Speaker 1: All start to what you want to present. Some off
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Off the bench with Jacob Hester and T bob Abert.
Speaker 3: Come off the bench.
Speaker 1: Now here's Jacob Hester and T Bob Abert.
Speaker 4: Oh, welcome back live from Radio Row, brought to you
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wegman Kate Watson producing. It's going really well. Rivers just
knocked out a walking interview with UH with Cam Jordan,
so be on the lookout for that. Alone has been
doing great work as well, if you haven't seen her
video yet where she asked Michael Brockers to pronounce a
bunch of Louisiana names, very very funny stuff. I think
we may be catching up with Darrel Johnson here in
a minute.
Speaker 3: We all call that man Darryl one four time.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, I don't know him. I feel like
I should call him mister Johns.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know Johnson.
Speaker 3: I don't know him either, But that's Moose Johnson.
Speaker 2: Should I call him Moose?
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm going to what do you what's his
loved ones called it? I don't know, Yeah, I know,
I'm not his loved ones.
Speaker 2: This I loved Okay, yeah, yeah, true true? What's his
middle name? Knuckle?
Speaker 4: All right, guys, so look, coming up on this hour,
we're gonna continue to talk about the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Couldn't help it as.
Speaker 2: Uh never can never can this guy? This sky t
Bobby's always making inappropriate jokeson I don't know what to
do with it.
Speaker 4: Anyway, Uh, super bowls here, Jake, let's continue some super
Bowl fun facts. Of course, this super Bowl is a
rematch of just a couple of years ago. How many
other times have there been Super Bowl rematches?
Speaker 5: So it looks like there's been eight rematches. This actually,
if I'm not mistaken, be the ninth. So this one
will actually be the ninth. Like you said earlier that
number was nine. It will be the ninth. And so
you've had the Cowboys and Steelers play each other three
times in the Super Bowl. You've had the forty nine
Ers and the Bengals play each other two times in
the Super Bowl. You had the Redskins yeah in eighty two,
eighty nine? Wow am both those games? I mean I
forget about Cincinnati making super Bowls. Whatever Harris shot Boharris
Washington Redskins slash Commanders versus the Miami Dolphins happened twice,
the Cowboys and Bills, and back to back years. We
were talking about that off the air. You had the
Giants and Patriots. Of course, the Giants winning those against
the Patriots, Eli Mannings two super Bowls. You had the
Steelers and Vikings twice. You had Kansas City and the
Packers twice. You had the Eagles and the Patriots twice,
and now.
Speaker 3: You're going to have the Eagles and Chiefs twice.
Speaker 4: So how often can you see on that list? How
often has the team that won the first one the second?
I think that's the most salient question that we can
ask about about this topic.
Speaker 5: So here we go. So let's go back to Dallas
and Pittsburgh. The Steelers. Steelers won the first two, Cowboys
won the third. The forty nine Ers won both of
their matchups with the Bengals. For the Commanders slash Redskins,
the Dolphins won the first one, the Redskins won the
second one. The Cowboys won both of theirs against the Bills.
The Giants won both of theirs against the Patriots, The
Steelers won both of theirs against the Vikings, the Packers
and Chiefs split.
Speaker 3: And then you had the Patriots and the Eagles split.
Speaker 5: Oh is that four to four? My crazy I don't know.
That is a very very odd way to count to four.
Putting your yankey day. I can't even put my piggy down.
It has been that way. You're right, my bad? Is
that four to four?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 3: I think so? Damn it.
Speaker 5: So we don't have like any tangible like right here,
of course, bet this way, No, we can't say.
Speaker 3: I actually kind of like that as four and four though,
me too, Me too.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna have a little bit of a rubber
match here when it comes to Super Bowl rematches, as
this will be the ninth time, Jake, you're doing super
Bowl radio, meaning you have a lot of super Bowl
fun facts content.
Speaker 2: What do you got on your little note cheat over there?
Speaker 5: Yeah, one of my favorite things about super Bowl radios
we have like the freedom to kind of talk about
whatever we want, as long as it has to do
with the game, be it food, be it the flyover.
Like I talked about a little bit earlier, the taste
of NFL they had this week, the events they had,
like the fan all those type of things. And so
we also get into you know, appearances in the Super
Bowl and rematches like we're talking about here the most wins,
So it doesn't have to be necessarily this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just as to history with the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: And so like, as we're doing research, like the most wins,
which two teams do you think has franchises has the
most Super Bowl wins?
Speaker 3: There's two teams.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the uh it is it's the Patriots and
the Niners.
Speaker 5: It is the Patriots in the Steelers crap six apiece.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, because four with the steel Curtain and
then the Cower one in the Tomlin one.
Speaker 3: All right, give me the coach.
Speaker 5: This is pretty easy. The coach for the Steelers. The
coach with the most wins in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, oh, okay Belichick.
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick has six titles.
Speaker 5: Andy re gott Moose the legend. Jake third head coach
to win four Super Bowls. If he's able to get
that done.
