Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of
Speaker 1: The Hot Mike Here on the John Roca Channel. I
Speaker 1: am John Rokan, joined as always by the Instiders. Up,
Speaker 1: Jeff Stunn, How are you? Jeff?
Speaker 2: Hello, Johnny Boy, Jeff?
Speaker 1: How are you? How are you feeling? We were two
Speaker 1: people not big enough to be invited to Peter Thiel's
Speaker 1: get together to have our conversations about world issue, so
Speaker 1: we have to do it here on this show. How
Speaker 1: are you? Howard things? How's how's life? Brother treating you?
Speaker 1: My man? I'm at what son of a bitch? Son
Speaker 1: of a bitch?
Speaker 2: I'm good baby. Just got in this morning. I took
Speaker 2: the red eye to Boston. Didn't really sleep on the plane. Wow,
Speaker 2: kind of exhausted, but yeah, I'm here. We're doing it.
Speaker 2: It is three in the afternoon on the East Coast.
Speaker 2: I've seen Big Daddy. I'm seeing my bros tonight.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: Got out a newsletter just now, my latest issue of
Speaker 2: the Studio Mandates series, which is We're gonna get into
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I'm sitting.
Speaker 1: On so much news.
Speaker 2: Wow, Oh my god, do you guys just subscribe to
Speaker 2: the fucking newsletter for do yourself as the favor What why.
Speaker 1: Are you doing on the East coast? What? What's what's
Speaker 1: the schedule? What? What is the deal? What brought you
Speaker 1: to this coast this summer?
Speaker 2: On? No, it's Father's Day. You know, my mom passed,
Speaker 2: so you got to cherish my father. So I'm you know,
Speaker 2: doing Father's Day through fourth of July here. It's like
Speaker 2: a good you know, two and a half three week trip.
Speaker 1: Nice And does your father think you're gonna get Yannis?
Speaker 1: As as your father feeling hopeful that the Celtics are
Speaker 1: gonna land you on us? What's the deal there?
Speaker 2: I actually I don't know that anyone in Boston really
Speaker 2: wants to get rid of Jalen Brown in favor of Janna, Like,
Speaker 2: we'll take you, honest, we can get him for like
Speaker 2: d White if we have to part with Prichard Hugo,
Speaker 2: you know, draft picks. But like I think we're kind
Speaker 2: of content to run it back and give it another shows.
Speaker 1: If the Bees can do it again, we'll see. But
Speaker 1: we're here to talk about entertainment. We got so much
Speaker 1: to get into here. Thank you everybody who's joining us
Speaker 1: with this change time for today because Jeff being on
Speaker 1: the East coast, as he said, but we're gonna dump
Speaker 1: it dive into so much going on here with Marvel
Speaker 1: and Spider Man, as Jeff teazed, the studio stuff that
Speaker 1: he's talking about, some X Men stuff, some film and
Speaker 1: television stuff as well, and some reviews if we can
Speaker 1: get to them by the end of the show. We'd
Speaker 1: love for yall to keep to send it to send
Speaker 1: hit your stream labs and superchets as we go along.
Speaker 1: It's pinned the chest and the scripture of the video. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it's there. Well, we got to put it on
Speaker 1: the screw at some point. We'll put it on the
Speaker 1: screen at some point for sure. But let's get into
Speaker 1: the first story, Jeff. This just broke as we're about
Speaker 1: to start the show. Apparently The Grinch Who Stole Christmas?
Speaker 1: How the Grinch Stole Christmas is getting a sequel, Universal
Speaker 1: and Imagine Entertainer developing one, with three clay Key players
Speaker 1: expected to recurn. Jim carrey In talks to a Prizes
Speaker 1: role as the Grinch, Ron Howard returning to direct, and
Speaker 1: Brian Grazer, Imagined Entertainment partner coming back to be a
Speaker 1: part of this. The sequel will have a script by
Speaker 1: Alec Berg, Jeff Schaeffer, and David Mandell. The trio also
Speaker 1: worked on the adaptation of The Cat and the Hat
Speaker 1: starring Mike Myers, which did not go well. So your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this, do you like the idea of doing
Speaker 1: a sequel and does this feel good that Jim Carrey
Speaker 1: is coming back to a character that a lot of
Speaker 1: people still love him?
Speaker 2: For your thoughtsome, I mean, yeah, this is something that
Speaker 2: Jamie if you if you go to my Twitter, you'll
Speaker 2: see the Screenshat. Jamie and I discussing this last fall
Speaker 2: something I forget what it was, but this was an inevitability, right,
Speaker 2: This was like the biggest movie of the year that
Speaker 2: it came out. There's no reason not to do another
Speaker 2: one with like all the properties that we're revisiting these days.
Speaker 2: He isn't too good for it or whatever, and like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's older, maybe looks a little bit different, but under
Speaker 2: the makeup, you're not gonna be able to tell. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's gonna look pretty much the exact same as he's
Speaker 2: twenty years ago. That's the magic of makeup. And I
Speaker 2: still think he's got like the energy and all that
Speaker 2: for it. So I do think this is actually a
Speaker 2: really you know, smart financial gamble from Universal. I think
Speaker 2: it's a good bet. I think it's good for Jim Carriing,
Speaker 2: it's good for Ron Howard. I've heard, you know, I
Speaker 2: have heard good things about Ron Howard's new movie. So
Speaker 2: like part of me wasn't like going from a good
Speaker 2: movie to look back to like the fucking Grinch. But
Speaker 2: you know, I get it. It's a huge hit. Never
Speaker 2: hurts to add where those your resume?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he hasn't been, like you know, he has
Speaker 1: been knocking that out of the park recently, Jeff. You
Speaker 1: know that Eden film came and went and sank like
Speaker 1: a stone, and so he needs probably needs a hit.
Speaker 1: And I'll say this two things. One, it feels like
Speaker 1: we're Hollywood is moving back to family films. It feels
Speaker 1: like they're wanting to embrace this a little bit more
Speaker 1: for quadrant films, have fun with those. And also, I
Speaker 1: think we have to give a little bit of credit
Speaker 1: to Sonic the Hedgehog franchise because it kind of revitalized
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey. Yes, for the older ones, we've always loved
Speaker 1: carry right, but seeing Jim get back in touch with
Speaker 1: the comedy get back in touch with things that we love,
Speaker 1: and a whole new generation come and discover him. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe who probably grew up as children watching How the
Speaker 1: Greenstone Christmas. Now seeing him come back to this, I
Speaker 1: think is great, you.
Speaker 2: Know, hundred percent correct. I mean again, children only have
Speaker 2: so many like movie stars. Yeah, new Carrey's managed to
Speaker 2: be one for decades. It's kind of like Jack Why
Speaker 2: you know, Jack Black is like, if you're making a
Speaker 2: family movie, that's the first person you call, like kids, Yeah,
Speaker 2: back Black still Yeah, so uh yeah, it's good to
Speaker 2: see Jim get back out there. You're right, Sonic does
Speaker 2: deserve credit because where would he be right now without
Speaker 2: that franchise? Yeah, out of sight, out of mind. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that did keep him in the conversation. And uh,
Speaker 2: I think again, this is this is a solid holiday movie.
Speaker 1: It wasn't.
Speaker 2: I don't care about it personally because I didn't really
Speaker 2: like grow up. But I think I was like sixteen
Speaker 2: by the time The Grinch came out. I don't even
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I've seen the whole Grinch movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, uh, let's we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Of course, is so way early in the process, and
Speaker 1: we'll see what the end result of it.
Speaker 2: As Jamie correctly points out, and this is also another inevitability,
Speaker 2: there will be a school of rock follow up. ERSK
Speaker 2: like why would there be?
Speaker 1: Right right? Yeah, I mean that means like making Rome
Speaker 1: and Michelle too right now they are that's actually shooting
Speaker 1: right now. And I'm kind of using that as a
Speaker 1: segue as well, Jeff to ask you about this. I mean,
Speaker 1: Austin Powers four is apparently happening. Mike Myers was on
Speaker 1: Trevor Noah's World Cup podcast. Uh, and when he was
Speaker 1: asked about whether there is going to be an Austin
Speaker 1: Power new Austin Powers movie, he said unequivocally yes. It
Speaker 1: was resounding. And now this has been picked up, of course. Uh.
Speaker 1: He had previously stated that he was very surprised if
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. So do you since that this is
Speaker 1: just him making an offhand comment or was this an
Speaker 1: actual indication that it is happening. He's getting the gang
Speaker 1: back together. Maybe Jay Roach coming off the couch to
Speaker 1: direct this your thoughts. I think it's definitely gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I don't know that Jay Roach would necessarily necessarily wind
Speaker 2: up directing. They may need some you know whoever the
Speaker 2: hot young comedy director is. Yeah, Mike de Lucas in
Speaker 2: charge of Warner Brothers. He's the guy you know who
Speaker 2: is running New Line, you know when the series sort
Speaker 2: of started. Yeah, it make total sense that he'd go
Speaker 2: back to that. Well, I mean Mike Myers was just
Speaker 2: in Michael, wasn't he. Yeah, Yeah, he was just like
Speaker 2: on a movie like yep, you know, like, uh, I
Speaker 2: think that people like Austin Powers and now it's it's
Speaker 2: actually maybe it's a couple of years too late for this,
Speaker 2: but like it now is the right time to revisit that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the ends of twenty twenty six and like completely make
Speaker 2: fun of it, right, I do think it's it's ripe
Speaker 2: for comedy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it seems like Doctor EEV, although he's
Speaker 1: always been kind of a beloved character for people love
Speaker 1: the franchise, maybe this is one that tells the story
Speaker 1: where Doctor Evil had way more logic for what the
Speaker 1: things he was doing. We seem to be more open
Speaker 1: to hearing the other side of the evil side of things,
Speaker 1: and I'd be curious to see what his what Myers's
Speaker 1: approach is going to be on this one and what
Speaker 1: he's going to do with it, and also the outdated
Speaker 1: Austin powers, how does he deal with like me too?
Speaker 1: And how does he deal with all these black lives,
Speaker 1: but all these other things he might come in contact
Speaker 1: with as the sexual dynamics have changed, women not wanting
Speaker 1: to have children, or women being more in control all
Speaker 1: of the sexual partners they have and not having any
Speaker 1: shame about it. Like what will Austin be like with
Speaker 1: that that in that world where things that kind of
Speaker 1: switched around? You know, it could be curious to see
Speaker 1: for sure, And certainly Mike Myers could use a comedy
Speaker 1: hit because it's been a while since he had one.
Speaker 2: And that's the other part of this is that I
Speaker 2: do think that him being so confident in Austin powers
Speaker 2: for being made indicates a shift that I'm sensing in
Speaker 2: studios and we're I think, being and you're going to
Speaker 2: see it in the mandates, the different studio mandates.
Speaker 1: Like people are hungry for comedies.
Speaker 2: Studios want comedies, They want ra raided comedies, right, and
Speaker 2: they want rotblem coms. So I think you're going to
Speaker 2: see a lot more of those over the next couple
Speaker 2: of years.
Speaker 1: Someone went way more intelligent than me. Should go back
Speaker 1: through the last few years and like, connect the lack
Speaker 1: of comedies in theater with the increase of division within
Speaker 1: our society. I wonder if there's a correlation here, Jeff,
Speaker 1: where like because it seems like people now we've hit
Speaker 1: the nature of anger and divisiveness. Comedies now a place
Speaker 1: where we can all go put down our swords in
Speaker 1: our shields and laugh in a theater and have a
Speaker 1: communal experience. I think that could be interesting to explore that.
Speaker 1: And it's no coincidence. I think this happening just as
Speaker 1: the superhero genre is kind of losing its luster, losing
Speaker 1: its attraction, that another genre is coming back in that
Speaker 1: had been very powerful in years past. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: another film that is from the time. But if this
Speaker 1: is going to be a TV's here's Jeff, I've heard this.
Speaker 1: James Wand is apparently full on this thing for RoboCop
Speaker 1: is going to direct a few of these episodes from
Speaker 1: the series. So are you excited about this? This makes sense
Speaker 1: to you that he's going to take much more over
Speaker 1: a hands on approaches RoboCop thing. Does Does this excite you?
Speaker 1: Or does this feel a little bit like, why is
Speaker 1: James want doing this at this point? What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this.
Speaker 2: Jeff, Yeah, I mean I don't really have a lot
Speaker 2: of thoughts.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not a big RoboCop guy.
Speaker 2: James One has his hands in a lot of pies.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine he'd be too involved beyond the pilot. Right,
Speaker 2: You did direct the pilot and then I get my
Speaker 2: name as an EP on the show for the rest
Speaker 2: of it's rotten?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh, who's this friend? Well, Jeremy is Jeremy. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jordan Roomy over there at World of Reel is reporting this,
Speaker 1: and he is set to executive puts the RoboCop series
Speaker 1: for Amazon MGM, but will also direct a few key episodes.
Speaker 1: A six month shoot starts next January. Vancouver has planned
Speaker 1: for the series, and he can also report that the
Speaker 1: series will debut a new cybernetic lawman named Mark Kyle.
Speaker 1: So these are the things that Jordan is reporting in
Speaker 1: World of Reel. Your thoughts on all of that.
Speaker 2: I haven't read that article. I don't know what you're
Speaker 2: talking about. I see, okay, I see. I think it
Speaker 2: speaks to the fact that James's movie not ready to go.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, which is the Gangster, the Cop, the Devil?
Speaker 2: I heard I heard that somebody passed on that movie.
Speaker 2: Someone who's passed on two big movies now, oh wow.
Speaker 1: And doing terrible movies. So you're just like, what are
Speaker 1: these choices? Keanu? Sorry, it's weird. Peter Auco has been
Speaker 1: tapped as a writer, executives showrunner. He has done stuff
Speaker 1: is like Parker Lewis, Can't Lose, Dead Like Me and
Speaker 1: Pushing Daisies, and he recently served as a showrunner for
Speaker 1: Lodge forty nine and moon Haven. Stuff I haven't seen,
Speaker 1: although I did see Parker Lewis and Dead Like Me
Speaker 1: and Pushing daisy So, but I don't know if I
Speaker 1: would take that guy. But I'm a RoboCop. So is
Speaker 1: this gonna have much more of a comedic bent or
Speaker 1: a fantastical bent? I wonder, you know, putting him together
Speaker 1: with James wand be curious to see. Okay, let's see
Speaker 1: what else we want to jump into. Oh, what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on this? Yef? We've been talking about this
Speaker 1: Ocean's situation is prequel for quite some time, but apparently
Speaker 1: Wagner Mora is in talks to be the villain in
Speaker 1: This Ocean's prequel film. Of course, you've got Margot, Robbie
Speaker 1: and Bradley Cooper along for the Rye. Bradley's going to
Speaker 1: be directing it now, with Linus Sangrin as the cinematographer.
Speaker 1: So do you like this as an next step for
Speaker 1: Vagnor Moora's career to be the villain in this film?
Speaker 2: Again, this is another inevitability. As I wrote letter the
Speaker 2: day before this was announced, which I guess's been out
Speaker 2: there for a few weeks. Daniel Rpka, I think put
Speaker 2: it out there in late May, okay, which is why
Speaker 2: it's sounded familiar. He had villain written on his forehead,
Speaker 2: Wagner Morah. He's been heavily rumored for both the X
Speaker 2: Men villain. Yes, he could be Subastian Shaw. I have
Speaker 2: no idea. I don't know where that's coming from. That's
Speaker 2: other people saying this right, right, right, And but I've
Speaker 2: heard him for on the list for the Bond villain
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: That makes sense.
Speaker 2: So the question was do you wait and hold off
Speaker 2: and not take projects when everybody's coming at you and
Speaker 2: throwing all this money at you in the wake of
Speaker 2: your Best Actor nomination and getting one of those jobs
Speaker 2: X Men or Bond, which may not come until like early.
