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Speaker 2: Okay, listen now to President Trump. Yesterday he was in
Speaker 2: the Oval Office when he made his dramatic announcement that
Speaker 2: we are now going to be selling a massive weapons
Speaker 2: package through NATO to Ukraine. Arming now Ukraine, I mean
Speaker 2: they will be armed to the hilt. There is going
Speaker 2: to be some serious fighting now over the next couple
Speaker 2: of months as Russia now pours even more forces along
Speaker 2: a long front line, as they try to push deeper
Speaker 2: and deeper into Ukraine to deliver a decisive victory. And
Speaker 2: we are now going to give Ukraine pretty much the
Speaker 2: ability to strike deep into Russia at will, to knock
Speaker 2: their planes out of the sky and their missiles, and
Speaker 2: to give the Ukrainian the beleaguered Ukrainian forces all of
Speaker 2: the tanks, artillery, ammunition that they need to launch a
Speaker 2: huge counter offensive six one seven two six six sixty
Speaker 2: eight sixty eight. It is very clear that Trump is
Speaker 2: upset about Putin and back and forth phone call after
Speaker 2: phone call in which Trump believes he's been strung along
Speaker 2: by Vladimir Putin, that he's you know, says very nice
Speaker 2: things on the phone. He's diplomatic, he wants peace, and
Speaker 2: yet he says when I get off the phone, suddenly
Speaker 2: I hear he's bombing another city, or bombing another town,
Speaker 2: or his soldiers have captured another village or another strategic position.
Speaker 2: Listen now to Trump saying, you know, I'm tired of
Speaker 2: Putin telling me he wants peace, but in reality it's war,
Speaker 2: war war. Roll cut three, Mike, how did.
Speaker 1: You tell him?
Speaker 3: I speak to him a lot about getting this thing done,
Speaker 3: and I always hang up and say, well, that was
Speaker 3: a nice phone go And then missiles launched into Kieva
Speaker 3: some other city, and I said, it's strange. And after
Speaker 3: that happens three or four times. You say the talk
Speaker 3: doesn't mean anything. My conversations with him are always very pleasant.
Speaker 3: I say, isn't that a very lovely conversation? And then
Speaker 3: the missiles go off. That night, I go home, I
Speaker 3: tell the first lady and I spoke to Vladimir today.
Speaker 3: We had a wonderful conversation. She said, oh, really, another
Speaker 3: city was just hit.
Speaker 2: So he now says he wants to equalize the forces
Speaker 2: on the battlefield and give Ukraine. Now the opportunity to
Speaker 2: blunt this offensive and to really bloody Russia's nose. And
Speaker 2: he believes by doing this it will that, combined with
Speaker 2: the tariffs and the sanctions should they kick in in
Speaker 2: fifty days, that this will break Putin and end this
Speaker 2: war once and for all. Now, final point, and then
Speaker 2: I want to go to the phone lines six one
Speaker 2: seven two, six, six, sixty eight sixty eight is the number.
Speaker 2: The problem with all of this is that there is
Speaker 2: no exit strategy, and no one is seeing this from
Speaker 2: Putin's point of view. And it's not a question of
Speaker 2: moral equivalents or a question of loving Vladimir Putin or
Speaker 2: believing in Vladimir Putin, or agreeing with Vladimir Putin. But
Speaker 2: as any general will tell you worth his or her salt,
Speaker 2: as any wartime leader will tell you with his or
Speaker 2: her salt, you have to get into the mind of
Speaker 2: your enemy. You have to get into the mind of
Speaker 2: the people that you're trying to get a peace deal from.
Speaker 2: And what's in Vladimir Putin's what is driving him, what
Speaker 2: is his calculation in all of this? Putin now clearly
Speaker 2: is going for a decisive, knockout victory on the battlefield.