Speaker 4: Uh, mister Johnson, you ready come on, hop on right here,
right here in the middle. Oh man, Jake, be careful,
but you're gonna you're very very excited here. Darryl Johnson
Moose Cowboys legend. Uh UFL as well. Uh, let's get
him ahead, get this man a headset, we go. How
are you doing, sir, t A Bear. Great to meet you.
Speaker 3: I'm awesome, good morning.
Speaker 4: I have a lot of USFL love from back in
the day to my old man breakers.
Speaker 2: He shout out to.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: Well, actually, so my old man Bobby used to play
for the Panthers and then Michigan Invaders.
Speaker 3: Dude, you he was with us year two at one
of the games in Detroit. Yeah, told me, Yeah, that
was awesome to go. They actually had the cheerleading, the
old cheerleaders come out too. That was awesome, man.
Speaker 4: And then Jake Kester, legendary fullback in his own right group,
a massive massive fan of you.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 5: So I was able to get six years in the
NFL at fullback, and that's when they used to have fullback.
Speaker 3: Yeah right.
Speaker 5: I remember my last year in the NFL's like twenty
thirteen or fourteen.
Speaker 3: I called my agent. I'm like, hey, what's the deal.
Speaker 5: He goes, well, there's seventeen fullbacks total in the league
right now, not every team even carries one anymore. So
I feel like we were dying breed at that time.
But y'all sat the stage, you Tom Rathman, certainly, you
go on. You got the Mike Allstars, the Larry Centers
of the world. So I've always been a big fan.
Speaker 3: Lorenzo O'Neil sixteen years. I don't know. I don't know
how he did that. That's crazy, that's insane.
Speaker 5: Load Neil is going to be here at some point
because I actually I was in San Diego the year
after Low went to I believe he went to Oakland.
So I took over for Low Neil, and I'm just like,
how are you doing this this long? Yeah, like he
probably started out like six foot one and now he's
like five foot nine.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a battering round he is. He is.
He was amazing, amazing.
Speaker 4: So Darrel, I know, I know we're gonna talk UFL
Executive vice president of Football Operations to the UFL, but
you're three time Super Bowl champion in your own right,
and that is the reason for the season descending here
in New Orleans. Give me take me into your mindset
of a player when you get to this game and
just the emotions and what everything feels like as as
you're going through even you know, the week up to it,
then it's game time.
Speaker 2: How did you What was that like?
Speaker 3: Well, the interesting thing was we had our first year
was the traditional two week break. Our second year was
one week. Oh wow, that was crazy. And that was
the year that that Troy had suffered a concussion in
the NFC Championship game, So you know, getting that turnaround
and just getting Troy to the point where he was
comfortable to fly and felt good. But not that happened nowadays.
I don't I say this all the time. In today's NFL,
he would not have played. He would not have played.
And that's why if you go back to that game,
it was a lot of Emmett Smith running the football
just to take a little bit about that pressure off
of Troy. But I think in the first one Jimmy
did such a good job for us, and I don't
know how you do that today because it's so much
different today than it was when we were there back
in ninety two. Of keeping that week as normal as
possible in the host city, we were only really required
to do media. It was like an hour and a
half on Wednesday and Thursday, if nobody was asking for you,
you could get on the early bus and go back
to the hotel. So I really thought that Jimmy and
our staff did a great job of really making it
as close to what we were doing back in Dallas
prior to leaving for the host market as close as
they could. That being said, you know, once you get there,
there are so many distractions. But he told us, listen,
you guys, now, once you leave us, you know, you
got just do your normal thing, whatever you did on
a Tuesday night, whatever you did on a Wednesday night.
Don't try to make this any different than it is.
And in just trying to keep us in that mind
frame of you know, this is just another ordinary game,
you know, just you know, your normal prep week. But
I mean you get there and it's like, okay, this
is not a normal game. This is completely different.
Speaker 4: So one thing that you always hear at the TMG,
a common thing among the players is everything's just faster, faster,
more intense, just just everything's ratcheted up a notch when
it comes to when the whistleblows. Was that your experience
as well, or did you fall into that classic you know,
first hit Okay, let's do it now.
Speaker 3: I really don't. I did be interested to hear your
take on it, too, Jacob. But to me, when when
people say that like playoff football, oh my god, playoff football, well,
playoff football is different because of the stakes. If you lose,
you're done, you know, you know, during the regular season,
if you lose, hey, let's fix what went wrong. Let's
get better at that. Let's keep pushing the envelope a
little bit and we'll we'll come back out again next week.
So for me, you know, the finality of playoff football,
super Bowl football, and because it's a super bo how
many times are you going to get back there? Will
you ever get back there? So you talk about the
finality through the playoffs and then at the Super Bowl
it's that much more magnified. But football is football. I
try to tell people. You go out and you appreciate
the ceremony of the pregame and you're kind of watching
that and that's that's really really cool. It really is,
you know, just everything that goes on the fly. By
the anthem. I mean, we had great anthem singers at
the Super bowls we were at, so that stuff is fantastic.
But as soon as the ball gets kicked off, like
you do, you don't hear any of that. You go
to your place and you don't recognize it. I mean
the first one was a rose ball. There's over one
hundred thousand people there, and you don't notice that. You
don't hear that. Yeah, So it's it's bizarre because you'll
tell people that and they're like, there's no way that
can be possible.
Speaker 5: I'm so glad to hear you say that, because you're right,
Like I blackout curtains once, like the ball's kick that's
just kind of what it is, and you try to
make it another game.
Speaker 3: And I always loved being.
Speaker 5: On kickoff or kickoff return because I felt like, okay,
let's go ahead and get this the way. First play,
Like even if I don't touch anybody, now I want to.
I want to get the pass pop in a little bit.
But like even that one play, that's all I needed.
Just give me that one play. Okay, now it's football.
Now it's like, have I done the prep work to
be able to go out here and feel confident about myself?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Darryl so ufl So again, everybody maybe think, oh,
last football game, you know, it's this Sunday and then
we gotta wait.
Speaker 2: But but we now have.
Speaker 4: Spring football, Yes, and an alliance has been made, new
league formed. And here's my kind of main question with
the UFL, because again, like I told you, I used
to be a USFL nerd grown up. I remember wearing
out this old VHS tape of the highlight package of
the nineteen eighty three Michigan Panthers and Anthony car Carter
and John Corker and all these guys. Is what is
y'all's kind of long term vision and goal for the league?
Speaker 3: Well, I think the big thing for us this year
was to continue to show people the sustainability of the
league and where we were year one in Legacy USFL.
And I've talked to Rus Brandon about this and it's
very similar, you know, recollection to where they were Legacy
XFL year one. It's it's miles away. We just announced
the opening of our UFL headquarters in Arlington this past
Wednesday or when was it last? Yeah? Last Wednesday. Just unbelievable.
I mean, over one hundred and ten thousand square feet
of office space. We're going to have all eight of
our teams in one location. What we're trying to do
is make the day to day as easy as we
can for the guys, because it's challenging where we are.
We're not the NFL. We don't have a standalone facility
for each team where you can pull in and park
your car, go through your whole day, then come out,
get in your car and go. You know, we are
meeting space and then we've got you know, workouts, and
then we've also got our practice areas. So we're a
little bit nomadic in what we do. So anything that
we can do to make that day easier for our guys,
and this year was a huge step for that. So
I think the biggest thing for us is to demonstrate sustainability,
to build that trust with the agents of the guys,
the players themselves. You know, year one, you're part salesman, right,
you got to call them up and they're like, hey,
I know about the Alliance of American Football. I know
about XFL twenty twenty. No neither one of those made it.
You know, every time you guys try to bring back
these leagues, they don't make it. So the fact that
we are going into you know, season four now for
Legacy USFL season three for Legacy XFL is huge. And
I think the biggest compliment we got this past offseason
was making a coaching change in Memphis and then having
talked to Ken wizen Hunt two years ago, and you know,
I'm very flattered you called, but I'm doing the consulting
work here at the University of Alabama and you know,
I'll keep you on my radar. This year, Ken wizen
Hunt calls you and he says, hey, I saw you're
making a change, So I'm actually now I'm ready to take,
you know, to take another move here and kind of
step away from the University of Alabama as a sultan
and really kind of get back into the day to
day hands on. And we make two offensive line highers
this year, Tom Cable and Mark Columboh wow, so we are.
We are getting good coaches, good players. We're building that
trust that we're going to be around.
Speaker 5: For Tom NFL head coach, he was when I was
in the AFC West, I mean he was Raiders, yeah
for a long period of time.
Speaker 3: So that's a big time higher.
Speaker 5: And also like the proof and the players too, and
how many players from y'all's league are playing in the NFL.
And at a big time level too, not just at
the back end of the roster. I mean we're talking
about guys that are starters, people are counting on them
in the NFL. It kind of shows you the proof
of the products you're putting out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we go back two years, we've got thirty
eight guys from Legacy USFL, Legacy XFL, and then the
UFLU that are on fifty threes right now. So to
your point, you know, we had a huge step this year.
So you know, we've got Brandon Aubrey, We've got it
might have been you got Dan Wheel and we got
Jake Bates, we got Cavante Turpin. Cavante's role continues to
grow in Dallas. You know, not just a return guy anymore,
but you're seeing because of his breakaway speed, you're seeing
them try to get the ball to him, you know,
in the quick pass game, using him as jet sweep guy.
I mean, he saw him as a pass rusher at
the Pro Bowl because he's so quick playing flag football.
So you know, he's that unique guy. But what we're
really proud of this year was Dondre Tillman, defensive end
for the Denver Broncos, you know, kind of back and
forth on the active roster, but finished the year pretty
much on consecutive starts, you know. Down the stretch. Jalen Redman,
defensive tackle for Arlington, went to Minnesota, a team that
just got a fourteen and three season, and in December
breaks through for the starting lineup.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So that, I mean, everybody talks to us. You know,
it's got to be so hard for your guys to
play ten games and then go into training camp and
then go into an eighteen week, seventeen game NFL season.
