Speaker 1: Bonus.
Speaker 2: So I got this.
Speaker 1: So as as I was logging into my computer, this
Speaker 1: push notification comes up from from the news app and
Speaker 1: it's a and I admittedly I haven't clicked on it,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a New Yorker article that that says
Speaker 1: the ethical implications of reclining your airplane seat?
Speaker 2: Right, And okay, again.
Speaker 1: I have not clicked on the link, so I want
Speaker 1: to be you know, but I was thinking about how,
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't used to be an ethical issue.
Speaker 1: You just used to be able to recline your seat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Why is that?
Speaker 1: Because the airplanes made enough room available for someone to
Speaker 1: be able to recline their seat and not have it
Speaker 1: impinge on the person behind them. Yes, right, yes, And
Speaker 1: so these airlines are like, well, let's just cram more
Speaker 1: people in here, like like like abused sard and then
Speaker 1: make them feel like shit for wanting just like a
Speaker 1: modicum of comfort in this flying I was gonna say bus,
Speaker 1: but actually that does a disservice to buses. Buses allow
Speaker 1: a little bit more personal space than what we get
Speaker 1: on most economy airlines.
Speaker 2: Yes, and do you imagine that someone said, well, now
Speaker 2: that they're cramped so tight, maybe we should remove the
Speaker 2: reclining function because that will put the back of the
Speaker 2: seat in the person behind them's face. And you have
Speaker 2: to imagine they were like, no, no, no, no, we can't
Speaker 2: get If we take that away, they'll feel like they're
Speaker 2: getting less value, and then they will riot.
Speaker 1: Let's give them a half inch of give and act
Speaker 1: like we're doing them a favor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so true. And it's funny because when the
Speaker 2: seat does come into my face, and now that they
Speaker 2: most of the airlines have screens there now now yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's just like whom you know, coming right at
Speaker 2: my fam I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa, Okay, like this
Speaker 2: is a new dynamic or there's something on the little
Speaker 2: table in front of me that now I mean, my
Speaker 2: coke could get knocked over, yeah, if I have it
Speaker 2: in the wrong spot right, And so that's annoying. But
Speaker 2: I also have enough, I think awareness to not be
Speaker 2: mad at the person because they're not doing anything wrong.
Speaker 2: But it's still annoying. And then when I reclined my seat,
Speaker 2: I am thinking sorry, you know, as I'm like going back,
Speaker 2: You're right, they're putting it on us. Why are they
Speaker 2: putting on us. Why is that our problem?
Speaker 1: You know, I was saying. I was thinking about how
Speaker 1: as as movie theater seats have gotten more comfortable, Like
Speaker 1: you can lie horizontally at this point.
Speaker 2: You can. You can go to bed if you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, airplane seats have gotten more you know. Just I
Speaker 1: mean I saw a thing that was it was like
Speaker 1: a proposed way of squeezing in more economy seats and
Speaker 1: it's basically standing. It's it's basically it's a glorified standing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like there's like a sop
Speaker 1: to leaning.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure, And I'm like, what kind of fricking Logan's run? Weird?
Speaker 1: You know, Edge of Tomorrow Future? Are we trapped in?
Speaker 1: At this point?
Speaker 2: Wasn't there another thing that was proposed? I don't remember
Speaker 2: if this is satire or real, which is like speaks
Speaker 2: to our times, but like they were gonna like do tears, yes, right, yes,
Speaker 2: of seating and airplanes yeah, and so it was like weird,
Speaker 2: like you would be have someone's feet in your face
Speaker 2: basically who is like right behind you or just so
Speaker 2: they could fit more people into the plane.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's one of those things where I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just everything they're doing to try to squeeze more
Speaker 1: money out of it is making me want to fly
Speaker 1: less and less.
Speaker 2: I know, and sorry, I got up to shut my window.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'll cut this out. But you know what,
Speaker 2: screw that. This is We're getting real. This is real
Speaker 2: talk here. And I realized that I normally I don't
Speaker 2: have my window open, but it was open, and like
Speaker 2: all the sounds of the outside were coming in. I
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, this isn't gonna work.
Speaker 1: I think your neighborhood needs to hear you bitching about Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think? You need to stick your head out.