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to just grind this out at the
Speaker 2: negotiating table. He wants Ukraine to sue for peace. He
Speaker 2: wants to end this militarily and by doing this get
Speaker 2: everything he wants at a final peace settlement after Ukraine
Speaker 2: waves the white flag. And the problem that Putin has,
Speaker 2: and I'm just stating a fact, this is just the
Speaker 2: reality we all have to face, is that they've lost
Speaker 2: over half a million Russian soldiers dead combined over a
Speaker 2: million dead and wounded. This has done tremendous damage to
Speaker 2: the Russian economy, to the Russian people. This has been
Speaker 2: an exhausting three year war. So with this horrific investment
Speaker 2: that he has made in this war, Putin now clearly
Speaker 2: feels he needs to win it. He can't stop, he
Speaker 2: won't stop, He doesn't want to stop, because ultimately he
Speaker 2: now understands that he needs to win this war to
Speaker 2: stay in power, and he needs to stay in power
Speaker 2: in order to stay alive, because anything short of total
Speaker 2: victory at this point will be seen by most Russians
Speaker 2: as a massive failure and a betrayal of the dead
Speaker 2: and of all of the sacrifices that have been made
Speaker 2: so Now that's fine. That doesn't mean, you know, you
Speaker 2: just roll over for somebody. But you have to ask
Speaker 2: yourself if he's willing to go all the way, and
Speaker 2: Putin is clearly willing to go all the way, are
Speaker 2: we willing to go all the way?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: What if this thing doesn't stop? What if Putin keeps
Speaker 2: going in September, in October, in November? Are we going
Speaker 2: to continue to send arms package after arms package after
Speaker 2: arms package? And if we continue to send defensive weapons
Speaker 2: as we saw a couple months ago where Ukraine fired
Speaker 2: them deep into Russian territory and that triggered a massive,
Speaker 2: overwhelming Russian response, are we going to keep escalating tit
Speaker 2: for tat, tit for tat? What happens if Putin's back
Speaker 2: is against the wall. Do you think he and his
Speaker 2: regime will accept defeat? Do you think the Russian people
Speaker 2: will accept defeat? Remember, Ukraine is on their doorstep. Ukraine
Speaker 2: was part of the Russian Empire for over a thousand years.
Speaker 2: Ukrainians and Russians share a common culture, a common religion,
Speaker 2: a common language, a common heritage. They are in many
Speaker 2: ways Orthodox Slavic Christian brothers. I'm not saying Ukrainians are Russians.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is they are very similar and they
Speaker 2: have been intertwined for a long part of their mutual histories.
Speaker 2: So we are getting involved in something that is a
Speaker 2: fundamental core interest of Russia, and it's very identity and
Speaker 2: it's very security. They are willing to go all the way,
Speaker 2: including potentially the use of nuclear weapons. Now are we
Speaker 2: willing to risk World War III? I keep asking this,
Speaker 2: and I see these idiots on Fox News. You know
Speaker 2: right away, ah, we are gonna show Putin whose boss really? Okay?
Speaker 2: And what if Putin starts to show us whose boss
Speaker 2: would say a limited tactical nuclear strike, and then what
Speaker 2: we respond with a tactical nuclear strike. No one is
Speaker 2: thinking of the endgame. It's easy to start a war.
Speaker 2: It's very hard to get out of a war, as
Speaker 2: both Putin and Zelensky are learning, and as the Russian
Speaker 2: and Ukrainians are learning. So we have to ask ourselves,
Speaker 2: when push comes to shove, is this our business? Is
Speaker 2: this worth us getting involved in a direct war against Russia,
Speaker 2: which has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world. To me,
Speaker 2: the answer is a clear no. It's the answer to
Speaker 2: me as an obvious no which flag flies over eastern
Speaker 2: Ukraine the Donbas, whether it is the Ukrainian blue and
Speaker 2: yellow trident or the Russian red, white and blue Eagle,
Speaker 2: is of no national strategic security interest of the United States.
Speaker 2: And yet here we are potentially risking a world war
Speaker 2: if this continues to escalate over a part of the
Speaker 2: world thousands of miles away that most Americans, including all
Speaker 2: these warmongers on Fox and in Congress led by Lindsey
Speaker 2: Graham and Dick Blumenthal, that fraud who couldn't find Ukraine
Speaker 2: on a map or these territories if you held a
Speaker 2: gun to their head. To President Trump, you campaigned on
Speaker 2: America first. Please, let's get back to America first, not
Speaker 2: Ukraine first. America first.
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