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<v Speaker 1>Bonus.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got this.

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<v Speaker 1>So as as I was logging into my computer, this

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<v Speaker 1>push notification comes up from from the news app and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a and I admittedly I haven't clicked on it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's a New Yorker article that that says

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<v Speaker 1>the ethical implications of reclining your airplane seat?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And okay, again.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not clicked on the link, so I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be you know, but I was thinking about how,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it didn't used to be an ethical issue.

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<v Speaker 1>You just used to be able to recline your seat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Why is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the airplanes made enough room available for someone to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to recline their seat and not have it

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<v Speaker 1>impinge on the person behind them. Yes, right, yes, And

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<v Speaker 1>so these airlines are like, well, let's just cram more

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<v Speaker 1>people in here, like like like abused sard and then

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<v Speaker 1>make them feel like shit for wanting just like a

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<v Speaker 1>modicum of comfort in this flying I was gonna say bus,

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<v Speaker 1>but actually that does a disservice to buses. Buses allow

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more personal space than what we get

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<v Speaker 1>on most economy airlines.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and do you imagine that someone said, well, now

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<v Speaker 2>that they're cramped so tight, maybe we should remove the

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<v Speaker 2>reclining function because that will put the back of the

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<v Speaker 2>seat in the person behind them's face. And you have

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<v Speaker 2>to imagine they were like, no, no, no, no, we can't

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<v Speaker 2>get If we take that away, they'll feel like they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting less value, and then they will riot.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's give them a half inch of give and act

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<v Speaker 1>like we're doing them a favor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so true. And it's funny because when the

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<v Speaker 2>seat does come into my face, and now that they

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<v Speaker 2>most of the airlines have screens there now now yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just like whom you know, coming right at

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<v Speaker 2>my fam I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa, Okay, like this

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<v Speaker 2>is a new dynamic or there's something on the little

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<v Speaker 2>table in front of me that now I mean, my

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<v Speaker 2>coke could get knocked over, yeah, if I have it

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<v Speaker 2>in the wrong spot right, And so that's annoying. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also have enough, I think awareness to not be

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<v Speaker 2>mad at the person because they're not doing anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's still annoying. And then when I reclined my seat,

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<v Speaker 2>I am thinking sorry, you know, as I'm like going back,

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, they're putting it on us. Why are they

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<v Speaker 2>putting on us. Why is that our problem?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was saying. I was thinking about how

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<v Speaker 1>as as movie theater seats have gotten more comfortable, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you can lie horizontally at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>You can. You can go to bed if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, airplane seats have gotten more you know. Just I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I saw a thing that was it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a proposed way of squeezing in more economy seats and

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<v Speaker 1>it's basically standing. It's it's basically it's a glorified standing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like there's like a sop

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<v Speaker 1>to leaning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, And I'm like, what kind of fricking Logan's run? Weird?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Edge of Tomorrow Future? Are we trapped in?

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<v Speaker 1>At this point?

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't there another thing that was proposed? I don't remember

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<v Speaker 2>if this is satire or real, which is like speaks

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<v Speaker 2>to our times, but like they were gonna like do tears, yes, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>of seating and airplanes yeah, and so it was like weird,

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<v Speaker 2>like you would be have someone's feet in your face

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<v Speaker 2>basically who is like right behind you or just so

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<v Speaker 2>they could fit more people into the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's one of those things where I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just everything they're doing to try to squeeze more

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<v Speaker 1>money out of it is making me want to fly

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<v Speaker 1>less and less.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and sorry, I got up to shut my window.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'll cut this out. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>screw that. This is We're getting real. This is real

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<v Speaker 2>talk here. And I realized that I normally I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have my window open, but it was open, and like

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<v Speaker 2>all the sounds of the outside were coming in. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Oh, this isn't gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>I think your neighborhood needs to hear you bitching about Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think? You need to stick your head out.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to be like network. You know, that would

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<v Speaker 2>actually be funny if I was like, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think and some guy walking his dogs like about what

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<v Speaker 2>I was like about airlines and like the crappy seating

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<v Speaker 2>all that sucks? Man, right, take care you know? But no, shoot,

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<v Speaker 2>I do not want to get off topic of what

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<v Speaker 2>you just said, because I am so on board with

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<v Speaker 2>everything you're talking about. What are we saying just airlines? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the staggering that sucks anyway, But that is funny because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know what point now. Sorry, We're at a point

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<v Speaker 1>now where if you want to have a decent experience.

