Speaker 1: Hell everybody through the facilities of the iHeartMedia megaplexis is
Speaker 1: Dick Gabriel. This is the state wide edition of the
Speaker 1: Big Blue Insiety. He heard comments from Mark, Pope, Kenny Brooks.
Speaker 1: It's March madness, but yours truly, Aaron Gershon and Billy
Speaker 1: Rutledge stay with us for the state wide BBI Border
Speaker 1: to Border. It is the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel,
Speaker 1: Aaron Gershon and Billy Rutledge. Let's take care of Billy,
Speaker 1: the most important part of the show. Happy birthday, mister Gershan,
Speaker 1: Thank you very much sharing your birthday with Tom Leach?
Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, We've been texting back and forth and he was
Speaker 2: quizzing me on some Beatles music trivia, which I told
Speaker 2: him might fail.
Speaker 1: So why was he quizzing you on Beatles.
Speaker 2: Sixty four years for them? I don't know if today's
Speaker 2: their birthday too't.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, but I thought I knew it was an
Speaker 1: interesting one. I know a lot about the Beatles, but
Speaker 1: I just watched he had another documentary about him. But anyhow,
Speaker 1: I'm not the guy to ask. Yeah, and uh, in
Speaker 1: all fairness, Aaron's catching up on the Mark Pope comments
Speaker 1: tonight because Pops took you to Jeff Ruby's right next
Speaker 1: to awesome, ye, which is great. But Billy and I
Speaker 1: were talking off air a little bit, and you've seen
Speaker 1: some of the comments on Twitter about fans Billy with,
Speaker 1: you know, the velvet hammer, the big smile in their voice.
Speaker 1: But coach could just try doing this or that. I mean,
Speaker 1: this was classic coaches show stuff tonight, wasn't.
Speaker 3: It's very It's very respectful by the respect the I
Speaker 3: love you, but we know there was a few of
Speaker 3: those coming after the beatdown against Auburn. Yeah, despite them
Speaker 3: being the number one team in the country, they did
Speaker 3: look great, Dick. I mean in what I saw on
Speaker 3: the game. I mean, since we missed the last eleven minutes.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen anything like that in your years
Speaker 3: of television, Dick.
Speaker 1: Of a game being knocked off? Yeah, probably, but not
Speaker 1: nothing like that. You talk about high profile. ABC buys
Speaker 1: the game from ESPN, which I still don't understand because
Speaker 1: they own ESPN, but I guess one side of the
Speaker 1: hall pays the other side at all. Anyhow, they went
Speaker 1: to great lengths to not only get that game, but
Speaker 1: do some serious pre production and all that stuff, and
Speaker 1: they bring in the A team Showman and Billis and
Speaker 1: I was telling Aaron that, you know, I came home
Speaker 1: from baseball yesterday and I was watching a game so
Speaker 1: I could comment on it, and I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: timeline on my dvar and I'm like, wait, it says
Speaker 1: there's only twelve more minutes, and I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it goes blank and there's
Speaker 1: a hockey screen and hockey. So, man, we heard about it.
Speaker 1: I was at baseball, but we heard about it. And
Speaker 1: our producer for the UK Baseball they're in Reperina right now.
Speaker 1: There's that brand new facility over there, and so we
Speaker 1: were seeing texts and hearing things about, oh, they switched
Speaker 1: to hockey, and people thought it was because the game
Speaker 1: was so bad. They're not that stupid. And immediately our producer,
Speaker 1: who was obviously, you know, connected to the people in Reperina,
Speaker 1: said yeah, they had a fire. I'm like, oh goodness,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. No one was hurt, so that's good.
Speaker 2: It was a blessing for all of us in attendance
Speaker 2: at rep Arena because it meant the officials could not
Speaker 2: go back to the monitor for a meaningless foul. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they tried three times and they were like, got no monitor.
Speaker 1: Well again, we you know, we hear from Mark Pope
Speaker 1: about that somebody had brought it up. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: said that I did. But are there too many? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know it's not up to the officials to
Speaker 1: decide what is reviewed and how, because as we were
Speaker 1: talking prior to the show, there were games won and
Speaker 1: loss that should not have been including UK LSU three
Speaker 1: or four years ago. Yep, that's right. I was. That
Speaker 1: was one of the last games they went to as
Speaker 1: a fan. Yep. So boy that was God. That was
Speaker 1: maybe fun. That was cool. That was the twenty eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 1: That was the Tyler hero year. Okay, So for people
Speaker 1: who don't remember LSU scored the winning bucket on basket interference,
Speaker 1: absolutely did. And we're all looking around, going they'll take
Speaker 1: that down. Yep, and we're all looking around and game
Speaker 1: over yep. And later on we got word because I
Speaker 1: don't think there was a pool reporter situation, but they
Speaker 1: said we couldn't by rule, we could not review that.
Speaker 1: That's correct. Now they can now they can't. That's the
Speaker 1: Kentucky rule. Just like there were a couple of recruiting
Speaker 1: rules and were Billy Gillespie rules. That's a Kentucky rule,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's is it bad? Do you take
Speaker 1: that away? It's just because we had the same discussion
Speaker 1: to get it right, get it right. But if you
Speaker 1: only have the Mark Pope idea of one challenge, I
Speaker 1: think it should be two. I think what's the NBA?
Speaker 1: Does anyone know? I don't. I think it's one. I
Speaker 1: think it's is it one? And then you win it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. I am.
Speaker 2: I am definitely forgetting it right. But it's again you
Speaker 2: we were talking about before the show. Baseball first picture
Speaker 2: was at one o'clock. They were done before Kentucky Auburn,
Speaker 2: South Carolina, Arkansas tipped at one o'clock down in Columbia.
Speaker 2: It was a slaughtering. But besides the point that game
Speaker 2: ended forty seven minutes before Kentucky Auburn.
Speaker 1: And I mean I was there, mind you, the fire
Speaker 1: in the truck didn't delay the game. The Kentucky no
Speaker 1: nobody knew. The first half took an hour and twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes. That's unaccepted. That can't happen. It's a bad
Speaker 1: product other way of speaking of an Arkansas game. Guess
Speaker 1: who didn't show for his postgame? Oh suppressed, first time
Speaker 1: this year, but sucker. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyhow, Also, I was I was obviously in Oklahoma. Wasn't
Speaker 2: there a situation there where Texas A and M and
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt took so long in the last minute? Oh yeah
Speaker 2: that so Kentucky fans have seen like thirty one minutes
Speaker 2: of their team on TV.
Speaker 1: In the last two days. Yeah, it was what billy
Speaker 1: ten minutes in.
