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<v Speaker 1>Hell everybody through the facilities of the iHeartMedia megaplexis is

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<v Speaker 1>Dick Gabriel. This is the state wide edition of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insiety. He heard comments from Mark, Pope, Kenny Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's March madness, but yours truly, Aaron Gershon and Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Rutledge stay with us for the state wide BBI Border

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<v Speaker 1>to Border. It is the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel,

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Gershon and Billy Rutledge. Let's take care of Billy,

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<v Speaker 1>the most important part of the show. Happy birthday, mister Gershan,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much sharing your birthday with Tom Leach?

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<v Speaker 1>How about that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, We've been texting back and forth and he was

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<v Speaker 2>quizzing me on some Beatles music trivia, which I told

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<v Speaker 2>him might fail.

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<v Speaker 1>So why was he quizzing you on Beatles.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty four years for them? I don't know if today's

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<v Speaker 2>their birthday too't.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, but I thought I knew it was an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting one. I know a lot about the Beatles, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just watched he had another documentary about him. But anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the guy to ask. Yeah, and uh, in

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<v Speaker 1>all fairness, Aaron's catching up on the Mark Pope comments

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<v Speaker 1>tonight because Pops took you to Jeff Ruby's right next

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<v Speaker 1>to awesome, ye, which is great. But Billy and I

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<v Speaker 1>were talking off air a little bit, and you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>some of the comments on Twitter about fans Billy with,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the velvet hammer, the big smile in their voice.

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<v Speaker 1>But coach could just try doing this or that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this was classic coaches show stuff tonight, wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very It's very respectful by the respect the I

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<v Speaker 3>love you, but we know there was a few of

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<v Speaker 3>those coming after the beatdown against Auburn. Yeah, despite them

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<v Speaker 3>being the number one team in the country, they did

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<v Speaker 3>look great, Dick. I mean in what I saw on

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<v Speaker 3>the game. I mean, since we missed the last eleven minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever seen anything like that in your years

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<v Speaker 3>of television, Dick.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a game being knocked off? Yeah, probably, but not

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like that. You talk about high profile. ABC buys

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<v Speaker 1>the game from ESPN, which I still don't understand because

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<v Speaker 1>they own ESPN, but I guess one side of the

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<v Speaker 1>hall pays the other side at all. Anyhow, they went

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<v Speaker 1>to great lengths to not only get that game, but

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<v Speaker 1>do some serious pre production and all that stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>they bring in the A team Showman and Billis and

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling Aaron that, you know, I came home

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<v Speaker 1>from baseball yesterday and I was watching a game so

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<v Speaker 1>I could comment on it, and I'm looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>timeline on my dvar and I'm like, wait, it says

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<v Speaker 1>there's only twelve more minutes, and I'm like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden it goes blank and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a hockey screen and hockey. So, man, we heard about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at baseball, but we heard about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>our producer for the UK Baseball they're in Reperina right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's that brand new facility over there, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>were seeing texts and hearing things about, oh, they switched

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<v Speaker 1>to hockey, and people thought it was because the game

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<v Speaker 1>was so bad. They're not that stupid. And immediately our producer,

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<v Speaker 1>who was obviously, you know, connected to the people in Reperina,

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<v Speaker 1>said yeah, they had a fire. I'm like, oh goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. No one was hurt, so that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a blessing for all of us in attendance

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<v Speaker 2>at rep Arena because it meant the officials could not

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the monitor for a meaningless foul. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they tried three times and they were like, got no monitor.

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<v Speaker 1>Well again, we you know, we hear from Mark Pope

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<v Speaker 1>about that somebody had brought it up. I'm glad you

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<v Speaker 1>said that I did. But are there too many? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know it's not up to the officials to

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<v Speaker 1>decide what is reviewed and how, because as we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking prior to the show, there were games won and

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<v Speaker 1>loss that should not have been including UK LSU three

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<v Speaker 1>or four years ago. Yep, that's right. I was. That

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the last games they went to as

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<v Speaker 1>a fan. Yep. So boy that was God. That was

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<v Speaker 1>maybe fun. That was cool. That was the twenty eighteen nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the Tyler hero year. Okay, So for people

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<v Speaker 1>who don't remember LSU scored the winning bucket on basket interference,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely did. And we're all looking around, going they'll take

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<v Speaker 1>that down. Yep, and we're all looking around and game

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<v Speaker 1>over yep. And later on we got word because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there was a pool reporter situation, but they

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<v Speaker 1>said we couldn't by rule, we could not review that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct. Now they can now they can't. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky rule. Just like there were a couple of recruiting

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<v Speaker 1>rules and were Billy Gillespie rules. That's a Kentucky rule,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's is it bad? Do you take

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<v Speaker 1>that away? It's just because we had the same discussion

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<v Speaker 1>to get it right, get it right. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>only have the Mark Pope idea of one challenge, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it should be two. I think what's the NBA?

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<v Speaker 1>Does anyone know? I don't. I think it's one. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's is it one? And then you win it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cool with that. I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I am definitely forgetting it right. But it's again you

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about before the show. Baseball first picture

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<v Speaker 2>was at one o'clock. They were done before Kentucky Auburn,

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<v Speaker 2>South Carolina, Arkansas tipped at one o'clock down in Columbia.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a slaughtering. But besides the point that game

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<v Speaker 2>ended forty seven minutes before Kentucky Auburn.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean I was there, mind you, the fire

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<v Speaker 1>in the truck didn't delay the game. The Kentucky no

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<v Speaker 1>nobody knew. The first half took an hour and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes. That's unaccepted. That can't happen. It's a bad

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<v Speaker 1>product other way of speaking of an Arkansas game. Guess

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't show for his postgame? Oh suppressed, first time

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<v Speaker 1>this year, but sucker. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyhow, Also, I was I was obviously in Oklahoma. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>there a situation there where Texas A and M and

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<v Speaker 2>Vanderbilt took so long in the last minute? Oh yeah

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<v Speaker 2>that so Kentucky fans have seen like thirty one minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of their team on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>In the last two days. Yeah, it was what billy

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes in.

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<v Speaker 3>That game didn't start on the TV until eleven minutes in,

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean we were under ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>They held We saw it. They held tip off, Yes

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<v Speaker 1>they did. It was a five minutes Yeah. Oh the

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<v Speaker 1>game didn't tips on nine ten and Norman or eight

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<v Speaker 1>ten Central Time. Yeah yeah, so I don't know. But

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<v Speaker 1>what's the answer, you know, or do you let it go? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>There's also a lot of hostility towards these officials from

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<v Speaker 3>college basketball fans because of Mark Pope's point that the

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<v Speaker 3>all of the burden is on officials right now. If

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<v Speaker 3>you were to give challenges to coaches, then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we could probably see a few more missed calls, but

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately probably speed the game up by twenty thirty minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm for that. I mean, we got what was it,

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<v Speaker 3>two hours and forty minutes for this last one, So

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<v Speaker 3>that has got to be improved in ESPN has got

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<v Speaker 3>to start scheduling better on TV if they're gonna slotting it. Yeh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the games are two and a half hours long. They're

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<v Speaker 3>not two hours long, and so despite five minute slides,

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<v Speaker 3>you're missing the beginnings of games if you don't know

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<v Speaker 3>the streaming listen in.

