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<v Speaker 1>I'm from Central Texas, and they'll have somehow always believed

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<v Speaker 1>in bigfoot. I've never had any experiences here that I

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<v Speaker 1>was aware of. However, as I get older, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there were times when I may have had experiences and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize it. I want to share with you what

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<v Speaker 1>happened north of Nashville a few years ago when I

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<v Speaker 1>was working there. I went up one summer for a

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<v Speaker 1>big job and was fortunate to have friends from my

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<v Speaker 1>hometown who lived about thirty miles from where I was working.

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<v Speaker 1>They live on a big hill way out in the

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<v Speaker 1>country near the Kentucky border. The driveway leading to their

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<v Speaker 1>house ran along the creek that ran through the holler,

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<v Speaker 1>with a ridge line on both sides. It was absolutely beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by lush, green trees and the sight and sound

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<v Speaker 1>of the babbling creek over its rocky bed. I often

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<v Speaker 1>went for walks or a jog in the evenings when

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't too tired. I had done so many times

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<v Speaker 1>when one evening, about an hour before sunset, as I

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<v Speaker 1>was walking on the far ridge, I heard a whoop.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was hearing things, and shortly after that,

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<v Speaker 1>on the hillside next to me, only a few hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards away, I heard a clear and loud tree knock.

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<v Speaker 1>I really started to think, now was I hearing things?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it some locals or meth heads messing with me?

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<v Speaker 1>I kept walking, my friend's dog at my side as

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to reason out what I had heard. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>gone another one hundred yards when I heard another woop.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell, I thought, and it was followed shortly

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<v Speaker 1>by another wood knock, this time on the fore hill.

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<v Speaker 1>The dog had disappeared so much for Man's best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>I decided then it was time to head back. I

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<v Speaker 1>heard a few more knocks and woops before I got

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<v Speaker 1>back to the house, but none of them were closer

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<v Speaker 1>than the others. I don't know if they knew I

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<v Speaker 1>was there. I don't think so. It was an extremely secluded,

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<v Speaker 1>rough terrain covered in thick woods. The one thing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely certain of is that it was not people I

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<v Speaker 1>was hearing. I was staying in my RV at my

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<v Speaker 1>friend's place. From that night forward, I always used my

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<v Speaker 1>spot like to check before I went outside. I never

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<v Speaker 1>saw anything, but I did occasionally feel like something was

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<v Speaker 1>watching me or was close by. I know this wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>an actual sighting, but it was enough to change me

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<v Speaker 1>from being just a believer to a knower. Ray. Look

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this, and look I'm no authority on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I do know this. You said

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<v Speaker 1>you felt like that something was watching you. You didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think in a way, you're saying you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you were alone alone when you should have

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<v Speaker 1>been alone. There shouldn't have been anything around you. I

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<v Speaker 1>always kind of encourage people to, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go with your sixth sense there, that feeling that you get,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when something is around is kind of more

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<v Speaker 1>times than not. I kind of It's like I read

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<v Speaker 1>a thing one time that said if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>hunch about something like this doesn't apply to bigfoot at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I just kind of stumbled on this article.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was actually in a dentist office and

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading this article. You know how you just

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<v Speaker 1>pick up a magazine, you just read whatever's there. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a women's magazine, of course, and I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>Thought and it was advice to women and it said

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you think your spouse is being unfaithful

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<v Speaker 1>to you, you're probably right. Now. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that at all at all. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you need just a little bit of evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I could go through all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I don't know much about any of that,

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<v Speaker 1>but the point is is, like you have a hunch,

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<v Speaker 1>there are little things that clue you in that something

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<v Speaker 1>is there, and most of us we try to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to normal just as fast as we can. If

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<v Speaker 1>there's something strange going on, we try to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to normal as quickly as we can. And in these situations,

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<v Speaker 1>what you'll do is you'll kind of brush it off. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that was a tree knock, but maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a piece of wood falling out of a tree

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<v Speaker 1>and that hit another tree. You know, you'll explain it away.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you get that feeling, you're probably right. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Should you run and hide and be terribly scared and

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. Probably not, But trust your instincts, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you did on this one. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean to ramble on so long about this, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of interesting to me because I think these anecdotal,

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<v Speaker 1>weird kind of events, sounds and noises and smells and

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<v Speaker 1>feelings that people have, I think there's merit to those

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<v Speaker 1>and I love hearing these, and I really appreciate the

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<v Speaker 1>man sending this. This was great. I really really appreciated Ray.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on to one more. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>to be nearing the end of my days on earth

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<v Speaker 1>and surely soon to meet my maker. I will not

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<v Speaker 1>lie about that, and lying was never my habit. I

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<v Speaker 1>can shoot the bull, but I'm well known to be

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<v Speaker 1>an overly serious type person. I'm just a bit strange.

