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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty so.

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<v Speaker 2>Later with mo Kelly.

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<v Speaker 3>We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>And over the weekend, Tuala, me and Stefan all went

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<v Speaker 3>to see Thunderbolts. I was seeing it for the second time.

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<v Speaker 3>Tawala was seeing it. I now found out for the

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<v Speaker 3>second time. Thunderbolts is the number one movie in America

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<v Speaker 3>with seventy four million dollars domestic gross another eighty six

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<v Speaker 3>million internationally for a total of one hundred and sixty million.

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<v Speaker 3>To give you some context, that is behind, if you will,

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<v Speaker 3>what Captain America Brave New World did in its first

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<v Speaker 3>weekend on a per screen average basis, total box office

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<v Speaker 3>basis screen average basis. It is not performing as well

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<v Speaker 3>as some would have hoped coming after Captain America Brave

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<v Speaker 3>New World. But the critics review use are glowing for

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<v Speaker 3>the most part, saying it has heart, Marvel is back,

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<v Speaker 3>It's what Marvel movies used to be, but the box

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<v Speaker 3>office response hasn't matched it yet. I said on Friday,

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<v Speaker 3>when Mark Ronnerd was reviewing it as part of his

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<v Speaker 3>RUNA report.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked it.

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<v Speaker 3>I really did enough to see it a second time, clearly,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't love it. And you know, unless you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to go into our Nerdorama segment with us that

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<v Speaker 3>we do as a separate podcast, too much to discuss.

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<v Speaker 3>But overall, I would say the summer box office, because

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<v Speaker 3>we're now into the summer box office season, regardless of

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<v Speaker 3>the season not changing, it is off to a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good start.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say with Thunderbolts, which I liked the first time,

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<v Speaker 4>I liked even more the second time. I really liked

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<v Speaker 4>the film, and I do believe that it is a

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<v Speaker 4>return to what Marvel is really really good at, putting heartfelt,

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<v Speaker 4>action filled fun stories on the big screen. They put

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<v Speaker 4>movies on their big screen that satisfy all the quoteras

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<v Speaker 4>for going to go and see a movie. Escapism takes

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<v Speaker 4>you to another world, shows you some things that you

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<v Speaker 4>didn't see before. But with this film, and I understand

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<v Speaker 4>why this film is not maybe taking off as much

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<v Speaker 4>as most because this is a film that is primarily

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<v Speaker 4>focused around bad guys within the Marvel cinematic universe. There

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<v Speaker 4>are no heroes in this film to speak of. This

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<v Speaker 4>is a film that anyone who is even tangentially familiar

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<v Speaker 4>with the Marvel cinematic universe. Knows all these people are

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<v Speaker 4>bad guys, and they aren't bad guys who had a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of story behind them in their initial entry. This

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<v Speaker 4>film successfully fleshes out these characters. There is one character

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<v Speaker 4>who maybe in the series Falcon in the Winter soldier

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<v Speaker 4>US agent John Walker played by White Russell.

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<v Speaker 2>Kurt Russell Kur guests in that series.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone hated him unanimously, and he was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 4>because he was a dislikable, detestable character. This film actually

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<v Speaker 4>made him out to be someone that you're like, Damn, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I could have a dream with that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's actually pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that was the glowing and resounding thing

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<v Speaker 4>for me that I'm like, man, this has a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually grew to like these characters even more in

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<v Speaker 4>this film.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I liked the second generation aspect. You had Wyatt Russell,

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<v Speaker 2>who was Kurt Russell's son. You also had Lewis Pullman,

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<v Speaker 2>who was Bill Pullman's son, who played Century spot On

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<v Speaker 2>just like his dad was White Russell too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was like, is this a CGI rendering of

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<v Speaker 4>the DH mill Fullman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, wild, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way he smiled, his facial expressions looked just like dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Their dads were both in Tombstone together, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. That is true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, another generation of acting, and it's fun It's almost

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<v Speaker 3>funny because when I look at Wyat Russell when I was,

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<v Speaker 3>there are times where he sounds so much like Kurt Russell.

