Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: We're talking and we'll continue in this hour for however
Speaker 2: long you'd like. And there's some other topics we can
Speaker 2: get to, but we're talking about how quickly, how quickly
Speaker 2: all of the conversation about changing the tone of the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty the twenty twenty four presidential election, be it
Speaker 2: more dignified, emphasize our reasons as Americans that we celebrate.
Speaker 2: And now, all of a sudden, within two weeks, we
Speaker 2: have both the Democrats and the Republicans. Republicans in the
Speaker 2: name of Donald Trump and the Democrats just opening up
Speaker 2: all guns, I mean, leaving nothing on the table. Democrats
Speaker 2: are calling the Republicans weirdos. Donald Trump is talking and
Speaker 2: telling the Christians to vote film that. Ever after don't
Speaker 2: understand why we can't just get a campaign dealing with
Speaker 2: issues so that you can say, Okay, this is what
Speaker 2: this candidate believes, this is what that candidate believes. Now
Speaker 2: against that backdrop, we have our own senior Senator from Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren, who has always done everything in her career
Speaker 2: by the book. I mean without doubt that Warren now
Speaker 2: is calling for a pathway to citizenship for the eleven
Speaker 2: million people or so who have come here illegally. They're
Speaker 2: called migrants. Some people think of them as illegal immigrants,
Speaker 2: but we'll use the term migrants, which is the term
Speaker 2: that is the polite, more polite term. And Warren, who
Speaker 2: herself has always done everything by the rules, she now
Speaker 2: somehow wants to give the eleven million who have come
Speaker 2: here illegally a priority of a pathway to citizenship. I
Speaker 2: would say, let's give how however, many million people are
Speaker 2: waiting legally around the world to come here by going
Speaker 2: to US consulates in their home country and have filled
Speaker 2: out the paperwork. Let's put all of them at the
Speaker 2: front of the line because they're doing it legally. But ironically, Elizabeth,
Speaker 2: who has never ever gilded the lily, never ever claimed
Speaker 2: to be something that she wasn't. She's always presented herself
Speaker 2: clearly directly who she is to the American public. Never
Speaker 2: never has she claimed any identity other than her true identity.
Speaker 2: Hit it rob.
Speaker 3: Like like, so as you can say, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're the ones who talk about word nation
Speaker 2: of laws and we got to do things right and
Speaker 2: all of that, which is wonderful in in conversation, but
Speaker 2: it's not so in practice. And if we're going to
Speaker 2: open up the floodgates here and we're not going to
Speaker 2: make these people's citizens before November, though, I think probably
Speaker 2: the Democrats would like that. We did this back in
Speaker 2: the late nineteen eighties with Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neil.
Speaker 2: They basically there were about two million people in the
Speaker 2: country who were here illegally and they were given a
Speaker 2: pathway to citizenship, and both the Democrats and Republicans said,
Speaker 2: we'll never do it again, this is one last time.
Speaker 2: Well it didn't turn out. Let me go to Linus
Speaker 2: in reading Linus, thank you for waiting a little extra
Speaker 2: longer there. I appreciate it very much.
Speaker 4: Go right ahead, Yes, sir, Good evening, Good evening. I'm
Speaker 4: at a crossroad right now because Trump he's not a
Speaker 4: union man, and you know, Boston's a union city, and
Speaker 4: yet people like Michelle Woo, she's against building in the city.
Speaker 4: And my problem is is that, you know, some of
Speaker 4: the guys who I've had to work with before in
Speaker 4: the past, now recently, they can't even speak English on
Speaker 4: a union job. And and that's a real issue. For
Speaker 4: communication skills. You know, that's you have to be able
Speaker 4: to work with somebody when you're doing heavy construction.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's some safety concerns there as well, I
Speaker 2: guess exactly.
Speaker 4: And and so now they only have to have a
Speaker 4: Social Security number. I don't know or I don't know
Speaker 4: how they're even getting into the union. So that, I mean,
Speaker 4: that's beside the point.
Speaker 2: But what what you are you with? Pipe fitters? Are
Speaker 2: you with? What do you union with?
Speaker 4: I missed that iron workers? Maybe maybe these guys are
Speaker 4: maybe these guys are citizens, but their English is still
Speaker 4: broken English, and so that's still you know, that's a
Speaker 4: major communication error. And and that's what worries me. And then Michelle, Oh,
Speaker 4: she's completely against building. So you know, it's tough to
Speaker 4: vote for Democrats when you know they're letting their like
Speaker 4: you said, open the fudgates, letting everybody in, yeah, trying
Speaker 4: to get job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you got to make a decision as
Speaker 2: to you know, who you want to vote for. I mean,
Speaker 2: we have in Massachusetts, we're spending about a billion dollars
Speaker 2: a year on people who have come here illegally and
Speaker 2: who are now taking advantage of our generosity. There's an
Speaker 2: article that will be in the Boston Globe. I believe
Speaker 2: it's tomorrow. They posted it this afternoon, and essentially the
Speaker 2: headline says, at night, migrant families war to Boston streets
Speaker 2: as shelter system shuts them out. The problem is they
Speaker 2: just don't have enough room. And we have a reputation
Speaker 2: and of more and more folks have come here, and
Speaker 2: now even the Globe is saying, I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: inviting someone to your house to come to a party
Speaker 2: and you just don't have room for.
