Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Zkoston's radio.
Speaker 2: So big story out of Boston today was that Boston
Speaker 2: Mayor Michelle Wou along with three other mayors of sanctuary cities,
Speaker 2: Brandon Johnson of Chicago, Eric Adams of New York City,
Speaker 2: and Mike Johnston of Denver, have been called to testify
Speaker 2: before the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform in Washington,
Speaker 2: d c. And that is scheduled for February eleventh. Sort
Speaker 2: of interesting, especially when you recall just what is it
Speaker 2: about thirteen or fourteen months ago, members of Congress and
Speaker 2: again the Republican majority in Congress who controlled the committees,
Speaker 2: invited or requested the attendance of the presidents of Harvard,
Speaker 2: MIT and the University of Pennsylvania. This was in the
Speaker 2: wake of all of the anti Semitic demonstrations in the
Speaker 2: fall of twenty twenty three, after the horrific attack of
Speaker 2: October seventh, and it didn't turn out too well for
Speaker 2: Claudion Gay, then president of Harvard University. As as smart
Speaker 2: as she was, she didn't handle herself well. Now, I
Speaker 2: think the politicians probably will do better, But I think
Speaker 2: it's going to be a great opportunity for the Republican
Speaker 2: majority to call into question these mayors because as you
Speaker 2: look at this, you have the Trump administration now trying
Speaker 2: to get some bad people out of the country, and
Speaker 2: you have some communities like Boston and Denver, Colorado, and Chicago.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Now, to a lesser degree, New York Mayor Adams kind
Speaker 2: of basically saying to the federal government, Hey, we're gonna
Speaker 2: We're gonna deal with whatever we want to do here
Speaker 2: on our own. We're gonna we will basically call the shots.
Speaker 2: So today Mayor Wu who was back at the State
Speaker 2: House for the rather at city Hall, I should say,
Speaker 2: for the first time since she gave birth to her
Speaker 2: to her daughter, and we congratulate her on that achievement.
Speaker 2: But she she gives answers which are gonna be fine
Speaker 2: at city Hall to Boston TV and radar reporters. But
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that these answers are going to serve
Speaker 2: her as well in front of Congress and in front
Speaker 2: of hostile committee. So, for example, let me just play
Speaker 2: a couple of the sound bites, two or three of
Speaker 2: the sound bites here from the mayor today sort of
Speaker 2: to set the stage. This is Boston Mayor Michelle Wu
Speaker 2: asked about being asked to go to Washington. Of course,
Speaker 2: I'm sure she will go. The Congressional Committee has said
Speaker 2: we want all records from I think it's January first
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four to February fourth for her to
Speaker 2: bring those or have those in Washington that talk about
Speaker 2: any reference to sanctuary cities. Now, Boston is a sanctuary city.
Speaker 2: We are not a sanctuary statement. Boston's a sanctuary city.
Speaker 2: So let's start off with CP twenty two, please, Rob.
Speaker 4: We follow the laws fully here in Boston and at
Speaker 4: the city level. That means standing by our own municipal laws.
Speaker 4: That means standing by state laws. The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial
Speaker 4: Court decision as well that enforces local communities implement local
Speaker 4: laws and federal government can implement their laws and we
Speaker 4: are not forced to participate in their actions, just as
Speaker 4: they are not asked to carry out filling potholes and
Speaker 4: other things like that as well. So we each have
Speaker 4: our domain and we feel very strongly that we're on
Speaker 4: solid legal ground as we're following the law every day.
Speaker 2: Well, good luck with that. I think that's a pretty
Speaker 2: dumb answer, and I'll tell you why. I think it's
Speaker 2: a dumb answer. Police do not fill potholes. You have
Speaker 2: the Department of Public Works in Boston that fill potholes.
Speaker 2: So I would remind Mayor Woo, who's a graduate of
Speaker 2: Harvard Law School, that there's a Supreme Court decision in
Speaker 2: twenty twelve called Arizona versus United States. And for those
Speaker 2: of you of a certain vintage, you might remember that
Speaker 2: there was a governor out there whose name was Jen Brewis.
Speaker 2: She was a Republican, and she signed into law what
Speaker 2: was called SB ten seventy out there. Basically it was
Speaker 2: Support Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act, and it was
Speaker 2: the law that basically went beyond She wanted her law
Speaker 2: enforcement officers to go beyond what the federal government was doing.
