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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven to nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a few days away from another game day for

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<v Speaker 2>the Louisville Cardinals, and we'll have you covered for game

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<v Speaker 2>day coverage the Louisville Football Postgame Show I'm starting. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>for an hour. At noon it's kickoff, and then as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as the game ends, we'll start the Louisville Football

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<v Speaker 2>dot Com. So hopefully we will have as much interaction

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<v Speaker 2>as we did last week, full phone lines throughout, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was of course people you know, reacting, mostly expressing

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<v Speaker 2>frustration and you know, just needing to vent and we're

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<v Speaker 2>always here for that. But I hope we have the

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<v Speaker 2>same type of reaction, meaning the same the same amount

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<v Speaker 2>of people wanting to, you know, be a part of

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<v Speaker 2>the show. But it's because you're feeling good, You're feeling

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<v Speaker 2>as if this team, you know, took a step forward,

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<v Speaker 2>and I, you know, I hope that, uh, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>they will when it comes to like confidence level. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>asked me this last night, you know, I mean, how

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<v Speaker 2>you're feeling about. I mean, I to me, it just

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<v Speaker 2>comes down to are they going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>play a clean game? And when I say clean game,

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<v Speaker 2>I just mean limit avoidable mistakes, right, Don't snap the

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<v Speaker 2>ball over the punter's head, don't bowel an easy first

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<v Speaker 2>down that ends up in a in an interception, hold

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<v Speaker 2>on ball, toll, fumble it. And that's not just players,

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<v Speaker 2>that's coaches. I mean just being you know, don't get

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, don't get a silly penalty, don't be

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I the one thing I'm still kind of

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<v Speaker 2>torn about is like I have no problem with Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>bro I'm going forward and fourth down because that's just

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<v Speaker 2>what he's gonna do. And honestly, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know this, to be honest with you, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how big of an analytics guy that Jeff is,

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<v Speaker 2>but analytics or not, I feel like when it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a yard or two, you know it's a risk, but

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<v Speaker 2>you have a better chance of getting it than not

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<v Speaker 2>getting it. Now again, if you don't get it, you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta you're gonna pay for it. We all know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, just just tighten it up, come out sharp.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hope that they will, and I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that I think that they will. But I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just basing that off of of hope, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being a fan. On one side, it's it's not something

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna take a whole lot to fix. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>like you got to go in the weight room or

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<v Speaker 2>hit the practice field or go recruit. I mean, avoiding

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<v Speaker 2>avoidable mistakes is just you know, it's an easy fix.

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<v Speaker 2>But they've now done it in the two games they've

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<v Speaker 2>played against real teams. And if you do it a

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<v Speaker 2>third game doesn't mean you can't eventually tighten it up

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<v Speaker 2>and get it fixed. But it also just becomes your identity.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm confident because I think this team has all

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<v Speaker 2>the pieces to go out and win this game by

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of touchdowns. But you know, will that happen,

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<v Speaker 2>We will see, all right. It's Coffee and Company Field

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<v Speaker 2>seven one seventy nine hundred is the number. If you

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<v Speaker 2>get back into Louisville football, because there's a good text

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<v Speaker 2>that comes in that I want to get to. But

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<v Speaker 2>this stat is is crazy. I know we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>it a couple of weeks ago, but it's only getting

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<v Speaker 2>worse for the Carolina Panthers. You know, their quarterback that

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<v Speaker 2>they drafted with the first overall pick just a season

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<v Speaker 2>ago has already been benched. And Andy Dalton, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he's Andy Dalton, but like they did win one game,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was electric in that game, three touchdowns over

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred yards. I don't know what his stats were

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<v Speaker 2>like for the I don't know what his stats look

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<v Speaker 2>like in the Cincinnati game, but I watched that game

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of it, and you know he was making

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<v Speaker 2>some plays. He's clearly not your franchise, but like to

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<v Speaker 2>know that you drafted a guy with the first overall pick, which,

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<v Speaker 2>to be fair to the Panthers, most teams would have

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<v Speaker 2>done that. Most teams who had the number one pick

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<v Speaker 2>would have taken Bryce Young. But you're the team that

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<v Speaker 2>did it, and right now it looks like a really

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<v Speaker 2>bad investment. We'll see, though, because maybe he ends up

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<v Speaker 2>landing elsewhere, or maybe he ends up getting another opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>in a year or so and he really looks the

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<v Speaker 2>part and starts to help you win. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be confident in that if I was a Panthers fan,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, it's early in his career. So what's wild

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<v Speaker 2>here is that the two quarterbacks that lead the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>in passing touchdowns were on the Panthers roster when they

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<v Speaker 2>decided to go in a different direction and draft Bryce Young.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield are number one and number

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<v Speaker 2>two with nineteen combined touchdowns. And to you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>think that they'd be having that same success in Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>no way, Carolina is a mess. I mean, Darnald, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really know what explains his success in Minnesota. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he certainly got a really good weapon in Justin Jefferson,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've got clearly a good young coach who looks

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<v Speaker 2>like he's gonna have a really good future in the NFL. Baker,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Baker, I think has just found a good

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<v Speaker 2>fit for him and he's really thriving. But like it's

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<v Speaker 2>still knowing that, knowing if those were your quarterbacks right now,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably still would be very good. But to see

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<v Speaker 2>them succeeding elsewhere, it's got to eat at you if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a Panthers fan. But maybe you can look at

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<v Speaker 2>what they've done and realize, Okay, yeah, we benched our

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback after two games and he'd only played what eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>games in his career and we decided to bench him. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he could be Baker or Darnold. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, like those guys had to move

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<v Speaker 2>on to get a fresh start. It would be so

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<v Speaker 2>demoralizing knowing that, hey, you're, you know, the quarterback, the

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<v Speaker 2>player is not the problem. It's your franchise. Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a mess. It would suck to be a Panthers fan,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure, all right. So coming up here at

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<v Speaker 2>four point thirty, we're going to talk a little SMU

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville with someone who covers the SMU Mustangs, Billy and Body,

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<v Speaker 2>who is a beat writer covering the Mustangs for on

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<v Speaker 2>the Pony that's part of the SMU network or not

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<v Speaker 2>the SU the on three network, it's the on three

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<v Speaker 2>SMU SI. So he'll join us coming up here in

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty minutes, and I'm eager to hear what he

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<v Speaker 2>thinks about this matchup. I mean SMU had some momentum

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<v Speaker 2>whenever they started the season. A lot of people looked

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<v Speaker 2>at them as a team that would adjust well, and

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't look like they were going to early on.