Speaker 3: That game didn't start on the TV until eleven minutes in,
Speaker 3: So I mean we were under ten minutes.
Speaker 1: They held We saw it. They held tip off, Yes
Speaker 1: they did. It was a five minutes Yeah. Oh the
Speaker 1: game didn't tips on nine ten and Norman or eight
Speaker 1: ten Central Time. Yeah yeah, so I don't know. But
Speaker 1: what's the answer, you know, or do you let it go? Well?
Speaker 3: There's also a lot of hostility towards these officials from
Speaker 3: college basketball fans because of Mark Pope's point that the
Speaker 3: all of the burden is on officials right now. If
Speaker 3: you were to give challenges to coaches, then you know,
Speaker 3: we could probably see a few more missed calls, but
Speaker 3: ultimately probably speed the game up by twenty thirty minutes,
Speaker 3: and I'm for that. I mean, we got what was it,
Speaker 3: two hours and forty minutes for this last one, So
Speaker 3: that has got to be improved in ESPN has got
Speaker 3: to start scheduling better on TV if they're gonna slotting it. Yeh, yeah,
Speaker 3: the games are two and a half hours long. They're
Speaker 3: not two hours long, and so despite five minute slides,
Speaker 3: you're missing the beginnings of games if you don't know
Speaker 3: the streaming listen in.
Speaker 1: That the schools. Would do schools agree to start their
Speaker 1: gamet half an hour later because of TV? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: We know that ESPN's just trying to schedule as many
Speaker 3: as possible.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, money, But does ESPN have the muscle to
Speaker 1: tell the schools you're going to be on and here's
Speaker 1: what time we've got you slated? Right? You know, we've
Speaker 1: selected your game for the eight to thirty time slot,
Speaker 1: not the eight o'clock time slot anymore, you know. So
Speaker 1: you know, my guess is the TV rules the roost
Speaker 1: because they're right in the checks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean they're already slotted to a degree, right,
Speaker 3: so we would just be a more of a staggered
Speaker 3: start for exactly these games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know it's come down to this for
Speaker 1: the fans. Okay, do you want to wait twenty minutes
Speaker 1: to watch your beloved team tip off or miss the
Speaker 1: first ten minutes of the game? List' it? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: unless you have ESPN plus something about it. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And there are people I refuse to use the app
Speaker 1: or I refuse to use see, well, that's fine. It's
Speaker 1: your choice, you know. But and if you if that
Speaker 1: helps you, you know, good on you. But anyway, back
Speaker 1: to the game. My thought, and of course Aaron, you
Speaker 1: were up in the rafters and Billy, I don't know
Speaker 1: how much you had a chance to watch as you
Speaker 1: were managing the game listening the radio. I know you
Speaker 1: were listening, but I felt right away I thought, these
Speaker 1: guys are intimidated. Oh yeah, now you know it happened
Speaker 1: at a certain point. That was a ball game until
Speaker 1: there were five minutes left in the first half.
Speaker 2: Yes, Kentucky, well, Kentucky had a I think they led
Speaker 2: for a whole nineteen seconds, but they cut it down
Speaker 2: to six.
Speaker 1: I think they felt you had pined by sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Miles Kelly, and this took the year out
Speaker 2: of both the building in Kentucky. He goes finishes nine
Speaker 2: for fourteen, thirty points, a wonderful game. He also banks
Speaker 2: two threes, not just banked them on back to back
Speaker 2: possessions off.
Speaker 1: Balance off seventy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was fall literally he was falling. It was
Speaker 2: like are you tripping? No, throwing it in the basket
Speaker 2: from thirty feet out. But so you could just tell
Speaker 2: the energy from the team got zapped a little bit.
Speaker 2: They were definitely and I think something that needs It's
Speaker 2: not an excuse, but I think something that needs to
Speaker 2: get overlooked. And it sounded like Mark Pope talked about
Speaker 2: in his show Jackson Robinson. It sounded like, not only
Speaker 2: was it an injury and knew what happened in the
Speaker 2: moment was very emotional for the whole team. I think
Speaker 2: what you say described him as inconsolable. So I think
Speaker 2: that's something they didn't get back from Norman to like
Speaker 2: three am, and they Thursday morning and having that deflating
Speaker 2: news probably already was weighing on them. And then to
Speaker 2: come out in this game. The energy is great, You're
Speaker 2: getting some stops early. I think it was only five
Speaker 2: four five to four at the first stop, and then
Speaker 2: a kid comes in and hits two circuit shots.
Speaker 1: But meanwhile Kentucky was playing some of the worst basketball.
Speaker 1: Terrible it has all I thought the game turnovers just
Speaker 1: ugly turn the first I mean the first six minutes
Speaker 1: of the first half, second half, excuse me, they had
Speaker 1: six unforced turnovers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I questioned the game plan a little bit.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the game planner, if
Speaker 2: it was the nerves. But they their game plan in
Speaker 2: this game, which we've heard all year, we're gonna shoot
Speaker 2: thirty five threes. We know it hasn't happened. They tried
Speaker 2: to muscle in their way to the paint. They tried
Speaker 2: to go in the paint in Kentucky, Kentucky. Yes, and
Speaker 2: Auburn's got obviously jan I Brew might be the player
Speaker 2: of the year down there. They have didn't play like it,
Speaker 2: didn't play like it. You never play as well here. No,
Speaker 2: and then they have the other kid is like Johnson,
Speaker 2: Cheney Johnson, who's are our dyl and Cardwall I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: like they have some monsters there out in foul trouble.
Speaker 2: But I just they took seventeen threes that you're not.
Speaker 2: If you're built to shoot thirty a game, you only
Speaker 2: get seventeen off, you only make four.
Speaker 1: If some of those were really ill advised, I thought
Speaker 1: they forced And exactly so, Auburn did a great did
Speaker 1: a great job running Kentucky off the three point line.
Speaker 1: Kentucky tried to wild their way in the paint and failed.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watch it, and Billy, I
Speaker 1: know you're listening to radio. But Billis made a great
Speaker 1: point when he said Kentucky has not been able to
Speaker 1: run offense because of Auburn's defense, and.
Speaker 2: They unfortunately too, though they did get some good looks
Speaker 2: at the frame, they just couldn't finish.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The butler, Butler, you can't raise his left arm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just and he admitted after the game it's
Speaker 2: still you know, oh yeah, it's still it's hard. And
Speaker 2: he looked better in the second half, look more comfortable.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. It was an all system's failure.
Speaker 2: And Auburn, by the way.
Speaker 1: They're really good, especially when they're hitting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of points Aaron touched on that. I
Speaker 3: was going to say, the beginning of the second half
Speaker 3: was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I mean it was melt out.