Speaker 2: Now at that point, President Obama was in charge of
Speaker 2: the federal government and Eric Holder was the Attorney General,
Speaker 2: and the US Supreme Court in that particular case, by
Speaker 2: an interesting decision, you had then Justice Ginsburg, Justice ste
Speaker 2: Justice Stephen Bryer, of course, who was from Cambridge, and
Speaker 2: Justice Sotomayor, who was the youngest justice in the Court
Speaker 2: at the time really just had had only been on
Speaker 2: the court for a couple of years at that point,
Speaker 2: she's now a grizzled veteran. The majority opinion was written
Speaker 2: by Anthony Kennedy, Republican, a Reagan appointee, and John Roberts
Speaker 2: joined along with Ginsburg, Briar and so Tomayor. There were
Speaker 2: three descents, Scalia, Thomas, and Alito. Only leader remains on
Speaker 2: the court. Elena Kagan actually recused herself from the case,
Speaker 2: And basically the holding of the case was that, in effect,
Speaker 2: the Arizona Law, which gave authority to law enforcement in
Speaker 2: Arizona to enforce immigration law, violated the enumerated powers of
Speaker 2: Congress because it was preempted by the federal statue. So
Speaker 2: if you have the governor of Arizona saying, look, immigration
Speaker 2: law is preempted by the federal government, you can't be
Speaker 2: tougher than the federal government. Does the corollary apply, so
Speaker 2: that Mayor Wu and Mayor Johnston in Colorado, and Mayor
Speaker 2: Johnson in Chicago and Mayor Adams in New York cannot
Speaker 2: ignore the federal law. If the federal law does really
Speaker 2: preempt immigration immigration law. So I suspect that it's going
Speaker 2: to be a really difficult appearance and it's set up
Speaker 2: that way because the majority will be questioned. The majority
Speaker 2: on that committee, there's some sharp that's a committee headed
Speaker 2: by the guy from Kentucky, James Comer, So we will
Speaker 2: have to see how that goes. We are watching, and
Speaker 2: we talked about this last night. I wish that the
Speaker 2: Trump administration would be more transparent and explain who are
Speaker 2: the people, give us a sense of who the folks
Speaker 2: are who are being arrested and deported. I think it's
Speaker 2: important for the public to know that. So we're just
Speaker 2: going to open up this whole conversation here. Do you
Speaker 2: think this will be an experience that may or woo?
Speaker 2: She will be on the national stage for a day
Speaker 2: or so, which is something that a Boston mayor. I'm
Speaker 2: sure she will look forward to being on the national stage.
Speaker 2: Whether or not she will feel the same way after
Speaker 2: the event, I don't know. The arguments that ICE continue
Speaker 2: to make to local authorities around the country are, look,
Speaker 2: when you have a dangerous person in custody, hold that person.
Speaker 2: Hold that person til we can get over and get
Speaker 2: that person. Because it's a lot easier for ICE to
Speaker 2: take custody of an individual who is being held in
Speaker 2: a jail or in a police station than it is
Speaker 2: to release that person back into the community, and then
Speaker 2: ice has to go in and these some of these
Speaker 2: rays are going on at three o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 2: and you have no idea how people are going to react.
Speaker 2: We just saw the shooting of the UH, the customs
Speaker 2: officer up and fromont by this twenty one year old woman.
Speaker 2: I was reading a little bit about that case today.
Speaker 2: She and her now dead boyfriend, the German national They
Speaker 2: apparently have been at least linked to a murder in
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania and another murder in California. Again, I don't know
Speaker 2: enough about that case to make any decision other than
Speaker 2: the fact that a twenty one year old woman or
Speaker 2: any twenty one year old whether it's male or female,
Speaker 2: is involved in a shootout with you know, border officers.
Speaker 2: Is insane. Is absolutely insane. Anyway, UH, let's open up
Speaker 2: phone line six one seven, two five four ten thirty
Speaker 2: six one seven nine three ten thirty or triple eight
Speaker 2: nine two nine ten thirty. UH. Are you surprised that
Speaker 2: mayor who is being called into Congress? I think it's
Speaker 2: going to be a very interesting day for these four
Speaker 2: mayors and we'll see how they do, but I'd love
Speaker 2: to know how you think Mayor Will do when she
Speaker 2: appears on again schedule at this point February eleventh, so
Speaker 2: it's actually, believe it or not, less than two weeks away,
Speaker 2: so they're going to have to scramble on this one.
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Night Side taking your phone calls
Speaker 2: right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: In our conversation this hour, I would really like to
Speaker 2: hear from people in not only around the country. We're
Speaker 2: going to talk to Tom in West Virginia just a moment,
Speaker 2: but also people who are living here, whether you're in
Speaker 2: Boston or you're going and out to Boston every day.
