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Speaker 2: The human guinea pig stuff in Africa.
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Speaker 1: It's so insane.
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Speaker 2: Go white as soon as subway shop? Oh, specimens and
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Speaker 2: whole life is spent.
Speaker 6: What he gonna do?
Speaker 4: Mh what that of wolf?
Speaker 5: I'm married to a bunker hooper. We got wedding. We
Speaker 5: got joined in the subway. Shut over the road.
Speaker 2: Visits and minerals they come to you.
Speaker 5: Visit and minerals they come from this year too.
Speaker 4: What talk about for talk?
Speaker 5: I got married. I got married to my foko hoop.
Speaker 5: We got wedded, We got joined in the subway.
Speaker 2: He's shocking first sight sight? What should I do with
Speaker 2: the first sight? Put it in my head, throw it
Speaker 2: off the ground?
Speaker 7: Who knows?
Speaker 4: Just what would I do? So we got wedding, joined
Speaker 4: in the subway.
Speaker 3: He shot over.
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Speaker 1: Because so to another address and then sold.
Speaker 2: Into somebody make it transactions make sense, a balance, which.
Speaker 8: Which makes very cutious because the rest.
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Speaker 2: All right, what's up, welcome, It's time to get into
Speaker 2: the nonsense. This is the issue that has taken over Twitter,
Speaker 2: and we've been in the thick of it. We've been arguing.
Speaker 2: We've been calling out then Desusa, Brada, where are you, Brada?
Speaker 2: We tried to call you out, bra Da? You are
Speaker 2: we called devasion, called you're not? Where do you go?
Speaker 2: Where you wish? Brad? Carriers? We even have booger. So
Speaker 2: if you didn't see the NEAs, Desusa's got called out,
Speaker 2: but he's terrified. He doesn't want have an actual debate.
Speaker 2: Shocker here gard So I called him a dispensational heretic
Speaker 2: because of course he is. And he didn't do very
Speaker 2: well with this. This hurt his fee fees, and he
Speaker 2: tried to come back and roast me. He said, you
Speaker 2: are a comedian, you are a comedian, very body, Brada,
Speaker 2: And I said, I co wrote one of the top
Speaker 2: comedic episodes this year that went viral. So this man
Speaker 2: with five million Verizon cal Center bought followers even in
Speaker 2: the comments gets ratioed. And then I race showed him
Speaker 2: even more intently because I said, about the Sam Hyde episode, Uh,
Speaker 2: where is it at? You are this snack Trump?
Speaker 6: Who you?
Speaker 2: Why are you gonna be calling somebody a snake charmer?
Speaker 1: If you.
Speaker 2: From India? Dog? Just stop and think about that for
Speaker 2: a minute. How are you going to call somebody a
Speaker 2: snake charmer from India?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 1: Do do do? Do do do?
Speaker 2: Here's my zinger, I said, I helped write this about
Speaker 2: the H one B Visas. I said, it's about your
Speaker 2: work status, Danesh. And this got twenty one point six
Speaker 2: million impressions. So Danish is not He was not on
Speaker 2: his game this week, and in pure boomer fashion, he
Speaker 2: continued to flounder, continue to try to reply, and it
Speaker 2: just turned into disaster after disaster. Now that's what sparked
Speaker 2: all of today's discussion. I said, it's a ripe, perfect
Speaker 2: time to get into this classic topic of refuting Christian
Speaker 2: Zionism and dispensationalism. And we're going to start with the scriptures.
Speaker 2: Obviously not difficult to refute. This is a retorto heresy.
Speaker 2: It is preposterous. It is going to be easy to refute.
Speaker 2: How do we do that? Well, let's start with the covenants.
Speaker 2: Every one of the covenants is linked in a single person,
Speaker 2: and I think you're going to notice who that is.
Speaker 2: We're going to see as we work through each one
Speaker 2: of these discussions and topics, how this all culminates in
Speaker 2: a specific person and his actions, and this will be
Speaker 2: the ultimate refutation of dispensational heresies. Are you all ready
Speaker 2: for this? Now? The first covenant is in the Garden
Speaker 2: of Eden, and God established in a relationship with man
Speaker 2: and gave certain criteria and certain stipulations, and those sipulations
Speaker 2: dependent upon Adam's obedience and what he would do as
Speaker 2: to whether or not he would experience covenant blessings or
Speaker 2: covenant cursings. Now, there's a pattern to these kinds of
Speaker 2: covenants throughout the Old Testament, and a lot has been
Speaker 2: written on this. So I'm not going to rehearse a
Speaker 2: whole lot of that because it's not super necessary for
Speaker 2: our purposes. Today. We're going to talk about these patterns.
Speaker 2: And the first is that it's pattern kind of on
Speaker 2: along the lines of a Souzarain treaty of the ancient
Speaker 2: and Middle East, the ancient Near Eastern world, the suzerain
Speaker 2: is the he's the king who makes a deal with
Speaker 2: the vassal. In the Bible, these covenants are very similar
Speaker 2: to the covenant agreements that exist in the cultures around
Speaker 2: Israel in the Near East as well. So the king
Speaker 2: or the Lord basic promises, sometimes upon himself, sometimes upon
Speaker 2: other things. The scriptures, there's actually a bunch of different versions.
Speaker 2: There's a hand covenant, assault covenant, animal covenants, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And in this case God is going to in some
Speaker 2: of these cases do different things to symbolize and show
Speaker 2: forth different patterns and different ideas. So in Genesis, God
Speaker 2: makes a covenant with Adam, and it is later stated
Speaker 2: in the scriptures that it is a covenant relationship with Adam.
Speaker 2: Even the word covenant is not immediately used in Genesis.
Speaker 2: Later on the Minor Prophets, it does mention those are
Speaker 2: some strong z impact right there. It does mention this
Speaker 2: relationship in a covenant way. It also mentions in Isaiah
Speaker 2: that mankind, after rebelling, entered into a covenant with Death.
Speaker 2: So if you're not in covenant with Adam or acume
Speaker 2: me with Christ, you are kind of by default in
Speaker 2: covenant with Adam and with Death, and Death is an angel.
Speaker 2: So all of these covenants are in some way personal.
Speaker 2: They relate to the suzerain or the ruler that you
Speaker 2: are covenanting with. Now we all know Adam and Eve
Speaker 2: failed to keep that covenant in Genesis with God and
Speaker 2: they were booted out. Now not too long after this, however,
Speaker 2: God begins the patterns of bringing man back to himself right,
Speaker 2: And the first instance that we have of this restoration
Speaker 2: is Genesis nine. And as you note, when we walk
Speaker 2: through these covenants, you'll notice that each one of these
Speaker 2: covenants has a predictive typological fulfillment in the person of Christ. Obviously,
Speaker 2: these are all about Christ. And we'll see that where
Speaker 2: Paul says all the promises of God are yeay and
Speaker 2: him promises, that refers to covenant promises. In other words,
Speaker 2: the deal the relationship that God is establishing with man
Speaker 2: in all of these covenants. All of the covenants are one.
Speaker 2: Sometimes New Testament writers like Paul will contrast elements of
Speaker 2: say the Mosaic Covenant over against the New Covenant in Christ.
Speaker 2: That does not mean that they are oppositional covenants and
Speaker 2: that there are different plan bees that God has with
Speaker 2: his people. That is the central heresy of the schizophrenic
Speaker 2: deity of dispensationalism, who keeps trying Plan B, Plan C,
Speaker 2: Plan D, because it's a chopped up, schizo version of
Speaker 2: history and there's no unifying factor in the person of Christ.
Speaker 2: And there's no single people of God or city of God,
Speaker 2: as sant Agustin wrote about throughout all of history, from
Speaker 2: Genesis to the end of the world, there's one city
Speaker 2: of God. That is the people of God, that is
Speaker 2: the covenant people of God. And it is only an
Speaker 2: always is the Church, even in the Old Testament, is
Speaker 2: the ecclesia, the Church, the called out people of God
Speaker 2: in covenant with Him. And all of these people believe
Speaker 2: in the Gospel. When I read this in the New Testament,
Speaker 2: when I myself was a young goober, retarded evangelical and
Speaker 2: I believe in dispensationalism, I realized, wait a minute, the
Speaker 2: Gospel was preached to Abraham, the Gospel was preached in
Speaker 2: the wilderness. Well, then that means that it's the same
Speaker 2: gospel at all times. And even though we have more
Speaker 2: revelation than they had in Genesis or in the days
Speaker 2: of the Judges, or whatever, it is still the same
Speaker 2: fundamental revelation about the person of Christ, and the only
Speaker 2: difference is that they look forward to the coming of
Speaker 2: the Messiah and we look back and await his second coming.
Speaker 2: So God has a covenant with Noah. And as you know,
Speaker 2: there are certain elements of this covenant that deal with,
Speaker 2: for example, the natural progression of the seasons. Right, we
Speaker 2: get basically a providential covenant of nature. It is the
Speaker 2: nooeic covenant that follows after the endemic covenant. So this
Speaker 2: is the beginning of God restoring what was lost as
Speaker 2: Adam and Eve are banished out of Eden, which was
Speaker 2: a spiritual metaphysical reality different than what they walked out
Speaker 2: of when they came onto the earth after the fall.
