of Sophia is what comes next. And this is where

547
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,519
we get the idea of the material world from. So

548
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:42,920
we dwell here in the material world. Now, the medieval

549
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,799
Cathars in the south of France believed inherently in an

550
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:53,920
idea that everything had these sacred opposites and that we

551
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,880
were living in an evil, materialistic world that was presided

552
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,960
over by a materialistic, evil God. Now, this materialistic evil

553
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,640
God is Yahweh. This is the God from the Old

554
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,599
Testament that was angry, jealous, controlling this need to control everybody,

555
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:15,960
Whereas in the New Testament, the God that Jesus teaches

556
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,199
about is loving and acts from places of love and

557
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:26,199
forgiveness and compassion. These are two polar opposite understandings of God. Right,

558
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,480
so where are we getting this idea of this evil,

559
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:33,719
jealous God. From the reason that we have this evil,

560
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,840
jealous God is because of what happened at the fall

561
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:39,760
in the Gnostic creation story. So in the beginning, before

562
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,320
there was anything, before there was any physical realm, and

563
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,719
there was just the existence of nothing. There was the

564
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,519
thirteenth eons that are created, and in them there's different

565
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,199
emanations of creation. There's lots of them, So we'll stick

566
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,880
with just Sophia right now, because she's what important. There's chaos,

567
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,280
you know, there's thoughts, there's all kinds of different things

568
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,920
like this that are personified essentially, and these are basically

569
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,840
all the elements of consciousness, if you will, put into

570
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,880
different eons, but they're not physical, they're just conscious elements

571
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,880
of consciousness. So Sophia wisdom, she's also got her own

572
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,679
personification as Sophia, and she does something that she shouldn't do.

573
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,079
She decides that she wants to create, and so she creates,

574
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,599
but she does it without her partner. She does it

575
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,880
without her husband essentially, and she does it without the Father.

576
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,800
She is the Holy Mother, she is the wife of

577
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,400
God right for all intents and purposes. But she decides

578
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:50,000
to create a child, a son, if you will, but

579
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:56,760
without the permission and without the partnership of her companion.

580
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,920
And when this happens, this is what she secretly, She

581
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:05,280
secretly secretly creates this material world because she creates what

582
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,159
is known as y'all do both. And this is who

583
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,480
ends up being Yahweh. And he ends up creating these

584
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,159
many demons and arkans and all these other evil entities

585
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:20,920
that dwell in the material world to serve him. And

586
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
when she realizes that he is evil and he is

587
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,519
causing all of these evil things to happen, he creates

588
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:33,159
people then to worship him because he's got these intentions

589
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:37,079
of wanting to be powerful, these this need to be powerful. Basically,

590
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:40,760
he represents all of the negative sides of humanity, the

591
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,159
unintegrated sides of humanity, if you will. This is a

592
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:49,079
lesson in understanding the unintegrated aspects of mankind. Understanding that

593
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,000
man the shadow side of man. If he's not integrated,

594
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:56,000
if he doesn't choose to go down the spiritual path,

595
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,639
this is what will happen, and there become power hungry people,

596
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,760
right they abuse people. There's a very different story which

597
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,679
I'm not going to go into right now, about Adam

598
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,559
and Eve that Jesus tells in the Gnostic creation story.

599
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,400
It's not at all what's like in genesis very very different,

600
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:18,599
and when the consort of Sophia finds out what happens,

601
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,079
she's punished and she has this fall from grace. Right,

602
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,320
but she does put within the people that dwell in

603
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,440
the material world. She puts within the mall what's called

604
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,320
the divine spark. And this divine spark that's within all

605
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,320
of humanity is this g nosis, this understanding, or this

606
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,360
intuition to return to the divine, to our origins, to

607
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,039
return to her, to return to the very beginning.

608
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,159
Speaker 1: Right, So it's ten right mirror that. Right, there was

609
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,400
ten divine sparks or ten emanations.

610
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: Of the so it depends on For one, there's I'm sorry, yeah,

611
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,960
I got mix story of creation. There's several different aspects

612
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,920
that you could be looking at, so there's different eons,

613
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:14,280
there's different emanations of I guess, the thoughts that surround consciousness,

614
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,760
and there's different levels of being, so you could you

615
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,719
could spend all day separating these things and going into them.

616
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:24,199
And there's also a couple different streams of narcissism itself.

617
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,400
There's Valentinian nacissism, and then there's a couple others as well, So.

618
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: Like Christianity, there's two hundred and something different flavors, you know,

619
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,960
or probably a lot more.

620
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 3: Than that, but yeah, yeah, So the main the main

621
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,400
point though amongst all these stories is that Sophia experiences

622
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,119
this fall from grace, but that the fall wasn't failure.

623
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:46,199
And this is the point that's meant to be understood.

624
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,480
But this is the Divine choosing to experience itself in

625
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:53,719
the form of the material because prior to this everything

626
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,880
existed in perfect harmony. There was no there was no

627
00:38:58,039 --> 00:39:04,079
inherent evil force or or negative thing impacting this consciousness

628
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:08,119
that existed. It was purely divine in origin and in existence.

629
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,320
It wasn't until Sophia, the Feminine, much like Eve and

630
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,800
the traditional story we hear, creates this child, this god,

631
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,480
y'all did both yahweh who becomes the evil creator god

632
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,880
of the material world. So she is responsible for the

633
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,920
lower realm of the material world that we are now

634
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,440
living in being created. But what this does and what

635
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,760
the story is supposed to represent to us, is not

636
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,679
that she she messed up and she created something evil,

637
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:44,360
but rather she chose to create something physical for the

638
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,559
Divine to experience itself through. So you know, we've all

639
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:52,039
heard the phrase that we are the universe experiencing itself.

640
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:56,760
And this is very appropriate in terms of talking about

641
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,840
the Gnostic creation story, because this is literally what it's

642
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,679
telling us about. It's talking about how these aspects of

643
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,199
the divine that already existed then came to the lower

644
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:13,719
realms and now are experiencing what it means to be

645
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,599
human to be in the material, materialistic realm. And how

646
00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:21,679
now we all have that divine spark which is part

647
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,559
of the original divine and we have to find that

648
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,760
return that I guess assent back to the divine. And

649
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:35,119
with that said, going back to this idea of the fall,

650
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,639
this is I think where we get these ideas in

651
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,039
all these ancient cultures. There's a certain remembrance within us,

652
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,239
and all these ancient ideas of the goddess and this

653
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,360
death and resurrection. It's not an accident. These all have

654
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,199
similar flavors. So this is much like Sophia. Also, she

655
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,760
ends up going back and she makes amends and she's

656
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,119
restored to her place eventually, So she ends up being

657
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:05,639
resurrected through her own means of making amends with the

658
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:10,559
other emanations of creation there. And so what ends up

659
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:13,920
happening in the other stories around the world that are

660
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,159
created through religion is they're related more so to Venus.

