Speaker 1: Which I don't know you've done. We've both done interest
Speaker 1: for the Nolan retro So now we're you know what
Speaker 1: you go, sir, you go?
Speaker 2: Okay, Hello and welcome back to the Geek First podcast.
Speaker 2: I don't know what episode number of this is, but
Speaker 2: of tenant In, Adam Harcaster, Dylan Muss, and I'm joined
Speaker 2: by two very special gentlemen. I don't know if they
Speaker 2: have nicknames, so I'm gonna let them introduce nickname.
Speaker 3: We're in spoilers more now, I just say, I just say,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm the number one Robert Pass and fanboy.
Speaker 3: Trust now he is not a spoilers spoilers review.
Speaker 1: What you know? I saw the Christopher Nolan one that.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Taylor, I'm the Pincer movement Taylor Field, Oh very nice.
Speaker 2: I like that one a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So if if you're just joining us today, well there's
Speaker 2: a lot going on. We did the entire retrospective of
Speaker 2: all of Nolan's movies, a couple exceptions, every most part.
Speaker 2: You can check out the feed all that's on there.
Speaker 2: And this is gonna be a strictly spoilers you Normally
Speaker 2: we do a non splitters section and then the spoiler section,
Speaker 2: but since this movie isn't really releasing everywhere, releasing at
Speaker 2: different times, we just decided to separate them. So these
Speaker 2: two gentlemen, Travison Taylor did a non spoiler review that's
Speaker 2: about half an hour long that you can check out
Speaker 2: on the feeds now, and then this is gonna be
Speaker 2: all out spoilers. I'm good. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys have anything else you want to plug for today.
Speaker 3: No other than we'll be dropping new Mune, so any
Speaker 3: Marvel fans of that and then yeah, all I would
Speaker 3: say is, I don't know. We have not talked about when,
Speaker 3: but sometimes in the near future we'll be doing some
Speaker 3: sort of stream for Marvel Vengers, so that comes out
Speaker 3: next week. So just subscribe to our Twitter and Facebook
Speaker 3: fall us there and then we'll let you know. So
Speaker 3: the only thing I want to ask you Dan, have
Speaker 3: you listened to our non spoilers? I did, yep, okay,
Speaker 3: so you have.
Speaker 1: So I want to know how you feel about this movie,
Speaker 1: because you know we feel about this movie. So I do.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because I was listening. When I was
Speaker 2: listening to it, like you guys sounded pretty similar on
Speaker 2: like most things. But then when it came to like
Speaker 2: the number rating, you guys were different by like a
Speaker 2: factor of three numbers. That's subject number rating.
Speaker 4: My number, my number rating it. As I said in
Speaker 4: that cast, it's gonna change. I know it's gonna go higher.
Speaker 1: But even then, like this, like the music score, so
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, he said it was fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4: No, No, but I I re listened to some track
Speaker 4: styles at work today and like now that I could
Speaker 4: not have to like focus on dialogue.
Speaker 1: I enjoy that.
Speaker 2: So what do you think, Dyn, Yeah, I think I'm
Speaker 2: pretty similar to you guys. If not, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: even a bit lower. Honestly, I rate after the movie.
Speaker 2: I was just considering it so much, and the more
Speaker 2: I thought I about today, I think I've realized kind
Speaker 2: of how disappointed I am. I I love the concept,
Speaker 2: but I feel like I could say that about any
Speaker 2: one of Nolan's movies. Yeah. I always compliment what he
Speaker 2: does with time, because I think that's just such an
Speaker 2: interesting theme that he tackles. And I feel like, if
Speaker 2: you look at he probably has this big notebook with
Speaker 2: all these movie ideas, right, and I feel like there's
Speaker 2: a whole chapter that that's dedicated just to things with time.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, yeah, I've done that, Let's do dreams
Speaker 2: that have weirdiscape.
Speaker 1: He has five more time movies coming, you know it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. But I just don't think this was the
Speaker 2: best idea. Like it sounds cool on paper, but I
Speaker 2: think it should have stayed in that notebook. It's just
Speaker 2: I don't know if Like, I don't get a lot
Speaker 2: of this movie, and part of that is probably a
Speaker 2: user error me not understanding, but I also feel like
Speaker 2: the movie did not do a good job of holding
Speaker 2: my hand along the way. I don't understand a lot,
Speaker 2: and it's not to the point where Inception confused me.
Speaker 2: When I first saw it. I understood enough of it,
Speaker 2: but I was like, Okay, I gotta go back and
Speaker 2: see it again because I need to figure out these
Speaker 2: particular things. I don't even know what I'd look for
Speaker 2: on a second watch of this movie. I will watch
Speaker 2: it again at some point, but overall, I think I
Speaker 2: am pretty disappointed, and I don't think there's really many points,
Speaker 2: many story beats that really landed with much impact for me.
Speaker 2: There was kind of one moment that I thought was
Speaker 2: quite good. But other than that, I didn't feel too
Speaker 2: attached to any characters. That kind of thing. I'd say.
Speaker 2: On like the technical front, it's it's you know, Christopher Nolan,
Speaker 2: it's stellar. Great sympatography. I like the music. I think
Speaker 2: the balance is sometimes really whack. I couldn't hear a
Speaker 2: lot of dial real Yeah, but you know, special effects obviously,
Speaker 2: he does a lot of practical effects, especially the playing scene,
Speaker 2: which I really appreciate. I thought all the acting was good.
Speaker 2: I didn't and I guess it kind of ends there
Speaker 2: in terms of technicals. I actually thought the writing was
Speaker 2: not that great in this movie. I thought the main
Speaker 2: character wasn't and his name is protagonist. I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't think the protagonist was very well done at all.
Speaker 2: I didn't feel that attached to him. So yeah, overall,
Speaker 2: I think I'm a bit a bit disappointed and obviously rewatch.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll solve some maybe questions I have, But
Speaker 2: on the first watch, I was not too happy with
Speaker 2: the result. Unfortunately.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I didn't like it as least as I
Speaker 3: did Interstellar, but Interstelle I still felt like it had
Speaker 3: that feeling of I was like, okay, when I watched
Speaker 3: this again, I might like it a little bit more,
Speaker 3: and I feel that way with Tenant, but I don't
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna like it like bounds By more. You know,
Speaker 3: like there's sometimes where I go, oh, I had these
Speaker 3: problems because I didn't understand you see it again, like
Speaker 3: you said with inception, even problems, but just like questions
Speaker 3: where this is, there's still like structural things that I
Speaker 3: don't like, Like I just want to start with because
Speaker 3: I said this in the Yeah and the Nonspoys about
Speaker 3: the villain. I really liked him at the beginning because
Speaker 3: he was like really cold and cool and calm, collect
Speaker 3: I like his dialogue.
Speaker 1: But I felt like he took a big shift when
Speaker 1: and I didn't.
Speaker 3: Like the editing of it when he brought her to
Speaker 3: that room and he was like beating her up and
Speaker 3: everything one like I think as Nolan always tries to
Speaker 3: keep his movie pg. Thirteen, Just like the editing of
Speaker 3: that scene, like they were trying to make it look
Speaker 3: like he was hitting her but he he wasn't. It
Speaker 3: looked like they like it was really choppy, but then
Speaker 3: just him going on about being a fucking tiger, and
Speaker 3: just like it didn't feel like like that didn't feel
Speaker 3: like an no Olan movie. And that's where I said, like,
Speaker 3: some of the strengths of being like a Bond movie
Speaker 3: or there, but some of the strengths as far as
Speaker 3: the other thing, I was disappointed. Like the big reveal
Speaker 3: of what Tenant's gonna do or what he's gonna do
Speaker 3: is like he's just gonna end the world. And I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I, you know, like I expected a
Speaker 3: bit more from Christopher Nolan to be honest. Then when
Speaker 3: they're just like, well, he's gonna end the world, I went, Okay,
Speaker 3: like this is just a Bond movie.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I thought it'd be a little bit more than that.
Speaker 3: But that's where I still really enjoy it. But I
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 1: Some disappointing faults that will never change on a second viewing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I actually think part of that too, is
Speaker 2: just the way they set it up. They set it
Speaker 2: up so that the villain needs like these nine hore
Speaker 2: cruxes essentially, like he needs naing this Stony has all
Speaker 2: of them, he can blow up the world. But then
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, but he already has eight of them, guys,
Speaker 2: get stoked. He already he's getting the last one and
Speaker 2: it's supposed to add suspense, but it just felt really weak,
Speaker 2: like that felt like, you know, screenwriters first time on
Speaker 2: the job or something that didn't feel like a Christopher
Speaker 2: Nolan thing. It just seemed a bit lazy to me.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's even just my problem with the
Speaker 1: very beginning movie. I feel like the first thirty minutes
Speaker 1: we're dropped in a world that we don't know.
