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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, I'm that.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen with something for you, you.

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<v Speaker 1>You and you to think about. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about workplace conflicts.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me say it again, because it's happening everywhere, everywhere, everywhere,

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<v Speaker 3>conflict in the workplace.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest issue is the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about it. I've talked about a little bit on.

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<v Speaker 2>My podcast, where we've all heard don't take your work home,

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<v Speaker 2>don't do it, don't take your work home. But we

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<v Speaker 2>never hear about.

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<v Speaker 1>Not taking your issues to work. We never hear that because.

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<v Speaker 2>People can get away from everyone and everything, but never self.

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<v Speaker 2>So wherever people go, so does their drama. So does

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<v Speaker 2>their drama. And that is the issue. That's the biggest issue,

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<v Speaker 2>because so many people in the workplace are unhealed, unhealed individuals,

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<v Speaker 2>so many from the top down. I cannot even begin

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you the things I've experienced. Oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>the things I witnessed in the workplace just awful. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember a psychiatrist killed himself. I had a coworker who

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<v Speaker 2>killed his wife. I've had to deal with countless suicides

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<v Speaker 2>and suicide attempts, homicide, sexual assaults, sexual harassment, discrimination on

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<v Speaker 2>all levels, stealing, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Just.

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<v Speaker 2>Countless, countless amount of things. Because the workplace is full

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<v Speaker 2>of hearts and minds. That's the bottom line. That is

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<v Speaker 2>where it stems from. And you know what, it starts

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<v Speaker 2>from the top. If you have a person in charge,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about the whole agency, organization, unit, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if you military, civilian, or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have the person, the top dog that's in charge,

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<v Speaker 2>who is unhinged, who is.

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<v Speaker 1>A person of unhealed hearts.

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<v Speaker 2>In my heart and mind that if you have that

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<v Speaker 2>person in charge, I promise you on everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Is trickling down. It's trickling down.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been to a workplace where everything is peace

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<v Speaker 2>and harmony. I'm sure some exist somewhere, but I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been a part of one.

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<v Speaker 1>Never, ever, ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Have I been to a workplace where there's peace and

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<v Speaker 2>harmony throughout. I'm sure there are some, but they are rare.

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<v Speaker 2>They're rare, absolutely rare. People lead according to who they are.

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<v Speaker 2>Employees contribute according to who they are. You know, when

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<v Speaker 2>they were talking about remote and telework and people having

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<v Speaker 2>to come back into the office and things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and people were saying, oh, those people don't they don't

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<v Speaker 2>work from home.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, that's a lie. That's a lie. That's people talking

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<v Speaker 1>that don't know what they're talking about. Now, granted, yes

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<v Speaker 1>you do have people who were slacking.

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<v Speaker 2>At home, but they were also in individuals who slacked

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<v Speaker 2>at work when they were working in the office.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just who they are. So who do that fall on?

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<v Speaker 2>There shouldn't be mass punishment that falls on the supervisors.

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<v Speaker 2>That falls on the leaders who allow slackers to slack

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<v Speaker 2>at home, just like those are the same leaders who

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<v Speaker 2>allow people to slack in the office. I know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it. I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>For years and years and years.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been the one who hear all the complaints, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in positions where I see firsthand what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, workplaces are filled to the brim with

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<v Speaker 2>people who are That's why bosses, you know, they they

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<v Speaker 2>themselves discriminate, They stereotype, they show prejudices, they lie, they still,

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<v Speaker 2>they cheat, they commit sexual assaults and sexual harassment.

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<v Speaker 1>Though bosses, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaders, I mean, the top dogs, and then those underneath them,

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<v Speaker 2>the leaders and the supervisors, they do.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the dirt, all of the dirt because they

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<v Speaker 1>are of unheal hearts. And minds. And then you have

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<v Speaker 1>the employees.

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<v Speaker 2>Every turn, Oh, this person dies that, this person did that,

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<v Speaker 2>this person did this, this person, I mean, just complain

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<v Speaker 2>about everything and everyone because they're so broken you can't

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<v Speaker 2>even look at them, or they want to say you've

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<v Speaker 2>done something to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so sensitive.

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<v Speaker 2>Heaven forbid, don't say call a group of women ladies,

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<v Speaker 2>or a group of guy guy guys, men, hey guys,

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<v Speaker 2>a group of guys, hey guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>People are so sensitive and they so offended about the

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<v Speaker 2>slightest minute liddle thing because they are of unhealed hearts

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<v Speaker 2>and minds. So that's why you have all of the

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<v Speaker 2>conflict in workplaces. People don't know how to communicate. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to communicate. You have the leaders. Some

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<v Speaker 2>leaders hide away because.

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<v Speaker 1>They are so into themselves. They don't know they have poor.

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<v Speaker 2>Social skills, so they hide away as their agencies are

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<v Speaker 2>running a month. I'm telling you what I know. Yet

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<v Speaker 2>you have these people in high positions. You have these

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<v Speaker 2>people in high positions, their leaders, their supervisors, and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know how to lead. Some of them are

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<v Speaker 2>afraid of their employees. They are afraid to lead. As

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<v Speaker 2>supervisors they're afraid to lead. Many don't know how to lead.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know how to communicate. They don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to separate friendship from professionalism.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't know how not to be.

