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<v Speaker 1>I'm a hurricane came across Florida and ended up in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>New Richmond, Ohio. But this one's going to go out

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<v Speaker 1>to the east and away we go. But there's crases

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida, including Tony Benders, a winter retreat the Wolf's

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<v Speaker 1>Layer somewhere near a mobile home park in Fort Myers, Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to see what happens with that. Also

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<v Speaker 1>later on, as Congressman Greg Landsman, I'm sure a good

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<v Speaker 1>friend of Adam Birds, state Representative from New Richmond and

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Birds Date Rep. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and first of all, Adam. Yesterday I had on Frank L.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosa and he talked about the thirteen thousand, seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty seven words thirteen thousand words of proposition one.

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<v Speaker 1>He then talked about the capsuling of that to about

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<v Speaker 1>seven to eight hundred words. I'd point out to you,

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<v Speaker 1>as a great American, that the US Constitution itself plus

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<v Speaker 1>all the amendments are seventy five hundred words, So this

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<v Speaker 1>thing is twice the size of the US Constitution plus

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<v Speaker 1>all the amendments. Can you tell the American people, Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Birds Date Rep. From New Richmond, the home of the

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<v Speaker 1>French Street Cafe. What essentially is state Issue one? Tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to have on Rob Sanders to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a Kentucky difficulty. But what is the issue? If those

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<v Speaker 1>are confused, what is State issue one? Proposition one? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate the opportunity to be on your show, Bill, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is a really important change that Democrats are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make. And before I talk about what changes it makes, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really important for your listeners to know

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<v Speaker 2>who is paying for this, who wants this to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>This is people from out of the state, the American

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<v Speaker 2>Civil Liberties Union, the sixteen thirty Fund, George Soros, Hans,

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<v Speaker 2>George Veet. These are the kinds of people who want

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<v Speaker 2>to come and do Ohio or reach into Ohio and

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<v Speaker 2>make these changes. And opposing this would be Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike Dwaine. These guys don't agree on hardly anything,

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<v Speaker 2>but they agree on opposing Issue one. And so.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great point because Mike Dewan, who I like

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<v Speaker 1>personally quite a bit, his wife friand paid off the

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<v Speaker 1>cherry pipe that he lost for her. He's a good man,

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<v Speaker 1>and when it comes to Haiti, or when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to a Springfield, Ohio, or it comes to many issues,

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<v Speaker 1>He's on one side of the fence and the Trumpster

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<v Speaker 1>Donald is on the other. But this issue brought and

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<v Speaker 1>vote together against it, which tells American people.

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<v Speaker 3>How to vote. So explain what it was. Explained.

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<v Speaker 1>Also yesterday, Frank Lerosa said that six million dollars is

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<v Speaker 1>coming into Ohio from Switzerland in order to change voting

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio but not voting in New York, New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>or California. Explain the essence of what proposition one does.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, So, what it does is that in twenty and

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen and in twenty and eighteen, Ohio has overwhelmingly approved

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<v Speaker 2>safeguards to the constitution that would require that mass be

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<v Speaker 2>drawn compact and that they keep communities of interest together,

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<v Speaker 2>keeps you from breaking up townships, keep you from breaking

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<v Speaker 2>up villages and cities. But this seeks to overturn all

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<v Speaker 2>of that built. This would allow an unelected group of bureaucrats,

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<v Speaker 2>a deep state, if you will, to make the slice

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<v Speaker 2>and dice your community of interest up for the sole

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<v Speaker 2>purpose of getting a certain proportionality. Okay, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>think that this would bring about about They want a

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<v Speaker 2>proportionality of fifty six Republican fifty percent, fifty six percent

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<v Speaker 2>Republican representation and forty four percent Democrat representation. So think

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<v Speaker 2>about this bill. If there are sixty seven House members

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<v Speaker 2>in the Ohio House right now, and the goal of

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<v Speaker 2>Issue one is to bring that from sixty seven down

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty six, you're going to have to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of eleven Republicans. Now, where can you do that at Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you can only do that from places where there are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Democrats. Where are a lot of Democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>They're in the urban counties bill like Cincinnati, Columbus, Dayton, Toledo,

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<v Speaker 2>an Afron in Cleveland. And so what's going to happen is,

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<v Speaker 2>right now Hamilton County has two state reps or the Republicans,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Stitz and Cindy Abrams. You're going to lose those seats.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to lose representation Republican representation in urban counties

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<v Speaker 2>in order for this Redistricting Commission to meet this fifty

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<v Speaker 2>six percent for personality goal that's going to happen. That

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<v Speaker 2>will be the offshoot of Issue one.