Speaker 3: Seven possessions, six turnovers, not a single shot from the
Speaker 3: fields of them unforced, right, unbelievable. Uh, And it led
Speaker 3: to Goose Givens saying on the radio that at times,
Speaker 3: I mean Kentucky just didn't look like they knew what
Speaker 3: they were doing. I mean they were rattled if the
Speaker 3: moment was too big for them. But you know, we've
Speaker 3: seen a significant drop off when it comes to the
Speaker 3: bench play for Kentucky, and I think we saw that
Speaker 3: again where they only scored five bench points. And if
Speaker 3: Jackson Robinson is not going to be available for this team,
Speaker 3: the trio of Colin Chandler, Travis Perry and Trent Noah,
Speaker 3: one of the three is going to have to have
Speaker 3: a good night. Along with otega Oway getting his normal
Speaker 3: double digits, Kobe Bray hit.
Speaker 1: That's about way he was. Just he was off. But
Speaker 1: Billy and I were talking going into the season, and
Speaker 1: you look at big picture, you know, they're a five
Speaker 1: hundred team in the SEC. Uh, they're respected nationally, But
Speaker 1: in terms of wins and losses, it's basically what we
Speaker 1: were expecting. It's just exactly who saw the quad one
Speaker 1: wins coming. And then the losses to the inferior teams
Speaker 1: with air quotes good league. But then who saw the injuries?
Speaker 1: You know, if I told you in November, okay, by
Speaker 1: the time March rulls around, you're going to be missing
Speaker 1: uh for an extended period. Your top three perimeter players
Speaker 1: in Robinson, Creasa, and Butler. Now they get Butler back.
Speaker 1: But as you just said, he's at it what seventy
Speaker 1: He claims that he said eighty. He's exaggerated. He's at
Speaker 1: seventy to seventy. When a guy tells you ways one
Speaker 1: ninety five. But anyhow, if I had told and then
Speaker 1: Billy to your point, if I said, and by the way,
Speaker 1: they're going to really need to lean on the true freshman,
Speaker 1: we would we would be thinking, oh this this could
Speaker 1: be ugly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not well that they've they've progressed. And
Speaker 3: that's a credit to Pope for not limiting his rotation.
Speaker 3: And he admitted tonight he maybe limited it too much
Speaker 3: versus Auburn and those guys played too many minutes.
Speaker 1: I thought that was fascinating. Doesn't want to hear it,
Speaker 1: But it's okay, who's who's making a cost on the sideline?
Speaker 2: Look this is and this was a known with Pope.
Speaker 2: This is what he did at b YU, and he
Speaker 2: said he was going to do it from day one.
Speaker 2: That you played eleven guys at b YU last year,
Speaker 2: so on paper you're probably thinking inferior talent already. So
Speaker 2: that's how he coaches. And look, Amary Williams, you had
Speaker 2: to keep him on the floor in that game because
Speaker 2: he shut down Jani Broom. He really did nine points
Speaker 2: in five rebounds.
Speaker 1: I got Broom from what you know? What do I know?
Speaker 1: But it looked to me like he was pressing Mary.
Speaker 1: I'm a physic accounty. Yeah, I want to prove myself
Speaker 1: against to Mars and how many guys seven foot two
Speaker 1: sixty is Broom faces? It is?
Speaker 2: It is interesting with Broom. All three games he's played
Speaker 2: against Kentucky going back to the Cali era have not
Speaker 2: been good. And he was at Morehead State. I wonder
Speaker 2: if it's like in his head, like I got to
Speaker 2: prove you guys passed on me out.
Speaker 1: Of the portal. But everybody passed, I know, except for
Speaker 1: Bruce Pearl. Going to say Bruce Pearl felt like he
Speaker 1: had something to prove. Yeah, that's first. Ala Perry passed
Speaker 1: on him. Yes on. Oh, I wonder if he even
Speaker 1: had a shot at him.
Speaker 2: I remember when his name went in the portal of
Speaker 2: a lot of the there's just like the simple Oh,
Speaker 2: it's got to be Kentucky. He's at Morehead, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it just never came before you. But Cal was also
Speaker 2: very late to the portal game.
Speaker 1: Well that's true. Yeah, we're gonna step I will come
Speaker 1: back and talk more Kentucky basketball. We'll touch on football
Speaker 1: as well, maybe even a little baseball down the stretch.
Speaker 1: Five in a week for the Wildcats and an incredible
Speaker 1: performance by a sophomore pitcher. All of that and more
Speaker 1: coming up on the state wide BBI from Pikeville to Paducah.
Speaker 1: It is the statewide Big Blue and Sider Dick Gabriel,
Speaker 1: Billy Rutley, Jaron Gershawn. We're talking about Kentucky. He's lost
Speaker 1: to Auburn and now coming up next to his LSU.
Speaker 1: And we know that Jackson Robinson is having surgery this week,
Speaker 1: so he has definitely done for the I thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting too that Pope tonight said that he was
Speaker 1: given the option of surgery a week or two ago,
Speaker 1: but they also said, if you want to try to
Speaker 1: play through it, give it, give it a shot. And
Speaker 1: he was doing okay until he fell on the floor.
Speaker 1: He was actually having a pretty shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean during warm ups, I was there, he
Speaker 2: didn't It's like, oh, this guy's back. He wasn't missing.
Speaker 2: And then he I think he started. I think he
Speaker 2: went three for seven in the field until.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he looked pretty good. So uh, but now you know,
Speaker 1: you got to put that behind you. I really believe.
Speaker 1: And nothing's a given. Well, of course, every win is big.
Speaker 1: Now Goose is given. That's true. Uh, for seating purposes, man,
Speaker 1: they got to you got to protect your home court.
Speaker 2: Can't lose this, No you can't. Yeah, it's a borderline
Speaker 2: quad three game. They're eighty two in the net lest
Speaker 2: I checked. So you really can't lose this one. And
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the NA tournament seating is more important,
Speaker 2: but SEC tournament they go zero to two this week.
Speaker 2: It's almost a guarantee you're playing on Wednesday. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: fans want to start on no.
Speaker 1: And that's the way conference tournaments are. And and you know,
Speaker 1: people love him air quotes but complain about him all
Speaker 1: the time. It seems like they can only hurt you
Speaker 1: unless you're one of the half nine. That's right. You know,
Speaker 1: if your team has got to play its way in
Speaker 1: off the bubble or play your way into the tournament,
Speaker 1: the NCA tournament, then you need the conference tournament. A
Speaker 1: team like Kentucky. I remember back we got Duke up
Speaker 1: on the on the telly here, but more than once,
Speaker 1: Skrzyzewsky's saying, you know, if you lose early in the tournament,
Speaker 1: it means more rest. You mean more in your conference tournament.