Speaker 2: In the Orthodox view via Romans eight, the fall affects
Speaker 2: all of the cosmos and everything fundamentally is altered as
Speaker 2: a result of this, leading to decay, entropy, death, animal death,
Speaker 2: plant death. All death comes from Adam's sin, and Adam
Speaker 2: is falling upon the angelic sin because he covenanted with
Speaker 2: the serpent. Genesis is not talking about a snake talking.
Speaker 2: The text is talking about an angelic being in the
Speaker 2: appearance of an angelic serpentine image. In the rest of
Speaker 2: the scriptures, when that serpentine image is used, it is
Speaker 2: talking about a fallen angel. It is not talking about
Speaker 2: an actual literal snake talking. And so when atheists come
Speaker 2: to the text and so well, you do, dumb Christians
Speaker 2: believe in talking sneaks. It's an angelic being. It's just
Speaker 2: described as serpentine an image. And that's discussed in other
Speaker 2: passages where we're told that there are angelic beings like serpents.
Speaker 2: I think they're called nephesh. No, there's there's a Hebrew
Speaker 2: word of forgetting the name off the top of my head,
Speaker 2: but there's a specific Hebrew word for what those beings are.
Speaker 2: In this Covenant, you'll notice that God has Noah positioned
Speaker 2: as the head of a new household, a new humanity.
Speaker 2: This is the church. That's why the Church is pictured
Speaker 2: as a boat like Noah's arc. That's why this famous icon,
Speaker 2: I'm a giant version of it at my house, the
Speaker 2: Ark of Salvation. This is Noah's boat. Noah's boat is
Speaker 2: a type of the Church as a boat. And Jesus
Speaker 2: is the ultimate Noah, just like Jesus is the new
Speaker 2: Atom and that's how we know, for example, that Adam
Speaker 2: was also in a covenant is second first Green is
Speaker 2: fifteen and second These as well talks about Adam's relationship
Speaker 2: as the head of all humanity, and when Adam Philly
Speaker 2: brought death upon all of his descendants, and then Christ
Speaker 2: as the new Atom, brings life upon all of his descendants,
Speaker 2: which is all of humanity in terms of their nature.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean everybody's a son of God. It just
Speaker 2: means that all of the nature of man is resurrected
Speaker 2: through recapitulation. Now, Jesus is then the new Noah in
Speaker 2: this covenant, and so everything that Noah is doing, everything
Speaker 2: that you see happening in this Noiic covenant is a type.
Speaker 2: Be fruitful and multiply. The fear of you will be
Speaker 2: upon all of the animals, et cetera. Up, and this
Speaker 2: is where we're first told that men can now eat animals.
Speaker 2: Right before this, it was normative to eat vegetables because
Speaker 2: there was still a close proximity to the fall. This
Speaker 2: is another reason why people had longer lifespans, is that
Speaker 2: they're still relatively close temporarily speaking to the Edenic state.
Speaker 2: But when outside of eden there are new stipulations, one
Speaker 2: of which is the state. It is the first time
Speaker 2: that men are told not only can they eat animals
Speaker 2: if the blood is removed, they can also now exact
Speaker 2: the death penalty. And the death penalty is part of
Speaker 2: the governance of man post fall. So it's actually a
Speaker 2: good thing that God has established some role of the
Speaker 2: state here. This is the first institution of a Christian
Speaker 2: state with the figure of Noah. And you'll notice that
Speaker 2: at no point all the way up until Romans does
Speaker 2: this idea of the death penalty, and at some role
Speaker 2: of the state exacting that the death penalty go away.
Speaker 2: It is simply a fiction, an invented nonsense reality that
Speaker 2: pacifists and other people have come up with that this
Speaker 2: no longer matters, it doesn't apply. It consistently applies from
Speaker 2: the time of Noah all the way until Romans thirteen.
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of people don't even know
Speaker 2: that Noah was given the right to exact the death penalty.
Speaker 2: Whoever sheds man's blood, by man's blood, shall he be
Speaker 2: shed because it is an attack on the image of God.
Speaker 2: To kill a person is to deface the image of God.
Speaker 2: And thus I for not justice requires that that person
Speaker 2: be put to death, because they are now not just
Speaker 2: a defacer of the divine image by killing someone, they
Speaker 2: are now also a murderer. And so it is just
Speaker 2: to put to death people who are now murderers. It
Speaker 2: doesn't mean anyone can do this. It's not a I'll
Speaker 2: do it. It is given to Noah here as the
Speaker 2: head of this covenant. So Adam and even a covenant.
Speaker 2: One grin these fifteen says that Adam was a type
Speaker 2: of Christ, Eve, as a type of the Church, Eve,
Speaker 2: as a type of Mary many times over throughout the Bible.
Speaker 2: As we move up into this, Peter says that they
Speaker 2: were all baptized in the Paul says they were baptized
Speaker 2: in the cloud, in the sea. Peter says that what
Speaker 2: happened with Noah was a type You are now saved
Speaker 2: by baptism. The baptism is the washing away of the
Speaker 2: world of its filth. Here because humanity had defaced and
Speaker 2: defiled itself by turning to all kinds of wicked practices
Speaker 2: the time of Noah. And so God saves Noah and says,
Speaker 2: I will establish my covenant with you and all your
Speaker 2: descendants after Ultimately, this is Christ. Christ is the true
Speaker 2: Noah who saves us through the arc of the Church.
Speaker 2: The New Testament is very clear in that typological imagery.
Speaker 2: God promises that he will never cut off the earth
Speaker 2: with a flood, and the rainbow is the sign of
Speaker 2: this covenant. It is an everlasting covenant, and it's also
Speaker 2: for us something that demonstrates providence in nature. The signs
Speaker 2: and the seasons of the times will always continue until
Speaker 2: the end of the world, when there is the conflagration,
Speaker 2: which is the purifying of the universe with the divine energies.
Speaker 2: Why do we say that there's no created fire of God.
Speaker 2: God is not a creature. Paul says, Our God is
Speaker 2: a consuming fire, which means that there's no created purgatory fire.
Speaker 2: There is only the uncreated divine energy that you see
Speaker 2: in Leviticus nine or number twelve, when the cloud and
Speaker 2: the pillar and so forth are theophanic manifestations. Theophanies are
Speaker 2: not creatures. They're God in time and space. It's called
Speaker 2: God in time and space. It is worshiped. It is
Speaker 2: called the uncreated glory. To call that a creature is
Speaker 2: to be a stupid, tomistic heretic So the next covenant,
Speaker 2: as you I'm sure know, is the Abrahma covenant. Abraham
Speaker 2: was a pagan and his dad was an idol maker Terra.
Speaker 2: And then Abraham, here's the voice of God and converts.
Speaker 2: He converts to the true God. God, of course saves
Speaker 2: him by grace. Abraham is not saved by his works.
Speaker 2: But notice that God appears to him. This is a theophany.
Speaker 2: The Lord said, Abraham, get out of your country to
Speaker 2: your father's house, to landa that I will show you.
Speaker 2: I will bless those that bless you, and all curse
Speaker 2: those that curse you. Verse seven, the Lord appeared to Abraham,
Speaker 2: to your seat, I will give this land. And Abraham
Speaker 2: went and moved there to the mountain east of Bethel,
Speaker 2: and pitched his tent, with Bethel on the west and
Speaker 2: Ai on the east. And there he built an altar
Speaker 2: to the Lord and called upon the name of the Lord.
Speaker 2: So notice in verse eight, after this theophany, Abraham erects
Speaker 2: an altar. Noah also sacrificed when he came out of
Speaker 2: the arc, and there was the dove right. And so
Speaker 2: Noah offers a sacrifice. Abraham offers a sacrifice. This is
Speaker 2: liturgical worship. From the very beginning, God is worshiped with
Speaker 2: an altar and with liturgy. There is never a time
Speaker 2: when God does not accept worship through altar and liturgy.
Speaker 2: This alone refutes Protestant heretics, and it refutes Islam as
Speaker 2: not in continuity with the Old Testament religion clear as date. Now,
Speaker 2: that's not all that there is, because the Abrahmic Covenant
Speaker 2: is a series of Theophanes restatements, reaffirmations, and promises. But
Speaker 2: I want you to remember that the original statement is
Speaker 2: when you get to this land, you're going to be
Speaker 2: protected and all the families of the earth will be
Speaker 2: blessed in you. How are all the families of the
Speaker 2: earth going to be blessed through one God? Is lineage?
Speaker 3: Hmm hmm.
Speaker 2: Turns out it's not actually that complicated, despite what all
Speaker 2: the evangelical goobers want to say to make it complicated
Speaker 2: and nonsensical. God says, I am your exceeding reward in
Speaker 2: Genesis fifteen one. So the ultimate reward isn't even a
Speaker 2: patch of land to Abraham. The ultimate reward is God himself,
Speaker 2: not a patch of land. What's the patch of land
Speaker 2: gonna symbolize what we're going to see in Romans for
Speaker 2: exactly what the patch of land symbolizes. Did you know
Speaker 2: that the Bible explains itself. That's not solo scriptura, that's
Speaker 2: just canonical interpretation. To say that other passages explain other
Speaker 2: passages is just part of the doctrine of inspiration. Has
Speaker 2: nothing to do with solar scriptura. That's just how you
Speaker 2: interpret a holistic, full revelation of Old and New Testament
Speaker 2: working together. Here, you'll notice in Genesis fifteen in this theophany,
Speaker 2: it is stated that the one who is the voice,
Speaker 2: and it's actually worded better in the septuagen because in
Speaker 2: verse four it says the logos came to him. So
Speaker 2: in Genesis fifteen four the logos came to him, the
Speaker 2: voice came to How does a voice appear? How does
Speaker 2: a logos appear to you? And in this situation, he's
Speaker 2: got a childless wife, but he's got another possible seed
Speaker 2: that he could have through Hagar, and God says, no,
Speaker 2: it's not going to be through Hagar, is going to
Speaker 2: be through Sarah. But Sarah's old. How is that possible?