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<v Speaker 1>The decent quote unquote experience doesn't exist anymore. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>like the insanely rich people experience. Sure, yes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there is steerage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like Titanic all over.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So we're just chilling with Fabrizio and that and

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<v Speaker 1>that Scottish guy. Yeah, yeah, I hope and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a steam pipe doesn't fall on us.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, now, okay, And yes, prices are going up,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not making me feel better about like the

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<v Speaker 2>less desirable conditions. And also you know now all the

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<v Speaker 2>airlines charge for you to check in luggage, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that makes me want to do the luggage that

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<v Speaker 2>fits that you can put overhead, right, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>the smaller suitcase. But the thing is the planes aren't

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<v Speaker 2>equipped to hold that many carry on suitcases, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>you if you have like a and that's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're check it just keeps like compounding. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when you want to check in, even if you check

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<v Speaker 2>in right at the time they tell you to check,

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<v Speaker 2>by the second, you are still somehow in group G

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So that means you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go in like next to last with your carry on

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<v Speaker 2>suitcase that you know isn't gonna fit, so you have

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<v Speaker 2>to walk all the way to the back of the

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<v Speaker 2>plane to your seat to see that there's no room left.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to go all the way to the

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<v Speaker 2>front of the plane and fight all the people who

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<v Speaker 2>are coming onto the plane now just to tell the

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<v Speaker 2>flight attendant that there's no space for your bag so

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<v Speaker 2>they have to check it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, yeah, I mean it, it's it is fascinating because

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that makes it make sense is when

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<v Speaker 1>you realize that customer service is not actually the goal,

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<v Speaker 1>right yeah, right, Like it's just that that left uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know the hangar a long time ago. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like, how do we squeeze as much value

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<v Speaker 1>for shareholders out of this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes the whole experience work.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just my series of thoughts when I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this thing about what's the ethical responsibility? I'm like, hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is me. This is crazy talk from Zaki. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go back to the days when leaning your

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<v Speaker 1>seatback was not an ethical choice that you had to make, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I miss when it wasn't an ethical choice, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just an.

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<v Speaker 2>Option that you had. Me too, man, take me back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Zachiissan. That's the way the cookie crumbles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or should be like, yeah, yeah, that's the way

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<v Speaker 2>I see it. That should be like your new segment,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm zach Uisan and that's the way I see it,

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<v Speaker 2>the way things ought to be.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. That was the title of Rush Limbaugh's book.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I was like, yeah, that was somewhere in my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember reading that in junior high and being like,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is so smart. That's what a freaking goddamn

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<v Speaker 1>dumbass that was, you might say. You might say I

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<v Speaker 1>was obsessed with Russe Limbaugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what oh oh, so you find yourself drawn

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<v Speaker 2>to obsessions.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't realize it until this past week, and

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<v Speaker 1>then suddenly, suddenly the threads started tying together. I did

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<v Speaker 1>just see obsession finally.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what. Okay, here's here's what I'm thinking. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a couple movies I'd like to talk about very briefly,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I would like to save Obsession for last,

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<v Speaker 2>because I want to hear your fully spoiler free, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into a take. Is that okay? Like I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of make that the main review of this if

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<v Speaker 2>that's okay. Absolutely, And for people who are listening right

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<v Speaker 2>now so they know the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to this, this is the bonus show.

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<v Speaker 1>You're one of our obsessives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so absolutely, and we are with us and we're

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with you. Like, let's obsess together.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And and Obsession debuts on Peacock on July seventeenth.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it really me? Up? Very shortly, so this

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<v Speaker 2>is actually perfectly timed. So yeah, and I look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to talking about that. But I think you had another movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I have, like maybe one or two I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>talk about real Quie.

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw Evil Dead Burne tell me about it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're the one to talk to about horror, Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like the apparently I don't know what's happened to me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so this is the sixth Evil Dead movie overall

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<v Speaker 1>since since nineteen eighty one. Okay, okay, right, first three

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<v Speaker 1>we're by Sam Ramy and then and then we got

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<v Speaker 1>there was like a reboot in twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So, I mean, and for people who aren't aware

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<v Speaker 2>of this series, I mean, there's a real The first

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<v Speaker 2>three movies have a real authorship feeling to them, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like these are sam Remi movies. His sensibility, his humor,

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<v Speaker 2>he's creating them. It's very much like a Sam Raimi

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<v Speaker 2>feeling experience. But then yes, they made like a new

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<v Speaker 2>one in twenty thirteen, which he might have produced or something, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's a pe on.

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<v Speaker 1>All of them, along with Robert Tapert and Bruce Campbell

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<v Speaker 1>is one of one of the producers too, which is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he gets a piece.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Fida Alvarez did the one from ten years

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<v Speaker 1>ago or from thirteen years ago. He did Alien Romulus

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years back, and then Alien or Evil Dead,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what was it called Rise, Evil

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<v Speaker 1>Dead Rise. That was twenty twenty three. That was Lee Cronin,

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<v Speaker 1>who just had the New Mummy movie, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>to be confused with the other the Universal Mummy.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, which is probably why they call it.

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Cronin's exactly like the name is supposed to mean something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, or I mean typically right, But I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people were like who. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely the reason they did that was so people would

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<v Speaker 2>know they're not getting into a Brendan Fraser Mummy movie,

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<v Speaker 2>which kind of puts an unfair sort of thing on

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<v Speaker 2>Lee Cronin, like I didn't ask for them to put

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<v Speaker 2>my name there, you know, I know that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this new one is an evil dead burn okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Right. If you're not a fan of a hooks in

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and uh, you know, fountain pens jabbed into ears,

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<v Speaker 1>this might not be your ball of axe, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Not for me, Not for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was literally watching much of it through squinted eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Gets amuse from it right now, So I admire the

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<v Speaker 1>But man, it's rough. I don't know, I'm just ah,

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<v Speaker 2>of horror. And I think the reason I've been enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>enduring some of the you know, horror elements because the

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<v Speaker 2>stories have been so strong. But this sounds like something

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like, now you're going for the experience to

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's definitely that, you know. I I I think

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<v Speaker 1>what I realized is is the original three Evil Dead

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<v Speaker 1>then the second one you're like, Okay, this is this

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, Okay, put.

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<v Speaker 1>Some studio money into it, and now you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>more of a mainstream movie, right, And so I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>each of those on that level. Of the three, I

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<v Speaker 2>So so this is kind of comedy, like right, there's

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<v Speaker 1>I would call it a horror comedy. I mean it's something,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's in the vein of Ghostbusters.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, you know, yeah, like there's monsters doing three

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<v Speaker 2>Stooges routines with our hero, right, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, and so you know these other ones, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>about it, I don't think I've seen the Fadee Alvarez one,

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<v Speaker 1>or if I have, I don't remember it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Rise a few years ago and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>crazy about that either. I just found it very cruel,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And this one, I mean it, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the craft elevates it slightly. I do think it's well made,

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<v Speaker 1>but not my tempo.

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<v Speaker 2>Not your tempo. Yeah, I got it, I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's anyone listening probably knows from what

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<v Speaker 2>you just said if it is or isn't there so.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you. I mean, they spent like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>already got the next one like shot and ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, okay, yeah yeah, like I believe that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next early next year.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like it's been happening more often. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>with the twenty eight years later thing right where they

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<v Speaker 2>had the two basically in the can then they put

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<v Speaker 2>one out at the end of one year and the

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<v Speaker 2>next one out. It's interesting investing investing in their ips.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess spend less make more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well, yeah you could. I don't know about

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<v Speaker 2>these two movies, but now that I think about with

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight years later, you have some of the same actors,

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<v Speaker 2>you have some of the same sets, So you're using

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<v Speaker 2>the same sets for two movies makes a lot of sense. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>will I Well, speaking of spending economically and sequels, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Jackass Best and Last, Yeah, which there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot I can say about this, Like I think

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<v Speaker 2>people already know their relationship to the Jackass series, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's oh, I got to see that or I am

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<v Speaker 2>never going to watch that in my life. And I say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, economic because this is being sold as their

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<v Speaker 2>last film, but it is also the greatest Hits movie,

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<v Speaker 2>So half of it is new material where they're older

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<v Speaker 2>now and they're doing a couple more stunts and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of saying goodbye and getting a little teary about it occasionally,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are also showing like the best of from

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<v Speaker 2>the TV show, from the films, and yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>me and my buddy Michael went and saw it and like,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a great time. It's funny because I think

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<v Speaker 2>be a Jackass person. I didn't watch the TV show.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was in college, someone rented the first Jackass

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<v Speaker 2>movie and I was like, seriously, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a thing. And then I watched it and I just

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<v Speaker 2>laughed with tears in my eyes. And I had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea that I would find it so funny. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it is absolutely stupid with a capital S. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think what makes it so appealing is these guys

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<v Speaker 2>are buddies, and they are just they're in on the

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<v Speaker 2>joke together, sure, and watching them do stupid things and cackle,

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<v Speaker 2>just fall over cackling with one another, sometimes at one another,

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<v Speaker 2>but mostly with one another, there's just something infectious about it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And then over the years the stunts got

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<v Speaker 2>more and more elaborate, and the You're like, I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to sheet see Johnny Knoxville tape himself to a

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<v Speaker 2>rocket and get fired into the air, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>what would happen? So then you're in on the joke

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<v Speaker 2>with them, and so I have enjoyed them and this

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<v Speaker 2>one I did enjoy, and actually I left with my

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<v Speaker 2>face kind of hurting from smiling so much. But I

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<v Speaker 2>also feel like it didn't feel it didn't have me

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<v Speaker 2>as much as some of the others, because half of

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<v Speaker 2>them are stunts I had seen before. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>part of the fun of these movies is seeing something

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<v Speaker 2>them presenting something where you go, oh, no, what is

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<v Speaker 2>what is gonna happen now? But with half of these,

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<v Speaker 2>I had seen them already, so you don't have that fresh,

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<v Speaker 2>giddy thrill, okay, although you are still laughing remembering, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>I remember this one. Yes, yes, this you know that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. And I think this one also leaned

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more into the gross kind of arena

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<v Speaker 2>than I love, you know where it's more speaking of

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<v Speaker 2>fluids and goose, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any fountain pens being jammed anywhere?

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<v Speaker 2>No, thank god, but like there is pooh and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I can endure a little bit of that stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>it just it felt like this one leaned into it

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, ugh, So I found myself doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, blurring my vision a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of I don't need this in my life. And

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, I like, I said, my face

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<v Speaker 2>hurt from smiling, and so, you know, definitely for the initiated.

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<v Speaker 2>In the in fans of the series, there was a moment. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope Michael doesn't mind me sharing this, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was so funny. There's a moment where Steve O is

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<v Speaker 2>completely butt naked, okay, and he puts a ping pong

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<v Speaker 2>ball in his mouth, and then he sits down on

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<v Speaker 2>this table and he shoots a ping pong ball out

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<v Speaker 2>of his butt, like trying to pretend like it had

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<v Speaker 2>gone through his whole body. And it was so gross

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<v Speaker 2>and weird and like you can't just the bass instincts

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<v Speaker 2>in you are like, that's hilarious, you know what I mean. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's funny because then this ping pong ball shoots

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<v Speaker 2>out of his butt. And then Michael like turned to

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<v Speaker 2>me and he's like, I just feel like we have

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<v Speaker 2>bonded on another level now we have gone through this together.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you're totally right, You're totally right witnessing

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<v Speaker 2>that together. So anyway, you know, it was funny. Though,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, that is fascinating because, as you so,

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<v Speaker 2>I googled it, the first movie has a forty nine percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Second one has sixty six, three, sixty seven, four eighty

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<v Speaker 2>you know, five eighty six, this one eighty nine. It's

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<v Speaker 2>amazing to me that it feels like people are sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like I kind of get this now, like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there is something kind of weirdly comforting about watching these people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well well the first one was what like two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Yeah, yeah, so I mean you you can

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<v Speaker 1>you can just picture it like the generation of critics.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're you're Ebert and your Gene Shalett and r whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>I that is stupid, and like you can't even convince

420
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<v Speaker 2>me you know otherwise you're right, you're right, But for

421
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<v Speaker 2>some reason they're is something once you get to know

422
00:23:01.599 --> 00:23:04.119
<v Speaker 2>the characters and watching them do all this stuff together

423
00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:07.440
<v Speaker 2>and just falling over laughing with one another. It's like

424
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<v Speaker 2>I said, it's infectious.

425
00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Plus I think it now is as good a time

426
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<v Speaker 1>as any to stop.

427
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<v Speaker 2>Oh one hundred percent. I mean these guys.

428
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<v Speaker 1>I saw the shock of white hair on Johnny Knoxville's head, yes,

429
00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:21.799
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, God, is watching this? Is

430
00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>it gonna be like watching Indian Dial of Destiny where

431
00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:29.279
<v Speaker 1>you're like, ooh ah.

432
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<v Speaker 2>Well, they show a stunt. I think it's from the

433
00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:36.640
<v Speaker 2>previous one where Knoxville gets into a ring with a bull. Okay,

434
00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:39.839
<v Speaker 2>and the bull it's a bull. The bull just he's

435
00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:43.519
<v Speaker 2>standing there and the bull just charges him and he flips.

436
00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:45.519
<v Speaker 2>He does like a three sixty in the air and

437
00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:50.480
<v Speaker 2>then lands, and it's funny because he looks like, oh yeah,

438
00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:55.480
<v Speaker 2>did we get the shot? And they're like kinda, and

439
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:58.160
<v Speaker 2>he's like okay, And then he gets up and he

440
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<v Speaker 2>does it again.

441
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<v Speaker 1>It's dedication.

442
00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:05.440
<v Speaker 2>It's dedication. And then this time it gets an even

443
00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:08.519
<v Speaker 2>better you know, flip out of him and then it

444
00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:10.839
<v Speaker 2>cuts to him with it. You know, he's on a stretcher,

445
00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:13.640
<v Speaker 2>his head is fixed to the stretcher because he has

446
00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:18.240
<v Speaker 2>a concussion, and you're like, look, God, bless you dude.

447
00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:22.480
<v Speaker 2>That was amazing, Like I was entertained. Yeah, but please

448
00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:27.359
<v Speaker 2>don't die like you know. So yeah, yeah, it's it's good.

449
00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:32.599
<v Speaker 2>It's good that maybe they're stepping away. Now, one more

450
00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:34.640
<v Speaker 2>movie I'll talk about, and then I'm looking forward to

451
00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:38.240
<v Speaker 2>talking about Obsession. Actually there's another movie that I'm going

452
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<v Speaker 2>to save for the next full episode, but I will

453
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<v Speaker 2>throw out that I watched it just in case anyone

454
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:45.519
<v Speaker 2>wants to watch it and then hear me talk about

455
00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:47.079
<v Speaker 2>it a little bit and if you're interested, you can

456
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:49.400
<v Speaker 2>check it out. I watched How to Make a Killing.

457
00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Ah, yes, yeah, I mean I was watching that just

458
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<v Speaker 1>last night. Oh.

459
00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:54.599
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, I wonder if you two would

460
00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:58.200
<v Speaker 2>enjoy watching that together. It's a Glenn Powell movie, and I.

461
00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:01.119
<v Speaker 1>Will say that's why she's watching. Well, I was.

462
00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Gonna say, obligatory, is Glenn paalll a star? The movie started,

463
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:08.640
<v Speaker 2>and I did, I don't know. I had experience this

464
00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:11.359
<v Speaker 2>with every Glenn Powell movie, where I'm like, I don't know, Glenn,

465
00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>pal are you a star? And then when the movie ends,

466
00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:19.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I like that guy. That's the roller coaster

467
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I go on with him. Every single movie. This movie

468
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>comes from John Patton Ford, who previously did Emily the

469
00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Criminal with Aubrey Plaza, which is a movie I really liked.

470
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<v Speaker 2>I will just say it's about a guy. He's sort

471
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<v Speaker 2>of disowned at birth by a wealthy family. His mom

472
00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:44.000
<v Speaker 2>is sort of the black sheep of this wealthy family,

473
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>and then things happen and he, you know, they don't

474
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:51.440
<v Speaker 2>treat him or his mother very well, and he realizes, wow,

475
00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I could get this inheritance if all these people died.

476
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, maybe I could kill them, which is

477
00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:01.759
<v Speaker 2>a very dark premise, and I'll talk more about it.

478
00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:03.440
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just saying it's if you want to check

479
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:05.920
<v Speaker 2>it out, It's on HBO Max. That's how I watched

480
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:07.359
<v Speaker 2>it last night because I was like, I don't use

481
00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:08.960
<v Speaker 2>this app very much and I am paying for it,

482
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:12.799
<v Speaker 2>so what's on here? And it made for good Friday

483
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:16.039
<v Speaker 2>night viewing. But it is a little dark. So I'll

484
00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:17.920
<v Speaker 2>talk about it more in the full episode, but if

485
00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:19.960
<v Speaker 2>anyone's interested in checking it out, I wanted to throw

486
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.480
<v Speaker 2>that out there. I'll talk about that soon. But I've

487
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:29.079
<v Speaker 2>talked about one movie, Zachi, and I'm realizing I might

488
00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:32.039
<v Speaker 2>be the only person in my life who doesn't hate

489
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:32.720
<v Speaker 2>the Minions.

490
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. Well, you know, I know that

491
00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>people subscribe to the patreon' that's what they're paying for

492
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:40.920
<v Speaker 1>to hear you talk about minions.

493
00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:45.279
<v Speaker 2>So this trailer has been playing in front of almost

494
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>every movie I've seen for the past couple months, and

495
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 2>every time, no matter who I'm with, they're always like, ugh,

496
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>you know. And I don't think Chad would mind me

497
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:56.880
<v Speaker 2>saying He's just like, I don't get it. I don't

498
00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.279
<v Speaker 2>get it. It's not like who likes this. And I'm

499
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:06.160
<v Speaker 2>sitting there like stifling laughter at their goofy antics. Anyway,

500
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:11.880
<v Speaker 2>So Minions and Monsters comes out over July fourth Holiday,

501
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:14.920
<v Speaker 2>and here's the thing I learned what the plot is.

502
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>The plot is, basically, these are not the typical minions

503
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:20.720
<v Speaker 2>we've been following. These are minions in the early nineteen

504
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:23.720
<v Speaker 2>twenties or thirties or whatever it is, and they go

505
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:28.000
<v Speaker 2>to Hollywood and it's the minions in old Hollywood, and

506
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:31.920
<v Speaker 2>there's satire of all or parodies more like of all

507
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:34.960
<v Speaker 2>these like Citizen Kane and all these you know, old

508
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Hollywood films, and it's about them working in the industry.

509
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 2>So no grow in this one, No grow and first

510
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.079
<v Speaker 2>of all, I was like, that sounds kind of my alley.

511
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I heard that George Lucas does a cameo in this.

512
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:50.759
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what does that look like? And I

513
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:53.440
<v Speaker 2>saw it was actually getting good reviews. This is the

514
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 2>first Minions movie to actually get good reviews. I think

515
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:59.759
<v Speaker 2>it's in the eighties somewhere and so under cover of darkness,

516
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.279
<v Speaker 2>not telling anyone in my life. I put it on

517
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.240
<v Speaker 2>a fedora. I was like Rafael in the first Ninja

518
00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Turtles movie. I put on a trench coat and fedora

519
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 2>and I went to the movies and bought a ticket,

520
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 2>hoping no one would see me, and I went and

521
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:14.960
<v Speaker 2>saw Minions and monsters on my own Zachi. I left.

522
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:21.799
<v Speaker 2>I laughed. I I here's the thing. The first half

523
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:26.200
<v Speaker 2>of this movie I loved, and it literally is them

524
00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:29.559
<v Speaker 2>accidentally stumbling into Hollywood. Actually, I'll go back a little

525
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:33.160
<v Speaker 2>bit further. It shows them throughout history. Their whole shtick

526
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 2>is they are minions to bad guys throughout history, right,

527
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>and so they're always looking for a bad guy that

528
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>they can work for. But while they're on this boat,

529
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:45.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, and all the minions are working the oars

530
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.559
<v Speaker 2>and another minions working the drum, you know, like ben

531
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Hurst style. There's one minion who's sitting with a drawing

532
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.319
<v Speaker 2>pad and he's drawing the guy doing the orders, and

533
00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:58.759
<v Speaker 2>he's coming up with these funny scenarios about what could happen,

534
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:01.200
<v Speaker 2>what's something funny that could happen right now on this boat?

535
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>And then this other mini and his friend like looks

536
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:08.079
<v Speaker 2>and is like that's funny, you know, and like and

537
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:10.440
<v Speaker 2>he's like, oh, really, you like my creative ideas, And

538
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:12.759
<v Speaker 2>they become this cute little duo where the one guy

539
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.839
<v Speaker 2>is this creative person coming up with these funny scenarios

540
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.720
<v Speaker 2>and drawing him and his best friend laughs and none

541
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:20.839
<v Speaker 2>of the other minions are amused or find it funny.

542
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>And so basically, through a crazy mishap, they wind up

543
00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:28.039
<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood, and this creative minion is like, WHOA like

544
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.319
<v Speaker 2>you tell stories here? Like I like to tell stories.

545
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.240
<v Speaker 2>And so he develops a relationship with this director and

546
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:39.279
<v Speaker 2>he directs all these movies and uses the minions as characters.

547
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:42.000
<v Speaker 2>And they work perfectly in the silent film era, right

548
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:44.279
<v Speaker 2>they because that's basically what they are. They're like Buster

549
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Keaton's and Charlie Chaplin's doing this goofy physical comedy and

550
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:52.720
<v Speaker 2>reacting to everything around them, and they literally do then

551
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.039
<v Speaker 2>get in you know, parodies of Citizen Kane, which made

552
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>me laugh out loud and all these other films, and

553
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:03.559
<v Speaker 2>then what happen is the advent of sound and they

554
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 2>don't speak English, and so everyone's like, what, like, these

555
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 2>guys are here and they're speaking gibberish and we don't want

556
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>to watch them anymore and it makes them really sad,

557
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 2>and so then he you know, then the plot goes

558
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>into whole like, let's conjure monsters from another dimensions so

559
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.119
<v Speaker 2>we can make a monster movie and and you know,

560
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:22.880
<v Speaker 2>we'll have our comeback. And that was kind of where

561
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:24.319
<v Speaker 2>the movie started to lose me, because then it just

562
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:28.480
<v Speaker 2>went into kind of crazy, chaotic, you know fashion, where

563
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like not finding it as witty. So I

564
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>first half of this movie I actually genuinely liked, and

565
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:39.799
<v Speaker 2>I get why the critics enjoyed it. And if you

566
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:42.079
<v Speaker 2>think the minions are funny, you know, you're already in

567
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>the bag for them, and they're antics and people who

568
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>enjoy old Hollywood stuff might enjoy the first forty five

569
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.599
<v Speaker 2>fifty minutes of the movie. But then it does descend

570
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:53.720
<v Speaker 2>into the thing that I think most people just are like,

571
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't. This is not for me. This

572
00:30:55.799 --> 00:31:01.799
<v Speaker 2>is just chaos and silliness and there's no there there

573
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.400
<v Speaker 2>for me. And so sadly, I was like, oh man,

574
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.240
<v Speaker 2>this movie is so close to being great like and

575
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:09.319
<v Speaker 2>it just was like, oh okay, and I enjoyed seeing

576
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:11.119
<v Speaker 2>them do their their goofiness as they were trying to

577
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.359
<v Speaker 2>fight the monsters. But I just, man, the first half

578
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>was so good. I wish the whole thing had held up.