Speaker 1: You know, you get more rest in prep time going into.
Speaker 2: No one loved losing the SEC turn more than John
Speaker 2: cal Perry, but he never did nod well. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then he couldn't win tournament game. Remember he said, get
Speaker 2: to go home and kiss my dogs. Yeah, a little
Speaker 2: house on the prayer.
Speaker 1: I get to go watch a little hoss in the prayer. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, Kentucky's it's just different with that tournament though,
Speaker 2: with how they sell out in Nashville. Oh, and they
Speaker 2: come out and Kentucky has not won an SEC tournament
Speaker 2: game in Nashville since twenty nineteen because the twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two tournament was in Tampa, so they won that one
Speaker 2: game against Andy and then they lost to Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Was where was the COVID year where Nashville they lost?
Speaker 1: Supposed to be, Yes, there was supposed to be in Nashville,
Speaker 1: but there was no tournaments lost, a tournament, not a game.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, they one game, right game, the opening game? Right? Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Kentucky has not gone to Nashville in front of
Speaker 2: that sold out basically all Blue Arena and won a
Speaker 2: game there since twenty nineteen, and they haven't. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm I don't think they're gonna win the SEC tournament
Speaker 2: this year, but twenty eighteen, their last SEC tournament win
Speaker 2: was in Saint Louis, So they actually haven't won the
Speaker 2: SEC tournament in Nashville since twenty seventeen. Isn't that crazy
Speaker 2: to think about?
Speaker 3: This would be a good year, though, to have success
Speaker 3: in that tournament, no question, just because of the you know,
Speaker 3: I think we'll look back on this season as the
Speaker 3: year the SEC was the greatest basketball conference. And if
Speaker 3: you could maybe make the weekend of that tournament, I
Speaker 3: think you could look back a little bit more fondly
Speaker 3: on the season. If you were to get bounced by
Speaker 3: Mississippis State in the first round.
Speaker 2: Look, if they end up, if they go one in one,
Speaker 2: more likely than not they'll be the eighth seed. They'll
Speaker 2: play their first game at noon on Thursday. If they
Speaker 2: win Thursday, probably Mississippi State. They play Auburn again. If
Speaker 2: you go and somehow beat Auburn on Friday, even if
Speaker 2: you lose, I'm not saying it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Auburn is one of the best teams I've ever seen
Speaker 1: a burse. Yeah, but you know what, if they play
Speaker 1: Auburn again, I firmly believe they will play much much better.
Speaker 1: After looking at this energy wasn't there No, And you
Speaker 1: got to think they're embarrassed. They got punked, they got punked,
Speaker 1: and yeah, they the energy was lacking. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Pope talked, but went through all the theories after the game.
Speaker 2: Was it, you know, the late return to Oklahoma? Was
Speaker 2: it the Jackson news? What could it have been? But
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, he didn't have those guys ready to
Speaker 2: fight and bring what they needed to against Aubeign. And look,
Speaker 2: Auburn's really, really good and they'll be hard to beat,
Speaker 2: but there are a lot of.
Speaker 1: Teams that play. South Carolina took them to the wire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Arkansas took them to the wire. Like their scores, if
Speaker 1: you go look at them, there's some blowout wins and
Speaker 1: you tip your cap. But there's gonna be a matchup issue.
Speaker 1: But I think part of it to your point about
Speaker 1: about the end, and I was gonna ask you about
Speaker 1: that because not being there, you can't really see the
Speaker 1: body language terrible. But I wondered it seemed like a
Speaker 1: game where something they had to get off to a
Speaker 1: good start, something good had to happen for Kentucky to
Speaker 1: feed off the enthusiasm of the crowd and each other.
Speaker 1: And not only did it not happen, something bizarrely bad.
Speaker 1: Kid was thrown in three pointers.
Speaker 2: Throw them from the ocean. Yeah, so yeah, the body
Speaker 2: language wasn't great. I mean it stayed okay. And when
Speaker 2: they went on that run and cut it to six,
Speaker 2: Brea has the dunk, they were pretty amped up. And
Speaker 2: then as soon as Auburn kind of closed the door
Speaker 2: on them, what was fifteen point halftime lead, but.
Speaker 1: You know, Auburn on the next possession turned it over.
Speaker 1: They sure did, and Kentucky couldn't take advantage of Kentucky
Speaker 1: cut it to six, Auburn turned it over.
Speaker 2: And never got closer than six, maybe five. Maybe it
Speaker 2: was five at one point, but I don't think it
Speaker 2: got closer than that.
Speaker 3: Now, would love to know in the history of basketball
Speaker 3: how often there's been back to back bank degrees.
Speaker 2: I was I was having a conversation with Ice. If
Speaker 2: you're out there getting busy, I was having you know,
Speaker 2: we on the staff broadcast. You get so much good
Speaker 2: stuff on there. And the one thing I'm like, can
Speaker 2: you plead us ask add bank threes? I just want
Speaker 2: to see how many they've had?
Speaker 1: Man? And those were those were almost desperation shots. What sure?
Speaker 2: The first one was high off the glass, the second
Speaker 2: one was like and didn't the guy pass almost between
Speaker 2: his legs?
Speaker 1: And by the way, when I was looking at the
Speaker 1: stat broadcast sight after the game four, I had a
Speaker 1: chance to watch the video, I was amazed at the
Speaker 1: rebound numbers. Kentucky crushed them on the porch. Yes, then
Speaker 1: again Auburn made almost all the shot true. But then
Speaker 1: my eye dropped down to turnovers.
Speaker 2: Eighteen eighteen eighty eight, eight eight and Auburn only assisted
Speaker 2: I think he, I think they. I think Auburn was
Speaker 2: an eight assistant turned.
Speaker 1: Getting this You don't get an assistant a thirty foot
Speaker 1: bank three pointers, right, So you're right eight eight eight eight. Wow.
Speaker 1: Well they've got to uh figure it out. And going
Speaker 1: into the SEC tournament, I think fans would love it
Speaker 1: if they won a game. Then if they lose to
Speaker 1: a team like whatever, they'd be understanding. Get your first
Speaker 1: winning Bristone Arena on six years. But it's and they lost.
Speaker 1: What year was that they lost? Was it was it
Speaker 1: the twenty twelve teams, Yes, they lost, and Andy beat him
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen when they went to the final four
Speaker 1: the national championship game, they lost as well. But it's
Speaker 1: gonna be tougher. I think to win the SEC Tournament
Speaker 1: than to win the nca Tournament. That's how good this
Speaker 1: league is because the best teams in the country get
Speaker 1: a couple of bunnies to open up the nca tournament.