Speaker 2: It's going to be a miraculous birth a miraculous birth.
Speaker 2: Where have we heard this before? This is a type.
Speaker 2: This is looking forward to. It's foreshadowing the virgin birth,
Speaker 2: the ultimate miraculous birth. And throughout the Old Testament there
Speaker 2: are many miraculous birds. Those are anticipatory. They're preparing for
Speaker 2: the miraculous birth of the Messiah, the one who is
Speaker 2: the seed that fulfills all of these promises. How will
Speaker 2: I know that I will inherit this land? Well, God says,
Speaker 2: cut up these animals, puts them in a trance, and
Speaker 2: God moves through like smoking oven and lamps of fire
Speaker 2: Verse seventeen. God appeared like a burning torch. That's the
Speaker 2: uncreated fire. God is an all consuming fire. That's a
Speaker 2: theophanic manifestation. God is not a torch, but he appeared
Speaker 2: like a torch and a smoking oven. This is the
Speaker 2: burning presence of God. This is a theophany. And if
Speaker 2: you read Ezekiel, it actually explains what that light and
Speaker 2: torch imagery is. In Ezekiel one thirteen, it reads, when
Speaker 2: he sees the likeness of the cherubim, the living creatures.
Speaker 2: As for the likeness of these creatures, their appearance was
Speaker 2: like burning coals of fire. Some of them say torches,
Speaker 2: burning lights. Now you say, well, wait a minute, Ezekiel's
Speaker 2: talking about cherubim. I thought you were saying that this
Speaker 2: was God himself. It is because when you read Ezekiel,
Speaker 2: and we have a whole podcast on this, this is
Speaker 2: the presence of the spirit amongst the wheels or the cherubs.
Speaker 2: What is this fire? Well, it turns out Ezekiel tells
Speaker 2: you what this is. This is one like a son
Speaker 2: of Man riding the chariot. It's a throne chariot. The
Speaker 2: living creatures are the chariot that the logos the Son
Speaker 2: of Man rides. That's Ezekiel one through ten. Go watch
Speaker 2: my podcast on that. That's not what we're doing today.
Speaker 2: But I'm just telling you that, showing you that the
Speaker 2: Bible interprets the Bible. The burning coals, the divine presence,
Speaker 2: the torches, the lights, it's the same thing happening in
Speaker 2: Genesis seventeen with fifteen excuse me, with Abraham. So it's
Speaker 2: going to be a miraculous birth. It's going to be
Speaker 2: a seed that somehow reaches all the people of the earth.
Speaker 2: God renames him here in the third statement of the
Speaker 2: Covenant in Genesis seventeen, I will give you the land
Speaker 2: of Canaan as an everlasting possession. Oh does that prove dispensationalism. Well,
Speaker 2: at this point we want to look at Romans four. Therefore,
Speaker 2: this descendant, this descent of being in child of Abraham,
Speaker 2: is a upon all those who have faith and through
Speaker 2: grace are in this covenant. For is written I've made
Speaker 2: your father many nations in the presence of God, in
Speaker 2: whom Abraham believed, who gives life to the dead, and
Speaker 2: calls those two things which were not so. This is
Speaker 2: a miraculous sonship and birth. So will your descendants be.
Speaker 2: And though he did not consider though not being weak
Speaker 2: in faith, he did not consider his own body already dead.
Speaker 2: He did not waver the promise of God, but was
Speaker 2: strengthening faith, and he became the heir. Right. If you
Speaker 2: read Romans for, you'll notice that the miraculous presence in
Speaker 2: the womb of this child, even though Sarah was advanced
Speaker 2: in age, this actually refers to the miraculous birth that
Speaker 2: we experienced through faith. It's not just the seed, it's
Speaker 2: also we are reborn as new seeds. Right in Romans five,
Speaker 2: we are told that the gift is actually reigning through
Speaker 2: Christ through faith, and it is the whole world that
Speaker 2: is the taking of the land. So the typology of
Speaker 2: Canaan being taken by the Jews is fulfilled in the
Speaker 2: Church taking the whole land of the earth. The meek
Speaker 2: shall inherit the earth. Promise to Abraham is you'll be
Speaker 2: given this land of Canaan. That is a type of
Speaker 2: the Church taking over the world through the Gospel. Everything
Speaker 2: happening in these covenants is typologically fulfilled in the New
Speaker 2: Covenant in the First Advent. So all of the evangelical
Speaker 2: dispensational heresies will prolong and postpone all the realities that
Speaker 2: Christ brought at the First Advent. Why because they are
Speaker 2: ecclesiological heretics. They don't understand the filment of these promises,
Speaker 2: not just in the person of Christ and his work,
Speaker 2: but in his Church, which is his mystical living body
Speaker 2: in time and space. And that's why they were all
Speaker 2: severed from the historic Church. Now people think that there
Speaker 2: are no stipulations to the Braemi Covenant. That is not
Speaker 2: actually true. God says, you will keep my covenant and
Speaker 2: your descendants after you throughout their generations. This is the
Speaker 2: covenant that you will keep. You will do this, you
Speaker 2: will be circumcised, et cetera. Circumcision is a type of
Speaker 2: baptism which is a symbol in part of the circumcision
Speaker 2: of the heart and the transformation of the inner man
Speaker 2: by the Holy Spirit. It is wrong to divorce that
Speaker 2: from the actual ritual that we do, and that's why
Speaker 2: Jesus says you must be born of water and spirit.
Speaker 2: That's why Acts two says repent and be baptize for
Speaker 2: the remission of sins, and they immediately water baptize people.
Speaker 2: That's why it is called the labor of regeneration. All
Speaker 2: of the Gnostic Baptist heretics divorce the work of the
Speaker 2: Holy Spirit from the physical matter, and that's why they
Speaker 2: don't have sacraments. They revert to an Old Testament idea
Speaker 2: of what the rights are. So in other words, in
Speaker 2: their position, it's a retrograde movement to go from typological
Speaker 2: Old Testament rights to more typological rights. In other words,
Speaker 2: the rights don't do anything now other than what they
Speaker 2: did in the Old Testament. Baptism is no different than
Speaker 2: circumcision for these people, but in the New Testament the
Speaker 2: realities are here. Because the Son of God has joined
Speaker 2: himself to matter to flesh, and he uses bread and
Speaker 2: wine and water because the Holy Spirit is joined then
Speaker 2: to those elements. And every heresy is a deviation from
Speaker 2: that reality that the old Old Testament types are pointing to.
Speaker 2: They all want to go back to Old Testament rights.
Speaker 2: That's why Protestantism as a whole is ultimately a judaizing heresy,
Speaker 2: especially when it comes to its sacramentology. So and in
Speaker 2: Genesis twenty two we have another statement about the stipulation
Speaker 2: when Jesus steps in and stops Abraham from even giving
Speaker 2: up his son in this period of testing. But you'll
Speaker 2: notice he says, since you have not withheld your only son,
Speaker 2: all of these things I will give to you. This
Speaker 2: is another restatement of the Covenant. So you notice see
Speaker 2: that Abraham is consistently done faithful covenantal actions. It doesn't
Speaker 2: mean he's sinless. He has committed sins, He's not a
Speaker 2: there's nobody sinless, but he has continued to be faithful
Speaker 2: to the Covenant, which even makes provision for sin. So
Speaker 2: there was never an expectation that anyone could be sinless
Speaker 2: by keeping the Covenant. Right, Okay, and by the way,
Speaker 2: you'll notice that for its first eighteen roilment, right in
Speaker 2: your seat, all the nations of the earth will be
Speaker 2: blessed because you obeyed what I said. So notice that
Speaker 2: obedience is still even part of the Abramic covenant. This
Speaker 2: disproves the product distance who will say, oh, the Abramic
Speaker 2: Covenant was all about no works at all. Right, you
Speaker 2: don't do any works. That's only one sided covenant. And
Speaker 2: that's why Paul uses Abraham as the model of justification.
Speaker 2: But as we pointed out many times in Romans four,
Speaker 2: Paul doesn't cite Genesis fifteen. He's excuse me. He cites
Speaker 2: Genesis fifteen, but he should have cited Genesis twelve, because
Speaker 2: according to the Protestant idea, Abraham would have been saved
Speaker 2: in Genesis twelve. That's when he would have been transitioned
Speaker 2: out of wrath into grace. So that refutes Protestanism in
Speaker 2: terms of Soli feede all right. Next, of course, is
Speaker 2: the Mosaic covenant in Exodus nineteen. And of course Moses,
Speaker 2: just like Abraham, is a type of Christ who is
Speaker 2: the seed. Well, the seed is Jesus. According to Galatians
Speaker 2: three in Galatians four and Romans three and four. So
Speaker 2: we know that Jesus is the Seed and the Abramic Covenant,
Speaker 2: and so what Jesus brings is the fulfillment of the
Speaker 2: promises to Abraham. Now what does Jesus bring The opening
Speaker 2: up of the covenants to the Gentiles, which is prophesied
Speaker 2: in dozens and dozens of Old Testament passages, from the
Speaker 2: Psalms to Isaiah to the minor prophets, many many, many
Speaker 2: times over. We did a whole talk on this years
Speaker 2: ago about how the prophecies are just messianic prophecies, there
Speaker 2: are also ecclesiological prophecies. In other words, the Church is
Speaker 2: also a massive element of the fulfillment of all these
Speaker 2: Old Testament passages of the Gentiles being brought into the Covenant.
