WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:09.400 Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bubo. These guys 2 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.240 are your favorites, so like to subscribe and raid it. 3 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:21.399 Live stock and me righteous on Yesterday and listening watching 4 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:28.879 always keep its watching. And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman 5 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:30.399 and James Boobo Fay. 6 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:34.039 Greetings earthlings and Bobo. How you doing pretty good? 7 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:34.600 Pretty good? 8 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:39.960 And I'm a nursling too, only temporarily right, take me 9 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:41.280 to your leader, Bobes. What's happening? 10 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:44.359 Not much, just I got some good weather down here. 11 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.960 It's pretty nice out, get a little out for work 12 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:50.039 for a minute or two and coming in for a 13 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:51.439 little podcast. 14 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:53.560 And excellent, excellent. You got to take advantage of the 15 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:56.000 weather and get outside and look for some sasquatch footprintcess 16 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:59.200 has been dumping rain for the for the past X 17 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.119 number of days. This is a great opportunity to do so. 18 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:04.200 I know Freeman found a lot of his footprints because 19 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:05.920 the snow melts and stuff. He tried to be the 20 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:09.200 first guy on a certain road after the snow is 21 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:11.159 melting and everything and just kind of walking and stuff. 22 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:13.560 This is the opportunity. So I'm trying to get out, 23 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:16.359 but having some trouble with my barn situation, getting the 24 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:18.200 roof back on it. But other than that, I'm going 25 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:19.400 to try to get down the woods as soon as 26 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:21.480 possible to walk these roads and look for prints. 27 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:24.879 That's quite a project, you get there, Cliff that roof. 28 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:27.959 Yeah, yeah, and they're they're yeah. A long story, man, 29 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:30.079 long story. There's just always something with this thing, you know, 30 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:33.239 construction is, you know, you like everything's in order, then 31 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.040 suddenly you run out of something. Everything's in you reorder that. 32 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:37.920 Then suddenly what turns out what you got is the 33 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:41.280 wrong size, and it's like, oh man, it's just brutal. Right, 34 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.159 but so far, so good. They were supposed to finish today, 35 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:46.239 but again, wrong size is something. So now I have 36 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:49.519 a seventy foot long, one foot wide hole in my roof. 37 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:52.840 The rain's coming in a couple of days, so we'll see, 38 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:55.159 we'll see what happens. Man. It's just always an adventure. 39 00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:58.040 Sounds like everything was fine when Bobo's trailer was in there. 40 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:01.239 Oh yeah, everything was always better when Bobo's trailer was there. 41 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:01.680 Yeah. 42 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:04.480 It was like a talisman that had a protective shield, 43 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.879 like a spell. It cast like a wide net of 44 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:09.639 protection over your outbuilding. 45 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:13.879 Unfortunately, Cliff has to learn the hard way. We all do. 46 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.240 I know, I know we all have to learn the 47 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:19.319 hard way. I'm a lifelong learner too, I'll tell you. 48 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:21.439 But you know, maybe we can do a little bit 49 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:23.080 of learning and teach them today too. It's a Q 50 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.159 and A today, of course, and all the questions are 51 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:27.840 submitted by you, the listeners. If you want to submit 52 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:29.759 a question, to hit that link that Matt Prude always 53 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:31.360 puts down in the show notes there, and you can 54 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:34.479 of course write as an email as many of you 55 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:37.800 have chosen to do. Or the cooler and more fun option, 56 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:41.039 perhaps maybe is to actually record a voicemail for us 57 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:43.520 asking your question. We have a couple of those today 58 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:44.280 as well. 59 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:45.000 Should we just. 60 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:45.759 Hop right into it? 61 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:48.120 We should? I want to throw a caveat in there 62 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:50.919 real quick, because we did get a couple of additional 63 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:55.439 voicemails that just the audio was very bad and haven't 64 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:57.639 really had that happen before. So I would just say 65 00:02:57.759 --> 00:02:59.719 to folks, if you're going to submit a voicemail, just 66 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:02.479 makes you're at home in a quiet room and not 67 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.280 like driving or with the TV on in the background 68 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:07.800 or something super noisy, because it does use your phone 69 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:10.479 mic and those are pretty sensitive, and so a couple 70 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:13.199 of them were just like unlistenable for all you would be. 71 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:15.800 Voicemail submitters go somewhere quiet. 