Speaker 1: But SEC and you get rest, plenty of rest. Not
Speaker 1: this one. It's gonna be a war, yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: what you've got to get at least one by and
Speaker 1: maybe two if you can. Might have fourteen SEC teams
Speaker 1: in the NCAA Tournament. I was up to that fourteen.
Speaker 3: I will take a little credit for Brandon Garrison's game
Speaker 3: versus Olah, he was awesome. You remember, I was kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, saying that MARII should probably play a little
Speaker 3: bit more because Garrison just doesn't have it motive listening.
Speaker 1: Or you motivate it, because I mean, maybe it was
Speaker 1: just much less Brandon Garrett.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, maybe that applies to what
Speaker 3: he did in the Auburn game, but it does not
Speaker 3: apply to what he did versus Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: He was great.
Speaker 2: Oh man, here's another favorable matchup tomorrow night if he
Speaker 2: can take advantage because l s U they have some
Speaker 2: really nice players in the backcourt. Uh, front love Damon Collins.
Speaker 1: I'm happy.
Speaker 2: I hope you gets a nice reception. But you know,
Speaker 2: Berdie Garrison mar Period.
Speaker 1: Touched on this early. We need to talk about it
Speaker 1: after the break. Uh, not to be laying everything that
Speaker 1: o' take away? What's the what's the opposite of giving
Speaker 1: him as flowers, give him as weeds? I don't know,
Speaker 1: had a terrible game after.
Speaker 2: A brilliant game, one of the most best individual performances
Speaker 2: I've seen in a long time.
Speaker 1: Agree more to come and the stay wide, bb I
Speaker 1: stay with us. We'll be right back border to border,
Speaker 1: Pikeville to Paduca. It is a statewide edition of the
Speaker 1: Big Booing Sider. Dick Gabrielle, Aaron Gershan, Billy Rutledge. We
Speaker 1: have spent a lot of time, of course, slicing and
Speaker 1: dicing on the Auburn game. But since we met last
Speaker 1: Wildcats won at Oklahoma and that was one of those
Speaker 1: games that you're watching it and Aaron, you were out
Speaker 1: there and I'm thinking, well, they gave it a good try,
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know what would he down
Speaker 1: five or something.
Speaker 2: They were down seventy seven to seventy two. I forget
Speaker 2: how much time was on the clock five.
Speaker 1: You know, to use the oft used cliche. Now that's
Speaker 1: why cliches are off used. H letting go of the
Speaker 1: rope a little bit. It's not that they were playing poorly.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma started hitting shots and Kentucky missed a few, and
Speaker 1: then Oway had one of literally the greatest games in
Speaker 1: UK history. It was unreal.
Speaker 2: Eighteen of their last eighteen points in the last eight
Speaker 2: and a half minutes.
Speaker 1: And you've got stad broadcast up and you've got your notebook,
Speaker 1: so you're charting, and you realized in real time it's happening, Billy,
Speaker 1: Did you realize that was going on?
Speaker 3: He was hitting it until like two or three minutes left,
Speaker 3: because it was like eleven minutes left in the game.
Speaker 1: When Omari hit their last non Oways shot, right.
Speaker 3: So I didn't notice it until late and then it
Speaker 3: was I mean, he just looked like a different player than.
Speaker 1: What we've saying. I listened to Tom and Jack first half,
Speaker 1: TV the second half, and TV I don't remember who
Speaker 1: was doing a game mentioned that he was going nuts
Speaker 1: and having a great game, but did not. I don't
Speaker 1: know if if either if they did, I missed it,
Speaker 1: which is entirely possible, but they didn't make that big
Speaker 1: a deal out of the fact that no one has scored.
Speaker 1: But way, well, what was crazy?
Speaker 2: And Pope said it in the press conference like the
Speaker 2: first thirty minutes of the game was one of always
Speaker 2: worse than the Yes, he was a He had twenty
Speaker 2: one of his twenty eight in the second half, and
Speaker 2: I had a factor in the first, right, and I
Speaker 2: think you know he did. I don't know how well
Speaker 2: of a TV did picking up the hostility towards Otega
Speaker 2: away from the Oklahoma fans. Okay, well, every time he
Speaker 2: touched the ball. It was kind of similar to DJ
Speaker 2: Wagner when he was here. Yeah, every time you could
Speaker 2: hear it, okay every time, only when always touched the ball,
Speaker 2: huge booze and trade or trade or whatever.
Speaker 1: Dumb.
Speaker 2: But he was feeding off it. He like after he shoot,
Speaker 2: he'd put his hand to his ear. He was loving it.
Speaker 2: And it just kept building and building to this crescendo,
Speaker 2: to the point where the fans stopped yelling at him
Speaker 2: because they were like, okay, it's not working. And put
Speaker 2: it to Kentucky fans. By the way, it was like
Speaker 2: forty percent Kentucky fans. Was unbelievable, unreal. I couldn't when
Speaker 2: they opened they opened the gates an hour before and
Speaker 2: at first it was only blue coming in and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, like this is gonna be
Speaker 2: a blue out, and Oklahoma fans filled it. It ended
Speaker 2: up being sixty to forty in favor of the home team.
Speaker 2: But yeah, still, but yeah, those Oklahoma, especially the students,
Speaker 2: they were very hard on him, and he was feeding
Speaker 2: off it and loving it. And just at that point,
Speaker 2: you know, you lose. Jackson LaMotte fouls out with four
Speaker 2: minutes and isn't giving you much offensively. Jalen Moore is
Speaker 2: a really good center that Oklahoma has. He was doing
Speaker 2: a nice job containing Garrison and Mari in the second
Speaker 2: half offensively, and it was just okay, take go to
Speaker 2: work and you couldn't miss. He was just unreal getting
Speaker 2: to the rim. He hit a rainbow three?
Speaker 1: Did it all well?
Speaker 3: Brandon Garrison's lucky they didn't call it technical solar him
Speaker 3: going up into that game.
Speaker 1: Zero two big what ifs since we last met. One.
Speaker 3: What if that Auburn Kentucky game was close and ABC
Speaker 3: went out?
Speaker 1: Did you imagine that? And then what if they would
Speaker 1: have stormed the castle?
Speaker 3: They probably would have, and Jeff the coorra would have
Speaker 3: had to answer some angry calls. And then the other
Speaker 3: what if is what if they would have called a
Speaker 3: technical on Garrison. The uproar of Oklahoma getting free throws
Speaker 3: there would be unreal.