579
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:19.559
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so I walked out. Haven't told too many

580
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:22.480
<v Speaker 2>people about it till now I'm spilling my guts. I

581
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 2>went saw minions and monsters, and that was my experience

582
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 2>with it.

583
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad you feel comfortable sharing.

584
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:31.839
<v Speaker 2>What is it with your kids? I mean, do they

585
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.440
<v Speaker 2>like the Minions movies or Despicable of Me movies or

586
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>do you guys watch them?

587
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, I've watched the last few because I

588
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>reviewed them, not this one. I had I been assigned

589
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to review it, I would have watched it, but I

590
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't sad not to get not to catch the assignment.

591
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, sure, sure my kids have watched them. All.

592
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>But honestly, it's like in one eyeball out the other.

593
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 2>That that's the thing. I mean, even when we were

594
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 2>talking about to Story and Toy Story five in particular, like, look,

595
00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 2>is that movie, as you know, incredible masterpiece like maybe

596
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:15.279
<v Speaker 2>the first three maybe not, yeah, you know, but still

597
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 2>watching that movie. I even as I was watching it,

598
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:22.839
<v Speaker 2>I was like, nobody can is touching what Pixar is touching.

599
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Even when they're making a movie that isn't as good

600
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:28.200
<v Speaker 2>as the movies that came before, they just take these chances.

601
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 2>They're not worried about potentially losing an audience because they

602
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.519
<v Speaker 2>are so confident in themselves. They're like, no, even if

603
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.039
<v Speaker 2>we slow down for a minute, you're gonna care. Yeah,

604
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.079
<v Speaker 2>we won't lose you. Whereas I think the Minions they're

605
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 2>a little worried about losing kids, so they just go,

606
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, full ham by the end. So I appreciate

607
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 2>that Pixar can do that thing. But yes, Minions is

608
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 2>completely in one ear out the other, maybe even as

609
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 2>you're watching it.

610
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So would you say that this is this is

611
00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:57.839
<v Speaker 1>the same.

612
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, I haven't. That's the thing too. I find them amusing.

613
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:06.240
<v Speaker 2>I think in doses I did. I remember I got

614
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.279
<v Speaker 2>a screener for one of them once, like for free

615
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.200
<v Speaker 2>in my house. So I was like, all right, I'll

616
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 2>put it on even while I'm doing stuff. And I

617
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 2>lost interest while I was watching it. I think it

618
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 2>was this particular story because I found the one creative

619
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>character very endearing and very sweet, and I loved his

620
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:23.079
<v Speaker 2>ambition and his desire to tell stories. I thought it

621
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 2>was very sweet. And his friend who supported him, I

622
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 2>found their relationship very sweet. And so I would say,

623
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>once this is on Peacock eventually, if that sounds interesting

624
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>at all, watch the first forty five minutes. You might

625
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>enjoy it, and then you can decide if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to stick around for the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, well very cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wouldn't call them an obsession of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's good. My pad of one with the transition,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not there yet, but I like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to learn so fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, someday I'll be able to leap as high

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<v Speaker 2>as you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did finally watch Obsession, Yes, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>been meaning to for a while, but specifically before Evil Dead.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to watch it just so that I could

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no no no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm sorry, but I gotta This was just a

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<v Speaker 2>preview of a bonus conversation Zakie and I had where

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<v Speaker 2>we caught up on things we've been watching, including the

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<v Speaker 2>movie Obsession, which I gave a spoiler free take on

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<v Speaker 2>a few episodes ago, but Zachie recently saw it for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time, so we were able to go into

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<v Speaker 2>a full blown, spoiler filled review that's a little over

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<v Speaker 2>forty minutes long. If you want to hear the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of that conversation, head over to patreon dot com slash

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