661
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,039
And this is also, I think a deeper sacred remembrance

662
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,840
of something more primordial, because everybody in these ancient religions,

663
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:33,840
well I shouldn't say everybody, but these ancient cultures that

664
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,719
identify the goddess as being the route to salvation because

665
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:45,280
she undergoes this tremendous death and resurrection ritual. It's a

666
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,719
very similar notion. So we have Inana who goes through

667
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,599
to the underworld and she's taken there and basically spends

668
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:58,119
all these days there. She's stripped of her garments, she's

669
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:03,400
going down, and eventually she ends up being humiliated, and

670
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,880
her sister's there and has led her down to what

671
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:10,199
ends up almost being her death, and then she's once

672
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,599
again resurrected and restored. So these stories of the descent

673
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:18,480
into the underworld as the Goddess as the feminine mirror

674
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:22,920
the story of wisdom of Sophia and her descent into

675
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,880
the material realm and undergoing this horror, this humiliation, if

676
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,320
you will, but then this restoration back to the divine

677
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,639
harmony of the universe. An Egyptian, this would be Matt.

678
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:42,559
Matt m a apostrophe at so Matt would be the

679
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:44,920
harmony of the universe, the laws of the harmony of

680
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,039
the universe, the cosmos, everything being back in its perfect

681
00:42:48,039 --> 00:42:51,039
working order, if you will. And so this is one

682
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:54,719
of those parts of the goddess that is so important

683
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,519
because the goddess represents not just love and light and

684
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,559
motherhood and all of this, but it represents the descent

685
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:05,760
into the chaos and coming out of the darkness. And

686
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,559
this is where the idea of death and resurrection with

687
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:13,039
Jesus ties into the integration of the feminine. And this

688
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:14,920
is I think why the feminine has always been so

689
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,440
closely associated with darkness, because this goes back to primordial

690
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,320
creation and that understanding that before the Father came into

691
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,239
creation or into existence, it was always that darkness that

692
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:33,280
feminine and the womb itself is complete and utter darkness

693
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,639
within women. When babies are in the womb, it's it's

694
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:40,119
a dark void right before they're born, and it's a

695
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:44,400
watery void of darkness that they're existing in. And it's

696
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,079
the same thing where we go into caves. Ancient cultures

697
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:53,239
would use these caves as ritual spaces to initiate people

698
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,559
in because these caves represented the womb of the earth.

699
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,800
These womb spaces were so important to the ai because

700
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,639
of that, because they needed to be born again with

701
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,159
the eyes to see, or resurrected from the depths of darkness.

702
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,239
And the darkness was always tied to the feminine for

703
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,880
these reasons, and that's why the whole idea of separation.

704
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,599
Masculine is associated with light and the femin's always been

705
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:22,239
associated with darkness. So the path of the feminine, the

706
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,239
path of the goddess, is not just about love and light.

707
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,239
It's about darkness and descent and chaos and coming out

708
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,400
of it restored, coming out of it enlightened, if you will,

709
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,440
and that's the true integration. I think there was a

710
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,639
couple other there was a couple of other quotes that

711
00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:44,239
I wanted to discuss, but this is really how the

712
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,000
soul becomes whole again. And the idea of divine union

713
00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:52,039
plays a role in this because obviously we see Jesus

714
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:56,039
and Mary Magdalene too, representing not just the path to

715
00:44:56,559 --> 00:45:00,000
inner union and wholeness, but we see them acting as

716
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:04,719
divine counterparts externally as well. And one of the things

717
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:09,800
that's talked about in the Pistas Sophia. Have you heard

718
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,719
of the Pissy Sophia at all? Okay, so there's one

719
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,679
cool thing about the Pistas Sophia. One of the interesting

720
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:20,079
elements of it is that it actually talks about Jesus

721
00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:26,559
preaching to his followers eleven years after the crucifixion. Okay,

722
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,679
so anyway, that's another rabbit hole. But there is some

723
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,440
evidence that Jesus did not in fact die at the

724
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,159
crucifixion because it wasn't meant to be a physical death.

725
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,199
It was so much more than that. But that's another

726
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:44,320
rabbit hole. So in the Pistas Sophia, it's again talking

727
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,599
about from Sophia's perspective. She says, I went down into

728
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:52,400
the chaos, and I was in the darkness in the

729
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,400
midst of it. So again talking about the path to

730
00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:59,679
enlightenment being about going descending into the darkness, and then

731
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,159
learning to come out of that, learning to integrate, learning

732
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:08,000
how to sit with yourself in the darkness. It's like

733
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:12,119
in freemasonry, for example, the Chamber of Reflection is a

734
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:15,239
perfect example of this. The chamber of reflection is a

735
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,360
chamber that's dark. There might be a candle in there

736
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:22,119
and a skull to reminds you of mortality in your

737
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:24,960
time on the earth, or even maybe to represent the

738
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:27,599
heading of John the Baptist and represent him. But the

739
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:32,400
skull is also a reminder. Sometimes in ancient cultures it

740
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,719
was used as an oracle or a way to communicate

741
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,000
with the dead, but typically in the chamber of reflection,

742
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:41,559
it was meant to remind us of our time on

743
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:44,760
this earth and that life is short. So in the

744
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,599
chamber of reflection, this was a much smaller version of

745
00:46:49,639 --> 00:46:52,320
a more ancient practice of having to sit in the

746
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,800
darkness with one's self to reflect. And so this is

747
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:01,039
the same same idea because sitting in the darkness by yourself,

748
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:06,000
and in much more ancient traditions, you'd probably be stuck

749
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:09,519
in there for a few days. And so, for example,

750
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:13,760
there was in Tamar, Portugal, there is a chamber that

751
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,360
was used where templars would be lowered into it and

752
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,679
left in there for three days with a little bit

753
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,280
of bread and maybe some water. But if they cried

754
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,079
out and wanted out of it before the three days

755
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:27,920
was up, they were not initiated. So this was a

756
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,119
very important part of this tradition is being able to

757
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:35,000
sit with one's thoughts and one's emotions and learning how

758
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:37,599
to be comfortable with that. Also, sitting in the darkness

759
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:41,559
for that long leads to you know, hallucinations and other

760
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,440
other things that are quite scary, so that that eternal

761
00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:48,599
darkness can can be quite daunting, but it's part of

762
00:47:48,639 --> 00:47:53,840
the path to enlightenment, to too full, to wholeness with

763
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,360
the spirit.