72 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:18.199 You know who you are, whoever you are. 73 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:23.120 So anyway, here is the first voicemail. Hi Cliff, Hi Bobo. 74 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:26.800 This is Josh Kiltmaker, longtime fan of both of you 75 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:30.240 and your work. My question is a kind of a 76 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:34.840 comment that leads into a question. Over the past fifteen years, 77 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:40.080 we've seen a lot of projects, missions, and areas that 78 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:43.360 start off with a big bang, a lot of promising 79 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:50.319 reports and excitement surrounding them, i e. The Olympic Project 80 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:54.520 Area x, Melbo, Ketchem, et cetera, and they just kind 81 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:59.240 of sort of fade away and nothing ever is resolved 82 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:04.599 or achieved big moment. So my question is, is anything happening 83 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:08.479 now that you either of you know that might be 84 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:10.039 the winning ticket. 85 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:10.719 Yeah. 86 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.960 I appreciate your input and thank you so much for 87 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:14.719 your podcast. 88 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.839 Have a good one, guys. I say, first off, that 89 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:20.319 last name of kilt Maker. That's the best thing I've 90 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:22.279 heard in a long long time. That's awesome. 91 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:25.160 Yeah, I've never heard that last name before, but I 92 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:28.959 have been known to Donna kilt or two in my time, at. 93 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:33.160 Least one for sure. Some Yeah, you can ask this 94 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:35.800 question better the big clip because you're talking to Derby. 95 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:37.279 It's communication with him. 96 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:39.759 Yeah, I think Darby is the thing I have the 97 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:41.680 most hoping that there's actually going to be some sort 98 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:46.279 of resolution or some serious, serious progress. I do speak 99 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:49.399 to Derby in a fairly regular basis. In fact, he listens, 100 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:51.160 he tells me straight out. I listened to almost all 101 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:53.839 your Q and A, so he's probably listening now to 102 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:57.079 this very question. I think Derby is the thing right 103 00:04:57.120 --> 00:04:58.680 now that I have the most hope in that we're 104 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:01.079 going to actually get somewhere. Whether proves the species, well, 105 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:02.839 I certainly hope it does, but I think we might 106 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:04.879 be able to learn something actually from this. 107 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:05.279 Now. 108 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:06.959 Keep in mind, though, so a couple of the things 109 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:09.439 you mentioned. The only two that I can remember is 110 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:12.000 the Melbow thing, and that just turned into a mess, 111 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:17.079 and you can read, you know, books about it like the. 112 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:18.639 Sasquatch Doctor Hearts. 113 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:22.519 Yeah, yeah, exactly, Haskell Heart's book at a brain fart there. 114 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:26.639 But the Olympic Project stuff. I think the Olympic Project stuff. 115 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:28.560 I know that it started with a bank, so to speak, 116 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.839 and from the outside perspective, it kind of fizzled, but 117 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:34.920 it didn't really. It didn't. It started with a bank 118 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:38.000 because they announced it essentially, but it had been going 119 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.560 on long before the announcement, so you got to keep 120 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:42.480 that in mind. There's a public face of this stuff 121 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:44.199 and then there's a behind the scenes stuff that it's 122 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:46.519 always going on. Oh the other thing was Area X too, 123 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:48.519 So they have a good spot basically. That's what that 124 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:50.639 came down to. They had a good spot and they 125 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:54.519 were doing a concerted, organized effort essentially. But both of 126 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:57.120 those situations are still ongoing. But as far as the 127 00:05:57.120 --> 00:05:59.480 Olympic Project stuff goes, Yeah, yeah, there was a nest stuff. 128 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:01.680 They studied that for quite a while. They found a 129 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:04.279 bunch of these things, and then later they announced it 130 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.800 to the public, which was the bang part, And the 131 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:09.079 fizzle part is that the public doesn't get a lot 132 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:12.079 more information about it unless they're actually out, you know, 133 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:14.519 going in here in Shane or Derek or Chris or 134 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:18.120 some of these people speaking, you know, Dave Ellis for example. 135 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.720 But the Nest stuff is still going on, and it's 136 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.079 just one of a couple of things they have on 137 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:27.279 the burners as well. I think it's amongst the more 138 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.560 important things they have on the burner. But let's look 139 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:31.360 at what we actually got out of that. We got 140 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:36.079 a really interesting behavior that had been reported sporadically in 141 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:40.439 the literature for a long time and never really supported 142 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:44.120 very well by other stuff. And also, much like this 143 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:46.360 whole stick structure thing that I'm always kind of like 144 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:51.160 casting a sidelong, dubious glance at, there had been very 145 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:54.120 very few, if any, to my knowledge, direct one to 146 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:57.920 one correlations with nests. With the nests, it's a little 147 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:00.759 bit different the nests. There were, and there were several 148 