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<v Speaker 1>That the schools. Would do schools agree to start their

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<v Speaker 1>gamet half an hour later because of TV? Yeah? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that ESPN's just trying to schedule as many

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<v Speaker 3>as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, money, But does ESPN have the muscle to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the schools you're going to be on and here's

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<v Speaker 1>what time we've got you slated? Right? You know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>selected your game for the eight to thirty time slot,

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<v Speaker 1>not the eight o'clock time slot anymore, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my guess is the TV rules the roost

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<v Speaker 1>because they're right in the checks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I mean they're already slotted to a degree, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so we would just be a more of a staggered

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<v Speaker 3>start for exactly these games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know it's come down to this for

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<v Speaker 1>the fans. Okay, do you want to wait twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>to watch your beloved team tip off or miss the

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<v Speaker 1>first ten minutes of the game? List' it? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>unless you have ESPN plus something about it. Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are people I refuse to use the app

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<v Speaker 1>or I refuse to use see, well, that's fine. It's

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<v Speaker 1>your choice, you know. But and if you if that

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<v Speaker 1>helps you, you know, good on you. But anyway, back

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<v Speaker 1>to the game. My thought, and of course Aaron, you

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<v Speaker 1>were up in the rafters and Billy, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how much you had a chance to watch as you

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<v Speaker 1>were managing the game listening the radio. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>were listening, but I felt right away I thought, these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are intimidated. Oh yeah, now you know it happened

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain point. That was a ball game until

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<v Speaker 1>there were five minutes left in the first half.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Kentucky, well, Kentucky had a I think they led

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<v Speaker 2>for a whole nineteen seconds, but they cut it down

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<v Speaker 2>to six.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they felt you had pined by sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Miles Kelly, and this took the year out

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<v Speaker 2>of both the building in Kentucky. He goes finishes nine

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<v Speaker 2>for fourteen, thirty points, a wonderful game. He also banks

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<v Speaker 2>two threes, not just banked them on back to back

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<v Speaker 2>possessions off.

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<v Speaker 1>Balance off seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was fall literally he was falling. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like are you tripping? No, throwing it in the basket

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<v Speaker 2>from thirty feet out. But so you could just tell

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<v Speaker 2>the energy from the team got zapped a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>They were definitely and I think something that needs It's

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<v Speaker 2>not an excuse, but I think something that needs to

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<v Speaker 2>get overlooked. And it sounded like Mark Pope talked about

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<v Speaker 2>in his show Jackson Robinson. It sounded like, not only

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<v Speaker 2>was it an injury and knew what happened in the

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<v Speaker 2>moment was very emotional for the whole team. I think

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<v Speaker 2>what you say described him as inconsolable. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's something they didn't get back from Norman to like

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<v Speaker 2>three am, and they Thursday morning and having that deflating

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<v Speaker 2>news probably already was weighing on them. And then to

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<v Speaker 2>come out in this game. The energy is great, You're

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<v Speaker 2>getting some stops early. I think it was only five

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<v Speaker 2>four five to four at the first stop, and then

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<v Speaker 2>a kid comes in and hits two circuit shots.

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<v Speaker 1>But meanwhile Kentucky was playing some of the worst basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrible it has all I thought the game turnovers just

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<v Speaker 1>ugly turn the first I mean the first six minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of the first half, second half, excuse me, they had

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<v Speaker 1>six unforced turnovers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I questioned the game plan a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was the game planner, if

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<v Speaker 2>it was the nerves. But they their game plan in

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<v Speaker 2>this game, which we've heard all year, we're gonna shoot

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five threes. We know it hasn't happened. They tried

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<v Speaker 2>to muscle in their way to the paint. They tried

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<v Speaker 2>to go in the paint in Kentucky, Kentucky. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>Auburn's got obviously jan I Brew might be the player

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<v Speaker 2>of the year down there. They have didn't play like it,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't play like it. You never play as well here. No,

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<v Speaker 2>But I just they took seventeen threes that you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>If some of those were really ill advised, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they forced And exactly so, Auburn did a great did

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you watch it, and Billy, I

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<v Speaker 2>They unfortunately too, though they did get some good looks

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<v Speaker 2>at the frame, they just couldn't finish.

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<v Speaker 2>he looked better in the second half, look more comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it was. It was an all system's failure.

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<v Speaker 3>fields of them unforced, right, unbelievable. Uh, And it led

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<v Speaker 3>to Goose Givens saying on the radio that at times,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Kentucky just didn't look like they knew what

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<v Speaker 3>seen a significant drop off when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 3>again where they only scored five bench points. And if

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<v Speaker 3>Jackson Robinson is not going to be available for this team,

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<v Speaker 1>That's about way he was. Just he was off. But

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<v Speaker 1>Billy and I were talking going into the season, and

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<v Speaker 1>hundred team in the SEC. Uh, they're respected nationally, But

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of wins and losses, it's basically what we

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<v Speaker 1>with air quotes good league. But then who saw the injuries?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if I told you in November, okay, by

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<v Speaker 1>uh for an extended period. Your top three perimeter players

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<v Speaker 1>in Robinson, Creasa, and Butler. Now they get Butler back.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you just said, he's at it what seventy

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<v Speaker 1>He claims that he said eighty. He's exaggerated. He's at

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<v Speaker 1>seventy to seventy. When a guy tells you ways one

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five. But anyhow, if I had told and then

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<v Speaker 1>Billy to your point, if I said, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to really need to lean on the true freshman,

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<v Speaker 1>we would we would be thinking, oh this this could

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's not well that they've they've progressed. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's a credit to Pope for not limiting his rotation.

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<v Speaker 3>And he admitted tonight he maybe limited it too much

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<v Speaker 3>versus Auburn and those guys played too many minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was fascinating. Doesn't want to hear it,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's okay, who's who's making a cost on the sideline?

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<v Speaker 2>Look this is and this was a known with Pope.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what he did at b YU, and he

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<v Speaker 2>said he was going to do it from day one.

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<v Speaker 2>That you played eleven guys at b YU last year,

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<v Speaker 2>so on paper you're probably thinking inferior talent already. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's how he coaches. And look, Amary Williams, you had

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<v Speaker 2>to keep him on the floor in that game because

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<v Speaker 2>he shut down Jani Broom. He really did nine points

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<v Speaker 2>in five rebounds.

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<v Speaker 1>I got Broom from what you know? What do I know?

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<v Speaker 1>But it looked to me like he was pressing Mary.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a physic accounty. Yeah, I want to prove myself

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<v Speaker 1>against to Mars and how many guys seven foot two

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<v Speaker 1>sixty is Broom faces? It is?

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<v Speaker 2>It is interesting with Broom. All three games he's played

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<v Speaker 2>against Kentucky going back to the Cali era have not

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<v Speaker 2>been good. And he was at Morehead State. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if it's like in his head, like I got to

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<v Speaker 2>prove you guys passed on me out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the portal. But everybody passed, I know, except for

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Pearl. Going to say Bruce Pearl felt like he

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<v Speaker 1>had something to prove. Yeah, that's first. Ala Perry passed

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<v Speaker 1>on him. Yes on. Oh, I wonder if he even

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<v Speaker 1>had a shot at him.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember when his name went in the portal of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the there's just like the simple Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got to be Kentucky. He's at Morehead, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it just never came before you. But Cal was also

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<v Speaker 2>very late to the portal game.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's true. Yeah, we're gonna step I will come

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<v Speaker 1>back and talk more Kentucky basketball. We'll touch on football

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<v Speaker 1>as well, maybe even a little baseball down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Five in a week for the Wildcats and an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>performance by a sophomore pitcher. All of that and more

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<v Speaker 1>coming up on the state wide BBI from Pikeville to Paducah.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the statewide Big Blue and Sider Dick Gabriel,

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Rutley, Jaron Gershawn. We're talking about Kentucky. He's lost

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<v Speaker 1>to Auburn and now coming up next to his LSU.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know that Jackson Robinson is having surgery this week,

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<v Speaker 1>so he has definitely done for the I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting too that Pope tonight said that he was

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<v Speaker 1>given the option of surgery a week or two ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also said, if you want to try to

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<v Speaker 1>play through it, give it, give it a shot. And

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing okay until he fell on the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>He was actually having a pretty shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean during warm ups, I was there, he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't It's like, oh, this guy's back. He wasn't missing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he I think he started. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>went three for seven in the field until.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he looked pretty good. So uh, but now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to put that behind you. I really believe.

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<v Speaker 1>And nothing's a given. Well, of course, every win is big.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Goose is given. That's true. Uh, for seating purposes, man,

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<v Speaker 1>they got to you got to protect your home court.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't lose this, No you can't. Yeah, it's a borderline

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<v Speaker 2>quad three game. They're eighty two in the net lest

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<v Speaker 2>I checked. So you really can't lose this one. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously the NA tournament seating is more important,

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<v Speaker 2>but SEC tournament they go zero to two this week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost a guarantee you're playing on Wednesday. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 2>fans want to start on no.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the way conference tournaments are. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people love him air quotes but complain about him all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. It seems like they can only hurt you

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<v Speaker 1>unless you're one of the half nine. That's right. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if your team has got to play its way in

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<v Speaker 1>off the bubble or play your way into the tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>the NCA tournament, then you need the conference tournament. A

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<v Speaker 1>team like Kentucky. I remember back we got Duke up

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the telly here, but more than once,

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<v Speaker 1>Skrzyzewsky's saying, you know, if you lose early in the tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>it means more rest. You mean more in your conference tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you get more rest in prep time going into.

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<v Speaker 2>No one loved losing the SEC turn more than John

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<v Speaker 2>cal Perry, but he never did nod well. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he couldn't win tournament game. Remember he said, get

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<v Speaker 2>to go home and kiss my dogs. Yeah, a little

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<v Speaker 2>house on the prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>I get to go watch a little hoss in the prayer. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, Kentucky's it's just different with that tournament though,

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<v Speaker 2>with how they sell out in Nashville. Oh, and they

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<v Speaker 2>come out and Kentucky has not won an SEC tournament

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<v Speaker 2>game in Nashville since twenty nineteen because the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two tournament was in Tampa, so they won that one

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<v Speaker 2>game against Andy and then they lost to Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>Was where was the COVID year where Nashville they lost?

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<v Speaker 1>Supposed to be, Yes, there was supposed to be in Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was no tournaments lost, a tournament, not a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, they one game, right game, the opening game? Right? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So Kentucky has not gone to Nashville in front of

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<v Speaker 2>that sold out basically all Blue Arena and won a

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<v Speaker 2>game there since twenty nineteen, and they haven't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I don't think they're gonna win the SEC tournament

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<v Speaker 2>this year, but twenty eighteen, their last SEC tournament win

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<v Speaker 2>was in Saint Louis, So they actually haven't won the

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<v Speaker 2>SEC tournament in Nashville since twenty seventeen. Isn't that crazy

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<v Speaker 2>to think about?

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<v Speaker 3>This would be a good year, though, to have success

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<v Speaker 3>in that tournament, no question, just because of the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we'll look back on this season as the

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<v Speaker 3>year the SEC was the greatest basketball conference. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you could maybe make the weekend of that tournament, I

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<v Speaker 3>think you could look back a little bit more fondly

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<v Speaker 3>on the season. If you were to get bounced by

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<v Speaker 3>Mississippis State in the first round.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, if they end up, if they go one in one,

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<v Speaker 2>more likely than not they'll be the eighth seed. They'll

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<v Speaker 2>play their first game at noon on Thursday. If they

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<v Speaker 2>win Thursday, probably Mississippi State. They play Auburn again. If

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<v Speaker 2>you go and somehow beat Auburn on Friday, even if

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<v Speaker 2>you lose, I'm not saying it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Auburn is one of the best teams I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>a burse. Yeah, but you know what, if they play

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<v Speaker 1>Auburn again, I firmly believe they will play much much better.

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<v Speaker 1>After looking at this energy wasn't there No, And you

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<v Speaker 1>got to think they're embarrassed. They got punked, they got punked,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, they the energy was lacking. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Pope talked, but went through all the theories after the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it, you know, the late return to Oklahoma? Was

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<v Speaker 2>it the Jackson news? What could it have been? But

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, he didn't have those guys ready to

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<v Speaker 2>fight and bring what they needed to against Aubeign. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>Auburn's really, really good and they'll be hard to beat,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Teams that play. South Carolina took them to the wire. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Arkansas took them to the wire. Like their scores, if

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<v Speaker 1>you go look at them, there's some blowout wins and

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<v Speaker 1>you tip your cap. But there's gonna be a matchup issue.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think part of it to your point about

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<v Speaker 1>about the end, and I was gonna ask you about

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<v Speaker 1>that because not being there, you can't really see the

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<v Speaker 1>body language terrible. But I wondered it seemed like a

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<v Speaker 1>game where something they had to get off to a

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<v Speaker 1>good start, something good had to happen for Kentucky to

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<v Speaker 1>feed off the enthusiasm of the crowd and each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And not only did it not happen, something bizarrely bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Kid was thrown in three pointers.

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<v Speaker 2>Throw them from the ocean. Yeah, so yeah, the body

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<v Speaker 2>language wasn't great. I mean it stayed okay. And when

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<v Speaker 2>Brea has the dunk, they were pretty amped up. And

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<v Speaker 2>then as soon as Auburn kind of closed the door

420
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<v Speaker 2>on them, what was fifteen point halftime lead, but.

421
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<v Speaker 1>You know, Auburn on the next possession turned it over.

422
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<v Speaker 1>They sure did, and Kentucky couldn't take advantage of Kentucky

423
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<v Speaker 1>cut it to six, Auburn turned it over.

424
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<v Speaker 2>And never got closer than six, maybe five. Maybe it

425
00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:50.720
<v Speaker 2>was five at one point, but I don't think it

426
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<v Speaker 2>got closer than that.

427
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<v Speaker 3>Now, would love to know in the history of basketball

428
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<v Speaker 3>how often there's been back to back bank degrees.

429
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<v Speaker 2>I was I was having a conversation with Ice. If

430
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<v Speaker 2>you're out there getting busy, I was having you know,

431
00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:04.960
<v Speaker 2>we on the staff broadcast. You get so much good

432
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<v Speaker 2>stuff on there. And the one thing I'm like, can

433
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<v Speaker 2>you plead us ask add bank threes? I just want

434
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<v Speaker 2>to see how many they've had?

435
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<v Speaker 1>Man? And those were those were almost desperation shots. What sure?

436
00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:19.039
<v Speaker 2>The first one was high off the glass, the second

437
00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:21.119
<v Speaker 2>one was like and didn't the guy pass almost between

438
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<v Speaker 2>his legs?

439
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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, when I was looking at the

440
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<v Speaker 1>stat broadcast sight after the game four, I had a

441
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<v Speaker 1>chance to watch the video, I was amazed at the

442
00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:32.920
<v Speaker 1>rebound numbers. Kentucky crushed them on the porch. Yes, then

443
00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:35.839
<v Speaker 1>again Auburn made almost all the shot true. But then

444
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<v Speaker 1>my eye dropped down to turnovers.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Eighteen eighteen eighty eight, eight eight and Auburn only assisted

446
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<v Speaker 2>I think he, I think they. I think Auburn was

447
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<v Speaker 2>an eight assistant turned.

448
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<v Speaker 1>Getting this You don't get an assistant a thirty foot

449
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<v Speaker 1>bank three pointers, right, So you're right eight eight eight eight. Wow.

450
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<v Speaker 1>Well they've got to uh figure it out. And going

451
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<v Speaker 1>into the SEC tournament, I think fans would love it

452
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<v Speaker 1>if they won a game. Then if they lose to

453
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<v Speaker 1>a team like whatever, they'd be understanding. Get your first

454
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<v Speaker 1>winning Bristone Arena on six years. But it's and they lost.

455
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<v Speaker 1>What year was that they lost? Was it was it

456
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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twelve teams, Yes, they lost, and Andy beat him

457
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<v Speaker 1>in twenty fourteen when they went to the final four

458
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<v Speaker 1>the national championship game, they lost as well. But it's

459
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<v Speaker 1>gonna be tougher. I think to win the SEC Tournament

460
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<v Speaker 1>than to win the nca Tournament. That's how good this

461
00:21:31.200 --> 00:21:33.559
<v Speaker 1>league is because the best teams in the country get

462
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<v Speaker 1>a couple of bunnies to open up the nca tournament.

463
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<v Speaker 1>But SEC and you get rest, plenty of rest. Not

464
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<v Speaker 1>this one. It's gonna be a war, yeah, but that's

465
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<v Speaker 1>what you've got to get at least one by and

466
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<v Speaker 1>maybe two if you can. Might have fourteen SEC teams

467
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<v Speaker 1>in the NCAA Tournament. I was up to that fourteen.

468
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<v Speaker 3>I will take a little credit for Brandon Garrison's game

469
00:21:54.039 --> 00:21:56.480
<v Speaker 3>versus Olah, he was awesome. You remember, I was kind of,

470
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<v Speaker 3>you know, saying that MARII should probably play a little

471
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<v Speaker 3>bit more because Garrison just doesn't have it motive listening.

472
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<v Speaker 1>Or you motivate it, because I mean, maybe it was

473
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<v Speaker 1>just much less Brandon Garrett.

474
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know what, maybe that applies to what

475
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<v Speaker 3>he did in the Auburn game, but it does not

476
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<v Speaker 3>apply to what he did versus Oklahoma.

477
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<v Speaker 1>He was great.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, here's another favorable matchup tomorrow night if he

479
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<v Speaker 2>can take advantage because l s U they have some

480
00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:25.200
<v Speaker 2>really nice players in the backcourt. Uh, front love Damon Collins.

481
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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy.

482
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<v Speaker 2>I hope you gets a nice reception. But you know,

483
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<v Speaker 2>Berdie Garrison mar Period.

484
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<v Speaker 1>Touched on this early. We need to talk about it

485
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<v Speaker 1>after the break. Uh, not to be laying everything that

486
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<v Speaker 1>o' take away? What's the what's the opposite of giving

487
00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:42.960
<v Speaker 1>him as flowers, give him as weeds? I don't know,

488
00:22:43.400 --> 00:22:44.680
<v Speaker 1>had a terrible game after.

489
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<v Speaker 2>A brilliant game, one of the most best individual performances

490
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<v Speaker 2>I've seen in a long time.

491
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<v Speaker 1>Agree more to come and the stay wide, bb I

492
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<v Speaker 1>stay with us. We'll be right back border to border,

493
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<v Speaker 1>Pikeville to Paduca. It is a statewide edition of the

494
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<v Speaker 1>Big Booing Sider. Dick Gabrielle, Aaron Gershan, Billy Rutledge. We

495
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<v Speaker 1>have spent a lot of time, of course, slicing and

496
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<v Speaker 1>dicing on the Auburn game. But since we met last

497
00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Wildcats won at Oklahoma and that was one of those

498
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<v Speaker 1>games that you're watching it and Aaron, you were out

499
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<v Speaker 1>there and I'm thinking, well, they gave it a good try,

500
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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I don't know what would he down

501
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<v Speaker 1>five or something.

502
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.079
<v Speaker 2>They were down seventy seven to seventy two. I forget

503
00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:35.279
<v Speaker 2>how much time was on the clock five.

504
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<v Speaker 1>You know, to use the oft used cliche. Now that's

505
00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>why cliches are off used. H letting go of the

506
00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:43.839
<v Speaker 1>rope a little bit. It's not that they were playing poorly.

507
00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma started hitting shots and Kentucky missed a few, and

508
00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:54.039
<v Speaker 1>then Oway had one of literally the greatest games in

509
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<v Speaker 1>UK history. It was unreal.

510
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<v Speaker 2>Eighteen of their last eighteen points in the last eight

511
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<v Speaker 2>and a half minutes.

512
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<v Speaker 1>And you've got stad broadcast up and you've got your notebook,

513
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<v Speaker 1>so you're charting, and you realized in real time it's happening, Billy,

514
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<v Speaker 1>Did you realize that was going on?

515
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<v Speaker 3>He was hitting it until like two or three minutes left,

516
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:16.039
<v Speaker 3>because it was like eleven minutes left in the game.

517
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<v Speaker 1>When Omari hit their last non Oways shot, right.

518
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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't notice it until late and then it

519
00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:24.960
<v Speaker 3>was I mean, he just looked like a different player than.

520
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<v Speaker 1>What we've saying. I listened to Tom and Jack first half,

521
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<v Speaker 1>TV the second half, and TV I don't remember who

522
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<v Speaker 1>was doing a game mentioned that he was going nuts

523
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:36.839
<v Speaker 1>and having a great game, but did not. I don't

524
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<v Speaker 1>know if if either if they did, I missed it,

525
00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>which is entirely possible, but they didn't make that big

526
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<v Speaker 1>a deal out of the fact that no one has scored.

527
00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:46.599
<v Speaker 1>But way, well, what was crazy?

528
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<v Speaker 2>And Pope said it in the press conference like the

529
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<v Speaker 2>first thirty minutes of the game was one of always

530
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<v Speaker 2>worse than the Yes, he was a He had twenty

531
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<v Speaker 2>one of his twenty eight in the second half, and

532
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<v Speaker 2>I had a factor in the first, right, and I

533
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<v Speaker 2>think you know he did. I don't know how well

534
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<v Speaker 2>of a TV did picking up the hostility towards Otega

535
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<v Speaker 2>away from the Oklahoma fans. Okay, well, every time he

536
00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:08.839
<v Speaker 2>touched the ball. It was kind of similar to DJ

537
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Wagner when he was here. Yeah, every time you could

538
00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>hear it, okay every time, only when always touched the ball,

539
00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:17.519
<v Speaker 2>huge booze and trade or trade or whatever.

540
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<v Speaker 1>Dumb.

541
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<v Speaker 2>But he was feeding off it. He like after he shoot,

542
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:24.880
<v Speaker 2>he'd put his hand to his ear. He was loving it.

543
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:27.680
<v Speaker 2>And it just kept building and building to this crescendo,

544
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:30.039
<v Speaker 2>to the point where the fans stopped yelling at him

545
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:32.720
<v Speaker 2>because they were like, okay, it's not working. And put

546
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<v Speaker 2>it to Kentucky fans. By the way, it was like

547
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:39.039
<v Speaker 2>forty percent Kentucky fans. Was unbelievable, unreal. I couldn't when

548
00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:41.480
<v Speaker 2>they opened they opened the gates an hour before and

549
00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:44.160
<v Speaker 2>at first it was only blue coming in and I

550
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.440
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, like this is gonna be

551
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:48.960
<v Speaker 2>a blue out, and Oklahoma fans filled it. It ended

552
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:51.359
<v Speaker 2>up being sixty to forty in favor of the home team.

553
00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:54.039
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, still, but yeah, those Oklahoma, especially the students,

554
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:55.799
<v Speaker 2>they were very hard on him, and he was feeding

555
00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:59.799
<v Speaker 2>off it and loving it. And just at that point,

556
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<v Speaker 2>you know, you lose. Jackson LaMotte fouls out with four

557
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:06.079
<v Speaker 2>minutes and isn't giving you much offensively. Jalen Moore is

558
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:08.240
<v Speaker 2>a really good center that Oklahoma has. He was doing

559
00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:10.599
<v Speaker 2>a nice job containing Garrison and Mari in the second

560
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:13.839
<v Speaker 2>half offensively, and it was just okay, take go to

561
00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:16.960
<v Speaker 2>work and you couldn't miss. He was just unreal getting

562
00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:18.319
<v Speaker 2>to the rim. He hit a rainbow three?

563
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Did it all well?

564
00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:22.079
<v Speaker 3>Brandon Garrison's lucky they didn't call it technical solar him

565
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:22.839
<v Speaker 3>going up into that game.

566
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Zero two big what ifs since we last met. One.

567
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<v Speaker 3>What if that Auburn Kentucky game was close and ABC

568
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:31.079
<v Speaker 3>went out?

569
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Did you imagine that? And then what if they would

570
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<v Speaker 1>have stormed the castle?

571
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.559
<v Speaker 3>They probably would have, and Jeff the coorra would have

572
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:41.359
<v Speaker 3>had to answer some angry calls. And then the other

573
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:43.200
<v Speaker 3>what if is what if they would have called a

574
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<v Speaker 3>technical on Garrison. The uproar of Oklahoma getting free throws

575
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:48.680
<v Speaker 3>there would be unreal.

576
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<v Speaker 1>I was staring at my TV at the backs of

577
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the of the officials, and I'm thinking to myself, what

578
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<v Speaker 1>if what if turns around and does that in the arena?

579
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I just thought they were seeing if there was time left.

580
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even realize that's what TV said. They they

581
00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:09.519
<v Speaker 1>allowed us might be a technical foul thing, but then

582
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:10.839
<v Speaker 1>they were like, you know, it could be a bad

583
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>after there's any time on the closs That's what I figured.

584
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 1>There was just like a point three seconds off in

585
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<v Speaker 1>the clock. That deal.

586
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Nope, technically got lucky that he saved the jawing for

587
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the whistle.

588
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:24.079
<v Speaker 1>Which begs the question when is the game over? I

589
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:26.160
<v Speaker 1>guess when they hit triple zeros because if you go back,

590
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.559
<v Speaker 1>but did Garrison it start? I when when did the

591
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:34.599
<v Speaker 1>alleged incident that might have brought a team? When did

592
00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:35.079
<v Speaker 1>that happen?

593
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:37.680
<v Speaker 2>So from there was a local you know TV guy

594
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:40.480
<v Speaker 2>that had a video like from the court level literally

595
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:43.240
<v Speaker 2>you can see as the clock hits triple zeros and

596
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the horn goes off. As soon as that horn goes off,

597
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:49.960
<v Speaker 2>he's in Jamiah fears. Yes, that's what they must have

598
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:52.319
<v Speaker 2>come to the conclusion that it happened after the game.

599
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I guess. So they were looking to see was there

600
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:57.799
<v Speaker 1>time on the clock this Oh, if there was point

601
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>one second left, right, that's a technical and Kentucky loses

602
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.759
<v Speaker 1>the basketball. But but TV was like, could Oklahoma get

603
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:06.039
<v Speaker 1>the ball back? Not so much for a technical foul,

604
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:08.519
<v Speaker 1>but could they have time to put up one more

605
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.079
<v Speaker 1>shot or something. Well, you can't got the rebound though, Yeah,

606
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:14.640
<v Speaker 1>but they were or you know, like the Garrison foul,

607
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:17.680
<v Speaker 1>right yeah, but yeah, but now, but you're right if

608
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>if he said something, if he says something a point, yeah, yeah,

609
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that's a good question. I mean.

610
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<v Speaker 2>And if they lose that game, I mean, that's a

611
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yes, it's squad one, but they're in the fifties, Like,

612
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:31.880
<v Speaker 2>that's not that's a seed drop loss right there.

613
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:35.559
<v Speaker 3>And you know, Rick Patino has made a lot of

614
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:39.880
<v Speaker 3>headlines this year. One of them was, you know, freshman,

615
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm not recruiting freshmen anymore. How can I replace my

616
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:46.759
<v Speaker 3>transfer players with that? Tonight he said that's not his philosophy,

617
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:47.000
<v Speaker 3>But he.

618
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Also said I don't believe that. Yeah.

619
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 3>The other headline that I thought, uh was and now

620
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:55.759
<v Speaker 3>it's it's fading for me that Rick Patino has said

621
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:58.599
<v Speaker 3>is uh, I can't even remember what I was gonna say.

622
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:01.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'll come back to me.

623
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because on

624
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:08.039
<v Speaker 1>the show tonight there was at least two callers who

625
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:12.759
<v Speaker 1>basically implied and suggested that they would like to see

626
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Pope essentially coach more like Rick Bettino. They've been doing

627
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:23.559
<v Speaker 1>that in both philosophy and manner and intense. Yeah, that's

628
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, because, yeah, we're all peeking behind the

629
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:32.319
<v Speaker 1>curtain right because of that series, and it's fascinating, it's

630
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>not surprising, but man, you got to be yourself. I'm

631
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>going to coach like Rick Beatino.

632
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Guys hate phony coaches. Yeah, that's what they don't like.

633
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 2>They want you to be yourself and they'll love you

634
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.319
<v Speaker 2>either way if they're If you're yourself though, even if

635
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>you're losing. The players usually love the coaches, like Mark Soups.

636
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Players I've ever talked to, like in an off setting,

637
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:00.319
<v Speaker 2>love the guy. I agree same thing with Cal. They

638
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>loved him because he is who he is. Maybe the

639
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.000
<v Speaker 2>fans were done with the guy who he is, but

640
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:05.319
<v Speaker 2>he is who he is and that's why they play

641
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 2>so hard for him.

642
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Well and his players love Mark Pope, But if you've

643
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>watched the Saint John's series, you can tell from all

644
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:17.759
<v Speaker 1>the current players. And they've interviewed a bunch of former

645
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:20.839
<v Speaker 1>Louisville players, including Russ Smith, who said, I don't know

646
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:24.279
<v Speaker 1>where I'd be today with that coach b because you

647
00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>know his tough love he makes them better player. And

648
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:29.599
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you because he's on my show every week.

649
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Sean Woods, who hated, as he told me when right

650
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.599
<v Speaker 1>after he was done playing the way Patino treated him,

651
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:41.319
<v Speaker 1>now swears by him absolutely. And Sean to a point,

652
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.759
<v Speaker 1>coached the way Ray We've seen it. Yeah, and he

653
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>went over a little got into some trouble. I got

654
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>in a old trouble. Although what ultimately cost him a

655
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>job at more Ed State was not a Patino kind

656
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 1>of thing. It was an unfair kind of thing. But

657
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of guys believe than that. But

658
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>you you've got to be yourself. You can't just fake

659
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>who you are. And Pope is never gonna be. Pope

660
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 1>said he tried it early in his career. He tried to,

661
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, be that, you know, grind it out kind

662
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:16.319
<v Speaker 1>of in your face kind of coach, because he played

663
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>for a guy like that in college. But remember, every

664
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>time Pope has talked about his influences, he's brought up

665
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:25.079
<v Speaker 1>not just Patino, but the half a dozen NBA guys

666
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 1>he played for, and one of the guys he swears

667
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>by is Larry Larry Bird, and Larry Bird does not

668
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>coach like that or did not coach like that. No,

669
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:33.319
<v Speaker 1>George Carlton, though he sure did.

670
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:37.279
<v Speaker 3>I remembered my point. The other headline Patino was saying

671
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 3>was he didn't have his players do handshake lines.

672
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

673
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.559
<v Speaker 3>I missed that, and that was something that probably shouldn't

674
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.559
<v Speaker 3>have been done in that Oklahoma Kentucky game either with

675
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:49.640
<v Speaker 3>emotions flaring up. But I always thought that was something that,

676
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, the guys should put aside and shake hands

677
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 3>for sportsmanship. But I'm kind of leaning more towards Patino nowadays.

678
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Well.

679
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I think part of that one, though, was as Garrison

680
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 2>wanted to kill everyone, always trying to get hugs from

681
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.240
<v Speaker 2>the managers, like I missed the guys, love you guys.

682
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>That could be the kind of thing where coaches agree,

683
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:10.799
<v Speaker 1>let's see how the game plays out, and if it

684
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>if it's better that they don't have the coaches wave

685
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 1>at each other thanks see you, you know, and you

686
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>go this way and I'll go that way. But I

687
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>do believe when I watch, I mean, we all played

688
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 1>little league baseball. When I watch little league teams do

689
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:27.480
<v Speaker 1>it without beating each other up. I'm like, why can't

690
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:29.559
<v Speaker 1>the grown ups do it? I know they don't do

691
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:32.279
<v Speaker 1>in the pros, although actually, you know where they it's

692
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>not a formal thing. What do you see after an

693
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.759
<v Speaker 1>NFL game when those guys were killing each other a

694
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:40.799
<v Speaker 1>minute before, and they're all out there hugging. And you

695
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>know who hates hockey series? You know, Well, hockey that's

696
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.319
<v Speaker 1>a different animal. But after the series is over, it's

697
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>long after every game you're drinking this. Well, I'm talking

698
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>about play, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but you know

699
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 1>who hates the postgame hugging in college football, mister Jeff Picoor.

700
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I believe it because when came up and when he

701
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>was playing collegeball, you know, they hated their are points

702
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:06.359
<v Speaker 1>that I can't believe these guys are out there shaking

703
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.839
<v Speaker 1>hands and hugging. I hated those guys, you know. But

704
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:10.839
<v Speaker 1>that's just a difference.

705
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:12.920
<v Speaker 2>It's also the portal time too, right, where these guys

706
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 2>aren't necessarily attached to a school.

707
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Some are former teammates. A lot of them are former teammates,

708
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>that's right. Some of these guys played together in a Yeah,

709
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Speaker 1>it's just.

710
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 2>A different animal now, but yeah, I mean Look, there

711
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>was what game was early this season Georgia State where

712
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.519
<v Speaker 2>you had that kid who was related to the duke player. Yeah,

713
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 2>remember he forget his name, Chaz something. Remember Georgia State kid.

714
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 3>Are you talking about when the coach and the sun

715
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:41.680
<v Speaker 3>were at the same time.

716
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm talking about this basketball season Kentucky, Georgia State

717
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.200
<v Speaker 2>where you had that really dirty flagrant foul by a

718
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Georgia State player and he's the nephew of a duke player.

719
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's coming to me now, you know, I do

720
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:53.720
<v Speaker 1>remember that.

721
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 2>But my point, My point was they got through the

722
00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>handshake line without any incident, and that guy intention lea

723
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:01.839
<v Speaker 2>took Amari Williams out.

724
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:06.559
<v Speaker 1>And I vaguely remember that guy being a grown up.

725
00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna step out. When we come back,

726
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.519
<v Speaker 1>we will shift our attention to football because since we

727
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>last convene, Mark Stoops talked to the media and, uh,

728
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>what do you got.

729
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Clash Peters? You remember that incident? Yes, yeah, Clash Peters.

730
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:23.840
<v Speaker 2>And now let me get you. I'll get you that uncle.

731
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:25.679
<v Speaker 1>You get it. After the break, I'll get you his uncles.

732
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll come back for the thrilling conclusion of

733
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that anecdote, Cherokee Parks. I'll save it now, Cherokee Park.

734
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:35.599
<v Speaker 1>There you go, the Christian later. Want to be back

735
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 1>in a minute on the State. Whye, Bbi, all right,

736
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>we're going to slide from basketball over to football because

737
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Mark Stoops had an interesting session with the media and Billy,

738
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.079
<v Speaker 1>I know you've talked about it on your show here locally,

739
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 1>and you've seen a lot of the clips and you

740
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:53.360
<v Speaker 1>read about it, and Aaron was there. I was there

741
00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>right away. I was impressed with his energy, it seems,

742
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 1>and all it did was underscore and I felt bad

743
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>for him how beaten down he was by the end

744
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 1>of last year. I mean, he was a whip puppy.

745
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:11.599
<v Speaker 2>It was every fan that questioned if he really wanted

746
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:13.480
<v Speaker 2>to come back, how to write given how he acted

747
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 2>at the end last year.

748
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>And yet conversely this time.

749
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 2>He seemed like the old Youngstown chippy chip on his shoulder,

750
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:21.480
<v Speaker 2>not gonna get punked again.

751
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Guy. Yeah, it was.

752
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 2>It was a little refreshing, but and he you know,

753
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 2>he still stayed careful. He didn't want to get into

754
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 2>like individually, who's standing out stuff like that, But you know,

755
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>he talked. He there was no sugarcoating how bad last

756
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:36.679
<v Speaker 2>year was, how they needed to change with not only

757
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:40.119
<v Speaker 2>players and bringing in all this new personnel but leadership

758
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.719
<v Speaker 2>and getting that back under control, getting back to that

759
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:46.119
<v Speaker 2>blue collar identity. So I was encouraged to see that

760
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:47.119
<v Speaker 2>energy for sure.

761
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>And if you if you read the transcript and watch

762
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the video it's online, it's fairly evident that he was

763
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 1>not happy in hindsight, and I'm sure why it was

764
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>happening with the tone and tenor in that locker room, yeah,

765
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, among those players. But one of the other

766
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 1>things I really appreciated was the fact that, by my count,

767
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>at least six times he took the blame, you know,

768
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>because people loved him, always pointing the fingers, throwing the

769
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 1>coaches under the throwing the players under the But how

770
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.159
<v Speaker 1>many times did he say that's on me? That goes

771
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>back to the Youngstown. Yeah.

772
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:25.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, one thing I caught and it was a

773
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>question I asked one like John Hale asked two where

774
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 2>it asked about like, for example, I asked about the

775
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>short yard issues they had last Yes, and you could

776
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:35.519
<v Speaker 2>see he was just looking through me. He was like

777
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.960
<v Speaker 2>really pissed off. But he's like that's a fair criticism,

778
00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:40.440
<v Speaker 2>and he said that a couple different times, but you

779
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 2>can also see in his eyes he just memory.

780
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it was good to say. It was good

781
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 1>to see I covered Kentucky football for an all time.

782
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 1>I have never seen a team so bad, so bad

783
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 1>inside the five yard unbelievable Kentucky team.

784
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.239
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so I was you know, they added a

785
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:01.119
<v Speaker 2>sixty running BA who specializes in that.

786
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 1>But it was good.

787
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:05.000
<v Speaker 2>It was the old Mark Stoops that you saw, the

788
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.639
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, twenty eighteen, the really good years.

789
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:09.920
<v Speaker 3>A couple other things I heard him say. Talked about

790
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:12.440
<v Speaker 3>the depth. Maybe in the past they'd spent all their

791
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 3>money on one guy in one position and now they're

792
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:17.480
<v Speaker 3>spreading the love a little bit there so that that

793
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:18.840
<v Speaker 3>would help when injuries come.

794
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 1>And then the age of this team.

795
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 3>He's like, I've got guys that are married there, you know,

796
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:25.679
<v Speaker 3>I've got guys going for their master's degree, you have,

797
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, these are grown twenty five, twenty six year

798
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.119
<v Speaker 3>old men a lot of times, and that's that's just

799
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 3>different from when Mark Mark Stoops started his coaching career.

800
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>So you know, but like I told you, guys, a

801
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 1>week or two ago, and he's clearly come to grips

802
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 1>with it. But I don't think he'll ever unless they

803
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:48.400
<v Speaker 1>looks there are radical changes to nil and portal rules.

804
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>He'll never be able to manage a program the way

805
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.559
<v Speaker 1>he wants to or wanted to the way he did

806
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.559
<v Speaker 1>when he got here, and that is evaluate high school

807
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.559
<v Speaker 1>kids out, recruit, out work, people signed them and developed them.

808
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Now you know the majority of your guys at least

809
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:10.119
<v Speaker 1>now are portal guys. What do they have eleven high

810
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>school kids something like that?

811
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, they signed twenty one, twenty one high school. They

812
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>signed twenty one high school.

813
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>So I got it flipped. Yeah, so they still can

814
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>tell Mark Pube's Mark Pope will do that a million times?

815
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Did it? No?

816
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Stoops is gonna still try to find that happy medium.

817
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:29.239
<v Speaker 2>But luck you signed. I think it was nineteen players

818
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.719
<v Speaker 2>out of the portal and there's more to come after

819
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:32.280
<v Speaker 2>spring ball.

820
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought there were thirty one new players. Yes that,

821
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm sorry, just for spring and rollies.

822
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:42.199
<v Speaker 2>There are ten more freshmen coming and okay, I see, yeah,

823
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:44.719
<v Speaker 2>ten more freshmen are coming in June. For now, it's

824
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:45.239
<v Speaker 2>eleven on.

825
00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:50.639
<v Speaker 1>I like the answer he gave me at the very

826
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>end or one of the because I waited. Mine was

827
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of a big picture question, so I wanted to

828
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:57.679
<v Speaker 1>wait on you guys, and we knew we had him

829
00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.880
<v Speaker 1>for X amount of minutes. But Aaron and and several

830
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of the other reporters had more specific questions about positions

831
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:07.880
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. But my question basically was are you still

832
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>enjoying this? You know, are you still enjoying your job

833
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:16.039
<v Speaker 1>as a professional college head football coach? And that's when

834
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 1>he said, and that's it's a quote that made the rounds.

835
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm enjoying it as much as I ever have. And

836
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:24.679
<v Speaker 1>that sounds like something you say when you're trying to

837
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>be brave. And if I just read it, I'd think,

838
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:32.559
<v Speaker 1>based on my issue or my image, I'll be thinking,

839
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<v Speaker 1>you know, what are you selling? But his body language

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00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.079
<v Speaker 1>and his and his energy level tell told me that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, he's ready, he's ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's good and reassuring to hear it, because I

843
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<v Speaker 3>would think inversely, I would think, because how much the

844
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.519
<v Speaker 3>game has changed, that Kentucky would be Mark Soups's last job.

845
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<v Speaker 1>You know, if if he's got.

846
00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:55.199
<v Speaker 3>That energy, maybe he would have the energy to restart

847
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:57.039
<v Speaker 3>somewhere else. We know he flirted with A and M

848
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:58.039
<v Speaker 3>just a couple of years ago.

849
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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's this is there's a little bit of this. I've

851
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<v Speaker 3>got to see it before I believe it.

852
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<v Speaker 1>Again. That unfair to see it in stoops or see

853
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 1>the team, how the team.

854
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Functions, seem to have the team have success, no question,

855
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.559
<v Speaker 3>before I can buy back into the energy.

856
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<v Speaker 1>Look at their schedule. They have a lot of proving

857
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:20.840
<v Speaker 1>it to do. Yeah, but that's where we are. And

858
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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this before. Coming off a four and

859
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:27.840
<v Speaker 1>eighth season, absolutely, but the two seasons prior seven wins

860
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.559
<v Speaker 1>in a ball game. But you know, whoever said it

861
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.679
<v Speaker 1>first was right. He's raised the ceiling. But he's raised

862
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 1>the floor. And again, you guys get tired of hearing

863
00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.599
<v Speaker 1>me say it. But how many times through the years,

864
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<v Speaker 1>if Kentucky could just win six or seven, I'd be happy.

865
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Know you wouldn't because as soon as they did. When

866
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Mummy did that, Mommy went to back to back ball

867
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:52.159
<v Speaker 1>games and people complain Mommy goes catching them. They all

868
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>go to the out back ball. Everybody had a great

869
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:56.800
<v Speaker 1>time in Tampa. It's a good game at Penn State.

870
00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>They lose, but so what the next year they lose

871
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 1>their entire O line, everybody. They lose Tim Copps, they

872
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:07.599
<v Speaker 1>lose Craig Yeast, they lose keyos Tamp, they lose everybody

873
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>off that offense. Dust my man, Dusty Bonner is the

874
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:16.800
<v Speaker 1>starting QB. And somehow they won six games and went

875
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>to the Music City Bowl. And people grumbled because you know,

876
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.800
<v Speaker 1>fans get spoiled. When aren't we going to a bigger

877
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Bowl game? You know, you're lucky. You're in Nashville partying

878
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:31.519
<v Speaker 1>right now. Has But that's just the way sports are

879
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.119
<v Speaker 1>when you raise the floor. Yep.

880
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:37.960
<v Speaker 3>But you know, since then, a lot has changed. Kentucky's

881
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:39.719
<v Speaker 3>got a lot more resources.

882
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:42.320
<v Speaker 1>But so does everybody else. It's the problem.

883
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:46.280
<v Speaker 3>We've also got Texas and Oklahoma in the league. Now, no,

884
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:50.159
<v Speaker 3>it's Oklahoma a power move too. Jim Naggy head of

885
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.239
<v Speaker 3>the Senior Bowl becoming their GM. How about that they're

886
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.159
<v Speaker 3>going to be they'll get it going again. Yeah, No,

887
00:41:55.400 --> 00:42:01.719
<v Speaker 3>that's that's Kentucky missed an opportunity when Brooks was leaving.

888
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:05.599
<v Speaker 3>Joker was here early, Mark Stoops. The rest of the

889
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:07.880
<v Speaker 3>league was not the rest, but some of the league

890
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:12.440
<v Speaker 3>was backing up. Florida, backed up Tennessee, backed up Georgia.

891
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:15.639
<v Speaker 3>Georgia for a while, Yeah, backed up, and Kentucky didn't

892
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:16.480
<v Speaker 3>take advantage.

893
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.559
<v Speaker 1>And it's not that Kentucky was backing up. Kentucky was

894
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:24.159
<v Speaker 1>capable of winning those games, but just didn't get it done.

895
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and when you were in school, Yeah, well they

896
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 2>started to you know, they passed Florida for a while.

897
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Sure they didn't pass they passed Tennessee and the standings

898
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.119
<v Speaker 2>she just not head to head. But yeah, they passed Florida.

899
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.920
<v Speaker 2>They got the South Carolina missoo. They owned those teams.

900
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.840
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't even in Vandy too. Like those were from

901
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen to twenty one. They were eleven and one

902
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.119
<v Speaker 2>combined against Vanda swing games. They were just win they

903
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:48.599
<v Speaker 2>were wins. So and now you go look at that

904
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:51.280
<v Speaker 2>schedule they've got to play in twenty twenty five, and

905
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:54.800
<v Speaker 2>you know you're gonna probably beat Tennessee Tech, and uh,

906
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:58.199
<v Speaker 2>there's another one in there that's a couple something like

907
00:42:58.199 --> 00:42:59.960
<v Speaker 2>that Eastern Mission.

908
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:03.039
<v Speaker 1>But you know, like Toledo just beat a SEC school

909
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:04.239
<v Speaker 1>last year. That's true.

910
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Louisville's getting a lot better, and we all know the

911
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 2>eight teams on the SEC schedules.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's your third what if of the show? What if

913
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<v Speaker 1>Will Levis doesn't get hurt on the road at all? Miss?

914
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, could be in a very different spot today

915
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<v Speaker 1>with how we look at Mark Stewarts just talking to

916
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<v Speaker 1>somebody about that over the weekend, that our closed Kentucky

917
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<v Speaker 1>game last year to doing what it wanted to do,

918
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:31.960
<v Speaker 1>what it meant to do, because people don't realize what

919
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:34.639
<v Speaker 1>the effect that that had on the Will Will Levis's

920
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:39.480
<v Speaker 1>second year, no doubt, no question, And that was a

921
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:41.559
<v Speaker 1>game they should have won as well, even.

922
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:46.960
<v Speaker 2>With them hurt the you know, ilegal illegal yeah, legal

923
00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:47.679
<v Speaker 2>legal motion.

924
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah uh. There have been too many moments and you

925
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:54.440
<v Speaker 1>guys are fortunate that you haven't been around here. You've

926
00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 1>been around here for a while, but not as long

927
00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>that these old school Kentucky things have been happening. And

928
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.159
<v Speaker 1>that's one of them. You know when when stuff like

929
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>what what's next? What can happen next? And then something

930
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:12.679
<v Speaker 1>happens that that's been missing for quite a while. That yeah,

931
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<v Speaker 1>well you still should have hit Christian in that end zone.

932
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<v Speaker 1>I had to do it over again. Forearm shiver, baby,

933
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<v Speaker 1>that's right, I was gonna do it. Thanks for joining us,

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<v Speaker 1>Rayaron and Billy Dick Gabriel that said, good night from

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<v Speaker 1>Lexington