764
00:47:55,119 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. It's like I think it was methro cult

765
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:02,519
or whatever. They had the same kind of thing. They'd

766
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:04,880
go into the caves and I think they had nine

767
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,039
stages they had to go through and then you had

768
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:11,599
the whole what was it, the path of a loos

769
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:13,079
how you were that.

770
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: To Also in the templar tradition, there was the Anocchian

771
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,519
legend of the nine arches, so even like, for example,

772
00:48:21,519 --> 00:48:24,880
in Tomorrow, there was nine nine arches that you would

773
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,719
walk under the initiate would pass under before being lowered

774
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,400
into the chamber in the ground.

775
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,159
Speaker 1: Okay, eleusis the path of Eleusis And ancient Greece they

776
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:37,559
would take that. Yeah, they'd take that psychedelic drink and

777
00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:39,519
go on this you know, journey or whatever and go

778
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:42,639
through the abyss and what was it that quote they said,

779
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:49,119
to live you first, you us first, practice the art

780
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:51,880
of dying, or something like that exactly.

781
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 3: That's that's key, It's imperative, and that's why in the

782
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,519
Gospel of Philip they really emphasized the fact that you

783
00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:00,840
must undergo death and resurrection in this life before you

784
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:03,360
can make it to the afterlife, because if you don't,

785
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:06,679
and he explicitly states this, if you don't experience death

786
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:10,039
and resurrection in this life, then you won't experience the

787
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:15,039
afterlife at all. There's nothing for you there. So yeah,

788
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:17,519
this is I think where the most important part of

789
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:20,800
the divine feminine comes into play that's so overlooked. Is

790
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,360
it's not just about, you know, the sensuality and the

791
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,199
beauty and all this of the divine feminine, because the

792
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,000
other side of the divine feminine, the important part, the

793
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:34,519
integrative part of the divine feminine, is the raw, messy

794
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,840
shadow aspect of self. That is the true darkness that

795
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,800
we've seen, you know, the duality of this being both

796
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,800
holy being, both whore being, both first and last, the

797
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,159
alpha and the omega. And one other thing I want

798
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:52,119
to tie us back to is when Jesus says, I

799
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:53,880
am the Alpha and Omega, I am the beginning in

800
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,320
the end. One of the things that Shakti is said

801
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,320
to be going back to creation, going back to the

802
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,280
Hindu beliefs as well, Shockti the goddess is said to

803
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,119
have been very much the same thing. I believe she

804
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:11,119
also was said to have been the very beginning in

805
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:13,840
the very end. There is this very similar quote written

806
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,079
somewhere about this in the text about Shokti, but I'd

807
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:18,880
have to look it back up. I quoted it in

808
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,079
my book, but yeah, it was quite fascinating. And there

809
00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:25,800
is another thing that Jesus said in the Secret Book

810
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,280
of John. Let me pull it up real quick. I

811
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,920
have my book right here. Yes, So in the Secret

812
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:36,960
Book of John, Jesus says, when talking about creation and

813
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,119
how she came first and how everything came to be,

814
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,800
he says, she is the universal womb. She is before everything.

815
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,039
And so this is confirming the idea that everything stemmed

816
00:50:50,039 --> 00:50:54,280
from this dark void, from darkness. From darkness is where

817
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,519
everything can build from and become light, because without one

818
00:50:57,679 --> 00:50:59,559
you can't have the other. If there was no sense

819
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:01,599
of darkness, you would never have light. If there is

820
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:05,000
no evil, we would never know what good is. And

821
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:07,599
I think, actually, right here is where I in the

822
00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:11,039
book is where I talk about the alpha the omega.

823
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:15,320
So here in my book, I'm talking about the Adi.

824
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,480
Shakti is the primordial and conceivable energy, the supreme being

825
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:21,679
they would call God, except that Shakti is in fact

826
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:25,840
considered the divine feminine. She's the goddess. She is considered infinite,

827
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:28,519
she is called a nadi, and she's said to have

828
00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:34,920
no beginning and no end. So this is simply forever Nietzschya.

829
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:41,639
So perhaps Jesus himself embodied Shakti and taught it. Could

830
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:43,960
this be why he called himself the alpha and omega

831
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:46,679
the beginning in the end. So I think that this

832
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,840
is where a lot of these traditions come from. Because

833
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,639
to integrate the divine Mother, which Shakti was, and the

834
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:58,360
divine Father. We're not talking about the old God Yahweh

835
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,559
that's in the Bible, because that God is down here.

836
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:04,960
The God that Jesus is teaching is androgynous. This is

837
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,159
a dual gendered God because if we're created in God's image,

838
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,239
then God has to be both mother and father, male

839
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,920
and female. There was Obviously when we were created, there's

840
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,800
a split, there's a separation, and this separation is considered

841
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:26,199
to be both the physical manifestation and an internal manifestation. Again,

842
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,159
so that's why when this external sacred union happens with

843
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:33,079
male and female and ancient cultures, the idea of hero

844
00:52:33,159 --> 00:52:37,880
scamos or holy marriage was so sacred, and hero scamos

845
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,880
was essentially sacred sex. You know. That's why tantric sex

846
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,199
was so sacred because it was considered a route to God,

847
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,239
because divine union, bringing back male and female into one,

848
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,960
was the closest way of reaching God. Essentially, it was

849
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:56,039
merging two souls, the masculine and the feminine, which brought

850
00:52:56,119 --> 00:53:00,880
us back to what our creator truly was. Jesus says

851
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:04,920
also in one of the Gnostic gospels, and I think

852
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,880
this is in Philip or Thomas. Let me see, I

853
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,559
have it right here. He says, when you make the

854
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:17,000
two into one, wait, I have another one. First, I'd

855
00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:20,159
like to say, in the Gospel of Philip, he's talking

856
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:23,800
about the bridal chamber, and the mystery of marriage is great.

857
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:28,480
It is the holy of holies. But in Gnostic thought,

858
00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:31,440
union isn't just relational it's cosmic and it's how the

859
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,000
soul becomes whole. As I've said a few times, so

860
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:37,920
it's talking about both inner marriage but also external marriage.

861
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,599
So in alchemy, it's the alchemical marriage and the tarot deck,

862
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:43,800
it's the lover's card, how they gaze at each other.

863
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:50,559
It's that integration. And this ideology of external union and

864
00:53:50,639 --> 00:53:54,000
internal union is used throughout all the Nastic Gospels, but

865
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,320
specifically Philip because also the idea of this deep seated

866
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,320
love is really really important. It's almost this cosmic level

867
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,920
of love from a soul, a soul level. Yeah, so

868
00:54:07,199 --> 00:54:09,559
I was sorry. I was trying to find the other,

869
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,400
the other one. It's the feminine figure Sophia and Mary

870
00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:18,400
that really reveal what's hidden to within within these texts.