Speaker 3: And that's where it's like, if you look at the
Speaker 3: beginning of this movie versus the beginning, the inception that happens,
Speaker 3: but then slowly they peel back the oh, this is
Speaker 3: what's going on. Where I feel like, one with Tenet
Speaker 3: they do that a lot slower, and two my problem
Speaker 3: is they throw a lot at you. Like every time
Speaker 3: Day Washington meets a new character, there's tons of exposition
Speaker 3: and they're talking about so many different characters. Like when
Speaker 3: we meet Michael Kine, he goes on like two different
Speaker 3: rants about like this person is the Dutchess sister, whose
Speaker 3: cousin is this. It's like, I don't need to know
Speaker 3: all these details, but they're just you because it's Nolan,
Speaker 3: you think I need to know them all because it's
Speaker 3: all gonna be important, but sometimes they're not. It's just
Speaker 3: little character details that I didn't think really fleshed them
Speaker 3: out too much.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I agree with that. I feel like there
Speaker 2: was some potential villains that were like set up in
Speaker 2: the opening of the movie that you never really hear
Speaker 2: from again, and then I didn't even really feel like, uh,
Speaker 2: what is the guy's name. I'm gonna try and find
Speaker 2: it quick.
Speaker 1: The main villain, cath Brona.
Speaker 3: I don't know the villain's name, but yeah, the guy
Speaker 3: he's like he directed Thor.
Speaker 1: And he was in uh yeah.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 3: It well almost something they said ziito and I was like,
Speaker 3: is this connection to Yeah, I'm like, is this actually
Speaker 3: like I have for five minutes like, oh, this is
Speaker 3: the big twist. It is connected the inception. I was
Speaker 3: gonna really excited and that's like, oh no, this guy
Speaker 3: just has the same but it's with an R at
Speaker 3: the end. Okay, Yeah, yeah, another spoilers. Is there something
Speaker 3: you want to shut as far as we're talking about
Speaker 3: a guinst cons right now, but anything particularly that you
Speaker 3: wanted to really get off your chest from last night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing in particular.
Speaker 4: So this and this is kind of like a con
Speaker 4: and I told you this offcast yesterday. So at the
Speaker 4: intro of the film, I had thought they would retouch
Speaker 4: upon the fact that when the protagonist encounters that first
Speaker 4: inverted person, when the or the inverted gunshot goes back,
Speaker 4: and then I thought they would touch upon that later on.
Speaker 4: But all that's clarified with that as a woman says,
Speaker 4: you're lucky you didn't take an inverted bullet or whatever,
Speaker 4: and I thought, wow, that's.
Speaker 1: Really all they're leaving.
Speaker 4: I thought they would fall back to the intro because
Speaker 4: the beginning had that. It also had him knowing exactly
Speaker 4: where to go to find one of the devices for
Speaker 4: the destruction of the world, one of the pieces of
Speaker 4: the horse crux. So I don't understand how what was
Speaker 4: his because as I told you, there were four teams
Speaker 4: that were involved in that opera house. There were the terrorists,
Speaker 4: there was the tenant man him whatever doing doing gunshots.
Speaker 4: There was the protagonist part of his undercover team, and
Speaker 4: then there was the main swat team that was in
Speaker 4: there that was I guess popping bombs off to the bombs.
Speaker 4: There were so many teams, so I don't know what
Speaker 4: the goal was and apparently. I think Cyto or Cito
Speaker 4: from what I read afterwards, I think he was a
Speaker 4: part of that and somehow, but we don't learn that
Speaker 4: he is.
Speaker 1: Well he was though, because well he was, because remember
Speaker 1: that's how they meet.
Speaker 3: He brings up the opera, so that's how we learn
Speaker 3: he is connected to that somehow, But I.
Speaker 1: Don't remember him being in the opera seit.
Speaker 3: Well, no, I think he's just the guy that is
Speaker 3: the he he's organizing it.
Speaker 1: It's his. So whoever some bad guys are, they're his
Speaker 1: bad guys.
Speaker 3: So that's what I think it is, is that he's
Speaker 3: the red skull to the hydressaying go do this.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I think they're supposed to do.
Speaker 4: Okay, then that's my That's one of my cons is
Speaker 4: they don't cover how the protagonists knew to find one
Speaker 4: of the devices hanging in that coat rack of a
Speaker 4: thousand coats?
Speaker 1: So why was he looking for it when he went
Speaker 1: They cover that part.
Speaker 3: That guy that they go to say if he tells
Speaker 3: them the number of the co rats, I'm the same
Speaker 3: thing with you. I don't know what happened to that
Speaker 3: inverted guy who almost shot him.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was just that one was just by luck
Speaker 1: that there was another invert person doing something else not
Speaker 1: involved with him, which is you know, because everything else
Speaker 1: after that point has shown like oh it was Robert
Speaker 1: passing or him the whole time, right, But I think
Speaker 1: the co.
Speaker 3: Check was that guy whoever their mole was. He did
Speaker 3: tell them the number and where to go, so.
Speaker 1: He was a part of the inverted sea thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that was something that was kind of just
Speaker 2: confusing to me across the movie, like I didn't really
Speaker 2: know who we were up against or like who was
Speaker 2: on what faction, Like particularly the end the end of
Speaker 2: the movie when we're at like that kind of corry
Speaker 2: area like the Sandy you know, like the last final
Speaker 2: big battle. I have no idea what was going on there,
Speaker 2: Like who were they against. I didn't see, Like there's
Speaker 2: the one like Russian dude who ends up going down
Speaker 2: and he's like going to the container that has all
Speaker 2: the horse cruxes. But now there that I didn't see
Speaker 2: a single like quote unquote bad guy, no idea who
Speaker 2: they were fighting. I didn't know if they were like
Speaker 2: if it was supposed to be that the Red Team
Speaker 2: versus the Blue Team, which wouldn't make any sense. So
Speaker 2: I just had no idea what they were blowing up,
Speaker 2: who they were shooting at. It didn't really make any
Speaker 2: sense to me. Did you guys see that scene differently
Speaker 2: than me?
Speaker 1: I took it. I don't think it's explained well.
Speaker 3: I think that's where it's like James BONDI as far
Speaker 3: as these are just goons, but I took it as
Speaker 3: Sito's these are a bunch of goons he's hired to
Speaker 3: protect his investment in this ball.
Speaker 1: That's all that. The movie didn't really tell me that,
Speaker 1: but I just assumed it is a big Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: They all had the exact everybody had the exact same
Speaker 1: attire in this movie, you know, the red, the blue,
Speaker 1: and then the like it was like the white blue
Speaker 1: camo instead. But that's what I took them as.
Speaker 3: They were just goons that were there hired to protect it,
Speaker 3: you know, to die for anything.
Speaker 1: Which that's a scene.
Speaker 3: That I love, like like cinematically, but that's a scene
Speaker 3: where I need the four YouTube videos showing me all
Speaker 3: the different timelines at the same time, because I thought
Speaker 3: it was a cool effect. But there was a time
Speaker 3: where like the building blew up three times, I was
Speaker 3: kind of like I was getting a little lost. I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm trying to play It's like, okay, who
Speaker 3: shot first? How do they do this? Like it just
Speaker 3: feels at some point and I'm sure, I'm sure there's
Speaker 3: a way it's gonna be broken down, but it was
Speaker 3: just like so much time travel on time travel, on
Speaker 3: time travel. I was lost where I feel like the
Speaker 3: inception the dream within a dream within a dream that
Speaker 3: can get confluted, confusing, but eventually it works in your head.
Speaker 3: And they did that good thing in that where they'd
Speaker 3: show like we talked about that where it shows all
Speaker 3: like the montages of people getting ready for the kicks
Speaker 3: or something slowed down with this, I don't feel that's
Speaker 3: the same way exposition.
Speaker 1: I feel like it was not.
Speaker 3: It could have taken a little like another once over,
Speaker 3: like how could we make this a bit tighter or
Speaker 3: how could we make this bit clear? And I feel
Speaker 3: like that's what this movie. One of the things that
Speaker 3: was missing was for that stuff to be clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think that the inception comparisons be different
Speaker 2: because at least when when you're in those scenes where
Speaker 2: it's cutting between everyone getting pumped out with a kick
Speaker 2: you actually you know who they all are at that point,
Speaker 2: whereas in this movie, like even Robert Pattison, he's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you know a what about him, but still
Speaker 2: there's this like essence of mystery to him that isn't
Speaker 2: revealed until like literally the last scene, and then he's
Speaker 2: gone and then it's something else. And that's kind of
Speaker 2: the case for like everyone, even your main the protagonist,
Speaker 2: you learn at the end he did like so much
Speaker 2: more that is never really on screen. That kind of
Speaker 2: felt like a half assed ending to me. I have
Speaker 2: like a few questions. I don't know if I kind
Speaker 2: of want to throw them at you guys and see
Speaker 2: if you have answers, just so I can help understand
Speaker 2: a little bit more of this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my only thing I'll touch on the protagonist before
Speaker 3: we go, because that was a con of mine. I
Speaker 3: couldn't say last night that I he to me, that
Speaker 3: was my thing of when we did the Inception retro
Speaker 3: and I read that quote about how when Leo and
Speaker 3: Nolan met, Leo like sat down Nolan and Nolan said
Speaker 3: that he really attributed him for making it more of
Speaker 3: a character story than a plot story. It was less
Speaker 3: about the world that was more about Cobb trying to
Speaker 3: achieve this goal. That's what I feel like this, And
Speaker 3: there's differences, but I feel like inception could have been
Speaker 3: out that without that, maybe that story is not that real.
Speaker 1: It's maybe it's a little.
Speaker 3: Heightened, but that's what that feel like, where the protagonist
Speaker 3: is just the protagonist and there's not much to him.
Speaker 1: I like the acting. I think he did a good job.
Speaker 3: He has some I like the like comedic stuff he
Speaker 3: had in the restaurant of all I take that to
Speaker 3: go and stuff like that. Oh he didn't know I
Speaker 3: liked all that stuff.
Speaker 2: He was just like way too dad joking. It felt
Speaker 2: like I don't know none of it. It just felt
Speaker 2: like very like cliche, like kind of generic dialogue for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, that was my thing of like his
Speaker 3: connection was her, but and then again that's another bon trope.
Speaker 3: He falls in love right away, but I just I
Speaker 3: didn't connect. I think Elizabeth de Becky's like the heart
Speaker 3: of this film, and that works. But I just feel
Speaker 3: that every other lead, for the most part, in old movies,
Speaker 3: even prestige when it's like these guys are awful, but
Speaker 3: they're really driven by something he's just driven by like, oh,
Speaker 3: I gotta save the country, which works. That's fine, but
Speaker 3: I guess I was always expecting more because I always
Speaker 3: feel his protagonists do have a little bit more. There's
Speaker 3: that little empt to get me personally invested, and I
Speaker 3: didn't find that with this guy. Where that's why we pass.
Speaker 3: And like he said, he is mysterious. But then when
Speaker 3: I learn about everything he did at the end, that
Speaker 3: does excite me to watch again, to feel like okay,
Speaker 3: because clearly, like when they have that meeting at the
Speaker 3: beginning and he's like, oh, you'll take a diet coke
Speaker 3: and he's like, I don't like diet cokey, He's like, yes,
Speaker 3: you do. So to find more little things like that
Speaker 3: I think will be fun. So that's why I passed
Speaker 3: this character. I kind of I made the comparison inception
Speaker 3: where Arthur was the cool one and Dom had the
Speaker 3: character like personality. It's weird that the main character was
Speaker 3: the cool like trying to be the cool one and
Speaker 3: the side character was the guy that had a bit
Speaker 3: more emotionality to it. So that's why I didn't connect
Speaker 3: with the main I even though I liked all the acting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feel like I'm already forget her
Speaker 2: name to Becky's character Cat, I'm kind of for like.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like she was the only one
Speaker 2: that I knew who she was from start to finish. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I actually know, like like her character backstory, and
Speaker 2: I mean it's like a simple She's a simple character,
Speaker 2: so it makes sense. I kind of feel like she
Speaker 2: was the only one that I really understand at this
Speaker 2: point who I didn't feel like there was scenes missing
Speaker 2: that would have helped me fill in some blanks or something.
Speaker 3: Even though before your questions, do you feel because Emi
Speaker 3: explained a bit more to me last night, so I
Speaker 3: do understand it more. But I feel like the husband
Speaker 3: and that whole painting was one of the most convoluted
Speaker 3: things ever.
Speaker 2: That was my first question, what is that painting? I
Speaker 2: don't get it?
Speaker 3: So I guess Emily bro down to me that like
Speaker 3: she thought it was real, so she told her husband
Speaker 3: he bought it, they found it was a fake, and
Speaker 3: to like hold it over her head, he would reveal
Speaker 3: that it would be fake, so it would like ruin
Speaker 3: her entire career if people found out it was fake.
Speaker 3: But then she wished that she found out it was
Speaker 3: fake because she could have like used it to betray
Speaker 3: him and make him look bad or something like that.
Speaker 1: I My whole thing is this guy's a weapon stealer.
Speaker 3: All he needed to just say is like, you're gonna
Speaker 3: stick with me or I'm gonna kill you.
Speaker 1: That's it. That character in this villain, he's not that
Speaker 1: level of a thing.
Speaker 3: That's why I love with Keath Brown and give some
Speaker 3: interview He's like, well, I guess I'm the villain of
Speaker 3: the movie. It's like you so are You're just you're
Speaker 3: not like a fan of so you don't have that
Speaker 3: redeeming qualities.
Speaker 1: You don't have. He just wants to end the world
Speaker 1: because he's selfish. Other than he says like, oh.
Speaker 3: The people in the future have told me we ruin
Speaker 3: the planet, but they've posed that, oh we could change
Speaker 3: the future, so that could change. So to me, he's
Speaker 3: already a really just really really bad character. To give
Speaker 3: this whole painting thing, I thought was one of the
Speaker 3: most conflute things I've seen in a movie for a
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 2: Well, so, yeah, I guess My question along with that then,
Speaker 2: is like they do that whole heist just to get
Speaker 2: that painting like, why do they do that? Why does
Speaker 2: that have to happen?
Speaker 3: So she won't introduce the protagonists without knowing she's safe.
Speaker 1: So if they get the painting, she says.
Speaker 2: That, like the most overcomplicated plan of all time. The
Speaker 2: only way you can possibly build trust with this woman
Speaker 2: is to like do this crazy heist that you might
Speaker 2: die for, Like, I don't know. That just seems a
Speaker 2: little bit too much to me.
Speaker 4: It was like two words of one stone though, because yeah,
Speaker 4: the painting was obviously this little like side story that
Speaker 4: they pursued, but it was really to introduce the fact
Speaker 4: that there is another like inverted machine, right that that
Speaker 4: would play a part in later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I yeah, for a storytelling reason, that's
Speaker 3: what I don't think it makes sense here, But for
Speaker 3: Nolan to be like, we gotta put this machine here
Speaker 3: so they could do the switch later on in the movie,
Speaker 3: I guess so. But from a story standpoint, it also
Speaker 3: sucks because later on Kenth Brown is like, here, I
Speaker 3: have the painting and nothing happened, Like there's no consequences
Speaker 3: for her. He knows, well, he at least insinuates that
Speaker 3: he knows she tried to get this painting stolen. He
Speaker 3: doesn't punish her like he goes to obviously the beat
Speaker 3: her up and everything like that, but he makes it
Speaker 3: sound like if she tries to get this pain, he's
Speaker 3: gonna kill her. That doesn't happen, So I, yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't mind the heist thing because I feel like that's
Speaker 3: kind of a highest trope of like, Okay, you gotta
Speaker 3: pull up this really thing because she's I guess, the
Speaker 3: only way he can get to Keath Browna, right, there's
Speaker 3: no other way for the protagonists to get to her,
Speaker 3: so they have to this painting.
Speaker 1: Do I think it was the most well done? No?
Speaker 1: I don't, but I I get what they're going for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's here's another question for you. So when protagonist
Speaker 2: meets uh Kat and Satou, they or like when he's
Speaker 2: kind of built some trust with him, I guess they
Speaker 2: decide to go on like these flying boat things which
Speaker 2: are like cool looking, Like what what is the purpose
Speaker 2: of that boat scene? I couldn't hear like anything there
Speaker 2: were saying because it was so loud. Well, they were
Speaker 2: just talking business, right, Yeah, Well, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: isn't it isn't that also not just like super overcomplicated
Speaker 2: for no reason.
Speaker 1: So again I hate like I sound like.
Speaker 2: Thing, we need to go on this boat like right now,
Speaker 2: I sound like that's the worst place ever to have
Speaker 2: a conversation, especially with someone that you don't trust at all,
Speaker 2: in an environment where he did get knocked off the
Speaker 2: boat and he would not have been saved like that
Speaker 2: just doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 1: Well even for me.
Speaker 3: The protagonist multiple times has his back fully turned to
Speaker 3: Keith Brana, so it's like he could just take you
Speaker 3: out in a in a split second. So again I
Speaker 3: sound like a broken record. But that is a bond
Speaker 3: trip where Bond will meet the girl she meets like
Speaker 3: the evil businessman, and then they go on some like
Speaker 3: expedition together and Bond and it's like sometimes skiing or
Speaker 3: like a game of poker like you'll see and even
Speaker 3: Casina Royale. So I think that's what he was trying
Speaker 3: to do. But yeah, I that scene and when he
Speaker 3: learned about Tenant, I'm like, why do we need to
Speaker 3: put these on boats? It was I heard a few
Speaker 3: lines in that that discussion and that was it. I
Speaker 3: I didn't hear what she said before she knocked her
Speaker 3: husband off. I didn't hear because he literally says, like,
Speaker 3: what do you need with the plutonium or what.
Speaker 4: Was the pluridium plutonium?
Speaker 3: He's like, what do you want the plutonium? And then
Speaker 3: John Nason tells him. But I didn't hear a single
Speaker 3: thing of what you want to do with it because
Speaker 3: it was so loud.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't understand.
Speaker 3: This is a movie that I think I will at
Speaker 3: least like better when I have subtitles, but yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: I think that was I don't know why he's been
Speaker 3: obsessed with it since Dark Knight Rises, but the sound
Speaker 3: mixing in some of his movies. They need someone needs
Speaker 3: to tell him that. I get what he's going for,
Speaker 3: but it's it hurts. It hurts the actual movie in
Speaker 3: my opinion on a for viewing at least m.
Speaker 2: M, yeah, I agree, what what did you feel? Kind
Speaker 2: of the same on that particular boat scene.
Speaker 4: I'm I have all the scenes like I feel like that.
Speaker 4: Definitely the audio wasn't super loud at that moment for
Speaker 4: me because like they when I couldn't understand what they're
Speaker 4: saying before when they put the headphones on, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I can kind of hear now, as that works.
Speaker 1: But I love the scene. I thought it was super cool.
Speaker 4: I just kind of rolled with it because I thought,
Speaker 4: you know, this guy is like fucking loaded at it,
Speaker 4: oh ye with cash. So if he wants to talk
Speaker 4: business on his flying boat, I mean, golf, all the
Speaker 4: power to you.