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<v Speaker 2>But now here they are in a pretty good spot.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you remember, you know, their quarterback, Preston Stone,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was a guy that was getting a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of love coming off a really good season, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was so bad in his first two starts. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was I don't know if he got two

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<v Speaker 2>starts for three starts, but they benched him. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it might have been just after two games and they

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they probably ever felt like he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be, you know, the guy for them, but

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<v Speaker 2>sure enough, he's been a huge factor in them getting

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<v Speaker 2>it turned around. And you heard Jeff Brom talk about

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<v Speaker 2>him earlier this week in his press conference, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he's doing what a lot of coaches do,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just respecting the opponent in realize saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to come ready to play. This guy can

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<v Speaker 2>cause some problems for us. But Kevin Jennings, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's six foot tall, one hundred and eighty nine pounds,

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<v Speaker 2>not a big guy, but he's they have become a

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<v Speaker 2>much better team when he has been leading that offense.

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<v Speaker 2>His numbers don't wow you, but certainly they're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're impressive. But it's not as if this guy has

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<v Speaker 2>single handedly, with his individual accomplishments, changed SMU. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>working for him and they've got some momentum. So again

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk SMU coming up here at four point thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to text line BABO two six ' five

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<v Speaker 2>If you guys would like to to interact, questions, complaints, compliments, insults, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to shoot him. In this text says Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>of all the critical mistakes that were made, which one

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<v Speaker 2>is still haunting you five days later? I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>which one. They're all terrible. I mean, there's not one,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think the worst of them all as

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<v Speaker 2>far as like, geez, how did you let that happen?

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be the last one. You're down thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one to twenty four midfield, just a minute to play.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a chance to convert a fourth and one

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<v Speaker 2>to extend the drive and potentially get a score and

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<v Speaker 2>tie it up. But I mean, to get the delay

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<v Speaker 2>of game was just a mean unreal. So that one,

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<v Speaker 2>that one's probably the most like you got to be

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<v Speaker 2>kidding me, because then you had the fourth and six

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<v Speaker 2>and Chuck tried to make a play, tried to connect

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<v Speaker 2>with I think Colin Lacy falls in complete turned it

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<v Speaker 2>over games over, But I think at that point, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, I shouldn't say I wasn't like surprised,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's really like any pro like take a Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. Any team having that penalty in that

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<v Speaker 2>situation is just inexcusable, And I don't think anybody on

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<v Speaker 2>the Louisville side would disagree. But you'd had so many

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<v Speaker 2>silly mistakes already that you know it kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't surprise me. I mean it did, but it didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put it this way, there were so many mistakes

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<v Speaker 2>that should have not happened, avoidable mistakes that I just assumed,

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<v Speaker 2>like I never in the second half, I never really

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<v Speaker 2>felt like they were gonna win it, because I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>thinking to myself, the yeah, it's gonna be tough to

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<v Speaker 2>overcome the hole that you've dug, and yeah, you're making

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<v Speaker 2>some progress. You didn't let him score in the third quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>You certainly can win the game. But it's just very

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<v Speaker 2>improbable to have that many mistakes happen and still win.

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<v Speaker 2>And sure enough, that's how it played out. So that

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<v Speaker 2>one's probably the worst overall. But that's not the one

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<v Speaker 2>that sticks out to me. The one that sticks out

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<v Speaker 2>to me is actually something that you might be able

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<v Speaker 2>to chalk up as a fluke. I mean, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to catch the ball if you're Jacory Brooks, but we

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<v Speaker 2>know he can catch the ball. But he had a

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<v Speaker 2>rare bobbled ball that ended up as an interception which

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<v Speaker 2>let them score. So that's the one that I again,

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<v Speaker 2>of all of the mistakes that you just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>agree just because that stuff just happens. That's football and

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<v Speaker 2>you can say any mistake they made is just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>chalk it up. It happens, but to have that many

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<v Speaker 2>is inexcusable. Snapping it over the punter's head. That comes

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<v Speaker 2>But those are plays that again you still have to

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<v Speaker 2>it over the punter's head or in that situation, getting

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<v Speaker 2>a delay a game. But the one that, again I

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<v Speaker 2>no way you come back from this, was that that

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<v Speaker 2>or back to the text line. This text says Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>is it fair to say that Tyler Schuck is Louisville's

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<v Speaker 2>best quarterback since Lamar Jackson? He's only played four games,

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<v Speaker 2>only two games against the legitimate teams, at least teams

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, you've heard of or you're aware of

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<v Speaker 2>that could potentially give you some trouble. So it's insanely

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<v Speaker 2>premature to say that, but I'm gonna say it. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been so impressed with him in both the games against

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<v Speaker 2>referenced a big mistake that he made, but yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 2>really good arm. I like that he's not afraid to

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<v Speaker 2>take risks. I mean the touchdown pass that he had

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<v Speaker 2>to Corey Brooks at the beginning of the game where

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<v Speaker 2>he got rocked. I mean, to even make that, to

