Speaker 1: I'm a hurricane came across Florida and ended up in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: New Richmond, Ohio. But this one's going to go out
Speaker 1: to the east and away we go. But there's crases
Speaker 1: in Florida, including Tony Benders, a winter retreat the Wolf's
Speaker 1: Layer somewhere near a mobile home park in Fort Myers, Florida.
Speaker 1: So we're going to see what happens with that. Also
Speaker 1: later on, as Congressman Greg Landsman, I'm sure a good
Speaker 1: friend of Adam Birds, state Representative from New Richmond and
Speaker 1: Adam Birds Date Rep. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show,
Speaker 1: and first of all, Adam. Yesterday I had on Frank L.
Speaker 1: Rosa and he talked about the thirteen thousand, seven hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty seven words thirteen thousand words of proposition one.
Speaker 1: He then talked about the capsuling of that to about
Speaker 1: seven to eight hundred words. I'd point out to you,
Speaker 1: as a great American, that the US Constitution itself plus
Speaker 1: all the amendments are seventy five hundred words, So this
Speaker 1: thing is twice the size of the US Constitution plus
Speaker 1: all the amendments. Can you tell the American people, Adam
Speaker 1: Birds Date Rep. From New Richmond, the home of the
Speaker 1: French Street Cafe. What essentially is state Issue one? Tomorrow
Speaker 1: We're going to have on Rob Sanders to talk about
Speaker 1: a Kentucky difficulty. But what is the issue? If those
Speaker 1: are confused, what is State issue one? Proposition one? Tell
Speaker 1: the American people.
Speaker 2: Appreciate the opportunity to be on your show, Bill, and
Speaker 2: this is a really important change that Democrats are trying
Speaker 2: to make. And before I talk about what changes it makes, Bill,
Speaker 2: I think it's really important for your listeners to know
Speaker 2: who is paying for this, who wants this to happen.
Speaker 2: This is people from out of the state, the American
Speaker 2: Civil Liberties Union, the sixteen thirty Fund, George Soros, Hans,
Speaker 2: George Veet. These are the kinds of people who want
Speaker 2: to come and do Ohio or reach into Ohio and
Speaker 2: make these changes. And opposing this would be Donald Trump
Speaker 2: and Mike Dwaine. These guys don't agree on hardly anything,
Speaker 2: but they agree on opposing Issue one. And so.
Speaker 1: That's a great point because Mike Dewan, who I like
Speaker 1: personally quite a bit, his wife friand paid off the
Speaker 1: cherry pipe that he lost for her. He's a good man,
Speaker 1: and when it comes to Haiti, or when it comes
Speaker 1: to a Springfield, Ohio, or it comes to many issues,
Speaker 1: He's on one side of the fence and the Trumpster
Speaker 1: Donald is on the other. But this issue brought and
Speaker 1: vote together against it, which tells American people.
Speaker 3: How to vote. So explain what it was. Explained.
Speaker 1: Also yesterday, Frank Lerosa said that six million dollars is
Speaker 1: coming into Ohio from Switzerland in order to change voting
Speaker 1: in Ohio but not voting in New York, New Jersey
Speaker 1: or California. Explain the essence of what proposition one does.
Speaker 2: Sure, So, what it does is that in twenty and
Speaker 2: fifteen and in twenty and eighteen, Ohio has overwhelmingly approved
Speaker 2: safeguards to the constitution that would require that mass be
Speaker 2: drawn compact and that they keep communities of interest together,
Speaker 2: keeps you from breaking up townships, keep you from breaking
Speaker 2: up villages and cities. But this seeks to overturn all
Speaker 2: of that built. This would allow an unelected group of bureaucrats,
Speaker 2: a deep state, if you will, to make the slice
Speaker 2: and dice your community of interest up for the sole
Speaker 2: purpose of getting a certain proportionality. Okay, and so I
Speaker 2: think that this would bring about about They want a
Speaker 2: proportionality of fifty six Republican fifty percent, fifty six percent
Speaker 2: Republican representation and forty four percent Democrat representation. So think
Speaker 2: about this bill. If there are sixty seven House members
Speaker 2: in the Ohio House right now, and the goal of
Speaker 2: Issue one is to bring that from sixty seven down
Speaker 2: to fifty six, you're going to have to get rid
Speaker 2: of eleven Republicans. Now, where can you do that at Well,
Speaker 2: you can only do that from places where there are
Speaker 2: a lot of Democrats. Where are a lot of Democrats,
Speaker 2: They're in the urban counties bill like Cincinnati, Columbus, Dayton, Toledo,
Speaker 2: an Afron in Cleveland. And so what's going to happen is,
Speaker 2: right now Hamilton County has two state reps or the Republicans,
Speaker 2: Bill Stitz and Cindy Abrams. You're going to lose those seats.
Speaker 2: You're going to lose representation Republican representation in urban counties
Speaker 2: in order for this Redistricting Commission to meet this fifty
Speaker 2: six percent for personality goal that's going to happen. That
Speaker 2: will be the offshoot of Issue one.
Speaker 1: Who votes for these individuals is that Tony Bender told
Speaker 1: me that if passed, there will be three so called
Speaker 1: retired judges, one of whom likely is not to be
Speaker 1: my wife. Judges will get together then decide who's on
Speaker 1: the commission.
Speaker 3: Is that correct, yes, sir?
Speaker 1: And so these three then will pick people of similar
Speaker 1: ilk who want to serve at literally no benefit to
Speaker 1: them whatsoever. Tends to be academics and lawyers. Those who
Speaker 1: have free time will sit around and ruminate about what
Speaker 1: needs to be done. So a community like Cincinnati, which
Speaker 1: has Republican and Democratic reps, they're going to take parts
Speaker 1: of s Cincinnati, hooked them up with a Warren County,
Speaker 1: parts of Cincinnati, hook them up with Butler County, parts
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, hook them up with with with Claremont County,
Speaker 1: and then make sure that Democrats get elected or not Republicans,
Speaker 1: and the people will have no say. Do I have
Speaker 1: the capsule? What's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: You have it? Bill? And so remember that you talked
Speaker 2: about the four retired. They're they're going to pick five Republicans,
Speaker 2: five Democrats, and five so called independents. All right, now,
Speaker 2: remember that anybody who has ever run for any elected position,
Speaker 2: and their family and anybody who works for them cannot
Speaker 2: serve on this, anybody who's been appointed by the federal government. Okay,
Speaker 2: So this would keep people in the armed forces from serving.
Speaker 2: This would keep anybody who ever run for their their
Speaker 2: central committee, has ever run for mayor, has ever run
Speaker 2: for village council, has ever run for township trustee. None
Speaker 2: of these people and their family and their employees and
Speaker 2: anybody they've ever contracted with will be ineligible to serve.
Speaker 2: So you're going to have this group of people who
Speaker 2: have never served in any way in their life. It's
Speaker 2: going to be doing this and they cannot be sued,
Speaker 2: they cannot be communicated with, they cannot be advocated for
Speaker 2: a certain thing, and so they are going to be
Speaker 2: totally You can't remove them if they accept the bribe,
Speaker 2: if they've done anything illegal, they can't be touched. The
Speaker 2: results of this cannot be sued in front of the
Speaker 2: Ohio Supreme Court. Deale. So this is a perfect storm
Speaker 2: of bad news for good government in Ohio. And you
Speaker 2: notice that all of the Republicans are for it, all
Speaker 2: the Democrats, I'm sorry, all the Republicans are against it.
Speaker 2: All the Democrats are for it.
Speaker 1: It's called jerry mandering. If you go into the public
Speaker 1: and say is jerry mandering good or bad? I would
Speaker 1: think seventy five percent of people would say, well, jared
Speaker 1: mandering is bad. We don't want jerry mandering, which is
Speaker 1: concocting districts to fit one political party over another. And
Speaker 1: so this is coined as saying it eliminates jerry mandering.
Speaker 1: What just the opposite is true. It encourages are amandering
Speaker 1: because what it does is say to these unelected bureaucrats,
Speaker 1: you choose the district, and you choose how it's fifty
Speaker 1: six forty four, and how you get theirs up to you.
Speaker 1: So we've already this is an important point. Representative Adam
Speaker 1: Bird of New Richmond. We've already voted on this thing twice.
Speaker 1: Explain that two times we voted in Ohio to already
Speaker 1: set the standards that this that this would upheaval and change.
Speaker 1: Explain what we've already done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, in twenty fifteen and in twenty and eighteen,
Speaker 2: we've already voted to protect and give stfeguards to this.
Speaker 2: All right. The commission that does this kind of work
Speaker 2: is comprised of two Republican House members I'm sorry, a
Speaker 2: House Republican and Democrat, a Senate Republican and Democrat. And
Speaker 2: three statewide officials, okay, the governor, the Secretary of State,
Speaker 2: and the Auditor of State. Now who picks those three positions?