Speaker 4: The people, right exactly, and so and so now it's
Speaker 4: it's it's it's it comes to the point where there's
Speaker 4: not enough jobs for because you know work is going
Speaker 4: to slow down pretty soon in the city. You know
Speaker 4: things go in cycles. And I don't understand why we're
Speaker 4: inviting all these people in to work in our city
Speaker 4: when the people who have been here for generations, who
Speaker 4: have had good standards are on the bench, while other
Speaker 4: people who have just fought in a book and and
Speaker 4: and just gotten in and don't know the right way
Speaker 4: to do things.
Speaker 2: Well, if you if you jump to the head of
Speaker 2: the line, I mean.
Speaker 4: Well, exactly like you said, so you're right that that
Speaker 4: you know, the cream of the crowd is going to rise.
Speaker 2: So no, no, what I'm saying is that that if
Speaker 2: that if that if if we're in line to go
Speaker 2: to a restaurant, or we're in line to buy tickets
Speaker 2: to a ballgame or whatever, and you jump to the
Speaker 2: head of the line and all of a sudden they say, well, gee,
Speaker 2: you know, there's no room with the restaurant.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's not the way we're supposed to
Speaker 2: function in this country. I mean, in this country, this
Speaker 2: is supposed to be a place where you follow rules.
Speaker 2: Were we were, we were all brought up to be
Speaker 2: rules followers. And we got eleven million people in the
Speaker 2: country who not only are here, they know how to
Speaker 2: take advantage of the situation. I don't know why. I
Speaker 2: wish I had a good answer.
Speaker 4: And that's the problem, because you know, I've spent a
Speaker 4: lot of time and doing just parts of the state,
Speaker 4: you know, Broughton and up on the North Shore and reading,
Speaker 4: lived in Dorchester, lived out in Western mass I've lived
Speaker 4: all over the state. And it's just it's sad because
Speaker 4: people just you know, it might be my generation, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm a young guy. I'm twenty nine years old, and
Speaker 4: maybe that the problem is that everybody's getting pushed towards
Speaker 4: college and nobody actually wants to work in honest days
Speaker 4: living anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, and that what they're gonna do is they're gonna
Speaker 2: try to make guys like you who maybe didn't go
Speaker 2: to college but have worked hard for ten years out
Speaker 2: of high school, have developed a trade of craft and
Speaker 2: you're good at it, and you're gonna get squeezed because
Speaker 2: they're gonna say, well, you have to pay for the
Speaker 2: for the kid who who took loans because they were
Speaker 2: an art major or a sociology major and they have
Speaker 2: a couple of hundred thousand dollars worth of loans. How
Speaker 2: fair is that?
Speaker 4: Wait? Why should exactly?
Speaker 2: Well, so again, these are these are the things you
Speaker 2: got to consider. Line, is this your first time call
Speaker 2: on the show. I don't recall talking.
Speaker 4: With you before I called once.
Speaker 2: For we need to call more often because I think
Speaker 2: it's a voter like you who when you finally decide
Speaker 2: who you're going to vote for, I think you will
Speaker 2: end up voting for whoever wins this election. So i'd
Speaker 2: appreciate if you check in with us a little bit
Speaker 2: more frequently. Okay, thank you, Linus, Thank you very much
Speaker 2: for your call. That's a great call in my opinion.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Thanks Linus. We're gonna take a quick break and we
Speaker 2: got Mark and Derry and Tricia and Salem coming up.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
Speaker 2: to Night. Thanks studios on WBZ News Radio. All right,
Speaker 2: let me go next to Mark up in Derry, New Hampshire.
Speaker 2: Mark A, Mark, welcome.
Speaker 7: Okay, thank you. As an aside, real quickly, I recently
Speaker 7: saw a video clip from one of the uh leftist
Speaker 7: boxist anchors on MSNBC who stated, and no it was
Speaker 7: god Joy read, but it was someone else who stated
Speaker 7: that we should not be calling these folks migrants, not
Speaker 7: even illegal aliens, which is what they are, but we
Speaker 7: should be referring to them as newcomers.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's been around for a while, Mark, this,
Speaker 2: but that was about three months ago when all of
Speaker 2: a sudden I heard that they're newcomers. Yeah, it's always
Speaker 2: called it's Gnom Chomsky and the linguistics. So it's that's
Speaker 2: you know, that's it's euphemisms. It's euphemisms. They're illegal aliens.