Speaker 1: Next year, who knows, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Or do you take a gig now and then say, hey, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play the villain here, but if you really
Speaker 2: like me, you'll still have me as the villain, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. He took a big payday from
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers to be the villain in this Oceans movie.
Speaker 2: I like it. It's still Bradley Cooper, you know, directing.
Speaker 2: He's a really fucking good director. DeMarco Lobby, She's a
Speaker 2: huge star. You know. I don't know that I have
Speaker 2: like the best feeling about it of an Ocean's prequel,
Speaker 2: but I do like those elements. Yeah, so yeah, I
Speaker 2: think this is definitely good for the movie in landing him,
Speaker 2: and good for him in the sense that it.
Speaker 1: Will show every buddy what he can do.
Speaker 2: And hopefully, I mean, if they're shooting this in August,
Speaker 2: I think the word gets out about how good his
Speaker 2: performance is or isn't, and maybe it helps him land
Speaker 2: Bond or X Men.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point. Yeah, seeing what he's like
Speaker 1: because this is set in nineteen sixty two, at the
Speaker 1: Monaco Grand Prix. It's described as a stylish old school
Speaker 1: caper inspired by Hitchcock's To Catch a Thief, So that
Speaker 1: already implies this is going to be very smooth and
Speaker 1: cool movie. So what is Vagner Moor coming into a
Speaker 1: project like this and conveying that and showing that I
Speaker 1: think would be interesting? My mind goes to what's his
Speaker 1: face from the second Ocean's film, Oceans twelve, the Cassel
Speaker 1: Right who came in to play the villain. That wasn't
Speaker 1: such a good movie. But I wonder Wagner will have
Speaker 1: a little more luck with this one than maybe Cassell
Speaker 1: had playing the villain in that second film in that series.
Speaker 1: So I'll be curious to see. But I like this
Speaker 1: for him. As you said, get the money, get a
Speaker 1: little another film under your belt, and then start elevating
Speaker 1: your quote onto the next thing. It just makes sense
Speaker 1: on some many levels.
Speaker 2: You know, John, I'm trying to send our stream yard
Speaker 2: link to a special guest right now, I think is
Speaker 2: going to come in for an upcoming item.
Speaker 1: What's say? I don't know.
Speaker 2: You may need a few minutes, but I'm gonna send
Speaker 2: it to Drew Taylor and have him. Wow, the ray
Speaker 2: Gun stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'd love that I have that on the list.
Speaker 2: So we'll wait for him to come in to talk
Speaker 2: about what's the next item on the list.
Speaker 1: I love that idea. I love that. Let's get to this.
Speaker 1: What do you think about this? Anya Taylor Joy has
Speaker 1: joined the cast for The Hunt for Gollum. This has
Speaker 1: been This has been kind of rumored for quite some time.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, her looks kind of lean themselves
Speaker 1: to an elfish kind of look, so it makes all
Speaker 1: the sense in the world, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: But it has now been confirmed that she's joining the cast.
Speaker 1: She's set to portray Saren or Serene, a character I
Speaker 1: haven't heard of, a character I've never heard of before
Speaker 1: prehav Maybe it was created for the film. Variety is
Speaker 1: saying that it is an elf, so no surprise there.
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on this? That she's joining
Speaker 1: yet another franchise. On the heels of Furiosa, on the
Speaker 1: heel of Dune three, on the heels of Super Mario Galaxy.
Speaker 1: What does this tell you, man?
Speaker 2: I mean, it tells me she likes to work. It
Speaker 2: tells me she can't say no to good director. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not gonna like look down on her
Speaker 2: for doing a lot of ip. Yeah, it's it's Lord
Speaker 2: of the Rings, Like, how the fuck do you say?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: You know, I thought she was going to be a
Speaker 2: love interest for Gollum or something. What okay, Jesus else,
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with the books. I don't know what
Speaker 2: the role is. I just know it seems like she
Speaker 2: she'll fit right into this universe. She had a kind
Speaker 2: of has like a Galadrial look to her in.
Speaker 1: A way, totally right, and elfish kind of looked to
Speaker 1: her for sure.
Speaker 2: And yet her her Apple show is really good.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I haven't seen that win yet. Uh did
Speaker 1: you finish Widows Bay? I finished? Oh, Jeff, come on
Speaker 1: as a horror guy, I've got to hear your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this. Everyone.
Speaker 2: Every everybody's watching Widows Bay except me.
Speaker 1: It feels like Yeah.
Speaker 2: So she did an interview with Setha Bramovich h Ehr
Speaker 2: was a really good interview, and in it she'd neither
Speaker 2: confirmed nor deny the Joni Mitchell rumors that I put
Speaker 2: out there. Interesting, Yes, you know, if you're not denying
Speaker 2: like obviously it's yes, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agreed. She also tiptoed around working with George Miller
Speaker 1: on Furiosa, so that was an interesting same thing to
Speaker 1: have that brought up again. So on the heels of
Speaker 1: George Miller wanting to do one more Mad maxim and
Speaker 1: one more series of Mad Max before selling this thing off,
Speaker 1: I wonder if there is a selling point in the
Speaker 1: end for this to even happen. I wonder even the point.
Speaker 2: Why would a studio make a movie and then George
Speaker 2: Miller sells the rights right right, so you can potentially
Speaker 2: sell it somewhere else, like when you just buy the
Speaker 2: rights to the franchise and then sort of then you
Speaker 2: can do whatever you want with it, and you just
Speaker 2: Leah Miller make one more movie.
Speaker 1: Also, the parents studio wonderful this didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1: So if the if the parent doesn't, that to me
Speaker 1: seems really odd on so many levels. I don't know
Speaker 1: how man students are gonna want to swoop in, considering
Speaker 1: how the last one, you know, lost money, how many
Speaker 1: gonna want to swoop in to do this situation. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be curious to see, all right, So we have
Speaker 1: our special guest, So let's get into the story. Shall
Speaker 1: we Let's do it here. So this is happening brad
Speaker 1: Bird's ray Gun, according to the ports from the raps
Speaker 1: Drew Taylor, who may or may not come on in
Speaker 1: just a few seconds here, UH, the team behind ray Gun,
Speaker 1: Bradbird's original anime Netflix film, and their attempts to nab
Speaker 1: the then vacant Imax theatrical slot originally meant for Greta
Speaker 1: Gerwig's Narnia film on Thanksgivings has not come to fruition.
Speaker 1: Apparently Netflix pushed the UH the events of Cliffs Booth
Speaker 1: into that slot and not brad Bird's ray Gun, and
Speaker 1: it is said to possibly be because of the battles
Speaker 1: going on here between Paramount and UH and Netflix over
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, and that sadly Bradbird's ray Gun got caught
Speaker 1: in the mix and UH Fincher didn't even want to
Speaker 1: get a theatrical release, according to report from Drew Taylor.
Speaker 1: So let's bring him on to the show here, Drew,
Speaker 1: what's up? Welcome back?
Speaker 3: So happy to be here. It's really it's really good
Speaker 3: to see both of you, and you know, you both
Speaker 3: look great. I love Jeff Jeff sweater.
Speaker 2: Yeah longer yesterday when I was talking shit about ray
Speaker 2: Gun not defending Cliff Booth getting the IMAX, and so
Speaker 2: I wanted to give him the opportunity to weigh in
Speaker 2: and tell us why ray Gun deserved this slot.
Speaker 3: Well, Raygan, you know, hypothetically, Raygun is a really uh
Speaker 3: it's a more mature film. It's a mystery, it's a
Speaker 3: real film noir. It's something you want to sort of
Speaker 3: see on a big screen. I think that it's going
Speaker 3: to to maybe be at a disservice if you can
Speaker 3: pick up your phone or your Nintendo switch or go
Speaker 3: make yourself a you know, roasty sandwich. I think that
Speaker 3: that those are all things that are that could do
Speaker 3: a disservice to Regan.
Speaker 2: But it's you know, Tom and Jeff theatrical release though,
Speaker 2: like Netflix, Gibbs Movies, theatrical releases towards the end of
Speaker 2: the year. It's just not IMAX. It will have a
Speaker 2: theatrical release.
Speaker 3: It will have a awards qualifying release, and I think
Speaker 3: they are campaigning for Best Pictures, so it will be
Speaker 3: in ten markets or whatever. Yeah, so it'll be slightly larger,
Speaker 3: but it'll still be that cursory kind of like you know,
Speaker 3: ten day thing.
Speaker 2: People were able to track down some of these big
Speaker 2: Netflix movies in theaters. You don't just have to go
Speaker 2: out to like the Malibu theater to catch them, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I wonder if if it will play longer
Speaker 3: like we saw. I feel like Frankenstein and you guys
Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong, played longer in theaters than
Speaker 3: it was even meant to, right, Okay, So there is
Speaker 3: that possibility. But I think the difference is that the
Speaker 3: Raygun team really lobbied for this, yes, this slot, and
Speaker 3: and Fincher was kind of like, yeah, whatever, and they
Speaker 3: gave it to Fincher. So I think that's kind.
Speaker 1: Of the interesting thing.
Speaker 2: I totally believe that, right, tired John, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I want to talk about, because,
Speaker 1: like I to me, that's what's interesting about this thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not surprised that Netflix took the safer route.
Speaker 1: Cliff Booth is a known quantity You've gone to go
Speaker 1: with Fincher's and known quantity of Tarantino written the script
Speaker 1: Brad Paid, who won the Oscar playing the role. It
Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world, right, But you
Speaker 1: have to ask yourself, well, was this about like, as
Speaker 1: Drewman's mentioning in the article, was this about some political
Speaker 1: studio machinations in this whole situation? Did it get grinded up?
Speaker 1: And I mean so many directors have done stuff in Netflix,
Speaker 1: have like lobby publicly to get Netflix. I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: Grene gerwork to release their stuff in theaters. Here's Fincher, like,
Speaker 1: you know, having a my tie on his balcony getting
Speaker 1: offered this going yeah, sure, why not? I don't care,
Speaker 1: you know, Like so it's a really odd situation the
Speaker 1: way this all played out. So what do you think
Speaker 1: happened he Drew? What I'm asking Drew not you? What
Speaker 1: do you think happened Drew in this situation?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean from the IMAX side of things, they
Speaker 3: were very They thought that the cliff Booth thing was
Speaker 3: very appealing because it kind of targeted that sinners one
Speaker 3: battle after another, you know, kind of Dune three milieu.
Speaker 3: You know that they they make an event out of it.
Speaker 3: They were really interested in the exclusivity, which would have
Speaker 3: been the same with Reagan. It would have been the
Speaker 3: exclusive kind of like home for ragn for two weeks.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I think that it does speak
Speaker 3: to a larger problem with Netflix and animation and getting
Speaker 3: behind animation even after Kpop Demon Hunters broke every record.
Speaker 3: We just saw today that it's the first animated feature
Speaker 3: to be on the top ten for an entire year,
Speaker 3: which is insane. So that's really where my kind of
Speaker 3: questioning comes from. And then yeah, the like kind of
Speaker 3: the hot potato that the movie became between these two
Speaker 3: studios that are fighting publicly, and also you know, like
Speaker 3: the in legal terms over the Warner Brothers thing, Like,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think Skydance would have been inclined
Speaker 3: to put it out, and neither wo Netflix to support
Speaker 3: a sky Dance movie. And the other thing that I
Speaker 3: think is kind of getting overlooked is that when he
Speaker 3: signed on for this, it was an Apple movie, and
Speaker 3: Apple has a much better yeah, Bradbird, and Apple has
Speaker 3: a much better track record in terms of getting stuff
Speaker 3: into theaters. So there's no indication that he didn't think, oh,
Speaker 3: with Apple will have a release like F one or
Speaker 3: Napoleon or whatever. So yeah, it's just a really kind
Speaker 3: of screwed up, complicated situation. But let's hear it. Let's
Speaker 3: hear Snider.
Speaker 2: Night Ance thing is interesting. Because that's politics getting in
Speaker 2: the way of what may be best for the movie. Right,
Speaker 2: You're an animation guy, so I understand that you're gonna
Speaker 2: approach it from the tact of well. Netflix doesn't get
Speaker 2: behind animated movies the way that they could or should.
Speaker 2: But to me, it's just like a no brainer. Like
Speaker 2: if you're a parent, Like you're not trying to spend
Speaker 2: twenty five twenty six dollars a ticket. You're just trying
Speaker 2: to kill a few hours, So you want the eighteen
Speaker 2: dollars ticket and a stud and the Fincher. The Fincher fit, okay,
Speaker 2: are the ones who are the format nerds and like, Plus,
Speaker 2: whether Fincher wants it or not, this is also your
Speaker 2: first project really with Tarantino, and you know Tarantino wants
Speaker 2: it on the big screen, right, so you know, Like,
Speaker 2: to me, there are other factors who work. If Fincher
Speaker 2: wasn't their single biggest, most important filmmaker to them and
Speaker 2: it was just Giemel or somebody, then I think you'd
Speaker 2: have more of a case. But this is like their
Speaker 2: guy since day one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do wonder how much how like what
Speaker 3: the viewership of mank is versus you know something, This.
Speaker 1: Is what I want to get to because I think
Speaker 1: your I think your logic, Jeff, as a non parent,
Speaker 1: is very curious to see because I would say their
Speaker 1: parents nowadays are just as much. They're young people who
Speaker 1: are into the fucking format nerd shit and want to
Speaker 1: share it to their with their kids and want to
Speaker 1: get them into it. There are so many parents who
Speaker 1: share four case, share screen. Everything is much more accessible
Speaker 1: than it was in your day or even way back
Speaker 1: in my day. And I think parents nowadays are introducing
Speaker 1: their kids to all these formats and all these things,
Speaker 1: and they're getting an appreciation for Why do you think
Speaker 1: Generation Alpha is going to theaters in larger numbers than
Speaker 1: older generations is because they want to enjoy these formats
Speaker 1: and they're having kids that want to bring their kids
Speaker 1: along to it. So I think there's more of a
Speaker 1: case to end. It's like Brad Bird is some random
Speaker 1: animated He's done live action and he's done animation feature films,
Speaker 1: so and he's had success. So to me, this is
Speaker 1: a different situation and I think a lot of parents
Speaker 1: would have brought their kids to this. Toy Story five
Speaker 1: is about to make almost two hundred million dollars this weekend.
Speaker 2: This is like the one again, one of the craziest
Speaker 2: things you ever said, John Parent spend seven dollars more
Speaker 2: a ticket so they can hand down their Absolutely would
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, if I had a kid, I
Speaker 2: would absolutely hand it down.
Speaker 1: I would hand it down.
Speaker 2: Look behind me, I got two pieces, and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be taking into the movies. And I guarantee you no
Speaker 2: one's gonna say, will be got to see it in imax.
Speaker 2: They're gonna say, what's the what's the closest theater, what's
Speaker 2: the best show time? We don't give a fuck what
Speaker 2: the format is.
Speaker 1: And you know why, you know, why could you haven't
Speaker 1: introduced them to the format. If you introduced them to
Speaker 1: the format, said we're going to Imax, I'm paying extra.
Speaker 1: I want you guys to appreciate the format, then their
Speaker 1: minds will change. Are you kidding? Come on now, come on?
Speaker 3: Well, And also I think there is something to be
Speaker 3: said for Brad Bird's use of IMAX. I mean the
Speaker 3: Mission Impossible release. You know, he had that whole road
Speaker 3: show rollout which Ghost Protocol was in Imax exclusively for
Speaker 3: a week before it hit normal theaters. I mean I
Speaker 3: think you could have. I think that you could have
Speaker 3: eventized this in the same way that you do the
Speaker 3: Cliff Booth movie, because I mean, how many people saw
Speaker 3: Iron Giant at home and went, oh man, I could
Speaker 3: I wish I had seen it on the big screen.