Speaker 2: When you understand that, that means that the Church of
Speaker 2: History is the fulfillment of these things. The Church of
Speaker 2: the first thousand years is not Protestant. Therefore, the Church
Speaker 2: of History is not the Protestant Church, and is the
Speaker 2: Orthodox Church that fulfills these promises. In the Mosaic Covenant,
Speaker 2: you have God making a promise to the nation of
Speaker 2: Israel that if they keep these these laws and these
Speaker 2: sacrifices and whatnot, they will be blessed in the land.
Speaker 2: God will prosper them and so forth. And it is
Speaker 2: confirmed with blood sacrifice. Now, the New Covenant in Christ
Speaker 2: is the ultimate fulfillment of this because the passover the
Speaker 2: High Priest, all of those elements of this mosaic Covenant,
Speaker 2: according to the Book of Hebrews, are all explained as
Speaker 2: fulfilled in the work of Christ. And even the High
Speaker 2: Priest when he goes in on the day of Atonement
Speaker 2: and he atones for the people at the ark of
Speaker 2: the Covenant at the mercy seat, that is explained by
Speaker 2: Hebrews seven to be when Jesus went into in the
Speaker 2: ascension the Holy of Holies in the Third Heavens and
Speaker 2: cleanse the way in our nature for us. So even
Speaker 2: the High Priest walking into the Holy of Holies on
Speaker 2: the day of Atonement is fulfilled in Jesus sending into
Speaker 2: the Tabernacle in Heaven. This covenant, as we read the
Speaker 2: Book of Hebrews, is confirmed with blood. The New Covenant
Speaker 2: is confirmed in the blood of the High Priest himself,
Speaker 2: the son of God. That's why Jesus is prophet, priest
Speaker 2: and King. And that's why this icon actually teaches you
Speaker 2: that All of Orthodox iconography teaches you our theology. So
Speaker 2: when you see this picture of Jesus as the Great
Speaker 2: High Priest, is that right there that is teaching you
Speaker 2: that He fulfills the triplicity of roles of the Old
Speaker 2: Testament prophet, priest, and king. All of those roles, the
Speaker 2: Old Testament prophets, the Old Testament priests, the Old Testament
Speaker 2: kings all point to Jesus. Did you know that in
Speaker 2: terms of the kingship, we look at Second Samuel seven,
Speaker 2: and this is the covenant that God makes with David.
Speaker 2: David is the next great typological figure that God makes
Speaker 2: a covenant with, which obviously points directly to Christ. Because
Speaker 2: once again we are told, through the seed of David,
Speaker 2: God will build a house. This great house will bless
Speaker 2: all the nations, and it will be through his descendant
Speaker 2: that this righteous seed comes. Now, remember, even Jews believe
Speaker 2: that all of these prophecies and predictions are of the Messiah.
Speaker 2: They just don't think it's Jesus. So all of Jewish theology,
Speaker 2: at least Messianic Jewish theology and classical Jewish theology, still
Speaker 2: believes that this is talking about the Messiah. They just
Speaker 2: don't think it's Jesus. But that's why the New Testament
Speaker 2: is so adamant to stress that Jesus is the descendant
Speaker 2: of Abraham and David, because the promise is to David,
Speaker 2: I will establish an eternal kingdom, an eternal house. My
Speaker 2: house will be through your son, and all of your
Speaker 2: sons will be my sons. Once again, just like with Abraham,
Speaker 2: it's not lineal descent, physical descent that is the ultimate
Speaker 2: determiner of this. There is a biological aspect in that
Speaker 2: Jesus really was the biological descendant of Abraham of David,
Speaker 2: and then he comes right to fulfill those promises. But
Speaker 2: it's also spiritual in that it has opened up to
Speaker 2: the Gentiles, and thus the Gentiles come into the Orthodox Church,
Speaker 2: which is the spiritual Israel. It is that simple. There
Speaker 2: is no other church in history in the first thousand
Speaker 2: years of Christianity other than the Orthodox Catholic Church. Therefore,
Speaker 2: it is the fulfillment of all these promises. And if
Speaker 2: other things deviate or go away, well, guess what happens.
Speaker 2: Covenant sanctions? What are covenant sanctions? Well, if we go
Speaker 2: back to Deuteronomy, God told the Israelites there are certain
Speaker 2: blessings in this relationship that we have, and in many
Speaker 2: passages throughout the Old Testament, God's relationship to Israel is
Speaker 2: pictured as a husband and a wife, as a man
Speaker 2: and his bride. Israel is the bride of God. That
Speaker 2: imagery comes to fulfillment in Christ. The Messiah Israel incarnate.
Speaker 2: Jesus is Israel incarnate out of Israel. I've called my
Speaker 2: son speaking of Jesus as Israel. The Church is the
Speaker 2: bride of Jesus, the bridegroom. There are covenant sanctions and
Speaker 2: covenant blessings, just like with all the covenants. If Abraham
Speaker 2: was disobedient, then he would not have inherited those promises.
Speaker 2: He was obedient through an active, living faith. That's why
Speaker 2: Paul says in Galatians, faith working through love is what counts,
Speaker 2: not empty dead faith, as James says. And so James
Speaker 2: and Paul are in harmony because Protestants don't read the
Speaker 2: rest of Galatians where Paul says that it has to
Speaker 2: be a faith working through love. So Paul's very clear
Speaker 2: what he means by a saving faith. It's the same
Speaker 2: thing James means Protestants just divorced this and create their
Speaker 2: own fictional legal categories to justify their stupid heresy. There's
Speaker 2: Covenant blessings and cursings. If you disobey, you get cursings.
Speaker 2: If you obey, you get blessings. Now, it is true
Speaker 2: that at the time of the Mosaic Covenant, the emphasis
Speaker 2: was on the physical, temporal blessings. Even still though at
Speaker 2: this time there are spiritual blessings, but God was utilizing
Speaker 2: temporal a temporal focus to each a spiritual pedagogical lesson.
Speaker 2: So even then they were supposed to understand you circumcisee
Speaker 2: your heart. That's why Jeremiah says, circumcise your heart. That's
Speaker 2: not invented in the New Testament. Jeremiah said that, in
Speaker 2: other words, even then circumcisis were supposed to teach you
Speaker 2: that it's the inner man that has to be changed.
Speaker 2: The only difference between the Covenant blessings here and what
Speaker 2: happens now is that the emphasis shifts. Whereas it was
Speaker 2: emphasized temporally at the Mosaic period, now that we're in
Speaker 2: the New Covenant, the emphasis switches to the spiritual emphasis.
Speaker 2: It still doesn't even mean that there's no temporal emphasis
Speaker 2: or blessing. If you're blessed, it's still from God.
Speaker 9: How do I know this?
Speaker 2: Where am I getting this blessings and cursings?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 2: Did you notice that when Jesus talks to the seven
Speaker 2: churches in Asia Minor, it's the same setup. It's blessings
Speaker 2: and cursings based on your disobedient in the New Covenant.
Speaker 2: If you obey, you will overcome. I will give you this.
Speaker 2: This this For example, those that claim to be Jews
Speaker 2: but are the Synagogue of Satan, they will you will get.
Speaker 2: They will be humiliated before you if you obey me
Speaker 2: to the compromising Church of Pergamos. If you do not repent,
Speaker 2: I will come against you and fight against you with
Speaker 2: the spirit of my mouth, the sword of my mouth,
Speaker 2: again showing that the idiot premillennial view that the sword
Speaker 2: that precedes out of his mouth is not the Second Coming.
Speaker 2: It's the Covenant, curses and blessings in the preaching of
Speaker 2: the Gospel, even in the Book of Revelation itself. However,
Speaker 2: if at Pergamos you are faithful, I will give you
Speaker 2: of the hidden Manna. I will give you a white stone.
Speaker 2: You will get certain blessings for obedience. If you are disobedient,
Speaker 2: you will undergo the curses. Blessings and curses in the
Speaker 2: New Testament applied to the churches, the New Covenant people.
Speaker 2: In other words, it's the bride bridegroom relationship, and it's
Speaker 2: covenantal and it's blessings and cursings based on whether you're
Speaker 2: faithful or unfaithful to the covenant. It is no different,
Speaker 2: same relationship. Notice here, if you do not repent and
Speaker 2: continue to do the things that you're doing over here
Speaker 2: at Thia Tyra, I will come against you with disease
Speaker 2: and death, Jesus saying I'm gonna come kill you, not
Speaker 2: physically directly, but he will send a disease and death
Speaker 2: the same way he sent disease and death on the
Speaker 2: disobedient Israelites bopr. Exactly what Deuteronomy said. If you disobey,
Speaker 2: you get death and curses. If you obey, you will win.