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:05.639 supporting pieces of information. Obviously, there were sightings in the area, 149 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:08.600 which is interesting in itself because it's a closed area 150 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:13.639 that's private land. Blah blah blah, unusual artifacts found. I 151 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:16.079 guess we can say the nest situation. We had biologists 152 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:17.800 go to the location and say, yeah, that this is 153 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:21.079 bear behavior, this is undocumented bear behavior, and bears are 154 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:23.600 really the only other culprit that might be responsible for 155 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:26.920 this kind of thing. There were those stones that were 156 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:30.319 knocked together. There were when they dissected how the nests 157 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:33.079 was made, they found that sticks were shoved into the 158 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:35.759 ground and other sticks were woven around them. That's very 159 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:38.480 unusual for any sort of animal out there that doesn't 160 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:42.639 have hands. And then, of course the next nest site 161 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:45.360 that was discovered I personally was involved in much more 162 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:48.439 heavily than the first nest site. I saw the first 163 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:50.759 nest but long after they were discovered, but I was there, 164 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:52.800 I think within a week or something of the second 165 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:57.319 nest site being discovered, and I personally found and documented 166 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:02.839 hand prints at the location, several footprints from underneath the 167 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:06.079 NeSSI material. So we have a direct one to one 168 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:09.120 correlation now with these nests and sasquatches, which is something 169 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:12.800 that was missing before and never documented to my knowledge beforehand. 170 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:17.720 So there's several footprint casts and handprint casts from this location, 171 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.079 and a couple of those are on display at the 172 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:22.879 North American Bigfoot Center. It might add too, they're publicly displayed. 173 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:24.720 And then on top of it, Okay, so we have 174 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:28.519 interesting behavior, these nests are somehow associated with sasquatches, and 175 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.800 then that second nest site in particular that sasquatch was 176 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:36.320 repurposing a bear den. That's super interesting. That's really interesting 177 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:39.039 behavior that never been documented before, but makes a lot 178 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:42.639 of sense, and of course, now you know, years after 179 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:45.360 all this stuff is kind of like settled down. There 180 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:49.399 have been visual observations of sasquatches in this property or 181 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:53.480 on this property. There have been footprint finds from this property. 182 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:58.120 Chris Spencer most of his audio work or a lot 183 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:00.879 of his audio work has been from this same property, 184 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:04.279 so this is an ongoing location. I think that the 185 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:09.240 fizzle down part might be dism misinterpreted. So it's not 186 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:10.960 like there was a bang and then you hear then 187 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:14.639 there's nothing going on. There's actually a bang, a big 188 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:17.480 announcement of some sort, and then the Olympic Project in 189 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:23.240 particular gets deployed long term in this location, visiting it 190 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:26.720 as much as as they possibly can, and then studying it. 191 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:30.759 I've seen some of Chris Spencer's Excel files about audio 192 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:34.639 vocalizations and they're fantastic. These guys are still working the 193 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:38.480 area now. Is there are more nests being found? Not 194 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:40.519 that I've heard, of course, you know, but they're getting 195 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:42.759 patterns down, and I think that that's something you got 196 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:44.799 to keep in mind. Just like what I said a 197 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.720 couple of weeks ago in the last the Q and A, 198 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:49.679 and I'll say it again too, that like the Darby 199 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:52.200 thing I think right now holds the North Carolina State 200 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:55.080 University thing holds the most promise. But just like the 201 00:09:55.080 --> 00:09:57.840 Olympic Project thing, just like the long term study at 202 00:09:57.879 --> 00:10:02.639 the area X for an AWAC, real science takes a 203 00:10:02.840 --> 00:10:06.039 long time, and it's not that there's going to be 204 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:11.240 a finding from the Olympic Project, nest site and Darby studies. 205 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.080 There are many of them. Some of these hold a 206 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:16.320 lot of promise to have a finding that would be 207 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:18.480 a cool announcement. The rest of these are like, okay, 208 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:21.639 sasquatches are there. Now we have to document their behavior 209 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:24.799 over a long period of time, which to me is 210 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:26.840 by far the most interesting thing. You can show me 211 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:27.720 a picture of a bigfoot. 212 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:28.000 I think it. 213 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:31.519 Might think it's cool, but the most interesting thing about 214 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.480 these animals is what they're doing day to day. To me, 215 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:37.519 I think a long term study, years and years and 216 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.399 years study of one particular area is to me probably 217 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:44.120 the most fascinating thing one can do. And that's what 218 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:46.919 at least both of these areas, to my knowledge, are 219 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:48.960 being subjected to well. 220 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:50.440 I think too. A big part of it is that 221 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:54.039 when the initial announcement is made or the first set 222 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.440 of findings. A lot of the commentators, let's say, like 223 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:01.600 podcasters or YouTube channel hosts, et cetera. They'll all reach 224 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:03.559 out and they all want to talk about it, and 225 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:06.600 so the people are sort of reiterating those initial findings, 226 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:09.679 and because those make the rounds, it seems like there's 227 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:12.919 a big buzz, but really it's multiple iterations of a 228 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:16.759 description of the same initial findings or initial observations, et cetera. 229 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:19.480 And then as they get focused on things, you know, 230 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:22.600 there's less to report on without just reiterating what's already 231 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.639 been reiterated multiple times. And so I can see how 232 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:28.159 to an outsider it would seem like, oh, there was 233 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:30.240 all this buzz and then it just went quiet. But 234 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.039 it's a little bit more complex than that. 235 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.559 Yeah, so don't lose heart. Don't lose heart. I think 236 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:38.159 that's the big takeaway from what I'm trying to say least, 237 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.799 is that a big splash is great. It makes a 238 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:42.600 lot of noise all at once, but then you're swimming 239 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:45.600 for a while. That's cool too. And I think with 240 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:49.360 patients and hope and a good dash of luck, maybe 241 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:51.039 more stuff that will come out of there, you know, 242 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:54.120 maybe more nests will be found in that area, or 243 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:57.360 someone like myself or you know, whoever I had, or 244 00:11:57.480 --> 00:11:59.639 you know, various Olympic Project members and stuff who are 245 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.759 familiar the nest. Maybe they're going to find other locations 246 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:06.159 similar to these, where there are other nests. That would 247 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:10.840 be a huge find as well. A discovery begs questions, 248 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:14.399 and questions are the basis of hypotheses, and that's when 249 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:16.840 you get to start testing what's going on, what's going 250 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.279 on here, and then trying things in different areas or 251 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:22.759 in different locales in that same area. I think there's 252 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:25.360 a lot going on in all of these cases. Maybe 253 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:27.440 not the Melbow things so much. I don't know what's 254 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:29.559 going on with that. I don't really care. But these 255 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:31.919 other things, I particularly the Olympic Projects stuff, since I 256 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:34.960 know all these people and I've been up there and stuff, 257 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:37.399 I'm very interested in what they're doing. And they are 258 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:39.720 not sitting on their laurels. They are not being idle. 259 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.480 Stuff is going on and it's a long term, slow drip, 260 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:46.440 and so far, I think it's fascinating what they've been doing. 261 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:51.200 Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and 262 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:54.000 Bogo will be right back after these messages. 263 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.120 Different things about their appearance. 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Yeah, I don't know, squad 303 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:07.639 about that man some for the audience if you're not familiar. 304 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:12.279 The quote unquote Miller documents were quote unquote submitted to 305 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:16.919 a prominent bigfoot blog that this person said, Hey, I 306 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:22.360 received this email, and according to the writer of the email, like, oh, 307 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.840 my uncle or grandfather, you know, some older relative passed 308 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:30.159 away and we found these documents among his belongings. And 309 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.279 I've typed this up for you, the writer of this blog, 310 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:36.759 as you are the most credible person in all of sasquatry, 311 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:38.840 and you're the only person that can be trusted with 312 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:42.639 this information. And it basically was written in like a 313 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:45.799 first person sort of narrative about a guy who claimed 314 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.679 that you know, he went to Yale and then began 315 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:51.480 working for I believe it was like the Department of Agriculture, 316 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:55.240 and that he and his colleagues had essentially discovered the 317 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:59.399 sasquatch and like six subspecies thereof. But we did a 318 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:01.799 bit of a discussion of that with Steve Coles for 319 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:05.200 the members only episode that accompanied Steve Coles's main episode, 320 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:07.919 which by now listeners will have heard, So if you 321 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:09.440 want to hear a little bit more about that. But 322 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:12.600 now there's no reason to think that that was anything 323 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:17.600 other than a fabrication, likely based on a real person 324 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:21.080 who really was a scientist and did some real writings, 325 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:24.039 and someone took his writings and took some playful creative 326 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:29.159 license and adapted it to be this top secret Sasquatch document. 327 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:33.159 It's poorly written, full of errors and things of that nature. 328 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:36.159 So unfortunately that's the story with the Miller doc. But 329 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:37.960 if you want to hear more of the details and 330 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.480 essentially why we know that it's a hoax and where 331 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:45.200 the works that it was derived from, go listen to 332 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:46.840 the members only episode with Steve Coles. 333 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:47.480 Yeah. 334 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:50.399 I am blissfully unaware of all of that, and I 335 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:52.080 couldn't be happier about it because it sounds like a 336 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:52.679 bunch of hohoha. 337 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:53.600 Yeah. 338 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:55.320 This was a little over a decade ago and it 339 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:57.559 made a big buzz. A lot of people were talking 340 00:16:57.559 --> 00:16:59.320 about it and thought it was legitimate. That's why when 341 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:01.200 I was talking with Steve, I said, oh, yeah, we 342 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:03.600 get questions about that all the time. And it was 343 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:06.400 after we recorded that episode with Steve that this voicemail 344 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:09.960 came in just you know, another example of asking about that. 345 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:12.759 Yeah, I remember Steve talking and you talking about that 346 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:15.680 on the podcast. I just had no experience or knowledge 347 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:17.200 of it at all, so I just tried to set I 348 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:18.359 tried to sit that one out. 349 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:21.079 But yeah, that's that's the story with that Greg. So 350 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:23.160 if you do want the deeper story, check out the 351 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:24.279 members only episode. 352 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:29.240 Even I didn't fall for that one, soul got into 353 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:33.119 this first written one, I think. So Okay, this first 354 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:36.400 one's for Jamie Incs. Hello, Cliff, Matt, and Bobbo. What 355 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:38.799 are some of the funnier sasquatch of condo stows you 356 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:41.559 have experienced or have heard about? Thanks for the show 357 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:44.680 and have a beautiful day. I think again, what I 358 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:49.240 heard was when we were in Virginia about a sasquatch 359 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:52.839 getting into some still illegal whiskey still in the mountains, 360 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:57.200 some moon shiners, and the thing was drunk way in 361 00:17:57.319 --> 00:17:58.880 the middle of the mash pile, and it came like 362 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:03.799 daybreak morning, and thing was just super hammered, stumbled off. 363 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:05.640 I've heard I've heard like two or three of those 364 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.559 about them getting it was stills getting hammered. 365 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:11.000 Yeah, I've never heard anything like that, but I'm sure 366 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:12.720 it does happen. It does happen all the all sorts 367 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:14.880 of other wildlife, you know, bears and hogs and all 368 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:15.480 that sort of stuff. 369 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:17.480 You heard it, you're at the cliff is. A witness 370 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:20.119 told us that we were like that carnival thing with 371 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:21.759 the band playing Bigfoot songs. 372 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:23.960 There's a lot going on that day. Man. I don't 373 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.440 remember that one, but I believe it. But yeah, I 374 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:28.839 think the the funniest one I heard is that I 375 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:33.039 heard a story from somebody who's probably a little little 376 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:36.759 little weird that uh, he didn't see it, but he 377 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:40.240 took he supposedly took a report of a sasquatch walking 378 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:44.640 across the road in an orange puffy jacket wearing sunglasses. Yeah, 379 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:47.680 no pants or anything like that though, So let's hope 380 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:50.240 it was a sasquatch though, instead of just somebody else 381 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:53.240 just wearing an orange buffy jacket, sunglasses and no pants. 382 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:56.519 There's a lot of reports, or several of them, where 383 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.119 they have like a shirt sort of too small form 384 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:01.799 with like just like stretched out, like the collar ripped 385 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:04.400 and just draped over the over their like you know, 386 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:06.720 over their head, draped over their shoulders because they're way 387 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:08.920 too big for it. I've heard at least four or 388 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.519 five there had human stuff like that, like clothing on, like, 389 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:14.519 but never pants sort of thing. Yeah. 390 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.000 Of course, other apes do occasionally put on a shirt 391 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:19.039 or something if they you know, if they have access 392 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:21.480 to that kind of thing. It's been documented before. But 393 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:23.480 the sunglasses thing, that's what got me. 394 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:24.440 That's a little much. 395 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:26.759 Yeah, and an orange puffy come on. So I don't know. 396 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:28.960 That are some pretty weird stories out there that. So 397 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:31.319 there was a reported sighting by the way, a couple 398 00:19:31.519 --> 00:19:33.759 a couple of days ago in the Warm Springs Reservation. 399 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:34.720 There was. 400 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:38.000 I got wind of it on Monday morning, and actually 401 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:40.240