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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight's account is from a retired Air Force veteran, mental

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<v Speaker 1>health therapist and someone who spent her entire life in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods. And this episode goes from the pine forest

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas to the swamps of Louisiana, the back roads

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<v Speaker 1>of Washington and the shadows of the Olympic National Forest.

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<v Speaker 1>What did Kay experience throughout the years. You'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to her story to find out. So stay with us,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Big Fort Society, You've got the privilege of

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Kay today. Kay is an individual. She is

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<v Speaker 1>a mental health therapist, a retired US Air Force veteran,

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<v Speaker 1>and an explorer of the wilderness. So it's a pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>to have Kay on the show today. How are you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Today, Hi, I'm doing great. Thank you. It's nice to

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<v Speaker 2>meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, we're having a nice chat. Before the recording started,

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like we have a lot of ground to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>You've really had some interesting experiences over the years, so

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that you have the time

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<v Speaker 1>that you need, so you know, feel free to take

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<v Speaker 1>us back to where you would like to start with

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<v Speaker 1>this whole conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sure, I did make a list so I could

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<v Speaker 2>kind of try to keep it in the timeline in

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<v Speaker 2>chronological orders. So I'll start from the early seventies. My

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<v Speaker 2>first I didn't even know it was anything at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a child, but I was playing out in

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<v Speaker 2>my uncle, aunt and uncle's guard in Texas and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of forest around. It's on our family property

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<v Speaker 2>that's about three hundred acres and it's pretty forested. We

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<v Speaker 2>usually have our trees cut down every few years, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to try to turn a profit. But the trees were

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<v Speaker 2>grown at the time, and I was making mud pies

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<v Speaker 2>outside with my cousins and they went inside. I stayed

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<v Speaker 2>out to finish up, and I started hearing some hammering

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods, and I'm like, okay, who's building something

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<v Speaker 2>on the family of property? Is my first thought, because

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<v Speaker 2>it sounded like they were hammering, and it just kept

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<v Speaker 2>on and kept on. I think my aunt had heard that,

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<v Speaker 2>and she came running to the door and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>we're in here before the wood burgers get you. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what is a wood boger? And she wouldn't answer.

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<v Speaker 2>She made me go inside, so I went inside and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm gonna be smart. I'm gonna ask my

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<v Speaker 2>dad what a wood burger is. And I did that

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<v Speaker 2>and the room got silent and they looked at me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I never got an answer. So that was the

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<v Speaker 2>end of that. I didn't really attribute that to an

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<v Speaker 2>encounter until more recently, listening to your show. That's when

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<v Speaker 2>I started realizing that maybe that wasn't an encounter. When

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<v Speaker 2>I was really young, probably about five or six, my

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<v Speaker 2>first encounter that I remember, well, actually I didn't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really traumatic for me. Me and my sister

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<v Speaker 2>were on the neighbor's farm in Louisiana and we were sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a few feet away from the window, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>about three or four feet, and they had no curtains.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're sleeping there and I wake up and raise

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<v Speaker 2>up home on the other side of my sister. I

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<v Speaker 2>raise up and I see sasquatch in the window staring

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<v Speaker 2>at me, at my sister. My sister was covered up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I shook her and said, what is that? And

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<v Speaker 2>she said it's nothing good to sleep. I waid back

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<v Speaker 2>down and I was thinking, why would she say that?

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<v Speaker 2>And finally I that's not really a word, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of funny. I thought, well, she's closer to the

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<v Speaker 2>windows so and she's older than me. She's telling me

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<v Speaker 2>it's nothing, So I'm just going to accept that and

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<v Speaker 2>go back to sleep. And that was the end of

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<v Speaker 2>that encounter. But I locked out out of my memory

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<v Speaker 2>for several years until my sister reminded me and she

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<v Speaker 2>drew a picture of it. I don't have that picture

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere I can find it right now, but she drew

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<v Speaker 2>a picture of what we saw. But yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 2>was my first encounter, and I had nightmares about that

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<v Speaker 2>for quite some years. And it's kind of funny because

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<v Speaker 2>every time I watched Roote Off the Red Nose reindeer

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<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid, that reminded me of that

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<v Speaker 2>and just terrified me. Let's see the second time, and

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<v Speaker 2>this one is the first time. I remember. It was

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<v Speaker 2>about nineteen seventy eight or seventy nine. A friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually posted this one on the Texas Bigfoot Research

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<v Speaker 2>Center website. Me and my friend we would we had fireworks.

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<v Speaker 2>That was around the fourth of July, and we were

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<v Speaker 2>popping firecrackers, yelling and listening to the echoes in the

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<v Speaker 2>forest bouncing back and having a good time shooting. We

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<v Speaker 2>had some four ten guns we were shooting that and anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>that was during the day. At night, we went to

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<v Speaker 2>bed and they didn't have air conditioner hooked up yet,

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<v Speaker 2>so they'd left the windows open and we were laying

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<v Speaker 2>in bed. There was a window behind me and a

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<v Speaker 2>window behind my friend that was staying there. And something

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<v Speaker 2>came to the window at night. And there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of details to the site. It's probably best if you

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<v Speaker 2>do go to the website and read it. But something

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<v Speaker 2>came to the window and it was breathing really heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imitate the sound because you could tell the

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<v Speaker 2>lung capacity was just so much. I froze. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a froze allid in bed. The lady that made the

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<v Speaker 2>bed tucked the corners of the sheet and so tight.

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<v Speaker 2>But all I could do was just kind of scoot

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<v Speaker 2>over really slowly to try to get out of the bed.

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<v Speaker 2>If them busted through the screen. Nothing ever happened. But

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<v Speaker 2>what ended this encounter was the clock chiming in the

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<v Speaker 2>other room. It stopped it. It took about three minutes

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<v Speaker 2>for this to happen, and this thing vanished. I looked

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<v Speaker 2>out the window that I saw nothing. There was dead

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<v Speaker 2>silence during this event. Also, they had a German shepherd

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<v Speaker 2>chained up outside that went under the house while this

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<v Speaker 2>event was taking place. I know it was not a bear.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there were any bears in Louisiana at

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<v Speaker 2>this time, so I'm pretty certain this was a sasquatch

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<v Speaker 2>at the window. This is the same location as the

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<v Speaker 2>first encounter when I was watching me and my sister.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my Louisiana encounters.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a few things about these situations. So they're both

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<v Speaker 1>in Louisiana. Were they both in the same house then?

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<v Speaker 2>Now the person actually had a trailer during the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like one of those old nineteen fifties trailers

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<v Speaker 2>that had built out of real thin wood on the

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<v Speaker 2>walls and single pane windows that were really thin. Just

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<v Speaker 2>think it a busted through the window if it wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>The second they had put a house on the property,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was right by where the trailer was. They

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<v Speaker 2>used the trailer for storage at the time, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was really close and they had a little electric fence

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<v Speaker 2>around the yard to keep They have some cows on

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<v Speaker 2>the property. They put a little electric fence up around

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<v Speaker 2>the house to keep the cows away from the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Another thing that made me realize it had to have

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<v Speaker 2>been a sasquatches because the German shepherd it was about

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<v Speaker 2>nine months old, it was pretty tall, and it barked

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<v Speaker 2>at people. If it was a person, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>would have barked at them. I don't think it was

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<v Speaker 2>a wild animal because of the fence, so it had

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<v Speaker 2>to be something I figured that stepped over that fence

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<v Speaker 2>to come to the house, and so a little couple

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<v Speaker 2>of clues that I have that it was actually a

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<v Speaker 2>sasquatch coming there. I didn't actually see it though, so

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<v Speaker 2>on the website, I don't. It wasn't considered a classic

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<v Speaker 2>a setting because of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the first one you had actually seen it in

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<v Speaker 1>the window?

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<v Speaker 2>Correct did? I did? And I cannot recall exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>his face looked like. I feel like I and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't remember the sighting for like thirty years until my

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<v Speaker 2>sister brought it up. My mom made fun of me

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<v Speaker 2>all the time if I said anything about a monster

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods, and she would buy toys and make

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<v Speaker 2>fun of me when she would give me the toys

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. So I really, yeah, I felt like those

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<v Speaker 2>two really calls me a lot of trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you didn't ask for that, and to be

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<v Speaker 1>made fun of on top of that, And trauma is

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<v Speaker 1>a real thing. People don't realize what it does to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry you had to deal with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever okay, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever talk or did it come up with

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<v Speaker 1>any of the neighbors as well in that area?

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<v Speaker 2>You know when we woke up the next morning. No,

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<v Speaker 2>not about the first one when it was looking in

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<v Speaker 2>the window. And my sister never talked about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>she only told me about it in the early two

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<v Speaker 2>thousands because I had told her about my second encounter

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<v Speaker 2>where it was at the window breathing through the window,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she kind of said, well, don't you remember

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<v Speaker 2>when it was staring at us through the window? And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like no, and I said and then it

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<v Speaker 2>started coming back to me a little bit. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>that day we were outside, me and my sister were

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<v Speaker 2>flying kites, and my kite flew away the wind was

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<v Speaker 2>long and so hard and got lodged in trees in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods. We were also watching the shooting stars at night,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we finally went to bed, probably around ten

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<v Speaker 2>thirty or eleven and then I assume it's probably around

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<v Speaker 2>twelve to one or two or something when it was

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<v Speaker 1>One last question about these this group, the windows that

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<v Speaker 1>were in question, how high up off the ground approximately?