Speaker 2: They're here illegally, okay. You know, a migrant always was
Speaker 2: the Caesar Chavez person who worked in the fields of
Speaker 2: California picking vegetables of fruit, who came in every year
Speaker 2: and left voluntarily every year they came in. They were
Speaker 2: migrant workers. What they were called newcomers. They make it
Speaker 2: sound like someone's moved into I know what town you live, Well,
Speaker 2: you're in Derry, New Hampshire. Someone who moved in bought
Speaker 2: a house in Derry, New Hampshire, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: the newcomer wagon arrived and you know, people showed up
Speaker 2: with chocolate chip cookies and a bottle of wine and
Speaker 2: some flowers. Welcome to the neighborhood, mark, how are you?
Speaker 2: What's your wife's name?
Speaker 7: So you referenced earlier Kamala Harris and twenty nineteen and
Speaker 7: she dropped out of the presidential race prior to the
Speaker 7: Iowa Caucasus because she barely, if I remember correctly, got
Speaker 7: one percent of the total Democratic vote.
Speaker 2: Well, there was no vote, it was it was all polling,
Speaker 2: and she was she was doing so badly in the
Speaker 2: polling that she never She was the first Democrat to
Speaker 2: announce and she was the first to drop out. I mean,
Speaker 2: Kelsey Gabbard lasted longer than she did.
Speaker 7: But but the point of what I was looking to
Speaker 7: make is that the only statement that she made that
Speaker 7: in my time of knowing who she is and what
Speaker 7: she represents, she was one hundred percent right because the
Speaker 7: presidential debate where it was an open Democratic primary, so
Speaker 7: the many Democrats, and she called out Joe Biden when
Speaker 7: he was first elected to the Senate in seventy two
Speaker 7: and the years subsequently after that that he summed around
Speaker 7: with all the southern white Democrat segregationalists, particularly Robert W. Burr,
Speaker 7: who was the Grand Puba of the KKK time. And
Speaker 7: she was one hundred percent right about that. And it
Speaker 7: was my understanding that.
Speaker 2: Also he hung around with a lot Sam Irwin and
Speaker 2: Herman Talmadge and a whole bunch of them.
Speaker 7: Herman Chalmadge exactly, and even staan Thurman was a Democrat
Speaker 7: back then, and he was a segregationist as well well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people in the Democratic Party, you know,
Speaker 2: George Wallace, Lester maddox, Ov, farbas On, and on and on.
Speaker 2: And she went after him over uh his position on
Speaker 2: bussing and This was the famous quote where she talked
Speaker 2: about a little girl in California who who was on
Speaker 2: the bus and was was not busted to a better school,
Speaker 2: but but she was just simply bust into into her
Speaker 2: neighborhood and she wanted to get to a better school,
Speaker 2: and that he had opposed bussing, and Biden said, I
Speaker 2: didn't post bussing. I just wanted it to be handled
Speaker 2: by the states. Well, that's the same thing with the
Speaker 2: Republicans I was saying about abortion. They're saying, you know,
Speaker 2: we just wanted to be handled by the states. The
Speaker 2: amount of hypocrisy that is that influences both of these
Speaker 2: political parties of this point is overwhelming.
Speaker 7: I don't agree with you on that point. The Supreme
Speaker 7: Court ruled and they set it to the fifty states,
Speaker 7: which it should be. It's not mentioned in the Constitution,
Speaker 7: therefore it should be.
Speaker 2: The point that I'm making is that the point, if
Speaker 2: you understood what I was saying, Mark, the point I
Speaker 2: was making was that Biden now is criticizing the Supreme
Speaker 2: Court on abortion for sending it in the States, while
Speaker 2: he used it as a defense when she criticized his
Speaker 2: position when she was a little girl in Berkeley, California
Speaker 2: or the other.
Speaker 7: And the other thing too that he was quoted is
Speaker 7: I'm sure you know this. You think to know a
Speaker 7: lot about Biden's uh time in the Senate. In his
Speaker 7: early years, he made the comment, I don't want my
Speaker 7: children growing up in a jungle. That's what Joe Biden said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's made a lot of comments over the years,
Speaker 2: a lot of comments over the years which were tone deaf.
Speaker 2: I mean, he talked about how that, you know.
Speaker 8: Over in Delaware, you got to own a seven to eleven,
Speaker 8: you have to be an Indian, I mean have to be,
Speaker 8: you know, an Asian Indian.
Speaker 2: And yeah, he said.
Speaker 8: And he was the one who talked about President Obama
Speaker 8: then candidate Obama, and how that you know, he's a
Speaker 8: he's attractive, and he's cleaned, and he's a particular man.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was stunned that a black man, you know,
Speaker 2: could be articulate.