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<v Speaker 1>Who votes for these individuals is that Tony Bender told

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<v Speaker 1>me that if passed, there will be three so called

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<v Speaker 1>retired judges, one of whom likely is not to be

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<v Speaker 1>my wife. Judges will get together then decide who's on

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<v Speaker 3>Is that correct, yes, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>And so these three then will pick people of similar

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<v Speaker 1>ilk who want to serve at literally no benefit to

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<v Speaker 1>them whatsoever. Tends to be academics and lawyers. Those who

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<v Speaker 1>have free time will sit around and ruminate about what

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be done. So a community like Cincinnati, which

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<v Speaker 1>has Republican and Democratic reps, they're going to take parts

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<v Speaker 1>of s Cincinnati, hooked them up with a Warren County,

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<v Speaker 1>parts of Cincinnati, hook them up with Butler County, parts

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati, hook them up with with with Claremont County,

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<v Speaker 1>and then make sure that Democrats get elected or not Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>and the people will have no say. Do I have

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<v Speaker 1>the capsule? What's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 2>You have it? Bill? And so remember that you talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the four retired. They're they're going to pick five Republicans,

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<v Speaker 2>five Democrats, and five so called independents. All right, now,

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<v Speaker 2>remember that anybody who has ever run for any elected position,

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<v Speaker 2>and their family and anybody who works for them cannot

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<v Speaker 2>serve on this, anybody who's been appointed by the federal government. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So this would keep people in the armed forces from serving.

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<v Speaker 2>This would keep anybody who ever run for their their

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<v Speaker 2>central committee, has ever run for mayor, has ever run

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<v Speaker 2>for village council, has ever run for township trustee. None

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<v Speaker 2>of these people and their family and their employees and

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<v Speaker 2>anybody they've ever contracted with will be ineligible to serve.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're going to have this group of people who

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<v Speaker 2>have never served in any way in their life. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be doing this and they cannot be sued,

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<v Speaker 2>they cannot be communicated with, they cannot be advocated for

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<v Speaker 2>a certain thing, and so they are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>totally You can't remove them if they accept the bribe,

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<v Speaker 2>if they've done anything illegal, they can't be touched. The

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<v Speaker 2>results of this cannot be sued in front of the

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio Supreme Court. Deale. So this is a perfect storm

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<v Speaker 2>of bad news for good government in Ohio. And you

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<v Speaker 2>notice that all of the Republicans are for it, all

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats, I'm sorry, all the Republicans are against it.

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<v Speaker 2>All the Democrats are for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called jerry mandering. If you go into the public

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<v Speaker 1>and say is jerry mandering good or bad? I would

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<v Speaker 1>think seventy five percent of people would say, well, jared

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<v Speaker 1>mandering is bad. We don't want jerry mandering, which is

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<v Speaker 1>concocting districts to fit one political party over another. And

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<v Speaker 1>so this is coined as saying it eliminates jerry mandering.

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<v Speaker 1>What just the opposite is true. It encourages are amandering

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<v Speaker 1>because what it does is say to these unelected bureaucrats,

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<v Speaker 1>you choose the district, and you choose how it's fifty

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<v Speaker 1>six forty four, and how you get theirs up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've already this is an important point. Representative Adam

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<v Speaker 1>Bird of New Richmond. We've already voted on this thing twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain that two times we voted in Ohio to already

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<v Speaker 1>set the standards that this that this would upheaval and change.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain what we've already done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, in twenty fifteen and in twenty and eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>we've already voted to protect and give stfeguards to this.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. The commission that does this kind of work

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<v Speaker 2>is comprised of two Republican House members I'm sorry, a

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<v Speaker 2>House Republican and Democrat, a Senate Republican and Democrat. And

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<v Speaker 2>three statewide officials, okay, the governor, the Secretary of State,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Auditor of State. Now who picks those three positions?

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<v Speaker 2>The people do, Okay. So if you take it out

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<v Speaker 2>of the hands of elect people, and like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>three of the members, the tie breaking members of this

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<v Speaker 2>commission are elected by the people of Ohio, then you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have an unelected and unaccountable group of people

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be making this decision. Now, built in

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<v Speaker 2>my way of thinking, that's called bureaucracy. That's a deep state,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a fourth branch of government. And nobody should want

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<v Speaker 2>another group of unelected bureaucrats making decisions because you can't

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<v Speaker 2>touch them. We've got enough of those in the federal government,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we don't want unelected deep state bureaucrats making

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<v Speaker 2>decisions for us that we can't touch at the ballot box.