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<v Speaker 1>I am by birth a Texas Native. I have two

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<v Speaker 1>role numbers in the Cherokee tribe and descended from a

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<v Speaker 1>Scottish blacksmith, indentured servant who came early to America and

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<v Speaker 1>later became wealthy. I was a mere weed, yet I

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<v Speaker 1>can truly claim great roots, but many burnt leaves. My

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<v Speaker 1>family fought our British brothers and on both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>our Civil War. And I am second cousin to the

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<v Speaker 1>man in Black, mister Johnny Cash. I'm grateful and proud

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<v Speaker 1>and unashamed Southerner and a proud American. I was also

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<v Speaker 1>a military brat and later a Navy veteran. Being a

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<v Speaker 1>military child, I was raised for eleven and a half

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<v Speaker 1>years in the shadow of sack the former Strategic Air Command.

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<v Speaker 1>I volunteered right out of high school and joined the Navy,

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<v Speaker 1>which should have been a career move but turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be rather abbreviated as that US Air Force brat.

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<v Speaker 1>I have an interesting and true story of a sacked

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<v Speaker 1>Nouke base that was commandeered in nineteen fifty two by

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we call UFOs. It changed a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people's minds and thinkings, but I will get to

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<v Speaker 1>that at the end of my letter. For nine years

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in the Pacific Northwest and certainly loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>Times were tough, but I was able to be employed

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<v Speaker 1>with the US Forestry Service during part of that sojourn.

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<v Speaker 1>I was young. I knew many government forestry personnel, landowners, loggers, hunters,

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<v Speaker 1>and fishermen, and a lot of them had personal tests

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<v Speaker 1>the moonies of Bigfoot. So does the US Air Force

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<v Speaker 1>Survival School in northeast Washington State. Personally, I spent every

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<v Speaker 1>free moment I could get in those forested mountains and

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<v Speaker 1>trudged up and down them carrying land surveying equipment and

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<v Speaker 1>personal gear for better or worse. While I certainly had

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<v Speaker 1>my own share of harrowing adventures, and scares. I not

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<v Speaker 1>once encountered a sasquatch, even though living actively right in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of their habitat, and I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>clue as to them being any more than folklore. I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up back down south during the toughest of economic

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<v Speaker 1>times and in a sad and unfulfilled state of mind

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<v Speaker 1>and with very empty pockets. I had also just lost

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<v Speaker 1>everything that I had gained in the Northwest. Twice. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I've had the pleasure to return to Arkansas to live presently.

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<v Speaker 1>I live in northwest Arkansas. Decades ago, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>few acres of woods adjoining the Watchitaw National Forest in

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<v Speaker 1>Montgomery County, west of Hot Springs. It is right across

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<v Speaker 1>the highway from the lake of the same name that

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<v Speaker 1>would be Lake Watchitah. It didn't take long, though, to

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<v Speaker 1>discover the real reason why the former owner, a retired

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<v Speaker 1>of Social Security judge, gave me such a great deal

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<v Speaker 1>on this land. He even threw in a decent boat,

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<v Speaker 1>motor and trailer in trade for me doing the survey.

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<v Speaker 1>He and his wife just wanted to get it sold.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps the Misses couldn't tolerate the woods. Some city folk

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<v Speaker 1>are bothered by that they were not ever going to

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<v Speaker 1>live there again. They moved back to the city, and

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<v Speaker 1>I soon learned why. The judge and the missus had

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<v Speaker 1>a well on the property. But it was awful. It

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<v Speaker 1>was greasy water, almost unusable. Mobile homes are not such

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<v Speaker 1>bad choices for a dwelling, as long as you don't

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<v Speaker 1>stick it in a park with a and other such contraptions.