Speaker 2: You will dominate your enemies, and perhaps even in this life.
Speaker 2: That's why the Church was so powerful and victorious for
Speaker 2: so many years and for so many centuries. And then
Speaker 2: when you become like the world, you undergo covenant cursings
Speaker 2: and you are weak and you are trampled on. You
Speaker 2: can either dominate your opponents through divine power if you're faithful,
Speaker 2: or you will be dominated and perhaps even killed. This
Speaker 2: is no different than the blessings and cursings of Deuteronomy.
Speaker 2: It's just a difference of emphasis. In fact, you're even
Speaker 2: worn that which one is it? One of them says,
Speaker 2: he says, I will take away your lampstand, so you
Speaker 2: won't even be in the covenant anymore. You will be
Speaker 2: removed blessings and cursings. Revelation two and three applied identically
Speaker 2: the same as Deuteronomy and limitic at twenty six. Now
Speaker 2: again the emphasis is different, so it is more spiritually focused. Now,
Speaker 2: but you'll notice, did Jesus say, oh, I will not
Speaker 2: come with physical death. No, he said physical death and sickness.
Speaker 2: Paul says, if you come to the Eucharist and you
Speaker 2: eat unworthily, some of you are now dead physical death
Speaker 2: through transgressing, transgressing the covenant the covenant meal duh, So
Speaker 2: what does this mean? This means that the Church is Israel.
Speaker 2: It is the true Israel. Paul calls it the Israel
Speaker 2: of God Galatians six sixteen as many as you walk
Speaker 2: according to his rule his teaching, Peace be upon you
Speaker 2: and upon the Israel of God. The Church is the
Speaker 2: Israel of God. In fact, Jesus makes this so abundantly
Speaker 2: clear in Matthew twenty one in the parable, it's kind
Speaker 2: of amazing that anyone doesn't believe this. When the owner
Speaker 2: of the vineyard comes, what will he do to the
Speaker 2: vine dressers? That's the Jews. Now he will destroy them.
Speaker 2: Have you not read the scripture? The stone that the
Speaker 2: builders rejected, Jesus is the stone the Jews are rejecting
Speaker 2: him has become the cornerstone. Therefore, the Kingdom of God
Speaker 2: will be taken from you and given to a nation
Speaker 2: producing the first threat. That's the Gentiles. He's just using
Speaker 2: the word nation to symbolize or reference all of the
Speaker 2: other gentiles that would come in. This nation that he's
Speaker 2: talking about is his kingdom, the Church, wherein he says you,
Speaker 2: my apostles will sit on twelve thrones judging the twelve
Speaker 2: tribes of Israel. That's the Church Romans eleven. Wait a minute,
Speaker 2: but what about promises to Jews and the Old Testament Israelites.
Speaker 2: Salvation has come upon the gentiles to eventually provoke Jews
Speaker 2: to convert. That's the whole point. If Jews failing in
Speaker 2: their mission means that salvation is opened up to the Gentiles,
Speaker 2: well how much better will it be when they convert?
Speaker 2: How that is and when that is we don't know,
Speaker 2: but they will convert. We're told that. Paul says, I'm
Speaker 2: speaking to gentiles because I am an apostle to the gentiles.
Speaker 2: If the casting away of the Jews out of the
Speaker 2: Covenant results providentially in the reconciling of the Gentiles to God,
Speaker 2: then what will it be when they accept Christ except
Speaker 2: life from the dead. For if the first fruit is holy,
Speaker 2: the lump is holy, the root is holies for the branches,
Speaker 2: some of the branches are broken off so that Gentiles
Speaker 2: could be grafted in. That is not dual covenant. That
Speaker 2: is one tree, one branch, one covenant, and grafted in
Speaker 2: or grafted out. That the imagery refutes dual covenant theology,
Speaker 2: heresy of dispensationalism. You Gentiles and Rome will say, but
Speaker 2: the Jewish branches were broken off, that I could be
Speaker 2: grafted in. Okay, but do not be arrogant, but fear
Speaker 2: if God did not spare the natural branches, he may
Speaker 2: not spare you. Oh wait a minute, I thought the
Speaker 2: Church of Rome is indefectible. Isn't it interesting that providentially
Speaker 2: Paul gives us warning too. The Church of Rome, which
Speaker 2: became haughty and ended up rejected. Rome had its lamp
Speaker 2: stand removed, exactly as was predicted for the other churches
Speaker 2: in Revelation that are disobedient. Paul is providentially saying this
Speaker 2: to the Church at Rome, that they will be haughty
Speaker 2: and arrogant. Beware if you continue Church of Rome in
Speaker 2: God's goodness, otherwise you will be cut off. Oh but
Speaker 2: wait a minute. Did Paul not know about Vatican One
Speaker 2: that it's impossible for the Roman see to defect. It
Speaker 2: can never be cut off. How ridiculous is Roman Catholic
Speaker 2: nonsense theology? In regard to what Paul says, clear as day,
Speaker 2: blindness has happened to the Jews until the fullness of
Speaker 2: the Gentiles comes in. And then he goes on to
Speaker 2: say that in God's providence there will be a conversion
Speaker 2: of the Jews and they will come to Christ. How
Speaker 2: and when that is we don't know, but God will
Speaker 2: remove the veil over their heart at some point, and
Speaker 2: the Church father's comment on this and almost all of
Speaker 2: than to talk about this admit, yes, there is a
Speaker 2: future conversion of the Jews. So there's a lot of
Speaker 2: dumb heresies to avoid here. We're not pre millennialists, we're
Speaker 2: not pre triped goobers. We don't worship the socialist nation
Speaker 2: state of Israel, which is founded as an atheistic, pantheistic,
Speaker 2: nonsense state. It's a geopolitical entity, doesn't have anything to
Speaker 2: do with this. Jews as a people group, as a
Speaker 2: religious people group, well, at some future point become Orthodox Christians.
Speaker 2: How and when we don't know, but Paul is saying
Speaker 2: that that will happen in the future when the Gentiles
Speaker 2: have finished coming in, and I think this might even
Speaker 2: This is my speculation, so don't quote me on this
Speaker 2: as all jays and things. He's a church faver. My
Speaker 2: speculation is that the largely majority Gentile church will actually
Speaker 2: apostatize and at some point the Jews will be grafted
Speaker 2: back in as converts to Orthodox Christians. That's my speculation.
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but it seems to line up
Speaker 2: with the patterns that Paul talks about here. Now, all
Speaker 2: of that is one hundred percent contrary to the dispensationless narrative.
Speaker 2: For example, there are many passages that talk about and
Speaker 2: we'll look at a couple of them, God enforcing the
Speaker 2: covenant sanctions to divorce Israel. Now, wait a minute, how
Speaker 2: does God keep his promise of I will never leave you,
Speaker 2: forsake you. You are Israel, I will always love you,
Speaker 2: you are my beloved, et cetera, et cetera, but also
Speaker 2: prophecies and predictions of the divorce of Israel. Hmmm, what
Speaker 2: we saw on Matthew twenty one forty three, Jesus is
Speaker 2: referring to that divorce. The Kingdom of God will be
Speaker 2: taken away from you. Oh man, how long was that muted?
Speaker 2: Sometimes I hit that button? How long was that mute? Twenty? Okay, Well,
Speaker 2: basically I just argue that Jeremiah thirty one, I'll clip
Speaker 2: this and you can clip it out in the edit.
Speaker 2: Jeremiah thirty one talks about a new covenant, and it's
Speaker 2: a covenant on the heart, and it is not like
Speaker 2: the Covenant with Moses, and Jeremiah thirty three refers all
Speaker 2: to the Abrahamic and the Noek and the Davidic all together.
Speaker 2: Other and it says that David will have a descendant
Speaker 2: called the Lord our Righteousness, who will sit on the throne.
Speaker 2: So my argument was that, wait a minute, when did
Speaker 2: God fulfill this promise to David in Jeremiah thirty three
Speaker 2: that there would never lack a descendant of David on
Speaker 2: the throne. After seventy a d there have been no
Speaker 2: Davidic Jewish kings. So did God fail in this promise?
Speaker 2: If you are a Christian, this is fulfilled in the
Speaker 2: ascension of Christ, Christ ascended Psalm one ten, Sit in
Speaker 2: my right hand till I make your enemies your footstool.
Speaker 2: Thus there has never lacked a descendant of David on
Speaker 2: the throne because the Lord our Righteousness ascended and sat
Speaker 2: on the truth throne. Do you understand what we're saying?
Speaker 2: The Lord said to my Lord, sit in my right
Speaker 2: hand until I make your enemies your footstool. The Lord
Speaker 2: will send the rod of your strength out of Zion
Speaker 2: rule in the midst of your enemies. That is the Church.
Speaker 2: You didn't know that. Where does the New Testament cite
Speaker 2: when the When the New Testament cites Psalm one not anymore?
Speaker 8: H Uh?
Speaker 2: I didn't realize some people are saying Psalm one ten
Speaker 2: is the most quoted in the New Testament. I actually
Speaker 2: know that, but it's many times over. You'll notice it
Speaker 2: is referring to the ascension. Sit sit am I right
Speaker 2: in until make your enemies your footstool. All the evangelical
Speaker 2: heretics and goobers postpone that to the end of the world. Oh,
Speaker 2: that's when Jesus comes back, It sets up his timple,
Speaker 2: and we have animal sacrifices again, and we have a millennium.
Speaker 2: Then why does the Book of Acts cite this about
Speaker 2: the ascension? What are you talking about? And Acts two
Speaker 2: thirty four and thirty five David did not ascend into
Speaker 2: the heaven. The Lord said it, my lord, sit in
Speaker 2: my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool. Therefore,
Speaker 2: let all the house of Israel know that God has
Speaker 2: made Jesus Lord. So Psalm one ten is not the
Speaker 2: end of the world, it's the ascension. Do you know
Speaker 2: what the ascension is? I mentioned the processes. Don't even
Speaker 2: know what we're talking about. That's when Jesus ascended after
Speaker 2: the resurrection, the beginning of the you never read it's
Speaker 2: beg of the Book of Acts. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: How am I getting Protestantism wrong? I was a Protestant,
Speaker 2: I went to Protestant Bible college, Protestant seminary. I'm not
Speaker 2: getting anything wrong about Protestantism. I know it better than
Speaker 2: you do. I guarantee you. Jess White, what's up? Became
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Speaker 2: I was Chris made of the serving Orthodox Church. Jay,
Speaker 2: Thank you appreciate that, super chat. Glad to hear that
Speaker 2: you were Chris mated. It was your debates against the
Speaker 2: Protestants that actually converted me to Orthodoxy. That's good to hear.
Speaker 2: Man many years Nick. He gifted five memberships Narissa, twenty dollars.
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Speaker 2: on the road doing events and whatnot. Haven't had any
Speaker 2: time for that, but I will look at it. Narissa
Speaker 2: Jones ten dollars where do you find all these fire jams?
Speaker 2: I just whatever popped up in the algorithm that I
Speaker 2: found that I found that I could use. But thank
Speaker 2: you so much, Haley. In the chat ten dollars, what's up?
Speaker 2: Josiah Eleround twenty dollars, Austin Alvarez five dollars stubborn dispensationless
Speaker 2: refute Jay by saying, no, uh, I mean, I've never
Speaker 2: had an actual decent dispensations call in. Does do you
Speaker 2: do one of you want to call in? I mean,
Speaker 2: so the problem with the new microphone is that if
Speaker 2: you touch it, it has a censor based touch thing,
Speaker 2: and I can't actually see on the other side of it.
Speaker 2: So if I if my hand grazes it, it will
Speaker 2: mute anyway. At least we're not having all the choppy audio, right.
Speaker 2: At least the audio is good. Bobby c says, if
Speaker 2: you get protestantsm wrong because you're committing the mute fallacy.
Speaker 2: Caleb of ten dollars. I was raised Baptist, and I
Speaker 2: was taught that the circumcision where baptism were done to
Speaker 2: show the world our faith, not that there were any
Speaker 2: interaction with Christ. Yeah, I know, I mean I was
Speaker 2: raised Baptist. Bro I know Peter said, repent to be
Speaker 2: baptized the name of Jesus Christ for the mission of
Speaker 2: your sins, and you will receive the spirit. This promise,
Speaker 2: this is the covenant promise of Abraham is to you
Speaker 2: and your children. And they guess what. Immediately after that,
Speaker 2: a bunch of people get baptized in water. Three thousand
Speaker 2: people were water baptized that day. So there's no need
Speaker 2: to complicate things that are not actually complicated. Ah, Brosey,
Speaker 2: five dollars. I'm a paulologizing now for all the times
Speaker 2: that I've tagged you and the apply to James Lindsay,
Speaker 2: the Babylon b the Nash. I mean, they're never going
Speaker 2: to debate. I've been trying forever. I've asked Lindsay for
Speaker 2: years to debate. It's broseie five dollars. People in the
Speaker 2: chat don't use Elon's platform. I want you to understand
Speaker 2: Jay's not lying when you said that nobody accept the
Speaker 2: debate on this topic.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean we were like going back and forth with
Speaker 2: Danesh Desuzo and he won't debate because their page shows Dude,
Speaker 2: I mean it's not even like it's everybody knows this.
Speaker 2: Now that these people are like, I mean, let me
Speaker 2: just show you how ridiculous this is. Let's go to
Speaker 2: John Hagen. I mean, there's a lot more that could
Speaker 2: be said on you know, biblical covenant and lectures. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have to move on to the dispensations, so we're
Speaker 2: never gonna get to it. All of that sets the
Speaker 2: stage hopefully to show you that the New Testament.
Speaker 3: Uh, what is it?
Speaker 2: Paul says, it's secretly is one twenty. All the promises
Speaker 2: of God, that's covenant promises are yes in Christ. So
Speaker 2: it's one covenant. They're all in Christ. It's not chopped
Speaker 2: up into seven different schizo plans. For example, the dispensationalists
Speaker 2: goofball teaching, and I mean, just look at the face
Speaker 2: of this dude, who is the dispensational representative here? Exactly
Speaker 2: what you would expect. The plan of God in history
Speaker 2: is chopped up into a bunch of different Plan B,
Speaker 2: Plan C, Plan D, et cetera. God created man, and
Speaker 2: he gave a covenant of works with Adam, and Adam failed,
Speaker 2: and so God established this next covenant called the Covenant
Speaker 2: of Conscience with canaan Abel who knows where Darby and
Speaker 2: Schofield got this. They just made it up. That failed,
Speaker 2: and so they gave Noah the covenant of human government.
Speaker 2: That's what you heard me referring to. With Noah having
Speaker 2: the ability to exact the death penalty. That didn't do well,
Speaker 2: and so God called out Abraham and gave him a promise.
Speaker 2: And the promise of Abraham is a one sided, not
Speaker 2: works based covenant, a covenant of grace. And that's contrasted
Speaker 2: to the covenant with Moses, which is a covenant of works.
Speaker 2: And so some dispensation. Let's actually believe that you could
Speaker 2: be saved by doing good works and keeping the Mosaic Covenant.
Speaker 2: That's that stupid. But what they don't realize is that
Speaker 2: Paul says that the Gospel was preached to Abraham Glatians
Speaker 2: three eight Scripture for seeing that God would justify the
Speaker 2: Gentiles by faith, preach the Gospel to Abraham, saying in
Speaker 2: you all the nations shall be blessed. That means, contrary
Speaker 2: to what idiot Trent Horn said, they actually believed in
Speaker 2: the Trinity. They actually believed in Jesus. There's no way
Speaker 2: to be saved other than Jesus. The only difference is
Speaker 2: that Abraham didn't just look forward to him. I mean
Speaker 2: he did, but Abraham knew him. Because when you study
Speaker 2: the Theophanes and you understand that Abraham is eating with Jesus,
Speaker 2: now you see, oh, that's how he worships the Trinity.
Speaker 2: He met Jesus in person. In fact, that is the
Speaker 2: Orthodox Catholic teaching. Trent Horn doesn't even know that his
Speaker 2: stupid heresy of denying the belief in the Trinity in
Speaker 2: the Old Testament makes him an Aran and a Muslim.
Speaker 2: What does sat Maximus say? Same Maximus Confessor taught that
Speaker 2: Abraham believed in and worshiped the Trinity. God appeared to Abraham,
Speaker 2: who was perfetent knowledge and who already possessed an intellect
Speaker 2: completely beyond matter ins figurations. God taught him that the
Speaker 2: immaterial principle of the Trinity, and here's in the principle
Speaker 2: of its unity. For this reason, God to appeared to
Speaker 2: Abraham as three and spoke as one. We've done countless
Speaker 2: lectures on the Theophanes and the Trinity in the Old Testament,
Speaker 2: and if you don't get it at this point, you're
Speaker 2: not gonna get it. Go watch my videos on that.
Speaker 2: Now back to the dispensations. Well, these things kept failing,
Speaker 2: and so once the law covenant failed, God decided to
Speaker 2: bring a covenant of grace for Gentiles. I'm owner to
Speaker 2: the Covenant of Grace. Wait a minute, something is sounding
Speaker 2: fishy here. Did you know that John Hagy wrote a
Speaker 2: book that Jesus is not a child? No, but Jesus
Speaker 2: is not shi Yes, you heard me right. Listen.
Speaker 11: I'm delighted to present my latest book, in Defense of Israel.
Speaker 11: This book will have the sins of the fathers and
Speaker 11: the vicious abuse of the Jewish people, and Defense of
Speaker 11: Israel will shape Christian theology. It scripturally proves that the
Speaker 11: Jewish people as a whole did not reject Jesus as Messiah.
Speaker 11: It will also prove that Jesus did not come to
Speaker 11: Earth to be the Messiah. It will prove that there
Speaker 11: was a Calvary conspiracy between Rome, the High Priest, and
Speaker 11: Herod to execute Jesus.
Speaker 2: Do you hear that Jesus is not the Messiah? I think,
Speaker 2: by the way, there was rumors that allegedly he even
Speaker 2: had to pull this book because it was so controversial.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if you did or.
Speaker 11: Not as an insurrectionist, too dangerous to live. Since Jesus
Speaker 11: refused by word indeed to claim to be the Messiah.
Speaker 2: Did you hear that this idiot actually said Jesus refused
Speaker 2: to claim to be a Messiah. And there are millions
Speaker 2: of people that believe this idiotic heretic It's kind of unreal.
Speaker 11: How can the Jews be blamed for rejecting what was
Speaker 11: never offered? Read it in the shocking explosa and defense
Speaker 11: of his reay.
Speaker 2: That is dispensationalism in its essence right there now. As
Speaker 2: you saw here, the last Covenant is the the thousand
Speaker 2: year kingdom after the tribulation. So none of this exists
Speaker 2: anywhere in church history except in Schofield and Darby and
Speaker 2: their heretical study Bible. And in fact even mainline academia
Speaker 2: has actually studied Untermeyer's financing of Schofield and the rise
Speaker 2: of the of Christian Zionism. And a great article on
Speaker 2: this that you can read is James Pearloff, who has
Speaker 2: been writing about this for about ten years now. James
Speaker 2: Pearloff wrote a great piece. It's a chapter in one
Speaker 2: of his books, but it goes into quite a lot
Speaker 2: of detail about the history of Schofield being promoted for
Speaker 2: the British imperial interest, with the establishment of the nation
Speaker 2: state of Israel, with the Balfour Declaration. All of that
Speaker 2: comes up, the funding from Samuel Untermeyer, which I've talked
Speaker 2: about as well for a long time. And I mean
Speaker 2: we've done many many podcasts on this. This is not
Speaker 2: even really this is shouldn't be controversial. It should be
Speaker 2: pretty well known by now. There's also if you look,
Speaker 2: if you want more detail on Scofield himself, Father John
Speaker 2: Whiteford and Buck did a dispensational talk here. It's really good.
Speaker 2: No Jews I can say. I would say, go check
Speaker 2: out the heresy of dispensationalism with Father John Whiteford and
Speaker 2: bub Johnson up here at Counterflow. I'll put this in
Speaker 2: the chat for you. And although today we focused a
Speaker 2: lot more on the biblical continuity of the covenants, that
Speaker 2: will actually go a lot deeper into Schofield himself and
Speaker 2: how he was a con man and all this nonsense
Speaker 2: behind him. But I want to also remind you guys
Speaker 2: that man I can't type what is the Kingdom of God?
Speaker 2: In Luke seventeen twenty one, Jesus says, they will not
Speaker 2: say see here or see there, For indeed the Kingdom
Speaker 2: of God is within you. When he talked to Peter,
Speaker 2: he said, blessed are you, Simon Barjona. Right on this rock,
Speaker 2: I will build my church, and the gates of Hell
Speaker 2: will not prevail against it. I will give you the
Speaker 2: keys to the Kingdom of Heaven. Peter has an office
Speaker 2: of exercising the keys of the Kingdom. How is this
Speaker 2: possible if the Kingdom is a two thousand year later,
Speaker 2: three thousand year later future reality. Obviously, the Kingdom is
Speaker 2: the Church. It is identified as the Church many times over.
Speaker 2: The Kingdom is the Church. It is the Holy Nation,
Speaker 2: the royal priesthood one Peter two. It is the new
Speaker 2: Jerusalem coming down out of heaven that Paul says is
Speaker 2: a present reality in Galatians four. We are the children
Speaker 2: of Promise, like Isaac, the children of the Jerusalem above,
Speaker 2: the heavenly Jerusalem, Mother Church right there, the Mother of
Speaker 2: us all Galatians four twenty six. Mother Church, present reality,
Speaker 2: not an eschatological, end times postponed thing. Now, it's an
Speaker 2: already not yet, it's not in its fullness in the
Speaker 2: sense of like evil being destroyed and all that. But
Speaker 2: it has come in its reality and in its power
Speaker 2: in the Church. Thus, if you want to see the
Speaker 2: Kingdom of God, did you know you can go down
Speaker 2: the road and see it. This is the fountain of Immortality.
Speaker 2: It is then of God on earth.
Speaker 6: Right here the sacrifice is being made. Priest exhorts us
Speaker 6: to give thanks to God for the whole world, for
Speaker 6: the past, in the present, for all that has taken place,
Speaker 6: and for all that will take place in the future.
Speaker 6: This thanksgiving of ours liberates us from earth and transports
Speaker 6: us to Heaven, transforms us from humans into angels.
Speaker 10: To Christianity. By her eunuch servant, she had this space
Speaker 10: built in the cemetery her family owned. We can clearly
Speaker 10: see the sanctuary where the altar would have been as
Speaker 10: separated from the nave, indicating a purpose that is set
Speaker 10: aside or holy for those who ad minister there.
Speaker 2: Everyone who is new to all this should watch the
Speaker 2: Orthodox Shahada documentary, the classic that Kai and Lewis put
Speaker 2: together over here at Orthodox Shata. It is an absolutely
Speaker 2: necessary watch because it connects the churches reality based, heavenly
Speaker 2: based worship, which is what John is seeing in Revelation
Speaker 2: five through nine, which we have covered ad nauseum, when
Speaker 2: John looks into heaven and he sees in chapters five
Speaker 2: through nine, vestiments and liturgy and incense, and the prayers
Speaker 2: of the saints being offered by the angels, and the
Speaker 2: martyrs under the altar, praying for the Church on earth,
Speaker 2: and the Lamb slain bleeding in heaven, et cetera. All
Speaker 2: of those things are images that are the reality that
Speaker 2: we have in the Orthodox Christian worship. That's our view,
Speaker 2: that's our interpretation. It's not all at the end of
Speaker 2: the world. The end of the world is now. That's
Speaker 2: why the New Testament, the Book of Acts says what
Speaker 2: Joel's describing as the last Days has come upon us
Speaker 2: at Pentecos and Acts two, it.
Speaker 10: Is speculated that there would have been some form of
Speaker 10: curtain or veil across the same to emphasize this separation.
Speaker 10: Then we can see the bishop's throne, which has its
Speaker 10: mirroring in the seat of Moses as the seat of
Speaker 10: the one who is highest in honor.
Speaker 2: So you know, under saying that this is all out
Speaker 2: of the Old Testament. All of these idiots, the Muslims,
Speaker 2: the Protestant evangelical iconoclastic heretics. They think this is all pagan.
Speaker 2: They're totally ignorant of their own text, not realizing that
Speaker 2: all this comes out of the Old Testament.
Speaker 10: As well as the inheritance of an ecclesiastical authority. Matthew
Speaker 10: twenty three, verses one to two might give us an
Speaker 10: indication of the existence of this tradition. Where Christ speaks
Speaker 10: of the Pharisees who sit in the seat of Moses
Speaker 10: and requiring obedience of the people to them, we will
Speaker 10: note the beamer has retained its place, now called the ambon.
Speaker 10: Here we see the contracted form, but in this three
Speaker 10: D recreation of the original Hagia Sophia cathedral design we
Speaker 10: see a much larger ambon located in the center of
Speaker 10: the nave, from which the readings of the sacred Text
Speaker 10: would be done. Here is a clip from a synagogue
Speaker 10: of a rabbi bringing the Torah out from the arc,
Speaker 10: followed by a clip of another rabbi reading the Torah,
Speaker 10: and then a clip of another rabbi showing the Torah
Speaker 10: to the congregation after the reading. Unfortunately, they have to
Speaker 10: be three different chopped up clips because it was extremely
Speaker 10: difficult to find even remotely decent quality footage of traditional
Speaker 10: synagogue worship.
Speaker 9: As in Show My Bed or where is mav.
Speaker 8: Of Co.
Speaker 12: Moderately keep the tora straight and lift it up high,
Speaker 12: show it to the entire congregation, turning both to your
Speaker 12: right and then to your left.
Speaker 10: I will now show a clip from an Orthodox church
Speaker 10: which follows the exact same pattern. The Gospel is brought
Speaker 10: out of the arc or altar in the sanctuary, the
Speaker 10: readings are done at the ambon, and then the Gospel
Speaker 10: is shown to the congregation in a blessing.
Speaker 2: Form to worship it.
Speaker 6: Come back.
Speaker 3: At Jesus after some days.
Speaker 10: Just for a brief aside, this video is not intended
Speaker 10: or purposed to defend the validity of having images in
Speaker 10: the church. However, I would like you to look at
Speaker 10: this image of the Duo Europos Synagogue, and we can
Speaker 10: clearly see that there are many images and depictions of
Speaker 10: Old Testament events within the synagogue along the walls. These
Speaker 10: would be in effect icons. Now I would like to
Speaker 10: quote from Louis Boulleer's page twenty seven. He says the
Speaker 10: following quote. When the Duo Europos Synagogue was discovered and
Speaker 10: its frescoes could be admired. It seemed to be an
Speaker 10: exception in contradiction to Jewish iconoclasm. Actually, as Eleazar Sukenik
Speaker 10: in his study on the ancient synagogues shows, the Duo
Speaker 10: Europos Synagogue is an exception only because of the unique
Speaker 10: preservation of its decor, but in practically all of the
Speaker 10: ancient synagogues there are vestiges of a very similar decoration,
Speaker 10: we must conclude. He emphasizes that it was only at
Speaker 10: a late date, and out of an undoubted reaction against Christianity,
Speaker 10: that the synagogues came to forbid any figurative ornamentation unquote. Again,
Speaker 10: we see that God does care about these things, since
Speaker 10: he goes into such elaborate detail and even warns that
Speaker 10: if the priests do not wear certain items of clothing
Speaker 10: upon ministering, that they will die. We will also note
Speaker 10: that God spares absolutely no expense when it comes to
Speaker 10: making his worship lavish and beautiful. Christian use of vestments
Speaker 10: developed after the liturgical contraction, as the Church began to
Speaker 10: express herself more freely and fully after the persecution. When
Speaker 10: the bishop is vested traditionally by minor clergy as a
Speaker 10: sign of humility. A prayer is said when he puts
Speaker 10: on each piece. So concludes the analysis of continuity between
Speaker 10: church structure and items. We will now move on to
Speaker 10: the liturgical worship itself, some of its components, meaning, and
Speaker 10: the continuity it has with the Old Testament. I must
Speaker 10: again stress that this video can only cover so much.