Speaker 2: The people do, Okay. So if you take it out
Speaker 2: of the hands of elect people, and like I said,
Speaker 2: three of the members, the tie breaking members of this
Speaker 2: commission are elected by the people of Ohio, then you're
Speaker 2: going to have an unelected and unaccountable group of people
Speaker 2: that's going to be making this decision. Now, built in
Speaker 2: my way of thinking, that's called bureaucracy. That's a deep state,
Speaker 2: that's a fourth branch of government. And nobody should want
Speaker 2: another group of unelected bureaucrats making decisions because you can't
Speaker 2: touch them. We've got enough of those in the federal government,
Speaker 2: and so we don't want unelected deep state bureaucrats making
Speaker 2: decisions for us that we can't touch at the ballot box.
Speaker 1: So if liberal Democrats can't win elections, let's change the
Speaker 1: rules and take away the voice of the people. So
Speaker 1: right now, there's seven members of the Apportionment Board. There's
Speaker 1: a Democrat Republican from the House, Democrat Republican from the Senate.
Speaker 3: By the way, who votes for those? That is, the
Speaker 3: citizens of Ohio actually vote for those people.
Speaker 1: And then statewide offices, which is the author of the
Speaker 1: Secretary of State, and the who votes for them? Well,
Speaker 1: the people decide, we already have a system. And by
Speaker 1: the way, why won't the Swiss billionaires put this system
Speaker 1: in place in New Jersey, California, or New York.
Speaker 3: Why don't you do it there?
Speaker 2: Well, those are already Democrat states. They're sending a majority
Speaker 2: of Democrats to the US Congress, and they don't want
Speaker 2: a majority of the representation from Ohio being Republicans. They
Speaker 2: want to paint Ohio blue. And by definition, Bill, that's
Speaker 2: cherry mandering. When you seek to obtain a certain political
Speaker 2: outcome based on the mass that you draw, that's called
Speaker 2: jerry mandarin. And that's why when you look at the
Speaker 2: bouting language that you mentioned, Frank LeRose said there were
Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of words, and the very first point Bill,
Speaker 2: the very first point, when you read it, it uses
Speaker 2: the word jerry mander that this issue will require jerry mandarin.
Speaker 2: That's what it says. And so this is it is
Speaker 2: not fair to the Ohioan's Ohio voters. When Democrats say
Speaker 2: that this bill will stop jerry mandering, okay, it requires
Speaker 2: jerry mandering. And that's the definition of jerry mandering when
Speaker 2: you seek a certain political outcome from the.
Speaker 1: Mass that you draw well from unelected individuals. So the
Speaker 1: language and the ballot itself we vote on. I'm going
Speaker 1: to vote no, of course most normal Americans will. And
Speaker 1: the and the title of this act, it says this
Speaker 1: causes jerry mandering, and people are going to vote for that.
Speaker 2: That's that's exactly what it says. You have to jerry mander.
Speaker 2: I'm going to read it to you, bill. Here's what
Speaker 2: it says. It says the proposed amendment would repeal constitutional
Speaker 2: protections against jerry mandering that were approved by nearly three
Speaker 2: quarters of Ohio electors. That's what the when you when
Speaker 2: you pick your ballot up and you read it before voting,
Speaker 2: that's what it's going to say. The point number two
Speaker 2: says that it establishes a new you taxpayer funded commission
Speaker 2: of appointees required to jerry mander. How do you vote
Speaker 2: the ball language bille.
Speaker 3: How do you vote for? Even Tony Bender would vote
Speaker 3: against that you tell.
Speaker 1: I mean, how in the hell can you vote for
Speaker 1: that when the language of the ballot tells you exactly
Speaker 1: bend over and thank you sir? May I have another now? Secondly,
Speaker 1: we had the circus came into town. This is in
Speaker 1: exactly your district, but you're a small town kind of
Speaker 1: a guy. Springfield, Ohio. Bout three weeks ago, two weeks
Speaker 1: the biggest story in the country was Haitians barbecue and
Speaker 1: cats and dogs. Have you noticed the last few weeks
Speaker 1: there's no coverage at all of Springfield, Ohio anymore because
Speaker 1: the circus has moved on but left behind twenty thousand
Speaker 1: Haitians living in Clark County. And now even the Biden
Speaker 1: administration has said that when their temporary status ends in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, they have to go back home. So
Speaker 1: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are saying, we've used this
Speaker 1: issue to our benefit to paint Donald Trump in the
Speaker 1: most negative light. Possible. Man out, when this is over,
Speaker 1: you're going back to porter a Prince. How many do
Speaker 1: you think the Haitians? And either what whichever candidate wins,
Speaker 1: either Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. I would maintain that way,
Speaker 1: if Kamala Harris is elected, she's going to extend temporary
Speaker 1: protective status parolees to the Haitians in Clark County.