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<v Speaker 1>Were those.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to ask? Because I actually went and measured. The

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<v Speaker 2>one in the trailer was probably around It wasn't that high.

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<v Speaker 2>It may even four and a half to five foot

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<v Speaker 2>off the ground, so the thing would have been kind

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<v Speaker 2>of hunched over looking through. And when my sister drew

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<v Speaker 2>the picture, she drew kind of the outline of the

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<v Speaker 2>shoulders and just a pup of a head looking through

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<v Speaker 2>the window, and she said it looked kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>a caveman that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, wow. Does she still believe that she had

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<v Speaker 1>a sighting? To this day?

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't talk about it. That's the only time we've

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<v Speaker 2>ever discussed it. She doesn't want to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. I mean, that's the thing listeners do not understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, how for everything you hear on this show,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people that will not go

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<v Speaker 1>on air, or we get to the time when they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be interviewed and they just don't show up

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<v Speaker 1>and that is okay. I'm totally fine with that because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are very you know, aware of

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<v Speaker 1>of of their livelihood and their jobs and how that

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<v Speaker 1>could affect it. And so anyone that is able to

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<v Speaker 1>come on the show, I really do appreciate and never

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<v Speaker 1>take that for granted that they are able to come

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. But so all this so far has

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the nineteen seventies, and I'm at yes, so

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy eight, ninety seventy nine. How what was your

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<v Speaker 1>age approximately there?

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<v Speaker 2>I was around thirteen, gotcha? Gotcha?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Well, yeah, feel free to thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>answering my questions there, you feel free to continue with

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that I had a counter in Texas, so I

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<v Speaker 2>asked him if he wanted to go hunting. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>It was about twenty degrees outside. I had all my

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<v Speaker 2>And it just kept coming closer and closer. It didn't

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<v Speaker 2>the gun. As soon as I did, it started walking

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<v Speaker 2>backwards and it looked over towards me. Then I just

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<v Speaker 2>realize I did see something. I'm physically seeing the tree move.

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<v Speaker 2>It's no longer just a shadow walking along the side

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<v Speaker 2>of the trees. So the next morning I was terrified

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<v Speaker 2>to come out of the trees, out of the tree stand,

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<v Speaker 2>but I finally did. My friend came got me. We

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<v Speaker 2>went down to look for footprints. We didn't see any footprints,

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<v Speaker 2>but I could see where it went into the trees,

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<v Speaker 2>and we went back to check it out to see

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<v Speaker 2>if it left anything. There was weirdly, just a bucket

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<v Speaker 2>hanging on the tree there, but it was full of

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<v Speaker 2>pine straw, so I don't know. I think maybe my

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<v Speaker 2>family had left that up there, but it did run

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<v Speaker 2>in that area and it shook that big tree that

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<v Speaker 2>the bucket was hanging on. We walked down to see

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<v Speaker 2>where it came out of the trees, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>really funny because I saw the trail where it came out.

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<v Speaker 2>It looked no bigger than something a fox might use.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the branches were totally closed down around the trail,

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<v Speaker 2>but it very low to the ground. You could see

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<v Speaker 2>where something has been walking in and out. I never

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<v Speaker 2>would have thought something that large could have come out

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<v Speaker 2>of that, which was kind of strange. And yeah, after that,

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<v Speaker 2>I went over to Germany and spent some time over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Stationed over there, and it was kind of boring going

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<v Speaker 2>into the woods there. Other than worrying about bombs that

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<v Speaker 2>have been dropped during World War Two. Yeah, no, sascotch

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<v Speaker 2>there soon.

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<v Speaker 1>During that time with your your hunting buddy there did

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<v Speaker 1>that individual did did they see anything as well? Anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that? Okay, what was the year you would say

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<v Speaker 1>for that one?

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<v Speaker 2>That was nineteen eighty nine. It was right before stationed overseas,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's see, that would December. I don't know the

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<v Speaker 2>exact date, so that.

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<v Speaker 1>Puts you out around twenty four ish twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, gotcha, that's right. I'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I just have one or two other questions about that

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<v Speaker 1>during the time, the general time when you had that experience,

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<v Speaker 1>was anything else weird about the woods? Were there any

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<v Speaker 1>out of place sounds or lack of sounds or smells

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>There no sounds there. There was a lot of deer footprints,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, you know, no sounds, no deer that night. No,

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<v Speaker 2>there was nothing odd about it. It was like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>degrees so nothing was moving. It seemed like nothing was

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<v Speaker 2>moving outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. And you said you could see the shape of

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<v Speaker 1>the body kind of you couldn't really see details, but

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<v Speaker 1>were there any even from the silhouette? Were there any

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<v Speaker 1>details that you remember where it's like, oh, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that about it, and that was like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it was basically it was kind of large, large chest.

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<v Speaker 2>It slumped over just a little bit as it walked,

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<v Speaker 2>and then when I picked the safety it, it's leg

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<v Speaker 2>stayed straight, but its body kind of turned. It's after

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<v Speaker 2>a torset, turned towards me as it walked backwards. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of funny how quickly it walked backwards,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought. But that's the only thing really that My

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<v Speaker 2>family's kind of large, Like my dad was really large,

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<v Speaker 2>but it seemed a little bigger than my dad. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all I can remember. My dad was like six'. Four oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, yeah and he's so even even taller than your,

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<v Speaker 1>dad because you said it was it could be six

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<v Speaker 1>to seven feet. Tall that's interesting detail that you shared as,

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<v Speaker 1>well because from what we know, about, uh the sasquatch

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<v Speaker 1>so far is that it cannot turn its head when

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<v Speaker 1>it looks to the. Side it has to turn its

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders as, well, Right so that that totally makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>that you would have experienced. That.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm. NOW i posted out siding ON bfro in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and, four and one of the REASONS i. Did

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<v Speaker 2>that is BECAUSE i was reading through some of the

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<v Speaker 2>other sidings and hearing about the tree. SHAKING i had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea that was anything at the. TIME i, mean

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<v Speaker 2>this is Pre internet when that's, Happened so you, KNOW

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<v Speaker 2>i wasn't aware of tree shaking and some of the wood.

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<v Speaker 2>KNOCKING i wasn't aware of those things until later. On,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's part of the REASON i hear Because i've

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<v Speaker 2>learned a lot from your shadow just listening to other.

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<v Speaker 2>People that's.

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<v Speaker 1>AWESOME i, mean that is one Of it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>reason THAT i started the, show but it is a

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<v Speaker 1>reason that is coming to the. Forefront that people are

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<v Speaker 1>learning stuff from what they're listening to and it's helping

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<v Speaker 1>out other people because of, that and that's just really.

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<v Speaker 1>COOL i enjoy that this this area In. Texas you,

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<v Speaker 1>know we we're saying General, texas but have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>looked to see if there's other encounters that are reported

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe the general?

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<v Speaker 2>Region oh, yeah, yeah actually THAT i think it's squatch

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<v Speaker 2>floitation The bigfoot episode On Finding. Bigfoot, okay squatch. Ploitation

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<v Speaker 2>that's the exact area these things. Happened and as a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of, fact their town hall was in a place

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<v Speaker 2>Called Big Pines, lodge which is just a few miles

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<v Speaker 2>away from my family, property and there's really some good

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<v Speaker 2>staging areas if if people wanted to go out and

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<v Speaker 2>try to make contact With.

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<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch oh, Yeah i'm looking at in a. Map it's

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<v Speaker 1>literally right On Cattle. Lake, yeah, yes, absolutely, Yeah, no

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<v Speaker 1>that's that is Between Cattle lake and then further to

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<v Speaker 1>the west Is. Jefferson. Fantastic, yeah that makes total sense

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<v Speaker 1>that that you would have that situation right there in that. Area.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Wow. Yeah, well my grandmother ACTUALLY i skipped over this.

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<v Speaker 2>ONE i didn't really have an, encounter BUT i went

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<v Speaker 2>to see my grandmother in nineteen eighty. Eight it was

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<v Speaker 2>before my hunting. Encounter we're sitting, there this is around six.

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<v Speaker 2>PM i was starting to get evening, time and we

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<v Speaker 2>heard a yell in the woods that sounded, like AND

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<v Speaker 2>i don't want this sound. Bad it sounded like if

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<v Speaker 2>you were watching the Old, westerns like the sounds that

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<v Speaker 2>The natives or The indians would. Make the yells that

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<v Speaker 2>ended sounding exactly like a. Crow AND i asked my

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<v Speaker 2>grandmother and, said what is? That she, SAID i don't,

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<v Speaker 2>know but every EVENING i picked my trash to the

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<v Speaker 2>edge of the woods AND i take a hoe with

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<v Speaker 2>me BECAUSE i feel like something's watching. Me i'm pretty

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<v Speaker 2>sure something was my.