Speaker 3: You know, there's like there's that kind of like uh
Speaker 3: not fomo, but you want to try to kind of
Speaker 3: make it this whole thing. And I would argue that
Speaker 3: Brad Bird as a filmmaker, you know, just as sort
Speaker 3: of rabid fans as David Fincher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that Cliff Booth is a
Speaker 2: sure thing. And with Imax, yeah, of course you can't
Speaker 2: take a gamble, and Ray Gunn is a gamble.
Speaker 3: Okay. I mean, let's talk about this because when I
Speaker 3: told Jeff, like, it's not a kids movie, so at
Speaker 3: one point it was PG thirteen. That is sort of
Speaker 3: in the conversation right now because if you if you
Speaker 3: exceed at PG, it doesn't go on the kids and
Speaker 3: family tile on the home screen. So that's like the
Speaker 3: kind of consternation right now. But I do wonder if
Speaker 3: if that could have been a selling point too, like
Speaker 3: come see Bradbird's like original vision for this thing in theaters.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, just like the cliff Booth, like
Speaker 2: Scarlett Johansen, the bread Pitt, like these are both huge stars.
Speaker 2: I get that argument right.
Speaker 1: And set Rockwell is an Oscar winning actor. He is
Speaker 1: leading the voicecout Listen. I agree with you, Jeff, and
Speaker 1: that they made the smarter choice in terms of looking
Speaker 1: at what we think is more of the sure thing.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's as obvious of a case
Speaker 1: as I think you're presenting it to be. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people would have gone to see this thing,
Speaker 1: and I'm ex and some people going like, well, only
Speaker 1: tech nerd parents.
Speaker 2: I would have gone to see it when you're giving
Speaker 2: me a choice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if it's a more mature material, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's more mature material, people would have gone see Listen.
Speaker 1: Drew brings us up so well with K Pop Demon
Speaker 1: Hunters today at Regal Cinema this morning, the nine to
Speaker 1: forty five am showing of K Pop Demon Hunters at
Speaker 1: my local Regal was sold out and they're showing it
Speaker 1: all day today.
Speaker 2: So now that's a that's a phenomenon. Just because Raygun
Speaker 2: is a Netflix animated movie doesn't make it K Pop
Speaker 2: Demon Hunters.
Speaker 3: No, But but I don't know. What's interesting is that,
Speaker 3: you know, Netflix would argue and has argued that the
Speaker 3: exclusivity of these animated titles is what makes them such hits.
Speaker 3: Look at the Top ten and it's Goat and it's
Speaker 3: B Movie and it's all these things that already played
Speaker 3: in theaters. So yeah, to me, that does.
Speaker 2: Not hold water at all.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, if they want I don't know,
Speaker 3: I mean, Jeff much in the same way that they're like,
Speaker 3: we are the Home of David Fincher, this could have
Speaker 3: really been like a cool, big thing and it didn't
Speaker 3: have to be IMAX. But I think that from the
Speaker 3: the regun camp's kind of point of view, it just
Speaker 3: made perfect sense and aligned, you know, very nicely in
Speaker 3: terms of the release and all of that. And I
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I guess
Speaker 3: the the R rating of Cliff Booth is not going
Speaker 3: to hurt anything, as we saw with Sinners and One Battle,
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a it's a it's a sticky situation
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: Also also because it's very similar to and I'm not
Speaker 1: Jeff might explode at this, but it is kind of
Speaker 1: similar to the Social Reckoning, Right, you're not getting Fincher
Speaker 1: coming back to do the sequel, You're getting Aaron Sorkin
Speaker 1: to do the sequel. And in this yes, Fature's in
Speaker 1: a cop film, an incredible filmmaker, but it's Tarantino script.
Speaker 1: Is he going to make this energy of a Tarantino movie?
Speaker 1: Or is this going to be something completely different in
Speaker 1: its approach that people might be turned off by? But
Speaker 1: you know, well, I don't know. We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1: On so many loves I.
Speaker 2: Would have I would much rather have seen ray Gun
Speaker 2: in Imax than Narnia.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 3: Just probably you'll see ray Gun in the theater, Jeff,
Speaker 3: that will you will be committed to that?
Speaker 1: If? Yes, I promise you you got? Is there anything
Speaker 1: you can tease that you're working on you or anything
Speaker 1: else you want to talk about, because I think people
Speaker 1: should read this. It's in the wrap, Go I went,
Speaker 1: I got?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I'm always working on something.
Speaker 3: But yeah, there'll be more ray Gun stories for sure
Speaker 3: as we see how this rating situation shakes.
Speaker 1: Out and everything else.
Speaker 3: Yes, some interesting could have been would have been kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. But it's just good that it's finally coming
Speaker 3: out after seven years and that hopefully people will see it.
Speaker 3: We'll see what it does on Netflix. It could be
Speaker 3: a complete bust on Netflix, but it really will be
Speaker 3: a cinematic you know, experience for those.
Speaker 1: That, yeah, do it.
Speaker 3: But thanks for learning me on guys.
Speaker 1: Blackbird could use one, Brad Bird could use one. It's
Speaker 1: been a bit since he had a big hits.
Speaker 3: Well I mean yeah, I mean, but this last movie
Speaker 3: was Incredibles Too, which made one point five billion or something,
Speaker 3: which is the other thing, like, you're not going to
Speaker 3: give this guy theatrical.
Speaker 1: I don't know that's a fair post. But yes, thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm going to watch the rest of the show. I
Speaker 3: can't wait to hear about X Men being Marvel's big
Speaker 3: I didn't miss that one yet, did I?
Speaker 1: No, not yet, not yet? Okay, okay, all.
Speaker 2: Right, all right, thanks for reading you guys.
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1: There there was Drew Tail hanging out with us. Jeff,
Speaker 1: thanks for getting them in the talk to us. I connected.
Speaker 1: Let's connect more people. I'd like that. Uh listen, walk
Speaker 1: to the Charles Melton section of the show. This is
Speaker 1: apparently he is joining the Daniels film next film here
Speaker 1: alongside Matt David and the newly announced Sandra Oh. Matt
Speaker 1: David and Sandra rumor to be playing parents and all
Speaker 1: of this, But Charles Melton is not joining this. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this, Jeff? Do you like, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is the next step for the guy coming out
Speaker 1: of Beef season two and of course Warfare last year?
Speaker 1: Does this make sense? Do you like it?
Speaker 2: Every listen, everybody wants to be in the Charles mouth
Speaker 2: and business right now.
Speaker 1: I guess so, Yeah, there's X Men rumors flying. I
Speaker 1: was gonna bring that up next, So don't don't. Don't.
Speaker 2: Just record in the newsletter that he was at one
Speaker 2: point in talks for the lead in Tomorrow, Tomorrow and Tomorrow.
Speaker 2: You know that book with that they're doing with Daisy
Speaker 2: Edgard Jones.
Speaker 1: Yes, I do know that book.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that'll pan out, but obviously this
Speaker 2: is a huge pull for him the Daniels. I don't
Speaker 2: know how big the role is. I don't Again, I
Speaker 2: don't really know what the context is. I imagine he'll be
Speaker 2: one of the kids, right who's then maybe grown up? Yeah, maybe,
Speaker 2: maybe the anchor of like the present day? Do I
Speaker 2: think it's in two different time periods?
Speaker 1: He's thirty five years old, bro, I think he's probably
Speaker 1: playing one of the parents, don't you think?
Speaker 2: No? Okay, parents of you know, how old is the
Speaker 2: kid then six?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I thineople have kids
Speaker 1: eighteen years old, Bro, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think he's playing it'll be about like twelve or thirteen,
Speaker 2: fourteen year olds, and then it'll jump for twenty years
Speaker 2: and gotcha like that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, in a different time period maybe than Matt Damon.
Speaker 2: This is an interesting past.
Speaker 1: They're putting together, though, don't you think?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: I mean again, I thought it was just gonna be
Speaker 2: the one movie star and then a bunch of like unknowns.
Speaker 2: But exact they got Sandra Oh, I mean Sandro might
Speaker 2: be playing Charles Melton's mother.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe good point? Maybe?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Damon and Sandra O are in the early
Speaker 2: you know time period, yes, where they're you know, the
Speaker 2: kids are teenagers and then grown up Charles Milton.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I don't know how it's all gonna shake out,
Speaker 2: but good for him. Yeah, But so, yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: like every everybody, there's only like a hand. It's the same.
Speaker 2: You know five ten twenty actors that you always hear like,
Speaker 2: that's who Hollywood is trying to build everything around. Charles
Speaker 2: Melton also has that Netflix movie Saturn Return coming out.
Speaker 2: I think that's right later this year. That's supposed to
Speaker 2: be a Wards contender.
Speaker 1: So hey, Harris Dickinson, this is your career call in
Speaker 1: your bro, you better start stepping up. A Lord and
Speaker 1: Melton are just surpassing you right now. Better stepping up,
Speaker 1: aris man. Come on, Uh, speaking of Melton, one more story,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this. Let's get into the X Men's story.
Speaker 1: You reported this, Jeff, that you had heard rumors that
Speaker 1: he is in talks or possibly in consideration for playing
Speaker 1: Beasts in the X Men. And this comes on the
Speaker 1: heels of this conversation being had here for a beef
Speaker 1: Lee Sung Jin, who talked about writing the new film
Speaker 1: for X Men. It differs from his filmmaker, from his filmmaker,
Speaker 1: Jake Shryer's time on Thunderbolts. He was speaking with Deadline.
Speaker 1: He said, I'd say he said, I'd say, there were
Speaker 1: actually more parameters on Thunderbolts because it was plugging into
Speaker 1: existing arc and existing characters, whereas with X Men, Kevin
Speaker 1: Fiker just wants to take a big swing and start
Speaker 1: a new not people hold into any of the movies
Speaker 1: that have come before. Jake Schryer has a clear vision
Speaker 1: in terms of wanting to get back to the character
Speaker 1: first and to what is exciting about those early Cliss
Speaker 1: Chris Claremont run comics, which was all about team dynamics. So,
Speaker 1: by the way, I have all of those runs. Hold on, Lee, no, sorry,
Speaker 1: hold on, let me get the name here? Was Lee
Speaker 1: Sung Jin? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that he's rewriting the script.
Speaker 1: Okay, right, right, right, So what are your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the Milton thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know where the big thing, the big
Speaker 2: swing thing came from.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it came from that quote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I I never, like never understand why
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be a big swing? Is it going to
Speaker 2: be a small swing? Yeah, it's a big swing.
Speaker 1: It's X Men.
Speaker 2: We gotta do something different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, what do you think that?
Speaker 1: What do you speculate to like, looking at the X
Speaker 1: Men now right, looking at what has gone on the
Speaker 1: kind of mixed bag of quality of these X Men movies.
Speaker 1: What is the big swing do you think that they
Speaker 1: would need to take if you were advising Marvel at
Speaker 1: this point, I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know comments well enough to be able
Speaker 2: to say what that big swing should because the big
Speaker 2: swing should be in terms of story, not in.
Speaker 1: Terms of I agree with that, yes, okay, So.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is like, I so when I first
Speaker 2: heard Melton's name, yeah, I got Scott.
Speaker 1: Oh, Scott Summers, Yeah sure, yeah, cyclops for sure. I
Speaker 1: can see that.
Speaker 2: You can just see him with the eye gear and whatnot totally.
Speaker 2: Then I asked people, I was like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm hearing Melton, like, have you hear what he's like?
Speaker 2: You know what he may be up for? And so
Speaker 2: that's when I heard beast right. So I don't know
Speaker 2: if they're looking at somebody younger for Scott.
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: What about but you because before, as a greater board,
Speaker 2: you hear all these different rumors and then you gotta wait.
Speaker 2: You got a track, you gotta wait for this guy
Speaker 2: to knock get it. I'm just gonna throw it all
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: You know, you said you've been and you said in
Speaker 1: your report that Peter Claffee was in contention. Couldn't you say.
Speaker 2: As a Scott that was when I say in contention. Yeah,
Speaker 2: these guys are coming in from meetings, they're coming into Baby.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're just meeting Jake, you know, for a general
Speaker 2: to see just fit in somewhere. Sometimes it's reading for
Speaker 2: a specific role like i'd heard, you know, Charles did
Speaker 2: for Beast. It always no matter what turns in on
Speaker 2: the internet to so and so's in talk, so and
Speaker 2: So's in talks for beasts.
Speaker 1: You guys don't know what talks means.
Speaker 2: Stop using the word like it just drives me crazy.
Speaker 1: Clearly they can.
Speaker 2: Hear literally like I'm at the valet stand and I
Speaker 2: audition rvies. You should come on in on Monday. He's
Speaker 2: in talks. That's what they think.
Speaker 1: This is. Okay, Well, are you hearing any other names?
Speaker 1: Are you hearing anything else around the X men situation?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: What have you got? Like? Is there anything be whispering
Speaker 1: in your ear at.
Speaker 2: This point other than you know, Wagner, I've heard the
Speaker 2: Odessa thing again. I've heard Odessa or something else though
Speaker 2: that got denied.
Speaker 1: But okay, it just again it showed me.
Speaker 2: Like Melton interested in her right, she just shared the
Speaker 2: scream with Timothy Shallomet in Marty's Stream, which, before back
Speaker 2: Rooms was a twenty four's biggest movie. Yep, there's a
Speaker 2: reward at the end of that tunnel. Is the reward
Speaker 2: an X Men movie or is it the lead in
Speaker 2: a big prestige movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's for possible. Yeah. Yeah. And you're saying that
Speaker 1: they're going to start pre production later on this year.
Speaker 1: How sure are you on that? You said that in
Speaker 1: your report, right, see.
Speaker 2: And that's the other thing, right, People will read stuff
Speaker 2: and then they'll be like, oh, this is you know,
Speaker 2: so this source said that. You know, these are different sources.
Speaker 2: What I'm getting it, These are different people. And so
Speaker 2: that element with like the pre production stuff. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: that stuff's good.
Speaker 1: You can take that. Okay, okay, okay, and real quick,
Speaker 1: just anybody who is into the X Men comics, as
Speaker 1: Jeff said that he is not one hundred percent into
Speaker 1: these X Men comics life. You've never read a single
Speaker 1: X Men comic never in my life. Dude. You should
Speaker 1: come over. You spend the weekend. I love you. John Byrne,
Speaker 1: reclusive and polarizing creator John Byrne is returning to the
Speaker 1: X Men. I remember reading his runs in the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 1: He's going to return this. He's going to create a
Speaker 1: thing called X Men else When, which is this new
Speaker 1: and possibly final comics project. Just to be connected there
Speaker 1: with the X Men. I wanted to throw that in
Speaker 1: there as well. For those of you who are big
Speaker 1: comic readers. Put that on your looking out for list.
Speaker 2: As little disrespectful little ship Pierre Campbell, So you've got nothing?
Speaker 2: What what do we promise you, Pierre?
Speaker 1: Why do you care what Pierre thinks? Pierres nobody's sitting
Speaker 1: in a basement eating porkrins. What do you give a
Speaker 1: ship man? Now, we come on, let's ignore him. Man,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Come on, Uh he's not much, but
Speaker 1: let's stay in the marble track. Let's talk about it. Jeff.
Speaker 1: We got ourselves a Spider Man brand new day trailer.
Speaker 1: We got to see a little of Is this a symbio?
Speaker 1: Is this man Spider? What's going on with those black eyes? Is?
Speaker 1: We got to see Hulk finally become a little savage.
Speaker 1: We got to see uh, whoever this might be, possibly
Speaker 1: Jean Gray. We don't know. Messing with people's minds, messing
Speaker 1: with Speeder Peter. We got to see the hand, We
Speaker 1: got to see Frank Castle more tamed Frank Castle in
Speaker 1: this trailer as well. So what are your thoughts on
Speaker 1: the trailer? Do you like this? Do you like where
Speaker 1: this is going it's headed? And what stood out to
Speaker 1: you from this?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Didn't watch it? You just spoiled the whole thing for me?