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<v Speaker 3>It was uncanny. I thought he was almost doing an

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<v Speaker 3>impression of his father. And it makes for his character

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<v Speaker 3>because I look at that as like, okay, you are

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<v Speaker 3>not like a pale imitation, but he wants to be

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<v Speaker 3>Captain America. He sounds like Kurt Russell, but he's not

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<v Speaker 3>there yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I don't mean that

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<v Speaker 3>as a what he's saying. But also they're sinners and

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<v Speaker 3>Sinners came in at number three this week, and despite

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<v Speaker 3>what anyone may have to say about that movie, it

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<v Speaker 3>has legs that means a lot for the box office.

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<v Speaker 3>It's now up to one hundred and eighty million dollars domestically.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still doing well internationally with fifty seven million. I

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<v Speaker 3>say doing well because horror movies don't traditionally do well internationally,

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<v Speaker 3>and you also have it's a black horror movie, which

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there's really no precedent for that international success.

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<v Speaker 3>It has a worldwide growth of two hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 3>seven million. Is the third week. It has not lost

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<v Speaker 3>any theaters. It actually has increased theaters since it first

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<v Speaker 3>came out, meaning it's going to be in theaters at

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<v Speaker 3>least for another three four weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>I look I applauded, I look forward to it. And

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<v Speaker 4>if you missed it, an imax the Vista Theater is

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<v Speaker 4>still showing it in seventy milimeters. You gotta see this

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<v Speaker 4>film in its realist format.

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<v Speaker 3>Why why is it that seventy millimeters makes for a

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's what the film was shot in. So then

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<v Speaker 4>you see the fullness of the picture. You see the

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<v Speaker 4>fullness of everything that was being conveyed, and it's almost

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<v Speaker 4>like it's like a wider aperture, wider aperture, clear, more

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<v Speaker 4>crystal picture. Everything you see, the details, all the grains, everything,

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<v Speaker 4>the sound, everything about it plays differently in its original format,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is a film that's special for that. He said,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to do this old school and I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to really bring back some serious filmmaking. And when you

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<v Speaker 4>see it, at that aspect ratio. It's a treat yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Number Number four this week, excuse me. Number three this

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<v Speaker 3>week was a Minecraft movie. Number four was The Accountant two.

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<v Speaker 3>Number five was Until Dawn. Number six The Amateur. I

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<v Speaker 3>still haven't gotten around to see that. I've heard varying

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<v Speaker 3>reviews on it, but I still want to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Number seven The King of Kings, number eight, Warfare, number

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<v Speaker 3>nine Hit the Third Case, have no idea, and ten

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<v Speaker 3>The Surfer, have no idea. But the box office is

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<v Speaker 3>picking up for the summer, and this is when movie

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<v Speaker 3>theaters need movies to perform and perform well so they

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<v Speaker 3>will last longer in theaters and they will have more

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<v Speaker 3>of an attendance during the week for the theaters.

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<v Speaker 4>And already with my mic on and already Disney is

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<v Speaker 4>already showing up and showing out as the leader as

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<v Speaker 4>far as the film going experience, because we're starting off

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<v Speaker 4>the summer arguably with the Thunderbolts, and then within the

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<v Speaker 4>next few weeks, well the time Thunderbolts is starting to

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<v Speaker 4>go out, you have the Leelo and Stitch coming in

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<v Speaker 4>and then Leila's watching that. I'm just I'm just talking

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<v Speaker 4>about well live action, so what's keeping the theater alive?

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<v Speaker 4>Mo Lelo and STI. I'm not watching it, am I

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<v Speaker 4>watch going into Fantastic four, I watch that, and then

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<v Speaker 4>we get even more Disney stuff towards the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the year. So again, everyone who wants to right God

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<v Speaker 4>Disney as woke, you better still hope they stay woke.

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<v Speaker 3>Because because if Disney doesn't do well, your favorite movie

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<v Speaker 3>theater will close.

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<v Speaker 2>Period.

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<v Speaker 3>YouTube experience. Something else that we've been following for many months,

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<v Speaker 3>more than a year now, the whole P Diddy saga

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<v Speaker 3>and jury selection began today in his federal racketeering sex

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<v Speaker 3>trafficking case. I don't know what's going to happen, but

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<v Speaker 3>I do know it's probably no chance in hell that

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to be able to find jury members who

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<v Speaker 3>don't have some level of awareness or association with the

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<v Speaker 3>career and fame of Sean P.