Speaker 7: Yeah. And the final the final point I want to
Speaker 7: make again real quickly, is that what I think what
Speaker 7: Donald Trump should pound and pound and pound on Kamala Harris,
Speaker 7: because this to me is just unquenscionable. But during the
Speaker 7: summer riots, after the death of Saint George Floyd in Minneapolis.
Speaker 2: You can just you can just say, George Floyd, you
Speaker 2: don't have to. You don't have to is the word
Speaker 2: Saint George Floyd. That's that's disrespectful opinion, that's disrespectful to him.
Speaker 2: He's he's he's no longer here to defend himself.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, well, well all right, all right? Then when
Speaker 7: Black Lives Matter burned down black uh businesses, they mooted,
Speaker 7: they even murdered people in one in cold blood, Kamala
Speaker 7: Harris was telling the American people that we should be
Speaker 7: uh financing anybody that got arrested.
Speaker 2: We should the bail the bail funds.
Speaker 7: Bail out murderers and rapists. And he's got the pounder
Speaker 7: over the head with that because and then she said
Speaker 7: they should not stop what they're doing, continue what they're doing.
Speaker 7: All right, there was mayhem all over this country.
Speaker 2: You know. I think that again. I think if if,
Speaker 2: if the Republicans were smart, they would stick with issues.
Speaker 2: But for for Donald Trump to be out there saying,
Speaker 2: as I played earlier, when you're Christians, vote for me, Christians, Like,
Speaker 2: what's that all about? Anyway? Martin? I appreciate your calling.
Speaker 2: Thank you for no doubt about it. Thank you, great night,
Speaker 2: good night, keep rolling here. Got a couple of lines
Speaker 2: at six one seven nine ten thirty and one line
Speaker 2: at six one seven two ten thirty. Going to go
Speaker 2: to Tricia in Salem, Massachusetts. Hey Tricia, how are you tonight? Welcome?
Speaker 9: Great thanks Dan, fabulous show, fabulous audience.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 9: I didn't really want to call because I have three
Speaker 9: points I want to make. The last guy was fabulous.
Speaker 9: And the thing that about the open borders with Camilla
Speaker 9: Harris there, she has quite an agenda, quite a plastic straw. No,
Speaker 9: no gas cars and all that.
Speaker 5: Kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are all the reasons why those are all
Speaker 2: important issues.
Speaker 9: Important issues, yes, of course they are. And Trump is
Speaker 9: exact opposite of her. He wants to do away with
Speaker 9: that mandate about the electric cars. But anyways, with her
Speaker 9: and the open borders, that's what she wants, That's what
Speaker 9: the Democrats want. They're the John Terry, Bill Gates, al
Speaker 9: Gore people, climate change all over the world, and that's
Speaker 9: why they don't care that we have open borders, because
Speaker 9: they want the one world thing. And we can all
Speaker 9: eat some cockroaches for dinner. That's one thing. The other
Speaker 9: thing is that your man Sonuna up there in New
Speaker 9: Hampshire came out. I heard a quick thing on w
Speaker 9: b Z news where he defended Donald Trump and explained
Speaker 9: what the mouth of him is, you know, meant when
Speaker 9: he was saying no more voting after this election, and
Speaker 9: I like Sonunu saying that, which I wished, I wish
Speaker 9: I would have really known. But he explained what Donald meant,
Speaker 9: Ronald Trump meant, although it came across like crazy, you know,
Speaker 9: like there was going to be a dictatorship and he
Speaker 9: was going to be what.
Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to the point that I'm trying
Speaker 2: to make is when Trump engages in that sort of
Speaker 2: wild eyed rhetoric, which to the average perssion who is
Speaker 2: going to think that's insane? Why is why? Why is
Speaker 2: he saying to people, you know, Christians, I want you,
Speaker 2: he should want everyone to vote for him whatever there
Speaker 2: the demographic background and their religious background or the non
Speaker 2: religious background. That's how you get along.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, you got to go over the news about
Speaker 9: a few hours ago. It was of five or six
Speaker 9: o'clock news and Snooka why I can't pronounce his name,
Speaker 9: I'm sure I'll.
Speaker 2: Read it in the newspapers tomorrow.
Speaker 9: I'm saying, yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't believe he came
Speaker 9: out and defended him for another one. And then I
Speaker 9: wrote a crazy little slogan, votha Kennedy, He's our man.