Speaker 1: What the fuck put I sent ittor the rundown last night?
Speaker 1: How did you not watch it?
Speaker 2: I don't read the rundowns. Oh my god, I just say, yep, good, okay, trailer.
Speaker 2: I did not watch the last one? Like, how many
Speaker 2: Spider Man trailers do we need?
Speaker 1: Guys? It's only the second one? What are you being
Speaker 1: histrionic about? It's only the second one? Movie?
Speaker 2: Do we need spoiled? I had no interest in watching
Speaker 2: this trailer, and now I'm seeing half the images from Okay,
Speaker 2: the Jean Gray talk out there, I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it seems like the worst kept secret in Hollywood at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because if you watch the trailer, she
Speaker 1: seems kind of villainous. She's controlling people's minds.
Speaker 2: Isn't Jean Gray villainous.
Speaker 1: No, what she's dark Phoenix's villainous, but not Jean Gray.
Speaker 1: In the in the trailer, she's controlling people's minds, she's
Speaker 1: messing with Peter, she's threatening to go after MJ. And
Speaker 1: so there is what is this? La is this you know,
Speaker 1: kind of throwing us off the scent that she might
Speaker 1: not be Jean Gray, like is the curious things overall?
Speaker 1: And apparently she takes control of the Hulk, which is
Speaker 1: what makes him kind of flip out and be big.
Speaker 1: So gotta be interesting to see this, all right, if
Speaker 1: you didn't watch.
Speaker 2: It, didn't watch, I'd tell you this movie doesn't sound good.
Speaker 1: You're insane, You're fucking insane. It sounds incredible.
Speaker 2: Yes, what is the story being told here?
Speaker 1: We don't know yet, bro, We don't know yet other
Speaker 1: than Peter navigating the loss of Ned and MJ and
Speaker 1: the loss of his May of May. And also he's
Speaker 1: evolving in some way. Why is he evolving? What is
Speaker 1: going on? So he's got to figure out what is
Speaker 1: going on with his evolution year and how the Hand
Speaker 1: come into play, how Punisher comes into play, and Hulk
Speaker 1: and all of this stuff. So that's a lot of
Speaker 1: these things come into play. I don't know. We'll find out,
Speaker 1: we'll find out where the movie drops. If anybody wants
Speaker 1: to mile watch my reaction, I posted it this morning.
Speaker 1: I recorded it in a mall in the Hoya yesterday
Speaker 1: because Lady Outlaw wanted to go see the Rue Paul movie,
Speaker 1: and we went yesterday afternoon, had a nice lunch and
Speaker 1: watch Stop that Train. Can I tell you. Not a
Speaker 1: bad movie, not great, not gonna win the Oscars, but
Speaker 1: it's eminently watchable. For ninety minutes, I was laughing Stop
Speaker 1: that Train. The Rue Paul movie, I'm telling you, it
Speaker 1: was surprisingly funny. I did not anticipate that. I thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna be bored to tears, and I had
Speaker 1: a good time with it. So just putting that out
Speaker 1: there for you all. Jeff, I won't to ask you
Speaker 1: about this. Let's move on to one superhero. You do
Speaker 1: know something about Supergirl is coming out here. I have
Speaker 1: my screenings next week. I don't know when your screening
Speaker 1: is or if you've been invited.
Speaker 2: To have.
Speaker 1: But apparently Warner Brothers has moved up their social media
Speaker 1: reactions to this house by six days. Wow. So so
Speaker 1: let me ask you this because We talk about this
Speaker 1: all the time on the show. Some people go like, well,
Speaker 1: this shows how much confidence they have in the movie,
Speaker 1: or because they have not screened it for all the
Speaker 1: other markets except for LA New York, is this them
Speaker 1: moving it up because they're carefully curated critics and influencers.
Speaker 1: They want them to deliver their very positive responses before
Speaker 1: the rest of us get to see it and react
Speaker 1: to it. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, they show it to the junket tears
Speaker 2: and that way there's enough reviews to spark a score
Speaker 2: on Rotten Tomatoes, Okay, and so that score is usually
Speaker 2: higher than it would be if they just waited, you know,
Speaker 2: a full embargo with the whole media wing in so
Speaker 2: the squirrel will be higher. And then they can take
Speaker 2: that and put that in an ad and say it's
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 1: As of June seventh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like three the movie. Yeah, and basically just
Speaker 2: go with that score for the whole campaign. They don't
Speaker 2: need to change, they don't need to update it because
Speaker 2: an ad that says hundred percent Rotten Tomatoes and then
Speaker 2: that's a fucking review and it goes down to ninety eight.
Speaker 2: You think that they call the TV station and say, oh,
Speaker 2: no longer a hundred anymore. It's still one hundred in the.
Speaker 1: Ad disclosure Day ninety three, eighty seven, eighty two, eighty one. Exactly.
Speaker 1: They won't do that. You're right on that level. But
Speaker 1: this is shenaniganst Jeff. At what point does this Shenanigan stop?
Speaker 1: It's getting so fu especially because WB absolutely quarter the
Speaker 1: market on this more than any other.
Speaker 2: I mean's on both sides, John, How can you add?
Speaker 2: It's like, I agree asking the studios to act seriously
Speaker 2: when we have articles about Rotten Tomatoes critics who are
Speaker 2: gaming the system so that they can bet on Calshie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean that that article was fucking insane. If you
Speaker 2: guys haven't ready, I'll read it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's interviews with like eight different critics who have done
Speaker 2: this essentially or thought about doing it, and would do
Speaker 2: it if they were offered a little bit more money.
Speaker 1: Wow, Like just blatantly.
Speaker 2: Changing reviews Like because I guess you can do that.
Speaker 2: I have no idea how the system works. The system
Speaker 2: is so dumb. Rotten Tomatoes is the worst, one of
Speaker 2: the worst websites on the Internet, so whit hold on.
Speaker 1: I think the people who manipulate it make it one
Speaker 1: of the worst websites. The idea of Rotten Tomatoes is great.
Speaker 1: The fact that you can go to one site and
Speaker 1: see some of your favorite film critics all compiled and
Speaker 1: have a link to read their reviews on stuff. I
Speaker 1: think that's great. The different looking about is the way
Speaker 1: they're manipulating that site. I agree with you on that.
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that.
Speaker 2: But they it's because they open the floodgates.
Speaker 1: Yes, maybe Tom Dick.
Speaker 2: And Harry is accredited on fucking Rotten Tomatoes, which is
Speaker 2: why always some for some weird reason. Yeah, the fifteen
Speaker 2: point differential between Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic. Oh yeah, critic
Speaker 2: actually only puts professional critics on there. Yeah, critics who
Speaker 2: maybe wouldn't compromise their ethics. Yeah, well yeah, mosman, this
Speaker 2: is a fucking amateur joke. It's no difference than the
Speaker 2: IMDb uh scores or fucking letterbox scores. It's all I mean,
Speaker 2: the letterbox. This is like the new thing that studios
Speaker 2: are doing to manipulate Nicky from obsession. Is gonna have
Speaker 2: her own letterbox to count well, guess what she's rating things,
Speaker 2: and those ratings are real. They check the actual fucking score.
Speaker 2: So it's the whole thing is a goddamn joke. It's
Speaker 2: all marketing, it's all fucking game. It's all stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I mean, I haven't read that article.
Speaker 1: This is the first time hearing. Man, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to read it after we're done with the show, uh,
Speaker 1: because it frustrates the piss out of me. I take
Speaker 1: criticizing movies very, very seriously, because I was, you know,
Speaker 1: raised on those critics Pauline and kale A Cisco and
Speaker 1: Ebert recently, oh yeah, Gene Shallatte passing away recently, I
Speaker 1: think and Rex read like all these guys I grew
Speaker 1: up a ow In Glibra and Peter Travers, like the
Speaker 1: Elvis Mitchell, these Tom Shales, these critics like influenced me
Speaker 1: to look and watch things. Leonard Malton, of course, friend
Speaker 1: of the show and friend of the showdown. He was great.
Speaker 1: And so what has happened now is there so many
Speaker 1: young people coming in who have no knowledge of the
Speaker 1: past of criticism think that I can just talk about
Speaker 1: a film. Therefore I am a critic and you're right,
Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes has just loosened the qualifications for all of it.
Speaker 1: And now those people come in with their sliding scale
Speaker 1: of ethics, sliding scale of morality, and they're killing it.
Speaker 1: And a lot of them just want to stroke their
Speaker 1: own egos and feel the influencer love from people. Instead
Speaker 1: of taking their job seriously and being professionals. They want
Speaker 1: to get their ass kissed by their followers and by
Speaker 1: the studio, and that destroys the whole foundation of criticism.
Speaker 1: And it's fucking frustrating to see it. Man, you know
Speaker 1: it's so I agree with you on that end. I
Speaker 1: do agree with you on that end. So uh okay, anyway,
Speaker 1: let's move on from that. Okay, go ahead, bring it up.
Speaker 2: Think should be discussed. Okay, So first I'm going to
Speaker 2: show you guys my screen with Jamie here. This is
Speaker 2: from wednesday. I guess yesterday, Yeah, I guess. So, okay,
Speaker 2: we're talking about alien right because that was gonna be
Speaker 2: the next topic. Yes, I'll let you set it up.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, all right, So Jeff, you talked about this
Speaker 1: in your newsletter here. You speculated that Ridley Scott here
Speaker 1: might be the impediment that is going on here for
Speaker 1: trying to land a director for Alien Rodulus sequel. The
Speaker 1: recent director of Evil, Dead Burne was apparently in talks
Speaker 1: with those talks fell apart, and Fenni Alvas was unceremoniously
Speaker 1: removed from coming back to do the sequel, and there's
Speaker 1: been a lot of speculation. We've discussed it on the
Speaker 1: show this. I think I remember saying that that Ridley
Speaker 1: might want to direct this thing, which is why he's
Speaker 1: kind of muddy in the waters. What are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on this? What are you hearing about this?
Speaker 2: Okay, so Alien, I'd heard a while ago that they
Speaker 2: were looking that they were talking to Sebastian Vanicheck, right,
Speaker 2: who did Evil Debt that didn't work. I think he'll
Speaker 2: still end up working with the studio on something else,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if it didn't. It sounded
Speaker 2: like maybe it didn't work out because of you know,
Speaker 2: what we had talked about with Ridley, Like Ridley, you know,
Speaker 2: it was really wants some closure with this franchise or
Speaker 2: whatever one wants to do another one, you know, I
Speaker 2: think that there may be some resistance regarding that. So anyways,
Speaker 2: the breaking so so like you know, before just now
Speaker 2: or you know, basically before yesterday, I didn't really know
Speaker 2: where where it's doing. I knew it was a priority,
Speaker 2: you know. I think that maybe there was a Michael
Speaker 2: Saranovsky rumor at one point who did a quiet place.
Speaker 2: But so, yeah, then we started hearing Brian Duffield. Oh
Speaker 2: interesting for the studio and Whiale Follow looks tremendous.
Speaker 1: It does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'd heard him and was gonna maybe run
Speaker 2: that as a rumor soon or whatever. But I guess
Speaker 2: Daniel RpK just did something about it. He said that
Speaker 2: Field is actually going to be writing the new Alien movie.
Speaker 2: Oh and unclear whether he'll wind up directing. I imagine
Speaker 2: unless he gets some huge mega offer that he probably
Speaker 2: would stick around to direct it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: That is an interesting distinction, uh, because Brian is a
Speaker 2: great writer. So they just bring him to write the
Speaker 2: script right now and we'll see and then he'll take
Speaker 2: it from there. You know, they'll decide if he's going
Speaker 2: to direct it once they see it.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's about testing out to like see
Speaker 1: if we like working with him, and then we might
Speaker 1: give him the They just did Whale Follow with him. Well,
Speaker 1: then why not give him the director's chair. What is
Speaker 1: this all about? I don't know. Yeah, and Jose massive
Speaker 1: question of it all. What happens to Fede screenplay. That's
Speaker 1: a great question as well.
Speaker 2: I think that'll probably get toasted.
Speaker 1: God damn it, God damn fuck. If this is all
Speaker 1: because of Ridley, Man, get the fuck out of the way,
Speaker 1: old man, Like, seriously, get the fuck out of the way.
Speaker 1: Let young creatives come in. Do you not see what
Speaker 1: Dan track DeBerg has been doing.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what he's been doing, is letting it,
Speaker 2: I mean to direct it, you know, Yeah, he's been
Speaker 2: letting people do that. But yeah, you know, this is
Speaker 2: this is his baby he.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I guess when you look.
Speaker 2: At the rest of that development slate, it's like I
Speaker 2: kind of get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but I mean those US two
Speaker 1: movies from his his were not well received by the
Speaker 1: fan base overall, and so I don't know why he
Speaker 1: wants to come back. Alien Covenant was trashed, Promethea is
Speaker 1: a very divisive movie, but Alien Rodulus got people back
Speaker 1: on board and excited for it. Now you want to
Speaker 1: come in, It's like having a backup quarterback. Take the
Speaker 1: team to a thirty five.
Speaker 2: Person his like, I don't know. Yes, yes, he wants
Speaker 2: the perfect time. Maybe that's why Duffield is only writing
Speaker 2: as of right now. According to Daniel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just think it's the wrong move. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you got to move your ego out of the way
Speaker 1: and I think what's best for the project, and it's
Speaker 1: not always you, all right, Anything more to say on that?
Speaker 1: Anything more to say on that? Jeff?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think.
Speaker 1: Okay. I want to get your thoughts, Jeff. A follow
Speaker 1: up on our story from last week. You were you've
Speaker 1: been taking a little bit of guff on your report
Speaker 1: here on The Batman two with Brian Tyree Henry and
Speaker 1: Victor z Oz for Sebastian Stan. Is there anything you
Speaker 1: want to say to the people who've been giving you
Speaker 1: a little bit of guff, who've been going back in
Speaker 1: time to find articles from seven years ago to say,
Speaker 1: don't listen to Jeff Stider because he got this one thing.
Speaker 2: Wrong eleven years ago.
Speaker 1: Fifteen indeed, yeah, yeah, and I almost reposted some of
Speaker 1: these because I think it's a little ridiculous. But whatever,
Speaker 1: wait your thoughts.
Speaker 2: I'm just waiting for the sweet communication. Listen we've seen
Speaker 2: certain people at certain studios deny certain things within certain
Speaker 2: minutes or certain hours. Yeah, now it's been certain days.
Speaker 1: Have we seen any denials. We haven't seen any denials.
Speaker 1: We have not.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen them either. Again, I just say I
Speaker 2: think there's a big game that's afoot. I'll tell you
Speaker 2: this much.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel more confident in it than I did when
Speaker 2: I posted it.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Okay, all right, because.
Speaker 2: I posted it, but now I know you were, But
Speaker 2: now I feel even more.
Speaker 1: That's why I say wow, because you work. We had
Speaker 1: conversations off Mike before you posted it. I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I feel a lot better. Some people have come
Speaker 1: out at this whole thing like, oh, well, he's got
Speaker 1: the characters confused or whatever. Like, but you're clear about
Speaker 1: who it is. You've vetted them, you've asked the questions.
Speaker 1: You know these characters. So I just want to make
Speaker 1: that clear. People makes all kinds of shit.
Speaker 2: Sweet, It's gonna be sweet. But I just love how
Speaker 2: like dumb people are, like, yes, such a dumb ass.
Speaker 2: Hey probably read the script and saw a Harvey and
Speaker 2: just that Dent didn't even know there was a bullek
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that kind of dumb ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you wouldn't believe the ship I've read about
Speaker 2: me on just like people who don't know me, don't
Speaker 2: know how I work, don't know a thing, They just
Speaker 2: know what they want to be true. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 2: to me, the disease in this whole country, John, and
Speaker 2: why we are where we are, it's that people literally
Speaker 2: don't believe the people that there that they used to
Speaker 2: believe that.