Speaker 2: Do you think that Mayor Will was kind of behind
Speaker 2: the times here and that she should get with the
Speaker 2: program and say, okay, the Trump administration is saying they
Speaker 2: want to get the real bad people out of the country,
Speaker 2: people with convictions of rape and murder and child abuse
Speaker 2: at all of that, okay? Or do you think you
Speaker 2: kind of liked the idea that they are not going
Speaker 2: to cooperate with the federal government. It troubles me to
Speaker 2: be really honest with you, because again, when Joe Biden
Speaker 2: was president, look, I had my criticism of him, but
Speaker 2: he's still the president of the United States. And I
Speaker 2: do think that the state government has to comply with
Speaker 2: the federal government. A lot of the southern governors, Wallace
Speaker 2: and Maddox and Farbs and people like that, they found
Speaker 2: out that there is a supremacy clause in the federal
Speaker 2: government and that federal laws have to be followed. Tom
Speaker 2: in West Virginia starts us off. Tom is in West Virginia,
Speaker 2: but he's someone who has lived in Boston for many
Speaker 2: years as well. Welcome Tom.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I grew up in Foxborough, so I lived in
Speaker 5: Mission Hill on my twenties.
Speaker 2: That's what I recall that.
Speaker 5: Sure, Yeah, Ward ten, Ward ten, Precinct three, Mission Hill.
Speaker 5: David Scondress is my city councilor. Kevin Fitzgerald was on
Speaker 5: my state Rep.
Speaker 2: I was, you don't have to establish your BONI five
Speaker 2: feedings with me. I know exactly where you live.
Speaker 5: Anyway, correct me if I'm wrong. You're an attorney. Federal
Speaker 5: law superseded state law. Am I right? Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's called the supremacy clause. But also the the
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court decision that I have cited. You've been listening,
Speaker 2: You've been on Hold Arizona versus US essentially says that
Speaker 2: Congress UH and and the federal government. You know that
Speaker 2: the let me just read you the Holding and Arizona
Speaker 2: law providing authority for local law enforcement to enforce violated
Speaker 2: the enumerated powers of Congress and is preempted by federal statute. Uh.
Speaker 2: There is a federal law that that that lays it
Speaker 2: out pretty clearly, the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigration Responsibility
Speaker 2: Act of nineteen ninety six, which I have in my
Speaker 2: hand here. I won't read it to you, but no,
Speaker 2: it's very clear that this law in ninety six strengthened
Speaker 2: US immigration laws. It's still in the books, adding penalties
Speaker 2: for undocumented immigrants who commit crimes while in the US,
Speaker 2: who stay in the US for statutorily defined periods of time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: question about that.
Speaker 5: I remember that fam and Brewer with her finger in
Speaker 5: an Obama's face. Yes, And you know, let's go back
Speaker 5: to the end of Obama's administration, where a popular media
Speaker 5: was calling him the deporter in chief. I never heard
Speaker 5: any of white liberals in Cambridge or New England calling
Speaker 5: Obama a Nazi. Now that Donald Trump has made it clear,
Speaker 5: and I voted for him, and I don't care what
Speaker 5: my union says. Okay, I'm an America and first Union member. Second, well,
Speaker 5: there are a.
Speaker 2: Lot of union by the way, Tom, I don't even think. No,
Speaker 2: I know that, because look, Tom, I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: fight with you. I'm just trying to make the point
Speaker 2: that Trump generated more support amongst union households than any
Speaker 2: Republican in modern history since unions began to be organized.
Speaker 5: You were you were ahead because you know something. No,
Speaker 5: because we're fed up. You know, I'm tired of having
Speaker 5: my leg peed on and told that it's told its raining.
Speaker 5: And if we go back to the mid nineties, if
Speaker 5: we go back to the mid nineties, the Carpenters Union
Speaker 5: nationally was pushing the Clinton administration you have got to
Speaker 5: pass everify why because our members are being uncut, undercut
Speaker 5: labor wise in the West Coast states. And now of
Speaker 5: a sudden it's like, oh no, we can't.
Speaker 2: Bring you back to the issue at hand, which is important,
Speaker 2: and that is the question is in your opinion, what
Speaker 2: sort of an experience do you think Michelle wou is
Speaker 2: going to receive in front of Congress on February eleven.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be pretty tough.
Speaker 5: She's going to get ripped to shreds because she's made
Speaker 5: these comments that she's taken this progressive attitude that well,
Speaker 5: because they're undocumented immigrants, therefore they have some sort of
Speaker 5: moral virtue. I'm sorry. There are millions of people throughout
Speaker 5: the world that have to go through our immigration process
Speaker 5: of where, and I'm going through it with the fiance
Speaker 5: now of where. She has to prove that she was
Speaker 5: not a criminal in her home country, as well as
Speaker 5: get a medical evaluation. And during the pandemic, the peak
Speaker 5: of the pandemic, the Biden administration was not requiring migrants
Speaker 5: at the southern border to get the experimental vaccines as
Speaker 5: people that maintain jobs in this country. As well as
Speaker 5: the fact that no, you didn't have, you know, typhoid
Speaker 5: or whatever immunization proof that we had all of these
Speaker 5: diseases wiped out in this country with successful vaccines.