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<v Speaker 2>even try to make that pass is crazy, and he

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<v Speaker 2>did it and it was a dime. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>realistically speaking, we're gonna have to wait and see because

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<v Speaker 2>it's still early and you've only played two games against

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate competition. Not to say what he did against the

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<v Speaker 2>Bums wasn't a good sign, but I feel like as

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<v Speaker 2>far as a talent perspective, yeah, then, And look, I

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<v Speaker 2>know that Malik cunning him had a great run here,

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<v Speaker 2>and who knows what Louisville football would have been under

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Sadderfield without him, But I don't know it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably unfair of me to say that, given that

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<v Speaker 2>Malik played here for five years and was effective as

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<v Speaker 2>far as a guy that can make some place for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But with Malik two things that stand out that just

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that top tier, not the elite tier, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's a top tier quarterbacks here, and who knows, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Shuck ends up snaking the rest of the season. I

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<v Speaker 2>highly doubt that. But with Malik, he wasn't consistent, and

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<v Speaker 2>playing power five football at the quarterback position, you can

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<v Speaker 2>make play with your armor, you wouldn't be there. What

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<v Speaker 2>separates you is consistency and decision making, and he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>great at that, but he could make up to that

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<v Speaker 2>at times by being able to take off and run.

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<v Speaker 2>And we probably were not as impressed as we should

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<v Speaker 2>have been, and certainly not as impressed as most other

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<v Speaker 2>plays with his legs because he followed up a guy

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<v Speaker 2>named Lamar Jackson, who, in my opinion, is the best

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<v Speaker 2>to ever do it when it comes to making a

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<v Speaker 2>play at the quarterback position with your legs. But he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't consistent and this may not be his fault. This

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<v Speaker 2>we could I mean, we'll never know. We can blame

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<v Speaker 2>it on Saturfield if you want, But I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>feel like with with set, with with with Malie, he

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<v Speaker 2>never there was never a big moment like he played

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<v Speaker 2>here a long time. I can't remember like the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>game he played in where Louisville won. It would have

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<v Speaker 2>to be a bowl game. I think when they played

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<v Speaker 2>Mississippi State in SAT's first year. And in SAT's first year,

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<v Speaker 2>he was very efficient, he really connected with two good

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<v Speaker 2>big time play I mean that offense was talented man.

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<v Speaker 2>Javian Hawkins was really good. I mean he's a very

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<v Speaker 2>forgotten player, but Javian Hawkins was good. And then Marshawn

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<v Speaker 2>Ford had a breakout year and then obviously to two atwell,

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<v Speaker 2>who's still making plays in the NFL. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a fun year because it was coming off

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<v Speaker 2>a two win season year one for SAT. But at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, I mean, you'd have to still put Malik

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of Chuck just because Chuck's four games into his career.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't be shocked at the end of this year,

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<v Speaker 2>even if Louisville doesn't have a ten win season or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that, I feel like we'll look back and say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that quarterback Jeff brought in here was pretty special. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you guys picked up on this,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is another one of the texts that came in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he might have come in on the post

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<v Speaker 2>game show and I just forgot to highlight it and

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<v Speaker 2>bring it up because it's a good question. But I

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<v Speaker 2>did hear the broadcaster on the Peacock Network on the

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<v Speaker 2>Cock Jason Garrett, and I don't even know who does

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<v Speaker 2>play by play, but they were talking about what Brom

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<v Speaker 2>had told them ahead of the game about Tyler Shuck.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Brom, I don't know if he's ever

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<v Speaker 2>said what they shared. It makes sense, but they they

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<v Speaker 2>gave us some specifics as far as you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>just that he did it because he needed to. He

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<v Speaker 2>loves the idea of a veteran quarterback with one year

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<v Speaker 2>to play. He told them that he said he loves

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<v Speaker 2>a guy coming in with one year left that's hungry

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<v Speaker 2>and has experience. You don't have to do a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of development. It's really about polishing up some things. So

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be shocked if, like, for the foreseeable future,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what brom does every year, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>no problem with it. I don't. I know, people want

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<v Speaker 2>to see Pierce Clarkson get a run, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that'd be great, I really do. But you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff is evaluating the quarterback position and he decides to

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<v Speaker 2>go out and get one of the big big names

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<v Speaker 2>in the portal, that's a veteran instead of just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not recruiting a quarterback in the portal and handing the

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<v Speaker 2>reins to Pierce Clarkson. I think that tells you that

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff feels as if their best chance of having success

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<v Speaker 2>is to go back to go back to the same route.

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<v Speaker 2>And last year, I know it didn't. I mean again,

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<v Speaker 2>to say it didn't work out with Plumber really is unfair.

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville was a good team last year. They won ten games,

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<v Speaker 2>finished in the top fifteen when it was all said

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<v Speaker 2>and done, and he was the guy under center during

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<v Speaker 2>that time. So like Jack deserves credit for being the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback for a team that did that, but at times

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<v Speaker 2>we felt like he was the weakness. So to say

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<v Speaker 2>that it didn't work out, would be unfair, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>just the risky take, right. There'll be some guys. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a list in front of me, but

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<v Speaker 2>there are dudes who took advantage of their fourth year,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a fifth year, and they went elsewhere and they

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<v Speaker 2>were worse at a new school, and it just it

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<v Speaker 2>was a head scratcher. Who was the guy Phil Jerkovic

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<v Speaker 2>who was pretty good at Boston College, a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>looked like he might be an NFL draft pick. He

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<v Speaker 2>goes to Pitt Stunk got benched. I mean that's just

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<v Speaker 2>one example. But yeah, I wouldn't be shocked, if shocked

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<v Speaker 2>if Jeff is every year looking at a guy like

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<v Speaker 2>Shuck who's played a lot, has a good arm, has talent,

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<v Speaker 2>but just because of circumstances, he's looking for a new opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think most quarterbacks would want to finish their

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<v Speaker 2>career with Jeff. Not to say he'll get anybody who wants,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean, if I was a quarterback, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be pretty fun to lead an offense with that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Call in the place, all right, quick break, We'll come

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<v Speaker 2>back on the other side and bring him in from behind.