Speaker 2: You need to be like network. You know, that would
Speaker 2: actually be funny if I was like, what do you
Speaker 2: think and some guy walking his dogs like about what
Speaker 2: I was like about airlines and like the crappy seating
Speaker 2: all that sucks? Man, right, take care you know? But no, shoot,
Speaker 2: I do not want to get off topic of what
Speaker 2: you just said, because I am so on board with
Speaker 2: everything you're talking about. What are we saying just airlines? Yeah,
Speaker 2: the staggering that sucks anyway, But that is funny because I.
Speaker 1: Don't know what point now. Sorry, We're at a point
Speaker 1: now where if you want to have a decent experience.
Speaker 1: The decent quote unquote experience doesn't exist anymore. So there's
Speaker 1: like the insanely rich people experience. Sure, yes, and then
Speaker 1: there is steerage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Titanic all over.
Speaker 1: Yes, So we're just chilling with Fabrizio and that and
Speaker 1: that Scottish guy. Yeah, yeah, I hope and you know,
Speaker 1: a steam pipe doesn't fall on us.
Speaker 2: I remember, now, okay, And yes, prices are going up,
Speaker 2: which is not making me feel better about like the
Speaker 2: less desirable conditions. And also you know now all the
Speaker 2: airlines charge for you to check in luggage, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: so that makes me want to do the luggage that
Speaker 2: fits that you can put overhead, right, you know, like
Speaker 2: the smaller suitcase. But the thing is the planes aren't
Speaker 2: equipped to hold that many carry on suitcases, right, so
Speaker 2: you if you have like a and that's the other thing.
Speaker 2: When you're check it just keeps like compounding. And then
Speaker 2: when you want to check in, even if you check
Speaker 2: in right at the time they tell you to check,
Speaker 2: by the second, you are still somehow in group G
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So that means you're gonna
Speaker 2: go in like next to last with your carry on
Speaker 2: suitcase that you know isn't gonna fit, so you have
Speaker 2: to walk all the way to the back of the
Speaker 2: plane to your seat to see that there's no room left.
Speaker 2: So you have to go all the way to the
Speaker 2: front of the plane and fight all the people who
Speaker 2: are coming onto the plane now just to tell the
Speaker 2: flight attendant that there's no space for your bag so
Speaker 2: they have to check it anyway.
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, I mean it, it's it is fascinating because
Speaker 1: the only thing that makes it make sense is when
Speaker 1: you realize that customer service is not actually the goal,
Speaker 1: right yeah, right, Like it's just that that left uh
Speaker 1: you know the hangar a long time ago. That's good.
Speaker 1: It's just like, how do we squeeze as much value
Speaker 1: for shareholders out of this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it.
Speaker 1: Makes the whole experience work.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: That was just my series of thoughts when I saw
Speaker 1: this thing about what's the ethical responsibility? I'm like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is me. This is crazy talk from Zaki. I
Speaker 1: want to go back to the days when leaning your
Speaker 1: seatback was not an ethical choice that you had to make, right.
Speaker 1: I miss when it wasn't an ethical choice, it was
Speaker 1: just an.
Speaker 2: Option that you had. Me too, man, take me back.
Speaker 1: I'm Zachiissan. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or should be like, yeah, yeah, that's the way
Speaker 2: I see it. That should be like your new segment,
Speaker 2: I'm zach Uisan and that's the way I see it,
Speaker 2: the way things ought to be.
Speaker 1: That's right. That was the title of Rush Limbaugh's book.
Speaker 2: Oh. I was like, yeah, that was somewhere in my brain.
Speaker 1: I remember reading that in junior high and being like,
Speaker 1: this guy is so smart. That's what a freaking goddamn
Speaker 1: dumbass that was, you might say. You might say I
Speaker 1: was obsessed with Russe Limbaugh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what oh oh, so you find yourself drawn
Speaker 2: to obsessions.
Speaker 1: So I didn't realize it until this past week, and
Speaker 1: then suddenly, suddenly the threads started tying together. I did
Speaker 1: just see obsession finally.
Speaker 2: You know what. Okay, here's here's what I'm thinking. There's
Speaker 2: a couple movies I'd like to talk about very briefly,
Speaker 2: and I think I would like to save Obsession for last,
Speaker 2: because I want to hear your fully spoiler free, like, okay,
Speaker 2: let's get into a take. Is that okay? Like I
Speaker 2: kind of make that the main review of this if
Speaker 2: that's okay. Absolutely, And for people who are listening right
Speaker 2: now so they know the movie.
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this, this is the bonus show.
Speaker 1: You're one of our obsessives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so absolutely, and we are with us and we're
Speaker 2: obsessed with you. Like, let's obsess together.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and Obsession debuts on Peacock on July seventeenth.
Speaker 2: What does it really me? Up? Very shortly, so this
Speaker 2: is actually perfectly timed. So yeah, and I look forward
Speaker 2: to talking about that. But I think you had another movie.
Speaker 2: I have, like maybe one or two I was gonna
Speaker 2: talk about real Quie.
Speaker 1: I just saw Evil Dead Burne tell me about it. Well,
Speaker 1: I know you're the one to talk to about horror, Brian.
Speaker 2: You're like the apparently I don't know what's happened to me,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Well, so this is the sixth Evil Dead movie overall
Speaker 1: since since nineteen eighty one. Okay, okay, right, first three
Speaker 1: we're by Sam Ramy and then and then we got
Speaker 1: there was like a reboot in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: Right, So, I mean, and for people who aren't aware
Speaker 2: of this series, I mean, there's a real The first
Speaker 2: three movies have a real authorship feeling to them, right,
Speaker 2: Like these are sam Remi movies. His sensibility, his humor,
Speaker 2: he's creating them. It's very much like a Sam Raimi
Speaker 2: feeling experience. But then yes, they made like a new
Speaker 2: one in twenty thirteen, which he might have produced or something, right,
Speaker 2: but he's a pe on.
Speaker 1: All of them, along with Robert Tapert and Bruce Campbell
Speaker 1: is one of one of the producers too, which is
Speaker 1: I'm glad he gets a piece.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Fida Alvarez did the one from ten years
Speaker 1: ago or from thirteen years ago. He did Alien Romulus
Speaker 1: a couple of years back, and then Alien or Evil Dead,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what was it called Rise, Evil
Speaker 1: Dead Rise. That was twenty twenty three. That was Lee Cronin,
Speaker 1: who just had the New Mummy movie, which is not
Speaker 1: to be confused with the other the Universal Mummy.
Speaker 2: Right right, which is probably why they call it.
Speaker 1: Lee Cronin's exactly like the name is supposed to mean something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or I mean typically right, But I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people were like who. I think it's
Speaker 2: definitely the reason they did that was so people would
Speaker 2: know they're not getting into a Brendan Fraser Mummy movie,
Speaker 2: which kind of puts an unfair sort of thing on
Speaker 2: Lee Cronin, like I didn't ask for them to put
Speaker 2: my name there, you know, I know that's right.
Speaker 1: And then this new one is an evil dead burn okay,
Speaker 1: and it is what it is, more of the same,
Speaker 1: So it's I almost It's directed by a French dick
Speaker 1: named Sebastian vanu Check, and I noted in my review
Speaker 1: that I think he's very skilled at directing. He stages
Speaker 1: scenes in interesting ways. You know. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: like overhead shots that I really liked, where you're getting
Speaker 1: the full geography of a scene from above, Like like
Speaker 1: there's a there's a car wine going down this long
Speaker 1: stretch of road, and the cameras play it's like a
Speaker 1: helicopter shot way up and so you see it from
Speaker 1: a distance as it as it koreem's off the road,
Speaker 1: and I just I just loved that. You know, so
Speaker 1: you're experiencing this crash at a at a distance, but
Speaker 1: it almost feels more real as a result, you know.
Speaker 2: Right, like you're witnessing something yeah maybe yeah.
Speaker 1: And then there's like there's a great wonder where you
Speaker 1: have a character on a ground as just absolute chaos,
Speaker 1: and you know, dead eye Mayhem is is erupting around them,
Speaker 1: which I thought was very effective. I think this is
Speaker 1: it's like gory as hell, and that this is one
Speaker 1: of those things where anybody listening, especially if you're subscriber
Speaker 1: to the Patreon, you know. I mean, I'm certainly not
Speaker 1: a fan of gratuitous gore. I know, I know you're
Speaker 1: not either.
Speaker 2: I think that type of horror is what kept me
Speaker 2: away from the genre for so long. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean this is kind of a splatter film, right, I
Speaker 2: mean it like revels in its liquids fluid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of a lot of goo and ooze.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Right. If you're not a fan of a hooks in
Speaker 1: eyes and uh, you know, fountain pens jabbed into ears,
Speaker 1: this might not be your ball of axe, you know.
Speaker 2: Not for me, Not for me.
Speaker 1: So I was literally watching much of it through squinted eyes.
Speaker 1: You know, I was like deliberately blurring my vision, or
Speaker 1: I guess in my particular sense. You know, I still
Speaker 1: need cataract surgery on my right eye, so I just
Speaker 1: closed my left eye. I let the cataract eye do
Speaker 1: the lifting.
Speaker 2: May As well, make it useful for something.
Speaker 1: Gets amuse from it right now, So I admire the
Speaker 1: craft and I can say, well, if if this is
Speaker 1: what you like, I mean, you're getting what's on the tin.
Speaker 1: But man, it's rough. I don't know, I'm just ah,
Speaker 1: I find it very cruel, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you were describing perfectly. Yeah, the type
Speaker 2: of four I don't really like and why I didn't
Speaker 2: watch a lot of movies because I felt like, for
Speaker 2: you know, growing up, it was a lot of like
Speaker 2: slasher stuff, which I don't really connect with. And then
Speaker 2: I think in the two thousands there was sort of
Speaker 2: the saw hostile sort of you know, misery, torture sort
Speaker 2: of horror. And I think the reason I've been enjoying
Speaker 2: it more is because it's been a little bit more
Speaker 2: story character driven, and there just happens to be horrifying
Speaker 2: elements involved, and so there's more for me to attach
Speaker 2: myself to, like dramatically, character wise, and so I've been
Speaker 2: enduring some of the you know, horror elements because the
Speaker 2: stories have been so strong. But this sounds like something
Speaker 2: where it's like, now you're going for the experience to
Speaker 2: see how gross, how gross can we get it sounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely that, you know. I I I think
Speaker 1: what I realized is is the original three Evil Dead
Speaker 1: film what I've seen all of them, and you watch
Speaker 1: the first film now and you're like, man, this is
Speaker 1: this is Sam Raimi cutting his teeth, you know, and
Speaker 1: then the second one you're like, Okay, this is this
Speaker 1: is this is Sam Raymi. This is to Sam Ramy.
Speaker 1: What you know, The Road Warrior is to George Miller,
Speaker 1: you know, bigger budget to make the movie really wanted
Speaker 1: to make. And then and the third one it well,
Speaker 1: the third one is to to Sam Ramy what Mad
Speaker 1: Max Beyond Thunderdome is to George Miller.
Speaker 2: I guess, Okay, put.
Speaker 1: Some studio money into it, and now you know it's
Speaker 1: more of a mainstream movie, right, And so I appreciate
Speaker 1: each of those on that level. Of the three, I
Speaker 1: think the one that's most rewatchable for me for me
Speaker 1: is Army of Darkness.
Speaker 2: So so this is kind of comedy, like right, there's
Speaker 2: it's yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's it's yeah.
Speaker 1: I would call it a horror comedy. I mean it's something,
Speaker 1: it's it's in the vein of Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2: For me, you know, yeah, like there's monsters doing three
Speaker 2: Stooges routines with our hero, right, yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and so you know these other ones, I mean,
Speaker 1: I I well, shoot, you know, now that I think
Speaker 1: about it, I don't think I've seen the Fadee Alvarez one,
Speaker 1: or if I have, I don't remember it. But you know,
Speaker 1: I saw Rise a few years ago and I wasn't
Speaker 1: crazy about that either. I just found it very cruel,
Speaker 1: you know. And this one, I mean it, I think
Speaker 1: the craft elevates it slightly. I do think it's well made,
Speaker 1: but not my tempo.
Speaker 2: Not your tempo. Yeah, I got it, I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And I think that's anyone listening probably knows from what
Speaker 2: you just said if it is or isn't there so.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you. I mean, they spent like twenty
Speaker 1: million on it, they're gonna turn a profit, and they've
Speaker 1: already got the next one like shot and ready to go.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, yeah yeah, like I believe that's coming
Speaker 1: up next early next year.
Speaker 2: It feels like it's been happening more often. I remember
Speaker 2: with the twenty eight years later thing right where they
Speaker 2: had the two basically in the can then they put
Speaker 2: one out at the end of one year and the
Speaker 2: next one out. It's interesting investing investing in their ips.
Speaker 1: I guess spend less make more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, yeah you could. I don't know about
Speaker 2: these two movies, but now that I think about with
Speaker 2: twenty eight years later, you have some of the same actors,
Speaker 2: you have some of the same sets, So you're using
Speaker 2: the same sets for two movies makes a lot of sense. Yep,
Speaker 2: will I Well, speaking of spending economically and sequels, I
Speaker 2: saw Jackass Best and Last, Yeah, which there's not a
Speaker 2: whole lot I can say about this, Like I think
Speaker 2: people already know their relationship to the Jackass series, whether
Speaker 2: it's oh, I got to see that or I am
Speaker 2: never going to watch that in my life. And I say,
Speaker 2: you know, economic because this is being sold as their
Speaker 2: last film, but it is also the greatest Hits movie,
Speaker 2: So half of it is new material where they're older
Speaker 2: now and they're doing a couple more stunts and kind
Speaker 2: of saying goodbye and getting a little teary about it occasionally,
Speaker 2: but they are also showing like the best of from
Speaker 2: the TV show, from the films, and yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: me and my buddy Michael went and saw it and like,
Speaker 2: we had a great time. It's funny because I think
Speaker 2: I had I've I never thought I was going to
Speaker 2: be a Jackass person. I didn't watch the TV show.
Speaker 2: When I was in college, someone rented the first Jackass
Speaker 2: movie and I was like, seriously, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: a thing. And then I watched it and I just
Speaker 2: laughed with tears in my eyes. And I had no
Speaker 2: idea that I would find it so funny. And I
Speaker 2: think it is absolutely stupid with a capital S. But
Speaker 2: I think what makes it so appealing is these guys
Speaker 2: are buddies, and they are just they're in on the
Speaker 2: joke together, sure, and watching them do stupid things and cackle,
Speaker 2: just fall over cackling with one another, sometimes at one another,
Speaker 2: but mostly with one another, there's just something infectious about it,
Speaker 2: you know. And then over the years the stunts got
Speaker 2: more and more elaborate, and the You're like, I would
Speaker 2: like to sheet see Johnny Knoxville tape himself to a
Speaker 2: rocket and get fired into the air, you know, like
Speaker 2: what would happen? So then you're in on the joke
Speaker 2: with them, and so I have enjoyed them and this
Speaker 2: one I did enjoy, and actually I left with my
Speaker 2: face kind of hurting from smiling so much. But I
Speaker 2: also feel like it didn't feel it didn't have me
Speaker 2: as much as some of the others, because half of
Speaker 2: them are stunts I had seen before. So I think
Speaker 2: part of the fun of these movies is seeing something
Speaker 2: them presenting something where you go, oh, no, what is
Speaker 2: what is gonna happen now? But with half of these,
Speaker 2: I had seen them already, so you don't have that fresh,
Speaker 2: giddy thrill, okay, although you are still laughing remembering, Oh
Speaker 2: I remember this one. Yes, yes, this you know that
Speaker 2: kind of thing. And I think this one also leaned
Speaker 2: a little bit more into the gross kind of arena
Speaker 2: than I love, you know where it's more speaking of
Speaker 2: fluids and goose, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Are there any fountain pens being jammed anywhere?
Speaker 2: No, thank god, but like there is pooh and yeah,
Speaker 2: I can endure a little bit of that stuff. But
Speaker 2: it just it felt like this one leaned into it
Speaker 2: more than I remember some of the other ones, And
Speaker 2: I was like, ugh, So I found myself doing that,
Speaker 2: like you said, blurring my vision a little bit, and
Speaker 2: kind of I don't need this in my life. And
Speaker 2: at the same time, I like, I said, my face
Speaker 2: hurt from smiling, and so, you know, definitely for the initiated.
Speaker 2: In the in fans of the series, there was a moment. Actually,
Speaker 2: I hope Michael doesn't mind me sharing this, but it
Speaker 2: was so funny. There's a moment where Steve O is
Speaker 2: completely butt naked, okay, and he puts a ping pong
Speaker 2: ball in his mouth, and then he sits down on
Speaker 2: this table and he shoots a ping pong ball out
Speaker 2: of his butt, like trying to pretend like it had
Speaker 2: gone through his whole body. And it was so gross
Speaker 2: and weird and like you can't just the bass instincts
Speaker 2: in you are like, that's hilarious, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 2: and it's funny because then this ping pong ball shoots
Speaker 2: out of his butt. And then Michael like turned to
Speaker 2: me and he's like, I just feel like we have
Speaker 2: bonded on another level now we have gone through this together.
Speaker 2: I was like, you're totally right, You're totally right witnessing
Speaker 2: that together. So anyway, you know, it was funny. Though,
Speaker 2: just out of curiosity, I looked it up and this
Speaker 2: movie has an eighty nine percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Wow,
Speaker 2: And I was like, that is fascinating because, as you so,
Speaker 2: I googled it, the first movie has a forty nine percent.