Speaker 2: They weasles today in California. I want you to react
Speaker 2: real quickly. This is cut number twenty five, and I
Speaker 2: don't understand what she's saying, maybe you can tell me
Speaker 2: what she's trying to say. Cut twenty five rop. We
Speaker 2: are in.
Speaker 4: Intense and scary times for so many of our community members,
Speaker 4: and that is by design. It is intentional that the
Speaker 4: policies that have now been communicated, whether or not they
Speaker 4: are fully legal, and we see many of them working
Speaker 4: their way through the courts right now, including some that
Speaker 4: have already even just in the first few days of
Speaker 4: this administration, seem to have been struck down at least
Speaker 4: in the first steps in the judicial system and on
Speaker 4: immigration for example. Largely what we have seen across the
Speaker 4: country in terms of the actions so far have mirrored
Speaker 4: the priorities and the same types of actions that took
Speaker 4: place under federal enforcement under the Biden administration. However, they're
Speaker 4: now including Fox News being embedded and going along on
Speaker 4: these actions, or bringing other celebrities to document what's happening,
Speaker 4: to create a sense of greater impact with that fear
Speaker 4: and destabilization.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, as a graduate of Harvard Law School,
Speaker 2: I have no idea what she has even tried to
Speaker 2: say there that was the most disjoint did she discombobulated
Speaker 2: answer I've ever heard her make somehow doctor phil is
Speaker 2: the cause of this.
Speaker 5: No, what she did is she just threw up smoke screens. Okay,
Speaker 5: But the reality is, as far as people come into
Speaker 5: this country under commented or you know, I don't blame them,
Speaker 5: but it's not right. There are people all throughout this
Speaker 5: planet that are willing to jump through the hoops to
Speaker 5: come here for a better life. And I'm proud to
Speaker 5: say that I got to know the immigrants that came
Speaker 5: here with nothing back in the early eighties to Boston.
Speaker 5: One one fellow in particular that was a bus boy
Speaker 5: from the country of Aretria that I had never heard
Speaker 5: of when I used to work at the top of it.
Speaker 2: No. No, not Ethiopia, No, No, that Eritrea was involved
Speaker 2: in a civil war in Ethiopia. Talk. I know exactly
Speaker 2: what you're talking about. Yeah, trust me, okay, absolutely.
Speaker 6: And he came here, he came right, but he came.
Speaker 5: Here with nothing, and he made something out of himself,
Speaker 5: and he brought his fellow family members here. And when
Speaker 5: he got his citizenship in nineteen eighty five, a bunch
Speaker 5: of US people that had part time jobs at the
Speaker 5: top of the Hub brought him up there to table
Speaker 5: thirty four, which is the best table in the house
Speaker 5: at the top of the hub. It was the first
Speaker 5: time he drank alcohol.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 5: I loved in America.
Speaker 2: That was a great restaurant. I'm sad it's gone, Tom.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what else I'm sad about. I'm sad
Speaker 2: it's nine thirty and they got to go to the news.
Speaker 2: You're always an entertaining caller, and you make great points.
Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend. We'll be back right after the
Speaker 2: the nine thirty news. Here on Nightside, I have one
Speaker 2: line at six one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty
Speaker 2: and a couple at six one seven, nine three one
Speaker 2: ten thirty. Which policy do you feel makes more sense now?
Speaker 2: What the Trump administration is trying to do, or the
Speaker 2: position that several of these mayors have invoked and that
Speaker 2: they will have to respond to questions about when they
Speaker 2: testify in front of Congress on February eleventh. I think
Speaker 2: it's going to make very interesting political theater. And I
Speaker 2: just don't understand why anyone Democratic mayor otherwise would not
Speaker 2: cooperate with the Trump administration and say on this we
Speaker 2: can agree. We want the bad people who are here.
Speaker 2: The MS thirteen members the members of these various gangs
Speaker 2: who have come here. We want the rapist and the
Speaker 2: murderer is gone, as opposed to oh no, we want
Speaker 2: to protect all of our residents. Not our citizens necessarily,
Speaker 2: but our residents. We'll be back after this.
Speaker 1: Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio, Let me go.
Speaker 2: Next to Tom and Lynn. Tom next on Nightside, Welcome.
Speaker 3: Jan, How are you doing? You know, I have kind
Speaker 3: of a facility with the languages. So what Michelle what
Speaker 3: was saying was it's like word salad sentenced spaghetti paragraph, Pope.
Speaker 2: Rid you could be a speech writer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, right, and me and Kamala Harris, But
Speaker 3: you know it's like can where is where is Henry
Speaker 3: Clay when you need them? This is no they're talking about.
Speaker 3: This is one hundred and sixty years ago.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, No, I said he's dead.
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, I know, but this is what they're
Speaker 3: talking about. One hundred and sixty years ago. We went
Speaker 3: through that. Yeah, and uh, uh I don't get it.
Speaker 3: They don't get it.
Speaker 2: No, they don't. And it's going to be interesting to
Speaker 2: see if she goes and what the reception is. And uh,
Speaker 2: I remember the the college President's going down there in
Speaker 2: December of twenty twenty three. It didn't turn out for
Speaker 2: the academics. Maybe the mayors will do better. I don't know.
Speaker 3: No, No, they won't. They won't. They get away with
Speaker 3: that stuff in Boston with the City Council Ormara putting
Speaker 3: a girl friend on Supreme Court. But when they get
Speaker 3: down to DC, they're overmatched. They're going to get their
Speaker 3: heads handed to him. And I just, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I can't wait. They're over match. Trump said he was
Speaker 3: going to do a lot of things, and he's doing
Speaker 3: what he said he was going to do, and he's
Speaker 3: got a lot of support. I'm talking too much.
Speaker 5: Go ahead now, I'll let you go.
Speaker 2: I'll let you go. You made your point, you made
Speaker 2: it well, and I appreciate you taking the time. As always, Tom,
Speaker 2: he was short, sweet, succinct, and you actually made sense,
Speaker 2: which eliminates you as a potential speech writer for many
Speaker 2: many politicians who made you in words. Salads.
Speaker 5: Thanks Tom, you'll best.
Speaker 2: Thanks. I appreciate you as well. Thanks so much. Let's
Speaker 2: keep rolling. Head going to go to Leslie and campis Hi, Leslie?
Speaker 2: How are you? If Leslie's not there, we'll have to
Speaker 2: put Leslie on hold and come back to her in
Speaker 2: a moment. In the meantime, we're going to go to
Speaker 2: rich Is in Wellesley. Rich You are next on.
Speaker 6: Nightsager, right ahead, Hi, damn great, Joe, Thank you, Mike,
Speaker 6: Mike f on her Is. If she's smart, she doesn't
Speaker 6: go down there unless she has to, because they're gonna,
Speaker 6: they're gonna they're gonna shoot on her all day long.
Speaker 6: And she's already made her her stance public and people
Speaker 6: either are gonna like it and not like it, and
Speaker 6: especially with the Craft guy coming in. But I think
Speaker 6: she's gonna say that she stands by the federal law
Speaker 6: and they'll import it. But if I was given her advice,
Speaker 6: I would say, if you get down there and you're crazy,
Speaker 6: they're only gonna nail you, and just tell them you're
Speaker 6: gonna go by the state and federal laws and that's it.
Speaker 6: If she was smart. Now she may not because she
Speaker 6: wants the attention, because I think she's gonna run for
Speaker 6: governor down the road, and.
Speaker 2: She doesn't want to have anything to do with being governor.
Speaker 2: I think she wants to us Senator. She's waiting for
Speaker 2: either more. You mark my word. She was a she
Speaker 2: was a mentee of Elizabeth Warren at Harvard Law School.
Speaker 2: She was a student. Oh, I didn't know that alcolyte
Speaker 2: of Warren. And I think that that that Warren will
Speaker 2: give her a heads up when Warren decides either not
Speaker 2: to run or to or to leave office early.
Speaker 6: Okay, I didn't know that. I thought she was going
Speaker 6: to stay local. But now let's just say that. Then
Speaker 6: I agree with you.
Speaker 2: She's from Chicago originally, so it's not as if she's
Speaker 2: somebody who you know, Tom Andnino was your mayor for
Speaker 2: life because Tom Menino lived in Reville, grew up in
Speaker 2: you know, Hyde Park, lived in Reedville on Marty Walsh,
Speaker 2: a Dorchester guy who has been offered you know he's now.
Speaker 2: Marty has a great job as the NHL Players Association director.
Speaker 2: He's making a million dollars a year, so he's he's happy. Well,
Speaker 2: he was a great mayor, like the.
Speaker 6: Mayor, and I like Mumbles. I thought he was a
Speaker 6: great guy. He was totally about to do it. And
Speaker 6: my my ex grew up in read Bill actually, so
Speaker 6: I had never heard of it.
Speaker 2: What street did she grow what street did she grow
Speaker 2: up on? Him? I might have known her.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's Uh no, there's a difference of you're my
Speaker 6: agents around seventy four or seventy five, and I think
Speaker 6: you're about the same.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm much younger than you are. I'm in
Speaker 2: my early.
Speaker 6: Third okay, yeah, I'm only only kid.
Speaker 2: I'm only kid.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 6: I used to live in sherban On Woodlawn.
Speaker 2: Oh it's really yeah, I loved I was out there
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 6: I was, I know, I know. I used to see
Speaker 6: it down polist in at this place were used by
Speaker 6: your baseball cards?
Speaker 2: Oh sure, A Fisks general store.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, John great, great.
Speaker 2: John Paulton area. I'll tell you a great guy. John
Speaker 2: and Carroll absolutely sweet people, absolutely sweet.
Speaker 6: By the way, I've got some things and I'll let
Speaker 6: you go one. You want to be you and you
Speaker 6: were reporter at the same time. I'm surprised you didn't
Speaker 6: go to Suffolk Night. How were you able to be
Speaker 6: a reporter and still go to day school.
Speaker 2: I wasn't working as a reporter. I was at I
Speaker 2: was at Boss University Law school. It's a full time,
Speaker 2: you know, day student for three years. Uh yeah, that's
Speaker 2: you know, I was. I didn't become a reporter at
Speaker 2: Channel four until a couple of years after law school,
Speaker 2: I practiced.
Speaker 6: Law for a while, uh, and then.
Speaker 2: Somehow find myself working at Channel four. It's it'll be
Speaker 2: in the book someday when I write the book. Trust me,
Speaker 2: it's a great story.
Speaker 6: Okay, it's it's it's gotta be one of the minor thing.
Speaker 6: What'll still be a favorite.
Speaker 2: Leave your phone number with Rob or or get my
Speaker 2: direct line. Give me a call. Since we got these
Speaker 2: these uh, these points in our life where we kind
Speaker 2: of cross paths, give me a call. Rob will give
Speaker 2: you my direct line. I can get back to you
Speaker 2: if I don't pick up, and we'll we'll chat some
Speaker 2: day off air.
Speaker 6: Okay, good, because I'm not an email I'm a phone person.
Speaker 2: You got me too, absolutely all right, Rich don't hang up,
Speaker 2: Robil take care of your hair. Okay, let me keep
Speaker 2: keep rolling. You're gonna go to my friend Patrick down
Speaker 2: in the District of Columbia. Patrick, get ready for February eleventh.
Speaker 2: We're going to have you meet Mayor Wu and be here.
Speaker 2: Get get her into the into the capitol. Okay, that
Speaker 2: will be the assignment. We'll give you. How you doing tonight?
Speaker 7: Well, maybe that would be a good idea for me
Speaker 7: to come to Boston while she's here so I can
Speaker 7: avoid her. Is that there?
Speaker 2: That's your choice. You're an American. You can do what
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 7: Last time you yeah, the last time you send these
Speaker 7: gals down here from Boston, they did not do very
Speaker 7: well at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was kind of a route, wasn't it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I have to agree with you on that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: I I heard this and I said, well, I got
Speaker 7: to chime in on this one. So as as our
Speaker 7: fellow men had had joined in and gave their viewpoints
Speaker 7: or articulated accurately, if I.
Speaker 2: Recall correctly, and you're my Washington corresponding here, so if
Speaker 2: I recall correctly, they were three college presidents went down there,
Speaker 2: M I, T, Harvard, and UPenn, and of the three,
Speaker 2: two basically were forced to resign. So it wasn't a
Speaker 2: good day for academia. Now the question is we got
Speaker 2: four mayors going in there. I'm not sure they're going
Speaker 2: to resign, but I don't know that they're going to
Speaker 2: improve their status. Maybe maybe they think that they can
Speaker 2: rise to the cream of the crop and the Democratic Party.
Speaker 7: Now my hearing that Adams is going down there from
Speaker 7: New York.
Speaker 2: Well, that's it. My understanding is he's just been admitted
Speaker 2: to a hospital for some strange and unknown disease and
Speaker 2: it's very uncharacteristic of him. Uh And so we hope
Speaker 2: he's well and all of that. But there was a
Speaker 2: story in the New York papers that he was admitted
Speaker 2: to a uh, you know, to a New York hospital
Speaker 2: without a lot of information, So he may be there.
Speaker 2: If anything, he'd be probably more warmly received because I
Speaker 2: think he has seen the era of his ways and
Speaker 2: has realized what a drain and and what a a
Speaker 2: cancer on the city of New York. Some of the
Speaker 2: crime that has that's been committed down there by some
Speaker 2: of the illegals. I mean, you had that that scene
Speaker 2: where the group of illegals, you know, pounced on a
Speaker 2: couple of New York's finest and and and beat them up.
Speaker 2: And you've had some you know, the the woman who
Speaker 2: was burned to death, you know, homeless woman sleeping on
Speaker 2: a train, and this this guy who's who's not in
Speaker 2: the country legally douster with with like fluid, some sort
Speaker 2: of flammable fluid and and litter on fire and then
Speaker 2: sat there and watched her die.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he is the famous line, this will destroy New
Speaker 7: York right, because he.
Speaker 2: Has he has, you know, he's he's really changed his
Speaker 2: view on it. Initially he was in a war of
Speaker 2: words with Governor Abbott from Texas. But I think that
Speaker 2: in retrospect he would admit probably that Abbott was doing
Speaker 2: what he felt he had to do on behalf of
Speaker 2: his citizens, and that Adams should have resisted and said,
Speaker 2: don't send them here. But he didn't. He went along,
Speaker 2: He went along to go, He got along, went along
Speaker 2: to get along, and I think it cost him badly.
Speaker 2: But we'll see. Now he finds himself under indictment and
Speaker 2: in a hospital.
Speaker 7: So yeah, he's not doing two good. That's not He
Speaker 7: may they may get him a little way, a little
Speaker 7: breathing room. If he goes down there and he says,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, I don't know, he could he could pass.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think he would be treated kindly
Speaker 2: by the Republicans on the panel because I think he
Speaker 2: has seen he has seen the light. Patrick. We're going
Speaker 2: to expect a live day of day of report, uh
Speaker 2: from the Capitol. You can be down there and give
Speaker 2: us a sense of how it's gonna go for these
Speaker 2: mayors on February eleventh. I'm gonna hold you to that.
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, we'll find out if they add any
Speaker 7: extra bike lanes for mayor Woo.
Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly true. I think she wants to go
Speaker 2: from National Airport directly to the Capitol only in a
Speaker 2: bike lane. So as long as that can be that
Speaker 2: accommodation can be provided, I suspect she'll be there. Thanks,
Speaker 2: Thank you, Patrick, love you, love you. S It's a
Speaker 2: humor man. Talk to you soon. Have a great one.
Speaker 2: Good night. We'll take a very quick break. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty we're gonna go back to Leslie. We've got
Speaker 2: Christine in Dedham, I promise, and we get a little
Speaker 2: room for you if you want to get in. We're
Speaker 2: gonna change topics at ten o'clock, gonna talk about Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's executive order, which says open up the JFK, RFK
Speaker 2: and MLK assassination files. Thank god, it has been too long.
Speaker 2: Finally a president has come forward and has has fulfilled
Speaker 2: that promise. Other presidents have alluded to it, but I
Speaker 2: think it's actually Gonna happen six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty
Speaker 2: is up next, followed by Christine coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Rayl from the Window World Nightside
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to Leslie in Canton, Massachusetts. Leslie, we're
Speaker 2: crying you again. How are you doing night? Leslie?
Speaker 4: Good?
Speaker 8: Thank you for taking my call. I just wanted to say,
Speaker 8: as far as Michelle Willn's sanctuary cities, what about the
Speaker 8: sanctuary for the citizens, so that these men are protecting
Speaker 8: the citizens of Massachusetts. And I also really wanted to
Speaker 8: say that it makes me really angry, really angry for
Speaker 8: these people who came in illegally without malice, and how
Speaker 8: they are treated now like an underworld citizenship, that they
Speaker 8: have to hide, that they not knowing the language, can't
Speaker 8: get probably many jobs and not eligible for that, well.
Speaker 2: They're not eligible. But a lot a lot of these
Speaker 2: folks are working under the table. To be honest with you,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I mean a lot of them
Speaker 2: are doing work that that that has said that Americans
Speaker 2: won't do. But a lot of them are having good
Speaker 2: have good jobs too, So I mean, you know, they're
Speaker 2: just not here. There's people all around the world waiting
Speaker 2: to come here. And I feel that that it's in
Speaker 2: the interest of everyone that the system not be rigged,
Speaker 2: that it be fair and everybody give an opportunity, and
Speaker 2: we as a country should know what is the skill
Speaker 2: that the person is bringing to this country. You know,
Speaker 2: what what are they? What are they you know, what
Speaker 2: are they going to contribute?
Speaker 8: I know, I believe what you do, but I think
Speaker 8: it makes it really makes people vulnerable for and and
Speaker 8: they don't can't probably feel like they can go to
Speaker 8: the police, if they're not given enough pay, if they're
Speaker 8: being male treated, just all sorts of things. It's just
Speaker 8: a wrong position to put people in.
Speaker 2: So you're you're you're sympathetic to the people who are here,
Speaker 2: as well as what you're telling me.
Speaker 6: I understand what you're angry.
Speaker 8: No, I'm angry that our country has put these people
Speaker 8: into that position.
Speaker 2: Country certain politicians who have put people in that.
Speaker 8: Positions the past administration, and I believe that they should
Speaker 8: have gone that we should have. You have said it
Speaker 8: before again, Increase the the legal number of immigrants, Increase
Speaker 8: them because we can use people, but let's let us
Speaker 8: know where they're from, what they're bringing to the table,
Speaker 8: and give and make sure we know where they are
Speaker 8: and that they can support themselves. I think it's unfair,
Speaker 8: you know, and these sanctuary cities are not doing them
Speaker 8: a favor. That's that's where I'm angry at that these
Speaker 8: people who feel so pious and poppuous about how they
Speaker 8: are about treating people, I'm not doing them a favor. Really,
Speaker 8: That's that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: Page.
Speaker 8: Thanks David Dan for taking my phone call.
Speaker 2: Thanks Leslie, call more often. Thank you much. Let me
Speaker 2: go to Christine. Christine, how are you tonight? Welcome?
Speaker 7: Thanks for calling in so thank you. How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing fine, great to hear your voice. What's your
Speaker 2: thought on Mayor WU? You're looking forward to seeing her
Speaker 2: in Congress? Testifying in Congress?
Speaker 9: I actually I don't think she'll even go. Yeah, I
Speaker 9: think I think she's gonna say she has the new baby.
Speaker 9: I think she'll do a video then, I really do.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Might be the smartest thing for her to do too.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I just had a question. I hate to
Speaker 9: say this, but there's the city at page for them
Speaker 9: to be here.
Speaker 2: Does the city get paid for the for the illegals
Speaker 2: to be here? No. What it does do though, the
Speaker 2: benefit of the illegals is that when they do the
Speaker 2: census the presence of illegals, they count legals into illegals.
Speaker 2: So if you've got, you know, one hundred illegals, that
Speaker 2: adds into the census, and the census in each state
Speaker 2: determines the congressional districts. So Massachusetts has been losing congressional
Speaker 2: districts because our population has been shrinking or at a minimum,
Speaker 2: not keeping up other states around the country like Texas
Speaker 2: and Florida, UH and many of the southern states, South Carolina,
Speaker 2: North Carolina there there, their population is growing, not only
Speaker 2: in terms of you know, new you know, the birth rate,
Speaker 2: but in addition, people are leaving the North and heading
Speaker 2: to the south. Tax states in Tennessee and those states
Speaker 2: are growing their population. Our population is diminishing, and if
Speaker 2: not diminishing, diminishing on a comparative basis. Therefore, we every
Speaker 2: ten years lose congressional House seats. We used to have
Speaker 2: sixteen members of Congress members of the House of Representatives
Speaker 2: in the nineteen sixties. We're down to nine. Our delegation's
Speaker 2: been cut in half, and that's one of the motivations
Speaker 2: to keep illegals in states like Illinois and Massachusetts and
Speaker 2: New York.
Speaker 9: It just makes me so angry. We can't even take
Speaker 9: care of our own people here. It's very it's so bad.
Speaker 2: So true, so true.
Speaker 9: It just I don't know, it's terrible. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, Christine, you speak, I think on behalf of a
Speaker 2: lot of people who choose not to talk about this publicly.
Speaker 2: But you, I think, do send people. Look, I think
Speaker 2: this there's a there's a poll that was the New
Speaker 2: York Times the other day. Eighty seven percent of the
Speaker 2: American people want illegals in this country who have criminal
Speaker 2: records thrown out of the country. That's a huge number,
Speaker 2: eighty seven percent. And the Democrats better realize that they're
Speaker 2: they're on the wrong side of the street on this
Speaker 2: issue in my opinion. Right, Thanks, Christine, I got the
Speaker 2: news coming at me, so I'm going to let you run.
Speaker 2: Talk to you soon. Okay.
Speaker 9: You see how Kansas City has a high number of
Speaker 9: the TV right now?
Speaker 2: Oh, I saw there was it? Kansas City tuberculosis.
Speaker 7: Okay, yep, yeah, frightening.
Speaker 2: Frightening that stuff. A lot of that stuff's going to
Speaker 2: come back. I fear. I fear, Christine. Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for calling. Appreciate it very much. Talk talk soon, Okay,
Speaker 2: thanks by bye. All Right, we come back on to
Speaker 2: talk about Donald Trump wants to open up and I
Speaker 2: think this is somewhat something I would like to see
Speaker 2: the Democrats stand up and agree with him on this,
Speaker 2: but maybe they won't. Let's open up the j f K,
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