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<v Speaker 2>Enemy lins. That's what Benetti used to say all the

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<v Speaker 2>time when he hosted The Underdogs whenever they would talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the you know, they would preview a matchup, but

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<v Speaker 2>skill behind anemy lines. And I remember thinking like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really clever, and then I realized, like everybody says

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<v Speaker 2>that anyways, we're gonna do it going behind anemy lines.

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<v Speaker 2>Here with Bill Embodie, who covers SMU. He'll join us

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<v Speaker 2>next right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. We're about

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<v Speaker 2>halfway through a Wednesday edition of Coffee and Company. Appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's bring them in to talk this Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>on the Pony Express. Bill, how you doing this afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>and appreciate you taking time to join us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks so much for having me. I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>So I started the show kind of highlighting how this

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<v Speaker 2>for SMU. You know, Louisville's got Louis's got to play

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<v Speaker 2>like when it comes to the SMU side of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously a little bit of a of a of an

414
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<v Speaker 2>unexpected start going one in one and the first win

415
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<v Speaker 2>was a close win against Nevada, But obviously this team

416
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<v Speaker 2>has turned things around. Do you do you get the

417
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<v Speaker 2>sense that fans feel like this is a big time

418
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<v Speaker 2>game for him coming up on Saturday.

419
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, this is a huge game for SMU. I mean,

420
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<v Speaker 4>now that they've gotten past TCU, they've gotten past Florida

421
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<v Speaker 4>State and kind of rebounded from what was a tough

422
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<v Speaker 4>loss to BYU, which we've found out as a really

423
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<v Speaker 4>good team. You're looking at a program that feels like

424
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<v Speaker 4>it can be in contention for the a SEC Championship.

425
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<v Speaker 4>You know, regardless of how down Florida State is or

426
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<v Speaker 4>tc going on that two game skid from UCF to SMU,

427
00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:29.640
<v Speaker 4>this is a team that has proven they don't need

428
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<v Speaker 4>to be the biggest, strongest team like a Florida State is.

429
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<v Speaker 4>They can play with technique they can play with fundamentals

430
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<v Speaker 4>and they play really really hard football, and that is

431
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<v Speaker 4>what has carried their run the last two weeks, along

432
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<v Speaker 4>with a change of quarterback with Kevin Jennings being the

433
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<v Speaker 4>starter now and playing really really well, you know, averaging

434
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<v Speaker 4>around seventy one percent completion percentage is two starts, which

435
00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:56.640
<v Speaker 4>is really strong. He's settled down, he's he's not turned

436
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<v Speaker 4>the ball over like he has at times earlier in

437
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<v Speaker 4>his career.

438
00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:01.039
<v Speaker 3>This is a.

439
00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:04.440
<v Speaker 4>Team that's improving each each and ever game. So they've

440
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<v Speaker 4>got a tough test against Louisville. It could very well

441
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<v Speaker 4>be the toughest game on their schedule. Then BYU is

442
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<v Speaker 4>a tough one, but that's the way that Cardinals are

443
00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:16.720
<v Speaker 4>playing right now, even despite losing that game to Notre Dame.

444
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<v Speaker 4>This is one that most SME fans in the SESME teams.

445
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<v Speaker 4>He has a huge matchup and a tough one.

446
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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Kevin Jennings taken over for Preston Stone. I mean,

447
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<v Speaker 2>if I'd have told you before the season started that

448
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<v Speaker 2>you'd be in this position, as with SMU having just

449
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<v Speaker 2>one loss and that loss being to a BYU team

450
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<v Speaker 2>that's actually looking really good at five and oh, I

451
00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:36.240
<v Speaker 2>mean they're playing really good football. That's certainly not a

452
00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:38.240
<v Speaker 2>bad loss at all. But if I told you you'd

453
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<v Speaker 2>be here and Preston Stone wouldn't have been the quarterback,

454
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<v Speaker 2>Am I wrong to think that would have been a

455
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<v Speaker 2>huge shocker.

456
00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:47.519
<v Speaker 4>You know, from the national side of things, and from

457
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<v Speaker 4>maybe some casual sme fans, it might have been shocking.

458
00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:53.559
<v Speaker 2>He had a lot of hype in the season.

459
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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like.

460
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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely absolutely had a lot of hype.

461
00:23:57.680 --> 00:23:59.759
<v Speaker 4>He did a lot of really good things for SMEU.

462
00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he really stepped up in conference play and

463
00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:05.680
<v Speaker 4>set themselves up, you know, to be in that AAC

464
00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:06.559
<v Speaker 4>championship and.

465
00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:08.359
<v Speaker 3>Was playing his best football when he went down.

466
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<v Speaker 4>But it is a big jump up, and he's a

467
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<v Speaker 4>veteran quarterback who you know is kind of is who

468
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:19.519
<v Speaker 4>he is in a sense. And Kevin meanwhile, just kept working.

469
00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:23.119
<v Speaker 4>He came in that AAC championship game, had some turnovers,

470
00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:26.160
<v Speaker 4>but directed the offense to score enough against a tough

471
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:28.920
<v Speaker 4>two A team to win. That really boosted a lot

472
00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:31.480
<v Speaker 4>of people's confidence in him. He played well in the

473
00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:35.519
<v Speaker 4>bowl game despite the loss and torrential you know, downpour

474
00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:39.960
<v Speaker 4>at times and adverse conditions and a team that you know,

475
00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.119
<v Speaker 4>kind of wasn't focused on the ball game that a

476
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.880
<v Speaker 4>lot of the coaches were focused on recruiting the transfer

477
00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:49.279
<v Speaker 4>portal for the ACC quite frankly, and they they just

478
00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:51.799
<v Speaker 4>kind of let him compete and keep it getting better.

479
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.119
<v Speaker 4>And when I talked about it in fall camp on

480
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<v Speaker 4>our message board, a lot of people were surprised as well,

481
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:02.000
<v Speaker 4>you know that it was a competition. They are competing,

482
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<v Speaker 4>But that's the jump that Kevin has made over the

483
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:09.440
<v Speaker 4>last year, and you know change being on campus is

484
00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:11.880
<v Speaker 4>he's just continued to get better and better, and he's

485
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:16.079
<v Speaker 4>very very calm back there. He doesn't necessarily let anything

486
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:20.119
<v Speaker 4>rattle him. And so when things weren't going well and

487
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, pressing for you know, many reasons it wasn't

488
00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:25.799
<v Speaker 4>just on him wasn't getting it done, they went to

489
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:28.559
<v Speaker 4>Kevin and it was kind of clear throughout the year

490
00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:31.000
<v Speaker 4>when he got his opportunities that it was time for

491
00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:34.400
<v Speaker 4>him to take over. But he's kind of been working

492
00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:37.680
<v Speaker 4>towards this for the better part of eight months now

493
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.559
<v Speaker 4>to be in this role. And it's not necessarily too

494
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:44.640
<v Speaker 4>surprising because it was a huge step up for SMU

495
00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:47.720
<v Speaker 4>to get to these level of games and to be competitive,

496
00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:50.519
<v Speaker 4>they ultimately needed to make a change.

497
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:54.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, making that step up to the ACC. SMU

498
00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:56.519
<v Speaker 2>is one of three new members to the league. Let's

499
00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:58.039
<v Speaker 2>go back in time a little bit. What was that

500
00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:00.160
<v Speaker 2>process like to kind of see this thing? I mean,

501
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.079
<v Speaker 2>conference alignment's been a crazy circus for many, many years now.

502
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:05.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean two years ago. If you'd have told me

503
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:07.599
<v Speaker 2>that those three teams, cal Stanford and SMU would be

504
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:09.680
<v Speaker 2>in the ACC, I certainly would have believed you. But maybe,

505
00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:11.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, I should have at that time known to

506
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:14.400
<v Speaker 2>just expect the unexpected from the SMU side. You know,

507
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 2>this was a step up for them obviously the ACC

508
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:19.519
<v Speaker 2>doesn't you know. The future of the league has been

509
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:21.480
<v Speaker 2>talked about quite a bit with lawsuits that have been

510
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:23.839
<v Speaker 2>filed by Clemson in Florida State. But I get the

511
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:26.680
<v Speaker 2>sense that SMU feels feels good about where they are

512
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:29.759
<v Speaker 2>in their first year in the ACC, and then there

513
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:32.680
<v Speaker 2>was a really unusual scenario where they were okay with

514
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:36.759
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily getting a full share of revenue right away.

515
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, am I wrong to say that SMU is

516
00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:42.680
<v Speaker 2>a really rare program to where everybody's fighting for money

517
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:44.319
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like if they need money, they've got

518
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:46.319
<v Speaker 2>no problem getting it from outside sources.

519
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

520
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:51.720
<v Speaker 4>No, they are very much in good shape. You know,

521
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:55.000
<v Speaker 4>that's a credit to the donors and all of the

522
00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.799
<v Speaker 4>support system that they have in place, to credit to

523
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:01.720
<v Speaker 4>their university for run it the right way in terms

524
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:05.599
<v Speaker 4>of you know, not having millions and millions and millions

525
00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 4>of dollars in debt or dead coaching salaries and things

526
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:08.839
<v Speaker 4>like that.

527
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:13.599
<v Speaker 3>They're in a position where they they are, you know, really.

528
00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:15.839
<v Speaker 4>In a good spot to do this. So when the

529
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 4>booster said, Okay, they're not going to get all of

530
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:22.839
<v Speaker 4>the media revenue from the ACC, that's the way they've

531
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 4>got to do it to make it work. You know,

532
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 4>the success initiatives from the ACC, those are paid for

533
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:32.079
<v Speaker 4>by SMU. Basically, you know, the the thirty plus million

534
00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:36.119
<v Speaker 4>dollars that SMU is foregoing a year that's going to

535
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.720
<v Speaker 4>those success initiatives and then being sprinkled out, you know

536
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.039
<v Speaker 4>among the schools as they've been added to the TV contract.

537
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:43.960
<v Speaker 3>But where the boosters have stepped.

538
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.960
<v Speaker 4>In is they said, okay, we'll fill that void for SMU,

539
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 4>so that SMU is getting you know, fifty fifty something

540
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 4>million dollars in new revenue a year from those donations

541
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.960
<v Speaker 4>on top of what they were already doing for facilities

542
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:01.440
<v Speaker 4>and coaching salaries and even you know, building out the

543
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 4>acc network control centers that need to be on campus.

544
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:06.720
<v Speaker 4>That was twenty two million dollars.

545
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 3>That they got. They got that bill after the fact.

546
00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.720
<v Speaker 4>So they they're in just such a really good position

547
00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 4>where yes, they need other people to obviously help and contribute,

548
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.839
<v Speaker 4>but they have that group of billionaires and in particular

549
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 4>the First Week Society that raised one hundred million dollars

550
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.640
<v Speaker 4>in seven days to step up and put SMU in

551
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.000
<v Speaker 4>this position. And yeah, they don't care about the Clemson

552
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:32.599
<v Speaker 4>Florida State lawsuits. You know that they feel like this

553
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 4>league is going to be stable and going to be

554
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:38.000
<v Speaker 4>in a position where even if one day they do

555
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.799
<v Speaker 4>leave or they do get out, it's it's a better

556
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 4>situation than what SMU is in. There's no question about

557
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.960
<v Speaker 4>that in the American and they feel like this is

558
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 4>an opportunity now where like they're being competitive, beating TCU,

559
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:54.319
<v Speaker 4>beating Florida State. If they can keep that up and

560
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:57.839
<v Speaker 4>show their worth, you know, they're a school that will

561
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 4>be wanted by whoever, even something you know, catastrophic kind

562
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.119
<v Speaker 4>of happens to the ACC. One day they'll be they'll

563
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 4>be in good shape to be on the right side

564
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 4>of this you know haves and have not discussion that

565
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 4>will obviously continue to go on for years and years.

566
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 4>But that's the investment level that they're making, and they're

567
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:20.039
<v Speaker 4>they're committed to winning at a at as high of

568
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:22.359
<v Speaker 4>a level as they can get to, and I think

569
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.480
<v Speaker 4>they've got a pretty good ceiling now that they're you know,

570
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:26.559
<v Speaker 4>in a power conference.

571
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>It's fascinating to me because you know, money's always mattered

572
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.079
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to college athletics. Resources have always mattered,

573
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.799
<v Speaker 2>But now you can use money to really take big,

574
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.119
<v Speaker 2>big steps forward. They've already done that with the jump

575
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to the ACC or it was a no brainer for

576
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the league to not take them in if they're willing

577
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.680
<v Speaker 2>to come in with that arrangement, And there really hasn't

578
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>been that many schools that have made huge jumps, right

579
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:49.839
<v Speaker 2>like the rich kind of got richer in. Some programs

580
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.400
<v Speaker 2>are in a better spot. But as sim U's got resources,

581
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel like they could be one of them. They're

582
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>sleeping giant. I feel like when it comes to the

583
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>ability to utilize an il resources and just you know, money, Matt,

584
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 2>It's always mattered, but now you can use it to

585
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 2>go get some really good players and really climb the ladder.

586
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 2>And again they've already done it with their their move

587
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 2>of the acc and they're off to a good start

588
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:11.119
<v Speaker 2>here in their first year. When it comes to this

589
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>matchup between these two teams, you know what about Louisville

590
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:17.319
<v Speaker 2>would would you look at as a concern for SMU.

591
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Obviously the Cards favored by a touchdown. They're coming off

592
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:22.440
<v Speaker 2>a tough loss to Notre Dame. But even though f

593
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 2>Shu's down, still an impressive performance. Impressive performance from SMU

594
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.839
<v Speaker 2>the Mustangs. But what do you see about Louisville that

595
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:32.599
<v Speaker 2>you think could potentially cause some problems here for this team?

596
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.279
<v Speaker 4>You know, I think the decision making from Tyler Shugg

597
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:37.319
<v Speaker 4>has been you know what's really stood out to me.

598
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:40.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they they are rolling in.

599
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:43.119
<v Speaker 4>The passing game and they're not afraid to, you know,

600
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:46.759
<v Speaker 4>take take shots down the field, and that's something where

601
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:48.960
<v Speaker 4>SMU's secondary is still.

602
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:49.559
<v Speaker 3>Work in progress.

603
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 4>You saw djuungal A have a little bit of success.

604
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.319
<v Speaker 4>He had his best passing day of the season. I

605
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:01.039
<v Speaker 4>believe against SMU and then eventually thats defensive line that

606
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 4>has been so good the better part of the last

607
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.880
<v Speaker 4>year and a half step up and start to wear

608
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 4>on them and you know, I ultimately knocked them out

609
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:11.160
<v Speaker 4>of the game and things like that. But you know,

610
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.440
<v Speaker 4>you you've got a passing game that is is really

611
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.920
<v Speaker 4>really impressive, and I think when when SME looks at

612
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:22.200
<v Speaker 4>that on film, they're they're going to be somewhat you know,

613
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:27.079
<v Speaker 4>unsure of how it's going to go because the secondary

614
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:28.839
<v Speaker 4>has been a little bit of a question this year.

615
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.799
<v Speaker 4>And then you know, the matchup of the trenches was

616
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 4>a big thing going into the Florida State game for SMU,

617
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.519
<v Speaker 4>and they were able to you know, find their groove

618
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.720
<v Speaker 4>run into football with Brishard Smith, who's been excellent this year.

619
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:44.519
<v Speaker 4>Louisville's got a really good run defense, and that's a

620
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.039
<v Speaker 4>matchup where if SMU can't get the ball rolling on

621
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:48.200
<v Speaker 4>offense in the run.

622
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Game, it's going to be a long afternoon in all.

623
00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Likelihood, because when SMU has been able to run the

624
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<v Speaker 4>ball and do it consistently and carry, you know, dish

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<v Speaker 4>out forty plus carries, they're a really hard team to

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<v Speaker 4>beat on the rett.

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<v Speaker 3>Lastly, those are kind of the matchups to watch and

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<v Speaker 3>really how the game will be either one or lost.

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<v Speaker 3>For rescume you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill and Body is our guest joining us here on

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety. He covers SMU for on Theponyexpress

632
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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Obviously, SMU has got a pretty big fan base.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you expect many fans to make the trip here

634
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<v Speaker 2>to Louisville. I know they've probably got They probably got

635
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 2>fans that don't just live near where SMU is located.

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<v Speaker 2>They probably have fans that have, you know, moved away

637
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.799
<v Speaker 2>after college. But I since on social media that there's

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<v Speaker 2>there could be a you know, not a crowd where

639
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<v Speaker 2>you're looking at fifty to fifty or even you know,

640
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<v Speaker 2>seventy thirty. But it sounds like SMU does travel pretty well,

641
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<v Speaker 2>although it's not very close from SMU to Louisville.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's going to be a great crowd.

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<v Speaker 4>I think people are excited. This is the type of

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<v Speaker 4>destination that they they wanted when they when they went

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<v Speaker 4>into this league, and you know, they've they've got the Bourbontations.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot lined up and all of those things there

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<v Speaker 3>we go.

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<v Speaker 4>That they're excited about so, I think, I think there's

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00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:02.279
<v Speaker 4>gonna be pretty good crowd up there for that game,

650
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:04.839
<v Speaker 4>and and you know they're going to travel well. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think on the flip side, whenever, you know, Louisville

652
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:11.000
<v Speaker 4>fans figure out Dallas like Florida State Florida State fans

653
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 4>did last week, it'll be a pretty big destination for

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<v Speaker 4>them as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That had to be sweet for SMU fans, not only

656
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.799
<v Speaker 2>to to get a big time win, even though Florida

657
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.480
<v Speaker 2>State was was clearly already struggling at that point, but

658
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<v Speaker 2>man to to take down a team in that fashion

659
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.319
<v Speaker 2>that didn't like the idea of SMU joining the league,

660
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.759
<v Speaker 2>suing the league clearly looking down at everybody else, and

661
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.359
<v Speaker 2>then to beat them down pretty bad. And then did

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<v Speaker 2>I see that the band played like the sad like

663
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<v Speaker 2>a sad slow version of the Florida State fight song?

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<v Speaker 2>Did that happen? That's well done?

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<v Speaker 4>If so, that you're exactly right. I think as much

666
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<v Speaker 4>as SMU, the narrative, you know, wash they're giving up

667
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:55.440
<v Speaker 4>all this money and things like that, it's money that

668
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.160
<v Speaker 4>SMU didn't have. I mean that that that they're not

669
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.319
<v Speaker 4>even giving up, you know, they're they're coming out on

670
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:03.240
<v Speaker 4>the right side of this. You know, they go from

671
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 4>making seven million dollars a year in the American to

672
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:09.519
<v Speaker 4>fifteen million or so with the whatever revenue they get

673
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.639
<v Speaker 4>from the ACC. And so there's been this narrative around

674
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:16.800
<v Speaker 4>SMU that's probably a little just different than what it

675
00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:20.440
<v Speaker 4>truthfully is. And Florida State has pushed that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>with their lawsuit, you know, naming SMU as a school

677
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 4>that's not committed and you know wasn't winning and you know,

678
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.280
<v Speaker 4>was passed over by the Big twelve for you know,

679
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 4>reasons that are very clear now. You know, the Texas

680
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:38.159
<v Speaker 4>schools in that conference didn't want this program to be

681
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<v Speaker 4>off the mat and be on a level ground when

682
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:45.760
<v Speaker 4>it comes to recruiting and resources and all of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>So there was a lot of talk talked by Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>State over the last year or so and for SMU

685
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 4>to go out and beat them at home at night

686
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<v Speaker 4>when ACC Network came to town. I've been covering the

687
00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.400
<v Speaker 4>program for a for a decade now, and it was

688
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:05.119
<v Speaker 4>one of the sweeter wins for that entire fan base

689
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.280
<v Speaker 4>in front of a sold out crowd. It was really

690
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<v Speaker 4>special for a lot of people just knowing the history

691
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:12.199
<v Speaker 4>of the Pony Express and the death penalty and all

692
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:14.400
<v Speaker 4>the things that Estimy has done in the past leading

693
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<v Speaker 4>to this moment. A lot of people deserve a lot

694
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<v Speaker 4>of credit for the program to get back to it,

695
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:23.920
<v Speaker 4>and you couldn't have scripted a better you know, start

696
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:28.559
<v Speaker 4>back to that power conference level that they're now truthfully

697
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:29.320
<v Speaker 4>rightfully at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, FSU, this is backfired and played out as poorly

699
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.840
<v Speaker 2>as it possibly could, I think, and there's no sympathy

700
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.079
<v Speaker 2>from anyone other than maybe you know themselves. It's it's

701
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<v Speaker 2>really been I hate to say it, but it's really

702
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<v Speaker 2>been aw It's been awesome to see because I mean,

703
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<v Speaker 2>I cannot think of a scenario where this could have

704
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:49.519
<v Speaker 2>played out worse for them, since they filed a lawsuit

705
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:52.760
<v Speaker 2>and you know, became snobs and now now they're one

706
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<v Speaker 2>of the worst teams in the ACC it seems. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to get much sympathy around here, that's

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. But one more question for you, But when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to this SMU team, when it comes to personnel,

710
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:04.440
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about Kevin Jennings. You mentioned Smith at running back,

711
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>who's got over five hundred yards on the ground. I

712
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.400
<v Speaker 2>know they utilized the tight end RJ Maryland quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>What's another name that maybe Louisville fans should keep an

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<v Speaker 2>eye on, maybe somebody that might have a big impact

715
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.440
<v Speaker 2>in this game that maybe, you know, the box score

716
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:18.760
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't indicate their value.

717
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll give you two. And they're both on the

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<v Speaker 3>defensive line. For Simu.

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<v Speaker 4>One is Tank Booker, who is built like a tank

720
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:30.000
<v Speaker 4>about three hundred fifty pounds transfer from Markansaw by way

721
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.760
<v Speaker 4>of Maryland, and he's been terrific in the middle, just

722
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.920
<v Speaker 4>not showing up on the stat sheet, but impacting plays,

723
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 4>disrupting them, doing all of those things. And that's allowed

724
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<v Speaker 4>a guy like Elijah Roberts, who is a budding star

725
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.920
<v Speaker 4>in the ACC now, to be able to make those

726
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:51.719
<v Speaker 4>disruptive plays. I mean he hit dj Rie Ungole probably

727
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.800
<v Speaker 4>I think a half dozen times on Saturday against the Knowles.