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<v Speaker 1>The electromagnetic attraction or the collection of weirdos in them

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<v Speaker 1>may be too much for a tornado to resist. I

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<v Speaker 1>suspect tornadoes are under some degree of control by normally

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<v Speaker 1>unseen forces. That is what makes me a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a weirdo. Hey man, don't talk about the trailer parks.

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<v Speaker 1>You mess with me. You messing with the whole trailer park.

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<v Speaker 1>On the back of this house. The judge had had

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<v Speaker 1>a nice deck installed. He even planned to have a

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<v Speaker 1>rock garden. Rocks are about the only thing that will

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<v Speaker 1>grow in that bit of red clay and is continually

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<v Speaker 1>producing chunks of quartz that just works up out of

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<v Speaker 1>the ground despite gravity, and is surely the result of

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth's rotation. Maybe, or perhaps it was the aluminum

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<v Speaker 1>roof on the mobile home. It created a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>hell since he had located it hanging over a hill,

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<v Speaker 1>but under one gigantic old oak tree. That tree produced

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<v Speaker 1>the largest acorns I've ever seen, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them acorns dropped from oak trees, this one in profusion.

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<v Speaker 1>Sleep was not easily obtained. Worse, the area has or

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<v Speaker 1>had an odd propensity to echo the slightest sounds. A

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<v Speaker 1>seasoned one pound acre falling on a metal roof from

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<v Speaker 1>near seventy feet produces a loud bang. A continuous barrage

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<v Speaker 1>produces a resounding den of racket. One could go insane

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<v Speaker 1>from that alone. Perhaps that was enough to make anyone

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<v Speaker 1>sell out fast, and to make such a sweet deal

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<v Speaker 1>to the unknowing buyer. They had that decent old bass

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<v Speaker 1>and ski boat, though they could at least go fishing

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<v Speaker 1>often across the highway in Lake watchitaw and there were

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<v Speaker 1>the deer and the squirrels. It was a hunting and

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<v Speaker 1>fishing heaven. But I heard they spent an inordinate amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time away from the property to be candid. After

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<v Speaker 1>I bought it, so did I. In order to make

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<v Speaker 1>the payments, and as there were few jobs that I

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<v Speaker 1>could take locally, I went into long haul trucking. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to be home for a couple of days every

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks. What a lonely occupation. Still, it paid the

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<v Speaker 1>bills and provided a home for my ailing and aged parents,

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<v Speaker 1>who at first thought it was a genuine God send.

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<v Speaker 1>We all thought so briefly, and we tried to make

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<v Speaker 1>it a home. Soon my only siblings showed up and

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<v Speaker 1>presumed to help out and keep an eye on them.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to use my bedroom, which overhung the hill,

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<v Speaker 1>only occasionally, but for several reasons, huge acorns and being

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<v Speaker 1>addicted to diesel vibrations, I slept often in my truck

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<v Speaker 1>sleeper even though I was home. I knew of the

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<v Speaker 1>large numbers of deer in the area, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the usual small bear, cougar, bobcats, etc. Yet on the

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<v Speaker 1>two trails that ran the length of the property below

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<v Speaker 1>and on either side of the hill, I seldom found

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<v Speaker 1>deer tracks, or any other tracks for that matter, but

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<v Speaker 1>they showed what I thought was some kind of heavy

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<v Speaker 1>use hard clay and rock, not the best sort of

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<v Speaker 1>ground for detecting the sort of game that used it.

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<v Speaker 1>I passed it off as a minor mystery, unworthy of

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<v Speaker 1>much thought, which proved to be my mistake. My plot

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<v Speaker 1>of dirt and rocks was heavily wooded with pines, dogwood

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<v Speaker 1>and large oaks. Dead leaves were a problem in the

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<v Speaker 1>they bothered my dad for entirely different reasons. She and

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<v Speaker 1>I note that it was not her decision to make,

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<v Speaker 1>was later cleaned up by myself, my old father, and

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<v Speaker 1>and I was sick about it. I had noticed every

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<v Speaker 1>down towards Lake Watchitaw across the highway. Strange enough, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>the unusual and mysterious sounds could be followed beyond my hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>tracing them by the barking and baying of distant neighbors dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew the area well enough that those deer, It's