Speaker 3: But Trump is not.
Speaker 1: But as we sit here this afternoon on Tuesday afternoon,
Speaker 1: both candidates are saying the status ends in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Does anyone believe that twenty thousand Haitians, along with three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand others all over the country are going to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've been ordered out of the country. I'll go back
Speaker 1: to port A Prince. Is that ever going to happen?
Speaker 2: Not going to happen. Dylan, who in the right mind
Speaker 2: things that to Biden inherits administration? Even know who these
Speaker 2: people are? Where did they live? How would I find them?
Speaker 2: How would I collect them? How could I make sure
Speaker 2: that they are actually complying with the requirement to depart
Speaker 2: our country? They don't have any events. And you know
Speaker 2: it's not just in Springfield, Ohio. It's happening in small
Speaker 2: towns all across the Ohio that this federal government is
Speaker 2: putting these illegal immigrants into a country, waving a special
Speaker 2: magic wand over their head and declaring them to be legal.
Speaker 2: And it's a class of cultures and they're here's the
Speaker 2: other thing built think about this. We don't mind immigration.
Speaker 2: We want people from other countries that are smart, that
Speaker 2: are intelligent, that are educated, that are productive, that are
Speaker 2: going to do something good for our country. But when
Speaker 2: you bring them in mass here and they live together,
Speaker 2: there's no assimilate, assimilation built. They're not trying to become Americans.
Speaker 2: They don't want to learn our language, they don't want
Speaker 2: to learn a culture. And that's key to being an
Speaker 2: American is being willing to assimilate.
Speaker 1: Well, you get more money from the federal government under
Speaker 1: Biden of Harris if you're a Haitian than if you're
Speaker 1: a live in North Carolina or if you live in Georgia,
Speaker 1: and then we're going to penny pinch. But if you're
Speaker 1: a Haitian, billions of dollars come your way. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens there. And the key to status you want
Speaker 1: in Ohio is read the ballot language. The first capsule
Speaker 1: in the beginning, it says it takes away the constitutional
Speaker 1: protections that we voted on in twenty fifteen and twenty
Speaker 1: eighteen and requires this unelected board to Jerry Mander Adam Burnham.
Speaker 3: I exactly correct about that.
Speaker 2: You're reading it right from the text, Willie, and you
Speaker 2: know that it says everything we need to know, and
Speaker 2: so you've got to watch out. They're using Republican style
Speaker 2: messaging on this to try to convince Trump voters that
Speaker 2: somehow they should be voting yes winning the exact opposite
Speaker 2: of that, you should be voting no if you're if
Speaker 2: you're if you're voting for Trump. And in fact, Bill,
Speaker 2: when you drive around Hamilton County Claramont County, you see
Speaker 2: a lot of Donald Trump's signs and vote No signs
Speaker 2: in the same yard together, because Ohioans are starting to
Speaker 2: learn that Trump is asking Ohioans for a no vote
Speaker 2: because we don't want to allow your Soros and hands
Speaker 2: short speeds to change the way we draw maps in Ohio.
Speaker 2: All of the money is coming from there. And you know,
Speaker 2: here's another little known fact. Of all of the money
Speaker 2: that's been raised on behalf of Issue one, less than
Speaker 2: one percent of it has come from actual Ohio citizen individuals,
Speaker 2: less than one percent.
Speaker 1: If you can't win at the ballot box, change the rules.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what's happening. And I hope the American people,
Speaker 1: I think will become informed and vote no in Statusue one.
Speaker 1: Once again, Adam Bird, you're a great American. Thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Adam you're
Speaker 1: a great American.
Speaker 2: You are a great American too, Billy, I'm great. I'm
Speaker 2: thankful to be in the same conversation with you. Appreciate
Speaker 2: the opportunity to be on your show. And let's go
Speaker 2: vote for Bernie Marino too. I'm tired of Sharon Brown
Speaker 2: act in one way when he's in Ohio, acting like
Speaker 2: an all shot, kind of good nighborly moderate, and then
Speaker 2: when he goes to Washington, d C. He changes like
Speaker 2: a chameleon into a radical Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi kind
Speaker 2: of radical democrat.
Speaker 1: You know, Shared Brown started in politics with Richard Nixon,
Speaker 1: and it's time to retire Shared Brown.
Speaker 3: That's quite a feat, all right. Once again, Adam Bird,
Speaker 3: thank you very much, thank you. Let's get it, let's
Speaker 3: continue with them more.
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