728
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.360
<v Speaker 4>He's forced to fumble twice in the last two weeks.

729
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 4>He's been able to just turn into this kind of

730
00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.320
<v Speaker 4>monstar looking guy off the edge of where's the neck role.

731
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<v Speaker 4>He's just a huge human being play yeah, yeah, he

732
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:16.840
<v Speaker 4>wears it well, trust me. He is not somebody to

733
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:21.119
<v Speaker 4>mess around with and and he's a really nice guy too.

734
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<v Speaker 4>He's bounced back basically from Miami. You know he was

735
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 4>he was an afterthought last year when SMU brought him

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<v Speaker 4>in in January twenty twenty three, and he was brought

737
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 4>in alongside a big nose tackling Jordan Miller, who was

738
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:36.679
<v Speaker 4>great for resum me last year, some receivers that were

739
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:39.679
<v Speaker 4>highly touted out of high school running back, and then

740
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 4>they get Elijah Roberts who kind of had, you know,

741
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:48.119
<v Speaker 4>okay stats, nothing crazy, didn't really start that much, and

742
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:51.119
<v Speaker 4>he turned into an AAC Defensive Player of the Year

743
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.639
<v Speaker 4>type of player. And this year was all about him

744
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:57.440
<v Speaker 4>returning to the ACC. He came back to asking me

745
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.280
<v Speaker 4>for another year, and he's proving why I think he

746
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 4>could creep up into the day two picks of the

747
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:03.440
<v Speaker 4>NFL Draft.

748
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 3>He just looks the part.

749
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:10.519
<v Speaker 4>Great guy, great support system, and he's got an opportunity

750
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:13.800
<v Speaker 4>to once again make himself some money this weekend. And

751
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:16.280
<v Speaker 4>so far, so good this season at doing that.

752
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<v Speaker 2>Bill, I really appreciate you making some time for us.

753
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Good insight there and we're looking forward to a good

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00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.320
<v Speaker 2>matchup on Saturday. Thanks again anytime.

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00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:26.639
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me all right.

756
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<v Speaker 2>That's Bill Embodie, who covers SMU for on the Ponyexpress

757
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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Good stuff there, Let's get to a quick time.

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<v Speaker 2>I will come back and wrap at the five o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>hour right here on Sports Talk seven ninety very short

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<v Speaker 2>segment here before we get to the top of the

761
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<v Speaker 2>hour and finish strong with our third and final hour

762
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<v Speaker 2>at five o'clock. Did we get dumped here in Louisville

763
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:48.199
<v Speaker 2>at the Yum Center. I mean, Louisville, the YOUM Center

764
00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 2>has hosted regional rounds multiple times and it's been a

765
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:53.519
<v Speaker 2>big hit, not only you know, for us here as

766
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 2>basketball fans, but I know the NAA values Louisville as

767
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>a basketball city to where when you host the regional rounds,

768
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 2>the Sweet sixteen and the Elite eight, you usually get

769
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:06.079
<v Speaker 2>a great crowd, not only because fans will travel, but

770
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.719
<v Speaker 2>also people around here will go just because we love

771
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:11.719
<v Speaker 2>hoops more than most. But in twenty twenty seven and

772
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:13.480
<v Speaker 2>we will be hosting here at the Young Center the

773
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:17.400
<v Speaker 2>first and second round games. So I mean that's a demotion,

774
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:18.960
<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you. Maybe they're just splitting it

775
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:22.320
<v Speaker 2>up and sharing it, but that year, the regional rounds

776
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:26.280
<v Speaker 2>will be in Kansas City, New York, San Antonio, and

777
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles. So I didn't realize that the Final four

778
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 2>is going to be in Vegas in twenty twenty eight.

779
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:34.760
<v Speaker 2>So here are the next four years of the Final

780
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:38.639
<v Speaker 2>four coming up San Antonio and then next year twenty

781
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:41.519
<v Speaker 2>twenty six will be Indianapolis, and then Detroit's gonna get

782
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:43.519
<v Speaker 2>it in twenty twenty seven, So the year that Louisville

783
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:45.960
<v Speaker 2>will be hosting in the first round, you know, the

784
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.320
<v Speaker 2>final destination for people looking to win a championship will

785
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:50.400
<v Speaker 2>be in Detroit, followed by Vegas, then back to Indy.

786
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Indy always gets more than most because it's kind of

787
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, first of all, the NCAA is there, and Indy.

788
00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know many people like look at India as

789
00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:02.119
<v Speaker 2>a is it cool city to go to and have

790
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:04.599
<v Speaker 2>a weekend. I love Indie. I mean, obviously my teams

791
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:06.400
<v Speaker 2>are in Indie, my Pacers, my colts, but like that

792
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.119
<v Speaker 2>is nothing to do with it. I just think Indianapolis

793
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:09.679
<v Speaker 2>is a like if I if I was going to

794
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<v Speaker 2>live in a in a in a city that wasn't Louisville,

795
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:16.760
<v Speaker 2>it would be Indy and mostly because it's closer. I mean,

796
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.639
<v Speaker 2>it's not like I'm traveling, you know, eight hours away.

797
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.840
<v Speaker 2>But I like Indianapolis. But I feel like anytime somebody

798
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:25.480
<v Speaker 2>talks about it and and brags on it, it's it's

799
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<v Speaker 2>mostly just because they're you know, talking about how it's

800
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 2>great for those for those kind of events. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to run five o'clock hours next right here

802
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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety