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<v Speaker 1>You see, something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take one? What a.

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<v Speaker 2>Help?

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<v Speaker 1>That's up everybody, We are alive. It is Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 1>I got my co host Nick here with me. How

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<v Speaker 1>is it going? Nick?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, thank you very much, appreciate it

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<v Speaker 2>is that an interesting experience with the Menora and it's

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<v Speaker 2>good to be on the show. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Very interesting experience. Uh yeah, So what did you learn

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<v Speaker 1>about the Menora?

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<v Speaker 2>I learned that it quite positively could match certain times

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<v Speaker 2>in history and certain books in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best way you could put it.

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<v Speaker 2>On, to be honest with you. The most impressive thing

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<v Speaker 2>was actually to me, and I think at Leasa even

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned it too, was the whole Mike King thing in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle with the letters like that. That to me

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<v Speaker 2>actually was like, all right, there's something That's why I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, it was something else up with the

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<v Speaker 2>other letters.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right? Well, that that MLK sound in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the word right there has this weird connotation. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they use at all these you know, temples

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<v Speaker 1>to Malcourt, that's one of them. The hero of the

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<v Speaker 1>Canaanite Phoenicians and Also, the MLK was also a reference

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<v Speaker 1>to moloch rituals involving human sacrifice, So the minora sort

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<v Speaker 1>of represents the MLK type rituals back of the Canaanite

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenician days. So it has a lot of interesting connotations

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<v Speaker 1>that we didn't get to because as I was holding

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<v Speaker 1>my tongue as hard as I could. But today we

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<v Speaker 1>got right here. Yeah, so this is my symbol. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of alchemical ingredients. I wanted to highlight the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's veno.

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<v Speaker 2>So the.

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<v Speaker 1>Image for wine or the glyph for wine, and the

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<v Speaker 1>alchemical text is a V. And I found that to

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of interesting because you know, our conception, our

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<v Speaker 1>shaping of the word really does have an influence on

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<v Speaker 1>how we view the substance. Right, So as you're going

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<v Speaker 1>through here, you could see they have planetary correspondence. You

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<v Speaker 1>see a little bit of Saturn in that one, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of these different metals, like you see antimony right here,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the circle the globus cruciger, and you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting antimony. It's related to wolves and stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's this image of a man holding the globeless

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<v Speaker 1>cruciger and that has to do with this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>strange gray silver metal that has a lot of applications

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<v Speaker 1>we don't normally talk about. But how is that the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world? You know, because that's what the globalist globalist

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<v Speaker 1>cruciger represents. And here we've got different signs for spirits,

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<v Speaker 1>and then down here that would be the spirit of wine,

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<v Speaker 1>and based off of how it was right christall would.

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<v Speaker 3>Be the.

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<v Speaker 1>Glass that they use. Yeah, just like the other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the wine on the bottom. If you go

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<v Speaker 1>to the V when you put the S above it,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that means it's distilled or spirits of wine.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you put the when you put the S

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<v Speaker 1>inside of it, that undistilled. So the spirit comes up

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<v Speaker 1>out of the wine, which is how you distill it.

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<v Speaker 1>I always found that interesting, so interesting that would be

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a shot, right, that's a shot. The

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<v Speaker 1>other one's a chaser.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, your fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my symbol. It's so much fun to get

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<v Speaker 1>into these and just like try and find the other

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<v Speaker 1>correspondences because you learned so much about what was going

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<v Speaker 1>through their head when they made these different symbols.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, an antimony one is like like how yo

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've seen this in the Catholic Church.

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<v Speaker 1>Globus Cruciger. It's what all the kings carrying their other hand.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got the uh, the staff in one hand or

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<v Speaker 1>the scepter and the globist Cruciger and the other. You

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<v Speaker 1>saw that in the movie We Frozen too, where she

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<v Speaker 1>becomes the queen after her parents are killed and she

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<v Speaker 1>has to pick up the objects and she ends up

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<v Speaker 1>freezing the objects. Right, But it's the it's the phallus

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole world. It's the whole world being commanded

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<v Speaker 1>by the fallas. Again, it goes back into how people

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<v Speaker 1>do magic. They've got the wand in one hand, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they've got the whole world that they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>influence around them. So lots of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever see Twin Peak? Did you? Were you

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<v Speaker 2>into Twin Peaks at all? Oh? I asking you that

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<v Speaker 2>I should know the answer it now, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot about it from other people talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>In the third season, there's like this thing that like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of looks like a well, people assume it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a gigantic coffee pot, but it kind of looks like

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<v Speaker 2>it's still already interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure he put a lot of stuff in there.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very reversed in alchemy and.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff for show.

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<v Speaker 3>A.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I figured I kind of cheesed out, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, let me think of something that

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<v Speaker 2>I've already done, kind of. For people who don't like

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<v Speaker 2>know what this is, I highly suggest to go back

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<v Speaker 2>and watch the Robert Flood episode I did. This image

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<v Speaker 2>will come up in there, and this is the title

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<v Speaker 2>used by Flood, the Mysterium Mentist Humane or the Mystery

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<v Speaker 2>the Mystery of the human Mind, And it does pop

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<v Speaker 2>up in his eutrisky cosmo. I'm not even gonna read

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing again. Go check out the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I put out. I covered a bunch of his books.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one of them. It is originally a copper

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<v Speaker 2>plate engraving. It's around eighteen inches by eighteen by eleven

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<v Speaker 2>centimeters and it is done by and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>do find it interesting, and I have thought about trying

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<v Speaker 2>trying to maybe look into it and cover it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it be a solo, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>think it's interesting. How Like when you get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these old books, sometimes these people will draw these engravings.

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<v Speaker 2>I think supposedly this was written, driven or drawn by

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<v Speaker 2>Flood and then this person need the image. But I

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<v Speaker 2>know this person Matthios, he's also pressed for other people,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like even Michael Myers, and not all the

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<v Speaker 2>time do they actually give them the image. Sometimes they

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<v Speaker 2>actually come up with it, and it's like how come whenever,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's interesting, like if that person's image matches what

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<v Speaker 2>this person's trying to say in the occult in the book,

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<v Speaker 2>I would question or think possibly the person making the

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<v Speaker 2>image is understanding as well. And we never really seem

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<v Speaker 2>to think about like who the fuck drew then, So

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about that long story short actually covering

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<v Speaker 2>people who like have made engravings and I don't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody ever actually really talks about them, but like they

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<v Speaker 2>are part of the book actually, And this was done

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<v Speaker 2>by Matthios Marie and DA or whatever Matthias Mary and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I know. I don't know what the DA

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<v Speaker 2>is for. But and it's again it's after Flood's drawing,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was printed by Johann Theodore de Bryze Press.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's like even another thing that the Brize Press

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<v Speaker 2>was known for, like doing a lot of engravings and

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<v Speaker 2>pressings for occultists, you know, so I've even thought of,

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<v Speaker 2>like toisting them in there and looking, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>covering stuff like that. Again, the creation of the image

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<v Speaker 2>of the conceptual author was Robert Flood, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>from fifteen seventy four to sixteen thirty seven, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was an English Paracelsian physician who sketched the diagram while

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<v Speaker 2>writing the microcosm half of his encyclopedia Encyclopedia Opus, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was around the sixteen seventeenth to sixteen twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>The copper engraving again Matthias Marion the Elder. He's from

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen ninety three to sixteen fifty. He was a resident

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<v Speaker 2>artist for the Dobry publishing house in Oppenheim or Frankfurt.

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<v Speaker 2>He translated Flood's pen and ink scheme into the finished

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<v Speaker 2>plate in sixteen eighteen to sixteen nineteen, and signing several

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<v Speaker 2>of the surrounding figures. The plate rolled off the press

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<v Speaker 2>in the third fiscal issue late of sixteen nineteen. No

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<v Speaker 2>earlier printed version is known, so this impression basically goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to then. What the engraving shows a left profile

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<v Speaker 2>cut away ahead is packed. Sorry, let out. Label on

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<v Speaker 2>the plate is Census Communists. Let me see what it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like right now. Let's see if I can find that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna leave it here again. People want to

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<v Speaker 2>see more, go check out the episode. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>keep coming back to this, but I'll just leave this soup. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Census Communists and floods meeting is convergence point of the

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<v Speaker 2>five outward senses, and the modern anatomical analog is the

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<v Speaker 2>junction of the optic and chasm and the thalamie the

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<v Speaker 2>image image genatio storage house of raw images, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is of the like kind of the ocu occipital and

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<v Speaker 2>temporal lobes, the cacciatio and ratio the discursive reason that

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<v Speaker 2>is the frontal lobes, the memorial long term treasury of forms.

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<v Speaker 2>In the modern atomical analog to that would be the posterio,

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<v Speaker 2>ventricle and the cerebellum. The mens in the intellexis floods

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<v Speaker 2>meeting the supersense that turns upward toward God, and the

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<v Speaker 2>modern anatomical analog would the be the the pineal region

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<v Speaker 2>pierced by array on the print, arrows rise from from

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<v Speaker 2>ear I nose tongue skin along optic tracks to the census.

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<v Speaker 2>Communists then step upward through each faculty until they pierced

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<v Speaker 2>the cranial vault and enter a blazing sun labeled juice.

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<v Speaker 2>The entire layout is a hermetic map of how corporal

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<v Speaker 2>site leads step by step to illumination of the soul,

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<v Speaker 2>and how Flood expected it to be used around the

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<v Speaker 2>seventeenth century. A meditative diagram. The reader was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>gaze at each circle, where reciting short Latin prayers printed

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<v Speaker 2>on the facing page. Flood says this fixes the idea

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<v Speaker 2>and memory and trains the senses to obey reason. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a oh God, anemodic device, m N E M

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<v Speaker 2>O N I C device. We're gonna fuck that up.

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<v Speaker 2>By walking the eye from sense to memory, students could

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<v Speaker 2>recall complex change of medical or astrological correspondences, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was Rosicrucian proof plate and correspondence. Flood called it ocula

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<v Speaker 2>demonstration against purely mechanical anatomy, arguing that true medicine must

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<v Speaker 2>treat the spirit as well as flesh. I think you think,

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<v Speaker 2>uh kind of like leave it there. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>was enough. I did have a little bit more. But youah,

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<v Speaker 2>headed there, you're unfortunately you immuted this or I keep

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<v Speaker 2>doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that mnemonic device thing really hit me. So he's memorizing,

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<v Speaker 1>he's creating a memory palace with all of the astrological

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<v Speaker 1>signs and everything that they do. That's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like that's they just put it right out

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you. That's a memory palace and demonic device.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a physical space that you're returning to

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again, defined and this knowledge right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's it's got its own geography. It's shaping the

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<v Speaker 1>mind of these people at the very beginning part of

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, enlightenment. They're using this mnemonic device and

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<v Speaker 1>they are accessing higher realms.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you look into other like even other

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<v Speaker 2>practices or maybe even certain older traditions, you might see

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<v Speaker 2>other ways that people kind of do that or have

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<v Speaker 2>their own way of doing it, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I know in agent Greece they used the mnemonic devices

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<v Speaker 1>alongside the gods and all the mythology to have this

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<v Speaker 1>vast array of other associations and networks that had number

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<v Speaker 1>in it too. Yes, this is how you train the mind.

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<v Speaker 1>The higher levels of consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>Very interesting stuff, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I was like, I always thought that this was

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<v Speaker 2>show that I did. But I think, you know, very deep,

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<v Speaker 2>are onto something way father than like what the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing talked about by any occultists out there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's some pretty deep shit. So and I actually think

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<v Speaker 2>like they might actually you know this sometimes, I think

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<v Speaker 2>some of the oldest stuff, if we actually really understood

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<v Speaker 2>how to read it, it's a little bit more direct

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<v Speaker 2>more than what you would get out of some other

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<v Speaker 2>like piece of shit magicians SiGe up nowadays, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, Like Crowley wouldn't have been like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing how anatomically accurate it is and how relevant it

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<v Speaker 1>stays today because you know, all of the new aged

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<v Speaker 1>people are talking about the pineal gland and how it's

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<v Speaker 1>So he definitely is using his experience coming up with

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<v Speaker 1>cadavers and is whatever this mental process is of identifying

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<v Speaker 1>what everything is doing inside the brain is pretty damn accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>Where is he getting that information from? They can't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything with like microscopes or you know, electrical current. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>this is way before that.

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<v Speaker 2>See that was even another thing that I was even

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<v Speaker 2>trying to like why why I even covered flood and

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<v Speaker 2>there's other people and I've even looked like up books

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<v Speaker 2>that I might cover that. It's just like yo, in

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<v Speaker 2>the fifteen hundreds or maybe even earlier, they're drawing and

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<v Speaker 2>showing you like the brain, the eyes, the nervous system.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, what the fuck was going on? Like how

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<v Speaker 2>did they know all this back then? If we want

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<v Speaker 2>to go by WHOA, the technology we supposedly had or

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<v Speaker 2>the understanding that we supposedly had back then, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's truthful, but somehow that there was people who

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<v Speaker 2>understood shit. That is just I don't know. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>like what you were saying, this seems like these people

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<v Speaker 1>They knew way more than they were supposed to. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it has something to do with that conversation

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<v Speaker 1>they're having with the gods. That's what they're packing their

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<v Speaker 2>I could agree with that very well.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems really simplistic, but if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're shaping the rest of the map by what you

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<v Speaker 1>put into and use to associate with other things and

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<v Speaker 1>mnemonic devices. Have you ever heard what is it called?

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<v Speaker 1>I got this email pulled up and I was having

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<v Speaker 1>major deja vu. But it's crazy, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens to the best, Melissa.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like I've read it before, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember any of the details that are coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that feeling. But anyways, I wanted to pull something up.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a certain memory technique where you're using these images

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<v Speaker 1>in a row, and it's kind of like a nemonic device.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called a memory palace. It's also called other things too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've heard of this from maybe you brought

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<v Speaker 2>this up before right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, this sounds like they call it the method

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<v Speaker 1>of Loki. It's a mnemonic device that uses spatial visualization

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<v Speaker 1>to enhance memory retention and recall. So as they're taking

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<v Speaker 1>in information, it goes through the process of being related

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<v Speaker 1>to one of the different zodiac signs, and they're finding

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<v Speaker 1>it away in all of these different associative boxes so

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<v Speaker 1>that their memory can pull it up faster when they

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<v Speaker 1>need to get access to it because they've got all

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<v Speaker 1>of the other spatial recognition features that they use to

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<v Speaker 1>pull up these memories. Do you get kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying? Yeah, well I can do an experiment with it,

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<v Speaker 1>probably at different time, but like you can walk somebody

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<v Speaker 1>through a scenario and point out to them different features

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<v Speaker 1>and then start to put objects and ideas relating to

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<v Speaker 1>those features, and then as you walk with your mind

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<v Speaker 1>through the alleyway, you're actually picking up the memories that

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<v Speaker 1>you've associated with those different objects. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why my brain goes to that shit first,

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<v Speaker 2>but you see.

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<v Speaker 1>The magical potential because every object in your mind is

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<v Speaker 1>actually fitting together on those subconscious associated levels. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you make an association over and over again, that the

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<v Speaker 1>other person's not picking up on. That's called NLP.

