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Speaker 3: And over the weekend, Tuala, me and Stefan all went
Speaker 3: to see Thunderbolts. I was seeing it for the second time.
Speaker 3: Tawala was seeing it. I now found out for the
Speaker 3: second time. Thunderbolts is the number one movie in America
Speaker 3: with seventy four million dollars domestic gross another eighty six
Speaker 3: million internationally for a total of one hundred and sixty million.
Speaker 3: To give you some context, that is behind, if you will,
Speaker 3: what Captain America Brave New World did in its first
Speaker 3: weekend on a per screen average basis, total box office
Speaker 3: basis screen average basis. It is not performing as well
Speaker 3: as some would have hoped coming after Captain America Brave
Speaker 3: New World. But the critics review use are glowing for
Speaker 3: the most part, saying it has heart, Marvel is back,
Speaker 3: It's what Marvel movies used to be, but the box
Speaker 3: office response hasn't matched it yet. I said on Friday,
Speaker 3: when Mark Ronnerd was reviewing it as part of his
Speaker 3: RUNA report.
Speaker 2: I liked it.
Speaker 3: I really did enough to see it a second time, clearly,
Speaker 3: but I didn't love it. And you know, unless you're
Speaker 3: going to go into our Nerdorama segment with us that
Speaker 3: we do as a separate podcast, too much to discuss.
Speaker 3: But overall, I would say the summer box office, because
Speaker 3: we're now into the summer box office season, regardless of
Speaker 3: the season not changing, it is off to a pretty
Speaker 3: good start.
Speaker 4: I would say with Thunderbolts, which I liked the first time,
Speaker 4: I liked even more the second time. I really liked
Speaker 4: the film, and I do believe that it is a
Speaker 4: return to what Marvel is really really good at, putting heartfelt,
Speaker 4: action filled fun stories on the big screen. They put
Speaker 4: movies on their big screen that satisfy all the quoteras
Speaker 4: for going to go and see a movie. Escapism takes
Speaker 4: you to another world, shows you some things that you
Speaker 4: didn't see before. But with this film, and I understand
Speaker 4: why this film is not maybe taking off as much
Speaker 4: as most because this is a film that is primarily
Speaker 4: focused around bad guys within the Marvel cinematic universe. There
Speaker 4: are no heroes in this film to speak of. This
Speaker 4: is a film that anyone who is even tangentially familiar
Speaker 4: with the Marvel cinematic universe. Knows all these people are
Speaker 4: bad guys, and they aren't bad guys who had a
Speaker 4: lot of story behind them in their initial entry. This
Speaker 4: film successfully fleshes out these characters. There is one character
Speaker 4: who maybe in the series Falcon in the Winter soldier
Speaker 4: US agent John Walker played by White Russell.
Speaker 2: Kurt Russell Kur guests in that series.
Speaker 4: Everyone hated him unanimously, and he was supposed to be
Speaker 4: because he was a dislikable, detestable character. This film actually
Speaker 4: made him out to be someone that you're like, Damn, man,
Speaker 4: I could have a dream with that guy.
Speaker 2: He's actually pretty cool.
Speaker 4: And I think that was the glowing and resounding thing
Speaker 4: for me that I'm like, man, this has a lot
Speaker 4: of heart.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: I actually grew to like these characters even more in
Speaker 4: this film.
Speaker 2: Also, I liked the second generation aspect. You had Wyatt Russell,
Speaker 2: who was Kurt Russell's son. You also had Lewis Pullman,
Speaker 2: who was Bill Pullman's son, who played Century spot On
Speaker 2: just like his dad was White Russell too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, is this a CGI rendering of
Speaker 4: the DH mill Fullman.
Speaker 2: Yes, wild, the.
Speaker 3: Way he smiled, his facial expressions looked just like dad.
Speaker 2: Their dads were both in Tombstone together, by the way.
Speaker 2: That's true. That is true.
Speaker 3: Yes, another generation of acting, and it's fun It's almost
Speaker 3: funny because when I look at Wyat Russell when I was,
Speaker 3: there are times where he sounds so much like Kurt Russell.
Speaker 3: It was uncanny. I thought he was almost doing an
Speaker 3: impression of his father. And it makes for his character
Speaker 3: because I look at that as like, okay, you are
Speaker 3: not like a pale imitation, but he wants to be
Speaker 3: Captain America. He sounds like Kurt Russell, but he's not
Speaker 3: there yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I don't mean that
Speaker 3: as a what he's saying. But also they're sinners and
Speaker 3: Sinners came in at number three this week, and despite
Speaker 3: what anyone may have to say about that movie, it
Speaker 3: has legs that means a lot for the box office.
Speaker 3: It's now up to one hundred and eighty million dollars domestically.
Speaker 3: It's still doing well internationally with fifty seven million. I
Speaker 3: say doing well because horror movies don't traditionally do well internationally,
Speaker 3: and you also have it's a black horror movie, which
Speaker 3: you know, there's really no precedent for that international success.
Speaker 3: It has a worldwide growth of two hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: seven million. Is the third week. It has not lost
Speaker 3: any theaters. It actually has increased theaters since it first
Speaker 3: came out, meaning it's going to be in theaters at
Speaker 3: least for another three four weeks.
Speaker 4: I look I applauded, I look forward to it. And
Speaker 4: if you missed it, an imax the Vista Theater is
Speaker 4: still showing it in seventy milimeters. You gotta see this
Speaker 4: film in its realist format.
Speaker 3: Why why is it that seventy millimeters makes for a
Speaker 3: better experience.
Speaker 4: Because it's what the film was shot in. So then
Speaker 4: you see the fullness of the picture. You see the
Speaker 4: fullness of everything that was being conveyed, and it's almost
Speaker 4: like it's like a wider aperture, wider aperture, clear, more
Speaker 4: crystal picture. Everything you see, the details, all the grains, everything,
Speaker 4: the sound, everything about it plays differently in its original format,
Speaker 4: and this is a film that's special for that. He said,
Speaker 4: I'm going to do this old school and I'm going
Speaker 4: to really bring back some serious filmmaking. And when you
Speaker 4: see it, at that aspect ratio. It's a treat yeah.
Speaker 3: Number Number four this week, excuse me. Number three this
Speaker 3: week was a Minecraft movie. Number four was The Accountant two.
Speaker 3: Number five was Until Dawn. Number six The Amateur. I
Speaker 3: still haven't gotten around to see that. I've heard varying
Speaker 3: reviews on it, but I still want to see it.
Speaker 3: Number seven The King of Kings, number eight, Warfare, number
Speaker 3: nine Hit the Third Case, have no idea, and ten
Speaker 3: The Surfer, have no idea. But the box office is
Speaker 3: picking up for the summer, and this is when movie
Speaker 3: theaters need movies to perform and perform well so they
Speaker 3: will last longer in theaters and they will have more
Speaker 3: of an attendance during the week for the theaters.
Speaker 4: And already with my mic on and already Disney is
Speaker 4: already showing up and showing out as the leader as
Speaker 4: far as the film going experience, because we're starting off
Speaker 4: the summer arguably with the Thunderbolts, and then within the
Speaker 4: next few weeks, well the time Thunderbolts is starting to
Speaker 4: go out, you have the Leelo and Stitch coming in
Speaker 4: and then Leila's watching that. I'm just I'm just talking
Speaker 4: about well live action, so what's keeping the theater alive?
Speaker 4: Mo Lelo and STI. I'm not watching it, am I
Speaker 4: watch going into Fantastic four, I watch that, and then
Speaker 4: we get even more Disney stuff towards the end of
Speaker 4: the year. So again, everyone who wants to right God
Speaker 4: Disney as woke, you better still hope they stay woke.
Speaker 3: Because because if Disney doesn't do well, your favorite movie
Speaker 3: theater will close.
Speaker 2: Period.
Speaker 3: End of discussion. Choose one. It's Later with mo Kelly.
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Speaker 3: YouTube experience. Something else that we've been following for many months,
Speaker 3: more than a year now, the whole P Diddy saga
Speaker 3: and jury selection began today in his federal racketeering sex
Speaker 3: trafficking case. I don't know what's going to happen, but
Speaker 3: I do know it's probably no chance in hell that
Speaker 3: they're going to be able to find jury members who
Speaker 3: don't have some level of awareness or association with the
Speaker 3: career and fame of Sean P.
Speaker 2: Ditty comes.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's just possible, even if you
Speaker 3: weren't directly following the case. It has been major news
Speaker 3: for the past year or so. It's been discussed on
Speaker 3: talk radio that it's been discussed on public TV. It's
Speaker 3: been discussed on obviously commercial TV and cable TV streaming.
Speaker 3: There's no way you can get around it. TMZ has
Speaker 3: had a documentary about it already. There's no way that
Speaker 3: you don't know something about Sean p Didty Kulmmes because
Speaker 3: he's been in the public eye for the past thirty years. Easy,
Speaker 3: we're at the same age, we're born the same month.
Speaker 3: He's maybe twenty days older than me. I say that
Speaker 3: to say it's going to be very difficult for Diddy
Speaker 3: to not get a jury who has not had some
Speaker 3: sort of exposure.
Speaker 2: To this case.
Speaker 3: And despite what anyone may think about him, that is
Speaker 3: not going to help his cause in any way. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to get a conviction
Speaker 3: or to what degree, but I do know it's more
Speaker 3: likely than not that he will probably be convicted because
Speaker 3: what we hear about the case is so very heinous,
Speaker 3: and depending on what's going to be allowed as far
Speaker 3: as witness testimony or witnesses testimonies could be also probative
Speaker 3: and prejudicial, depends on what they allow in or what
Speaker 3: they disallow. I don't know whether he's going to be
Speaker 3: able to get past this because just from what we
Speaker 3: know publicly, there's no telling what prosecutors know which has
Speaker 3: not been revealed because they didn't want that evidence to
Speaker 3: get out. There's evidence that they use to secure the indictment,
Speaker 3: but that's not all the evidence they have. That's not
Speaker 3: the evidence which is going to get a conviction, and
Speaker 3: I'm inclined to believe there's more video tape, more witnesses,
Speaker 3: there's more testimony, there's more seemingly unbelievable accounts of what
Speaker 3: did he allegedly did to a number of people. Now,
Speaker 3: what is helping Diddy in my analysis, is that some
Speaker 3: people who may know about Diddy may not understand the
Speaker 3: difference between a freak off and the alleged criminality because
Speaker 3: I hear it from my friends they say, well, this
Speaker 3: was just consensual sex. Well, he's not being charged with
Speaker 3: consensual sex. He's not being charged with having freak offs
Speaker 3: or sex parties. He's charged with racketeering and sex trafficking.
Speaker 3: And when you have those charges, that says to me,
Speaker 3: especially in federal cases, there's a lot of digital evidence,
Speaker 3: probably video evidence and more, which is going to be
Speaker 3: corroborated by testimonial evidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4: They have some form of wire tracking of transfers of money,
Speaker 4: and all they needed was just a few a few
Speaker 4: of the alleged victims to step up to corroborate not
Speaker 4: stories against Diddy, but coroborate evidence that they had to say, Hey,
Speaker 4: is this you were? You moved from this day to
Speaker 4: this day for the purpose of X, Y and Z. Yes,
Speaker 4: here's the proof. That's it. Let me give an example,
Speaker 4: and don't ask me how I know why this is.
Speaker 4: Just let me give you an example.
Speaker 3: Let's say, for hypothetically speaking, that Diddy hired some sex
Speaker 3: workers in New Jersey to come perform air quotes at
Speaker 3: a party in New York, the state of New York.
Speaker 2: That's crossing sex state lines.
Speaker 3: That is sex trafficking, whether the eventual sex was consensual
Speaker 3: or not.
Speaker 2: So there are levels to this, as they say.
Speaker 4: If his company, the company that he is the head of,
Speaker 4: that he signs checks for every single thing that goes out, Okay,
Speaker 4: doesn't matter who he has working under him, who may
Speaker 4: draft the check, he's got to sign off on it.
Speaker 4: If he has a stable of talent in New York
Speaker 4: and he is going to a music convention in Miami,
Speaker 4: and he has some of this talent in New York
Speaker 4: that he's familiar with fly down to Miami to perform
Speaker 4: at a party, and I only can can speculate what
Speaker 4: happened at the party, even though my speculation comes by
Speaker 4: way of seeing, okay seeing it, actually seeing the things
Speaker 4: that happen at one of these parties funded by his company.
Speaker 3: You've been to a Didty party, I've been to a
Speaker 3: Diddy party. I have not been to the freak Offs,
Speaker 3: but I can tell you the public facing portions of
Speaker 3: the party, a lot of sexual stuff was going on.
Speaker 2: It's a lot at just the public facing. You don't
Speaker 2: have to get invitation to the Apple party. I don't
Speaker 2: know what has happened in any freak Off. I don't
Speaker 2: know to what extent.
Speaker 4: All I know is I have seen talent enter a
Speaker 4: room and perform acts of sex for record executives in DJs.
Speaker 2: I've seen this firsthand.
Speaker 4: So all I'm saying is, even if he wasn't aware
Speaker 4: of these things happening, someone in this company said hey,
Speaker 4: here's a line item, I need us to pay this,
Speaker 4: and that in there could be the smoking gut.
Speaker 3: Awareness does not absolve someone of responsibility or culpability.
Speaker 4: Now, if he can prove that he not only had
Speaker 4: no idea, but had nothing to do with the money,
Speaker 4: and these are individuals that just happened to work for him,
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe that is why he is putting
Speaker 4: in the not guilty plea, because he's like, look, my
Speaker 4: hands are clean. That was Joe Blow, and Joe Blow
Speaker 4: is the one who did it all on Joe Blow.
Speaker 3: This is not unlike This is not unlike the trial,
Speaker 3: the Manhattan trial with Donald Trump, where you have to
Speaker 3: be able to prove a connection to the money which
Speaker 3: was moved or used for a certain particular act. That's
Speaker 3: what the federal prosecutors are going to have to do.
Speaker 3: And since I know that they got the indictment, there's
Speaker 3: something to it, they'll have some evidence to back it up,
Speaker 3: because you just can't get a federal indictment just because
Speaker 3: you don't like P Diddy or you think he's guilty
Speaker 3: of something. They're not going to sign off on the
Speaker 3: grand jury and got the grand jury, they got the
Speaker 3: true bill and so, and now it's going to trial.
Speaker 3: Now they're going to have the actual jury hear this evidence.
Speaker 3: Don't know how it's going to turn out, but the
Speaker 3: odds are against P Diddy. It's Later with mokel and
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about Lady Gaga and that concert
Speaker 3: bomb plot, which to me was amazing but not actually
Speaker 3: surprising playing in just a moment.
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Speaker 3: app and YouTube. Eileen Gonzalez is getting a lot of
Speaker 3: love in the chat. Some of this make it be uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: but she's getting a lot of love, a lot of love.
Speaker 2: Eileen.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the utube stream. And originally we didn't think
Speaker 3: you were going to be joining us on the YouTube stream.
Speaker 3: We thought, since you're filling in for Mark, you may
Speaker 3: not want all the complexities of a camera and how
Speaker 3: that might impact your your newscast.
Speaker 2: You said, no, no, no, bring on a camera, bring it on,
Speaker 2: bring it on. Yeah, like I said, I did news
Speaker 2: for twenty years.
Speaker 3: No, biggie, alrighty, I absolutely love it. So you're you're
Speaker 3: gonna be with us permanently. We can get rid of Mark.
Speaker 2: Now, yep, okay, let's give it a b I absolutely
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 3: Part of the reason as we switch gear is part
Speaker 3: of the reason we like talking about music stories just
Speaker 3: because Tuala has a history connected to the music industry.
Speaker 3: I have a history connected to the music industry in
Speaker 3: different ways. He was in radio and I was in
Speaker 3: the music labels. But we came together when it came
Speaker 3: to concerts, especially either planning them or executing them. When
Speaker 3: I saw this story on the wire talking about there
Speaker 3: was a plot to bomb a free Lady Gaga concert
Speaker 3: this past Saturday in Brazil, it brought to mind a
Speaker 3: lot of concerts and concerns that I've had over the
Speaker 3: years as far as scheduling a concert trying to and
Speaker 3: it's not necessarily even on a terrorism level, we had
Speaker 3: gain problems that we had to worry about. This artist
Speaker 3: was affiliated with this gang, and these other gangs were
Speaker 3: coming to town or coming to the concert and may
Speaker 3: shoot up the play. So I think about all these
Speaker 3: things that you have to worry about, separate and distinct
Speaker 3: the actual artists getting there and performing.
Speaker 4: I remember after nine to eleven, every single concert that
Speaker 4: we did after that, every vehicle had to be thoroughly screened.
Speaker 4: I'm talking cops with them were coming into artists check
Speaker 4: in and they got the mirrors underneath the cars, they
Speaker 4: got the dogs sniffing up complace. And now it's commonplace.
Speaker 4: But I remember beforehand, we were just you know, extreme
Speaker 4: pat downs and things like that. After nine to eleven,
Speaker 4: concert and venue security it became like getting into Fort Knocks,
Speaker 4: and it has not changed. It from my understanding, as
Speaker 4: far as producing concerts, that's one of the biggest expenses.
Speaker 3: It is the insurance involved and trying to prepare for,
Speaker 3: unfortunately the unthinkable. But you have to think about it
Speaker 3: in advance. And I I'm so glad nothing happened. Let
Speaker 3: me be absolutely clear, But according to the story, it says, quote,
Speaker 3: the network promoted the rad radicalization of adolescents, the dissemination
Speaker 3: of hate crimes, self mutilation, and violent content as a
Speaker 3: form of belonging in defiance among young people. And that's
Speaker 3: from a press the least talking about how they managed
Speaker 3: to dismantle a criminal network that operated online. It's always
Speaker 3: been my concern, personal concern when going to a concert
Speaker 3: or a large venue something like that possibly happening. And
Speaker 3: mind you, this is something that we happen to know about.
Speaker 3: I'm quite sure there are plenty of other concerts or
Speaker 3: plenty other plots which were thwarted or just stopped at
Speaker 3: some point in the process, and we the general public
Speaker 3: just never knew about it.
Speaker 4: It's tough because working behind the scenes and working so
Speaker 4: closely with security in the past and working to make
Speaker 4: sure that venues are safe. After a while, you can't
Speaker 4: go anywhere without first eyebaw on the exits, you know,
Speaker 4: looking at the crowd, looking at the dotations of the security,
Speaker 4: making sure that everything is on point.
Speaker 2: And it's tough.
Speaker 4: I can't ever just go and enjoy a show without
Speaker 4: having to be in that mindset of like, okay, I
Speaker 4: was a security patrol on the floor. Is there enough
Speaker 4: adequate security?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: I see an incident over there? Where's security up? Okay, Okay,
Speaker 4: We're off to a bad start. This is the mindset
Speaker 4: that I now have, And when I see this story,
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 3: I walk into a room if there are a lot
Speaker 3: of people, and I'm thinking like, okay, where the exits,
Speaker 3: Like you, is there adequate security? I'm looking at generally
Speaker 3: the clientele who looks out of place, and if something
Speaker 3: jumps off, where where's my first route of escape. It's
Speaker 3: one thing to recognize where the exits are. It's another
Speaker 3: thing to know that or position yourself accordingly where you
Speaker 3: can actually get there. Because I've seen and there are
Speaker 3: another things you have to worry about. It could be
Speaker 3: a mass shooting, it could be a domestic violence situation.
Speaker 3: I've seen that, and that escalates out of control. It
Speaker 3: could be an act of terrorism, it could be just
Speaker 3: some a fight that breaks out and people start running.
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many times I've been in
Speaker 3: a movie theater like outside and either to be someone
Speaker 3: shooting or someone starts running. And if you've ever been
Speaker 3: in that situation when someone starts running, you don't stop.
Speaker 2: To say, hey, what's going on here? Why is everyone running?
Speaker 3: No, you better run your ass too to get away
Speaker 3: from whatever is going on over there. And then people
Speaker 3: might end up getting trampled.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I know there are some who would say, well,
Speaker 4: it's Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga, she may have attracted it
Speaker 4: because of her imagery and some of the things.
Speaker 2: It ain't got nothing to do with Lady Gaga.
Speaker 4: It just happened to be that she was doing a
Speaker 4: humongoush show and it would have made the perfect target
Speaker 4: for anyone to make a name for themselves. But this
Speaker 4: could happen to anyone your favorite artists if they are
Speaker 4: huge and drawing a big crowd.
Speaker 3: I promise you this a crowd. They are at a target. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the crowd, it's not the artist. If you got
Speaker 3: fifty thousand people who were captive and I mean that
Speaker 3: a captive audience of fifty thousand people or however how
Speaker 3: many inherently they're a target.
Speaker 2: Oh, I have to go and look it up.
Speaker 4: But there was I remember when the Taylor Swift tour
Speaker 4: was up and running that there were plenty of threats
Speaker 4: that were going out to that why they had to
Speaker 4: like postpone Certain shows move because of threats, just general threats.
Speaker 3: It happens. It just happens. This is a society that
Speaker 3: we live in now, unfortunately, unfortunately, and there's no going back.
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Speaker 3: And before we get out of here, let me do
Speaker 3: this final thought. And I've been thinking about this all
Speaker 3: day long, and I wanted to be clear on how
Speaker 3: I wanted to present it.
Speaker 2: But I was.
Speaker 3: Thinking about the movie industry, something we talk about every
Speaker 3: single day on this show some form or another, but
Speaker 3: usually it's it's not connected to politics, not always, but
Speaker 3: not frequently, but now it is. And I learned a
Speaker 3: long long time ago it's not what you do it's
Speaker 3: how you go about it. It's not what you say,
Speaker 3: but how you say it and the words you choose.
Speaker 3: The Trump tariffs, as I said before in previous commentaries,
Speaker 3: you know the previous Trump tariffs, Those will impact all
Speaker 3: of us in every facet of life if they come
Speaker 3: to pass. We still have this grace period before they
Speaker 3: may all take effect.
Speaker 2: And there's no real argument here.
Speaker 3: Those terroifts, if they take effect, will impact all of us.
Speaker 3: But just like where it's not what you do and
Speaker 3: what you say necessarily, it's also true that just because
Speaker 3: a problem is legitimate, and trade imbalance is a legitimate
Speaker 3: issue and it needs to be solved, just because the
Speaker 3: issue is legitimate, it doesn't mean that any old proposed
Speaker 3: solution is the solution. In the past day, President Trump
Speaker 3: announced the following quote. I am authorizing the Department of
Speaker 3: Commerce and the United States Trade Representative to immediately begin
Speaker 3: the process of instituting a one hundred percent tariff on
Speaker 3: any and all movies coming into our country that are
Speaker 3: produced in foreign lands quote close quote. But he also
Speaker 3: said we want movies made in America again. Now, contrary
Speaker 3: to the President's popular belief, tariffs are not the magic
Speaker 3: pill for everything. But going back to it's not what
Speaker 3: you say, it's how you say it, and it's not
Speaker 3: what you do, but how you go about it. The
Speaker 3: President didn't either give the movie studios an he heads
Speaker 3: up or consult them as to what movie studios and
Speaker 3: theaters thought the problems of their industry were. He may
Speaker 3: think Tarif's or the solution, but they aren't, not at all.
Speaker 2: Here's what I mean.
Speaker 3: Virtually every media stock was down today because they were
Speaker 3: blindsided by this.
Speaker 2: And I'm inclined to.
Speaker 3: Believe the movie studios know their industry better than the
Speaker 3: president or any president. And here's some else which has
Speaker 3: gotten lost in this what I call tariff everything approach.
Speaker 3: Movies aren't goods anymore. They're services. They're distributed digitally. They're
Speaker 3: quote unquote manufactured in dozens of places simultaneously, not just
Speaker 3: where they're filmed.
Speaker 2: Post production effects, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Are usually done any number of places around the world
Speaker 3: for the same movie, regardless of filming locations. So you
Speaker 3: may have a movie which is filmed in America, like Atlanta, Georgia,
Speaker 3: for example. Most of the Marvel movies are now filmed
Speaker 3: in Atlanta, Georgia. Take Captain America Brave New World are
Speaker 3: used as an example, filmed mostly in Atlanta, but there
Speaker 3: were some scenes which were filmed in Wahaka, Mexico, Tokyo, Japan,
Speaker 3: and in the Middle East in Jordan. Now, are we
Speaker 3: gonna penalize a movie like that or how about a
Speaker 3: movie like Mission Impossible, which routinely films at exata locations
Speaker 3: around the world. Does that make those movies less of
Speaker 3: an American movie? And maybe it's post production is completed
Speaker 3: by an international agency that is commonplace. You can't film
Speaker 3: a Mission Impossible movie all on location in America or
Speaker 3: some sound stage or with CGI, and honestly, you and
Speaker 3: I don't want that. There's also the reality that it
Speaker 3: costs much less to film internationally, and that's part of
Speaker 3: the labor issue. But putting tariffs, and here's the main point,
Speaker 3: putting tariffs on foreign air quote, foreign movies, whatever that means,
Speaker 3: doesn't address any of that. You may have heard that
Speaker 3: the President blames Governor Gavin Newsom for this. Well, I
Speaker 3: would like to blame Governor Gavin Newsom for a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff. But this is not understanding the problem. This
Speaker 3: says that President Trump doesn't understand that movies and movie
Speaker 3: studios are no longer a Hollywood phenomenon. One of the
Speaker 3: biggest complaints about NEWSOM is that a lot of Hollywood
Speaker 3: has left for other states. I'm talking states like Georgia.
Speaker 3: Talked about Marvel, North Carolina, and Louisiana. Movies, American movies
Speaker 3: are not just made in California. The infrastructure to make
Speaker 3: these movies, both big and small, are not necessarily connected
Speaker 3: to California at all. You have a movie like Russ
Speaker 3: with Alec Baldwin has made in New Mexico. Movies routinely
Speaker 3: are not made in California. And that's saying nothing of
Speaker 3: the TV shows which shoot in various places around the
Speaker 3: country and even internationally in Canada, which is a frequent
Speaker 3: stand in for US cities. Are these terriffs going to
Speaker 3: be placed on television shows?
Speaker 2: Again?
Speaker 3: How does that work? But this speaks to how you
Speaker 3: go about it. This speaks to how the powerbrokers should
Speaker 3: have been consulted first before announcing a policy which likely
Speaker 3: will not bring about the desired result because it hasn't
Speaker 3: been thought through and constructed with the actual industry players.
Speaker 3: He's alleging he trying to help and Lastly, just like
Speaker 3: the tariffs on goods, the other countries will have the
Speaker 3: opportunity to respond. China routinely denies entry of American movies,
Speaker 3: as do Russia and Taiwan. Some countries do not rely
Speaker 3: on our movies and don't care. They do not give
Speaker 3: a damn and they don't need America to show our
Speaker 3: They don't need America to show their movies. I bet
Speaker 3: you most people listening right now have no idea what
Speaker 3: the number one movie in the world is. It's made
Speaker 3: over two billion dollars in twenty twenty five, and I'm
Speaker 3: probably pronouncing it wrong. It's ne Jah two, more than
Speaker 3: two billion dollars, not one million of which was made.
Speaker 2: Here in the United States.
Speaker 3: This issue is far more complicated than getting on social
Speaker 3: media and proclaiming tariffs on everyone.
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