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<v Speaker 1>It's Tuesday and you're listening to Murder on. My name

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<v Speaker 2>Hey there, I'm Allison and it's now time for Rainbow

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<v Speaker 2>Crimes and hopefully some Unicorn justice.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey there, Warriors, it's me CJ boy. Am I going

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<v Speaker 3>to have an expensive next few months. My youngest niece

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<v Speaker 3>is getting married in May in the Sacramento area. I've

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<v Speaker 3>already booked a room for two nights for my daughter

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<v Speaker 3>and I. Next I'll have to rent a car to

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<v Speaker 3>save putting more mileage on my car. I have to

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<v Speaker 3>get an outfit for me and one for my daughter

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<v Speaker 3>to wear to the wedding. Got to give my haircut.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I have to book another room for the drive home,

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<v Speaker 3>because we're going to travel to this the San Francisco

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<v Speaker 3>area the day after the wedding and spend time there

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<v Speaker 3>so my daughter and I can meet my three little

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<v Speaker 3>great nephews. I also have to come up with a

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<v Speaker 3>wedding gift, which'll probably be a check boy. Do I

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<v Speaker 3>miss my family. I also wanted to let you know

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<v Speaker 3>I'll probably be taking next week off. The kids are

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<v Speaker 3>finally taking me camping this weekend, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>i'll be back in time to pull off researching and

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<v Speaker 3>getting another case together. I'll try to put a miniesota out,

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<v Speaker 3>but no promises. The case this episode is a wild

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<v Speaker 3>one that I have never heard of before. Normally, we

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<v Speaker 3>start our cases at the beginning, but I think I

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<v Speaker 3>might take a different approach this time. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>start backwards to unfold it. With that, let's get into

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<v Speaker 3>it this last time. She spent over thirty years incarcerated.

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<v Speaker 3>Trans woman Harvey Marceline was released from prison on August seven,

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and night. Harvey was eighty one years old

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<v Speaker 3>at the time. Harvey, who also went by Marceline Harvey,

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<v Speaker 3>is a killer technically a serial killer, but the system

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<v Speaker 3>believed Harvey had served her time although she was on

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<v Speaker 3>a lifetime parole. The belief was now that she was

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<v Speaker 3>in her eighties and very frail, she was no longer

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<v Speaker 3>a threat to society and boy the justice system. They

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<v Speaker 3>had no idea how very wrong they were. After her release,

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty nineteen, Harvey met sixty eight year old Susan

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<v Speaker 3>Leyden on a social media platform. The two became instant friends.

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<v Speaker 3>They agreed to meet at a park, and shortly after

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<v Speaker 3>their meeting, they decided to live together in an LGBTQ

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<v Speaker 3>friendly homeless shelter. Then pulling their welfare checks together, they

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<v Speaker 3>moved into an apartment in Brooklyn. During the course of

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<v Speaker 3>their living together, the two developed romantic feelings for one another.

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey would even post pictures of Susan on his social

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<v Speaker 3>media One had the caption love Personified. Susan's social media

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<v Speaker 3>account painted a much different story. In one of her

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<v Speaker 3>replies to a Harvey post, Susan called Harvey a freak,

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<v Speaker 3>a close friend of Susan's reported that Susan was getting

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<v Speaker 3>increasingly afraid of Harvey and she wanted to end their relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>So it seems that Susan was somewhat released from the

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<v Speaker 3>relationship and from the apartment she shared with Harvey. Susan

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<v Speaker 3>went on to live in an LGBTQ shelter in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 3>On March fourth of twenty twenty two, Harvey, who is

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<v Speaker 3>now eighty three years old, entered a ninety nine cent

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<v Speaker 3>store right being a motorized scooter, you know, the kind

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<v Speaker 3>that you might see for people with physical disabilities. On

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<v Speaker 3>the surveillance footage, Harvey stands up from the scooter and

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<v Speaker 3>grabs an item from the shelf inside the store. When

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey stands up, there's a plastic bag that she had

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<v Speaker 3>been sitting on. The bag contained Susan's leg. You're probably wondering, now,

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<v Speaker 3>how did we suddenly go from a senior couple living

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<v Speaker 3>together to parting of ways to this? Well, maybe that's

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<v Speaker 3>why we don't usually tell stories backwards. On March third,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two, a man found a human torso in

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<v Speaker 3>a bag and a shopping cart on the corner near

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<v Speaker 3>where Harvey lived. Police obtained days of surveillance footage of

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<v Speaker 3>the nearby area and they diligently went through all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>They found some with Harvey leaving her apartment with a

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<v Speaker 3>garbage bag. This is believed to have been Susan's torso.

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<v Speaker 3>They also found footage of Susan visiting Harvey's apartment on

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<v Speaker 3>February twenty seventh, but they could not find any footage

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<v Speaker 3>of Susan ever leaving. After her visit to the ninety

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<v Speaker 3>nine cent store, Harvey was arrested at her apartment. Plus

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<v Speaker 3>police detectives came armed with a search warrant for the unit.

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<v Speaker 3>Inside they discovered Susan's head and a few other body parts.

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<v Speaker 3>There were bloody sheets, a bloody mop, along with power

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<v Speaker 3>tools and cleaners that had been recently purchased at a

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<v Speaker 3>home depot by Harvey. Susan's autopsy came back and it

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<v Speaker 3>was definitive that she had been murdered. She did not

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<v Speaker 3>die of natural causes before her dismemberment. Blunt force trauma

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<v Speaker 3>to her head was the reason for her death. After

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<v Speaker 3>being arrested and charged for Susan's murder, Harvey was whisked

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<v Speaker 3>away to Riker's Island with no possibility of bailing out.

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<v Speaker 3>So much for being a fair little old lady and

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<v Speaker 3>definitely not a golden girl. Now we'll go back to

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey's early life. Harvey Marceline was born nineteen thirty eight

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<v Speaker 3>in Harlem, New York. They were assigned mail at birth.

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<v Speaker 3>Their dad was a shipping clerk and their mother a seamstress.

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<v Speaker 3>Not long after their birth, the family, whose only child

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<v Speaker 3>was Harvey, moved to the Washington Heights neighborhood of Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 3>This is considered a more affordable area in Manhattan. Little

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey was spoiled by his parents, that is until the

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<v Speaker 3>dad passed away when Harvey was ten. Harvey attended a

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<v Speaker 3>Catholic church school in Harlem, and according to Harvey, they

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<v Speaker 3>were sexually abused here. They claimed to be whipped and

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<v Speaker 3>forced to eat rotten food by the nuns of the church,

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<v Speaker 3>and this caused them to act out. In Harvey's teenage years,

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<v Speaker 3>they were sexually active and displayed sexually deviant behavior. By

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<v Speaker 3>the time Harvey was thirteen, they dressed in drag for

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<v Speaker 3>Halloween and loved it so much they continued to dress

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<v Speaker 3>in drag afterwards until realizing they must be suffering from

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<v Speaker 3>gender dysphoria or possibly gender euphoria. During this time, Harvey

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<v Speaker 3>had their first sexual encounter with a man. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty two, at the age of fourteen, Harvey was accused

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<v Speaker 3>of trying to sexually assault an eight year old girl,

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<v Speaker 3>only to be put into a mental institution. Afterwards, Harvey

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<v Speaker 3>would spend their whole summer in the institution being evaluated.

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<v Speaker 3>The medical reports reflected that Harvey was a known truant,

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<v Speaker 3>a thief, and a sexual deviant for having sex with

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<v Speaker 3>both men and women. My god, fourteen years old and

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<v Speaker 3>having sex with both men and women, I think the

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<v Speaker 3>men and women having sex with a child should be

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<v Speaker 3>considered the deviants. After being released from the institution, Harvey

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<v Speaker 3>would return to the school and graduate from it, But

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<v Speaker 3>then Harvey became involved in more criminal behavior. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty seven, Harvey was busted for burglary and they spent

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<v Speaker 3>several months locked up in county jail. Harvey also turned

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<v Speaker 3>to drugs as an escape. To their credit, Harvey sought

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<v Speaker 3>out mental help, but no psychiatrist or therapist could pinpoint

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<v Speaker 3>what mental disorder Harvey was suffering from. In the early

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixties, Harvey married a woman named Florence Jackson, but

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<v Speaker 3>the marriage was rocky from the get go, with Harvey

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<v Speaker 3>being anc faithful. To look at Harvey, you may see

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<v Speaker 3>no physical beauty, nothing outward, especially as they got older,

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<v Speaker 3>but Harvey is apparently very charming and smooth with the words.

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey willingly admitted themselves to Bellevue Psychiatric Hospital on April ninth,

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty two, where they were given the diagnosis of

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<v Speaker 3>qunic schizophrenia and paranoia. They were discharged into their wife's

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<v Speaker 3>custody on April sixteenth, nineteen sixty two. While there were

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<v Speaker 3>many indiscretions for them. Harvey had a mainside dish named

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<v Speaker 3>Jacqueline Bonds. They even got a Manhattan apartment together, but

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<v Speaker 3>Jacqueline was not happy in the relationship and she tried

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<v Speaker 3>to break things off with Harvey. In March nineteen sixty three.

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey told Jacqueline, I'll get you for this, and on

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<v Speaker 3>April eighteenth, nineteen sixty three, in their apartment, Harvey would

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<v Speaker 3>shoot Jacqueline three times with a thirty two caliber revolver,

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<v Speaker 3>ending her life. Harvey was arrested, charged, and at their trial,

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey would be sentenced to twenty years to life in Attica,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's because the jury couldn't decide on the death

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<v Speaker 3>penalty or not. During their prison time, they were a

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<v Speaker 3>full on participant in the Attica prison riots, which was

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<v Speaker 3>a crazy crime in itself. On September ninth, eighteen seventy one,

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand, two hundred inmates at Attica Correctional Facility rebelled

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<v Speaker 3>over living conditions and demands for political rights. The inmates

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<v Speaker 3>gained control of a portion of the prison, taking forty

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<v Speaker 3>two staff members hostage. A four day period of negotiations

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<v Speaker 3>took place in which the authorities agree I read to

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<v Speaker 3>a total of twenty eight demands made by the inmates,

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<v Speaker 3>but the parties were unable to resolve the issues of

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<v Speaker 3>amnesty from criminal prosecution for the takeover, and the removal

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<v Speaker 3>of the facility's superintendent. This is when Governor Neilson Rockefeller

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<v Speaker 3>ordered the state police to take back control of the facility.

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<v Speaker 3>This was accomplished on September thirteenth, nineteen seventy one. In all,

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<v Speaker 3>forty three people lost their lives in the uprising, including

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<v Speaker 3>eleven correction officers. And you all know how I love

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<v Speaker 3>my dark history. In May of nineteen eighty four, Harvey,

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<v Speaker 3>who was now fully identifying as a transwoman, was released

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<v Speaker 3>from prison on parole. You might have noticed I used

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<v Speaker 3>the they then pronouns before the transition, but now that

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey is fully identifying as a trans woman, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to go back to using She and her Harvey secured

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<v Speaker 3>herself a home in an extended stay type place. This

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<v Speaker 3>was in Harlem. Because of her incarceration, Harvey had troubles

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<v Speaker 3>finding employment. Anne was in financial dire. She ended up

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<v Speaker 3>renting out a room to make ends meet. In early

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty five, at the age of forty seven, Harvey

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<v Speaker 3>would meet a twenty nine year old woman named Anna Miranda.

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<v Speaker 3>Anna was a sex worker and she was a heroin attic.

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<v Speaker 3>Anna quickly would become Harvey's new roommate. On October twenty

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<v Speaker 3>ninth of nineteen eighty five, Harvey consumed some crack cocaine

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<v Speaker 3>and in a heated argument with Anna, Harvey lunged at

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<v Speaker 3>her with a knife, stabbing Anna to death. Harvey would

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<v Speaker 3>dismember Anna's body, place the parts in trash bags, and

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<v Speaker 3>then distribute the bags around Central Park. As the news

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<v Speaker 3>of human remains found in beads around Central Park began

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<v Speaker 3>to materialize. Harvey's neighbor called police, announcing that he had

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<v Speaker 3>seen Harvey leaving her room with blood soaked trash bags.

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey was immediately arrested and charged with Anna's murder. At

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<v Speaker 3>her trial, Harvey admitted that she killed Anna, but she

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<v Speaker 3>said it was in self defense. She explained that they

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<v Speaker 3>were fighting about Anna not paying her rent, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Anna got aggressive with her and she fought back. Anna's

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<v Speaker 3>autopsy report showed that she had been stabbed thirty three times.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Harvey admitted to the crime, her charge was reduced

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<v Speaker 3>from murder to manslaughter, but since she violated her parole

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<v Speaker 3>by committing another felony, she was returned back to prison

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<v Speaker 3>to serve out the rest of her life sentence, with

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<v Speaker 3>the manslaughter sentence adding twelve years to the life sentence.

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<v Speaker 3>Between nineteen eight, twenty six to twenty nineteen, Harvey would

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<v Speaker 3>appeal her sentence fifteen times, being denied each time. In

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety three, Harvey began her hormone therapy and she

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<v Speaker 3>was dedicated to full on transitioning from male to female,

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<v Speaker 3>which brings us current to where we started the case.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty nineteen. At Harvey's parole. Harvey has since admitted

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<v Speaker 3>to having split personalities. When is her female side Marcelene,

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<v Speaker 3>Marcelline is a peaceful, caring lesbian, while her male counterpart,

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<v Speaker 3>Harvey is a bad guy. He's misogynistic, a deviant, and

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<v Speaker 3>very aggressive. Harvey's trial for the murder of Susan Leyden

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<v Speaker 3>began in March of twenty twenty four. It is still

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<v Speaker 3>listed as ongoing. She has pleaded not guilty. If Harvey,

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<v Speaker 3>who is at the age of eighty seven right now,

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<v Speaker 3>lives through the trial and is found guilty, she will

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<v Speaker 3>never haunt the streets of New York ever again, and

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<v Speaker 3>will most likely die right where she belongs in prison.

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<v Speaker 3>Rest in Power, Susan, Jacqueline and Anna our True Crime Quickie.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode is from southern California. In nineteen ninety, twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five year old Tasha Santiago was a trans woman doing

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<v Speaker 3>sex work in and around Oceanside, California. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>coastal city in North County San Diego. It's very close

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<v Speaker 3>to the Marine base Camp Pendleton. On December tenth, nineteen ninety,

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<v Speaker 3>Tasha had a room at the Wally Johnson Motel in

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<v Speaker 3>Oceanside that night, she serviced two Camp Pendleton marines by

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<v Speaker 3>giving each a blow job, not in her room, but

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<v Speaker 3>in an alley way next to the motel. These marines

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<v Speaker 3>were Todd Thornton and Jeffrey Hammond's. With the second marine, Jeffrey,

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<v Speaker 3>he could not ejaculate, and he demanded the eighteen dollars

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<v Speaker 3>he paid Tasha back. Patasha well, she had a strict

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<v Speaker 3>no return policy that she stuck to. She did what

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<v Speaker 3>was asked of her. Wasn't her fault. Jeffrey had an

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<v Speaker 3>issue ejaculating. Then the man got rough with her. Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 3>told Todd to hold her down while he beat the

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<v Speaker 3>shit out of her. Patasha she was able to wriggle

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<v Speaker 3>loose and she fled. Unfortunately, she had to leave her

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<v Speaker 3>jacket behind. The men finally left, taking Tasha's jacket with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Tasha returned back to her room, but realizing her jacket

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<v Speaker 3>had been stolen, she went downstairs. She used to pay

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<v Speaker 3>phone and she called the police to report her jacket

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<v Speaker 3>stolen and that she had been assaulted by two marines

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<v Speaker 3>in an alleyway. The following evening, she saw the two

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<v Speaker 3>marines driving by her motel again. Tasha went back downstairs

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<v Speaker 3>to use the payphone to call police. When she called,

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<v Speaker 3>she was put on hold, and as she was waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for the dispatcher to come back on the line, gunshots

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<v Speaker 3>rang out. Soon nine one one Dispatch was being flooded

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<v Speaker 3>with calls about the shots. As police arrived, they found

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<v Speaker 3>Tasha lying dead on the driveway of the Wally Johnson Motel.

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<v Speaker 3>The phone booth she had been calling the police from

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<v Speaker 3>had its glass completely shattered. There were many witnesses who

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<v Speaker 3>saw the two men responsible for the crime. Residents who

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<v Speaker 3>lived at the motel were very forthcoming with information. They

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<v Speaker 3>described the men and the car that the gunfire had

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<v Speaker 3>come from, including giving police the car's license plate number.

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<v Speaker 3>Rather quickly, police were able to pick up the Marines,

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<v Speaker 3>Todd Thornton and Jeffrey Hammonds. The Marines were questioned and

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<v Speaker 3>their murder weapon was seized, but due to the men

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<v Speaker 3>being Marines, the government wanted to hold on to the

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<v Speaker 3>jurisdiction for a bit. They probably were trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out how to cover it all up and possibly do

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<v Speaker 3>an in house punishment for the rotten Marines. Eventually, the

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<v Speaker 3>Camp Pendleton Administration and Naval Investigation Team gave in and

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<v Speaker 3>they handed Todd and Jeffrey over to the civilian Ocean

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<v Speaker 3>side police. Jeffrey was sentenced for the first degree murder

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<v Speaker 3>of Tasha twenty five years to life. It would seem

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<v Speaker 3>he went up for parole multiple times, but he was denied.

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<v Speaker 3>I figure it's been what thirty five years now, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure he's out. Todd was sentenced for the manslaughter of

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<v Speaker 3>Todd Ushia. He only served a few years in prison,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was released on parole in the late nineteen nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, you dumbasses. Eighteen dollars for a blowjob sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like a bargain, even in nineteen ninety. Seems to me

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<v Speaker 3>if they're going to be so hot headed over less

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<v Speaker 3>than twenty bucks, maybe they should have just sucked each

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<v Speaker 3>other off. Rest in power, Tasha, What what time for

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<v Speaker 3>a little sunshine? A transman named Matthew is an MIT

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<v Speaker 3>student who lost his family's support and financial support due

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<v Speaker 3>to his transitioning. Matthew is a senior and just a

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<v Speaker 3>few months away from graduating, who was unable to register

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<v Speaker 3>for his last classes because of some unpaid balances to

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<v Speaker 3>the school. His friend and fellow classmate, Irene, organized to

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<v Speaker 3>go fundme in honor of Matthew, bringing in ninety thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars for Matthew's cause. This will allow him to continue

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<v Speaker 3>his studies and pay for his living experience near the campus.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's so sweet. A little humanity really goes

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<v Speaker 3>a long way. NFL football star Kaylin Saunders and his

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<v Speaker 3>dancer brother Cameron launched a first of its kind football

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<v Speaker 3>camp designed specifically for LGBTQ youth. Now that's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was a kid, I would have been sign

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<v Speaker 3>me up. And lastly, Amsterdam will host World Pride this

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<v Speaker 3>year July twenty fifth through August eighth. And that's about

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<v Speaker 3>all the sunshine we have this week. But wait, let's

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<v Speaker 3>leave with a joke. What do you call fifty lesbians

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty government employees in one room? One hundred people

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<v Speaker 3>that don't do dick. Don't forget. I'm taking next week

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<v Speaker 3>off for or maybe a miniso if I get a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to get one together. I love you guys. You

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<v Speaker 3>matter so much. Remember it's not a crime to be

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<v Speaker 3>gay or to live your truth unless you're a murderer.