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<v Speaker 2>That that is a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that memory palace technique is really vital

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<v Speaker 1>to understand to understand the rest of the fields of magic.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think memory is really important.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think memories the first magic, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>think about what it means to be able to perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>recall something that somebody else just completely forgets. That puts

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<v Speaker 1>you ahead in everything once you have a perfect memory,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, especially back then when everything needed to be memorized.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's how they counted too. All the different bones in

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<v Speaker 1>your fingers are associated with numbers and how to do

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<v Speaker 1>it using your fingers like an abacus. Right, They were

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<v Speaker 1>doing complex math equations just using a hand, and how

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<v Speaker 1>they tap the different portions. We don't learn math like that,

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<v Speaker 1>no wonder we suck at it. You don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>physical associations that come along with sensory perceptions. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't like math because it has no physical associations

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<v Speaker 1>to our bodies or anything. It's all concepts, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing grounding about it anyways, So let me start

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they would have thrown some jamatriy in school would

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<v Speaker 2>have made things interesting. Oh, like numerical associations with math.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the Greeks were doing, isobsyphy. That's why they

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<v Speaker 1>were smart. It's in there. Okay, so this is coming

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<v Speaker 1>from Winter York. She doesn't say anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, Okay, who that is? Tell me you do yea?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you recognize this or not? Because I stread to

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<v Speaker 1>read it into it and I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've read this before, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember any of the details. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, if I remember correctly, Actually, she might be

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<v Speaker 2>really really good for emails to the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah. I wanted to write about my experience in

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<v Speaker 1>the Superstition Mountains of Arizona. I will try to keep

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<v Speaker 1>this as short as possible. So my interest in the

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<v Speaker 1>Superstitions began before I ever thought there was a chance

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<v Speaker 1>I would be moving from New Hampshire to the desert.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched on the Paranormal Files on YouTube and here

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<v Speaker 1>and there about this knowledge of history, geology and strange

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<v Speaker 1>happenings out there. The Superstitions start east of Phoenix in

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<v Speaker 1>the Apache Junction area. From what I remember, is a

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<v Speaker 1>volcano that erupted and fell in on itself millions of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. Now. I have always had strange symbolic dreams

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<v Speaker 1>since I was a child. These dreams to be tend

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<v Speaker 1>to be more real than my waking life, and if

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<v Speaker 1>I pay attention to them, very deep and profound information

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<v Speaker 1>comes through. My first trip out there helped put some

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<v Speaker 1>of these dreams and visions together. I hiked with a

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<v Speaker 1>friend from work that has lived in Phoenix her whole life,

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<v Speaker 1>and this was her first hike. I was all excited

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<v Speaker 1>because I heard so much about this mountain range that

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get the feel for it. So many

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely terrifying stories about people going missing, people found it

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<v Speaker 1>internally exploded for no reason, reptilians in caves, UFOs, military

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<v Speaker 1>helicopters and underground tunnels, people found without heads, portals, strange

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<v Speaker 1>black mists appearing, skinwalkers, little people, gold fever, madness, shadow beings,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all the scary things. Such a responsible hike

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<v Speaker 1>for me, a mother of a four year old, to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing. But the mountain Range was too tantalizing not

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<v Speaker 1>to go, so off we went. With all the novice

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<v Speaker 1>desert hiker precautions we could think of I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to hike Massacred Grounds, but to my boss at work

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<v Speaker 1>told us to hike the Peralta trail. He was right.

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<v Speaker 1>As I was driving and getting my first glimpse of

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<v Speaker 1>this mountain range, it had the look of a looming

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<v Speaker 1>walled fortress and the energy felt different. I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just from knowing the stories, as I have

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<v Speaker 1>lived a few miles from Stardust Ranch. If you're familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with that, oh good references. That place had some terrifying

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<v Speaker 1>stories as well. I went there fully expecting negative energy,

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<v Speaker 1>only to have this place my go to place when

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<v Speaker 1>I need to get away in nature. So the Stardust Ranch,

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<v Speaker 1>the area that I expected to be terrifying, gave me

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<v Speaker 1>a tinkling light feeling in my chest. The superstitions it

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<v Speaker 1>had felt like a heavy pressure on my chest. And

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<v Speaker 1>this sounds strange, and I've only experienced this in these

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<v Speaker 1>strange places out here. Something in my normal consciousness shifts,

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<v Speaker 1>like my thinking patterns are off. In this case, my

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<v Speaker 1>inner dialogue became more focused than alert. Fun times was over.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like this felt intense and maybe my brain

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<v Speaker 1>was dumping adrenaline. Why nothing was happening so we turned

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<v Speaker 1>onto this long dirt road to the Peralta Trail trail

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<v Speaker 1>head and was greeted immediately by a large coyote. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm either more tuned into the nature side of spirituality

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<v Speaker 1>or I listened to too many esoteric podcasts, but my

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<v Speaker 1>brain automatically thought, well, there's the trickster. We got to

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<v Speaker 1>the parking area, but I couldn't stop staring at the rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>The rock formations had my attention and I had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea why. I don't know geology. Well, I was fixated

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<v Speaker 1>on them. So we went to the start of the

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<v Speaker 1>trail and it was manned by two park rangers, making

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<v Speaker 1>sure we all estimated the time we are to return

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<v Speaker 1>phone number of myself at an emergency tack number. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole bit. I asked why, and he straight out said