Well here's Jalen Redman who skits his starting job in December.
So in week fourteen fifteen, he's peaking. Yeah, right, Look,
we're meadheads. We love football and just just let us
play feat exactly. You can tell the body, you can
trick the body into not feeling you know, tired, fatigued,
sore until the end of the year. Now you're gonna
get it's gonna jump on you. You know, the first
day that year season ends. All that stuff comes forward.
But I try to tell people that they're like, how
did you get through the season, you know, with all
the bumps and the bruises and everything like that. I said,
it's amazing how you can trick the body right, and
then at the end of the season, it's just like
you wake up like two days after the season's over
and you're like, holy, I got a lot of.
Speaker 5: Work to do to get doing anything for about twelve days,
I'm making to move out of.
Speaker 4: Here, especially you playing full back and playing at extra
every year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but playing fullback, like when fullbacks twenty one personnel
twenty two personnel was prevalent.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking forty snaps a game.
Speaker 5: I did want to ask you because we were talking
about rematches in the Super Bowl because we had this
one just two years ago, not back to back years,
but you know, I mean it's a lot of same stars. Yeah,
on both of these teams. You did that. You've played
against the Buffalo Bills two times in a row. What
was that like the second time getting ready for that game,
making sure you didn't try to maybe do too much
that you did in the first game. This was going
to be a different game, Like, was there pros and
cons that you kind of took, or was that, hey,
this is a new team, new year, and you really
just kind of attacked it like it was not the
same team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think these two teams are so good and
they have such an identity of what they want to
do offensively and defensively. They're not going to change much
of anything. They're going to tweak some things. I think
it's going to be fun to see what Steve Spagnolo
does against Jalen. You know, he's he's gone against Lamar.
You know, when you play Josh Allen, you have to
account for that. So I think that you'll you'll see
something there. But for us, you know, we we really
hung our hat on this is what we do. We're
going to challenge you to stop it. Our games were very,
very different. You know, the first Super Bowl against Buffalo,
they turned the ball over a ton so that that
game got out of control pretty quick. I think a
lot of people forget the second one. We were down
at halftime and Buffalo had done a real nice job
of running a stunt through the first half that really
impacted our run game. And it was still to this day,
I think it was one of Jimmy Johnson's best, you
know jobs as a head coach, you know, waiting at
the door going into the locker room at halftime, telling
everybody walking in, hey, listen, they're doing something different defensively.
We know what it is, we've identified it. We've got
to play that we think is going to force them
out of it. Once they get out of it, we'll
get back to what we want to do. And we
go in at halftime and it's extended halftime. Yeah, calms
everybody down. Everybody was because everybody was walking off the
field like what is going on? We only got six
points in the first half. Yeah, and you know, we
get in, we got we got the extended time because
of the long halftime as Super Bowls, so we're able
to get through everything and get it dialed in. And
if you remember that game, when we came out offensively
the first time, it was emittright, Emtt left, EMT right,
Emmett left, Emtt right, Emmett left, and it was basically
the same play, and it's like, Okay, you're going to
get out of this right, You're going to get out
of this defense. You can't run this defense if we're
running this play. And they never got out of it,
and so that second half it was twenty four to
nothing Dallas. So it's really just kind of it's going
to boil down to what happens in the game that day,
because the last time they played that was a fantastic game.
Jalen Hurts was outstanding. Again, it was Patrick Mahomes making
the plays. And that's what I've told everybody because Philadelphia,
Philadelphia is that team that they will have that that
little lull usually in the third quarter where they just
they kind of they stop for about six minutes a
game time. If you do that against Kansas City, it's over,
I mean, because they're going to keep rolling. And for Philadelphia,
you know, you have to emphasize the sixty minutes of
football and if you can, if you can throw the
knockout punch, you know, those first fifty six. So when
Patrick Mahomes does get the ball on his hand in
the fourth quarter, it doesn't matter. You're up to possessions
and and you can really kind of feel a little
bit more comfortable. I think that this is going to
be a much different game than that first one, just
because as good as Philly's defense was that year, it
was different this year. There's so much stronger on the
back end. That year was really strong on the front end.
Zach Bond has been just unbelievable. I mean, what a
perfect fit.
Speaker 2: And then they've got and just gave you just gave.
Speaker 3: Them away, and you could watch him on special teams
and you're like, well you got to Mario Dave there.
So don't underappreciate this guy's value because he's just got
a really good player in front of him. But you
need to find a way to get him in this
game defensively. So that was amazing. But I think the
other thing is is Fangio right eyes on the quarterback
all the time, and that's the core to how you know,
Vic Fangio plays defense. It's a lot of that too
deep shell and that's I'm not I don't think anybody's
worried about people running by. You know, you got the
Xavier Worthy could you know that that's a speed threat.
But you're going to keep everybody in front of you
and you're gonna keep your eyes on Patrick. So I
just think the way that their defense is structured this
time around in Philadelphia, it's very positive for them going
against this team. And I think the big thing is
Travis Kelcey is just you know, career lows and a
lot of big categories this year had a nice game
in the divisional round, but this is his stage. Yeah,
you know, you cannot let Travis Kelsey get going early
in this game.