Speaker 9: If he can't do it, no one can. And what
Speaker 9: I mean by it he can do it is save
Speaker 9: our democracy because Pamela Harris will ruin this country. If
Speaker 9: you think Joe Biden. You said it earlier, I thought
Speaker 9: that was fabulous. You said, oh, if you want more
Speaker 9: of this mess, just vote for her, and that is
Speaker 9: definitely true.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that she will. She will take the
Speaker 2: country in the same direction that President Biden's associates. Again,
Speaker 2: I don't think Joe Biden's been calling the plays for
Speaker 2: a long time, and I think that he's got people
Speaker 2: around him who are telling him, have been telling him
Speaker 2: what to do. But that's I can't prove that, but
Speaker 2: that's what I believe. I think. I think that that
Speaker 2: he relies heavily upon his advisers. I don't think that
Speaker 2: Joe Biden has any sort of an ideological norse. I
Speaker 2: think Joe Biden always ran in order to be elected
Speaker 2: and if he had to quote, you know, a Scottish
Speaker 2: politician and plagiar eyes from that was and that was
Speaker 2: what was necessary in nineteen eighty seven. He did it.
Speaker 2: I mean, he just his goal was to always be elected.
Speaker 2: And guess what, he has always been elected these men
Speaker 2: his entire life, either as a US senator, vice president,
Speaker 2: or president of the United States.
Speaker 1: So would make a.
Speaker 9: Great a great comedy show. And you're in one of
Speaker 9: your girls there from Worcester, Susan. We're asking about some
Speaker 9: debate or some speech that Biden gave and she said,
Speaker 9: I couldn't watch it. I thought that was a sterring ball.
Speaker 2: And all right, well, thank you very much to Ash,
Speaker 2: I appreciate your call. Thank you very much, Please continue
Speaker 2: listen to you.
Speaker 9: Bye bye bye.
Speaker 2: With that quick break news at the bottom of the
Speaker 2: are we are a minute or so late. Sorry about that.
Speaker 2: We'll get some wide open lines here six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: There is another topic that I do want to get
Speaker 2: to before the evening is out, which is the opening
Speaker 2: ceremony at the Olympics, which was quite a scene and
Speaker 2: drew from very interest reactions back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 2: You're on Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All Ale's next up, We're going to go to David
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. We got a couple of David's out
Speaker 2: there in San Francisco. We'll see which David this is.
Speaker 5: Oh, thanks Dan, Yeah, I was looking at an article.
Speaker 5: Let's see, it's about mar A Lago and how many
Speaker 5: immigrants that Donald Trump has hired down there. And apparently
Speaker 5: this year alone he's put in for one hundred and
Speaker 5: thirty six foreign workers and let's see the I think
Speaker 5: only one of them was refused through the Department of Labor.
Speaker 5: And apparently in the last ten years he's had sixteen
Speaker 5: hundred immigrants immigrants working for him.
Speaker 2: These legal immigrants are illegal immigrants.
Speaker 5: Well, this is through Forbes. But let's see the number
Speaker 5: of foreign workers increased as Trump's owned businesses at Trump's
Speaker 5: owned businesses last year.
Speaker 2: No, but I'm trying to understand, David. I believe you.
Speaker 2: But are these people who are here legally and they're
Speaker 2: here on some sort of B one visas or these
Speaker 2: illegal or does the article make a different distinction.
Speaker 5: It just says that the Labor Department showed requests for
Speaker 5: fifty three waiters and waitresses, seven hotel desk clerks, seventeen
Speaker 5: housekeeping queen.
Speaker 2: Well, look, if he made those requests through the labor department,
Speaker 2: then I'm assuming they would be by death. By virtue
Speaker 2: of that, they would be legal. They would be here legally.
Speaker 2: Maybe they could be on legally on the path they
Speaker 2: could have come here and applied on some sort of
Speaker 2: a special work visa. There's there's many ways in which
Speaker 2: people come in through the country to the country and
Speaker 2: actually work their way to citizenship. So that doesn't sound
Speaker 2: to me like a prom.
Speaker 5: The fact is is that there are companies, major companies
Speaker 5: in America that like to hire foreign workers because they
Speaker 5: can pay him a tenth of what the uh uh
Speaker 5: you know other people will get.
Speaker 2: And give me, give me an example of that, David,
Speaker 2: Because if if, if, if you're working as let's say,
Speaker 2: in I don't know, in in in a restaurant, as
Speaker 2: a as a chef, or as a waiter, or as
Speaker 2: a host or a hostess, if you happen to be
Speaker 2: here legally on some sort of you know, visa which
Speaker 2: allows you to work here, why would you be to
Speaker 2: be paid a tenth. That's I think that's a little.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're not paid as much, but I don't think
Speaker 2: they be paid a tenth of what the well.
Speaker 5: We could haggle about, we could haggle about the dollar amount.
Speaker 2: Well I think I think again, if you, if you're working,
Speaker 2: if you're an American in your work and making let's
Speaker 2: say twenty five dollars an hour as a as a
Speaker 2: chef or whatever, I don't think that the guy next
Speaker 2: to you is going to be making two fifty. What's
Speaker 2: your point? Your point is that you know, I thought
Speaker 2: you were going to tell me that that Trump was
Speaker 2: hiring illegals at mar Lago, and since it's done through
Speaker 2: the Labor Department, they could not be by by definition,
Speaker 2: couldn't be illegals.