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<v Speaker 1>Goodness so from WHAT i, heard WHAT i heard sound

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<v Speaker 1>like almost like a war, cry and it turned into

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<v Speaker 1>a crow.

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<v Speaker 2>Noise, yes, MAN i have another incident In california actually

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<v Speaker 2>earlier this year that was. SIMILAR i was coming, OUT

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<v Speaker 2>i was traveling AND i was In california and my

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<v Speaker 2>trailer AND i left my trailer BEFORE i sign, up

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<v Speaker 2>closed the, door locked. It THEN i heard a crow

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<v Speaker 2>behind me or an hour behind. Me it sounded real,

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<v Speaker 2>deep you. KNOW i was, like, cool there's an. Owl

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<v Speaker 2>and then off in another, TREE i heard another, out

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<v Speaker 2>but it was like, woo AND i just. SAID i

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<v Speaker 2>just stuck my hand in the air AND i, said

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are. Bad AND i just walked to my

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<v Speaker 2>truck and got in it and took. OFF i didn't even.

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<v Speaker 2>LOOK i didn't want to. See.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Absolutely and that was twenty twenty, five you.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, yes Around april of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Year is that a Northern california or.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of close To. Yosemite actually it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>too far from. That i'll. See i'm looking at my list.

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<v Speaker 2>Here most of the other things happened In. WASHINGTON i

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<v Speaker 2>did have something at the end of last summer In.

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<v Speaker 2>TEXAS i can talk about. That but there's a super

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<v Speaker 2>fun site On Caddo. Lake do you know what that? Is?

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<v Speaker 1>LIKE i don't, actually, yeah if you could share what that.

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<v Speaker 2>IS a super fun site, Is like there's different ones

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<v Speaker 2>in THE, us like if the ground has been concaminated

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<v Speaker 2>by a government, activity it could be, nuclear it could

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<v Speaker 2>Be in this case Around Kaddo, lake it used to

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<v Speaker 2>be an ammunition plant and the job of the Super

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<v Speaker 2>Fun site is for them to go and do clean

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<v Speaker 2>that BEFORE i guess we're turning it to the. Public

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<v Speaker 2>so it's in the process of that right. Now and

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<v Speaker 2>it's laid out like a piur military but it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of laid out like what we call OUR ammo. Dump

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<v Speaker 2>their streets, there they're paved. Streets it almost looked like

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<v Speaker 2>city blocks with no houses on. IT i was driving

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<v Speaker 2>through there AND i heard a really large lamb brake

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<v Speaker 2>And i've come over time to learn that's them just

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<v Speaker 2>saying get out of. HERE i, said, Okay i'm, leaving

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<v Speaker 2>AND i drove. Away but then WHEN i turned around

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<v Speaker 2>and came, BACK i saw and one of the trees

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<v Speaker 2>stuck in the ground upside. DOWN i wasn't very, big

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<v Speaker 2>it's only about five foot, tall BUT i thought it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of. ODD i did see. That. ALSO i was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to go see my land walking back into the,

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<v Speaker 2>woods but it's really bad and. MUDDY i couldn't get back.

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<v Speaker 2>There in my, nephew my nephew's. WIFE i don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if she would be, considered but, anyway my nephew's wife

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<v Speaker 2>was walking with me back, there and she was telling

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<v Speaker 2>me about an event her husband had where he was

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<v Speaker 2>followed out of the woods and when he went back

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<v Speaker 2>the next, day a perfect circle was left in like

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<v Speaker 2>sticks in the area where he heard the. Noise, well

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<v Speaker 2>she was walking with me this day AND i, said,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah there's you, Know i've seen something back. HERE i

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<v Speaker 2>was telling her about, that about the hunting, incident and

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<v Speaker 2>as we came, back a, chicken one of her chickens

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<v Speaker 2>had been snatched up and the feathers were left in

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<v Speaker 2>a perfect, circle and it was really. ODD i tried

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<v Speaker 2>to contact my cousin after that and she didn't talk to.

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<v Speaker 2>Me so they don't talk about this. Stuff SO i

421
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.640
<v Speaker 2>think maybe she got upset THAT i had mentioned anything about.

422
00:25:55.640 --> 00:26:00.440
<v Speaker 2>It probably scared the poor. Girl, oh, absolutely to see

423
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:06.400
<v Speaker 2>her chicken snatched. It probably not. Kid and, yeah YOU'RE

424
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:07.839
<v Speaker 2>i was hyping to move back on my.

425
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Property but IT'S i, mean that area just has so

426
00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Much it has a, rich rich history of bigfoot activity

427
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:19.559
<v Speaker 1>in The Cattle lake. Area for, sure your grandma in

428
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty eight you were talking about did it did

429
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:27.519
<v Speaker 1>she ever share like any did she ever have any

430
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 1>sightings in that area or just like she was ready

431
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 1>for something with that garden hoe just in, case.

432
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.480
<v Speaker 2>She was just ready to protect. Herself he went and

433
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:39.759
<v Speaker 2>talk about. It my dad has told me stories about

434
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:43.559
<v Speaker 2>things that happened. Though, YEAH i MEAN i can discuss

435
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:44.119
<v Speaker 2>that if you would.

436
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, ABSOLUTELY i, MEAN i know it's anything that

437
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you feel comfortable. Sharing it's, uh, okay definitely go, Ahead, okay.

438
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Sure. YEAH i was doing a bio my dad WHEN

439
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:59.000
<v Speaker 2>i was in middle school and he started telling me

440
00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:02.400
<v Speaker 2>ABOUT i think one of the QUESTIONS i asked him

441
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:05.440
<v Speaker 2>the scaredest moments of his, life and he told me

442
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>about being followed out of the woods on the family.

443
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Property what else did he tell? Me, oh he would

444
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:15.839
<v Speaker 2>see things out of the window at, night like going

445
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.680
<v Speaker 2>to the Family it was a pond out. There they

446
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.559
<v Speaker 2>also had a. Barn it would go to the barn.

447
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes he said he'd always see the thing going between

448
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:27.759
<v Speaker 2>the barn and the pond at night through his. Window

449
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:30.440
<v Speaker 2>but that's the only thing he shared it with that

450
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.519
<v Speaker 2>he did tell me about my. Cousins they used to

451
00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:38.400
<v Speaker 2>live in the old family house on the, property and

452
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:43.000
<v Speaker 2>there was a huge. Door this is like a house

453
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 2>that was built in the twenties or, thirties and they

454
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 2>had a huge front. Door they believed the front door

455
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>represented the. Family you, know you have a fabulous front.

456
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Door so they had a huge one with the glass

457
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:56.160
<v Speaker 2>over the top of, it and my aunt and uncle

458
00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.160
<v Speaker 2>saw the top of something's head over the, glass and

459
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.480
<v Speaker 2>this is probably at least seven foot. Up they see

460
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:06.759
<v Speaker 2>the top of something's head and something wiggled the door. Handle,

461
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 2>also my cousin was trying to get rid of some

462
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.640
<v Speaker 2>raccoons that were eating the feed in the, barn so

463
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 2>he slept up in the loft one night and this

464
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.920
<v Speaker 2>thing came in the barn with. Him that's ALL i

465
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:27.279
<v Speaker 2>heard from my dad about, it, Though, wow that would

466
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 2>be interesting that's that's.

467
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Incredible so you're saying that it came in the barn

468
00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:37.599
<v Speaker 1>with him per his? Account, yes, oh, MAN i that's

469
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>that is that is. Wild have you ever talked to

470
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Speaker 1>that cousin directly about?

471
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:46.839
<v Speaker 2>That, no WHEN i was a little, kid he was

472
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:50.359
<v Speaker 2>already in his twenties and he moved. OFF i never

473
00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:52.319
<v Speaker 2>really got to meet him. Much.

474
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha so all these accounts on the same, property what

475
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>years would this? Span are we talking forty fifty years.

476
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.680
<v Speaker 2>OR i would, think, well my dad was born in nineteen,

477
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:12.279
<v Speaker 2>forty so probably in the forties started and THEN i

478
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:16.000
<v Speaker 2>mean last, YEAR i don't, know you can consider it

479
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:20.079
<v Speaker 2>a sighting Or bigfoot related if you want to, say

480
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:27.279
<v Speaker 2>the chicken being snatched. Up it was really. Odd but,

481
00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 2>yeah so, wow so quite some time really it could.

482
00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Go we're talking about potentially eighty years if we're going

483
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>forties to last.

484
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Year but, yeah we round about. There.

485
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:44.559
<v Speaker 1>Wow so that's that's pretty. Fascinating and that is.

486
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>That i'm sure that properties are around there also experienced

487
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. Too, oh without a. Doubt people they're tight

488
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 2>lipped about. It they really are a million Are.