Speaker 1: I was staring at my TV at the backs of
Speaker 1: the of the officials, and I'm thinking to myself, what
Speaker 1: if what if turns around and does that in the arena?
Speaker 1: I just thought they were seeing if there was time left.
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that's what TV said. They they
Speaker 1: allowed us might be a technical foul thing, but then
Speaker 1: they were like, you know, it could be a bad
Speaker 1: after there's any time on the closs That's what I figured.
Speaker 1: There was just like a point three seconds off in
Speaker 1: the clock. That deal.
Speaker 2: Nope, technically got lucky that he saved the jawing for
Speaker 2: the whistle.
Speaker 1: Which begs the question when is the game over? I
Speaker 1: guess when they hit triple zeros because if you go back,
Speaker 1: but did Garrison it start? I when when did the
Speaker 1: alleged incident that might have brought a team? When did
Speaker 1: that happen?
Speaker 2: So from there was a local you know TV guy
Speaker 2: that had a video like from the court level literally
Speaker 2: you can see as the clock hits triple zeros and
Speaker 2: the horn goes off. As soon as that horn goes off,
Speaker 2: he's in Jamiah fears. Yes, that's what they must have
Speaker 2: come to the conclusion that it happened after the game.
Speaker 1: I guess. So they were looking to see was there
Speaker 1: time on the clock this Oh, if there was point
Speaker 1: one second left, right, that's a technical and Kentucky loses
Speaker 1: the basketball. But but TV was like, could Oklahoma get
Speaker 1: the ball back? Not so much for a technical foul,
Speaker 1: but could they have time to put up one more
Speaker 1: shot or something. Well, you can't got the rebound though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they were or you know, like the Garrison foul,
Speaker 1: right yeah, but yeah, but now, but you're right if
Speaker 1: if he said something, if he says something a point, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a good question. I mean.
Speaker 2: And if they lose that game, I mean, that's a
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, it's squad one, but they're in the fifties, Like,
Speaker 2: that's not that's a seed drop loss right there.
Speaker 3: And you know, Rick Patino has made a lot of
Speaker 3: headlines this year. One of them was, you know, freshman,
Speaker 3: I'm not recruiting freshmen anymore. How can I replace my
Speaker 3: transfer players with that? Tonight he said that's not his philosophy,
Speaker 3: But he.
Speaker 1: Also said I don't believe that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other headline that I thought, uh was and now
Speaker 3: it's it's fading for me that Rick Patino has said
Speaker 3: is uh, I can't even remember what I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'll come back to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because on
Speaker 1: the show tonight there was at least two callers who
Speaker 1: basically implied and suggested that they would like to see
Speaker 1: Pope essentially coach more like Rick Bettino. They've been doing
Speaker 1: that in both philosophy and manner and intense. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because, yeah, we're all peeking behind the
Speaker 1: curtain right because of that series, and it's fascinating, it's
Speaker 1: not surprising, but man, you got to be yourself. I'm
Speaker 1: going to coach like Rick Beatino.
Speaker 2: Guys hate phony coaches. Yeah, that's what they don't like.
Speaker 2: They want you to be yourself and they'll love you
Speaker 2: either way if they're If you're yourself though, even if
Speaker 2: you're losing. The players usually love the coaches, like Mark Soups.
Speaker 2: Players I've ever talked to, like in an off setting,
Speaker 2: love the guy. I agree same thing with Cal. They
Speaker 2: loved him because he is who he is. Maybe the
Speaker 2: fans were done with the guy who he is, but
Speaker 2: he is who he is and that's why they play
Speaker 2: so hard for him.
Speaker 1: Well and his players love Mark Pope, But if you've
Speaker 1: watched the Saint John's series, you can tell from all
Speaker 1: the current players. And they've interviewed a bunch of former
Speaker 1: Louisville players, including Russ Smith, who said, I don't know
Speaker 1: where I'd be today with that coach b because you
Speaker 1: know his tough love he makes them better player. And
Speaker 1: I can tell you because he's on my show every week.
Speaker 1: Sean Woods, who hated, as he told me when right
Speaker 1: after he was done playing the way Patino treated him,
Speaker 1: now swears by him absolutely. And Sean to a point,
Speaker 1: coached the way Ray We've seen it. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: went over a little got into some trouble. I got
Speaker 1: in a old trouble. Although what ultimately cost him a
Speaker 1: job at more Ed State was not a Patino kind
Speaker 1: of thing. It was an unfair kind of thing. But
Speaker 1: you know a lot of guys believe than that. But
Speaker 1: you you've got to be yourself. You can't just fake
Speaker 1: who you are. And Pope is never gonna be. Pope
Speaker 1: said he tried it early in his career. He tried to,
Speaker 1: you know, be that, you know, grind it out kind
Speaker 1: of in your face kind of coach, because he played
Speaker 1: for a guy like that in college. But remember, every
Speaker 1: time Pope has talked about his influences, he's brought up
Speaker 1: not just Patino, but the half a dozen NBA guys
Speaker 1: he played for, and one of the guys he swears
Speaker 1: by is Larry Larry Bird, and Larry Bird does not
Speaker 1: coach like that or did not coach like that. No,
Speaker 1: George Carlton, though he sure did.
Speaker 3: I remembered my point. The other headline Patino was saying
Speaker 3: was he didn't have his players do handshake lines.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 3: I missed that, and that was something that probably shouldn't
Speaker 3: have been done in that Oklahoma Kentucky game either with
Speaker 3: emotions flaring up. But I always thought that was something that,
Speaker 3: you know, the guys should put aside and shake hands
Speaker 3: for sportsmanship. But I'm kind of leaning more towards Patino nowadays.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I think part of that one, though, was as Garrison
Speaker 2: wanted to kill everyone, always trying to get hugs from
Speaker 2: the managers, like I missed the guys, love you guys.
Speaker 1: That could be the kind of thing where coaches agree,
Speaker 1: let's see how the game plays out, and if it
Speaker 1: if it's better that they don't have the coaches wave
Speaker 1: at each other thanks see you, you know, and you
Speaker 1: go this way and I'll go that way. But I
Speaker 1: do believe when I watch, I mean, we all played
Speaker 1: little league baseball. When I watch little league teams do
Speaker 1: it without beating each other up. I'm like, why can't
Speaker 1: the grown ups do it? I know they don't do
Speaker 1: in the pros, although actually, you know where they it's
Speaker 1: not a formal thing. What do you see after an
Speaker 1: NFL game when those guys were killing each other a
Speaker 1: minute before, and they're all out there hugging. And you
Speaker 1: know who hates hockey series? You know, Well, hockey that's
Speaker 1: a different animal. But after the series is over, it's
Speaker 1: long after every game you're drinking this. Well, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about play, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but you know
Speaker 1: who hates the postgame hugging in college football, mister Jeff Picoor.