Speaker 4: Well, and I mean, look the other the other X
factor in difference from last year, I think, or from
two years ago. I think what Philly was bringing Boston
Scott Miles Sanders and Kenneth Gainwell to the MiGs, and
you got Saquon thirty yards away from breaking Terrell Davis'
all time record. I mean, this man could end up
with twenty five hundred yards by the end of Sunday.
Does it warm your full back hearts? As you said,
Emmitt right, emmittt left to see a running back be
the engine of a championship team again in the modern age,
some of that I didn't think we'd ever really see again.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean to be in the MVP hunt,
you know, all the way down the stretch, you know,
when that's become really kind of a quarterback award. So yeah,
I think it's fantastic and really the last eighteen months,
Derrick Henry, Saquon Barkley, getting Nick chubbed back into the
NFL healthy, Josh Jacobs, Yeah, I mean it's awesome. I
mean coming back with the run game, because that's if
I'm playing Kansas City. There's certain teams you just don't
you don't want the offense to have the ball and
be the best defense is a good offense, stay on
the field, take away the clock. And I think that
that's going to be interesting here because this is one
of the interesting ones that came by and it goes
back to New Orleans with Sean Payton against Indianapolis in
the Super Bowl when he felt he needed to steal
a possession because he felt like they were down to possession,
so he does the surprise on side to start the
second half. This this game could come down to possessions
because both of these teams are one and two in
ten plus play drives during the game and ten plus
played scoring drives during the game. So if these offenses
are rolling like that, I mean you're gonna be You're
talking maybe three possessions per half, three to one half
for the next half.
Speaker 4: So Darryl Moose, Johnston, NFL legend, three time Super Bowl champ,
currently executive executive vice president Football Operations for the UFL
guys Football does not in Sunday. We got spring football
coming up Moss. Thank you so much, man, this is
an absolute pleasu.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely great to be so good to meet you, Jacob.
Speaker 4: All right, we'll be back with more Off the Bench.
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Speaker 2: Really cool.
Speaker 4: Just now to get to catch up with the legend
Darryl Moose jounced.
Speaker 2: It should have seen Jake and him chopping it up.
Just a couple of.
Speaker 4: Old, solid concrete blocks of men talking about the glory
days of lead in ISO and pounding yourself so hard
that you end up shrinking by the time your career
is over. Jake, how cool is that to get to
meet to get to meet Moose? Very very cool? Like
I said, Light of the Week thus far.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just because I mean, there was a couple of guys,
Tom Rathman himself, like I mentioned, Mike Alstat, Larry Sentner's
low daddy that you know growing up, that's just who
I looked up to. That was you know, that was
the fullbacks and then you know him and I played
in the same offense for nor Norm was.
Speaker 2: The OC j all chopping about North I did.
Speaker 5: The connect if he was the OC in Dallas. That
entire time, and so I played in the same offense.
And actually, it's funny, I just found out. So in
that offense, y'all always hear us talk about why tight
ends kind of an F, tight end, fullback, whatever. Well,
Moose was an F and he said one day in
the huddle, they're like, hey, give me an F. And
so he runs in there. He's like, no, no, like a
different F. He won, like a tight end. Yeah, yeah,
I got it. He's like, all right, you know all this, Like, yeah,
I study and I watched tape, and so Moose went
out there and started doing all the different things. And
then like so when I got into the offense, that
was prevalent, Like the F moved everywhere we're outside, inside,
no matter what. And that's because that one day of practice,
crazy Moose Johnson just said I can do it.
Speaker 2: And that would have been in the early nineties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been early to mid nineties. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then so here you are twenty years later or
ten about twelve years after, twelve years later, reaping the benefits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the making sure just sitting next to you, uh.
Speaker 4: Established That is fantastic, dude, that is fantastic, very cool stuff.
Speaker 2: Here, what a what a great moment.
Speaker 5: I wanted to show him my you know, my full
back montage that to put together a couple of years ago,
because he's pretty prevalent. But you know what, I'd rather
talk offense with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also, Taylor's very happy. I was like, am I supposed
to guess? Because I don't my bad No, I just
my brain. My brain died for a second there, this
little micro nap.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm a little sleepy today.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm very excited because how could you not
be like the energy's palpul in here. But last night
I got back to New Orange about ten thirty at night,
and the cannon's up and he's cutting out pieces of newspaper,
highlighting taping my paper.
Speaker 2: I mean, guys, I.
Speaker 4: Am going to do a video breakdown of his research system.
It is so insanely old school. It is stacks of
cutout articles that are highlighted with different highlighters, like different
colors to to to quickly.
Speaker 3: Out that bar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: I get called out for it all the time. My
different colors of paper and everything. But every color has
a different meaning, and so you just go to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, He'll he'll glue them into uh like almost like
collages on a piece of white lamination paper. Yes, okay,
so same thing, paper clip whatever. It's it's hilarious. But
my point is I'm a little more tired because I
get there like ten thirty.
Speaker 2: It's a long day. Yeah, it's all like all right, Dad,
all right, I'm going to bed.
Speaker 4: And it's like, okay, it's good to just one thing
and then you tell me like, okay, okay, I love you, Dad,
I'll see tomorrow things. I'll be saying, okay, okaya, tell
you this one thing.
Speaker 2: Next thing.
Speaker 4: I know, after an hour straight of random super Bowl factoids,
it's eleven thirty at night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like, Dad, I got it.
Speaker 4: I gotta be up like four hours, like I gotta
I gotta go to bed.
Speaker 3: You can see.
Speaker 4: So I finally uh went to bed. So if I
micro nap a little bit during the show today, that's
that's the reason why uh ta ta how we feel
about uh otm O TV getting to talk to Moose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited about it.
Speaker 7: That was, you know, one of the first Dallas cowboys
that my dad like introduced me to. He was a
little bit before my time, but you know, I have,
you know, went back and kind of looked into all
those teams and everything, and like Darryl Johnston was like
the first in my opinion, like when you look at it,
one of the complete fullbacks because he called a lot
of passes. I mean, he's similar to Jake. Like Jake
caught a lot of passes in the NFL. I mean
he was the lead blocker for the NFL's all time
leading rusher. I mean when you look at fullbacks like
Darryl Johnson, super underrated.
Speaker 2: He did also show me.
Speaker 4: Now, unfortunately, guys, this picture is not for public consumption,
but lega the.
Speaker 2: Cannon and bebeo.
Speaker 4: You're on with a couple of their with a couple
of their college roommates back in the day, had pados
drinking hurricanes and they were in kind of their mid twenties. There,
all right, guys, Jake, we got to say goodbye to you here. Yes,
you have a great day. Radio guys to check out
Jake Channel one oh six, super Bowl Radio nine to twelve,
and then of course on off campus year as Sex
and eighty four.
Speaker 2: Every single day two to five.
Speaker 4: Uh, let's get back on schedule since we went so
long with the guy moves there by going ahead and
going to break now, and when we get back more,
Off the bench.
Speaker 1: Off the bench. Off the Bench with Hester and T
Bob live from Super Bowl fifty nine Radio Row in
New Orleans, presented by Low Bears Casino, Hotel, Baton Rouge.
Speaker 4: Welcome back guys to O tb live here on Radio
Row at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Shout out to le bear a bet Rouge for sponsoring
our trip out here.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at like thirteen old Spice people. Guys, got
a deep old Spice team bringing Cam Jordan around which
what looks like a comically large box of deodorant. Speaking
of corporate activations, we are getting very excited for eleven am,
because that is when the bounty paper towel wings crank
back up.
Speaker 2: Dude, I can't wait. I got okay.
Speaker 4: Look you know me, guys, I am honest to a fault.
Speaker 2: I can't help it. I wish I could lie to you.
I can't.
Speaker 4: I'm just a deeply intrinsically truthful person. And I hated
on the Pittsburgh stand for only going cupcakes the last
couple of days. But I'm looking over there now and
I'm seeing some sort of hot plates. Okay, so maybe
we got some Parogi's or something. Again, I don't remember
what the Pittsburgh food is, but maybe Pittsburgh will will
redeem themselves with Anilly with a little killinary of culture.
How about this, guys, Let's take a look at the
last time the Chiefs and the Eagles met in the
Super Bowl. It was just two years ago. Let's do
a little box score tour. Thirty eight thirty five.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs end up witting.
Speaker 4: Now remember the game flow one of those games where
Philly winning twenty seven to twenty one. But we mentioned
Patrick Mahomes. The fourth quarter's unbelievable. Mahomes comes back back
to back touchdowns. Philly's down eight, but Jalen Hurts gets
it done, drives the Eagles down, ties it two point
conversion makes it thirty five thirty five, only for Mahomes
to do what he does, can come up with a
game winning field goal drive. But if you look at
the numbers, it is interesting because Philadelphia dominated the game.
I mean you look at total yardage four seventeen to
three forty for that of the Eagles, twenty five first
downs to twenty one for Kansas City, ten drives of
the Eagles to eight for Kansas City Jalen Hurts. I mean,
if you just look at a statistical comparison between the
two quarterbacks. Patrick Mahomes go twenty one to twenty seven,
now three touchdowns but only one hundred and eighty two yards.
He had six for forty four in the ground, which
is not nothing. But Hurts went twenty seven to thirty eight,
one touchdown through the air, fifteen carries seventy yards on
the ground, three more scores on the ground. How did
Philly lose? Well, Jalen Hurts made one mistake and that
really highlights the stakes in this game. If you remember
he was rolling out and he ends up fumbling the
ball untouched. Kansas City scoops and scores and that Loan turnover.
I mean, you just heard Mouse Johnson talk about playing
the Bills in back to back years, and now in
that first game, it basically wasn't a game because the.
Speaker 2: Bills just turned it over.
Speaker 4: And once a turnover stack up, well then you get
the game can quickly get away from you. So think
about this, if your jailing Hurts, you outplayed. Oh, by
the way, the Eagles thirty five minutes of possession to
twenty four, really thirty six to twenty four for that
of Kansas City.
Speaker 2: And so here you are.
Speaker 4: You outdueled heavily Patrick Mahomes statistically as an individual, your
team outplayed them as a whole, and yet you ended
up losing the Super Bowl because of one bad moment,
one slip of the hand.
Speaker 2: Ball just fell out.
Speaker 4: And look, I know that this is what makes Patrick
Mahomes so great is that on these stages he does
not make those mistakes. And that's why you have to
be perfect. But think about how Jalen Hurts and the
mentality there to make that mistake, and now for two
years to think about it, how close you were and
how that one second, that one lapse ended up costing
you a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Then you go through the collapse of last season, and.
Speaker 4: Now here you are. You want to talk about overcoming university.
You want to talk about mental toughness. You found your
way back. You're right on the edge of being a
made man. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride. If your
Jalen hurts. You were an awesome at alap You were
awesome at Alabama in the National Championship.
Speaker 2: They took you out for the freshman.
Speaker 4: The next year, you rode the bench, just saved their
ass in the SEC Championship, only to go back to
the bench. Then you go to Oklahoma and you put
together one of the most legendary seasons of all time.
They wouldn't won a Heisman ten out of ten times.
Only you ran into Joe Burrow and he took your heisman,
and he knocked you.
Speaker 2: Out in the final four.
Speaker 4: And here you are another chance to win the championship,
one that would be undeniably and unquestionably solely yours. And
all you gotta do is beat maybe the greatest football
player we've ever seen in our lifetime.
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: But again, you outplayed them that first game.
Speaker 4: You added Sakwon Barkley, you have one of the best
defenses in the league. Well, Kansas City on the heather hand,
Moose talked about Travis Kelsey maybe a bit down, a
lot of one score wins.
Speaker 2: How often they keep it up?
Speaker 4: Are they really going to be that sort of mathematicals
tistcal outline of the entire time. Some feeling pretty bullish
on the Eagles here. Now we'll say this, one thing
that blows the mind is the Steve Spagnolo element and
this Chiefs defense which is carried this Kansas City team
for a.
Speaker 2: Lot of the year.
Speaker 4: Twelve of the seventeen regular season games allowed twenty or
fewer points. They won all twelve of those games, with
eight of them coming by one score. So what's different
about the Eagles? They have Saquon Barkley, they have Zach Bond.
What's different about Kansas City? That defense led by Chris
Jones and Ce Spagnolo has Justin Reid.
Speaker 2: Louisiana has continued to rise in the interim.
Speaker 4: Which improvement will be greater could potentially decide this game.
Speaker 2: The man, Dalen, You've been thinking about it for years.
Speaker 4: Now, that one laps at one bad moment that cost
you everything you worked for your entire life. Well, here
you are your back. Can you get it done this
time around? Can't wait.
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out this Sunday, and we're.
Speaker 4: Gonna find out how we close out our number two
next here on off.
Speaker 2: The bench, Off the bench after uh Alandra agrees with me, saying, dude,
the wings I know.
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com alstir tote bed Roufs dot com shout out to
All Star, was it chan tell yesterday?
Speaker 2: Am I God?
Speaker 4: At least doesn't get me right? I told you I
caught a flat tire. Guys crazy week to get a
flat tire. I was like, oh my god, I need
something immediately. They didn't have to tire and socks.
Speaker 3: So what do they do?
Speaker 2: They ordered immediately they give you a rental car by
to being a by the boom.
Speaker 4: I'm back in my vehicle now, you know, they get
it fixed as soon as possible, or turn the rental
car very painless process. And remember that service center that
Clinches Center open to all makes and models, you know,
doing a little eavesdropping yesterday as them checking out, and
the woman next to me was pleasantly flabberg acid as
she's like, wait, my vehicle's already done. I'm good, And
she said about I can make it hot and at
home in time to see my shows, eat some soup.
Speaker 2: Said hell, yeah, that's what you get it. All Star.
Speaker 4: Okay, so remember all makes and models, welcome to that
service center Clinch Center if you need to, but work
on we got free professor lessends, excell lines communication.
Speaker 2: It's there for you. Also if you're in.
Speaker 4: The market for a new car or it's used vehicle
to to sort my you three card? He said, were
you warranted coverage?
Speaker 2: Good to all? Start two at a bat.
Speaker 6: Ridge when you are the.
Speaker 1: Colocute Off the Bench with Hester and t Bob Live
from Super Bowl fifty nine Radio Row in New Orleans,
presented by Low Bears, Casino, Hotel, Baton Rouge.
Speaker 6: What have y'all?
Speaker 4: Welcome back otb Are you staring down my shirt? Okay,
I'm inviting it, you know, Welcome back O TV live
on Radio Row.
Speaker 2: Here the scene roll. Shout out Labert's Tina Hotel a
Baton Rouge for having a song.
Speaker 3: Of course.
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Speaker 2: Bear Att Sports Media shout out Bert.
Speaker 4: Hey, Alandra, I want you to get ready to play
your Michael Brocker's bit from yesterday.
Speaker 2: Is that cool? Can y'all let me know when you
have it ready to go?
Speaker 4: Yeah? That's cool.
Speaker 2: Ta.
Speaker 3: You can find it on our Twitter, all.
Speaker 4: Right, perfect, because I think that's very funny. And even
if you're just listening on the radio, don't really have
to see it because well, you can guess what he's
trying to guess based on what his answers are. So
we mentioned Steve Spagnola at the end of last segment,
and it's kind of insane to think about because here, here,
here's a guy who has more Super Bowl wins than
any coordinator in NFL history. He has three super Bowls
and the Chiefs one with the Giants. He is going
for his fifth Super Bowl right now, and yet his
one year in New Orleans. This is a man who
led a unit when Sean Payne was suspended for bounty gate,
who led a unit that gave up seven forty two yards.
It remains an NFL single season record. And think about Spagnolo.
We talked about overcoming university when it comes to hurts,
Think about Spagnolo and think about if you're in a
point in your career where you feel like you're in
a downswing. Okay, this is why my wife always talks
about positive manifestation. Stay positive, just keep grinding and keep
doing your thing. Sees Spagnolo got fired by the Saint
Louis Ramsey went ten and thirty eight as their head.
Speaker 2: Coach gets fired.
Speaker 4: He comes to the Saints, he gives up an NFL
record seven thousand yards. He gets another job right after that.
Oh who wasn't the head coach ends up getting fired.
He is out of a job. And it's at this moment,
after three failures in a row, that Andy Reid, the
coach at originally gave him a job in Philadelphia, calls
him up and well, as they say, the rest is history.
Speaker 3: Now he's ed.
Speaker 2: So the best coordinators in the entire NFL never give up, guys.
Speaker 4: One of the best players I ever played with defensively
was LSU legend Michael Brockers, former first round pick of
the Jeff Fisher led Saint Louis Rams and Brockers is
here shout out what is it? Brock brock Brand, brock Brand.
I think it's bro Brand, but the podcast face.
Speaker 2: Broadcast and his clothing and clothing, Okay, brock Brand clothing.
Where's my BB gear? Michael?
Speaker 4: Anyway, A Lodger cut up with Brockers yesterday and asked
the Texas native who spent time here to pronounce some
of Louisiana's more unique cities.
Speaker 5: Here with former Tiger Michael Brockers, we're going around and
we're testing everybody to see if they know how to
read and pronounce these louisianays.
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's your first one.
Speaker 8: Can you tell us what this says to chat patitas?
Speaker 2: Yeah, silent?
Speaker 8: I just know something as silent. I just don't know
which letter to chat patitas. Okay, how about this?
Speaker 3: Uh not to this?
Speaker 6: That's actually very close.
Speaker 8: Snacket ish, which it's not spelt that way at all.
Speaker 2: That that's the thing like they spell it.
Speaker 8: To confuse cheetos. I feel like this one's easy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, let's get on one.
Speaker 8: How about this, This one's easy, let's.
Speaker 3: Go, come on, you got it, you got it.
Speaker 8: I might put it la fourge, but I like the
twist that you put on it.
Speaker 6: This one's hard.
Speaker 3: Kacha wash it wash right.
Speaker 2: I think this is the last one. You got it?
Speaker 8: I believe in you remember silent letters. Silent letters, but
then the letter makes something different than what it really does.
Like it's a tea right there. I feel like I
should go cook like.
Speaker 3: You, I'm cold. That's to start with a tea.
Speaker 8: Don't start with a tea, start with silent.
Speaker 3: Silent so fun, it's a cute.
Speaker 2: So you were closed more one more.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that gm.
Speaker 2: Lagnappy, lagon nappy, not lagonnappy. Oh man, uh lagan nappy.
Speaker 4: Excellent work, Elandra, I gotta say, Elandra, Uh great charisma.
Like I I kind of hate doing those sort of
like live Man on the Street, off the Cup interviews.
I think it's one of the toughest things to be
good at and to be funny with. And I thought
you had great charisma. I thought you played with the
guest and played off of the guest really well. I
just think you nailed it ten out of ten. Good job, girl,
Thank you.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. Uh, So be on the lookup
for more of that.
Speaker 4: Remember you can stay tuned uh one of four five
ESPN's Instagram, Twitter, all of that if you ever to
catch our show on demand. Of course, we've got this
the live stream channel and one of four FIVEPN. We
have OTB SAT of OTBLSU, the podcast feeds, we have
the overall channel feed, we have OHVS agents vlshoo. There's
a ton of different ways where you can uh let
us inside of you.
Speaker 3: Your ears.
Speaker 4: That is.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: Coming up an hour number three. I I told Brandon
Walker that we're gonna have him on today.
Speaker 2: He said no, but I'm still gonna call him, and so, uh,
maybe we will, maybe we won't. We'll see if it
ends up happening.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: Otherwise, we still got our t a NFL Story of
the day day Super Bowl Radio row.
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