871
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,199
Mary is the one that is receiving all this hidden

872
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,239
knowledge from Jesus, whereas the disciples are resenting her for this.

873
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,880
Why why is it that the teacher is sharing this

874
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,719
with her? And that's one of the one of the

875
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,719
disciples complains to another, but the Savior reveals to her

876
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,559
because she understands. She has the eyes to see in

877
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:41,719
the the the gnosis, the inner knowing, and Jesus says

878
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,639
multiple times to his disciples, you don't understand. You think

879
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:47,960
that you know God, you think that you have have

880
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:51,719
it figured out, but you don't. And so it's it's

881
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:58,519
a really interesting comparison between Mary Magdalen and the disciples,

882
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:00,920
because even in the Pisto Sophia, as I was mentioning,

883
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,199
where they appear eleven years after the crucifixion, they're still

884
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,400
they're still like berating Mary, basically because Mary is asking

885
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,159
all these questions to Jesus. And one of the male

886
00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:16,199
disciples says, why does she get to ask all these questions?

887
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:21,239
And Jesus responds and said, because she's most raised amongst

888
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:26,039
all the brethren. And it's a very interesting way for

889
00:55:26,159 --> 00:55:29,559
Jesus to throw shade back at the boys essentially. And

890
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:31,920
another part another thing that Jesus says that I think

891
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,119
is really interesting when talking about this integration, and there's

892
00:55:36,119 --> 00:55:38,719
so many different Nassic gospels, but I think it was

893
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,719
Pista Sophia. I could be wrong, but one of the

894
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:46,119
things that he says is that essentially, in order to

895
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:50,159
become whole, we all start out as female, but that

896
00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:55,280
once we become whole, we are then called male. So

897
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,280
at the beginning of our spiritual journey, we all start

898
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,840
out as female and then become male by the end

899
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,599
of it, once we're whole. So this is kind of

900
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:10,119
an interesting idea because even even in Freemasonry and co Masonry,

901
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:15,880
the female Freemasons are referred to as brother still. Yet

902
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,679
so Mary would be still referred to as brother once

903
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,480
she is integrated, if you will. So this is I guess.

904
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: Something as when I ask, I remember one of those

905
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,639
texts saying something about Jesus was talking to them and saying,

906
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,920
you know, basically no woman will enter Heaven. Is that

907
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,559
kind of what it was talking about there?

908
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, because this is talking about integration. This is

909
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,239
talking about becoming whole before you enter the kingdom. And

910
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,320
this is precisely where he's going down that path, and

911
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,320
he's not being at all sexists. He is saying that. Essentially,

912
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:53,519
It's like I'm trying to think in other languages, for example,

913
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:58,079
if you're talking about both male and female, for example,

914
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,760
in Spanish for example, if you're if you're referring to

915
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,960
they as both male and female collectively, you would use

916
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,159
a term that's masculine, right, Okay, So this is the

917
00:57:10,159 --> 00:57:14,440
same thing in most languages, and and it's it's hard

918
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:15,880
for us to kind of fathom in English because it's

919
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,920
slightly different the way that our words are structured, because

920
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,079
they're not all they. The word they is not explicitly

921
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:24,760
masculine for us, right, But in other words other languages,

922
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,599
they all do have a feminine masculine origin. So in

923
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:33,920
this case, when you become male, your whole and so

924
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:38,360
when God is, God is God. But God is made

925
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,800
up of both the feminine and the masculine elements. And

926
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,239
if we go back to Egypt, for example, and we

927
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,159
look at Pharaoh Acinatin, and he is the one that

928
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,719
changed religion on its head, completely changed it on its head.

929
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,360
And we're talking about this is during the Armana period.

930
00:57:55,719 --> 00:58:00,280
They're known as the Sun Kings. This is around the

931
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,159
the Bronze Age. So I'm guessing I'm trying to remember

932
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:07,880
exactly when would have been somewhere between twelve hundred to

933
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,599
fourteen hundred BC. I believe I can't remember exact years,

934
00:58:11,639 --> 00:58:15,519
but around this time period he then begins portraying himself

935
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:22,000
as having both breasts and wide hips, but also being masculine.

936
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,800
So all these depictions of.

937
00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:26,639
Speaker 1: Pharaoh of the I've never noticed that.

938
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, because he's depicting himself as being both male

939
00:58:31,559 --> 00:58:33,639
and female. Because the Pharaoh is meant to be God,

940
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,960
and when he changed the religion from being polytheistic to monotheistic,

941
00:58:39,519 --> 00:58:43,639
the Aten the sun disk now has to personify all

942
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:48,280
gods and one. So personifying all gods and one means

943
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,599
that he has to be feminine and masculine. Now some

944
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:57,159
people propose, well, maybe Akinaton was actually hermaphrodite. You know,

945
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,440
I think that's a bit out there. We don't know that.

946
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't so I had that elongated skull, that's what

947
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,440
something that's always fascinated me with his depictions.

948
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:11,639
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's another interesting aspect of Akinatin in his family.

949
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,400
But I do believe with the with the hips, with

950
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:20,880
the breasts, and even his thick thighs are shown and depicted.

951
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:24,159
Speaker 1: Child barren hips. As they say, Yes.

952
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 3: He was explicitly depicted as being feminine but masculine as well.

953
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,320
So this was because he had to portray himself to

954
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,239
the Egyptian people as God, because the Pharaohs were considered

955
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,159
the incarnation of God on earth to their people.

956
00:59:40,119 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: With the price of eggs and bread. Slowly approaching a

957
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,840
day's wages, it's more important than ever than to secure

958
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,280
the value of your dollar. One thing that has remained

959
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,280
steady is gold and silver throughout the ages. Back in

960
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,199
Roman times, a piece of gold would get you a

961
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,840
toga that's the equivalent of three thousand dollars today. That

962
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,280
still remains true to this day. For a full suit

963
01:00:08,519 --> 01:00:12,719
shoes tie, you're looking at about three thousand dollars because

964
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,880
gold and silver holds its value. So if you're tired

965
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,760
of watching the value of your dollar go down every

966
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,119
single day, it's time to get off your hands and

967
01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:29,400
make a move. I recently teamed with Cornerstone Asset Metals.

968
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:32,960
Reach out to those guys for all of your financial needs.

969
01:00:33,159 --> 01:00:37,599
It's time to trade in that forever devaluing dollar into

970
01:00:37,639 --> 01:00:40,880
hard assets that you can hold like gold and silver.

971
01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:43,039
Be sure and check the link down in the description

972
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,039
or the number on the screen, and hey, tell them

973
01:00:46,039 --> 01:00:46,880
Doc Brown sent't you?