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<v Speaker 1>that too many people go missing or need to be rescued.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we were just doing some light hiking, but

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<v Speaker 1>apparently not. He then pointed out some big horn sheep

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<v Speaker 1>was being watched. I'll pit it on them. It was

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<v Speaker 1>already weirded out by this place. After hiking for a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like every fiber of my being was tuned

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<v Speaker 1>into every plant, rock, or possible danger around me. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>the place was beautiful, and at one point the trail

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't marked well, and I had the feeling that the

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<v Speaker 1>trail went up a rocky area to the right. But

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<v Speaker 1>then just a couple came up behind us, and the

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<v Speaker 1>man confidently told his wife that the trail went straight off,

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<v Speaker 1>and off they went. I was confident my intuition was

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<v Speaker 1>right and went the other way, which was correct. I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking down at these fools bushwhacking through scrubbrush on

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<v Speaker 1>yelled down to them the trail was up here. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I know that why some of the people go

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<v Speaker 1>missing out here, stupidity. We harmed higher, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>and the way the sun was hitting them. They really

420
00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:17.799
<v Speaker 1>looked like what the natives say about the land, that

421
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.079
<v Speaker 1>giants were turned into rocks of here during a great flood.

422
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>The play of light and shadow makes them appear to

423
00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:28.319
<v Speaker 1>have faces, and it is a little bit strange. At

424
00:26:28.319 --> 00:26:31.559
<v Speaker 1>about a mile or so, we stopped the side of

425
00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:34.559
<v Speaker 1>a rock had a fresh wet blood all over it.

426
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:37.599
<v Speaker 1>We saw no injured people or animals, and it was

427
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.599
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit of blood coyote in prey mountain lyon somewhere.

428
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.279
<v Speaker 1>It was odd, but instead of being concerned about the

429
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>possible immediate threat, I kept staring at it dripping down,

430
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.640
<v Speaker 1>and the phrase the minerals are in the blood kept

431
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:55.400
<v Speaker 1>repeating itself over and over in my head. We heard

432
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.680
<v Speaker 1>what sounded like people coming up the trail, so we

433
00:26:57.799 --> 00:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>moved to the side and let them pass. But I

434
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:05.519
<v Speaker 1>noticed one thing. The acoustics here were strange off. I

435
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 1>know acoustics and sound can affect people. I just know

436
00:27:08.680 --> 00:27:12.400
<v Speaker 1>that my mind was not normal here. I felt so strange,

437
00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>even stranger that about eight people and their dogs passed

438
00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:19.039
<v Speaker 1>the fresh blood and nobody saw it. Talk about lack

439
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of situational awareness. Eventually we got to my first sight

440
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>of Weaver's needle. We could have gone further, but at

441
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.920
<v Speaker 1>this point I had had enough, some sort of mental overload.

442
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:34.079
<v Speaker 1>It seemed like we looked at this rock formation from

443
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.759
<v Speaker 1>a distance for a bit, and suddenly, in my mind's eye,

444
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the Lover's tarot card overlaid on Weaver's needle. There was

445
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:44.920
<v Speaker 1>a sudden flash and from how I interpret the cards,

446
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm a complete novice, my mind went the lost

447
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.519
<v Speaker 1>Dutchman's goal is supposed to be in the direction of

448
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the shadow of the weaver's needle at a certain time

449
00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:00.599
<v Speaker 1>of day, and possibly hundreds of people died for this gold, murdered,

450
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:05.599
<v Speaker 1>betrayed for this gold. Did you want to say something? No, oh,

451
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>I thought I heard you murdered betrayed for this gold.

452
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>There was a terribly bloody history for physical gold out here.

453
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.799
<v Speaker 1>As I'm staring, I'm seeing the lover's card and the

454
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Devil's card, the devil card in this simple rock formation.

455
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:22.400
<v Speaker 1>It sounded so stupid, But the lovers and the devil

456
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:24.920
<v Speaker 1>card aren't they really closely related?

457
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:30.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it is interesting like you are seeing the

458
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:34.039
<v Speaker 2>couple again. I mean you will, yeh, I can see

459
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:35.000
<v Speaker 2>a correlation with that.

460
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Actually it sounds stupid, but this was so profound at

461
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>this moment. Well, I mean, death and slave, or love

462
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>and slavery kind of go hand in hand. We turned

463
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.759
<v Speaker 1>around with the idea of getting some food after and

464
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>getting back to the car, but I started feeling overemotional

465
00:28:55.960 --> 00:29:00.599
<v Speaker 1>as I walked back walk back. When I got home,

466
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 1>I still felt off, and it kept getting worse. It

467
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.119
<v Speaker 1>was fine going out there, but I felt so empty

468
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>after deep emptiness, like a feeling of nothingness. Could this

469
00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:14.039
<v Speaker 1>place represent avoid and occultism? No place e ever hit

470
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.839
<v Speaker 1>me like this. After a few days, I was fulding

471
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:20.839
<v Speaker 1>laundry when just like a flash, all this information jumped

472
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.799
<v Speaker 1>into my head. I frantically grabbed my phone and found

473
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the symbol for the three alchemical principles of mercury, sulfur,

474
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 1>and salt. I looked those up. If those mountains contain mercury,

475
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>they do sulfur given that it's an ancient volcano, yes,

476
00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:41.039
<v Speaker 1>and the salt river runs alongside of it. There is

477
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.640
<v Speaker 1>also a light depicted in this alchemical symbol, and I'm

478
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>wondering if that's phosphorus. They mind back gutto out there

479
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 1>at some time. And the only reason I put together

480
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>put that together was a dream I had multiple times

481
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>being in a marsh and coming up to the edge

482
00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 1>and seeing a giant ancient sea creature in the marsh,

483
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and then a large black mountain with fire coming out

484
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>at the top of the heavens and a large bat

485
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:09.039
<v Speaker 1>winged creature flying next to it. I didn't know any

486
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:12.559
<v Speaker 1>esoteric stuff at the time. But these symbols seem to

487
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>now represent Tiamatt and Lucifer, but primarily the symbology for

488
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 1>alchemy mountains are very triangle. Some feedback would be great.

489
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Those do sound like our chemical symbols. But what's so

490
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the bat would represent Lucifer, the dragon.

491
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the devil card again because he does things.

492
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Tiamatt would be the dragon and that has to do

493
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 1>with water, right, And uh, let's see one thing.

494
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:48.440
<v Speaker 2>One thing I do want to mention is real quick

495
00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:51.480
<v Speaker 2>with the devil card and how we mentioned the devil

496
00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and the Lover's card. The Lover's card does connect on

497
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:58.319
<v Speaker 2>the Tree of Life sat into the sun, and then

498
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>the devil card does connect mercury to the sun. So

499
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:06.480
<v Speaker 2>there is some sort of like relationship there because it's

500
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 2>the sun isn't part of that connection, right, But you

501
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 2>don't understand with that, and even mercury is coming off.

502
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I just found it interesting how you mentioned mercury in

503
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:19.680
<v Speaker 2>this right, But is.

504
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:24.039
<v Speaker 1>It an interesting The Flying Dutchman's treasure is at the

505
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>bottom of Cleopatra's needle, with the sun shining down on

506
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:34.799
<v Speaker 1>the shadow of it, pointing to where the treasure is

507
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>possibly right gold or the Philosopher's stone, because you got

508
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>all the symbols right there pointing this is the philosophical goal.

509
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we need to go out there during summer solstice

510
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, put some sort of collection thing

511
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>down and actually tried to steal something out there. Maybe

512
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>use a giant fucking magnifying glass, use that for a

513
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 1>heat source. Oh fuck, use the sun itself, man, that'll

514
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:09.039
<v Speaker 1>be awesome.

515
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 2>There a certain code in the sun at the time

516
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>that will work, right, isn't the I mean the Sun's

517
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:17.319
<v Speaker 2>always emitting a different frequency at different times.

518
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely high nude on the summer solstice. You get the

519
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Philosopher's stone out there at the needle. Well, no, high

520
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.359
<v Speaker 1>nude couldn't work because then it would be straight up

521
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and down right.

522
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I was over a mountain pilot around that time, I

523
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>think already right around noon or two. I think by

524
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:42.759
<v Speaker 2>then I can't remember, but during the day it was

525
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>there at some point summer. So it's interesting right.

526
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:49.319
<v Speaker 1>There in the morning, that's such a sacred time and

527
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>hardly anybody celebrates it. I don't get like you get

528
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.039
<v Speaker 1>up at dawn on the summer solstice, because that's the

529
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 1>day that you're getting the maximum amount of sunlight possible.

530
00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>These people don't even worship the sun anymore. What's wrong

531
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:11.759
<v Speaker 1>with them? Yeah, she goes. I'll note that this mountain

532
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>range still sits at thirty three degrees north at one

533
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:18.839
<v Speaker 1>hundred and eleven degrees west. The indigenous people believe that

534
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.119
<v Speaker 1>this was the abode of the thunder god and it

535
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.279
<v Speaker 1>was his gold. And also this place contained a gateway

536
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 1>to the underworld. Circle Stone is a little research area

537
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 1>out here because it is difficult to get to, but

538
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:37.279
<v Speaker 1>it is aligned to Polaris. Many of the desert creatures

539
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>out here are symbolic spiders, scorpions, coyotes, horns of the

540
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:46.519
<v Speaker 1>big horned sheep. Many tribes live here in these mountains,

541
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:49.359
<v Speaker 1>but the Aztecs were rumored to have made it up

542
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>this far and also lived in them. I have second

543
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.559
<v Speaker 1>experience here, but I'll save that for another time. I've

544
00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 1>spoken to many locals and they won't set foot in

545
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:01.359
<v Speaker 1>those mountains. That's what they call it on the Superstition Mountains.

546
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

547
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:08.039
<v Speaker 1>We see also the portals rumored to be here. People

548
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.119
<v Speaker 1>use obsidian for black mirrors, project tearstones.

549
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:17.440
<v Speaker 2>That's what they suggest. Staff for even scrying too. That's

550
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:19.159
<v Speaker 2>what I've you know, that's what I've always read or

551
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:21.159
<v Speaker 2>was even you know, suggested with people that I knew

552
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>that was in a magical community. It was absidian polished

553
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:30.559
<v Speaker 2>obsity in like mirror. Well you could do the ghettoway.

554
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh god, I think that's how I did it.

555
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Like you had the blake. You could take like a

556
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.719
<v Speaker 2>glass frame and I think you can spray paint the

557
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.199
<v Speaker 2>back of one of them. Yeah. I did some shit

558
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.159
<v Speaker 2>like that. Yeah. I ended up making it and I

559
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:45.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, I gave it to it. Doing it

560
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 2>to the ot O, I was like, oh you want this.

561
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:53.639
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm not fucking using this. I don't know. Yeah, no,

562
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:55.440
<v Speaker 2>it's just I was just like, I don't know, I'd

563
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>rather get the obsidian. That's how fucking silly I was,

564
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:02.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, which I did have a big obsidian well

565
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:05.239
<v Speaker 2>not that big obsidian sphere, and a few other pieces,

566
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.320
<v Speaker 2>but I never never, still never got into scrying, actually,

567
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:10.760
<v Speaker 2>at least not that I noticed. Maybe I did and

568
00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize. I don't know.

569
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:17.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, when you use a black mirror in addition to

570
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>a crystal ball, you can get some interesting results.

571
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no this, I mean just if you start,

572
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 2>like I guess, even getting at the idea of what

573
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:31.519
<v Speaker 2>you're even doing. I don't know. I think this is

574
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>probably more seriousness with scrying that people would normally think.

575
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're fucking looking back into your rivals in

576
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 2>a sense, and the reflection for a while. I mean,

577
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:45.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, your brain in your eyes can stuck. I

578
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know, creating movies for you, who the fuck knows.

579
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.519
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting you can do to mess with your focus too,

580
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 1>to where going focus you actually start to.

581
00:35:56.039 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 2>See yes, yes, yes, yes, yes that I exactly know

582
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:03.199
<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about. And then when you start doing

583
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:05.679
<v Speaker 2>shit like that, you almost thought, like making your own

584
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.800
<v Speaker 2>fucking things, I know exactly.

585
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so she says about a mile or so, I stopped.

586
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh nope, never mind, I'm way down. We're almost done people.

587
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.679
<v Speaker 2>This is a good one though, right. That's like I

588
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 2>had a feel like because I was like, yo, if

589
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I remember quickly. She used to hit me up with

590
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:31.159
<v Speaker 2>some crazy stories and it's just like sometimes unfortunately it's

591
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 2>just like I can't even whatever, and I was like,

592
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 2>this would be perfect for her. Actually, so so winter,

593
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 2>if you're still if you're still still listening obviously what

594
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:42.440
<v Speaker 2>you are definitely send in more stories because you've got

595
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:42.920
<v Speaker 2>plenty of them.

596
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, So we stopped at Apache. Tears are a

597
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>type of obsidian from lava Rock. This place has a

598
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.639
<v Speaker 1>ton of these stones. In fact, you can hype to

599
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:56.719
<v Speaker 1>a cave near here to mind them that has a

600
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>uh Samarian writing left from the cave scene from Fallen

601
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Angels in the movie The Prophecy, which was filmed by

602
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 1>the Superstitions, which coincides with the myth from the tribes

603
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:12.760
<v Speaker 1>here that star people came down to teach them to

604
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>grow corn at other things. The second time I hiked

605
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Massacre Grounds and it wasn't as pretty. It was an

606
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.519
<v Speaker 1>absolute slog and it was miserable. This time, however, I

607
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:26.360
<v Speaker 1>sat on a rock to look at the view, and

608
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 1>it sounded like a masculine voice spoke a word into

609
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>my right ear in another language. I literally felt the

610
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.599
<v Speaker 1>vibration from it. For some strange reason, it didn't freak

611
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:41.599
<v Speaker 1>me out, but shortly up the trail I felt agitated

612
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>and wanted to turn around. That happens a lot with

613
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 1>that ranch. What was that.

614
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Skinwalker Ranch?

615
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Stars Kinker Ranch. Yeah, they had these massive voices, you know,

616
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:57.639
<v Speaker 1>talking in your ear out at Skinbalker Ranch, seemingly coming

617
00:37:57.679 --> 00:37:59.079
<v Speaker 1>from the sky in a different language.

618
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:01.599
<v Speaker 2>It was I on the show with you when I

619
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:03.599
<v Speaker 2>told you how somebody that I was at the summer

620
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 2>with uh kind of blew up on it. Well blew

621
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:09.480
<v Speaker 2>up that blew up on but like kind of told

622
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:11.559
<v Speaker 2>on one of those ranches around in that area how

623
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:13.159
<v Speaker 2>they're faked. Did they tell you about that?

624
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:14.079
<v Speaker 3>No?

625
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.159
<v Speaker 2>Shit, Yeah, when we're when we were at Mount Pilot

626
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:20.840
<v Speaker 2>after the summer was over, there was a few people

627
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 2>from the Cosmic Summit that was there and they were

628
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 2>walking with us, and one of them, you know, has

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<v Speaker 2>been on TV and said that he was approached to

630
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<v Speaker 2>go to Blind Froud Ranch. And now I've heard of

631
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:39.559
<v Speaker 2>that one. I've even seen it on TV in some form.

632
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I forgot what fucking channel hosted it. And they said

633
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<v Speaker 2>that when they read everything said, no way, like why scripted?

634
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<v Speaker 2>It's not real. There's no way I could put my

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<v Speaker 2>name on that. I was like, Yo, you just fucking okay,

636
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<v Speaker 2>Like you're just confirmed. Like when I think about half

637
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<v Speaker 2>of those shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, seriously, I think, uh, it's an industry now. I mean, look,

639
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<v Speaker 1>if I could say, some obscure ranch, someplace you'll never

640
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<v Speaker 1>go to is haunted. A lot of people will believe me,

641
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<v Speaker 1>So why not.

642
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you're doing using edited uh footage, you fucking make.

643
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<v Speaker 1>Anything right, Haunted ranches are in.

644
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, easy, that would be. I mean, it's just that

645
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<v Speaker 2>just sounds like can take. But it's just like for

646
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<v Speaker 2>ocultist or magicians. You know how much easier it is

647
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:46.119
<v Speaker 2>to probably fake silly shit than to actually try to

648
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:50.880
<v Speaker 2>teach people real stuff. Just keeping it real me and

649
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.239
<v Speaker 2>you could beat up and film some shit and people like,

650
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:54.960
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, they're together and any way, we can

651
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.119
<v Speaker 2>make the most absurd fucking fake shit overlay with fake

652
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:01.039
<v Speaker 2>fucking audio, do all sorts, fake shade, and people are,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, that was fucking amazing And it was

654
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:07.400
<v Speaker 2>totally fucking fake. Right, that shit goes on. That shit

655
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:07.760
<v Speaker 2>goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people do that, especially on Instagram. They

657
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<v Speaker 1>just start faking it. I guess they make it. I

658
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>observed this while there was still a mile ago. Oh no,

659
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<v Speaker 1>there we go, let me see. There was still a

660
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<v Speaker 1>mile to go to the falls. Almost everyone was turning

661
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.599
<v Speaker 1>back at the same place. I observed this while eating

662
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:35.719
<v Speaker 1>my snack very odd at this. After this hike, my

663
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:39.519
<v Speaker 1>friend started having reoccurring nightmares about this cave area off

664
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<v Speaker 1>the trail we found. Keeps dreaming about this red man

665
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:46.639
<v Speaker 1>with horns that goes straight in back front of this cave.

666
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<v Speaker 1>It's really haunting them. I'm glad that it didn't happen

667
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:53.639
<v Speaker 1>to me. However, I'm hoping to find other people out

668
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>there that went further. Want to further explore this place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's late here, and I hope this was some interesting

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<v Speaker 1>information for you and not too long. That was really good.

671
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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's great. Perfect.

672
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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever do a show on King Kill thirty three?

673
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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I don't think so.

674
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.559
<v Speaker 1>That was like one of the first uh, I guess

675
00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:23.360
<v Speaker 1>conspiracies about the JFK assassination from this schizo guy who

676
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>was talking about how it was all the big Freebason

677
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:28.559
<v Speaker 1>ritual and he talks about the Superstition Mountains on the

678
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<v Speaker 1>thirty third degree parallel.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, No, I don't know if I've actually heard it,

680
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<v Speaker 2>or if I have, I've forgot about it. No, it doesn't.

681
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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't. The name doesn't ring a bell, So I'm

682
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<v Speaker 2>not going to try to like fake it and be like,

683
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<v Speaker 2>oh I've heard that or just for good.

684
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a it's a pretty interesting book, but I

685
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 1>think the author was made up, and uh, you know,

686
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:56.039
<v Speaker 1>the whole idea behind this fictional character writing about this

687
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 1>Masonic death ritual which lines up with all these different

688
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 1>lay lines and everything else having to do with Masonic rituals.

689
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.679
<v Speaker 1>I forgot the name of him though, but yeah it

690
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:12.320
<v Speaker 1>was Ah. That was like the height of the paranoia

691
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:14.840
<v Speaker 1>of the sixties that came out King Kill thirty three

692
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.079
<v Speaker 1>and a bunch of Discordians got a hold of it

693
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<v Speaker 1>and spread it around everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm, it would be something interesting to look. I don't

695
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<v Speaker 2>know for some reason. Yeah, I don't know. Uh, I

696
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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I ever remember hearing that. I have

697
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 2>to put that on like YouTube one night. I'm like

698
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:35.639
<v Speaker 2>doing all this shit and getting stoned editing and showing minors.

699
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're gonna have a long slog ahead of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

701
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We didn't even get into the Book of Maccabees.

702
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 1>That's where they get the holiday Hanakah from. Yeah, like

703
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>he never read the Book of Maccabees because it's not

704
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<v Speaker 1>in the Bible anymore. Anyways, people will find out what

705
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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about.

706
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<v Speaker 2>In a few weeks and a few weekends and a

707
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<v Speaker 2>few weekends, you'll catch it on the audio on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it all right? Well, thank you everybody for

709
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<v Speaker 1>showing up and h you send to bed smil was

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, thank you went there.

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<v Speaker 3>Close your eyes, look into the darkness, find the blazing star.

713
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<v Speaker 3>Focus on it. It will become the eclipse. Don't fear

714
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<v Speaker 3>what the show will be doing.

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<v Speaker 1>You