Speaker 1: I believe it because when came up and when he
Speaker 1: was playing collegeball, you know, they hated their are points
Speaker 1: that I can't believe these guys are out there shaking
Speaker 1: hands and hugging. I hated those guys, you know. But
Speaker 1: that's just a difference.
Speaker 2: It's also the portal time too, right, where these guys
Speaker 2: aren't necessarily attached to a school.
Speaker 1: Some are former teammates. A lot of them are former teammates,
Speaker 1: that's right. Some of these guys played together in a Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just.
Speaker 2: A different animal now, but yeah, I mean Look, there
Speaker 2: was what game was early this season Georgia State where
Speaker 2: you had that kid who was related to the duke player. Yeah,
Speaker 2: remember he forget his name, Chaz something. Remember Georgia State kid.
Speaker 3: Are you talking about when the coach and the sun
Speaker 3: were at the same time.
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about this basketball season Kentucky, Georgia State
Speaker 2: where you had that really dirty flagrant foul by a
Speaker 2: Georgia State player and he's the nephew of a duke player.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's coming to me now, you know, I do
Speaker 1: remember that.
Speaker 2: But my point, My point was they got through the
Speaker 2: handshake line without any incident, and that guy intention lea
Speaker 2: took Amari Williams out.
Speaker 1: And I vaguely remember that guy being a grown up.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna step out. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we will shift our attention to football because since we
Speaker 1: last convene, Mark Stoops talked to the media and, uh,
Speaker 1: what do you got.
Speaker 2: Clash Peters? You remember that incident? Yes, yeah, Clash Peters.
Speaker 2: And now let me get you. I'll get you that uncle.
Speaker 1: You get it. After the break, I'll get you his uncles.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll come back for the thrilling conclusion of
Speaker 1: that anecdote, Cherokee Parks. I'll save it now, Cherokee Park.
Speaker 1: There you go, the Christian later. Want to be back
Speaker 1: in a minute on the State. Whye, Bbi, all right,
Speaker 1: we're going to slide from basketball over to football because
Speaker 1: Mark Stoops had an interesting session with the media and Billy,
Speaker 1: I know you've talked about it on your show here locally,
Speaker 1: and you've seen a lot of the clips and you
Speaker 1: read about it, and Aaron was there. I was there
Speaker 1: right away. I was impressed with his energy, it seems,
Speaker 1: and all it did was underscore and I felt bad
Speaker 1: for him how beaten down he was by the end
Speaker 1: of last year. I mean, he was a whip puppy.
Speaker 2: It was every fan that questioned if he really wanted
Speaker 2: to come back, how to write given how he acted
Speaker 2: at the end last year.
Speaker 1: And yet conversely this time.
Speaker 2: He seemed like the old Youngstown chippy chip on his shoulder,
Speaker 2: not gonna get punked again.
Speaker 1: Guy. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a little refreshing, but and he you know,
Speaker 2: he still stayed careful. He didn't want to get into
Speaker 2: like individually, who's standing out stuff like that, But you know,
Speaker 2: he talked. He there was no sugarcoating how bad last
Speaker 2: year was, how they needed to change with not only
Speaker 2: players and bringing in all this new personnel but leadership
Speaker 2: and getting that back under control, getting back to that
Speaker 2: blue collar identity. So I was encouraged to see that
Speaker 2: energy for sure.
Speaker 1: And if you if you read the transcript and watch
Speaker 1: the video it's online, it's fairly evident that he was
Speaker 1: not happy in hindsight, and I'm sure why it was
Speaker 1: happening with the tone and tenor in that locker room, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, among those players. But one of the other
Speaker 1: things I really appreciated was the fact that, by my count,
Speaker 1: at least six times he took the blame, you know,
Speaker 1: because people loved him, always pointing the fingers, throwing the
Speaker 1: coaches under the throwing the players under the But how
Speaker 1: many times did he say that's on me? That goes
Speaker 1: back to the Youngstown. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, one thing I caught and it was a
Speaker 2: question I asked one like John Hale asked two where
Speaker 2: it asked about like, for example, I asked about the
Speaker 2: short yard issues they had last Yes, and you could
Speaker 2: see he was just looking through me. He was like
Speaker 2: really pissed off. But he's like that's a fair criticism,
Speaker 2: and he said that a couple different times, but you
Speaker 2: can also see in his eyes he just memory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was good to say. It was good
Speaker 1: to see I covered Kentucky football for an all time.
Speaker 1: I have never seen a team so bad, so bad
Speaker 1: inside the five yard unbelievable Kentucky team.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I was you know, they added a
Speaker 2: sixty running BA who specializes in that.
Speaker 1: But it was good.
Speaker 2: It was the old Mark Stoops that you saw, the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, twenty eighteen, the really good years.
Speaker 3: A couple other things I heard him say. Talked about
Speaker 3: the depth. Maybe in the past they'd spent all their
Speaker 3: money on one guy in one position and now they're
Speaker 3: spreading the love a little bit there so that that
Speaker 3: would help when injuries come.
Speaker 1: And then the age of this team.
Speaker 3: He's like, I've got guys that are married there, you know,
Speaker 3: I've got guys going for their master's degree, you have,
Speaker 3: you know, these are grown twenty five, twenty six year
Speaker 3: old men a lot of times, and that's that's just
Speaker 3: different from when Mark Mark Stoops started his coaching career.
Speaker 1: So you know, but like I told you, guys, a
Speaker 1: week or two ago, and he's clearly come to grips
Speaker 1: with it. But I don't think he'll ever unless they
Speaker 1: looks there are radical changes to nil and portal rules.
Speaker 1: He'll never be able to manage a program the way
Speaker 1: he wants to or wanted to the way he did
Speaker 1: when he got here, and that is evaluate high school
Speaker 1: kids out, recruit, out work, people signed them and developed them.
Speaker 1: Now you know the majority of your guys at least
Speaker 1: now are portal guys. What do they have eleven high
Speaker 1: school kids something like that?
Speaker 2: Well, they signed twenty one, twenty one high school. They
Speaker 2: signed twenty one high school.
Speaker 1: So I got it flipped. Yeah, so they still can
Speaker 1: tell Mark Pube's Mark Pope will do that a million times?
Speaker 1: Did it? No?
Speaker 2: Stoops is gonna still try to find that happy medium.
Speaker 2: But luck you signed. I think it was nineteen players
Speaker 2: out of the portal and there's more to come after
Speaker 2: spring ball.