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<v Speaker 2>To be individuals who show nepotism and favoritism, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how not to be those people because they broken.

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<v Speaker 2>They are broken individuals. This may sound cruel, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to sound cruel.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you what I know for a fact. See

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<v Speaker 1>it every day. Some days I'm like I go in.

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<v Speaker 2>My office, I'm like, Lord, have mercy, Jesus, give me strength.

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<v Speaker 2>Because people complain about the most ridiculous things, just like babies,

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<v Speaker 2>about any and everything, because people don't realize how broken

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<v Speaker 2>they are.

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<v Speaker 1>You have those employees who let.

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<v Speaker 2>People just use and abuse them and they won't say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because they're broken.

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<v Speaker 2>You have employees who allow sexual assault and sexual harassment

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<v Speaker 2>and they won't say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they're broken.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't understand the person who's doing those things to

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<v Speaker 2>them are broken to Then you have those who allow

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<v Speaker 2>sexual rasping and things of that nature. They go along

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<v Speaker 2>with it because they're trying to get something out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Broken any boss, any leader who sexually assaults or sexually

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<v Speaker 2>ungrass their employee broken broken broken. Any boss or leader

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<v Speaker 2>who allow disrespect and discrimination, they are broken. And they

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<v Speaker 2>are ones who cause hostility in the workplace. It causes hostility.

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<v Speaker 2>When you show favoritism for whatever reason, it shows hostility.

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<v Speaker 2>It causes hostility when you hire people through depotism, because

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<v Speaker 2>everybody else sees it. They know when you bring someone

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<v Speaker 2>into the ages who is a family member, friend of

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<v Speaker 2>the family friend, it causes hostility. But people just don't

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<v Speaker 2>get it. Seriously, people just don't get it. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you when you hire based on nepotism and favoritism, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling you it shows because people don't know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>People go alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to have the job. People go along just to

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<v Speaker 2>make the money, but they don't know what they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>in those positions. It's horrible. I remember when they were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about DI they thought it meant black people.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>It was hilarious that people thought DEI meant black people.

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<v Speaker 2>That owns the ignorance, and many people got on board.

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<v Speaker 2>They got on the negativity train. Believe in it because

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<v Speaker 2>that is ignorance, and that is how weak minded unhealed

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<v Speaker 2>people do they.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go alone, They don't research for themselves. The I

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing to do with being black. Let me ask you.

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<v Speaker 2>This question, when have you ever known or what agency

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever known who hired people just because they

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<v Speaker 2>were black. I'm waiting what agency ever gave black people jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because they were black?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not talking about lower level jobs. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about senior level jobs just because they were black.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a one, not one.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of these agencies you go in, the high ranking

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<v Speaker 2>people predominantly are white, white males. You have a sprinkle

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<v Speaker 2>of blacks, just a sprinkle, not even a sprinkle here

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<v Speaker 2>and there, but it's predominantly white males. You have a

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<v Speaker 2>few white females and very little blacks. Some agencies have

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<v Speaker 2>no blacks at the top. None.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me that's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Individuals of unhealed hearts and minds to even have an

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<v Speaker 2>agency that don't have diversity. Unhealed hearts and minds. People

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to communicate in workplace.

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<v Speaker 1>At all. They think they can talk.

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<v Speaker 2>To you any kind of way because they're the boss,

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<v Speaker 2>or because they are a certain grade or rank.

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<v Speaker 1>They think they have privilege to talk to you any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of way. No, you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want respect, you must be respectful.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody is gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Respect the person who's disrespecting everyone. It doesn't work that way,

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<v Speaker 2>but some people seem to think so because they're broken.

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<v Speaker 2>And one thing that I hate in the workplace, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know I shouldn't use that word, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, is when a person.

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<v Speaker 2>A leader, have labeled a person, have stereotyped a person,

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<v Speaker 2>and then say, for instant, somebody new come in, a

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<v Speaker 2>new leader come in, and they do the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>to that person just because they were told something negative

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<v Speaker 2>about that person. Then everybody else fall in line and

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<v Speaker 2>treat that person bad because someone else said something negative

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<v Speaker 2>about the person, not even understanding that the person didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to do anything. It could have been the leader

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<v Speaker 2>who just didn't like that person because they don't like themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>But people don't look at it. They just go alone.

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<v Speaker 2>And don't understand, or they totally dismissed the effects that

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<v Speaker 2>they're having on the individual.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't even think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>They just throw the fiery darks because everybody else threw

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<v Speaker 2>the fiery darks.

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<v Speaker 1>I see that all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's awful, but that shows you how many of these

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<v Speaker 2>agencies have these leaders who are unhealed hearts and minds.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong, the employees do it too, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's in charge? Leaders? Leaders are in charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Some leaders can hold water on a rainy day.

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<v Speaker 1>They cannot hold water.

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<v Speaker 2>They tell everything except the dirt that they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna tell that. But if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>them with something, they're gonna tell it.

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<v Speaker 2>They gonna tell somebody, and somebody gonna tell somebody else,

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth. How can you trust a leader who's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna who's gonna have die reheal at the mouth, How

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<v Speaker 2>can you trust him or her?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't. You can't.

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<v Speaker 2>But people do this and and again, not just leaders,

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<v Speaker 2>employees do it too. But leaders are the ones who's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to set the standards for the workplace. They supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to lead by example. They don't supposed to follow the cloud.

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<v Speaker 2>They supposed to stand out, but most workplaces they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanna be respected.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to walk around like they you know, of

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<v Speaker 2>such great status. You know, they want to walk in it,

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<v Speaker 2>or they want to own it. Let me say it

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<v Speaker 2>like that. They want to own it, but they don't

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<v Speaker 2>walk in it.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them don't. I've talked to leaders and

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<v Speaker 2>You it baffles me that they are leading anyone because

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<v Speaker 1>They don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it's so much corruption and conflict. There's no cohesiveness,

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<v Speaker 2>low morale because the leaders themselves are broken people. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why there's conflict in the workplace. And then you have

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<v Speaker 2>the employees. A good leader when you see a bad employee,

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<v Speaker 2>a good leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Will do the right thing. They will talk to that employee.

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<v Speaker 2>But now leaders are afraid to talk to their employees.

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<v Speaker 1>They're afraid of or they're gonna find a complaint. Won't

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't do nothing wrong, you'll be fine. But

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<v Speaker 2>that should be ordered in these agencies. But a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of agencies there are not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when I tell you, people are treated horrible

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<v Speaker 1>in these agencies.

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<v Speaker 2>Within the federal government and the military. And I've been

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<v Speaker 2>a part of both. I'm not lying to you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not here trying to poke you know, the bear

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<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. I'm just telling you fact.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only way work.

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<v Speaker 2>Places are all over the world will become better is

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<v Speaker 2>when people become better. People have to want to change.

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<v Speaker 2>People have to want to be better, People have to

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<v Speaker 1>They have to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing wrong when you know you know, you know it's wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop doing the wrong things when you know it's wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's wrong as a leader to have a

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<v Speaker 2>sexual relationship with your employee. You know, as a leader

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong to sexual assault. You know it's wrong to

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<v Speaker 2>sexually harass. You know it's wrong to show favoritism. You

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<v Speaker 2>know it's wrong to high on nepotism. You know it's

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<v Speaker 2>wrong to have terrible hind practices, prohibited hind practices that

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's wrong when you tell people's business.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's wrong when you see a problem and

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<v Speaker 1>All I'm saying is, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know the workplace is full of broken people who are employees.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it. But the main character in this is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaders, because they're the ones who supposed to make the

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<v Speaker 1>Conflict and sexual harassment and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But how can they do that when they're so broken

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<v Speaker 2>and they allow things to happen on their watch under

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<v Speaker 2>leaders are the problem. Point blank, the leaders are the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>The leaders are the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that every agency should have a team of facilitators,

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<v Speaker 2>not mediators, which mediation is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I love mediation, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a avid believer in facilitation agencies.

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<v Speaker 1>Every agency should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Two at least two I mean two facilitators at least

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<v Speaker 2>two who can do facilitations within their agencies to eliminate

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<v Speaker 2>having to have media and having to have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of backed up EEO cases and EO cases. They need

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<v Speaker 2>facilitators every agency. So when there's a conflict, you bring

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<v Speaker 2>the people who are in conflict into the room and

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<v Speaker 2>help them work out their conflicts of communication, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>all of these communication communication.

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<v Speaker 1>People are broken, don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Broken people don't know how to effectively communicate. So bring

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<v Speaker 2>them in the room and let each person see who

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<v Speaker 1>Bring it to the table. I believe in that, but

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<v Speaker 1>agencies have it. So if you need a facilitator, contact me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll come, for sure, I will come and facilitate for you. Seriously, though,

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<v Speaker 2>people need facilitators in their agencies. It will help out

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. It will help out a lot when they

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<v Speaker 2>know that. And also you have to set it up

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<v Speaker 2>where people can't abuse the system, because some people will

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<v Speaker 2>abuse it. Every time you look around, they think it's

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<v Speaker 2>I fought the leaders most of all. Most of all,

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<v Speaker 2>yes I do. I fought the leaders most of all.

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<v Speaker 2>But second to that, I fought the employees because people

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<v Speaker 2>bringing all.

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<v Speaker 1>Their issues to work.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember this one particular person used to come to

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<v Speaker 2>work every day. It was something about her child, her husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody wants to hear your problems, no one, but every

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<v Speaker 2>day we had to listen to her issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Brokenness. That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the real problem in workplaces all around the world. Brokenness,

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<v Speaker 2>unhealed hearts and minds bringing all of their myths.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the workplace, projecting it. That's it. That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving it right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Much much love to each and every one of you,

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<v Speaker 2>Please share, thank you for listening in every episode the

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<v Speaker 2>same and I hope I really

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<v Speaker 1>Really do that you do it, think on it,