489
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 1>It's a, thing you, Know AND i experienced that WHEN

490
00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:04.519
<v Speaker 1>i got into the. Field WHEN i went out In

491
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>oregon AND i was driving through these small mountain, towns

492
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>people do not want to talk and they want you

493
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>out of, there and which is absolutely. Fine probably didn't

494
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>help THAT i Had california rental plates on two, Anyways

495
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 1>so you were saying that you also had some interesting

496
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:28.559
<v Speaker 1>things happen In washington as.

497
00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, yes and you, KNOW i DON'T i think this is,

498
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.920
<v Speaker 2>well the very first ONE i was with my, daughter

499
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:41.599
<v Speaker 2>and this could have been a. Hoax AND i will

500
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>admit if something could be a. Hoax we were driving

501
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:50.440
<v Speaker 2>From fort to The Whole, rainforest so it was a long.

502
00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:54.400
<v Speaker 2>ROAD i guess it's about twenty miles of forest before

503
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:56.839
<v Speaker 2>you get to the whole, rainforest and that's h oh

504
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.759
<v Speaker 2>if you're ever interested In it's like one of the

505
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.160
<v Speaker 2>only rainforests In. America so we wanted to go see.

506
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:08.119
<v Speaker 2>It we're driving. There, unfortunately The Olympic peninsula is a

507
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>lot bigger than you, expect so it took us a long.

508
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Time it was already dark when we got. There we

509
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.359
<v Speaker 2>were driving along and we came up to a curve

510
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:20.279
<v Speaker 2>in the road and my headlights were shining into the.

511
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Woods and we saw a figure that was brown from

512
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:27.680
<v Speaker 2>head to. Toe it jumped against the tree like it

513
00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>was trying to hide by jumping against the. Tree, MIKE i,

514
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>said did you see that to my? Daughter and she, said,

515
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>yeah it's a guy in a brown coat brown pants sighting.

516
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:46.559
<v Speaker 2>It and this is In. July SO i, said you

517
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:48.400
<v Speaker 2>think it's a hoax and she, said, yeah it was,

518
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.720
<v Speaker 2>somebody somebody dressed, Up so you, know maybe it was a.

519
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Hoax but it's really kind of odd and there was

520
00:31:55.160 --> 00:32:00.839
<v Speaker 2>not a lot of cars on the. Road, yeah it

521
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 2>was kind of a weird encounter.

522
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>That really Makes that's one of those things, where, yeah

523
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.119
<v Speaker 1>it makes you wonder because it's, like it could be

524
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:12.039
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's just messing with, people or you, KNOW

525
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 1>i think you could have actually seen. Something what approximate

526
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:17.759
<v Speaker 1>year was did that take place?

527
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:22.119
<v Speaker 2>In this was twenty, seventeen, okay.

528
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 3>Gotcha and then at around twenty, twenty me and my

529
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 3>friend were Around darrington and we were traveling the forest.

530
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 2>ROAD i had a jeep and we went down this.

531
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Road it was starting to get more, narrow so we

532
00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:44.160
<v Speaker 2>found a turnout and we were turning, back but we

533
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 2>had to do like a five point, turn AND i

534
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:50.519
<v Speaker 2>put it in reverse and backed. Up i'm just about

535
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>ready to go, straight BUT i needed to back up

536
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.200
<v Speaker 2>a couple more. Times SO i put it in reverse

537
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 2>And i'm watching the camera and something passes behind the.

538
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:03.039
<v Speaker 2>CAMERA i could only see it look like from the

539
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:06.519
<v Speaker 2>waist to the knee, down but something passed by the.

540
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Camera AND i told my, FRIEND i, said something's behind.

541
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:11.680
<v Speaker 2>US i moved forward AND i put it in reverse,

542
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.319
<v Speaker 2>again And i'm backed, up and then she started screaming

543
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:18.400
<v Speaker 2>at me because she saw it, Too and, yeah and you,

544
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:21.680
<v Speaker 2>know she's willing to probably talk to you if you.

545
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Wanted BUT i, mean we couldn't definitively say that this

546
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>was a, sasquatch but it was really. Weird the only

547
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>THING i could think it could be is maybe a

548
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 2>large bird flapping its wings and kind of an angle

549
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>that a leg. Is BUT i don't. KNOW i don't

550
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.319
<v Speaker 2>think it was anybody, hoaxed and there's no cars up

551
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 2>there or anything, Sure SO i was trying to get some.

552
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:49.559
<v Speaker 2>PHOTOS i do. PHOTOGRAPHY i think we talked about that,

553
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>before you, know before we started, recording AND i was

554
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>trying to get pictures of what's the name of the

555
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Peak Glacier, peak which is kind of. Hidden it's hard

556
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:03.920
<v Speaker 2>to really See Glacier peak unless you want to, hike

557
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:08.039
<v Speaker 2>AND i take my FAT i do drone, photography SO

558
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:11.719
<v Speaker 2>i was flying my drone trying to get some photos

559
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Of Glacier peak at the.

560
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Time so this this friend that you had in the

561
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>car with. You did she? Then how did she get

562
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>a look at? It was it also in the background

563
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:26.800
<v Speaker 1>back backup camera or was?

564
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:33.239
<v Speaker 2>It, yes, OKAY i have a habit when something scares

565
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 2>me like, THAT i don't even want to. KNOW i

566
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 2>just move. Forward SO i didn't look in my rearview.

567
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 2>MIRROR i didn't want to. SEE i just wanted to

568
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:44.159
<v Speaker 2>get out of.

569
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>There so absolutely that was going to kind of Be

570
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 1>my follow up is that after that, happened then did

571
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>you get out of there as quick as you?

572
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Can or, yes, yeah, okay. Gotcha. Mhm emily laughed about.

573
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 2>It of course afterwards she's here the living daylights out

574
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:07.280
<v Speaker 2>of me by screaming in my ear about. It it

575
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.800
<v Speaker 2>doesn't startle me as. MUCH i will see these things,

576
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 2>anymore but for other people it. Does and, yeah my

577
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:20.079
<v Speaker 2>perception of this was this was a juvenile side squatch

578
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:24.360
<v Speaker 2>trying to show. Off my next sighting was really cool

579
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.159
<v Speaker 2>AND i feel LIKE i was communicating with now on miss.

580
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Sighting this is in twenty twenty. One it's a lake

581
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:36.559
<v Speaker 2>on the. PENINSULA i won't disclose the. LOCATION i got

582
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 2>to the site AND i had just gotten The Starlink

583
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.280
<v Speaker 2>internet satellite back back then AND i was trying it,

584
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 2>out SO i. Stopped it was kind of a, clearing

585
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:48.760
<v Speaker 2>but there was a lot of brush on the side

586
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 2>of the trees and it was A douglas fur. TREE

587
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>i wanted to take some photos of The douglas fur,

588
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.599
<v Speaker 2>tree BUT i stopped and WHEN i got out to

589
00:35:56.639 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 2>set at The starlink art some rustling around than the,

590
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.920
<v Speaker 2>brush AND i started talking to. IT i, Said i'm

591
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>just here to take pictures of the tree over here

592
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:10.840
<v Speaker 2>and to test my. Equipment out called it THAT i

593
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 2>heard no other. Sounds for a, WHILE i flew my.

594
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:18.559
<v Speaker 2>DRONE i took some pictures of The douglas fur but

595
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:20.679
<v Speaker 2>then WHEN i started flying, BACK i noticed that there's

596
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 2>snows still on top of the mountains and the lake

597
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 2>and the fore. Ground SO i was, like, oh that

598
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 2>w make a lovely. Photo SO i turned my drone

599
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:30.679
<v Speaker 2>and started flying over, there and THEN i heard some

600
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.920
<v Speaker 2>stomping on the ground boom, boom, boom And i'm, like, okay, okay,

601
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.480
<v Speaker 2>OKAY i will bring it. Back SO i brought my

602
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:40.800
<v Speaker 2>dram back and it. STOPPED i heard nothing else the

603
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.920
<v Speaker 2>whole TIME i was, There SO i feel they do

604
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:50.440
<v Speaker 2>have some level or ability to communicate and understand. Us

605
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.119
<v Speaker 2>the end of the. Brush let me tell you about the.

606
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Brush it's kind of about six foot. Tall it's kind

607
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:00.360
<v Speaker 2>of a it almost looks like. Reeds it's like a

608
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.400
<v Speaker 2>tan color In Washington. State you, know if you have a,

609
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:06.960
<v Speaker 2>clearing it seems like the brush just gets really out

610
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>of hand and. TALL i felt like the hide in that,

611
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:16.199
<v Speaker 2>stuff it, seems and that comes into play in another

612
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:20.039
<v Speaker 2>ENCOUNTER i had in a few. Minutes but let's, SEE

613
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:22.760
<v Speaker 2>i did got a lake cornault AND i had a

614
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.400
<v Speaker 2>really weird. Encounter you can't even call it in an,

615
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:32.079
<v Speaker 2>encounter but something strange. HAPPENED i wanted to see how

616
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:36.039
<v Speaker 2>tall The douglas fir trees. There they're like the, tallest

617
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.559
<v Speaker 2>some of the tallest in the, nation like three hundred feet.

618
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Tall SO i wanted to take my drone and measure

619
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:46.719
<v Speaker 2>the height of the. Tree SO i saw one in the.

620
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 2>Forest SO i parked on the side of the road

621
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 2>and went, in AND i noticed there was a stump

622
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.880
<v Speaker 2>near there that was really. LARGE a large tree had

623
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>been cut down, there and there was some brush around

624
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.719
<v Speaker 2>it and, everything BUT i, mean this stump was big

625
00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:05.719
<v Speaker 2>enough to park a large truck. On it was pretty good. Size, well,

626
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Anyway i'm finding my drone up to the top of the.

627
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Tree it was two hundred something. Feet THEN i landed

628
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.239
<v Speaker 2>the drone and then in my HEAD i had a

629
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 2>clear dog get out of, here AND i mean almost

630
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.039
<v Speaker 2>LIKE i could hear. It it was that clear in my.

631
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Head And i'm, like, oh, Okay i'm just taking. Photos

632
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.800
<v Speaker 2>and THEN i heard what's? THAT i, said this just

633
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>a drone AND i said it, verbally it's just a.

634
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Drone and then he said AND i, SAID i was

635
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.920
<v Speaker 2>measuring the, tree just looking at the, tree and they, said,

636
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:44.880
<v Speaker 2>okay go, ahead AND i, said like they were giving

637
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:46.880
<v Speaker 2>me permission to fly it, again And i'm, like, No i'm.

638
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:53.559
<v Speaker 2>LEAVING i don't know about Mind speaker or anything like.

639
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 2>That i've not really subscribed to, that but that was

640
00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>really odd to have those. FEELINGS i don't know if

641
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.239
<v Speaker 2>there's just there on the back of the neck like

642
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.119
<v Speaker 2>you're indeeder leave right. Now but then when they realized

643
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.360
<v Speaker 2>WHAT i was, doing they felt comfortable with. That it

644
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 2>that WAS i don't know if that's the weirdest encounter

645
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:17.960
<v Speaker 2>That i've, had and that was Around Lake. QUINAULT i

646
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.960
<v Speaker 2>have never seen anything, there but that, Was, yeah that

647
00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:29.320
<v Speaker 2>was very struggling to. Me then my last, encounter, actually,

648
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.320
<v Speaker 2>now let me tell you the other. ONE i think

649
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:36.239
<v Speaker 2>it was in twenty twenty. TWO i was driving Between

650
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Mount Saint helens and, uh let's SEE i throw down

651
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:42.960
<v Speaker 2>that road. NUMBER i can tell you the actual forest road.

652
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:47.599
<v Speaker 2>NUMBER i was driving between or Behind Mount Saint helens

653
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 2>And Mount. ADAMS i was driving between, that going from

654
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.639
<v Speaker 2>the north side to the south side on some of

655
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:57.159
<v Speaker 2>the forest, roads AND i actually camped in there. Overnight

656
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.599
<v Speaker 2>but WHEN i, STOPPED i was trying to get some

657
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:03.519
<v Speaker 2>pictures of the. Mountain this was still during the, daytime

658
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:06.719
<v Speaker 2>AND i heard a very large limb. Snap the limb

659
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.639
<v Speaker 2>must have been at least two inches stick because it's

660
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:14.400
<v Speaker 2>a very hefty, snap AND i knew that it was,

661
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:18.360
<v Speaker 2>WELL i felt it was sasquatch telling me to leave

662
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:21.679
<v Speaker 2>and move on AND i, said, Okay i'm, leaving and

663
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:23.960
<v Speaker 2>then it started coming down the hill towards. Me and

664
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:27.320
<v Speaker 2>THEN i do carry SOMETIMES i carry a. FIREARM i

665
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:31.920
<v Speaker 2>grabbed the firearm and then it stopped and that was

666
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.880
<v Speaker 2>the LAST i had. THERE i did camp overnight out there.

667
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Afterwards that was Around Eight canyon.

668
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Area oh, wow so you were you were camping around

669
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:43.039
<v Speaker 1>the Eight canyon.

670
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:48.639
<v Speaker 2>Area, yes, wow And. SUNNY i do all these things

671
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:54.079
<v Speaker 2>along BECAUSE i do most of these things along because

672
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:55.679
<v Speaker 2>WHEN i go out with someone And i'm trying to

673
00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:58.119
<v Speaker 2>take photos and, stuff it kind OF i feel Like

674
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:02.280
<v Speaker 2>i'm also SOMETIMES i have to watch out for. Them

675
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:04.800
<v Speaker 2>i've spent a lot of times in time in the

676
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:08.639
<v Speaker 2>woods from WHEN i was a child and, now and

677
00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.480
<v Speaker 2>sometimes people do things That i'm, like, hey don't, go

678
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.920
<v Speaker 2>don't go over. There there're you, know mountain lions and

679
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:20.159
<v Speaker 2>things like. That so being mindful of. THINGS i, mean

680
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:22.599
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't go in the ocean if there's great whites

681
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 2>when in, There so you got to be careful in

682
00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:31.679
<v Speaker 2>the forest. Too there's things out there that can harm, you.

683
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:33.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh one hundred. Percent AND i think that's an important

684
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:36.760
<v Speaker 1>thing to bring, up is you, know people are going

685
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.159
<v Speaker 1>to go out looking for bigfoot in these. Areas these

686
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>areas are very unforgiving and you've got to be you,

687
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>know worast case, scenario you, know prepared for other predators as,

688
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Well like there are cougars out there and they can

689
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.320
<v Speaker 1>really come right after you and not, care so you

690
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>have to be prepared for. That So i'm glad that

691
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.639
<v Speaker 1>you know you are prepared and you have your you,

692
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>know military, backgrounds SO i definitely are prepared with the right,

693
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Gear so that is good to.

694
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:11.039
<v Speaker 2>HEAR i try, to BUT i do always end up

695
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:13.079
<v Speaker 2>because people have asked to go out with me that

696
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:16.320
<v Speaker 2>WHEN i usually go out And i'm. It you, know

697
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:18.559
<v Speaker 2>WHEN i was driving my, JEEP i got some pretty

698
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:21.320
<v Speaker 2>narrow roads on some shelf, roads and there's a lot

699
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 2>of people that don't want to do. That so, Yeah

700
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:27.639
<v Speaker 2>i'm trying to be mindful of. It IF i go

701
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:29.880
<v Speaker 2>with someone who's not gonna want to do these, things

702
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:33.679
<v Speaker 2>that it's going to really prevent me from getting the

703
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:37.079
<v Speaker 2>photos and things THAT i. Want SO i try to

704
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.840
<v Speaker 2>let people know Where i'm, going but you, know SOMETIMES

705
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:45.199
<v Speaker 2>i take a turn That i'm not supposed to by

706
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the way that the limb BREAK i got at The

707
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Super fun site was approximately it sounded like a two inch,

708
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Limb so it's, like if you hear a good hefty limb,

709
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:57.840
<v Speaker 2>break then there's a chance it could be. SASQUATCHED i

710
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.159
<v Speaker 2>was listening to your show this morning AND i heard

711
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:03.119
<v Speaker 2>you know that they like. MUSIC i don't know what

712
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>episode it, was but if you play rock and roll,

713
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.280
<v Speaker 2>role they might leave you. Alone ALL i tried that.

714
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Before that didn't. WORK i Played hollie To hell by

715
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:16.079
<v Speaker 2>MAYBE i can't say, that but by a, group and

716
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:19.119
<v Speaker 2>something was coming towards me When i'm playing, that So i'm, like,

717
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.679
<v Speaker 2>OKAY i turned it up a little, louder but it

718
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:24.559
<v Speaker 2>still was, coming SO i turned it. Off that didn't.

719
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Work SO i don't know if music is the way

720
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:29.679
<v Speaker 2>to keep the thing away from.

721
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>You it's it's a really interesting topic that does get

722
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:37.239
<v Speaker 1>brought up every once in a, while and that's interesting

723
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that that particular song had that had that effect. THERE

724
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:45.519
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people think it might have to do

725
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.519
<v Speaker 1>with the beat of this. SONG a lot of there

726
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:54.079
<v Speaker 1>was let's, See Henry farnzoni used to use the Song

727
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>ballero because the type of beat it had was supposed

728
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 1>very effective in bringing in the. Sasquatch so take that

729
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:10.039
<v Speaker 1>for entertainment uses, Only but, yeah that does come up

730
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>on the show every once in a.

731
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:16.159
<v Speaker 2>While What i've, actually you, know What i've been doing

732
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.880
<v Speaker 2>lately is not trying, music but talking to the forest

733
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:25.320
<v Speaker 2>as a, therapist doing forest, bathing which is just being

734
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:29.239
<v Speaker 2>present in the moment in the. Forest it's very relaxing

735
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:34.360
<v Speaker 2>and being mindful of the things you're. DOING i think

736
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 2>that is communicating a lot to the. Sasquatch when you

737
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:42.039
<v Speaker 2>go out and they see you not you, know cutting

738
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:46.440
<v Speaker 2>down a tree or with a firearm on your, side they,

739
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:52.519
<v Speaker 2>THEY i don't, KNOW i guess respect that some and

740
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:55.920
<v Speaker 2>probably more likely to have a citing iss you are

741
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.960
<v Speaker 2>out there and actually conversing with the. Forest.

742
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay that is something THAT i did try WHEN i

743
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:05.079
<v Speaker 1>was out in the woods in Oak ridge this time

744
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.280
<v Speaker 1>down In, oregon BECAUSE i was, like you, Know i've

745
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:11.400
<v Speaker 1>never tried, THIS i just want to try. It AND

746
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:14.519
<v Speaker 1>i was in an area up there AND i, said

747
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:19.800
<v Speaker 1>what DID i, say if if you're, here can you

748
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.559
<v Speaker 1>let me? Know AND i would say a few seconds

749
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:31.800
<v Speaker 1>after words about how maybe thirty yards into the woods

750
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.480
<v Speaker 1>heard a you, know triple. KNOCK i was, Like, oh

751
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:37.679
<v Speaker 1>that's that's. Weird that's really. Weird SO i was, Like

752
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.760
<v Speaker 1>i'm gonna try it. Again did the same thing again

753
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:41.800
<v Speaker 1>WHERE i actually said it out, loud and then there

754
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:46.159
<v Speaker 1>was return knocks a few seconds. Later very very. Strange

755
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:49.039
<v Speaker 1>but it might be SOMETHING i start to do more.

756
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Myself, yeah that would be. GREAT i, SEE i have

757
00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.320
<v Speaker 2>one more sighting AND i think it was the most

758
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.960
<v Speaker 2>meaningful That i've ever. Had it was my last, one

759
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:10.360
<v Speaker 2>and it was in The Olympic National forest AND i

760
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:16.039
<v Speaker 2>went AND i was going to take some pictures of some.

761
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:18.360
<v Speaker 2>LIKING i saw some liking on the. Ground it's like

762
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 2>in some places on The Olympic, peninsula the liking just

763
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:27.079
<v Speaker 2>blankets to the ground like a. Carpet and if you

764
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.039
<v Speaker 2>ever were able to go out and walk barefooted on

765
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:33.800
<v Speaker 2>it or anything like, that it's. Amazing it's like a shag.

766
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Carpet SO i was trying to get out and take

767
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:41.360
<v Speaker 2>pictures of, that but THEN i noticed a. Footprint it

768
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.280
<v Speaker 2>could have just been a person's. Footprint it was a

769
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:46.840
<v Speaker 2>pretty large, one probably about fifteen inches, long AND i

770
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.880
<v Speaker 2>took a photo of. IT i went to the. FOREST

771
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.159
<v Speaker 2>i saw THAT i was taking some, pictures AND i

772
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.800
<v Speaker 2>started telling sasquatch or talking to the, forest, saying you,

773
00:46:55.840 --> 00:47:00.760
<v Speaker 2>KNOW i want to protect. You you, KNOW i Feel

774
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>i've seen some of the damage from, clearcutting how it

775
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.320
<v Speaker 2>just drains the moisture out of the. Land WHEN i

776
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:11.320
<v Speaker 2>would be driving All mountaineer where they clearcut you could

777
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:15.400
<v Speaker 2>just see the water just pouring out from the. Roots

778
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.119
<v Speaker 2>and you, KNOW i was talking to the forest, Saying

779
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 2>i'm sorry we cut all your trees, down and you

780
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>KNOW i shouldn't. HAVE i guess apologized for, that BUT

781
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:29.840
<v Speaker 2>i do realize that we try to turn a profit from,

782
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:35.159
<v Speaker 2>things AND i was just explaining, that AND i took my.

783
00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Photos THEN i got in my truck And i'm starting

784
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 2>to drive away AND i look over to the right

785
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:46.559
<v Speaker 2>AND i can see the mountains between the, trees but

786
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.960
<v Speaker 2>from like a huge rock, THERE i see a sasquatch pop.

787
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Up he popped his head up and he was like

788
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 2>his fur was kind of gray color and his scam was,

789
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:03.039
<v Speaker 2>tan and he was doing like a push up, physician

790
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:06.199
<v Speaker 2>like he had his arms out to his side pushing himself.

791
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Up his head was kind of wlocky looking on a square,

792
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:13.679
<v Speaker 2>shape but he had liking on his head and liking

793
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:18.480
<v Speaker 2>on his, shoulder and the liking was falling off as

794
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 2>he was coming. Up AND i looked at him for

795
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:24.159
<v Speaker 2>about two, seconds AND i was already starting to move

796
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:26.159
<v Speaker 2>in my, truck SO i looked ahead to see WHERE

797
00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:27.519
<v Speaker 2>i was and make SURE i was on the, road

798
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:32.960
<v Speaker 2>AND i looked back again and it was. Gone, Afterwards

799
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:36.000
<v Speaker 2>i'm driving down the road for a couple of miles

800
00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.079
<v Speaker 2>AND i come up to a place where there's a

801
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:43.360
<v Speaker 2>bunch of birch trees and they kind of covered the

802
00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:47.159
<v Speaker 2>forest roads make it almost look like a, tunnel AND

803
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.039
<v Speaker 2>i wanted to get some photos of, that SO i

804
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.519
<v Speaker 2>stopped my, truck and as soon AS i, did a

805
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.079
<v Speaker 2>deer at the about a quarter mile away up, ahead

806
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:57.880
<v Speaker 2>seen out of the, woods turned around and looked back

807
00:48:57.920 --> 00:48:59.679
<v Speaker 2>in the woods like it wanted to go back in,

808
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:02.719
<v Speaker 2>there but it was scared to. WELL i kind of

809
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:06.760
<v Speaker 2>got a sense that it had followed, me SO i

810
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:09.280
<v Speaker 2>took my drone and a lot of the brush was back.

811
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:11.400
<v Speaker 2>There it was kind of, high like six foot, tall

812
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:14.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of like the BRUSH i told you about and

813
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.559
<v Speaker 2>that other encounter WHERE i was communicating with them WHILE

814
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:19.280
<v Speaker 2>i took my drone AND i flew it. OVER i

815
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:21.039
<v Speaker 2>was going to make sure there was none in there

816
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 2>BEFORE i was taking. PHOTOS i didn't want anything to

817
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:26.039
<v Speaker 2>pop out on. Me SO i was flying it. Over

818
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:29.639
<v Speaker 2>the deer was still standing, there looking into the woods

819
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:31.800
<v Speaker 2>like it wanted to go back out out in the.

820
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:34.719
<v Speaker 2>WOODS i think maybe it had a fawn in there or. Something,

821
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:38.800
<v Speaker 2>well it started coming towards. Me the deer was just

822
00:49:38.840 --> 00:49:42.480
<v Speaker 2>walking towards, me and it got real. Close And i've

823
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:44.280
<v Speaker 2>seen what deer can do when they were up and

824
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.559
<v Speaker 2>hit you with your. Hoofs SO i grabbed a hunting

825
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 2>knife AND i, SAID i, pointed AND i, pointed AND i,

826
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:54.440
<v Speaker 2>said go that's kind of they get. Away and so

827
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:55.800
<v Speaker 2>it walked back to where it came out of the,

828
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:58.119
<v Speaker 2>woods looked at the. Woods then it turned around and

829
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:01.519
<v Speaker 2>went to the other side of the, road And i'm, like,

830
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay i'm. Leaving SO i got my. TRUCK i took,

831
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:09.679
<v Speaker 2>off AND i felt like it was following me in

832
00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:13.559
<v Speaker 2>the woods AS i was. DRIVING i just kept going

833
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:17.039
<v Speaker 2>and got out of. There, so which is really odd

834
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:18.800
<v Speaker 2>because that meant it would have been running through the

835
00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:20.039
<v Speaker 2>woods that are like twenty miles an.

836
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Hour really this has affected your entire, life you, know

837
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.519
<v Speaker 1>going back to when you were a very young child

838
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>and you finally are able to you, know have that that.

839
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Sighting how did you feel during that sighting and then

840
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:36.679
<v Speaker 1>and right after? It how did that affect you?

841
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Emotionally, DAD i don't. Know it's LIKE i kind of

842
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:48.280
<v Speaker 2>felt like it was trying to communicate with, me because

843
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:51.039
<v Speaker 2>the thing, IS i was taking pictures of the lock

844
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.440
<v Speaker 2>in and AS i look over AND i see this

845
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:55.360
<v Speaker 2>thing come up with like and falling off of, IT

846
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:58.599
<v Speaker 2>i think it was acknowledging the fact that that's WHAT

847
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:02.840
<v Speaker 2>i was, doing and it was allowing me to see.

848
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:06.519
<v Speaker 2>IT i felt like it was intentional on its, part

849
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:11.159
<v Speaker 2>and typically they. DO i think if you see, them

850
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:15.159
<v Speaker 2>it's on their. Terms USUALLY i Think i've gotten a

851
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.480
<v Speaker 2>drop on them, before but it's typically they're allowing you

852
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:21.679
<v Speaker 2>to see. It like WHEN i had a gun in my,

853
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:23.880
<v Speaker 2>HAND i THINK i got to drop on. It it

854
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:28.400
<v Speaker 2>didn't KNOW i was. There but normally they can be

855
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:30.599
<v Speaker 2>standing just a few feet off the trail and you

856
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:33.440
<v Speaker 2>walk beside them and you won't even know they're. There

857
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:40.199
<v Speaker 2>they usually hide in the weeds or the reeds and

858
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:43.280
<v Speaker 2>In louisiana And. Texas Around Keddow, lake there's a lot

859
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:47.360
<v Speaker 2>of long leaf pines and sometimes you can drive along

860
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:50.039
<v Speaker 2>and if you see a dead pine tree that's tan

861
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.440
<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of tan long leaf long leaves on,

862
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:56.760
<v Speaker 2>it it looks like. Fur, SO i mean they can

863
00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:00.559
<v Speaker 2>easily hide in that. Stuff you won't even know that. There.

864
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:06.760
<v Speaker 1>INTERESTING i know that a lot of people will have

865
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.039
<v Speaker 1>really different responses after they have that first, sighting and

866
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it goes FROM i want to have a sighting, again

867
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.199
<v Speaker 1>or NOW i know they're real AND i can't go

868
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.320
<v Speaker 1>back into the woods AND i never want to see that.

869
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:27.679
<v Speaker 1>Again where would you put yourself on you, know was

870
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it more closer to the let's have another sighting or

871
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:34.280
<v Speaker 1>more close to, like, yeah this is totally freaked me.

872
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:39.360
<v Speaker 2>OUT i Mean i'll still go in the. Forest but

873
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.320
<v Speaker 2>here's WHAT i typically, do and my friends have COMMON

874
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:46.039
<v Speaker 2>i just LIKE i usually don't leave my truck too far.

875
00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Away so my friends asked me to do a several

876
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:53.519
<v Speaker 2>day hike And i'm, like, NO i don't know about,

877
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:58.519
<v Speaker 2>that but if you want to go AM i jeep

878
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 2>to some bag list of, Places i'm fine with that

879
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:04.599
<v Speaker 2>BECAUSE i can get in it and take off and you,

880
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:06.199
<v Speaker 2>know if it wants to come and pound on my

881
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:09.880
<v Speaker 2>vehicle or, whatever then we'll take care of that incident

882
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:13.599
<v Speaker 2>when it. Happens you, know IF i carry a, firearm you,

883
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:16.000
<v Speaker 2>KNOW i read The Daniel boone account AND i would

884
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:19.920
<v Speaker 2>do the same that he did with shooting in the. Face.

885
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:27.360
<v Speaker 1>YEAH i think, that you, know the way that you

886
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:31.039
<v Speaker 1>view things as is a good middle ground where if

887
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>if it happens where you have to protect, yourself you

888
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:38.320
<v Speaker 1>are more than able to do so and able to do.

889
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 1>That but it's not a thing where you are actively

890
00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:43.239
<v Speaker 1>going out into the woods and you're, Like, Okay i'm

891
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.119
<v Speaker 1>going to take take this out and you know put

892
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it INTO. Cm, no we're not going to do.

893
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:54.599
<v Speaker 2>That, yeah but, NO i don't advocate for killing. ONE i,

894
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 2>mean do we really need to kill one to prove it's?

895
00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.360
<v Speaker 2>There can we do it a different? WAY i think we.

896
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Can you, know it just takes willingness to lower your

897
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:09.320
<v Speaker 2>guard to go out and speak to this thing through the.

898
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Forest if you communicate your intent and be truthful about,

899
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:19.639
<v Speaker 2>IT i think it will stew. ITSELF i won't also

900
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:23.519
<v Speaker 2>mention the fire was kind OF i have kind of

901
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 2>developed a theory even before this that maybe either a

902
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:32.599
<v Speaker 2>fur is either translucent or potentially can change color like

903
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:36.440
<v Speaker 2>an octopus can change, color or other animals can do

904
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:44.840
<v Speaker 2>so to confuse our. VISION i think it's very possible that,

905
00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:48.960
<v Speaker 2>that you, know that's because the fur looked kind of

906
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:51.920
<v Speaker 2>odd to. Me it's kind of a gray, color but

907
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:54.039
<v Speaker 2>almost like a translucent.

908
00:54:54.119 --> 00:55:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Gray that that is really. INTERESTING i think that the

909
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:10.119
<v Speaker 1>normal human does not realize how incredible even just the

910
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:14.239
<v Speaker 1>animals of this world are and what they can. Do for,

911
00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.679
<v Speaker 1>EXAMPLE i just learned about a new frog the other

912
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.800
<v Speaker 1>day On National geographic called THE i think glass, frog

913
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and what it does is it takes all of it's

914
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:26.400
<v Speaker 1>almost all of its blood and puts it into its

915
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:30.400
<v Speaker 1>liver so that it becomes almost translucent to hide from.

916
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Predators crazy, stuff.

917
00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Right So i've never heard of.

918
00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:39.840
<v Speaker 1>That, yes it's you check it. Out it's a wild.

919
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:43.559
<v Speaker 1>One but that being, said as you, mentioned like the,

920
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:48.239
<v Speaker 1>octopus there are so, many you, know things that are

921
00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:52.239
<v Speaker 1>in the natural world that can do weird. STUFF i

922
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:54.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's out of the question that that bigfoot

923
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:57.559
<v Speaker 1>can do some some weird stuff to hide as. WELL

924
00:55:57.679 --> 00:55:59.599
<v Speaker 1>i don't, know maybe maybe someday we'll be able to

925
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:00.400
<v Speaker 1>figure that out for.

926
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Sure but, yeah absolutely. Absolutely let's, SEE i do have

927
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:12.840
<v Speaker 2>MY BFRs siding is the sighting numbers eighty one oh. Seven,

928
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:17.400
<v Speaker 2>okay if you're ever interested wants you're trying to find

929
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the forest roads THAT i had wrote those. Down, okay

930
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:25.039
<v Speaker 2>someone that ever wants to, GO i, mean if they

931
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:27.320
<v Speaker 2>snap lombs on me And i'll give their location away

932
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:31.239
<v Speaker 2>and there we go the. Road, Okay So Forest road

933
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:34.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty five and that goes Between Mount Saint helens And Mount.

934
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Adams it's some of the most remote areas that you're

935
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:41.119
<v Speaker 2>going to find in THE.

936
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Us how long does it take to make that trip

937
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:49.880
<v Speaker 1>across From Mount Saint helens To adams on that?

938
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Road let's. SEE i started probably around noon and didn't

939
00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:03.719
<v Speaker 2>finish until the next, morning SO i stayed overnight AND

940
00:57:03.880 --> 00:57:08.199
<v Speaker 2>i went from there down to The Lahar. Reviewpoint it

941
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:11.039
<v Speaker 2>was actually a nice area, there and that's really close

942
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:14.400
<v Speaker 2>to Eight, canyon and also Eight cave is near there,

943
00:57:14.440 --> 00:57:18.960
<v Speaker 2>too Which i've read about A k Eight. Cave it's

944
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:22.159
<v Speaker 2>from WHAT i read in the, past it was like

945
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:25.760
<v Speaker 2>named after a Boy scout troop And i'm, like, yeah

946
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:31.079
<v Speaker 2>but why were the Boy scouts named eight, exactly so

947
00:57:31.960 --> 00:57:36.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of blows a hole in that. Story but the

948
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:38.960
<v Speaker 2>place WHERE i think would really make if you can

949
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:42.199
<v Speaker 2>get in there a good staging area In texas is

950
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:49.000
<v Speaker 2>The Longhorn Army Ammo. Plant you've got a Great Star

951
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:53.320
<v Speaker 2>ranch is right On Caddo lake with just be careful

952
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:56.880
<v Speaker 2>if you go out, there don't steal the. Moss if

953
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.920
<v Speaker 2>people listen decide to go To Star, ranch don't steal

954
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:03.719
<v Speaker 2>moss from the. Trees once you tear it off to

955
00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:06.840
<v Speaker 2>take home, it you, know it doesn't replace that. Quickly

956
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:09.960
<v Speaker 2>so there's some beautiful moss on the trees out, there

957
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:14.199
<v Speaker 2>AND i think that also helps them hide.

958
00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:19.639
<v Speaker 1>To, now is that an area that's open to the

959
00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:20.679
<v Speaker 1>public or.

960
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:24.760
<v Speaker 2>It Is nobody goes out there, either WHICH i think

961
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:28.960
<v Speaker 2>that's why it's been kept so. Beautiful it is through

962
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:32.320
<v Speaker 2>The Army Ammo, plant and they could close the gates,

963
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:37.480
<v Speaker 2>eventually you, know if people started destroying the. Stuff but but,

964
00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:41.199
<v Speaker 2>yeah IT'S i, mean it's a really large. Area nobody

965
00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:45.119
<v Speaker 2>goes in. There it's very kind of gives you a remote.

966
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Feeling and you do have late access there, too like

967
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:49.880
<v Speaker 2>if you wanted to kayak or.

968
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Whatnot that's that's pretty. Cool something definitely to check. Out you,

969
00:58:56.679 --> 00:58:59.440
<v Speaker 1>know as, always any any area that's talked about on the,

970
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:02.840
<v Speaker 1>show do you do diligence to check it out before

971
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:07.559
<v Speaker 1>you just go and be prepared for. Anything really make

972
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:09.280
<v Speaker 1>sure you have stuff with.

973
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:11.119
<v Speaker 2>You there's a lot of bogs back there.

974
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Too, yeah, gotcha, gotcha lot of.

975
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Bogs, okay you.

976
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Have had some just incredible stuff happened over the, years

977
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's cool how you've been able to check out

978
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:31.960
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot activity in different areas of THE. Us would you

979
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:36.519
<v Speaker 1>say that there's a part of THE us that you've

980
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:40.519
<v Speaker 1>been focusing on that probably has a better chance of

981
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:44.840
<v Speaker 1>having bigfoot activity or has it been pretty much steady

982
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:45.679
<v Speaker 1>in all the different.

983
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Areas, no you, Know i've not really been focused on finding.

984
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:57.440
<v Speaker 2>SASQUATCH i would think the AREA i told you, about

985
00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:01.119
<v Speaker 2>like if you did more to go and use to

986
01:00:01.639 --> 01:00:05.320
<v Speaker 2>search as maybe our team or, something The Star ranch.

987
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Area but What i've noticed is like different areas you've

988
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:17.079
<v Speaker 2>got different attitudes from these. Things Like, louisiana you're going

989
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:21.360
<v Speaker 2>to have a little more aggressive. Nature some of them

990
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:23.679
<v Speaker 2>they're a little more. Elusive they don't want to be,

991
01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:29.519
<v Speaker 2>seen so they're a little smaller. Too the ones In,

992
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:35.880
<v Speaker 2>washington the ones especially on the, peninsula are very respectful

993
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:39.760
<v Speaker 2>of your. Space AND i, think if you, know if,

994
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:44.519
<v Speaker 2>SOMEBODY i think those two areas are probably the best

995
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:50.760
<v Speaker 2>out Of Lake area from What i've, SEEN i would

996
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:54.920
<v Speaker 2>go there Or. Washington The olympics Go Olympic National. Park

997
01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:57.840
<v Speaker 2>i've never really felt that they were in the park.

998
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Itself maybe on the. Corners i'm sure it's safer their

999
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:04.280
<v Speaker 2>front for. Them you can go in The Olympic National

1000
01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:06.119
<v Speaker 2>park and the deer will just come up right. Up

1001
01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:08.639
<v Speaker 2>they won't eat out of your hand if you wanted them,

1002
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:11.679
<v Speaker 2>to BUT i would caution against. That they're pretty light

1003
01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:18.239
<v Speaker 2>and the, older so just be. CAREFUL a girl two

1004
01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:22.880
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago it was attacked by cougar up. THERE i

1005
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.400
<v Speaker 2>actually was going to The National park that day and

1006
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:28.320
<v Speaker 2>they as soon AS i got, there they closed the

1007
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:31.280
<v Speaker 2>gates because the girl was. Attacked oh my, god and

1008
01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:35.760
<v Speaker 2>she did. Survive that was like two weeks. Ago it's

1009
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.079
<v Speaker 2>been all over the news. Here oh.

1010
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Wow you never you always got to be. Prepared you

1011
01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:46.119
<v Speaker 1>never know what you're going to run into out. There And,

1012
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:50.360
<v Speaker 1>kay it's been a enjoyable. CONVERSATION i want to make

1013
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.719
<v Speaker 1>sure that you were able to talk about everything that

1014
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you had come to the show today with.

1015
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Just about you, KNOW i did want to touch on

1016
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:04.639
<v Speaker 2>like the trauma that this can induce and, Cause LIKE

1017
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:09.280
<v Speaker 2>i used to have nightmares for this speaking to if

1018
01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:13.800
<v Speaker 2>you do, therapy speaking to a therapist about this can be.

1019
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Important it can help you work through to the traumas of.

1020
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:23.159
<v Speaker 2>This i've had a therapist WHERE i mentioned That i've

1021
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:26.119
<v Speaker 2>seen this and they wanted to refer me to a,

1022
01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:31.800
<v Speaker 2>shaman WHICH i. Refused so it is possible to switch

1023
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:35.920
<v Speaker 2>therapists if you, know if you really need to speak

1024
01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:41.039
<v Speaker 2>about these, things switch to a therapist that's comfortable talking about.

1025
01:02:41.079 --> 01:02:43.559
<v Speaker 2>THIS i do believe that people don't want to talk

1026
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:46.639
<v Speaker 2>about it because they don't really want to come to

1027
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:49.159
<v Speaker 2>the realization that there's something that scary out in the

1028
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:51.360
<v Speaker 2>forest because to a lot of, people this is a.

1029
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Monster but if you can think of it more as

1030
01:02:55.639 --> 01:03:00.880
<v Speaker 2>there's a grizzly, bear they're dangerous. Also but we can't

1031
01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.920
<v Speaker 2>survive this planet with grizzly. Bears we just have to

1032
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:10.360
<v Speaker 2>be mindful of. That you do your due diligence before going,

1033
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:13.639
<v Speaker 2>out make sure you take measures to protect yourself and

1034
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:16.840
<v Speaker 2>be comfortable in the wilderness and not get. Lost let

1035
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:21.239
<v Speaker 2>people know where you're. Going those things are. IMPORTANT i,

1036
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:24.800
<v Speaker 2>also you, know if people are having problems around their,

1037
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:30.239
<v Speaker 2>house there's things you could probably do to get fosquatch

1038
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:31.960
<v Speaker 2>away from your. House AND i would say if you

1039
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<v Speaker 2>can create like a firebreak or cut some trees from

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01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:39.199
<v Speaker 2>around your house to move that out a little, further

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01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:42.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe they will stop hitting on your house or. WHATNOT

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01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:44.440
<v Speaker 2>i would also let them know before you cut, them

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01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.440
<v Speaker 2>you're doing this because of. Them that way they know

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01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:50.320
<v Speaker 2>if they continue to do, it it's more could you get.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut so just do for them to be aware because

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<v Speaker 2>they do have a level of communication that we can

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01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:03.039
<v Speaker 2>communicate that to. Them cameras are always. Good if you

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01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:06.159
<v Speaker 2>want to put cameras in your window and, whatnot that

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01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:07.559
<v Speaker 2>can also help keep them.

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<v Speaker 1>Away and are you talking about game cameras, Specifically, no not.

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<v Speaker 2>REALLY i do believe they can see infrared. LIGHT i

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01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:22.239
<v Speaker 2>mean you can see infrared. Light if you hold your

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01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:25.599
<v Speaker 2>iPhone up and look at something in the, camera you

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01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:28.280
<v Speaker 2>can see the infrared light on your. Camera it's not

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01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:32.840
<v Speaker 2>a far stretch for an animal to have eyesight good

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01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:38.239
<v Speaker 2>enough to see that wavelength of, light just like an

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01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:40.360
<v Speaker 2>eagle can see a lot better than we. CAN i

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01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:44.719
<v Speaker 2>do believe they can see better than we. Can so

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01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:46.519
<v Speaker 2>if you put gam of cameras, UP i don't think

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01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:51.079
<v Speaker 2>it's going to do. Anything it might keep them out

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01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:52.960
<v Speaker 2>of that. SPOT i guess if you maybe do it

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01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:55.320
<v Speaker 2>on the corner of your, house they might stay away

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01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:57.159
<v Speaker 2>from that areas because they don't want to be on the.

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<v Speaker 1>Camera thank you for coming on the, show AND i

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01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:05.079
<v Speaker 1>have a quick question for you after we stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Recording, okay so thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You just wanted to take a mite say thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening to this episode of The Bigfoot society. Podcast

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01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:16.480
<v Speaker 1>kase story is one of those rare encounters that stay

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<v Speaker 1>with you not just because of what she, saw but

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01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:20.760
<v Speaker 1>because of how deeply it's marked her entire. Life so

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<v Speaker 1>huge thanks To kay for her courage and sharing her

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01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:26.360
<v Speaker 1>memories from childhood fear In, louisiana to the haunting silence

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01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:28.599
<v Speaker 1>of The Washington, woods and to the moment she locked

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01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:31.320
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<v Speaker 2>Woods