Speaker 1: I thought there were thirty one new players. Yes that,
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, just for spring and rollies.
Speaker 2: There are ten more freshmen coming and okay, I see, yeah,
Speaker 2: ten more freshmen are coming in June. For now, it's
Speaker 2: eleven on.
Speaker 1: I like the answer he gave me at the very
Speaker 1: end or one of the because I waited. Mine was
Speaker 1: kind of a big picture question, so I wanted to
Speaker 1: wait on you guys, and we knew we had him
Speaker 1: for X amount of minutes. But Aaron and and several
Speaker 1: of the other reporters had more specific questions about positions
Speaker 1: and stuff. But my question basically was are you still
Speaker 1: enjoying this? You know, are you still enjoying your job
Speaker 1: as a professional college head football coach? And that's when
Speaker 1: he said, and that's it's a quote that made the rounds.
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it as much as I ever have. And
Speaker 1: that sounds like something you say when you're trying to
Speaker 1: be brave. And if I just read it, I'd think,
Speaker 1: based on my issue or my image, I'll be thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, what are you selling? But his body language
Speaker 1: and his and his energy level tell told me that,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, he's ready, he's ready to go.
Speaker 3: Well, that's good and reassuring to hear it, because I
Speaker 3: would think inversely, I would think, because how much the
Speaker 3: game has changed, that Kentucky would be Mark Soups's last job.
Speaker 1: You know, if if he's got.
Speaker 3: That energy, maybe he would have the energy to restart
Speaker 3: somewhere else. We know he flirted with A and M
Speaker 3: just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's this is there's a little bit of this. I've
Speaker 3: got to see it before I believe it.
Speaker 1: Again. That unfair to see it in stoops or see
Speaker 1: the team, how the team.
Speaker 3: Functions, seem to have the team have success, no question,
Speaker 3: before I can buy back into the energy.
Speaker 1: Look at their schedule. They have a lot of proving
Speaker 1: it to do. Yeah, but that's where we are. And
Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. Coming off a four and
Speaker 1: eighth season, absolutely, but the two seasons prior seven wins
Speaker 1: in a ball game. But you know, whoever said it
Speaker 1: first was right. He's raised the ceiling. But he's raised
Speaker 1: the floor. And again, you guys get tired of hearing
Speaker 1: me say it. But how many times through the years,
Speaker 1: if Kentucky could just win six or seven, I'd be happy.
Speaker 1: Know you wouldn't because as soon as they did. When
Speaker 1: Mummy did that, Mommy went to back to back ball
Speaker 1: games and people complain Mommy goes catching them. They all
Speaker 1: go to the out back ball. Everybody had a great
Speaker 1: time in Tampa. It's a good game at Penn State.
Speaker 1: They lose, but so what the next year they lose
Speaker 1: their entire O line, everybody. They lose Tim Copps, they
Speaker 1: lose Craig Yeast, they lose keyos Tamp, they lose everybody
Speaker 1: off that offense. Dust my man, Dusty Bonner is the
Speaker 1: starting QB. And somehow they won six games and went
Speaker 1: to the Music City Bowl. And people grumbled because you know,
Speaker 1: fans get spoiled. When aren't we going to a bigger
Speaker 1: Bowl game? You know, you're lucky. You're in Nashville partying
Speaker 1: right now. Has But that's just the way sports are
Speaker 1: when you raise the floor. Yep.
Speaker 3: But you know, since then, a lot has changed. Kentucky's
Speaker 3: got a lot more resources.
Speaker 1: But so does everybody else. It's the problem.
Speaker 3: We've also got Texas and Oklahoma in the league. Now, no,
Speaker 3: it's Oklahoma a power move too. Jim Naggy head of
Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl becoming their GM. How about that they're
Speaker 3: going to be they'll get it going again. Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: that's that's Kentucky missed an opportunity when Brooks was leaving.
Speaker 3: Joker was here early, Mark Stoops. The rest of the
Speaker 3: league was not the rest, but some of the league
Speaker 3: was backing up. Florida, backed up Tennessee, backed up Georgia.
Speaker 3: Georgia for a while, Yeah, backed up, and Kentucky didn't
Speaker 3: take advantage.
Speaker 1: And it's not that Kentucky was backing up. Kentucky was
Speaker 1: capable of winning those games, but just didn't get it done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you were in school, Yeah, well they
Speaker 2: started to you know, they passed Florida for a while.
Speaker 2: Sure they didn't pass they passed Tennessee and the standings
Speaker 2: she just not head to head. But yeah, they passed Florida.
Speaker 2: They got the South Carolina missoo. They owned those teams.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even in Vandy too. Like those were from
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen to twenty one. They were eleven and one
Speaker 2: combined against Vanda swing games. They were just win they
Speaker 2: were wins. So and now you go look at that
Speaker 2: schedule they've got to play in twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna probably beat Tennessee Tech, and uh,
Speaker 2: there's another one in there that's a couple something like
Speaker 2: that Eastern Mission.
Speaker 1: But you know, like Toledo just beat a SEC school
Speaker 1: last year. That's true.
Speaker 2: Louisville's getting a lot better, and we all know the
Speaker 2: eight teams on the SEC schedules.
Speaker 1: Here's your third what if of the show? What if
Speaker 1: Will Levis doesn't get hurt on the road at all? Miss?
Speaker 1: I mean, could be in a very different spot today
Speaker 1: with how we look at Mark Stewarts just talking to
Speaker 1: somebody about that over the weekend, that our closed Kentucky
Speaker 1: game last year to doing what it wanted to do,
Speaker 1: what it meant to do, because people don't realize what
Speaker 1: the effect that that had on the Will Will Levis's
Speaker 1: second year, no doubt, no question, And that was a
Speaker 1: game they should have won as well, even.
Speaker 2: With them hurt the you know, ilegal illegal yeah, legal
Speaker 2: legal motion.
Speaker 1: Yeah uh. There have been too many moments and you
Speaker 1: guys are fortunate that you haven't been around here. You've
Speaker 1: been around here for a while, but not as long
Speaker 1: that these old school Kentucky things have been happening. And
Speaker 1: that's one of them. You know when when stuff like
Speaker 1: what what's next? What can happen next? And then something
Speaker 1: happens that that's been missing for quite a while. That yeah,
Speaker 1: well you still should have hit Christian in that end zone.
Speaker 1: I had to do it over again. Forearm shiver, baby,
Speaker 1: that's right, I was gonna do it. Thanks for joining us,
Speaker 1: Rayaron and Billy Dick Gabriel that said, good night from
Speaker 1: Lexington