Speaker 1: I mean, why not.
Speaker 4: It's very like intimidating, like And this is if this
Speaker 4: was at before the dinner scene where he says, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna put your balls in your throat and watch you
Speaker 4: pull your balls out.
Speaker 1: Then I'd be a little skeptical.
Speaker 4: But the fact that he says that and then goes
Speaker 4: to the boat, I was kind of prepared for it
Speaker 4: because this to do anything.
Speaker 2: Was that supposed to be funny? Like when he said that.
Speaker 1: I don't think I wasn't laughing. I think it was
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Were you laughing?
Speaker 2: I don't think I really laughed like much at all. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: Like like I said, humor didn't really uh land for
Speaker 2: me in general.
Speaker 1: What about the guy's body when they at the end,
Speaker 1: when they were dragging the guy's body in the water,
Speaker 1: did you laugh there?
Speaker 2: I did a bit. I guess it was more like
Speaker 2: a cringe, like, oh my god, that was a brutal
Speaker 2: shot that was like Nolan's like, hey, we need a
Speaker 2: stun guy who's willing to do this or something. Look,
Speaker 2: real man, here's here's a big question that, uh, how
Speaker 2: does how does the time and the manipulation even work?
Speaker 1: I just doesn't.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: Give me like the elevator pitch of like how this
Speaker 2: is supposed to make sense?
Speaker 4: You go, yeah, okay, So from from my knowledge there
Speaker 4: is there's two parallels. Basically, when you go into one
Speaker 4: of these inverted machines and you come out the other end,
Speaker 4: you can see your old self basically like rewinding as
Speaker 4: you're progressing forwards. But then the version of you progressing
Speaker 4: forwards is progressing forwards into the past, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And you can see the person that's going forward and
Speaker 1: see the other version.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So when you you don't want to get like
Speaker 4: close in contact with yourself, like as you're progressing forwards
Speaker 4: into the past, but then when you invert yourself and
Speaker 4: come out from the past, then you're progressing forwards through
Speaker 4: time again, but from a previous point in time. So
Speaker 4: it's a form of time travel through inversion. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: the best way, because this I need multiple things. I've
Speaker 4: tried to not almost listen to their rules and look
Speaker 4: at us just time travel as far as it's fun
Speaker 4: the whole like you're inverting mean backwards. But I just
Speaker 4: take it as like, Okay, they need to go back
Speaker 4: to a certain point and to time travel, they got
Speaker 4: to literally go through the motion. It's not like an
Speaker 4: end game where it's like we could just jump from
Speaker 4: point A to point B.
Speaker 3: You literally have to walk to point A point B,
Speaker 3: and while you're walking you'll leave traces of yourself that
Speaker 3: the past will be able to see while you're going forward.
Speaker 3: So I think where it really got that's where again
Speaker 3: at the ending I need to see because you literally
Speaker 3: have Robert Passon in like four different timelines because he's
Speaker 3: like in the Blue team, he's with John David Washington,
Speaker 3: and then he's with when he goes back, and then
Speaker 3: he's with another timeline when he goes back to get
Speaker 3: himself killed. He's in four separate timelines at once, and
Speaker 3: John Day's Washington says them like, how is that possible?
Speaker 3: And he just kind of says like oh, like he
Speaker 3: says some line about anything being possible. It's like, okay,
Speaker 3: so it's just like travel malarkey. But I yeah, I
Speaker 3: think Taylor is Taylor explained it I vision that way.
Speaker 3: He explained it better than I could have. I still
Speaker 3: don't think they explained it the greatest. Multiple times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I there's particular points that confused me, like when
Speaker 2: that scene where there's kind of like the red and
Speaker 2: blue glass and there's he's kind of uh sight tours,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, trying to kill a cat or
Speaker 2: whatever is going on there. Like it was a cool
Speaker 2: scene in theory, but just because none of it made
Speaker 2: sense to me, I didn't really like it that much,
Speaker 2: I guess. But then there was at one point there
Speaker 2: where there was like four of him, like he had
Speaker 2: like four versions of himself, like all that room.
Speaker 1: In that scene there was just there was just a
Speaker 1: two versions.
Speaker 4: So when you see cat get shot at the inverted
Speaker 4: bullet that hadn't happened yet, that was in that was
Speaker 4: her getting shot in the future. So the present one
Speaker 4: he was basically feeding himself information from his future self.
Speaker 4: So when he was interrogating the protagonist, he was feeding
Speaker 4: that information back and forth to his future self.
Speaker 1: So that he could go and obviously do what he
Speaker 1: had to do. It's very weird.
Speaker 2: And so what's the deal with the mask? Like are
Speaker 2: they take like breathing in like a plutonium or something.
Speaker 4: It's like reverse oxygen, you could you could imagine, right,
Speaker 4: So like everything is reverse, so that includes what you're
Speaker 4: trying to breathe in.
Speaker 1: That's how I took it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I took it too, because they give
Speaker 3: the explanation about like fire and heat becomes ice and
Speaker 3: they said some other things. So that's how I took
Speaker 3: it as almost like the air would leave your body
Speaker 3: if you just don't have this mask.
Speaker 1: So that's what that's for. That's how I took it.
Speaker 2: Okay, And then so for things that are going in reverse,
Speaker 2: is like, how does like if you're going in reverse
Speaker 2: but not everything's in reverse? How does that?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: There was one point kind of near the end of
Speaker 2: the movie when he's like when protagonist is on some
Speaker 2: giant like tanker ship and the things like going backwards,
Speaker 2: and I didn't really understand, like, is everything's supposed to
Speaker 2: be going backwards? Is it because there's someone inverted who's
Speaker 2: controlling that ship? Like I don't know, I don't get that.
Speaker 4: That's because they went through the inversion machine and everything
Speaker 4: was just naturally going backwards because they.
Speaker 2: Were going through backwards, right, Like, it's just some things
Speaker 2: go backwards.
Speaker 4: No, I'm pretty sure it's everything in the world because
Speaker 4: it if you're in the current timeline and the present time,
Speaker 4: the things that go backwards are like inverted objects that
Speaker 4: have been brought over from the inversion realm basically, but
Speaker 4: they went That's why they were wearing the masks, because they
Speaker 4: went into the inverted realm and they were traveling and
Speaker 4: traversing back to a previous part in time to try
Speaker 4: because that was when they were trying to go and
Speaker 4: plan accordingly to go and like hit side to a
Speaker 4: ship or whatever and like delay him from killing himself
Speaker 4: and all that. So they had to go back to
Speaker 4: that moment because they knew the dates. So they had
Speaker 4: to go back to that moment because they knew he
Speaker 4: was revisiting that moment before he killed himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that I'd have to watch, like it worked
Speaker 2: for you, because it sounds so simple when you say it,
Speaker 2: but like it doesn't work for me at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I I'd have to watch again and see
Speaker 3: if everything was, but yeah, that's how I took it
Speaker 3: as far as like we got to get to Tuesday,
Speaker 3: but we're on Friday, so we literally got to live
Speaker 3: in the inverted world like kind of it's going backwards
Speaker 3: in a sense. So that's why it's like we got
Speaker 3: to sleep here that little tank. Obviously, that's where would
Speaker 3: throw me off sometimes because lots of time they didn't
Speaker 3: have the mask off. But clearly I guess that there's
Speaker 3: certain areas that they can go into that it's already
Speaker 3: oxygen for them or put out there. So I think
Speaker 3: I'm picking up lots of tay Is putting down. But
Speaker 3: I think again, I have to see it again. I
Speaker 3: got that more talking to you and then thinking about
Speaker 3: it a whole night again. In the movie, I still
Speaker 3: feel like there's so much going on that That's why
Speaker 3: I said the non sports. I feel like I'm thinking
Speaker 3: about the past scene, but then I'm getting new.
Speaker 1: Information in this scene.
Speaker 3: So it's hard for me really to keep up because
Speaker 3: I just think sometimes they just needed some I think
Speaker 3: sometimes they just need some cool down moments, you know.
Speaker 3: I think that's why I like some of those moments,
Speaker 3: even though there's exposition and with Michael Caine and the
Speaker 3: humor and stuff like that, because it was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we're not getting so much info, but it like every
Speaker 3: scene was info info, info dump, like just so much
Speaker 3: of it that I think that's what I will.
Speaker 1: If I can.
Speaker 3: I feel like each watch now I need to like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna specifically focus on the time travel aspect, none
Speaker 3: of the characters.
Speaker 1: Just watch it for that.
Speaker 3: And again I feel like it's not too smooth, But
Speaker 3: you know, I think Taylor's explain it well, not like
Speaker 3: I get the general concept of it.
Speaker 4: I think I think, well, it's funny that you mentioned
Speaker 4: like watching it just to ignore like the character's point
Speaker 4: of your perspective and just focusing on the time travel part.
Speaker 1: Because that's that's my goal.
Speaker 4: I want to rewatch it, and I want to hone
Speaker 4: in on everyone wearing masks and then figure out, Okay,
Speaker 4: so these people are obviously inverted at these point points
Speaker 4: of time and that leads to other scenarios and such.
Speaker 4: So I mean, that's my goal for a second watching,
Speaker 4: because there are a lot of characters that had gas
Speaker 4: masks in our present timeline.
Speaker 2: M hmm, here's another. Uh. I just got tons of
Speaker 2: questions for you. Yeah, what was I can't remember her name?
Speaker 2: The Indian woman who comes up a few times and
Speaker 2: he goes to for information or like that's like that
Speaker 2: first big heist thing when they're like zipping up the
Speaker 2: side of the building and he ends up talking to
Speaker 2: her a couple of times. What is her like story.
Speaker 3: A person like Rob Pass and that he's recruited in
Speaker 3: the future to help him dish out missions. But then
Speaker 3: old thing with Elizabeth, the biggie as she goes against
Speaker 3: whatever he says, like not that he would have said, like,
Speaker 3: don't kill this one, but I think she just thought
Speaker 3: in her mind she was expendable, even though his present
Speaker 3: day did say, hey, like you have to promise this
Speaker 3: woman and the child are gonna be safe, and she
Speaker 3: promises that. So I think what he realizes that he
Speaker 3: is the protagonist ra Pass, and he realized that he
Speaker 3: might be He might be we learned this off screen,
Speaker 3: but he he for sure is the guy giving her
Speaker 3: info from the future, because they talk about that kind
Speaker 3: Brown's character that he's getting not only just invert objects,
Speaker 3: but just pieces of information from people in the future
Speaker 3: trying to help him out and help their cause. So
Speaker 3: I think he's one of those people, but he's on
Speaker 3: the good side, and she's just kind of like not
Speaker 3: a rogue agent, but just kind of in it for herself.
Speaker 3: So when he found out she was going to do that,
Speaker 3: he kills her. So I guess at some point in
Speaker 3: the future again he sends word down to a younger
Speaker 3: version of her help him out, and then he just
Speaker 3: knows that, you know, you're like, at one point he's
Speaker 3: going to have to kill her. It's what It's kind
Speaker 3: of like the same thing that Rob Passing Time trial
Speaker 3: that I like, but it's that thing of like, this
Speaker 3: is the end of my friendship with you, but it's
Speaker 3: the beginning of yours.
Speaker 1: So it's like this whole loop thing.
Speaker 3: Where I think eventually you get it on the Charlie Day,
Speaker 3: you know, always sunny map. I think some of it
Speaker 3: or most of it will make sense, but I think
Speaker 3: in the film I'll jumble it gets a little confusion.
Speaker 1: But that's what I took.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you talk to someone who's inverted? Like is that?
Speaker 2: Can you have a conversation with someone who's inverted and
Speaker 2: you're not inverted?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No.
Speaker 3: I think that's you'd have to, because was that what
Speaker 3: they're doing one point, recording conversations and playing them backwards.
Speaker 1: Is that what they are doing.
Speaker 3: That's what I thought a few times, that they had
Speaker 3: recorded them and played them backwards. I could have been wrong,
Speaker 3: but there's just multiple recordings happen hm hmm. And because
Speaker 3: and like he they do that, and that because Dave
Speaker 3: Washington and Capron have a conversation, right, but we get
Speaker 3: that thing where it's like they talk and then like
Speaker 3: changes the audio around for them.
Speaker 1: So maybe you just need a machine like that, like
Speaker 1: a gateway. That's what I think.
Speaker 3: Maybe you can, but you couldn't, like if I think
Speaker 3: if you're if there's no machinery, if you're inverted and
Speaker 3: the other person onvert, you couldn't talk them or you
Speaker 3: couldn't understand them at least mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I guess I was. I'm wondering why why
Speaker 2: we never got a scene where uh protagonist is like
Speaker 2: talking to himself or you have some moment at the
Speaker 2: end of the movie where he connects with that other
Speaker 2: version of himself. We'd like done all this other stuff
Speaker 2: in the future, but I guess maybe that hadn't happened yet.
Speaker 1: Or something, but well they can't write. They like the
Speaker 1: fact that they fought, I guess is a whole other scenario.
Speaker 4: But they the rule was like, if you get into
Speaker 4: super close proximity to yourself, like the particles of your
Speaker 4: body will like start to like combust or something and know,
Speaker 4: like be very devastating.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't catch that. So why didn't happen when
Speaker 2: he's fighting himself for like five minutes straight.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking maybe because it wasn't like ske on skin
Speaker 4: contact or he had the mask on or something. Because
Speaker 4: Aaron Taylor Johnson when they were walking out into the
Speaker 4: inverted area with the cat after when she was shot
Speaker 4: the Aaron Taylor Johnson looks at the lady and is
Speaker 4: like give him the rundown. She's like, don't come in
Speaker 4: contact with your former self and this YadA, YadA YadA,
Speaker 4: because this will happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I caught that.
Speaker 3: I didn't remember the whole like your Adams and whatnot exploding,
Speaker 3: but I did say, like I did hear that, don't
Speaker 3: come contact yourself.
Speaker 1: Did John Daby Washington get stabbed in his arm? Is
Speaker 1: that why he was bleeding at one point?
Speaker 4: Well, it was a bullet wound, right, because but I
Speaker 4: don't know when that connected because he he noticed like
Speaker 4: his arm started to hurt more, and then he noticed
Speaker 4: the hole in his jacket and then it started to bleed.
Speaker 4: But there was no build up point to when that
Speaker 4: happened when he got shot. The only time I thought
Speaker 4: that he got shot was did he shoot himself in
Speaker 4: the airport scene?
Speaker 1: That's what I think, because I didn't we didn't see
Speaker 1: a gunshot going well, we didn't see well, not a gunshot.
Speaker 3: But I thought, well, maybe was it that time when
Speaker 3: the he did like the rounds on the glass or
Speaker 3: was like the boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 4: But he his former his old self was in the
Speaker 4: trajectory of the bullet, right, and the protagonists and Inverted's
Speaker 4: form was the one shooting the gunshots, so he wouldn't
Speaker 4: have been able to hit his arm because.
Speaker 1: He Yeah, I think so. I think you're right. My
Speaker 1: question is in that scene, the.
Speaker 2: One on the other side of the glass who was running,
Speaker 2: is that what you're talking about or do you mean
Speaker 2: like earlier in that scene when they were just like
Speaker 2: fist fighting and he shot him when they were just
Speaker 2: in the hallway or something.
Speaker 4: Well, he was in both those settings, right, Like he
Speaker 4: when he was like trying to his inverted self was
Speaker 4: trying to get into that machine when in reality he
Speaker 4: was actually going away from it in the current timeline.
Speaker 4: So he he was going he was shooting the gun off,
Speaker 4: and he went into the inverted machine and then he
Speaker 4: went out to their side where Robert Patterson's character was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that version of him didn't get shot. It
Speaker 2: was the non inverted version from earlier in the movie.
Speaker 1: Well, we don't.
Speaker 4: We don't know exactly because we don't see the non
Speaker 4: inverted version actually get shot. It just starts going backwards
Speaker 4: because you know, when you're in the when you're in
Speaker 4: that scenario, you start to feel the pain of something happening,
Speaker 4: or you see the crack in the glass because it
Speaker 4: hasn't happened yet, and then it proceeds to happen. So
Speaker 4: for the protagonist, his arms started to bruise and then
Speaker 4: he saw the bullet hole in his shirt and then
Speaker 4: he started to bleed, but it didn't lead to him
Speaker 4: actually getting shot. So to me, that's an left open
Speaker 4: plot hole.
Speaker 3: My question is, so how that scene originally and when
Speaker 3: we first saw it he got sucked up and went
Speaker 3: in the airplane turbine.
Speaker 4: Right, We didn't see him going the turbine. We just
Speaker 4: saw him get sucked. Okay, so maybe that was it.
Speaker 3: I was trying to wonder if what the Deuels that
Speaker 3: was or because at one point, this is near the end,
Speaker 3: and this is because this gets in a whole another worm.
Speaker 3: But like Robert pass and then starts talking about like
Speaker 3: multi universe and multi verse and stuff like that, and
Speaker 3: that sort's like, so in one verse, did he actually
Speaker 3: just die and get sucked the air whatever?
Speaker 1: Her mind? But then passed and kind of was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: go to sleep. We're not gonna talk about this. It
Speaker 1: could just be like unlimited thing and that's what they're
Speaker 1: talking about, like the Grandfather paradox and everything.
Speaker 3: They touch on some things, but they don't dive too
Speaker 3: deep in them. I think I'm glad because there's already
Speaker 3: things that they dive deep enough in that I am
Speaker 3: still questioning.
Speaker 1: But so you think he gotpened and die.
Speaker 4: No, I think that we got to see the other
Speaker 4: end of that, because at that point in time he
Speaker 4: was inverted and he got sucked out through there, and
Speaker 4: then it would have been him working with like Rob
Speaker 4: Patison getting the girl or winding, so that would have
Speaker 4: been he was.
Speaker 1: Just he was actually just jumped.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we got to see that point in time.
Speaker 4: As for him talking about you need the second watch.
Speaker 4: As for you're talking about the multiple dimensions stuff in
Speaker 4: the Grandfather Paradox, he says that, okay, the fact that
Speaker 4: the Grandfather Paradox.
Speaker 1: You know, exists in the sense and that these could
Speaker 1: kill your grandfather and still be a lot that's what Washington,
Speaker 1: he says.
Speaker 4: The people of the future kind of abide by that
Speaker 4: where they don't care. You know, they're they're treating the
Speaker 4: future like garbage because they don't think it changes the past,
Speaker 4: when in reality it does.
Speaker 1: And that's their cause here, because they're leaving the other
Speaker 1: way around. They're treating the past like crap, so because
Speaker 1: it hurts the future, but it is hurting the future. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So again that segues into them like leaving those
Speaker 4: packages and behind for salo or whatever of gold bricks
Speaker 4: and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what happens at the start of movie when he
Speaker 2: like eats that the bullet thing, that's I guess that's
Speaker 2: one of the horre cruxes, right, that little.
Speaker 3: No, that's like a kicker cyanide capsule. So I guess
Speaker 3: what they I didn't like that because I didn't.
Speaker 1: Understand they said it was a test, but it seems
Speaker 1: like that mission wasn't a test, you know, like there
Speaker 1: was other things like that were really happening in them.
Speaker 1: I thought what it was gonna be is that whole
Speaker 1: mission was a test and it was just okay, this
Speaker 1: was just to see if worthy of being a part
Speaker 1: of this group. So okay, this makes sense, But.
Speaker 3: It wasn't because they say, like, oh so and so
Speaker 3: got away with this brick, So it's like it was
Speaker 3: a real mission in your Testingum, so I guess.
Speaker 1: The way they rebuilt his jaw right, Well I know,
Speaker 1: but still like why would why would you be testing
Speaker 1: someone on a real mission that doesn't seem it's real?
Speaker 1: It's real, So I mean just but that's no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get that. Then, like to me, like I
Speaker 1: feel like I tasked.
Speaker 3: He specifically would set up to say like should we
Speaker 3: approve this guy to continue further? Like in this situation,
Speaker 3: what happened was he gone that van and there was
Speaker 3: guys waiting for him and they were his team. But
Speaker 3: like if the mission went, he failed, right, he didn't
Speaker 3: get the thing they wanted right in that mission, or
Speaker 3: I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: They're looking for like the plutonium.
Speaker 2: Civilian civilians died, So from my opinion, they failed.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they especially when they're like, oh, it's just
Speaker 1: the cheap seats.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, but the whole tire fucking stadium would
Speaker 3: fall on them, like like they were knocked up. But
Speaker 3: like either way, like they weren't trying to say, you know,
Speaker 3: their mission was to get the plutonium bricks, right, That's
Speaker 3: what I thought, Or was I wrong?
Speaker 2: What was kind of boat? It's kind of like both, right,
Speaker 2: because you get the bombs he said.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's say the bombs was one, but then
Speaker 3: platonium bricks that didn't happen. Someone gets away with them, right,
Speaker 3: someone we don't know them, or assuming that's Kanth Brown's people.
Speaker 3: But then the thing is so that fails, but then
Speaker 3: his own organization kidnaps him and puts them through like
Speaker 3: a testing process where they pull his teeth everything I
Speaker 3: don't like, and just to see if he doesn't give information.
Speaker 1: That's where I was.
Speaker 2: I guess that part could make sense because the idea
Speaker 2: of that test was to prove that he wouldn't wrap
Speaker 2: them out or like wrat out his other agents on
Speaker 2: the case.
Speaker 3: I guess you could say, so if he was successful
Speaker 3: and they got the plutonium bricks, would he have been tested?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like the test was because this is
Speaker 1: a separate entity altogether kidnapped. Okay, Okay, then okay, then
Speaker 1: I can kind of see that.
Speaker 3: Then I just thought it was a because usually most
Speaker 3: time in all spy throwers, when there's a test, it's
Speaker 3: not anything real is happening. So the fact that there
Speaker 3: was still real stakes, like the lives and his lives happening,
Speaker 3: and then he was gonna being tested upon that, I
Speaker 3: still know how I like that. It does make more sense,
Speaker 3: So I'll give you that, so maybe I'll feel better
Speaker 3: about a second watch. But then, yeah, he bites the pill,
Speaker 3: he like died, but I guess they they saved him
Speaker 3: before death, right they pulled Uh? So this is literally
Speaker 3: out of Scott This is literally out of James Bond
Speaker 3: movie where someone bites a cinide pill and they really
Speaker 3: rebuild his teeth and that's what they did to him.
Speaker 1: Then unless they.
Speaker 4: Just lied, because for all we know they could have
Speaker 4: went back in time and pulled him out before he
Speaker 4: got killed.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I don't know because he said his mouth
Speaker 1: I remember, and he's like, we had to rebuild your teeth.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe, I guess maybe the pill wasn't actually a
Speaker 2: snide pill or like I guess it was like a
Speaker 2: it's something that just knocked him out. And then because
Speaker 2: like his friend, the agent that he was with, was
Speaker 2: like the one who had it or I guess no,
Speaker 2: he had it originally and then he lost it and
Speaker 2: then his friend grabbed it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they do well know the brushing, I took
Speaker 1: it away from it and he's like playing with them,
Speaker 1: and then remember he spat it away.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, his friend grabbed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess not this the pill I guess
Speaker 3: didn't do his teeth. They like physically pulled his teeth out, So,
Speaker 3: which is a brutal, brutal test, you know, so very brutal.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: The one the one story beat that I thought was
Speaker 2: pretty good was at the end when when Kat like
Speaker 2: goes on the boat does the whole thing obviously kicks
Speaker 2: them off and like that way they were talking about,
Speaker 2: and then she jumps off and like sees herself the
Speaker 2: way she slid them me that, yeah, that was funny.
Speaker 2: But when she when she dives off, and then you know,
Speaker 2: you think back earlier in the movie she had the
Speaker 2: line that was like always wanted to be that girl
Speaker 2: or something. That was the one point where like everything,
Speaker 2: well not everything, but that that storyline like fit together
Speaker 2: and clicked for me, And then I feel like that
Speaker 2: was a satisfied ending. Unfortunately it was the only one
Speaker 2: that really had that effect with me, But I think
Speaker 2: it's worth throwing that out there that I did think
Speaker 2: that her storyline, probably because it was the most straightforward
Speaker 2: to me, did make sense and connected, and uh, pretty
Speaker 2: had a pretty satisfying ending.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love that touch because it's that classic time trial
Speaker 3: thing like oh, she was the girl on the boat
Speaker 3: the whole time, you know, and then that chicken the
Speaker 3: egg thing of like, well, if she's on this boat
Speaker 3: or she didn't time trail, has this happened? So I
Speaker 3: liked all that. Yeah, I think she had the most
Speaker 3: satisfying ending. I think they almost know that because like
Speaker 3: all Washington saves her, but the movie ends on her
Speaker 3: and her son, right, Like that's the ending point of
Speaker 3: the movie is yeah, her gram her hand and then
Speaker 3: walking down the street.
Speaker 1: So I feel like they knew that. I felt conclusion
Speaker 1: with Passes character. There's still so much mystery, but I
Speaker 1: thought that as like he is almost just he's just
Speaker 1: a soldier of war and his design purposes.
Speaker 3: Literally he knows, yeah, he knows his day of death right,
Speaker 3: and his goal is just you have to literally save
Speaker 3: the world. I've bought in that more than washington'scause the
Speaker 3: thing is when Washington has that realization, it's gonna be
Speaker 3: after the movie. He still is gonna save the world,
Speaker 3: but like what he's going to go on to do.
Speaker 3: All this stuff is coming down later on. Technically it's
Speaker 3: already happened. But with Passions, we didn't see everything. But
Speaker 3: when they did a little flashbacks, Like I love the
Speaker 3: acting in his face when he was running down that
Speaker 3: hall after they did the invert and he takes off
Speaker 3: the hood and it's Washington's face. I love, like just
Speaker 3: his face of just like kind of horror but completely
Speaker 3: understanding what's going on. He wasn't expecting that, but he
Speaker 3: just throws a mask and just like go go, And
Speaker 3: I love all that stuff and I love that that
Speaker 3: was called back because that was my first sign of Okay,
Speaker 3: something's going on with the scene. One that fight scene
Speaker 3: I thought was great of seeing it both ways at
Speaker 3: one point when the guy like gives him a judo throw,
Speaker 3: but when you see it the first times, like him
Speaker 3: doing like a weird flip. I loved all the actual
Speaker 3: fighting of the like the inverted versity avert and then
Speaker 3: seeing both versions and rhymy lot of the Joe Squareen
Speaker 3: Levitt like Hallwait scene. So I liked all that, And
Speaker 3: then I liked too that when he passed and did
Speaker 3: run after him and he pulled that mask off, they
Speaker 3: cut away. I am glad that that was a callback
Speaker 3: because that was my first sign I'm like, Okay, something's
Speaker 3: wrong here with this character.
Speaker 1: Something's out with this character.
Speaker 3: Because back in my mind, I was worried that they
Speaker 3: just didn't show what happened that character and he just
Speaker 3: like took him out and that was it. So I
Speaker 3: liked like that was a very classic like Prestige interception
Speaker 3: and Nolan as far as just like he laid like
Speaker 3: the little bread crumbs, and that's where I feel like
Speaker 3: it's a lot like an interception that way, where it's
Speaker 3: just like all what's there? The only one bread crumb
Speaker 3: I didn't like was I felt like at the very end,
Speaker 3: when they're getting the last like bricks and they're trying
Speaker 3: to stop the explosion, there's that dead guy and then
Speaker 3: like zoo bom in on that backpack. I hated that
Speaker 3: because right away when they zoomed in, I knew, like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's Patison, even though we hadn't seen Passon's backpack yet.
Speaker 3: I feel like they should have done that, Like I
Speaker 3: don't know how, but they should have done him seeing
Speaker 3: the actual backpack of the dead body, maybe even a
Speaker 3: little further than that revealed to me. It just felt
Speaker 3: even in a Nolan sense, it didn't even felt like
Speaker 3: it was they showed the backpack and you could catch it.
Speaker 3: It was I feel like they should have showed the
Speaker 3: backpack from a bit of a wider shot and then
Speaker 3: when they did the soft flashback go back to scene,
Speaker 3: but then close in on it, where when it was
Speaker 3: just a full and close up of this little charm,
Speaker 3: you knew it was going to be passed. And they
Speaker 3: showed the dead body, but they wouldn't show its face.
Speaker 3: He had hair, like Passing. So I loved the resolution
Speaker 3: of Passon's character giving him the whole talk, but the
Speaker 3: impact of like that shock of it being passed in
Speaker 3: the Dead Guy. It didn't have that shot because the
Speaker 3: second they showed that, it just felt very obvious to me,
Speaker 3: and like a very un Nolan in a way. I
Speaker 3: feel like he's usually better at hiding that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: So that was a con I had with some of
Speaker 3: that things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even really pick up all that. I
Speaker 2: think I was just like throw the whole scene. I
Speaker 2: was like, what's going on here that when it got
Speaker 2: to that point, I guess I didn't even like consciously
Speaker 2: realize it. I'll show it out. Another action scene, I
Speaker 2: didn't actually like the one where he's fighting him invert himself.
Speaker 2: His inverted self so much just looked kind of weird
Speaker 2: for me. But I did really like was earlier in
Speaker 2: the movie when he's in the kitchen and then he
Speaker 2: has like the goons coming after him. I thought that
Speaker 2: was a really fun fight scene. I just like I
Speaker 2: thought it was like super visceral when he like takes
Speaker 2: the cheese grater and like rubs that that made me
Speaker 2: cringe and like the best way possible. So I like
Speaker 2: that action scene and other than that, I like the bigger,
Speaker 2: more set piece ones, but the hand to hand combat
Speaker 2: with inverted versions didn't didn't work so much for me.
Speaker 4: One thing I want to point out, you guys are
Speaker 4: talking about how like you like cats ending and.
Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: The interesting thing for when you think about this as
Speaker 4: a whole is so the variant of Sator that they killed,
Speaker 4: he was the one from the future and he went back, so.
Speaker 3: And I love that reveal that he went back to
Speaker 3: hang out with his wife who was just trying to
Speaker 3: have a good date.
Speaker 1: And then like it's that fun thing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, he's in the future, he thinks she's from
Speaker 3: the past, and then when she does real hill she's
Speaker 3: from the future or she's the current time.
Speaker 1: I really like that reveal. I really like that a lot.
Speaker 4: That that whole sequence, like the whole basically the whole
Speaker 4: film is doomed to loop again and again and again,
Speaker 4: which I like. I like how that happens because like
Speaker 4: the real Sato comes back or whatever, because and because
Speaker 4: that was obviously the one from the future that died,
Speaker 4: and obviously then you learn now that the protagonist goes
Speaker 4: off to recruit Robert Pattison and then something happens to
Speaker 4: protagonist and then it just loops back around the Rod
Speaker 4: Preston recruiting the protagonist.
Speaker 1: So it's just this unending cycle that I think.
Speaker 4: Is I like that in time travel movies when you
Speaker 4: can kind of like map it out again again because
Speaker 4: it's just.
Speaker 1: It's all travel obergatory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they always have that, like, well if you
Speaker 3: didn't go and that's why it's always like I did,
Speaker 3: like the conversation leads to multiverse, because there has to
Speaker 3: be some multiverse where some know and didn't go back
Speaker 3: in time and everything just ended right, because that's like,
Speaker 3: who was that original Liz Debicki on the boat? You know,
Speaker 3: because she sees she's on a separate boat and then
Speaker 3: she sees another woman jumping off the boat. There has
Speaker 3: to be one version of elizabethe Becky that does not
Speaker 3: see that version of her jumping off the boat, right,
Speaker 3: you would have to think.
Speaker 2: But then well, I mean everything will change there because
Speaker 2: when she gets onto the boat, what's his space won't
Speaker 2: be there, So yeah, that's really.
Speaker 4: But that version of her not seeing herself jump off
Speaker 4: that doesn't exist because at the moment you go back
Speaker 4: in time, you create that ripple where it just has
Speaker 4: to continuously.
Speaker 1: At some point had to exist, right because before like
Speaker 1: what about the very.
Speaker 2: First like alternate versions there is I guess.
Speaker 3: Well, because it's like the very first person, like the
Speaker 3: prime timeline, when they're going and they haven't met time
Speaker 3: travel yet, they wouldn't see that person on the boat, right.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't know, they wouldn't have.
Speaker 4: But there's still always that future version that created time
Speaker 4: travel and would have gone back to that first.
Speaker 1: I believe that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying that prime one she would go back,
Speaker 3: and the second or third one would see herself. But
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go I'm not gonna go too deep
Speaker 3: in though, because that's like every time travel like mumbo jumbo.
Speaker 2: So mumbo jumbo. What else I got? Topic wise?
Speaker 4: Daly one of my favorite things and I've never I
Speaker 4: couldn't fathom it when I was watching it is I
Speaker 4: love that. Okay, red team was going in and they
Speaker 4: were in the regular timeline going countdown ten minutes, and
Speaker 4: then you had Blue team that went in, which was
Speaker 4: basically negative ten minutes counting up, and I really really
Speaker 4: liked the fact that they both converged at the same time,
Speaker 4: and that sequence where the building was just basically inverting
Speaker 4: back up and then their Red Team's rocket took out
Speaker 4: the top and Blue Team's rocket or both rockets hit
Speaker 4: the top, but the explosion took out the base.
Speaker 1: Like it was just so I was so good, visually cool,
Speaker 1: it was visually old. That's the thing all I think
Speaker 1: the stuff is really visuical.
Speaker 3: But I was like, that's where I need a graph
Speaker 3: because there's like three separate explosions.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, what's going on here? Why do
Speaker 1: they need to repair this building?
Speaker 3: Because even like getting shot for me, sometimes it's weird,
Speaker 3: like I know they're seeing in reverse, but sometimes you'll
Speaker 3: get shot and then obviosly there's no bull but you
Speaker 3: still have the effects. So it's still just like there's
Speaker 3: sometimes where I think it worked very well building one.
Speaker 1: It might work very well.
Speaker 3: Mechanically, but I was I was like, I'm lost, I
Speaker 3: don't know what's happening.
Speaker 4: Well, it seems like such a crazy terrain that you're
Speaker 4: traversing because you have to watch out for regular bullets
Speaker 4: coming your way. But then the inverted settings as well,
Speaker 4: like for the protagonist as he was running a piece
Speaker 4: of concrete off the ground flipped up and like flipped
Speaker 4: him around, or like when it passed these people he
Speaker 4: was with, was like shooting from a foxhole that was
Speaker 4: blown up, but they didn't know that the bricks were
Speaker 4: gonna come back, so just came up from swallowing.
Speaker 1: Also much like Inception.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it would make much sense, but
Speaker 3: I'd love a video game like that where it's just
Speaker 3: you know, I like, I liked it all visually, I
Speaker 3: just uh, my slow brain needed uh needs a second
Speaker 3: watch for some of this stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, any other things, because I don't I think
Speaker 1: I've touched on almost over them.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of any cons last night that
Speaker 3: I had that I couldn't have said spoiler rise because
Speaker 3: most my pros, like visually was I found stunning. Like
Speaker 3: I said last night, it's just even if this movie's
Speaker 3: on me, just like the ceratography and action, I really
Speaker 3: enjoy the visuals and stuff like the very little use
Speaker 3: of CG obviously there's a lot of it, and like
Speaker 3: the inverted stuff, but still I liked all that. I
Speaker 3: love the soundtrack, and like I said, I don't think
Speaker 3: there's anything spoilers that I like. I said, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: surprised all that humor worked for me for the majority
Speaker 3: of just like at one point we're passing, had all
Speaker 3: the guys with their guns, He's like, you better eat,
Speaker 3: it's gonna get cold.
Speaker 1: It all it all worked for me. I got me.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm with you on that. Like I like
Speaker 1: a lot of the humor.
Speaker 4: I liked when even at the dinner setting, when the
Speaker 4: protagonist sits down and the side of looks at him like,
Speaker 4: did you sleep with my wife? He's like, no, not yet,
Speaker 4: and then he goes and he kisses her as he walks,
Speaker 4: so like he's just sticking it to him. And all
Speaker 4: that stuff I enjoyed, And the more I've talked about it,
Speaker 4: the more I really kind of I do like the protagonists.
Speaker 4: I like Robert Pattison a lot in this movie. I
Speaker 4: really really loved him in this film. I like I
Speaker 4: always said, like, for me, if he could like land
Speaker 4: the role in the Lighthouse, then I can see him
Speaker 4: as Batman. And I stand by that because I to me,
Speaker 4: I saw him as bad man way before you know
Speaker 4: seeing this movie.
Speaker 1: So but I'm even.
Speaker 3: On that one scene where he walked out. He had
Speaker 3: like when he was going to the bank vault. I
Speaker 3: feel like Warner Brothers saw that and was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: he can have an audition for Batman because he was
Speaker 3: all suited up and he had like the slick back air.
Speaker 1: I doubt you have, Dylman. Have you seen the Batman trailer?
Speaker 2: Dylan, No, I haven't.
Speaker 3: Okay, we gotta get you when you're in Colonna. We're
Speaker 3: gonna pull you out. You're gonna watch it with us,
Speaker 3: But what about you doing anything else?
Speaker 1: You have him shout out.
Speaker 2: I did kind of touch on it, but I did
Speaker 2: really like the music as well. There was like obviously
Speaker 2: it's a lot of that same like Hans Zimmer stuff,
Speaker 2: even though it's not Hans Zimmer. Yeah, but there was one.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of cool parts. Like one there was
Speaker 2: just a character like walking by just like a gate fence,
Speaker 2: and as the cameras like zooming past this fence, you
Speaker 2: kind of see each picket like zooming by, and like
Speaker 2: the music was perfectly time with like each picket. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that makes sense, but it was.
Speaker 1: I think I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it kind of happened like a couple of times,
Speaker 2: I think, but yeah, like the special effects were great.
Speaker 2: I really did like Robert Pattison. He was my favorite
Speaker 2: character as well. Even if I didn't fully understand what
Speaker 2: was going on with him, I still thought he was
Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Well, I think he was good because he was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun.
Speaker 3: But there is portions in the movie where, especially when
Speaker 3: Washington's question him, I never like because Emily said she
Speaker 3: thought he might be bad.
Speaker 1: I never got that.
Speaker 3: But you always got the sense of this guy is
Speaker 3: not telling us everything, and he just seemed like he
Speaker 3: could switch between being that comedic beat to also just untrustworthy,
Speaker 3: not slimy.
Speaker 1: But just you need to keep your eye on him.
Speaker 1: He's like a chameleon where you just didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: know at one point where he was going because he
Speaker 1: was acting very soleom and he's giving him this sex wisition.
Speaker 1: Oh you can't hear I mean, oh, we're back in
Speaker 1: my back maybe seconds there.
Speaker 3: Oh my finger maybe it just slipped on the uh
Speaker 3: uh the mute thing. But all I said was that
Speaker 3: I just liked that he wouldn't back and forth between
Speaker 3: feeling untrustworthy but then friendly right away, and it was
Speaker 3: just you could never put a finger on him. But
Speaker 3: like I said, I never felt like he was bad.
Speaker 1: I felt he was just always keeping my eye on him,
Speaker 1: like when he called him the cavalry too, it's like
Speaker 1: even like who's the cavalry? Like every I think that
Speaker 1: mystery worked like every fifteen minutes or something new about him.
Speaker 1: And that's what really made me intrigued about him.
Speaker 3: He's somebody that they don't I don't want it, but
Speaker 3: if there was, like here's a pretty cool comic book
Speaker 3: of like twenty two pages about his character, He's the
Speaker 3: one I'd want that I've just to see like Okay,
Speaker 3: how did he get recruited?
Speaker 1: What was his life before? You know?
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: For sure anything else or a gosh, just this is
Speaker 3: a tough one to not do that even if we
Speaker 3: did this week layer without seeing a second time, like
Speaker 3: I think I've hit everything on my mind, but I
Speaker 3: know there's I know, even like when we did Inception,
Speaker 3: there's questions and that was ten years later, and I
Speaker 3: think this is gonna be one of those movies if
Speaker 3: someone were to retrospective ten years later, you're gonna have
Speaker 3: questions about it. So that's why Inception I always had
Speaker 3: questions about the first time, but I think I'm much
Speaker 3: more like Dylan, where I thought was streamlined a lot
Speaker 3: better and I got the majority of this where this
Speaker 3: feels like I have questions and there's lots of stuff
Speaker 3: that I still need some explaining on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a few things, like I don't feel like
Speaker 4: it's it's too difficult, like upon like a second and
Speaker 4: third watch to kind of like click with it, because
Speaker 4: I feel like I've been able to piece things together
Speaker 4: with how this is, like it goes on and talking
Speaker 4: about it is really kind of opened up like certain
Speaker 4: doors understanding it. There is a lot of still loose
Speaker 4: ends that I feel like that's in the film, but
Speaker 4: I need to revisit that when I watch it again.
Speaker 3: Because I was saying that tale last night, like we
Speaker 3: don't know if those are purposeful loose ends we didn't
Speaker 3: get loose ends, or they are just sometimes pottles. Can
Speaker 3: we talk about the inception where this could just be
Speaker 3: a plot hole, right they say something and maybe a
Speaker 3: scene kind of contradicts that and they just kind of go, oh, well,
Speaker 3: it's a dream world, and you go okay, Like I guess,
Speaker 3: so maybe I feel there's a lot of those moments
Speaker 3: where they're just like, well, people are inverted, and it's like,
Speaker 3: I guess we don't know the full rules of that,
Speaker 3: so you can say, oh, inversion.
Speaker 4: I originally thought that leading into the story, that Okay,
Speaker 4: they're talking about inverted objects, so obviously this these vehicles
Speaker 4: are inverted, and they're just that's how things are going.
Speaker 4: But now it makes much more sense that it's just yeah,
Speaker 4: they've it's not the items that are necessarily inverted. I mean,
Speaker 4: those items are, but it's the fact that they've gone
Speaker 4: through the inverted machine or a person.
Speaker 1: Or a person has to invert them, right because when
Speaker 1: they get in they said the car will move for it.
Speaker 1: Because I like that car that he drove that wasn't
Speaker 1: invert was it? Or was it? No?
Speaker 4: Because the car that when he went, he was driving
Speaker 4: that against the forces basically, yeah, so that's why in
Speaker 4: our timeline we see it driving off function.
Speaker 1: So but uh, again, like I I do like.
Speaker 4: This movie, and after talking about it, I can I
Speaker 4: feel confident. I want to say it's like eight out
Speaker 4: of ten for me.
Speaker 1: Oh it's going on. Look at that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it has not that I knew, but I just
Speaker 4: had to like vent it out and like share and
Speaker 4: discuss with you guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for like the people that if they didn't take
Speaker 3: non sports, I gave it a nine. That for me
Speaker 3: is like a I don't think I'll ever go up
Speaker 3: to point five. I think the only way could go
Speaker 3: was potentially down, but maybe it could go up a little.
Speaker 3: But for me, because I gave the Interstellar nine because
Speaker 3: I had problems with it, bo it's just I still
Speaker 3: just like the pure film like on screen is just
Speaker 3: the stuff I love, and I could watch this and
Speaker 3: I would if I had to pick, I would rather
Speaker 3: watch this over Interstellar or Done Kirk because I like
Speaker 3: this type of style, even the stuff that if it
Speaker 3: didn't make sense. I liked the Bond globe trotting, I
Speaker 3: like some of the jokes, I like the action. So
Speaker 3: for me, there's enough that I would watch this again
Speaker 3: over even if I'm fucking hell confused, I would watch again.
Speaker 1: So I don't want your final thoughts on Tenant. We
Speaker 1: finally saw it.
Speaker 2: We finally did. Yeah. I think it's weird going into
Speaker 2: this movie right because I just didn't know even a
Speaker 2: week ago if I would really actually be seeing it,
Speaker 2: even when I had my ticket on Adam, I didn't
Speaker 2: know if it would me and i'd be there watching it,
Speaker 2: So my expectations were in a weird spot because I
Speaker 2: feel like they were kind of low. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, I haven't seen anything in theater since Birds
Speaker 2: of Prey, so my expectations were quite hot or like.
Speaker 2: I just wanted like a really sweet movie to watch
Speaker 2: and just one that I would love from start to finish,
Speaker 2: and that unfortunately wasn't the case. But yeah, when it
Speaker 2: comes to Netflix, I'll watch it again. I'll watch it
Speaker 2: with a pen and paper that will maybe help me.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, exactly. Subtitles absolutely for sure to help me figure.
Speaker 1: It all out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I definitely need more watches with it. But unfortunately,
Speaker 2: as of one watch, I can't say that I'm a
Speaker 2: too big of a fan, but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see you when we get to the
Speaker 2: ranking part, like what kind of characters or scenes might
Speaker 2: make it into there, but for now, not my favorite.
Speaker 2: If you're Nolan fan, check it out. But maybe you
Speaker 2: don't need to run to the theater right now, and
Speaker 2: that's probably a good thing to do in the long
Speaker 2: run anyway.
Speaker 1: Yourself and go backwards to the theater.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, the oxygen tank with you.
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Speaker 1: Loll good stuff popping off with them over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did the entire Nome metroviously, that's out now,
Speaker 3: but there's other good goodies up there.
Speaker 1: You get early.
Speaker 3: We'll be doing some stuff in the future. Now we
Speaker 3: got through the Nome retro. We're still gonna do the
Speaker 3: Norn ranking. I mean, I talked to Kirkland and find
Speaker 3: out when he's singing ten if you're singing in the
Speaker 3: near future. If so, we'll wait for him. If not,
Speaker 3: we'll drop that in the near future and then next Uh.
Speaker 3: It's weird, but we're gonna do the Dark Knight trilogy
Speaker 3: just calm tary tracks, so those will be Patreon exclusive
Speaker 3: for a while. So there's gonna be tons of stuff
Speaker 3: up there. No one.
Speaker 1: We got Mulan and the Boys next weekend, right, We're trying.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, there's lots of stuff coming out. So we
Speaker 3: promised you when that all drops, it'll not be born.
Speaker 2: Peace