Speaker 1: They Yeah, no, it's a really good point. It's an
Speaker 1: excellent point to bring up, Jeff, You're so right on that.
Speaker 1: The but I saw somebody post uh something that I
Speaker 1: thought was one of the most hypocritical tweets that were, like,
Speaker 1: from what I from what I'm hearing, don't believe what
Speaker 1: other people are reporting about what they're hearing about the film, right,
Speaker 1: So so basically, don't believe the other people believe me, like,
Speaker 1: don't believe what they're hearing, believe what I'm hearing.
Speaker 2: Followers, and my name is not on my account exactly
Speaker 2: track record, so dumb.
Speaker 1: You know what it reminds me of.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of all these fucking arm chair Adam Schefter's. Now,
Speaker 2: oh about the guys, I've got the details on the
Speaker 2: Yannas trade.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be concumed this afternoon at four o'clock. Like,
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up. That's half my feet because I'm
Speaker 2: a Celtics guy. Half like some fucking jackass being like
Speaker 2: subscribed to my substack. I'm I'm a fucking insider with
Speaker 2: food followers. Like, shut up.
Speaker 1: Good point, good point. Let's move one to some A
Speaker 1: couple of other things here, Jeff, we got some information
Speaker 1: here on the new Shaka King movie. Apparently King Uh, Danielkhluia,
Speaker 1: Tanna Taylor are set to star in the Parlay that's
Speaker 1: the name of the film from director Shaka King, who
Speaker 1: did Judas and The Black Messiah. I think all of
Speaker 1: us in the film community have been collectively wondering when
Speaker 1: we were going to get another Shaka King movie, and
Speaker 1: now apparently it's happening. I love this combo. Tanna is
Speaker 1: a force of nature. Daniel Khley is an incredible actor.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2: I agree? I like it too. I don't really know
Speaker 2: we know too much about the loud line.
Speaker 1: Did they put the Yeah, It's based on an original
Speaker 1: screenplayed by writer Zach Akers and Skip Bronki.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: They're revising the script. Story details, though, remain under wraps.
Speaker 1: It's being described as an action crime thriller, which is
Speaker 1: pretty broad.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so okay, we don't really know and Acres
Speaker 2: and he they wrote him which was like it was
Speaker 2: an entertaining read.
Speaker 1: But my god, that movie was bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little nervous about them, but I do Hey,
Speaker 2: Khlia Deanna Taylor, I really like that pairing under the
Speaker 2: direction of Pecha King, Like, yeah, I just want to
Speaker 2: know what the story is, but I'm down, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just to you know, give a little back.
Speaker 1: This coincides with the stories of the rumors that are
Speaker 1: going around to Daniel Coluia has cut ties with this
Speaker 1: supposed life strategist that he was connected to because he'd
Speaker 1: gone on a sabbatical for four years from acting. So
Speaker 1: maybe and it's interesting that Shaka King, the guy who
Speaker 1: helped him get to an Oscar nomination Oscar Win rather
Speaker 1: is going is opening the door of this project to
Speaker 1: bring him in. I think this is gonna be great.
Speaker 1: It's still gonna be the return of Daniel Kluia. He
Speaker 1: were going to fall back in love with his talent
Speaker 1: and his abilities and hopefully this guy's the limit for
Speaker 1: this guy going forward, because it was weird that he
Speaker 1: disappeared for four years. Dude, he's too good to be
Speaker 1: sitting on the sidelines. Brother, you know, what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this? We also got this come through here
Speaker 1: Ryan Coogler is has moved his deal which recently ended
Speaker 1: with Disney, and he has now moved over to Netflix.
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on this? Do you like
Speaker 1: that he has gone over to Netflix? And what do
Speaker 1: you anticipate is going to be happening here?
Speaker 2: I mean, I have no idea what he's looking to do.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was just a matter of money.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like he was struggling to get
Speaker 2: stuff on the air at Disney. He had Ironheart was
Speaker 2: his right X files at Hulu, so you know he
Speaker 2: was being productive. Yeah, I imagine Netflix has offered him
Speaker 2: more money or whatever. This is not hurt And they
Speaker 2: got Quinta Brunson today from Warner Brothers, right, So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just a you know, a game of musical chairs.
Speaker 2: And besides, even with all these deals.
Speaker 1: Exclusive this over all that blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Blah, these guys are doing projects all over, aren't they.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't you know, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the deal deals are, because does this mean he'll do
Speaker 1: Black Panther three and then he's done with Marvel and
Speaker 1: Disney for with the Wakanda stuff, Like now there's going to.
Speaker 2: Netflix five years you know, yes, after Black that's yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's the TV deal, right, this is this isn't
Speaker 2: a film building.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah he's there, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm curious. Let's get two big stories here, Jeff,
Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on Fox? By Roku here for twenty
Speaker 1: two billion dollars? I was reading Bloomberg Business and Vultures
Speaker 1: breakdown of this, and this seems very much like Fox
Speaker 1: being proactive to take advantage of where viewers are going,
Speaker 1: which is moving away from traditional TV and moving on
Speaker 1: to these platforms and these streaming situations. So do you
Speaker 1: like this as a move for Fox? This makes sense
Speaker 1: them trying to replace what they sold when they went
Speaker 1: to Disney. Your thoughts on the stuff?
Speaker 2: This is a very good, uh move for Fox. I
Speaker 2: won't pretend that I know all the numbers and stats
Speaker 2: or whatever, but like Roku is used in a solid
Speaker 2: number of homes. Yeah, and this gives Fox more flexibility
Speaker 2: it could do. It could team up like Roku and
Speaker 2: two be Yes.
Speaker 1: This two Bees under Fox as well.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that they
Speaker 2: can do with it. I think it was a good
Speaker 2: business and it was just like a prime m and
Speaker 2: a target that was kind of sitting out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: kudos to Murdoch for getting that done.
Speaker 1: But this shows how we're just you know, because there
Speaker 1: was rumors that Ruffrix was Netflix was gonna go get
Speaker 1: lions Gate and that's been kind of disputed. So what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that? Do you think that's not happening?
Speaker 1: Because I mean, just this feels like the conglomeration of entertainment.
Speaker 1: This is what it's becoming. Everything is under these windows
Speaker 1: and morality kind of gets thrown out the window if
Speaker 1: you want to enjoy entertainment, it seems like in this situation.
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on the Netflix lines gip
Speaker 1: is that happening not happening?
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it came from Semaphore, which to me
Speaker 2: does not have like a big track record as far
Speaker 2: as entertainment reporting goes.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do I think this is their forte? Not exactly. Do
Speaker 2: I think that they could have kicked the tires? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it's bad, bad business. Not too If lions
Speaker 2: Gates are for sale, you go in there, you take
Speaker 2: a look at the books. If you can't, you know,
Speaker 2: find out what the number is that they're looking for.
Speaker 2: But at in the day, Yeah, it could be just
Speaker 2: what Netflix said, Yeah, we're not interested. I meant I
Speaker 2: was surprised when I heard it. Yeah, it's like, what
Speaker 2: does Netflix really need with lions Gate? I get the
Speaker 2: Hunger Games and John Wick like, is it really about
Speaker 2: your hands on that ip? So they make odd bedfellows.
Speaker 2: So I don't think it'll happen, right, I don't know
Speaker 2: if it you know, if if it was a conversation
Speaker 2: at some point, But yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know how you go from w B to lions Gate. Like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I mean, WB is what you want to get, right,
Speaker 1: It's like that scene in Defending Your Life. Don't show
Speaker 1: me that other card before you show me my BMW.
Speaker 2: You know, well and get what you can. I mean
Speaker 2: to me, when I first heard the lions Gate Netflix thing,
Speaker 2: to me, it was like, oh, Netflix is just trying
Speaker 2: to take a competitor off the board.
Speaker 1: Mm hm oh yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's not going to break the bank, and
Speaker 2: we can just like wipe out whole studios theatrical releases
Speaker 2: or or play the theatrical game like they said that
Speaker 2: they wanted to right when when they were gonna buy
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers. Maybe they start saying that's, you know, same
Speaker 2: stuff again with Lionsgate, or maybe they just take him
Speaker 2: off the board entirely, and it's like, yeah, you want
Speaker 2: to see Hunger Games, you want to see John Wick.
Speaker 2: It's all on Netflix now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, here the franchises I think that are under
Speaker 1: the John Wick and for Lionsgate, Hunger Games, Twilight, Saga,
Speaker 1: which could make a comeback, Saw the Blair Witch Project,
Speaker 1: now you see Me, Divergent, possibly the expendables certainly still.
Speaker 2: Streamers need exactly. Yeah, it does have those. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: it's like, is that is that the play?
Speaker 1: They also I have sixty five hundred additional ips, including
Speaker 1: Yellow Jackets and The Rookie. They did films like Green Book, Spotlight,
Speaker 1: The Woman King, So there's a lot here that they
Speaker 1: could possibly just kind of consume into their overall pot
Speaker 1: for Netflix, but I don't think it'd be as big
Speaker 1: of a splash as Warner Brothers obviously, So.
Speaker 2: I've heard ness to get their hands on on the
Speaker 2: Spotlight right so they can do Spotlight two. It's about
Speaker 2: Jelly Roll's divorce, Jenny Roll.
Speaker 1: I might do a video on that this weekend. That
Speaker 1: is drama on so many levels that fuck out Jelly Roll. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do we want to talk about this?
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about January sixth movie? And
Speaker 1: talks to stay with Sean pen Sean Pender. It's said
Speaker 1: to be probably based on the life of Fenoen, the guy,
Speaker 1: the officer who has been the most vocal of the
Speaker 1: officers who's attacked that day on January sixth, But they're
Speaker 1: saying that it's not a January sixth movie. It's about
Speaker 1: his early rise to become a police officer, and then
Speaker 1: maybe the last few minutes is about January sixth. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this, Jeff? And are you surprised
Speaker 1: that Warner Brothers, which is about to be bought up
Speaker 1: by a Trump loving paramount company, would be doing this? No,
Speaker 1: not surprised. Do you think it'll happen that's the other question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's another question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Chanpann has three oscars, just one another oscar
Speaker 2: obviously for a turn to Warner Brothers movie to respect
Speaker 2: him as a director up there, Bradley Cooper is super
Speaker 2: important to them, So I don't think that, you know,
Speaker 2: they're just making announcemance for the hell of it up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think.
Speaker 2: I think you're right, Like, I don't think this is
Speaker 2: like a January sixth movie. I think this is a
Speaker 2: story about a cop who you know, and like you said,
Speaker 2: it ends on January sixth. Yeah, it shows what led
Speaker 2: him to that, you know all that. I think it
Speaker 2: could be good. I don't think that we deserve this
Speaker 2: movie because frankly, people don't deserve our other Bradley Cooper
Speaker 2: copp movie, which is The Place Beyond the Mines.
Speaker 1: No, right, yes, I know that's it's a sticking point
Speaker 1: for you, so you don't.
Speaker 2: But it was an again inevitable that we're going to
Speaker 2: get a story about January sixth, and I'm glad you're
Speaker 2: not just getting the version of that story that we
Speaker 2: would all imagine, you.
Speaker 1: Know, right right right. This is going to be an
Speaker 1: interesting approach from the ground up for a police officer
Speaker 1: and what he experienced there for sure. Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like these days. Look, Sean Ben's been very outspoken
Speaker 1: cooper as well, So I'll be curious to see what
Speaker 1: this film is going to end up becoming when it
Speaker 1: finally comes out, if it ever comes out. So all right,
Speaker 1: Well you want to get to the questions?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: Shall we get to the questions? We got like twenty
Speaker 1: one of them? Shall we start? Are you right? No? Oh?
Speaker 1: You want to do? What else we want to talk about?
Speaker 1: Get it on, Jeff?
Speaker 2: The additions that I told you to add last night?
Speaker 1: All right? I didn't know if you want to talk
Speaker 1: to him. You didn't give me any updates. So let's
Speaker 1: do it. All right, let's get it. This is the
Speaker 1: big part of the show here, Jeff. Go ahead, You've
Speaker 1: got a all right cruise.
Speaker 2: Here's let me sit up, pitch you.
Speaker 1: Some of you are watching this right now? How many
Speaker 1: people are watching the show right now? Uh? Five hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty? There you go?
Speaker 2: Are all five hundred and twenty of you subscribe to
Speaker 2: the fucking Newslater?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Are all five hundred and twenty you
Speaker 1: sending in a little bit of donation. We'd appreciate that
Speaker 1: as well. Go ahead, Yes, I would appreciate that. But
Speaker 1: the newsletter had the goods this week.
Speaker 2: And I know that because I've spoken to every fucking
Speaker 2: studio publicist because they've called freaking out. Okay, Wow, I
Speaker 2: got a nineteen page document, okay, of studio mandates for
Speaker 2: this summer you know whatever. It was written in like
Speaker 2: mid to late May. Essentially, Okay, this these were This
Speaker 2: is an external document. This is not you know, Warner
Speaker 2: Brothers compiling this information about itself, but it's compiled by
Speaker 2: an agency or a management company. So they're talking to
Speaker 2: a representative of Warner Brothers, you know, maybe the executive there,
Speaker 2: an assistant who's on an important desk, whatever it may be,
Speaker 2: get this information.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of juicy stuff in here, and
Speaker 2: I've been publishing it. I've decided to do it over
Speaker 2: five days, even though I could have stretched out to
Speaker 2: like seven or ten days. I am a bunch of groups
Speaker 2: of studios together, and I'm just basically running the document
Speaker 2: as is verbatim within my own analysis. So day one
Speaker 2: it was Disney Searchlight twentieth Century Studios and Lucasfilm. Yes,
Speaker 2: I took something out about Lucasfilm because I you know.
Speaker 4: Obviously clearly I've got sources that lucasfilmly had a pretty
Speaker 4: good track record as far as Star Wars, and so
Speaker 4: the juiciest thing that was in there they actually told
Speaker 4: me to take out, okay, because it wasn't accurate, But
Speaker 4: I'll share what it was right now.
Speaker 1: Oh, go ahead. In the document, yes.
Speaker 2: There was a line about the future of Star Wars
Speaker 2: TV shows, okay, and it mentioned this, shows about this
Speaker 2: and shows about this. And then the third thing that
Speaker 2: it said was that they were exploring the idea of
Speaker 2: doing horror in the Star Wars you know whoa Now, again,
Speaker 2: my source says that this is not accurate.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's not accurate.
Speaker 2: Okrect you said it's it's not true. But I did, like,
Speaker 2: I thought that was very interesting because obviously horror is
Speaker 2: having a moment right now.
Speaker 1: It's super Yes, yes, I.
Speaker 2: Know, Star Wars is supposed to be this family friendly
Speaker 2: brand and it's you know, you could still do family
Speaker 2: friendly horror in a way, but is there a way?
Speaker 2: I mean, should imagine somebody fucking going on an attack
Speaker 2: with the force, just like chron like Chronicle with Date
Speaker 2: with but Dan Dahon has the force, or someone who's
Speaker 2: going around on a rampage with like a lightsaber or
Speaker 2: something like, yeah, a slasher movie with a lightsaber. I
Speaker 2: have no fucking idea what they had in mind, if
Speaker 2: they had anything mind, I'm told it's not true.
Speaker 1: But it was fascinating. Okay, that was like some I took.
Speaker 2: Out from Lucasfilms. Paramount Uh, sorry, Disney, what else was Disney? Well,
Speaker 2: let's cut to today. So today I did Warner Brothers.
Speaker 2: In Paramounts under Warner Brothers, there's a line about how
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers is on the down well quietly looking for
Speaker 2: epic R rated horror for Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1: Whoa top this Tom Cruise? That is Tom Cruise?
Speaker 2: That Tom Cruise?
Speaker 1: If they're looking for something along the lines of the Shining.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what I'm like trying to.
Speaker 2: Think, you know, big horror, you know what what could
Speaker 2: that be? And who could it be with? And I
Speaker 2: just think if they paired him with a Ryan Coogler
Speaker 2: or Zach Kreiger and they put the trigger on mountains
Speaker 2: at the Mountains of Madness, that would be so fucking cool.
Speaker 1: Fascinating.
Speaker 2: And so when I put this to my Warner Brothers insider,
Speaker 2: they laughed, right, and I said, don't laugh because to me,
Speaker 2: right now, everybody's going small. Everybody's looking at obsession and
Speaker 2: back rooms and saying, how can we get our seven
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars horror movie that makes three
Speaker 2: d million dollars? How can I go on YouTube and
Speaker 2: Reddit and find the next back rooms?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: If everybody's gonna do that. If I'm Warner Brothers, I
Speaker 2: zig where everybody else zags, and I say, if everyone's
Speaker 2: gonna go small, we're gonna go big, and we're going
Speaker 2: to continue. Like with Sinners, which was a ninety million
Speaker 2: dollar horror movie, to invest roughly ninety one hundred million dollars,
Speaker 2: maybe you can do more if you have Tom Cruise
Speaker 2: right right, right and twenty five and do big epic
Speaker 2: horror that could make three hundred four hundred million worldwide.
Speaker 2: I think that would be super interesting. But the fact
Speaker 2: like that that was part of the mandate. You guys
Speaker 2: should subscribe to newsletter. Read all the mandates. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: so many more coming and there's so much information in them,
Speaker 2: and I find it just really educational and instructional, and
Speaker 2: so the big thing. So this wasn't in the document,
Speaker 2: but this I did reporting on on my own.
Speaker 1: Okay, the Star Trek, Yes, the.
Speaker 2: New Star Trek movie, yeah, I'm told is in the
Speaker 2: vein of Training Day.
Speaker 1: Wow. What a Star Trek movie in the vein of
Speaker 1: Training Day.
Speaker 2: So when you think about it, it's a lot like Lanterns, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: rizzled veteran and then your new guy who's kind of
Speaker 2: wide eyed and he's gonna show him the ropes or whatever.
Speaker 2: Now with Lanterns, you know, I don't know that that's
Speaker 2: exactly what you're gonna get. That is what I heard
Speaker 2: was sort of the pitch for this Star Trek that
Speaker 2: it's like basically someone's first day in space. Wow wow,
Speaker 2: And that it's all new characters, none of the legacy characters,
Speaker 2: not like someone's gonna be recast as Kirk or Spock
Speaker 2: or any of that. Brand new story to get people
Speaker 2: excited in the universe again, in the world and all
Speaker 2: the possibilities and all that without having to you know,
Speaker 2: be a sleeve to canon or whatever the.
Speaker 1: Hell right, right, And is the guy going to be
Speaker 1: corrupt like Denzel Washington's corrupt or Is it more a
Speaker 1: matter of like a grizzly veteran teaching the young kid
Speaker 1: the road.
Speaker 2: I don't that. I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 2: there will be that kind of a twist that would
Speaker 2: be interesting. Agreed, yes, but I do think that you
Speaker 2: have to do something different. You can't just trot out
Speaker 2: here's Kirk and Spock and Bones and a Hura and
Speaker 2: we're just gonna beat them.
Speaker 1: And eh.
Speaker 2: I just I think that there's so many directions you
Speaker 2: can go in when you're up there in space and
Speaker 2: with this franchise, like, let's do something new and exciting
Speaker 2: and original.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't this be the Tarantino movie if he was to
Speaker 1: come back and do Star Trek. Wouldn't this He's not
Speaker 1: coming back to Star Treks. I'm just saying I don't
Speaker 1: think it'll be Listen, First of all, I don't buy
Speaker 1: his bullshit that this next film is going to be
Speaker 1: the last one. I think that's bullshit. But like, this
Speaker 1: could be interesting if he was to get back, involve
Speaker 1: a Star Trek and do this film, do interview saying
Speaker 1: I'm not done, I want to do this. This sounds exciting.
Speaker 1: It's not my last film. This could be fun. This
Speaker 1: would get people excited.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, Onuce in Tarantino taking a ship and my
Speaker 2: toilet would get people excited.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, not me, but okay.
Speaker 2: I'm.
Speaker 1: The wall.
Speaker 2: No, I do not want to see him directing a
Speaker 2: fucking Star Trek. Goldstein and Daily, I think are the
Speaker 2: perfect directors for this. I'm more of a medic, right,
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be King Kong and God shit on me.
Speaker 2: But that is what I heard was sort of the
Speaker 2: idea behind it was training day in space.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's awesome. I love that idea if they can
Speaker 1: pull it off, because Star Treks certainly needs an injection.
Speaker 1: We just had the trailer for a Strange World. Strange
Speaker 1: New World season four come out this week. Good trailer,
Speaker 1: but third season was kind of a mix, a gentle mess,
Speaker 1: so they need something positive. This could be exciting. I
Speaker 1: love this.
Speaker 2: How'd you cast a John because to me, I would
Speaker 2: go older guy, younger girl.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that could be fun. Yeah, I guess so
Speaker 1: that's that could be the way to go, femail lead
Speaker 1: instead of you know, the Crispine. But we're talking feature film, right,
Speaker 1: so that kind of opens you up to a whole
Speaker 1: other level of actor that you will have access to
Speaker 1: to pitch this too, you know.
Speaker 2: And so you're really good lead in the Star Trek movie.
Speaker 1: You ready to go ahead? Go ahead?
Speaker 2: Flow bow flow Bow flow po flor sigy up anything
Speaker 2: on the Agent. And I don't know who the older
Speaker 2: guy is. Maybe it's Brolin, you.
Speaker 1: Know, McConaughey. Why not McConaughey. I'm just what we're doing
Speaker 1: an Interstellar right now on the centopals on my pocket,
Speaker 1: and I'm like falling back in love with McConaughey as
Speaker 1: an actor. Him as the older grizzled captain could be interesting. Man,
Speaker 1: I've always loved him. Yeah, swaggering Kim in Florence Beauty.
Speaker 1: What's that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, not those are two like little I mean, the
Speaker 2: stars Wark thing is not in the document, but the
Speaker 2: time Cruise things, and there's a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of other stuff and so many more entries coming and
Speaker 2: just really interesting business stuff that, believe me, they do
Speaker 2: not want out there. Which is a subscribe and read it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: definitely definitely a true Yesterday, John, So what I walk
Speaker 2: paramount through everything? I'm gonna tell them, yes, I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I literally I'm reading them the document no surprises, and
Speaker 2: then like an hour before I was gonna pose last night,
Speaker 2: they're like they call him. They're like, just so you know,
Speaker 2: Jeff Probes is a out to post a video about
Speaker 2: an animated survier movie because that I told him I
Speaker 2: was gonna write about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like they're like, yeah, we've.
Speaker 2: Been holding this since, like you know, CinemaCon raffles. I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: then you should have fucking announced it. If I'm coming
Speaker 2: to you and laying all my cards on the table
Speaker 2: and saying I'm gonna report this and you're saying, well,
Speaker 2: we've been meaning to report this for the last two months.
Speaker 2: Here's you ran out of time.
Speaker 1: You missed. I'm sorry you're out of luck.
Speaker 2: So I'm completely not cool what they did last night
Speaker 2: because it makes me not want to show my hands again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you do not want to share what I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say if it just gets leaked to Variety for a
Speaker 2: six thirty break, uh with a coordinated Jeff pros in
Speaker 2: Probs Instagram post, just nonsense.
Speaker 1: So I made it clear to mister Allison and his
Speaker 1: people that won't be happy, Okay, all right, I don't
Speaker 1: know if we want to make an enemy of Allison,
Speaker 1: but okay, we're gonna kiss and make up.
Speaker 2: You know. I'm sure I'm to get something very cool,
Speaker 2: uh for my troubles. But yeah, and believe me, it's me.
Speaker 2: Good season baby, Come Friday Monday. I got scoops out
Speaker 2: the wahs. These have nothing to do with the document.
Speaker 1: So wow, wow, there you go. Age, definitely subscribe to
Speaker 1: Insider dot com. Get all that information and be the
Speaker 1: cool one with all your friends. Put doling out the information.
Speaker 1: And just like Jeff said, like this is the thing
Speaker 1: that I pushed back on people all the time. Will
Speaker 1: come sometimes they come and text me or DM me
Speaker 1: like why do you why do you believe this stuff?
Speaker 1: Jeff does the work people like all these other people,
Speaker 1: they're not taking meetings with fucking agents. They're not on
Speaker 1: the phone with or having dinner with creatives and all
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. Jeff does that. So like, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: if you think I would attach myself to someone who
Speaker 1: is just like finding shit in the wind, your guys
Speaker 1: are out of your fucking minds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do find shit in the wind, not love running.
Speaker 2: You know, a rumor that is a little shaky a rumor, right,
Speaker 2: but yeah, let's listen. They're always couched and positioned the
Speaker 2: right way. Yeah, like yeah, yeah, it's so everyone's just
Speaker 2: so conspiratorial and like conspiracy minded out there. I took
Speaker 2: the world. I took a bit of a risk, and
Speaker 2: I'm glad I did because as of this week, I
Speaker 2: know it was it paid off, it was correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have someone who reached out to me is like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, Jeff's wrong, And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, well but yeah, we'll find out.
Speaker 1: We'll find out. Okay, let's get to the questions. Ben
Speaker 1: Davis says, Hey, any new Star Wars news? Thanks, guys. Well,
Speaker 1: Jeff just revealed some possible Star Wars news. But other
Speaker 1: than that, is there anything else you got? Jeff? You
Speaker 1: were saying, like the Star Wars television shows, but it's
Speaker 1: not really true.
Speaker 2: That's not news. They're not doing shows. Do I have
Speaker 2: any Star Wars stuff? No, it's been okay, it's been
Speaker 2: quiet on Star Wars.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they want it that way with all the
Speaker 1: madness going on with Mando and Grogu, So it's been
Speaker 1: a little quiet. Uh, is your Star Wars person saying
Speaker 1: that this all hullabaloo about this Mando and Grog situation.
Speaker 1: They all knew it wasn't gonna do that great, so
Speaker 1: they're not as worried about it. Is that what the
Speaker 1: energy is?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that everybody, Lucas Schulman said that
Speaker 2: building had that inclination.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody is like panicking.
Speaker 2: And like we're all going to lose our jobs and
Speaker 2: be replaced.
Speaker 1: I think it's just yeah, yeah, so all this chicken
Speaker 1: little stuff that was Wars.
Speaker 2: That's in the document, right, they want more stuff like Starfighters.
Speaker 2: So again I think that that's going to kick off
Speaker 2: the next yeah era Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Charman charmarv George says, I finally caught you guys live.
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you for the content.
Speaker 1: You guys are amazing. My favorite youtubet. Oh thanks, I
Speaker 1: love the picture. Yeahokud it looks dapper. Uh cartoon for
Speaker 1: what Jeff? What's Jeff's take on the Knicks win and
Speaker 1: the UFC event the Freedom two fifty?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Knicks wins were ridiculous. They were amazing, right, like, well,
Speaker 2: like what can be said? The fact that that's that's statistic.
Speaker 2: You could bet one hundred If you bet one hundred
Speaker 2: dollars when the Knicks were down in that first game
Speaker 2: or whatever, yeah, against the Hawks, and you just kept
Speaker 2: rolling it over and betting on the Knicks at their
Speaker 2: lowest point in each game, you would have gone from
Speaker 2: one hundred dollars, you would have made twenty five million dollars.
Speaker 1: WHOA, my god, that's insane.
Speaker 2: That's what you said, were paying four million dollars heading
Speaker 2: on five games. Uh, and in like you'll we'll never
Speaker 2: see anything like it.
Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, do I hate the next yes? Uh?
Speaker 2: New York was like behave like complete assholes in the
Speaker 2: wake of that win, right, I mean it was like
Speaker 2: cool to see some of like the camaraderie and like
Speaker 2: New York coming, but it was all like you know
Speaker 2: that poor cab driver.
Speaker 1: Did you see that? Yeah? I did, I did.
Speaker 2: I don't understand to just like destroy the city after
Speaker 2: like a great night, a great.
Speaker 1: It's weird, it's weird, it's it's well. I mean, a
Speaker 1: fan is short for fanatic, and a fanatic does not
Speaker 1: dealing the eight between violence and excitement. So you know, sadly,
Speaker 1: the truth.
Speaker 2: I had a great night though. I went to a
Speaker 2: house party that night. I wound up talking spending two
Speaker 2: hours talking with Dream of Walker.
Speaker 1: Do you know that is no who's Dream of Walker
Speaker 1: the star of Compliance? Okay, maybe I do know dream.
Speaker 2: Dream Yeah, yeah, like Dream with an a after it.
Speaker 2: She's great in that movie. It's funny. It was like
Speaker 2: the first thing she said to me because I can
Speaker 2: out a little bit once I realized that it was her.
Speaker 2: I'm a huge Compliance fan, and she's seen naked. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I guess I have. I guess I have seen you naked.
Speaker 2: But you're also a great actress.
Speaker 1: Like legitimately, the movie is amazing if you guys haven't seen,
Speaker 1: it's amazing, right Compliance? Right, the one about the girl
Speaker 1: who they call in based on the true story where
Speaker 1: they get her to like take all the clothes off
Speaker 1: because this guy is like, yeah, I'm manipulating her manager,
Speaker 1: right right right.
Speaker 2: It's like we remember that movie as like kind of
Speaker 2: now like the first time I remember seeing like Anne
Speaker 2: Dowd and Bill Camp we're like the best character actors now, right,
Speaker 2: you know, back like Dream and Walker was the start
Speaker 2: of that movie, and it's an movie.
Speaker 1: But I remember dream of from Jonn't Trust to Be
Speaker 1: an Apartment twenty three he and Kristin Ritter. I remember that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, girl, So I had a really good time
Speaker 2: watching the finals at that party and hanging out with her.
Speaker 2: Watch the UFC thing it looks, I mean, it's the
Speaker 2: Michelle Obama thing is just disgusting, just a stain on
Speaker 2: the on the White House.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and motherfucker trying to defend it yesterday it was
Speaker 1: even worse. You're the problem. You didn't know. I was joking,
Speaker 1: you're the problem. Fuck off your fucking CT candidate Robert
Speaker 1: Sanchez is the Daniel's new movie, Captain Planet. It was
Speaker 1: described as a superhero flick with global warming as the
Speaker 1: villain and kids as the main characters. I mean, Jeff,
Speaker 1: this is not off face, It's not off face. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2: It's I don't think it is Captain Planet.
Speaker 1: I mean melted as Captain Planet would be really interesting, bro.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like far off.
Speaker 2: But no, I don't think it's that because only because
Speaker 2: like I think it'sn't Leo producing Captain Planet. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: you haven't heard anything about Leo producing this movie. But
Speaker 2: you know if I it's like, nothing's happening with Captain Plan,
Speaker 2: I don't know when there will be, Like if I'm
Speaker 2: the Daniels, it's not it's it's fertile ground. It's a
Speaker 2: fertile territory, right, Like we're gonna do an environmental hero
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, sounds interesting, could be interesting. Fuzzy
Speaker 1: Bubble says, just a joke, But Jeff lounging out looks
Speaker 1: like he's waiting for Chris Hansen to show up in surprise. Yikes, yikes.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, Fuzzy likes to do that. Shit.
Speaker 2: Does that make me the perv?
Speaker 1: Or yeah, it makes you the perp? Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what he's trying to say. Nice. Meanwhile, Fuzzy Bubbles is
Speaker 1: watching us in a bathrobe in his underwear. Alex ten
Speaker 1: adpx Pie says, did you guys see the report that
Speaker 1: Tray's published yesterday about diversity and how we're dropping nearly
Speaker 1: fifty percent? So sad and depressing, all that work done
Speaker 1: just for it to be destroyed because of politics. Well no, no,
Speaker 1: let's clarify, not just because of politics, it's because people
Speaker 1: like you and I and everyone else didn't watch this stuff.
Speaker 1: And I said this from the beginning years ago. We
Speaker 1: can ask for inclusivity, we can ask for representation, but
Speaker 1: if our own communities aren't gonna fucking show up, and
Speaker 1: white allies are not going to show up, guess what,
Speaker 1: it's not going to financially make sense. Hollywood ain't going
Speaker 1: to cancel something that's diverse and making money. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're making fewer movies too in general, but where was everybody?
Speaker 1: It is?
Speaker 2: God Is right, But it is every bit as polished
Speaker 2: or as talented like a featured debut as Curry Barker
Speaker 2: or Kane Parsons. Quite frankly, it just got unlucky being
Speaker 2: released at the same time as those movies. Not that
Speaker 2: if those movies didn't hugely overperform, that is God Is
Speaker 2: was going to be some box office hit. It was
Speaker 2: never destined to be that. But it's a very very
Speaker 2: good movie. And hopefully someone will take a chance and
Speaker 2: and make Alicia Harris' second movie, because she really did
Speaker 2: just get she was a victim of timing.
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I'm not saying diversity isn't being
Speaker 1: pushed out. It absolutely is. They're all cow telling to
Speaker 1: Trump for fucking sure. But it wouldn't have happened if
Speaker 1: we weren't going to these if we had started going
Speaker 1: to these things in larger numbers, giving it to money,
Speaker 1: but we would have been voting, and with our dollars,
Speaker 1: they would have found it much harder to cancel this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff or to move off from this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. So, you know, everyone has to take responsibility
Speaker 1: for the situation. Hashtag prices Onny Taylor. Joy's character in
Speaker 1: Hunt for Gollum is Sarah. She's created specifically for the film.
Speaker 1: She's not from Token's original books. Very fun, all right,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what she does. Kind of like they
Speaker 1: added that and Angeline Lily situation in the Hobbit Media
Speaker 1: U racist picture was over there, like, make sure you
Speaker 1: tell them that I said, I don't care. Make sure
Speaker 1: they know that because I saw ray Gun and it
Speaker 1: was pretty good. Oh, Fincher was over there, like make
Speaker 1: sure you tell them that I said I don't care.
Speaker 1: Make sure they know that because I saw Reagun it
Speaker 1: was pretty good. That's what he's trying to say.
Speaker 2: Okay, sure, ray Gun is very good. I just can't
Speaker 2: tell me that more people are gonna go see that
Speaker 2: in Imax, then would go see Cliff Booths.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, Fuzzy Bubble says, I
Speaker 1: don't understand why Netflix is trying to buy a studio
Speaker 1: when they can create their own and make their money
Speaker 1: in Eaters. Well, I mean, all these people are, all
Speaker 1: these companies, Jeff, are picking up IP, picking up already
Speaker 1: ready made stuff. That's why they buy these studios for
Speaker 1: the content that's already being done. Right, Disney basically bought
Speaker 1: Fox for the IP. Yeah, yeah, that's what's going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Netflix would just be buying a studio for the IP.
Speaker 2: It's not like they're trying to get their hands like
Speaker 2: the lot or anything.
Speaker 1: Right, right, hashtag buses. Look at how revered the Imax
Speaker 1: seventy millimeter is for Nolan's Odyssey movie. That movie isn't
Speaker 1: selling out tickets because of the Odyssey is selling out
Speaker 1: because of Imax. Right, But it's also that's more in
Speaker 1: the vein of I think that's I think that's sports
Speaker 1: Jeff's point. That's more in the vein of the Cliff
Speaker 1: Booth movie than it is the right Gun movie for sure.
Speaker 1: But wait, I'm so conve like that movie's selling out
Speaker 1: because of Nolan, right, true, that's true. What well, seeing
Speaker 1: Nolan and Imax, that's what she's I think this is
Speaker 1: what hashtag pie is trying to say, that people want
Speaker 1: to see Nolan's films in Imax, which is why it's
Speaker 1: selling out, because they know he's a visual master, master filmmaker.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's not just like Imax is what's
Speaker 2: selling the tickets, because then that would imply that every
Speaker 2: single Imax screening.
Speaker 1: Is like sold out.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what you go in there, because people
Speaker 2: just want to see a large store. Man, that's not true.
Speaker 1: That's not true. Yeah, because I think they yanked what
Speaker 1: Mando and Grogu or Master's universe out of Imax Earlier,
Speaker 1: Evan says, Jeff any casting or plot tidbits you could
Speaker 1: share about ari Astra, escapegoat, saw Jordan post plot details
Speaker 1: today a world of real Sorry if it was been
Speaker 1: addressed already, we didn't get to that. So what do
Speaker 1: you know about this? Do you want to think about this?
Speaker 2: You know anything other than what I've read, which made
Speaker 2: it sound like a fucking offshoot of season two of Beef.
Speaker 1: You watch season two of Beef. You told me it's
Speaker 1: not good, So I didn't watch it. It's not good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They basically just took the subplot in that about the
Speaker 2: surgeon who accidentally kills somebody, oh oh, and then turn
Speaker 2: that into a revenge story.
Speaker 1: Okay, now I think Scarlett.
Speaker 2: Johansson is the surgeon. Somebody dies on the table. Whether
Speaker 2: it's her fault or not, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Right. Right, then that person's.
Speaker 2: Family, the wife, and you know whatever comes after her.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, what is this? I don't know what this means,
Speaker 1: Evelyn says, timing my regal pass. When does Primetime go wide?
Speaker 2: I forget if there's a trail release date on that trailer.
Speaker 2: I think I thought it was going to be September.
Speaker 2: It might be October now, but I can't imagine be
Speaker 2: much beyond that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in April, line is again hout that prime Time
Speaker 1: should would be part of its initial bast Theatrical is
Speaker 1: a twenty four Yeah yeah yeah so yeah, uh fred
Speaker 1: Tskas young uns. Young uns are definitely aware of movie
Speaker 1: formats because my nieces and nephews always requests the three
Speaker 1: D version when it's available.
Speaker 2: That's three that's different.
Speaker 1: Formats of formats. Bro.
Speaker 2: No, no, they're not Okay, you're talking about we're talking
Speaker 2: about the size of a screen. Okay, and no one cares.
Speaker 2: The kids don't care whether the screen is seventy feet
Speaker 2: or sixty feet. Okay, three D. That's another dimension. It's
Speaker 2: not it's another dimension.
Speaker 1: Okay. Max loss is ari Astro scapegoat also known as
Speaker 1: Editing two point five. He should go a different dementia.
Speaker 2: That's why it's a completely different experience for them.
Speaker 1: So it's Imax versus regular. But okay, he should do
Speaker 1: horror films again, he's leaning into satire, but Scar Joe
Speaker 1: is a more box office friendly star. Astor has a
Speaker 1: small loyal fan base similar to Wes Anderson. Got it,
Speaker 1: thanks man, got it? Thanks Max. Also, are you gonna
Speaker 1: go to the Criterion Wes Anderson presentation they're doing there?
Speaker 1: They I got an email the other day. They're doing
Speaker 1: a whole thing with you that I get these emails. Hilarious. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, support, Thank you zekeon the Mongolou. You appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Right back, Warner Brother said, Okay, we've hacked it down
Speaker 1: to eighty seven minutes. I think we got the final cut. Okay,
Speaker 1: now you can talk about the movie, talking about Supergirl.
Speaker 1: It's it's down to I think one hundred and seven minutes, right,
Speaker 1: and now we're forty seven. I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's not that much.
Speaker 2: I love Let's go to this poisonous plant that I
Speaker 2: missed the point of the ari Aster film. The characters
Speaker 2: are based on the Paul Brothers and the Kirks and
Speaker 2: Erica Kirk. That's a great way to sell it. But
Speaker 2: they're just characters. They're just two brothers. We could say, oh,
Speaker 2: they're based on the Paul brothers. Why because they're two
Speaker 2: twenty five year old guys to thirty year old fuck guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well the is it gonna work? Though? That's the
Speaker 1: thing at the end of the day, and is already
Speaker 1: Astra the one to do it. Their names are Kirk
Speaker 1: and Paul. They're just uh, fuzzy Bubble says Rotten to men.
Speaker 1: This is the joke that Collider became. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: see Jermaine going after Collidier earlier this week, kind of
Speaker 1: calling them out for their click baity headlines. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: want to say.
Speaker 2: That's the whole internet. I mean, I love Rosty, that's
Speaker 2: the fucking game. He's got to play now.
Speaker 1: Right, But is it for you know, you know me,
Speaker 1: I'll be the first one to jump in the pool
Speaker 1: to stop on Frosty. But I think it's more val
Speaker 1: Net doing this kind of stuff that's there.
Speaker 2: They have to support this whole staff, which means they
Speaker 2: need clicks, which means they need to present information a
Speaker 2: certain way. It's some of the headlines I've seen on Clyder.
Speaker 2: You've never seen a headline and over backwards, harder to
Speaker 2: justify itself. Uh, this is what this is where we
Speaker 2: are in in internet era, which is why you gotta
Speaker 2: stop reading getting your news from these websites, yes, and
Speaker 2: go straight to the source like myself. Who is the
Speaker 2: best thing that Colyder has ever seen other than Perry
Speaker 2: Oh darey?
Speaker 1: Fuck face, I'm in the room, Maglider got rid of
Speaker 1: gall production year. What can we expect the trailer? When
Speaker 1: can we expect the trailer for the Great Beyond? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Trying to say we can't get it. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna get a trailer probably never. They put in
Speaker 1: a box and bury it.
Speaker 2: I think you'll see it around the super Girl probably
Speaker 2: Supergirl or.
Speaker 1: End of Oak Street at the latest. Oh yeah, probably Supergirl.
Speaker 1: Mister Pickler, I think movie studis should start planning their
Speaker 1: dates better. Like if he Man was placed in January
Speaker 1: through March, I think it would have made some money.
Speaker 1: In this goes for Supergirl. I am nervous on where
Speaker 1: it's placed instead of moving it back again.
Speaker 2: This movie got screwed too. You can't know that Backroom's
Speaker 2: gonna make eighty million dollars a week before you come out,
Speaker 2: right right, you know it, and maybe you should have
Speaker 2: known it right right, But when you dated that movie,
Speaker 2: you probably didn't know it.
Speaker 1: And that's okay. Yeah, and you're stuck with it, like yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes there was And these people do a lot of research.
Speaker 1: I mean they will just go, you know what, let's
Speaker 1: just put it here. They do a lot of research
Speaker 1: of when they're going to put these movies out. They
Speaker 1: don't always get it right, and Unforcenly, some movies suffer
Speaker 1: for that. But that's no one's one hundred percent. Nothing's
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Hashtag pies, Wow, thank you, hashtag. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it very kind. All kinds of rumors for the
Speaker 1: mcux men keep coming. There are people saying Patrick Wilson
Speaker 1: is in toxicolity, professor x or Magneto, Josh Hartnet for
Speaker 1: mister senator or Henry Guirich, Sidney Sweetey fra Amma Frost.
Speaker 1: Thoughts on all of these My head spits these people.
Speaker 2: Who are these people who are saying I actually can
Speaker 2: see Patrick Wilson as professor.
Speaker 1: I agreed, did a yeah, yeah, yeah, see that very
Speaker 1: much so.
Speaker 2: Josh Hartnet is mister sinister. This feels like an Internet
Speaker 2: a figment of the Internet's imagination.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Henry Guyrich.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. That is that X
Speaker 1: men villain, I have no Yeah he is he is. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sydney sweet for Emma Frost seems a little too easy.
Speaker 1: And you neither. You need a really good actress to
Speaker 1: play Amma Frost. No offense to Sydney.
Speaker 2: But Meryl Streep to play Meryll Fucking what the fuck
Speaker 2: are you talking about?
Speaker 1: First of all, I didn't say Meryl Street. I said
Speaker 1: a really good actress it is. It doesn't go with
Speaker 1: Sidney Sweety and then Meryl Streep. That's me. That's the
Speaker 1: Frost we need. Hollywood. Look, I know you want to
Speaker 1: sleep with her, but that doesn't mean there aren't other
Speaker 1: good actresses out there who could play this role that
Speaker 1: are not Meryl Streep or Sidney Sweeney. Maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit better than Sydney, but lower than Merrill. And I'm
Speaker 1: just saying there's a better either better act We had
Speaker 1: January Jones last time, and that was not a good performance.
Speaker 1: When Edward says, I'm not a fan of race swapping characters, however,
Speaker 1: two Faced isn't a big character who cares. Conversely, I'm
Speaker 1: against a black double O seven. There are other double oh's.
Speaker 1: We would have liked the black double OH six, a
Speaker 1: female double three, et cetera. Create something new. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I would. I would push back way in the
Speaker 1: two Face isn't a big character. I do think two
Speaker 1: Face is a big character, but he's already been race swapped,
Speaker 1: you know, race swapped with Billy D Williams, So I
Speaker 1: don't think it's that big of a deal. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, and I hear you on Double O seven.
Speaker 1: I hear you on Double O seven. But it's not
Speaker 1: like there aren't black British people who could play this character.
Speaker 1: So I think that who could be born in Scotland
Speaker 1: and have all the background that James Bond had and
Speaker 1: could play it, you know, so I don't think it's
Speaker 1: that big of a deal. Jeff Any thoughts on this.
Speaker 2: I think it's ridiculous. Not a fan of race swamping characters.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think that we can have a
Speaker 2: black two face. In fact, I think it'd be more
Speaker 2: interesting than a white two face against a black double
Speaker 2: O seven. I'm not against a black double seven. I'm
Speaker 2: against a black batman.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I could see that Batman, but that's really like the
Speaker 2: only character I'm like. Yeah, cartoon before a black Batman.
Speaker 1: Thoughts on RoboCop show with James wand director. We talked
Speaker 1: about that earlier cartoon forty nine. H put the time
Speaker 1: code down there. You go back and and watch that
Speaker 1: section of the show. Black Batman. Huh what who would
Speaker 1: be a good black batman? This is a great question.
Speaker 1: Hold on, this is a good question. Hold on a second.
Speaker 1: All right, I gotta look at the roster.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Let me bring up my website of all the black guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta you gotta shake your you gotta,
Speaker 1: you know, shake the tree a little bit, uh and
Speaker 1: see what's what's around here? I mean, do you turn
Speaker 1: your nose at Daniel co Oh, yeah, we talk about
Speaker 1: him coming back. Do you turn your nose at that possibility?
Speaker 1: You say that's not possible? No, I like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't mind that. I don't think Boyega Oh yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, abdua ma Tea in the second as Batman
Speaker 1: as Bruce Wayne ben Affleck style Bruce Wayne. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see that. I would love that. Fuck me,
Speaker 1: I would love that. Yeah, that's my choice. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, what's next? What's next? One? Okay? All right?
Speaker 1: Uh baia, Michael says some to the newsletter, Snyder, don't
Speaker 1: let me down. There you go, We'll see Wayne Ever
Speaker 1: says DC has the rights to Milestone Comics, a slew
Speaker 1: black superheroes and villains created by black creators, or any
Speaker 1: of these characters in development with James Gunn for film
Speaker 1: or streaming. I might say, I would imagine no at
Speaker 1: this point, I would be very surprised. Maybe there's been feelers,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Jeff, I don't think he would.
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't know what Milestone comics are.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of, like you have a single character
Speaker 2: static shock static shock Okay, yeah, I just thought he
Speaker 2: was a DC character.
Speaker 1: Uh maybe they try to get static Shock in something.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Yeah yeah, yeah, well, I mean
Speaker 1: Milestone is under DC, so that's kind of why it
Speaker 1: would be a possibility of static Shock to be a
Speaker 1: part of this thing. Yeah. You got hardware, Icon, Blood Syndicate,
Speaker 1: and uh, Milestone, so there's possibilities there.