974
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:52,199
Speaker 3: And this is where I think this adaptation in Egypt

975
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,320
began where I cannot really truly got this idea of

976
01:00:56,519 --> 01:01:00,840
the God being dual gendered and being I'm on atheistic god,

977
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,519
I'm not sure. But another another possibility which we don't

978
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:09,400
have tons of evidence for this, but Tutmosis, that was

979
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,440
allegedly Acinaton's brother, has been in some in some cases

980
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:20,800
associated with biblical Moses. Now it's possible that Biblical Moses

981
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:26,000
could have been the Pharaoh's brother because in the Bible

982
01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:30,320
it explicitly says that he's the brother of pharaohs and

983
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:35,719
that he was raised in Egypt and Egyptian corked. So

984
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:41,239
there's all kinds of elements and suggestions that could indicate

985
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:46,880
that Moses was indeed Acinaton's brother. So what this would mean,

986
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:50,599
and this could indicate why Ocnaughton chose to change the

987
01:01:50,599 --> 01:01:57,119
Egyptian religion from polytheism to monotheism. So Tutmosis would have

988
01:01:57,199 --> 01:02:01,679
been the high priest of taw. This would have been

989
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,000
he would have been permitted to carry the arc with

990
01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:07,480
the laws in it. So this would have been why

991
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:11,639
Moses was the law bearer. He was the law giver right,

992
01:02:11,719 --> 01:02:14,599
the father of the laws. And when he leads his

993
01:02:14,639 --> 01:02:18,559
people out of Egypt. It doesn't exactly stray from the

994
01:02:18,639 --> 01:02:22,480
Egyptian timeline of Tutmosis either, because Tutmosis disappears from the

995
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,360
Egyptian records as well. So there's some timelines that don't

996
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,039
quite add up, but there's some other things that really

997
01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:33,760
suggest a connection here. But this would be a plausible

998
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:39,119
explanation for why Acinatin decided to change the religion from

999
01:02:39,159 --> 01:02:42,440
being polytheistic to monotheistic if he had a brother that

1000
01:02:42,599 --> 01:02:48,440
was influenced perhaps by the ancient Hebraic traditions, and also

1001
01:02:48,639 --> 01:02:53,480
wanting to keep them somewhat Egyptian, but moving forward and

1002
01:02:53,480 --> 01:03:01,679
progressing in a way, perhaps that was more I guess may.

1003
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,039
Speaker 1: Basically how Rome did all the other countries. You know,

1004
01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:06,079
they called it the Hallenization. So by seeing these other

1005
01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:09,000
gods that was similar to the Roman gods, they said, oh, yeah,

1006
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,639
that's our god, and then they kind of molded them

1007
01:03:11,639 --> 01:03:14,239
together and made like the whole new pantheon.

1008
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but this didn't work out well for Acinaton

1009
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:23,239
as we as we know. Yeah yeah, but this is

1010
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:27,280
this is an interesting possibility for the origin of Akinnatan's

1011
01:03:28,119 --> 01:03:32,719
religious diversion and his potential brother being the biblical Moses.

1012
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,000
We don't know for certain, but it's an interesting possibility

1013
01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:40,880
and another element to the idea of a dual gendered

1014
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,719
god that is really interesting. Also, the word ab woun

1015
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:50,199
that's used in the Lord's Prayer indicates both the element

1016
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,119
of mother and Father. That that word itself has a

1017
01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:57,360
root meaning womb, so it could indicate whomb of God.

1018
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,639
I believe, if I'm recalling correctly, this is an the

1019
01:04:00,639 --> 01:04:03,679
Lord's Prayer that Jesus is reciting. So when we say

1020
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:10,480
when we're reciting the Lord's Prayer, it starts off as discussing,

1021
01:04:10,719 --> 01:04:14,760
you know, oh, Father Creator, but it really should be Mother,

1022
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,960
Father God instead of just Father Creator, because it's appealing

1023
01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:25,039
to the both genders of God, the duality of God,

1024
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,519
and the other parts of There's so much to say

1025
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:30,880
in the Gnostic Gospels, but Jesus goes on to talk

1026
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:35,440
about He explicitly states that the Holy Spirit is the Mother.

1027
01:04:35,719 --> 01:04:39,199
The Holy Spirit is barbelow. She is this, she is pure,

1028
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,320
she is the Virgin, and she is she is the

1029
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:45,400
Hohrror of Babylon. She is all these things, and she

1030
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,760
can be all these things that wants. A woman can

1031
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,840
be both. And the question is that I have today,

1032
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,360
why is it that all of these parts of the

1033
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,800
Gnostic Gospels and of Jesus's teachings, why were they cut

1034
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,280
out from traditional Christianity? The only thing I can imagine

1035
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,320
is because this is the true route to salvation, and

1036
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,599
this is the true route to God, and the Catholic

1037
01:05:10,679 --> 01:05:14,800
Church didn't really want people to experience salvation or God.

1038
01:05:17,079 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: One thing too, is you had so much confusion at

1039
01:05:20,039 --> 01:05:22,599
the time. You know, I've talked about this with certain people.

1040
01:05:23,679 --> 01:05:27,159
It's like you had this new religion, the Christian faith,

1041
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:31,000
you know, stemming out of Judaism, and you had the

1042
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:33,760
writings of the New Testament circulating around, and you didn't

1043
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,480
have a Bible. You just had all these different scrolls

1044
01:05:36,519 --> 01:05:39,840
floating around, so some people might accept certain ones and

1045
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,840
others didn't. Uh, So there was really no set standard.

1046
01:05:44,679 --> 01:05:48,039
So you had a sect of people that held to

1047
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,519
the physicality, and then you had a sect of people

1048
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:54,760
like they are looking at from the perspective that you

1049
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,800
are talking about today, and it was kind of this

1050
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:02,320
this real muddy water. So they wanted to set a

1051
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,880
standard basically, so when they created their Bible, they were

1052
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,960
setting the standard for their sect because they wanted to,

1053
01:06:08,519 --> 01:06:11,920
you know, separate themselves from that sect. So it was

1054
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,079
just one of those things. It was just so much

1055
01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:18,199
stuff floating around. It was kind of mass confusion, and

1056
01:06:18,239 --> 01:06:20,920
you can imagine a new believer that's never even heard,

1057
01:06:21,639 --> 01:06:23,440
you know, of the Christian faith. But then you have

1058
01:06:23,559 --> 01:06:26,920
somebody over here telling you, you know, no, it's spiritual,

1059
01:06:27,079 --> 01:06:29,559
it's you know, it's about enlightenment. Then you have some

1060
01:06:29,559 --> 01:06:32,719
people over here, no, it's physical. He really died and

1061
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,760
you know, and raised from the dead. So there was

1062
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,280
just so much confusion, you know, because there was no

1063
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,599
set standard. So they just that sect was just happened

1064
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:44,400
to be the first one to set their standard.

1065
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there was a lot floating around at

1066
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,320
the time. And again, you know, what most people don't

1067
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:56,039
realize is what is frustrating to me is trying to

1068
01:06:56,039 --> 01:06:59,199
have conversations with people that are have been raised Christian

1069
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,079
and are just taught to at their core believe this

1070
01:07:03,239 --> 01:07:05,239
is the word of God, this is what God said.

1071
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:10,119
Whereas the Bible was not actually created until the third

1072
01:07:10,159 --> 01:07:14,440
century a d. And till three hundred and something at

1073
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,559
the Council of Nicea, And it was when a bunch

1074
01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:18,559
of as I always say, a bunch of grumpy old

1075
01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:21,840
men set around a table and decided what books should

1076
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,599
be put in the Bible and what books shouldn't, what's acceptable,

1077
01:07:24,639 --> 01:07:27,599
what is going to help create our narrative and stick

1078
01:07:27,639 --> 01:07:30,920
to that narrative, you know, And that's what they ended

1079
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,960
up going with. And of course the Gnostic Gospels didn't

1080
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,760
make it in there because that's too deep. This is

1081
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,719
going too deep for that. And I think that that

1082
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,159
stuff is so much more interesting. And for me, I

1083
01:07:45,239 --> 01:07:48,880
never resonated with the Biblical Christianity that we were taught

1084
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,480
growing up. But as I got older and I started

1085
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:56,239
reading the Gnostic Gospels, I felt much more close, I

1086
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,119
would say to Jesus, and I understood the teachings so

1087
01:07:59,239 --> 01:08:02,599
much more. And in retrospect now if I go back

1088
01:08:02,639 --> 01:08:04,239
and look at the Bible with the understanding of the

1089
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:07,000
Gnostic Gospels, it takes on a whole new meaning and

1090
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:09,400
I can understand it a lot more. But the Bible

1091
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,039
all on its own is just so surface level, I

1092
01:08:13,039 --> 01:08:17,920
would say. But that's been my experience, and I'm still

1093
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,960
learning every day. I'm still reading new Gnostic Gospels and

1094
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,159
reading new texts and everything else. So every day is

1095
01:08:24,159 --> 01:08:26,640
a learning experience for me. But I find all this

1096
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,720
extremely fascinating. And right now we're in the age of Aquarius,

1097
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,920
which is the cup bearer, the grail bearer. If you will.

1098
01:08:33,119 --> 01:08:36,479
So it's the return of the divine feminine, the return

1099
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,560
of lost knowledge, and so it's a fascinating era that

1100
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,760
we're living in just now. So I think there's going

1101
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:43,840
to be a lot more of this information to come

1102
01:08:44,039 --> 01:08:48,920
and a return to spirituality and a much different approach

1103
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:49,840
than there was before.

1104
01:08:51,159 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: That's one thing to John even talked about in Revelation.

1105
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,920
You know, he said in the end of days or whatever,

1106
01:08:57,039 --> 01:09:01,800
he said that I will were out my spirit upon

1107
01:09:02,039 --> 01:09:06,079
all flesh. And when Jesus was talking to his disciples,

1108
01:09:06,079 --> 01:09:09,479
he said I would be with you, and some English

1109
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,640
translations has it, you know, to the end of time,

1110
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,600
you know, and all this stuff. But he said Eon

1111
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,520
in the Greek he said, I'll be with you to

1112
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,840
the end of the e on the age, and that

1113
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,079
was the age of Pisce. So that I tell people,

1114
01:09:21,079 --> 01:09:23,600
I think, Nick he talks about that in Revelation. He's

1115
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,960
talking about Aquarius, the water bear, who's you know, depicted

1116
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,159
as pouring out the water the spirit onto the earth.

1117
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,399
And I completely understand what you're talking about, you know,

1118
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,359
the really rigid you know, Christians and stuff, because I

1119
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,880
talk a lot about Christianity, because I mean, I am

1120
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,600
a Christian, but I don't fit in that square peg.

1121
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,439
So I get a lot of flak from from Christians.

1122
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,319
And I've even said it many times on the show.

1123
01:09:54,880 --> 01:10:00,960
Christians are the worst, you know, as being judgmental and phariseic.

1124
01:10:01,119 --> 01:10:03,680
You know, But that's a very broad brush statement because

1125
01:10:04,079 --> 01:10:08,560
I'm under that label myself. But I'm very open minded person.

1126
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,359
I'm not so pompous to think that I have it

1127
01:10:11,399 --> 01:10:13,840
all figured out. I got more questions than I got answers.

1128
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:17,319
And you're never going to learn anything if you think

1129
01:10:17,359 --> 01:10:20,000
you got it all figured out and close your ears.

1130
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:22,720
You know, God gave us two years and one mouth

1131
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,760
for a reason. We're supposed to be listening twice as

1132
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:25,720
much as we're talking.

1133
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I couldn't agree more with thought.

1134
01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:34,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm a firm believer that there's micro cosms.

1135
01:10:34,319 --> 01:10:37,359
I say it all the time. There's macro and micro

1136
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,319
and macro cosms all through the Bible. I mean, if

1137
01:10:40,359 --> 01:10:43,760
you believe this is the word of God, uh, it's

1138
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,159
not just one dimensional. It's got it's I got onion,

1139
01:10:47,359 --> 01:10:53,119
it's got multiple layers. So yeah, I definitely appreciate you

1140
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:57,520
coming on talking and having this conversation and I hope

1141
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,159
that I did a good job because I didn't think, oh,

1142
01:11:00,279 --> 01:11:02,760
my card on the table to the end. I just

1143
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,880
sit back and heard you out and heard what you

1144
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,720
had to say and have a good conversation with you.

1145
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,119
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you know, once I get going, I'm hard

1146
01:11:10,119 --> 01:11:13,000
to shut me up. So yeah, no, thank you so

1147
01:11:13,079 --> 01:11:16,239
much for having me, and I thank you for being

1148
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:18,199
so open minded and listening to all of this as well,

1149
01:11:18,279 --> 01:11:21,960
because it's a very touchy topic sometimes, and you know,

1150
01:11:22,119 --> 01:11:25,920
myself being raised Christian as well, I think I've just

1151
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,600
always been very open minded. And I was that child

1152
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,800
at four years old in the church that was always

1153
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,600
asking our priest, well, if God created us, then who

1154
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,439
created God. I was always asking the hard questions growing up,

1155
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,239
and my priest would just say, well, you just have

1156
01:11:40,319 --> 01:11:43,199
to have faith, you just have to believe, and that

1157
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:45,359
that didn't do it for me. I wasn't convinced. So

1158
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,680
I always needed something, something deeper. I needed to search

1159
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,720
for something more. And in this path, it's brought me

1160
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,680
deeper into my spirituality and understanding of the divine because

1161
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,520
that's really what's all around us. And I think that

1162
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,239
also from a scientific perspect of you know, we were

1163
01:12:01,279 --> 01:12:05,920
talking about the Big Bang, the dark energy, dark matter.

1164
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,880
These are things that I think that as we come

1165
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,439
to understand them more and more will lead us to

1166
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,439
a scientific understanding of the divine as well.

1167
01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:18,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and once again I catch a lot of

1168
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,239
flat when I tell people I don't think there has

1169
01:12:20,279 --> 01:12:22,600
to be a hard line in the sand, not at all.

1170
01:12:23,359 --> 01:12:28,159
I think science is man's way of trying to understand

1171
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,119
and wrap his little mind around, you know, an infinite being.

1172
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,000
So you know, some people, the really rigid ones, say

1173
01:12:37,159 --> 01:12:38,960
the Big Bang is a big dud and you're a

1174
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,479
heretic for even talking about it. It's like, well, in

1175
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,279
our text it says in the beginning, you know, God said,

1176
01:12:44,319 --> 01:12:48,880
let there be light, I mean a big bang, something

1177
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:52,279
coming together, flash of light. Creation. To me, I mean,

1178
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that's the same thing. It's just told with different verbiage, right, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean the NaSTA Gospels it's essentially that same idea. But

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if there wasn't light already, that means there had to

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be darkness before. So there had to be something before that.

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And there's there's a it's a whole different way of

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01:13:09,399 --> 01:13:11,560
telling the story essentially. But you know the way that

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Jesus tells it is that there was nothing first, and

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then the Father becomes conscious or aware because of his

1186
01:13:17,319 --> 01:13:21,520
reflection of light in the darkness, and he almost says

1187
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,640
it like the way that the face of the Holy

1188
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,560
Spirit moves upon the waters. It's it's a very similar

1189
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phrasing to that. A bit different, but very similar. So

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I think that understanding these these parts that have been

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01:13:35,359 --> 01:13:40,479
pushed out of Christianity, especially too, because in Christianity it

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01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,960
says that all sin is bad, you know, all sin

1193
01:13:43,079 --> 01:13:45,479
is bad. You know, don't do these things or you're

1194
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,880
going to hell. It's it's very much a fear mongering religion,

1195
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,319
whereas Jesus is like, no, embrace the darkness, embrace your shadow,

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01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:57,840
sit with your shadow, and contemplate it, and then integrate it.

1197
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,880
It's it's a very different approach, you know, versus condemning,

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01:14:01,359 --> 01:14:05,640
let's say, condemning sexuality, condemning you know, these these things

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that make us human, these parts of our human experience. Yes,

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01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,039
we've messed up, We've done bad things, let's say, or

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01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:17,359
things that are considered deemed evil by other people, by

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01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:20,680
other religions. But Jesus is telling us Jesus was the

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01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,479
most nonjudgmental person, and he was telling us all to

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01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,600
sit and with those thoughts, with those feelings, with those behaviors,

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01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,359
how can we learn from them and how can we

1206
01:14:29,399 --> 01:14:33,199
integrate them? And in the Gnostic Gospels, there's another thing

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01:14:33,279 --> 01:14:36,039
that basically talks about how there is no sin. Jesus says,

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01:14:36,039 --> 01:14:39,399
there is no sin. It's a matter of essentially how

1209
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,960
you learn from it and integrate it. So it's you

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01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,039
only make it sin if you choose to, because it's

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01:14:46,079 --> 01:14:49,199
it's a matter of experience. Life is experiential and we're

1212
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:53,079
here to transcend the physical realm. We're here to move

1213
01:14:53,119 --> 01:14:58,079
beyond that after integration, after divine union. So anyway I could,

1214
01:14:58,079 --> 01:15:00,359
I could go on about about this topic for us,

1215
01:15:00,399 --> 01:15:03,239
but I'll save your ears the trouble.

1216
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:07,359
Speaker 1: Now, I enjoy the conversations. And that's the things we

1217
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,439
have to sit down and have these conversations. And I

1218
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:14,479
tell people, we all have pieces to the puzzle, and

1219
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:18,119
if we're not having these conversations and exchanging our puzzle pieces,

1220
01:15:18,159 --> 01:15:20,079
we're never going to figure out this thing that we

1221
01:15:20,199 --> 01:15:24,920
call life. And if we are closed minded. I hate

1222
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,079
to be an echo, but I'll echo it to the cows.

1223
01:15:27,079 --> 01:15:30,159
Come home. If we're closed minded and think we got

1224
01:15:30,199 --> 01:15:33,279
it all figured out, we're never going to learn anything new.

1225
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:38,600
And if I never had this conversation with you today,

1226
01:15:39,399 --> 01:15:43,079
I would have never gained this perspective. Listening to someone

1227
01:15:43,119 --> 01:15:46,640
else's perspective doesn't mean that you agree with it. It

1228
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,039
doesn't mean that they're wrong or you're right. You're just

1229
01:15:50,159 --> 01:15:54,359
exchanging ideas. And I learned quite a bit of stuff

1230
01:15:54,399 --> 01:15:56,640
today that I would not have learned if I did

1231
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,960
not have this conversation with you. So I appreciate this conversation,

1232
01:16:00,039 --> 01:16:01,319
and then I appreciate your time.

1233
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Speaker 3: Oh my pleasure. Thank you so much for having me on,

1234
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,520
and I'd be happy to come on again. I mean,

1235
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,600
there's so many other things that we can discuss as well.

1236
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,000
Like you know, I, as I have mentioned before, I

1237
01:16:11,039 --> 01:16:13,960
live I live over in Stotland and Iberutine, and I

1238
01:16:14,039 --> 01:16:17,600
was mentioning to you before we started the recording that

1239
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,560
I'm working on a book that's about the Egyptians in

1240
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,239
Britain and the ancient Egyptian connections there. So that's something

1241
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:26,159
else that's a really fun rabbit hole to dive into.

1242
01:16:26,399 --> 01:16:29,000
So lots of others, something I love that could be happy.

1243
01:16:29,079 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: I love I love the ancient lost civilizations and the

1244
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,439
whole you know, diaspora and ancient people sailing the world,

1245
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,960
you know, long before Columbus and all that old world stuff,

1246
01:16:40,039 --> 01:16:43,760
neaf alum, elongated schools. Yeah, these are a few of

1247
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,239
my favorite things.

1248
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 3: Mine too, Mine too.

1249
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,359
Speaker 1: Well, Hayley, thank you so much, And like I said,

1250
01:16:50,359 --> 01:16:52,600
I really appreciate you coming on and I definitely want

1251
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,479
to have you back and have some more conversations and

1252
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,640
dive into some other subjects with you. But if anybody

1253
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,760
enjoyed this conversation and they're curious and they want to

1254
01:17:01,039 --> 01:17:03,720
scratch that itch and check out your books or anything

1255
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:07,960
like that, where can they find you? Your content? Websites, YouTube,

1256
01:17:08,279 --> 01:17:10,439
speaking engagement, synything you'd like to plug.

1257
01:17:11,039 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so. I host luxury tours. I'll be hosting

1258
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,479
an Ireland tour with Andrew Collins actually in a few weeks.

1259
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,920
That's in Ireland and Northern Ireland, and so he'll be

1260
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,760
joining us the first nine days of that. It's in

1261
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,319
all My tours are all inclusive. You just pay for

1262
01:17:27,399 --> 01:17:29,079
the package and you show up and don't have to

1263
01:17:29,159 --> 01:17:30,720
do anything else. I take care of it all and

1264
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,479
I host the entire trip, and then i also have

1265
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,439
some Scotland tours and then I'm hosting one with Jimmy

1266
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,680
Church as well in August, which is Monty Python on

1267
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,760
the Holy Grail themed tour because that's his favorite movie,

1268
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,680
so we're doing that. And then I also I'm hosting

1269
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,680
a tour in France in August, which is during the

1270
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,199
Virgo era of the year, because we are going to

1271
01:17:53,279 --> 01:17:56,439
sites that are connected with the constellation Virgo. The medieval

1272
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,960
knights Templar had funded the building of several evil cathedrals

1273
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:05,359
dedicated to Notre Dame our Lady that were actually built

1274
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,840
in places to mimic or mirror stars in the constellation

1275
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,439
of Virgo. So we'll be visiting cathedrals there that are

1276
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,319
aligned with the constellation Virgo that is representing that hermetic

1277
01:18:17,319 --> 01:18:19,920
principle as above so below. And then we will be

1278
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,920
heading down to Brittany to explore more ancient past and

1279
01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:27,920
visiting places like Karnak and other ancient Negolithic sites, some

1280
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,880
cool places that have some connections to ancient goddess worship

1281
01:18:31,079 --> 01:18:36,239
and the ancient divine, feminine and stone. So places like Gavrini,

1282
01:18:36,319 --> 01:18:38,439
which is on an island, has lots of carvings of

1283
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,319
Vulva's in it, and then a few other more off

1284
01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:42,439
the beaten track locations I've come across in my own

1285
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,279
research and that i write about in my book. And

1286
01:18:45,319 --> 01:18:48,359
then also I'm doing an egypt tour this year in October.

1287
01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:52,159
We'll get special access to the insides of the Pyramid

1288
01:18:52,239 --> 01:18:55,239
after hours and to chambers that are not open to

1289
01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:59,159
the public, so special access. And this tour is also

1290
01:18:59,239 --> 01:19:01,920
unique because we're not only doing ancient sites, but we're

1291
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,920
ending the tour in Charmel's Shake with a little bit

1292
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,960
of beach time, so a great way to end the

1293
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,920
trip and relax and wind down. And also another interesting

1294
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,960
trip I'm doing this year is Transylvania, the origins of

1295
01:19:13,079 --> 01:19:16,720
vlad the Impaler and Dracula. So lots of exciting stuff

1296
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,199
on this year. In May, I'm speaking at a conference

1297
01:19:19,239 --> 01:19:22,600
in Delavan, Wisconsin the first week into May, and I'll

1298
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,039
be talking about the Egyptian origins of Britain. And I'll

1299
01:19:25,039 --> 01:19:27,159
be doing a talk called the Goddess in the Lodge

1300
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:31,439
Unveiling the Sacred Feminine Freemasonry, two talks that I love

1301
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,880
and I'm excited to give. I'll have some brand new

1302
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,680
evidence in my Egyptians in Britain talk. I'll be giving

1303
01:19:37,159 --> 01:19:39,760
that I've literally some stuff that I've just come across

1304
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,199
in the past couple weeks actually, so really exciting things.

1305
01:19:43,279 --> 01:19:47,199
And then yeah, I'll be pretty busy this year. But

1306
01:19:47,319 --> 01:19:50,880
my website is Haleyaramsey dot com h A. Y L. E.

1307
01:19:51,079 --> 01:19:54,680
Y A Ramsey dot com and my book I'm currently

1308
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,760
sold out of myself at the moment, but it can

1309
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,399
be found online from different retailers if you search it

1310
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,119
The of Life, a Cosmic History of the Divine Feminine.

1311
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,960
And it's also i think still on Amazon, so I

1312
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,000
will be eventually I don't know when, publishing it with

1313
01:20:09,039 --> 01:20:11,079
a new publisher and we'll be doing a second edition,

1314
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,560
so in the meantime it can be found online. So

1315
01:20:15,159 --> 01:20:17,760
that's all I think I have happening this year. But

1316
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:22,319
it's a pretty packed schedule. So that's that's it for me, guys.

1317
01:20:22,359 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 1: I was about to say, I mean that porky of

1318
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,479
the pig. You know that. That's all, folks, that's a

1319
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,199
whole lot to me run me today, it is. But

1320
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:33,640
but what we said pre roll, that's something I have

1321
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,600
a passion for. So if I had the means to

1322
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,800
I would be go, go go and seeing all these ancient,

1323
01:20:40,399 --> 01:20:43,279
amazing sites myself. But hey, I mean, you said you

1324
01:20:43,319 --> 01:20:45,079
got a YouTube channel and you like doing this stuff. Hey,

1325
01:20:45,079 --> 01:20:49,640
if you need a camera, guy, let me know. It's

1326
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,720
still on that out there. But hey, guys, hope you

1327
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,279
enjoyed that. Man, be sure to check out Haley stuff.

1328
01:20:55,319 --> 01:20:57,920
And hey, just remember, guys, the difference between the known

1329
01:20:58,279 --> 01:21:07,600
and the unknown is the journey. So we can journey, guys.

1330
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:10,560
Speaker 4: Not sorrue not sorry, just to see through smoking mirs

1331
01:21:11,279 --> 01:21:15,359
and cause pace by name. They say the truth will

1332
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:22,119
cost you, friends, Confine me somebody the same. We has

1333
01:21:22,119 --> 01:21:26,199
a softer face, swim fires, let it be