Speaker 5: You do remember about a year ago there was an
Speaker 5: attempt to get a bipartisan bill to get the border
Speaker 5: dealt with, and the Republicans to a person, refused to
Speaker 5: take part in it because they know that this is
Speaker 5: an elect this is a hot button election issue, and
Speaker 5: it's the only issue that Trump can deal with because
Speaker 5: he has nothing else.
Speaker 2: And well, he actually does, he actually does. David, And again,
Speaker 2: I know that you want to speak in generalities. I mean,
Speaker 2: what was the inflation? Inflation something that affects everybody. I
Speaker 2: don't know what you'd do for living out there. I
Speaker 2: don't know what sort of a lifestyle you have. But
Speaker 2: do you find things in San Francisco more expensive today
Speaker 2: by a substantial margin than what they were four years ago?
Speaker 2: What do you pay for gas and in San Francisco
Speaker 2: these days?
Speaker 5: Well, I probably told you this years ago. I haven't
Speaker 5: owned a car in almost thirty years.
Speaker 2: Good for you, Good for you. You are not contributing to
Speaker 2: the problems with Yozo Lane. Do you go to the
Speaker 2: grocery store at all? Or no?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Sure, okay? So what what's your when you go to
Speaker 2: the grocery store? Do you notice things are more or
Speaker 2: less expensive in San Francisco compared to say.
Speaker 5: Try to buy seasonal food and that makes a difference, right?
Speaker 2: But do you again? But what I'm asking you, David,
Speaker 2: I'm really really trying. I'm struggling to have a conversation
Speaker 2: with you. I find that the grocery store here that
Speaker 2: just about everything has gone out. Stuff that three four
Speaker 2: years ago that cost two dollars and fifty cents are
Speaker 2: now just simple things like pepperge from cookies and now
Speaker 2: four dollars in night. I mean, it's I don't buy them.
Speaker 2: You know. I don't know about you. You may be
Speaker 2: wealthy and you don't notice it, but I really do
Speaker 2: watch this stuff and it's it's heck. You know.
Speaker 5: I don't disagree with you, But the point is is
Speaker 5: that it maybe it would be a smart idea for
Speaker 5: the Republicans to raise the minimum wage. Do you think
Speaker 5: they would ever do that hasn't been raised in something
Speaker 5: like seventeen years?
Speaker 2: Minimum wage in California is now twenty dollars. Well wait, wait,
Speaker 2: do you live in California? They just raised the minimum
Speaker 2: wage in California. I believe the twenty dollars, David.
Speaker 5: I believe it's eighteen something in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: But okay, I'll give you that. Okay, So it's been raised,
Speaker 2: and now a whole bunch of restaurants have closed up
Speaker 2: and have left.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Well, I I mean, why don't we why don't we
Speaker 2: raise How about if we do this, maybe you and
Speaker 2: I can agree on this because I'm desperately let's raise
Speaker 2: the minimum wage in californ on you to fifty dollars
Speaker 2: an hour. Okay, that means the average.
Speaker 5: Person be too short. That would be way short. You're
Speaker 5: a baby boomer, aren't you, Dan?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: All right. So in nineteen sixty eight, the minimum wage
Speaker 5: was a dollar. Sixty ounce of gold was thirty two dollars.
Speaker 5: It took you exactly twenty hours at minimum wage to
Speaker 5: buy an ounce of gold. Now today I haven't looked
Speaker 5: at it this exact day, but I think it's two
Speaker 5: thy four hundred and so that's that's.
Speaker 2: Roughly where it is. You're right, you're right, you're absolutely right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of people were smart and purchase go. I
Speaker 2: have some friends of mine. I have a friend of
Speaker 2: mine have been played in the NBA who used to
Speaker 2: tell me in the nineteen seventies, by gold, and I
Speaker 2: didn't take.
Speaker 5: This wage today should be one hundred and fifteen dollars.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you want to raise how but if we
Speaker 2: do this, let's do this. I'm going to agree with you.
Speaker 2: Let's raise the minimum wage to one hundred and fifteen
Speaker 2: dollars an hour at hour, okay, fair enough.
Speaker 5: That's that'll take care of the the money hoarders, people
Speaker 5: like Elon Musk and uh, you know, as all these
Speaker 5: rats that are are hoarding those.
Speaker 2: Now, what will you pay for David? When you do
Speaker 2: you ever go to a restaurant? I'm sure you do
Speaker 2: right in California?
Speaker 5: Oh sure?
Speaker 2: Okay, So what do you think you'll pay for a
Speaker 2: hamburger when the minimum wage at that restaurant is one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen dollars?
Speaker 5: Well, I couldn't tell you offhand, But what.