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<v Speaker 2>Ditty comes.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's just possible, even if you

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<v Speaker 3>weren't directly following the case. It has been major news

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<v Speaker 3>for the past year or so. It's been discussed on

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<v Speaker 3>talk radio that it's been discussed on public TV. It's

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<v Speaker 3>been discussed on obviously commercial TV and cable TV streaming.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no way you can get around it. TMZ has

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<v Speaker 3>had a documentary about it already. There's no way that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know something about Sean p Didty Kulmmes because

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<v Speaker 3>he's been in the public eye for the past thirty years. Easy,

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<v Speaker 3>we're at the same age, we're born the same month.

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<v Speaker 3>He's maybe twenty days older than me. I say that

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<v Speaker 3>to say it's going to be very difficult for Diddy

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<v Speaker 3>to not get a jury who has not had some

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<v Speaker 3>sort of exposure.

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<v Speaker 2>To this case.

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<v Speaker 3>And despite what anyone may think about him, that is

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<v Speaker 3>not going to help his cause in any way. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they're going to get a conviction

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<v Speaker 3>or to what degree, but I do know it's more

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<v Speaker 3>likely than not that he will probably be convicted because

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<v Speaker 3>what we hear about the case is so very heinous,

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<v Speaker 3>and depending on what's going to be allowed as far

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<v Speaker 3>as witness testimony or witnesses testimonies could be also probative

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<v Speaker 3>and prejudicial, depends on what they allow in or what

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<v Speaker 3>they disallow. I don't know whether he's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to get past this because just from what we

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<v Speaker 3>know publicly, there's no telling what prosecutors know which has

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<v Speaker 3>not been revealed because they didn't want that evidence to

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<v Speaker 3>get out. There's evidence that they use to secure the indictment,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's not all the evidence they have. That's not

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<v Speaker 3>the evidence which is going to get a conviction, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm inclined to believe there's more video tape, more witnesses,

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<v Speaker 3>there's more testimony, there's more seemingly unbelievable accounts of what

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<v Speaker 3>did he allegedly did to a number of people. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>what is helping Diddy in my analysis, is that some

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<v Speaker 3>people who may know about Diddy may not understand the

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<v Speaker 3>difference between a freak off and the alleged criminality because

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<v Speaker 3>I hear it from my friends they say, well, this

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<v Speaker 3>was just consensual sex. Well, he's not being charged with

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<v Speaker 3>consensual sex. He's not being charged with having freak offs

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<v Speaker 3>or sex parties. He's charged with racketeering and sex trafficking.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you have those charges, that says to me,

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<v Speaker 3>especially in federal cases, there's a lot of digital evidence,

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<v Speaker 3>probably video evidence and more, which is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>corroborated by testimonial evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 4>They have some form of wire tracking of transfers of money,

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<v Speaker 4>here's the proof. That's it. Let me give an example,

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<v Speaker 4>and don't ask me how I know why this is.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say, for hypothetically speaking, that Diddy hired some sex

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<v Speaker 2>That's crossing sex state lines.

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<v Speaker 3>That is sex trafficking, whether the eventual sex was consensual

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<v Speaker 2>So there are levels to this, as they say.

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<v Speaker 4>If his company, the company that he is the head of,

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<v Speaker 4>that he signs checks for every single thing that goes out, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter who he has working under him, who may

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<v Speaker 4>If he has a stable of talent in New York

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<v Speaker 4>way of seeing, okay seeing it, actually seeing the things

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<v Speaker 3>You've been to a Didty party, I've been to a

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<v Speaker 3>Diddy party. I have not been to the freak Offs,

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<v Speaker 3>but I can tell you the public facing portions of

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot at just the public facing. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>All I know is I have seen talent enter a

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen this firsthand.

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<v Speaker 4>So all I'm saying is, even if he wasn't aware

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<v Speaker 3>Awareness does not absolve someone of responsibility or culpability.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, if he can prove that he not only had

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<v Speaker 4>no idea, but had nothing to do with the money,

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<v Speaker 4>and these are individuals that just happened to work for him,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Maybe that is why he is putting

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<v Speaker 4>in the not guilty plea, because he's like, look, my

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<v Speaker 4>hands are clean. That was Joe Blow, and Joe Blow

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<v Speaker 3>This is not unlike This is not unlike the trial,

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<v Speaker 3>because you just can't get a federal indictment just because

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<v Speaker 3>of something. They're not going to sign off on the

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're going to have the actual jury hear this evidence.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know how it's going to turn out, but the

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<v Speaker 3>odds are against P Diddy. It's Later with mokel and

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 3>Forty KFI mister mo Kelly live everywhere in the iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 3>app and YouTube. Eileen Gonzalez is getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>Eileen.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the utube stream. And originally we didn't think

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<v Speaker 3>you were going to be joining us on the YouTube stream.

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<v Speaker 3>We thought, since you're filling in for Mark, you may

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<v Speaker 2>You said, no, no, no, bring on a camera, bring it on,

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<v Speaker 2>bring it on. Yeah, like I said, I did news

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>No, biggie, alrighty, I absolutely love it. So you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yep, okay, let's give it a b I absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>Part of the reason as we switch gear is part

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<v Speaker 3>of the reason we like talking about music stories just

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<v Speaker 3>because Tuala has a history connected to the music industry.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a history connected to the music industry in

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<v Speaker 3>different ways. He was in radio and I was in

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<v Speaker 3>the music labels. But we came together when it came

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<v Speaker 3>to concerts, especially either planning them or executing them. When

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<v Speaker 3>I saw this story on the wire talking about there

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<v Speaker 3>was a plot to bomb a free Lady Gaga concert

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<v Speaker 3>this past Saturday in Brazil, it brought to mind a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of concerts and concerns that I've had over the

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<v Speaker 3>years as far as scheduling a concert trying to and

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<v Speaker 3>it's not necessarily even on a terrorism level, we had

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<v Speaker 3>gain problems that we had to worry about. This artist

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<v Speaker 3>was affiliated with this gang, and these other gangs were

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<v Speaker 3>coming to town or coming to the concert and may

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<v Speaker 3>shoot up the play. So I think about all these

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<v Speaker 3>things that you have to worry about, separate and distinct

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<v Speaker 4>I remember after nine to eleven, every single concert that

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<v Speaker 4>we did after that, every vehicle had to be thoroughly screened.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking cops with them were coming into artists check

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<v Speaker 4>in and they got the mirrors underneath the cars, they

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<v Speaker 4>got the dogs sniffing up complace. And now it's commonplace.

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<v Speaker 4>But I remember beforehand, we were just you know, extreme

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<v Speaker 4>pat downs and things like that. After nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 4>concert and venue security it became like getting into Fort Knocks,

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<v Speaker 4>and it has not changed. It from my understanding, as

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<v Speaker 4>far as producing concerts, that's one of the biggest expenses.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the insurance involved and trying to prepare for,

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<v Speaker 3>unfortunately the unthinkable. But you have to think about it

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<v Speaker 3>in advance. And I I'm so glad nothing happened. Let

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<v Speaker 3>me be absolutely clear, But according to the story, it says, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>the network promoted the rad radicalization of adolescents, the dissemination

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<v Speaker 3>of hate crimes, self mutilation, and violent content as a

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<v Speaker 3>form of belonging in defiance among young people. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>from a press the least talking about how they managed

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<v Speaker 3>to dismantle a criminal network that operated online. It's always

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<v Speaker 3>been my concern, personal concern when going to a concert

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<v Speaker 3>or a large venue something like that possibly happening. And

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<v Speaker 3>mind you, this is something that we happen to know about.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm quite sure there are plenty of other concerts or

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<v Speaker 3>plenty other plots which were thwarted or just stopped at

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<v Speaker 3>some point in the process, and we the general public

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<v Speaker 3>just never knew about it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's tough because working behind the scenes and working so

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<v Speaker 4>closely with security in the past and working to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure that venues are safe. After a while, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>go anywhere without first eyebaw on the exits, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>looking at the crowd, looking at the dotations of the security,

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<v Speaker 4>making sure that everything is on point.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's tough.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't ever just go and enjoy a show without

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<v Speaker 4>having to be in that mindset of like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>was a security patrol on the floor. Is there enough

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<v Speaker 4>adequate security?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I see an incident over there? Where's security up? Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>We're off to a bad start. This is the mindset

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<v Speaker 4>that I now have, And when I see this story,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>I walk into a room if there are a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people, and I'm thinking like, okay, where the exits,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you, is there adequate security? I'm looking at generally

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<v Speaker 3>the clientele who looks out of place, and if something

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<v Speaker 3>jumps off, where where's my first route of escape. It's

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<v Speaker 3>one thing to recognize where the exits are. It's another

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<v Speaker 3>thing to know that or position yourself accordingly where you

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<v Speaker 3>can actually get there. Because I've seen and there are

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<v Speaker 3>another things you have to worry about. It could be

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<v Speaker 3>a mass shooting, it could be a domestic violence situation.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen that, and that escalates out of control. It

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<v Speaker 3>could be an act of terrorism, it could be just

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<v Speaker 3>some a fight that breaks out and people start running.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't tell you how many times I've been in

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<v Speaker 3>in that situation when someone starts running, you don't stop.

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<v Speaker 2>To say, hey, what's going on here? Why is everyone running?

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<v Speaker 3>No, you better run your ass too to get away

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<v Speaker 3>from whatever is going on over there. And then people

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, I know there are some who would say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>it's Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga, she may have attracted it

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<v Speaker 4>because of her imagery and some of the things.

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<v Speaker 2>It ain't got nothing to do with Lady Gaga.

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<v Speaker 4>It just happened to be that she was doing a

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<v Speaker 4>humongoush show and it would have made the perfect target

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<v Speaker 4>for anyone to make a name for themselves. But this

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<v Speaker 4>could happen to anyone your favorite artists if they are

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<v Speaker 3>I promise you this a crowd. They are at a target. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the crowd, it's not the artist. If you got

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<v Speaker 3>fifty thousand people who were captive and I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>a captive audience of fifty thousand people or however how

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<v Speaker 3>many inherently they're a target.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I have to go and look it up.

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<v Speaker 4>But there was I remember when the Taylor Swift tour

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<v Speaker 4>like postpone Certain shows move because of threats, just general threats.

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<v Speaker 3>It happens. It just happens. This is a society that

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<v Speaker 3>we live in now, unfortunately, unfortunately, and there's no going back.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Later with Mo Kelly caf I AM six forty

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 3>And before we get out of here, let me do

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<v Speaker 3>this final thought. And I've been thinking about this all

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<v Speaker 2>But I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Thinking about the movie industry, something we talk about every

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<v Speaker 3>but how you say it and the words you choose.

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<v Speaker 3>The Trump tariffs, as I said before in previous commentaries,

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<v Speaker 3>to pass. We still have this grace period before they

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<v Speaker 3>may all take effect.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's no real argument here.

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<v Speaker 3>Those terroifts, if they take effect, will impact all of us.

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<v Speaker 3>But just like where it's not what you do and

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<v Speaker 3>what you say necessarily, it's also true that just because

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<v Speaker 3>a problem is legitimate, and trade imbalance is a legitimate

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<v Speaker 3>issue and it needs to be solved, just because the

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<v Speaker 3>issue is legitimate, it doesn't mean that any old proposed

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<v Speaker 3>solution is the solution. In the past day, President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>announced the following quote. I am authorizing the Department of

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<v Speaker 3>Commerce and the United States Trade Representative to immediately begin

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<v Speaker 3>the process of instituting a one hundred percent tariff on

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<v Speaker 3>any and all movies coming into our country that are

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<v Speaker 3>produced in foreign lands quote close quote. But he also

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<v Speaker 3>said we want movies made in America again. Now, contrary

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<v Speaker 3>to the President's popular belief, tariffs are not the magic

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<v Speaker 3>pill for everything. But going back to it's not what

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<v Speaker 3>you say, it's how you say it, and it's not

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<v Speaker 3>what you do, but how you go about it. The

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<v Speaker 3>President didn't either give the movie studios an he heads

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<v Speaker 3>up or consult them as to what movie studios and

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<v Speaker 3>theaters thought the problems of their industry were. He may

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<v Speaker 3>think Tarif's or the solution, but they aren't, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Virtually every media stock was down today because they were

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<v Speaker 3>blindsided by this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm inclined to.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe the movie studios know their industry better than the

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<v Speaker 3>president or any president. And here's some else which has

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<v Speaker 3>gotten lost in this what I call tariff everything approach.

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<v Speaker 3>Movies aren't goods anymore. They're services. They're distributed digitally. They're

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<v Speaker 3>quote unquote manufactured in dozens of places simultaneously, not just

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<v Speaker 3>where they're filmed.

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<v Speaker 2>Post production effects, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>Are usually done any number of places around the world

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<v Speaker 3>for the same movie, regardless of filming locations. So you

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<v Speaker 3>may have a movie which is filmed in America, like Atlanta, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 3>for example. Most of the Marvel movies are now filmed

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<v Speaker 3>in Atlanta, Georgia. Take Captain America Brave New World are

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<v Speaker 3>used as an example, filmed mostly in Atlanta, but there

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<v Speaker 3>were some scenes which were filmed in Wahaka, Mexico, Tokyo, Japan,

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<v Speaker 3>and in the Middle East in Jordan. Now, are we

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<v Speaker 3>gonna penalize a movie like that or how about a

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<v Speaker 3>movie like Mission Impossible, which routinely films at exata locations

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<v Speaker 3>around the world. Does that make those movies less of

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<v Speaker 3>an American movie? And maybe it's post production is completed

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<v Speaker 3>by an international agency that is commonplace. You can't film

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<v Speaker 3>a Mission Impossible movie all on location in America or

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<v Speaker 3>some sound stage or with CGI, and honestly, you and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want that. There's also the reality that it

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<v Speaker 3>costs much less to film internationally, and that's part of

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<v Speaker 3>the labor issue. But putting tariffs, and here's the main point,

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<v Speaker 3>putting tariffs on foreign air quote, foreign movies, whatever that means,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't address any of that. You may have heard that

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<v Speaker 3>the President blames Governor Gavin Newsom for this. Well, I

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<v Speaker 3>would like to blame Governor Gavin Newsom for a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff. But this is not understanding the problem. This

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<v Speaker 3>says that President Trump doesn't understand that movies and movie

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<v Speaker 3>studios are no longer a Hollywood phenomenon. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest complaints about NEWSOM is that a lot of Hollywood

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<v Speaker 3>has left for other states. I'm talking states like Georgia.

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<v Speaker 3>Talked about Marvel, North Carolina, and Louisiana. Movies, American movies

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<v Speaker 3>are not just made in California. The infrastructure to make

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<v Speaker 3>these movies, both big and small, are not necessarily connected

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<v Speaker 3>to California at all. You have a movie like Russ

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<v Speaker 3>with Alec Baldwin has made in New Mexico. Movies routinely

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<v Speaker 3>are not made in California. And that's saying nothing of

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<v Speaker 3>the TV shows which shoot in various places around the

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<v Speaker 3>country and even internationally in Canada, which is a frequent

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<v Speaker 3>stand in for US cities. Are these terriffs going to

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<v Speaker 3>be placed on television shows?

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<v Speaker 2>Again?

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<v Speaker 3>How does that work? But this speaks to how you

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<v Speaker 3>go about it. This speaks to how the powerbrokers should

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<v Speaker 3>have been consulted first before announcing a policy which likely

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<v Speaker 3>will not bring about the desired result because it hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>been thought through and constructed with the actual industry players.

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<v Speaker 3>He's alleging he trying to help and Lastly, just like

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<v Speaker 3>the tariffs on goods, the other countries will have the

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to respond. China routinely denies entry of American movies,

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<v Speaker 3>as do Russia and Taiwan. Some countries do not rely

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<v Speaker 3>on our movies and don't care. They do not give

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<v Speaker 3>a damn and they don't need America to show our

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<v Speaker 3>They don't need America to show their movies. I bet

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<v Speaker 3>you most people listening right now have no idea what

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<v Speaker 3>the number one movie in the world is. It's made

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<v Speaker 3>over two billion dollars in twenty twenty five, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>probably pronouncing it wrong. It's ne Jah two, more than

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<v Speaker 3>two billion dollars, not one million of which was made.

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<v Speaker 2>Here in the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>This issue is far more complicated than getting on social

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<v Speaker 3>media and proclaiming tariffs on everyone.

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