Speaker 2: For sure, static shock would be the only one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. C. C. Black says B and D have a
Speaker 1: Brand New Day had the highest pre sales in five years,
Speaker 1: which is the fourth most of all time. Two billion
Speaker 1: for Spider Man, four billion total for Doomsday and a
Speaker 1: Brand New Day.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's that's fair to you know. If
Speaker 2: if Brand New Day did one seven and Dooms they
Speaker 2: did two three, that's doable.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if I see Spider Man
Speaker 1: doing two billion. Yeah, certain, he ain't close. Yeah, it'll
Speaker 1: get close, yankes eighty four days is Jackass? Five is
Speaker 1: the last Jackass film? But is it the end of
Speaker 1: the franchise? Could there be a new TV show with
Speaker 1: the younger cast? I don't know why you get rid
Speaker 1: of it, right, Jeff? Yeah, I think that there should be.
Speaker 2: I mean, Knoxville kind of is the Jackass brand. If
Speaker 2: you could get him back as like the MC, like
Speaker 2: a master of ceremonies host of the show, that would
Speaker 2: be great. He doesn't need to be out there doing
Speaker 2: stunts or anything. He'd just be the host. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I would love to see the next generation continue to
Speaker 2: watch poopies doing crazy shit. I just think that the
Speaker 2: format lends itself. It has a certain appeal, like it's
Speaker 2: just like America's funniest own videos, right, we want to
Speaker 2: see guys get hitting the nuts and do stupid shit
Speaker 2: to each other.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, Reggie pronounces, I think Punisher is a brand
Speaker 1: new day because John Barthol is a bigger name to
Speaker 1: the public than Charlie Cox. Daredevil and Punisher are equal
Speaker 1: names in the comics, and Daredevil is one of Spidey's
Speaker 1: best friends. Well, Reggie, there's no how can I say this,
Speaker 1: There's no possibility, There's no reason to believe Daredevil isn't
Speaker 1: in this movie. They're going He's going to prison the
Speaker 1: hands in this movie. So they're just showing Bernhal only
Speaker 1: because they want to save Daredevil for the movie. I
Speaker 1: think Jeah exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Burnenthal is a bigger name he's more marketable,
Speaker 2: so yeah, put him in the campaign and h I
Speaker 2: ha Daredevil for the people who paid to see him exactly.
Speaker 1: Oh yankses appreciate the scoops chants John burn Back on
Speaker 1: X Man is huge. Yeah, I talked about that earlier.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. Joseph Clapps says, do you think video games
Speaker 1: will like Call of Duty? Warhammer, got a war on TV?
Speaker 1: Will be popular like the Fallout TV show, or more
Speaker 1: like how the new Mortal Kombat played. You guys are awesome.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Joseph. Jeff thoughts on this.
Speaker 2: I actually do think that they will be popular.
Speaker 1: I could see. I don't know, I mean follow Out.
Speaker 1: They just did such a good job with the marketing.
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I guess it sort of depends on like
Speaker 2: it's God of War gonna be the next Fallout or
Speaker 2: the next Rings of Power.
Speaker 1: It's a good question.
Speaker 2: Warhammer, I think, will be more successful, right. I say
Speaker 2: this again just based on reactions.
Speaker 1: To my tweets over the years.
Speaker 2: Guys, Okay, when I drop a scoop, If I dropped
Speaker 2: a Warhammer scoop and I dropped a God of War
Speaker 2: scoop as a reporter, I'm expecting the Warhammer scoop to
Speaker 2: be a lot bigger, right, So.
Speaker 1: I'm just going off of that, and I think Call
Speaker 1: of Duty will be hugely successful. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Buzzy
Speaker 1: Bumble says Damn. Chris answers a shout up with me.
Speaker 1: They're just kidding. I'm always willing to make fun of
Speaker 1: myself as well. That's good. It's a good healthy attitude.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to these super chick our stream
Speaker 1: lives as well. Shit, where are these at? Where they go?
Speaker 1: Come on? All right, here we go? All right, let's see.
Speaker 1: All right, fantastic? Was I about Mike show my support
Speaker 1: of this early third they show question any news from
Speaker 1: Amazon MGM on James Bond? Thanks, and I'll be watching
Speaker 1: the show. Sorry, what any news on James Bond from
Speaker 1: Amazon MGM? Yes? Or no? No? No? No news? Okay?
Speaker 1: Is there anything in your right ups to the studios
Speaker 1: that might hint at James Bond or anything people to look.
Speaker 2: Out for maybe hope you'll have to subscribe. So again,
Speaker 2: we've done, we've been doing studios. I haven't touched Amazon, Apple, Netflix.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff that'll be coming that'll be
Speaker 2: coming next week.
Speaker 1: Okay. BK twenty three says you guys are the best.
Speaker 1: Keep it up. Please rank my five favorite comedies of
Speaker 1: all time National Lampion's Vacation, Big Lebowski, Dumb and Dubble,
Speaker 1: Ferris Bueller's Day Off, and Raising Arizona. That's a murderer's book.
Speaker 1: You lear number one for me? Okay? Then probably Dumb
Speaker 1: and Dumber.
Speaker 2: Okay, what are the other then Raising Arizona?
Speaker 1: Okay, what are the other two?
Speaker 2: Vacation Lebowski, I'll go to Lebowski over Raising Arizona, and
Speaker 2: I'll put Vacation last.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, I might agree. I think
Speaker 1: it's faires for me, Raising Arizona, Lebowski Vacation, the Dumb
Speaker 1: and Dumber. I'm not a big dumb and dumber guy.
Speaker 1: I know people love it, but I'm not my jam.
Speaker 1: I grew up with the people wrongly like dumb, dumb
Speaker 1: and dumb.
Speaker 2: You're too old for dombin dumber. Ayeat, that was tense?
Speaker 1: Yeah true. Carlton Banks, Hello, Jeff, sir, can you provide
Speaker 1: an information if Reeves will get a part three for Batman?
Speaker 1: If yes, does this mean the Poison Ivy show you
Speaker 1: mentioned last week? In your newsletter is set in Reeves's universe. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not getting into the who's in what universe?
Speaker 2: The thinnest whisper, the fucking strand half a strand of hair,
Speaker 2: that is the poison ivy rumor.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's good, not nothing. I can feel it
Speaker 1: between my fingers right right, right, This is half a
Speaker 1: strand of air.
Speaker 2: That is what I'm getting. What was the first part
Speaker 2: of the question whether there'll be part three? I imagine
Speaker 2: that this is a trilogy in his head and that
Speaker 2: you know, do I think he'll get to do It
Speaker 2: depends on his personal life.
Speaker 1: I think this movie is going to be new so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and the changeover, and then I think they'll put three
Speaker 1: in motion much quicker than they put two. I think
Speaker 1: Gunn wants to get done with this trilogy so you
Speaker 1: can get his Batman into the universe. That's mine.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Michael Green says, Hi, guys, what is your opinion on
Speaker 1: Champainne January sixth movie? Sports Wise? Can Dolan make his
Speaker 1: team go to the White House? Who are you rooting
Speaker 1: for in the World Cup? Job? Well, we talked about
Speaker 1: the champainn janitors this movie already. That's I'll put the
Speaker 1: time code there so you can go back and listen
Speaker 1: to that. That yeah, Dolan. I mean the rumors were
Speaker 1: coming out saying the Knicks we're not going to go,
Speaker 1: but then Dolan said they are going. I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's been a change to that the parade today.
Speaker 1: I don't know if people said anything. Anything you want
Speaker 1: to add to that, Jeff, anything you want to say
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: I imagine that there's it's a collective bargaining thing, like, oh,
Speaker 2: are these guys employees of him year round? And can
Speaker 2: he tell him them where to be and at what
Speaker 2: time in the middle of the summer or does the
Speaker 2: CBA prevent that, you know, because I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 2: can't imagine he can he can force anybody to go
Speaker 2: to the White House if they don't want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't buy that they're all going.
Speaker 1: I just don't fucking buy that. Jalen hurstedn't fucking So
Speaker 1: who are you rooting for the World Cup? John, I'm
Speaker 1: rooting for United States, obviously, but I'm also rooting for
Speaker 1: England because I've always loved England and I watched the
Speaker 1: Premier League football, but France is also one of my
Speaker 1: favorite choices, and then Spain on the outside of Argentina.
Speaker 1: Those are my top five teams I'm rooting for right now.
Speaker 1: You at the Scotts did in Boston. Yeah, they took
Speaker 1: all the beer. Fucking beer. I pitched a show to
Speaker 1: some of my friends who are big Cheers fans that
Speaker 1: we have it. We're on a big thread talking about
Speaker 1: and I said they should. It's a shame you can't
Speaker 1: do a special Cheers episode where Norm can't find a
Speaker 1: beer in Boston because the Scotts have drank all the
Speaker 1: beer in Boston. That'd be a hilarious fucking episode of Cheers.
Speaker 2: Now let me know when the Scott's smoke all the
Speaker 2: weed in Boston, then we'll start freaking out.
Speaker 1: Jacob mckenzis is old John and Jeff. Since Jim is
Speaker 1: returning to the Gritch, Oh Jim, your personal friend, Jim.
Speaker 1: What are the chances that WB is looking to do
Speaker 1: a sequel for the Mask since Jim said he wants
Speaker 1: to do it. I mean, one film at a time, man,
Speaker 1: you know, let's see how this plays out. What do
Speaker 1: you think, Jeff?
Speaker 2: No, if you did a mask, you would just put
Speaker 2: somebody else in the mask. Yeah, I don't think that
Speaker 2: would need to be James Jim James Carrey. I don't
Speaker 2: think I would need to be Jim Carrey. But the
Speaker 2: Gringe does?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Agree? Agree? Uh yeah, what what I mean? Glenn
Speaker 1: Glenn Powell? Your obsession with him is just he's got
Speaker 1: the comedy.
Speaker 2: I could see, he's got the charism.
Speaker 1: All right, Now, are you contractually obligated to mention his
Speaker 1: name once every episode?
Speaker 2: I'm going to send him the invoice now every episode.
Speaker 1: It Sydney Mike Laire says Jeff, since you hate Ron Tomatoes,
Speaker 1: what is an alternative the average film filmgoer should look
Speaker 1: to for film reviews.
Speaker 2: Meta critic or the in Snyder dot blogspot dot com.
Speaker 1: But he's not a critic, folks, He's not a critic.
Speaker 1: But he writes reviews that you can read.
Speaker 2: Okay, Hello, Uh it's a list. It's a list with
Speaker 2: a star rating attached. That's all it is.
Speaker 1: Pie Tip says, So, I guess the new movie musical
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise wanted to make with Christopher McCory is dead.
Speaker 1: Oh well, Cruise will be amazing in a horror film
Speaker 1: that might be his next Oscar win if the Awards
Speaker 1: contender he has coming out this year doesn't pan out.
Speaker 1: I think he's referencing Digger there. So I didn't know
Speaker 1: he was doing a movie musical with Christopher Well. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna do anything anytime soon, uh, Jeff.
Speaker 1: I think he would be amazing in a horror film.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen him. He's good. Interview with the vampire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: would he be the hero? No? I like him to
Speaker 1: be the villain. I think he has to be the villain.
Speaker 1: And here's what you do. You buy what.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's misery with an only Fans star, okay, and
Speaker 2: you make Tom Cruise Cathy Bates and he takes hostage
Speaker 2: and OnlyFans girl and it's called only fan Ooh.
Speaker 1: That is good. That is good. But I have to
Speaker 1: update your references here because OnlyFans is apparently trying to
Speaker 1: be toppled by a new site called Fansley, because the
Speaker 1: owner of only fans died. This is a report that
Speaker 1: I read from DHR this morning, so you might have
Speaker 1: to adjusted to Fansley. And then maybe it's just the title,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. We'll see I like what you said,
Speaker 1: though I like your Uh let's see here. If you
Speaker 1: more of these, Jeff, we'll get on out of here.
Speaker 1: And hey, guys, sizanvalanch Vigilanti comes out soon. You guys
Speaker 1: gonna review it. We might need Snyder to fly back
Speaker 1: to Germany with his boxingves, but this time we want
Speaker 1: to knock out Jeff train Hard. I'm in it.
Speaker 2: I'm one of the serbian sex graphickers.
Speaker 1: That army she did not look sixteen to me. What
Speaker 1: do you mean? Yeah, there you go, that's good. She
Speaker 1: was thirty two. He was to look at his face,
Speaker 1: you think sixteen? Come on, that's a raging bull reference.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Max losses any update on Jordan Peele's next Oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, that Army Hammer article was a fucking joke.
Speaker 1: What a fucking joke in THR Max good piece? Please?
Speaker 1: Yeah for a PRP. Sure? Any update on Jordan Peele's
Speaker 1: next film, any movement on this project or casting or
Speaker 1: a finished script.
Speaker 2: No, shouldn't just know is he's still in the business.
Speaker 1: Jesus Jasco says, missed my previous comments. Spielberg has mentioned
Speaker 1: his instant horror. Would it be a reunion with Cruise? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I mean there was a challenge himself. I don't know
Speaker 1: necessarily that's the case. Oh boy, there it is serbian
Speaker 1: sex trafficker right there. Supergirl see backs and Supergirl social
Speaker 1: reviews are not great. Oh I haven't seen those. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: I'll have to take a look at those. Cartoon forty
Speaker 1: nine says ranked these movie years ninety seven, two thousand
Speaker 1: and one. That's too long, too's that's too.
Speaker 5: Extensive, bro, two thousand and seven, okay, ninety seven, sure,
Speaker 5: twenty nineteen, Yeah, one, there you go.
Speaker 1: It's just in the Jamaica fans just smoked all the
Speaker 1: weed in Denver. Oh whoa, that's whoa whoa. Hey hey
Speaker 1: now hey now, not all Jamaicans smoke weed. Bro, bamma,
Speaker 1: Michael's is nothing. Not that. I'm a newsletter, sup. What's
Speaker 1: the word on Anton Corbin's a talent for murder? That's all. No,
Speaker 1: I have heard.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything about it. You know, for the
Speaker 2: last like six years, I've thought this movie was called Switzerland.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just changed the.
Speaker 2: Title, and I have to like get on board retreat
Speaker 2: my brain.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything about it totally. I tiped pie tip,
Speaker 1: says my pronouns are they them? Actually, I'm non byinary.
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that, John and Jeff,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for an I remember. I think
Speaker 1: that's poodie pie. I think because pie tipped is what
Speaker 1: they are here. Let me check. Hold on real quick.
Speaker 1: I think it's wait, what is it? The pie one?
Speaker 1: This one? Yes? Hashtag pie? Sorry, hashtag pie.
Speaker 2: I think so there, Okay, I remember that.
Speaker 1: I will as well. Yes, thank you for the update,
Speaker 1: Andrew Sanchez. John and Jeff was wondering if you guys
Speaker 1: know how scripts in Hollywood work? No, no idea. Does
Speaker 1: a studio pay a writer to write a Star Wars script?
Speaker 1: Or does a writer on his own write a script
Speaker 1: then sell it to the studio? Always curious about it. Well,
Speaker 1: both of those things are possible, but you rarely write
Speaker 1: a script that gets bought up by a franchise to
Speaker 1: be an installment in their franchise. They usually commission someone, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly. They have their own plans. So the
Speaker 2: idea that you're just going to walk in off the
Speaker 2: street with exactly what they're looking for, you know, is
Speaker 2: slim slim to none. I would say, you never know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: stranger things have happened. In this business. But yeah, especially
Speaker 2: on the big franchises, they're going to ask you.
Speaker 1: It's not the other way, right, Yeah, so yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: Take it away. Thank you all so much. Yes, absolutely
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Speaker 1: your thoughts real quick? Anything? Sure, seventy seventy There you go,
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