Speaker 2: Do you think you, David, you're you're you're a small guy.
Speaker 2: What do you think you what do you think you'll
Speaker 2: likely pay? Do you think you pay?
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the small picture, Dan, Yeah, okay, Dan,
Speaker 5: you got to look at the big pictures.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm with you. Let's raise the minimum Let's raise
Speaker 2: the minimum wage to one hundred and fifty dollars an
Speaker 2: hour and we can all carry on money in a wheelbarrow.
Speaker 2: That'd be great, you know, I mean, that's fine. Raise
Speaker 2: the minimum wage to one hundred and thirty dollars an hour.
Speaker 2: What do you think that's going to do to senior
Speaker 2: citizens on fixed income? Dave? What do you think that's
Speaker 2: going to do to see the citizens on fixing company?
Speaker 2: Get the plank ready, Rob, We're getting close to the plank.
Speaker 2: Can you answer that question, Dave? If we raise the
Speaker 2: minimum wage for waiters wages? Okay, we're gonna plank it.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Dave Dunk. We had a long conversation. Have
Speaker 2: a great night. We'll be back on night Side with
Speaker 2: more right after this. Now back to Dan Ray Mine
Speaker 2: from the Window World.
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Speaker 2: Where we're gonna go next, gonna go to Warren down
Speaker 2: Fall River, Warren, Welcome next to Nightside.
Speaker 6: How are you, hey, Dan, I'm good, I'm good. You know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: that guy before me was you know, he couldn't answer,
Speaker 6: you know, a question worthless likes. You know, it's just frustrating,
Speaker 6: but you know it's it's funny that, you know, you
Speaker 6: know that we have the two worst Kennedy literally in
Speaker 6: the world running with Kamala and then Trump. You know, Trump,
Speaker 6: because his mouth is his worst enemy. I mean, he
Speaker 6: opens his mouth, he starts himselves, he starts the name calling,
Speaker 6: and he loses the independent voters who would who he needs,
Speaker 6: who he needs to turn while Kamalva, you know, is
Speaker 6: the same as Biden. You know, her and Biden are
Speaker 6: the same people. And I'm sorry, but the last three
Speaker 6: and a half years have been really horrible economically. The
Speaker 6: board has been wide open. And yeah, think about this.
Speaker 6: You know, eleven and a half million illegals crossing into
Speaker 6: this country. All right, what does it cost a person
Speaker 6: to live at all minimum in America? He just times
Speaker 6: that by eleven eleven point five million, you get and
Speaker 6: you get trillions of dollars. And yeah, and they should
Speaker 6: not be rewarded for that, yea, you know. And I
Speaker 6: mean a short story for me, something that you didn't
Speaker 6: know about me is I almost became a dual citizen
Speaker 6: of Canada and the United States. I almost married a
Speaker 6: woman up in Canada, and I had to. I was
Speaker 6: going through the consulate. I was doing through all the
Speaker 6: right things, you know, to see what it would become.
Speaker 6: You know, what the paperwork was. And there was a
Speaker 6: lot of paperwork. And I was doing it and I
Speaker 6: was doing it the right way. And and I think
Speaker 6: that the only people that we should grant amnesty, if
Speaker 6: we grant amnesty at all, too, are people who are
Speaker 6: doing it doing it the right way, you know, I agree.
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, if you're doing it the
Speaker 2: right way, you don't need amnesty. I mean, yeah, there's
Speaker 2: a process to do it. There's a process to go
Speaker 2: get a driver's license in America. You have to go
Speaker 2: and you know apply uh and take a driver's test uh,
Speaker 2: and and prove that you know the rules of the
Speaker 2: there's a written test, if I recall, and then there's
Speaker 2: the driver's test.
Speaker 6: Yeah. And have you ever seen a person who who
Speaker 6: went through the process legally and you know, went through
Speaker 6: the ceremony of becoming a citizen.
Speaker 2: They are so proud, absolutely waving an American flag absolutely.
Speaker 6: Yeah, with with pride.
Speaker 2: And I and I think that I think that those
Speaker 2: new citizens want to assimilate into the country and they
Speaker 2: want to become Americanized. They want to learn English they weren't.
Speaker 2: They want to become familiar with our culture, whether it
Speaker 2: is the movies or sports or whatever they want. Many
Speaker 2: of those folks learn English, believe it or not, by
Speaker 2: watching television on days, on daytime television, or or listening
Speaker 2: to talk shows. I mean on television. The good part
Speaker 2: about it is you got subtitles, so you can you
Speaker 2: can listen to the word and then read that. You
Speaker 2: can sort of learn it by just observing. But those
Speaker 2: are people who want desperately to become American citizens because
Speaker 2: they want a better life for themselves than their.
Speaker 6: Kids, exactly, And we don't know, We have no idea
Speaker 6: what's coming into this country. And the people that are
Speaker 6: coming over that we that we are stopping basically have
Speaker 6: no skills. They have zero skills, They don't know the language,
Speaker 6: they they they have no work skills. So we have
Speaker 6: to build them up. And that's even more money to
Speaker 6: do if we have a plan for them, which we don't. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and it's sort of like.
Speaker 2: Well, the Globe will have an article tomorrow, which again
Speaker 2: they posted today, which I mentioned earlier at night. My
Speaker 2: families wander Boston streets as shelter system shuts them out.
Speaker 2: So can you imagine being a single mom with two
Speaker 2: or three kids here, or a couple of parents with
Speaker 2: a couple of kids wandering city streets in the city
Speaker 2: they don't know. Welcome to America.
Speaker 6: Exactly what I said. I see the same thing. Okay,
Speaker 6: I get off the you know, I mean, I'm you know,
Speaker 6: when I get off you know, I'm driving home now,
Speaker 6: and when I get to the Fall River exit. Yeah,
Speaker 6: there's a homeless person right at the at the end
Speaker 6: of the exit. There. If I go into the city
Speaker 6: to do anything more. They're wandering. They're wandering the main
Speaker 6: streets and this and that and and we've kind of
Speaker 6: induced them to come here with that right to shelter law.
Speaker 2: They were all sorts of sign There was signage up
Speaker 2: at the border in Mexico Mexican US Mexican boarder telling
Speaker 2: them go to Massachusetts, and word of mouth, that's why
Speaker 2: we're overwhelmed in Massachusetts. Well, and I think you want
Speaker 2: to get one more in before the break.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. All right, let's go next to Mike and Beverly, Massachusetts. Mike,
Speaker 2: you were next on nights. I appreciate your patience.
Speaker 5: Go aheahead, sir, Hey Dan, you know I doing great.
Speaker 2: Mike. What's on your mind tonight?
Speaker 1: I have listener and God bless your Dan. A couple
Speaker 1: of call, a couple of calls ago, like he was.
Speaker 5: Anyway he was that.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, he was actually more under control
Speaker 2: tonight than normally. And I actually had I thought a
Speaker 2: pretty good conversation with it for a few minutes and
Speaker 2: then it kind of went off the rails. But we've
Speaker 2: had conversations that lasted like twenty two seconds before he
Speaker 2: got the blank.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, telling you, hey, keep trying to beat
Speaker 1: that border bill. And that border bill was no bill,
Speaker 1: it was h h so prior to that that chach
Speaker 1: Shiller won't break on the floor.
Speaker 2: So absolutely, absolutely, And under the Biden bill that he
Speaker 2: had worked out with some Republicans, including Senator Langford from Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to get into it. They were allowing
Speaker 2: five thousand, on an average of five thousand people every
Speaker 2: day to come in at the border crossings, but it
Speaker 2: had to average five thousand a day over a week.
Speaker 2: So what that meant was thirty five thousand people a week.
Speaker 2: The bill that Biden has ordered as an executive order
Speaker 2: is half that. Now. I don't know that either one
Speaker 2: of them will be enforced. But actually the Republicans, when
Speaker 2: they decided to follow Trump's instinct and not go for
Speaker 2: the bill, it actually became a lower average number. Instead
Speaker 2: of five thousand, it was twenty five hundred. If you
Speaker 2: multiplied five thousand times three hundred and sixty five days,
Speaker 2: you're talking about like one point eight million people.
Speaker 1: But again, quickly, wait, let me go just make the
Speaker 1: numbers that Biden flew in here America from all that
Speaker 1: country does not go against the numbers. Yep, flying people
Speaker 1: over so they are across to the border, and those
Speaker 1: numbers are not count against the twenty five hundred dollar
Speaker 1: number they were flying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were also flying them in for years
Speaker 2: in night flights into into Logan Airport. I'm told people
Speaker 2: the airport have told me that in New York, uh In,
Speaker 2: in Westchester County and all over the country. The whole
Speaker 2: idea was to flood flood the country with them with
Speaker 2: with illegal immigrants, migrants, newcomers, whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 1: Just to pay information, DAN is a flooding more common
Speaker 1: before the new presidency counts right now, So just be
Speaker 1: aware they're they're like migrating that way right now. So
Speaker 1: there's like ten thousand on the way auf there right now.
Speaker 1: So we will.
Speaker 2: We will monitor it, I promise you, and we'll talk
Speaker 2: about it when we come back. We are going to
Speaker 2: change topics. We talk about that Olympics opening ceremony, which
Speaker 2: has been received with a lot of controversy. Some people
Speaker 2: think it was a blasphemy, others say, hey, it's totally misunderstood.
Speaker 2: Want to know what you'd think. We'll be back right
Speaker 2: after eleven o'clock news here on nightside