Speaker 2: Second one has sixty six, three, sixty seven, four eighty
Speaker 2: you know, five eighty six, this one eighty nine. It's
Speaker 2: amazing to me that it feels like people are sort
Speaker 2: of like I kind of get this now, like maybe
Speaker 2: there is something kind of weirdly comforting about watching these people.
Speaker 1: Well well the first one was what like two thousand
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, yeah, so I mean you you can
Speaker 1: you can just picture it like the generation of critics.
Speaker 2: Well that's a good point movie, right.
Speaker 1: Like you're you're Ebert and your Gene Shalett and r whatnot.
Speaker 2: That's a great You're you're totally right, You're totally right,
Speaker 2: and like I don't get this. Yeah, and I I
Speaker 2: anyone who thinks this is ridiculous and is like I
Speaker 2: I that is stupid, and like you can't even convince
Speaker 2: me you know otherwise you're right, you're right, But for
Speaker 2: some reason they're is something once you get to know
Speaker 2: the characters and watching them do all this stuff together
Speaker 2: and just falling over laughing with one another. It's like
Speaker 2: I said, it's infectious.
Speaker 1: Plus I think it now is as good a time
Speaker 1: as any to stop.
Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent. I mean these guys.
Speaker 1: I saw the shock of white hair on Johnny Knoxville's head, yes,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, God, is watching this? Is
Speaker 1: it gonna be like watching Indian Dial of Destiny where
Speaker 1: you're like, ooh ah.
Speaker 2: Well, they show a stunt. I think it's from the
Speaker 2: previous one where Knoxville gets into a ring with a bull. Okay,
Speaker 2: and the bull it's a bull. The bull just he's
Speaker 2: standing there and the bull just charges him and he flips.
Speaker 2: He does like a three sixty in the air and
Speaker 2: then lands, and it's funny because he looks like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: did we get the shot? And they're like kinda, and
Speaker 2: he's like okay, And then he gets up and he
Speaker 2: does it again.
Speaker 1: It's dedication.
Speaker 2: It's dedication. And then this time it gets an even
Speaker 2: better you know, flip out of him and then it
Speaker 2: cuts to him with it. You know, he's on a stretcher,
Speaker 2: his head is fixed to the stretcher because he has
Speaker 2: a concussion, and you're like, look, God, bless you dude.
Speaker 2: That was amazing, Like I was entertained. Yeah, but please
Speaker 2: don't die like you know. So yeah, yeah, it's it's good.
Speaker 2: It's good that maybe they're stepping away. Now, one more
Speaker 2: movie I'll talk about, and then I'm looking forward to
Speaker 2: talking about Obsession. Actually there's another movie that I'm going
Speaker 2: to save for the next full episode, but I will
Speaker 2: throw out that I watched it just in case anyone
Speaker 2: wants to watch it and then hear me talk about
Speaker 2: it a little bit and if you're interested, you can
Speaker 2: check it out. I watched How to Make a Killing.
Speaker 1: Ah, yes, yeah, I mean I was watching that just
Speaker 1: last night. Oh.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I wonder if you two would
Speaker 2: enjoy watching that together. It's a Glenn Powell movie, and I.
Speaker 1: Will say that's why she's watching. Well, I was.
Speaker 2: Gonna say, obligatory, is Glenn paalll a star? The movie started,
Speaker 2: and I did, I don't know. I had experience this
Speaker 2: with every Glenn Powell movie, where I'm like, I don't know, Glenn,
Speaker 2: pal are you a star? And then when the movie ends,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I like that guy. That's the roller coaster
Speaker 2: I go on with him. Every single movie. This movie
Speaker 2: comes from John Patton Ford, who previously did Emily the
Speaker 2: Criminal with Aubrey Plaza, which is a movie I really liked.
Speaker 2: I will just say it's about a guy. He's sort
Speaker 2: of disowned at birth by a wealthy family. His mom
Speaker 2: is sort of the black sheep of this wealthy family,
Speaker 2: and then things happen and he, you know, they don't
Speaker 2: treat him or his mother very well, and he realizes, wow,
Speaker 2: I could get this inheritance if all these people died.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, maybe I could kill them, which is
Speaker 2: a very dark premise, and I'll talk more about it.