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<v Speaker 1>So if liberal Democrats can't win elections, let's change the

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<v Speaker 1>rules and take away the voice of the people. So

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<v Speaker 1>right now, there's seven members of the Apportionment Board. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat Republican from the House, Democrat Republican from the Senate.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, who votes for those? That is, the

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<v Speaker 3>citizens of Ohio actually vote for those people.

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<v Speaker 1>And then statewide offices, which is the author of the

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of State, and the who votes for them? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the people decide, we already have a system. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, why won't the Swiss billionaires put this system

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<v Speaker 1>in place in New Jersey, California, or New York.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't you do it there?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, those are already Democrat states. They're sending a majority

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<v Speaker 2>of Democrats to the US Congress, and they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>a majority of the representation from Ohio being Republicans. They

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<v Speaker 2>want to paint Ohio blue. And by definition, Bill, that's

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<v Speaker 2>cherry mandering. When you seek to obtain a certain political

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<v Speaker 2>outcome based on the mass that you draw, that's called

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<v Speaker 2>jerry mandarin. And that's why when you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>bouting language that you mentioned, Frank LeRose said there were

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<v Speaker 2>thousands and thousands of words, and the very first point Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>the very first point, when you read it, it uses

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<v Speaker 2>the word jerry mander that this issue will require jerry mandarin.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it says. And so this is it is

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<v Speaker 2>not fair to the Ohioan's Ohio voters. When Democrats say

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<v Speaker 2>that this bill will stop jerry mandering, okay, it requires

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<v Speaker 2>jerry mandering. And that's the definition of jerry mandering when

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<v Speaker 2>you seek a certain political outcome from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Mass that you draw well from unelected individuals. So the

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<v Speaker 1>language and the ballot itself we vote on. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to vote no, of course most normal Americans will. And

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<v Speaker 1>the and the title of this act, it says this

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<v Speaker 1>causes jerry mandering, and people are going to vote for that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's exactly what it says. You have to jerry mander.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to read it to you, bill. Here's what

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<v Speaker 2>it says. It says the proposed amendment would repeal constitutional

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<v Speaker 2>protections against jerry mandering that were approved by nearly three

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<v Speaker 2>quarters of Ohio electors. That's what the when you when

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<v Speaker 2>you pick your ballot up and you read it before voting,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it's going to say. The point number two

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<v Speaker 2>says that it establishes a new you taxpayer funded commission

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<v Speaker 2>of appointees required to jerry mander. How do you vote

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<v Speaker 2>the ball language bille.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you vote for? Even Tony Bender would vote

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<v Speaker 3>against that you tell.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how in the hell can you vote for

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<v Speaker 1>that when the language of the ballot tells you exactly

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<v Speaker 1>bend over and thank you sir? May I have another now? Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>we had the circus came into town. This is in

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<v Speaker 1>exactly your district, but you're a small town kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a guy. Springfield, Ohio. Bout three weeks ago, two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest story in the country was Haitians barbecue and

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<v Speaker 1>cats and dogs. Have you noticed the last few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>there's no coverage at all of Springfield, Ohio anymore because

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<v Speaker 1>the circus has moved on but left behind twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>Haitians living in Clark County. And now even the Biden

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<v Speaker 1>administration has said that when their temporary status ends in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six, they have to go back home. So

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are saying, we've used this

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<v Speaker 1>issue to our benefit to paint Donald Trump in the

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<v Speaker 1>most negative light. Possible. Man out, when this is over,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going back to porter a Prince. How many do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the Haitians? And either what whichever candidate wins,

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<v Speaker 1>either Kamala Harris or Donald Trump. I would maintain that way,

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<v Speaker 1>if Kamala Harris is elected, she's going to extend temporary

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<v Speaker 1>protective status parolees to the Haitians in Clark County.

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<v Speaker 3>But Trump is not.

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<v Speaker 1>But as we sit here this afternoon on Tuesday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>both candidates are saying the status ends in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Does anyone believe that twenty thousand Haitians, along with three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand others all over the country are going to say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been ordered out of the country. I'll go back

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<v Speaker 1>to port A Prince. Is that ever going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Not going to happen. Dylan, who in the right mind

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<v Speaker 2>things that to Biden inherits administration? Even know who these

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<v Speaker 2>people are? Where did they live? How would I find them?