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<v Speaker 1>to the lake to drink and or bathe Sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>the distant barking would resume around two am, and I

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<v Speaker 1>could trace their progress back towards my place, back up

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<v Speaker 1>the trails, and again toward it and into the Watchitaw

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<v Speaker 1>National Forest. My father liked to rise early and retire

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<v Speaker 1>around sunset with a glass of iced tea out on

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<v Speaker 1>and the work that we had all done that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Several times, however, he'd remarked about how he thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was being spied on by a big, hairy, camouflaged neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>hiding behind the trees out past our property lines. And

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough, one evening I thought too that I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the fellow. Sometimes he would sway left to right, but

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<v Speaker 1>usually he seemed to peer from behind the trees. Once

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<v Speaker 1>he would seem to melt into the forest before I

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<v Speaker 1>was totally unsure of my old pop's vision and sanity,

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<v Speaker 1>but wrote it off as my father's imagination. This too

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<v Speaker 1>was a mistake. My brother, who occupied a sixteen foot

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<v Speaker 1>travel trailer out by the forest service line, was however, terrified.

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<v Speaker 1>He seldom spoke of it, but had begun to keep

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<v Speaker 1>pounding on and jarring his trailer at night, sometimes scratching

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<v Speaker 1>on the walls. He later built a large fire pit

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<v Speaker 1>He was a heavy drinker, though, and I chalked it

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety one, I laid in my room with the

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<v Speaker 1>windows open. Sleep was difficult due to the bombardment of

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<v Speaker 1>acorns on the roof. We were exhausted from cleaning up

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<v Speaker 1>the logging slash left behind by the crooked logger. I

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<v Speaker 1>must have been leary about something, because I was sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>with my loaded three point fifty seven magnum under the

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<v Speaker 1>sheets on the pillow next to me, along with our

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<v Speaker 1>three legged, orphaned tomcat. Oh the things that can happen

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<v Speaker 1>on a full moonlit night. Unfortunately, until I recently learned

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<v Speaker 1>of nasal strips, I had a monstrous snoring problem. I

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<v Speaker 1>could rattle the windows. How anyone or anything could sleep

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<v Speaker 1>near me was a mystery in itself. But that night,

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<v Speaker 1>that strange cat had decided to sleep right next to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the actual time, but it was late.

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<v Speaker 1>The old tomcat awoke me with a terrified catterwall like

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<v Speaker 1>I had never heard. He was arched up like a

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween cat, and his tail was fully bushed out in

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<v Speaker 1>sheer terror. And as he was screaming at the door,

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<v Speaker 1>he was also hosing a horrible smelling stream of something

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<v Speaker 1>onto my pillow. The cat was in a state of fear,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike anything I had ever seen. I looked at the door,

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<v Speaker 1>which had a one foot square window, and simultaneously reached

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<v Speaker 1>for and cocked my revolver. Filling that window was the biggest,

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<v Speaker 1>hairiest man I had ever seen. I drew a bead

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<v Speaker 1>on his head. I was scared, and I was pulling

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<v Speaker 1>the trigger, about to send a hollow point bullet blasting

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<v Speaker 1>through that window, right into the face of that creature,

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<v Speaker 1>which by then I knew from its moonlit feature, was

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<v Speaker 1>merely holding a near human but huge hand to its

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<v Speaker 1>face in an attempt to see just what in the

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<v Speaker 1>hell was making that god awful noise inside that metal house.

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<v Speaker 1>Mere seconds passed as this encounter transpired, perhaps split seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>The creature surely realized it was in trouble. It threw

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<v Speaker 1>up its extra long arms as it turned and ran,

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<v Speaker 1>screaming very ape like, flailing its arms and running for

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<v Speaker 1>the forest service woods. I could see this creature quite

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<v Speaker 1>well in the light of the full moon. In retrospect,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to not have shot it. It was as

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<v Speaker 1>terrified as me and the three legged cat, which had

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<v Speaker 1>continued squalling and bolted, screaming from the room, still hosing

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<v Speaker 1>down its full path with that ungodly smelling liquid. It

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<v Speaker 1>took days of hard cleaning to remove that odor. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a few things that I am certain of. The

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<v Speaker 1>creature was screaming in fear as he ran from danger. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm positive he was cursing me for all that he

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<v Speaker 1>was worth. The logging slash he had run through was

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<v Speaker 1>more than likely unpleasant and aggravated him even more. Before

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<v Speaker 1>the erroneous logging operations, they were familiar with the woods

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<v Speaker 1>of my newly acquired property. At that moment, he had

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<v Speaker 1>no time to be careful. He just had to go.

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<v Speaker 1>What I experienced that night was a huge humanoid, bipedal,

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<v Speaker 1>hairy ape man, one who was certainly capable of animal

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<v Speaker 1>and human like thinking. I finally realized why the old

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<v Speaker 1>social security judge was so eager to sell out. It

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<v Speaker 1>was all very clear at that point. The creature was

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<v Speaker 1>roughly nine to twelve feet tall, likely weighing in at

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred pounds. Long, stringy, dark hair covered its body.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not detect any odor over the horrid stench

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<v Speaker 1>from that three legged tomcat. It had to be that

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<v Speaker 1>tall in order to bend over the railing on the

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<v Speaker 1>porch and have its face against my window. That end

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<v Speaker 1>of the mobile home was perched over the side of

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<v Speaker 1>a hill, right under that big oak tree. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>very good observer, generally speaking. I was good at shooting

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<v Speaker 1>down aircraft and other military targets while in the Navy.

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<v Speaker 1>As a member of the US Government survey crew and

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<v Speaker 1>a Forest Service cartographer and a military recon photo analyst,

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<v Speaker 1>I know how to gather pertinent details. There are not

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<v Speaker 1>half a dozen folk anywhere in the nation with whom

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<v Speaker 1>I have told these things too, and in such a detail.

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<v Speaker 1>The usual response is total disbelief and all that anyone

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<v Speaker 1>could spend such a tale. But I have indeed had

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<v Speaker 1>a somewhat interesting life. Some have said I should write

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<v Speaker 1>a book. Others simply dread to get me started. So

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<v Speaker 1>I normally keep it all to myself and really have

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<v Speaker 1>few associates these days. I failed earlier to relate that

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<v Speaker 1>while I personally had no sasquatch of bigfoot experiences in

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<v Speaker 1>the Northwest, I personally knew reputable and sane, even highly

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<v Speaker 1>educated people who had experienced such encounters. Most were harmless,

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<v Speaker 1>but some encounters were malevolent in nature. From my acquaintances

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<v Speaker 1>in all the Pacific Northwest who have had such experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>I have concluded that said creature is family oriented and

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<v Speaker 1>indeed raise and populate the world in areas where they

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<v Speaker 1>find comfort and sustenance, much like us. But they choose

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<v Speaker 1>to generally observe us and avoid us at all costs

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<v Speaker 1>if possible, and by all means we should be aware

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<v Speaker 1>of them, but also avoid them if possible. I was

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<v Speaker 1>once an avid out doorsman. I love to camp, fish,

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<v Speaker 1>and hunt, but I will not go into the forest

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<v Speaker 1>to stay overnight now unless equipped with at least the

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<v Speaker 1>largest boar weapon available. Anything less, if used in defense,

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<v Speaker 1>were merely enraged. The wounded creature, the smallest creature ever reported,

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<v Speaker 1>is capable of ripping the largest and strongest human male

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<v Speaker 1>to shreds in seconds, and you just may become dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew well a devout Christian family, all highly educated

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington State. They were not known to lie or embellish.

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<v Speaker 1>They had close regular exposure to families of these creatures

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<v Speaker 1>that was adjacent to the US Air Force Survival School

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<v Speaker 1>in the mountains of northeast Washington State above Cusick, Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>the Air Force made pilots parachute into those mountains to

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<v Speaker 1>survive or die, and were not allowed to have any

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<v Speaker 1>human contact until the course was terminated. There's no telling

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<v Speaker 1>the stories that those flyers could tell, or the instructors

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<v Speaker 1>who manned the school. My Arkansas experience, my small wooded

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<v Speaker 1>plot was adjacent to the Wachitaw National Forest, not so

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<v Speaker 1>much as a fence separated it. There are many natural

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<v Speaker 1>caves above my old property, also all throughout that region

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<v Speaker 1>or crystal minds, many not yet operative. Anyone or any

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<v Speaker 1>creature can definitely make any number of those home if needed,