Speaker 10: It is only scratching the surface of the typology and
Speaker 10: the symbolism found within the liturgy. Let us now turn
Speaker 10: to the structure of the Divine Liturgy itself. Although not
Speaker 10: so strictly divided, the liturgy has two halves. The first
Speaker 10: half is the Liturgy of the ctcumans. Catacumans are people
Speaker 10: who are undergoing instruction in the Christian faith before being
Speaker 10: received into the Church by baptism or chrismation. The second
Speaker 10: half is the Liturgy of the faithful. If we recall
Speaker 10: the structure.
Speaker 2: We're not going to watch all of the Lewis and
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Speaker 1: No to what?
Speaker 2: Probably I mean, I'm not trying to be rude, but
Speaker 2: I mean probably not worthodoxy. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: what what's he going to convert to? Thank you guys
Speaker 2: a lot of fun tonight. We're not done yet. I'll
Speaker 2: take your questions. Nobody has any questions on this James
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Speaker 2: know what that means. Sounds like Marxism's permanent revolution. Is
Speaker 2: there connection between these things? I just think it's, you know, Protestants,
Speaker 2: it's the logic of Protestantism that you have to constantly
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Speaker 2: there's no belief that the church is a supernatural institution
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Speaker 2: split into Kabalistic third Temple? Is that Orthodox Jews maintaining
Speaker 2: Old Testament Judaism. I'm not sure what you mean by split.
Speaker 2: I mean Rabbinic Judaism is all over the place, so
Speaker 2: there's as many different Jews as there are the Jewish
Speaker 2: theology as there are Jews. So I don't know what
Speaker 2: you mean by the split off. If you mean that,
Speaker 2: I mean Kabbala could even be just mysticism that doesn't
Speaker 2: even care about a temple. So I think there's it's
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Speaker 2: anonymous super chat was me, I never talked about you.
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Speaker 2: forward to seeing you. It is of course sold out,
Speaker 2: which is exciting. We are getting numbers up there close
Speaker 2: to the Ludwell numbers. I'm new to the church and
Speaker 2: the topics that you'll be covering. Do you recommend any
Speaker 2: videos or reading before it? I mean it's going to
Speaker 2: be quite a wide variety of speakers, Jamie. We'll be
Speaker 2: talking about ancient pagan religions and occultism. Doctor David Patrick
Speaker 2: Harry will be talking about like transhumanism and that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff that you can intern. Iye, so'll be talking
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Speaker 2: Orthodox iconography. I will be talking about logos theology. So
Speaker 2: I don't think you really have to do like any
Speaker 2: necessary reading ahead of time, really, just you know, continue
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Speaker 2: five dollars. My message is too long. Can you find
Speaker 2: it in the live chat? It's about salvation and anthropomorphic language. Scrolling, scrolling, scrolling,
Speaker 2: I mean you can only scroll back so far. Bro,
Speaker 2: Why aren't you just calling on the next live and
Speaker 2: ask me in in the X spaces Now we didn't
Speaker 2: really get into, hopefully what you see in tonight's discussion
Speaker 2: was maybe this will be a part one of dismissasions
Speaker 2: because we didn't really get into like the geopolitical stuff.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll do a separate stream covering James Pearloff's articles.
Speaker 2: But tonight's discussion was really about Quevinant theology and the
Speaker 2: unification of God's plan. Now, if you don't know, I
Speaker 2: did a talk years ago that will cover I think
Speaker 2: this one covers h predictions in the Old Testament of
Speaker 2: the Gentile Church. This one, I forget which I think
Speaker 2: this one covers trend into the Old Testament, but I
Speaker 2: think I'm referring to this one. I don't know why
Speaker 2: it's titled that, because it doesn't really happen to do
Speaker 2: with what I think. What I argue here is that
Speaker 2: the Gentile Church is also kind of a way to
Speaker 2: see prophecies being fulfilled and therefore proof for the scriptures.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think so. But we also talked
Speaker 2: about church fathers back then too, So this is old
Speaker 2: school here. This is eight years ago. Wow. But a
Speaker 2: lot of the questions that you guys have will also
Speaker 2: be answered eight years ago in that podcast or that video.
Speaker 2: Gainers Oulton dollars. Why do English translation capitalize capitalize the
Speaker 2: G in Athanasius's quote he was made man so that
Speaker 2: man might be made God. Other translations have the G lowercase.
Speaker 2: I don't know, probably, I don't think there's anything to it.
Speaker 2: If you're going to talk about my facial hair, I'm
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Speaker 2: five dollars. Get Jamie to organize your playlist? What playlist
Speaker 2: you mean on my channel? Nobody ever pays attention to
Speaker 2: those anyway, There's literally no one pays attention to playlists
Speaker 2: on the channel. You think, oh, I'll make these playlists,
Speaker 2: they'll be organized. No no one ever looks at them,
Speaker 2: no one ever goes to them. It doesn't matter how
Speaker 2: organized it is, that they're never used. Like, I've had
Speaker 2: this same stuff here for seven years, and I get
Speaker 2: the same questions, where are your debates? Where did you
Speaker 2: do public formal debates with anybody? You mean the giant
Speaker 2: playlist of that, So there really is no point because
Speaker 2: no one actually pays attention to the playlist. It's just
Speaker 2: everyone's retarded like and share and again. I will probably
Speaker 2: make this into a series, right, This will be like
Speaker 2: a part one, then we'll do a part two and
Speaker 2: a part three because we only kind of got into
Speaker 2: the unity of the Covenant to refute dispensationalism, and we're
Speaker 2: going to have to go into the geopolitical side of
Speaker 2: it as well, which we covered in my Twitter space.
Speaker 2: So we've been doing NonStop Twitter spaces when I'm on
Speaker 2: the road. I forgot to mention too, you know, as
Speaker 2: we kind of get into that domain. There is quite
Speaker 2: a bit that we can go into in regard to
Speaker 2: why did the Boomer evangelicals worship Israel? Well, this psyop
Speaker 2: comes from hucksters like Hal Lindsay, who promoted the dispensational
Speaker 2: heresy to millions of people in the nineteen seventies. The
Speaker 2: book treats Gog and Magog as Cold War villains and
Speaker 2: the enemies of quote Israel. The same huckster then tried
Speaker 2: to predict the Rapture in nineteen eighty eight. It should
Speaker 2: be obvious that this is a toe retard to heresy
Speaker 2: and part of Cold War syops, that's how Lindsay's late
Speaker 2: Great Planet Earth, and then how Lindsay's book The Rapture.
Speaker 2: So I mean, you can't make this stuff up. But
Speaker 2: that's why so many of the boomer evangelicals are just
Speaker 2: basically mind controlled into this position and you can't even
Speaker 2: argue them out of it. They just can't even like
Speaker 2: it's just locked into their mind. Dude, right wing nouck
Speaker 2: fourteen dollars? Do you have an extensive book list saved anywhere?
Speaker 2: I used to have a booklest on the website the past.
Speaker 2: Twitter live streams are on my Twitter, bro. I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to be impatient, but it's like, if.
Speaker 13: You just scroll down, there's one right there. Today, scroll down,
Speaker 13: there's one right there.
Speaker 2: That was last night. By the way, I tell you that,
Speaker 2: I'm at the Chick from Hell Raiser. This is me
Speaker 2: with Ashley Lawrence from Hell Raiser, and then we were
Speaker 2: at the boof at the booth with the chick from Subspecies.
Speaker 2: So basically we were hanging out with B movie actresses
Speaker 2: and Hell Raiser chick, which was fun. It was a blast,
Speaker 2: and I think Jamie had the best costume. What do
Speaker 2: you guys think? So Jamie went as Shelley from Twin Peaks.
Speaker 2: As you can see, this was.
Speaker 6: Legit.
Speaker 2: This was spot on. Look at that perfect dude. Here's
Speaker 2: Shelley even had a coffee pot. Look at that boom.
Speaker 2: Best costume ever for Halloween right there. The the book
Speaker 2: list was all janky, dude, it looked like trash. So
Speaker 2: the book lists that have to just be completely reworked,
Speaker 2: and I just haven't had the time and the energy
Speaker 2: to rework it, so that's why I took it down.
Speaker 2: But I mean, we have a giant pds PDF list
Speaker 2: in the Discord. We're reviving the Discord. We've been doing
Speaker 2: Discord talks, so look forward to that. Thank you guys.
Speaker 2: A lot of fun tonight. I think we're gona have
Speaker 2: to make it a series, so this will be part
Speaker 2: one and then we'll get into the history of dispensationalism,
Speaker 2: the Calvary Chapel movement and all that in the next stream.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys.