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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Applied Save America. I'm John Favrau, I'm John

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<v Speaker 1>Love It Tommy Utur. On today's show, we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the war with Iran, which claimed more American lives over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend and wounded dozens, which the Pentagon is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hide. We'll also talk about Ice being back in

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines after killing people in Texas and Maine. Stalk

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<v Speaker 1>about how the administration is responding and what we know

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<v Speaker 1>about how Trump's deportation agenda is playing with voters, Latino

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<v Speaker 1>voters in particular. We also have a bunch of news

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<v Speaker 1>from the world of Democratic primary campaigns. Former Maine Senate

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<v Speaker 1>President Troy Jackson is all but certain to be the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic nominee to take on Susan Collins in Maine. There's

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<v Speaker 1>more chaos in the Wisconsin governor's race, and AOC and

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie rallied for Abdul l Said in Michigan as his

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<v Speaker 1>primary against Haley Stevens heats up. But let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>some big news from the weekend. Spain's one tozer win

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<v Speaker 1>over Argentina in the World Cup final in the Meadowlands,

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<v Speaker 1>capping off an incredible tournament. No one is sadder about

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<v Speaker 1>it ending than Donald Trump. Wasn't about to let her

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<v Speaker 1>return to full on war with Iran stop him from

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<v Speaker 1>inserting himself into the closing ceremony.

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<v Speaker 3>President of the United States on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Is now so they can out of the can edit him.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Australian broadcaster at the end there, do you guys see

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<v Speaker 1>the caption of the picture in the Guardian now where

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<v Speaker 1>Infantino is with Trump and it's just the two of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and the caption is Giohnny. Infantino carefully explains to Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump that he is not part of the Spanish national team.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about right though.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the energy of accidentally realizing you're in the money

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<v Speaker 3>shot of a beach wedding, you know, like that, that

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<v Speaker 3>is what it reminded me of, Like they're about to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. Get the fuck out of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the team that the players were doing

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump dance and therefore really appreciating his involvement because

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<v Speaker 1>Trump did this to one of them and looking confused,

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<v Speaker 1>he just was like, say, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Milk a cow back to you. Like my guess is

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<v Speaker 2>they're just happy because they won the World Cup and

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<v Speaker 2>this is the best day of their life. That would

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<v Speaker 2>be my guess as to why they're happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Like for sure, but if a monkey did a gesture

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<v Speaker 3>to me at the zoo, I'd do it back. It

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be a show of support for his politics.

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<v Speaker 1>I might not throw my poo back at him.

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<v Speaker 2>But right it's like, yeah, it's like it's cool to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the game. I'd go if I could go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cool to present the trophy, but like, get out

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<v Speaker 2>of the way, dude. And you also did this at

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<v Speaker 2>the FIFA World Cup final in like twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>and like you can see Infantino trying to get him

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<v Speaker 2>to leave the stage and he.

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<v Speaker 1>Just won't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>He just basks in the glory of the cheering, like

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<v Speaker 2>he genuinely believes it's for him. I would feel like

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<v Speaker 2>imposter syndrome and run off there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he also believes he's wanted there. Like like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Donald Trump. Everybody loves when I'm part of their stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd feel imposter syndrome. If I was the president of

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<v Speaker 1>United States and the US one right, pould still say

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<v Speaker 1>something and be like extra proud, but I wouldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>in the fucking picture.

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<v Speaker 2>And especially with Spain, like the NATO sum had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago, he said, quote, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with Spain. They're hopeless bad people. He's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna call them bad people because they like didn't support

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<v Speaker 2>the war with Iran and didn't want us to use

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<v Speaker 2>their basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the USA today did a piece on

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump curse and they calling it the Trump curse.

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't know of all about all of these,

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<v Speaker 1>but so Trump said before the World Cup final, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pick a side, but he said it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>bet against Messiah. Argentina lose. Trump intervenes to get the

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<v Speaker 1>red card reversed. US loses to Belgium. Trump shows up

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<v Speaker 1>at the NBA Finals. It's the only game the Knicks lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty five, Trump goes to the Washington Commander's Game.

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<v Speaker 1>They lose to the Lions forty four to twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>That same year, he goes to the Ryder Cup, the

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<v Speaker 1>US loses. They're calling it the Trump curse.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny. The other thing about that Commander's game

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<v Speaker 2>is so he goes to the Commander's game, the Commanders

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<v Speaker 2>get stomped by the Lions, and then at that same game,

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<v Speaker 2>Alliance receiver name I'm and Ross Saint Brown did the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump dance, and then the Lions lose five of eight

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<v Speaker 2>games and missed the playoffs. It's even better.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's like basically there's there's three possibilities. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>One is that it's luck. The other is that he

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<v Speaker 3>brings a terrible energy everywhere he goes, right that he

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<v Speaker 3>and that his that's documented, right for sure, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>and that like corrupts anyone who's seen to be rooting

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<v Speaker 3>for You can't help with someone playing knowing that Trump

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<v Speaker 3>is on your side, allowed to infect you with the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of negativity and failure that surrounds him. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>think it's worth considering the third possibility, which is much

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<v Speaker 3>like Odysseus discovering the Cyclops on his way home due

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<v Speaker 3>to his failure to observe like morality and the conflict

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<v Speaker 3>in Troy, Trump is being punished everywhere he goes.

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<v Speaker 1>We all catching stray.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that well that that's take it up with zeus,

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<v Speaker 3>my friend men hard.

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<v Speaker 1>We are the ones being sacrificed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying it's a the punishment is it's not clean.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna tell you my favorite Trump sports story from over

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend is there's a golfer named Bryce and d Chambeau.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys go across this get a melt down?

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<v Speaker 2>At the Open Championship. You got a penalty for like

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<v Speaker 2>just stepping in tall grass that would have gotten the

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<v Speaker 2>way of his swing, and he got a two stroke penalty.

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<v Speaker 2>So it throws a hissy He deserved, He totally deserved.

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<v Speaker 2>He deserves. He throws a hissy fit, and he sucks

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<v Speaker 2>he's annoying anyway. He throws his hissy fit. He threatens

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<v Speaker 2>to not play the next day, basically quit the tournament

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<v Speaker 2>and take his ball and go home. He takes all

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<v Speaker 2>these rules officials, makes them visit the site, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he goes back. In the midst of it. He threatens

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<v Speaker 2>to call Trump and tattle on the mean rules officials

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't give him as way.

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<v Speaker 3>He also shut down the whole tournament too, right, they

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<v Speaker 3>all had to wait with the words, and they all

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<v Speaker 3>had to wait for him to be done with his

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<v Speaker 3>his uh uh fit, and even the other players who

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<v Speaker 3>are watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Were like that, come on, man, yeah, I mean this

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<v Speaker 1>is what Trump has created. You know. It's like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows if they're friends with Trump or they suck up

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<v Speaker 1>to Trump, they can just tattle and get what they want,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least try to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's calling the manager, right, I want a table over.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I know Trump, but sir, you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a reservation. I know the owner.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the German broadcast of the World Cup final. So

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<v Speaker 2>they cut to Infantino and Trump in the box. They

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<v Speaker 2>show them getting presented the trophy, and the announcers go, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a violation of all the rules. Those two were

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<v Speaker 2>made for each other, fascinated by power and by themselves too.

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<v Speaker 1>Good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>HiT's good stuff, tough, tough to hear from Germans.

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<v Speaker 2>The cool like the cool part of the story, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That sort of suggests the Spanish team would not like

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's politics. As one of the players, a guy named

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<v Speaker 2>Nico Williams, his mom and dad walked two thousand miles

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<v Speaker 2>from Ghana to Spain, she was pregnant with his older

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<v Speaker 2>brother at the time. Like across the Sahara Desert, Barefoot

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<v Speaker 2>managed to get into this tiny bit of Spanish territory

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<v Speaker 2>to become citizens, and then he's playing on the national team.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably why he wouldn't like Trump's immigration.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wouldn't like his politics. He wouldn't be possible with

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's politics. So unfortunately, Trump trying to make the World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup about Trump did steal the spotlight from the tournament's

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<v Speaker 1>real hero. Let's play it.

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<v Speaker 5>We put on the largest sporting event in the history

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<v Speaker 5>of the world, and everybody in winning pief in the

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<v Speaker 5>White House looks at the the FBI, to our inner

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<v Speaker 5>agency partners, the DHS, the state locals, to everybody to

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<v Speaker 5>figure out how to get six and a half million

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<v Speaker 5>people into the US and thenso these games without a

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<v Speaker 5>single major security incident. We have lived up to that

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<v Speaker 5>measure because you guys are put in the time. It's truly,

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<v Speaker 5>truly incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>We just can't say enough about the preparation and the

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<v Speaker 1>execution has been flawless. He's in every shot. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>of this was gonna like, you know, thinking like all

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<v Speaker 1>the law enforcement officials who pulled this off. It's like, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine. Every single shot of that video is Cash Betel.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine if we had a crook at All hands to

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate a year of making great content, and through it,

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<v Speaker 3>we played a montage of just our headshots known.

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<v Speaker 2>To be surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta laugh leaning with the chip, I gotta say what

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<v Speaker 2>my So, I didn't watch that video before so we

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<v Speaker 2>could see it live. My reaction to that video is,

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<v Speaker 2>who is this for? You know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>who's getting jacked up to watch? Cash Btel? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>for Donald Trump? Because he wants he wearing a suit,

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<v Speaker 2>not like the weird thin hoodie T shirt thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's probably for Trump. It's also he's

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<v Speaker 1>just in super defensive mode now, Cash Betel, because he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks everyone's not fair, right. But it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you think I'm drunk, and you think I fucked this up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I tweet in the middle of investigations just because

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<v Speaker 3>But that requires are you? But that that requires people

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<v Speaker 3>Not enough likes in faves for that foiled plot.

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<v Speaker 2>Cash Mittel has been working hard on trying to arrest

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if they'll bring that up to Trump any

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<v Speaker 1>of the reporters in the White House Correspondence Association when

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<v Speaker 1>It's a night where we're putting politics aside and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you're snooping on our report. My mom's yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I learned that. I learned that. I learned

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<v Speaker 3>that from a magician. Yeah I really did. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like we asked him, he'll know, you should just you

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<v Speaker 1>Mentalistic anyway, enough of that, Trump, who uh who just

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<v Speaker 1>last month told reporters he was skipping his son's wedding

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<v Speaker 1>because of quote a called Iran did not feel the

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<v Speaker 1>to the White House, Iran is no longer much of

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<v Speaker 3>They have been literally obliterated.

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<v Speaker 6>Never in the history of warfare has an enemy suffered

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<v Speaker 7>Iran has no air defenses, Iran has no air force,

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<v Speaker 7>Iran has no navy. Operation Epic Fury was a historic

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<v Speaker 7>and overwhelming victory on the battlefield.

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<v Speaker 1>The United States has all the cards. The straits are

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<v Speaker 1>now opened. The Iranian military is now destroyed.

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<v Speaker 3>We've won. Let me tell it, We've won. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you never like to say too early. You won.

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<v Speaker 2>We won the bet in the first hour. It was over. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently someone forgot to tell the Iranians because they've been

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<v Speaker 1>attacking US forces all over the Middle East for the

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<v Speaker 1>last nine days straight. They've killed at least three Americans

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<v Speaker 1>and likely a fourth that that soldier is still officially

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<v Speaker 1>injured dozens of American troops and damaged helicopters, news that

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<v Speaker 1>the Pentagon has just decided not to report, according to

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Times, and if you're wondering how it's

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<v Speaker 1>possible that Iran can still pull off these kinds of attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not alone, here's Fox News' Maria Barbarromo.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't understand how it's possible that Iran has the

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<v Speaker 4>capabilities to fight this way and continue to try to

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<v Speaker 4>lash out at Gulf countries and US military bases because

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<v Speaker 4>the US has obliterated Iran's military. And the President continues

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<v Speaker 4>to reiterate.

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<v Speaker 1>That I'm reading these talking points and for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not true.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the idea of her hold on a second.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean just the camera follows her out down the

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<v Speaker 3>stairs to another room with the whiteboard, and she starts

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<v Speaker 3>doing the math on the whiteboard, trying to like figure

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<v Speaker 3>out how the thing, and it's like, I don't, this doesn't,

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<v Speaker 3>this isn't. I don't think they're I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 3>telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>The president keeps read. The President would not iterate, let

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<v Speaker 1>alone reiterate if something's not true like this. He would

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<v Speaker 1>never say that maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>I just haven't been asking my questions loud enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump doesn't have a good answer, or really any answer

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<v Speaker 1>to Maria Berdromo's question. He threatened revenge on truth social

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<v Speaker 1>and sent commonounce more strikes in retaliation. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>all he said after the World's Cup when reporters asked

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<v Speaker 1>about the Americans who were killed.

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<v Speaker 6>We feel very badly, but you know, those great people,

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<v Speaker 6>those great patriots, are out there fighting that Iran cannot

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<v Speaker 6>have a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a far bigger job that we're doing.

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<v Speaker 6>We were doing a little job and stopping them from

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<v Speaker 6>having a certain capability. Now we're just ending it.

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<v Speaker 1>What Tommy, would you make of Trump's answer there just

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<v Speaker 1>a little confusing and just the general developments over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, clearly he's pulling from a deep well of empathy

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<v Speaker 2>at the top there. But on the bigger job part,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like there's I think there's two ways to interpret it.

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<v Speaker 2>One is like his factory setting is stuck on bullshit, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's like, now we're reopening the street, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>an even bigger message. He he just does hyperbolea with all things.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe it is the beginning of a bigger mission

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<v Speaker 2>that could include like a permanent escort mission with the Navy,

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<v Speaker 2>or taking territory on the coast to try to like

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<v Speaker 2>permanently claim the Straight or from moves. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we know. I don't think he knows yet probably what

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to do. My assumption has been that Trump

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<v Speaker 2>does not want to restart the war because he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to raise gas prices right now in advance of

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<v Speaker 2>the midterms. But the weekends events show how dangerous the

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<v Speaker 2>status quo is and that Iran is learning. The Journal

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<v Speaker 2>had a piece about how they've adapted their missiles to

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<v Speaker 2>move in the sort of like terminal part of the

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<v Speaker 2>flight where they're coming downs they can evade our air defenses.

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<v Speaker 2>And we still have tens of thousands of service members

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<v Speaker 2>in the Middle East that seem like they're not well

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<v Speaker 2>defended at all. And so like either way, like the reporting,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes it sound like he wants to not go

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<v Speaker 2>back to a full scale war. But as you noted,

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<v Speaker 2>Iran has been hitting targets all over the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Pentagon is putting out statements that they've hit

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<v Speaker 2>targets in Iran for the last ten nights in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not a war.

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<v Speaker 3>What is it we are read the war is restarted.

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<v Speaker 3>It's whether he whether Trump wants to go so far

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<v Speaker 3>as to acknowledge that the seas far that has failed

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<v Speaker 3>has failed.

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<v Speaker 1>Which he sort of has. I mean, he's like the

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<v Speaker 1>MoU is done, who cares? But then and they've told

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<v Speaker 1>Congress they're officially back in war.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the other distinction would be there would be

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<v Speaker 3>some explanation for what the strategy is behind what they're hitting,

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<v Speaker 3>other than as tit for tat degrading, Yeah, degrading capabilities generally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is I mean, Trump very well may not

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<v Speaker 1>want a return to full scale war for all the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons you outlined, But this is the problem with escalation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's unpredictable, and they strike, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>have to strike back, and then they strike back again,

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<v Speaker 1>and so suddenly the space for diplomacy becomes very very small,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just keep going after each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it also like Americans are dying. They're a group

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<v Speaker 3>of fans, like he's at the World Cup. Their group

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<v Speaker 3>of families are having the worst experience of their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Their lives are being ripped apart. Because Trump doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>the war to escalate because of his political reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just a blip.

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<v Speaker 3>He's very sorry, it's very bad. It's so glib, But

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<v Speaker 3>you know that if what he wanted to do is escalate,

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<v Speaker 3>right if Americans had been killed and he was aiming

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<v Speaker 3>to start the war, or he would just declare the

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<v Speaker 3>greatest violence against the United States, right, like the American

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<v Speaker 3>service member are in harm way being hurt by this

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<v Speaker 3>are purely just sort of pawns either to be like

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<v Speaker 3>either to downplay or lie about what's happening to them

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<v Speaker 3>if it doesn't suit your story about how much work

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<v Speaker 3>deestimating the military, or he can use it as an

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<v Speaker 1>com slash croocket. Think about Benghazi with Obama, think about

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<v Speaker 1>abby Gate with Biden in Afghanistan. Now we now have

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<v Speaker 1>more Americans killed than in either of those situations. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is one where the President United States and his

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<v Speaker 1>entire administration have said the Iran is obliterated. We have

436
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<v Speaker 1>one The mission is like not just mission accomplished, like oops,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a banner behind Bush. This is like every

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<v Speaker 1>day they're saying that their military is destroyed, decimated, the sky,

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<v Speaker 1>We control the skies, the strait is open. And also

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<v Speaker 1>for nothing the stated objectives, Like, they haven't done they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't achieved anything. They didn't destroy the regime, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get the they didn't make any progress on their nuclear program.

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<v Speaker 1>They they didn't destroy their ballistic missile programs, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>destroy the proxies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we're in a situation where it it

446
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<v Speaker 2>feels frustrating and unsatisfying because they don't care about getting

447
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<v Speaker 2>caught in those lies by the mainstream press the way

448
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<v Speaker 2>every other president in history has. But when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the polling, like this is the most popular war

450
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<v Speaker 2>in modern American history, and it's going to get worse

451
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<v Speaker 2>as gas price is ticked back up. And there's just

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<v Speaker 2>no endgame here, like the Iranians want to control the

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<v Speaker 2>straid of four moves. Trump can't let that happen. How

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<v Speaker 2>do you sort that out?

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<v Speaker 1>And you want to talk about the Houthies now and

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<v Speaker 1>what they announced that there's a blockade of Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the Houthis. So back at twenty fifteen, the

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<v Speaker 2>Saudi's launched this disastrous war on the Houthi rebels and Yemen.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundreds of thousands people died because of it, mostly

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<v Speaker 2>the famine. In twenty twenty two, they anounced the ceasefire

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<v Speaker 2>and then some peace talks. So Ben and I were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about last week this kind of fragile ceasefire kind

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<v Speaker 2>of erupted because the Saudis bombed the Sanat Airport. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they were trying to stop in Irgc plane from

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<v Speaker 2>landing back in Yemen that had been at the Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Leader's funeral in Yemen. We were kind of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's ominous, Like why are we kicking back up this conflict?

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<v Speaker 2>And so today on Monday, the Houthi's announced that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to embargo Saudi ships in the Red Sea via

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<v Speaker 2>the Babbel Mandeb Straight. So that's the choke point out

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<v Speaker 2>of the Red Sea to the east where a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of oil and gas flows. And so I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how this would work or how they would implement it,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you have the Straight ofh hor Moves closed

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<v Speaker 2>and then access to the Red Sea shut off, that

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<v Speaker 2>chokes off like another five percent of the world's oil

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<v Speaker 2>and reform petroleum products that pass through that straight. And

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<v Speaker 2>so the saudis. The way the Saudi has been getting

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<v Speaker 2>around the Straight of Horror Moves being shut is they

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<v Speaker 2>have a pipeline that goes west and south and they've

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<v Speaker 2>been pumping oil and gas out and getting it out

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<v Speaker 2>through the Red Sea. If they can no longer do that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a huge reduction supply. At the same time, you

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<v Speaker 2>have the Russians. Russian oil refinery capacity has been cut

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<v Speaker 2>in half to the Ukrainian strikes. You have all the

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<v Speaker 2>oil reserves depleted because of the war because we all

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<v Speaker 2>just spent it down to try to keep cost slow.

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<v Speaker 2>And then China had been limiting imports during the conflict.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they're ramping them back up, so you could really

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<v Speaker 2>see a serious supply shock in price increase, so one

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<v Speaker 2>to watch. I mean, maybe the Huthis are not actually

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go through with this, and they'll try to calm

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<v Speaker 2>things down with the Saudis. But this is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like the nightmare scenario in terms of energy price.

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<v Speaker 1>And oil went over ninety dollars a barrel briefly over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend. It's now in the eighties. But gas is

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<v Speaker 1>up to four dollars a gallon again. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>right at the beginning of this new phase of the war.

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<v Speaker 3>And the who Theis don't have to completely control this

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<v Speaker 3>waterway to create a bunch of fear and force ships

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<v Speaker 3>to either delay, go around, raise the cost of insurance,

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<v Speaker 3>what have you, right, And you know, having Iran and

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<v Speaker 3>Iranian proxies in charge of these two choke points through

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<v Speaker 3>a quarter or more of the world oil goes through

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<v Speaker 3>is really sort of once again showing how much more

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<v Speaker 3>powerful Iran has gotten because of this conflict. Even the

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<v Speaker 3>language the who The's used was just basically, well, this

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<v Speaker 3>is Trump is doing a blockade on a book blockade

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<v Speaker 3>in the Strait of hormones. We're going to do a

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<v Speaker 3>blockade on a blockade on this side too. That's just

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<v Speaker 3>how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Republican, the Republican Congress has done absolutely nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>rain him in on this. You have a few voted

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<v Speaker 1>for like a War Powers resolution, and that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And now how you know they have a week before

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<v Speaker 1>they all go on break until mid September, and the

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<v Speaker 1>House is trying to pass the NDAA. Also the supplemental

518
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<v Speaker 1>exer like billions and billions and billions of dollars more,

519
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<v Speaker 1>which is just absolutely fucking crazy nuts bills. So ICE

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<v Speaker 1>is back in the news for all the wrong reasons

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<v Speaker 1>after agent shot and killed one unarmed man in Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas and another in Bidterford, Maine. Both men were fathers

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<v Speaker 1>and husbands who had been living and working in America

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<v Speaker 1>for years, Both were driving at the time, and both

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<v Speaker 1>were victims of mistaken identity by ICE. After the shooting

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<v Speaker 1>in Maine, DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen ordered a temporary

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<v Speaker 1>pause on vehicle stops by ICE officers, a pause that

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<v Speaker 1>Susan Collins quickly took credit for, which was then overturned

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<v Speaker 1>by Trump in less than forty eight hours after an

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<v Speaker 1>intense right wing backlash to Mullen, despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>ICE has arrested a record number of people since Mullin's

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<v Speaker 1>been confirmed, even hitting Stephen Miller's two thousand arrests per

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<v Speaker 1>day quota a few times this month. This is, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to the one and seventy billion dollars that Susan

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<v Speaker 1>Collins and her fellow Republicans funneled to ICE, which seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be giving badges and guns to anyone who wants them.

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<v Speaker 1>The ex wife of the agent who killed the person

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<v Speaker 1>in Maine told the AP that because her ex husband

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<v Speaker 1>has a history of violent behavior and serious psychiatric issues,

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<v Speaker 1>when he told her ICE had hired him quote, she

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was having a mental health episode and didn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe him. Jesus, this is the guy who killed person

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<v Speaker 1>in Maine. And now, according to The New York Times,

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<v Speaker 1>federal agents recently received a written notice that the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>would quote no longer investigate confrontations with immigration agents, supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be handled now internally through DHS. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>report that's been denied by both the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>and the Department of Homeland Security. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>after Minnesota and Gnomes firing, we were all worried that

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<v Speaker 1>nothing would actually get better, it would just get quieter.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure enough, even Trump's approval and immigration has sort of

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<v Speaker 1>crept back up, though it's still slightly underwater. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you make of the administration response to the killings in Texas?

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<v Speaker 3>And it made so yeah that Homan was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be some kind of a step up from Bovino and

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<v Speaker 3>from Christinome. The fear was they would continue doing what

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<v Speaker 3>they were doing, but not as ostentatious. I do think

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<v Speaker 3>like the fact that they determined that these sieges upon

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<v Speaker 3>cities were counterproductive politically was a win that continued. But

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't mean they haven't been more competently and quietly aggressive,

561
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<v Speaker 3>and they have continued to put people like this out

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<v Speaker 3>into the field.

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<v Speaker 2>We already know.

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<v Speaker 3>They reduced the amount of time these people are trained,

565
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<v Speaker 3>they lowered their standards, they've been desperate to recruit. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is a direct result not just what the Trump

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<v Speaker 3>administration is doing, but what Congress has done to fund

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<v Speaker 3>and give them the resources to rapidly hire people who

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<v Speaker 3>have no business using a gun, let alone using a

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<v Speaker 3>gun as law enforcement as part of the federal government.

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<v Speaker 3>You read about this guy's background before he's in Ice.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just a fucking troubled guy, like a terrible

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<v Speaker 3>head injury. He was doing door dash, he was doing correction,

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<v Speaker 3>like he just was all.

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<v Speaker 1>Violent towards his own kids. I thought that the blowback

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<v Speaker 1>to Mullen was very telling too on the right because

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of goes to the point that like, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not running the department. Really, this is just like this

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<v Speaker 1>is Miller's policies, and he tries to do something on

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<v Speaker 1>his own depause and then Trump immediately just backs off. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if Mullen got a call from Susan Collins directly,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're senate colleagues and they probably know each other.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean this ice officer and me, and

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<v Speaker 2>he shot and killed a man in front of his

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<v Speaker 2>three year old daughter. You know, it's fucking evil, and

586
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<v Speaker 2>it shows that the policy has not changed much. But

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<v Speaker 2>the pr strategy has. I mean Gnome and Bovino, like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, like they were being pressured to make three

589
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<v Speaker 2>thousand arrest a day, and they would to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have border patrol invade a city like an

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<v Speaker 2>army and occupy it in the flashiest way possible. That

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<v Speaker 2>included flying Blackhawk helicopters over Chicago or having like little

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<v Speaker 2>social media people filming all the people stuff they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing and then releasing it because they were proud of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mullin is still trying to hit two thousand arrests

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<v Speaker 2>a day, but the arrests are spread out all over

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<v Speaker 2>the country, and he's less thirsty for press attention than

598
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<v Speaker 2>Nome was, although probably doesn't want it. Low bar Ye

599
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<v Speaker 2>DHS is still lying about all these incidents. They're de

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<v Speaker 2>facto covering up for all these officers, but they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>it in a slightly less gratuitous way. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota where they're saying Rene Good and Alex Pretti were

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<v Speaker 2>domestic terrorists or that you know, Preddie was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>massacre police, right, that was the intention to massacre police

605
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<v Speaker 2>was like the line afterwards. And so Trump, though, is

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<v Speaker 2>still making it clear that he doesn't care if it

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<v Speaker 2>isn't people are killed. He wants the dangerous practices like

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<v Speaker 2>the vehicle stop arrest to continue if it means more deportations.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is like they've definitely put a less flashy

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<v Speaker 2>shine on their policies. But it is still very much

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<v Speaker 2>the same dangerous, abusive practice.

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<v Speaker 3>And that you can't give in to the libs, right

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<v Speaker 3>like that, you can't. If something terrible happens and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a call from your enemies to be restraint, to show

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<v Speaker 3>any kind of restraint, you can't give into that because

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<v Speaker 3>that is what led us here, right like, that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to prove a really tough Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The Posts had a good story on this about the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the blowback to Mullen, and you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>came from all the usual sort of right wing media

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<v Speaker 1>online spaces, but also the Heritage Foundation. And there's people

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<v Speaker 1>in the Heritage Foundation making the point that Tommy did,

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<v Speaker 1>which is they're all saying, like, oh, Colin's probably called

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<v Speaker 1>Mullen because there's Senate colleagues. And this is the problem

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<v Speaker 1>with having someone at DAHS from the Senate, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to please all those people who are too moderate

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to just put you know, foot on

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<v Speaker 1>the gas for the deportation agenda, and it doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't like, we're just going to keep going. And

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<v Speaker 1>like Stephen Miller doesn't care if it's unpopular, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>care if people get killed. He doesn't care if what

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<v Speaker 1>the detention center conditions are or he doesn't care what.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look his immigran Trump's of immigration ratings. We're in

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<v Speaker 3>the drop precipitously around the time of the killings in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 3>baked in assumption. I think on their part is people

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<v Speaker 3>know that even if he goes too far, he is

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<v Speaker 1>Dan talked with Carlos for this week Polar Coaster, which

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<v Speaker 1>That said, Carlos and Ecki's also found that around two

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<v Speaker 1>thirds of Latinos think Trump has gone too far on

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<v Speaker 1>who are Latino who regret their vote, immigration overreach was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the top reasons cited. Would you guys make

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<v Speaker 1>of all that polling in terms of how Democrats should

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think the takeaways are Trump's approvals down,

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<v Speaker 2>We're so way behind where we were with Latino voters

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen, Carlos had a good message, which was

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<v Speaker 2>I think that sounds exactly right. But I do think

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<v Speaker 2>last month of an election. It's all GOOTV messaging, turnout messaging.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not persuasion messaging. It's not early enough. And I

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, get think on immigration specifically. I just think

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<v Speaker 3>in the polling. You know, Democrats I think really did

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I thought the polling was interesting in that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>So I pretend to be a dermatologist and I gave

841
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<v Speaker 3>him a sort of head to toe mole check and

842
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:39.639
<v Speaker 3>he's clear, so no moles and nothing else. So I

843
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<v Speaker 3>just I had to, you know, put on the statoscope,

844
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:44.440
<v Speaker 3>that whole thing, you know, he kept on his under

845
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a fucking maniac.

846
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Early thoughts on Troy Jackson, who's always been our favorite

847
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>in this race we always thought would.

848
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Be the no thoughts on Troy Jackson. I'm to spend

849
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.119
<v Speaker 2>a little more time look at it. I have thoughts

850
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:57.960
<v Speaker 2>on huge credits of the main Democratic Party for throwing

851
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:01.079
<v Speaker 2>together a process this quickly. That must be like if

852
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Jackson gets it, hopefully that will go a long way

853
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>towards bringing along the PLATINIR voters who are probably pretty

854
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.559
<v Speaker 2>pissed off and the volunteers who were left hanging when

855
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.800
<v Speaker 2>he withdrew. We're still in a tough spot. We see

856
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:13.679
<v Speaker 2>he's you know, the platter left us a mess that

857
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.400
<v Speaker 2>we're behind, a fundraising we're behind in name I d

858
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.400
<v Speaker 2>hopefully now this can become a referendum on Donald Trump

859
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:21.760
<v Speaker 2>and how voting for Susan Collins is a vote for

860
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:22.800
<v Speaker 2>the Donald Trump agenda.

861
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it seems like he's already moving towards that

862
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>talking all about Susan Collins, and it's what could have

863
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.320
<v Speaker 1>been a very contentious couple of weeks here.

864
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they figured it out.

865
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>They figured it out. Like credit to the main Democratic Party,

866
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Credit to all of Trey Jackson's challengers too, who like,

867
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:42.880
<v Speaker 1>instead of hanging into the convention of all dropped out

868
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and Orrell supporting him now, which is great. Just so

869
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>people know who Drey Jackson is. He so he was

870
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>state Senate president. He was re elected in last in

871
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two and one of the reddest reddest parts

872
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:57.119
<v Speaker 1>of Maine. I looked up there in the first district,

873
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:01.159
<v Speaker 1>the state Senate district registration there is thirty six percent Republican,

874
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:05.679
<v Speaker 1>nineteen percent Democrat, forty five percent no party preference. Okay,

875
00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:10.639
<v Speaker 1>so that is independent. That is an achievement winning that district.

876
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Internal polls, there's only been a few internal polls with

877
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.679
<v Speaker 1>him and Collins. They have him tied or slightly ahead.

878
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 1>So it's too early for that he's got pretty much

879
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:21.239
<v Speaker 1>all of Graham Platner's positions.

880
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't maybe well some of his older positions sort

881
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.239
<v Speaker 3>of just more recent political ones. I'd say probably, yes,

882
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:32.320
<v Speaker 3>political positions, political positions, maybe maybe not as maybe not

883
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.920
<v Speaker 3>quite as charismatic as as you know, he's.

884
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:39.280
<v Speaker 1>A little he's a little little gruffer. Yeah, What'll came

885
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>in third for governor and used to be very conservative

886
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:44.119
<v Speaker 1>on abortion and gay rights, and over the years is

887
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.159
<v Speaker 1>now now it gets like one hundred percent ratings from

888
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>abortion and gay rights groups. Right, so he sort of

889
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:49.440
<v Speaker 1>changed over time.

890
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:51.679
<v Speaker 2>I realized our process is not ideal. But in South

891
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Carolina Republicans are like, hey, Linday Graham, you're dead. What

892
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:56.920
<v Speaker 2>if your sister just sticks over? Hey that's weird.

893
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Hey we're in the market for Linda Graham in a wig.

894
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.440
<v Speaker 2>So weird just handing a senancey to Lindsay Graham's sister.

895
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there so there hasn't been a lot of

896
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.199
<v Speaker 1>like you didn't give us a process. Why did you

897
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.679
<v Speaker 1>give us just this guy? I think for Troy Jackson,

898
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:13.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's name I d right, Like people don't

899
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.559
<v Speaker 1>know I don't I think even people in Maine, right

900
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:17.559
<v Speaker 1>like you're the state Senate. Does anyone know the state

901
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Senate president doesn't even know that nobody. I don't even

902
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:21.679
<v Speaker 1>know who the how the legislature is here in an

903
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:23.519
<v Speaker 1>assembly is in California. Do you guys going to be

904
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:24.320
<v Speaker 1>very complicated.

905
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:27.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing pop quizzes today, just so folks. No,

906
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 2>it's not just that Lindsay Graham's sister is finishing out

907
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:34.239
<v Speaker 2>the seat. She's announcing she is going to run for it.

908
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:35.920
<v Speaker 3>I know, and I just want to be clear. We

909
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:40.320
<v Speaker 3>don't know. You know, maybe she has great and interest

910
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.960
<v Speaker 3>like she works with the blind. I don't know, got it,

911
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.239
<v Speaker 3>there's a chance. Let's just let's just be cool. We

912
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:48.320
<v Speaker 3>love We always thought Lindsay Graham's sister was a reasonable

913
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:50.079
<v Speaker 3>person who could have a conversation with Let's give her

914
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.840
<v Speaker 3>a chance before she could discover that she makes Lauren

915
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 3>Bilbert look like Hakeem Jeffries.

916
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, Nancy Mace has dropped out of that race. Won't

917
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>be running now. She continued to ship post. She literally

918
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:02.679
<v Speaker 1>said that that's great.

919
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:04.519
<v Speaker 3>She posted. Just when I thought I was out, they

920
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 3>pulled me back in from Godfather Part three. Never like

921
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:10.039
<v Speaker 3>the least requested person ever, being.

922
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Like, fine, I'll do it. They being yourself qulty backing

923
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:13.920
<v Speaker 2>the voices.

924
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Turns out Maine isn't the only speed bump on the

925
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.599
<v Speaker 1>road to a blue wave. The wi was constant gubernatorial

926
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:20.760
<v Speaker 1>primary just got a little jolt over the weekend when

927
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez ended her campaign after revealing serious

928
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>financial mismanagement by her campaign manager. She was one of

929
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:33.519
<v Speaker 1>the leading candidates in the polls. Her dropping outside off

930
00:43:33.519 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 1>a panic among the state's more moderate and establishment Democrats,

931
00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>who are worried that Francesca hung the dsay back to

932
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 1>candidate who's leading in the polls won't be able to

933
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>win in November. So, even though former Lieutenant governor and

934
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Senate candidate Mandela Barnes is still close to hang in

935
00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 1>the polls, Wisconsin Democrats convinced Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley,

936
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 1>who'd ended his own campaign a week earlier, to get

937
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>back in the race, and then Governor Tony Evers, who

938
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:04.119
<v Speaker 1>had been staying out of the primary, endorsed Crowley. Seems

939
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.039
<v Speaker 1>like they got everything under control up there in Wisconsin.

940
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:09.159
<v Speaker 3>Huh, I Like, I keyed into this because when I

941
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:14.360
<v Speaker 3>saw the Sarah Rodrigue's press conference video. Yeah, and I

942
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:16.239
<v Speaker 3>was like, watching this video and I really hadn't been

943
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:17.960
<v Speaker 3>paying close attention to this primary, to be honest. But

944
00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:20.000
<v Speaker 3>then I watched the video and just someone at the

945
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:22.280
<v Speaker 3>putt of being like, here's when I found out we

946
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.000
<v Speaker 3>were being robbed. Here's when I found out there was

947
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 3>not enough money here and there. Then I realized there

948
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:29.559
<v Speaker 3>was a problem over here, and I was like, oh boy.

949
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess it's good to get ahead of this,

950
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:32.719
<v Speaker 3>but I don't know how you can win a campaign

951
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.039
<v Speaker 3>for governor when you're just getting when your finances are

952
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:35.800
<v Speaker 3>so fucked.

953
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I still feel like I'm missing something. In the Sarah

954
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Rodriga story, the campaign manager double counted donations so they

955
00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:44.360
<v Speaker 2>had less money than expected. Then that same staff er

956
00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:46.239
<v Speaker 2>puts out a press release that's like we're doing a

957
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:49.599
<v Speaker 2>million dollar ad buy. The candidate is like, hey, where's

958
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.119
<v Speaker 2>our ads? I don't ever see them on TV. Turns

959
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>out the ad buy was fake because again they didn't

960
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:56.960
<v Speaker 2>have the money. They put out their filing and she

961
00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:00.599
<v Speaker 2>has like thirty five grand on hand. Yeah, so that's

962
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 2>obviously bad, But do you have to drop out for

963
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:06.840
<v Speaker 2>that well, Like, I mean, you couldn't have stuck it out.

964
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:08.360
<v Speaker 3>I just think that you're running to be the chief

965
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:09.320
<v Speaker 3>something else.

966
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I get the argument like an incompetent you can't manage

967
00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:13.840
<v Speaker 2>your own campaign, can't manage your own finances. But it's like,

968
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:15.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. The primary is August eleventh, Like I

969
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:16.960
<v Speaker 2>feel like there must be more we're gonna learn.

970
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 3>And by the way, like when I say Rob, I

971
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.920
<v Speaker 3>have no idea, it just sounded like someone at least

972
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:25.880
<v Speaker 3>insinuating that money was going right out the door illicitly.

973
00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, She's gone, man, bar memory be a los thing.

974
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:34.320
<v Speaker 1>This is an important race. Don't want a Republican as

975
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:36.320
<v Speaker 1>governor in Wisconsin in twenty twenty eight when there will

976
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:40.599
<v Speaker 1>be a presidential election to certify, and so really important

977
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 1>that we replace Tony Eves with the Democrat. I'm kind

978
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:50.079
<v Speaker 1>of confused why they didn't rally around Mandela Barnes. So

979
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:54.519
<v Speaker 1>Mandela Barnes, who we known Mandela for a while. He

980
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:58.320
<v Speaker 1>also ran in twenty twenty two for Senate. He came

981
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:02.800
<v Speaker 1>like twenty six votes shy of winning in a year

982
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>where it was a twenty twenty two many terms, it

983
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:08.840
<v Speaker 1>was a more Republican leaning year, and he's close to

984
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:12.079
<v Speaker 1>hang in all the polls. He's probably like ahead of

985
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Rodriguez in some polls. Several polls show him ahead of

986
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:22.039
<v Speaker 1>the Republican candidate, Representative Tom Tiffany, and Crowley, who I

987
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.519
<v Speaker 1>don't know much about David Crowley, but when he suspended

988
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:26.519
<v Speaker 1>his campaign, he never got more than five percent of

989
00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the vote, And I mean in any of the polls

990
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>he never hit beyond five percent, and so and then

991
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:35.519
<v Speaker 1>somehow Evers went out and endorsed him and not Barnes.

992
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:39.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand it either, other than he lost before

993
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 3>they could use that same planet book again. If he

994
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 3>lost to Ron Johnson, he's going to lose again. It's

995
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:44.840
<v Speaker 3>almost confusing.

996
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Like twenty percent of primary voters have already cast their ballots.

997
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:51.079
<v Speaker 1>It's almost impossible that David Crowley is going to win this.

998
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>What him getting back into the race may do is

999
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:56.079
<v Speaker 1>a sure that Hong is going to win.

1000
00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean all the whispering in those articles is

1001
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 2>they think Bendela Barne it's basically just as progressive as

1002
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Hong and therefore will have all the same problems. I

1003
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 2>think they're all kind of whispering about bad polling. I

1004
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:07.840
<v Speaker 2>have no idea if that's true. But that's when like

1005
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Politico reports on this and stuff. Yeah, the strategy is baffling.

1006
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like it's but it's it's so funny because

1007
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:17.639
<v Speaker 1>it's it's one thing to think Barnes is also too progressive,

1008
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>just like Hong, and so Crowley would be the most

1009
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.840
<v Speaker 1>electable candidate. Like I get bad argument is that I

1010
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>might not agree with it, but I get it as

1011
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:28.760
<v Speaker 1>a legitimate argument. But then saying, okay, so we'll put

1012
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:30.679
<v Speaker 1>him in the primary with two weeks left. He never

1013
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.199
<v Speaker 1>hit five percent, and somehow he'll vault ahead of the

1014
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:35.559
<v Speaker 1>other two candidates.

1015
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 2>They're just hoping that the Tony Evers endorsement will do it,

1016
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it seems.

1017
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 3>But also to be yeah, even with like there has

1018
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:43.800
<v Speaker 3>been a lot of great polling, but also the poets

1019
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 3>had them all pretty low too, so like maybe they're

1020
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:47.159
<v Speaker 3>hoping there's just a lot of people that have made

1021
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:49.559
<v Speaker 3>up their minds are getting late. Yeah. The other also

1022
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:51.320
<v Speaker 3>just to say, like Barnes was a lieutenant governor of

1023
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 3>the state. It's not like coming from nowhere, right, Like.

1024
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll just say this, like if Hong wins the primary

1025
00:47:56.519 --> 00:48:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and loses the general. It is not This is not

1026
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:03.119
<v Speaker 1>like let's blame DSA. This is the establishment decided to

1027
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:06.880
<v Speaker 1>put in someone else potentially split the vote with Barnes,

1028
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:09.119
<v Speaker 1>and that's where we ended up where we did.

1029
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:14.079
<v Speaker 2>After Sarah Rodriguez had to enter camp, circumsplame outcoming, I

1030
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:16.239
<v Speaker 2>think everyone Wisconsin was just like Jesus Christ, what do

1031
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:17.920
<v Speaker 2>we do right? Scrambling right?

1032
00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 1>But that's what But I'm saying that the Crowley thing

1033
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.079
<v Speaker 1>is the weird part. It's not like no one could

1034
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:23.840
<v Speaker 1>have seen the Sarah Rigaz think coming. But the Crowley

1035
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>thing is just a it's a weird thing to do.

1036
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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's end with Michigan, where there's a very

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00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:44.280
<v Speaker 1>chill congenial Senate primary between former Cricket host Abdul Lsaed,

1060
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.199
<v Speaker 1>who the three of us are supporting, and Congresswoman Haley Stevens,

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00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:49.079
<v Speaker 1>who were hoping to have on the show as soon

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00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.079
<v Speaker 1>as she can make it work. The polling is relatively

1063
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 1>sparse and a bit all over the place, In a

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00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:57.360
<v Speaker 1>race where the biggest issue dividing the candidates is Israel,

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00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Abdul wants to end all US eight to is. Stevens

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00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>does not, and has the support of APAC, who's spending

1067
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:06.119
<v Speaker 1>heavily in this race. Abdullah is also in favor of

1068
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 1>more progressive policies like abolishing ice and medicare for all,

1069
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>which is one reason he's been endorsed by AOC and

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie Sanders, who are in the state this weekend campaigning

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<v Speaker 1>with him. Here's a clip from one event.

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<v Speaker 3>They want us to think that these forces are too

1073
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<v Speaker 3>powerful for us to overcome, that this is just how

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00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:24.320
<v Speaker 3>things are.

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00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:28.760
<v Speaker 4>There's fifty million dollars in this race because they're expecting

1076
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:29.840
<v Speaker 4>a return.

1077
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:33.280
<v Speaker 1>It's an investment.

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<v Speaker 8>They've taken the calling to me dangerous. Now, I don't

1079
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:41.360
<v Speaker 8>know why you would call somebody who looks like me

1080
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:44.320
<v Speaker 8>with a name like mine dangerous.

1081
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:48.079
<v Speaker 9>If you're a corporation wanting to buy a politician with

1082
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:52.880
<v Speaker 9>their pack, I'm dangerous. If you're a pak and want

1083
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.199
<v Speaker 9>to send our money abroad, you damn well better believe

1084
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:55.880
<v Speaker 9>I'm dangerous.

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<v Speaker 8>If you're somebody who wants it's the government to work

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00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:05.480
<v Speaker 8>for you, I'm not dangerous. I might just be the

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00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:09.119
<v Speaker 8>one person running for US Senate who actually wants.

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<v Speaker 2>To serve you.

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00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Thoughts on one of the last and maybe most contentious

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00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Democratic primary of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hate that this has gotten jammed into

1092
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:20.960
<v Speaker 2>the Graham Platner discourse frame, at least on social media,

1093
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.400
<v Speaker 2>because like a Duel and Grand Platiner are absolutely nothing

1094
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:26.679
<v Speaker 2>alike in Anyone suggesting otherwise is trying to smear ab

1095
00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:29.519
<v Speaker 2>duel in a really disgusting way. And just clock that

1096
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:34.119
<v Speaker 2>when you read these tweets and judge them accordingly. Some

1097
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:35.960
<v Speaker 2>of the issues in the race are nationalized, Like there

1098
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:39.400
<v Speaker 2>is frustration at the establishment and Chuck Schumer for picking candidates.

1099
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:42.360
<v Speaker 2>That's part of the race. There's gaza, there's apex spending.

1100
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:44.039
<v Speaker 2>But if you watch the debates or watch them on

1101
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.440
<v Speaker 2>the stump, it is very local. It's a lot of

1102
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:49.280
<v Speaker 2>auto industry talk. There's a lot of anger at shitty

1103
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:52.039
<v Speaker 2>utility companies. Everyone in the in the race made a

1104
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:55.400
<v Speaker 2>video about a bridge from Detroit to Canada that Trump

1105
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.239
<v Speaker 2>was shutting down. They're talking about healthcare premium. So look,

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00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm supporting a duel because I can say I'm a

1107
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 2>friend I think he's really smart. I think he's going

1108
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:05.000
<v Speaker 2>on the stump. He's taken principled positions on stuff I

1109
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:07.039
<v Speaker 2>really care about. I think you'd be a good senator.

1110
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:09.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like, it's no deeper than that. I'm not a

1111
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Hailey Stevens hater in any way, shape or form. If

1112
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:14.360
<v Speaker 2>she wins the primary, like I will wholeheartedly support her

1113
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:17.360
<v Speaker 2>no matter who wins. This is going to be a

1114
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:20.320
<v Speaker 2>really tough race. Like Mike Rogers is a good, strong

1115
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Republican opponent. We barely beat him last time. So I

1116
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:26.360
<v Speaker 2>think what's most important is whatever happens come August fifth,

1117
00:52:26.400 --> 00:52:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Like everybody's got to put down the little twitter knives,

1118
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:32.519
<v Speaker 2>stop nursing your little grudges, making this about some bigger thing,

1119
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:35.199
<v Speaker 2>some factional intra party thing, and let's come together and

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00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:36.440
<v Speaker 2>win this race. And we got to do a little

1121
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:38.239
<v Speaker 2>faster than people have been doing it up in Maine

1122
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:40.559
<v Speaker 2>because there's a lot of lingering bullshit happening.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's a debate about Medicare for all, which

1124
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 3>is largely a symbolic debate. Even if you support medicare

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00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:50.199
<v Speaker 3>for all, the next Democratic Congress, if we're so lucky

1126
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.719
<v Speaker 3>to have a Democratic Congress, we'll have Trump as president.

1127
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Like there's no hope of passing medicare for all, but

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00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:59.960
<v Speaker 3>it is a symbol of a willingness to like go bigger,

1129
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:03.239
<v Speaker 3>go against the establishment, be willing to say something that

1130
00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:06.159
<v Speaker 3>may not be as popular broadly but shows that you're

1131
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:11.239
<v Speaker 3>willing to fight. Now, you know what Aos says. They're like, oh,

1132
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:16.719
<v Speaker 3>they're they're they're they're buying, they're buying the sea. Like

1133
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:20.519
<v Speaker 3>it's pretty clear, Like Hailey Stevens has said she will

1134
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:24.000
<v Speaker 3>support military aid and aid to Israel abduable, not right.

1135
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:26.559
<v Speaker 3>They're investing to get behind a candidate who will support

1136
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:31.480
<v Speaker 3>continuing to give military aid to Israel. Other then but

1137
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:33.639
<v Speaker 3>like that is a symbol of what happens if either

1138
00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:36.159
<v Speaker 3>one of them is in the Senate and put the

1139
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:40.480
<v Speaker 3>like big kind of ideological distinctions between them a side.

1140
00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Hailey Stevens is a reliable Democratic vote. She doesn't have

1141
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:45.920
<v Speaker 3>a particularly strong, like ideological point of view. You go

1142
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:48.159
<v Speaker 3>to her website, it's a lot of nuts and bolts,

1143
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:52.159
<v Speaker 3>bring money home to Michigan policies. She supports a public option,

1144
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.880
<v Speaker 3>she supports reforming ice. She's just a reliable Democratic vote.

1145
00:53:55.960 --> 00:53:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Abdul is someone who will push on the party from

1146
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:01.159
<v Speaker 3>the left. That is what he would do in the Senate. Now,

1147
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 3>I think that's a good thing. I think it's good

1148
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:06.039
<v Speaker 3>to have like people that have a strong point of

1149
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:08.360
<v Speaker 3>view and want the Democratic Party to stand for something

1150
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:13.599
<v Speaker 3>clear right. But in the end, either way, like neither

1151
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:15.679
<v Speaker 3>one of them is going to be able to enact

1152
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:18.320
<v Speaker 3>any kind of specific agenda. It's a question of what

1153
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:20.760
<v Speaker 3>you want in a what do you believe a Democratic

1154
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Senate should look like, which why it becomes a proxy

1155
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:25.320
<v Speaker 3>between Bernie and Schumer and all the rest.

1156
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:28.519
<v Speaker 1>I do think with a Senate race, because you're there

1157
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:32.199
<v Speaker 1>for six years, Ideally this person is there for a

1158
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Democratic president and a Democratic Congress, and then hopefully the

1159
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:41.159
<v Speaker 1>next Democratic president does make a move to expand healthcare.

1160
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Who knows how far they'll be able to go, but

1161
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:46.320
<v Speaker 1>ideally and so you know, they will get to do

1162
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:50.000
<v Speaker 1>they will get to set the agenda hopefully in some ways.

1163
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:52.320
<v Speaker 1>But I think but to your point, I mean, this

1164
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:56.440
<v Speaker 1>always happens with primaries, right, which is because the candidates

1165
00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:02.239
<v Speaker 1>are generally similar on their policy platforms, you try to

1166
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:05.360
<v Speaker 1>find differences that then become magnified in the heat of

1167
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:07.079
<v Speaker 1>a race that then make it seem like it is

1168
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:12.039
<v Speaker 1>this Manichean struggle between good and evil for the supporters

1169
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:14.119
<v Speaker 1>on either side. And look, I think in this one,

1170
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:16.079
<v Speaker 1>you're right, Israel is a clear dividing line that is

1171
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:18.920
<v Speaker 1>where their pulse. I mean, she supports aid to Israel

1172
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:22.199
<v Speaker 1>with no conditions whatsoever, and he wants to cut it off.

1173
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.280
<v Speaker 1>And even some of the other races where Apec has played,

1174
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and I think the difference hasn't been so.

1175
00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Clear, or she's on the right edge of a dwindling

1176
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:33.599
<v Speaker 3>minority of Democrats who are taking that position. Even in

1177
00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:35.400
<v Speaker 3>the Senate, I mean, the majority of the vastarty of

1178
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Democratic senators are closer to a Gules position now than

1179
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:38.679
<v Speaker 3>they are to.

1180
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Hailey Stevens right. And so then the other thing you

1181
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.400
<v Speaker 1>would do is you'd make it about electability. And I

1182
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:46.880
<v Speaker 1>do think it's been hard to make this race about

1183
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:52.559
<v Speaker 1>electability grounded in a lot of firm data, because look

1184
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:54.760
<v Speaker 1>at the polls that we've had have been from not

1185
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:58.119
<v Speaker 1>really high quality polsters. There's been a lot of internal

1186
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:00.800
<v Speaker 1>polling from both sides. We don't have like a New

1187
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:02.920
<v Speaker 1>York Times Siena poll or a lot of really good

1188
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:04.880
<v Speaker 1>pulling and so and in the polling that we have,

1189
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:07.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the beginning of the race, it seemed

1190
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:11.920
<v Speaker 1>like Stevens was performed slightly better against Mike Rodgers than

1191
00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:14.119
<v Speaker 1>a duel. Now it seems like a duel has like

1192
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:16.679
<v Speaker 1>a point or two honor or they're tied. So it's

1193
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:19.599
<v Speaker 1>really hard to make an electability argument. So therefore now

1194
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:20.559
<v Speaker 1>you're just fighting over.

1195
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:24.920
<v Speaker 2>What they're really fighting about is like they're they're hand

1196
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:27.199
<v Speaker 2>waving at the policy ship, but they're like, his name's

1197
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Abdul alsiety. That is what is happening. It is I mean,

1198
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying Hayley Stevens specifically is saying that, but

1199
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:36.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Abdul's opponents are when they say electability,

1200
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:37.679
<v Speaker 2>that is what they mean.

1201
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:39.519
<v Speaker 1>And that is what has gotten a little ugly well

1202
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:42.800
<v Speaker 1>into your earlier point. And now they're doing the well,

1203
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:46.039
<v Speaker 1>he's got some of the same consultants, and so Graham

1204
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Platner wasn't vetted and we don't want another. And it's

1205
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:50.840
<v Speaker 1>like Abduel has been vetted because he ran for governor

1206
00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:52.800
<v Speaker 1>of Michigan and that's why his name idea is so

1207
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.159
<v Speaker 1>high in the first place. And he's been like, you know,

1208
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:56.280
<v Speaker 1>he's just he's.

1209
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 2>He's served in public office. Wasn't like plucked out of obscurity.

1210
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:02.280
<v Speaker 3>And the big controversy was about whether or not after

1211
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:05.000
<v Speaker 3>he got his mdphd he technically did a residency. It's like,

1212
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:07.119
<v Speaker 3>that's like it's very different than a Nazi tattoo and

1213
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:08.280
<v Speaker 3>a sexual assault ouvasion.

1214
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:11.360
<v Speaker 1>But it like both candidates, now I've seen them in

1215
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:13.519
<v Speaker 1>interviews be like, well, this race isn't really about Israel,

1216
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and everyone else wants to make it about Israel and Gaza,

1217
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:19.079
<v Speaker 1>but we want to make it about Michigan. But even there,

1218
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:21.719
<v Speaker 1>there's not a lot of like there's not a fight

1219
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:24.679
<v Speaker 1>about healthcare, like you're for Medicare for all and from

1220
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:26.679
<v Speaker 1>the public option, let's let's duke it out. You're for

1221
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:29.039
<v Speaker 1>abolishing ice, on for reforming ice, let's do it on that.

1222
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:32.920
<v Speaker 1>It's there's there's surprisingly little attacks from both of the supporters,

1223
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:35.679
<v Speaker 1>at least on the policy issues and more on it's.

1224
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:38.199
<v Speaker 2>More like it's more like money driven policy issues. It's

1225
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:40.800
<v Speaker 2>like you've taken all this money from corporations for eightpack

1226
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:43.280
<v Speaker 2>or others, therefore you're beholden to them. That is kind

1227
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:45.119
<v Speaker 2>of the proxy for a lot of the political fights

1228
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:47.079
<v Speaker 2>and then but for Haley, it's like there's a similarly

1229
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:50.000
<v Speaker 2>weird thing happening online with her, which is like a

1230
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:51.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of people are plucking up speeches where they think

1231
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:54.119
<v Speaker 2>she looks goofy and sharing them and then it turns

1232
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:55.880
<v Speaker 2>out maybe people like those speeches.

1233
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<v Speaker 1>We don't really know.

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00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Well, I I was into like there, Like there's moments

1235
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:01.599
<v Speaker 3>where she's kind of fee and like kind of she's

1236
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:03.559
<v Speaker 3>got we gotta letter rip, we got to stick it

1237
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:06.360
<v Speaker 3>to them, and like it's kind of sweet, and uh,

1238
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:10.280
<v Speaker 3>there's this kind of aesthetics where if someone who has

1239
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:12.960
<v Speaker 3>seen as centrist or pro Israel does something that is

1240
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:16.519
<v Speaker 3>slightly cringe that or having Malary mcmurrow too, when she

1241
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:19.239
<v Speaker 3>was in the kind of Elizabeth Warren roll to Abduel

1242
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:21.639
<v Speaker 3>and they were mad at her, like this is so embarrassing.

1243
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:24.000
<v Speaker 3>You're so embarrassing. It's cringe, Like this is the problem,

1244
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:25.679
<v Speaker 3>this is the problem. You don't understand real people because

1245
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:28.280
<v Speaker 3>you don't understand what broken brained online people think is

1246
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:33.760
<v Speaker 3>funny anymore. But if Abdul has made plenty of cringey

1247
00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:36.840
<v Speaker 3>content and but he's you know, he's good for the movement,

1248
00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:38.559
<v Speaker 3>and so those things aren't as bad. I was thinking

1249
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:41.039
<v Speaker 3>about when I'm like, Schumer farted on the Senate floor,

1250
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.360
<v Speaker 3>and I do think he did not make the most

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<v Speaker 3>of it. I think he should have done it at

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<v Speaker 3>about how we were having a gas crisis. He went

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<v Speaker 3>up to the man that Schumer used to be, the

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<v Speaker 3>guy at the gas station, and there was a moment

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<v Speaker 3>where he could have made news about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, it was just unblock on the straight upfore most

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<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Look not the only not the only waterway. They were

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<v Speaker 3>having trouble getting things through these days. That my age,

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<v Speaker 3>but so but but I know, but if like mom,

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<v Speaker 3>Donnie farted during press conference, there would be stories about how,

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00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:07.280
<v Speaker 3>like man, everybody's farting again.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so good at this. This is a master at

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<v Speaker 2>work generation.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why we need medicare for all, he'd say,

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<v Speaker 3>or something I don't know, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's a lot of it because of stick it

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<v Speaker 1>to him, there's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick it to him.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, it's like, Okay, you want

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<v Speaker 3>to be this sort of like hard scrabble kind of

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00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.519
<v Speaker 3>salt of the earth campaigner, but also your campaign is

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<v Speaker 3>propped up by tens of millions of dollars of outside money.

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<v Speaker 3>And John to your point, like one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 3>that debait is about that outside money and about Israel

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<v Speaker 3>is because she has an establishment figure, doesn't have like

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<v Speaker 3>a clear other than just bringing money home for vision,

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00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:47.480
<v Speaker 3>they'll auto bail it. Like, what's the policy place where

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<v Speaker 3>she feels so strongly she wants to pick a fight

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<v Speaker 3>with a.

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<v Speaker 1>Duel over Well, this is this is yes, And I

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<v Speaker 1>know this is naive of me, but like, as we

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<v Speaker 1>head into a presidential primary season, like my wish is

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<v Speaker 1>that the the factional war within the Democratic Party is

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<v Speaker 1>fought over different policy positions because there are plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>differences between the left and the center left. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes what the establishment center left, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to call them more modern Democrats does is they look

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<v Speaker 1>at the progressive movement and progressive candidates and they either

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<v Speaker 1>take umbrage or dismiss them or say or just like attack, attack, attack,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like try to you got to be for something, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to be excited about your candidates, and you

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<v Speaker 1>got to run candidates who are exciting and charismatic and

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01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:35.760
<v Speaker 1>have something that they really want to get downe but

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<v Speaker 1>what they default to. And you can kind of hear

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<v Speaker 1>this with and I'm not saying Steven's does this, but

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<v Speaker 1>some of her supporters it was like, but she works

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<v Speaker 1>so hard, and she's just she's got her head down

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<v Speaker 1>and she works hard. And that's like the thing for

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<v Speaker 1>all the establishment candidates is like they just their servant,

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<v Speaker 1>their public servants, and they're working hard. It's like, yeah,

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01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:51.960
<v Speaker 1>everyone's everyone in public life who's running for office is

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01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:53.159
<v Speaker 1>working hard and doing a lot of good.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's sort of a throwback, sort of a throwback campaign,

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01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:59.000
<v Speaker 2>like there was a not that long ago most campaigns

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01:00:59.039 --> 01:01:01.440
<v Speaker 2>were like I'm gonna liver for my state. I'm going

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01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:03.599
<v Speaker 2>to bring home the bacon, I'm gonna get earmarks and

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<v Speaker 2>pork barrel and just like build a fucking airport over here.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, if Susan Collins wins, that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's Haley like it sounds like that's the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of campion she's running now. Somewhere along the way I work,

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<v Speaker 2>we found this desire where we also want people to

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<v Speaker 2>be national figures and have national profiles and see value

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<v Speaker 2>in that too. There's a bit of a race here

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<v Speaker 2>on the on the the goofy content thing, Like Abdul

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<v Speaker 2>has put out videos that were so cringey that I

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<v Speaker 2>sent them to his consultants and I said, no more

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<v Speaker 2>of this.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet right, was he in a hat?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember which one it was, It might have

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01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:32.840
<v Speaker 2>been more than one, but like, he's put out a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of corny shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are people rightly pointing out that I

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01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:37.920
<v Speaker 2>think Haley is treated differently because she is a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of misogyny and sexism in the messaging

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see on Twitter about these videos. They're also just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of cringey videos at times, and like sometimes she's

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<v Speaker 2>a goofy messenger and sometimes he's a goofy fucking messenger,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not always loaded to say that too. Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's the other part of this, well, that this is

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<v Speaker 2>where like.

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<v Speaker 1>The attention economy has made people do crazy things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Like there's a whole range of issues that are

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01:01:58.400 --> 01:01:59.880
<v Speaker 3>just not really that much a part of the demo.

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<v Speaker 3>Activate education one of the most important issues where Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>have lost ground for the last ten years yep or

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<v Speaker 3>five years, early six years. And like I'll say something

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01:02:08.320 --> 01:02:10.280
<v Speaker 3>that would like this is one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 3>if rom runs for president, like, it will be good

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<v Speaker 3>because he will be the person that picks.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be good.

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<v Speaker 3>It will be it will be because send it he will,

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<v Speaker 3>for he will, he will. He will have that kind

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01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:29.679
<v Speaker 3>of old school democratic politics where he like he.

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<v Speaker 1>Starts now starring on.

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01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Gets back on survivor to fuck because he will force

1349
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:39.760
<v Speaker 3>debates about these questions on his road to not being

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01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:42.800
<v Speaker 3>the nominee and like on a broad range of issues.

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<v Speaker 3>That will like kind of like in the way that

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01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:48.079
<v Speaker 3>Hailey Stemens is not causing, not kind of forcing questions

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01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:50.360
<v Speaker 3>back over to a duel on policy questions. I think

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01:02:50.679 --> 01:02:53.079
<v Speaker 3>you need center left figures who do that because we

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01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:54.639
<v Speaker 3>need to have those big debates. That's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Haley's big attack on abdul and the debate was

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<v Speaker 2>like you haven't released your tax returns yet, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just wonder it was another kind of like it' felt

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<v Speaker 2>like an old school criticism of someone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it feels like he's attacking her on money, right,

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01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:08.960
<v Speaker 1>like you've got all this money down your rehap. So

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, I want to do money things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like lejgitimate. I'm just wondering if voters care.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't, don't. I don't know who. You'll find out

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. Speaking of Bernie, CNN reporter over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>that back in March, when he backed a challenger to

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<v Speaker 1>a Democratic House in company in North Carolina, Hakeem Jeffries

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01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:26.239
<v Speaker 1>called him and warned him against meddling in house primaries,

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<v Speaker 1>arguing that it's divisive and a drain on limited resources

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<v Speaker 1>that could go to beating Republicans. Another member who was

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<v Speaker 1>on the call said, Sanders quote seemed not to care

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, like it seems absolutely buy that.

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<v Speaker 3>The most Jolene phone call, like please please you could,

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01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:46.159
<v Speaker 3>I know you can take these districts. Please stop, please stop.

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<v Speaker 3>He's my man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like I get my hockeying. Jeffries would not want

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01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:55.000
<v Speaker 2>divisive primaries. I can't imagine any scenario where he thought

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01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Bernie Sanders would care. I can't. It's hard to imagine

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01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:00.199
<v Speaker 2>a conversation Bernie Sanders would care about less.

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<v Speaker 3>Other than the debate. The interview I had with him

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<v Speaker 3>where he tried to get out of it a few

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01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:13.440
<v Speaker 3>minutes early, where he did this this is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is another problem with like the establish

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01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:17.039
<v Speaker 1>from argument is it's the response is always like no, no, no,

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01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:19.519
<v Speaker 1>these primaries shouldn't happen, or these candidate like guess what

1386
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:21.639
<v Speaker 1>the candidates are going to run. People are going to

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01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:23.000
<v Speaker 1>sign up and they're going to run for office, and

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01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.920
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be from all political persuasions and doing

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01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:28.639
<v Speaker 1>the whole And Hillary started this in twenty sixteen with

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01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Bernie Right, it's like that they're not real Democrats and

1391
01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:34.519
<v Speaker 1>they're and they're not they don't respect the Democratic Party's institutions,

1392
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like you know who doesn't respect the Democratic Party's institution America.

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<v Speaker 3>Or actually and more specifically Democrats exactly.

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01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:43.719
<v Speaker 1>So it's like not the greatest argument to be like

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01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:46.239
<v Speaker 1>how dare you run? And how dare you upset our primaries?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like go beat them, beat them with better ideas,

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01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:51.360
<v Speaker 1>beat them by saying that like their ideas are bad

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01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:53.440
<v Speaker 1>or their or their ideas aren't going to resonate with

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01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:56.280
<v Speaker 1>most American people, Like there's plenty to go after. Before

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01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:57.599
<v Speaker 1>he was just being like don't run.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a you know, these are people trying to

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01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:03.880
<v Speaker 3>do a hostile takeover of a failing enterprise. You know,

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01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:06.039
<v Speaker 3>if you think they're not the right people to lead,

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01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:07.440
<v Speaker 3>you got to make a much better case to the

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01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:09.800
<v Speaker 3>shareholders because they're looking at your record and thinking, I'm

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01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:11.199
<v Speaker 3>gonna kind of take a shot on these people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll also look at the Republican Party. Did that

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01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:15.280
<v Speaker 1>work really well for them? For all the establishment figures

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01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.639
<v Speaker 1>in the Republican Party when they were like, no, Donald

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01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Trump can't be it right.

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<v Speaker 2>Good point. And also they're facing their own version of this,

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<v Speaker 2>Like in Arizona, Andy Biggs is probably going to be

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01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:28.559
<v Speaker 2>the Republican gubernatorial nominee. He's a lunatic in Iowa. My

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01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:31.920
<v Speaker 2>buddy Rob sand is up against this complete unknown dude

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01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:35.480
<v Speaker 2>whose primary work background was like working for the Koch

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01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:38.239
<v Speaker 2>brothers for a decade. He doesn't even live in the state.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in Iowa half the time. He's in Kansas, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy, that's like, Yeah, when I was a kid, I

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01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:43.800
<v Speaker 3>kill people?

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<v Speaker 1>What of it?

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01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:45.760
<v Speaker 3>What of it?

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01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:47.519
<v Speaker 2>We all do it? Wait?

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01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:48.480
<v Speaker 3>What go back?

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the all time interviews. So I killed someone?

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01:05:52.519 --> 01:05:55.000
<v Speaker 2>What of it? Yeah? Yeah, No, they've nominated this lunatic

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01:05:55.079 --> 01:05:58.159
<v Speaker 2>in Iowa who wants to like ban the mRNA vaccine.

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01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:00.920
<v Speaker 2>He wants COVID vaccines off the shelf. More from Me

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01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Marxist hijacked the curriculum in Iowa. There's a decade of

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01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Republican rule, but they're not backing away from him. The

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01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:11.039
<v Speaker 2>RGA is going to put tens of millions of dollars

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01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:12.199
<v Speaker 2>on air behind this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So's anyway, Yeah, well, like you said, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a bumpy couple weeks in these primaries,

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<v Speaker 1>but once August comes and goes, we're all behind the nominee,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever it may be. Did you see that On the

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<v Speaker 1>sidelines of one of the events with a dual Politico

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01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:32.840
<v Speaker 1>asked AOC about running for president, and she said, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't say that I've ruled it out. She also talked

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01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:38.840
<v Speaker 1>about her own definition of what big tent means, general

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01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:41.800
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on how she's preparing for the possibility of a

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<v Speaker 1>run in twenty eight we've talked so much about elections

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<v Speaker 1>that are happening November, we get a little treat to

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<v Speaker 1>talk just a tiny bit of speculation before we end

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01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:50.079
<v Speaker 1>the pod.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a little bit of like a there's like

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01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:55.559
<v Speaker 3>an Axio story about like about AOC embracing kind of

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01:06:55.599 --> 01:06:58.119
<v Speaker 3>Obama style hope and change, a sort of some as

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<v Speaker 3>like evidence of her shift in preparation for running, and

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01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:04.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't really think it like reflects a like if

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<v Speaker 3>you go. I think AOC has evolved as a public figure,

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01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:09.920
<v Speaker 3>and I think she has learned a lot since she's

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01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:11.800
<v Speaker 3>been in Congress. But I think part of what her

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01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:14.119
<v Speaker 3>appeal has always been is that you know she's there's

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<v Speaker 3>some she's asked and she says, I don't. It's something like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't come from a I come from a working

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<v Speaker 3>class family. I didn't come from a militant leftist family,

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<v Speaker 3>right like Isaac. That's just right, like this reading the

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<v Speaker 3>stage directions a little bit. But her appeal has always

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<v Speaker 3>been that she hasn't sounded like what Republicans want her

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<v Speaker 3>to sound like. She sounded so much more optimistic and hopeful.

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<v Speaker 3>And she's also, by the way, said something similar about

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<v Speaker 3>not ruling out like I think a month ago, like

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to be something that keeps happening. But

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<v Speaker 3>whether she runs for Senate or president or neither, like

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<v Speaker 3>she's going to use the power she has, and she

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<v Speaker 3>is I think a more important and attention worthy figure

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<v Speaker 3>as long as the possibility of earning for presidents out there, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Single best way to get media coverage is to suggest

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<v Speaker 2>that you're going to run for president. She's smart, she

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<v Speaker 2>knows that this will get her attention for her ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she's going to run or not.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like she might. I like, the the only

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<v Speaker 2>size tent we are allowed to have is circus. Our

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<v Speaker 2>tent has got to be gigantic at this point. We

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<v Speaker 2>need to fit a lot of people underneath this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad she's saying that. I will say that.

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<v Speaker 1>She if if I were her and I were thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of running for president, she is, And she's probably being

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<v Speaker 1>told and knows herself because she's very, very smart that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, her risk is that she's seen as too

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<v Speaker 1>left and too extreme, and she's seen all the polling data.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. And if you're going to run for president

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<v Speaker 1>and you at least want to prepare for the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>that you might, I think she's doing all the right

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<v Speaker 1>things that you would do, which is that it made

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<v Speaker 1>me less than her answers right about like are you

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<v Speaker 1>running or not? Like the way that she's endorsing or

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<v Speaker 1>not endorsing Cer. She didn't endorse Graham Platner. She hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>endorsed this this progressive challenger in Michigan in a house seat.

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<v Speaker 3>And then wasn't on stage for them. Like she's like

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<v Speaker 3>being very careful.

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<v Speaker 1>She's being very careful, but not in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>seems like cautious, Like she's just being deliberate and her

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<v Speaker 1>rhetoric right, Like she said, you know, you can have

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<v Speaker 1>a clear vision for what we're trying to accomplish as

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<v Speaker 1>the country and also include everyone in it and show

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone has a place in that as well. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's not it's not the same you hear from

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<v Speaker 1>many of the DSA candidates today except whatm Donnie should say.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I take her also out our word when she

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<v Speaker 3>was asked about this previously. What she's looking for sort

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<v Speaker 3>of outcomes right. She's not just about her and her position.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you think in twenty twenty eight, there's obviously

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a big, contentious and very important primary,

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<v Speaker 3>someone either the vote of the left will be divided

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<v Speaker 3>or will be united behind one figure. If it is her,

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<v Speaker 3>she knows that as that person she trusts, like she

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<v Speaker 3>knows how responsible and capable and careful she will be

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<v Speaker 3>and deliberate about how to hold that position, whether it

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<v Speaker 3>is as the nominee or as the person who helps

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<v Speaker 3>unite the party behind whoever the nominee would be. And

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<v Speaker 3>that is like the figure who is right to like

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<v Speaker 3>represent like what comes after. Bernie is someone who a

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<v Speaker 3>just truly believes in this fight and representing it as

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<v Speaker 3>persuasively as possible, but also like Bernie and AOC understand

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<v Speaker 3>that if the moderate more moderate candidate wins, it is

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<v Speaker 3>just as important to get get behind them.

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<v Speaker 1>She comes across as someone who takes very seriously her

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<v Speaker 1>role in the party wherever whatever it may be, and

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<v Speaker 1>her role in politics, which is a good thing to see.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's our show for today, Dan and I

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<v Speaker 1>will be back with a new show on Friday. Positive

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<v Speaker 1>America is a Crooked Media production. Our show is produced

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