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<v Speaker 2>How would I collect them? How could I make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that they are actually complying with the requirement to depart

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<v Speaker 2>our country? They don't have any events. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just in Springfield, Ohio. It's happening in small

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<v Speaker 2>towns all across the Ohio that this federal government is

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<v Speaker 2>putting these illegal immigrants into a country, waving a special

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a class of cultures and they're here's the

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<v Speaker 2>other thing built think about this. We don't mind immigration.

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<v Speaker 2>We want people from other countries that are smart, that

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<v Speaker 2>are intelligent, that are educated, that are productive, that are

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<v Speaker 2>going to do something good for our country. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you bring them in mass here and they live together,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no assimilate, assimilation built. They're not trying to become Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to learn our language, they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to learn a culture. And that's key to being an

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<v Speaker 2>American is being willing to assimilate.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you get more money from the federal government under

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<v Speaker 1>Biden of Harris if you're a Haitian than if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a live in North Carolina or if you live in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're going to penny pinch. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a Haitian, billions of dollars come your way. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens there. And the key to status you want

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio is read the ballot language. The first capsule

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning, it says it takes away the constitutional

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<v Speaker 1>protections that we voted on in twenty fifteen and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen and requires this unelected board to Jerry Mander Adam Burnham.

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<v Speaker 3>I exactly correct about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're reading it right from the text, Willie, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know that it says everything we need to know, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you've got to watch out. They're using Republican style

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<v Speaker 2>messaging on this to try to convince Trump voters that

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<v Speaker 2>somehow they should be voting yes winning the exact opposite

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<v Speaker 2>of that, you should be voting no if you're if

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<v Speaker 2>you're if you're voting for Trump. And in fact, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>when you drive around Hamilton County Claramont County, you see

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of Donald Trump's signs and vote No signs

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<v Speaker 2>in the same yard together, because Ohioans are starting to

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<v Speaker 2>learn that Trump is asking Ohioans for a no vote

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't want to allow your Soros and hands

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<v Speaker 2>short speeds to change the way we draw maps in Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>All of the money is coming from there. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>here's another little known fact. Of all of the money

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<v Speaker 2>that's been raised on behalf of Issue one, less than

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<v Speaker 2>one percent of it has come from actual Ohio citizen individuals,

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<v Speaker 2>less than one percent.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can't win at the ballot box, change the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what's happening. And I hope the American people,

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<v Speaker 1>I think will become informed and vote no in Statusue one.

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<v Speaker 1>Once again, Adam Bird, you're a great American. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Adam you're

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<v Speaker 1>a great American.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a great American too, Billy, I'm great. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thankful to be in the same conversation with you. Appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to be on your show. And let's go

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<v Speaker 2>vote for Bernie Marino too. I'm tired of Sharon Brown

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<v Speaker 2>act in one way when he's in Ohio, acting like

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<v Speaker 2>an all shot, kind of good nighborly moderate, and then

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<v Speaker 2>when he goes to Washington, d C. He changes like

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<v Speaker 2>a chameleon into a radical Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi kind

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<v Speaker 2>of radical democrat.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Shared Brown started in politics with Richard Nixon,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's time to retire Shared Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>That's quite a feat, all right. Once again, Adam Bird,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you very much, thank you. Let's get it, let's

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<v Speaker 3>continue with them more.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Reds Baseball a big announcement Yesterday off but

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday the Bengals are back out a Bengals at the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants on a Sunday night game. They tried to flex

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<v Speaker 1>it out and couldn't do it, And no team in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League. It's a worse record than the

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Bengals. Write that down, Bill Cunningham, seven hundreds WULW.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile in the Reason, look out, Eddie and Rockie, there

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<v Speaker 2>are three bears behind you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, they're big fans of our show. Oh where

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<v Speaker 3>are you all heading? We're helping them out with a

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<v Speaker 3>squatter problem. There's some blond chick eating their portion and

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<v Speaker 3>sleeping in their beds. What can you do to get

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<v Speaker 3>her out? Two words, buddy, karaoke machine?

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<v Speaker 1>Why MCA, it's fun to stay at Why.

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<v Speaker 3>Eddie and Rocke give your day a fairy tale end

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<v Speaker 3>This afternoon at three on seven hundred WLW, Men over

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<v Speaker 3>forty five, do you have a frequent urgent