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying it's if you want to check
Speaker 2: it out, It's on HBO Max. That's how I watched
Speaker 2: it last night because I was like, I don't use
Speaker 2: this app very much and I am paying for it,
Speaker 2: so what's on here? And it made for good Friday
Speaker 2: night viewing. But it is a little dark. So I'll
Speaker 2: talk about it more in the full episode, but if
Speaker 2: anyone's interested in checking it out, I wanted to throw
Speaker 2: that out there. I'll talk about that soon. But I've
Speaker 2: talked about one movie, Zachi, and I'm realizing I might
Speaker 2: be the only person in my life who doesn't hate
Speaker 2: the Minions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. Well, you know, I know that
Speaker 1: people subscribe to the patreon' that's what they're paying for
Speaker 1: to hear you talk about minions.
Speaker 2: So this trailer has been playing in front of almost
Speaker 2: every movie I've seen for the past couple months, and
Speaker 2: every time, no matter who I'm with, they're always like, ugh,
Speaker 2: you know. And I don't think Chad would mind me
Speaker 2: saying He's just like, I don't get it. I don't
Speaker 2: get it. It's not like who likes this. And I'm
Speaker 2: sitting there like stifling laughter at their goofy antics. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So Minions and Monsters comes out over July fourth Holiday,
Speaker 2: and here's the thing I learned what the plot is.
Speaker 2: The plot is, basically, these are not the typical minions
Speaker 2: we've been following. These are minions in the early nineteen
Speaker 2: twenties or thirties or whatever it is, and they go
Speaker 2: to Hollywood and it's the minions in old Hollywood, and
Speaker 2: there's satire of all or parodies more like of all
Speaker 2: these like Citizen Kane and all these you know, old
Speaker 2: Hollywood films, and it's about them working in the industry.
Speaker 2: So no grow in this one, No grow and first
Speaker 2: of all, I was like, that sounds kind of my alley.
Speaker 2: I heard that George Lucas does a cameo in this.
Speaker 2: I was like, what does that look like? And I
Speaker 2: saw it was actually getting good reviews. This is the
Speaker 2: first Minions movie to actually get good reviews. I think
Speaker 2: it's in the eighties somewhere and so under cover of darkness,
Speaker 2: not telling anyone in my life. I put it on
Speaker 2: a fedora. I was like Rafael in the first Ninja
Speaker 2: Turtles movie. I put on a trench coat and fedora
Speaker 2: and I went to the movies and bought a ticket,
Speaker 2: hoping no one would see me, and I went and
Speaker 2: saw Minions and monsters on my own Zachi. I left.
Speaker 2: I laughed. I I here's the thing. The first half
Speaker 2: of this movie I loved, and it literally is them
Speaker 2: accidentally stumbling into Hollywood. Actually, I'll go back a little
Speaker 2: bit further. It shows them throughout history. Their whole shtick
Speaker 2: is they are minions to bad guys throughout history, right,
Speaker 2: and so they're always looking for a bad guy that
Speaker 2: they can work for. But while they're on this boat,
Speaker 2: you know, and all the minions are working the oars
Speaker 2: and another minions working the drum, you know, like ben
Speaker 2: Hurst style. There's one minion who's sitting with a drawing
Speaker 2: pad and he's drawing the guy doing the orders, and
Speaker 2: he's coming up with these funny scenarios about what could happen,
Speaker 2: what's something funny that could happen right now on this boat?
Speaker 2: And then this other mini and his friend like looks
Speaker 2: and is like that's funny, you know, and like and
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, really, you like my creative ideas, And
Speaker 2: they become this cute little duo where the one guy
Speaker 2: is this creative person coming up with these funny scenarios
Speaker 2: and drawing him and his best friend laughs and none
Speaker 2: of the other minions are amused or find it funny.
Speaker 2: And so basically, through a crazy mishap, they wind up
Speaker 2: in Hollywood, and this creative minion is like, WHOA like
Speaker 2: you tell stories here? Like I like to tell stories.
Speaker 2: And so he develops a relationship with this director and
Speaker 2: he directs all these movies and uses the minions as characters.
Speaker 2: And they work perfectly in the silent film era, right
Speaker 2: they because that's basically what they are. They're like Buster
Speaker 2: Keaton's and Charlie Chaplin's doing this goofy physical comedy and
Speaker 2: reacting to everything around them, and they literally do then
Speaker 2: get in you know, parodies of Citizen Kane, which made
Speaker 2: me laugh out loud and all these other films, and
Speaker 2: then what happen is the advent of sound and they
Speaker 2: don't speak English, and so everyone's like, what, like, these
Speaker 2: guys are here and they're speaking gibberish and we don't want
Speaker 2: to watch them anymore and it makes them really sad,
Speaker 2: and so then he you know, then the plot goes
Speaker 2: into whole like, let's conjure monsters from another dimensions so
Speaker 2: we can make a monster movie and and you know,
Speaker 2: we'll have our comeback. And that was kind of where
Speaker 2: the movie started to lose me, because then it just
Speaker 2: went into kind of crazy, chaotic, you know fashion, where
Speaker 2: I was like not finding it as witty. So I
Speaker 2: first half of this movie I actually genuinely liked, and
Speaker 2: I get why the critics enjoyed it. And if you
Speaker 2: think the minions are funny, you know, you're already in
Speaker 2: the bag for them, and they're antics and people who
Speaker 2: enjoy old Hollywood stuff might enjoy the first forty five
Speaker 2: fifty minutes of the movie. But then it does descend
Speaker 2: into the thing that I think most people just are like,
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. This is not for me. This
Speaker 2: is just chaos and silliness and there's no there there
Speaker 2: for me. And so sadly, I was like, oh man,
Speaker 2: this movie is so close to being great like and
Speaker 2: it just was like, oh okay, and I enjoyed seeing
Speaker 2: them do their their goofiness as they were trying to
Speaker 2: fight the monsters. But I just, man, the first half
Speaker 2: was so good. I wish the whole thing had held up.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so I walked out. Haven't told too many
Speaker 2: people about it till now I'm spilling my guts. I
Speaker 2: went saw minions and monsters, and that was my experience
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you feel comfortable sharing.
Speaker 2: What is it with your kids? I mean, do they
Speaker 2: like the Minions movies or Despicable of Me movies or
Speaker 2: do you guys watch them?
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I've watched the last few because I
Speaker 1: reviewed them, not this one. I had I been assigned
Speaker 1: to review it, I would have watched it, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't sad not to get not to catch the assignment.
Speaker 1: You know, sure, sure my kids have watched them. All.
Speaker 1: But honestly, it's like in one eyeball out the other.
Speaker 2: That that's the thing. I mean, even when we were
Speaker 2: talking about to Story and Toy Story five in particular, like, look,
Speaker 2: is that movie, as you know, incredible masterpiece like maybe
Speaker 2: the first three maybe not, yeah, you know, but still
Speaker 2: watching that movie. I even as I was watching it,
Speaker 2: I was like, nobody can is touching what Pixar is touching.
Speaker 2: Even when they're making a movie that isn't as good
Speaker 2: as the movies that came before, they just take these chances.
Speaker 2: They're not worried about potentially losing an audience because they
Speaker 2: are so confident in themselves. They're like, no, even if
Speaker 2: we slow down for a minute, you're gonna care. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we won't lose you. Whereas I think the Minions they're
Speaker 2: a little worried about losing kids, so they just go,
Speaker 2: you know, full ham by the end. So I appreciate
Speaker 2: that Pixar can do that thing. But yes, Minions is
Speaker 2: completely in one ear out the other, maybe even as
Speaker 2: you're watching it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So would you say that this is this is
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't. That's the thing too. I find them amusing.
Speaker 2: I think in doses I did. I remember I got
Speaker 2: a screener for one of them once, like for free
Speaker 2: in my house. So I was like, all right, I'll
Speaker 2: put it on even while I'm doing stuff. And I
Speaker 2: lost interest while I was watching it. I think it
Speaker 2: was this particular story because I found the one creative
Speaker 2: character very endearing and very sweet, and I loved his
Speaker 2: ambition and his desire to tell stories. I thought it
Speaker 2: was very sweet. And his friend who supported him, I
Speaker 2: found their relationship very sweet. And so I would say,
Speaker 2: once this is on Peacock eventually, if that sounds interesting
Speaker 2: at all, watch the first forty five minutes. You might
Speaker 2: enjoy it, and then you can decide if you want
Speaker 2: to stick around for the rest.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well very cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't call them an obsession of mine.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's good. My pad of one with the transition,
Speaker 1: I am not there yet, but I like, I want
Speaker 1: to learn so fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, someday I'll be able to leap as high
Speaker 2: as you.
Speaker 1: So I did finally watch Obsession, Yes, and I had
Speaker 1: been meaning to for a while, but specifically before Evil Dead.
Speaker 1: I wanted to watch it just so that I could
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, but I gotta This was just a
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